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To: "Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Mountain View)" <jorge.rabadan@nokia.com>, "bess@ietf.org" <bess@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [bess] [Mail regarding rfc7432]Could you clarify which IP address we use to construct P2P tunnel for ingress replication.
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Hope we can have a face to face meeting discussing IPSEC related drafts in =
IETF105.
I have hard conflict for Friday July 26.

Can we have the discussion anytime before Friday during IETF105?

Thank you very much.

Linda Dunbar

From: Idr <idr-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Susan Hares
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 2:14 PM
To: idr@ietf.org; bess@ietf.org
Subject: [Idr] Issue 1: IPSEC related drafts

Greetings:

At IETF 104, we consider BGP VPNs supporting asking for TLVS in draft-ietf-=
idr-tunnel-encaps.    After hearing all the discussion, the BESS, IDR and I=
2RS WG chairs discussed what to do with the following

Drafts considered:

  *   draft-sajassi-bess-secure-evpn-01.txt,
  *   draft-hujun-idr-bgp-ipsec-00.txt,
  *   draft-dunbar-idr-sdwan-port-safi-01.txt
relating drafts/ Supporting drafts:

  *   draft-carrell-ipsecme-controller-ike-00.txt
  *   draft-ietf-i2nsf-sdn-ipsec-flow-protection-04.txt
  *   draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps-12.txt
Basic topologies:
                       Ipsec tunnels
     [rtrA] -------------------- [rtrB]
         |     \                           /      |
         |       \ -- RR1 -------/     | ipsec tunnels
         |    / -----| |------\         |
     [rtrC]------------------- [rtrD]


The decision is that

  *   TLVs mechanisms for new TLVS related draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps sho=
uld be moved to drafts with just the mechanisms.
     *   All three mechanisms could be included in the TLVs or portions.
     *   The use case and the SA mechanisms can stay in BESS or IDR (depend=
ing on what is appropriate).
  *   The RTG Chairs are not experts on Security associations, so that we w=
ill try to schedule a unique session at IETF 105 where security experts can=
 help the RTG chairs (BESS, IDR) review the Security association mechanisms=
.
     *   We'd love to have the second co-chair of I2NSF (Yoav NIR) and some=
one from IPSECME.
     *   We'll invite IPSEC experts.
     *   We encourage the authors of the 3 drafts to attend this session in=
 IETF 105 and present their security-association mechanisms.
  *   The NLRI/SAFI in draft-dunbar-idr-sdwan-port-safi is unique and can b=
e requested as IDR or ISE draft.
This email has two request:

  *   WG or authors please send any questions to Susan Hares,
  *   The IDR WG is encouraged to discuss requirements or needs in preparat=
ion for the TLV selection, and
  *   Please help me secure 2 IPSEC experts to attend this session.

Susan Hares


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hope we can have a face to face meeting discussing I=
PSEC related drafts in IETF105.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have hard conflict for Friday July 26.<o:p></o:p><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Can we have the discussion anytime before Friday dur=
ing IETF105?
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thank you very much. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Linda Dunbar<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Idr &lt;idr-bounces@ietf.org&gt; <b>On =
Behalf Of </b>
Susan Hares<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 10, 2019 2:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> idr@ietf.org; bess@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Idr] Issue 1: IPSEC related drafts<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Greetings:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">At IETF 104, we consider BGP VPNs supporting asking =
for TLVS in draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; After hearing a=
ll the discussion, the BESS, IDR and I2RS WG chairs discussed what to do wi=
th the following
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Drafts considered: <o:p></o:p></p>
<ul style=3D"margin-top:0in" type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style=3D"margin-left:0in;mso-add-sp=
ace:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2">
draft-sajassi-bess-secure-evpn-01.txt, <o:p></o:p></li><li class=3D"MsoList=
ParagraphCxSpMiddle" style=3D"margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l=
2 level1 lfo2">
draft-hujun-idr-bgp-ipsec-00.txt,<o:p></o:p></li><li class=3D"MsoListParagr=
aphCxSpLast" style=3D"margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l2 level1=
 lfo2">
draft-dunbar-idr-sdwan-port-safi-01.txt <o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">relating drafts/ Supporting drafts: <o:p></o:p></p>
<ul style=3D"margin-top:0in" type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style=3D"margin-left:0in;mso-add-sp=
ace:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
draft-carrell-ipsecme-controller-ike-00.txt<o:p></o:p></li><li class=3D"Mso=
ListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style=3D"margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-li=
st:l1 level1 lfo4">
draft-ietf-i2nsf-sdn-ipsec-flow-protection-04.txt <o:p></o:p></li><li class=
=3D"MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style=3D"margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;m=
so-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps-12.txt <o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Basic topologies:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp; Ipsec tunnels&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;[rtrA] ---------------=
----- [rtrB]<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; /&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;|&nbsp; <o:p=
></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \ -- RR1 -------/&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp; | ipsec tunnels <o:p>
</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; / -----| |------\&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [rtrC]------------------- [=
rtrD]<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The decision is that <o:p></o:p></p>
<ul style=3D"margin-top:0in" type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style=3D"margin-left:0in;mso-add-sp=
ace:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
TLVs mechanisms for new TLVS related draft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps should be=
 moved to drafts with just the mechanisms.&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></li><ul style=3D"margin-top:0in" type=3D"circle">
<li class=3D"MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style=3D"margin-left:0in;mso-add-s=
pace:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo6">
All three mechanisms could be included in the TLVs or portions.<o:p></o:p><=
/li><li class=3D"MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style=3D"margin-left:0in;mso-a=
dd-space:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo6">
The use case and the SA mechanisms can stay in BESS or IDR (depending on wh=
at is appropriate).
<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<li class=3D"MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style=3D"margin-left:0in;mso-add-s=
pace:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
The RTG Chairs are not experts on Security associations, so that we will tr=
y to schedule a unique session at IETF 105 where security experts can help =
the RTG chairs (BESS, IDR) review the Security association mechanisms.&nbsp=
;
<o:p></o:p></li><ul style=3D"margin-top:0in" type=3D"circle">
<li class=3D"MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style=3D"margin-left:0in;mso-add-s=
pace:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo6">
We&#8217;d love to have the second co-chair of I2NSF (Yoav NIR) and someone=
 from IPSECME.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=3D"MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" styl=
e=3D"margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo6">
We&#8217;ll invite IPSEC experts. <o:p></o:p></li><li class=3D"MsoListParag=
raphCxSpMiddle" style=3D"margin-left:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l0 lev=
el2 lfo6">
We encourage the authors of the 3 drafts to attend this session in IETF 105=
 and present their security-association mechanisms.
<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<li class=3D"MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style=3D"margin-left:0in;mso-add-spa=
ce:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
The NLRI/SAFI in draft-dunbar-idr-sdwan-port-safi is unique and can be requ=
ested as IDR or ISE draft.
<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">This email has two request: <o:p></o:p></p>
<ul style=3D"margin-top:0in" type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style=3D"margin-left:0in;mso-add-sp=
ace:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">
WG or authors please send any questions to Susan Hares, <o:p></o:p></li><li=
 class=3D"MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style=3D"margin-left:0in;mso-add-spac=
e:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">
The IDR WG is encouraged to discuss requirements or needs in preparation fo=
r the TLV selection, and
<o:p></o:p></li><li class=3D"MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style=3D"margin-left=
:0in;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">
Please help me secure 2 IPSEC experts to attend this session. <o:p></o:p></=
li></ul>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Susan Hares <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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On Mon, 1 Jul 2019, Linda Dunbar wrote:

> Hope we can have a face to face meeting discussing IPSEC related drafts in IETF105.
> 
> I have hard conflict for Friday July 26.
> 
> Can we have the discussion anytime before Friday during IETF105?

I'm around all week, so happy to meet up on one of the other days.

Paul


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Me too.  If it doesn=E2=80=99t collide with ACME, I2NSF, LAKE, IPSECME, =
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> On 1 Jul 2019, at 21:14, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote:
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> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019, Linda Dunbar wrote:
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>> Hope we can have a face to face meeting discussing IPSEC related =
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>> Can we have the discussion anytime before Friday during IETF105?
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Yoav and Paul:

IDR Session on Wed (13:30 - 15:30) has no conflicts with I2NSF, BESS, =
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Let me see if we can get all the presentations on that day. =20

Sue Hares=20

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Me too.  If it doesn=E2=80=99t collide with ACME, I2NSF, LAKE, IPSECME, =
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> On 1 Jul 2019, at 21:14, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote:
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> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019, Linda Dunbar wrote:
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> On Jul 1, 2019, at 16:03, Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com> wrote:
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> Yoav and Paul:
>=20
> IDR Session on Wed (13:30 - 15:30) has no conflicts with I2NSF, BESS, IDR,=
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>=20
> Let me see if we can get all the presentations on that day. =20
>=20
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Me too.  If it doesn=E2=80=99t collide with ACME, I2NSF, LAKE, IPSECME, or=
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>> On 1 Jul 2019, at 21:14, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote:
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>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019, Linda Dunbar wrote:
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>>> Hope we can have a face to face meeting discussing IPSEC related drafts i=
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>>> I have hard conflict for Friday July 26.
>>> Can we have the discussion anytime before Friday during IETF105?
>>=20
>> I'm around all week, so happy to meet up on one of the other days.
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>> Paul
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the BGP Enabled ServiceS WG of the IETF.

        Title           : Multicast VPN fast upstream failover
        Authors         : Thomas Morin
                          Robert Kebler
                          Greg Mirsky
	Filename        : draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover-06.txt
	Pages           : 19
	Date            : 2019-07-02

Abstract:
   This document defines multicast VPN extensions and procedures that
   allow fast failover for upstream failures, by allowing downstream PEs
   to take into account the status of Provider-Tunnels (P-tunnels) when
   selecting the upstream PE for a VPN multicast flow, and extending BGP
   MVPN routing so that a C-multicast route can be advertised toward a
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Dear All,
this version includes updates to address comments by Jeffrey and minor
editorial nits.

