From 558-mailing-list-admin@catarina.usc.edu Sun Jun 1 08:02:08 2003 Received: from catarina.usc.edu (catarina.usc.edu [204.57.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA05164 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 08:02:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from catarina.usc.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by catarina.usc.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h51C1aX17271 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 05:01:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from 558-mailing-list-admin@catarina.usc.edu) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 05:01:36 -0700 Message-ID: <20030601120136.16703.53316.Mailman@catarina.usc.edu> Subject: catarina.usc.edu mailing list memberships reminder From: mailman-owner@catarina.usc.edu To: bgmp-archive@ietf.org X-No-Archive: yes X-Ack: no Sender: 558-mailing-list-admin@catarina.usc.edu Errors-To: 558-mailing-list-admin@catarina.usc.edu X-BeenThere: 558-mailing-list@catarina.usc.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk This is a reminder, sent out once a month, about your catarina.usc.edu mailing list memberships. 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This draft is a work item of the Border Gateway Multicast Protocol Working Group of the IETF. Title : Border Gateway Multicast Protocol (BGMP): Protocol Specification Author(s) : D. Thaler Filename : draft-ietf-bgmp-spec-05.txt Pages : 44 Date : 2003-6-6 This document describes BGMP, a protocol for inter-domain multicast routing. BGMP builds shared trees for active multicast groups, and optionally allows receiver domains to build source-specific, inter- domain, distribution branches where needed. BGMP natively supports 'source-specific multicast' (SSM). To also support 'any-source multicast' (ASM), BGMP requires that each multicast group be associated with a single root (in BGMP it is referred to as the root domain). It requires that different ranges of the class D space are associated (e.g., with Unicast-Prefix-Based Multicast addressing) with different domains. Each of these domains then becomes the root of the shared domain-trees for all groups in its range. 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Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2003-6-6133010.I-D@ietf.org> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-bgmp-spec-05.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-bgmp-spec-05.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2003-6-6133010.I-D@ietf.org> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- _______________________________________________ bgmp mailing list bgmp@catarina.usc.edu http://catarina.usc.edu/mailman/listinfo/bgmp From bgmp-admin@catarina.usc.edu Mon Jun 9 18:24:02 2003 Received: from catarina.usc.edu (catarina.usc.edu [204.57.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA23879 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2003 18:24:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from catarina.usc.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by catarina.usc.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h59MMhX19824; Mon, 9 Jun 2003 15:22:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bgmp-admin@catarina.usc.edu) Received: from possum.icir.org (possum.icir.org [192.150.187.67]) by catarina.usc.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h59MLxX19803 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2003 15:21:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pavlin@possum.icir.org) Received: from possum.icir.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by possum.icir.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h59MLxsC079537 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2003 15:21:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pavlin@possum.icir.org) Message-Id: <200306092221.h59MLxsC079537@possum.icir.org> To: bgmp@catarina.usc.edu From: Pavlin Radoslavov Subject: [bgmp] A note in draft-ietf-bgmp-spec-05.txt Sender: bgmp-admin@catarina.usc.edu Errors-To: bgmp-admin@catarina.usc.edu X-BeenThere: bgmp@catarina.usc.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 15:21:59 -0700 Dave (and everybody else who may have info on the subject), I was looking into the difference between version 04 and 05 of the BGMP I-D, and the difference is the following note (right after the abstract) that has been added to version 05: NOTE: This specification is published for the general information of the Internet technical community and as an archival record of the work done. The operational community generally agrees that this protocol is not deployable in its current form; it is being published in the hopes that it may provide a useful starting point for future work. I'd like to know what are the deployment issues in BGMP the operational community has pointed out (e.g., is there a published document that describes the issues), and when/where this agreement has been reached. Thanks, Pavlin _______________________________________________ bgmp mailing list bgmp@catarina.usc.edu http://catarina.usc.edu/mailman/listinfo/bgmp From bgmp-admin@catarina.usc.edu Wed Jun 11 12:05:25 2003 Received: from catarina.usc.edu (catarina.usc.edu [204.57.0.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA15400 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 12:05:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from catarina.usc.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by catarina.usc.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5BG0LX63080; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:00:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bgmp-admin@catarina.usc.edu) Received: from linux.research.att.com (H-135-207-24-16.research.att.com [135.207.24.16]) by catarina.usc.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5BFvQX62994 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:57:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fenner@research.att.com) Received: from unixmail.research.att.com (unixmail.research.att.com [135.207.26.71]) by linux.research.att.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h5BG2sEI001595; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 12:02:54 -0400 Received: from windsor.research.att.com (windsor.research.att.com [135.207.26.46]) by unixmail.research.att.com (8.12.8+Sun/8.8.7) with ESMTP id h5BFtlXs011829; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 11:55:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fenner Received: (from fenner@localhost) by windsor.research.att.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.8.5) id h5BFvKL21247; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200306111557.h5BFvKL21247@windsor.research.att.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII To: pavlin@icir.org Subject: Re: [bgmp] A note in draft-ietf-bgmp-spec-05.txt Cc: bgmp@catarina.usc.edu Versions: dmail (solaris) 2.5a/makemail 2.9d Sender: bgmp-admin@catarina.usc.edu Errors-To: bgmp-admin@catarina.usc.edu X-BeenThere: bgmp@catarina.usc.edu X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:57:19 -0700 Pavlin, Thanks for pointing that out. I guess the comment addition was out of phase with the state of the document -- the G-RIB was the real problem that nobody liked as far as I can remember. You're right that there's no writeup of what's wrong; I don't think anyone who pointed out problems has revisited the architecture since the removal of the G-RIB. Bill _______________________________________________ bgmp mailing list bgmp@catarina.usc.edu http://catarina.usc.edu/mailman/listinfo/bgmp