From internet-drafts@ietf.org Fri Apr 26 06:57:54 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bfcpbis@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bfcpbis@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F5621F9966; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:57:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OnPYkBi8Libc; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:57:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F42C21F9939; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:57:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.44.p4 Message-ID: <20130426135754.27980.79211.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:57:54 -0700 Cc: bfcpbis@ietf.org Subject: [bfcpbis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4582bis-09.txt X-BeenThere: bfcpbis@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: BFCPBIS working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 13:57:54 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Binary Floor Control Protocol Bis Workin= g Group of the IETF. Title : The Binary Floor Control Protocol (BFCP) Author(s) : Gonzalo Camarillo Keith Drage Tom Kristensen Joerg Ott Charles Eckel Filename : draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4582bis-09.txt Pages : 90 Date : 2013-04-26 Abstract: Floor control is a means to manage joint or exclusive access to shared resources in a (multiparty) conferencing environment. Thereby, floor control complements other functions -- such as conference and media session setup, conference policy manipulation, and media control -- that are realized by other protocols. This document specifies the Binary Floor Control Protocol (BFCP). BFCP is used between floor participants and floor control servers, and between floor chairs (i.e., moderators) and floor control servers. This document obsoletes RFC 4582. Changes from RFC 4582 are summarized in Section 16. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4582bis There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4582bis-09 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4582bis-09 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From internet-drafts@ietf.org Fri Apr 26 06:58:24 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bfcpbis@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bfcpbis@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2986621F85ED; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:58:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9qk7j6H77O8z; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:58:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1CF321F8454; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:58:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.44.p4 Message-ID: <20130426135818.2588.45026.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:58:18 -0700 Cc: bfcpbis@ietf.org Subject: [bfcpbis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-07.txt X-BeenThere: bfcpbis@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: BFCPBIS working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 13:58:24 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Binary Floor Control Protocol Bis Workin= g Group of the IETF. Title : Session Description Protocol (SDP) Format for Binary Flo= or Control Protocol (BFCP) Streams Author(s) : Gonzalo Camarillo Tom Kristensen Filename : draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-07.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2013-04-26 Abstract: This document specifies how to describe Binary Floor Control Protocol (BFCP) streams in Session Description Protocol (SDP) descriptions. User agents using the offer/answer model to establish BFCP streams use this format in their offers and answers. This document obsoletes RFC 4583. Changes from RFC 4583 are summarized in Section 12. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-07 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-07 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From tomkrist@cisco.com Fri Apr 26 07:09:07 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bfcpbis@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bfcpbis@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3732521F998E for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 07:09:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id adIGJoWxAe+b for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 07:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-iport-2.cisco.com (ams-iport-2.cisco.com [144.254.224.141]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C9C21F9965 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 07:09:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=897; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1366985345; x=1368194945; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject: content-transfer-encoding; bh=LjvrNu8l6IeSRVc+Mm5mh/ocjiGFVh6fMSS/KITesBA=; b=EUtBmeXTiilDIn4dvOuxcEtLpIVe3Or//575LWxPnzJz1GbhZUJh5DYP 2dnUEogYqfdSEjA+gYkt6jUPovTUcDP9Ld0pI8SDf7E72ER1M6w7n7AI3 LGbzXmCRNAt9ucvopLO7PcC8+DnSFHIlzq7UnoE28/PrTDyRlLQb6P3Cd A=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah0IAOmIelGQ/khL/2dsb2JhbABRgwc2AUOCLLtLgQIWbQeCXjwEATwWGAMCAQIBSw0BBwEBBRKHeQcFvn2PEoNVA5cdgSWEbYsXgxA6 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.87,559,1363132800"; d="scan'208";a="82234172" Received: from ams-core-2.cisco.com ([144.254.72.75]) by ams-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 26 Apr 2013 14:09:01 +0000 Received: from [10.61.213.83] ([10.61.213.83]) by ams-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r3QE8xA6018204; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 14:08:59 GMT Message-ID: <517A8A7A.1010006@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 16:08:58 +0200 From: Tom Kristensen Organization: Cisco User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101027 Fedora/3.0.10-1.fc12 Lightning/1.0b2pre Thunderbird/3.0.