From owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Mon Aug 01 13:05:28 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DzdjE-0005Q4-IA for calsch-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2005 13:05:28 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA24369 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 13:05:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j71GvC1T065015; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 09:57:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j71GvCtE065014; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 09:57:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from royer.com (inet-consulting.com [4.23.9.166]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j71GvAJh065006 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 09:57:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@Royer.com) Received: from [192.168.168.10] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by royer.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j71Gv4Xh008669 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 1 Aug 2005 09:57:07 -0700 Message-ID: <42EE5460.1070105@Royer.com> Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 10:57:04 -0600 From: Doug Royer Reply-To: "ietf-calendar@imc.org" Organization: IntelliCal.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040805 Netscape/7.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lisa Dusseault , "ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org" , "ietf-calendar@imc.org" Subject: Re: [Ietf-calsify] Final(?) agenda for CALSIFY tomorrow References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms060704050705050509030801" Received-SPF: pass (royer.com: 127.0.0.1 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) X-INET-Consulting.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact SiteAdmin@INET-Consulting.com for more information X-INET-Consulting.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms060704050705050509030801 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020103080305060409000604" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020103080305060409000604 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There has been some misunderstanding here. 1) IANA does have the ability to register time zones and they said they want that role. 2) They do NOT want to be a time zone 'server', just a registration place. After emaling IANA and Ted I sent an email to CALSCH (where emails must go per 2445 for iCal registration processes) saying the next revision of the draft will remove all HTTP and FTP references making the draft an IANA registration process only. Something IANA says they want to do. And as soon as the ID submissions are allowed again (after meeting) I will submit a new additional 2nd draft: tz-server-00. And it would have been nice if Ted would have told me (the author of the independent draft) rather than talking to Lisa. In my last email to Ted I reminded him it was not a CALSIFY draft. Ted also talked to me in email about 'other ways' to do this, he was not specific. I want to move this draft forward. All communications need to be done with all knowledgeable persons. My 2nd 'SERVER' idea that is independent of the registration draft is to allow vendors to set up servers to allow any client that gets an iTIP message generated by their products to get the latest TZ information. So when you send an iTIP invitation to a user they will have the the ability to get the latest TZ information as used by that vendor, and not a snapshot of what was valid the time it was sent. As many in the U.S. know, our TZ info may be changing soon. All static VTIMEZONE entries sent with iCal object may be inaccurate soon for the US. > > 10 min: Timezone Registry Requirements -- new agenda item > - > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-royer-timezone-registry-02.txt > - Although this is not a WG chartered item, Ted Hardie (our Area > Director) and I discussed this > draft briefly, and we need to hear from implementors whether it's a > requirement to have a TZ registry > and if so does it need to be available in a format that's conducive to > clients automatically updating > their timezone descriptions. > - I've also been told that IANA doesn't have the ability to do a > registry with the features > specified in this document. > -- Doug Royer | http://INET-Consulting.com -------------------------------|----------------------------- We Do Standards - You Need Standards --------------020103080305060409000604 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="Doug.vcf" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Doug.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit begin:vcard fn:Doug Royer n:Royer;Doug org:INET-Consulting.com adr:;;1795 W. 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<42EE5460.1070105@Royer.com> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 08:08:08 +0200 To: "ietf-calendar@imc.org" , Lisa Dusseault , "ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org" From: Ted Hardie Subject: Re: [Ietf-calsify] Final(?) agenda for CALSIFY tomorrow Cc: Doug Royer Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: At 10:57 AM -0600 8/1/05, Doug Royer wrote: >T >And it would have been nice if Ted would have told me (the author >of the independent draft) rather than talking to Lisa. In my last >email to Ted I reminded him it was not a CALSIFY draft. Ted also >talked to me in email about 'other ways' to do this, he was not >specific. I want to move this draft forward. All communications >need to be done with all knowledgeable persons. Sorry for any confusion on this; I had just talked to the IANA folks here on site in Paris when Lisa and I ran into each other and chatted. I did recommend Lisa talk to you, but I thought she was doing so after the IETF meeting and that I had time to talk to you about my discussions with the IANA folk. Obviously, I lost the race condition here, and I apologize for not getting back to you faster, Ted From owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Tue Aug 02 04:59:34 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DzscY-0008RF-5x for calsch-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2005 04:59:34 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA00970 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2005 04:59:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j728qQwf041998; Tue, 2 Aug 2005 01:52:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j728qQow041997; Tue, 2 Aug 2005 01:52:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from smtp.osafoundation.org (laweleka.