From nobody Thu Apr 6 07:58:54 2017 Return-Path: <2mkristensen@gmail.com> X-Original-To: bfcpbis@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bfcpbis@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C44124282 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2017 07:58:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.698 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.698 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WCy4iEmppysg for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2017 07:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vk0-x22d.google.com (mail-vk0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D70FF127B57 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2017 07:58:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vk0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id s68so43637980vke.3 for ; Thu, 06 Apr 2017 07:58:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=PkRYL1NI/TghEOIiYCuKD747aGyNJDq64PeQp1xTspU=; b=fuyApK9v460zTueO7OsRSikBg2n+IwHc1SHT7r6YVCxmd7jYunJ6iqA4LBc0Hvbc9r PlowE1qpJfOkEWJrup/NfDXxe8akasqfif8L3hlIAH6IFY/YqsJN1Uvt8PxhdXhzYxBj Z5YhpVP2vVGik4ha9cjkBgoAJ8qjreB1LJuopc6WSDbOmeG3EhxWV25aTNskNZQhC//Y fTnbsfc0Io1c/TrtRWJmmk2+Itjq6bkSJi+hNE8/AWR18JyDeHcgMQi8rE4aaEFSSQuw LpZyBPdeLspo0DA/T8BSfmPWMvLrKtcoejn9VQ9/Iaj+bXfyH/XpZSvepFKFJnvdxtoE hr3w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=PkRYL1NI/TghEOIiYCuKD747aGyNJDq64PeQp1xTspU=; b=GJv8nVJ4qxtaWPS/HCQzM+XFfEl/8qWbKJ8pf5q20gfJfAuWlY/OC4Pe5HunRMe4vx y+oNYMWFyS3LCQUOze+TN9MpPc1eDphuTlHRVeB1ITlvK24IVUuZM0NEUd81ER5VAeF5 Tsh4ORBxqH23aZKsvVzDupkgkocFQSYKG721eRqdVluejRsBQkl3zeRGTjxchul9IMTb qHIBBu7Zbb4s8RGrqIdcXrg80r7ZJsCxkds89+fEABoWU0zAR+EMNpvUajLy+ChPUft+ 5/Xf1Qvzi/VAap+DNgp6Bjb8YUOS04Kt+RrOwjmxjvgRpajK0Uumv0xf3tGOseiRSZmk 2cVw== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H0cl/UWpmiERqHvV36ObJmqpJiYJm2XkC85tfBSjvm30KKUKOHtLKTmjGT438Hpwbe3NwISVlB1AJLJTQ== X-Received: by 10.176.2.246 with SMTP id 109mr8731952uah.79.1491490722880; Thu, 06 Apr 2017 07:58:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.75.215 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Apr 2017 07:58:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Tom Kristensen <2mkristensen@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 16:58:42 +0200 Message-ID: To: Roman Shpount Cc: "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" , "Tom Kristensen (tomkrist)" , Tom Kristensen , "bfcpbis@ietf.org" , Gonzalo Camarillo , "Paul E. Jones" , Christer Holmberg , Mary Barnes Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113dc8eeb928eb054c80be2a Archived-At: Subject: Re: [bfcpbis] Updates to draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis required to enable ICE X-BeenThere: bfcpbis@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: BFCPBIS working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2017 14:58:54 -0000 --001a113dc8eeb928eb054c80be2a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A couple of questions before digging and digesting this into a proper text proposal. Inline below, of course. On 2 March 2017 at 23:14, Roman Shpount wrote: > HI All, > > Here is the first draft of changes proposed for this document: > > 1. In Section 3, we need to define an additional proto field value: > TCP/DTLS/BFCP, which is realized by running BFCP on top of DTLS as descib= ed > in this specification and running DTLS on top of TCP is realized using th= e > framing method defined in RFC4571, with DTLS packets being sent and > received instead of RTP/RTCP packets using the shim defined in RFC4571 so > that length field defined in RFC4571 precedes each DTLS message. All > sections of the document should be updated to include the TCP/DTLS/BFCP > transport. > This was questioned by Charles and I agree with the conclusion, backwards and forward compliancy is good although confusing/differing "syntax". > 2. References to RFC 5763 should be replaced with references to > draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp. Document should be updated to use procedures > from draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp including dtls-id. > Will include what is needed to use the draft procedures and dtls-id in text and examples. > 3. References to RFC 4572 should be replaced with references to > draft-ietf-mmusic-4572-update. Document should be checked for compliance > with 4572 update. > The id-nits checker made me aware of RFC 8122 obsoleting RFC 4572, I reckon the additions necessary from the draft-ietf-mmusic-4572-update is covered in the new RFC 8122 or not? 4. Section 10.5.is redundant with draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp. > OK. Will chop. > 5. We should not be using SHA-1 fingerprints in examples, since they are > deprecated > Will polish examples. 6. The following section should be added which describes ICE support: > Text will be copied verbatim! > > ICE Considerations > > <...> -- Tom --=20 # http://folk.uio.no/tomkri/ | +47 9516 1107 (m) ## http://facebook.com/tomkri/ | xmpp:tomkri@jabber.no ### "=C3=85 leve er =C3=A5 ta stilling. Jeg hater likegyldige mennesker.", = A. Gramsci --001a113dc8eeb928eb054c80be2a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A couple of questions before digging and digesting this in= to a proper text proposal. Inline below, of course.


