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hello ietf list members.

my organization is looking to upgrade our calendar software, but i am =
having a hard time finding a full-featured, robust calendar package that =
can compete with our current software in terms of usability and =
interdepartmental collaborative options.  unfortunately the current =
software is written in arcane perl and the html it creates is not easily =
modified--a huge problem for us.  i won't mention on this list which =
calendar package we use, but if any of you professionals (or =
non-professionals!) feel like you might offer advice or suggest quality =
alternatives, please email me at webteam2@evergreen.edu.

thank you.  i really appreciate your time and knowledge, and look =
forward to hearing from you.  best of luck with the calendar =
discussions.

sincerely,

cody hinchliff

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">hello ietf list members.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">my organization is looking to upgrade =
our calendar software, but i am having a hard time finding a =
full-featured, robust calendar package that can compete with our current =
software in terms of usability and interdepartmental collaborative =
options.&nbsp; unfortunately the current software is written in arcane =
perl and the html it creates is not easily modified--a huge problem for =
us.&nbsp; i won't mention on this list which calendar package we use, =
but if any of you professionals (or non-professionals!) feel like you =
might offer advice or suggest quality alternatives, please email me at =
webteam2@evergreen.edu.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">thank you.&nbsp; i really appreciate =
your time and knowledge, and look forward to hearing from you.&nbsp; =
best of luck with the calendar discussions.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">sincerely,</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">cody hinchliff</FONT>
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question about calendar softwareCody,

At UW Madison, we are currently in the process of looking for a calendar package for our campus.  We are most interested in finding an "Open Source" package that meets our needs.  If you come up with candidates that meet your requirements during your search, I would be very interested in hearing what you find. whether or not they are open source.  As you progress, if you  could post a message to this list, I think that would be very helpful.

Thanks -curt.
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  hello ietf list members. 

  my organization is looking to upgrade our calendar software, but i am having a hard time finding a full-featured, robust calendar package that can compete with our current software in terms of usability and interdepartmental collaborative options.  unfortunately the current software is written in arcane perl and the html it creates is not easily modified--a huge problem for us.  i won't mention on this list which calendar package we use, but if any of you professionals (or non-professionals!) feel like you might offer advice or suggest quality alternatives, please email me at webteam2@evergreen.edu.

  thank you.  i really appreciate your time and knowledge, and look forward to hearing from you.  best of luck with the calendar discussions.

  sincerely, 

  cody hinchliff 

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<DIV><FONT size=2>Cody,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>At UW Madison, we are currently in the process of looking for 
a calendar package for our campus.&nbsp; We are most interested in finding an 
"Open Source" package that meets our needs.&nbsp; If you come up with candidates 
that meet your requirements&nbsp;during your search, I would be very interested 
in hearing what you find. whether or not they are open source.&nbsp; As you 
progress, if you&nbsp; could post a message to this list, I think that would be 
very helpful.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Thanks -curt.</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=webteam2@evergreen.edu href="mailto:webteam2@evergreen.edu">Web Team 
  (Cody Hinchliff)</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=ietf-calendar@imc.org 
  href="mailto:ietf-calendar@imc.org">ietf-calendar@imc.org</A> </DIV>
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  software</DIV>
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  <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>hello ietf list members.</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>my organization is looking to upgrade our calendar 
  software, but i am having a hard time finding a full-featured, robust calendar 
  package that can compete with our current software in terms of usability and 
  interdepartmental collaborative options.&nbsp; unfortunately the current 
  software is written in arcane perl and the html it creates is not easily 
  modified--a huge problem for us.&nbsp; i won't mention on this list which 
  calendar package we use, but if any of you professionals (or 
  non-professionals!) feel like you might offer advice or suggest quality 
  alternatives, please email me at webteam2@evergreen.edu.</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>thank you.&nbsp; i really appreciate your time and 
  knowledge, and look forward to hearing from you.&nbsp; best of luck with the 
  calendar discussions.</FONT></P>
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Why does 4.6.4 of RFC 2445 specify that recurrence properties
are not to be used in vfreebusy?
Seems like a natural use case to me.....

-mda



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Subject: VCAL 1.0 RRULE Spec?
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I am looking for a full spec of the RRULE format for VCALENDAR 1.0  (vCal,
not iCalendar).

The vCalendar 1.0 spec says it is based on the XAPIA CSA specification but I
can't find the full spec document anywhere.

Regards,
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For 1.0 of vCalendar see: http://www.imc.org/pdi

The XAPIA standard is a commercial specification that
I do not think is available any more.

A version is at:

 http://docsun.cites.uiuc.edu/sun_docs/C/solaris_9/SUNWdtad/CDEPG/p33.html


I have a printed copy of the original. It is from X/Open
and the ISBN # is: 1-85912-076-8 available at:

 http://www.opengroup.org/products/publications/catalog/isbn.htm


Dan Hickman wrote:

>I am looking for a full spec of the RRULE format for VCALENDAR 1.0  (vCal,
>not iCalendar).
>
>The vCalendar 1.0 spec says it is based on the XAPIA CSA specification but I
>can't find the full spec document anywhere.
>
>Regards,
>Dan Hickman
>Rockin' Software
>dhickman@rockinsoftware.com
>http://www.rockinsoftware.com
>  
>

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Subject: Re: rrule not allowed in vfreebusy?
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I think the point is to allow dumb clients.

If all you have to do is read the FB file and work out a pretty gantt
chart vs implement a whole repeat rule set of logic, working our FB for
a particular date range is a no-brainer.

I find the way this was speced elegant and efficient.

The recurrence is implemented in the main iCal and can flow through to
any FB files required. See JiCal (for example) as a sort of correct
example of this.


HTH

Stu


On Mon, 2004-10-04 at 08:14, Mark D. Anderson wrote:
> Why does 4.6.4 of RFC 2445 specify that recurrence properties
> are not to be used in vfreebusy?
> Seems like a natural use case to me.....
> 
> -mda
> 