Dear Jeffrey,
much appreciate your help and looking forward to hearing from you whether
all your comments have been addressed.

Regards,
Greg

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
directories.
This draft is a work item of the BGP Enabled ServiceS WG of the IETF.

        Title           : Multicast VPN fast upstream failover
        Authors         : Thomas Morin
                          Robert Kebler
                          Greg Mirsky
        Filename        : draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover-06.txt
        Pages           : 19
        Date            : 2019-07-02

Abstract:
   This document defines multicast VPN extensions and procedures that
   allow fast failover for upstream failures, by allowing downstream PEs
   to take into account the status of Provider-Tunnels (P-tunnels) when
   selecting the upstream PE for a VPN multicast flow, and extending BGP
   MVPN routing so that a C-multicast route can be advertised toward a
   standby upstream PE.



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>&gt;<br>Cc:  &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bess@ietf.org">bess@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br=
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        Title           : YANG Data Model for MPLS-based L2VPN
        Authors         : Himanshu Shah
                          Patrice Brissette
                          Ing-When Chen
                          Iftekar Hussain
                          Bin Wen
                          Kishore Tiruveedhula
	Filename        : draft-ietf-bess-l2vpn-yang-10.txt
	Pages           : 49
	Date            : 2019-07-02

Abstract:
   This document describes a YANG data model for Layer 2 VPN (L2VPN)
   services over MPLS networks.  These services include point-to-point
   Virtual Private Wire Service (VPWS) and multipoint Virtual Private
   LAN service (VPLS) that uses LDP and BGP signaled Pseudowires.  It is
   expected that this model will be used by the management tools run by
   the network operators in order to manage and monitor the network
   resources that they use to deliver L2VPN services.

   This document also describes the YANG data model for the Pseudowires.
   The independent definition of the Pseudowires facilitates its use in
   Ethernet Segment and EVPN data models defined in separate document.


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This draft is a work item of the BGP Enabled ServiceS WG of the IETF.

        Title           : Propagation of ARP/ND Flags in EVPN
        Authors         : Jorge Rabadan
                          Senthil Sathappan
                          Kiran Nagaraj
                          Wen Lin
	Filename        : draft-ietf-bess-evpn-na-flags-04.txt
	Pages           : 8
	Date            : 2019-07-03

Abstract:
   An EVPN MAC/IP Advertisement route can optionally carry an IPv4 or
   IPv6 addresses associated with a MAC address. Remote PEs can use this
   information to reply locally (act as proxy) to IPv4 ARP requests and
   IPv6 Neighbor Solicitation messages and reduce/suppress the flooding
   produced by the Address Resolution procedure. The information
   conveyed in the MAC/IP route may not be enough for the remote PE to
   reply to local ARP or ND requests. For example, if a PE learns an
   IPv6->MAC ND entry via EVPN, the PE would not know if that particular
   IPv6->MAC pair belongs to a host, a router or a host with an anycast
   address, as this information is not carried in the MAC/IP route
   advertisements. Similarly, other information relevant to the IP->MAC
   ARP/ND entries may be needed. This document defines an extended
   community that is advertised along with an EVPN MAC/IP Advertisement
   route and carries information relevant to the ARP/ND resolution, so
   that an EVPN PE implementing a proxy-ARP/ND function can reply to ARP
   Requests or Neighbor Solicitations with the correct information.




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Hi Bess WG,

We have posted a new version of SRv6 Services document.

Cheers,

Gaurav

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Name:           draft-dawra-bess-srv6-services
Revision:       01
Title:          SRv6 BGP based Overlay services
Document date:  2019-07-03
Group:          Individual Submission
Pages:          28
URL:
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Abstract:
   This draft defines procedures and messages for SRv6-based BGP
   services including L3VPN, EVPN and Internet services.  It builds on
   RFC4364 "BGP/MPLS IP Virtual Private Networks (VPNs)" and RFC7432
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Bess WG,<div><br></div><div>We have posted a new versio=
n of SRv6 Services document.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><d=
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es-01.txt<br>To: Jonn Leddy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:john_leddy@cable.comcast.=
com">john_leddy@cable.comcast.com</a>&gt;, Swadesh Agrawal &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:swaagraw@cisco.com">swaagraw@cisco.com</a>&gt;, Robert Raszuk &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:robert@raszuk.net">robert@raszuk.net</a>&gt;, Dirk Steinberg=
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f=3D"mailto:daniel.voyer@bell.ca">daniel.voyer@bell.ca</a> &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:daniel.voyer@bell.ca">daniel.voyer@bell.ca</a>&gt;, Bruno Decraene &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:bruno.decraene@orange.com">bruno.decraene@orange.com</a=
>&gt;, Jorge Rabadan &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jorge.rabadan@nokia.com">jorge.r=
abadan@nokia.com</a>&gt;, Gaurav Dawra &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gdawra.ietf@gm=
ail.com">gdawra.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt;, Shunwan Zhuang &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:zhuangshunwan@huawei.com">zhuangshunwan@huawei.com</a>&gt;, <a href=3D"ma=
ilto:daniel.bernier@bell.ca">daniel.bernier@bell.ca</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:daniel.bernier@bell.ca">daniel.bernier@bell.ca</a>&gt;, Clarence Filsfil=
s &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cfilsfil@cisco.com">cfilsfil@cisco.com</a>&gt;, Pat=
rice Brissette &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pbrisset@cisco.com">pbrisset@cisco.com=
</a>&gt;, Satoru Matsushima &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:satoru.matsushima@g.softb=
ank.co.jp">satoru.matsushima@g.softbank.co.jp</a>&gt;<br></div><br><br><br>
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Hi Bess WG,

To facilitate the review of latest update - here is some more context.

The new revision addresses all comments received from the WG, including the f=
ollowing.
When Function part of SRv6 SID is unique per NLRI(example EVPN VPWS service)=
, encoding it in SID attribute may introduce some degradation in BGP packing=
 assuming other BGP attributes are shared for set of NLRI=E2=80=99s.

Specifically, in order to address the BGP packing issue, we are proposing th=
e following in the new version:
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Flexibility of advertising Function and Arguments of SRv6 SID in label field=
 of route NLRI. This addresses BGP packing concern when SID is unique per NL=
RI(example EVPN VPWS service), assuming other BGP attributes are shared for s=
et of NLRI=E2=80=99s.
Advertisement of SRv6 SID structure sub-sub tlv in SID attribute. It also pr=
ovides ability to create SRv6 SID when individual fields are available separ=
ately.
These updates are completely backward compatible with previous version.

Gaurav

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 5, 2019, at 12:55 PM, Gaurav Dawra <gdawra.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi Bess WG,
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> We have posted a new version of SRv6 Services document.=20
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> Cheers,
>=20
> Gaurav=20
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> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
> Date: Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 12:55 PM
> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-dawra-bess-srv6-services-01.tx=
t
> To: Jonn Leddy <john_leddy@cable.comcast.com>, Swadesh Agrawal <swaagraw@c=
isco.com>, Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>, Dirk Steinberg <dws@steinberg.=
net>, daniel.voyer@bell.ca <daniel.voyer@bell.ca>, Bruno Decraene <bruno.dec=
raene@orange.com>, Jorge Rabadan <jorge.rabadan@nokia.com>, Gaurav Dawra <gd=
awra.ietf@gmail.com>, Shunwan Zhuang <zhuangshunwan@huawei.com>, daniel.bern=
ier@bell.ca <daniel.bernier@bell.ca>, Clarence Filsfils <cfilsfil@cisco.com>=
, Patrice Brissette <pbrisset@cisco.com>, Satoru Matsushima <satoru.matsushi=
ma@g.softbank.co.jp>
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>=20
>=20
> A new version of I-D, draft-dawra-bess-srv6-services-01.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Gaurav Dawra and posted to the
> IETF repository.
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> Name:           draft-dawra-bess-srv6-services
> Revision:       01
> Title:          SRv6 BGP based Overlay services
> Document date:  2019-07-03
> Group:          Individual Submission
> Pages:          28
> URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-dawra-bess-srv6=
-services-01.txt
> Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dawra-bess-srv6-ser=
vices/
> Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dawra-bess-srv6-services=
-01
> Htmlized:       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-dawra-bess-srv=
6-services
> Diff:           https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-dawra-bess-srv6-=
services-01
>=20
> Abstract:
>    This draft defines procedures and messages for SRv6-based BGP
>    services including L3VPN, EVPN and Internet services.  It builds on
>    RFC4364 "BGP/MPLS IP Virtual Private Networks (VPNs)" and RFC7432
>    "BGP MPLS-Based Ethernet VPN".
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissi=
on
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Hi Bess WG,<div><br></div><div>To facilitat=
e the review of latest update - here is some more context.</div><div><br></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span sty=
le=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The new revision addresses a=
ll comments received from the WG, including the following.<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p><ul type=3D"disc" style=3D"margin-bottom: 0in;"><li class=3D"MsoNormal" s=
tyle=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255=
, 255, 255, 0);">When Function part of SRv6 SID is unique per NLRI(example E=
VPN VPWS service), encoding it in SID attribute may introduce some degradati=
on in BGP packing assuming other BGP attributes are shared for set of NLRI=E2=
=80=99s.</span></li></ul><div><br></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"marg=
in: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0=
);">Specifically, in order to address the BGP packing issue, we are proposin=
g the following in the new version:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in;"><span style=3D"background-colo=
r: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><ul type=3D"disc" st=
yle=3D"margin-bottom: 0in; margin-top: 0in;"><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D=
"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 2=
55, 0);">Flexibility of advertising&nbsp;Function and Arguments of SRv6 SID i=
n label field of route NLRI.&nbsp;This addresses BGP packing concern&nbsp;wh=
en&nbsp;SID is unique per NLRI(example EVPN VPWS service), assuming other BG=
P attributes are shared for set of NLRI=E2=80=99s.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li=
 class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style=3D"back=
ground-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Advertisement&nbsp;of SRv6 SID struct=
ure sub-sub&nbsp;tlv&nbsp;in SID attribute. It also provides ability to crea=
te SRv6 SID when individual fields are available separately.<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></li></ul><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span=
 style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">These updates are compl=
etely backward compatible with previous version.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style=3D"background-color: r=
gba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margi=
n: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0=
);">Gaurav</span></p><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Sent fro=
m my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jul 5, 2019, at 12:55 PM, Gaurav Da=
wra &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gdawra.ietf@gmail.com">gdawra.ietf@gmail.com</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Hi Bess WG,<div><br></div><div>We have posted a new version of SRv6 Se=
rvices document.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div>=
<div>Gaurav&nbsp;<br><div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"lt=
r" class=3D"gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <spa=
n dir=3D"auto">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org">internet-draf=
ts@ietf.org</a>&gt;</span><br>Date: Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 12:55 PM<br>Subject:=
 New Version Notification for draft-dawra-bess-srv6-services-01.txt<br>To: J=
onn Leddy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:john_leddy@cable.comcast.com">john_leddy@cab=
le.comcast.com</a>&gt;, Swadesh Agrawal &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:swaagraw@cisco=
.com">swaagraw@cisco.com</a>&gt;, Robert Raszuk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:robert=
@raszuk.net">robert@raszuk.net</a>&gt;, Dirk Steinberg &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:dws@steinberg.net">dws@steinberg.net</a>&gt;, <a href=3D"mailto:daniel.voye=
r@bell.ca">daniel.voyer@bell.ca</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:daniel.voyer@bell.=
ca">daniel.voyer@bell.ca</a>&gt;, Bruno Decraene &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bruno=
.decraene@orange.com">bruno.decraene@orange.com</a>&gt;, Jorge Rabadan &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:jorge.rabadan@nokia.com">jorge.rabadan@nokia.com</a>&gt;, G=
aurav Dawra &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gdawra.ietf@gmail.com">gdawra.ietf@gmail.c=
om</a>&gt;, Shunwan Zhuang &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:zhuangshunwan@huawei.com">z=
huangshunwan@huawei.com</a>&gt;, <a href=3D"mailto:daniel.bernier@bell.ca">d=
aniel.bernier@bell.ca</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:daniel.bernier@bell.ca">dani=
el.bernier@bell.ca</a>&gt;, Clarence Filsfils &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cfilsfil=
@cisco.com">cfilsfil@cisco.com</a>&gt;, Patrice Brissette &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:pbrisset@cisco.com">pbrisset@cisco.com</a>&gt;, Satoru Matsushima &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:satoru.matsushima@g.softbank.co.jp">satoru.matsushima@g.soft=
bank.co.jp</a>&gt;<br></div><br><br><br>
A new version of I-D, draft-dawra-bess-srv6-services-01.txt<br>
has been successfully submitted by Gaurav Dawra and posted to the<br>
IETF repository.<br>
<br>
Name:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;draft-dawra-bess-srv6-services=
<br>
Revision:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;01<br>
Title:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; SRv6 BGP based Overlay services<br>=