=
On 2 March 2017 at 23= :14, Roman Shpount <rshpount@turbobridge.com> wrote:<= br>
HI Al= l,

Here is the first draft of changes proposed for this = document:

1. In Section 3, we need to define an ad= ditional proto field value: TCP/DTLS/BFCP, which is realized by running BFC= P on top of=C2=A0DTLS as descibed in this specification and running DTLS on= top of TCP is realized using the framing method defined in RFC4571, with D= TLS packets being sent and received=C2=A0instead of RTP/RTCP packets using = the shim defined in RFC4571=C2=A0so that length field defined in RFC4571 pr= ecedes each DTLS message. All sections of the document should be updated to= include the TCP/DTLS/BFCP transport.

This was questioned by Charles and I agree with the conclusion, back= wards and forward compliancy is good although confusing/differing "syn= tax".
=C2=A0
2. References to RFC 5763 should be replaced = with references to draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp. Document should be updated t= o use procedures from draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp including dtls-id.

Will include what is needed to use the= draft procedures and dtls-id in text and examples.
=C2=A0
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l= eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
3. R= eferences to RFC 4572 should be replaced with references to draft-ietf-mmus= ic-4572-update. Document should be checked for compliance with 4572 update.=
=C2=A0
The id-nits checker made me = aware of RFC 8122 obsoleting RFC 4572, I reckon the additions necessary fro= m the=C2=A0draft-ietf-mmusic-4572-update is covered in the new RFC 8122 or = not?

=
4. Section 10.5.is redundant with draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp.

OK. Will chop.
=C2=A0
5. We should n= ot be using SHA-1 fingerprints in examples, since they are deprecated
=
=C2=A0
Will polish examples.
=
6. The following section should be added which describes ICE support:<= /div>

Text will be copied verbatim!
=C2=A0

ICE Considerations

<...>=C2=A0

= -- Tom
=C2=A0
--
# http://folk.uio.no/tomkri/ | +47 9516 1107 (m)
### "=C3=85 leve er =C3=A5 ta stilling= . Jeg hater likegyldige mennesker.", A. Gramsci
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Jones" , Christer Holmberg , Mary Barnes Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c0e7aae92c835054c838231 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [bfcpbis] Updates to draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis required to enable ICE X-BeenThere: bfcpbis@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: BFCPBIS working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2017 18:16:44 -0000 --94eb2c0e7aae92c835054c838231 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Tom Kristensen <2mkristensen@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2 March 2017 at 23:14, Roman Shpount wrote: > >> 1. In Section 3, we need to define an additional proto field value: >> TCP/DTLS/BFCP, which is realized by running BFCP on top of DTLS as descibed >> in this specification and running DTLS on top of TCP is realized using the >> framing method defined in RFC4571, with DTLS packets being sent and >> received instead of RTP/RTCP packets using the shim defined in RFC4571 so >> that length field defined in RFC4571 precedes each DTLS message. All >> sections of the document should be updated to include the TCP/DTLS/BFCP >> transport. >> > > This was questioned by Charles and I agree with the conclusion, backwards > and forward compliancy is good although confusing/differing "syntax". > I am not sure if this means you want to change this somehow or that you are going to update the draft with TCP/DTLS/BFCP. I agree that the syntax is not ideal but it is in line with other documents such as dtls-sdp or sctp-sdp. The id-nits checker made me aware of RFC 8122 obsoleting RFC 4572, I reckon > the additions necessary from the draft-ietf-mmusic-4572-update is covered > in the new RFC 8122 or not? > draft-ietf-mmusic-4572-update is now published as RFC 8122, so references to RFC 4572 should be updated to RFC 8122 The rest sounds good. When you publish the updated version I will review and provide comments. I will also sync comments which were made against the ICE Considerations section of sctp-sdp with your draft. Regards, _____________ Roman Shpount --94eb2c0e7aae92c835054c838231 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Tom Kristensen = <2mkristensen@gmail.com> wrote:
On 2 March 2017 at 23:14, Roman Shpount <= rshpount@turb= obridge.com> wrote:
1. In Section 3, we need to define an add= itional proto field value: TCP/DTLS/BFCP, which is realized by running BFCP= on top of=C2=A0DTLS as descibed in this specification and running DTLS on = top of TCP is realized using the framing method defined in RFC4571, with DT= LS packets being sent and received=C2=A0instead of RTP/RTCP packets using t= he shim defined in RFC4571=C2=A0so that length field defined in RFC4571 pre= cedes each DTLS message. All sections of the document should be updated to = include the TCP/DTLS/BFCP transport.

