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Hi all,

IANA has made the following early allocations under the Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) Parameters heading at http://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-parameters:

1) In the P-Multicast Service Interface Tunnel (PMSI Tunnel) Tunnel Types registry, IANA has registered the following:

0x0A	Assisted-Replication Tunnel (TEMPORARY - registered 2016-06-30, expires 2017-06-30)	[draft-ietf-bess-evpn-optimized-ir]

2) In the P-Multicast Service Interface (PMSI) Tunnel Attribute Flags registry, IANA has registered the following:

3-4	Assisted-Replication Type (T) (TEMPORARY - registered 2016-06-30, expires 2017-06-30)	[draft-ietf-bess-evpn-optimized-ir]
5	Broadcast and Multicast (BM) (TEMPORARY - registered 2016-06-30, expires 2017-06-30)	[draft-ietf-bess-evpn-optimized-ir]
6	Unknown (U) (TEMPORARY - registered 2016-06-30, expires 2017-06-30)	[draft-ietf-bess-evpn-optimized-ir]

Please add these names and values to the document's IANA Considerations section. 

These allocations can be renewed for one additional year before they expire. If the document has yet to be approved for publication, we'll contact you within 60 days of 2017-06-30 to ask you whether you want to renew.

Best regards,

Amanda Baber
IANA Senior Specialist
ICANN

On Thu Jun 30 18:43:25 2016, aretana@cisco.com wrote:
> On 6/30/16, 2:10 PM, "Amanda Baber via RT"
> <iana-prot-param-comment@iana.org> wrote:
> 
> Amanda:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> >As the AD for the BESS working group, can you confirm that IANA can make
> >the early allocations Martin requests below?
> 
> Yes, please go ahead.
> 
> > 
> >If these are OK, should we present the final pair of allocations as
> 
> Let's go with the second option, but a more specific name:
> 
> Value: 3-4
> Name: Assisted-Replication Type (T)
> Reference: draft-ietf-bess-evpn-optimized-ir
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Alvaro.
> 
> 
> >
> >Value: 3 & 4
> >Name: Type (T)
> >Reference: draft-ietf-bess-evpn-optimized-ir
> >
> >or
> >
> >Value: 3-4
> >Name: Type (T)
> >Reference: draft-ietf-bess-evpn-optimized-ir
> >
> >or
> >
> >Value: 3
> >Name: Type1 (T1)
> >Reference: draft-ietf-bess-evpn-optimized-ir
> >Value: 4
> >Name: Type2 (T2)
> >Reference: draft-ietf-bess-evpn-optimized-ir
> >
> 




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Hi Thomas,

Thanks for your comments again. I have incorporated them except the minor
comment of removing a sentence in section 9. Previously, section 9 had a
repetitive text which I replaced it with a reference to section 5.1.3
which I think should be kept - i.e., if someone is jumping directly to
mcast handling section (sec 9), it is useful to have a reference to sec
5.1.3 on how Eth tag field is set.

Cheers,
Ali



On 6/15/16, 7:21 AM, "Thomas Morin" <thomas.morin@orange.com> wrote:

>Sounds good.
>
>Thanks,
>
>-Thomas
>
>
>2016-06-15, John E Drake:
>> Thomas,
>>
>> Comments inline.
>>
>> Yours Irrespectively,
>>
>> John
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Thomas Morin [mailto:thomas.morin@orange.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 8:47 AM
>>> To: John E Drake; Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US); BESS;
>>>draft-ietf-bess-evpn-
>>> overlay@tools.ietf.org; Ali Sajassi (sajassi)
>>> Subject: draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay / section 5.1.3 vs. section 9
>>>(was Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-
>>> bess-evpn-overlay vs. draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps)
>>>
>>> Hi John, Ali,
>>>
>>> Through the discussion below it appeared that section 9 and section
>>> 5.1.3 needed adjustments to be brought in sync, and indeed there were
>>>some changes in
>>> last revision.
>>>
>>> However, I don't think the cleanup/precision is complete yet:
>>> - section 5.1.3 says "the MPLS label field in the [...] Inclusive
>>>Multicast Ethernet Tag routes is
>>> used to carry the VNI" although the "Inclusive Multicast Ethernet Tag
>>>Route" has no "MPLS
>>> label field"
>>> - (directly related to the above) none of these section talks about
>>>using the MPLS field of
>>> the PMSI Tunnel Attribute as the VNI, although the discussion below
>>>concluded that it is
>>> what implementations actually do
>>
>>
>> [JD] Accordingly, and specifically to support the option of locally
>>assigned VNIs, the MPLS label1 field in the MAC Advertisement route, the
>>MPLS label field in the Ethernet AD per EVI route, and the MPLS label
>>field in the PMSI Tunnel Attribute of the Inclusive Multicast Ethernet
>>Tag route are used to carry the VNI.
>>
>>
>>> - also, section 9 now says "The Ethernet Tag field of this route is
>>>set as described in section
>>> 5.1.3.", but I find this sentence useless and redundant (precisely
>>>because 5.1.3 already says
>>> it and nothing would indicate that section 9 would be exempt of what
>>>5.1.3 says)
>>
>>
>> [JD]  We should strike the sentence.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Additionally, it occurred to me that "the MPLS field" is not, strictly
>>>speaking, unambiguous
>>> for MAC Advertisement routes, because the route actually has two MPLS
>>>fields.  The text
>>> should just say "MPLS Label1 field" for the MAC/IP advertisement route.
>>
>>
>> [JD]  See above.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> -Thomas
>>>
>>>
>>> 2016-05-04, John E Drake:
>>>> Jorge,
>>>>
>>>> We put the VNI value in the MPLS label field of the PMSI attribute
>>>>for all service types,
>>> and we put a value in the Ethernet Tag field following the rules for
>>>each service type as
>>> described in 5.1.3
>>>(https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay-02#section-
>>> 5.1.3).
>>>>
>>>> You're right that we need to clean up section 9.
>>>>
>>>> Yours Irrespectively,
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US) [mailto:jorge.rabadan@nokia.com]
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 3:53 PM
>>>>> To: John E Drake; EXT - thomas.morin@orange.com; BESS; IDR;
>>>>> draft-ietf-bess-evpn- overlay@tools.ietf.org; Ali Sajassi (sajassi)
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay vs.
>>>>> draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>
>>>>> About this:
>>>>>
>>>>> [JD] For the IMET route the MPLS label field is carried in the PMSI
>>>>> attribute. I think we need to ask everyone whether they used the
>>>>> Ethernet Tag or the PMSI attribute to carry the VNI
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In case it helps, I=B9ve seen a few implementations running and they
>>>>> all encode the VNI in the MPLS label field in the PTA. And a couple
>>>>> of them, encode the VNI in the ethernet-tag, in addition to the MPLS
>>>>> label in the PTA. In any case, I think section 9 contradicts section
>>>>>5.1.3 and should be
>>> clarified.
>>>>>
>>>>> "5.1.3 Constructing EVPN BGP Routes
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>> the MPLS label field in the MAC Advertisement, Ethernet AD per EVI,
>>>>> and **Inclusive Multicast Ethernet Tag** routes is used to carry the
>>>>>VNI or VSID."
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> Jorge
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/4/16, 8:34 PM, "EXT John E Drake" <jdrake@juniper.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thomas and Jorge,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Snipped, comments inline.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yours Irrespectively,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay (see section 9) relies on the BGP
>>>>>>>> Encapsulation extended to encode the tunnel encap to use for BUM
>>>>>>>> traffic, but contrary to other E-VPN routes, relies on the
>>>>>>>> Ethernet Tag field of the NLRI to encode the VNI/VSID.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [JORGE] This is certainly a leftover from an old version where the
>>>>>>> VNI/VSID was encoded in the ethernet tag for all the routes. The
>>>>>>> VNI should be encoded in the Label field in all the routes. This
>>>>>>>has to be corrected.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In fact, section 5.1.3 says:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5.1.3 Constructing EVPN BGP Routes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Accordingly, and
>>>>>>>    specifically to support the option of locally assigned VNIs,
>>>>>>>the MPLS
>>>>>>>    label field in the MAC Advertisement, Ethernet AD per EVI, and
>>>>>>>    Inclusive Multicast Ethernet Tag routes is used to carry the
>>>>>>>VNI or
>>>>>>>    VSID.  For the balance of this memo, the MPLS label field will
>>>>>>>be
>>>>>>>    referred to as the VNI/VSID field. The VNI/VSID field is used
>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>    both local and global VNIs/VSIDs, and for either case the
>>>>>>>entire 24-
>>>>>>>    bit field is used to encode the VNI/VSID value.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [JD]  For the IMET route the MPLS label field is carried in the PMSI
>>>>>> attribute.  I think we
>>>>> need to ask everyone whether they
>>>>>> used the Ethernet Tag or the PMSI attribute to carry the VNI
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There are minor things that could be improved in
>>>>>>>>> draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay wrt. consistency with
>>>>>>>>> draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * since draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps will deprecate RFC5512, it
>>>>>>>>> would be better that draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay refers to
>>>>>>>>> draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps and not anymore to RFC5512.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [JORGE] I agree, as long as draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps keeps the
>>>>>>> encapsulation extended community. There are a few implementations
>>>>>>> using this community and it is enough when only the encapsulation
>>>>>>>type is needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [JD]   I agree and the tunnel encaps draft does keep the EC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * I think it would be better to avoid the explicit list of encap
>>>>>>>>> types in section 5.1.3, and rather refer to
>>>>>>>>> draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps instead
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [JORGE] I agree.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [JD]  According to IANA, it allocated the five tunnels types to the
>>>>>> overlay draft so I think we need to keep them
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * the following minor modification was proposed, but not yet
>>>>>>>>>incorporated:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     John Drake, 2015-11-13 (to BESS ML):
>>>>>>>>>>     For the overlay draft, replace this text in section 5.1.3:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     "If the BGP Encapsulation extended community is not present,
>>>>>>>>>> then the default MPLS encapsulation or a statically configured
>>>>>>>>>> encapsulation is assumed."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     With the following:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     "Note that the MPLS encapsulation tunnel type is needed in
>>>>>>>>>> order to distinguish between an advertising node that only
>>>>>>>>>> supports non-MPLS encapsulations and one that supports MPLS and
>>>>>>>>>> non-MPLS encapsulations.  An  advertising node that only
>>>>>>>>>> supports MPLS encapsulation does not need to advertise any
>>>>>>>>>> encapsulation tunnel types;  i.e.,  if the BGP Encapsulation
>>>>>>>>>> extended community is not present, then either MPLS
>>>>>>>>>> encapsulation or a statically configured encapsulation is
>>>>>>>>>>assumed."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think this change is useful and should be incorporated,
>>>>>>>>> although skipping the last sentence would be wise if the full
>>>>>>>>> list of tunnel types is removed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [JD]  Fine with me either w/ or w/o the last sentence
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>
>


