From capwap-admin@frascone.com Tue Nov 01 11:56:16 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EWzQm-0004Ev-Cj for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 11:56:16 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA01816 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 11:55:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A2C20397; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 11:56:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from twoface.cisco.frascone.com (sj-natpool-220.cisco.com [128.107.248.220]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 397D22008B for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 11:55:17 -0500 (EST) From: David Frascone To: capwap@frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Message-ID: <20051101105515.1dfdcf3a@twoface.cisco.frascone.com> In-Reply-To: <893AE265F4ADF94AB7FB26D31A788E410131DE9C@mvebe101.NOE.Nokia.com> References: <893AE265F4ADF94AB7FB26D31A788E410131DE9C@mvebe101.NOE.Nokia.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.4a (GTK+ 1.2.10; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) X-Face: BZe8R&S)}GEDsLp@ay#IT{'D/X6}Xu/])^zA7D2W{)kwVA7)IhgW*{QSX6W(\BWhSON`p7% e3xQ1oJ=Qb@cQf#x[_Qas)'1f0;9DQJ>02}F_!.`'y>LE~`8e'{XO=fNX{n#\1:s:`Xy Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: capwap-admin@frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 10:55:15 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit YES On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 17:12:57 -0700 wrote: > >After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed >by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The >evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and >should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. > >Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new >CAPWAP protocol: > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. > >The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be >address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be >addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG >consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the >Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and >then evaluate each recommendation separately. > >Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November >4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face >CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. > >Best Regards, >Dorothy and Mani > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Capwap mailing list >Capwap@frascone.com >http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > -- David Frascone A hangover: the wrath of grapes. _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@frascone.com Tue Nov 01 15:18:08 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EX2a8-00035q-OH for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 15:18:08 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA12149 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 15:17:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8325C20576; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 15:18:03 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from sj-iport-2.cisco.com (sj-iport-2-in.cisco.com [171.71.176.71]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CCE720371 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 15:17:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 01 Nov 2005 12:17:32 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-221.cisco.com [128.107.191.63]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id jA1KHQUO028379 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 12:17:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from xmb-sjc-222.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.106]) by xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 1 Nov 2005 12:17:29 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Message-ID: <08A9A3213527A6428774900A80DBD8D8E52C23@xmb-sjc-222.amer.cisco.com> Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Thread-Index: AcXcHYQVzc3GGtl2TDecup3AXZQLvgDA6+Ww From: "Nancy Winget (ncamwing)" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2005 20:17:29.0553 (UTC) FILETIME=[48A3B410:01C5DF21] Sender: capwap-admin@frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 12:17:28 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable YES. LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. Nancy. -----Original Message----- From: capwap-admin@frascone.com [mailto:capwap-admin@frascone.com] On Behalf Of Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:13 PM To: capwap@frascone.com Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com; david.kessens@nokia.com; Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new CAPWAP protocol:=20 YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and then evaluate each recommendation separately. =20 Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. =20 Best Regards, Dorothy and Mani =20 _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@frascone.com Tue Nov 01 15:39:10 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EX2uU-0005Fb-00 for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 15:39:10 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA13293 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 15:38:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9184204C5; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 15:39:03 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from smtp.foundrynet.com (smtp.foundrynet.com [63.251.100.14]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B3F20371 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 15:38:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from email.foundrynet.com (ns100corpdmz.foundrynet.com [63.251.100.1]) by smtp.foundrynet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C971604EB for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 12:38:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by email.foundrynet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 871ACC24036 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 12:38:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from email.foundrynet.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (email.foundrynet.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26280-07 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 12:38:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from vsinha01210 (unknown [192.168.20.108]) by email.foundrynet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6E4C24034 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 12:38:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <014101c5df24$6492b4c0$d3000064@ds.foundrynet.com> From: "Vishal Sinha" To: References: <08A9A3213527A6428774900A80DBD8D8E52C23@xmb-sjc-222.amer.cisco.com> Subject: Re: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at foundrynet.com Sender: capwap-admin@frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 12:39:44 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NO. We need to resolve IPR issues first. Vishal Vishal Sinha Engineering Lead, Wireless Foundry Networks -----Original Message----- From: capwap-admin@frascone.com [mailto:capwap-admin@frascone.com] On Behalf Of Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:13 PM To: capwap@frascone.com Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com; david.kessens@nokia.com; Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new CAPWAP protocol: YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and then evaluate each recommendation separately. Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. Best Regards, Dorothy and Mani _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@frascone.com Tue Nov 01 16:04:09 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EX3If-0002SU-In for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 16:04:09 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA15102 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 16:03:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F00B205B9; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 16:04:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from maili.marvell.com (host2.marvell.com [65.219.4.2]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76258204BE for ; 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Tue, 01 Nov 2005 16:05:13 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA15156 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 16:04:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 663E7205CB; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 16:05:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from homebrew.trpz.com (66-7-225-40.cust.telepacific.net [66.7.225.40]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32AF8205C6 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 16:04:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from trpz.com (localhost.trpz.com [127.0.0.1]) by homebrew.trpz.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jA1KtfmF014639; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 12:55:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dharkins@trpz.com) Message-Id: <200511012055.jA1KtfmF014639@homebrew.trpz.com> To: Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Cc: capwap@frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 30 Oct 2005 23:32:56 PST." <893AE265F4ADF94AB7FB26D31A788E410131DF59@mvebe101.NOE.Nokia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <14637.1130878541.1@trpz.com> From: Dan Harkins Sender: capwap-admin@frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 12:55:41 -0800 Dorothy, I don't like the idea of breaking things up. One of the reasons is that the recommendations in the document illustrate that the selection of the base protocol was, in my opinion, incorrect. Had the document been "LWAPP with no recommended changes" that would be one thing, but it's "LWAPP minus it's base plus changes that are the base of another protocol that was not selected" and that seems wrong. The messaging of LWAPP appealed to the evaluation team and that's something I can understand. But to then recommend wholesale changes to its foundation-- its tunnelling, what it tunnels, and its security-- is bassackwards. It would've been easier to start with a base protocol that performs tunnelling the way they wanted, and tunnels what they want, and does security in the way they want and to then layer on the messaging they want. So because of this I'm forced to say: NO -- LWAPP should not be used as the basis of a CAPWAP protocol. Dan. On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 23:32:56 PST you wrote > Hi Saravanan- > > We plan to discuss and come to consensus wihtin the WG on each of the > recommendations separately, once the protocol proposed by the evaluation > team is agreed upon by the WG. > > The idea to break up the evaluation team's recommendation into 1) > protocol and 2) recommendations is solely meant to make progress on WG > consensus. If we can agree upon a protocol first, our hope is that the > WG can evaluate the recommendations easier once there is a protocol in > place. > > If you (and others in the WG) are satisfied with this approach, please > indicate your position on the protocol portion of the evaluation by YES > or NO for LWAPP. > > Best Regards, > Dorothy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: capwap-admin@frascone.com [mailto:capwap-admin@frascone.com] On > Behalf Of ext Saravanan Govindan > Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 9:45 PM > To: capwap@frascone.com > Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP > protocol > > I support a base CAPWAP protocol provided it is flexible enough to be > further developed. I think it is important to make sure the base > protocol is sufficient extensible to cover the recommendations being > proposed. > > Saravanan > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: capwap-admin@frascone.com > > [mailto:capwap-admin@frascone.com] On Behalf Of > > Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > > Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 8:13 AM > > To: capwap@frascone.com > > Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com; david.kessens@nokia.com; > > Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > > Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol > > > > > > After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft > > completed by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol > > consensus. The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most > > complete proposal and should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP > > protocol going forward. > > > > Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new > > CAPWAP protocol: > > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. > > > > The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should > > be > > address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. > > These will be > > addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG > > consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the > > Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and > > then evaluate each recommendation separately. > > > > Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November > > 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face > > CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. > > > > Best Regards, > > Dorothy and Mani > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Capwap mailing list > > Capwap@frascone.com > > http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > > _______________________________________________ > Capwap mailing list > Capwap@frascone.com > http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > _______________________________________________ > Capwap mailing list > Capwap@frascone.com > http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@frascone.com Tue Nov 01 16:37:08 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EX3oa-0001Ib-IX for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 16:37:08 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA17308 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 16:36:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16589204C5; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 16:37:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from colubris.com (ipn36373-e09096.cidr.lightship.net [216.204.238.168]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5938B20371 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 16:36:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from ([192.168.32.14]) by mail.colubris.com with ESMTP id 4321080.256914; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 16:36:44 -0500 Received: from email2.colubris.com ([192.168.32.21]) by email.colubris.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 1 Nov 2005 16:36:43 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5DF2C.5A4B8140" Subject: Re: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Message-ID: <5122CD0DF3AF4E4B940E4BB566BA370F1FAA5D@email2.colubris.com> Thread-Topic: Re: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Thread-Index: AcXfLFn9hces3sUFTZeNR3515fEvDQ== From: "Oleg Volinsky" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2005 21:36:43.0893 (UTC) FILETIME=[5A726A50:01C5DF2C] Sender: capwap-admin@frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 16:36:43 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5DF2C.5A4B8140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5DF2C.5A4B8140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

YES:  LWAPP = should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol.