Document date:&nbsp; 2019-07-03<br>
Group:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Individual Submission<br>
Pages:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 28<br>
URL:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <a href=3D"https://www.ietf.or=
g/internet-drafts/draft-dawra-bess-srv6-services-01.txt" rel=3D"noreferrer" t=
arget=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-dawra-bess-srv6-=
services-01.txt</a><br>
Status:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf=
.org/doc/draft-dawra-bess-srv6-services/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blan=
k">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dawra-bess-srv6-services/</a><br>
Htmlized:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/d=
raft-dawra-bess-srv6-services-01" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https=
://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dawra-bess-srv6-services-01</a><br>
Htmlized:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/=
doc/html/draft-dawra-bess-srv6-services" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank=
">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-dawra-bess-srv6-services</a><b=
r>
Diff:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<a href=3D"https://www.ietf.or=
g/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-dawra-bess-srv6-services-01" rel=3D"noreferrer" targe=
t=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-dawra-bess-srv6-servi=
ces-01</a><br>
<br>
Abstract:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;This draft defines procedures and messages for SRv6-based BGP<b=
r>
&nbsp; &nbsp;services including L3VPN, EVPN and Internet services.&nbsp; It b=
uilds on<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;RFC4364 "BGP/MPLS IP Virtual Private Networks (VPNs)" and RFC74=
32<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;"BGP MPLS-Based Ethernet VPN".<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the BGP Enabled ServiceS WG of the IETF.

        Title           : Operational Aspects of Proxy-ARP/ND in EVPN Networks
        Authors         : Jorge Rabadan
                          Senthil Sathappan
                          Kiran Nagaraj
                          Greg Hankins
                          Thomas King
	Filename        : draft-ietf-bess-evpn-proxy-arp-nd-07.txt
	Pages           : 23
	Date            : 2019-07-08

Abstract:
   The EVPN MAC/IP Advertisement route can optionally carry IPv4 and
   IPv6 addresses associated with a MAC address. Remote PEs can use this
   information to reply locally (act as proxy) to IPv4 ARP requests and
   IPv6 Neighbor Solicitation messages (or 'unicast-forward' them to the
   owner of the MAC) and reduce/suppress the flooding produced by the
   Address Resolution procedure. This EVPN capability is extremely
   useful in Internet Exchange Points (IXPs) and Data Centers (DCs) with
   large broadcast domains, where the amount of ARP/ND flooded traffic
   causes issues on routers and CEs. This document describes how the
   EVPN Proxy-ARP/ND function may be implemented to help IXPs and other
   operators deal with the issues derived from Address Resolution in
   large broadcast domains.



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Hi

Thanks the authors to introduce this very useful, very clear draft.
I do think it deserves very much the adoption by the WG as an solution opti=
on.

Here are some minor comments after I read the latest draft (which I think d=
oes not affect the adoption):

6.  Solution Overview
   This section describes a multicast VPN solution based on [RFC6513]
   and [RFC6514] for EVPN PEs operating in IRB mode that want to perform
   seamless interoperability with their counterparts MVPN PEs.
[XJR] with or without their counterparts MVPN PEs (since this document cove=
rs both).


   EVPN-PEs advertise unicast routes as host routes using EVPN route
   type 2 for sources that are directly attached to a tenant BD that has
   been extended in the EVPN fabric. EVPN-PE may summarize sources (IP
   networks) behind a router that are attached to EVPN-PE or sources
   that are connected to a BD, which is not extended across EVPN fabric
   and advertises those routes with EVPN route type 5. EVPN host-routes
   are advertised as IPVPN host-routes to MVPN-PEs only incase of
   seamless interop mode.
[XJR] Editorial error. Incase of -> in case of


   In gateway model, EVPN-PE advertises unicast routes as IPVPN routes
   along with VRI extended community for all multicast sources attached
   behind EVPN-PEs. All IPVPN routes SHOULD be summarized while
   adverting to MVPN-PEs.
[XJR] VRI is used before its definition ---- VRF Route Import(6514) or IPv6=
 VRF Route Import(rfc6515) in my opinion.


   VRI is constructed as following:
      -  The 4-octet Global Administrator field MUST be set to an IP
         address of the PE.  This address SHOULD be common for all the
         IP-VRFs on the PE (e.g., this address may be the PE's loopback
         address or VTEP address).
      -  The 2-octet Local Administrator field associated with a given
         IP-VRF contains a number that uniquely identifies that IP-VRF
         within the PE that contains the IP-VRF.
[XJR] Does this document want to cover Underlay IPv6 network (described in =
RFC6515) ? If it does(I guess), then the VRI can be IPv6 VRF Route Import a=
s pointed above, and the Global Administrator can be a 16-octet field.


   EVPN PE MUST have Route Target Extended Community to import/export
   MVPN routes. In data center environment, it is desirable to have this
   RT configured using auto-generated method than static configuration.
[XJR] is it a new specification for EVPN PE to have RT Extended Community ?=
 if it does not, then MUST word is unnecessary.


   The following is one recommended model to auto-generate MVPN RT:
      - The Global Administrator field of the MVPN RT MAY be set
        to BGP AS Number.
      - The Local Administrator field of the MVPN RT MAY be set to
        the VNI associated with the tenant VRF.
[XJR] It's very helpful to have a method to auto-generate RT. Should this c=
ase be pointed out to help decision of using this method or not : the VNI i=
s 24bit, and the Local Administrator is 16bit ?


9.2.3.  Other Encapsulation
   In order to signal a different tunneling encapsulation such as NVGRE,
  GPE, or GENEVE the corresponding BGP encapsulation extended community
   [TUNNEL-ENCAP] SHOULD be appended to the MVPN I-PMSI and S-PMSI A-D
   routes. If the Tunnel Type field in the encapsulation extended-
   community is set to a type which requires Virtual Network Identifier
   (VNI), e.g., VXLAN-GPE or NVGRE [TUNNEL-ENCAP], then the MPLS label
   in the PMSI Tunnel Attribute MUST be the VNI associated with the
   customer MVPN. Same as in VXLAN case, a gateway is needed for inter-
   operation between the EVPN-IRB PEs and non-EVPN MVPN PEs.
[XJR] I suggest remove the over-thought about various Encapsulation, we hav=
e seen different BGP attribute other than the TUNNEL-ENCAP attribute in htt=
ps://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-geng-bier-ipv6-inter-domain/
Hope you have a look at that one, and see if this kind of BIERv6 tunnel be =
useful for some scenario this document want to solve ---- to have a non-seg=
mented P2MP tunnel from TOR in SPDC to BNGs outside of the SPDC.
Welcome your comments as well.


