From nobody Fri May 4 00:27:13 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bfcpbis@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bfcpbis@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34933126E01 for ; Fri, 4 May 2018 00:27:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Nar1UXvBENz1 for ; Fri, 4 May 2018 00:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lf0-x22e.google.com (mail-lf0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1660D124205 for ; Fri, 4 May 2018 00:27:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lf0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id j16-v6so29518624lfb.7 for ; Fri, 04 May 2018 00:27:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references :to; bh=e8VhWHixJFGZbjKBVxOac7n4YHr4soShcPx70hHMB4s=; b=XLyR3xXPIFjtkst7AHQQU5N1xTBp6dywjFdh43c5zbBcAAc6mVv7qR0oB5/MWpC3sk Ow9znDl5SjnqOHCJcMwtqYVQDVR3SJTB8tx1TwhA6a1ELWXn5sPNn2K3AePUdwoexdyq JLLIJkIgHyk1FrL9UGxAggjhVDaBGKTuOsZu99QeDGVeFzsgZ9Shc668Yv3fj24aA0hT caJu8Otij+e6wdTzFpVT1ZKonqqONH4xr9SLFL8CnlayviEVNuTpXFoDagWsEVQUbYTK TQNbSH+3Vxa5XV/0YJLhiYqXEB1uXHPBgE4nVgqibyS2IL67E+lc3OLcu9ra9/oXlswo Bg9w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=e8VhWHixJFGZbjKBVxOac7n4YHr4soShcPx70hHMB4s=; b=JmEiBFXC7VHC9amyQxTQmp5hYndkDTAdytoeMFFe+8bV/EIHQ9VT8TfKbVSu0+rnxK 2PaUsgjuG2HrSmbQ7BW2t62Dk0eZLyuYcnrlOv+fKFC2pQRrJl6Z2VE0aKz9588wa140 xLgm39dXFqE7nzkgJeJTglbWrZoEM8LC41gIue3+cdFGlEaEEFWOvdqj3r9TOkevHHia +5ovWyrufMoar6CUlClGWlPF9leo29WqC8DiEDkWJkr0m93NWtHc43V173bZQUvka7IO aMXDcoDHhtjVMBKZR/5Eqa6QhioTzo1q1AubtJiemzhG5lWJN7Hsz/m6b0olz92QY607 aOUA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tBoTWd4k2lpCqpPYYLAYaaiTgip5MvhMPlUXj7Nf9W6iZ5eDe27 TkoxQwZNMs3KA16cXXBhAjs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZouYXhkHHAdhAtUyxyMXV7qCCC8d3HCkccwlB1IlvB9pX75szgdmYo8oBOx4zej8UY6BJB5pw== X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9c90:: with SMTP id x16-v6mr15124494lji.13.1525418827259; Fri, 04 May 2018 00:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.66] ([31.185.193.244]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x24-v6sm3145612ljj.54.2018.05.04.00.27.05 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 04 May 2018 00:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_444A0450-2589-468B-A26E-293F7E89852B" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Alan Ford In-Reply-To: <7C3C61AA-2849-4918-A86C-D62E1B60F223@ericsson.com> Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 08:27:03 +0100 Cc: "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" , "bfcpbis@ietf.org" Message-Id: References: <60538334-75B5-4A93-8561-2CD2B7DC4295@cisco.com> <7C3C61AA-2849-4918-A86C-D62E1B60F223@ericsson.com> To: Christer Holmberg X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [bfcpbis] 4583bis: SDP bfcpver attribute X-BeenThere: bfcpbis@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: BFCPBIS working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 May 2018 07:27:12 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_444A0450-2589-468B-A26E-293F7E89852B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Hi all, Apologies, for some reason I totally missed this mail. I think the = intention was for bfcpver to be included in both; prior to Christer=92s = recent clarification text this was not so obvious with the way the text = flowed. Now it is, I think this needs correction. Changing text to support this would be simple, just changing in the = offer (13.1) section: When the offerer creates an initial offer, the offerer MUST associate an SDP 'floorctrl' attribute (Section 5 = ) = with the 'm' line. To: When the offerer creates an initial offer, the offerer MUST associate an SDP 'floorctrl' attribute (Section 5 = ) = and an SDP 'bfcpver' attribute (Section 8) with the 'm' line. And removing the line about bfcpver from the bullet point list. And for the answer section (13.2), move the bfcpver bullet point to the = first list. Ultimately the bfcpver attribute is informational; we do not specify any = algorithms. Endpoints will decide what version to use based on what is = shared and thus what is known about the peer=92s capabilities. But it = would remove any ambiguity to have this explicitly stated by both ends. Regards, Alan > On 27 Mar 2018, at 06:07, Christer Holmberg = wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > There is a way to determine a default value of the attribute is not = present, so that is not a problem. >=20 > The question is whether the floor control server should care about a = value sent (either explicit or implicit default) by the floor control = client or not, or whether the only one sending a valid value is the = floor control server. >=20 > I am fine either way, but if both the client and server send it we = will need additional procedures. So, it would probably be easiest to = keep the text saying that only the server sends it. >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Christer=20 >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 > On 27 Mar 2018, at 6.43, Charles Eckel (eckelcu) > wrote: >=20 >> (as an individual) >> =20 >> Hi Christer, >> =20 >> The offer/answer language used for confid, userid, and floorid, was = used for bfcpver as well. I do not see any harm in a floor control = client including a bfcpver attribute in an SDP offer or answer, but the = draft is currently silent on this. >> If I had it to do over, I would probably opt for being explicit that = the bfcpver attribute is required in all offers and answers, but I do = not think we can make that change now. The example is okay as is. It = would also be fine to remove the bfcpver attribute from the answer in = which he answerer is a client. >> Alternatively, I suppose we could as that the bfcpver is optional = (i.e. MAY include) when acting as a floor control client. Thoughts? >> =20 >> Charles >> =20 >> From: bfcpbis > on behalf of Christer Holmberg = > >> Date: Monday, March 26, 2018 at 12:14 AM >> To: "bfcpbis@ietf.org " > >> Subject: [bfcpbis] 4583bis: SDP bfcpver attribute >> =20 >> Hi, <> >> =20 >> I would like to clarify the usage of the SDP =91bfcpver' attribute. >> =20 >> According to the procedures, the attribute is only inserted by the = floor control server. I double checked this in older versions of = 4583bis. However, in the examples of older versions the attribute is = included in an SDP answer, even if the answerer indicates that it will = be floor control client. >> =20 >> So, what is the correct way? >> =20 >> Regards, >> =20 >> Christer >> =20 >> =20 > _______________________________________________ > bfcpbis mailing list > bfcpbis@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bfcpbis --Apple-Mail=_444A0450-2589-468B-A26E-293F7E89852B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Hi all,

