From nobody Mon Aug 1 08:24:53 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bier@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bier@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD2E12DC42 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2016 08:24:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iRgUW20EDLML for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2016 08:24:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qk0-x232.google.com (mail-qk0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F32A112DC2E for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2016 08:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qk0-x232.google.com with SMTP id p186so22693840qkd.1 for ; Mon, 01 Aug 2016 08:24:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=X1y9eS/2J6jR4P1MkvkgAedVvqg7dgQ5jCsfFFrvIKA=; b=BMY7lv+QcW4tMVX4wqXMs96IKRKVdg06yeQgR3rkfgBeYEB22KukoWFrmUADQmVhAg 2b9p8mxa/uyJFeFJCtjqSJTvrK44IuBydnBkwiwaXWraqlg93VMc3lpVVLBhBYp8UYl+ egveX4NXIk516atyzg4VOOZ++y/A/KRzXpCihPNtH5KkrokUdpA17tf7tr784iv7pF3X izVzVheXlHApNM+yCQZnvtjF2647APdRbAnfmPgZEkBBx2uH3dyUjWmigWzhixLyS4Th LVa5kprKrFqF/1JJ9mm9qt1X74vJjo+kxUqkxvs8JweKlcTMNh/nF+zHbbyeF7jesJcG WeSg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=X1y9eS/2J6jR4P1MkvkgAedVvqg7dgQ5jCsfFFrvIKA=; b=nNwY71nQQyheRyZNox5fnRecL/ySiWK6R1suthmaH+ikFK0rHNJdXC9dY/8Ltbj7aZ WcjQiKA+j6HmmRUJZOhrm1p5F8uuFITw1LYIovBzC6BRlIR5V03BBr2Uxe0/0Oxr2Oot qhuytGo0h5vXWr8FvJGntFN6gNu91fsg33dWXWUC1QPBDpAf6gBVvi8+EeDjoC4rIeCa Xjw8DMMbcrquxpTEbYYwGpgkkAHduJOLboQ1gff2XET1g+WHsBzMeIIt3x+lSMs0Cdd4 DbwEts3tHcyrGRhoz/u1oTznj1RHu4Rq0JbikT7w3nusH+Oay2NdsCi2ZIXv/hgAKbyT vqUQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouuqW9YaqNxpL++FkA1990fx1UZmiLkmpUfEPFWtpNh6/lemNjb32VGmJ/R2T0kWyEmXXR+yTP+hMb3xmQ== X-Received: by 10.55.146.2 with SMTP id u2mr71578934qkd.20.1470065089090; Mon, 01 Aug 2016 08:24:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.237.44.231 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Aug 2016 08:24:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1FEE3F8F5CCDE64C9A8E8F4AD27C19EE0D57D550@NKGEML515-MBX.china.huawei.com> References: <1FEE3F8F5CCDE64C9A8E8F4AD27C19EE0D57D550@NKGEML515-MBX.china.huawei.com> From: Greg Shepherd Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 08:24:47 -0700 Message-ID: To: Xuxiaohu Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c08bb206ea02b0539043325 Archived-At: Cc: "bier@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Bier] Alternate Encap Design Team - Call for volunteers X-BeenThere: bier@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: gjshep@gmail.com List-Id: "\"Bit Indexed Explicit Replication discussion list\"" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2016 15:24:52 -0000 --94eb2c08bb206ea02b0539043325 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 This will be determined by the design team. Thanks, Greg On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 7:12 PM, Xuxiaohu wrote: > Hi Greg, > > > > I hope to understand what the alternative encapsulation options mean > before responding to this poll. Should these alternative encapsulation > options be built on the MPLS-BIER header, more specially, should these > options still contain a indirection field (i.e., the BIER-MPLS label) by > which some information used for BIER forwarding could be inferred? Or these > alternative encapsulation options allow all the necessary information used > for BIER forwarding to be contained in the BIER header directly? > > > > Best regards, > > Xiaohu > > > > *From:* BIER [mailto:bier-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Greg Shepherd > *Sent:* Friday, July 29, 2016 12:33 AM > *To:* bier@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [Bier] Alternate Encap Design Team - Call for volunteers > > > > Thank you to the 9 responders so far to the call. I'm going to start a > date/location poll for the current list of volunteers. If others are > interested in joining, the call is still open. Please send email to the > chairs requesting to be added. > > > > Thanks!, > > Greg > > > > On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Greg Shepherd wrote: > > *, > > > > Thank you to all who attended and contributed to the lively discussion at > the WG meeting in Berlin this week. This is what WG meetings should be - > and some would say, used to be. > > > > From a poll in the room, there was consensus to pull together a volunteer > design team to look at the various encap options, and based on > use-case/operational considerations/support the team will pick one > additional encap to document and offer as a WG item. The expectation is the > list of volunteers will attend an interim WG meeting were we will work > together for 2-3 days to hash out the direction and details. This will be a > physical meeting, but will accommodate remote participation as well. > > > > I would like to see this work published and available for further > discussion to the group at large on the list before and in the room during > the next WG meeting in November. Considering the requirements for interim > meeting announcements, the soonest we can reasonably target an interim > meeting is Sept. > > > > Anyone wanting to volunteer as a member of the BIER Encap Design Team, > please send email to the WG chairs. We will compile the list, then target a > suitable location and dates from there. We look forward to pulling this > enthusiastic team together in one direction. > > > > Thanks, > > Greg > > > > > > > --94eb2c08bb206ea02b0539043325 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This will be determined by the design team.

=
Thanks,
Greg

On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 7:12 PM, Xuxiaohu <xuxia= ohu@huawei.com> wrote:

Hi Greg,

=C2= =A0

I hope to = understand what the alternative encapsulation options mean before respondin= g to this poll. Should these alternative encapsulation options be built on the MPLS-BIER header, more specially, should these options sti= ll contain a indirection field (i.e., the BIER-MPLS label) by which some in= formation used for BIER forwarding could be inferred? Or these alternative = encapsulation options allow all the necessary information used for BIER forwarding to be contained in the = BIER header directly?

