Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0362477D775 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:08:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org X-Spam-Score: -5.354 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.354 tagged_above=-50 required=4 tests=[AWL=1.245, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from leka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (leka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oARwGw38IQJy for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:08:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com (gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com [192.18.6.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by leka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01581794070 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:07:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-emea-09.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-2-fe3.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.12]) by gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n15G7O2X024549 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 16:07:25 GMT MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-09.sun.com by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7.0-3.01 64bit (built Dec 23 2008)) id <0KEL00B00OFLHP00@fe-emea-09.sun.com> for ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:07:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [129.150.118.26] ([unknown] [129.150.118.26]) by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7.0-3.01 64bit (built Dec 23 2008)) with ESMTPSA id <0KEL0028XORSA670@fe-emea-09.sun.com> for ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:07:05 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:07:04 +0100 From: Arnaud Quillaud Sender: Arnaud.Quillaud@Sun.COM To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Message-id: <498B0EA8.9070108@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) Subject: [ietf-caldav] some more typos in caldav access examples X-BeenThere: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Calendar Access protocol based on WebDAV List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:08:57 -0000 Still looking at: http://caldav.calconnect.org/caldavfiles/files/draft-desruisseaux-rfc4791bis.changes.html#examples The event abcd2 is missing the following exception (which is returned in the calendar-query report). BEGIN:VEVENT DTSTAMP:20060206T001121Z DTSTART;TZID=US/Eastern:20060106T140000 DURATION:PT1H RECURRENCE-ID;TZID=US/Eastern:20060106T120000 SUMMARY:Event #2 bis bis UID:00959BC664CA650E933C892C@example.com END:VEVENT The event abcd3 is missing X-ABC-GUID:E1CX5Dr-0007ym-Hz@example.com which is returned in the calendar query reports. Looking at http://caldav.calconnect.org/caldavfiles/files/draft-desruisseaux-rfc4791bis.changes.html#rfc.section.7.8.1 For the second event, the PRODID is returned when it should not. Looking at http://caldav.calconnect.org/caldavfiles/files/draft-desruisseaux-rfc4791bis.changes.html#rfc.section.7.8.3 the getetag property is returned when it was not asked for in the request. Arnaud Q Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 717763E1EC2 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:27:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org X-Spam-Score: -4.269 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.269 tagged_above=-50 required=4 tests=[AWL=0.471, BAYES_20=-0.74, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from leka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (leka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ck7U5aPP9QhA for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:27:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com (gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com [192.18.6.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by leka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B413C77D71B for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:25:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-emea-09.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-2-fe2.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.11]) by gmp-eb-inf-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n15FPs5P018298 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 15:25:54 GMT MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-09.sun.com by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7.0-3.01 64bit (built Dec 23 2008)) id <0KEL00M00L0SCM00@fe-emea-09.sun.com> for ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 15:25:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [129.150.118.26] ([unknown] [129.150.118.26]) by fe-emea-09.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7.0-3.01 64bit (built Dec 23 2008)) with ESMTPSA id <0KEL009NDMV1RPG0@fe-emea-09.sun.com> for ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 15:25:49 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:25:48 +0100 From: Arnaud Quillaud Sender: Arnaud.Quillaud@Sun.COM To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Message-id: <498B04FC.6080807@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) Subject: [ietf-caldav] invalid TODO in CalDAV examples X-BeenThere: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Calendar Access protocol based on WebDAV List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 15:27:36 -0000 Hello, Looking at http://caldav.calconnect.org/caldavfiles/files/draft-desruisseaux-rfc4791bis.changes.html#examples There are 2 todos (abcd4.ics and abcd5.ics) with an alarm containing: TRIGGER;RELATED=START:-PT10M but those 2 todos only have a DUE date, making them invalid icalendar components. The TRIGGER should be: TRIGGER;RELATED=END:-PT10M This affects the output of the example at: http://caldav.calconnect.org/caldavfiles/files/draft-desruisseaux-rfc4791bis.changes.html#rfc.section.7.8.9 It also affects