From nobody Fri Jun 20 09:08:25 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: caldav@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: caldav@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 226D61B281D; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 09:08:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.551 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.551 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q1WQlJZtxrSc; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 09:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from daboo.name (daboo.name [173.13.55.49]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 84E4A1B2857; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 09:07:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by daboo.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 354206A26A3F; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 12:07:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at example.com Received: from daboo.name ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (daboo.name [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2zR6WK-pJzuL; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 12:07:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from caldav.corp.apple.com (unknown [17.45.162.46]) by daboo.name (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 00DB36A26A2D; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 12:07:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 12:07:38 -0400 From: Cyrus Daboo To: IETF-Calsify , IETF-CalDAV Message-ID: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.1.0b1 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="==========290457C43E0F7AC934B5==========" Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/caldav/jCOHXCrp9jg0YUnHrvAga-2ZZZE Cc: TC-Timezone , CalConnect Subject: [caldav] Proposed working group: Timezone Data Distribution Service (tzdist) (fwd) X-BeenThere: caldav@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 16:08:18 -0000 --==========290457C43E0F7AC934B5========== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; size=1099 Hi, This is likely of interest to all iCalendar/CalDAV etc folks. Discussion of the proposed working group charter should initially take place on the apps-discuss list. ------------ Forwarded Message ----------- Date: June 20, 2014 at 11:06:51 AM -0400 From: Barry Leiba To: Apps Discuss cc: Cyrus Daboo Subject: Proposed working group: Timezone Data Distribution Service (tzdist) Cyrus Daboo has proposed a new working group in the Applications Area, and I'm initiating charter discussion on it: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-tzdist/ We'll have the charter discussion here on apps-discuss. Assuming a working group comes out of this, we'll create a new mailing list for the actual work, once the charter is done. Comments on this charter are welcome. I expect to put it on the 10 July IESG telechat for initial approval, after which it will go out for IETF and external review. So, comments here by 4 July, please. Barry, Applications AD ---------- End Forwarded Message ---------- -- Cyrus Daboo --==========290457C43E0F7AC934B5========== Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Proposed working group: Timezone Data Distribution Service (tzdist)" Return-Path: Delivered-To: cyrusdaboo@daboo.name Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by daboo.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF956A256FA for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 11:07:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at example.com Authentication-Results: daboo.name (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from daboo.name ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (daboo.name [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9jJwFwDJB3pw for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 11:06:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-la0-f42.google.com (mail-la0-f42.google.com [209.85.215.42]) by daboo.name (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98D956A256EB for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 11:06:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-la0-f42.google.com with SMTP id pn19so2489720lab.15 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 08:06:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=XDzvFCuoU27s137FK8+dY8hCjN1EvE8aMFtWXOA2yqc=; b=CoeL8W3hV0oGkPSyR46Q/QgoasUXyepCExI0k1qEqW80azkvQWgQjI2FJERsqa+HK2 BDsNI/gTf7EOZtJ1V2f8+Yu36y4TWsqQdWoSFHQUa+IruGgnCB6PiUK1DMg1+yQoXTSj ON9yoqR0a0ZHJMHhoCmEwiVaVvFteqee2qa5ij+ur11qD6ant5psBHg5kHDUlPNeXu9w NyLFiW1r1h4A5GPDu2GPZuYa6E/n7qsuZAoID2yoDdHWaYNd8PgFU5+Hm4Xr6NadTMvf mODTIcQpqEhIaKWK2EshQOPMmEOBInQ2ojyXxcBisIi+OF1ND9n+9DcW6uuwW3W8ePab IG0g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.157.130 with SMTP id wm2mr2806803lbb.38.1403276811102; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 08:06:51 -0700 (PDT) Sender: barryleiba@gmail.com Received: by 10.152.104.80 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 08:06:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 11:06:51 