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "bfcpbis@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 'Tom Kristensen' <2mkristensen@gmail.com>, Alan Ford Subject: [bfcpbis] New versions of rfc4582bis/rfc4583bis X-BeenThere: bfcpbis@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: BFCPBIS working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 14:09:07 -0000 The version negotiation mechanism in SDP and related version handling text is added to the two drafts for rfc4582bis and rfc4583bis as presented and discussed on this list earlier on. Thanks to Alan Ford for both initiating the discussion after interop testing and to provide a solution (and actual text to merge into the specifications). The drafts are available here: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4582bis ... and here: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis The diffs from the previous versions are available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4582bis-09 ... and at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-07 With this the remaining issue is solved, and I do believe the drafts are indeed ready for the final stages of the IETF process! Cheers, -- Tom From johnsonhammond2@hushmail.com Sat Apr 27 10:14:18 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bfcpbis@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bfcpbis@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C993C21F9739 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 10:14:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id duaMAM1o7BOk for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 10:14:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp5.hushmail.com (smtp5a.hushmail.com [65.39.178.235]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EFCE21F9727 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 10:14:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp5.hushmail.com (smtp5a.hushmail.com [65.39.178.235]) by smtp5.hushmail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E44258017 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:14:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.hushmail.com (w8.hushmail.com [65.39.178.52]) by smtp5.hushmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:14:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.hushmail.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 1845514DBDE; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:14:18 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 13:14:17 -0400 To: bfcpbis@ietf.org From: johnsonhammond2@hushmail.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-Id: <20130427171418.1845514DBDE@smtp.hushmail.com> Subject: [bfcpbis] Biggest Fake Conference in Computer Science X-BeenThere: bfcpbis@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: BFCPBIS working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 18:08:05 -0000 Biggest Fake Conference in Computer Science We are researchers from different parts of the world and conducted a study on the world’s biggest bogus computer science conference WORLDCOMP ( http://sites.google.com/site/worlddump1 ) organized by Prof. Hamid Arabnia from University of Georgia, USA. We submitted a fake paper to WORLDCOMP 2011 and again (the same paper with a modified title) to WORLDCOMP 2012. This paper had numerous fundamental mistakes. Sample statements from that paper include: (1). Binary logic is fuzzy logic and vice versa (2). Pascal developed fuzzy logic (3). Object oriented languages do not exhibit any polymorphism or inheritance (4). TCP and IP are synonyms and are part of OSI model (5). Distributed systems deal with only one computer (6). Laptop is an example for a super computer (7). Operating system is an example for computer hardware Also, our paper did not express any conceptual meaning. However, it was accepted both the times without any modifications (and without any reviews) and we were invited to submit the final paper and a payment of $500+ fee to present the paper. We decided to use the fee for better purposes than making Prof. Hamid Arabnia (Chairman of WORLDCOMP) rich. After that, we received few reminders from WORLDCOMP to pay the fee but we never responded. We MUST say that you should look at the above website if you have any thoughts to submit a paper to WORLDCOMP. DBLP and other indexing agencies have stopped indexing WORLDCOMP’s proceedings since 2011 due to its fakeness. See http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~ley/db/conf/icai/index.html for of one of the conferences of WORLDCOMP and notice that there is no listing after 2010. See Section 2 of http://sites.google.com/site/dumpconf for comments from