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I support WG LC of this draft as a co-author. This draft has been
implemented in Cisco switches for a while. Furthermore, I am not aware of
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Support as a co-author. I am not aware of any IPR that hasn=B9t already bee=
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>Hello working group,
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Thomas,

I'm sorry for the tardy response.  I support the publication of this draft =
as it describes a de-facto industry standard control plane for NVO3 network=
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Yours Irrespectively,

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the BGP Enabled ServiceS of the IETF.

        Title           : VPWS support in EVPN
        Authors         : Sami Boutros
                          Ali Sajassi
                          Samer Salam
                          John Drake
                          Jeff Tantsura
                          Dirk Steinberg
                          Thomas Beckhaus
                          Jorge Rabadan
	Filename        : draft-ietf-bess-evpn-vpws-07.txt
	Pages           : 13
	Date            : 2016-07-05

Abstract:
   This document describes how EVPN can be used to support Virtual
   Private Wire Service (VPWS) in MPLS/IP networks. EVPN enables the
   following characteristics for VPWS: single-active as well as all-
   active multi-homing with flow-based load-balancing, eliminates the
   need for traditional way of PW signaling, and provides fast
   protection convergence upon node or link failure.


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the BGP Enabled ServiceS of the IETF.

        Title           : Multicast VPN fast upstream failover
        Authors         : Thomas Morin
                          Robert Kebler
	Filename        : draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover-01.txt
	Pages           : 18
	Date            : 2016-07-07

Abstract:
   This document defines multicast VPN extensions and procedures that
   allow fast failover for upstream failures, by allowing downstream PEs
   to take into account the status of Provider-Tunnels (P-tunnels) when
   selecting the upstream PE for a VPN multicast flow, and extending BGP
   MVPN routing so that a C-multicast route can be advertized toward a
   standby upstream PE.



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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the BGP Enabled ServiceS of the IETF.

        Title           : Interconnect Solution for EVPN Overlay networks
        Authors         : Jorge Rabadan
                          Senthil Sathappan
                          Wim Henderickx
                          Senad Palislamovic
                          Ali Sajassi
                          Dennis Cai
	Filename        : draft-ietf-bess-dci-evpn-overlay-03.txt
	Pages           : 22
	Date            : 2016-07-07

Abstract:
   This document describes how Network Virtualization Overlay networks
   (NVO) can be connected to a Wide Area Network (WAN) in order to
   extend the layer-2 connectivity required for some tenants. The
   solution analyzes the interaction between NVO networks running EVPN
   and other L2VPN technologies used in the WAN, such as VPLS/PBB-VPLS
   or EVPN/PBB-EVPN, and proposes a solution for the interworking
   between both.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
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>>On 6/13/16, 5:25 AM, "BESS on behalf of thomas.morin@orange.com"
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>>
>>>Hello Working Group,
>>>
>>>(Please read carefully, this e-mail contains new elements compared to WG
>>>LCs we were doing in a still recent past.)
>>>
>>>This email starts a Working Group Last Call on
>>>draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay [1].
>>>
>>>* Please read the document if you haven't read the most recent
>>>version yet, and send your comments to the list, no later than
>>>*27th of June*.
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>>>
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Support as a co-author. Not aware of any IPR.
- Ravi.

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the BGP Enabled ServiceS of the IETF.

        Title           : Yang Data Model for EVPN
        Authors         : Patrice Brissette
                          Ali Sajassi
                          Himanshu Shah
                          Zhenbin Li
                          Kishore Tiruveedhula
                          Iftekar Hussain
                          Jorge Rabadan
	Filename        : draft-ietf-bess-evpn-yang-01.txt
	Pages           : 26
	Date            : 2016-07-08

Abstract:
   This document describes a YANG data model for Ethernet VPN services.
   The model is agnostic of the underlay. It apply to MPLS as well as to
   VxLAN encapsulation. The model is also agnostic of the services
   including E-LAN, E-LINE and E-TREE services. Any "add-on" features
   such as EVPN IRB, EVPN overlay, etc. are for future investigation.
   This document mainly focuses on EVPN and Ethernet-Segment instance
   framework.


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I support the publication, but most of the section 10.2 should be removed, =
as discussed in https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/i-PHLkWrErDRbX6P=
s5Um-j9Oxzo. The issue is not specific to "evpn-overlay", and there is a se=
parate new draft discussing it already.

Jeffrey


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the BGP Enabled ServiceS of the IETF.

        Title           : Updated processing of control flags for BGP VPLS
        Authors         : Ravi Singh
                          Kireeti Kompella
                          Senad Palislamovic
	Filename        : draft-ietf-bess-bgp-vpls-control-flags-01.txt
	Pages           : 8
	Date            : 2016-07-08

Abstract:
   This document updates the meaning of the "control flags" fields
   inside the "layer2 info extended community" used for BGP-VPLS NLRI.



The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
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Hi everyone

We've just posted the agenda (still subject to changes) for our meeting 
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https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/96/agenda/agenda-96-bess

M&T


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Hello,

now that the agenda has been posted, please start sending your 
presentation material to Thomas and I.

Please do so before Sunday the 17th of July, 23h59 local time.

