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I understand that first we perhaps need to agree on requirements. Some of them are listed in the below documents. Perhaps few of them are missing. IMO we should also agree first on decoupling BGP in WAN and IX automated session setup from Data Centers. While on the surface they may look the same "Oh I just want my BGP to come up" if you look under the hood and say compare iBGP vs eBGP via L2 switch vs eBGP via p2p link they are really different animals in the same garden. Thx, R. ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Robert Raszuk Date: Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 8:24 PM Subject: BGP Auto Discovery and BGP Auto Session Setup To: idr@ietf. org Cc: grow@ietf.org grow@ietf.org Dear WG, We have seen formation of BGP Autodiscovery WG followed by total silence. Well maybe group is live just not everyone got onto its private list :) Regardless of this I refreshed and resubmitted two proposals in this very space. 1. BGP Auto Discovery https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raszuk-idr-bgp-auto-discovery-06 and 2. BGP Automated Session Setup https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raszuk-idr-bgp-auto-session-setup-01 *Ad 1:* First document is focused on WAN and IX scenario where establishing full mesh of IBGP or selected eBGP peering can automate the operational management tasks or if run in informational mode could validate NMS session setup correctness. Original proposal was presented many years ago in Vienna and at that point suggested extension to IGPs to flood discovery information for IBGP auto mesh. Later based on the input and discussions with Pedro the proposal got simplified to use classic Route Reflector as bootstrap node (info broker). Last input from Jon and Warren added the ability to also automate setup of eBGP sessions in selected scenarios. Since then the document was shelved for some time waiting for IDR WG turn to deal with discovery topic. So here we are. *Ad 2: * The second document first published in July 2018 provides a very trivial to implement mechanism (without even changing BGP state machine) to automatically establish common LAN or p2p interfaces BGP sessions. Typical use case would be Clos DC fabrics, customer PE-CE LANs, TORs to Compute Nodes etc ... Comments, questions, feedback on both proposals all very welcome. Kind regards, Robert. --00000000000036791b059d4c3480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,

Let me see if the list works :)= =C2=A0

Resending for the record two proposals in t= he BGP autodiscovery space.=C2=A0

I understand=C2= =A0that first we perhaps need to agree on requirements. Some of them are li= sted in the below documents. Perhaps few of them are missing.=C2=A0

IMO we should also agree=C2=A0first on decoupling BGP in = WAN and IX automated session setup from Data Centers. While on the surface = they may look the same "Oh I just want my BGP to come up" if you = look under the hood and say compare iBGP vs eBGP via L2 switch vs eBGP via = p2p link they are really different animals in the same garden.
Thx,
R.


---------- Forwarded message ---------
F= rom: Robert Raszuk= <robert@raszuk.= net>
Date: Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 8:24 PM
Subject: BGP Au= to Discovery and BGP Auto Session Setup
To: idr@ietf. org <idr@ietf.org>
Cc: grow@ietf.org grow@ietf.org <grow@ietf.org>

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Dear WG,

We have seen formation of B= GP Autodiscovery WG followed by total silence. Well maybe group is=C2=A0
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Regardless of this I refreshed and resubmitted two proposal= s in this very space.=C2=A0

1. BGP Auto Discovery
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Comments, questions, feedb=
ack on both proposals all very welcome. 

Kind regards,

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charset=US-ASCII Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Bgp-autoconf] Fwd: BGP Auto Discovery and BGP Auto Session Setup X-BeenThere: bgp-autoconf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: BGP autoconfiguration design team discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 03:58:47 -0000 actually, i have tried to start a biblio. so far, i have these drafts: raft-raszuk-idr-ibgp-auto-mesh-00 draft-wkumari-idr-socialite-02 both above might have merged into draft-raszuk-idr-bgp-auto-discovery-06 draft-raszuk-idr-bgp-auto-session-setup-01 draft-xu-idr-neighbor-autodiscovery-12.txt draft-ymbk-lsvr-l3dl-ulpc-02.txt i would be interested in other drafts, or maybe even if there have been research or measurement papers in the area randy From nobody Wed Jan 29 23:34:35 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bgp-autoconf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bgp-autoconf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E49191200C3 for ; 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Thu, 30 Jan 2020 00:33:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Robert Raszuk Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 09:33:08 +0100 Message-ID: To: Randy Bush Cc: bgp-autoconf@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002d2ed5059d574f91" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Bgp-autoconf] Fwd: BGP Auto Discovery and BGP Auto Session Setup X-BeenThere: bgp-autoconf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: BGP autoconfiguration design team discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 08:33:23 -0000 --0000000000002d2ed5059d574f91 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > draft-raszuk-idr-ibgp-auto-mesh-00 > draft-wkumari-idr-socialite-02 > > both above might have merged into > draft-raszuk-idr-bgp-auto-discovery-06 > To be very precise the latest draft draft-raszuk-idr-bgp-auto-discovery-06 is a merge of draft-raszuk-idr-bgp-auto-discovery-00 & draft-wkumari-idr-socialite-02 + later additions by Jon for the IX cases. And just so we have all history in one place in early 2003 I started with proposal to discover iBGP peers via ISIS & OSPF flooding extensions as a package with original draft-raszuk-idr-ibgp-auto-mesh-00: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raszuk-isis-peer-discovery-00 https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raszuk-ospf-bgp-peer-discovery-00 Of course this is not that I intend to respin those ... from now on in the WAN/IX space what matters is the latest: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raszuk-idr-bgp-auto-discovery-06 Thx, R. draft-raszuk-idr-bgp-auto-session-setup-01 > > draft-xu-idr-neighbor-autodiscovery-12.txt > > draft-ymbk-lsvr-l3dl-ulpc-02.txt > > i would be interested in other drafts, or maybe even if there have been > research or measurement papers in the area > > randy > > -- > Bgp-autoconf mailing list > Bgp-autoconf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bgp-autoconf > --0000000000002d2ed5059d574f91 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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And just so we have all histor= y in one place in early 2003 I started with proposal to discover iBGP peers= via ISIS & OSPF flooding extensions as a package with original draft-r= aszuk-idr-ibgp-auto-mesh-00:=C2=A0