Thanks
Jingrong


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Hi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks the authors to introduce=
 this very useful, very clear draft.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I do think it deserves very muc=
h the adoption by the WG as an solution option.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Here are some minor comments af=
ter I read the latest draft (which I think does not affect the adoption):<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">6.&nbsp; Solution Overview<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; This section descr=
ibes a multicast VPN solution based on [RFC6513]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; and [RFC6514] for =
EVPN PEs operating in IRB mode that want to perform<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; seamless interoper=
ability with their counterparts MVPN PEs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">[XJR] with or without their cou=
nterparts MVPN PEs (since this document covers both).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; EVPN-PEs advertise=
 unicast routes as host routes using EVPN route<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; type 2 for sources=
 that are directly attached to a tenant BD that has<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; been extended in t=
he EVPN fabric. EVPN-PE may summarize sources (IP<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; networks) behind a=
 router that are attached to EVPN-PE or sources<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; that are connected=
 to a BD, which is not extended across EVPN fabric<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; and advertises tho=
se routes with EVPN route type 5. EVPN host-routes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; are advertised as =
IPVPN host-routes to MVPN-PEs only incase of<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; seamless interop m=
ode.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">[XJR] Editorial error. Incase o=
f -&gt; in case of<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; In gateway model, =
EVPN-PE advertises unicast routes as IPVPN routes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; along with VRI ext=
ended community for all multicast sources attached&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; behind EVPN-PEs. A=
ll IPVPN routes SHOULD be summarized while<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; adverting to MVPN-=
PEs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">[XJR] VRI is used before its de=
finition ---- VRF Route Import(6514) or IPv6 VRF Route Import(rfc6515) in m=
y opinion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; VRI is constructed=
 as following:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
-&nbsp; The 4-octet Global Administrator field MUST be set to an IP&nbsp;<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;address of the PE.&nbsp; This address SHOULD be common fo=
r all the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; IP-VRFs on the PE (e.g., this address may be the PE's loo=
pback<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; address or VTEP address).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
-&nbsp; The 2-octet Local Administrator field associated with a given<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; IP-VRF contains a number that uniquely identifies that IP=
-VRF<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; within the PE that contains the IP-VRF.<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">[XJR] Does this document want t=
o cover Underlay IPv6 network (described in RFC6515) ? If it does(I guess),=
 then the VRI can be IPv6 VRF Route Import as pointed above, and the Global=
 Administrator can be a 16-octet field.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; EVPN PE MUST have =
Route Target Extended Community to import/export&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; MVPN routes. In da=
ta center environment, it is desirable to have this<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; RT configured usin=
g auto-generated method than static configuration.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">[XJR] is it a new specification=
 for EVPN PE to have RT Extended Community ? if it does not, then MUST word=
 is unnecessary.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; The following is o=
ne recommended model to auto-generate MVPN RT:&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
- The Global Administrator field of the MVPN RT MAY be set
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;to BGP AS Number.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
- The Local Administrator field of the MVPN RT MAY be set to<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp; the VNI associated with the tenant VRF.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">[XJR] It&#8217;s very helpful t=
o have a method to auto-generate RT. Should this case be pointed out to hel=
p decision of using this method or not : the VNI is 24bit, and the Local Ad=
ministrator is 16bit ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">9.2.3.&nbsp; Other Encapsulatio=
n<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; In order to signal=
 a different tunneling encapsulation such as NVGRE,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;GPE, or GENEVE the =
corresponding BGP encapsulation extended community<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; [TUNNEL-ENCAP] SHO=
ULD be appended to the MVPN I-PMSI and S-PMSI A-D<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; routes. If the Tun=
nel Type field in the encapsulation extended-<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; community is set t=
o a type which requires Virtual Network Identifier<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; (VNI), e.g., VXLAN=
-GPE or NVGRE [TUNNEL-ENCAP], then the MPLS label<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; in the PMSI Tunnel=
 Attribute MUST be the VNI associated with the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; customer MVPN. Sam=
e as in VXLAN case, a gateway is needed for inter-<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; operation between =
the EVPN-IRB PEs and non-EVPN MVPN PEs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">[XJR] I suggest remove the over=
-thought about various Encapsulation, we have seen different BGP attribute =
other than the TUNNEL-ENCAP attribute in
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-geng-bier-ipv6-inter-doma=
in/">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-geng-bier-ipv6-inter-domain/</a=
><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Hope you have a look at that on=
e, and see if this kind of BIERv6 tunnel be useful for some scenario this d=
ocument want to solve ---- to have a non-segmented P2MP tunnel from TOR in =
SPDC to BNGs outside of the SPDC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Welcome your comments as well.<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Jingrong<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the BGP Enabled ServiceS WG of the IETF.

        Title           : Operational Aspects of Proxy-ARP/ND in EVPN Networks
        Authors         : Jorge Rabadan
                          Senthil Sathappan
                          Kiran Nagaraj
                          Greg Hankins
                          Thomas King
	Filename        : draft-ietf-bess-evpn-proxy-arp-nd-08.txt
	Pages           : 23
	Date            : 2019-07-08

Abstract:
   The EVPN MAC/IP Advertisement route can optionally carry IPv4 and
   IPv6 addresses associated with a MAC address. Remote PEs can use this
   information to reply locally (act as proxy) to IPv4 ARP requests and
   IPv6 Neighbor Solicitation messages (or 'unicast-forward' them to the
   owner of the MAC) and reduce/suppress the flooding produced by the
   Address Resolution procedure. This EVPN capability is extremely
   useful in Internet Exchange Points (IXPs) and Data Centers (DCs) with
   large broadcast domains, where the amount of ARP/ND flooded traffic
   causes issues on routers and CEs. This document describes how the
   EVPN Proxy-ARP/ND function may be implemented to help IXPs and other
   operators deal with the issues derived from Address Resolution in
   large broadcast domains.



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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the BGP Enabled ServiceS WG of the IETF.

        Title           : EVPN Operations, Administration and Maintenance Requirements and Framework
        Authors         : Samer Salam
                          Ali Sajassi
                          Sam Aldrin
                          John E. Drake
                          Donald E. Eastlake
	Filename        : draft-ietf-bess-evpn-oam-req-frmwk-01.txt
	Pages           : 19
	Date            : 2019-07-08

Abstract:
   This document specifies the requirements and reference framework for
   Ethernet VPN (EVPN) Operations, Administration and Maintenance (OAM).
   The requirements cover the OAM aspects of EVPN and PBB-EVPN.  The
   framework defines the layered OAM model encompassing the EVPN service
   layer, network layer and underlying Packet Switched Network (PSN)
   transport layer.



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This draft has been revised to correctly show my affiliation. No other
changes made.

Thanks,
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On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 3:05 PM <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:
>
>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> This draft is a work item of the BGP Enabled ServiceS WG of the IETF.
>
>         Title           : EVPN Operations, Administration and Maintenance Requirements and Framework
>         Authors         : Samer Salam
>                           Ali Sajassi
>                           Sam Aldrin
>                           John E. Drake
>                           Donald E. Eastlake
>         Filename        : draft-ietf-bess-evpn-oam-req-frmwk-01.txt
>         Pages           : 19
>         Date            : 2019-07-08
>
> Abstract:
>    This document specifies the requirements and reference framework for
>    Ethernet VPN (EVPN) Operations, Administration and Maintenance (OAM).
>    The requirements cover the OAM aspects of EVPN and PBB-EVPN.  The
>    framework defines the layered OAM model encompassing the EVPN service
>    layer, network layer and underlying Packet Switched Network (PSN)
>    transport layer.
>
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-oam-req-frmwk/
>
> There are also htmlized versions available at:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-oam-req-frmwk-01
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-oam-req-frmwk-01
>
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-bess-evpn-oam-req-frmwk-01
>
>
> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
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Hi Jingrong,
I have updated -02 version to fix a typo and some minor nits. Rest of
comments are addressed in the latest version as mentioned by Swadesh as
well.
Cheers,
Gaurav


On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 1:47 PM Swadesh Agrawal (swaagraw) <
swaagraw@cisco.com> wrote:

