From andrew.hutton@siemens-enterprise.com Tue Feb 1 07:40:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bliss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: bliss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17A23A6CF2 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 07:40:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.444 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.444 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.155, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BAK6WMXqqXY5 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 07:40:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from ms01.m0019.fra.mmp.de.bt.com (m0019.fra.mmp.de.bt.com [62.180.227.30]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C23B03A6C0F for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 07:40:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from senmx11-mx ([62.134.46.9] [62.134.46.9]) by ms01.m0020.fra.mmp.de.bt.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-3230758; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:43:54 +0100 Received: from MCHP064A.global-ad.net (unknown [172.29.37.63]) by senmx11-mx (Server) with ESMTP id D56061EB82AE; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:43:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from MCHP058A.global-ad.net ([172.29.37.55]) by MCHP064A.global-ad.net ([172.29.37.63]) with mapi; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:43:49 +0100 From: "Hutton, Andrew" To: Shida Schubert , "Martin.Huelsemann@telekom.de" Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:43:48 +0100 Thread-Topic: [BLISS] Another WG last call on "Call Completion" Thread-Index: AcuxJfd/GYZ9nmgsTSucyf69L1a+/gRAHm7Q Message-ID: <101C6067BEC68246B0C3F6843BCCC1E30ADEEC80EB@MCHP058A.global-ad.net> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: BLISS Subject: Re: [BLISS] Another WG last call on "Call Completion" X-BeenThere: bliss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "Basic Level of Interoperability for SIP Services \(BLISS\) BoF" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 15:40:48 -0000 Hi Shida/Martin, I checked the latest draft against my previous comments and all seem to be = addressed. I note that there is now more details regarding the "recall timer" but shou= ld we provide some suggested value for this ? Regards Andy =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: bliss-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:bliss-bounces@ietf.org]=20 > On Behalf Of Shida Schubert > Sent: 11 January 2011 00:25 > To: BLISS > Subject: [BLISS] Another WG last call on "Call Completion" >=20 >=20 > As a lot of comments were provided on the=20 > draft-ietf-bliss-call-completion=20 > during WGLC with many being technical, I am running another WG=20 > last call on "Call Completion".=20 > =20 > This is to announce a second cycle of two week working group=20 > last call=20 > so please send your comments to the list including nits by=20 > the 25th of January. >=20 > I especially encourage those that have commented during WGLC to=20 > make sure your comments are reflected or addressed in the new=20 > version.=20 >=20 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bliss-call-completion-08.txt >=20 > Regards > Shida Schubert (As WG chair) > _______________________________________________ > BLISS mailing list > BLISS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bliss > = From thomas.stach@siemens-enterprise.com Tue Feb 1 08:39:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bliss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: bliss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD97A3A67F9 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 08:39:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eOA1bw++9zGr for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 08:39:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from ms03.m0019.fra.mmp.de.bt.com (m0019.fra.mmp.de.bt.com [62.180.227.30]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD82C3A679F for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 08:39:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from senmx12-mx ([62.134.46.10] [62.134.46.10]) by ms03.m0020.fra.mmp.de.bt.com with ESMTP id BT-MMP-3223129; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 17:42:37 +0100 Received: from MCHP064A.global-ad.net (unknown [172.29.37.63]) by senmx12-mx (Server) with ESMTP id 884B723F028E; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 17:42:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from MCHP058A.global-ad.net ([172.29.37.55]) by MCHP064A.global-ad.net ([172.29.37.63]) with mapi; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 17:42:37 +0100 From: "Stach, Thomas" To: Shida Schubert , BLISS Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 17:42:36 +0100 Thread-Topic: [BLISS] WGLC for Call Completion ending in few days Thread-Index: Acu7xwsvZNzExpt4QiiVCsuFTmR4QQGZ/ESA Message-ID: References: <36056508-E30C-40A2-86D7-1B9BA8692ED2@ntt-at.com> In-Reply-To: <36056508-E30C-40A2-86D7-1B9BA8692ED2@ntt-at.com> Accept-Language: de-DE, en-US Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: de-DE, en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [BLISS] WGLC for Call Completion ending in few days X-BeenThere: bliss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "Basic Level of Interoperability for SIP Services \(BLISS\) BoF" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 16:39:26 -0000 Martin, when quickly scanning through the draft I found a nit in the ABNF of sectio= n 10. call-completion =3D +(cc-header CRLF) I guess you want to allow for multiple appearance of cc-header. If so, you = should replace "+" by "*", i.e. call-completion =3D *(cc-header CRLF)=20 Sorry for the rather late comment. Regards Thomas > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: bliss-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:bliss-bounces@ietf.org]=20 > Im Auftrag von Shida Schubert > Gesendet: Montag, 24. J=E4nner 2011 14:03 > An: BLISS > Betreff: [BLISS] WGLC for Call Completion ending in few days >=20 >=20 > I am sending this e-mail to remind people that WGLC=20 > for call completion is ending in few days.=20 >=20 > I highly encourage those who commented during the=20 > first cycle of WGLC to make sure comments provided=20 > are reflected in the latest version of the draft.=20 >=20 > Regards > Shida (As chair) >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > BLISS mailing list > BLISS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bliss > = From Martin.Huelsemann@telekom.de Thu Feb 3 03:19:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bliss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: bliss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB16C3A68FA for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:19:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oTotr2dNjO7q for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:18:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from tcmail53.telekom.de (tcmail53.telekom.de [217.5.214.110]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DBCD3A68F8 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:18:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from he101251.