From nobody Tue May 13 09:27:50 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bnbsg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bnbsg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 466C71A00B2 for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 09:27:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.653 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.653 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a90byNwujsEw for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 09:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::28]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419FF1A00DD for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 09:27:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB001E403D; Tue, 13 May 2014 09:26:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c9a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B-0SfhkqJZ1w; Tue, 13 May 2014 09:26:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.21] (c-69-181-66-243.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [69.181.66.243]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7CDCE1E39E0; Tue, 13 May 2014 09:26:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Alexa Morris Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_B5A198E2-793D-4DEC-8CFA-9612E1390EFD" Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 09:27:39 -0700 Message-Id: To: bnbsg@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bnbsg/BudrM9DOgNPHlLIDS89KdkhrM5w Cc: Jari Arkko Subject: [Bnbsg] BnB IoT Messaging X-BeenThere: bnbsg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 16:27:49 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_B5A198E2-793D-4DEC-8CFA-9612E1390EFD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Hi Everyone, Alex and Pascal generously responded to my request for a =93call for = demos=94 writeup for the upcoming IoT-themed BnB event in Toronto. Their = draft is attached and embedded below, please review and comment.=20 After any tweaking, I think that we should send this information out to = the appropriate WG mailing lists and to the mail IETF list as well. = Potential participants will be asked to send their questions about = participating to bnbsg@ietf.org. The info will also go on the website = (as News and under IETF 90 area) and hopefully it will assist Drew in = his participant recruitment efforts.=20 We are under a tight timeframe, so I=92d like to send out the call for = participants before the end of the week (ideally Thursday).=20 Thanks, Alexa =97=97 Bits-N-Bites - Internet of Things --------------------------------- Call for Demos The arrival of Things connected to the Internet in the recent years brought to life new applications. In the consumer segment, numerous small and smart devices add new dimensions to existing domains such automatic home management, in-vehicle entertainment, eHealth, fitness and more. A growing enthusiasm in novel market suggests imminent and impressive deployments: billions new connected devices expected by year 2020. In professional segments, examples abound of the use of connected Things = for=20 future manufacturing and Machine-to-Machine communications. As of today, factory networks primarily rely on wired communication networks to = support=20 Industrial Automation and Control Systems. On the other hand, Wireless=20= Sensor Networks have the power to extend the reach of Monitoring and = Control=20 to gather unused measurements beyond what is physically and economically=20= possible with wires; the collection of these measurements by widely = distributed=20 sensing devices and their processing by Big Data analytics yield the = next degree of process optimization, a vision known as the Industrial = Internet. This =20 will require the combination of the best of IT and OT technologies = together,=20 forming the IT/OT convergence. Despite the word 'connected' being commonly employed in this context, the current Thing topologies do not use IP as known in the non-Things world. Instead, intermediary albeit small Boxes translating between IP and Thing-specific protocols are in common use (for e.g. application-layer conversions, IP to non-IP address translation, IP header compression, 'mesh-under' non-IP routing and more). This leads to typical 'multi-stage' topology such as: a temperature sensor connected to a smartwatch using a hardware communication protocol, further connected to a smartphone using a short-range non-IP protocol and finally connected to a WiFi router using a full IP link. On another hand, past experience in the development of the Internet suggests that if intermediary Boxes are less present in the path - dumb networks (thus reducing the 'multi-stage' Thing topology to a minimum of 2 stages and down to 1, ideally), the full potential of end-to-end principles may be uncovered: each Thing may be directly queried, their number may grow in a more scalable way and richer applications may offer features beyond what's talked about these days. When deploying multi-stage Thing topologies, two trends compete: IP protocols are enhanced and transformed into less end-to-end protocols (address translation, header compression, 'mesh under' routing and more) and, alternatively, existing IP protocols are reduced to their bare minimum such as to fit in reduced Things (reduced CPU frequency and number of transistors, dimensions and energy consumption). Demonstrations of these IoT concepts are called for. The demonstrations should exhibit recent developments of IP protocols for IoT networks (6lowpan adaptation layers, MANET and RPL routing protocols, 6tsch time-constrained communications, CoAP app-layer protocols) as well as demonstrations of the tendency of bringing the known IPv6 as close as possible to the Thing - minimum set of unmodified IPv6, Neighbor Discovery, DHCP, HTTP, IKEv2. Examples of demos include and are certainly not limited to: - home automation controller using SNMP for HVAC and ambient temperature, electricity counter. - industrial-grade Wireless Sensor Network products - scalable wireless designs and existing deployments - IPv6 end-to-end and backbone interconnection - tablet summarizing status of widespread devices through heterogeneous link connections. - smart belt collecting body information with low-energy communication protocols. - vehicle interior connected designs, vehicle-to-road sensor-based communications. - sensor-assisted autonomous mobile Things (mono-, bi-, quad- wheeled or propelled devices). Demonstrations may be realized in different manners: - the Things deployed on a table, relying on local connections and alternatively exhibiting remote access across the Internet. - poster describing demo. - video sequence showing a lab demonstration. Each demonstration must position with respect to questions such as - use of IP protocols: IPv4 or IPv6? =20 - intermediary Box or not? - on the market now, in the prototype stage, in an idea phase? - part of a collaborative project? gov't-funded or private? --Apple-Mail=_B5A198E2-793D-4DEC-8CFA-9612E1390EFD Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=bnb-iot-call-for-demos.txt Content-Type: text/plain; name="bnb-iot-call-for-demos.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0D Bits-N-Bites - Internet of Things=0D ---------------------------------=0D =0D Call for Demos=0D =0D The arrival of Things connected to the Internet in the recent years=0D brought to life new applications. In the consumer segment, numerous=0D small and smart devices add new dimensions to existing domains such=0D automatic home management, in-vehicle entertainment, eHealth, fitness=0D and more. A growing enthusiasm in novel market suggests=0D imminent and impressive deployments: billions new connected devices=0D expected by year 2020.=0D =0D In professional segments, examples abound of the use of connected Things = for =0D future manufacturing and Machine-to-Machine communications. As of today,=0D= factory networks primarily rely on wired communication networks to = support =0D Industrial Automation and Control Systems. On the other hand, Wireless =0D= Sensor Networks have the power to extend the reach of Monitoring and = Control =0D to gather unused measurements beyond what is physically and economically = =0D possible with wires; the collection of these measurements by widely = distributed =0D sensing devices and their processing by Big Data analytics yield the = next=0D degree of process optimization, a vision known as the Industrial = Internet. This =0D will require the combination of the best of IT and OT technologies = together, =0D forming the IT/OT convergence.=0D =0D Despite the word 'connected' being commonly employed in this context,=0D the current Thing topologies do not use IP as known in the non-Things=0D world. Instead, intermediary albeit small Boxes translating between=0D IP and Thing-specific protocols are in common use (for=0D e.g. application-layer conversions, IP to non-IP address translation,=0D IP header compression, 'mesh-under' non-IP routing and more). This=0D leads to typical 'multi-stage' topology such as: a temperature sensor=0D connected to a smartwatch using a hardware communication protocol,=0D further connected to a smartphone using a short-range non-IP protocol=0D and finally connected to a WiFi router using a full IP link.=0D =0D =0D On another hand, past experience in the development of the Internet=0D suggests that if intermediary Boxes are less present in the path -=0D dumb networks (thus reducing the 'multi-stage' Thing topology to a=0D minimum of 2 stages and down to 1, ideally), the full potential of=0D end-to-end principles may be uncovered: each Thing may be directly=0D queried, their number may grow in a more scalable way and richer=0D applications may offer features beyond what's talked about these days.=0D= =0D When deploying multi-stage Thing topologies, two trends compete: IP=0D protocols are enhanced and transformed into less end-to-end protocols=0D (address translation, header compression, 'mesh under' routing and=0D more) and, alternatively, existing IP protocols are reduced to their=0D bare minimum such as to fit in reduced Things (reduced CPU frequency=0D and number of transistors, dimensions and energy consumption).=0D =0D Demonstrations of these IoT concepts are called for. The=0D demonstrations should exhibit recent developments of IP protocols for=0D IoT networks (6lowpan adaptation layers, MANET and RPL routing=0D protocols, 6tsch time-constrained communications, CoAP app-layer=0D protocols) as well as demonstrations of the tendency of bringing the=0D known IPv6 as close as possible to the Thing - minimum set of=0D unmodified IPv6, Neighbor Discovery, DHCP, HTTP, IKEv2.=0D =0D Examples of demos include and are certainly not limited to:=0D - home automation controller using SNMP for HVAC and ambient=0D temperature, electricity counter.=0D - industrial-grade Wireless Sensor Network products=0D - scalable wireless designs and existing deployments=0D - IPv6 end-to-end and backbone interconnection=0D - tablet summarizing status of widespread devices through=0D heterogeneous link connections.=0D - smart belt collecting body information with low-energy communication=0D= protocols.=0D - vehicle interior connected designs, vehicle-to-road sensor-based=0D communications.=0D - sensor-assisted autonomous mobile Things (mono-, bi-, quad- wheeled=0D or propelled devices).=0D =0D Demonstrations may be realized in different manners:=0D - the Things deployed on a table, relying on local connections and=0D alternatively exhibiting remote access across the Internet.=0D - poster describing demo.=0D - video sequence showing a lab demonstration.=0D =0D Each demonstration must position with respect to questions such as=0D - use of IP protocols: IPv4 or IPv6? =0D - intermediary Box or not?=0D - on the market now, in the prototype stage, in an idea phase?=0D - part of a collaborative project? gov't-funded or private?=0D =0D =0D =0D --Apple-Mail=_B5A198E2-793D-4DEC-8CFA-9612E1390EFD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ---------- Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001 Email: amorris@amsl.com Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning www.amsl.com --Apple-Mail=_B5A198E2-793D-4DEC-8CFA-9612E1390EFD-- From nobody Tue May 13 09:50:57 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bnbsg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bnbsg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430011A0087 for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 09:50:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.602 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.602 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id j4JX6e1naZKG for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 09:50:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from na01-by2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-by2lp0240.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.240]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 513C71A0124 for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 09:50:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from CO2PR06MB682.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.141.226.144) by CO2PR06MB683.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.141.226.146) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.934.12; Tue, 13 May 2014 16:50:43 +0000 Received: from CO2PR06MB682.namprd06.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.226.144]) by CO2PR06MB682.namprd06.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.226.144]) with mapi id 15.00.0934.000; Tue, 13 May 2014 16:50:43 +0000 From: Drew Dvorshak To: Alexa Morris , "bnbsg@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Bnbsg] BnB IoT Messaging Thread-Index: AQHPbshHfpwcECwsXU6/PMECXJ4YdZs+dlGA Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 16:50:42 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [173.226.66.170] x-forefront-prvs: 0210479ED8 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019001)(6009001)(428001)(199002)(164054003)(377454003)(189002)(479174003)(53754006)(51704005)(24454002)(83322001)(2656002)(21056001)(36756003)(66066001)(76482001)(20776003)(101416001)(86362001)(4396001)(92726001)(79102001)(77982001)(81542001)(74502001)(74662001)(76176999)(99286001)(46102001)(80022001)(87936001)(85852003)(50986999)(81342001)(19580395003)(77096999)(19580405001)(54356999)(99396002)(83072002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:CO2PR06MB683; H:CO2PR06MB682.namprd06.