Apologies, for some reason I totally missed this mail. I = think the intention was for bfcpver to be included in both; prior to = Christer=92s recent clarification text this was not so obvious with the = way the text flowed. Now it is, I think this needs correction.

Changing text to support = this would be simple, just changing in the offer (13.1) = section:

   When the offerer creates an initial offer, =
the offerer MUST associate
   an SDP 'floorctrl' attribute (Section 5) with the 'm' line.

To:

   When the offerer creates an initial offer, the =
offerer MUST associate
   an SDP 'floorctrl' attribute (Section 5) and an SDP 'bfcpver' attribute
   (Section 8) with the 'm' line.

And removing the = line about bfcpver from the bullet point list.

And for the answer section (13.2), move = the bfcpver bullet point to the first list.

Ultimately the bfcpver attribute is = informational; we do not specify any algorithms. Endpoints will decide = what version to use based on what is shared and thus what is known about = the peer=92s capabilities. But it would remove any ambiguity to have = this explicitly stated by both ends.

Regards,
Alan

On 27 Mar 2018, at 06:07, = Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote:

Hi,

There is a way to determine a default value of the attribute = is not present, so that is not a problem.

The question is whether the floor control server should = care about a value sent (either explicit or implicit default) by the = floor control client or not, or whether the only one sending a valid = value is the floor control server.

I am fine either way, but if both the client and server = send it we will need additional procedures. So, it would probably be = easiest to keep the text saying that only the server sends it.

Regards,

Christer 

Sent from my iPhone

On 27 Mar 2018, at 6.43, Charles Eckel = (eckelcu) <eckelcu@cisco.com> wrote:

(as an = individual)
 
Hi Christer,
 
The offer/answer language used for confid, = userid, and floorid, was used for bfcpver as well. I do not see any harm = in a floor control client including a bfcpver attribute in an SDP offer = or answer, but the draft is currently silent on this.
If I had it to do over, I would probably opt for being = explicit that the bfcpver attribute is required in all offers and = answers, but I do not think we can make that change now. The example is = okay as is. It would also be fine to remove the bfcpver attribute from = the answer in which he answerer is a client.
Alternatively, I suppose we could as that the bfcpver is = optional (i.e. MAY include) when acting as a floor control client. = Thoughts?
 