Thank you

M&T


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Hi,

We have setup a joint MVPN design team and worked on a MVPN YANG draft,
http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-liu-bess-mvpn-yang-01.txt

MVPN relates to areas such as MPLS/BGP VPN, P2MP(LDP/TE/GRE), welcome to re=
view and comment on it

Thank you,
Feng

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WG, just to clarify, this is not a DT as commonly understood but a group 
of authors.

Le 09/07/2016 14:37, Guofeng a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> We have setup a joint MVPN design team and worked on a MVPN YANG draft,
>
> http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-liu-bess-mvpn-yang-01.txt
>
> MVPN relates to areas such as MPLS/BGP VPN, P2MP(LDP/TE/GRE), welcome to
> review and comment on it
>
> Thank you,
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> Feng
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Support as a standard, not aware of any IPR related to this draft..

Thanks,
	Jim Uttaro

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Support as standard.
Not aware of IPR related to this draft

We have implemented this in multiple products in Nokia: 7x50 product family=
 and Nuage.

>
>On 6/13/16, 5:25 AM, "BESS on behalf of thomas.morin@orange.com"
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>>Hello Working Group,
>>
>>(Please read carefully, this e-mail contains new elements compared to WG
>>LCs we were doing in a still recent past.)
>>
>>This email starts a Working Group Last Call on
>>draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay [1].
>>
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>>Thank you,
>>
>>Thomas/Martin
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>>
>>[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-overlay
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Respected Authors,

Appreciate your efforts and hard work put in this draft. I have one small query on this draft. In a service provider network the probability of upgrading all the routers at the same time are very low. In that case a router is not capable of understanding this new community, it will be dropping the advertisement correct me if I am wrong. 

section 3.1

In other
words, in case of discrepancy, the multi-homing for that pair of PEs
is assumed to be in default "root" mode for that  or . The leaf indication flag on Ethernet A-D per EVI route
tells the receiving PEs that all MAC addresses associated with this
 or  are from a leaf site. Therefore, if a
PE receives a leaf indication for an AC via the Ethernet A-D per EVI
route but doesn’t receive a leaf indication in the corresponding MAC
route, then it notify the operator and ignore the leaf indication on
the Ethernet A-D per EVI route.

section 3.2.1 

This Leaf label is advertised to other PE devices, using a
new EVPN Extended Community called E-TREE Extended Community (section
5.1) along with an Ethernet A-D per ES route with ESI of zero and a
set of Route Targets (RTs) corresponding to all EVIs on the PE with
at least one leaf site per EVI.


Correct me if I am wrong,apologies for redundant question section 3.1 says the leaf label is advertised on type 1 AD per EVI and section 3.2.1 says type 1 AD per ES.

which one will be used.


Now in a scenario where PE does not understand the new community acting as a root, if the type 1 route is coming from leaf node in a ES. Then if the remote PE drops the type 1 advertisement because it is not able to follow the the new community. How to take care of this kind of issue.

Regards,
Sudhin


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Respected Authors,<br />
<br />
Appreciate your efforts and hard work put in this draft. I have one small q=
uery on this draft. In a service provider network the probability of upgrad=
ing all the routers at the same time are very low. In that case a router is=
 not capable of understanding this new community, it will be dropping the a=
dvertisement correct me if I am wrong. <br />
<br />
section 3.1<br />
<br />
In other<br />
words, in case of discrepancy, the multi-homing for that pair of PEs<br />
is assumed to be in default "root" mode for that <ESI, EVI> or <ESI,<br />
EVI/VLAN>. The leaf indication flag on Ethernet A-D per EVI route<br />
tells the receiving PEs that all MAC addresses associated with this<br />
<ESI, EVI> or <ESI, EVI/VLAN> are from a leaf site. Therefore, if a<br />
PE receives a leaf indication for an AC via the Ethernet A-D per EVI<br />
route but doesn=E2=80=99t receive a leaf indication in the corresponding MA=
C<br />
route, then it notify the operator and ignore the leaf indication on<br />
the Ethernet A-D per EVI route.<br />
<br />
section 3.2.1 <br />
<br />
This Leaf label is advertised to other PE devices, using a<br />
new EVPN Extended Community called E-TREE Extended Community (section<br />
5.1) along with an Ethernet A-D per ES route with ESI of zero and a<br />
set of Route Targets (RTs) corresponding to all EVIs on the PE with<br />
at least one leaf site per EVI.<br />
<br />
<br />
Correct me if I am wrong,apologies for redundant question section 3.1 says =
the leaf label is advertised on type 1 AD per EVI and section 3.2.1 says ty=
pe 1 AD per ES.<br />
<br />
which one will be used.<br />
<br />
<br />
Now in a scenario where PE does not understand the new community acting as =
a root, if the type 1 route is coming from leaf node in a ES. Then if the r=
emote PE drops the type 1 advertisement because it is not able to follow th=
e the new community. How to take care of this kind of issue.<br />
<br />
Regards,<br />
Sudhin<br />
<br />
<br>
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Hello all,

RFC7024 describes "Virtual Hub-and-Spoke in BGP/MPLS VPNs"
The RFC describes a model where the virtual spokes rely on a default route,
and the virtual hubs use more specific routing information to forward
traffic correctly.

Would it be possible to implement a virtual hub-and-spoke VPN where the
virtual spokes use more specific routing information to forward traffic, in
particular to forward traffic via the optimal correct hub?

The case would be for instance:
- A set of access v-spoke PEs
- Multiple sets of service v-hub PEs
- Multiple sets of service v-spoke PEs

The access v-spoke PEs have a relation with all service v-hub PEs
The service v-spoke PEs are divided over the different sets of service
v-hub PEs

In other words, specific services / IP destinations are reachable via
specific h-hub PEs.

The idea is the have more specific routing in (at least) the acces v-spoke
PEs to allow them to select the correct servcie v-hub PE.

Thanks!

/Eduard

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hello all,<div><br></div><div>RFC7024 describes &quot;Virt=
ual Hub-and-Spoke in BGP/MPLS VPNs&quot;</div><div>The RFC describes a mode=
l where the virtual spokes rely on a default route, and the virtual hubs us=
e more specific routing information to forward traffic correctly.</div><div=
><br></div><div>Would it be possible to implement a virtual hub-and-spoke V=
PN where the virtual spokes use more specific routing information to forwar=
d traffic, in particular to forward traffic via the optimal correct hub?</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>The case would be for instance:</div><div>- A set of=
 access v-spoke PEs</div><div>- Multiple sets of service v-hub PEs</div><di=
v>- Multiple sets of service v-spoke PEs</div><div><br></div><div>The acces=
s v-spoke PEs have a relation with all service v-hub PEs</div><div>The serv=
ice v-spoke PEs are divided over the different sets of service v-hub PEs</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>In other words, specific services / IP destinations =
are reachable via specific h-hub PEs.</div><div><br></div><div>The idea is =
the have more specific routing in (at least) the acces v-spoke PEs to allow=
 them to select the correct servcie v-hub PE.</div><div><br></div><div>Than=
ks!</div><div><br></div><div>/Eduard</div><div><br></div></div>

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Speakers,

deadline is in less than 12 hrs and we still have not received a single 
set of slides ...
The agenda is pretty full, don't take the risk of seeing your slot moved 
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Jeffrey and team,
      Any progress on the MIB matters
(draft-ietf-bess-l2l3-vpn-mcast-mib-05.txt,
  draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-mib-03.txt )?