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (: isoc.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=dvorshak@isoc.org; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: isoc.org Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bnbsg/763Mziy0aYGugenOzwSxraxZO2M Cc: Jari Arkko Subject: Re: [Bnbsg] BnB IoT Messaging X-BeenThere: bnbsg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 16:50:54 -0000 Hi all, Are we sure we want to send this out now instead in prep. For Hawaii? I say this because we already have multiple commitments signed that may or may not follow the IoT theme. We could not wait until we had that fleshed out to begin filling tables. On 5/13/14, 12:27 PM, "Alexa Morris" wrote: >Hi Everyone, > >Alex and Pascal generously responded to my request for a =B3call for demos= =B2 >writeup for the upcoming IoT-themed BnB event in Toronto. Their draft is >attached and embedded below, please review and comment. > >After any tweaking, I think that we should send this information out to >the appropriate WG mailing lists and to the mail IETF list as well. >Potential participants will be asked to send their questions about >participating to bnbsg@ietf.org. The info will also go on the website >(as News and under IETF 90 area) and hopefully it will assist Drew in his >participant recruitment efforts. > >We are under a tight timeframe, so I=B9d like to send out the call for >participants before the end of the week (ideally Thursday). > >Thanks, >Alexa > > >=8B=8B > > Bits-N-Bites - Internet of Things > --------------------------------- > > Call for Demos > >The arrival of Things connected to the Internet in the recent years >brought to life new applications. In the consumer segment, numerous >small and smart devices add new dimensions to existing domains such >automatic home management, in-vehicle entertainment, eHealth, fitness >and more. A growing enthusiasm in novel market suggests >imminent and impressive deployments: billions new connected devices >expected by year 2020. > >In professional segments, examples abound of the use of connected Things >for=20 >future manufacturing and Machine-to-Machine communications. As of today, >factory networks primarily rely on wired communication networks to >support=20 >Industrial Automation and Control Systems. On the other hand, Wireless >Sensor Networks have the power to extend the reach of Monitoring and >Control=20 >to gather unused measurements beyond what is physically and economically >possible with wires; the collection of these measurements by widely >distributed=20 >sensing devices and their processing by Big Data analytics yield the next >degree of process optimization, a vision known as the Industrial >Internet. This =20 >will require the combination of the best of IT and OT technologies >together,=20 >forming the IT/OT convergence. > >Despite the word 'connected' being commonly employed in this context, >the current Thing topologies do not use IP as known in the non-Things >world. Instead, intermediary albeit small Boxes translating between >IP and Thing-specific protocols are in common use (for >e.g. application-layer conversions, IP to non-IP address translation, >IP header compression, 'mesh-under' non-IP routing and more). This >leads to typical 'multi-stage' topology such as: a temperature sensor >connected to a smartwatch using a hardware communication protocol, >further connected to a smartphone using a short-range non-IP protocol >and finally connected to a WiFi router using a full IP link. > > >On another hand, past experience in the development of the Internet >suggests that if intermediary Boxes are less present in the path - >dumb networks (thus reducing the 'multi-stage' Thing topology to a >minimum of 2 stages and down to 1, ideally), the full potential of >end-to-end principles may be uncovered: each Thing may be directly >queried, their number may grow in a more scalable way and richer >applications may offer features beyond what's talked about these days. > >When deploying multi-stage Thing topologies, two trends compete: IP >protocols are enhanced and transformed into less end-to-end protocols >(address translation, header compression, 'mesh under' routing and >more) and, alternatively, existing IP protocols are reduced to their >bare minimum such as to fit in reduced Things (reduced CPU frequency >and number of transistors, dimensions and energy consumption). > >Demonstrations of these IoT concepts are called for. The >demonstrations should exhibit recent developments of IP protocols for >IoT networks (6lowpan adaptation layers, MANET and RPL routing >protocols, 6tsch time-constrained communications, CoAP app-layer >protocols) as well as demonstrations of the tendency of bringing the >known IPv6 as close as possible to the Thing - minimum set of >unmodified IPv6, Neighbor Discovery, DHCP, HTTP, IKEv2. > >Examples of demos include and are certainly not limited to: >- home automation controller using SNMP for HVAC and ambient > temperature, electricity counter. >- industrial-grade Wireless Sensor Network products >- scalable wireless designs and existing deployments >- IPv6 end-to-end and backbone interconnection >- tablet summarizing status of widespread devices through > heterogeneous link connections. >- smart belt collecting body information with low-energy communication > protocols. >- vehicle interior connected designs, vehicle-to-road sensor-based > communications. >- sensor-assisted autonomous mobile Things (mono-, bi-, quad- wheeled > or propelled devices). > >Demonstrations may be realized in different manners: >- the Things deployed on a table, relying on local connections and > alternatively exhibiting remote access across the Internet. >- poster describing demo. >- video sequence showing a lab demonstration. > >Each demonstration must position with respect to questions such as >- use of IP protocols: IPv4 or IPv6? >- intermediary Box or not? >- on the market now, in the prototype stage, in an idea phase? >- part of a collaborative project? gov't-funded or private? > > > > > > From nobody Tue May 13 11:55:02 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bnbsg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bnbsg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F272C1A0131 for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 11:54:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.602 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.602 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PqTN_sum2YyE for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 11:54:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from na01-by2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-by2lp0239.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.239]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C51F1A0096 for ; Tue, 13 May 2014 11:54:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.10] (71.171.113.19) by BY2PR06MB234.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.242.47.20) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.939.12; Tue, 13 May 2014 18:54:49 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" MIME-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) From: Ray Pelletier In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 14:54:42 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: To: Drew Dvorshak X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) X-Originating-IP: [71.171.113.19] X-ClientProxiedBy: BLUPR07CA090.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (25.160.24.45) To BY2PR06MB234.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.242.47.20) X-Forefront-PRVS: 0210479ED8 X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019001)(6049001)(6009001)(428001)(164054003)(189002)(199002)(377454003)(479174003)(51704005)(53754006)(92726001)(85852003)(74662001)(57306001)(89996001)(77982001)(76482001)(92566001)(15975445006)(101416001)(83072002)(31966008)(83322001)(19580395003)(74502001)(20776003)(83716003)(87286001)(88136002)(50466002)(81342001)(87976001)(76176999)(80022001)(99396002)(21056001)(77156001)(66066001)(36756003)(4396001)(50986999)(19580405001)(86362001)(42186004)(64706001)(23746002)(62966002)(79102001)(81542001)(100916002)(33656001)(50226001)(102836001)(47776003)(82746002)(46102001); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BY2PR06MB234; H:[10.0.1.10]; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; Received-SPF: None (: isoc.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) Authentication-Results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=rpelletier@isoc.org; X-OriginatorOrg: isoc.org Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bnbsg/u-foHxf_23CT-pKB_YdKLyAV-Kw Cc: Alexa Morris , "bnbsg@ietf.org" , Jari Arkko Subject: Re: [Bnbsg] BnB IoT Messaging X-BeenThere: bnbsg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 18:55:00 -0000 On May 13, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Drew Dvorshak wrote: > Hi all, > Are we sure we want to send this out now instead in prep. For Hawaii? = I > say this because we already have multiple commitments signed that may = or > may not follow the IoT theme. We could not wait until we had that = fleshed > out to begin filling tables. We had said we were going to experiment with Themes to see if it made a=20= difference in identifying, attracting and closing on possible sponsors, = as=20 well as adding to the event=92s success. This is an appropriate outreach and was done with guidance from those in = the know about the topic. Let=92s try it.=20 Ray >=20 > On 5/13/14, 12:27 PM, "Alexa Morris" wrote: >=20 >> Hi Everyone, >>=20 >> Alex and Pascal generously responded to my request for a =B3call for = demos=B2 >> writeup for the upcoming IoT-themed BnB event in Toronto. Their draft = is >> attached and embedded below, please review and comment. >>=20 >> After any tweaking, I think that we should send this information out = to >> the appropriate WG mailing lists and to the mail IETF list as well. >> Potential participants will be asked to send their questions about >> participating to bnbsg@ietf.org. The info will also go on the = website >> (as News and under IETF 90 area) and hopefully it will assist Drew in = his >> participant recruitment efforts. >>=20 >> We are under a tight timeframe, so I=B9d like to send out the call = for >> participants before the end of the week (ideally Thursday). >>=20 >> Thanks, >> Alexa >>=20 >>=20 >> =8B=8B >>=20 >> Bits-N-Bites - Internet of Things >> --------------------------------- >>=20 >> Call for Demos >>=20 >> The arrival of Things connected to the Internet in the recent years >> brought to life new applications. In the consumer segment, numerous >> small and smart devices add new dimensions to existing domains such >> automatic home management, in-vehicle entertainment, eHealth, fitness >> and more. A growing enthusiasm in novel market suggests >> imminent and impressive deployments: billions new connected devices >> expected by year 2020. >>=20 >> In professional segments, examples abound of the use of connected = Things >> for=20 >> future manufacturing and Machine-to-Machine communications. As of = today, >> factory networks primarily rely on wired communication networks to >> support=20 >> Industrial Automation and Control Systems. On the other hand, = Wireless >> Sensor Networks have the power to extend the reach of Monitoring and >> Control=20 >> to gather unused measurements beyond what is physically and = economically >> possible with wires; the collection of these measurements by widely >> distributed=20 >> sensing devices and their processing by Big Data analytics yield the = next >> degree of process optimization, a vision known as the Industrial >> Internet. This =20 >> will require the combination of the best of IT and OT technologies >> together,=20 >> forming the IT/OT convergence. >>=20 >> Despite the word 'connected' being commonly employed in this context, >> the current Thing topologies do not use IP as known in the non-Things >> world. Instead, intermediary albeit small Boxes translating between >> IP and Thing-specific protocols are in common use (for >> e.g. application-layer conversions, IP to non-IP address translation, >> IP header compression, 'mesh-under' non-IP routing and more). This >> leads to typical 'multi-stage' topology such as: a temperature sensor >> connected to a smartwatch using a hardware communication protocol, >> further connected to a smartphone using a short-range non-IP protocol >> and finally connected to a WiFi router using a full IP link. >>=20 >>=20 >> On another hand, past experience in the development of the Internet >> suggests that if intermediary Boxes are less present in the path - >> dumb networks (thus reducing the 'multi-stage' Thing topology to a >> minimum of 2 stages and down to 1, ideally), the full potential of >> end-to-end principles may be uncovered: each Thing may be directly >> queried, their number may grow in a more scalable way and richer >> applications may offer features beyond what's talked about these = days. >>=20 >> When deploying multi-stage Thing topologies, two trends compete: IP >> protocols are enhanced and transformed into less end-to-end protocols >> (address translation, header compression, 'mesh under' routing and >> more) and, alternatively, existing IP protocols are reduced to their >> bare minimum such as to fit in reduced Things (reduced CPU frequency >> and number of transistors, dimensions and energy consumption). >>=20 >> Demonstrations of these IoT concepts are called for. The >> demonstrations should exhibit recent developments of IP protocols for >> IoT networks (6lowpan adaptation layers, MANET and RPL routing >> protocols, 6tsch time-constrained communications, CoAP app-layer >> protocols) as well as demonstrations of the tendency of bringing