> Hi Jingrong
>
>
>
> Thanks for reviewing and comments. Please see my response inline starting
> with [SA] .
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Swadesh
>
>
>
> *From: *BESS <bess-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Xiejingrong <
> xiejingrong@huawei.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 7:51 PM
> *To: *"draft-dawra-bess-srv6-services@ietf.org" <
> draft-dawra-bess-srv6-services@ietf.org>, "bess@ietf.org" <bess@ietf.org>
> *Subject: *[bess] Comments on <draft-dawra-bess-srv6-services-00>
>
>
>
> Hi
>
> I have read this documents several times.
>
> I think it is useful and stable to advance as a solution of L3VPN/EVPN
> service over IPv6 networks.
>
> Here are some minor comments:
>
>
>
>    SRv6 Service SID refers to an SRv6 SID that MAY be associated with
>
>    one of the service specific behavior on the advertising Provider
>
>    Edge(PE) router, such as (but not limited to), in the case of L3VPN
>
>    service, END.DT (Table lookup in a VRF) or END.DX (crossconnect to a
>
>    nexthop) functions
>
> [xjr] what are the things =E2=80=9Cbut not limited to=E2=80=9D ? Please s=
pecify explicitly
> or delete the words in this paragraph and other places.
>
> [SA] In future, new behaviors could be defined on Egress PE extension to
> network programming. So we don=E2=80=99t want to restrict behaviors.
>
>
>
>    To provide SRv6 service with best-effort connectivity, the egress PE
>
>    signals an SRv6 Service SID with the BGP overlay service route.  The
>
>    ingress PE encapsulates the payload in an outer IPv6 header where the
>
>    destination address is the SRv6 Service SID provided by the egress
>
>    PE.  The underlay between the PEs only need to support plain IPv6
>
>    forwarding [RFC2460].
>
> [xjr]=E2=80=9Cwith best-effort connectivity=E2=80=9D is not clear to me.
>
> [SA] Based on IGP shortest path reachability.
>
> [xjr] I suggest a section can be added to say about =E2=80=9Cnot using co=
lor and
> SRH=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Cusing color and SRH=E2=80=9D for easy-deployment a=
nd for path-optimization
> respectively.
>
> [SA] hopefully above response clarifies.
>
> [xjr] s/RFC2460/RFC8200/g
>
> [SA] Ack.
>
>
>
>    To provide SRv6 service in conjunction with an underlay SLA from the
>
>    ingress PE to the egress PE, the egress PE colors the overlay service
>
>    route with a Color extended
>
>    community[I-D.ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy].  The ingress PE
>
>    encapsulates the payload packet in an outer IPv6 header with an SRH
>
>    that contains the SR policy associated with the related SLA followed
>
>    by the SRv6 Service SID associated with the route.  The underlay
>
>    nodes whose SRv6 SID's are part of the SRH must support SRv6 data
>
>    plane.
>
> [xjr] see above suggestion.
>
>
>
> SRv6 Service Sub-TLV Type (1 octet): This field is set to 1 to
>
>       represent SRv6 SID Informaton Sub-TLV.
>
> [xjr] s/Informaton/information/g
>
> [SA] fixed in new version.
>
>
>
>    Egress PEs which supports SRv6 based L3 services advertises overlay
>
>    service prefixes along with a Service SID enclosed in a SRv6 L3
>
>    Service TLV within the BGP SID attribute.  This TLV serves two
>
>    purposes - first, it indicates that the egress PE is reachable via an
>
>    SRv6 underlay and the BGP ingress PE receiving this route MAY choose
>
>    to encapsulate or insert an SRv6 SRH; second ,it indicates the value
>
>    of the SID to include in the SRH encapsulation.
>
> [xjr] The two purposes I can see, the indication of the reachability to
> this PE, and the indication of a specific Service this SRv6 SID bound to.
>
> [xjr] Use of SRH or not is determined by Color Extended Community, or mor=
e
> precisely, the SR-policy installed on Ingress Node, not this TLV.
>
> [SA] Please refer to updated version which hopefully clarifies this
> comment. Further there is a typing error in new version. Last line of
> paragraph will be modified to below is next version.
>
>
>
> =E2=80=9Csecond ,it indicates the value of the Service SID to be used in =
the
> encapsulation.=E2=80=9D
>
>
>
> 4.6.  EVPN multicast routes (Route Types 6, 7, 8) over SRv6 core
>
>    These routes do not require the advertisement of SRv6 Service TLVs
>
>    along with them.  Similar to EVPN Route Type 4, the BGP Nexthop is
>
>    equal to the IPv6 address of egress PE.  More details may be added in
>
>    future revisions of this document.
>
> [xjr] is this determined that No SRv6 Service TLVs required ? the documen=
t
> <draft-xie-bier-ipv6-mvpn> had seen the use of SRv6 Service TLV in
> multicast VPN.
>
> [xjr] Suggest to say simply this is outside of this document, which I
> think covers unicast service only, and helpful to advance.
>
> [SA] This is specific to EVPN RT 6,7,8 and not MVPN (RT 6 and 7). This ma=
y
> be updated in future version of document based on future analysis.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Jingrong
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Jingrong,<div>I have updated -02 version to fix a typo =
and some minor nits. Rest of comments are addressed in the latest version a=
s mentioned by Swadesh as well.</div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Gaurav</div><di=
v><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"=
gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 1:47 PM Swadesh Agrawal (swaagraw) &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:swaagraw@cisco.com" target=3D"_blank">swaagraw@cisco.com</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">





<div lang=3D"EN-US">
<div class=3D"gmail-m_-5476704916532482324gmail-m_-5453546405016899069gmail=
-m_4674221880645977869WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">Hi </span>Jingrong<u>=
</u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">Thanks for reviewing =
and comments. Please see my response inline starting with [SA] .<u></u><u><=
/u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">Regards<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">Swadesh<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/span></p>
<div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-=
top:1pt solid rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black">From: =
</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black">BESS &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:bess-bounces@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">bess-bounces@ietf.org</a>&gt=
; on behalf of Xiejingrong &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:xiejingrong@huawei.com" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">xiejingrong@huawei.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 7:51 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>&quot;<a href=3D"mailto:draft-dawra-bess-srv6-services@ietf.org"=
 target=3D"_blank">draft-dawra-bess-srv6-services@ietf.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:draft-dawra-bess-srv6-services@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">=
draft-dawra-bess-srv6-services@ietf.org</a>&gt;, &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:be=
ss@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">bess@ietf.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:bess@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">bess@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>[bess] Comments on &lt;draft-dawra-bess-srv6-services-00&gt=
;<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/span></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have read this documents several times. <u></u><u>=
</u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I think it is useful and stable to advance as a solu=
tion of L3VPN/EVPN service over IPv6 networks.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Here are some minor comments:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:navy">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 SRv6 Service SID refers to an SRv6 SID that MAY be associated with=
=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:navy">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 one of the service specific behavior on the advertising Provider</sp=
an><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:navy">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 Edge(PE) router, such as (but not limited to), in the case of L3VPN<=
/span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:navy">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 service, END.DT (Table lookup in a VRF) or END.DX (crossconnect to a
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Cour=
ier New&quot;;color:navy">=C2=A0=C2=A0 nexthop) functions</span><u></u><u><=
/u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[xjr] what are the things =E2=80=9Cbut not limited t=
o=E2=80=9D ? Please specify explicitly or delete the words in this paragrap=
h and other places.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;color:rgb(112,48,160)"=
>[SA] In future, new behaviors could be defined on Egress PE extension to n=
etwork programming. So we don=E2=80=99t want to restrict behaviors.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:navy">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 To provide SRv6 service with best-effort connectivity, the egress PE
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:navy">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 signals an SRv6 Service SID with the BGP overlay service route.=C2=
=A0 The</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:navy">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 ingress PE encapsulates the payload in an outer IPv6 header where th=
e</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:navy">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 destination address is the SRv6 Service SID provided by the egress</=
span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:navy">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 PE.=C2=A0 The underlay between the PEs only need to support plain IP=
v6</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:navy">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 forwarding [RFC2460].</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[xjr]=E2=80=9Cwith best-effort connectivity=E2=80=9D=
 is not clear to me.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;color:rgb(112,48,160)"=
>[SA] Based on IGP shortest path reachability.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[xjr] I suggest a section can be added to say about =
=E2=80=9Cnot using color and SRH=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Cusing color and SRH=E2=
=80=9D for easy-deployment and for path-optimization respectively.<u></u><u=
></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;color:rgb(112,48,160)"=
>[SA] hopefully above response clarifies.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[xjr] s/RFC2460/RFC8200/g<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;color:rgb(112,48,160)"=
>[SA] Ack.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:navy">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 To provide SRv6 service in conjunction with an underlay SLA from the
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:navy">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0ingress PE to the egress PE, the egress PE colors the overlay s=
ervice</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:navy">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 route with a Color extended</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:navy">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 community[I-D.ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy].=C2=A0 The ingress=
 PE</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:navy">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 encapsulates the payload packet in an outer IPv6 header with an SRH<=
/span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:navy">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 that contains the SR policy associated with the related SLA followed=
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:navy">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 by the SRv6 Service SID associated with the route.=C2=A0 The underla=
y</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:navy">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 nodes whose SRv6 SID&#39;s are part of the SRH must support SRv6 dat=
a</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:navy">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 plane.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[xjr] see above suggestion.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left;text-indent:=
38.5pt">
<span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:nav=
y">SRv6 Service Sub-TLV Type (1 octet): This field is set to 1 to</span><u>=
</u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Cour=
ier New&quot;;color:navy">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 represent SRv6 SID=
 Informaton Sub-TLV.=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[xjr] s/Informaton/information/g<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;color:rgb(112,48,160)"=
>[SA] fixed in new version.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:navy">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 Egress PEs which supports SRv6 based L3 services advertises overlay<=
/span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:navy">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 service prefixes along with a Service SID enclosed in a SRv6 L3</spa=
n><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:navy">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 Service TLV within the BGP SID attribute.=C2=A0 This TLV serves two=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:navy">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 purposes - first, it indicates that the egress PE is reachable via a=
n=C2=A0
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:navy">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0SRv6 underlay and the BGP ingress PE receiving this route MAY c=
hoose=C2=A0=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:navy">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 to encapsulate or insert an SRv6 SRH;
</span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;co=
lor:red">second ,it indicates the value</span><span style=3D"color:red"><u>=
</u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:red">=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 of the SID to include in the SRH encapsulation.</span><u></u><u></u></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[xjr] The two purposes I can see, the indication of =
the reachability to this PE, and the indication of a specific Service this =
SRv6 SID bound to.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[xjr] Use of SRH or not is determined by Color Exten=
ded Community, or more precisely, the SR-policy installed on Ingress Node, =
not this TLV.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;color:rgb(112,48,160)"=
>[SA] Please refer to updated version which hopefully clarifies this commen=
t. Further there is a typing error in new version. Last line of paragraph w=
ill be modified to below is next version.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;color:rgb(112,48,160)"=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;color:rgb(112,48,160)"=
>=E2=80=9Csecond ,it indicates the value of the Service SID to be used in t=
he encapsulation.=E2=80=9D<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:navy">4.6.=C2=A0 EVPN multica=
st routes (Route Types 6, 7, 8) over SRv6 core</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:navy">=C2=A0=C2=A0 These rout=
es do not require the advertisement of SRv6 Service TLVs</span><u></u><u></=
u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:navy">=C2=A0=C2=A0 along with=
 them.=C2=A0 Similar to EVPN Route Type 4, the BGP Nexthop is</span><u></u>=
<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:navy">=C2=A0=C2=A0 equal to t=
he IPv6 address of egress PE.=C2=A0 More details may be added in</span><u><=
/u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;c=
olor:navy">=C2=A0=C2=A0 future revisions of this document.</span><u></u><u>=
</u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[xjr] is this determined that No SRv6 Service TLVs r=
equired ? the document &lt;draft-xie-bier-ipv6-mvpn&gt; had seen the use of=
 SRv6 Service TLV in multicast VPN.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">[xjr] Suggest to say simply this is outside of this =
document, which I think covers unicast service only, and helpful to advance=
.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;color:rgb(112,48,160)"=
>[SA] This is specific to EVPN RT 6,7,8 and not MVPN (RT 6 and 7). This may=
 be updated in future version of document based on future analysis.<u></u><=
u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jingrong<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>

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Hi WG,

Sorry for the late feedback on this one.
This WGLC is closed and there is no objection to progress. In addition, we =
have implementations.
I note that Ali has to update the document and this will be part of the nex=
t revision. However this does not prevent to go to the next step.