Charles
 
From: bfcpbis <bfcpbis-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Christer = Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
Date: Monday, March 26, 2018 = at 12:14 AM
To: "bfcpbis@ietf.org" <bfcpbis@ietf.org>
Subject: [bfcpbis] 4583bis: SDP = bfcpver attribute
 
Hi,
 
I would like to = clarify the usage of the SDP =91bfcpver' attribute.
 
According to the = procedures, the attribute is only inserted by the floor control server. = I double checked this in older versions of 4583bis. However, in the = examples of older versions the attribute is included in an SDP answer, = even if the answerer indicates that it will be floor control client.
 
So, what is the = correct way?
 
Regards,
 
Christer
 
 
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I think the intent= ion was for bfcpver to be > included in both; prior to Christer's recent clarification text this was = not so obvious with the way > the text flowed. Now it is, I think this needs correction. > > Changing text to support this would be simple, just changing in the offer= (13.1) section: > > When the offerer creates an initial offer, the offerer MUST associate > an SDP 'floorctrl' attribute (Section 5) with the 'm' line. > > To: > > When the offerer creates an initial offer, the offerer MUST associate > an SDP 'floorctrl' attribute (Section 5) and an SDP 'bfcpver' attribute > (Section 8) with the 'm' line. > > And removing the line about bfcpver from the bullet point list. > > And for the answer section (13.2), move the bfcpver bullet point to the f= irst list. > > Ultimately the bfcpver attribute is informational; we do not specify any = algorithms. Endpoints will > decide what version to use based on what is shared and thus what is known= about the peer's capabilities. > But it would remove any ambiguity to have this explicitly stated by both = ends. Regarding the algorithms, if the offerer indicates versions X, Y, Z, I thin= k the answerer has to indicate a subset of those - it the answerer does not= support any of the versions it should not accept the BFCP establishment. S= ure, we could allow the answerer to also include versions not included by t= he offerer, for endpoints must use versions that both endpoints have indica= ted support of. Regards, Christer On 27 Mar 2018, at 06:07, Christer Holmberg > wrote: Hi, There is a way to determine a default value of the attribute is not present= , so that is not a problem. The question is whether the floor control server should care about a value = sent (either explicit or implicit default) by the floor control client or n= ot, or whether the only one sending a valid value is the floor control serv= er. I am fine either way, but if both the client and server send it we will nee= d additional procedures. So, it would probably be easiest to keep the text = saying that only the server sends it. Regards, Christer Sent from my iPhone On 27 Mar 2018, at 6.43, Charles Eckel (eckelcu) > wrote: (as an individual) Hi Christer, The offer/answer language used for confid, userid, and floorid, was used fo= r bfcpver as well. I do not see any harm in a floor control client includin= g a bfcpver attribute in an SDP offer or answer, but the draft is currently= silent on this. If I had it to do over, I would probably opt for being explicit that the bf= cpver attribute is required in all offers and answers, but I do not think w= e can make that change now. The example is okay as is. It would also be fin= e to remove the bfcpver attribute from the answer in which he answerer is a= client. Alternatively, I suppose we could as that the bfcpver is optional (i.e. MAY= include) when acting as a floor control client. Thoughts? Charles From: bfcpbis > o= n behalf of Christer Holmberg > Date: Monday, March 26, 2018 at 12:14 AM To: "bfcpbis@ietf.org" > Subject: [bfcpbis] 4583bis: SDP bfcpver attribute Hi, I would like to clarify the usage of the SDP 'bfcpver' attribute. According to the procedures, the attribute is only inserted by the floor co= ntrol server. I double checked this in older versions of 4583bis. However, = in the examples of older versions the attribute is included in an SDP answe= r, even if the answerer indicates that it will be floor control client. So, what is the correct way? Regards, Christer _______________________________________________ bfcpbis mailing list bfcpbis@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bfcpbis --_000_7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B72EB0482ESESSMB109erics_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

 

> Apologies, for some reason I totally missed thi= s mail. I think the intention was for bfcpver to be
> included in both; prior to Christer’s recent clarification text = this was not so obvious with the way
> the text flowed. Now it is, I think this needs correction.<= /p>

> 

> Changing text to support this would be simple, = just changing in the offer (13.1) section:

> 

>   When the offerer creates an initial offer, the offere=
r MUST associate
>   an SDP 'floorctrl' attribute (Section 5) =
with the 'm' line.

> 

> To:

> 

>   When the offerer creates an initial offer, the offere=
r MUST associate
>   an SDP 'floorctrl' attribute (Section 5) =
and an SDP 'bfcpver' attribute
>   (Section 8) with the 'm' line.

> 

> And removing the line about bfcpver from the bu= llet point list.

> 

> And for the answer section (13.2), move the bfc= pver bullet point to the first list.