 

 

------_=_NextPart_001_01C5DF2C.5A4B8140-- _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@frascone.com Tue Nov 01 16:57:08 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EX47w-0005k9-DI for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 16:57:08 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA19028 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 16:56:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3594E204A5; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 16:57:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from smtp103.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp103.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.169.222]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 623BE20371 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 16:56:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 8985 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2005 21:56:49 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Accept-Language:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=hoOfGz/5/qh6j4nq21Y/p4wuTufsoHg2vsNdK9ZzY4+VD1f4NjKeO/IIIy4WEll3QG9Nsx+OrB16BcVAJHGxzrKodAe3jFHzrvpjTNwxHPfl6+HM5v66LyhEUoZ5ohJCtIDL4SMhdGqESNtLtnEtGL46LmUn5WcPA/8AXe5dA1U= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.103?) (behcetsarikaya@24.71.246.198 with plain) by smtp103.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Nov 2005 21:56:48 -0000 Message-ID: <4367E49E.4090508@yahoo.com> From: Behcet Sarikaya Reply-To: sarikaya@ieee.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: capwap@frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol References: <893AE265F4ADF94AB7FB26D31A788E410131DE9C@mvebe101.NOE.Nokia.com> In-Reply-To: <893AE265F4ADF94AB7FB26D31A788E410131DE9C@mvebe101.NOE.Nokia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: capwap-admin@frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 13:56:46 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol --behcet Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com wrote: >After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed >by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The >evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and >should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. > >Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new >CAPWAP protocol: > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. > >The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be >address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be >addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG >consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the >Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and >then evaluate each recommendation separately. > >Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November >4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face >CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. > >Best Regards, >Dorothy and Mani > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Capwap mailing list >Capwap@frascone.com >http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > > > _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@frascone.com Tue Nov 01 17:09:10 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EX4JY-0004t2-VR for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 17:09:10 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA20018 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 17:08:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB297205DC; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 17:09:03 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from tiere.net.avaya.com (tiere.net.avaya.com [198.152.12.100]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9587B205C2 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 17:08:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from tiere.net.avaya.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiere.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id jA1M5q4P029691 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 17:05:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from nj7460avexu2.global.avaya.com (h198-152-6-52.avaya.com [198.152.6.52]) by tiere.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id jA1M3p4P027023 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 17:04:29 -0500 (EST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Message-ID: <5844A41F4E146044A2E8356C6328588009F24EA8@nj7460avexu2.global.avaya.com> Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Thread-Index: AcXcHYQVzc3GGtl2TDecup3AXZQLvgDEr3DA From: "Sadot, Emek (Emek)" To: , Cc: , "Mani, Mahalingam (Mahalingam)" , Sender: capwap-admin@frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 17:06:36 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes=20 -----Original Message----- From: capwap-admin@frascone.com [mailto:capwap-admin@frascone.com] On Behalf Of Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 8:13 PM To: capwap@frascone.com Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; Mani, Mahalingam (Mahalingam); david.kessens@nokia.com; Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new CAPWAP protocol:=20 YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and then evaluate each recommendation separately. =20 Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. =20 Best Regards, Dorothy and Mani =20 _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@frascone.com Tue Nov 01 17:15:14 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EX4PS-0007y2-40 for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 17:15:14 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA20652 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 17:14:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D659B205DC; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 17:15:03 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from mgw-ext04.nokia.com (mgw-ext04.nokia.com [131.228.20.96]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E117B204C5 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 17:14:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from esebh108.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh108.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.143.145]) by mgw-ext04.nokia.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id jA1MASCk014102; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 00:10:28 +0200 Received: from daebh101.NOE.Nokia.com ([10.241.35.111]) by esebh108.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 2 Nov 2005 00:14:26 +0200 Received: from mvebe101.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.19.64.23]) by daebh101.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 1 Nov 2005 16:14:24 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7233.31 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Message-ID: <893AE265F4ADF94AB7FB26D31A788E410137BDA1@mvebe101.NOE.Nokia.com> Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Thread-Index: AcXfJ9zPkPXveO54T/+hpvprk759kwAB12rA From: To: Cc: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2005 22:14:24.0992 (UTC) FILETIME=[9E2ABE00:01C5DF31] Sender: capwap-admin@frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 14:14:23 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Dan- The idea to break up the recommendation to progress consensus was suggested to the chairs by the evaluation team. We also have had 11 months of protocol discussion and evaluation, and along with the protocol, several recommendations were made by the team and issues brought up on the list. Without a target upon which to apply these issues, I don't see how we can progress the WG. I don't believe that throwing out the work we have already accomplished in order create a new base protocol will benefit the group, but only create delay. =20 You are free to post issues to the list so they are tracked, discussed and evaluated by the WG. But after 11 months and thorough analysis by the evaluation team and the WG, its time to chose a protocol. -Dorothy =20 -----Original Message----- From: ext Dan Harkins [mailto:dharkins@trpz.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 12:56 PM To: Gellert Dorothy (Nokia-ES/MtView) Cc: capwap@frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol=20 Dorothy, I don't like the idea of breaking things up. One of the reasons is that the recommendations in the document illustrate that the selection of the base protocol was, in my opinion, incorrect. Had the document been "LWAPP with no recommended changes" that would be one thing, but it's "LWAPP minus it's base plus changes that are the base of another protocol that was not selected" and that seems wrong. The messaging of LWAPP appealed to the evaluation team and that's something I can understand. But to then recommend wholesale changes to its foundation-- its tunnelling, what it tunnels, and its security-- is bassackwards. It would've been easier to start with a base protocol that performs tunnelling the way they wanted, and tunnels what they want, and does security in the way they want and to then layer on the messaging they want. So because of this I'm forced to say: NO -- LWAPP should not be used as the basis of a CAPWAP protocol. Dan. On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 23:32:56 PST you wrote > Hi Saravanan- >=20 > We plan to discuss and come to consensus wihtin the WG on each of the=20 > recommendations separately, once the protocol proposed by the=20 > evaluation team is agreed upon by the WG. >=20 > The idea to break up the evaluation team's recommendation into 1)=20 > protocol and 2) recommendations is solely meant to make progress on WG > consensus. If we can agree upon a protocol first, our hope is that=20 > the WG can evaluate the recommendations easier once there is a=20 > protocol in place. >=20 > If you (and others in the WG) are satisfied with this approach, please > indicate your position on the protocol portion of the evaluation by=20 > YES or NO for LWAPP. >=20 > Best Regards, > Dorothy >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: capwap-admin@frascone.com [mailto:capwap-admin@frascone.com] On=20 > Behalf Of ext Saravanan Govindan > Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 9:45 PM > To: capwap@frascone.com > Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP=20 > protocol >=20 > I support a base CAPWAP protocol provided it is flexible enough to be=20 > further developed. I think it is important to make sure the base=20 > protocol is sufficient extensible to cover the recommendations being=20 > proposed. >=20 > Saravanan >=20 >=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: capwap-admin@frascone.com > > [mailto:capwap-admin@frascone.com] On Behalf Of=20 > > Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > > Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 8:13 AM > > To: capwap@frascone.com > > Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com; david.kessens@nokia.com;=20 > > Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > > Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP=20 > > protocol > >=20 > >=20 > > After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft=20 > > completed by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol=20 > > consensus. The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most=20 > > complete proposal and should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP=20 > > protocol going forward. > >=20 > > Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new > > CAPWAP protocol: > > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. > >=20 > > The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that=20 > > should be > > address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. =20 > > These will be > > addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG=20 > > consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the=20 > > Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol,=20 > > and then evaluate each recommendation separately. > >=20 > > Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November > > 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face > > CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. =20 > >=20 > > Best Regards, > > Dorothy and Mani > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > =20 > > _______________________________________________ > > Capwap mailing list > > Capwap@frascone.com > > http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Capwap mailing list > Capwap@frascone.com > http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > _______________________________________________ > Capwap mailing list > Capwap@frascone.com > http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap >=20 _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@frascone.com Wed Nov 02 02:35:10 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EXD9I-0004Hh-LB for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 02 Nov 2005 02:35:10 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA17462 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 02:34:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A32F42034F; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 02:35:03 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from huawei-3com.com (smtp.huawei-3com.com [210.21.230.51]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B80861FC28 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 02:34:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.huawei-3com.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.huawei-3com.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IPB00GAPGTONI@smtp.huawei-3com.com> for capwap@frascone.com; Wed, 02 Nov 2005 15:29:49 +0800 (CST) Received: from huawei-3com.com (ldapb.huawei-3com.com [172.19.1.228]) by smtp.huawei-3com.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IPB00D5ZGTOV8@smtp.huawei-3com.com> for capwap@frascone.com; Wed, 02 Nov 2005 15:29:48 +0800 (CST) Received: from [10.18.1.7] by mail.huawei-3com.com (mshttpd); Wed, 02 Nov 2005 12:31:53 +0500 From: zhaoyujin 00919 Subject: Re:[Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol To: Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Cc: capwap@frascone.com, bwijnen@lucent.com, mmani@avaya.com, david.kessens@nokia.com Message-id: <182c2c17f8d3.17f8d3182c2c@huawei-3com.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: zh-CN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: zh-CN Priority: normal Sender: capwap-admin@frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 12:31:53 +0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol Michael > > After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft > completedby the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol > consensus. The > evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and > should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. > > Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new > CAPWAP protocol: > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. > > The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that > should be > address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These > will be > addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG > consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the > Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and > then evaluate each recommendation separately. > > Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November > 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face > CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. > > Best Regards, > Dorothy and Mani > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Capwap mailing list > Capwap@frascone.com > http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@frascone.com Thu Nov 03 09:56:10 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EXgVe-0003YW-3l for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 03 Nov 2005 09:56:10 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA04975 for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 09:55:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E79204FE; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 09:56:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from mailgw3.ericsson.se (mailgw3.ericsson.se [193.180.251.60]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B491E1FC9D for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 09:55:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from esealmw126.eemea.ericsson.se (unknown [153.88.254.123]) by mailgw3.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 0754DF7F for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 15:55:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from esealmw126.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.254.174]) by esealmw126.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 3 Nov 2005 15:54:43 +0100 Received: from esealmw114.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.200.5]) by esealmw126.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 3 Nov 2005 15:54:43 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Message-ID: <1DA0626BEB4BCF4699FD33B78532C0A92BD6F4@esealmw114.eemea.ericsson.se> Thread-Topic: Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Thread-Index: AcXcHYQVzc3GGtl2TDecup3AXZQLvgEaNSlQ From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bo_Kvarnstr=F6m_=28LI/EAB=29?