the >> known IPv6 as close as possible to the Thing - minimum set of >> unmodified IPv6, Neighbor Discovery, DHCP, HTTP, IKEv2. >>=20 >> Examples of demos include and are certainly not limited to: >> - home automation controller using SNMP for HVAC and ambient >> temperature, electricity counter. >> - industrial-grade Wireless Sensor Network products >> - scalable wireless designs and existing deployments >> - IPv6 end-to-end and backbone interconnection >> - tablet summarizing status of widespread devices through >> heterogeneous link connections. >> - smart belt collecting body information with low-energy = communication >> protocols. >> - vehicle interior connected designs, vehicle-to-road sensor-based >> communications. >> - sensor-assisted autonomous mobile Things (mono-, bi-, quad- wheeled >> or propelled devices). >>=20 >> Demonstrations may be realized in different manners: >> - the Things deployed on a table, relying on local connections and >> alternatively exhibiting remote access across the Internet. >> - poster describing demo. >> - video sequence showing a lab demonstration. >>=20 >> Each demonstration must position with respect to questions such as >> - use of IP protocols: IPv4 or IPv6? >> - intermediary Box or not? >> - on the market now, in the prototype stage, in an idea phase? >> - part of a collaborative project? gov't-funded or private? >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Bnbsg mailing list > Bnbsg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bnbsg From nobody Wed May 14 07:14:52 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bnbsg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bnbsg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com 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ESMTPSA id B241A1E12A4 for ; Fri, 16 May 2014 08:27:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephanie McCammon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 08:29:16 -0700 To: bnbsg@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bnbsg/TMbMLMzyqMOyGL3mIxl_jjUFBL8 Subject: [Bnbsg] IETF 90 BnB Page X-BeenThere: bnbsg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 15:29:25 -0000 Hello Everyone, Alexa mentioned in a previous email that we wanted to put information = onto a webpage that highlighted the Bits-n-Bites theme for IETF 90. = Below is a link to the page we created. Please let us know if you have = any comments or questions regarding the page. http://www.ietf.org/meeting/90/90-bits-n-bites.html Thanks, Stephanie McCammon IETF Project Manager 48377 Fremont Blvd, Ste. 117 Fremont, CA 94538 T: +1.510.492.4081 F: +1.510.492.4001 Association Management Solutions (AMS) Forum Management, Meeting, and Event Planning www.amsl.com From nobody Fri May 16 11:28:36 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bnbsg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bnbsg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF161A02B8 for ; Fri, 16 May 2014 11:10:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -15.152 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-15.152 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DirEgORUo6Cd for ; Fri, 16 May 2014 11:10:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com [173.37.86.74]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78DC51A02A5 for ; Fri, 16 May 2014 11:10:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1217; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1400263842; x=1401473442; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=/tBoAlis1fGZmyygXScOQ/XCPT/pMX0Llfk7LQBnSa0=; b=CGTQQJFJyDh5uDPOYCfKaMdLf/i7hNGaGNEHjKaD9ejG++KKlszeZ/v0 Med52uRNUJwOboB3xxbxu2ovZl7l2r5XGZzLGnU1K5fn8jsTu8YFD5MmJ Tx1adR/hZL/Ay6sj3TjehU8il473yRNIlTSXUu8+C7fsfmbXm+3+OAzpX Y=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgUFAEdUdlOtJV2Z/2dsb2JhbABWA4MGT70PhzsBgRcWdIIlAQEBAwEBAQFGJQsFCwIBCEYnCyUCBA4FCRKIHggN0XgXjW0RAR0jEAIFEYMagRUEiVqPfpMZgzdtgQo X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,1068,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="325538642" Received: from rcdn-core-2.cisco.com ([173.37.93.153]) by rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 May 2014 18:10:17 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x13.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x13.cisco.com [173.36.12.87]) by rcdn-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s4GIAFe4022947 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Fri, 16 May 2014 18:10:16 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-x01.cisco.com ([169.254.1.238]) by xhc-aln-x13.cisco.com ([173.36.12.87]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Fri, 16 May 2014 13:10:15 -0500 From: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" To: Stephanie McCammon Thread-Topic: [Bnbsg] IETF 90 BnB Page Thread-Index: AQHPcRud8atHdXAO20SjldSItThXbJtDgfV4 Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 18:10:15 +0000 Message-ID: <67A79968-4299-49C7-9944-D42C1722C044@cisco.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bnbsg/sfxoH2vb3WB7PFEyFyTL3M-V_cc Cc: "bnbsg@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Bnbsg] IETF 90 BnB Page X-BeenThere: bnbsg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 18:10:51 -0000 Hi Stephanie I think you changed 'industrial' into 'professional' world which was not in= tended. We really mean industrial automation control and monitoring systems= .=20 Also we probably want to expand IT and OT the latter being Operational Tech= nology, that os industrial networks Cheers Pascal > Le 16 mai 2014 =E0 17:29, "Stephanie McCammon" a =E9= crit : >=20 >=20 >=20 > Hello Everyone, >=20 > Alexa mentioned in a previous email that we wanted to put information ont= o a webpage that highlighted the Bits-n-Bites theme for IETF 90. Below is = a link to the page we created. Please let us know if you have any comments= or questions regarding the page. >=20 > http://www.ietf.org/meeting/90/90-bits-n-bites.html >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Stephanie McCammon > IETF Project Manager > 48377 Fremont Blvd, Ste. 117 > Fremont, CA 94538 > T: +1.510.492.4081 > F: +1.510.492.4001 >=20 > Association Management Solutions (AMS) > Forum Management, Meeting, and Event Planning > www.amsl.com >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Bnbsg mailing list > Bnbsg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bnbsg From nobody Mon May 19 13:20:56 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bnbsg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bnbsg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF4D1A0391 for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 13:20:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.148 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.148 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h2dnA8N_rraB for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 13:20:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::28]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C5A1A022A for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 13:20:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 801791E59C7; Mon, 19 May 2014 13:20:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c9a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sUlwJgrjzNvf; Mon, 19 May 2014 13:20:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (99-110-51-88.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net [99.110.51.88]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 55F891E59C6; Mon, 19 May 2014 13:20:23 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) From: Stephanie McCammon In-Reply-To: <67A79968-4299-49C7-9944-D42C1722C044@cisco.com> Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 13:20:46 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <67A79968-4299-49C7-9944-D42C1722C044@cisco.com> To: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bnbsg/qQ4fzZa_fiiuDgt2sWI5Ocrxwr4 Cc: "bnbsg@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Bnbsg] IETF 90 BnB Page X-BeenThere: bnbsg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 20:20:54 -0000 Hi Pascal, Thank you for your feedback, it=92s greatly appreciated. I have edited = the page to reflect your comments. Thanks! Stephanie McCammon IETF Project Manager 48377 Fremont Blvd, Ste. 117 Fremont, CA 94538 T: +1.510.492.4081 F: +1.510.492.4001 Association Management Solutions (AMS) Forum Management, Meeting, and Event Planning www.amsl.com On May 16, 2014, at 11:10 , Pascal Thubert (pthubert) = wrote: Hi Stephanie I think you changed 'industrial' into 'professional' world which was not = intended. We really mean industrial automation control and monitoring = systems.=20 Also we probably want to expand IT and OT the latter being Operational = Technology, that os industrial networks Cheers Pascal > Le 16 mai 2014 =E0 17:29, "Stephanie McCammon" a = =E9crit : >=20 >=20 >=20 > Hello Everyone, >=20 > Alexa mentioned in a previous email that we wanted to put information = onto a webpage that highlighted the Bits-n-Bites theme for IETF 90. = Below is a link to the page we created. Please let us know if you have = any comments or questions regarding the page. >=20 > http://www.ietf.org/meeting/90/90-bits-n-bites.html >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Stephanie McCammon > IETF Project Manager > 48377 Fremont Blvd, Ste. 117 > Fremont, CA 94538 > T: +1.510.492.4081 > F: +1.510.492.4001 >=20 > Association Management Solutions (AMS) > Forum Management, Meeting, and Event Planning > www.amsl.com >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Bnbsg mailing list > Bnbsg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bnbsg _______________________________________________ Bnbsg mailing list Bnbsg@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bnbsg From nobody Mon May 19 22:03:55 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bnbsg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bnbsg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279EB1A0278 for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 22:03:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.252 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.252 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, MANGLED_WRLDWD=2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hh_2vVxSbD9Z for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 22:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::28]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04AF01A0234 for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 22:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 245931E59CB for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 22:03:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c9a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dTGYOcRIhj2r for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 22:03:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.21] (c-69-181-66-243.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [69.181.66.243]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F2BD71E59C8 for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 22:03:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Alexa Morris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4AA606CE-D410-450D-97E9-F43CFC64F84D@amsl.com> Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 22:03:52 -0700 To: bnbsg@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bnbsg/_Xwk1S_2i28l4xiY1C1fgsyCnEk Subject: [Bnbsg] Participate in IETF 90 Bits-N-Bites: Internet of Things (IoT) X-BeenThere: bnbsg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 05:03:54 -0000 Hi Everyone, Finally getting this out to all of you. I would like to send an email to = the relevant working group lists tomorrow (Tuesday). The below is = essentially the language we have on the website, which was taken from = the text prepared by Alex and Pascal. Please send me any comments at = your earliest convenience. Question: I=92m not sure what the sentence at = the end means when it says, =93Things deployed on a table, relying on = local connections and alternatively exhibiting remote access across the = Internet=94 =97 does that mean that it will use the local IETF network = but also potentially access devices or things that are external to the = IETF network? If so, could we rephrase it to say, "Things deployed on a = table, connecting via the local IETF network in Toronto and/or = demonstrating remote access across the Internet.