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([10.125.92.154]) by tcmail51.telekom.de with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 03 Feb 2011 12:22:15 +0100 Received: from HE111543.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([169.254.4.13]) by HE101251.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([fe80::e428:2144:dcc5:bcce%15]) with mapi; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 12:22:15 +0100 From: To: Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 12:22:13 +0100 Thread-Topic: [BLISS] Another WG last call on "Call Completion" Thread-Index: AcuxJfd/GYZ9nmgsTSucyf69L1a+/gRAHm7QAFt4nwA= Message-ID: <9762ACF04FA26B4388476841256BDE020113A19B555A@HE111543.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> References: <101C6067BEC68246B0C3F6843BCCC1E30ADEEC80EB@MCHP058A.global-ad.net> In-Reply-To: <101C6067BEC68246B0C3F6843BCCC1E30ADEEC80EB@MCHP058A.global-ad.net> Accept-Language: de-DE Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: de-DE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: bliss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [BLISS] Another WG last call on "Call Completion" X-BeenThere: bliss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "Basic Level of Interoperability for SIP Services \(BLISS\) BoF" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 11:19:01 -0000 Hi Andy, we can add a recommendation for a default value between 10 and 20 s, which = is also the PSTN recommendation. Regards, Martin > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Hutton, Andrew [mailto:andrew.hutton@siemens-enterprise.com] > Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. Februar 2011 16:44 > An: Shida Schubert; H=FClsemann, Martin > Cc: BLISS > Betreff: RE: [BLISS] Another WG last call on "Call Completion" > > Hi Shida/Martin, > > I checked the latest draft against my previous comments and > all seem to be addressed. > > I note that there is now more details regarding the "recall > timer" but should we provide some suggested value for this ? > > Regards > Andy > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: bliss-bounces@ietf.org > [mailto:bliss-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > > Of Shida Schubert > > Sent: 11 January 2011 00:25 > > To: BLISS > > Subject: [BLISS] Another WG last call on "Call Completion" > > > > > > As a lot of comments were provided on the > > draft-ietf-bliss-call-completion during WGLC with many being > > technical, I am running another WG last call on "Call Completion". > > > > This is to announce a second cycle of two week working group last > > call so please send your comments to the list including nits by the > > 25th of January. > > > > I especially encourage those that have commented during > WGLC to make > > sure your comments are reflected or addressed in the new version. > > > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bliss-call-completion-08.txt > > > > Regards > > Shida Schubert (As WG chair) > > _______________________________________________ > > BLISS mailing list > > BLISS@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bliss > > > From Martin.Huelsemann@telekom.de Thu Feb 3 03:32:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bliss@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: bliss@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9828B3A68FD for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:32:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HbWV9YwdEZRs for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:32:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from tcmail73.telekom.de (tcmail73.telekom.de [217.243.239.135]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF533A68D7 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:32:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from he101250.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([10.125.92.153]) by tcmail71.telekom.de with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 03 Feb 2011 12:35:38 +0100 Received: from HE111543.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([169.254.4.13]) by HE101250.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([fe80::e439:4046:12e2:e37%15]) with mapi; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 12:35:38 +0100 From: To: Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 12:35:37 +0100 Thread-Topic: [BLISS] WGLC for Call Completion ending in few days Thread-Index: Acu7xwsvZNzExpt4QiiVCsuFTmR4QQGZ/ESAAFlpL2A= Message-ID: <9762ACF04FA26B4388476841256BDE020113A19B5581@HE111543.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> References: <36056508-E30C-40A2-86D7-1B9BA8692ED2@ntt-at.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: de-DE Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: de-DE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: bliss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [BLISS] WGLC for Call Completion ending in few days X-BeenThere: bliss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "Basic Level of Interoperability for SIP Services \(BLISS\) BoF" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 11:32:19 -0000 Hi Thomas, of course you are right, it must be "1*", which is the ABNF expression for = the regular expression "+", I've checked RFC 5234. BTW, there is still a reference to RFC 2234 in the CC draft, I will update = this, too. Regards, Martin > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: bliss-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:bliss-bounces@ietf.org] > Im Auftrag von Stach, Thomas > Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. Februar 2011 17:43 > An: Shida Schubert; BLISS > Betreff: Re: [BLISS] WGLC for Call Completion ending in few days > > Martin, > > when quickly scanning through the draft I found a nit in the > ABNF of section 10. > > call-completion =3D +(cc-header CRLF) > > I guess you want to allow for multiple appearance of > cc-header. If so, you should replace "+" by "*", i.e. > > call-completion =3D *(cc-header CRLF) > > Sorry for the rather late comment. > > Regards > Thomas > > > > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: bliss-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:bliss-bounces@ietf.org] > Im Auftrag > > von Shida Schubert > > Gesendet: Montag, 24. J=E4nner 2011 14:03 > > An: BLISS > > Betreff: [BLISS] WGLC for Call Completion ending in few days > > > > > > I am sending this e-mail to remind people that WGLC for call > > completion is ending in few days. > > > > I highly encourage those who commented during the first > cycle of WGLC > > to make sure comments provided are reflected in the latest > version of > > the draft. > > > > Regards > > Shida (As chair) > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > BLISS mailing list > > BLISS@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bliss > > > _______________________________________________ > BLISS mailing list > BLISS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bliss >