> 

> Ultimately the bfcpver attribute is information= al; we do not specify any algorithms. Endpoints will
> decide what version to use based on what is shared and thus what is kn= own about the peer’s capabilities.
> But it would remove any ambiguity to have this explicitly stated by bo= th ends.

 

Regarding the algorithms, if the offerer indicates = versions X, Y, Z, I think the answerer has to indicate a subset of those &#= 8211; it the answerer does not support any of the versions it should not accept the BFCP establishment. Sure, we could allow the answ= erer to also include versions not included by the offerer, for endpoints mu= st use versions that both endpoints have indicated support of.

 

Regards,

 

Christer

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 27 Mar 2018, at 06:07, Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.co= m> wrote:

 

Hi,

 

There is a way to determine a default value of the= attribute is not present, so that is not a problem.

 

The question is whether the floor control server s= hould care about a value sent (either explicit or implicit default) by the = floor control client or not, or whether the only one sending a valid value is the floor control server.

 

I am fine either way, but if both the client and s= erver send it we will need additional procedures. So, it would probably be = easiest to keep the text saying that only the server sends it.

 

Regards,

 

Christer =

Sent from my iPhone


On 27 Mar 2018, at 6.43, Charles Eckel (eckelcu) <eckelcu@cisco.com&g= t; wrote:

(as an individual)

 

Hi Christer,

 

The offer/answer language used for confid, userid, a= nd floorid, was used for bfcpver as well. I do not see any harm in a floor = control client including a bfcpver attribute in an SDP offer or answer, but= the draft is currently silent on this.

If I had it to do over, I would probably opt for bei= ng explicit that the bfcpver attribute is required in all offers and answer= s, but I do not think we can make that change now. The example is okay as i= s. It would also be fine to remove the bfcpver attribute from the answer in which he answerer is a client.

Alternatively, I suppose we could as that the bfcpve= r is optional (i.e. MAY include) when acting as a floor control client. Tho= ughts?

 

Charles

 

From: bfcpbis <bfc= pbis-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
Date: Monday, Marc= h 26, 2018 at 12:14 AM
To: "bfcpbis@ietf.org= " <bfcpbis@ietf.org>
Subject: [bfcpbis]= 4583bis: SDP bfcpver attribute

 

Hi,<= /o:p>

 

I would like to clarify the usage of the SDP ‘= ;bfcpver' attribute.

 

According to the procedures, the attribute is only = inserted by the floor control server. I double checked this in older versio= ns of 4583bis. However, in the examples of older versions the attribute is included in an SDP answer, even if the answerer = indicates that it will be floor control client.

 

So, what is the correct way?

 

Regards,

 

Christer

 

 

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Endpoints will=20 > > decide what version to use based on what is shared and thus what is = known about the peer=E2=80=99s capabilities.=20 > > But it would remove any ambiguity to have this explicitly stated by = both ends. > =20 > Regarding the algorithms, if the offerer indicates versions X, Y, Z, I = think the answerer has to indicate a subset of those =E2=80=93 it the = answerer does not support any of the versions it should not accept the = BFCP establishment. Sure, we could allow the answerer to also include = versions not included by the offerer, for endpoints must use versions = that both endpoints have indicated support of. We could specify that, but as you say, there is no harm in an endpoint = presenting more - the one which is used must be mutually supported. But = I have no problem adding that to the 13.2 list, in order words: o MUST associate a 'bfcpver' attribute with the 'm=E2=80=99 line, = containing a subset of the versions presented in the offer. Regards, Alan --Apple-Mail=_33782F22-BA0D-488B-ACDA-34F9BE2F8DA5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hi,

On 4 May 2018, at 09:06, = Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote:

> Ultimately the bfcpver = attribute is informational; we do not specify any algorithms. Endpoints = will 
> decide what version to use based on what is shared and = thus what is known about the peer=E2=80=99s capabilities. 
> But it = would remove any ambiguity to have this explicitly stated by both = ends.
 
Regarding the algorithms, = if the offerer indicates versions X, Y, Z, I think the answerer has to = indicate a subset of those =E2=80=93 it the answerer does not support = any of the versions it should not accept the BFCP establishment. Sure, = we could allow the answerer to also include versions not included by the = offerer, for endpoints must use versions that both endpoints have = indicated support of.

We could specify that, but as you say, there is no = harm in an endpoint presenting more - the one which is used must be = mutually supported. But I have no problem adding that to the 13.2 list, = in order words:

 o  MUST associate a 'bfcpver' attribute with the 'm=E2=80=99 line, =
containing a subset of the versions presented in the offer.