Glenn
On 2016/06/07 18:39, Glenn Mansfield Keeni wrote:
> Hi Jeffrey,
>    Thanks for the good work on draft-ietf-bess-l2l3-vpn-mcast-mib
> document. It took me some time to do this review. But now here it
> is. A (near complete) review of
> draft-ietf-bess-l2l3-vpn-mcast-mib-04.txt is attached. Hope this helps.
>    I understand that the Security Considerations section is TBD.
>
>    Glenn
>
> On 2016/05/19 4:48, Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang wrote:
>> Hi Glenn,
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Glenn Mansfield Keeni [mailto:glenn@cysols.com]
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 11:02 AM
>>> To: Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang <zzhang@juniper.net>; Benoit Claise
>>> <bclaise@cisco.com>; EXT - thomas.morin@orange.com
>>> <thomas.morin@orange.com>
>>> Cc: Mach Chen <mach.chen@huawei.com>; ops-ads@ietf.org; Martin Vigoureux
>>> <martin.vigoureux@nokia.com>; bess@ietf.org; mib-doctors@ietf.org
>>> Subject: Re: [bess] MIBDoc review of draft-ietf-bess-l2l3-vpn-mcast-mib-
>>> 02.txt
>>>
>>> Jeffrey,
>>>  > Thanks for your comments. I've addressed most of your comments
>>>  > in the new revision:
>>> Thanks for your cooperation. I will need at least one more revision
>>> with the following comments/recommendations addressed before I will
>>> be able to complete the detailed review. In the following the numbers
>>> refer to the issue numbers in the initial review. The issues that are
>>> addressed and closed are not listed. For brevity, the issue
>>> descriptions have been trimmed. In case of doubts please look at the
>>> response mail appended below.
>>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Thanks for your detailed comments/suggestions. I posted a new revision
>> with the following issues addressed.
>>
>> URL:
>> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-bess-l2l3-vpn-mcast-mib-04.txt
>>
>> Status:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-l2l3-vpn-mcast-mib/
>> Htmlized:
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bess-l2l3-vpn-mcast-mib-04
>> Diff:
>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-bess-l2l3-vpn-mcast-mib-04
>>
>> Please see some notes below.
>>
>>>
>>> Glenn
>>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Comments:
>>>
>>> 1.1
>>>  >  I had thought this would be standard/obvious for all MIB objects -
>>> We will comeback to this time and again, whereever possible make
>>> matters explicit and clear. That will help.
>>>  >  Is it enough to say something similar? For example:
>>>  >          In particular, it describes common managed objects used
>>>  >          to configure and/or monitor both L2 and L3 VPN Multicast.
>>> That is better.
>>
>> I take it that this is already closed in -03 revision.
>>
>>>
>>> 2.2
>>>  >  Having said that, I'll explain PMSI a bit further.
>>> PMSI explanation is good.
>>> Please use the same style/format for I-PMSI and S-PMSI.
>>
>> I think -03 revision already use the same style/format for I-PMSI and
>> S-PMSI?
>>
>>>
>>> 2.3
>>>  >  No difference. I was using "Layer 3" or "L3" but it was pointed out
>>>  > that the layer 3 VPN is often referred to IP VPN in other RFCs and I
>>>  > was advised to change it accordingly. Looks like I did not change all
>>>  > the cases.
>>>  >  On the other hand, I noticed that RFC 4382 does use "Layer 3 VPN" so
>>>  > I'll change it back.
>>> No problems. just make sure that the same expression/notation is used
>>> uniformly.
>>
>> I take it that this is also addressed in -03 already.
>>
>>> 3.
>>>  >  > > 3.  Summary of MIB Module.
>>>  >  > >     An overview of the L2L3-VPN-MCAST-MIB will be good- the
>>>  >  > >     structure of the MIB, short descriptions of the table(s)
>>>  >  > >     including usage of the table(s) for management and/or by
>>>  >  > >     other MIB(s).
>>>  >
>>>  >  I had that, but have added one sentence about the only table.
>>> A sentence or two about the textual convention will be good.
>>
>> Added in -04.
>>
>>>  >  > > 4. MIB syntax checking:
>>>  >  > >    smilint -s -e -l 5 mibs/L2L3-VPN-MCAST-MIB
>>> 2>L2L3-VPN-MCAST-MIB.txt
>>>  >
>>>  >  I used simpleweb's validation tool but looks like I did not use the
>>>  > strictest level of validation. I've now fixed the following issues
>>> and
>>>  > verified.
>>> Good.
>>> 5.
>>>  >  > >
>>>  >  > > 5. REFERENCE clauses: Please use REFERENCE clauses liberally.
>>>  >  > >    Wherever possible, provide references for objects used in
>>>  >  > >    the MIB. The references will point to specific sections/
>>>  >  > >    sub-sections of the RFCs defining the protocol for which the
>>>  >  > >    MIB is being designed. It will greatly improve the
>>> readability
>>>  >  > >    of the document.
>>>  >
>>>  >  Added.
>>> I would recommend using the REFERENCE clause as in rfs4382 and
>>> improve on it.
>>> Specifically, instead of keeping the reference in the DESCRIPTION
>>> clause move it to a separate REFERENCE clause. The addition of the
>>> section number is an improvement. It is friendlier to the reader.
>>> Note. Same comment for other OBJECTs too.
>>
>> Oh I missed that. All fixed.
>>
>>> 7.1
>>>  >  > > 7.1 CONTACT-INFO
>>>  >  > >     Following the conventions (including indentation style) will
>>>  >  > >     improve the readability. (e.g. RFC4382, RFC5132).
>>>  >  > >     Will be good if it does not overflow into the next page.
>>>  >
>>>  >  Fixed.
>>> The format is OK. The Postal address etc., need not have been
>>> deleted. Please put the complete contact information as in the
>>> Author's Address. (RFC 2578 section 5.7 gives a usage example).
>>
>> Fixed.
>>
>>> 7.3
>>>  >  I kept "experimental 99" so that I could continue to use mib tools
>>>  > to validate; but I added notes for the editor to replace them as you
>>>  > indicated.
>>> Use of "experimental 99" is not recommended.
>>
>> Do you mean 99 is not a good number? What about 9999? As I explained,
>> I kept it so that we can use mib tools to validate, and I've added
>> detailed notes for the editor.
>>
>>> 8
>>>  >  > > 8. Specific MO and TC related comments.
>>>  >  Are spaces allowed? I don't know so I used hyphen. For now I replace
>>>  > with things like rsvpP2mp.
>>> Yes. Camelcase is an allowed practice. SMI does not mind it.
>>
>> Ok this is closed already then.
>>
>>> 8.2
>>>  >  > > 8.2   l2L3VpnMcastPmsiTunnelAttributeFlags OBJECT-TYPE
>>>  >  The intent is to simply return the octet value of the flags
>>>  > field, w/o listing individual bits like "Leaf Information Required".
>>>  > More bits could be defined in the future but the MIB would not
>>> change.
>>>  >
>>>  >  Is that OK?
>>> As far as possible, the meaning of the objects must be made clear.
>>> That will help implementors and operators- users of the MIB.
>>
>> I added the definition for one existing bit and reference to the IANA
>> registry being created for this flag field.
>>
>>>
>>> 8.3
>>>  >  > > 8.3   l2L3VpnMcastPmsiTunnelAttributeId OBJECT-TYPE
>>>  >  Depending on the tunnel type, there could be different sizes.
>>>  > Future tunnel types could have other sizes that not specified
>>>  > today. I was thinking to just give a size
>>>  > tPmsiTunnelAttributeId OBJECT-TYPE range so that it is flexible.
>>>  > Is that ok?
>>> I see that you have changed the size upper limit to 50.
>>> If the size varies continuously from 0 to 50 the above description
>>> is correct.
>>> Please confirm, explain and cite appropriate reference. If the size
>>> may change in the future that must be stated too.
>>
>> I changed to discrete sizes for currently defined tunnel types.
>>
>>>
>>> 8.4
>>>  >  > > 8.4  l2L3VpnMcastPmsiTunnelIf OBJECT-TYPE
>>>  >  > >         SYNTAX        RowPointer
>>>  >  > >         MAX-ACCESS    read-only
>>>  >  > >         STATUS        current
>>>  >  > >         DESCRIPTION