= To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2005 14:54:43.0825 (UTC) FILETIME=[86979E10:01C5E086] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Sender: capwap-admin@frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 15:54:42 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol regards Bo Kvarnstrom -----Original Message----- From: capwap-admin@frascone.com [mailto:capwap-admin@frascone.com]On Behalf Of Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Sent: den 29 oktober 2005 02:13 To: capwap@frascone.com Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com; david.kessens@nokia.com; Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new CAPWAP protocol:=20 YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and then evaluate each recommendation separately. =20 Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. =20 Best Regards, Dorothy and Mani =20 _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Fri Nov 04 00:09:09 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EXtp7-0001ku-L3 for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 00:09:09 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA22427 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 00:08:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282F9207A7; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 00:09:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from mail.cis.nctu.edu.tw (mail.cis.nctu.edu.tw [140.113.23.5]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C712036A for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 00:08:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cis.nctu.edu.tw (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jA458rJ0043286 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 13:08:53 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from gis91819@cis.nctu.edu.tw) Received: from mail.cis.nctu.edu.tw ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cis.nctu.edu.tw [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 40388-07 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 13:08:53 +0800 (CST) Received: from darkmoon (netlab43.cis.nctu.edu.tw [140.113.167.239]) (authenticated bits=0 as gis91819 with LOGIN) by mail.cis.nctu.edu.tw (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jA458p4Y043236 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 13:08:53 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from gis91819@cis.nctu.edu.tw) Message-ID: <003101c5e0fe$23065620$efa7718c@darkmoon> From: "Jack" To: References: <893AE265F4ADF94AB7FB26D31A788E410131DE9C@mvebe101.NOE.Nokia.com> <4367E49E.4090508@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cis.nctu.edu.tw Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 13:10:55 +0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Absolutly YES! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Behcet Sarikaya" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 5:56 AM Subject: Re: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol > > --behcet > Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com wrote: > >>After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed >>by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The >>evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and >>should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. >> >>Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new >>CAPWAP protocol: >> YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, >> NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. >> >>The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be >>address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be >>addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG >>consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the >>Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and >>then evaluate each recommendation separately. >> >>Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November >>4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face >>CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. >> >>Best Regards, >>Dorothy and Mani >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Capwap mailing list >>Capwap@frascone.com >>http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Capwap mailing list > Capwap@frascone.com > http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Fri Nov 04 08:05:11 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EY1Fl-0005EN-0q for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 08:05:11 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA18145 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 08:04:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E286207AE; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 08:05:03 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from aplesjustice.dom1.jhuapl.edu (APLesJustice.dom1.jhuapl.edu [128.244.198.158]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE71207AA for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 08:04:09 -0500 (EST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Message-ID: <7292F66980B8DB43BD9C4FD4E019F836133E1A@aplesjustice.dom1.jhuapl.edu> Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Thread-Index: AcXcHYQVzc3GGtl2TDecup3AXZQLvgCEB6PwABKuGiAAse3SYA== From: "Burbank, Jack L." To: Cc: , , , Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 08:04:07 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable YES, LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. Regards, Jack Burbank > -----Original Message----- > From: capwap-admin@frascone.com [mailto:capwap-admin@frascone.com] On=20 > Behalf Of Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:13 PM > To: capwap@frascone.com > Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com; david.kessens@nokia.com;=20 > Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol >=20 >=20 > After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft > completed by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol=20 > consensus. The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most=20 > complete proposal and should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP=20 > protocol going forward. >=20 > Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new > CAPWAP protocol: > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. >=20 > The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should > be > address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. =20 > These will be > addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG=20 > consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the=20 > Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and=20 > then evaluate each recommendation separately. >=20 > Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November > 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face > CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. >=20 > Best Regards, > Dorothy and Mani >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 > _______________________________________________ > Capwap mailing list > Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap >=20 _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Fri Nov 04 17:16:16 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EY9r1-0007Tp-E5 for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 17:16:16 -0500 Received: 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(8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA18377 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 17:39:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2F7207D0; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 17:40:03 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from aruba-mx.arubanetworks.com (mail.arubanetworks.com [216.31.249.253]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A380207CD for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 17:39:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from aruba-mx1.arubanetworks.com ([10.1.1.17]) by aruba-mx.arubanetworks.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 4 Nov 2005 14:39:13 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Message-ID: <99C8B9B2AD99664A87E12C839A2E9093010E1683@aruba-mx1.arubanetworks.com> Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Thread-Index: AcXcHYQVzc3GGtl2TDecup3AXZQLvgCEB6PwABKuGiAAse3SYAAT+QJA From: "Randy Chou" To: Cc: , "Avaya - Mani Mahalingam" , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2005 22:39:13.0965 (UTC) FILETIME=[94E73DD0:01C5E190] Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 14:39:13 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. > -----Original Message----- > From: capwap-admin@frascone.com [mailto:capwap-admin@frascone.com] On=20 > Behalf Of Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:13 PM > To: capwap@frascone.com > Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com; david.kessens@nokia.com;=20 > Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol >=20 >=20 > After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft > completed by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol=20 > consensus. The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most=20 > complete proposal and should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP=20 > protocol going forward. >=20 > Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new > CAPWAP protocol: > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. >=20 > The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should > be > address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. =20 > These will be > addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG=20 > consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the=20 > Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and=20 > then evaluate each recommendation separately. >=20 > Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November > 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face > CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. >=20 > Best Regards, > Dorothy and Mani >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 > _______________________________________________ > Capwap mailing list > Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap >=20 _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Fri Nov 04 17:45:09 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EYAJ3-0003Sr-6x for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 17:45:09 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA18631 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 17:44:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45D75207D4; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 17:45:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from swe-server.swe-dish.local (static-66-173-204-35.t1.cavtel.net [66.173.204.35]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20BB5207D0 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 17:44:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from shooter ([68.235.170.51]) by swe-server.swe-dish.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 4 Nov 2005 17:35:27 -0500 From: "Andy Walden" To: , Cc: , , Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcXcHYQVzc3GGtl2TDecup3AXZQLvgFc764Q In-Reply-To: <893AE265F4ADF94AB7FB26D31A788E410131DE9C@mvebe101.NOE.Nokia.com> Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2005 22:35:27.0578 (UTC) FILETIME=[0DF753A0:01C5E190] Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 17:44:43 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. -----Original Message----- From: capwap-admin@frascone.com [mailto:capwap-admin@frascone.com] On Behalf Of Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 8:13 PM To: capwap@frascone.com Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com; david.kessens@nokia.com; Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new CAPWAP protocol: YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and then evaluate each recommendation separately. Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. Best Regards, Dorothy and Mani _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Fri Nov 04 18:43:11 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EYBDB-0006Gf-W8 for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 18:43:11 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA22186 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:42:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E36A8207DE; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:43:03 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.198.43]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4850C207D9 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:42:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from officedesktop (c-24-17-73-185.hsd1.wa.comcast.net[24.17.73.185]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20051104234237014006c5tue>; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 23:42:37 +0000 From: "Don Berry" To: , Cc: , , Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Message-ID: <005301c5e199$6e165390$6501a8c0@officedesktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcXcHYQVzc3GGtl2TDecup3AXZQLvgFe9n9w In-Reply-To: <893AE265F4ADF94AB7FB26D31A788E410131DE9C@mvebe101.NOE.Nokia.com> Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:42:33 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. -----Original Message----- From: capwap-admin@frascone.com [mailto:capwap-admin@frascone.com] On Behalf Of Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:13 PM To: capwap@frascone.com Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com; david.kessens@nokia.com; Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new CAPWAP protocol: YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and then evaluate each recommendation separately. Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. Best Regards, Dorothy and Mani _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Fri Nov 04 19:04:12 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EYBXY-0001RE-Jx for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 19:04:12 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA23160 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 19:03:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7977C207E1; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 19:04:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from aruba-mx.arubanetworks.com 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([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EYBaO-0002ER-HG for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 19:07:08 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA23321 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 19:06:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF56D207E4; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 19:07:03 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from pop-altamira.atl.sa.earthlink.net (pop-altamira.atl.sa.earthlink.net [207.69.195.62]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5BE9207E1 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 19:06:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.224.42]) by pop-altamira.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1EYBZV-0005Pe-00 for capwap@frascone.com; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 19:06:13 -0500 Message-ID: <29334679.1131149173621.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> From: "Scott G. Kelly" Reply-To: "Scott G. Kelly" To: capwap@frascone.com Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 16:06:13 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. -----Original Message----- From: capwap-admin@frascone.com [mailto:capwap-admin@frascone.com] On Behalf Of Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:13 PM To: capwap@frascone.com Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com; david.kessens@nokia.com; Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new CAPWAP protocol: YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and then evaluate each recommendation separately. Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. Best Regards, Dorothy and Mani _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Fri Nov 04 20:51:10 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EYDD4-0003zx-AB for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 20:51:10 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA28122 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 20:50:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F7E207E5; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 20:51:03 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1-in.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B621207D4 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 17:51:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 04 Nov 2005 14:51:49 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,293,1125903600"; d="scan'208,217"; a="672067604:sNHT32972982" Received: from xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-231.cisco.com [128.107.191.100]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id jA4MpDRG027512; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 14:51:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.85]) by xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 4 Nov 2005 14:51:44 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5E192.54322299" Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Message-ID: <75D9B5F4E50C8B4BB27622BD06C2B82BC969B7@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> Thread-Topic: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Thread-Index: AcXhklPZUzn9pRwHSpK5wYhL1H9WJQ== From: "Tim Olson (tolson)" To: Cc: , , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2005 22:51:44.0810 (UTC) FILETIME=[547118A0:01C5E192] Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 14:51:43 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5E192.54322299 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, LWAPP should be the basis for the CAPWAP protocol ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5E192.54322299 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes, LWAPP should be the basis for the CAPWAP=20 protocol