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: mizEke5InA6EwPkrtJl6UWhFTBs Message-ID: Subject: Proposed working group: Timezone Data Distribution Service (tzdist) From: Barry Leiba To: Apps Discuss Cc: Cyrus Daboo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cyrus Daboo has proposed a new working group in the Applications Area, and I'm initiating charter discussion on it: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-tzdist/ We'll have the charter discussion here on apps-discuss. Assuming a working group comes out of this, we'll create a new mailing list for the actual work, once the charter is done. Comments on this charter are welcome. I expect to put it on the 10 July IESG telechat for initial approval, after which it will go out for IETF and external review. So, comments here by 4 July, please. Barry, Applications AD --==========290457C43E0F7AC934B5==========-- From nobody Fri Jun 20 13:27:13 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: caldav@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: caldav@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15D11B290C for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 13:27:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.251 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.251 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-0.5, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EXsEVW5EawXB for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 13:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe14:43:76:96:62:32]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81A91B2903 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 13:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omta23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.74]) by qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id GkNx1o0041c6gX853kT7ew; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 20:27:07 +0000 Received: from THARE ([156.75.186.150]) by omta23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id GkSp1o00d3F7N4C3jkSsvN; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 20:27:05 +0000 From: "Tim Hare" To: "'Cyrus Daboo'" , "'IETF-Calsify'" , "'IETF-CalDAV'" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 16:26:22 -0400 Message-ID: <009f01cf8cc5$efebd5d0$cfc38170$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac+ModzbQ3UCijKFS7+FFw8ekITlFAAIyLSg Content-Language: en-us DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1403296027; bh=zlgTEscJVYdMD7EzTwm1L2WCc4PR4rRbC8NMRuQS4Jk=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=YmGz+webL3cZFmniugGLBqLL0Wztkppvnszmz5E9WeTuz+ns+7cLKafwUYE11VlN5 0JJKj/5mEbmJr338OUD23SrVxciii39V1U/cSQCQfeTXCXtp4Yibxwf7GPcpMplJLx OKyd+U8tR7ChOXgfUt0Uc1SUNBAmYQ8RDLK+dMiGgLTLmFttnHWOgz5WOejefkS7MH 1QRyZzkeDACcxE4ZYvBcyOAV0sBfgQCyD8QpV617iYAuKN2pAXZDVCJUuQAdoc0e0+ PXUc27Sr0qbITooyOpPZRHYuBQWyYtMH3OVGiUKyUy8bBqraf2QcAdJ6zo6KpeA62G t4uMoDvjbegoQ== Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/caldav/_Ywmw-GKpxmltSVJ9J2fJulTAAw Cc: 'TC-Timezone' , 'CalConnect' Subject: Re: [caldav] Proposed working group: Timezone Data Distribution Service (tzdist) (fwd) X-BeenThere: caldav@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 20:27:10 -0000 I think this has long been needed. One thought re: scaling - could the existing NTP/SNTP hierarchy be used to also hold and distribute the timezone data? That way the time servers also could be the timezone servers; the data changes fairly infrequently but when it does it is with short notice, it would be nice to have it spread out through a tree structure fairly quickly. I don't think the update would cause significant load to the servers, and the hierarchical nature of NTP/SNTP would, it seems to me, make sure queries are handled as locally as possible. Tim Hare Interested Bystander, Non-Inc. -----Original Message----- From: caldav [mailto:caldav-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Cyrus Daboo Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 12:08 PM To: IETF-Calsify; IETF-CalDAV Cc: TC-Timezone; CalConnect Subject: [caldav] Proposed working group: Timezone Data Distribution Service (tzdist) (fwd) Hi, This is likely of interest to all iCalendar/CalDAV etc folks. Discussion of the proposed working group charter should initially take place on the apps-discuss list. ------------ Forwarded Message ----------- Date: June 20, 2014 at 11:06:51 AM -0400 From: Barry Leiba To: Apps Discuss cc: Cyrus Daboo Subject: Proposed working group: Timezone Data Distribution Service (tzdist) Cyrus Daboo has proposed a new working group in the Applications Area, and I'm initiating charter discussion on it: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-tzdist/ We'll have the charter discussion here on apps-discuss. Assuming a working group comes out of this, we'll create a new mailing list for the actual work, once the charter is done. Comments on this charter are welcome. I expect to put it on the 10 July IESG telechat for initial approval, after which it will go out for IETF and external review. So, comments here by 4 July, please. Barry, Applications AD ---------- End Forwarded Message ---------- -- Cyrus Daboo