=C2= =A0

Best regar= ds,

Xiaohu<= /u>

=C2= =A0

From: BIER [mailto:bier-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Greg Shepherd
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 12:33 AM
To: bier@ietf.org=
Subject: Re: [Bier] Alternate Encap Design Team - Call for volunteer= s

=C2=A0

Thank you to the 9 responders s= o far to the call. I'm going to start a date/location poll for the curr= ent list of volunteers. If others are interested in joining, the call is st= ill open. Please send email to the chairs requesting to be added.

=C2=A0

Thanks!,

Greg

=C2=A0

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 5:17 PM= , Greg Shepherd <g= jshep@gmail.com> wrote:

*,

=C2=A0

Thank you to all who attended a= nd contributed to the lively discussion at the WG meeting in Berlin this we= ek. This is what WG meetings should be - and some would say, used to be.=

=C2=A0

From a poll in the room, there = was consensus to pull together a volunteer design team to look at the vario= us encap options, and based on use-case/operational considerations/support = the team will pick one additional encap to document and offer as a WG item. The expectation is the list of volunte= ers will attend an interim WG meeting were we will work together for 2-3 da= ys to hash out the direction and details. This will be a physical meeting, = but will accommodate remote participation as well.

=C2=A0

I would like to see this work p= ublished and available for further discussion to the group at large on the = list before and in the room during the next WG meeting in November. Conside= ring the requirements for interim meeting announcements, the soonest we can reasonably target an interim meeting is = Sept.

=C2=A0

Anyone wanting to volunteer as = a member of the BIER Encap Design Team, please send email to the WG chairs.= We will compile the list, then target a suitable location and dates from t= here. We look forward to pulling this enthusiastic team together in one direction.

=C2=A0

Thanks,

Greg

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0


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Should these alternative encapsulation >> options be built on the MPLS-BIER header, more specially, should these >> options still contain a indirection field (i.e., the BIER-MPLS label) by >> which some information used for BIER forwarding could be inferred? Or th= ese >> alternative encapsulation options allow all the necessary information us= ed >> for BIER forwarding to be contained in the BIER header directly? >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Xiaohu >> >> >> >> *From:* BIER [mailto:bier-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Greg Shepherd >> *Sent:* Friday, July 29, 2016 12:33 AM >> *To:* bier@ietf.org >> *Subject:* Re: [Bier] Alternate Encap Design Team - Call for volunteers >> >> >> >> Thank you to the 9 responders so far to the call. I'm going to start a >> date/location poll for the current list of volunteers. If others are >> interested in joining, the call is still open. Please send email to the >> chairs requesting to be added. >> >> >> >> Thanks!, >> >> Greg >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Greg Shepherd wrote: >> >> *, >> >> >> >> Thank you to all who attended and contributed to the lively discussion a= t >> the WG meeting in Berlin this week. This is what WG meetings should be - >> and some would say, used to be. >> >> >> >> From a poll in the room, there was consensus to pull together a voluntee= r >> design team to look at the various encap options, and based on >> use-case/operational considerations/support the team will pick one >> additional encap to document and offer as a WG item. The expectation is = the >> list of volunteers will attend an interim WG meeting were we will work >> together for 2-3 days to hash out the direction and details. This will b= e a >> physical meeting, but will accommodate remote participation as well. >> >> >> >> I would like to see this work published and available for further >> discussion to the group at large on the list before and in the room duri= ng >> the next WG meeting in November. Considering the requirements for interi= m >> meeting announcements, the soonest we can reasonably target an interim >> meeting is Sept. >> >> >> >> Anyone wanting to volunteer as a member of the BIER Encap Design Team, >> please send email to the WG chairs. We will compile the list, then targe= t a >> suitable location and dates from there. We look forward to pulling this >> enthusiastic team together in one direction. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Greg >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > BIER mailing list > BIER@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bier > > --=20 *We=E2=80=99ve heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could pr= oduce the complete works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know that is not true.* =E2=80=94Robert Wilensky --94eb2c0496528a29a00539058726 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 8:24 AM, Greg Shepherd <= ;gjshep@gmail.com= > wrote:
This = will be determined by the design team.

Thanks,
Greg

On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 7:12 PM, Xu= xiaohu <xuxiaohu@huawei.com> wrote:

Hi Greg,

=C2= =A0

I hope to = understand what the alternative encapsulation options mean before respondin= g to this poll. Should these alternative encapsulation options be built on the MPLS-BIER header, more specially, should these options sti= ll contain a indirection field (i.e., the BIER-MPLS label) by which some in= formation used for BIER forwarding could be inferred? Or these alternative = encapsulation options allow all the necessary information used for BIER forwarding to be contained in the = BIER header directly?

=C2= =A0

Best regar= ds,

Xiaohu<= /u>

=C2= =A0

From: BIER [mailto:bier-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Greg Shepherd
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 12:33 AM
To: bier@ietf.org=
Subject: Re: [Bier] Alternate Encap Design Team - Call for volunteer= s

=C2=A0

Thank you to the 9 responders s= o far to the call. I'm going to start a date/location poll for the curr= ent list of volunteers. If others are interested in joining, the call is st= ill open. Please send email to the chairs requesting to be added.

=C2=A0

Thanks!,

Greg

=C2=A0

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 5:17 PM= , Greg Shepherd <g= jshep@gmail.com> wrote:

*,

=C2=A0

Thank you to all who attended a= nd contributed to the lively discussion at the WG meeting in Berlin this we= ek. This is what WG meetings should be - and some would say, used to be.=

=C2=A0

From a poll in the room, there = was consensus to pull together a volunteer design team to look at the vario= us encap options, and based on use-case/operational considerations/support = the team will pick one additional encap to document and offer as a WG item. The expectation is the list of volunte= ers will attend an interim WG meeting were we will work together for 2-3 da= ys to hash out the direction and details. This will be a physical meeting, = but will accommodate remote participation as well.

=C2=A0

I would like to see this work p= ublished and available for further discussion to the group at large on the = list before and in the room during the next WG meeting in November. Conside= ring the requirements for interim meeting announcements, the soonest we can reasonably target an interim meeting is = Sept.