------_=_NextPart_001_01C5E192.54322299-- _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Fri Nov 04 20:51:16 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EYDD9-000426-TB for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 20:51:15 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA28125 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 20:50:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C613207EA; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 20:51:06 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from sj-iport-2.cisco.com (sj-iport-2-in.cisco.com [171.71.176.71]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FE04207D9 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:38:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 04 Nov 2005 15:38:06 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-211.cisco.com [171.70.151.144]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id jA4NbURK020246; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:38:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from xmb-sjc-222.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.106]) by xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:38:03 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5E198.CC268561" Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: yes Thread-Topic: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Thread-Index: AcXhmMqRpe+3GbsATeu6T8656Bnh5Q== From: "Dave Stephenson (daves)" To: Cc: , , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2005 23:38:03.0131 (UTC) FILETIME=[CC733CB0:01C5E198] Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:38:00 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5E198.CC268561 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_002_01C5E198.CC268561" ------_=_NextPart_002_01C5E198.CC268561 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Yes, LWAPP should be the basis for the CAPWAP protocol. =20 Best Regards, Dave Stephenson =20 _______________________________________ Dave Stephenson WNBU, VoWLAN Engineering Manager =20 ------_=_NextPart_002_01C5E198.CC268561 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new CAPWAP protocol:=20 YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and then evaluate each recommendation separately. =20 Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. =20 Best Regards, Dorothy and Mani =20 _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Fri Nov 04 21:49:09 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EYE7A-0002Pq-R5 for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 21:49:08 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA03553 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 21:48:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DCFE207ED; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 21:49:03 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from sj-iport-3.cisco.com (sj-iport-3-in.cisco.com [171.71.176.72]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0843207EB for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 21:48:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 04 Nov 2005 18:48:37 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,293,1125903600"; d="scan'208"; a="361122640:sNHT25403664" Received: from xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-221.cisco.com [128.107.191.63]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id jA52mNP3028637; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:48:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from xmb-sjc-224.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.98]) by xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:48:28 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Message-ID: <28CEA477BE98ED48AF08A0B637A74BF4D6FC19@xmb-sjc-224.amer.cisco.com> Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Thread-Index: AcXcHYQVzc3GGtl2TDecup3AXZQLvgFlc1tg From: "Gopal Dommety (gdommety)" To: , Cc: , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2005 02:48:28.0076 (UTC) FILETIME=[663F7EC0:01C5E1B3] Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:48:27 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol=20 Regards, Gopal Dommety, Ph.D Cisco Systems =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: capwap-admin@frascone.com=20 > [mailto:capwap-admin@frascone.com] On Behalf Of=20 > Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:13 PM > To: capwap@frascone.com > Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com;=20 > david.kessens@nokia.com; Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol >=20 >=20 > After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft=20 > completed by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the=20 > protocol consensus. The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP=20 > is the most complete proposal and should be used as the basis=20 > for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. >=20 > Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as=20 > the new CAPWAP protocol:=20 > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. >=20 > The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation=20 > that should be > address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. =20 > These will be > addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves=20 > WG consensus. In order to progress the work, we are=20 > separating the Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree=20 > first on the protcol, and then evaluate each recommendation=20 > separately. =20 >=20 > Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November > 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face > CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. =20 >=20 > Best Regards, > Dorothy and Mani >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 > _______________________________________________ > Capwap mailing list > Capwap@frascone.com > http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap >=20 _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Fri Nov 04 23:37:10 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EYFnh-0003q9-Ri for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 23:37:10 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA07374 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 23:36:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B07207F0; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 23:37:03 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from oz.twisted.net (oz.twisted.net [69.211.34.241]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99AB7207E8 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 23:36:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oz.twisted.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E58599C8A; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 22:36:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from oz.twisted.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (oz.twisted.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 71710-05; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 22:36:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from noodle (sindrome.twisted.net [172.16.0.5]) by oz.twisted.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D65D599C6B; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 22:36:21 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: From: "Troy Dixler" To: , Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Thread-Index: AcXcHYQVzc3GGtl2TDecup3AXZQLvgFlc1tgAAQCDJA= In-Reply-To: <28CEA477BE98ED48AF08A0B637A74BF4D6FC19@xmb-sjc-224.amer.cisco.com> Message-Id: <20051105043621.2D65D599C6B@oz.twisted.net> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at twisted.net Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 22:43:05 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol due to the IPR issues. > -----Original Message----- > From: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com [mailto:capwap- > admin@lists.frascone.com] On Behalf Of Gopal Dommety (gdommety) > Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 8:48 PM > To: Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com; capwap@frascone.com > Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com; david.kessens@nokia.com > Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol > > > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol > > Regards, > Gopal Dommety, Ph.D > Cisco Systems > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: capwap-admin@frascone.com > > [mailto:capwap-admin@frascone.com] On Behalf Of > > Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:13 PM > > To: capwap@frascone.com > > Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com; > > david.kessens@nokia.com; Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > > Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol > > > > > > After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft > > completed by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the > > protocol consensus. The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP > > is the most complete proposal and should be used as the basis > > for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. > > > > Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as > > the new CAPWAP protocol: > > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. > > > > The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation > > that should be > > address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. > > These will be > > addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves > > WG consensus. In order to progress the work, we are > > separating the Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree > > first on the protcol, and then evaluate each recommendation > > separately. > > > > Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November > > 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face > > CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. > > > > Best Regards, > > Dorothy and Mani > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Capwap mailing list > > Capwap@frascone.com > > http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > > _______________________________________________ > Capwap mailing list > Capwap@lists.frascone.com > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Sat Nov 05 00:33:09 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EYGft-0005QZ-4h for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 00:33:09 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA10672 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 00:32:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B377207F2; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 00:33:03 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from aruba-mx.arubanetworks.com (mail.arubanetworks.com [216.31.249.253]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8ED0F207EE for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 00:32:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from aruba-mx1.arubanetworks.com ([10.1.1.17]) by aruba-mx.arubanetworks.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 4 Nov 2005 21:32:39 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Message-ID: <99C8B9B2AD99664A87E12C839A2E90930F6097@aruba-mx1.arubanetworks.com> Thread-Topic: Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Thread-Index: AcXcHYQVzc3GGtl2TDecup3AXZQLvgFrHWFq From: "Subbu Ponnuswamy" To: , Cc: , "Avaya - Mani Mahalingam" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2005 05:32:39.0626 (UTC) FILETIME=[563ABAA0:01C5E1CA] Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 21:30:04 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. --Subbu -----Original Message----- From: capwap-admin@frascone.com on behalf of Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Sent: Fri 10/28/2005 5:12 PM To: capwap@frascone.com Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; Avaya - Mani Mahalingam; = david.kessens@nokia.com; Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol =20 After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new CAPWAP protocol:=20 YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and then evaluate each recommendation separately. =20 Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. =20 Best Regards, Dorothy and Mani =20 _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Sat Nov 05 11:41:12 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EYR6L-0006yn-Ne for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 11:41:12 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA08828 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 11:40:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D9F2034D; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 11:41:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from eq1.spamarrest.com (eq1.spamarrest.com [66.150.163.134]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C511FC28 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 11:40:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.10.3.32] (unknown [201.134.153.146]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by eq1.spamarrest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 251711CC3E1; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:35:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <436CE062.7070901@atelophobia.net> From: Luiz Eduardo User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com, capwap@frascone.com, bwijnen@lucent.com, mmani@avaya.com, david.kessens@nokia.