=94 Or is the sentence = clear enough as is and perhaps it=92s just my own lack of understanding = that is the issue :-) Also, is this the complete list of WG lists that we should send the = email to:=20 - 6lo WG - 6tisch WG - RoLL WG - lwig WG - ACE BoF - Core WG +++++++ Bits-N-Bites at IETF 90 in Toronto will focus on the Internet of Things, = and the IETF invites you and your organization to participate! The arrival of Things connected to the Internet in recent years has = given life to new applications in both the consumer and industrial = market segments. We are surrounded by products that utilize connectivity = and a growing enthusiasm suggests imminent and impressive deployments: = billions of new connected devices are expected by year 2020. In the = industrial world, wide spread wireless sensoring devices that collect = data and measurements will move us into the next phase of process = optimization. This will require the combination of the best of = Information Technology (IT) and Operational Technology (OT), forming the = IT/OT convergence. When deploying multi-stage Thing topologies, two trends compete: IP = protocols are enhanced and transformed into less end-to-end protocols = (address translation, header compression, 'mesh under' routing and more) = and, alternatively, existing IP protocols are reduced to their bare = minimum such as to fit in reduced Things (reduced CPU frequency and = number of transistors, dimensions and energy consumption). IETF 90 demonstrations should exhibit recent developments of IP = protocols for IoT networks (6lowpan adaptation layers, MANET and RPL = routing protocols, 6tsch time-constrained communications, CoAP app-layer = protocols) as well as demonstrations of the tendency of bringing the = known IPv6 as close as possible to the Thing - minimum set of unmodified = IPv6, Neighbor Discovery, DHCP, HTTP, IKEv2. Does your organization want to reach 1,200 Internet engineers and = demonstrate your IoT technologies and usage of IETF protocols? This is = your opportunity to show leading industry professionals the latest and = greatest of what you do in a social and interactive setting. Examples of demos include, but are not limited, to: =95 home automation controller using SNMP for HVAC and ambient = temperature, electricity counter; =95 industrial-grade Wireless Sensor Network products; =95 scalable wireless designs and existing deployments; =95 IPv6 end-to-end and backbone interconnection; =95 tablet summarizing status of widespread devices through = heterogeneous link connections; =95 smart belt collecting body information with low-energy communication = protocols; =95 vehicle interior connected designs, vehicle-to-road sensor-based = communications; =95 sensor-assisted autonomous mobile Things (mono-, bi-, quad- wheeled = or propelled devices). There many ways to configure your demo, such as:=20 =95 Things deployed on a table, relying on local connections and = alternatively exhibiting remote access across the Internet; =95 a poster describing a demo; =95 video sequence showing a lab demonstration. For information about IETF 90 Bits-N-Bites, please see = http://www.ietf.org/meeting/90/90-bits-n-bites.html or send email to = bnbsg@ietf.org. Regards, Alexa ---------- Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001 Email: amorris@amsl.com Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning www.amsl.com From nobody Tue May 20 02:31:40 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bnbsg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bnbsg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D74B1A05CB for ; Tue, 20 May 2014 02:31:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.283 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.283 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-0.5, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, MANGLED_WRLDWD=2.3, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LH0LZQICJvBB for ; Tue, 20 May 2014 02:31:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oxalide-out.extra.cea.fr (oxalide-out.extra.cea.fr [132.168.224.8]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D0A581A059F for ; Tue, 20 May 2014 02:31:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by oxalide.extra.cea.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/CEAnet-Internet-out-2.3) with ESMTP id s4K9VIOV022221; Tue, 20 May 2014 11:31:18 +0200 Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 30CC12024F9; Tue, 20 May 2014 11:32:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from muguet1.intra.cea.fr (muguet1.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.6]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 233C22024F1; Tue, 20 May 2014 11:32:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (is010446-4.intra.cea.fr [10.8.33.116]) by muguet1.intra.cea.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/CEAnet-Intranet-out-1.2) with ESMTP id s4K9V8Km032635; Tue, 20 May 2014 11:31:17 +0200 Message-ID: <537B20DC.8030906@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 11:31:08 +0200 From: Alexandru Petrescu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexa Morris References: <4AA606CE-D410-450D-97E9-F43CFC64F84D@amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <4AA606CE-D410-450D-97E9-F43CFC64F84D@amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bnbsg/yFLhaxhbuP0Y_E8Tt_b9qkJkr5A Cc: bnbsg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Bnbsg] Participate in IETF 90 Bits-N-Bites: Internet of Things (IoT) X-BeenThere: bnbsg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 09:31:39 -0000 Hi Alexa, Makes sense to me. Please see below some comments. Le 20/05/2014 07:03, Alexa Morris a écrit : > Hi Everyone, > > Finally getting this out to all of you. I would like to send an > email to the relevant working group lists tomorrow (Tuesday). The > below is essentially the language we have on the website, which was > taken from the text prepared by Alex and Pascal. Please send me any > comments at your earliest convenience. Below. > Question: I’m not sure what the sentence at the end means when it > says, “Things deployed on a table, relying on local connections and > alternatively exhibiting remote access across the Internet” — does > that mean that it will use the local IETF network but also > potentially access devices or things that are external to the IETF > network? Yes, that could be the case. A demo on-table in Toronto may access sensor devices across the Internet located in other country. > If so, could we rephrase it to say, "Things deployed on a table, > connecting via the local IETF network in Toronto and/or > demonstrating remote access across the Internet.” Yes, that reads better. > Or is the sentence clear enough as is and perhaps it’s just my own > lack of understanding that is the issue :-) > > Also, is this the complete list of WG lists that we should send the > email to: > > - 6lo WG - 6tisch WG - RoLL WG - lwig WG - ACE BoF - Core WG In the illustration at http://www.ietf.org/meeting/90/90-bits-n-bites.html I noticed a position marker up in the picture. I think that is very relevant. Maybe the call for demos could be enhanced with a geographical networking aspect. Maybe just a few words here and there. I would suggest adding its@ietf.org (the GeoNet BoF) since it focuses on geonet and has a side use-case for vehicular communications. And also geopriv@ietf.org (the GeoPriv WG). This covers people with geo-location experience who may be interested in demoing IoT geo-localization aspects. Because typically geo-enabled devices are small and thus Things (e.g. GPS receiver), important in vehicular communications (geonet/its topic: dead-reckoning enhancements for enhanced GPS localization, geo-dissemination), service applications on smartphones (geopriv WG topics: google "geofeeds", IP-to-LatLong-to-CivicAddress resolution mechanisms). Alex > > +++++++ > > Bits-N-Bites at IETF 90 in Toronto will focus on the Internet of > Things, and the IETF invites you and your organization to > participate! > > The arrival of Things connected to the Internet in recent years has > given life to new applications in both the consumer and industrial > market segments. We are surrounded by products that utilize > connectivity and a growing enthusiasm suggests imminent and > impressive deployments: billions of new connected devices are > expected by year 2020. In the industrial world, wide spread > wireless sensoring devices that collect data and measurements will > move us into the next phase of process optimization. This will > require the combination of the best of Information Technology (IT) > and Operational Technology (OT), forming the IT/OT convergence. > > When deploying multi-stage Thing topologies, two trends compete: IP > protocols are enhanced and transformed into less end-to-end > protocols (address translation, header compression, 'mesh under' > routing and more) and, alternatively, existing IP protocols are > reduced to their bare minimum such as to fit in reduced Things > (reduced CPU frequency and number of transistors, dimensions and > energy consumption). > > IETF 90 demonstrations should exhibit recent developments of IP > protocols for IoT networks (6lowpan adaptation layers, MANET and RPL > routing protocols, 6tsch time-constrained communications, CoAP > app-layer protocols) as well as demonstrations of the tendency of > bringing the known IPv6 as close as possible to the Thing - minimum > set of unmodified IPv6, Neighbor Discovery, DHCP, HTTP, IKEv2. > > Does your organization want to reach 1,200 Internet engineers and > demonstrate your IoT technologies and usage of IETF protocols? This > is your opportunity to show leading industry professionals the > latest and greatest of what you do in a social and interactive > setting. > > Examples of demos include, but are not limited, to: > > • home automation controller using SNMP for HVAC and ambient > temperature, electricity counter; • industrial-grade Wireless Sensor > Network products; • scalable wireless designs and existing > deployments; • IPv6 end-to-end and backbone interconnection; • > tablet summarizing status of widespread devices through heterogeneous > link connections; • smart belt collecting body information with > low-energy communication protocols; • vehicle interior connected > designs, vehicle-to-road sensor-based communications; • > sensor-assisted autonomous mobile Things (mono-, bi-, quad- wheeled > or propelled devices). > > There many ways to configure your demo, such as: > > • Things deployed on a table, relying on local connections and > alternatively exhibiting remote access across the Internet; • a > poster describing a demo; • video sequence showing a lab > demonstration. > > For information about IETF 90 Bits-N-Bites, please see > http://www.ietf.org/meeting/90/90-bits-n-bites.html or send email to > bnbsg@ietf.org. > > Regards, Alexa > > > ---------- Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF 48377 Fremont > Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: > +1.510.492.4001 Email: amorris@amsl.com > > Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) Forum Management, > Meeting and Event Planning www.amsl.com > > _______________________________________________ Bnbsg mailing list > Bnbsg@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bnbsg > From nobody Tue May 20 06:48:06 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bnbsg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bnbsg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB6D1A06F0 for ; Tue, 20 May 2014 06:47:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.252 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.252 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, MANGLED_WRLDWD=2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9g5eSHOxOSe1 for ; Tue, 20 May 2014 06:47:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::28]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B5D1A043E for ; Tue, 20 May 2014 06:47:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E66DE1E45C0; Tue, 20 May 2014 06:47:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c9a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GRudxyHIUoXi; Tue, 20 May 2014 06:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.21] (c-69-181-66-243.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [69.181.66.243]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B576E1E12A7; Tue, 20 May 2014 06:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) From: Alexa Morris In-Reply-To: <537B20DC.8030906@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 06:47:54 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <599BE3EC-BBAE-4D07-9931-EDE0C45520F5@amsl.com> References: <4AA606CE-D410-450D-97E9-F43CFC64F84D@amsl.com> <537B20DC.8030906@gmail.com> To: Alexandru Petrescu X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bnbsg/XQn09OjEMyJ98VZr7_khqsi_mF8 Cc: bnbsg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Bnbsg] Participate in IETF 90 Bits-N-Bites: Internet of Things (IoT) X-BeenThere: bnbsg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 13:47:57 -0000 Alex, Thanks so much for your feedback! I modified the email below to include = some small geo-networking reference. Basically in the paragraph about = IETF 90 demonstrations I added, "Demonstrations on geo-networking and = the surrounding privacy issues are also welcome.=94 and then I included = your suggested demo topics in the list of demo examples that are = bulleted. See below for proposed email: +++++++ Bits-N-Bites at IETF 90 in Toronto will focus on the Internet of Things, = and the IETF invites you and your organization to participate! The arrival of Things connected to the Internet in recent years has = given life to new applications in both the consumer and industrial = market segments. We are surrounded by products that utilize connectivity = and a growing enthusiasm suggests imminent and impressive deployments: = billions of new connected devices are expected by year 2020. In the = industrial world, wide spread wireless sensoring devices that collect = data and measurements will move us into the next phase of process = optimization. This will require the combination of the best of = Information Technology (IT) and Operational Technology (OT), forming the = IT/OT convergence. When deploying multi-stage Thing topologies, two trends compete: IP = protocols are enhanced and transformed into less end-to-end protocols = (address translation, header compression, 'mesh under' routing and more) = and, alternatively, existing IP protocols are reduced to their bare = minimum such as to fit in reduced Things (reduced CPU frequency and = number of transistors, dimensions and energy consumption). IETF 90 demonstrations should exhibit recent developments of IP = protocols for IoT networks (6lowpan adaptation layers, MANET and RPL = routing protocols, 6tsch time-constrained communications, CoAP app-layer = protocols) as well as demonstrations of the tendency of bringing the = known IPv6 as close as possible to the Thing - minimum set of unmodified = IPv6, Neighbor Discovery, DHCP, HTTP, IKEv2. Demonstrations on = geo-networking and the surrounding privacy issues are also welcome. =20 Does your organization want to reach 1,200 Internet engineers and = demonstrate your IoT technologies and usage of IETF protocols? This is = your opportunity to show leading industry professionals the latest and = greatest of what you do in a social and interactive setting. Examples of demos include, but are not limited, to: =95 home automation controller using SNMP for HVAC and ambient = temperature, electricity counter; =95 industrial-grade Wireless Sensor Network products; =95 scalable wireless designs and existing deployments; =95 IPv6 end-to-end and backbone interconnection; =95 tablet summarizing status of widespread