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Subject: Re: [Bridge-mib] MSTP (IEEE 802.1s) MIB (or draft) ?
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Les,
I remember, there was some discussion
regarding MSTP MIB design. What
about an activity in this direction now?
What is the status?
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Subject: RE: [Bridge-mib] MSTP (IEEE 802.1s) MIB (or draft) ?
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Subject: FW: [Bridge-mib] MSTP (IEEE 802.1s) MIB (or draft) ?
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=20
From: Harrington, David=20
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 9:55 AM
To: Elisabeth Gloria; Bridge-mib@ietf.org; Les_Bell@3com.com
Cc: stds-802-1@ieee.org
Subject: RE: [Bridge-mib] MSTP (IEEE 802.1s) MIB (or draft) ?

Hi,
=20
Due to work pressures, Les is unable to continue serving as chair, and I
will be helping out.
=20
The bridgemib WG is not taking on any new work. The bridgemib WG needs
to complete the existing work items. We are seeking editors to finalize
the documents. Please contact me if you are available to do this work.=20
=20
Bert Wijnen, Dan Romascanu, and I have met with IEEE 802.1 officials. In
the future, IEEE 802.1 will develop any new mibs themselves, and some
members of the IETF MIB Doctors will provide guidance and review, at
least initially. We may need editors for this possible IEEE work. You
can contact me and I will pass on your interest to the appropriate IEEE
persons.
=20
Once the existing documents are completed, and IEEE is taking on any new
work, then the bridgemib WG will probably close down.
=20
dbh
David Harrington
co-chair, SNMPv3 WG, concluded

	-----Original Message-----=20
	From: Elisabeth Gloria [mailto:green_elisabeth@yahoo.com.au]=20
	Sent: Mon 3/15/2004 4:46 AM=20
	To: Bridge-mib@ietf.org; Les_Bell@3com.com=20
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	Subject: Re: [Bridge-mib] MSTP (IEEE 802.1s) MIB (or draft) ?
=09
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	Les,
	I remember, there was some discussion
	regarding MSTP MIB design. What
	about an activity in this direction now?
	What is the status?
	With respect, Beth
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Hi,
=20
We hope to have new revisions (or existing expired revisions re-)
published by the end of the month and get reviews done for these
documents, then start the road to WG last call asap.
=20
dbh
David Harrington          =20
dbh@enterasys.com
co-chair, IETF SNMPv3 WG, concluded


  _____ =20

From: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) [mailto:bwijnen@lucent.com]=20
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 11:42 AM
To: David Levi; 'Wijnen, Bert (Bert)'
Cc: Harrington, David
Subject: RE: BRIDGE-MIB SMIv2



	DavidH is just trying to get the final edits done by the
authors.
	That is if I have the correct doc in my mind.
	Anyway, DavidH is trying to finalize the work of bridge mib,
	after which we can close it and further bridgemib work should
	probably happen in IEEE 802.1 where the real technology
	experts live. If you want to help to make the last edits,
	then I am sure DavidH will be pelased (and so will I)
	=20

	Thanks,
	Bert=20

		-----Original Message-----
		From: David Levi [mailto:dlevi@nortelnetworks.com]
		Sent: dinsdag 16 maart 2004 16:39
		To: 'Wijnen, Bert (Bert)'
		Subject: BRIDGE-MIB SMIv2
	=09
	=09

		Hi Bert,=20

		Do you if anything is happening with the latest smiv2
version of the=20
		BRIDGE-MIB?  The latest I-D seems to have expired.  Is
it ever going=20
		to become an RFC?  Thanks!=20

		-Dave=20

=09
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Hi,
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We hope to have new revisions (or existing expired=20
revisions re-) published=A0by the end of the=A0month and get reviews done=
=20
for these documents, then start the road=A0to WG last call=20
asap.
=A0
dbh

David=20
Harrington=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0dbh@enterasys.comco-chair,=20
IETF SNMPv3 WG, concluded

From: Wijnen, Bert (Bert)=20
[mailto:bwijnen@lucent.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 11:42=20
AMTo: David Levi; 'Wijnen, Bert (Bert)'Cc: Harrington,=20
DavidSubject: RE: BRIDGE-MIB SMIv2

=20=20
  DavidH is just trying to get the final edits done by the=20
  authors.
  That=20
  is if I have the correct doc in my mind.
  Anyway, DavidH is trying to finalize the work of bridge=20
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  after which we can close it and further bridgemib work=20
  should
  probably happen in IEEE 802.1 where the real=20
  technology
  experts live. If you want to help to make the last=20
  edits,
  then=20
  I am sure DavidH will be pelased (and so will I)
  =A0
  Thanks,Bert=20
=20=20
    -----Original Message-----From: David Levi=20
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    -Dave=20
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Subject: Re: [802.1] Re: [Bridge-mib] MSTP (IEEE 802.1s) MIB (or draft) ?
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Why does .1x (and .1aa) have MIB and .1w & .1s 
don't? It seems, that a MIB
is not less important here.

Is WG going to insert a MIB into new .1D?

