Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org (laweleka.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.98]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 873DF80A69 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:43:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6742914220E for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:43:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org X-Spam-Score: -2.578 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.578 tagged_above=-50 required=4 tests=[AWL=0.021, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uhrEy302ci6k for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:43:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from karpinski.uscs.susx.ac.uk (karpinski.uscs.susx.ac.uk [139.184.14.85]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED69142204 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:43:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from bb-87-81-165-9.ukonline.co.uk ([87.81.165.9]:51493 helo=[192.168.1.10] ident=grahamperrin) by karpinski.uscs.susx.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.64) (envelope-from ) id JSB6VO-00055G-CE for ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 07:45:24 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <3B32483B-7635-4A6D-A9F1-FBE6FAFAABF7@bton.ac.uk> References: <3433CF09-86B3-4FD4-9FD7-8FAF0D8D5C0A@bton.ac.uk> <80A7C9F4-C338-4AAD-942C-651A7240DB9E@bton.ac.uk> <4543FCCF930820716D67DD65@caldav.corp.apple.com> <409C5B06-C165-4F9D-B25C-D8965FCDF8A7@bton.ac.uk> <474C70E2.1060201@osafoundation.org> <3B32483B-7635-4A6D-A9F1-FBE6FAFAABF7@bton.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Graham Perrin Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 07:43:44 +0000 To: CalDAV DevList X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Sussex: true X-Sussex-transport: remote_smtp Subject: [Ietf-caldav] Plone + CalDAV: first collaborative draft of the Plone Improvement Proposal (PLIP) is now online X-BeenThere: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Calendar Access protocol based on WebDAV List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 07:43:55 -0000 Discussion has begun in two or more of the forums to which I have posted. For the benefit of all concerned I wish to avoid cross- posting, so if you have any interest in this subject, please visit http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dcxc3g7d_5c93vqk Thanks and regards Graham Perrin Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org (laweleka.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.98]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB86A809D5 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:28:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902301421FC for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:28:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org X-Spam-Score: -2.575 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.575 tagged_above=-50 required=4 tests=[AWL=0.024, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iBgOpUtiUz0m for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:27:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from sivits.uscs.susx.ac.uk (sivits.uscs.susx.ac.uk [139.184.14.88]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E57621421FD for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:27:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from bb-87-81-165-9.ukonline.co.uk ([87.81.165.9]:49806 helo=[192.168.1.10] ident=grahamperrin) by sivits.uscs.susx.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.64) (envelope-from ) id JS6OZ2-0005PY-LS for ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:28:14 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <474C70E2.1060201@osafoundation.org> References: <3433CF09-86B3-4FD4-9FD7-8FAF0D8D5C0A@bton.ac.uk> <80A7C9F4-C338-4AAD-942C-651A7240DB9E@bton.ac.uk> <4543FCCF930820716D67DD65@caldav.corp.apple.com> <409C5B06-C165-4F9D-B25C-D8965FCDF8A7@bton.ac.uk> <474C70E2.1060201@osafoundation.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <3B32483B-7635-4A6D-A9F1-FBE6FAFAABF7@bton.ac.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Graham Perrin Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:27:52 +0000 To: CalDAV DevList X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Sussex: true X-Sussex-transport: remote_smtp Subject: [Ietf-caldav] Plone + CalDAV: periodic versus live/cached X-BeenThere: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Calendar Access protocol based on WebDAV List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:28:02 -0000 On 27 Nov 2007, at 19:32, Jeffrey Harris wrote: >> 2) ... I'd like Plone to simply present, for an ATEvent object, >> event-related information that is drawn from a CalDAV server. > > Do you want to draw events live from a CalDAV server, blocking page > rendering while you wait for a response from the CalDAV server? Or > were you thinking you'd schedule a periodic task to update Plone? A good question. Periodic tasks may be a fine approach to (2) above or (3) below ... >> 3) Even better: beyond simple presentation, I'd like Plone to have >> the ability to update its ATEevent object, based upon what's fed >> by the CalDAV server. >> >> 4) Best: I'd like changes fed by a human to an ATEvent object to >> be relayed appropriately to a CalDAV server, but that's probably >> over-ambitious at this time. ... but expanding my thoughts to the future possibility of (4), my _instinct_ is that periodic tasks may introduce complications in unexpected ways. Better, I suspect, to allow direct communication between Plone and the CalDAV server. > blocking page rendering while you wait for a response from the > CalDAV server? I guess, Plone can be configured to fall back to cached data when a CalDAV server does not provide a timely response. So ... thoughts forming, _maybe_: * Plone should have the option of storing within the ZODB (Zope Object Database) a CalDAV URL-oriented object and * that object should include a cached copy of data from the CalDAV server and * an ATEvent object may be related to that CalDAV URL-oriented object. and * communication between Plone and CalDAV server to be triggered by events, Python/Zope/Plone/workflow experts (not me) will surely have a grasp on that side of things. Regards Graham Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org (laweleka.