devices through = heterogeneous link connections; =95 smart belt collecting body information with low-energy communication = protocols; =95 vehicle interior connected designs, vehicle-to-road sensor-based = communications; =95 sensor-assisted autonomous mobile Things (mono-, bi-, quad- wheeled = or propelled devices); =95 vehicular communications (e.g. dead-reckoning enhancements for = enhanced GPS localization, geo-dissemination); =95 service applications on smartphones (google "geofeeds", = IP-to-LatLong-to-CivicAddress resolution mechanisms). There many ways to configure your demo, such as:=20 =95 Things deployed on a table, relying on local connections and = alternatively exhibiting remote access across the Internet; =95 a poster describing a demo; =95 video sequence showing a lab demonstration. For information about IETF 90 Bits-N-Bites, please see = http://www.ietf.org/meeting/90/90-bits-n-bites.html or send email to = bnbsg@ietf.org. Regards, Alexa On May 20, 2014, at 2:31 AM, Alexandru Petrescu = wrote: > Hi Alexa, >=20 > Makes sense to me. Please see below some comments. >=20 > Le 20/05/2014 07:03, Alexa Morris a =E9crit : >> Hi Everyone, >>=20 >> Finally getting this out to all of you. I would like to send an >> email to the relevant working group lists tomorrow (Tuesday). The >> below is essentially the language we have on the website, which was >> taken from the text prepared by Alex and Pascal. Please send me any >> comments at your earliest convenience. >=20 > Below. >=20 >=20 >> Question: I=92m not sure what the sentence at the end means when it >> says, =93Things deployed on a table, relying on local connections and >> alternatively exhibiting remote access across the Internet=94 =97 = does >> that mean that it will use the local IETF network but also >> potentially access devices or things that are external to the IETF >> network? >=20 > Yes, that could be the case. A demo on-table in Toronto may access > sensor devices across the Internet located in other country. >=20 >> If so, could we rephrase it to say, "Things deployed on a table, >> connecting via the local IETF network in Toronto and/or >> demonstrating remote access across the Internet.=94 >=20 > Yes, that reads better. >=20 >> Or is the sentence clear enough as is and perhaps it=92s just my own >> lack of understanding that is the issue :-) >>=20 >> Also, is this the complete list of WG lists that we should send the >> email to: >>=20 >> - 6lo WG - 6tisch WG - RoLL WG - lwig WG - ACE BoF - Core WG >=20 > In the illustration at > http://www.ietf.org/meeting/90/90-bits-n-bites.html > I noticed a position marker up in the picture. I think that is very = relevant. >=20 > Maybe the call for demos could be enhanced with a geographical = networking aspect. Maybe just a few words here and there. >=20 > I would suggest adding its@ietf.org (the GeoNet BoF) since it focuses = on geonet and has a side use-case for vehicular communications. And = also geopriv@ietf.org (the GeoPriv WG). >=20 > This covers people with geo-location experience who may be interested = in demoing IoT geo-localization aspects. Because typically geo-enabled = devices are small and thus Things (e.g. GPS receiver), important in = vehicular communications (geonet/its topic: dead-reckoning enhancements = for enhanced GPS localization, geo-dissemination), service applications = on smartphones (geopriv WG topics: google "geofeeds", = IP-to-LatLong-to-CivicAddress resolution mechanisms). >=20 > Alex >=20 >>=20 >> +++++++ >>=20 >> Bits-N-Bites at IETF 90 in Toronto will focus on the Internet of >> Things, and the IETF invites you and your organization to >> participate! >>=20 >> The arrival of Things connected to the Internet in recent years has >> given life to new applications in both the consumer and industrial >> market segments. We are surrounded by products that utilize >> connectivity and a growing enthusiasm suggests imminent and >> impressive deployments: billions of new connected devices are >> expected by year 2020. In the industrial world, wide spread >> wireless sensoring devices that collect data and measurements will >> move us into the next phase of process optimization. This will >> require the combination of the best of Information Technology (IT) >> and Operational Technology (OT), forming the IT/OT convergence. >>=20 >> When deploying multi-stage Thing topologies, two trends compete: IP >> protocols are enhanced and transformed into less end-to-end >> protocols (address translation, header compression, 'mesh under' >> routing and more) and, alternatively, existing IP protocols are >> reduced to their bare minimum such as to fit in reduced Things >> (reduced CPU frequency and number of transistors, dimensions and >> energy consumption). >>=20 >> IETF 90 demonstrations should exhibit recent developments of IP >> protocols for IoT networks (6lowpan adaptation layers, MANET and RPL >> routing protocols, 6tsch time-constrained communications, CoAP >> app-layer protocols) as well as demonstrations of the tendency of >> bringing the known IPv6 as close as possible to the Thing - minimum >> set of unmodified IPv6, Neighbor Discovery, DHCP, HTTP, IKEv2. >>=20 >> Does your organization want to reach 1,200 Internet engineers and >> demonstrate your IoT technologies and usage of IETF protocols? This >> is your opportunity to show leading industry professionals the >> latest and greatest of what you do in a social and interactive >> setting. >>=20 >> Examples of demos include, but are not limited, to: >>=20 >> =95 home automation controller using SNMP for HVAC and ambient >> temperature, electricity counter; =95 industrial-grade Wireless = Sensor >> Network products; =95 scalable wireless designs and existing >> deployments; =95 IPv6 end-to-end and backbone interconnection; =95 >> tablet summarizing status of widespread devices through heterogeneous >> link connections; =95 smart belt collecting body information with >> low-energy communication protocols; =95 vehicle interior connected >> designs, vehicle-to-road sensor-based communications; =95 >> sensor-assisted autonomous mobile Things (mono-, bi-, quad- wheeled >> or propelled devices). >>=20 >> There many ways to configure your demo, such as: >>=20 >> =95 Things deployed on a table, relying on local connections and >> alternatively exhibiting remote access across the Internet; =95 a >> poster describing a demo; =95 video sequence showing a lab >> demonstration. >>=20 >> For information about IETF 90 Bits-N-Bites, please see >> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/90/90-bits-n-bites.html or send email to >> bnbsg@ietf.org. >>=20 >> Regards, Alexa >>=20 >>=20 >> ---------- Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF 48377 Fremont >> Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: >> +1.510.492.4001 Email: amorris@amsl.com >>=20 >> Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) Forum Management, >> Meeting and Event Planning www.amsl.com >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ Bnbsg mailing list >> Bnbsg@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bnbsg >>=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Bnbsg mailing list > Bnbsg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bnbsg >=20 ---------- Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001 Email: amorris@amsl.com Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning www.amsl.com From nobody Tue May 20 07:04:18 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bnbsg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bnbsg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3EE1A06F9 for ; Tue, 20 May 2014 07:04:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.683 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.683 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, MANGLED_WRLDWD=2.3, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wNIIEenNQjqQ for ; Tue, 20 May 2014 07:04:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sainfoin-out.extra.cea.fr (sainfoin-out.extra.cea.fr [132.167.192.145]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3AFBA1A06F1 for ; Tue, 20 May 2014 07:04:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by sainfoin.extra.cea.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/CEAnet-Internet-out-2.3) with ESMTP id s4KE3kE6001464; Tue, 20 May 2014 16:03:46 +0200 Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 65F8A203D8B; Tue, 20 May 2014 16:04:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from muguet1.intra.cea.fr (muguet1.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.6]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5915F203D73; Tue, 20 May 2014 16:04:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (is010446-4.intra.cea.fr [10.8.33.116]) by muguet1.intra.cea.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/CEAnet-Intranet-out-1.2) with ESMTP id s4KE3fQC020860; Tue, 20 May 2014 16:03:45 +0200 Message-ID: <537B60BD.9040802@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 16:03:41 +0200 From: Alexandru Petrescu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexa Morris References: <4AA606CE-D410-450D-97E9-F43CFC64F84D@amsl.com> <537B20DC.8030906@gmail.com> <599BE3EC-BBAE-4D07-9931-EDE0C45520F5@amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <599BE3EC-BBAE-4D07-9931-EDE0C45520F5@amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bnbsg/PeWE86NdTvMyPHNd9xQhbjTxx18 Cc: bnbsg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Bnbsg] Participate in IETF 90 Bits-N-Bites: Internet of Things (IoT) X-BeenThere: bnbsg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 14:04:15 -0000 Hi Alexa, Thanks for the new version, makes sense. While reading it I think it could be improved, as suggested below. Le 20/05/2014 15:47, Alexa Morris a écrit : [...] > Demonstrations on geo-networking and the surrounding privacy issues > are also welcome. Demonstrations of geo-location uses in and for IP networking and the surrounding privacy issues are also welcome. > > Does your organization want to reach 1,200 Internet engineers and > demonstrate your IoT technologies and usage of IETF protocols? This > is your opportunity to show leading industry professionals the > latest and greatest of what you do in a social and interactive > setting. > > Examples of demos include, but are not limited, to: [...] > • service applications on smartphones (google "geofeeds", > IP-to-LatLong-to-CivicAddress resolution mechanisms). Smartphone applications relying on geo-localization (...). Alex > > There many ways to configure your demo, such as: > > • Things deployed on a table, relying on local connections and > alternatively exhibiting remote access across the Internet; • a > poster describing a demo; • video sequence showing a lab > demonstration. > > For information about IETF 90 Bits-N-Bites, please see > http://www.ietf.org/meeting/90/90-bits-n-bites.html or send email to > bnbsg@ietf.org. > > Regards, Alexa > > On May 20, 2014, at 2:31 AM, Alexandru Petrescu > wrote: > >> Hi Alexa, >> >> Makes sense to me. Please see below some comments. >> >> Le 20/05/2014 07:03, Alexa Morris a écrit : >>> Hi Everyone, >>> >>> Finally getting this out to all of you. I would like to send an >>> email to the relevant working group lists tomorrow (Tuesday). The >>> below is essentially the language we have on the website, which >>> was taken from the text prepared by Alex and Pascal. Please send >>> me any comments at your earliest convenience. >> >> Below. >> >> >>> Question: I’m not sure what the sentence at the end means when it >>> says, “Things deployed on a table, relying on local connections >>> and alternatively exhibiting remote access across the Internet” >>> — does that mean that it will use the local IETF network but also >>> potentially access devices or things that are external to the >>> IETF network? >> >> Yes, that could be the case. A demo on-table in Toronto may access >> sensor devices across the Internet located in other country. >> >>> If so, could we rephrase it to say, "Things deployed on a table, >>> connecting via the local IETF network in Toronto and/or >>> demonstrating remote access across the Internet.” >> >> Yes, that reads better. >> >>> Or is the sentence clear enough as is and perhaps it’s just my >>> own lack of understanding that is the issue :-) >>> >>> Also, is this the complete list of WG lists that we should send >>> the email to: >>> >>> - 6lo WG - 6tisch WG - RoLL WG - lwig WG - ACE BoF - Core WG >> >> In the illustration at >> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/90/90-bits-n-bites.html I noticed a >> position marker up in the picture. I think that is very relevant. >> >> Maybe the call for demos could be enhanced with a geographical >> networking aspect. Maybe just a few words here and there. >> >> I would suggest adding its@ietf.org (the GeoNet BoF) since it >> focuses on geonet and has a side use-case for vehicular >> communications. And also geopriv@ietf.org (the GeoPriv WG). >> >> This covers people with geo-location experience who may be >> interested in demoing IoT geo-localization aspects. Because >> typically geo-enabled devices are small and thus Things (e.g. GPS >> receiver), important in vehicular communications (geonet/its >> topic: dead-reckoning enhancements for enhanced GPS localization, >> geo-dissemination), service applications on smartphones (geopriv >> WG topics: google "geofeeds", IP-to-LatLong-to-CivicAddress >> resolution mechanisms). >> >> Alex >> >>> >>> +++++++ >>> >>> Bits-N-Bites at IETF 90 in Toronto will focus on the Internet of >>> Things, and the IETF invites you and your organization to >>> participate! >>> >>> The arrival of Things connected to the Internet in recent years >>> has given life to new applications in both the consumer and >>> industrial market segments. We are surrounded by products that >>> utilize connectivity and a growing enthusiasm suggests imminent >>> and impressive deployments: billions of new connected devices are >>> expected by year 2020. In the industrial world, wide spread >>> wireless sensoring devices that collect data and measurements >>> will move us into the next phase of process optimization. This >>> will