Brgds,

From: BESS [mailto:bess-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of stephane.litkowski@o=
range.com
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 10:53
To: bess@ietf.org
Cc: bess-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: [bess] WGLC, IPR and implementation poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-=
igmp-mld-proxy


Hello Working Group,



This email starts a three weeks Working Group Last Call on  draft-ietf-bess=
-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy [1].



This poll runs until *the 28th of June*.



We are also polling for knowledge of any undisclosed IPR that applies to th=
is Document, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF =
IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

If you are listed as an Author or a Contributor of this Document please res=
pond to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any relevan=
t undisclosed IPR. The Document won't progress without answers from all the=
 Authors and Contributors.



We have several IPRs already disclosed.



If you are not listed as an Author or a Contributor, then please explicitly=
 respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed i=
n conformance with IETF rules.



We are also polling for any existing implementation as per [2].



    Thank you,

    Stephane & Matthew


    [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-prox=
y/

    [2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/cG3X1tTqb_vPC4rg56SEdkjq=
Dpw



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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Hi WG,<o:p></o:p></spa=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Sorry for the late fee=
dback on this one.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">This WGLC is closed an=
d there is no objection to progress. In addition, we have implementations.<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">I note that Ali has to=
 update the document and this will be part of the next revision. However th=
is does not prevent to go to the next step.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Brgds,<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> BESS [ma=
ilto:bess-bounces@ietf.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>stephane.litkowski@orange.com<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 17, 2019 10:53<br>
<b>To:</b> bess@ietf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> bess-chairs@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [bess] WGLC, IPR and implementation poll for draft-ietf-bes=
s-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Hello Working Group,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">This email starts a three weeks Working Group Las=
t Call on &nbsp;draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy [1].
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">This poll runs until *the 28th of June*.<o:p></o:=
p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">We are also polling for knowledge of any undisclo=
sed IPR that applies to this Document, to ensure that IPR has been disclose=
d in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for=
 more details).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">If you are listed as an Author or a Contributor o=
f this Document please respond to this email and indicate whether or not yo=
u are aware of any relevant undisclosed IPR. The Document won't progress wi=
thout answers from all the Authors
 and Contributors.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">We have several IPRs already disclosed.<o:p></o:p=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">If you are not listed as an Author or a Contribut=
or, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that ha=
s not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">We are also polling for any existing implementati=
on as per [2].
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Thank you,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Stephane &amp; Matthew<o:p></o=
:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;[1] <a href=3D"https://datat=
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https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-igmp-mld-proxy/</a><o=
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hive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/cG3X1tTqb_vPC4rg56SEdkjqDpw">
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/cG3X1tTqb_vPC4rg56SEdkjqDpw</a><=
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Dear Authors,

I have reviewed this version. And I have the following comment:

# L2VPN base mode has already defined AC and PW two common attributes, redu=
ndancy-grp is introduced as combination of AC attribute and PW attribute, n=
ot sure the redundancy-grp is a common attribute for L2VPN.
I would like to argue why not define redundancy-group in the extension mode=
l or in a separate draft.

# I see pseudowires in ietf-pseudowires have already defined common attribu=
tes such as MTU, cw-negotiation and tunnel-policy, template within pseudowi=
res reference pw-template and pw-template also defines duplicated common at=
tribute such as MTU, cw-negotiation and tunnel-policy.
So I think template parameter and pw-template should be removed.

# Not sure group-id ,icb, generalized are common attribute for configured-p=
w case. Suggest to simplify configured-pw attributes and keep the minimum s=
et of attributes common to all vendor's implementation.

# The definition of discover-type and signaling-type are very similar. What=
 are their differences? Can we keep only one?

# vpws-constraints is an empty container, it seems just like a placeholder,=
 suggest to delete it.

# Pbb is an ieee802.1 specific technology, suggest to remove it from base m=
odel and move it to technology specific model.

Best Regards!
-Michael

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Dear Authors, <o:p></o:p></span=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I have reviewed this version. A=
nd I have the following comment:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"># L2VPN base mode has already d=
efined AC and PW two common attributes, redundancy-grp is introduced as com=
bination of AC attribute and PW attribute, not sure the redundancy-grp is a=
 common attribute for L2VPN.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I would like to argue why not d=
efine redundancy-group in the extension model or in a separate draft.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"># I see pseudowires in ietf-pse=
udowires have already defined common attributes such as MTU, cw-negotiation=
 and tunnel-policy, template within pseudowires reference pw-template and p=
w-template also defines duplicated common
 attribute such as MTU, cw-negotiation and tunnel-policy. <o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">So I think template parameter a=
nd pw-template should be removed.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"># Not sure group-id ,icb, gener=
alized are common attribute for configured-pw case. Suggest to simplify con=
figured-pw attributes and keep the minimum set of attributes common to all =
vendor&#8217;s implementation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"># The definition of discover-ty=
pe and signaling-type are very similar. What are their differences? Can we =
keep only one?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"># vpws-constraints is an empty =
container, it seems just like a placeholder, suggest to delete it.<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"># Pbb is an ieee802.1 specific =
technology, suggest to remove it from base model and move it to technology =
specific model.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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Dear Authors,

I have reviewed the draft-ietf-bess-l3vpn-yang-04. And I have the following=
 comment:
# First of all, this draft has expired, and L3VPN YANG is a very useful mod=
el, so please update it as soon as possible.
And for the YANG model,
# Is it necessary to define two branches to distinguish IPv4 and IPv6? Why =
not define a type to distinguish the IPv4 and IPv6?
# Why does the export-to-global not refers to routing-policy?
# Is it necessary to configure routing-table-limit both in network-instance=
 and bgp:ipv4-unicast?
# Why the instance attribute within import-from-global does not use the lea=
fref to refer to network-instance?

Best Regards!
-Michael



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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I have reviewed the draft-ietf-=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"># Is it necessary to define two=
 branches to distinguish IPv4 and IPv6? Why not define a type to distinguis=
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# Why does the export-to-global not refers to routing-policy? <br>
# Is it necessary to configure routing-table-limit both in network-instance=
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Hi, WG:

I have read the latest version of draft-ietf-bess-evpn-yang and have a few
quick comments:

# Evpn instance augments the "l2vpn:l2vpn". It seems to make a lot of sense,
However how many attributes defined in L2VPN Yang can be used by EVPN? In
addition, RT and RD are redefined in evpn-instance. Do they overwrite the RT
& RD defined in L2VPN YANG?

# vpls-constraints is an empty container, it seems like a placeholder.

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Hi WG,

To followup on this item, we have scheduled an open mic slot during our fir=
st session on Tuesday to discuss this topic and see if there is an action p=
lan to trigger.
I'll prepare few slides to start the discussion.

See you in Montreal and have good travel.

Stephane


From: stephane.litkowski@orange.com [mailto:stephane.litkowski@orange.com]
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2019 10:40
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Subject: Discussion on various NH encoding

Hi WG,

(Speaking as co-chair)

The current discussion on the NH encodings in our AFI/SAFIs requires some p=
articular attention.
We would like to take the opportunity of the next IETF to discuss the subje=
ct face to face.

In the meantime, we are looking for few volunteers who will:

-          Do an inventory of what do we have in our specifications: which =
AFI/SAFI, which NH encoding rules

-          Identify inconsistencies (if any) or assess if it hurts or not (=
theoretically)

-          What is implemented or is there some known implementation issues

-          Present and drive the discussion at next IETF

Based on this, we will see if there is something to do or not.
Timing is short before next IETF, however the more material we have, the be=
tter the discussion will be.

Who wants to help on this ?


Brgds,

Stephane & Matthew


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Hi WG,<o:p></o:p></spa=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">To followup on this it=
em, we have scheduled an open mic slot during our first session on Tuesday =
to discuss this topic and see if there is an action plan to trigger.<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">I&#8217;ll prepare few=
 slides to start the discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">See you in Montreal an=
d have good travel.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Stephane<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> stephane=
.litkowski@orange.com [mailto:stephane.litkowski@orange.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 28, 2019 10:40<br>
<b>To:</b> bess@ietf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> bess-chairs@ietf.org; martin.vigoureux@nokia.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Discussion on various NH encoding<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi WG,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">(Speaking as co-chair)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The current discussion on the NH encodings in our AF=
I/SAFIs requires some particular attention.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">We would like to take the opportunity of the next IE=
TF to discuss the subject face to face.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">In the meantime, we are looking for few volunteers w=
ho will:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level=
1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">-<span style=
=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span><![endif]>Do an inventory of what do we have in our specifica=
tions: which AFI/SAFI, which NH encoding rules<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level=
1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">-<span style=
=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span><![endif]>Identify inconsistencies (if any) or assess if it h=
urts or not (theoretically)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level=
1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">-<span style=
=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span><![endif]>What is implemented or is there some known implemen=
tation issues
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level=
1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">-<span style=
=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span><![endif]>Present and drive the discussion at next IETF<o:p><=
/o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ti=
mes New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">Based on this, we will see if there =
is something to do or not.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ti=
mes New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">Timing is short before next IETF, ho=
wever the more material we have, the better the discussion will be.<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ti=
mes New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ti=
mes New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">Who wants to help on this ?<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ti=
mes New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ti=
mes New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ti=
mes New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">Brgds,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ti=
mes New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ti=
mes New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">Stephane &amp; Matthew</span><span l=
ang=3D"FR" style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot=
;,&quot;serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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Greetings iDR and BESS: 

 

Would people who are a BGP implementer or work with a 

BGP implementer send this information to the IDR chairs? 

 

 

Name of Implementation: 

Your name: 

 

1. Is your implementation capable of inferring next hop format from next

hop length included in MP_REACH attribute ?