Regards,
Alan

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Charles? Regards, Christer From: Alan Ford > Date: Friday 4 May 2018 at 11:33 To: Christer Holmberg > Cc: Charles Eckel >, "bfcpbis@i= etf.org" > Subject: Re: [bfcpbis] 4583bis: SDP bfcpver attribute Hi, On 4 May 2018, at 09:06, Christer Holmberg > wrote: > Ultimately the bfcpver attribute is informational; we do not specify any = algorithms. Endpoints will > decide what version to use based on what is shared and thus what is known= about the peer=92s capabilities. > But it would remove any ambiguity to have this explicitly stated by both = ends. Regarding the algorithms, if the offerer indicates versions X, Y, Z, I thin= k the answerer has to indicate a subset of those =96 it the answerer does n= ot support any of the versions it should not accept the BFCP establishment.= Sure, we could allow the answerer to also include versions not included by= the offerer, for endpoints must use versions that both endpoints have indi= cated support of. We could specify that, but as you say, there is no harm in an endpoint pres= enting more - the one which is used must be mutually supported. But I have = no problem adding that to the 13.2 list, in order words: o MUST associate a 'bfcpver' attribute with the 'm=92 line, containing a = subset of the versions presented in the offer. Regards, Alan --_000_D71218B02F3C9christerholmbergericssoncom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: <18700B39FD425441AE60E9AA8D2E4B5D@ericsson.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

I can go other way, so I=92d like to hear what others think.

Charles?

Regards,

Christer


From: Alan Ford <alan.ford@gmail.com>
Date: Friday 4 May 2018 at 11:33 To: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
Cc: Charles Eckel <eckelcu@cisco.com>, "bfcpbis@ietf.org" <bfcpbis@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [bfcpbis] 4583bis: SDP= bfcpver attribute

Hi,

On 4 May 2018, at 09:06, Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson= .com> wrote:

> Ultimately the bfcpver att= ribute is informational; we do not specify any algorithms. Endpoints will 
> decide what version to use based on what is shared and thus what is kn= own about the peer=92s capabilities.&= nbsp;
> But it would remove any ambiguity to have this explicitly stated by bo= th ends.
 
Regarding the algorithms, if the offerer indicates versions X, Y, Z, I t= hink the answerer has to indicate a subset of those =96 it the answerer doe= s not support any of the versions it should not accept the BFCP establishment. Sure, we could allow the answerer to al= so include versions not included by the offerer, for endpoints must use ver= sions that both endpoints have indicated support of.

We could specify that, but as you say, there is no harm in an endpoint= presenting more - the one which is used must be mutually supported. But I = have no problem adding that to the 13.2 list, in order words:

 o =
 MUST associate a 'bfcpver' attribute with the 'm=92 line, containing a sub=
set of the versions presented in the offer.

Regards,
Alan

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Charles? Regards, Christer From: Alan Ford > Date: Friday 4 May 2018 at 11:33 To: Christer Holmberg > Cc: Charles Eckel >, "bfcpbis@i= etf.org" > Subject: Re: [bfcpbis] 4583bis: SDP bfcpver attribute Hi, On 4 May 2018, at 09:06, Christer Holmberg > wrote: > Ultimately the bfcpver attribute is informational; we do not specify any = algorithms. Endpoints will > decide what version to use based on what is shared and thus what is known= about the peer=92s capabilities. > But it would remove any ambiguity to have this explicitly stated by both = ends. Regarding the algorithms, if the offerer indicates versions X, Y, Z, I thin= k the answerer has to indicate a subset of those =96 it the answerer does n= ot support any of the versions it should not accept the BFCP establishment.= Sure, we could allow the answerer to also include versions not included by= the offerer, for endpoints must use versions that both endpoints have indi= cated support of. We could specify that, but as you say, there is no harm in an endpoint pres= enting more - the one which is used must be mutually supported. But I have = no problem adding that to the 13.2 list, in order words: o MUST associate a 'bfcpver' attribute with the 'm=92 line, containing a = subset of the versions presented in the offer. Regards, Alan --_000_D71234232F3DAchristerholmbergericssoncom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

I have created a pull request based on Alan=92s suggestion:


Regards,

Christer


From: bfcpbis <bfcpbis-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Ch= rister Holmberg <chris= ter.holmberg@ericsson.com>
Date: Friday 4 May 2018 at 14:01 To: Alan Ford <alan.ford@gmail.com>
Cc: "bfcpbis@ietf.org" <bfcpbis@ietf.org>, Charles Eckel <eckelcu@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [bfcpbis] 4583bis: SDP= bfcpver attribute


Hi,

I can go other way, so I=92d like to hear what others think.

Charles?