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 08:40:02 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: capwap-admin@frascone.com [mailto:capwap-admin@frascone.com] On Behalf >Of Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com >Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 8:13 PM >To: capwap@frascone.com >Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com; david.kessens@nokia.com; >Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com >Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol > > >After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed by >the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The >evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and >should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. > >Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new CAPWAP >protocol: > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. > >The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be >address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be >addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG consensus. >In order to progress the work, we are separating the Evaluation's team >proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and then evaluate each >recommendation separately. > >Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November >4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face >CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. > >Best Regards, >Dorothy and Mani > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Capwap mailing list >Capwap@frascone.com >http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > >_______________________________________________ >Capwap mailing list >Capwap@lists.frascone.com >http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > > > > _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Sun Nov 06 23:23:11 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EYyXH-00078L-0J for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 23:23:11 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA12291 for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 23:22:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B2A72027E; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 23:23:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from orsfmr003.jf.intel.com (fmr18.intel.com [134.134.136.17]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05EDE1FE89 for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 23:22:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from orsfmr100.jf.intel.com (orsfmr100.jf.intel.com [10.7.209.16]) by orsfmr003.jf.intel.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/d: major-outer.mc,v 1.1 2004/09/17 17:50:56 root Exp $) with ESMTP id jA74MVHO024861; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 04:22:31 GMT Received: from orsmsxvs040.jf.intel.com (orsmsxvs040.jf.intel.com [192.168.65.206]) by orsfmr100.jf.intel.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/d: major-inner.mc,v 1.2 2004/09/17 18:05:01 root Exp $) with SMTP id jA74MRvj029053; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 04:22:29 GMT Received: from orsmsx332.amr.corp.intel.com ([192.168.65.60]) by orsmsxvs040.jf.intel.com (SAVSMTP 3.1.7.47) with SMTP id M2005110620222725367 ; Sun, 06 Nov 2005 20:22:27 -0800 Received: from orsmsx404.amr.corp.intel.com ([192.168.65.44]) by orsmsx332.amr.corp.intel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sun, 6 Nov 2005 20:22:27 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Message-ID: <0604335B7764D141945E2021531059600638C399@orsmsx404.amr.corp.intel.com> Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol thread-index: AcXiJ71QbZNKQf9kSOaf6Uy5A3MzAwBKvtTg From: "Sood, Kapil" To: , , , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2005 04:22:27.0128 (UTC) FILETIME=[DC360B80:01C5E352] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 10.7.209.16 Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 20:22:26 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol Best Regards, =20 Kapil. 503.264.3759 > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: capwap-admin@frascone.com [mailto:capwap-admin@frascone.com] On Behalf > >Of Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > >Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 8:13 PM > >To: capwap@frascone.com > >Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com; david.kessens@nokia.com; > >Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > >Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol > > > > > >After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed by > >the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The > >evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and > >should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. > > > >Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new CAPWAP > >protocol: > > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. > > > >The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be > >address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be > >addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG consensus. > >In order to progress the work, we are separating the Evaluation's team > >proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and then evaluate each > >recommendation separately. > > > >Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November > >4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face > >CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. > > > >Best Regards, > >Dorothy and Mani > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Capwap mailing list > >Capwap@frascone.com > >http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Capwap mailing list > >Capwap@lists.frascone.com > >http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Capwap mailing list > Capwap@lists.frascone.com > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Mon Nov 07 01:16:10 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EZ0Ic-0001fu-Gq for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 01:16:10 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA16791 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 01:15:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C4420475; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 01:16:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from maili.marvell.com (host2.marvell.com [65.219.4.2]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF5CB1FE89 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 01:15:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from MSI-MTA.marvell.com (msi-mta.marvell.com [10.68.76.91]) by maili.marvell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965D61D264 for ; Sun, 6 Nov 2005 22:15:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from msiexch01.marvell.com ([10.68.76.102]) by MSI-MTA.marvell.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 6 Nov 2005 22:15:51 -0800 Received: from 10.68.76.103 ([10.68.76.103]) by msiexch01.marvell.com ([10.68.76.102]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 06:15:51 +0000 From: "Nafea Bshara" To: Message-ID: <058301c5e362$b3cf2e6d$674c440a@marvell.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol MIME-Version: 1.0 Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Thread-Index: AcXiJ71QbZNKQf9kSOaf6Uy5A3MzAwBKvtTgAAP+y7k= x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2005 06:15:51.0496 (UTC) FILETIME=[B3EE3480:01C5E362] Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 22:19:17 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol -----Original Message----- From: "Sood, Kapil" Sent: 11/6/2005 8:23:14 PM To: "Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com", = "capwap@frascone.com", = "bwijnen@lucent.com", = "mmani@avaya.com", = "david.kessens@nokia.com" Cc:=20 Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol Best Regards, =20 Kapil. 503.264.3759 > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: capwap-admin@frascone.com [mailto:capwap-admin@frascone.com] On Behalf > >Of Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > >Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 8:13 PM > >To: capwap@frascone.com > >Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com; david.kessens@nokia.com; > >Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > >Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol > > > > > >After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed by > >the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The > >evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and > >should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. > > > >Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new CAPWAP > >protocol: > > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. > > > >The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be > >address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be > >addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG consensus. > >In order to progress the work, we are separating the Evaluation's team > >proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and then evaluate each > >recommendation separately. > > > >Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November > >4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face > >CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. > > > >Best Regards, > >Dorothy and Mani > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Capwap mailing list > >Capwap@frascone.com > >http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Capwap mailing list > >Capwap@lists.frascone.com > >http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Capwap mailing list > Capwap@lists.frascone.com > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Mon Nov 07 14:09:11 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EZCMh-0001Wa-5X for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 14:09:11 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA00979 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 14:08:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C43B20800; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 14:09:05 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from il.marvell.com (shoshil.marvell.com [199.203.130.250]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42FAF20428 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 14:08:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from msilexch01.marvell.com (msilexch01.il.marvell.com [10.4.5.104]) by il.marvell.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jA7J82wt005286 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 22:08:06 +0300 (IST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Thread-Index: AcXiJ71QbZNKQf9kSOaf6Uy5A3MzAwBKvtTgAAP+y7kAGugpsA== From: "David Melman" To: Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 21:08:01 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. David > >-----Original Message----- > >From: capwap-admin@frascone.com [mailto:capwap-admin@frascone.com] On Behalf > >Of Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > >Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 8:13 PM > >To: capwap@frascone.com > >Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com; david.kessens@nokia.com;=20 > >Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > >Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol > > > > > >After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed by > >the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The > >evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and > >should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. > > > >Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new CAPWAP > >protocol: > > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. > > > >The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be > >address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be > >addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG consensus. > >In order to progress the work, we are separating the Evaluation's team > >proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and then evaluate each > >recommendation separately. > > > >Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November > >4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face > >CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. > > > >Best Regards, > >Dorothy and Mani > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Capwap mailing list > >Capwap@frascone.com > >http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Capwap mailing list > >Capwap@lists.frascone.com > >http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Capwap mailing list > Capwap@lists.frascone.com > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Mon Nov 07 15:20:21 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EZDTZ-0004sJ-7p for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 15:20:21 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA05251 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 15:19:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED1920806; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 15:20:05 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from tiere.net.avaya.com (tiere.net.avaya.com [198.152.12.100]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B37F206C8 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 15:19:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from tiere.net.avaya.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiere.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id jA7KG153024552 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 15:16:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from cof110avexu1.global.avaya.com (h135-9-6-16.avaya.com [135.9.6.16]) by tiere.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id jA7JKY4P029630 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 14:21:26 -0500 (EST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5E3D0.ABDFAF16" Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Can you please post this response to the group Thread-Index: AcXjzP/Ov8dmPpP8TZGMK9nANG2tlwAA5Wkw From: "Mani, Mahalingam (Mahalingam)" To: Subject: [Capwap] FW: Can you please post this response to the group Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 12:23:02 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5E3D0.ABDFAF16 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From Susan Hares... =20 -mani =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D _____ =20 From: Susan Hares [mailto:skh@nexthop.com]=20 Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:15 AM To: Mani, Mahalingam (Mahalingam) Cc: dorothy.gellert@nokia.com Subject: Can you please post this response to the group =20 Mani and Dorothy: =20 Somehow the CAPWAP mail has determined that I'm a non-member. Can you please forward this to the mail group? =20 Vote: =20 Yes: LWAPP should be the CAPWAP protocol. =20 Sue ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5E3D0.ABDFAF16 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