=C2=A0

Anyone wanting to volunteer as = a member of the BIER Encap Design Team, please send email to the WG chairs.= We will compile the list, then target a suitable location and dates from t= here. We look forward to pulling this enthusiastic team together in one direction.

=C2=A0

Thanks,

Greg

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0



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Encap Design Team - Call for volunteers X-BeenThere: bier@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: gjshep@gmail.com List-Id: "\"Bit Indexed Explicit Replication discussion list\"" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2016 05:55:35 -0000 --001a11441dd845531f0539105d3e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xuxiaohu, Thanks for your input. I believe you were in the room in Berlin when this was being discussed. If you like I can resend you the minutes. We had room consensus to work together to identify any use case or service requirement gaps in the current, chartered MPLS encapsulation. And if sufficient case could be made, we would work together to design a specification to address these identified use-case/service gaps. Your input as a member of the design team is welcome and encouraged. Anyone willing to come to the table without an agenda, to identify a need and create a solution, together as part of the WG team, is welcome to help us out. Thanks, Greg On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Xuxiaohu wrote: > Hi Greg, > > > > Thanks for your answer. > > > > Since two BIER encapsulation options are already there: one is MPLS-based > (or called it indirection-based if the MPLS term seems too sensitive) and > another is non-MPLS-based ( > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-bier-encapsulation-05), shouldn=E2= =80=99t we > widely discuss whether the existing two options are enough in the WG scop= e > prior to forming a design team to invent additional encapsulation options= ? > Note that =E2=80=9Cenough=E2=80=9D here doesn=E2=80=99t mean they are =E2= =80=98perfect=E2=80=99, it just means we > can use them as baselines and complete them continuously. Maybe I > misunderstand your real intention of forming a design team to develop > alternative encapsulation options. > > > > Best regards, > > Xiaohu > > > > *From:* Greg Shepherd [mailto:gjshep@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, August 01, 2016 11:25 PM > *To:* Xuxiaohu > *Cc:* bier@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [Bier] Alternate Encap Design Team - Call for volunteers > > > > This will be determined by the design team. > > > > Thanks, > > Greg > > > > On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 7:12 PM, Xuxiaohu wrote: > > Hi Greg, > > > > I hope to understand what the alternative encapsulation options mean > before responding to this poll. Should these alternative encapsulation > options be built on the MPLS-BIER header, more specially, should these > options still contain a indirection field (i.e., the BIER-MPLS label) by > which some information used for BIER forwarding could be inferred? Or the= se > alternative encapsulation options allow all the necessary information use= d > for BIER forwarding to be contained in the BIER header directly? > > > > Best regards, > > Xiaohu > > > > *From:* BIER [mailto:bier-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Greg Shepherd > *Sent:* Friday, July 29, 2016 12:33 AM > *To:* bier@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [Bier] Alternate Encap Design Team - Call for volunteers > > > > Thank you to the 9 responders so far to the call. I'm going to start a > date/location poll for the current list of volunteers. If others are > interested in joining, the call is still open. Please send email to the > chairs requesting to be added. > > > > Thanks!, > > Greg > > > > On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Greg Shepherd wrote: > > *, > > > > Thank you to all who attended and contributed to the lively discussion at > the WG meeting in Berlin this week. This is what WG meetings should be - > and some would say, used to be. > > > > From a poll in the room, there was consensus to pull together a volunteer > design team to look at the various encap options, and based on > use-case/operational considerations/support the team will pick one > additional encap to document and offer as a WG item. The expectation is t= he > list of volunteers will attend an interim WG meeting were we will work > together for 2-3 days to hash out the direction and details. This will be= a > physical meeting, but will accommodate remote participation as well. > > > > I would like to see this work published and available for further > discussion to the group at large on the list before and in the room durin= g > the next WG meeting in November. Considering the requirements for interim > meeting announcements, the soonest we can reasonably target an interim > meeting is Sept. > > > > Anyone wanting to volunteer as a member of the BIER Encap Design Team, > please send email to the WG chairs. We will compile the list, then target= a > suitable location and dates from there. We look forward to pulling this > enthusiastic team together in one direction. > > > > Thanks, > > Greg > > > > > > > > > --001a11441dd845531f0539105d3e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Xuxiaohu,

Thanks for your input. I beli= eve you were in the room in Berlin when this was being discussed. If you li= ke I can resend you the minutes. We had room consensus to work together to = identify any use case or service requirement gaps in the current, chartered= MPLS encapsulation. And if sufficient case could be made, we would work to= gether to design a specification to address these identified use-case/servi= ce gaps.

Your input as a member of the design team= is welcome and encouraged. Anyone willing to come to the table without an = agenda, to identify a need and create a solution, together as part of the W= G team, is welcome to help us out.

Thanks,
Greg


On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Xuxiaohu <xuxiaohu@huaw= ei.com> wrote:

Hi Greg,

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Thanks for= your answer.

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Since two = BIER encapsulation options are already there: one is MPLS-based (or called = it indirection-based if the MPLS term seems too sensitive) and another is non-MPLS-based =C2=A0(https://tools.ietf.org/= html/draft-xu-bier-encapsulation-05), shouldn=E2=80=99t we widely discu= ss whether the existing two options are enough in the WG scope prior to forming a design team to invent additional encapsulation options? Note = that =E2=80=9Cenough=E2=80=9D here doesn=E2=80=99t mean they are =E2=80=98p= erfect=E2=80=99, it just means we can use them as baselines and complete th= em continuously. Maybe I misunderstand your real intention of forming a design team to develop alternative encapsulation options.

=C2= =A0

Best regar= ds,

Xiaohu<= /u>

=C2= =A0

From: Greg Shepherd [mailto:gjshep@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 11:25 PM
To: Xuxiaohu
Cc: bier@ietf.org=
Subject: Re: [Bier] Alternate Encap Design Team - Call for volunteer= s

=C2=A0

This will be determined by the = design team.