require the combination of the best of Information >>> Technology (IT) and Operational Technology (OT), forming the >>> IT/OT convergence. >>> >>> When deploying multi-stage Thing topologies, two trends compete: >>> IP protocols are enhanced and transformed into less end-to-end >>> protocols (address translation, header compression, 'mesh under' >>> routing and more) and, alternatively, existing IP protocols are >>> reduced to their bare minimum such as to fit in reduced Things >>> (reduced CPU frequency and number of transistors, dimensions and >>> energy consumption). >>> >>> IETF 90 demonstrations should exhibit recent developments of IP >>> protocols for IoT networks (6lowpan adaptation layers, MANET and >>> RPL routing protocols, 6tsch time-constrained communications, >>> CoAP app-layer protocols) as well as demonstrations of the >>> tendency of bringing the known IPv6 as close as possible to the >>> Thing - minimum set of unmodified IPv6, Neighbor Discovery, >>> DHCP, HTTP, IKEv2. >>> >>> Does your organization want to reach 1,200 Internet engineers and >>> demonstrate your IoT technologies and usage of IETF protocols? >>> This is your opportunity to show leading industry professionals >>> the latest and greatest of what you do in a social and >>> interactive setting. >>> >>> Examples of demos include, but are not limited, to: >>> >>> • home automation controller using SNMP for HVAC and ambient >>> temperature, electricity counter; • industrial-grade Wireless >>> Sensor Network products; • scalable wireless designs and existing >>> deployments; • IPv6 end-to-end and backbone interconnection; • >>> tablet summarizing status of widespread devices through >>> heterogeneous link connections; • smart belt collecting body >>> information with low-energy communication protocols; • vehicle >>> interior connected designs, vehicle-to-road sensor-based >>> communications; • sensor-assisted autonomous mobile Things >>> (mono-, bi-, quad- wheeled or propelled devices). >>> >>> There many ways to configure your demo, such as: >>> >>> • Things deployed on a table, relying on local connections and >>> alternatively exhibiting remote access across the Internet; • a >>> poster describing a demo; • video sequence showing a lab >>> demonstration. >>> >>> For information about IETF 90 Bits-N-Bites, please see >>> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/90/90-bits-n-bites.html or send >>> email to bnbsg@ietf.org. >>> >>> Regards, Alexa >>> >>> >>> ---------- Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF 48377 Fremont >>> Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / >>> Fax: +1.510.492.4001 Email: amorris@amsl.com >>> >>> Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) Forum >>> Management, Meeting and Event Planning www.amsl.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ Bnbsg mailing >>> list Bnbsg@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bnbsg >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ Bnbsg mailing list >> Bnbsg@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bnbsg >> > > ---------- Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF 48377 Fremont > Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: > +1.510.492.4001 Email: amorris@amsl.com > > Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) Forum Management, > Meeting and Event Planning www.amsl.com > From nobody Tue May 20 07:38:26 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bnbsg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bnbsg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4041A0468 for ; Tue, 20 May 2014 07:38:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.252 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.252 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, MANGLED_WRLDWD=2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id utLq1SOsXgYv for ; Tue, 20 May 2014 07:38:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::28]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B77A1A0395 for ; Tue, 20 May 2014 07:38:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C879E1E52BD; Tue, 20 May 2014 07:37:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c9a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LJrqVGmpLCiE; Tue, 20 May 2014 07:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.21] (c-69-181-66-243.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [69.181.66.243]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A07911E45C6; Tue, 20 May 2014 07:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) From: Alexa Morris In-Reply-To: <537B60BD.9040802@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 07:38:12 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7E69CE15-4C41-4949-9713-35CE6E9409FA@amsl.com> References: <4AA606CE-D410-450D-97E9-F43CFC64F84D@amsl.com> <537B20DC.8030906@gmail.com> <599BE3EC-BBAE-4D07-9931-EDE0C45520F5@amsl.com> <537B60BD.9040802@gmail.com> To: Alexandru Petrescu X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bnbsg/o9g6Ho0nFPG9KKm9M7kpMXJyPYA Cc: bnbsg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Bnbsg] Participate in IETF 90 Bits-N-Bites: Internet of Things (IoT) X-BeenThere: bnbsg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 14:38:16 -0000 Much better, thank you! I will incorporate those right away. Alexa On May 20, 2014, at 7:03 AM, Alexandru Petrescu = wrote: > Hi Alexa, >=20 > Thanks for the new version, makes sense. >=20 > While reading it I think it could be improved, as suggested below. >=20 > Le 20/05/2014 15:47, Alexa Morris a =E9crit : > [...] >=20 >> Demonstrations on geo-networking and the surrounding privacy issues >> are also welcome. >=20 > Demonstrations of geo-location uses in and for IP networking and the > surrounding privacy issues are also welcome. >=20 >>=20 >> Does your organization want to reach 1,200 Internet engineers and >> demonstrate your IoT technologies and usage of IETF protocols? This >> is your opportunity to show leading industry professionals the >> latest and greatest of what you do in a social and interactive >> setting. >>=20 >> Examples of demos include, but are not limited, to: >=20 > [...] >> =95 service applications on smartphones (google "geofeeds", >> IP-to-LatLong-to-CivicAddress resolution mechanisms). >=20 > Smartphone applications relying on geo-localization (...). >=20 > Alex >=20 >>=20 >> There many ways to configure your demo, such as: >>=20 >> =95 Things deployed on a table, relying on local connections and >> alternatively exhibiting remote access across the Internet; =95 a >> poster describing a demo; =95 video sequence showing a lab >> demonstration. >>=20 >> For information about IETF 90 Bits-N-Bites, please see >> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/90/90-bits-n-bites.html or send email to >> bnbsg@ietf.org. >>=20 >> Regards, Alexa >>=20 >> On May 20, 2014, at 2:31 AM, Alexandru Petrescu >> wrote: >>=20 >>> Hi Alexa, >>>=20 >>> Makes sense to me. Please see below some comments. >>>=20 >>> Le 20/05/2014 07:03, Alexa Morris a =E9crit : >>>> Hi Everyone, >>>>=20 >>>> Finally getting this out to all of you. I would like to send an >>>> email to the relevant working group lists tomorrow (Tuesday). The >>>> below is essentially the language we have on the website, which >>>> was taken from the text prepared by Alex and Pascal. Please send >>>> me any comments at your earliest convenience. >>>=20 >>> Below. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> Question: I=92m not sure what the sentence at the end means when it >>>> says, =93Things deployed on a table, relying on local connections >>>> and alternatively exhibiting remote access across the Internet=94 >>>> =97 does that mean that it will use the local IETF network but also >>>> potentially access devices or things that are external to the >>>> IETF network? >>>=20 >>> Yes, that could be the case. A demo on-table in Toronto may access >>> sensor devices across the Internet located in other country. >>>=20 >>>> If so, could we rephrase it to say, "Things deployed on a table, >>>> connecting via the local IETF network in Toronto and/or >>>> demonstrating remote access across the Internet.=94 >>>=20 >>> Yes, that reads better. >>>=20 >>>> Or is the sentence clear enough as is and perhaps it=92s just my >>>> own lack of understanding that is the issue :-) >>>>=20 >>>> Also, is this the complete list of WG lists that we should send >>>> the email to: >>>>=20 >>>> - 6lo WG - 6tisch WG - RoLL WG - lwig WG - ACE BoF - Core WG >>>=20 >>> In the illustration at >>> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/90/90-bits-n-bites.html I noticed a >>> position marker up in the picture. I think that is very relevant. >>>=20 >>> Maybe the call for demos could be enhanced with a geographical >>> networking aspect. Maybe just a few words here and there. >>>=20 >>> I would suggest adding its@ietf.org (the GeoNet BoF) since it >>> focuses on geonet and has a side use-case for vehicular >>> communications. And also geopriv@ietf.org (the GeoPriv WG). >>>=20 >>> This covers people with geo-location experience who may be >>> interested in demoing IoT geo-localization aspects. Because >>> typically geo-enabled devices are small and thus Things (e.g. GPS >>> receiver), important in vehicular communications (geonet/its >>> topic: dead-reckoning enhancements for enhanced GPS localization, >>> geo-dissemination), service applications on smartphones (geopriv >>> WG topics: google "geofeeds", IP-to-LatLong-to-CivicAddress >>> resolution mechanisms). >>>=20 >>> Alex >>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> +++++++ >>>>=20 >>>> Bits-N-Bites at IETF 90 in Toronto will focus on the Internet of >>>> Things, and the IETF invites you and your organization to >>>> participate! >>>>=20 >>>> The arrival of Things connected to the Internet in recent years >>>> has given life to new applications in both the consumer and >>>> industrial market segments. We are surrounded by products that >>>> utilize connectivity and a growing enthusiasm suggests imminent >>>> and impressive deployments: billions of new connected devices are >>>> expected by year 2020. In the industrial world, wide spread >>>> wireless sensoring devices that collect data and measurements >>>> will move us into the next phase of process optimization. This >>>> will require the combination of the best of Information >>>> Technology (IT) and Operational Technology (OT), forming the >>>> IT/OT convergence. >>>>=20 >>>> When deploying multi-stage Thing topologies, two trends compete: >>>> IP protocols are enhanced and transformed into less end-to-end >>>> protocols (address translation, header compression, 'mesh under' >>>> routing and more) and, alternatively, existing IP protocols are >>>> reduced to their bare minimum such as to fit in reduced Things >>>> (reduced CPU frequency and number of transistors, dimensions and >>>> energy consumption). >>>>=20 >>>> IETF 90 demonstrations should exhibit recent developments of IP >>>> protocols for IoT networks (6lowpan adaptation layers, MANET and >>>> RPL routing protocols, 6tsch time-constrained communications, >>>> CoAP app-layer protocols) as well as demonstrations of the >>>> tendency of bringing the known IPv6 as close as possible to the >>>> Thing - minimum set of unmodified IPv6, Neighbor Discovery, >>>> DHCP, HTTP, IKEv2. >>>>=20 >>>> Does your organization want to reach 1,200 Internet engineers and >>>> demonstrate your IoT technologies and usage of IETF protocols? >>>> This is your opportunity to show leading industry professionals >>>> the latest and greatest of what you do in a social and >>>> interactive setting. >>>>=20 >>>> Examples of demos include, but are not limited, to: >>>>=20 >>>> =95 home automation controller using SNMP for HVAC and ambient >>>> temperature, electricity counter; =95 industrial-grade Wireless >>>> Sensor Network products; =95 scalable wireless designs and existing >>>> deployments; =95 IPv6 end-to-end and backbone interconnection; =95 >>>> tablet summarizing status of widespread devices through >>>> heterogeneous link connections; =95 smart belt collecting body >>>> information with low-energy communication protocols; =95 vehicle >>>> interior connected designs, vehicle-to-road sensor-based >>>> communications; =95 sensor-assisted autonomous mobile Things >>>> (mono-, bi-, quad- wheeled or propelled devices). >>>>=20 >>>> There many ways to configure your demo, such as: >>>>=20 >>>> =95 Things deployed on a table, relying on local connections and >>>> alternatively exhibiting remote access across the Internet; =95 a >>>> poster describing a demo; =95 video sequence showing a lab >>>> demonstration. >>>>=20 >>>> For information about IETF 90 Bits-N-Bites, please see >>>> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/90/90-bits-n-bites.html or send >>>> email to bnbsg@ietf.org. >>>>=20 >>>> Regards, Alexa >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> ---------- Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF 48377 Fremont >>>> Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / >>>> Fax: +1.510.492.4001 Email: amorris@amsl.com >>>>=20 >>>> Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) Forum >>>> Management, Meeting and Event Planning www.amsl.com >>>> >>>>=20 >>>> _______________________________________________ Bnbsg mailing >>>> list Bnbsg@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bnbsg >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ Bnbsg mailing list >>> Bnbsg@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bnbsg >>>=20 >>=20 >> ---------- Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF 48377 Fremont >> Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: >> +1.510.492.4001 Email: amorris@amsl.com >>=20 >> Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) Forum Management, >> Meeting and Event Planning www.amsl.com >>=20 >=20 >=20 ---------- Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001 Email: amorris@amsl.com Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning www.amsl.com From nobody Tue May 20 16:36:31 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bnbsg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bnbsg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E331A1A03C3 