From Susan = Hares…

 

-mani

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<= o:p>

From: Susan = Hares [mailto:skh@nexthop.com]
Sent: Monday, November = 07, 2005 11:15 AM
To: Mani, Mahalingam (Mahalingam)
Cc: = dorothy.gellert@nokia.com
Subject: Can you please = post this response to the group

 

Mani and Dorothy:

 

Somehow the CAPWAP mail has determined that I’m = a non-member.  Can you please forward this to the mail = group?

 

Vote:

 

Yes: LWAPP should be the CAPWAP = protocol.

 

Sue

------_=_NextPart_001_01C5E3D0.ABDFAF16-- _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Mon Nov 07 15:39:08 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EZDlk-0001A6-QT for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 15:39:08 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA06239 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 15:38:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E191D2080A; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 15:39:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@lists.frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@lists.frascone.com Received: from twoface.cisco.frascone.com (sj-natpool-220.cisco.com [128.107.248.220]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922A5206EB for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 15:38:42 -0500 (EST) From: David Frascone To: capwap@lists.frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] FW: Can you please post this response to the group Message-ID: <20051107143841.38d10cf5@twoface.cisco.frascone.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.4a (GTK+ 1.2.10; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) X-Face: BZe8R&S)}GEDsLp@ay#IT{'D/X6}Xu/])^zA7D2W{)kwVA7)IhgW*{QSX6W(\BWhSON`p7% e3xQ1oJ=Qb@cQf#x[_Qas)'1f0;9DQJ>02}F_!.`'y>LE~`8e'{XO=fNX{n#\1:s:`Xy Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 14:38:41 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit She's subscribed as shares@nexthop.com, not skh@nexthop.com. I have added skh@nexthop.com as an address that does not receive mail, so she can now post from either address. Please have her re-send her vote. With such a policital vote like this, I'd rather not start mail forwarding. -Dave On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 12:23:02 -0700 "Mani, Mahalingam (Mahalingam)" wrote: >From Susan Hares... > > > >-mani > >====== > > _____ > >From: Susan Hares [mailto:skh@nexthop.com] >Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:15 AM >To: Mani, Mahalingam (Mahalingam) >Cc: dorothy.gellert@nokia.com >Subject: Can you please post this response to the group > > > >Mani and Dorothy: > > > >Somehow the CAPWAP mail has determined that I'm a non-member. Can you >please forward this to the mail group? > > > >Vote: > > > >Yes: LWAPP should be the CAPWAP protocol. > > > >Sue > -- David Frascone Polls show that 9 out of 6 schizophrenics agree. _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Mon Nov 07 15:43:10 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EZDpe-0001YK-34 for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 15:43:10 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA06411 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 15:42:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989412080C; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 15:43:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@lists.frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@lists.frascone.com Received: from twoface.cisco.frascone.com (sj-natpool-220.cisco.com [128.107.248.220]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6622080A for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 15:42:03 -0500 (EST) From: David Frascone To: capwap@lists.frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] FW: Can you please post this response to the group Message-ID: <20051107144202.606134f7@twoface.cisco.frascone.com> In-Reply-To: <20051107143841.38d10cf5@twoface.cisco.frascone.com> References: <20051107143841.38d10cf5@twoface.cisco.frascone.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.4a (GTK+ 1.2.10; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) X-Face: BZe8R&S)}GEDsLp@ay#IT{'D/X6}Xu/])^zA7D2W{)kwVA7)IhgW*{QSX6W(\BWhSON`p7% e3xQ1oJ=Qb@cQf#x[_Qas)'1f0;9DQJ>02}F_!.`'y>LE~`8e'{XO=fNX{n#\1:s:`Xy Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 14:42:02 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oops . . . obviously didn't mean that to be public . . . sorry. -Dave On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 14:38:41 -0600 David Frascone wrote: > > >-- > >David Frascone > > Polls show that 9 out of 6 schizophrenics agree. >_______________________________________________ >Capwap mailing list >Capwap@lists.frascone.com >http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > -- David Frascone If you can't debug it, deplug it. _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Mon Nov 07 15:56:10 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EZE2E-00056j-0w for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 15:56:10 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA07128 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 15:55:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A5720806; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 15:56:05 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@lists.frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@lists.frascone.com Received: from vms042pub.verizon.net (vms042pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.42]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E56B2206E4 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 15:55:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from Matt-Holdrege2.verizon.net ([81.51.11.90]) by vms042.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 (built Sep 9 2005)) with ESMTPA id <0IPL000BHRG4YGP1@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> for capwap@lists.frascone.com; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 14:55:18 -0600 (CST) From: Matt Holdrege Subject: Re: [Capwap] FW: Can you please post this response to the group In-reply-to: <20051107144202.606134f7@twoface.cisco.frascone.com> X-Sender: res06gzk@incoming.verizon.net To: capwap@lists.frascone.com Message-id: <6.0.3.0.2.20051107215337.02fd6620@incoming.verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.3.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed References: <20051107143841.38d10cf5@twoface.cisco.frascone.com> <20051107144202.606134f7@twoface.cisco.frascone.com> Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:55:16 +0100 Wow, when the guy who runs the list forgets that he's posting to the list, things are getting a bit stressful. I vote for common sense. Ooops. I guess I wasted my vote. -Matt At 09:42 PM 11/7/2005, David Frascone wrote: >Oops . . . obviously didn't mean that to be public . . . sorry. > >-Dave _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Mon Nov 07 16:43:09 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EZElh-000766-GK for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 16:43:09 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA09650 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 16:42:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC6CA2080F; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 16:43:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@lists.frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@lists.frascone.com Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DD21206EB for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 16:42:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from 204.127.205.142 (smailcenter67.comcast.net[204.127.205.167]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2005110721314901200mq333e>; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 21:31:53 +0000 Received: from [64.119.152.125] by 204.127.205.142; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:31:48 +0000 From: finn.e@comcast.net To: capwap@lists.frascone.com Message-Id: <110720052131.6586.436FC7C400079BA2000019BA22070215730AD202020700@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Dec 17 2004) X-Authenticated-Sender: Zmlubi5lQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_6586_1131399108_0" Subject: [Capwap] RE: [Capwap} Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:31:48 +0000 --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_6586_1131399108_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_6586_1131399108_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol.
--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_6586_1131399108_0-- _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Mon Nov 07 17:21:11 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EZFMV-0007Ts-2s for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 17:21:11 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA11759 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 17:20:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A880820812; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 17:21:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from MMS3.broadcom.com (mms3.broadcom.com [216.31.210.19]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B7A4206FA for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 17:19:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from 10.10.64.121 by MMS3.broadcom.com with SMTP (Broadcom SMTP Relay (Email Firewall v6.2.0)); Mon, 07 Nov 2005 14:19:48 -0800 X-Server-Uuid: B238DE4C-2139-4D32-96A8-DD564EF2313E Received: from mail-irva-8.broadcom.com ([10.10.64.221]) by mail-irva-1.broadcom.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-72233U7200L2200S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 14:19:45 -0800 Received: from mon-irva-10.broadcom.com (mon-irva-10.broadcom.com [10.10.64.171]) by mail-irva-8.broadcom.com (MOS 3.5.6-GR) with ESMTP id CEK06305; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 14:19:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from nt-sjca-0740.brcm.ad.broadcom.com ( nt-sjca-0740.sj.broadcom.com [10.16.192.49]) by mon-irva-10.broadcom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA05587 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 14:19:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from NT-SJCA-0751.brcm.ad.broadcom.com ([10.16.192.221]) by nt-sjca-0740.brcm.ad.broadcom.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 7 Nov 2005 14:19:34 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Message-ID: <2A35A0EE4185544EBD0966C40AEB5C09117C72@NT-SJCA-0751.brcm.ad.broadcom.com> Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Thread-Index: AcXcHYQVzc3GGtl2TDecup3AXZQLvgHy3W0w From: "Yong Kim" To: capwap@frascone.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2005 22:19:34.0414 (UTC) FILETIME=[55134AE0:01C5E3E9] X-WSS-ID: 6F710C8E3807013145-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 14:19:39 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol, IF and ONLY IF IPR pool, if any, is reasonablly dealt with, so that open standard would be meaningfully developed. -----Original Message----- From: capwap-admin@frascone.com [mailto:capwap-admin@frascone.com] On Behalf Of Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:13 PM To: capwap@frascone.com Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com; david.kessens@nokia.com; Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new CAPWAP protocol:=20 YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and then evaluate each recommendation separately. =20 Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. =20 Best Regards, Dorothy and Mani =20 _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Mon Nov 07 17:42:09 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EZFgn-0004uy-6S for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 17:42:09 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA13931 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 17:41:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69EEC20814; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 17:42:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@lists.frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@lists.frascone.com Received: from enterprise58.opnet.com (enterprise58.opnet.com [192.104.65.21]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31573206FA for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 17:41:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mpdomain (netscreen3020.opnet.com [172.16.1.39]) by enterprise58.opnet.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id jA7MatYH012824 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 17:36:55 -0500 Message-ID: <00c701c5e3ec$55a60da0$e80e10ac@opnet.com> From: "Kevin Purser" To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-OPNET-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: kpurser@opnet.com Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 17:40:56 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. Kev Kevin Purser kpurser@opnet.com Tel: 1-240-497-3313 x2651 _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Mon Nov 07 22:31:10 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EZKCU-00084K-H2 for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 22:31:10 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA06298 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 22:30:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50A1420775; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 22:31:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from typhoon.trangosoft.com (unknown [209.82.51.154]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E880820771 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 22:30:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from phantom-out.trangosoft.com ([136.157.233.22]) by 136.157.233.32 with trend_isnt_name_B; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 22:32:04 -0500 Received: from troll3.trangosoft.com (troll3.trangosoft.com [136.157.233.13]) by phantom-out.trangosoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3242F25001; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 22:24:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by troll3.trangosoft.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4DWMP86C>; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 22:24:26 -0500 Message-ID: <1652EBA28502ED4393B9BC9B8A4B6013402F1B@mism121a.toronto.chantrynetworks.com> From: Michael Montemurro To: Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com, capwap@frascone.com Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com, mmani@avaya.com, david.kessens@nokia.com Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 22:30:37 -0500 YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol Now can we finally get down to resolving issues with the draft and get his protocol done? Thanks, Mike _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Mon Nov 07 23:41:10 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EZLIE-0003GP-EI for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 23:41:10 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA09536 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 23:40:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725BC20817; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 23:41:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@lists.frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@lists.frascone.com Received: from sinett.com (63-197-255-158.ded.pacbell.net [63.197.255.158]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD07B2076E for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 23:40:04 -0500 (EST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.6944.