=C2=A0

Thanks,

Greg

=C2=A0

On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 7:12 PM= , Xuxiaohu <xux= iaohu@huawei.com> wrote:

Hi Greg,

=C2=A0

I hope to = understand what the alternative encapsulation options mean before respondin= g to this poll. Should these alternative encapsulation options be built on t= he MPLS-BIER header, more specially, should these options still contain a i= ndirection field (i.e., the BIER-MPLS label) by which some information used= for BIER forwarding could be inferred? Or these alternative encapsulation options allow all the necessary informa= tion used for BIER forwarding to be contained in the BIER header directly?<= /span>

=C2=A0

Best regar= ds,

Xiaohu

=C2=A0

From: BIER [mailto:bier-bo= unces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Greg Shepherd
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 12:33 AM
To: bier@ietf.org=
Subject: Re: [Bier] Alternate Encap Design Team - Call for volunteer= s

=C2=A0

Thank you to the 9 responders s= o far to the call. I'm going to start a date/location poll for the curr= ent list of volunteers. If others are interested in joining, the call is still open. Please send email to the chairs requesting to be a= dded.

=C2=A0

Thanks!,

Greg

=C2=A0

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 5:17 PM= , Greg Shepherd <g= jshep@gmail.com> wrote:

*,

=C2=A0

Thank you to all who attended a= nd contributed to the lively discussion at the WG meeting in Berlin this we= ek. This is what WG meetings should be - and some would say, used to be.

=C2=A0

From a poll in the room, there = was consensus to pull together a volunteer design team to look at the vario= us encap options, and based on use-case/operational considerations/support the team will pick one additional encap to document= and offer as a WG item. The expectation is the list of volunteers will att= end an interim WG meeting were we will work together for 2-3 days to hash o= ut the direction and details. This will be a physical meeting, but will accommodate remote participation as w= ell.

=C2=A0

I would like to see this work p= ublished and available for further discussion to the group at large on the = list before and in the room during the next WG meeting in November. Considering the requirements for interim meeting announcement= s, the soonest we can reasonably target an interim meeting is Sept.<= u>

=C2=A0

Anyone wanting to volunteer as = a member of the BIER Encap Design Team, please send email to the WG chairs.= We will compile the list, then target a suitable location and dates from there. We look forward to pulling this enthusiastic team to= gether in one direction.

=C2=A0

Thanks,

Greg

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

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xch-rcd-009.cisco.com (173.37.102.19) by XCH-ALN-010.cisco.com (173.36.7.20) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1210.3; Wed, 3 Aug 2016 10:33:34 -0500 Received: from xch-rcd-009.cisco.com ([173.37.102.19]) by XCH-RCD-009.cisco.com ([173.37.102.19]) with mapi id 15.00.1210.000; Wed, 3 Aug 2016 10:33:34 -0500 From: "IJsbrand Wijnands (iwijnand)" To: "gjshep@gmail.com" Thread-Topic: [Bier] Alternate Encap Design Team - Call for volunteers Thread-Index: AQHR4uVDR6EPr4lms0mc7Ur45kZP1qAuaWeAgAACN4CACQdifw== Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 15:33:34 +0000 Message-ID: <58A6D85A-00A2-4ED8-BF8D-07E8FAC5DA28@cisco.com> References: , In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_58A6D85A00A24ED8BF8D07E8FAC5DA28ciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "bier@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Bier] Alternate Encap Design Team - Call for volunteers X-BeenThere: bier@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "\"Bit Indexed Explicit Replication discussion list\"" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2016 15:35:32 -0000 --_000_58A6D85A00A24ED8BF8D07E8FAC5DA28ciscocom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would like to volunteer, Thx, Ice. Sent from my iPhone On 28 Jul 2016, at 18:41, Greg Shepherd > wrote: *, Let me add, that if you DID NOT send email to this request, you are not on = the current list for the Alt Encap Design team. The call for hands in the r= oom was just to gauge interest. The official call is here on the list and y= ou need to respond on the list or you will not be included. Thanks, Greg On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Greg Shepherd > wrote: Thank you to the 9 responders so far to the call. I'm going to start a date= /location poll for the current list of volunteers. If others are interested= in joining, the call is still open. Please send email to the chairs reques= ting to be added. Thanks!, Greg On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Greg Shepherd > wrote: *, Thank you to all who attended and contributed to the lively discussion at t= he WG meeting in Berlin this week. This is what WG meetings should be - and= some would say, used to be. >From a poll in the room, there was consensus to pull together a volunteer d= esign team to look at the various encap options, and based on use-case/oper= ational considerations/support the team will pick one additional encap to d= ocument and offer as a WG item. The expectation is the list of volunteers w= ill attend an interim WG meeting were we will work together for 2-3 days to= hash out the direction and details. This will be a physical meeting, but w= ill accommodate remote participation as well. I would like to see this work published and available for further discussio= n to the group at large on the list before and in the room during the next = WG meeting in November. Considering the requirements for interim meeting an= nouncements, the soonest we can reasonably target an interim meeting is Sep= t. Anyone wanting to volunteer as a member of the BIER Encap Design Team, plea= se send email to the WG chairs. We will compile the list, then target a sui= table location and dates from there. We look forward to pulling this enthus= iastic team together in one direction. Thanks, Greg _______________________________________________ BIER mailing list BIER@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bier --_000_58A6D85A00A24ED8BF8D07E8FAC5DA28ciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I would like to volunteer,

Thx,

Ice.

Sent from my iPhone

On 28 Jul 2016, at 18:41, Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> wrote:

*,

Let me add, that if you DID NOT send email to this request, you are no= t on the current list for the Alt Encap Design team. The call for hands in = the room was just to gauge interest. The official call is here on the list = and you need to respond on the list or you will not be included.

Thanks,
Greg

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Greg Shepherd <= span dir=3D"ltr"> <gjshep@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
Thank you to the 9 responders so far to the call. I'm goin= g to start a date/location poll for the current list of volunteers. If othe= rs are interested in joining, the call is still open. Please send email to = the chairs requesting to be added.