for ; 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Tue, 20 May 2014 16:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) From: Alexa Morris In-Reply-To: <7E69CE15-4C41-4949-9713-35CE6E9409FA@amsl.com> Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 16:36:26 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <655B9EE9-7411-4266-9ADB-89D21275D1E4@amsl.com> References: <4AA606CE-D410-450D-97E9-F43CFC64F84D@amsl.com> <537B20DC.8030906@gmail.com> <599BE3EC-BBAE-4D07-9931-EDE0C45520F5@amsl.com> <537B60BD.9040802@gmail.com> <7E69CE15-4C41-4949-9713-35CE6E9409FA@amsl.com> To: Alexandru Petrescu X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bnbsg/62cEiJmOIkkcgboVTDiFEGCt7gU Cc: bnbsg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Bnbsg] Participate in IETF 90 Bits-N-Bites: Internet of Things (IoT) X-BeenThere: bnbsg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 23:36:30 -0000 Everyone, Unless I hear differently, I will plan to send the revised text out to = the relevant wg lists either very late tonight PT or very early = tomorrow, Weds. So, if you have further comments, please send them by = 8pm PT today. Thanks! Alexa On May 20, 2014, at 7:38 AM, Alexa Morris wrote: > Much better, thank you! I will incorporate those right away. >=20 > Alexa >=20 > On May 20, 2014, at 7:03 AM, Alexandru Petrescu = wrote: >=20 >> Hi Alexa, >>=20 >> Thanks for the new version, makes sense. >>=20 >> While reading it I think it could be improved, as suggested below. >>=20 >> Le 20/05/2014 15:47, Alexa Morris a =E9crit : >> [...] >>=20 >>> Demonstrations on geo-networking and the surrounding privacy issues >>> are also welcome. >>=20 >> Demonstrations of geo-location uses in and for IP networking and the >> surrounding privacy issues are also welcome. >>=20 >>>=20 >>> Does your organization want to reach 1,200 Internet engineers and >>> demonstrate your IoT technologies and usage of IETF protocols? This >>> is your opportunity to show leading industry professionals the >>> latest and greatest of what you do in a social and interactive >>> setting. >>>=20 >>> Examples of demos include, but are not limited, to: >>=20 >> [...] >>> =95 service applications on smartphones (google "geofeeds", >>> IP-to-LatLong-to-CivicAddress resolution mechanisms). >>=20 >> Smartphone applications relying on geo-localization (...). >>=20 >> Alex >>=20 >>>=20 >>> There many ways to configure your demo, such as: >>>=20 >>> =95 Things deployed on a table, relying on local connections and >>> alternatively exhibiting remote access across the Internet; =95 a >>> poster describing a demo; =95 video sequence showing a lab >>> demonstration. >>>=20 >>> For information about IETF 90 Bits-N-Bites, please see >>> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/90/90-bits-n-bites.html or send email to >>> bnbsg@ietf.org. >>>=20 >>> Regards, Alexa >>>=20 >>> On May 20, 2014, at 2:31 AM, Alexandru Petrescu >>> wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Hi Alexa, >>>>=20 >>>> Makes sense to me. Please see below some comments. >>>>=20 >>>> Le 20/05/2014 07:03, Alexa Morris a =E9crit : >>>>> Hi Everyone, >>>>>=20 >>>>> Finally getting this out to all of you. I would like to send an >>>>> email to the relevant working group lists tomorrow (Tuesday). The >>>>> below is essentially the language we have on the website, which >>>>> was taken from the text prepared by Alex and Pascal. Please send >>>>> me any comments at your earliest convenience. >>>>=20 >>>> Below. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> Question: I=92m not sure what the sentence at the end means when = it >>>>> says, =93Things deployed on a table, relying on local connections >>>>> and alternatively exhibiting remote access across the Internet=94 >>>>> =97 does that mean that it will use the local IETF network but = also >>>>> potentially access devices or things that are external to the >>>>> IETF network? >>>>=20 >>>> Yes, that could be the case. A demo on-table in Toronto may access >>>> sensor devices across the Internet located in other country. >>>>=20 >>>>> If so, could we rephrase it to say, "Things deployed on a table, >>>>> connecting via the local IETF network in Toronto and/or >>>>> demonstrating remote access across the Internet.=94 >>>>=20 >>>> Yes, that reads better. >>>>=20 >>>>> Or is the sentence clear enough as is and perhaps it=92s just my >>>>> own lack of understanding that is the issue :-) >>>>>=20 >>>>> Also, is this the complete list of WG lists that we should send >>>>> the email to: >>>>>=20 >>>>> - 6lo WG - 6tisch WG - RoLL WG - lwig WG - ACE BoF - Core WG >>>>=20 >>>> In the illustration at >>>> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/90/90-bits-n-bites.html I noticed a >>>> position marker up in the picture. I think that is very relevant. >>>>=20 >>>> Maybe the call for demos could be enhanced with a geographical >>>> networking aspect. Maybe just a few words here and there. >>>>=20 >>>> I would suggest adding its@ietf.org (the GeoNet BoF) since it >>>> focuses on geonet and has a side use-case for vehicular >>>> communications. And also geopriv@ietf.org (the GeoPriv WG). >>>>=20 >>>> This covers people with geo-location experience who may be >>>> interested in demoing IoT geo-localization aspects. Because >>>> typically geo-enabled devices are small and thus Things (e.g. GPS >>>> receiver), important in vehicular communications (geonet/its >>>> topic: dead-reckoning enhancements for enhanced GPS localization, >>>> geo-dissemination), service applications on smartphones (geopriv >>>> WG topics: google "geofeeds", IP-to-LatLong-to-CivicAddress >>>> resolution mechanisms). >>>>=20 >>>> Alex >>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> +++++++ >>>>>=20 >>>>> Bits-N-Bites at IETF 90 in Toronto will focus on the Internet of >>>>> Things, and the IETF invites you and your organization to >>>>> participate! >>>>>=20 >>>>> The arrival of Things connected to the Internet in recent years >>>>> has given life to new applications in both the consumer and >>>>> industrial market segments. We are surrounded by products that >>>>> utilize connectivity and a growing enthusiasm suggests imminent >>>>> and impressive deployments: billions of new connected devices are >>>>> expected by year 2020. In the industrial world, wide spread >>>>> wireless sensoring devices that collect data and measurements >>>>> will move us into the next phase of process optimization. This >>>>> will require the combination of the best of Information >>>>> Technology (IT) and Operational Technology (OT), forming the >>>>> IT/OT convergence. >>>>>=20 >>>>> When deploying multi-stage Thing topologies, two trends compete: >>>>> IP protocols are enhanced and transformed into less end-to-end >>>>> protocols (address translation, header compression, 'mesh under' >>>>> routing and more) and, alternatively, existing IP protocols are >>>>> reduced to their bare minimum such as to fit in reduced Things >>>>> (reduced CPU frequency and number of transistors, dimensions and >>>>> energy consumption). >>>>>=20 >>>>> IETF 90 demonstrations should exhibit recent developments of IP >>>>> protocols for IoT networks (6lowpan adaptation layers, MANET and >>>>> RPL routing protocols, 6tsch time-constrained communications, >>>>> CoAP app-layer protocols) as well as demonstrations of the >>>>> tendency of bringing the known IPv6 as close as possible to the >>>>> Thing - minimum set of unmodified IPv6, Neighbor Discovery, >>>>> DHCP, HTTP, IKEv2. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Does your organization want to reach 1,200 Internet engineers and >>>>> demonstrate your IoT technologies and usage of IETF protocols? >>>>> This is your opportunity to show leading industry professionals >>>>> the latest and greatest of what you do in a social and >>>>> interactive setting. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Examples of demos include, but are not limited, to: >>>>>=20 >>>>> =95 home automation controller using SNMP for HVAC and ambient >>>>> temperature, electricity counter; =95 industrial-grade Wireless >>>>> Sensor Network products; =95 scalable wireless designs and = existing >>>>> deployments; =95 IPv6 end-to-end and backbone interconnection; =95 >>>>> tablet summarizing status of widespread devices through >>>>> heterogeneous link connections; =95 smart belt collecting body >>>>> information with low-energy communication protocols; =95 vehicle >>>>> interior connected designs, vehicle-to-road sensor-based >>>>> communications; =95 sensor-assisted autonomous mobile Things >>>>> (mono-, bi-, quad- wheeled or propelled devices). >>>>>=20 >>>>> There many ways to configure your demo, such as: >>>>>=20 >>>>> =95 Things deployed on a table, relying on local connections and >>>>> alternatively exhibiting remote access across the Internet; =95 a >>>>> poster describing a demo; =95 video sequence showing a lab >>>>> demonstration. >>>>>=20 >>>>> For information about IETF 90 Bits-N-Bites, please see >>>>> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/90/90-bits-n-bites.html or send >>>>> email to bnbsg@ietf.org. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Regards, Alexa >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> ---------- Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF 48377 Fremont >>>>> Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / >>>>> Fax: +1.510.492.4001 Email: amorris@amsl.com >>>>>=20 >>>>> Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) Forum >>>>> Management, Meeting and Event Planning www.amsl.com >>>>> >>>>>=20 >>>>> _______________________________________________ Bnbsg mailing >>>>> list Bnbsg@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bnbsg >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> _______________________________________________ Bnbsg mailing list >>>> Bnbsg@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bnbsg >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> ---------- Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF 48377 Fremont >>> Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: >>> +1.510.492.4001 Email: amorris@amsl.com >>>=20 >>> Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) Forum Management, >>> Meeting and Event Planning www.amsl.com >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 > ---------- > Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF > 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 > Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001 > Email: amorris@amsl.com >=20 > Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) > Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning > www.amsl.com >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Bnbsg mailing list > Bnbsg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bnbsg ---------- Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001 Email: amorris@amsl.com Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning www.amsl.com From nobody Tue May 27 12:40:05 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bnbsg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bnbsg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 855331A022A for ; 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Tue, 27 May 2014 12:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.21] (c-69-181-66-243.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [69.181.66.243]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 890F21DF11E; Tue, 27 May 2014 12:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.2\)) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C5AB6A81-0871-4AAA-A69A-57FF03BD2839" From: Alexa Morris In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 12:39:58 -0700 Message-Id: <6CF00025-566D-439F-B0DE-DBF2CDAF23FD@amsl.com> References: To: Emmanuel Baccelli X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.2) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bnbsg/rwgZxFX72YSMfu9gimCAV7flyxs Cc: bnbsg@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Bnbsg] 7.21 (5) Demo at IETF 90 Bits-N-Bytes X-BeenThere: bnbsg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 19:40:03 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_C5AB6A81-0871-4AAA-A69A-57FF03BD2839 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Emmanuel, Thanks for your interest in participation! I will consult with other = members of the BnB Steering Committee and get back to you soon. Regards, Alexa On May 26, 2014, at 1:00 PM, Emmanuel Baccelli = wrote: > Hi Alexa, >=20 >=20 > The RIOT developer community (www.riot-os.org), is interested in = bringing a demo to IETF90 Bits-N-Bytes. >=20 > However, we are a (poor) non-profit, open source community, and we = would like to know if the 10k$ participation fee also applies to our = type of organization. >=20 > If so, I guess we'll have to decline, because we have no funds for = that. >=20 > Else we could bring to IETF90 Bits-N-Bytes a home automation demo = featuring a wide range of heterogeneous IoT hardware (from 16-bit = hardware such as the EZ-Chronos watch, to 32bit hardware such as Arduino = or UDOO).=20 >=20 > The demo consists in live interaction between: >=20 > - the IoT devices on one hand, via multi-hop wireless networking based = on a standard IPv6 protocols stack (6LoWPAN, IPv6, RPL, UDP, CoAP etc.) = on top of the RIOT operating system >=20 > - humans on the other hand, who can manipulate various objects = featuring sensors, which then automatically modify the state of the = network and some actuators (e.g. lighting parameters). >=20 > Live visualisation of multi-hop wireless network interactions is also = provided to track interaction at the network level. >=20 > Let us know, >=20 > Best,=20 >=20 > Emmanuel >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Bnbsg mailing list > Bnbsg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bnbsg ---------- Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001 Email: amorris@amsl.com Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning www.amsl.com --Apple-Mail=_C5AB6A81-0871-4AAA-A69A-57FF03BD2839 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Emmanuel,