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Thread-Index: AcXj7H03fCtXCo5dRlifXq5PibhvXgAMjzMg From: "Sachin Rao" To: Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 20:42:37 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. [<>] Sachin sachin@sinett.com _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Tue Nov 08 09:02:10 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EZU38-0005wy-JN for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 09:02:10 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA07529 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 09:01:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D428C20822; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 09:02:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from wbapiron02.worldbank.org (wbapiron02.worldbank.org [192.86.98.58]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4582081F for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 09:01:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from wbln0014.worldbank.org ([138.220.29.7]) by wbapiron02.worldbank.org with ESMTP; 08 Nov 2005 09:01:08 -0500 X-SBRS: None X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,304,1125892800"; d="scan'208"; a="54072216:sNHT30571760" To: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.2 June 01, 2004 Message-ID: From: Laustin@worldbank.org X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on WBLN0014/Facility/World Bank(Release 6.5.3FP1|December 15, 2004) at 11/08/2005 09:01:08 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [Capwap] Poll For LWAPP as the Basis for the CAPWAP Protocol Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 09:00:53 -0500 YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. Larry W Austin Sr Information Offficer The World Bank _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Tue Nov 08 16:51:12 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EZbN2-00032J-Dd for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 16:51:12 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA08189 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 16:50:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0434A1FDC1; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 16:51:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from mms1.broadcom.com (mms1.broadcom.com [216.31.210.17]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CA2C1FC9D for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 16:50:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from 10.10.64.121 by mms1.broadcom.com with SMTP (Broadcom SMTP Relay (Email Firewall v6.2.0)); Tue, 08 Nov 2005 13:50:23 -0800 X-Server-Uuid: F962EFE0-448C-40EE-8100-87DF498ED0EA Received: from mail-irva-8.broadcom.com ([10.10.64.221]) by mail-irva-1.broadcom.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-72233U7200L2200S0V35) with ESMTP id com; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 13:50:21 -0800 Received: from mon-irva-10.broadcom.com (mon-irva-10.broadcom.com [10.10.64.171]) by mail-irva-8.broadcom.com (MOS 3.5.6-GR) with ESMTP id CEP05882; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 13:50:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from nt-sjca-0740.brcm.ad.broadcom.com ( nt-sjca-0740.sj.broadcom.com [10.16.192.49]) by mon-irva-10.broadcom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA18752; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 13:50:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from NT-SJCA-0751.brcm.ad.broadcom.com ([10.16.192.221]) by nt-sjca-0740.brcm.ad.broadcom.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 8 Nov 2005 13:50:13 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Message-ID: <8954613CA6BB3242A1531D916A527A411147BA@NT-SJCA-0751.brcm.ad.broadcom.com> Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Thread-Index: AcXcHYQVzc3GGtl2TDecup3AXZQLvgIkMonQ From: "Puneet Agarwal" To: Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com, capwap@frascone.com Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com, mmani@avaya.com, david.kessens@nokia.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2005 21:50:13.0876 (UTC) FILETIME=[66204340:01C5E4AE] X-WSS-ID: 6F6FC21537W8079158-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 13:50:18 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. -Puneet=20 -----Original Message----- From: capwap-admin@frascone.com [mailto:capwap-admin@frascone.com] On Behalf Of Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:13 PM To: capwap@frascone.com Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com; david.kessens@nokia.com; Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new CAPWAP protocol:=20 YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and then evaluate each recommendation separately. =20 Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. =20 Best Regards, Dorothy and Mani =20 _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Tue Nov 08 18:15:13 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EZcgJ-0005ah-Hq for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 18:15:13 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA12729 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 18:14:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9574F1FDC9; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 18:15:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from gateout02.mbox.net (gateout02.mbox.net [165.212.64.22]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B761FDBA for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 18:14:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from gateout02.mbox.net (gateout02.mbox.net [165.212.64.22]) by gateout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2178B16392F; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 23:14:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gateout02.mbox.net [127.0.0.1] by gateout02.mbox.net via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.27E) with ESMTP id 125JkHXo20058Mo2; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 23:14:54 GMT Received: from gateout02.mbox.net [127.0.0.1] by gateout02.mbox.net via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.27E) with ESMTP id 124JkHXoz0135Mo2; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 23:14:51 GMT X-USANET-Routed: 2 gwsout-vs R:localhost:1825 Received: from gw4.EXCHPROD.USA.NET [165.212.116.254] by gateout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.27I); Tue, 08 Nov 2005 23:14:51 GMT X-USANET-Source: 165.212.116.254 IN bhandaru@nexthop.com gw4.EXCHPROD.USA.NET X-USANET-MsgId: XID516JkHXoz9272Xo2 Received: from VS4.EXCHPROD.USA.NET ([10.116.208.141]) by gw4.EXCHPROD.USA.NET with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 8 Nov 2005 16:14:51 -0700 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7232.53 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Message-ID: <7ADC90A5E95BA74DA5CA5A6C390D530501F196FB@VS4.EXCHPROD.USA.NET> Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Thread-Index: AcXcHYQVzc3GGtl2TDecup3AXZQLvgIkMonQAALu7oA= From: "Nehru Bhandaru" To: , Cc: , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2005 23:14:51.0275 (UTC) FILETIME=[387DDDB0:01C5E4BA] Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 16:14:46 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable YES - LWAPP should be the basis for the CAPWAP protocol. - Nehru -----Original Message----- From: capwap-admin@frascone.com [mailto:capwap-admin@frascone.com] On Behalf Of Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:13 PM To: capwap@frascone.com Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com; david.kessens@nokia.com; Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new CAPWAP protocol:=20 YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and then evaluate each recommendation separately. =20 Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. =20 Best Regards, Dorothy and Mani =20 _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Tue Nov 08 18:28:11 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EZcst-0008RK-Bs for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 18:28:11 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA13396 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 18:27:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34CEE1FDCE; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 18:28:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from sj-iport-4.cisco.com (sj-iport-4.cisco.com [171.68.10.86]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B9A1FDC9 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 18:27:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com ([171.68.223.137]) by sj-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 08 Nov 2005 15:27:54 -0800 Received: from xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-rtp-211.cisco.com [64.102.31.102]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id jA8NRoZd001579; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 15:27:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from xmb-rtp-212.amer.cisco.com ([64.102.31.111]) by xbh-rtp-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 8 Nov 2005 18:27:50 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Message-ID: <9958B444368E884DBB215F3FEF36F5B7012B5B9E@xmb-rtp-212.amer.cisco.com> Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Thread-Index: AcXcHYQVzc3GGtl2TDecup3AXZQLvgIkMonQAALu7oAAAHnCgA== From: "Hao Zhou (hzhou)" To: , Cc: , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2005 23:27:50.0547 (UTC) FILETIME=[08F95630:01C5E4BC] Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 18:27:48 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable YES - LWAPP should be the basis for the CAPWAP protocol. > -----Original Message----- > From: capwap-admin@frascone.com=20 > [mailto:capwap-admin@frascone.com] On Behalf Of=20 > Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:13 PM > To: capwap@frascone.com > Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com;=20 > david.kessens@nokia.com; Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol >=20 >=20 > After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft=20 > completed by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the=20 > protocol consensus. The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP=20 > is the most complete proposal and should be used as the basis=20 > for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. >=20 > Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as=20 > the new CAPWAP protocol:=20 > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. >=20 > The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation=20 > that should be > address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. =20 > These will be > addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves=20 > WG consensus. In order to progress the work, we are=20 > separating the Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree=20 > first on the protcol, and then evaluate each recommendation=20 > separately. =20 >=20 > Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November > 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face > CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. =20 >=20 > Best Regards, > Dorothy and Mani >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 > _______________________________________________ > Capwap mailing list > Capwap@frascone.com > http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Capwap mailing list > Capwap@lists.frascone.com > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Capwap mailing list > Capwap@lists.frascone.com > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap >=20 _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Tue Nov 08 19:20:20 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EZdhM-0003nF-3e for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 19:20:20 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id TAA23564 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 19:19:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 089141FDD7; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 19:20:06 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from tierw.net.avaya.com (tierw.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD65B1FDD4 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 19:19:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from tierw.net.avaya.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tierw.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id jA904vC3018826 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 19:04:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from cof110avexu1.global.avaya.com (h135-9-6-16.avaya.com [135.9.6.16]) by tierw.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id jA904DC3017990 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 19:04:25 -0500 (EST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5E4C3.05DDB4B7" Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Access to IEEE drafts. Thread-Index: AcXkwwNULNCaSj69RSamd20ytNwdRg== X-Priority: 1 Priority: Urgent Importance: high From: "Mani, Mahalingam (Mahalingam)" To: Subject: [Capwap] Access to IEEE drafts. Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 17:17:51 -0700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5E4C3.05DDB4B7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In the IETF CAPWAP session yesterday IEEE802.11 WLAN liaison to IETF Dorothy Stanley presented on IEEE 802.11 task group status and touched upon task groups standardization work That is of potential interest to the WG (Dorothy's presentation will be posted in https://onsite.ietf.org/public/meeting_materials.cgi?meeting_num=3D64). =20 Specifically - mention of 802.11k, 802.11v, 802.11r work came up. (Currently Draft standard specifications of ongoing work is usually not available to non-members of IEEE802.11 standards. However, Considering potential CAPWAP impact IEEE802.11 is willing to kindly make it available to the WG on an as-needed basis. =20 Per the agreed arrangement with IEEE802.11 liaison (Dorothy Stanley): Those who do not and wish to have access to the draft versions may email me (mmani@avaya.com) directly and I will reply with the access credentials to the IEEE802.11 website area. This access is for individuals only. =20 Regards, -mani =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5E4C3.05DDB4B7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In the IETF CAPWAP session yesterday IEEE802.11 WLAN = liaison to IETF Dorothy Stanley presented on IEEE 802.11 task group status and = touched upon task groups standardization work