Thanks!,
Greg

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 5:17 PM= , Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> wrote:
*,

Thank you to all who attended and contributed to the lively discussion= at the WG meeting in Berlin this week. This is what WG meetings should be = - and some would say, used to be.

From a poll in the room, there was consensus to pull together a volunt= eer design team to look at the various encap options, and based on use-case= /operational considerations/support the team will pick one additional encap= to document and offer as a WG item. The expectation is the list of volunteers will attend an interim WG meetin= g were we will work together for 2-3 days to hash out the direction and det= ails. This will be a physical meeting, but will accommodate remote particip= ation as well.

I would like to see this work published and available for further disc= ussion to the group at large on the list before and in the room during the = next WG meeting in November. Considering the requirements for interim meeti= ng announcements, the soonest we can reasonably target an interim meeting is Sept.

Anyone wanting to volunteer as a member of the BIER Encap Design Team,= please send email to the WG chairs. We will compile the list, then target = a suitable location and dates from there. We look forward to pulling this e= nthusiastic team together in one direction.

Thanks,
Greg




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On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 8:33 AM, IJsbrand Wijnands (iwijnand) wrote: > I would like to volunteer, > > Thx, > > Ice. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 28 Jul 2016, at 18:41, Greg Shepherd wrote: > > *, > > Let me add, that if you DID NOT send email to this request, you are not on > the current list for the Alt Encap Design team. The call for hands in the > room was just to gauge interest. The official call is here on the list and > you need to respond on the list or you will not be included. > > Thanks, > Greg > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Greg Shepherd wrote: > >> Thank you to the 9 responders so far to the call. I'm going to start a >> date/location poll for the current list of volunteers. If others are >> interested in joining, the call is still open. Please send email to the >> chairs requesting to be added. >> >> Thanks!, >> Greg >> >> On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Greg Shepherd wrote: >> >>> *, >>> >>> Thank you to all who attended and contributed to the lively discussion >>> at the WG meeting in Berlin this week. This is what WG meetings should be - >>> and some would say, used to be. >>> >>> From a poll in the room, there was consensus to pull together a >>> volunteer design team to look at the various encap options, and based on >>> use-case/operational considerations/support the team will pick one >>> additional encap to document and offer as a WG item. The expectation is the >>> list of volunteers will attend an interim WG meeting were we will work >>> together for 2-3 days to hash out the direction and details. This will be a >>> physical meeting, but will accommodate remote participation as well. >>> >>> I would like to see this work published and available for further >>> discussion to the group at large on the list before and in the room during >>> the next WG meeting in November. Considering the requirements for interim >>> meeting announcements, the soonest we can reasonably target an interim >>> meeting is Sept. >>> >>> Anyone wanting to volunteer as a member of the BIER Encap Design Team, >>> please send email to the WG chairs. We will compile the list, then target a >>> suitable location and dates from there. We look forward to pulling this >>> enthusiastic team together in one direction. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Greg >>> >>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > BIER mailing list > BIER@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bier > > --001a113f42e63f814e05392c9084 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Add, thanks.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 8:33 AM, IJsbrand Wijnands (iwijna= nd) <ice@cisco.com> wrote:
I would like to volunteer,

Thx,

Ice.

Sent from my iPhone

On 28 Jul 2016, at 18:41, Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> wrote:

*,

Let me add, that if you DID NOT send email to this request, you are no= t on the current list for the Alt Encap Design team. The call for hands in = the room was just to gauge interest. The official call is here on the list = and you need to respond on the list or you will not be included.

Thanks,
Greg

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Greg Shepherd <= span dir=3D"ltr"> <gjshep@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
Thank you to the 9 responders so far to the call. I'm = going to start a date/location poll for the current list of volunteers. If = others are interested in joining, the call is still open. Please send email= to the chairs requesting to be added.

Thanks!,
Greg

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Greg Shep= herd <gjshep@gmail.com> wrote:
*,

Thank you to all who attended and contributed to the lively discussion= at the WG meeting in Berlin this week. This is what WG meetings should be = - and some would say, used to be.

From a poll in the room, there was consensus to pull together a volunt= eer design team to look at the various encap options, and based on use-case= /operational considerations/support the team will pick one additional encap= to document and offer as a WG item. The expectation is the list of volunteers will attend an interim WG meetin= g were we will work together for 2-3 days to hash out the direction and det= ails. This will be a physical meeting, but will accommodate remote particip= ation as well.

I would like to see this work published and available for further disc= ussion to the group at large on the list before and in the room during the = next WG meeting in November. Considering the requirements for interim meeti= ng announcements, the soonest we can reasonably target an interim meeting is Sept.

Anyone wanting to volunteer as a member of the BIER Encap Design Team,= please send email to the WG chairs. We will compile the list, then target = a suitable location and dates from there. We look forward to pulling this e= nthusiastic team together in one direction.

Thanks,
Greg




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BIER@ietf.org<= /span>
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Andrew Sent from my iPhone On Aug 3, 2016, at 11:36 PM, Greg Shepherd > wrote: Add, thanks. On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 8:33 AM, IJsbrand Wijnands (iwijnand) > wrote: I would like to volunteer, Thx, Ice. Sent from my iPhone On 28 Jul 2016, at 18:41, Greg Shepherd > wrote: *, Let me add, that if you DID NOT send email to this request, you are not on = the current list for the Alt Encap Design team. The call for hands in the r= oom was just to gauge interest. The official call is here on the list and y= ou need to respond on the list or you will not be included. Thanks, Greg On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Greg Shepherd > wrote: Thank you to the 9 responders so far to the call. I'm going to start a date= /location poll for the current list of volunteers. If others are interested= in joining, the call is still open. Please send email to the chairs reques= ting to be added. Thanks!, Greg On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Greg Shepherd > wrote: *, Thank you to all who attended and contributed to the lively discussion at t= he WG meeting in Berlin this week. This is what WG meetings should be - and= some would say, used to be. >From a poll in the room, there was consensus to pull together a volunteer d= esign team to look at the various encap options, and based on use-case/oper= ational considerations/support the team will pick one additional encap to d= ocument and offer as a WG item. The expectation is the list of volunteers w= ill attend an interim WG meeting were we will work together for 2-3 days to= hash out the direction and details. This will be a physical meeting, but w= ill accommodate remote participation as well. I would like to see this work published and available for further discussio= n to the group at large on the list before and in the room during the next = WG meeting in November. Considering the requirements for interim meeting an= nouncements, the soonest we can reasonably target an interim meeting is Sep= t. Anyone wanting to volunteer as a member of the BIER Encap Design Team, plea= se send email to the WG chairs. We will compile the list, then target a sui= table location and dates from there. We look forward to pulling this enthus= iastic team together in one direction. Thanks, Greg _______________________________________________ BIER mailing list BIER@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bier _______________________________________________ BIER mailing list BIER@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bier --_000_F1F94F056FC045D18503A32DF5857FC8nokiacom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Plus one. 