Regards, Ali

--- Thomas Jeffry <thomas_finne@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> Beth,
> Would you like to check the draft that Alex sent
> me? I know, that he was in correspondence with
> Les and tried to took into account all
> notes of Bridge-mib WG and last edition of .1s.
> I use this MIB (as our private one), it seems to
> be good enough.
> The only imperfection - DESCRIPTIONs
> and REFERENCEs :(
> 
> Les, could you (or anyone from th WG) check it too?
> May it be considered as an initial draft?
> 
> Regards, Thom
> 
>  --- Elisabeth Gloria wrote: 
> > Les,
> > I remember, there was some discussion
> > regarding MSTP MIB design. What
> > about an activity in this direction now?
> > What is the status?
> > With respect, Beth
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Hi,

There has been inconsistency about whether the mib modules for new 802.1
functionality would be developed by 802.1 or by IETF's Bridgemib WG. We
are working to improve the consistency of that decision.=20

The IETF Bridgemib WG has some existing work near to completion, so they
will complete it, and then the WG will probably close. All new mib
editing work for 802.1 functionality will be done in IEEE 802.1. Some of
the IETF MIB Doctors are providing review services, at least during the
transition.

A number of companies have written 802.1s mib modules, and once 802.1
has an editor to do the legwork, and the work is approved within a PAR,
that mib module work can be brought into an 802.1 effort. The 802.1 WG
needs to assess what is still missing that should be addressed.

Volunteers to edit are encouraged to come forward.

Dbh
David Harrington
Acting co-chair, Bridgemib WG
Acting MIB Doctor, IEEE 802.1

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> Why does .1x (and .1aa) have MIB and .1w & .1s=20
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> > I use this MIB (as our private one), it seems to
> > be good enough.
> > The only imperfection - DESCRIPTIONs
> > and REFERENCEs :(
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>>>>> Wijnen, Bert (Bert) writes:

Bert> So we're adding anotehr TC where zero value means NONE.  SO then
Bert> it has become self-explanatory, don't you agree?

Yes, but it certainly depends on what the DESCRIPTION clause actually
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Hi,

I am new to this group, so plse forgive me if my questions have been 
asked  before...

I have 2 questions on how to handle the topologyChange TRAP-TYPE in RSTP.
The description states that:

            "A topologyChange trap is sent by a bridge when
            any of its configured ports transitions from the
            Learning state to the Forwarding state, or from
            the Forwarding state to the Blocking state.

1) During  the RSTP syncing phase there are temporary transitions
   to and from the forwarding state (the moving cut). 

   With the above definition every single of those transitions will
   cause a trap although they do not imply any topology change.

   Is this realy the intented behavior in RSTP for this trap?  

2) I assume that the state 'Blocking' must be read in RSTP 
   (ref table 17.1 in IEE802.1w-2001) as
   '(port-state == Discarding) + (port-role == Alternate or Backup)'

  This means that  if the MAC  goes operationally down causing the
  link to leave the forwarding state this will not be reported via
  a TRAP. It is unclear for me why this is so, because to me it
  appears that this a real topology changing event.


Thanks,
Hans.
the transition from Forwarding  to


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Hi,

The bridgemib work has stalled, and we're working to un-stall it.

We have been in discussions with IEEE 802.1, and they are willing to
write their own mibs because this will help them produce mibs
contemporaneously with the managed functionality. I will be providing
MIB Doctor reviews for them during the transition, and possibly after
the transition. IEEE 802.1 plans to publish mibs as part of their
standard in their normal PDF format, and also make the mibs available in
text format for import into mib compilers and applications.

I have been working with Bert, and our current expectation is that the
Bridgemib WG will finalize the existing bridgemib WG documents, and then
presumably close down. I am working to get the four remaining documents
finalized and into WG last call.

Bert raised a good point; we should ask what the implementers and
deployers of the mibs would like as a future direction. So let me
stimulate some discussion, so the powers-that-be in IETF and IEEE have
some guidance:

1) Do you agree with having the IEEE write their own mibs?
2) Will you participate in the IEEE 802.1 process for developing the mib
modules?
3) Do you agree the bridgemib WG should be closed down, since it will
have completed its charter?

For future mibs produced by IEEE:
4) Should they also be published as RFCs?=20
If they are published as RFCs, this would probably be as Informational
only. The IEEE standard would be the official version, and to the degree
we could achieve it, the IETF might publish a mirror copy.=20
5) Synchronization between IEEE/IETF review/publishing cycles has proven
difficult, so we are considering publishing Informational RFCs with only
a pointer to the IEEE standard. Would that suffice?

For existing 802.1-related MIBs (1493, 1525, 2674, et al):
6) Should these be moved to the IEEE?
7) If not, why not? How should the IETF mib modules be maintained as the
IEEE 802.1 technologies change?
8) If yes, what should we do with the existing standards? Would making
them Historic and replacing them with Informational RFCs that point to
the IEEE standards documents suffice?

David Harrington           =20
dbh@enterasys.com
Director, Network Management Architecture
Office of the CTO, Enterasys Networks


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