>>>  >  > >             "If the tunnel has a corresponding interface,
>>>  >  > >              this is the row pointer to the ifName table."
>>>  >  > >      o DESCRIPTION looks incorrect. Please fix it. Do you
>>>  >  > >        want to say this object points to the corresponding
>>>  >  > >        row in the ifTable?
>>>  >
>>>  >  Yes. Fixed.
>>> Not quite.
>>>     What is ifName table ? ifName is a columnar object in the ifXTable.
>>>     Is l2L3VpnMcastPmsiTunnelIf a pointer to the corresponding row in
>>> the
>>>     ifXTable table ? Please fix accordingly.
>>
>> You're right. Fixed.
>>
>>>
>>> 9.
>>>  >  > > 9. The Security Considerations section does not follow
>>>  >  > >    the Security Guidelines for IETF MIB Modules
>>>  >  > >    http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/mib-security.
>>>  >  > >    Please fix.
>>>  >
>>>  >  I was really hoping that it would not have to be that
>>>  > tedious. SNMP/MIB secur
>>> ity should be no different from the
>>>  > CLI security - once you secure the infrastructure
>>>  > then what's more to do?
>>>  >
>>>  >  I'll need more time to work on this. Let me try to address
>>>  > the issues in the other mib first and come back to this.
>>>
>>> Please take your time. Looking at examples will help. And let me
>>> know where I can help.
>>
>> I will need to work on that later.
>>
>>>
>>> 10.1
>>>  >  > > 10.1 Checking nits according to
>>>  >  > > http://www.ietf.org/id-info/checklist :
>>>  >  Should I break them into different lines or just keep them
>>>  >  as is? Any example of expected indentation if I break the
>>>  >  lines?
>>> No problems at all to  break lines.
>>>       l2L3VpnMcastGroups      OBJECT IDENTIFIER
>>>                               ::= {l2L3VpnMcastConformance 1}
>>> Should do.
>>
>> Done.
>>
>>>
>>> 10.2
>>>  >  > > 10.2 Checking references for intended status: Proposed Standard
>>>  >  > >      == Missing Reference: 'RFC 7117' is mentioned on line 76,
>>>  >  > >          but not defined
>>>  >  > >         'described in [RFC6513, RFC6514, RFC 7117] and other
>>>  >  I hope I understood and fixed it (removing the space in "RFC 7117").
>>> I would recommend that you put it as [RFC6513], [RFC6514], [RFC7117]
>>> That is simpler to parse.
>>
>> I see some other documents do not have comma between multiple
>> references so I followed that.
>>
>>>
>>>  >  > > 11.  There is another WIP MVPN-MIB in
>>>  >  > >      draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-mib-02.txt
>>>  >  > >      MVPN-MIB has objects that refer to L2L3-VPN-MCAST-MIB.
>>>  >  > >      Is there a good reason for not merging the 2 documents?
>>>  >  > >      I have not seen any discussion or explanation on this.
>>>  >  > >      I may have missed it.
>>>  >  > >      Please clarify or, give some pointers.
>>>  >
>>>  >  As mentioned in the introduction:
>>>  >
>>>  >     this memo describes managed objects common to both VPLS
>>>  >     Multicast [RFC7117] and MVPN [RFC6513, RFC6514].
>>>  >     MVPN-MIB is for MVPN. There was another VPLS Multicast MIB
>>>  >     in the work and both would reference common
>>>
>>>  >     objects defined in this MIB.
>>>
>>> OK. So you are saying that this MIB contains core objects that
>>> will be used to manage implementations of various multicast VPN
>>> protocols e.g. [RFC7117], [RFC6513],[RFC6514] ? It will help if
>>> you spell it out at the beginning.
>>
>> Yes. I thought I did it already:
>>
>> 1.  Introduction
>>
>>    ... and this memo describes managed objects common to both VPLS
>>    Multicast [RFC7117] and MVPN [RFC6513, RFC6514].
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Jeffrey
>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> On 2016/04/16 21:47, Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang wrote:
>>>> Glenn,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your comments. I've addressed most of your comments in the
>>> new revision:
>>>>
>>>> URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-bess-
>>> l2l3-vpn-mcast-mib-03.txt
>>>> Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-l2l3-
>>> vpn-mcast-mib/
>>>> Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bess-l2l3-vpn-
>>> mcast-mib-03
>>>> Diff:           https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-bess-l2l3-
>>> vpn-mcast-mib-03
>>>>
>>>> Please see below.
>>>>
>>>>> 1.  Abstract:
>>>>> 1.1 A sentence on how the managed objects will be used by
>>>>>     applications for operations, monitoring and management
>>>>>     would be good.
>>>>
>>>> I had thought this would be standard/obvious for all MIB objects - the
>>> read-write ones are used to control how a device works, and the
>>> read-only
>>> ones are used for monitoring. Do I really need to say it explicitly?
>>>>
>>>> I see RFC 4382 has the following:
>>>>
>>>>    This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB)
>>>>    for use with network management protocols in the Internet community.
>>>>    In particular, it describes managed objects to configure and/or
>>>>    monitor Multiprotocol Label Switching Layer-3 Virtual Private
>>>>    Networks on a Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) Label Switching
>>>>    Router (LSR) supporting this feature.
>>>>
>>>> Is it enough to say something similar? For example:
>>>>
>>>>         In particular, it describes common managed objects used to
>>> configure
>>>>         and/or monitor both L2 and L3 VPN Multicast.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2.  Introduction
>>>>> 2.1 Please give the full expansion of the abbreviations
>>>>>     appearing for the first time.  (PE, VPLS,..)
>>>>
>>>> Fixed.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2.2 The terminology section is a bit terse. Explaining the
>>>>>     terms that are used, nicely with reference to the protocol
>>>>>     documents will improve readability.
>>>>>     e.g.
>>>>>      - PMSI, I-PMSI, S-PMSI, provider tunnels
>>>>
>>>> As the paragraph alluded to, this MIB needs to be understood in the
>>> general context of L2/L3 multicast VPN and providing good explanation of
>>> the terms is not attempted. The references for the terms are the the
>>> RFCs
>>> for the relevant technologies.
>>>>
>>>> Having said that, I'll explain PMSI a bit further.
>>>>
>>>>> 2.3 Is there a difference between
>>>>>        "multicast in Layer 2 and Layer 3 VPNs , defined by
>>>>>         RFC 7117 and RFC 6513/6514"
>>>>>     used in the DESCRIPTION in the MODULE-IDENTITY
>>>>>     and
>>>>>        "multicast in BGP/MPLS L2 or IP VPN"
>>>>>     used in the DESCRIPTION of L2L3VpnMcastProviderTunnelType ?
>>>>>     If these are the same, it will be helpful to stick to the
>>>>>     same expression. If these are not the same, the dictinction
>>>>>     should be clarified.
>>>>
>>>> No difference. I was using "Layer 3" or "L3" but it was pointed out
>>>> that
>>> the layer 3 VPN is often referred to IP VPN in other RFCs and I was
>>> advised to change it accordingly. Looks like I did not change all the
>>> cases.
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand, I noticed that RFC 4382 does use "Layer 3 VPN" so
>>> I'll change it back.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 3.  Summary of MIB Module.
>>>>>     An overview of the L2L3-VPN-MCAST-MIB will be good- the
>>>>>     structure of the MIB, short descriptions of the table(s)
>>>>>     including usage of the table(s) for management and/or by
>>>>>     other MIB(s).
>>>>
>>>> I had that, but have added one sentence about the only table.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> MIB definitions:
>>>>> 4. MIB syntax checking:
>>>>>    smilint -s -e -l 5 mibs/L2L3-VPN-MCAST-MIB 2>L2L3-VPN-MCAST-MIB.txt
>>>>
>>>> I used simpleweb's validation tool but looks like I did not use the
>>> strictest level of validation. I've now fixed the following issues and