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.98]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B3E808CF for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:27:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95BB4142203 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:27:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org X-Spam-Score: -2.57 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.57 tagged_above=-50 required=4 tests=[AWL=0.029, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 62pUMmw0Z8j9 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:27:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from sivits.uscs.susx.ac.uk (sivits.uscs.susx.ac.uk [139.184.14.88]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 145361421FC for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:27:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from bb-87-81-165-9.ukonline.co.uk ([87.81.165.9]:49806 helo=[192.168.1.10] ident=grahamperrin) by sivits.uscs.susx.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.64) (envelope-from ) id JS6OYH-0005PY-JE for ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:27:53 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org From: Graham Perrin Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:27:29 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Sussex: true X-Sussex-transport: remote_smtp Subject: [Ietf-caldav] Chandler Hub (Cosmo), Atom, Plone, Mulberry X-BeenThere: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Calendar Access protocol based on WebDAV List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:27:41 -0000 On 27 Nov 2007, at 19:32, Jeffrey Harris wrote: > Chandler Hub, http://hub.chandlerproject.org/ is available for > public use. From my first experiments with Chandler Hub I see that Atom feeds are available -- smart. Atom etc. supported by the standard portlets engine in Plone 3 and the new FeedMixer , all looking good. > If it doesn't work with Mulberry, I'd love to know that! Re Chandler Hub and Mulberry I have replied off-list to Jeffrey. Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org (laweleka.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.98]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F293080B23 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:32:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.103.47] (adsl-75-5-124-98.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net [75.5.124.98]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42FCB1421FD for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:32:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <474C70E2.1060201@osafoundation.org> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:32:50 -0800 From: Jeffrey Harris User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: CalDAV DevList Subject: Re: [Ietf-caldav] More on the Plone + CalDAV question References: <3433CF09-86B3-4FD4-9FD7-8FAF0D8D5C0A@bton.ac.uk> <80A7C9F4-C338-4AAD-942C-651A7240DB9E@bton.ac.uk> <4543FCCF930820716D67DD65@caldav.corp.apple.com> <409C5B06-C165-4F9D-B25C-D8965FCDF8A7@bton.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <409C5B06-C165-4F9D-B25C-D8965FCDF8A7@bton.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Calendar Access protocol based on WebDAV List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:32:59 -0000 Hi Graham, > 2) As an improvement -- and this is where CalDAV expertise will be > *most* appreciated: I'd like Plone to simply present, for an ATEvent > object, event-related information that is drawn from a CalDAV server. Do you want to draw events live from a CalDAV server, blocking page rendering while you wait for a response from the CalDAV server? Or were you thinking you'd schedule a periodic task to update Plone? > Incidentally: are there publicly or privately available any CalDAV > servers with which I might register myself, familiarise myself? Chandler Hub, http://hub.chandlerproject.org/ is available for public use. If it doesn't work with Mulberry, I'd love to know that! Sincerely, Jeffrey Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org (laweleka.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.98]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 924AA7FE2D for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:44:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 669E61421FD for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:44:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-50 required=4 tests=[AWL=0.698, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M7lgfbru+gHz for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:44:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp7.server.rpi.edu (smtp7.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81240142203 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:44:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.113.124.210] (blue-eyes-white-dragon-02.dynamic2.rpi.edu [128.113.124.210]) by smtp7.server.rpi.