http://caldav.calconnect.org/caldavfiles/files/draft-desruisseaux-rfc4791bis.changes.html#rfc.section.7.8.5 . In that case the DUE property is expressed as a DATETIME with tz (although not timezone component is provided) instead of DATE. Arnaud Q Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F0377D720 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:13:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org X-Spam-Score: -1.11 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.11 tagged_above=-50 required=4 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11] Received: from leka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (leka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h7HDH0YRt8ZX for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:13:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.mdlink.net (mail.mdlink.net [213.211.192.40]) by leka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 750D077D71E for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:09:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mdlink.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB0E11E0134 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 15:09:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from helge.in.skyrix.com (xl0-wan.skyrix.com [213.211.192.114]) by mail.mdlink.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 255AA11E1003 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 15:09:45 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: From: Helge Hess To: CalDAV DevList In-Reply-To: <498AEC98.4020300@sun.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 15:09:40 +0100 References: <498AEC98.4020300@sun.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Re: [ietf-caldav] X- props in organizer's copy X-BeenThere: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Calendar Access protocol based on WebDAV List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:13:27 -0000 On 05.02.2009, at 14:41, Arnaud Quillaud wrote: > Actually, the same could be said about regular properties: An > organizer > may want to add an attachment to his copy of a meeting but may not > want > to send it to the attendees. VALARM is another component which should not be transmitted? Instead of an attribute on each property, a single property listing the 'personal' properties might be more efficient? Eg: SCHEDULE-NO-PROPAGATE:X-MYCLIENT-EVENT-COLOR,X-MYCLIENT-EVENT-ID BTW: this issue not only applies to scheduling, but also to shared calendars. Eg if I save an event to a shared calendar, I might not want to save 'my' alarm. Instead the client might want to keep that locally. Greets, Helge -- http://zideone.com/ Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEDC677D73D for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:46:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org X-Spam-Score: -3.546 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.546 tagged_above=-50 required=4 tests=[AWL=0.639, BAYES_40=-0.185, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from leka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (leka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uBeUmmz-hOca for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:46:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com (gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com [192.18.6.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by leka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7635E7940E3 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:42:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from fe-emea-10.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-2-fe3.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.12]) by gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n15DfuT9010930 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:41:57 GMT MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-10.sun.com by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7.0-3.01 64bit (built Dec 23 2008)) id <0KEL00300G43FX00@fe-emea-10.sun.com> for ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:41:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [129.150.118.26] ([unknown] [129.150.118.26]) by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7.0-3.01 64bit (built Dec 23 2008)) with ESMTPSA id <0KEL006N0I1K6H20@fe-emea-10.sun.com> for ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org; Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:41:44 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:41:44 +0100 From: Arnaud Quillaud Sender: Arnaud.Quillaud@Sun.COM To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Message-id: <498AEC98.4020300@sun.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) Subject: [ietf-caldav] X- props in organizer's copy X-BeenThere: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Calendar Access protocol based on WebDAV List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:46:25 -0000 Hello, CalDAV clients often use X- props to persist proprietary information (e.g. "X-MYCLIENT-EVENT-COLOR:red", or "X-MYCLIENT-MEETING-CHAT-URL:xyz:abc"). Using the new scheduling model, it is now the server's responsibility to propagate or not propagate those X- props to attendees: propagating an event color property would not be appropriate while propagating a meeting chat url would be. In the meantime, it is impossible for a server to be aware of all X- props (existing and yet to come) and take the apppropriate action. Should we define a boolean parameter indicating whether the organizer's client wishes to propagate a particular property (or component) to the attendee ? The default would be true. Example: X-MYCLIENT-EVENT-COLOR;SCHEDULE-PROPAGATE=FALSE:red X-MYCLIENT-MEETING-CHAT-URL;SCHEDULE-PROPAGATE=TRUE:xyz:abc Actually, the same could be said about regular properties: An organizer may want to add an attachment to his copy of a meeting but may not want to send it to the attendees. Arnaud Q