>>> verified.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    mibs/L2L3-VPN-MCAST-MIB:63: [4] {hyphen-in-label} warning: named
>>> number `rsvp-p2mp' must not include a hyphen in SMIv2
>>>>>    mibs/L2L3-VPN-MCAST-MIB:64: [4] {hyphen-in-label} warning: named
>>> number `ldp-p2mp' must not include a hyphen in SMIv2
>>>>>    mibs/L2L3-VPN-MCAST-MIB:65: [4] {hyphen-in-label} warning: named
>>> number `pim-asm' must not include a hyphen in SMIv2
>>>>>    mibs/L2L3-VPN-MCAST-MIB:66: [4] {hyphen-in-label} warning: named
>>> number `pim-ssm' must not include a hyphen in SMIv2
>>>>>    mibs/L2L3-VPN-MCAST-MIB:67: [4] {hyphen-in-label} warning: named
>>> number `pim-bidir' must not include a hyphen in SMIv2
>>>>>    mibs/L2L3-VPN-MCAST-MIB:68: [4] {hyphen-in-label} warning: named
>>> number `ingress-replication' must not include a hyphen in SMIv2
>>>>>    mibs/L2L3-VPN-MCAST-MIB:69: [4] {hyphen-in-label} warning: named
>>> number `ldp-mp2mp' must not include a hyphen in SMIv2
>>>>
>>>> See later question/comments below.
>>>>
>>>>>    mibs/L2L3-VPN-MCAST-MIB:215: [5] {group-unref} warning: current
>>> group `l2L3VpnMcastOptionalGroup' is not referenced in this module
>>>>>    mibs/L2L3-VPN-MCAST-MIB:4: [5] {import-unused} warning: identifier
>>> `NOTIFICATION-TYPE' imported from module `SNMPv2-SMI' is never used
>>>>>    mibs/L2L3-VPN-MCAST-MIB:5: [5] {import-unused} warning: identifier
>>> `Unsigned32' imported from module `SNMPv2-SMI' is never used
>>>>>    mibs/L2L3-VPN-MCAST-MIB:8: [5] {import-unused} warning: identifier
>>> `NOTIFICATION-GROUP' imported from module `SNMPv2-CONF' is never used
>>>>>    mibs/L2L3-VPN-MCAST-MIB:11: [5] {import-unused} warning: identifier
>>> `TruthValue' imported from module `SNMPv2-TC' is never used
>>>>>    mibs/L2L3-VPN-MCAST-MIB:11: [5] {import-unused} warning: identifier
>>> `RowStatus' imported from module `SNMPv2-TC' is never used
>>>>>    mibs/L2L3-VPN-MCAST-MIB:12: [5] {import-unused} warning: identifier
>>> `TimeStamp' imported from module `SNMPv2-TC' is never used
>>>>>    mibs/L2L3-VPN-MCAST-MIB:12: [5] {import-unused} warning: identifier
>>> `TimeInterval' imported from module `SNMPv2-TC' is never used
>>>>>    mibs/L2L3-VPN-MCAST-MIB:15: [5] {import-unused} warning: identifier
>>> `SnmpAdminString' imported from module `SNMP-FRAMEWORK-MIB' is never
>>> used
>>>>>    mibs/L2L3-VPN-MCAST-MIB:18: [5] {import-unused} warning: identifier
>>> `InetAddress' imported from module `INET-ADDRESS-MIB' is never used
>>>>>    mibs/L2L3-VPN-MCAST-MIB:18: [5] {import-unused} warning: identifier
>>> `InetAddressType' imported from module `INET-ADDRESS-MIB' is never used
>>>>
>>>> Removed the above unused imports.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 5. REFERENCE clauses: Please use REFERENCE clauses liberally.
>>>>>    Wherever possible, provide references for objects used in
>>>>>    the MIB. The references will point to specific sections/
>>>>>    sub-sections of the RFCs defining the protocol for which the
>>>>>    MIB is being designed. It will greatly improve the readability
>>>>>    of the document.
>>>>
>>>> Added.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 6. IMPORTS clause
>>>>>    MIB modules from which items are imported must be cited and
>>>>>    included in the normative references.
>>>>>    The conventional style is
>>>>>      mplsStdMIB
>>>>>         FROM MPLS-TC-STD-MIB                           -- [RFC3811]
>>>>
>>>> Added.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 7. Please update the MODULE-IDENTITY. (There are no syntantic errors.)
>>>>> 7.1 CONTACT-INFO
>>>>>     Following the conventions (including indentation style) will
>>>>>     improve the readability. (e.g. RFC4382, RFC5132).
>>>>>     Will be good if it does not overflow into the next page.
>>>>
>>>> Fixed.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 7.2 REVISION clause: follow the convention recommended in RFC4181
>>>>>     sec 4.5
>>>>>           REVISION    "200212132358Z"  -- December 13, 2002
>>>>>           DESCRIPTION "Initial version, published as RFC yyyy."
>>>>>    -- RFC Ed.: replace yyyy with actual RFC number & remove this note:
>>>>
>>>> Fixed.
>>>>
>>>>> 7.3 OID assignment: follow the convention recommended in RFC4181
>>>>>     sec 4.5 i
>>>>>     replace
>>>>>           ::= { experimental 99 } -- number to be assigned
>>>>>     by
>>>>>           ::= { <subtree> XXX }
>>>>>    -- RFC Ed.: replace XXX with IANA-assigned number & remove this
>>>>> note
>>>>>    <subtree> will be the subtree under which the module will be
>>>>>    registered.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I kept "experimental 99" so that I could continue to use mib tools to
>>> validate; but I added notes for the editor to replace them as you
>>> indicated.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 8. Specific MO and TC related comments.
>>>>>       L2L3VpnMcastProviderTunnelType ::= TEXTUAL-CONVENTION
>>>>>         STATUS       current
>>>>>         DESCRIPTION
>>>>>             "Types of provider tunnels used for multicast in
>>>>>              BGP/MPLS L2 or IP VPN."
>>>>>         SYNTAX       INTEGER { unconfigured (0),
>>>>>                                rsvp-p2mp (1),
>>>>>                                ldp-p2mp (2),
>>>>>                                pim-asm (3),
>>>>>                                pim-ssm (4),
>>>>>                                pim-bidir (5),
>>>>>                                ingress-replication (6),
>>>>>                                ldp-mp2mp (7)
>>>>>
>>>>>     o Would be nice to align the enumeration labels with the
>>>>>       labels in the protocol document RFC 6514 unless there is
>>>>>       a good reason for not doing so. (You will have to take
>>>>>       care of the smi compilation errors too; '-' is not allowed ).
>>>>
>>>> Are spaces allowed? I don't know so I used hyphen. For now I replace
>>> with things like rsvpP2mp.
>>>> Or could/should I just remove the definitions, so that if a new type is
>>> defined in the future there is no need to update the MIB?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 8.1  l2L3VpnMcastPmsiTunnelAttributeEntry OBJECT-TYPE
>>>>>          SYNTAX        L2L3VpnMcastPmsiTunnelAttributeEntry
>>>>>          MAX-ACCESS    not-accessible
>>>>>          STATUS        current
>>>>>          DESCRIPTION
>>>>>              "An entry in this table corresponds to an PMSI attribute
>>>>>               that is advertised/received on this router.
>>>>>               For BGP-based signaling (for I-PMSI via auto-discovery
>>>>>               procedure, or for S-PMSI via S-PMSI A-D routes),
>>>>>               they are just as signaled by BGP (RFC 6514 section 5,
>>>>>               'PMSI Tunnel attribute').
>>>>>               For UDP-based S-PMSI signaling for PIM-MVPN,
>>>>>               they're derived from S-PMSI Join Message
>>>>>               (RFC 6513 section 7.4.2, 'UDP-based Protocol')..
>>>>>
>>>>>               Note that BGP-based signaling may be used for
>>>>>               PIM-MVPN as well."
>>>>>     o Fix the ".." in "'UDP-based Protocol').." above.
>>>>>     o Please give the reference for this Table.
>>>>>       Is it-  "PMSI Tunnel attribute" in RFC 6513 Sec.4  ?
>>>>>               "PMSI Tunnel attribute" in RFC 6514 Sec.5  ?
>>>>>                both?
>>>>>       Any other pointers?
>>>>
>>>> Fixed.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 8.2   l2L3VpnMcastPmsiTunnelAttributeFlags OBJECT-TYPE
>>>>>          SYNTAX        OCTET STRING (SIZE (1))
>>>>>          MAX-ACCESS    not-accessible
>>>>>          STATUS        current
>>>>>          DESCRIPTION
>>>>>              "For UDP-based S-PMSI signaling for PIM-MVPN, this is 0.
>>>>>               For BGP-based I/S-PMSI signaling, this is the Flags
>>>>>               field in PMSI Tunnel Attribute of the corresponding
>>>>>               I/S-PMSI A-D route."