 

2. If Yes for #1 does this apply to any AFI/SAFI or is this only for

selected AFI/SAFIs?  If it is for select AFI/SAFIs, please provide the list.

 

3. Do you support encoding of two IPv6 next hops (global and link local) in

the same next hop field and if so how do you use it once parsed correctly.

 

 

If it would help you to collect this to have this information in an

web format that could be clicked through in less than 5 minutes, 

please let me know. 

 

I can put up a snappy web form at www.surveymonkey.com. 

 

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style=3D'background:white'><span =
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        Title           : Weighted Multi-Path Procedures for EVPN All-Active Multi-Homing
        Authors         : Neeraj Malhotra
                          Ali Sajassi
                          Samir Thoria
                          Jorge Rabadan
                          John Drake
                          Avinash Lingala
	Filename        : draft-ietf-bess-evpn-unequal-lb-02.txt
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	Date            : 2019-07-22

Abstract:
   In an EVPN-IRB based network overlay, EVPN all-active multi-homing
   enables multi-homing for a CE device connected to two or more PEs via
   a LAG bundle, such that bridged and routed traffic from remote PEs
   can be equally load balanced (ECMPed) across the multi-homing PEs.
   This document defines extensions to EVPN procedures to optimally
   handle unequal access bandwidth distribution across a set of multi-
   homing PEs in order to:

     o provide greater flexibility, with respect to adding or
       removing individual PE-CE links within the access LAG

     o handle PE-CE LAG member link failures that can result in unequal
       PE-CE access bandwidth across a set of multi-homing PEs


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        Title           : BGP based Multi-homing in Virtual Private LAN Service
        Authors         : Bhupesh Kothari
                          Kireeti Kompella
                          Wim Henderickx
                          Florin Balus
                          James Uttaro
	Filename        : draft-ietf-bess-vpls-multihoming-04.txt
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	Date            : 2019-07-23

Abstract:
   Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS) is a Layer 2 Virtual Private
   Network (VPN) that gives its customers the appearance that their
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   connectivity to some sites, often called "multi-homing".  This memo
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   and BGP VPLS solutions.  This document updates [RFC4761] by defining
   new flags in the Control Flags field of the Layer2 Info Extended
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Bess Chair (Matthew and Stephane) 

 

If we are going forward to the Tunnel Encapsulation attribute, we need to
consider 

whether we should send to RFC new work with the Encapsulation Extended
Community. 

 

Otherwise, we are locked into the functionality of the 

Encapsulation Extended Community at the "bare bones" mechanisms. 

 

Specifications with widely deployed Encapsulation Extended community 

Functionality are one case.  

 

New Specifications just being adopted to the BGP community are a 

second case.   My point at the Microphone was to find out what

case the draft-boutros-bess-evpn-geneve gives. 
 
Sue Hares 

 

 
 
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raft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps-13#page-21
 
   The Encapsulation Extended Community was first defined in [RFC5512
<https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5512> ].
   While it provides only a small subset of the functionality of the
   Tunnel Encapsulation attribute, it is used in a number of deployed
   applications, and is still needed for backwards compatibility.  To
   ensure backwards compatibility, this specification establishes the
   following rules:
 
   1.  If the Tunnel Encapsulation attribute of a given route contains a
       barebones Tunnel TLV identifying a particular tunnel type, an
       Encapsulation Extended Community identifying the same tunnel type
       SHOULD be attached to the route.
 
   2.  If the Encapsulation Extended Community identifying a particular
       tunnel type is attached to a given route, the corresponding
       barebones Tunnel TLV MAY be omitted from the Tunnel Encapsulation
       attribute.
 
   3.  Suppose a particular route has both (a) an Encapsulation Extended
       Community specifying a particular tunnel type, and (b) a Tunnel
       Encapsulation attribute with a barebones Tunnel TLV specifying
       that same tunnel type.  Both (a) and (b) MUST be interpreted as
       denoting the same tunnel.

 

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style=3D'font-family:"Courier New"'>Bess Chair (Matthew and Stephane) =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Courier New"'>If we are =
going forward to the Tunnel Encapsulation attribute, we need to consider =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Courier New"'>whether we should send to RFC new =
work with the Encapsulation Extended Community. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Courier =
New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Courier New"'>Otherwise, we are locked into the =
functionality of the <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Courier New"'>Encapsulation Extended Community at =
the &#8220;bare bones&#8221; mechanisms. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Courier =
New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Courier New"'>Specifications with widely deployed =
Encapsulation Extended community <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Courier =
New"'>Functionality are one case.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Courier =
New"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Courier New"'>New Specifications just being =
adopted to the BGP community are a <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Courier New"'>second =
case.&nbsp;&nbsp; My point at the Microphone was to find out =
what<o:p></o:p></span></p><pre><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>case the =
<span style=3D'color:black'>draft-boutros-bess-evpn-geneve gives. =
<o:p></o:p></span></span></pre><pre><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre=
><span style=3D'color:black'>Sue Hares <o:p></o:p></span></pre><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><pre><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre><span =
style=3D'color:black'>-----------------------<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre=
><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre><span =
style=3D'color:black'>raft-ietf-idr-tunnel-encaps-13#page-21<o:p></o:p></=
span></pre><pre><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp; The Encapsulation Extended Community =
was first defined in [<a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5512" =
title=3D"&quot;The BGP Encapsulation Subsequent Address Family =
Identifier (SAFI) and the BGP Tunnel Encapsulation =
Attribute&quot;">RFC5512</a>].<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp; While it provides only a small subset =
of the functionality of the<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp; Tunnel Encapsulation attribute, it is =
used in a number of deployed<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp; applications, and is still needed for =
backwards compatibility.&nbsp; To<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp; ensure backwards compatibility, this =
specification establishes the<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp; following =
rules:<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.&nbsp; If the Tunnel Encapsulation =
attribute of a given route contains a<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; barebones =
Tunnel TLV identifying a particular tunnel type, =
an<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Encapsulation =
Extended Community identifying the same tunnel =
type<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; SHOULD be =
attached to the route.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span =
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style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp; 2.&nbsp; If the Encapsulation =
Extended Community identifying a =
particular<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; tunnel type =
is attached to a given route, the =
corresponding<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;barebones =
Tunnel TLV MAY be omitted from the Tunnel =
Encapsulation<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
attribute.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp; 3.&nbsp; Suppose a particular route =
has both (a) an Encapsulation Extended<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Community =
specifying a particular tunnel type, and (b) a =
Tunnel<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Encapsulation =
attribute with a barebones Tunnel TLV =
specifying<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; that same =
tunnel type.&nbsp; Both (a) and (b) MUST be interpreted =
as<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; denoting the =
same tunnel.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>If we are =
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<p>Hi, Folks:</p>
<p>RFC4659 said:</p>
<p>&quot;</p>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp; When a site is IPv4 capable and IPv6 capable, the same RD M=
AY be used<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; for the advertisement of IPv6 addresses and IPv4 addresses.<br=
>
&nbsp;&nbsp; Alternatively, a different RD MAY be used for the advertisemen=
t of<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; the IPv4 addresses and of the IPv6 addresses. </p>
<p>&quot;</p>
<p>But in BESS L3VPN YANG data model, onely same RD for the advertisement o=
f IPv6 address and IPv4 address is supported, see the following model struc=
ture snippet:</p>
<p>&nbsp; augment /ni:network-instances/ni:network-instance/ni:ni-type:<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;--:(l3vpn)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;--rw l3vpn<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;--rw rd?&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; bgp-rd-type<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;--ro auto-rd?&n=
bsp;&nbsp; rt-types:route-distinguisher<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;--rw ipv4<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp; &#43;--rw un=
icast<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp; &#43;--rw vpn-targets</p>
<p>I am wondering why per address family RD is not supported ,i..e, differe=
nt RD for advertisment of the IPv4 addresses and of the IPv6 address.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>If this is something that have been discussed, please point me the link =
, thanks for clarification.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>-Qin</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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<p>Hi, folks:</p>
<p>When I walk through draft-ietf-bess-l3vpn-yang draft today,</p>
<p>I see what is missing in routing policy model is import and export polic=
y parameter, the grouping apply-policy defined in routing policy yang model=
 which supports import and export policy is not used in the BGP model,</p>
<p>So I am wondering why we not add import and export policy and take out r=
outing policy leafref.</p>
<p>Also I am wondering whether all the vendors support import-from-global a=
nd export-to-global, if the answer is no,
</p>
<p>I am wondering if we should add if-feature for import-from-global and ex=
port-to-global and take them completely out.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>-Qin</p>
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Qin: 

 

Just to make sure I have the context, the "BGP model" is the
draft-bess-l3vpn-yang-draft or the base BGP protocol model? 

 

Sue 

 

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Subject: [bess] miss import and export policy within routing-policy under
vpn-target

 

Hi, folks:

When I walk through draft-ietf-bess-l3vpn-yang draft today,

I see what is missing in routing policy model is import and export policy
parameter, the grouping apply-policy defined in routing policy yang model
which supports import and export policy is not used in the BGP model,

So I am wondering why we not add import and export policy and take out
routing policy leafref.

Also I am wondering whether all the vendors support import-from-global and
export-to-global, if the answer is no, 

I am wondering if we should add if-feature for import-from-global and
export-to-global and take them completely out.

 

-Qin


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Qin:

 

Please compare the BESS L3VPN Yang data model with the base BGP model
handling of AFI/SAFI. 

 

Sue 

 

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Subject: [bess] per VRF RD vs per address family RD

 

Hi, Folks:

RFC4659 said:

"

   When a site is IPv4 capable and IPv6 capable, the same RD MAY be used
   for the advertisement of IPv6 addresses and IPv4 addresses.
   Alternatively, a different RD MAY be used for the advertisement of
   the IPv4 addresses and of the IPv6 addresses. 