Andrew

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 3, 2016, at 11:36 PM, Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> wrote:

Add, thanks.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 8:33 AM, IJsbrand Wijnand= s (iwijnand) <ic= e@cisco.com> wrote:
I would like to volunteer,

Thx,

Ice.

Sent from my iPhone

On 28 Jul 2016, at 18:41, Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> wrote:

*,

Let me add, that if you DID NOT send email to this request, you are no= t on the current list for the Alt Encap Design team. The call for hands in = the room was just to gauge interest. The official call is here on the list = and you need to respond on the list or you will not be included.

Thanks,
Greg

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Greg Shepherd <= span dir=3D"ltr"> <gjshep@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
Thank you to the 9 responders so far to the call. I'm goin= g to start a date/location poll for the current list of volunteers. If othe= rs are interested in joining, the call is still open. Please send email to = the chairs requesting to be added.

Thanks!,
Greg

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Greg Shep= herd <gjshep@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
*,

Thank you to all who attended and contributed to the lively discussion= at the WG meeting in Berlin this week. This is what WG meetings should be = - and some would say, used to be.

From a poll in the room, there was consensus to pull together a volunt= eer design team to look at the various encap options, and based on use-case= /operational considerations/support the team will pick one additional encap= to document and offer as a WG item. The expectation is the list of volunteers will attend an interim WG meetin= g were we will work together for 2-3 days to hash out the direction and det= ails. This will be a physical meeting, but will accommodate remote particip= ation as well.

I would like to see this work published and available for further disc= ussion to the group at large on the list before and in the room during the = next WG meeting in November. Considering the requirements for interim meeti= ng announcements, the soonest we can reasonably target an interim meeting is Sept.

Anyone wanting to volunteer as a member of the BIER Encap Design Team,= please send email to the WG chairs. We will compile the list, then target = a suitable location and dates from there. We look forward to pulling this e= nthusiastic team together in one direction.

Thanks,
Greg

_______________________________________________
BIER mailing list
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--_000_F1F94F056FC045D18503A32DF5857FC8nokiacom_-- From nobody Wed Aug 3 11:23:08 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bier@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bier@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B8F12D129 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2016 11:23:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CTiUvTndyQ58 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2016 11:23:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usplmg20.ericsson.net (usplmg20.ericsson.net [198.24.6.45]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5533E12D0B4 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2016 11:23:05 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c618062d-980fb98000000a08-04-57a236e9a6b4 Received: from EUSAAHC008.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [147.117.188.96]) by (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id BC.1C.02568.9E632A75; Wed, 3 Aug 2016 20:24:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from EUSAAMB103.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.120]) by EUSAAHC008.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.96]) with mapi id 14.03.0301.000; Wed, 3 Aug 2016 14:15:24 -0400 From: Gregory Mirsky To: "gjshep@gmail.com" Thread-Topic: [Bier] Alternate Encap Design Team - Call for volunteers Thread-Index: AQHR4uVBBlSYCT4VgEqiX+GnOo+bvKAuWKOAgAACOICACVszAIAAACKAgAAZR4D//9CMUA== Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 18:15:24 +0000 Message-ID: <7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221AF3F72@eusaamb103.ericsson.se> References: <58A6D85A-00A2-4ED8-BF8D-07E8FAC5DA28@cisco.com>, In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.12] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221AF3F72eusaamb103erics_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFmpjkeLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42KZXLonQfeV2aJwg4kLuS2WztjDZLFlTp4D k8fOWXfZPZYs+ckUwBTFZZOSmpNZllqkb5fAldG1+il7wfacinnvTjI1MO6O7WLk5JAQMJE4 OHcxG4gtJLCBUWLPxlgIexmjxNPF0SA2m4CRxIuNPewgtoiApsT7k1+ZQGxmAWWJz5sngdnC Aq4S/cfOsELUuElM+/mTGcIOk2h82AUWZxFQkfg14QWYzSvgK9H69BxQDRfQrh5miZ6+fSwg CU4BW4nv7x6A2YwCYhLfT62BWiYucevJfCaIowUkluw5zwxhi0q8fPyPFcJWkpjz+hozRH2+ ROuZg0wQywQlTs58wjKBUWQWklGzkJTNQlIGEdeRWLD7ExuErS2xbOFrZhj7zIHHTMjiCxjZ VzFylBYX5OSmGxlsYgTGzjEJNt0djPenex5iFOBgVOLhVTBcFC7EmlhWXJl7iFGCg1lJhNcG JMSbklhZlVqUH19UmpNafIhRmoNFSZxX7JFiuJBAemJJanZqakFqEUyWiYNTqoHxZPC9nnP6 8QHF9WJhr8Rv77P/f/3fJdvPU/9cDpgbM+nguYNOXvctrDm2SXoUplT88HswffNRHYv8X5Ne 5XiEt626fdr6Su8V45naLj+nvLnFdue8/S85y9WMJdXZotWrIy9sv7Cq8fuGhd9619a2n+JY 5bjG46gOR9n7eUdyci52KKsprcjUVWIpzkg01GIuKk4EAGIaQp2ZAgAA Archived-At: Cc: "bier@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Bier] Alternate Encap Design Team - Call for volunteers X-BeenThere: bier@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "\"Bit Indexed Explicit Replication discussion list\"" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2016 18:23:08 -0000 --_000_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221AF3F72eusaamb103erics_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please add me too. Regards, Greg From: BIER [mailto:bier-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dolganow, Andrew (No= kia - SG) Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 10:05 AM To: gjshep@gmail.com Cc: bier@ietf.org; IJsbrand Wijnands (iwijnand) Subject: Re: [Bier] Alternate Encap Design Team - Call for volunteers Plus one. Andrew Sent from my iPhone On Aug 3, 2016, at 11:36 PM, Greg Shepherd > wrote: Add, thanks. On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 8:33 AM, IJsbrand Wijnands (iwijnand) > wrote: I would like to volunteer, Thx, Ice. Sent from my iPhone On 28 Jul 2016, at 18:41, Greg Shepherd > wrote: *, Let me add, that if you DID NOT send email to this request, you are not on = the current list for the Alt Encap Design team. The call for hands in the r= oom was just to gauge interest. The official call is here on the list and y= ou need to respond on the list or you will not be included. Thanks, Greg On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Greg Shepherd > wrote: Thank you to the 9 responders so far to the call. I'm going to start a date= /location poll for the current list of volunteers. If others are interested= in joining, the call is still open. Please send email to the chairs reques= ting to be added. Thanks!, Greg On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Greg Shepherd > wrote: *, Thank you to all who attended and contributed to the lively discussion at t= he WG meeting in Berlin this week. This is what WG meetings should be - and= some would say, used to be. >From a poll in the room, there was consensus to pull together a volunteer d= esign team to look at the various encap options, and based on use-case/oper= ational considerations/support the team will pick one additional encap to d= ocument and offer as a WG item. The expectation is the list of volunteers w= ill attend an interim WG meeting were we will work together for 2-3 days to= hash out the direction and details. This will be a physical meeting, but w= ill accommodate remote participation as well. I would like to see this work published and available for further discussio= n to the group at large on the list before and in the room during the next = WG meeting in November. Considering the requirements for interim meeting an= nouncements, the soonest we can reasonably target an interim meeting is Sep= t. Anyone wanting to volunteer as a member of the BIER Encap Design Team, plea= se send email to the WG chairs. We will compile the list, then target a sui= table location and dates from there. We look forward to pulling this enthus= iastic team together in one direction. Thanks, Greg _______________________________________________ BIER mailing list BIER@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bier _______________________________________________ BIER mailing list BIER@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bier --_000_7347100B5761DC41A166AC17F22DF11221AF3F72eusaamb103erics_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Please add me too.