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([2a05:f8c0:2:83ff:34cf:a40d:98a9:845c]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t13sm5985894wrw.19.2020.01.30.03.09.06 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 30 Jan 2020 03:09:06 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-82ACB554-417D-4F4E-A9BC-F9A92C93AE1F Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeff Tantsura Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 12:09:06 +0100 Message-Id: <2EC7DA29-2FFC-4A9C-AF5A-6EE7F07D21D0@gmail.com> References: Cc: bgp-autoconf@ietf.org In-Reply-To: To: Robert Raszuk X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (17C54) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Bgp-autoconf] Fwd: BGP Auto Discovery and BGP Auto Session Setup X-BeenThere: bgp-autoconf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: BGP autoconfiguration design team discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 11:09:11 -0000 --Apple-Mail-82ACB554-417D-4F4E-A9BC-F9A92C93AE1F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Robert, To my feeling we have already agreed to treat them separately? Regards, Jeff > On Jan 29, 2020, at 20:18, Robert Raszuk wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF > Hello, >=20 > Let me see if the list works :)=20 >=20 > Resending for the record two proposals in the BGP autodiscovery space.=20 >=20 > I understand that first we perhaps need to agree on requirements. Some of t= hem are listed in the below documents. Perhaps few of them are missing.=20 >=20 > IMO we should also agree first on decoupling BGP in WAN and IX automated s= ession setup from Data Centers. While on the surface they may look the same "= Oh I just want my BGP to come up" if you look under the hood and say compare= iBGP vs eBGP via L2 switch vs eBGP via p2p link they are really different a= nimals in the same garden. >=20 > Thx, > R. >=20 >=20 > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Robert Raszuk > Date: Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 8:24 PM > Subject: BGP Auto Discovery and BGP Auto Session Setup > To: idr@ietf. org > Cc: grow@ietf.org grow@ietf.org >=20 >=20 > Dear WG, >=20 > We have seen formation of BGP Autodiscovery WG followed by total silence. W= ell maybe group is=20 > live just not everyone got onto its private list :)=20 >=20 > Regardless of this I refreshed and resubmitted two proposals in this very s= pace.=20 >=20 > 1. BGP Auto Discovery > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raszuk-idr-bgp-auto-discovery-06 >=20 > and=20 >=20 > 2. BGP Automated Session Setup > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raszuk-idr-bgp-auto-session-setup-01 >=20 > Ad 1: >=20 > First document is focused on WAN and IX scenario where establishing full m= esh of IBGP or=20 > selected eBGP peering can automate the operational management tasks or if r= un in informational=20 > mode could validate NMS session setup correctness.=20 >=20 > Original proposal was presented many years ago in Vienna and at that point= suggested extension to=20 > IGPs to flood discovery information for IBGP auto mesh. Later based on the= input and discussions with=20 > Pedro the proposal got simplified to use classic Route Reflector as bootst= rap node (info broker).=20 >=20 > Last input from Jon and Warren added the ability to also automate setup of= eBGP sessions in selected=20 > scenarios.=20 >=20 > Since then the document was shelved for some time waiting for IDR WG turn t= o deal with discovery topic.=20 >=20 > So here we are.=20 >=20 > Ad 2:=20 >=20 > The second document first published in July 2018 provides a very trivial t= o implement mechanism (without=20 > even changing BGP state machine) to automatically establish common LAN or p= 2p interfaces BGP sessions.=20 >=20 > Typical use case would be Clos DC fabrics, customer PE-CE LANs, TORs to Co= mpute Nodes etc ...=20 >=20 > Comments, questions, feedback on both proposals all very welcome.=20 >=20 > Kind regards, > Robert. >=20 > --=20 > Bgp-autoconf mailing list > Bgp-autoconf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bgp-autoconf --Apple-Mail-82ACB554-417D-4F4E-A9BC-F9A92C93AE1F Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Robert,

To my feeling= we have already agreed to treat them separately?