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.98]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j728qQRt041988 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2005 01:52:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lisa@osafoundation.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BD68142270 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2005 01:52:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27276-07; Tue, 2 Aug 2005 01:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from open-30-166.ietf63.ietf.org (open-27-106.ietf63.ietf.org [86.255.27.106]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36DC314226F; Tue, 2 Aug 2005 01:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 10:52:20 +0200 To: "ietf-calendar@imc.org" , "ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org" Subject: Re: [Ietf-calsify] Final(?) agenda for CALSIFY tomorrow References: <42EE5460.1070105@Royer.com> From: "Lisa Dusseault" Organization: OSAF Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <42EE5460.1070105@Royer.com> User-Agent: Opera M2/8.01 (MacPPC, build 2092) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org Sender: owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks for the clarifications Doug, and I can assure you there was no intent to avoid communicating with you on your draft. I wanted to discuss timezone registries and services in CALSIFY independent of Ted's comments. As the discussion in the WG meeting showed today, although CALSIFY's work may not block on timezone rationalization, timezone work certainly does affect CALSIFY work and the draft needed to be pointed out to CALSIFY participants. I'm not sure what it means to say that IANA "wants to do" a registry. It's my understanding that IANA implements registries (provided they're technically able to) based on IETF recommendations resulting from IETF review of proposals. So it would seem more important whether the IETF wants IANA to do a registry (and how) and the CALSIFY WG discussion raised a few important questions about that. Lisa On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 18:57:04 +0200, Doug Royer wrote: > > There has been some misunderstanding here. > > 1) IANA does have the ability to register time zones and > they said they want that role. > > 2) They do NOT want to be a time zone 'server', just > a registration place. > > After emaling IANA and Ted I sent an email to CALSCH (where > emails must go per 2445 for iCal registration processes) saying > the next revision of the draft will remove all HTTP and FTP > references making the draft an IANA registration process only. > Something IANA says they want to do. > > And as soon as the ID submissions are allowed again (after meeting) > I will submit a new additional 2nd draft: tz-server-00. > > And it would have been nice if Ted would have told me (the author > of the independent draft) rather than talking to Lisa. In my last > email to Ted I reminded him it was not a CALSIFY draft. Ted also > talked to me in email about 'other ways' to do this, he was not > specific. I want to move this draft forward. All communications > need to be done with all knowledgeable persons. > > My 2nd 'SERVER' idea that is independent of the registration draft > is to allow vendors to set up servers to allow any client that > gets an iTIP message generated by their products to get > the latest TZ information. So when you send an iTIP invitation > to a user they will have the the ability to get the latest TZ > information as used by that vendor, and not a snapshot of what > was valid the time it was sent. As many in the U.S. know, our > TZ info may be changing soon. All static VTIMEZONE > entries sent with iCal object may be inaccurate soon for the US. > >> >> 10 min: Timezone Registry Requirements -- new agenda item >> - >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-royer-timezone-registry-02.txt >> - Although this is not a WG chartered item, Ted Hardie (our Area >> Director) and I discussed this >> draft briefly, and we need to hear from implementors whether it's a >> requirement to have a TZ registry >> and if so does it need to be available in a format that's conducive to >> clients automatically updating >> their timezone descriptions. >> - I've also been told that IANA doesn't have the ability to do a >> registry with the features >> specified in this document. >> -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Thu Aug 04 12:16:43 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E0iOg-0003i8-Cp for calsch-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 12:16:43 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA22597 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 12:16:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j74G5NoC051828; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 09:05:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j74G5Nib051827; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 09:05:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.206]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with SMTP id j74G5MSw051816 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 09:05:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Dave.Thewlis@calconnect.org) Received: (qmail 10830 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2005 16:05:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.102?) (dave.thewlis@sbcglobal.net@69.107.98.68 with plain) by smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Aug 2005 16:05:16 -0000 Message-ID: <42F23CB9.3030103@calconnect.org> Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 09:05:13 -0700 From: Dave Thewlis Reply-To: Dave.Thewlis@calconnect.org Organization: The Calendaring and Scheduling Consortium User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ietf-calendar list Subject: Registration open for Calconnect Roundtable and Interop Testing Event, September 2005 - The Calendaring and Scheduling Consortium Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Please note that this announcement is being posted on multiple calendaring-related reflectors and to the Calconnect mailing lists to ensure as wide a distribution as possible.  Our apologies if you receive multiple copies.