well-known researchers about WORLDCOMP. The status of your WORLDCOMP papers can be changed from scientific to other (i.e., junk or non-technical) at any time. Better not to have a paper than having it in WORLDCOMP and spoil the resume and peace of mind forever! Our study revealed that WORLDCOMP is a money making business, using University of Georgia mask, for Prof. Hamid Arabnia. He is throwing out a small chunk of that money (around 20 dollars per paper published in WORLDCOMP’s proceedings) to his puppet (Mr. Ashu Solo or A.M.G. Solo) who publicizes WORLDCOMP and also defends it at various forums, using fake/anonymous names. The puppet uses fake names and defames other conferences to divert traffic to WORLDCOMP. He also makes anonymous phone calls and tries to threaten the critiques of WORLDCOMP (See Item 7 of Section 5 of above website). That is, the puppet does all his best to get a maximum number of papers published at WORLDCOMP to get more money into his (and Prof. Hamid Arabnia’s) pockets. Monte Carlo Resort (the venue of WORLDCOMP for more than 10 years, until 2012) has refused to provide the venue for WORLDCOMP’13 because of the fears of their image being tarnished due to WORLDCOMP’s fraudulent activities. That is why WORLDCOMP’13 is taking place at a different resort. WORLDCOMP will not be held after 2013. The draft paper submission deadline is over but still there are no committee members, no reviewers, and there is no conference Chairman. The only contact details available on WORLDCOMP’s website is just an email address! Let us make a direct request to Prof. Hamid arabnia: publish all reviews for all the papers (after blocking identifiable details) since 2000 conference. Reveal the names and affiliations of all the reviewers (for each year) and how many papers each reviewer had reviewed on average. We also request him to look at the Open Challenge (Section 6) at https://sites.google.com/site/moneycomp1 Sorry for posting to multiple lists. Spreading the word is the only way to stop this bogus conference. Please forward this message to other mailing lists and people. We are shocked with Prof. Hamid Arabnia and his puppet’s activities http://worldcomp-fake-bogus.blogspot.com Search Google using the keyword worldcomp fake for additional links. From eckelcu@cisco.com Tue Apr 30 02:53:41 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bfcpbis@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bfcpbis@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DED021F99C0 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 02:53:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t7CCm5gcgABc for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 02:53:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com [173.37.86.78]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE77021F9A40 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 02:53:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1644; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1367315616; x=1368525216; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=A/UCYRoayPT1dzGRh3PwO3IsZYXrHSi4s2O5cNxP2A8=; b=guT8yf3LenDhJ+sUeXiwn6KZtvws2rmye0n6e6opJ0xJFUF8cohF+HVh xK/zwqBSEbX2MAmi9tygqr2jjMeC1Mghxqlpe05DClhWD43Nb872zI053 CM/3Oh/kjCpKn0abjEG6CRC/KowpTD0GRkCOCDtvNX5yEXdELw0ZRROeP g=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhgFAOuTf1GtJXHA/2dsb2JhbABSgwc2RL4TgQIWdIIfAQEBBAEBATc0BgUMBAIBCBEEAQELFAkHJwsUCQgCBAENBQgBEod7BwWxAo5cjmkxBwaCaGEDmESQBIMRgig X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.87,580,1363132800"; d="scan'208";a="204678996" Received: from rcdn-core2-5.cisco.com ([173.37.113.192]) by rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com with ESMTP; 30 Apr 2013 09:53:36 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x14.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x14.cisco.com [173.36.12.88]) by rcdn-core2-5.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r3U9raTa017009 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:53:36 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x08.cisco.com ([169.254.3.12]) by xhc-aln-x14.cisco.com ([173.36.12.88]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 04:53:35 -0500 From: "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" To: "Tom Kristensen (tomkrist)" , "bfcpbis@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [bfcpbis] New versions of rfc4582bis/rfc4583bis Thread-Index: AQHOQoefzCp5y7aU0kqjelwPvw2OCJjui1zA Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:53:34 +0000 Message-ID: <92B7E61ADAC1BB4F941F943788C0882804809B57@xmb-aln-x08.cisco.com> References: <517A8A7A.1010006@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <517A8A7A.1010006@cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.21.150.118] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: 'Tom Kristensen' <2mkristensen@gmail.com>, Alan Ford Subject: Re: [bfcpbis] New versions of rfc4582bis/rfc4583bis X-BeenThere: bfcpbis@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: BFCPBIS working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:53:41 -0000 (as an individual) Tom and Alan, Thank you both for the addition of the version handling text. The changes l= ook good to me. One typo in section 7 of rfc4583-bis: s/ MUST assume/MUST assume Cheers, Charles > -----Original Message----- > From: bfcpbis-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:bfcpbis-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Tom Kristensen (tomkrist) > Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 3:09 PM > To: bfcpbis@ietf.org > Cc: 'Tom Kristensen'; Alan Ford > Subject: [bfcpbis] New versions of rfc4582bis/rfc4583bis >=20 > The version negotiation mechanism in SDP and related version > handling text is added to the two drafts for rfc4582bis and rfc4583bis > as presented and discussed on this list earlier on. >=20 > Thanks to Alan Ford for both initiating the discussion after interop > testing and to provide a solution (and actual text to merge into the > specifications). >=20 >=20 > The drafts are available here: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4582bis > ... and here: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis >=20 > The diffs from the previous versions are available at: > http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4582bis-09 > ... and at: > http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-07 >=20 > With this the remaining issue is solved, and I do believe the drafts > are indeed ready for the final stages of the IETF process! >=20 > Cheers, > -- Tom >=20 > _______________________________________________ > bfcpbis mailing list > bfcpbis@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bfcpbis From tomkrist@cisco.com Tue Apr 30 02:57:04 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bfcpbis@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bfcpbis@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430C521F9A4D for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 02:57:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wjDEHCIYSIv1 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 02:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-iport-2.cisco.com (ams-iport-2.cisco.com [144.254.224.141]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E5921F9A2E for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 02:56:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1845; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1367315819; x=1368525419; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject: references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5V9w1UgkVa9i9Js3FXF/3rtriSTp+OGxGANZdPbkt0o=; b=fu4SdSB7Ok0ntoroIxpRLScGQYvEKbxyFybC/L7v5ikfqCesgClCd7Lw Xeu3aMPEbzjgbaz0njWzw0CqtnWLO1VmUV+t6BPIvnru5Osfh2JfqfFM7 IVjckRn971/KpY0RfcroNmVCwvkDDpYnWHwn+fZgZ56Lgqdmg8STbqL/I A=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.87,580,1363132800"; d="scan'208";a="82297262" Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com ([144.254.72.81]) by ams-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 30 Apr 2013 09:56:58 +0000 Received: from [10.47.39.8] ([10.47.39.8]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r3U9uuOd027890; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:56:56 GMT Message-ID: <517F9568.5090502@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 11:56:56 +0200 From: Tom Kristensen Organization: Cisco User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101027 Fedora/3.0.10-1.fc12 Lightning/1.0b2pre Thunderbird/3.0.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" References: <517A8A7A.1010006@cisco.com> <92B7E61ADAC1BB4F941F943788C0882804809B57@xmb-aln-x08.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <92B7E61ADAC1BB4F941F943788C0882804809B57@xmb-aln-x08.cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "bfcpbis@ietf.org" , 'Tom Kristensen' <2mkristensen@gmail.com>, Alan Ford Subject: Re: [bfcpbis] New versions of rfc4582bis/rfc4583bis X-BeenThere: bfcpbis@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: BFCPBIS working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 09:57:04 -0000 I "asume" so ;) I'll correct the typo locally and submit it in a later version. -- Tom On 04/30/2013 11:53 AM, Charles Eckel (eckelcu) wrote: > (as an individual) > > Tom and Alan, > > Thank you both for the addition of the version handling text. The changes look good to me. > One typo in section 7 of rfc4583-bis: > s/ MUST assume/MUST assume > > Cheers, > Charles > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bfcpbis-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:bfcpbis-bounces@ietf.org] >> On Behalf Of Tom Kristensen (tomkrist) >> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 3:09 PM >> To: bfcpbis@ietf.org >> Cc: 'Tom Kristensen'; Alan Ford >> Subject: [bfcpbis] New versions of rfc4582bis/rfc4583bis >> >> The version negotiation mechanism in SDP and related version >> handling text is added to the two drafts for rfc4582bis and rfc4583bis >> as presented and discussed on this list earlier on. >> >> Thanks to Alan Ford for both initiating the discussion after interop >> testing and to provide a solution (and actual text to merge into the >> specifications). >> >> >> The drafts are available here: >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4582bis >> ... and here: >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis >> >> The diffs from the previous versions are available at: >> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4582bis-09 >> ... and at: >> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-07 >> >> With this the remaining issue is solved, and I do believe the