"

But in BESS L3VPN YANG data model, onely same RD for the advertisement of
IPv6 address and IPv4 address is supported, see the following model
structure snippet:

  augment /ni:network-instances/ni:network-instance/ni:ni-type:
    +--:(l3vpn)
       +--rw l3vpn
          +--rw rd?        bgp-rd-type
          +--ro auto-rd?   rt-types:route-distinguisher
          +--rw ipv4
          |  +--rw unicast
          |     +--rw vpn-targets

I am wondering why per address family RD is not supported ,i..e, different
RD for advertisment of the IPv4 addresses and of the IPv6 address.

 

If this is something that have been discussed, please point me the link ,
thanks for clarification.

 

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D'>Qin:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Please compare the BESS L3VPN Yang data model with the base BGP model =
handling of AFI/SAFI. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Sue <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
BESS [mailto:bess-bounces@ietf.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Qin =
Wu<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 25, 2019 2:23 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
bess@ietf.org; =
draft-ietf-bess-l3vpn-yang.all@ietf.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [bess] per =
VRF RD vs per address family RD<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
Hi, Folks:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
RFC4659 said:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
&nbsp;&nbsp; When a site is IPv4 capable and IPv6 capable, the same RD =
MAY be used<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; for the advertisement of IPv6 addresses and =
IPv4 addresses.<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; Alternatively, a different RD MAY be =
used for the advertisement of<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; the IPv4 addresses and of =
the IPv6 addresses. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
But in BESS L3VPN YANG data model, onely same RD for the advertisement =
of IPv6 address and IPv4 address is supported, see the following model =
structure snippet:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
&nbsp; augment =
/ni:network-instances/ni:network-instance/ni:ni-type:<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p; +--:(l3vpn)<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; +--rw =
l3vpn<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; +--rw =
rd?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
bgp-rd-type<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
+--ro auto-rd?&nbsp;&nbsp; =
rt-types:route-distinguisher<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; +--rw =
ipv4<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp; =
+--rw unicast<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; +--rw =
vpn-targets<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
I am wondering why per address family RD is not supported ,i..e, =
different RD for advertisment of the IPv4 addresses and of the IPv6 =
address.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
If this is something that have been discussed, please point me the link =
, thanks for clarification.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
-Qin<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>
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IDR

 

The draft-ietf-idr-capabilities has reach a moderate working group consensus
and it will be sent to the IESG for publication. 

 

I want to thank the people who responded to my plea for additional response
from IDR (see below).  This an important registry change.    For those who
would like to send additional comments (support/no support), please continue
to send these comments.  

 

Alvaro and the IESG read these lists to see how strong the consensus is on
documents. 

 

Sue Hares 

 

 

From: Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hares
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Subject: Re: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-capabilities-registry-change-05.txt - WG
LC []6/9/2019 to 6/16/2019] - extending this for a 3rd week (7/8 to 7/15)

 

Greetings: 

 

The email list support for this draft did not receive as many comments as I
expected.   Perhaps, this lack of comments was due to vacations or due to
this idea "just making sense".  

 

Since one of the WG chairs is an author, I do need a strong sense of
support.  Please send in comments or just a comment for "support" or "no
support" for this draft. 

 

Cheerily, Susan Hares

 

 

From: Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hares
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Subject: [Idr] draft-ietf-idr-capabilities-registry-change-05.txt - WG LC
[]6/9/2019 to 6/16/2019]

 

This begins a 2 week IDR  WG Last Call (LC) on
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The document is at: 

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-capabilities-registry-change
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As registration document, there is no implementation report.  

 

Please indicate in comments to the IDR "support" or "no support" for WG LC. 

Consider:

 

1)      Does this change to registration procedures for BGP capability codes
help speed up processing? 

2)      Is there any technical or operational issue in making this change? 

3)      Do we need to pass this to the IESG at the same time as any GROW
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>IDR<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>The =
draft-ietf-idr-capabilities has reach a moderate working group consensus =
and it will be sent to the IESG for publication. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>I want to thank the =
people who responded to my plea for additional response from IDR (see =
below).&nbsp; This an important registry change.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;For =
those who would like to send additional comments (support/no support), =
please continue to send these comments.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Alvaro and the IESG read =
these lists to see how strong the consensus is on documents. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Sue Hares =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Susan =
Hares<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 8, 2019 1:00 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
idr@ietf.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Idr] =
draft-ietf-idr-capabilities-registry-change-05.txt - WG LC []6/9/2019 to =
6/16/2019] - extending this for a 3rd week (7/8 to =
7/15)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Greetings: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>The email list support =
for this draft did not receive as many comments as I expected. =
&nbsp;&nbsp;Perhaps, this lack of comments was due to vacations or due =
to this idea &#8220;just making sense&#8221;.&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Since one of the WG =
chairs is an author, I do need a strong sense of support.&nbsp; Please =
send in comments or just a comment for &#8220;support&#8221; or =
&#8220;no support&#8221; for this draft. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Cheerily, Susan =
Hares<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Idr [mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Susan =
Hares<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 9, 2019 1:33 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
idr@ietf.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [Idr] =
draft-ietf-idr-capabilities-registry-change-05.txt - WG LC []6/9/2019 to =
6/16/2019]<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>This begins =
a 2 week IDR &nbsp;WG Last Call (LC) on =
ft-ietf-idr-capabilities-registry-change-05.txt. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The document =
is at: <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-capabilities-regi=
stry-change/">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-idr-capabilitie=
s-registry-change/</a><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>As =
registration document, there is no implementation report.&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Please indicate in comments to the IDR =
&#8220;support&#8221; or &#8220;no support&#8221; for WG LC. =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Consider:<o:p></o:p></p><p =
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style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span><![endif]><span dir=3DLTR></span>Does this change to =
registration procedures for BGP capability codes help speed up =
processing? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if =
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style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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It is the latter, the basic BGP YANG model.<br>
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<div><b>=D6=F7=CC=E2=A3=BA </b>RE: [bess] miss import and export policy wit=
hin routing-policy under vpn-target</div>
<div><b>=CA=B1=BC=E4=A3=BA </b>2019-07-25 15:38:29</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt; font-family:&quot;C=
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alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:#1F497D">Just to make sure I hav=
e the context, the =A1=B0BGP model=A1=B1 is the draft-bess-l3vpn-yang-draft=
 or the base BGP protocol model?
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t;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-=
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Qin Wu<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 25, 2019 2:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> bess@ietf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> draft-ietf-rtgwg-policy-model.all@ietf.org; draft-ietf-bess-l3vp=
n-yang.all@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [bess] miss import and export policy within routing-policy =
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<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;; color:black">Hi, folks:</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;; color:black">When I walk through draft-ietf-bess-l3vpn-yang=
 draft today,</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;; color:black">I see what is missing in routing policy model =
is import and export policy parameter, the grouping apply-policy defined in=
 routing policy yang model which supports import and export
 policy is not used in the BGP model,</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;; color:black">So I am wondering why we not add import and ex=
port policy and take out routing policy leafref.</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;; color:black">Also I am wondering whether all the vendors su=
pport import-from-global and export-to-global, if the answer is no,
</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;; color:black">I am wondering if we should add if-feature for=
 import-from-global and export-to-global and take them completely out.</spa=
n></p>
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Hey Keyur,

I would like to share my perspective on your comment made at the BESS
yesterday.

What you pointed out that VPN demux should be removed or renewed when we
rewrite bgp next hop is very true in 4364 world or even in EVPN world where
VPN label is of local significance.

But in Srihari's proposal VPN demux may be of domain wide significance
hence mandating its removal at each EBGP boundary in the spec would be a
bad hint.

See with SID indicating to which VRF packet belongs applied consistently by
say NMS your option C becomes seamless without any "next-hop-unchanged"
hacks nor making PE-PE for multihomed sites failover requires any fancy
shadow LFIBs or control plane "taps" into updates which just pass by.

So while in general my personal opinion is that we do not need yet one more
way of  protocol encoding to accomplish L3VPNs which already is shipping in
the form of 4364 and EVPN standards if WG decides to proceed let's learn
from the past experience here.

Cheers,
R.

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hey Keyur,<div><br></div><div>I would like to share my per=
spective on your comment made at the BESS yesterday.=C2=A0</div><div><br></=
div><div>What you pointed out that VPN demux should be removed or renewed w=
hen we rewrite bgp next hop is very true in 4364 world or even in EVPN worl=
d where VPN label is of local significance.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>=
But in Srihari&#39;s proposal VPN demux may be of domain wide significance =
hence mandating its removal at each EBGP boundary in the spec would be a ba=
d hint.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>See with SID indicating to which VRF=
 packet belongs applied consistently by say NMS your option C becomes seaml=
ess without any &quot;next-hop-unchanged&quot; hacks nor making PE-PE for m=
ultihomed sites failover requires any fancy shadow LFIBs or control plane &=
quot;taps&quot; into updates which just pass by.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div>=
<div>So while in general my personal opinion is that we do not need yet one=
 more way of=C2=A0 protocol encoding to accomplish L3VPNs which already is =
shipping in the form of 4364 and EVPN standards if WG decides to proceed le=
t&#39;s learn from the past experience here.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheer=
s,</div><div>R.</div></div>

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the BGP Enabled ServiceS WG of the IETF.

        Title           : BGP based Multi-homing in Virtual Private LAN Service
        Authors         : Bhupesh Kothari
                          Kireeti Kompella
                          Wim Henderickx
                          Florin Balus
                          James Uttaro
	Filename        : draft-ietf-bess-vpls-multihoming-05.txt
	Pages           : 21
	Date            : 2019-07-26

Abstract:
   Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS) is a Layer 2 Virtual Private
   Network (VPN) that gives its customers the appearance that their
   sites are connected via a Local Area Network (LAN).  It is often
   required for the Service Provider (SP) to give the customer redundant
   connectivity to some sites, often called "multi-homing".  This memo
   shows how BGP-based multi-homing can be offered in the context of LDP
   and BGP VPLS solutions.  This document updates RFC 4761 by defining
   new flags in the Control Flags field of the Layer2 Info Extended
   Community.


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