CALCONNECT ROUNDTABLE IV - 13-15 September 2005
 
CALCONNECT INTEROP TESTING EVENT -  13-14 September 2005

 
CalConnect - The Calendaring and Scheduling Consortium - invites you to our fourth Roundtable and to the associated Calendaring and Scheduling Interop Testing Event on 13-15 September, 2005 in San Francisco, hosted by OSAF, the Open Source Applications Foundation. 

Registration is now open for these events as of 4 August 2005.


The Roundtable, 13-15 September, will feature Technical Committee meetings, ad hoc meetings, and a full Plenary of the Consortium.  You must represent a member of CalConnect to attend the Roundtable unless your organization chooses to participate as an Observer (a non-member who wishes to attend a Roundtable to evaluate participation in the Consortium).

The Interop, 13-14 September (at the same location), will offer multiple Interop Testing Scenarios including
  • extensive CalDAV testing,
  • RFC (iCalendar, iMIP, iTIP) interoperability and RFC conformance testing
  • CALSIFY minimum interoperability testing. 
Participating organizations may choose one or more than one scenario for testing -- however these scenarios will be going on simultaneously so you will probably need a person for each scenario you participate in. 

Interop participation is open to all interested organizations that wish to test calendaring and scheduling implementations, and is not limited to members of the Consortium (although members receive a significant discount on the Interop participation fee).
 

REGISTRATION FEES
 
Roundtable:  $275 per individual until 15 May and $325 thereafter.  The Roundtable is limited to representatives of Consortium members or declared Observers (an non-member that wishes to attend a Roundtable to evaluate participation in the Consortium).   Registration for the Roundtable does not include Interop participation.
 
Interop: $1500 for Consortium members and $2500 for non-members.  The registration fee covers two individuals; additional individuals are $275 each for members or non-members.  (If you are planning to participate in more than one Interop scenario, or participate in all the TC meetings, you will need more than one person and possibly more than two.)  The Interop Registration Fee also covers participation in the Consortium Roundtable for members or declared observers.
 

ADDITIONAL DETAILS AND REGISTRATION INFORMATION

More information on the Roundtable, including logistics, current schedule and agenda planning, and registration information is available on the Consortium website at http://www.calconnect.org/roundtable4.html. 

More information on the Interop including logistics, planning, and registration information is available on the Consortium website at http://www.calconnect.org/iopsep2005.html.

You may also go to Consortium site at http://www.calconnect.org and select "Coming Events" from the sidebar to find logistics, planning and registration information for both the Roundtable and the Interop.

For questions and additional information please contact the Consortium's Executive Director, Dave Thewlis, via the contact information listed below.

Space will be limited, so register as soon as possible.

Best Regards,

Dave Thewlis

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From owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Thu Aug 04 12:38:59 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E0ikE-0000l3-UG for calsch-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 12:38:59 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA23617 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 12:38:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j74GUUjX054409; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 09:30:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j74GUUCK054408; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 09:30:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.204]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with SMTP id j74GUSDc054398 for ; Thu, 4 Aug 2005 09:30:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Dave.Thewlis@calconnect.org) Received: (qmail 77078 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2005 16:30:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.102?) (dave.thewlis@sbcglobal.net@69.107.98.68 with plain) by smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Aug 2005 16:30:23 -0000 Message-ID: <42F2429B.9050509@calconnect.org> Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 09:30:19 -0700 From: Dave Thewlis Reply-To: Dave.Thewlis@calconnect.org Organization: The Calendaring and Scheduling Consortium User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ietf-calendar list Subject: Errata on Calconnect Roundtable and Interop Announcement for September 2005 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 1.  The registration fee for the Roundtable was mistakenly quoted as $275 through 15 May 2005.  The correct information is $275 through 31 August 2005; the registration fee goes up to $325 on 1 September 2005.

2.  Apparently there was some garbage HTML hidden before the beginning of my announcement e-mail which was not visible when I composed it and does not show in all e-mail clients.  However, if it does show in your client and you wish a revised version of the announcement please let me know.  I hesitate to send the whole thing out again to everybody.