Regards,

Christer


From: Alan Ford <alan.ford@gmail.com>
Date: Friday 4 May 2018 at 11:33 To: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
Cc: Charles Eckel <eckelcu@cisco.com>, "bfcpbis@ietf.org" <bfcpbis@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [bfcpbis] 4583bis: SDP= bfcpver attribute

Hi,

On 4 May 2018, at 09:06, Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson= ..com> wrote:

> Ultimately the bfcpver att= ribute is informational; we do not specify any algorithms. Endpoints will 
> decide what version to use based on what is shared and thus what is kn= own about the peer=92s capabilities.&= nbsp;
> But it would remove any ambiguity to have this explicitly stated by bo= th ends.
 
Regarding the algorithms, if the offerer indicates versions X, Y, Z, I t= hink the answerer has to indicate a subset of those =96 it the answerer doe= s not support any of the versions it should not accept the BFCP establishment. Sure, we could allow the answerer to al= so include versions not included by the offerer, for endpoints must use ver= sions that both endpoints have indicated support of.

We could specify that, but as you say, there is no harm in an endpoint= presenting more - the one which is used must be mutually supported. But I = have no problem adding that to the 13.2 list, in order words:

 o =
 MUST associate a 'bfcpver' attribute with the 'm=92 line, containing a sub=
set of the versions presented in the offer.

Regards,
Alan

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This draft is a work item of the Binary Floor Control Protocol Bis WG of the IETF. Title : Session Description Protocol (SDP) Format for Binary Floor Control Protocol (BFCP) Streams Authors : Gonzalo Camarillo Tom Kristensen Christer Holmberg Filename : draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-23.txt Pages : 23 Date : 2018-05-21 Abstract: This document defines the Session Description Protocol (SDP) offer/ answer procedures for negotiating and establishing Binary Floor Control Protocol (BFCP) streams. This document obsoletes RFC 4583. Changes from RFC 4583 are summarized in Section 15. 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The following pull request was merged and implemented in the new version: https://github.com/cdh4u/draft-bfcp-4583bis/pull/7 Regards, Christer --_000_7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B72EFC4C7ESESSMB109erics_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

 

I have submitted a new version (-23) of draft-4583bi= s.

 

The following pull request was merged and implemente= d in the new version:

 

https://github.com/cdh4u/draft-bfcp-4583bis/pull/7

 

Regards,

 