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lARIi5H1015271; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:44:06 -0500 Message-ID: <474C65A1.4020901@rpi.edu> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:44:49 -0500 From: Mike Douglass User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Graham Perrin Subject: Re: [Ietf-caldav] More on the Plone + CalDAV question References: <3433CF09-86B3-4FD4-9FD7-8FAF0D8D5C0A@bton.ac.uk> <80A7C9F4-C338-4AAD-942C-651A7240DB9E@bton.ac.uk> <4543FCCF930820716D67DD65@caldav.corp.apple.com> <409C5B06-C165-4F9D-B25C-D8965FCDF8A7@bton.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <409C5B06-C165-4F9D-B25C-D8965FCDF8A7@bton.ac.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RPI-SA-Score: undef - spam scanning disabled X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-Canit-Stats-ID: Bayes signature not available X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 128.113.2.227 Cc: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org X-BeenThere: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Calendar Access protocol based on WebDAV List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:44:34 -0000 I can send you the url an id and a password to a running test version of bedework. I'm actually in the middle of upgrading it so I'll send you something when it's ready Graham Perrin wrote: > Hi Cyrus, thanks for your attention. > > On 27 Nov 2007, at 15:33, Cyrus Daboo wrote: > >> Can you explain the architecture in a little more detail? I get the >> impression that what you are doing is having Plone sit on top of a >> CalDAV server that provides the back-end event store, and Plone is >> provided its own front-end for that. Is that a reasonable description >> of what you are doing? > > I think you have the gist :-) > > I guess that some list members will be familiar with Zope. > > describes Plone content management system in a Zope context. > > ATEvent objects are typically presented by Plone in this way: > > > > As I expect our Centre to use Apple iCal Server (we're not quite there > yet), > so I expect that most events will be managed primarily in that context. > > Inevitably, our users will _also_ wish for events to presented by Plone. > > > 1) At least: I wish to suppress (in Plone) the presentation of .vcs > and .ics download options -- but that's off-topic from IETF-CalDAV > (probably easily achievable when I find more time to dig into Plone). > > > 2) As an improvement -- and this is where CalDAV expertise will be > *most* appreciated: I'd like Plone to simply present, for an ATEvent > object, event-related information that is drawn from a CalDAV server. > > > 3) Even better: beyond simple presentation, I'd like Plone to have the > ability to update its ATEevent object, based upon what's fed by the > CalDAV server. > > > 4) Best: I'd like changes fed by a human to an ATEvent object to be > relayed appropriately to a CalDAV server, but that's probably > over-ambitious at this time. > > > ---- > > Incidentally: are there publicly or privately available any CalDAV > servers with which I might register myself, familiarise myself? > > (Whilst I have the code for Darwin Calendar Server, I lack the time to > configure etc.. Mac OS X Server 10.5 is on my shopping list so I'll > take advantage of that when it arrives.) > > Initially using Mulberry 4.0.8 as a client. > > Best regards > > Graham Perrin > CENTRIM - the Centre for Research in Innovation Management > University of Brighton > +44-1273-877922 > _______________________________________________ > Ietf-caldav mailing list -- Ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org > See http://ietf.webdav.org/caldav/ for more CalDAV resources > http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-caldav > -- Mike Douglass douglm@rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer Communication & Collaboration Technologies 518 276 6780(voice) 2809 (fax) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 110 8th Street, Troy, NY 12180 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org (laweleka.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.98]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5466980B54 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:53:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 289BA1421FD for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:53:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org X-Spam-Score: -1.949 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.949 tagged_above=-50 required=4 tests=[AWL=0.650, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id N9BLbSTSIdcP for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:53:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from chip.uscs.susx.ac.uk (chip.uscs.susx.ac.uk [139.184.14.86]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CC461421FC for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:53:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from macbookpro03.centrim.freeman-centre.ac.uk ([139.184.224.243]:50499 ident=grahamperrin) by chip.uscs.susx.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.64) (envelope-from ) id JS6F0Z-000K8K-A5; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:53:23 +0000 In-Reply-To: <4543FCCF930820716D67DD65@caldav.corp.apple.com> References: <3433CF09-86B3-4FD4-9FD7-8FAF0D8D5C0A@bton.ac.uk> <80A7C9F4-C338-4AAD-942C-651A7240DB9E@bton.ac.uk> <4543FCCF930820716D67DD65@caldav.corp.apple.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <409C5B06-C165-4F9D-B25C-D8965FCDF8A7@bton.ac.