Dave Thewlis

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1.0 To: xcal-dev@inet-consulting.com CC: Calsify , CalDAV DevList , www-rdf-calendar@w3.org, "ietf-calendar@imc.org" Subject: xCal - resubmitted. Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040500060400060002010604" Received-SPF: pass (royer.com: 127.0.0.1 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) X-INET-Consulting.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact SiteAdmin@INET-Consulting.com for more information X-INET-Consulting.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040500060400060002010604 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The xCal draft has been rewritten and submitted to the IETF. I have an XSLT translation file that I will be releasing soon on SourceForge that can translate an xCal object back to an iCal object. I am waiting for SourceForge to approve the project name. Discussion takes place on xCal@INET-Consulting.com Copies of the draft at: http://INET-Consulting.com/draft-royer-calsch-xcal-01.txt http://INET-Consulting.com/draft-royer-calsch-xcal-01.html http://INET-Consulting.com/draft-royer-calsch-xcal-01.xml JOIN the xCal mailing list at: http://inet-consulting.com/mailman/listinfo/xcal -- Doug Royer | http://INET-Consulting.com -------------------------------|----------------------------- We Do Standards - You Need Standards --------------040500060400060002010604 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="Doug.vcf" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Doug.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit begin:vcard fn:Doug Royer n:Royer;Doug org:INET-Consulting.com adr:;;1795 W. Broadway St #266;Idaho Falls;ID;83402;U.S.A email;internet:Doug@Royer.com title:CEO tel;work:208-881-0380 tel;fax:866-494-8574 note;quoted-printable:AOL: SupportUnix=0D=0A= MSN: Support@INET-Consulting.com=0D=0A= Yahoo: Help4Unix x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://Royer.com version:2.1 end:vcard --------------040500060400060002010604-- From owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Tue Aug 09 05:17:41 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E2QEu-0002EK-DJ for calsch-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 09 Aug 2005 05:17:41 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA23919 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 05:17:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j7998nDj035674; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 02:08:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j7998nSA035673; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 02:08:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with SMTP id j7998kDS035627 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 02:08:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian.reschke@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Aug 2005 09:08:40 -0000 Received: from p508FAAA5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.178.21]) [80.143.170.165] by mail.gmx.net (mp027) with SMTP; 09 Aug 2005 11:08:40 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1915285 Message-ID: <42F8728F.9070808@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 11:08:31 +0200 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Royer CC: xcal-dev@inet-consulting.com, Calsify , CalDAV DevList , www-rdf-calendar@w3.org, "ietf-calendar@imc.org" Subject: Re: [Ietf-caldav] xCal - resubmitted. References: <42F7C417.3050503@Royer.com> In-Reply-To: <42F7C417.3050503@Royer.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Sender: owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Doug Royer wrote: > > > The xCal draft has been rewritten and submitted to the IETF. > > I have an XSLT translation file that I will be releasing > soon on SourceForge that can translate an xCal object > back to an iCal object. I am waiting for SourceForge > to approve the project name. > > Discussion takes place on xCal@INET-Consulting.com > > Copies of the draft at: > > http://INET-Consulting.com/draft-royer-calsch-xcal-01.txt > http://INET-Consulting.com/draft-royer-calsch-xcal-01.html > http://INET-Consulting.com/draft-royer-calsch-xcal-01.xml > > > JOIN the xCal mailing list at: > > http://inet-consulting.com/mailman/listinfo/xcal > Just two quick formal comments...: 1) Is it intentional that in the examples, the iCalendar container element is in no namespace? 2) I don't think the IETF will let you use something like "http://ietf.org/rfc/rfcXXXX.txt" as namespace name; but if they do, you probably should use "http://ietf.org/rfc/rfcXXXX" (no extension) instead. 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Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 02:35:09 -0700 Message-ID: <6B5F25B9F515B744B97F1B6E99AC9F591458A4@DF-SCRUFFY-MSG.exchange.corp.microsoft.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Thread-Topic: [Ietf-caldav] xCal - resubmitted. Thread-Index: AcWcwcBb05r0QopzRrqUhjyKd2XbRQAAaOyg X-Priority: 5 Importance: low From: "Cameron Stillion" To: "Doug Royer" Cc: , "Calsify" , "CalDAV DevList" , , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by above.proper.com id j799oY9P050170 Sender: owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 2.2.1 Are you minimizing the difference between the inherent unicode capabilities of XML and the rather esoteric encoding requirements of iCal? Simply wrapping the data in tags is not really enough... 