Re= gards,
Jeff

On= Jan 29, 2020, at 20:18, Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> wrote:
<= br>
=EF=BB=BFHello,

Let me see if the list works :)&nbs= p;

Resending for the record two proposals in the BG= P autodiscovery space. 

I understand that= first we perhaps need to agree on requirements. Some of them are listed in t= he below documents. Perhaps few of them are missing. 

IMO we should also agree first on decoupling BGP in WAN and IX a= utomated session setup from Data Centers. While on the surface they may look= the same "Oh I just want my BGP to come up" if you look under the hood and s= ay compare iBGP vs eBGP via L2 switch vs eBGP via p2p link they are really d= ifferent animals in the same garden.

Thx,
R.


---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>
Date: Wed= , Dec 11, 2019 at 8:24 PM
Subject: BGP Auto Discovery and BGP Auto Sessio= n Setup
To: idr@ietf. org <idr@ietf.or= g>
Cc: grow@ietf.org grow@ietf.org <grow@ietf.org>


Dear WG,

<= /div>
We have seen formation of BGP Autodiscovery WG followed by total s= ilence. Well maybe group is 
live just not everyone got onto i= ts private list :) 

Regardless of this I refre= shed and resubmitted two proposals in this very space. 

<= /div>
1. BGP Auto Discovery
https:=
//tools.ietf.org/html/draft-raszuk-idr-bgp-auto-discovery-06


and 

2. BGP Automated Session Setup
https://tools.iet=
f.org/html/draft-raszuk-idr-bgp-auto-session-setup-01
<=
pre style=3D"font-size:13.3333px;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;color:rgb(=
0,0,0)">
Ad 1:

First document is focused on WAN and IX scenari=
o where establishing full mesh of IBGP or 
sel=
ected eBGP peering can automate the operational management tasks or if run i=
n informational 
mode could validate NMS sessi=
on setup correctness. 

Original proposal was presented many years ago in Vienna and at t=
hat point suggested extension to 
IGPs to floo=
d discovery information for IBGP auto mesh. Later based on the input and dis=
cussions with 
Pedro the proposal got simplifi=
ed to use classic Route Reflector as bootstrap node (info broker). 

Last input from Jon a=
nd Warren added the ability to also automate setup of eBGP sessions in selec=
ted 
scenarios. 
<=
span style=3D"display:inline;font-size:1em">
Since then the document was shelved for s=
ome time waiting for IDR WG turn to deal with discovery topic. 

So here we are. =


Ad 2: <=
/b>

The sec=
ond document first published in July 2018 provides a very trivial to impleme=
nt mechanism (without 
even changing BG=
P state machine) to automatically establish common LAN or p2p interfaces BGP=
 sessions. 

Typical use case would be C=
los DC fabrics, customer PE-CE LANs, TORs to Compute Nodes etc ... 

Comments, questions, feedback on both proposals=
 all very welcome. 
Kind regards,
Robert.

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>=C2=A0 To my feel= ing we have already agreed to treat them separately?=C2=A0=C2=A0
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Cool - then we accomplished first design team milestone :)= =C2=A0

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 1:12 PM Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
A statement with a question = mark ;-)
To rephrase - I think we have already agreed.

Regards,
Jeff

> On Jan 30, 2020, at 13:08, Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
>
> >=C2=A0 To my feeling we have already agreed to treat them separate= ly?=C2=A0
>
> Is that a question or a statement ?
>
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quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Bgp-autoconf] Fwd: BGP Auto Discovery and BGP Auto Session Setup X-BeenThere: bgp-autoconf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: BGP autoconfiguration design team discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2020 06:25:47 -0000 Hi Randy,=20 Thanks for tracking this.=20 There is one draft which was missed in this list: draft-acee-idr-lldp-peer-= discovery-06 Best regards, Jie > -----Original Message----- > From: Bgp-autoconf [mailto:bgp-autoconf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Randy Bush > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 12:53 AM > To: Robert Raszuk > Cc: bgp-autoconf@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Bgp-autoconf] Fwd: BGP Auto Discovery and BGP Auto Session > Setup >=20 > i am tracking the biblio in >=20 > https://git.rg.net/randy/randy/src/master/bgp-autodiscovery.md >=20 > randy >=20 > -- > Bgp-autoconf 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