 

        &nb= sp;       Regards,

        &nb= sp;            =            Greg

 

From: BIER [mailto:bier-bounces@ietf= .org] On Behalf Of Dolganow, Andrew (Nokia - SG)
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 10:05 AM
To: gjshep@gmail.com
Cc: bier@ietf.org; IJsbrand Wijnands (iwijnand) <ice@cisco.com>= ;
Subject: Re: [Bier] Alternate Encap Design Team - Call for volunteer= s

 

Plus one. 

Andrew

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 3, 2016, at 11:36 PM, Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> wrote:

Add, thanks.

 

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 8:33 AM, IJsbrand Wijnands (i= wijnand) <ice@cisco.c= om> wrote:

I would like to volunteer,

 

Thx,

 

Ice.

Sent from my iPhone


On 28 Jul 2016, at 18:41, Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> wrote:

*,

 

Let me add, that if you DID NOT send email to this r= equest, you are not on the current list for the Alt Encap Design team. The = call for hands in the room was just to gauge interest. The official call is= here on the list and you need to respond on the list or you will not be included.

 

Thanks,

Greg

 

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Greg Shepherd <<= a href=3D"mailto:gjshep@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gjshep@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:

Thank you to the 9 responders so far to the call. I'= m going to start a date/location poll for the current list of volunteers. I= f others are interested in joining, the call is still open. Please send ema= il to the chairs requesting to be added.

 

Thanks!,

Greg

 

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Greg Shepherd <<= a href=3D"mailto:gjshep@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gjshep@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:

*,

 

Thank you to all who attended and contributed to the= lively discussion at the WG meeting in Berlin this week. This is what WG m= eetings should be - and some would say, used to be.

 

From a poll in the room, there was consensus to pull= together a volunteer design team to look at the various encap options, and= based on use-case/operational considerations/support the team will pick on= e additional encap to document and offer as a WG item. The expectation is the list of volunteers will attend = an interim WG meeting were we will work together for 2-3 days to hash out t= he direction and details. This will be a physical meeting, but will accommo= date remote participation as well.

 

I would like to see this work published and availabl= e for further discussion to the group at large on the list before and in th= e room during the next WG meeting in November. Considering the requirements= for interim meeting announcements, the soonest we can reasonably target an interim meeting is Sept.

 

Anyone wanting to volunteer as a member of the BIER = Encap Design Team, please send email to the WG chairs. We will compile the = list, then target a suitable location and dates from there. We look forward= to pulling this enthusiastic team together in one direction.

 

Thanks,

Greg

 

 

 

 