drafts >> are indeed ready for the final stages of the IETF process! >> >> Cheers, >> -- Tom >> >> _______________________________________________ >> bfcpbis mailing list >> bfcpbis@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bfcpbis >> From eckelcu@cisco.com Tue Apr 30 03:00:33 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bfcpbis@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bfcpbis@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD1521F9A4D for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 03:00:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HGtAqLWYJT1U for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 03:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com [173.37.86.76]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49BE121F9B8D for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 03:00:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2274; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1367316028; x=1368525628; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=G3rekNxTBWQ+eOsboPJdWzZs6R+ecc3dr0cFCMvuviA=; b=iDfRS2zLH1lKHYbA+ScQYe0pXz+Khu/aGEMQA5J7iszRxezkWjkdDxCU TGIohcfmSMR1Itvh5lCnY+prjCP+i9a0P8Mr35rR+5EjJnjLVkqfwkc9n 9dv5QEj9ssazG4u4DkIigDdmdESGqU4wgvvDb10Un6t8eim5zR2WYlnhS 8=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhgFABuVf1GtJV2Z/2dsb2JhbABSgwc2RL4TgQIWdIIfAQEBBAEBATc0BgUMBAIBCBEEAQEBChQJBycLFAkIAgQOBQgBEod7BwWxA45djmkxBwaCaGEDmESQBIMRgig X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.87,580,1363132800"; d="scan'208";a="204695290" Received: from rcdn-core-2.cisco.com ([173.37.93.153]) by rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 30 Apr 2013 10:00:27 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x15.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x15.cisco.com [173.36.12.89]) by rcdn-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r3UA0R3N028340 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:00:27 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x08.cisco.com ([169.254.3.12]) by xhc-aln-x15.cisco.com ([173.36.12.89]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 05:00:26 -0500 From: "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" To: "Tom Kristensen (tomkrist)" Thread-Topic: [bfcpbis] New versions of rfc4582bis/rfc4583bis Thread-Index: AQHOQoefzCp5y7aU0kqjelwPvw2OCJjui1zAgABVfwD//6z+4A== Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:00:26 +0000 Message-ID: <92B7E61ADAC1BB4F941F943788C0882804809BA6@xmb-aln-x08.cisco.com> References: <517A8A7A.1010006@cisco.com> <92B7E61ADAC1BB4F941F943788C0882804809B57@xmb-aln-x08.cisco.com> <517F9568.5090502@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <517F9568.5090502@cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.21.150.118] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "bfcpbis@ietf.org" , 'Tom Kristensen' <2mkristensen@gmail.com>, Alan Ford Subject: Re: [bfcpbis] New versions of rfc4582bis/rfc4583bis X-BeenThere: bfcpbis@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: BFCPBIS working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:00:33 -0000 Yes, darn auto-correct :) > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Kristensen (tomkrist) > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 10:57 AM > To: Charles Eckel (eckelcu) > Cc: bfcpbis@ietf.org; 'Tom Kristensen'; Alan Ford > Subject: Re: [bfcpbis] New versions of rfc4582bis/rfc4583bis >=20 > I "asume" so ;) >=20 > I'll correct the typo locally and submit it in a later version. >=20 > -- Tom >=20 > On 04/30/2013 11:53 AM, Charles Eckel (eckelcu) wrote: > > (as an individual) > > > > Tom and Alan, > > > > Thank you both for the addition of the version handling text. The > changes look good to me. > > One typo in section 7 of rfc4583-bis: > > s/ MUST assume/MUST assume > > > > Cheers, > > Charles > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: bfcpbis-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:bfcpbis- > bounces@ietf.org] > >> On Behalf Of Tom Kristensen (tomkrist) > >> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 3:09 PM > >> To: bfcpbis@ietf.org > >> Cc: 'Tom Kristensen'; Alan Ford > >> Subject: [bfcpbis] New versions of rfc4582bis/rfc4583bis > >> > >> The version negotiation mechanism in SDP and related version > >> handling text is added to the two drafts for rfc4582bis and > rfc4583bis > >> as presented and discussed on this list earlier on. > >> > >> Thanks to Alan Ford for both initiating the discussion after > interop > >> testing and to provide a solution (and actual text to merge into > the > >> specifications). > >> > >> > >> The drafts are available here: > >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4582bis > >> ... and here: > >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis > >> > >> The diffs from the previous versions are available at: > >> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4582bis= -09 > >> ... and at: > >> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis= -07 > >> > >> With this the remaining issue is solved, and I do believe the > drafts > >> are indeed ready for the final stages of the IETF process! > >> > >> Cheers, > >> -- Tom > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> bfcpbis mailing list > >> bfcpbis@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bfcpbis > >>