2.2.2 isomeric - I think you mean "isometric". Ah, the difference one character can make... also - why is it required to send an alternate MIME body part in normal iCal format? Is this format designed to replace the old format? Ultimately? If so, why should both be required? iCal readers of old can read xcal via transform, and new applications can easily parse using a standard xml parser... Why limit all uses of this to also implement the old way of doing things? This seems counter productive to me. 2.11 why not simply use "text/xcal" ? again, why the restriction for backwards compatability? This sounds like you are enforcing client functionality. How about you allow the MTA or client application to determine whether or not to send a downlevel representation? 2.12 how about using a double extension - .xml.xcs This is reminiscent of tar files for those who are ancient enough to remember those - anytime to add another layer of schematization over a file, you add an extension. Why don't we follow the same pattern? I can't think of a good reason not to. While you're at it - why not go another step further and specify file extensions for the different types of iCals (which the ical standard unfortunately failed to do) - for instance, a meeting request "method='request'" might have an extension of .xrc while a published calendar "method='publish'" might have an extension of .xcs - this gives everyone a much more tangible understanding of the data without having to crack it and parse it first. There's a thought. 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1E2VFB-0002LM-Up for calsch-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 09 Aug 2005 10:38:18 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA11881 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 10:38:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j79ETYW5047519; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 07:29:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j79ETYvL047518; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 07:29:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with SMTP id j79ETWog047504 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 07:29:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian.reschke@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Aug 2005 14:29:26 -0000 Received: from p508FAAA5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.178.21]) [80.143.170.165] by mail.gmx.net (mp030) with SMTP; 09 Aug 2005 16:29:26 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1915285 Message-ID: <42F8BDB3.5000100@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 16:29:07 +0200 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Connolly CC: Doug Royer , xcal-dev@inet-consulting.com, Calsify , CalDAV DevList , www-rdf-calendar@w3.org, "ietf-calendar@imc.org" Subject: Re: [Ietf-caldav] xCal - resubmitted. References: <42F7C417.3050503@Royer.com> <42F8728F.9070808@gmx.de> <1123597518.18971.922.camel@dirk> In-Reply-To: <1123597518.18971.922.camel@dirk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Sender: owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dan Connolly wrote: > On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 11:08 +0200, Julian Reschke wrote: > [...] > >>>Copies of the draft at: >>> >>> http://INET-Consulting.com/draft-royer-calsch-xcal-01.txt >>> http://INET-Consulting.com/draft-royer-calsch-xcal-01.html >>> http://INET-Consulting.com/draft-royer-calsch-xcal-01.xml >> >>Just two quick formal comments...: >> >>1) Is it intentional that in the examples, the iCalendar container >>element is in no namespace? >> >>2) I don't think the IETF will let you use something like >>"http://ietf.org/rfc/rfcXXXX.txt" as namespace name; > > > Right; I gather Best Current Practice is... > > [[[ > If the registrant wishes to > have a URI assigned, then a URN of the form > > urn:ietf:params:xml:: > > will be assigned where is the type of the document being > registered (see below). > ]]] > -- http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc3688.html One could probably also use: (see ). > ... Best regards, Julian From owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Tue Aug 09 16:27:16 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E2agt-0001KK-9m for calsch-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 09 Aug 2005 16:27:16 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA12411 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 16:27:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j79KIg2q078170; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 13:18:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j79KIgoD078169; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 13:18:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from royer.com (inet-consulting.com [4.23.9.166]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j79KIfba078162 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 13:18:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@royer.com) Received: from [192.168.168.10] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by royer.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j79KIVg8025037 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 9 Aug 2005 13:18:35 -0700 Message-ID: <42F90F96.7040504@Royer.com> Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 14:18:30 -0600 From: Doug Royer Reply-To: xcal@inet-consulting.com Organization: IntelliCal.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040805 Netscape/7.