Christer

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[143.159.177.160]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h7-v6sm2675973lja.93.2018.05.21.14.55.54 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 21 May 2018 14:55:55 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Alan Ford In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 22:55:53 +0100 Cc: "bfcpbis@ietf.org" , Paul Kyzivat , Gonzalo Camarillo , Roman Shpount , "Tom Kristensen (tomkrist)" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4D5033D0-D132-4DEC-BB6F-3190BAE0B184@gmail.com> References: <152693571549.23828.5670441744617994813@ietfa.amsl.com> To: "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [bfcpbis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-23.txt X-BeenThere: bfcpbis@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: BFCPBIS working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 21:56:00 -0000 Hi all, So this is quite a significant change from 4583; the attributes confid, = userid, floorid, and bfcpver have all changed from =E2=80=9Ctoken=E2=80=9D= to =E2=80=9CDIGIT=E2=80=9D. Only numeric values are now valid. In my = opinion this seems fine, since the relevant fields in the protocol are = defined as unsigned integers so in fact permitting tokens was not = appropriate in the first place. All these changes seem fine. Regards, Alan > On 21 May 2018, at 22:04, Charles Eckel (eckelcu) = wrote: >=20 > (As chair) >=20 > Hi Folks, >=20 > This version of the draft addresses comments provided by the SDP = directorate review (thanks Paul).=20 > It includes changes to the ABNF and corresponding editorial = clarifications. I realized only now that the working group was not = included in the discussion of these changes. Please review closely and = share your feedback with the list. Not much changed but it is critical = that we got the changes right. >=20 > Thanks, > Charles >=20 >=20 > =EF=BB=BF-----Original Message----- > From: bfcpbis on behalf of = "internet-drafts@ietf.org" > Date: Monday, May 21, 2018 at 1:48 PM > To: "i-d-announce@ietf.org" > Cc: "bfcpbis@ietf.org" > Subject: [bfcpbis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-23.txt >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts = directories. > This draft is a work item of the Binary Floor Control Protocol Bis = WG of the IETF. >=20 > Title : Session Description Protocol (SDP) Format = for Binary Floor Control Protocol (BFCP) Streams > Authors : Gonzalo Camarillo > Tom Kristensen > Christer Holmberg > Filename : draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-23.txt > Pages : 23 > Date : 2018-05-21 >=20 > Abstract: > This document defines the Session Description Protocol (SDP) = offer/ > answer procedures for negotiating and establishing Binary Floor > Control Protocol (BFCP) streams. >=20 > This document obsoletes RFC 4583. Changes from RFC 4583 are > summarized in Section 15. >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis/ >=20 > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-23 > = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-23 >=20 > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-23 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at = tools.ietf.org. >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > bfcpbis mailing list > bfcpbis@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bfcpbis >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > bfcpbis mailing list > 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Archived-At: Subject: Re: [bfcpbis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-23.txt X-BeenThere: bfcpbis@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: BFCPBIS working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 16:01:41 -0000 Hi Charles, I have already gotten back to Mary. Thanks! Cheers, Gonzalo On 25/05/2018 4:51 PM, Charles Eckel (eckelcu) wrote: > Hi Christer, > > I agree that the draft is ready to move forward. Mary is the document shepherd and is working on the write-up. Last I checked, she was still waiting for confirmation from your co-authors that any and all appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. Tom and Gonzalo, please get back to Mary on this as soon as possible. > > Cheers, > Charles > > -----Original Message----- > From: Christer Holmberg > Date: Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 4:42 AM > To: Alan Ford , Charles Eckel > Cc: Roman Shpount , "bfcpbis@ietf.org" , Gonzalo Camarillo , Paul Kyzivat , Tom Kristensen > Subject: RE: [bfcpbis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-23.txt > > Thanks! So, I guess we can ship the document :) > > Regards, > > Christer > > -----Original Message----- > From: bfcpbis [mailto:bfcpbis-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alan Ford > Sent: 21 May 2018 23:56 > To: Charles Eckel (eckelcu) > Cc: Roman Shpount ; bfcpbis@ietf.org; Gonzalo Camarillo ; Paul Kyzivat ; Tom Kristensen (tomkrist) > Subject: Re: [bfcpbis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-23.txt > > Hi all, > > So this is quite a significant change from 4583; the attributes confid, userid, floorid, and bfcpver have all changed from “token” to “DIGIT”. Only numeric values are now valid. In my opinion this seems fine, since the relevant fields in the protocol are defined as unsigned integers so in fact permitting tokens was not appropriate in the first place. > > All these changes seem fine. > > Regards, > Alan > > > On 21 May 2018, at 22:04, Charles Eckel (eckelcu) wrote: > > > > (As chair) > > > > Hi Folks, > > > > This version of the draft addresses comments provided by the SDP directorate review (thanks Paul). > > It includes changes to the ABNF and corresponding editorial clarifications. I realized only now that the working group was not included in the discussion of these changes. Please review closely and share your feedback with the list. Not much changed but it is critical that we got the changes right. > > > > Thanks, > > Charles > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: bfcpbis on behalf of "internet-drafts@ietf.org" > > Date: Monday, May 21, 2018 at 1:48 PM > > To: "i-d-announce@ietf.org" > > Cc: "bfcpbis@ietf.org" > > Subject: [bfcpbis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-23.txt > > > > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > > This draft is a work item of the Binary Floor Control Protocol Bis WG of the IETF. > > > > Title : Session Description Protocol (SDP) Format for Binary Floor Control Protocol (BFCP) Streams > > Authors : Gonzalo Camarillo > > Tom Kristensen > > Christer Holmberg > > Filename : draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-23.txt > > Pages : 23 > > Date : 2018-05-21 > > > > Abstract: > > This document defines the Session Description Protocol (SDP) offer/ > > answer procedures for negotiating and establishing Binary Floor > > Control Protocol (BFCP) streams. > > > > This document obsoletes RFC 4583. Changes from RFC 4583 are > > summarized in Section 15. > > > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis/ > > > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-23 > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-23 > > > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-23 > > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > bfcpbis mailing list > > bfcpbis@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bfcpbis > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > bfcpbis mailing list > > bfcpbis@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bfcpbis > > _______________________________________________ > bfcpbis mailing list > bfcpbis@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bfcpbis > > From nobody Tue May 29 13:24:36 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bfcpbis@ietf.org Delivered-To: bfcpbis@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 268DE12EB48; Tue, 29 May 2018 13:24:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Meeting Session Request Tool To: Cc: bfcpbis@ietf.org, adam@nostrum.com, eckelcu@cisco.com, bfcpbis-chairs@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.81.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152762547214.30080.9677261267678253783.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 13:24:32 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [bfcpbis] bfcpbis - Not having a session at IETF 102 X-BeenThere: bfcpbis@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: BFCPBIS working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2018 20:24:33 -0000 Charles Eckel, a chair of the bfcpbis working group, indicated that the bfcpbis working group does not plan to hold a session at IETF 102. 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On 25/05/18 19:01, "Gonzalo Camarillo" wrote: >Hi Charles, > >I have already gotten back to Mary. Thanks! > >Cheers, > >Gonzalo > >On 25/05/2018 4:51 PM, Charles Eckel (eckelcu) wrote: >> Hi Christer, >>=20 >> I agree that the draft is ready to move forward. Mary is the document >>shepherd and is working on the write-up. Last I checked, she was still >>waiting for confirmation from your co-authors that any and all >>appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the >>provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79 have already been filed. Tom and >>Gonzalo, please get back to Mary on this as soon as possible. >>=20 >> Cheers, >> Charles >>=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Christer Holmberg >> Date: Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 4:42 AM >> To: Alan Ford , Charles Eckel >> Cc: Roman Shpount , "bfcpbis@ietf.org" >>, Gonzalo Camarillo , >>Paul Kyzivat , Tom Kristensen >> Subject: RE: [bfcpbis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-23.txt >>=20 >> Thanks! So, I guess we can ship the document :) >> =20 >> Regards, >> =20 >> Christer >> =20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bfcpbis [mailto:bfcpbis-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alan >>Ford >> Sent: 21 May 2018 23:56 >> To: Charles Eckel (eckelcu) >> Cc: Roman Shpount ; bfcpbis@ietf.org; Gonzalo >>Camarillo ; Paul Kyzivat >>; Tom Kristensen (tomkrist) >> Subject: Re: [bfcpbis] I-D Action: >>draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-23.txt >> =20 >> Hi all, >> =20 >> So this is quite a significant change from 4583; the attributes >>confid, userid, floorid, and bfcpver have all changed from =B3token=B2 to >>=B3DIGIT=B2. Only numeric values are now valid. In my opinion this seems >>fine, since the relevant fields in the protocol are defined as unsigned >>integers so in fact permitting tokens was not appropriate in the first >>place. >> =20 >> All these changes seem fine. >> =20 >> Regards, >> Alan >> =20 >> > On 21 May 2018, at 22:04, Charles Eckel (eckelcu) >> wrote: >> >=20 >> > (As chair) >> >=20 >> > Hi Folks, >> >=20 >> > This version of the draft addresses comments provided by the SDP >>directorate review (thanks Paul). >> > It includes changes to the ABNF and corresponding editorial >>clarifications. I realized only now that the working group was not >>included in the discussion of these changes. Please review closely and >>share your feedback with the list. Not much changed but it is critical >>that we got the changes right. >> >=20 >> > Thanks, >> > Charles >> >=20 >> >=20 >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: bfcpbis on behalf of >>"internet-drafts@ietf.org" >> > Date: Monday, May 21, 2018 at 1:48 PM >> > To: "i-d-announce@ietf.org" >> > Cc: "bfcpbis@ietf.org" >> > Subject: [bfcpbis] I-D Action: >>draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-23.txt >> >=20 >> >=20 >> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line >>Internet-Drafts directories. >> > This draft is a work item of the Binary Floor Control Protocol >>Bis WG of the IETF. >> >=20 >> > Title : Session Description Protocol (SDP) >>Format for Binary Floor Control Protocol (BFCP) Streams >> > Authors : Gonzalo Camarillo >> > Tom Kristensen >> > Christer Holmberg >> > Filename : draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-23.txt >> > Pages : 23 >> > Date : 2018-05-21 >> >=20 >> > Abstract: >> > This document defines the Session Description Protocol >>(SDP) offer/ >> > answer procedures for negotiating and establishing Binary >>Floor >> > Control Protocol (BFCP) streams. >> >=20 >> > This document obsoletes RFC 4583. Changes from RFC 4583 are >> > summarized in Section 15. >> >=20 >> >=20 >> > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis/ >> >=20 >> > There are also htmlized versions available at: >> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-23 >> > =20 >>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-23 >> >=20 >> > A diff from the previous version is available at: >> > =20 >>https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-bfcpbis-rfc4583bis-23 >> >=20 >> >=20 >> > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time >>of submission >> > until the htmlized version and diff are available at >>tools.ietf.org. >> >=20 >> > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >> >=20 >> > _______________________________________________ >> > bfcpbis mailing list >> > bfcpbis@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bfcpbis >> >=20 >> >=20 >> > _______________________________________________ >> > bfcpbis mailing list >> > bfcpbis@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bfcpbis >> =20 >> _______________________________________________ >> bfcpbis mailing list >> bfcpbis@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bfcpbis >> =20 >>=20