This was questioned by Charles and I agree with the conclusion= , backwards and forward compliancy is good although confusing/differing &qu= ot;syntax".=C2=A0

<= div>I am not sure if this means you want to change this somehow or that you= are going to update the draft with TCP/DTLS/BFCP. I agree that the syntax = is not ideal but it is in line with other documents such as dtls-sdp=C2=A0o= r sctp-sdp.

The id-nits checker made me aware of RFC 8122= obsoleting RFC 4572, I reckon the additions necessary from the=C2=A0draft-= ietf-mmusic-4572-update is covered in the new RFC 8122 or not?

draft-ietf-mmusic-4572-upda= te is now published as RFC 8122, so references to RFC 4572 should be update= d to RFC 8122

The rest sounds good.
<= div>
When you publish the updated version I will review and p= rovide comments. I will also sync comments which were made against the ICE = Considerations section of sctp-sdp with your draft.

Regards,
_____________
Roman Shpount=C2=A0
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Jones" CC: Charles Eckel , From: Gonzalo Camarillo Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 22:50:19 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFlrLLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM2K7se6/zb8jDA41M1tsOf6OxeLfuqNM FptmfWGzOH9hA5MDi8eU3xtZPXbOusvusWTJTyaPhn1H2QNYorhsUlJzMstSi/TtErgydn2z LJjNWPH3tEgDYyNjFyMnh4SAicTG5qvMXYxcHEIC6xklnm/YyQLhrGKUuNq0iA2kSkQgTOLT lHnMIDazgKXEwv17mUBsNgELiS237rOA2MICQhIXD/8Gs3kF7CXmft8H1ssioCpx+MJ/VhBb VCBGomXJB0aIGkGJkzOfANVzAM3UlFi/Sx9ivLzE9rdzwFYJCWhLLH/WwjKBkW8Wko5ZCB2z kHQsYGRexShanFqclJtuZKSXWpSZXFycn6eXl1qyiREYiAe3/DbYwfjyueMhRgEORiUeXoVZ vyOEWBPLiitzDzFKcDArifC6TwAK8aYkVlalFuXHF5XmpBYfYpTmYFES53XcdyFCSCA9sSQ1 OzW1ILUIJsvEwSnVwDhB71f3GZMJE2vKLp/ZstWufEXXluWLTQtqAkwiNj8ulfM+a7NNpl21 OKe8ZBrzyulvP03bFDrl6JbLX2+bFGvuebRLa4bc3uNJRTENxw5V29XlftmaMJ215KOR3LO4 DQmzpz53OXzWtznqR5jLpvmKSgl5EnrLSzMrJ2tUsdeFzvolaNjZf0WJpTgj0VCLuag4EQBu GjoxQAIAAA== Archived-At: Subject: [bfcpbis] Status of X-BeenThere: bfcpbis@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: BFCPBIS working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 19:50:26 -0000 Tom, Paul, what the status of the currently-expired draft below? https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-16 Thanks, Gonzalo From nobody Sun Apr 23 23:14:27 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bfcpbis@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bfcpbis@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9641286CA for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2017 23:14:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.523 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.523 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Or3gqy3A0_i9 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2017 23:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alln-iport-3.cisco.com (alln-iport-3.cisco.com [173.37.142.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 741BE1279E5 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2017 23:14:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=774; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1493014464; x=1494224064; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=OQyGxQYEskifiiWCkH2u7aBP5rJFmX/qX/4YDGpghpM=; b=EtrCtrdKUO1wfceJpSSlYPOYNqYF5I3JAUkRrrVucge5LqUM2hQZP119 mtshOdEhLZYMsy167glNiML/uAAKh7I2FobY3cJd4NZDMH0qX9lMnpiUA j1cFmXKXmS5FGmDAkZjaz743lUJNGyswRuUwp6kz5CiIUePDkO/A/BkKG 8=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0DQAAB7lv1Y/4kNJK1dGQEBAQEBAQEBA?= =?us-ascii?q?QEBBwEBAQEBg1RhgQwHhiyHSZVtAQORWYIPIQuFLkoChBE/GAECAQEBAQEBAWs?= =?us-ascii?q?ohRYCAQMBAWwLEAIBKSUPGAslAgQBDQWKHA6uDIsUAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBA?= =?us-ascii?q?QEBAQEBGAWGU48yBYkyhxqBEYtkAYcWi2+BaI9vlBgBHziBBmMVRIZodYgpgQ0?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQE?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.37,243,1488844800"; d="scan'208";a="415991148" Received: from alln-core-4.cisco.com ([173.36.13.137]) by alln-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 24 Apr 2017 06:14:23 +0000 Received: from XCH-RTP-019.cisco.com (xch-rtp-019.cisco.com [64.101.220.159]) by alln-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id v3O6ENWN010164 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 24 Apr 2017 06:14:23 GMT Received: from xch-rtp-015.cisco.com (64.101.220.155) by XCH-RTP-019.cisco.com (64.101.220.159) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1210.3; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 02:14:22 -0400 Received: from xch-rtp-015.cisco.com ([64.101.220.155]) by XCH-RTP-015.cisco.com ([64.101.220.155]) with mapi id 15.00.1210.000; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 02:14:22 -0400 From: "Tom Kristensen (tomkrist)" To: Gonzalo Camarillo , Tom Kristensen <2mkristensen@gmail.com>, "Paul E. Jones" CC: "bfcpbis@ietf.org" , "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" Thread-Topic: [bfcpbis] Status of Thread-Index: AQHSu6GzHw86BEM35kCE3OOowFgZ6KHUDLlN Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 06:14:22 +0000 Message-ID: <1493014462380.17691@cisco.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: nb-NO, en-US Content-Language: nb-NO X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.47.39.29] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [bfcpbis] Status of X-BeenThere: bfcpbis@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: BFCPBIS working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 06:14:26 -0000 It's under work as of now and will suddenly appear as fresh and unexpired..= .=0A= =0A= -- Tom=0A= ________________________________________=0A= Fra: bfcpbis p=E5 vegne av Gonzalo Camarillo =0A= Sendt: 22. april 2017 21:50=0A= Til: Tom Kristensen; Paul E. 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Jones" References: <1493014462380.17691@cisco.com> CC: "bfcpbis@ietf.org" , "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" From: Gonzalo Camarillo Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 09:39:08 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1493014462380.17691@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrLLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM2K7lm7f3L8RBncPaltsOf6OxeLfuqNM FptmfWGzOH9hA5PFlSO/2BxYPab83sjqsXPWXXaPJUt+Mnk07DvKHsASxWWTkpqTWZZapG+X wJUx4dMmtoIPbBW/FqY3MF5g7WLk5JAQMJHY+/AXYxcjF4eQwHpGiXlb/kI5qxkl+i49Ze9i 5OAQFlCR2LxGASQuItDBKDF9xnEWkG4hgUSJGRNWM4LYzAJREj87ethAbDYBC4ktt+6D1fAK 2Eu0TL0GFmcRUJU4v+0OmC0qECPRsuQDI0SNoMTJmU/A6jkFdCSmXvnPCjHTQOLIojlQtrxE 89bZzBB7tSWWP2thmcAoMAtJ+ywkLbOQtCxgZF7FKFqcWlycm25kpJdalJlcXJyfp5eXWrKJ ERjIB7f8ttrBePC54yFGAQ5GJR7eB8p/I4RYE8uKK3MPMUpwMCuJ8P7hAQrxpiRWVqUW5ccX leakFh9ilOZgURLnddh3IUJIID2xJDU7NbUgtQgmy8TBKdXAaM79akoVz7kdinOf9VX6LMt+ 0/Pxdu2afw0lZ2dc/KY8Y4Y98+QjBeU7Z2rlf1hRstxQ7Q9rNYPWrf+TaxsfLJ9QUChwWuPi Hv15lZqtDs81g0JULvT840/8I/XT85vrwfhFm0+4lt/sPDbxa2nKOuGE325JC9yXBaT73LTv mexvdaKXp/rwPCWW4oxEQy3mouJEAJ0XwslgAgAA Archived-At: Subject: Re: [bfcpbis] Status of X-BeenThere: bfcpbis@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: BFCPBIS working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 06:39:14 -0000 Hi Tom, thanks for the quick response. What is the ETA for this refresh? Cheers, Gonzalo On 24/04/2017 9:14 AM, Tom Kristensen (tomkrist) wrote: > It's under work as of now and will suddenly appear as fresh and unexpired... > > -- Tom > ________________________________________ > Fra: bfcpbis på vegne av Gonzalo Camarillo > Sendt: 22. april 2017 21:50 > Til: Tom Kristensen; Paul E. Jones > Kopi: bfcpbis@ietf.org; Charles Eckel (eckelcu) > Emne: [bfcpbis] Status of > > Tom, Paul, > > what the status of the currently-expired draft below? > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-16 > > Thanks, > > Gonzalo > > _______________________________________________ > bfcpbis mailing list > bfcpbis@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bfcpbis >