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: xcal@inet-consulting.com CC: Calsify , CalDAV DevList , "ietf-calendar@imc.org" Subject: Re: [Ietf-calsify] RE: [Ietf-caldav] xCal - resubmitted. References: <6B5F25B9F515B744B97F1B6E99AC9F591458F8@DF-SCRUFFY-MSG.exchange.corp.microsoft.com> In-Reply-To: <6B5F25B9F515B744B97F1B6E99AC9F591458F8@DF-SCRUFFY-MSG.exchange.corp.microsoft.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms000505060505050205020801" Received-SPF: pass (royer.com: 127.0.0.1 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) X-INET-Consulting.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact SiteAdmin@INET-Consulting.com for more information X-INET-Consulting.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms000505060505050205020801 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030001070904020705060900" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030001070904020705060900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [ I have set the REPLY-TO the xcal@INET-Consulting.com mailing list - This is of interest to CALSIFY and CALDAV users, but not really 'on topic' - Join at http://inet-consulting.com/mailman/listinfo/xcal ] > Anyway, is there anyone else who feels as I do that enforcing both xcal > and ical as multipart alternative is overkill? Or is this also beyond > the scope of this proposal? This is left over from the CALSCH days. When Frank, Surendra, and I did the first XCAL, we were told by the AD's at the time that they would not endorse ANOTHER calendar data format, unless it was an alternate view of iCalendar data. So the agreed solution was that xCal objects would be attached as an alternate view to iCal objects. Currently iMIP requires that people use S/MIME. I do not recall seeing many S/MIME iCalendar emails. The danger here is that we re-invent the wheel breaking things. The purpose of CALSIFY is to simplify and make a set of objects and procedures that will enable iCal and vendors to have standard calendaring objects. If we open up the debate to XML 'IS calendaring' then all that is compatibility that we already have is lost. There are many XML parsers out there and XML can be transformed back into iCal (see my posting of the XSLT translation on the xCal mailing list). 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DevList , "ietf-calendar@imc.org" Subject: Re: xCal - resubmitted - file name suffix References: <6B5F25B9F515B744B97F1B6E99AC9F591458F8@DF-SCRUFFY-MSG.exchange.corp.microsoft.com> In-Reply-To: <6B5F25B9F515B744B97F1B6E99AC9F591458F8@DF-SCRUFFY-MSG.exchange.corp.microsoft.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms010705010402090100040405" Received-SPF: pass (royer.com: 127.0.0.1 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) X-INET-Consulting.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact SiteAdmin@INET-Consulting.com for more information X-INET-Consulting.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010705010402090100040405 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080208010200080206020103" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080208010200080206020103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [ I have set the REPLY-TO to the xcal@INET-Consulting.com mailing list - This is of interest to CALSIFY and CALDAV users, but not really 'on topic' - Join at http://inet-consulting.com/mailman/listinfo/xcal ] As to the file name suffix point . Many insisted (Mostly Microsoft and Microsoft application developers) that iCal define a file extension. And as I have noticed that MANY implementations store ICS files without their text/calendar MIME header. I suspect many will for xCAL. So without a MIME type in the file, many data typing engines would fail if it were not for a file name suffix. So xCal has a file extension. I do not care what it is. And I do not care how many 'dots' are in the file name as long as the OS's and their applications allow for it. Cameron Stillion wrote: > REBTW2: Extension "stacking" is not "unsupported" by most systems > either. It works fine in Unix, Mac, and Windows. It is supported by some POSIX (UNIX, Linux, BSD, and newer Mac) applications, but not those OS's. In fact on those POSIX OS's the 'dot' means nothing at all and it is simply another character in the file name that can have zero to many 'dot's in the file name. Cameron - Question: Can the windows registry handle multiple DOTs in suffixes to files on what ever are the top most Windows versions in use? My VERY LIMITED knowledge and testing says no, but I might not know what I am doing as I use POSIX systems for almost everything. -- Doug Royer | http://INET-Consulting.com -------------------------------|----------------------------- We Do Standards - You Need Standards --------------080208010200080206020103 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="Doug.vcf" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Doug.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit begin:vcard fn:Doug Royer n:Royer;Doug org:INET-Consulting.com adr:;;1795 W. 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DF-Scruffy-BHD.Exchange.Microsoft.com ([157.54.54.216]) by df-hub-01.exchange.corp.microsoft.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 9 Aug 2005 17:57:12 -0700 In-Reply-To: <42F9164E.6010401@Royer.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Aug 2005 00:57:12.0881 (UTC) FILETIME=[71955210:01C59D46] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: [Ietf-caldav] Re: xCal - resubmitted - file name suffix Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 17:59:37 -0700 Message-ID: <6B5F25B9F515B744B97F1B6E99AC9F5914598F@DF-SCRUFFY-MSG.exchange.corp.microsoft.