>>>>>          ::= { l2L3VpnMcastPmsiTunnelAttributeEntry 1 }
>>>>>     o  Please confirm that the above is a complete enumeration of the
>>>>>        types of signalling.
>>>>>     o  RFC 6514 Sec.5 says that the Flags field indicates
>>>>>        "Leaf Information Required". That is useful information.
>>>>>        Please include in the description.
>>>>
>>>> The intent is to simply return the octet value of the flags field, w/o
>>> listing individual bits like "Leaf Information Required". More bits
>>> could
>>> be defined in the future but the MIB would not change.
>>>>
>>>> Is that OK?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 8.3   l2L3VpnMcastPmsiTunnelAttributeId OBJECT-TYPE
>>>>>          SYNTAX        OCTET STRING ( SIZE (0..37) )
>>>>>          MAX-ACCESS    not-accessible
>>>>>          STATUS        current
>>>>>          DESCRIPTION
>>>>>              "For UDP-based S-PMSI signaling for PIM-MVPN, the first
>>>>>               four or sixteen octets of this attribute are filled with
>>>>>               the provider tunnel group address (IPv4 or IPv6)..
>>>>>               For BGP-based I/S-PMSI signaling, this is the Tunnel
>>> Identifier
>>>>>               Field in PMSI Tunnel Attribute of the corresponding I/S-
>>> PMSI
>>>>>               A-D route."
>>>>>     o Check the size specifications. The specs above say it can be
>>>>>       all sizes 0..37. That is not clear from the DESCRIPTION clause.
>>>>>     o Fix the ".." in "(IPv4 or IPv6).." above.
>>>>>     o RFC 6514 Sec 5.  PMSI Tunnel Attribute gives the Tunnel
>>> Identifiers
>>>>>       for mLDP, PIM-SM, PIM-SSM, BIDIR-PIM,Ingress Replication,MP2MP.
>>>>>       It appears that the sizes (range) for each case will be
>>>>> different.
>>>>>       Please clarify that, and if there are discrete sizes, specify
>>>>>       accordingly.
>>>>
>>>> Depending on the tunnel type, there could be different sizes. Future
>>> tunnel types could have other sizes that not specified today. I was
>>> thinking to just give a size range so that it is flexible. Is that ok?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 8.3  l2L3VpnMcastPmsiTunnelPointer OBJECT-TYPE
>>>>>         SYNTAX        RowPointer
>>>>>         MAX-ACCESS    read-only
>>>>>         STATUS        current
>>>>>         DESCRIPTION
>>>>>             "If the tunnel exists in some MIB table, this is the
>>>>>              row pointer to it."
>>>>>     o "some MIB table" : specify which MIB table.
>>>>
>>>> I can give an example, like mplsTunnelTable [RFC 3812]. It could be
>>> whatever table that a tunnel may be put into.
>>>>
>>>>>     o In what case will the tunnel exist and in what case will it not?
>>>>
>>>> If a device supports mplsTunnelTable and the tunnel is represented
>>>> there,
>>> then it exists.
>>>>
>>>>>     o What will be the behaviour if the above condition is not
>>> satisfied?
>>>>
>>>> A null pointer should be given.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 8.4  l2L3VpnMcastPmsiTunnelIf OBJECT-TYPE
>>>>>         SYNTAX        RowPointer
>>>>>         MAX-ACCESS    read-only
>>>>>         STATUS        current
>>>>>         DESCRIPTION
>>>>>             "If the tunnel has a corresponding interface, this is the
>>>>>              row pointer to the ifName table."
>>>>>      o DESCRIPTION looks incorrect. Please fix it. Do you want to say
>>>>>        this object points to the corresponding row in the ifTable?
>>>>
>>>> Yes. Fixed.
>>>>
>>>>>      o In what case does the TunnelIf exist and in what case will it
>>> not?
>>>>
>>>> Some tunnels may not have a corresponding interface.
>>>>
>>>>>      o What will be expected if the tunnel does not have a
>>> corresponding
>>>>>        interface?
>>>>
>>>> Null row pointer.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 9. The Security Considerations section does not follow the Security
>>>>>    Guidelines for IETF MIB Modules
>>>>>    http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/mib-security.
>>>>>    Please fix.
>>>>
>>>> I was really hoping that it would not have to be that tedious. SNMP/MIB
>>> security should be no different from the CLI security - once you secure
>>> the infrastructure then what's more to do?
>>>>
>>>> I'll need more time to work on this. Let me try to address the
>>>> issues in
>>> the other mib first and come back to this.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 10.ID-nits
>>>>> 10.1 Checking nits according to
>>>>> http://www.ietf.org/id-info/checklist :
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ---------
>>>>>
>>>>>      ** There are 4 instances of too long lines in the document, the
>>> longest one
>>>>>         being 3 characters in excess of 72.
>>>>
>>>> I fixed some but there still three too long lines:
>>>>
>>>>      l2L3VpnMcastPmsiTunnelAttributeType
>>>> L2L3VpnMcastProviderTunnelType,
>>>>
>>>>   l2L3VpnMcastGroups      OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::=
>>>> {l2L3VpnMcastConformance
>>> 1}
>>>>   l2L3VpnMcastCompliances OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::=
>>>> {l2L3VpnMcastConformance
>>> 2}
>>>>
>>>> Should I break them into different lines or just keep them as is? Any
>>> example of expected indentation if I break the lines?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 10.2 Checking references for intended status: Proposed Standard
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ---------
>>>>>
>>>>>      == Missing Reference: 'RFC 7117' is mentioned on line 76, but not
>>>>>         defined
>>>>>         'described in [RFC6513, RFC6514, RFC 7117] and other documents
>>> tha...'
>>>>
>>>> I hope I understood and fixed it (removing the space in "RFC 7117").
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 11.  There is another WIP MVPN-MIB in draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-mib-02.txt
>>>>>      MVPN-MIB has objects that refer to L2L3-VPN-MCAST-MIB.
>>>>>      Is there a good reason for not merging the 2 documents? I have
>>>>> not
>>> seen
>>>>>      any discussion or explanation on this. I may have missed it.
>>> Please
>>>>>      clarify or, give some pointers.
>>>>
>>>> As mentioned in the introduction:
>>>>
>>>>    this memo describes managed objects common to both VPLS
>>>>    Multicast [RFC7117] and MVPN [RFC6513, RFC6514].
>>>>
>>>> MVPN-MIB is for MVPN. There was another VPLS Multicast MIB in the work
>>> and both would reference common objects defined in this MIB.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Jeffrey
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: BESS [mailto:bess-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Mansfield
>>>>> Keeni
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 2:28 AM
>>>>> To: Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com>; EXT - thomas.morin@orange.com
>>>>> <thomas.morin@orange.com>
>>>>> Cc: Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang <zzhang@juniper.net>; ops-ads@ietf.org;
>>> Martin
>>>>> Vigoureux <martin.vigoureux@nokia.com>; bess@ietf.org; Mach Chen
>>>>> <mach.chen@huawei.com>
>>>>> Subject: [bess] MIBDoc review of draft-ietf-bess-l2l3-vpn-mcast-mib-
>>> 02.txt
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I have been asked to do a MIB Doctors review of
>>>>> draft-ietf-bess-l2l3-vpn-mcast-mib-02.txt.
>>>>> My knowledge of L2L3VPN Multicast is limited to the reading
>>>>> of this document and browsing through the documents referred
>>>>> to in the draft and bess-wg mailing list archives.( read "shallow").
>>>>> So some of the doubts and questions may sound trivial or
>>>>> strange. Please bear with me and help me help you make
>>>>> this into a better document :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> The comments are attached.
>>>>>
>>>>> Glenn
>>>>>
>>>>
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Speakers,