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Graham Perrin Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:53:11 +0000 To: Cyrus Daboo X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Sussex: true X-Sussex-transport: remote_smtp Cc: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Subject: [Ietf-caldav] More on the Plone + CalDAV question X-BeenThere: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Calendar Access protocol based on WebDAV List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:53:20 -0000 Hi Cyrus, thanks for your attention. On 27 Nov 2007, at 15:33, Cyrus Daboo wrote: > Can you explain the architecture in a little more detail? I get the > impression that what you are doing is having Plone sit on top of a > CalDAV server that provides the back-end event store, and Plone is > provided its own front-end for that. Is that a reasonable > description of what you are doing? I think you have the gist :-) I guess that some list members will be familiar with Zope. describes Plone content management system in a Zope context. ATEvent objects are typically presented by Plone in this way: As I expect our Centre to use Apple iCal Server (we're not quite there yet), so I expect that most events will be managed primarily in that context. Inevitably, our users will _also_ wish for events to presented by Plone. 1) At least: I wish to suppress (in Plone) the presentation of .vcs and .ics download options -- but that's off-topic from IETF-CalDAV (probably easily achievable when I find more time to dig into Plone). 2) As an improvement -- and this is where CalDAV expertise will be *most* appreciated: I'd like Plone to simply present, for an ATEvent object, event-related information that is drawn from a CalDAV server. 3) Even better: beyond simple presentation, I'd like Plone to have the ability to update its ATEevent object, based upon what's fed by the CalDAV server. 4) Best: I'd like changes fed by a human to an ATEvent object to be relayed appropriately to a CalDAV server, but that's probably over- ambitious at this time. ---- Incidentally: are there publicly or privately available any CalDAV servers with which I might register myself, familiarise myself? (Whilst I have the code for Darwin Calendar Server, I lack the time to configure etc.. Mac OS X Server 10.5 is on my shopping list so I'll take advantage of that when it arrives.) Initially using Mulberry 4.0.8 as a client. Best regards Graham Perrin CENTRIM - the Centre for Research in Innovation Management University of Brighton +44-1273-877922 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org (laweleka.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.98]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8634809C0 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:33:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C6931421FC for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:33:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-50 required=4 tests=[AWL=0.135, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yVKYJNJk7oCY for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:33:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mulberrymail.com (piper.mulberrymail.com [151.201.22.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4EC1421FB for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:33:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from caldav.corp.apple.com ([17.101.32.44]) (authenticated bits=0) by mulberrymail.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lARFX59s020285 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:33:07 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:33:00 -0500 From: Cyrus Daboo To: Graham Perrin , ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Subject: Re: [Ietf-caldav] Fwd: Plone Improvement Proposal (PLIP) re event handling and CalDAV: invitation Message-ID: <4543FCCF930820716D67DD65@caldav.corp.apple.com> In-Reply-To: <80A7C9F4-C338-4AAD-942C-651A7240DB9E@bton.ac.uk> References: <3433CF09-86B3-4FD4-9FD7-8FAF0D8D5C0A@bton.ac.uk> <80A7C9F4-C338-4AAD-942C-651A7240DB9E@bton.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.1.0a1 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Calendar Access protocol based on WebDAV List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:33:51 -0000 Hi Graham, --On November 27, 2007 10:36:51 AM +0000 Graham Perrin wrote: >> For further information please visit >> > caldav.html> > > Advice from anyone with CalDAV experience will be greatly appreciated. > > A relevant improvement to Zope/Plone may be very simple. > > My early thoughts appeared at > > (marked invalid there, only because their Trac was not an agreeable forum > for enhancements). Can you explain the architecture in a little more detail? I get the impression that what you are doing is having Plone sit on top of a CalDAV server that provides the back-end event store, and Plone is provided its own front-end for that. Is that a reasonable description of what you are doing? -- Cyrus Daboo Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org (laweleka.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.98]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E39EB80AFE for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:36:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50B5142203 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:37:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org X-Spam-Score: -1.733 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.733 tagged_above=-50 required=4 tests=[AWL=0.866, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EL+zDh8LK6as for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:36:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from chip.uscs.susx.ac.uk (chip.uscs.susx.ac.uk [139.184.14.86]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172E21421F2 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:36:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from macbookpro03.centrim.freeman-centre.ac.uk ([139.184.224.243]:50365 ident=grahamperrin) by chip.uscs.susx.