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Thread-Topic: [Ietf-caldav] Re: xCal - resubmitted - file name suffix Thread-Index: AcWdI0fChHEkTb7GT2C1BiAAfr3bWgAEcWsQ From: "Cameron Stillion" To: Cc: "Calsify" , "CalDAV DevList" , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by above.proper.com id j7A0xj35001211 Sender: owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The multiple dots have no ill effects to users of Windows versions that support long filenames (XP, 2000, and perhaps 98, though to a limited degree) - only the final dot extension is meaningful when associating application behaviors or displaying icons, etc. The rest of the string is considered the filename sans extension. Like the .tar example, this leaves further "unwrapping" of the file up to the application. -----Original Message----- From: ietf-caldav-bounces@osafoundation.org [mailto:ietf-caldav-bounces@osafoundation.org] On Behalf Of Doug Royer Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 1:47 PM To: xcal@inet-consulting.com Cc: Calsify; CalDAV DevList; ietf-calendar@imc.org Subject: [Ietf-caldav] Re: xCal - resubmitted - file name suffix [ I have set the REPLY-TO to the xcal@INET-Consulting.com mailing list - This is of interest to CALSIFY and CALDAV users, but not really 'on topic' - Join at http://inet-consulting.com/mailman/listinfo/xcal ] As to the file name suffix point . Many insisted (Mostly Microsoft and Microsoft application developers) that iCal define a file extension. And as I have noticed that MANY implementations store ICS files without their text/calendar MIME header. I suspect many will for xCAL. So without a MIME type in the file, many data typing engines would fail if it were not for a file name suffix. So xCal has a file extension. I do not care what it is. And I do not care how many 'dots' are in the file name as long as the OS's and their applications allow for it. Cameron Stillion wrote: > REBTW2: Extension "stacking" is not "unsupported" by most systems > either. It works fine in Unix, Mac, and Windows. It is supported by some POSIX (UNIX, Linux, BSD, and newer Mac) applications, but not those OS's. In fact on those POSIX OS's the 'dot' means nothing at all and it is simply another character in the file name that can have zero to many 'dot's in the file name. Cameron - Question: Can the windows registry handle multiple DOTs in suffixes to files on what ever are the top most Windows versions in use? My VERY LIMITED knowledge and testing says no, but I might not know what I am doing as I use POSIX systems for almost everything. -- Doug Royer | http://INET-Consulting.com -------------------------------|----------------------------- We Do Standards - You Need Standards From owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Tue Aug 09 23:15:57 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E2h4P-00043j-8B for calsch-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 09 Aug 2005 23:15:57 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (above.proper.com [208.184.76.39]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA01863 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 23:15:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j7A38o9R013584; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 20:08:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j7A38owO013583; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 20:08:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [63.240.76.22]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j7A38nsG013559 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2005 20:08:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from TimHare@comcast.net) Received: from thare.comcast.net (pcp03614075pcs.micske01.fl.comcast.net[68.84.31.33]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2005081002292001200pdq60e>; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 02:29:20 +0000 Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050809222707.01ea2408@mail.comcast.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 22:29:26 -0400 To: xcal-dev@inet-consulting.com, xcal-dev@inet-consulting.com From: Tim Hare Subject: Re: xCal - namespace URL Cc: Calsify , CalDAV DevList , "ietf-calendar@imc.org" In-Reply-To: <42F9179B.30008@Royer.com> References: <42F7C417.3050503@Royer.com> <42F8728F.9070808@gmx.de> <42F9179B.30008@Royer.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-ietf-calendar@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-ID: List-Unsubscribe: Actually, if I recall my XML rules, you can code:


<xCal:iCalendar
xmlns:xCal="http://ietf.org/rfc/rfcXXXX.txt">
Namespaces apply to the containing element as well. And I agree that the iCalendar element should be in a namespace. Just for human-readability reasons it associates the iCalendar with the xCal namespace, and that's a good thing to be reminded ot.

At 04:52 PM 8/9/2005, Doug Royer wrote:


Julian Reschke wrote:

Just two quick formal comments...:
1) Is it intentional that in the examples, the iCalendar container element is in no namespace?

I think we need to have it in a namespace.
I can go ether way.

I think we need to define one so that mixed content can
exist in an XML file.

2) I don't think the IETF will let you use something like " http://ietf.org/rfc/rfcXXXX.txt" as namespace name; but if they do, you probably should use " http://ietf.org/rfc/rfcXXXX" (no extension) instead.

:-)

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Doug Royer                     | http://INET-Consulting.com
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