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I drafted the following; comments are appreciated. NOTE: This specification is published for the general information of the Internet technical community and as an archival record of the work done. Although the working group had consensus on this document, there was insufficient interest from the operational and vendor community to develop an implementation, which is a requirement for a routing protocol to enter the standards track. Thanks, Bill _______________________________________________ bgmp mailing list bgmp@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bgmp From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Feb 12 19:33:09 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA28236 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:33:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ArRG5-0006CM-Uw for bgmp-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:32:42 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i1D0Wfmn023822 for bgmp-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:32:41 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ArRG5-0006C9-Q5 for bgmp-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:32:41 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA28209 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:32:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ArRG2-0002uS-00 for bgmp-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:32:38 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1ArRF1-0002nc-00 for bgmp-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:31:36 -0500 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ArRET-0002hm-00 for bgmp-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:31:01 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ArRET-00064E-KY; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:31:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1ArRE7-00062l-Dq for bgmp@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:30:39 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA28142 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:30:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ArRE3-0002gW-00 for bgmp@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:30:35 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1ArRDC-0002bR-00 for bgmp@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:29:43 -0500 Received: from mail2.microsoft.com ([131.107.3.124]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ArRCS-0002Sn-00 for bgmp@ietf.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:28:56 -0500 Received: from INET-VRS-02.redmond.corp.microsoft.com ([157.54.8.110]) by mail2.microsoft.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1041); Thu, 12 Feb 2004 16:30:21 -0800 Received: from 157.54.8.23 by INET-VRS-02.redmond.corp.microsoft.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 12 Feb 2004 16:28:25 -0800 Received: from RED-IMC-04.redmond.corp.microsoft.com ([157.54.2.168]) by inet-hub-01.redmond.corp.microsoft.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Thu, 12 Feb 2004 16:28:24 -0800 Received: from win-imc-01.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com ([157.54.0.39]) by RED-IMC-04.redmond.corp.microsoft.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Thu, 12 Feb 2004 16:28:33 -0800 Received: from WIN-MSG-10.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com ([157.54.12.81]) by win-imc-01.wingroup.windeploy.ntdev.microsoft.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1069); Thu, 12 Feb 2004 16:28:28 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7165.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 16:28:45 -0800 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Note for draft-ietf-bgmp-spec Thread-Index: AcPxvEnLK4yeqPMSTDej2JMrqHon8AACxZzg From: "Dave Thaler" To: "Bill Fenner" Cc: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Feb 2004 00:28:28.0198 (UTC) FILETIME=[4CDF9460:01C3F1C8] Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [bgmp] RE: Note for draft-ietf-bgmp-spec Sender: bgmp-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: bgmp-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: bgmp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Border Gateway Multicast Protocol List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just now re-read RFC 2026 sections 4.2.1 and 4.2.2 and believe that Experimental is more in the spirit of the text of the NOTE you propose (which I have no problem with). The same reason below also applies to other protocols, such as the original PIM-SM and MASC, which both went to Experimental instead of Informational. -Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Fenner [mailto:fenner@research.att.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 3:02 PM > To: bgmp@ietf.org > Cc: Dave Thaler > Subject: Note for draft-ietf-bgmp-spec >=20 >=20 > Folks, >=20 > The IESG approved draft-ietf-bgmp-spec, with a request for a note > describing why it's going for informational instead of standards track. > I drafted the following; comments are appreciated. >=20 >=20 > NOTE: > This specification is published for the general information of the > Internet technical community and as an archival record of the work > done. Although the working group had consensus on this document, > there was insufficient interest from the operational and vendor > community to develop an implementation, which is a requirement for > a routing protocol to enter the standards track. >=20 >=20 > Thanks, > Bill _______________________________________________ bgmp mailing list bgmp@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bgmp From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Feb 17 03:33:40 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA16642 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 03:33:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1At0fH-0004zy-7N for bgmp-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 03:33:11 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i1H8XBL2019208 for bgmp-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 03:33:11 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1At0fG-0004zj-RE for bgmp-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 03:33:10 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA16582 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 03:33:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1At0fE-0001gm-00 for bgmp-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 03:33:08 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1At0eR-0001Zl-00 for bgmp-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 03:32:20 -0500 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1At0dH-0001TX-00 for bgmp-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 03:31:07 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1At0dC-0004cP-S7; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 03:31:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1At0d2-0004bg-7V for bgmp@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 03:30:52 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA16477 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 03:30:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1At0cz-0001RW-00 for bgmp@ietf.org; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 03:30:50 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1At0c1-0001Ni-00 for bgmp@ietf.org; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 03:29:50 -0500 Received: from cosmos.kaist.ac.kr ([192.249.24.2]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1At0b3-0001Ji-00 for bgmp@ietf.org; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 03:28:49 -0500 Received: from cosmos.kaist.ac.kr (localhost.kaist.ac.kr [127.0.0.1]) by cosmos.kaist.ac.kr (8.12.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id i1H8EFSD002926; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:14:15 +0900 (KST) Received: (from hkpark@localhost) by cosmos.kaist.ac.kr (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id i1H8EEw5002925; Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:14:15 +0900 (KST) (envelope-from hkpark) Message-ID: <20040217171414.C2599@cosmos.kaist.ac.kr> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:14:14 +0900 From: Heonkyu Park To: bgmp@ietf.org Cc: Heonkyu Park Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i Subject: [bgmp] unscribe this maillist Sender: bgmp-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: bgmp-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: bgmp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Border Gateway Multicast Protocol List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.60 unscribe this maillist, thank you. _______________________________________________ bgmp mailing list bgmp@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bgmp