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BIER mailing list
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Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3553092554_1741786198 Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit +1 Cheers, Jeff From: BIER on behalf of Gregory Mirsky Date: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 at 11:15 To: "gjshep@gmail.com" Cc: "bier@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Bier] Alternate Encap Design Team - Call for volunteers Please add me too. Regards, Greg From: BIER [mailto:bier-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dolganow, Andrew (Nokia - SG) Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 10:05 AM To: gjshep@gmail.com Cc: bier@ietf.org; IJsbrand Wijnands (iwijnand) Subject: Re: [Bier] Alternate Encap Design Team - Call for volunteers Plus one. Andrew Sent from my iPhone On Aug 3, 2016, at 11:36 PM, Greg Shepherd wrote: Add, thanks. On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 8:33 AM, IJsbrand Wijnands (iwijnand) wrote: I would like to volunteer, Thx, Ice. Sent from my iPhone On 28 Jul 2016, at 18:41, Greg Shepherd wrote: *, Let me add, that if you DID NOT send email to this request, you are not on the current list for the Alt Encap Design team. The call for hands in the room was just to gauge interest. The official call is here on the list and you need to respond on the list or you will not be included. Thanks, Greg On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Greg Shepherd wrote: Thank you to the 9 responders so far to the call. I'm going to start a date/location poll for the current list of volunteers. If others are interested in joining, the call is still open. Please send email to the chairs requesting to be added. Thanks!, Greg On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Greg Shepherd wrote: *, Thank you to all who attended and contributed to the lively discussion at the WG meeting in Berlin this week. This is what WG meetings should be - and some would say, used to be. >From a poll in the room, there was consensus to pull together a volunteer design team to look at the various encap options, and based on use-case/operational considerations/support the team will pick one additional encap to document and offer as a WG item. The expectation is the list of volunteers will attend an interim WG meeting were we will work together for 2-3 days to hash out the direction and details. This will be a physical meeting, but will accommodate remote participation as well. I would like to see this work published and available for further discussion to the group at large on the list before and in the room during the next WG meeting in November. Considering the requirements for interim meeting announcements, the soonest we can reasonably target an interim meeting is Sept. Anyone wanting to volunteer as a member of the BIER Encap Design Team, please send email to the WG chairs. We will compile the list, then target a suitable location and dates from there. We look forward to pulling this enthusiastic team together in one direction. Thanks, Greg _______________________________________________ BIER mailing list BIER@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bier _______________________________________________ BIER mailing list BIER@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bier _______________________________________________ BIER mailing list BIER@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bier --B_3553092554_1741786198 Content-type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

+1

 

 

Cheers,

Jeff

 

 

From: = BIER <bier-bounces@ietf= .org> on behalf of Gregory Mirsky <gregory.mirsky@ericsson.com>
= Date: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 at 11:15
To: "gjshep@g= mail.com" <gjshep@gmail.com>
Cc: "bier@ietf.org&qu= ot; <bier@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Bier] Alternate Encap Desi= gn Team - Call for volunteers

 

Please add me too.

=

 =

          =       Regards,

   &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;            = ;   Greg

 

From:<= /span> BIER [mailto:b= ier-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dolganow, Andrew (Nokia - SG)
<= b>Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 10:05 AM
To: gjshep@gmail.c= om
Cc: bier@ietf.org; IJsbrand Wijnands (iwijnand) <ice@cisco.c= om>
Subject: Re: [Bier] Alternate Encap Design Team - Call for = volunteers

 

Plus one. 

Andrew

 

= Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 3, 2016, at 11:36 PM, Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> wrote:

<= p class=3DMsoNormal>Add, thanks.

&= nbsp;

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 8:33 AM, = IJsbrand Wijnands (iwijnand) <ice@cisco.com> wrote:

I would like to volunteer,

 

Thx,

<= /div>

 

Ice.

Sent from my iPhone


On 28 Jul 2016, at 18:41, Greg Shepherd= <gjshep@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:

*,

 

Let me add, that i= f you DID NOT send email to this request, you are not on the current list fo= r the Alt Encap Design team. The call for hands in the room was just to gaug= e interest. The official call is here on the list and you need to respond on= the list or you will not be included.

 

Thanks,=

Greg

 

On Thu, Jul 28, 20= 16 at 9:32 AM, Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you to the 9 responders so far to the call. I'm going to st= art a date/location poll for the current list of volunteers. If others are i= nterested in joining, the call is still open. Please send email to the chair= s requesting to be added.

 =

Thanks!,

Greg

&nbs= p;

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Gr= eg Shepherd <gjshep@gma= il.com> wrote:

*,

 

Thank you to all who attended and contributed to the li= vely discussion at the WG meeting in Berlin this week. This is what WG meeti= ngs should be - and some would say, used to be.

 

From a po= ll in the room, there was consensus to pull together a volunteer design team= to look at the various encap options, and based on use-case/operational con= siderations/support the team will pick one additional encap to document and = offer as a WG item. The expectation is the list of volunteers will attend an= interim WG meeting were we will work together for 2-3 days to hash out the = direction and details. This will be a physical meeting, but will accommodate= remote participation as well.

&= nbsp;

I would like to see this w= ork published and available for further discussion to the group at large on = the list before and in the room during the next WG meeting in November. Cons= idering the requirements for interim meeting announcements, the soonest we c= an reasonably target an interim meeting is Sept.

 

Anyone w= anting to volunteer as a member of the BIER Encap Design Team, please send e= mail to the WG chairs. We will compile the list, then target a suitable loca= tion and dates from there. We look forward to pulling this enthusiastic team= together in one direction.

&nbs= p;

Thanks,

<= div>

Greg

&nbs= p;

 

 

<= /div>

 

=
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Milpitas, CA X-BeenThere: bier@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: gjshep@gmail.com List-Id: "\"Bit Indexed Explicit Replication discussion list\"" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 12:07:38 -0000 --94eb2c0850c68eda97053b34b5b5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 The BIER working group asked for volunteers to form a design team focused on identifying and specifying an alternative encapsulation of BIER packets. This design team will be meeting in person on: Sept 27-29, 2016 Cisco Systems 115 N McCarthy Blvd Milpitas, CA 95035 The location has capacity for those volunteers who will be meeting in person. There will be accommodations for remote participation as well. The list of Design Team volunteers is as follows: gjshep@gmail.com tonysietf@gmail.com naikumar@cisco.com zzhang@juniper.net pierre.pfister@darou.fr farinacci@gmail.com zhang.zheng@zte.com.cn stig@venaas.com ldeghein@cisco.com wang.cui1@zte.com.cn nranns@cisco.com masivaku@cisco.com andrew.dolganow@nokia.com gregory.mirsky@ericsson.com rashid.sangi@huawei.com jefftant.ietf@gmail.com rajiva@cisco.com okomolaf@brocade.com xuxiaohu@huawei.com ice@cisco.com jefftant.ietf@gmail.com rashid.sangi@huawei.com Thank you, Chairs --94eb2c0850c68eda97053b34b5b5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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