We are still missing 3 of the slide decks:

draft-anshuverma-bess-vpls-best-site-id-02
10min, Anshu

draft-zzhang-bess-mvpn-evpn-cmcast-enhancements-00
20min, Jeffrey

draft-sajassi-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy-00
10min, Ali

Please post your slides tomorrow...

Best,

-Thomas

17/07/2016 à 12:53, Martin Vigoureux:
> Speakers,
>
> deadline is in less than 12 hrs and we still have not received a 
> single set of slides ...
> The agenda is pretty full, don't take the risk of seeing your slot 
> moved at the end of the agenda.
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Hello BESS,

Just wanted to draw your attention to
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wu-opsawg-service-model-explained/

This draft (by the L3SM chairs) attempts to describe what a service model is in
order to distinguish the work we do in L3SM from the work done elsewhere in the
IETF (such as BESS).

What we don't want to do is say that the data models in BESS are in any way
wrong, bad, evil, or inappropriate. Indeed, our Figure 3 shows (we hope) where
some of BESS's models might plug in, and how this is different from where L3SM's
model plugs in.

It is inevitably a first attempt at getting this right. We would definitely
appreciate your opinions which would ideally be sent to the OPSAWG mailing list.

Thanks,
Adrian


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Hi,

Some questions on the draft:

- Section 4 mentions that LSP-Ping is needed to exchange discriminators
because the MPLS label stack doesn=B9t contain enough information to
disambiguate the sender of the session. Isn=B9t the IP hdr enough?

- Section 7.1.1 mentions SH label, I believe this is the ESI label as per
section 8.3 of RFC7432?

- There are alternative encapsulation formats with sub-TLVs for unicast
and multicast. Is it an alternative to the label stack or on top of the
label stack? Even if obvious, I think the advantage of those alternative
formats should be stated.

Regards,
Reshad.




On 2016-07-19, 4:24 AM, "Rtg-bfd on behalf of Vengada Prasad Govindan
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>Hello all,
>  draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd-00.txt was presented by Greg Mirsky at IETF 96
>MPLS WG and is scheduled for presentation at BESS and BFD WG meetings.
>Authors request comments/ suggestions on this draft.
>Thanks
>Prasad
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>A new version of I-D, draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd-00.txt has been
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>Name:		draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd
>Revision:	00
>Title:		Fault Management for EVPN networks
>Document date:	2016-07-06
>Group:		Individual Submission
>Pages:		10
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>https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-gmsm-bess-evpn-bfd-00.txt
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>Abstract:
>   This document proposes a proactive, in-band network OAM mechanism to
>   detect loss of continuity and miss-connection faults that affect
>   unicast and multi-destination paths, used by Broadcast, unknown
>   Unicast and Multicast traffic, in an EVPN network.  The mechanisms
>   proposed in the draft use the principles of the widely adopted
>   Bidirectional Forwarding Detection protocol.
>
>                 =20
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I second the comments made by Greg, Ccing BFD WG since BFD multipoint is
used for failure detection and BGP is being extended to carry BFD
discriminator.

Regards,
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>A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
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>This draft is a work item of the BGP Enabled ServiceS of the IETF.
>
>        Title           : Multicast VPN fast upstream failover
>        Authors         : Thomas Morin
>                          Robert Kebler
>	Filename        : draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover-01.txt
>	Pages           : 18
>	Date            : 2016-07-07
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>Abstract:
>   This document defines multicast VPN extensions and procedures that
>   allow fast failover for upstream failures, by allowing downstream PEs
>   to take into account the status of Provider-Tunnels (P-tunnels) when
>   selecting the upstream PE for a VPN multicast flow, and extending BGP
>   MVPN routing so that a C-multicast route can be advertized toward a
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>The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
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Since BGP may be used to exchange discriminators for EVPN also, would it
make sense to have a sepaarte BESS draft just for BFD discriminator
exchange?

Regards,
Reshad.


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>I second the comments made by Greg, Ccing BFD WG since BFD multipoint is
>used for failure detection and BGP is being extended to carry BFD
>discriminator.
>
>Regards,
>Reshad.
>
>
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><bess-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:
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>>
>>A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>>directories.
>>This draft is a work item of the BGP Enabled ServiceS of the IETF.
>>
>>        Title           : Multicast VPN fast upstream failover
>>        Authors         : Thomas Morin
>>                          Robert Kebler
>>	Filename        : draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover-01.txt
>>	Pages           : 18
>>	Date            : 2016-07-07
>>
>>Abstract:
>>   This document defines multicast VPN extensions and procedures that
>>   allow fast failover for upstream failures, by allowing downstream PEs
>>   to take into account the status of Provider-Tunnels (P-tunnels) when
>>   selecting the upstream PE for a VPN multicast flow, and extending BGP
>>   MVPN routing so that a C-multicast route can be advertized toward a
>>   standby upstream PE.
>>
>>
>>
>>The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
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Hi Reshad,
I absolutely agree and encourage new draft that defines the BGP-BFD Attribu=
te and its relationship with BFD Discriminator TLV in LSP Ping (RFC 5884). =
And another question to the authors of draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover, =
Do you see scenarios where draft-ietf-bfd-multipoint-active-tail can be use=
d?

	Regards,
		Greg

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Subject: Re: [bess] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover-01.txt

Since BGP may be used to exchange discriminators for EVPN also, would it ma=
ke sense to have a sepaarte BESS draft just for BFD discriminator exchange?

Regards,
Reshad.


On 2016-07-21, 2:46 PM, "BESS on behalf of Reshad Rahman (rrahman)"
<bess-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of rrahman@cisco.com> wrote:

>I second the comments made by Greg, Ccing BFD WG since BFD multipoint=20
>is used for failure detection and BGP is being extended to carry BFD=20
>discriminator.
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>Regards,
>Reshad.
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>On 2016-07-07, 10:23 AM, "BESS on behalf of internet-drafts@ietf.org"
><bess-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:
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>>A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts=20
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>>This draft is a work item of the BGP Enabled ServiceS of the IETF.
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>>        Title           : Multicast VPN fast upstream failover
>>        Authors         : Thomas Morin
>>                          Robert Kebler
>>	Filename        : draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover-01.txt
>>	Pages           : 18
>>	Date            : 2016-07-07
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>>Abstract:
>>   This document defines multicast VPN extensions and procedures that
>>   allow fast failover for upstream failures, by allowing downstream PEs
>>   to take into account the status of Provider-Tunnels (P-tunnels) when
>>   selecting the upstream PE for a VPN multicast flow, and extending BGP
>>   MVPN routing so that a C-multicast route can be advertized toward a
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>>The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover/
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>>https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover-01
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>>https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover-0
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Hi Thomas, et. al,
my note is regarding the presentation and the discussion of
draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover.
Minutes state "some discussion on BFD boostraping and suggestion we may
want to have BFD WG aware".
I recall that I've used stronger than "may want" encouragement to bring
BFD-related work to attention of the BFD WG. In fact, I've suggested that
the work on bootstrapping p2mp BFD session belongs in BFD WG. And shortly
after the meeting BFD WG co-chair, Reshad Rahman, concurred with my that
comment on the mailing list.

Regards, Greg

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> https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/96/minutes/minutes-96-bess
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Thomas, et. al,<div>my note is regarding the presentati=
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re-wrap">draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover.</span></div><div><span style=
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Subject: [bess] Last Call: <draft-ietf-bess-ir-03.txt> (Ingress Replication Tunnels in Multicast VPN) to Proposed Standard
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The IESG has received a request from the BGP Enabled ServiceS WG (bess)
to consider the following document:
- 'Ingress Replication Tunnels in Multicast VPN'
  <draft-ietf-bess-ir-03.txt> as Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
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Abstract


   RFCs 6513, 6514, and other RFCs describe procedures by which a
   Service Provider may offer Multicast VPN service to its customers.
   These procedures create point-to-multipoint (P2MP) or multipoint-to-
   multipoint trees across the Service Provider's backbone.  One type of
   P2MP tree that may be used is known as an "Ingress Replication (IR)
   tunnel".  In an IR tunnel, a parent node need not be "directly
   connected" to its child nodes.  When a parent node has to send a
   multicast data packet to its child nodes, it does not use layer 2
   multicast, IP multicast, or MPLS multicast to do so.  Rather, it
   makes n individual copies, and then unicasts each copy, through an IP
   or MPLS unicast tunnel, to exactly one child node.  While the prior
   MVPN specifications allow the use of IR tunnels, those specifications
   are not always very clear or explicit about how the MVPN protocol
   elements and procedures are applied to IR tunnels.  This document
   updates RFCs 6513 and 6514 by adding additional details that are
   specific to the use of IR tunnels.




The file can be obtained via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-ir/

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https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-ir/ballot/


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