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.64) (envelope-from ) id JS5UTP-000082-36 for ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:37:01 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) References: <3433CF09-86B3-4FD4-9FD7-8FAF0D8D5C0A@bton.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <80A7C9F4-C338-4AAD-942C-651A7240DB9E@bton.ac.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Graham Perrin Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:36:51 +0000 To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Sussex: true X-Sussex-transport: remote_smtp Subject: [Ietf-caldav] Fwd: Plone Improvement Proposal (PLIP) re event handling and CalDAV: invitation X-BeenThere: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Calendar Access protocol based on WebDAV List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:37:00 -0000 Begin forwarded message: > Resent-From: Graham Perrin > From: Graham Perrin > Date: 24 November 2007 20:30:30 GMT > Resent-To: calendarserver-dev@lists.macosforge.org > To: caladmin-l@lists.calconnect.org, calendarserver- > users@lists.macosforge.org, plone-developers@lists.sourceforge.net, > regebro@nuxeo.com > Subject: Plone Improvement Proposal (PLIP) re event handling and > CalDAV: invitation > > With apologies for cross-posting: > > I have been invited to draft a Plone Improvement Proposal regarding: > > * Plone CMS handling of event objects > > * CalDAV. > > For further information please visit > caldav.html> Advice from anyone with CalDAV experience will be greatly appreciated. A relevant improvement to Zope/Plone may be very simple. My early thoughts appeared at (marked invalid there, only because their Trac was not an agreeable forum for enhancements). TIA Graham Perrin (I'll have a greater idea of what's possible after I start running Apple iCal Server...) 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Title : CalDAV Scheduling Extensions to WebDAV Author(s) : C. Daboo, et al. Filename : draft-desruisseaux-caldav-sched-04.txt Pages : 51 Date : 2007-11-18 This document defines extensions to the Web Distributed Authoring and Versioning (WebDAV) protocol to specify a standard way of exchanging and processing scheduling messages based on the iCalendar Transport- Independent Interoperability Protocol (iTIP). This document defines the "calendar-schedule" feature of CalDAV. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-desruisseaux-caldav-sched-04.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce to change your subscription settings. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. 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Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4739C55E.4030501@scalix.com> References: <4739C55E.4030501@scalix.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.1.0a1 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Calendar Access protocol based on WebDAV List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:59:50 -0000 Hi Gren, --On November 13, 2007 3:40:14 PM +0000 Gren Elliot wrote: > I've recently been trying to find documentation on the caldav-sched > extensions to CalDAV. > The latest one of these I found claims it recently expired - see : > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-desruisseaux-caldav-sched-04 > > Could someone update me on the status of this proposed standard please? Sorry about that. We are working on getting an update out before the draft deadline next week. -- Cyrus Daboo Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org (laweleka.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.98]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185FE80A38 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:41:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F60E1421F7 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:40:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-50 required=4 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vbGj96xC-70Y for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:40:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.uk.scalix.com (mail.uk.scalix.com [85.118.4.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B47142206 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:40:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.uk.scalix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.uk.scalix.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lADFeJmp028164 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:40:20 GMT Received: from crowley.uk.scalix.com (crowley.uk.scalix.com [10.11.108.213]) by mail.uk.scalix.com (Scalix SMTP Relay 11.2.0.11121) via ESMTP; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:40:19 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:40:14 +0000 From: Gren Elliot To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Message-ID: <4739C55E.4030501@scalix.com> x-scalix-Hops: 1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (X11/20070727) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Subject: [Ietf-caldav] caldav-sched - expired draft? X-BeenThere: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Calendar Access protocol based on WebDAV List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:41:26 -0000 Hi, I've recently been trying to find documentation on the caldav-sched extensions to CalDAV. The latest one of these I found claims it recently expired - see : http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-desruisseaux-caldav-sched-04 Could someone update me on the status of this proposed standard please? Thanks, Gren.