Thanks for your = interest in participation! I will consult with other members of the BnB = Steering Committee and get back to you = soon.

Regards,
Alexa

On May 26, 2014, at 1:00 PM, Emmanuel Baccelli <Emmanuel.Baccelli@inria.fr&= gt; wrote:

Hi = Alexa,


The RIOT developer community = (www.riot-os.org), is interested = in bringing a demo to IETF90 Bits-N-Bytes.

However, we are a (poor) non-profit, open source community, and we would = like to know if the 10k$ participation fee also applies to our type of = organization.

If so, I guess we'll have to = decline, because we have no funds for that.

Else we could bring to IETF90 Bits-N-Bytes a home = automation demo featuring a wide range of heterogeneous IoT hardware = (from 16-bit hardware such as the EZ-Chronos watch, to 32bit hardware = such as Arduino or UDOO). 

The demo consists in live interaction = between:

- the IoT devices on one hand, via = multi-hop wireless networking based on a standard IPv6 protocols stack = (6LoWPAN, IPv6, RPL, UDP, CoAP etc.) on top of the RIOT operating = system

- humans on the other hand, who can manipulate = various objects featuring sensors, which then automatically modify the = state of the network and some actuators (e.g. lighting = parameters).

Live visualisation of multi-hop wireless network interactions is = also provided to track interaction at the network = level.

Let us = know,

Best, 

Emmanuel


_______________________________________________
Bnbsg mailing = list
Bnbsg@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/= mailman/listinfo/bnbsg

----------
Alexa Morris / = Executive Director / IETF
48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA =  94538
Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: = +1.510.492.4001
Email: amorris@amsl.com

Managed by = Association Management Solutions (AMS)
Forum Management, Meeting and = Event Planning
www.amsl.com <http://www.amsl.com/>

= --Apple-Mail=_C5AB6A81-0871-4AAA-A69A-57FF03BD2839-- From nobody Wed May 28 13:05:45 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bnbsg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bnbsg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 852961A0601 for ; Wed, 28 May 2014 13:05:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 4.037 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.037 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FB_WORD1_END_DOLLAR=3.294, FB_WORD2_END_DOLLAR=3.294, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xRrcgMVvkBgj for ; Wed, 28 May 2014 13:05:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [4.31.198.40]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D4491A0383 for ; Wed, 28 May 2014 13:05:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA3B1E59D0; Wed, 28 May 2014 13:04:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c9a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sAjWKXrgUthw; Wed, 28 May 2014 13:04:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.21] (c-69-181-66-243.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [69.181.66.243]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 110AB1E59CA; Wed, 28 May 2014 13:04:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Alexa Morris Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A4BDF306-2406-4D46-98F2-A23464FC721B" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.2\)) Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 13:05:39 -0700 References: <6CF00025-566D-439F-B0DE-DBF2CDAF23FD@amsl.com> To: bnbsg@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.2) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bnbsg/6mKa0JwuQX01EQBy29iPIPfaHZw Cc: Jari Arkko Subject: [Bnbsg] Fwd: 7.21 (5) Demo at IETF 90 Bits-N-Bytes X-BeenThere: bnbsg@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 20:05:44 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_A4BDF306-2406-4D46-98F2-A23464FC721B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Hi Everyone, I had one idea of a company that might sponsor the RIOT developer = community=92s participation (Dyn, as they have previously interested = they are open to such an idea). However it=92s too late in the game for = them to push this through, so I=92m now looking for other ideas. This = sounds like a great demo, but we need a sponsor. Thoughts? Alexa Begin forwarded message: > From: Alexa Morris > Subject: Re: [Bnbsg] 7.21 (5) Demo at IETF 90 Bits-N-Bytes > Date: May 27, 2014 at 12:39:58 PM PDT > To: Emmanuel Baccelli > Cc: bnbsg@ietf.org >=20 > Emmanuel, >=20 > Thanks for your interest in participation! I will consult with other = members of the BnB Steering Committee and get back to you soon. >=20 > Regards, > Alexa >=20 > On May 26, 2014, at 1:00 PM, Emmanuel Baccelli = wrote: >=20 >> Hi Alexa, >>=20 >>=20 >> The RIOT developer community (www.riot-os.org), is interested in = bringing a demo to IETF90 Bits-N-Bytes. >>=20 >> However, we are a (poor) non-profit, open source community, and we = would like to know if the 10k$ participation fee also applies to our = type of organization. >>=20 >> If so, I guess we'll have to decline, because we have no funds for = that. >>=20 >> Else we could bring to IETF90 Bits-N-Bytes a home automation demo = featuring a wide range of heterogeneous IoT hardware (from 16-bit = hardware such as the EZ-Chronos watch, to 32bit hardware such as Arduino = or UDOO).=20 >>=20 >> The demo consists in live interaction between: >>=20 >> - the IoT devices on one hand, via multi-hop wireless networking = based on a standard IPv6 protocols stack (6LoWPAN, IPv6, RPL, UDP, CoAP = etc.) on top of the RIOT operating system >>=20 >> - humans on the other hand, who can manipulate various objects = featuring sensors, which then automatically modify the state of the = network and some actuators (e.g. lighting parameters). >>=20 >> Live visualisation of multi-hop wireless network interactions is also = provided to track interaction at the network level. >>=20 >> Let us know, >>=20 >> Best,=20 >>=20 >> Emmanuel >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Bnbsg mailing list >> Bnbsg@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bnbsg >=20 > ---------- > Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF > 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 > Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001 > Email: amorris@amsl.com >=20 > Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) > Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning > www.amsl.com >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Bnbsg mailing list > Bnbsg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bnbsg ---------- Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001 Email: amorris@amsl.com Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning www.amsl.com --Apple-Mail=_A4BDF306-2406-4D46-98F2-A23464FC721B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Hi = Everyone,

I had one idea of a company that might = sponsor the RIOT developer community=92s participation (Dyn, as they = have previously interested they are open to such an idea). However it=92s = too late in the game for them to push this through, so I=92m now looking = for other ideas. This sounds like a great demo, but we need a sponsor. = Thoughts?

Alexa

Begin = forwarded message:

From: Alexa Morris <amorris@amsl.com>
=
Subject: Re: [Bnbsg] 7.21 (5) Demo at IETF = 90 Bits-N-Bytes
Date: = May 27, 2014 at = 12:39:58 PM PDT
To: = Emmanuel Baccelli = <Emmanuel.Baccelli@inria.fr&= gt;

Emmanuel,

Thanks for your = interest in participation! I will consult with other members of the BnB = Steering Committee and get back to you = soon.

Regards,
Alexa

On May 26, 2014, at 1:00 PM, Emmanuel Baccelli <Emmanuel.Baccelli@inria.fr&= gt; wrote:

Hi = Alexa,


The RIOT developer community = (www.riot-os.org), is interested = in bringing a demo to IETF90 Bits-N-Bytes.

However, we are a (poor) non-profit, open source community, and we would = like to know if the 10k$ participation fee also applies to our type of = organization.

If so, I guess we'll have to = decline, because we have no funds for that.

Else we could bring to IETF90 Bits-N-Bytes a home = automation demo featuring a wide range of heterogeneous IoT hardware = (from 16-bit hardware such as the EZ-Chronos watch, to 32bit hardware = such as Arduino or UDOO). 

The demo consists in live interaction = between:

- the IoT devices on one hand, via = multi-hop wireless networking based on a standard IPv6 protocols stack = (6LoWPAN, IPv6, RPL, UDP, CoAP etc.) on top of the RIOT operating = system

- humans on the other hand, who can manipulate = various objects featuring sensors, which then automatically modify the = state of the network and some actuators (e.g. lighting = parameters).

Live visualisation of multi-hop wireless network interactions is = also provided to track interaction at the network = level.

Let us = know,

Best, 

Emmanuel


_______________________________________________
Bnbsg mailing = list
Bnbsg@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/= mailman/listinfo/bnbsg

----------
Alexa Morris / Executive = Director / IETF
48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA =  94538
Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: = +1.510.492.4001
Email: amorris@amsl.com

Managed by = Association Management Solutions (AMS)
Forum Management, Meeting and = Event Planning
www.amsl.com <http://www.amsl.com/>

_______________________________________________
Bnbsg = mailing list
Bnbsg@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/= mailman/listinfo/bnbsg

----------
Alexa Morris / = Executive Director / IETF
48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA =  94538
Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: = +1.510.492.4001
Email: amorris@amsl.com

Managed by = Association Management Solutions (AMS)
Forum Management, Meeting and = Event Planning
www.amsl.com <http://www.amsl.com/>

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