That is of potential interest to the WG = (Dorothy’s presentation will be posted in https://onsite.ietf.org/public/meeting_materials.cgi?meeting_num=3D64= ).

 

Specifically - mention of 802.11k, 802.11v, 802.11r = work came up. (Currently Draft standard specifications of ongoing work is = usually not available to non-members of IEEE802.11 standards. = However,

Considering potential CAPWAP impact IEEE802.11 is = willing to kindly make it available to the WG on an as-needed = basis.

 

Per the agreed arrangement with IEEE802.11 liaison = (Dorothy Stanley):

       Those who do not = and wish to have access to the draft versions may email me (mmani@avaya.com) directly and I will = reply with the access credentials to the IEEE802.11 website = area.

       This access is = for individuals only.

 

Regards,

-mani

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C5E4C3.05DDB4B7-- _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Wed Nov 09 08:21:12 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EZpt1-00031p-Tg for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 08:21:12 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA08631 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 08:20:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6F361FDD3; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 08:21:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from il.marvell.com (shoshil.marvell.com [199.203.130.250]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465C81FDBE for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 08:20:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from msilexch01.marvell.com (msilexch01.il.marvell.com [10.4.5.104]) by il.marvell.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jA9DK1Wn014353 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:20:01 +0200 (IST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Thread-Index: AcXiJ71QbZNKQf9kSOaf6Uy5A3MzAwBKvtTgAAP+y7kAGvoO8AAAxhoAAFeeqdA= From: "Youval Nachum" To: Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:20:01 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol Thanks UV -----Original Message----- From: "Sood, Kapil" Sent: 11/6/2005 8:23:14 PM To: "Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com", "capwap@frascone.com", "bwijnen@lucent.com", "mmani@avaya.com", "david.kessens@nokia.com" Cc:=20 Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol Best Regards, =20 Kapil. 503.264.3759 > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: capwap-admin@frascone.com [mailto:capwap-admin@frascone.com] On Behalf > >Of Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > >Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 8:13 PM > >To: capwap@frascone.com > >Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com; david.kessens@nokia.com;=20 > >Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > >Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol > > > > > >After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed by > >the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The > >evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and > >should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. > > > >Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new CAPWAP > >protocol: > > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. > > > >The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be > >address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be > >addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG consensus. > >In order to progress the work, we are separating the Evaluation's team > >proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and then evaluate each > >recommendation separately. > > > >Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November > >4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face > >CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. > > > >Best Regards, > >Dorothy and Mani > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Capwap mailing list > >Capwap@frascone.com > >http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Capwap mailing list > >Capwap@lists.frascone.com > >http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Capwap mailing list > Capwap@lists.frascone.com > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Wed Nov 09 12:59:24 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EZuEG-0005Qd-EU for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 12:59:24 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA26212 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 12:58:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD861FE26; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 12:59:09 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from gateout02.mbox.net (gateout02.mbox.net [165.212.64.22]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5019520649 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 13:35:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from gateout02.mbox.net (gateout02.mbox.net [165.212.64.22]) by gateout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7C6163B79; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 17:13:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gateout02.mbox.net [127.0.0.1] by gateout02.mbox.net via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.27E) with ESMTP id 388JkgRNw0188Mo2; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 17:13:23 GMT Received: from gateout02.mbox.net [127.0.0.1] by gateout02.mbox.net via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.27E) with ESMTP id 385JkgRNV0063Mo2; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 17:13:21 GMT X-USANET-Routed: 2 gwsout-vs R:localhost:1825 Received: from gw4.EXCHPROD.USA.NET [165.212.116.254] by gateout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.27I); Mon, 07 Nov 2005 17:13:21 GMT X-USANET-Source: 165.212.116.254 IN skh@nexthop.com gw4.EXCHPROD.USA.NET X-USANET-MsgId: XID124JkgRNV9704Xo2 Received: from VS4.EXCHPROD.USA.NET ([10.116.208.141]) by gw4.EXCHPROD.USA.NET with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 7 Nov 2005 10:13:15 -0700 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7232.53 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Message-ID: <6F44D7F6B24A8F4DA0AB46C9BE924F027BA9E8@VS4.EXCHPROD.USA.NET> Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Thread-Index: AcXiJ71QbZNKQf9kSOaf6Uy5A3MzAwBKvtTgAAP+y7kAFtBtEA== From: "Susan Hares" To: "Nafea Bshara" , , "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2005 17:13:15.0242 (UTC) FILETIME=[8A3C34A0:01C5E3BE] Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 10:09:40 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes: LWAPP should be the basis for CAPWAP. Sue =3D > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: capwap-admin@frascone.com [mailto:capwap-admin@frascone.com] On Behalf > >Of Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > >Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 8:13 PM > >To: capwap@frascone.com > >Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com; david.kessens@nokia.com; > >Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > >Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol > > > > > >After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed by > >the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The > >evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and > >should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. > > > >Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new CAPWAP > >protocol: > > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. > > > >The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be > >address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be > >addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG consensus. > >In order to progress the work, we are separating the Evaluation's team > >proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and then evaluate each > >recommendation separately. > > > >Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November > >4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face > >CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. > > > >Best Regards, > >Dorothy and Mani > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Capwap mailing list > >Capwap@frascone.com > >http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Capwap mailing list > >Capwap@lists.frascone.com > >http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Capwap mailing list > Capwap@lists.frascone.com > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Wed Nov 09 12:59:31 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EZuEN-0005Vl-I1 for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 12:59:31 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA26220 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 12:59:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D6341FDD3; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 12:59:15 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from il.marvell.com (shoshil.marvell.com [199.203.130.250]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E295206C8 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 14:33:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from msilexch01.marvell.com (msilexch01.il.marvell.com [10.4.5.104]) by il.marvell.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jA7JXsaH006736 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 22:33:54 +0300 (IST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: FW: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Thread-Index: AcXiJ71QbZNKQf9kSOaf6Uy5A3MzAwBKvtTgAAP+y7kAGvoO8AAAxhoA From: "Youval Nachum" To: Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 21:33:54 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol Thanks UV -----Original Message----- From: "Sood, Kapil" Sent: 11/6/2005 8:23:14 PM To: "Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com", "capwap@frascone.com", "bwijnen@lucent.com", "mmani@avaya.com", "david.kessens@nokia.com" Cc:=20 Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol Best Regards, =20 Kapil. 503.264.3759 > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: capwap-admin@frascone.com [mailto:capwap-admin@frascone.com] On Behalf > >Of Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > >Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 8:13 PM > >To: capwap@frascone.com > >Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com; david.kessens@nokia.com;=20 > >Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > >Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol > > > > > >After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed by > >the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The > >evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and > >should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. > > > >Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new CAPWAP > >protocol: > > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. > > > >The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be > >address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be > >addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG consensus. > >In order to progress the work, we are separating the Evaluation's team > >proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and then evaluate each > >recommendation separately. > > > >Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November > >4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face > >CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. > > > >Best Regards, > >Dorothy and Mani > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Capwap mailing list > >Capwap@frascone.com > >http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Capwap mailing list > >Capwap@lists.frascone.com > >http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Capwap mailing list > Capwap@lists.frascone.com > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Wed Nov 09 12:59:39 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EZuEV-0005ZX-0n for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 12:59:39 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA26231 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 12:59:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51ECA1FE29; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 12:59:22 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@lists.frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@lists.frascone.com Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [63.240.77.81]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF772080D for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 16:23:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from 204.127.205.142 (smailcenter67.comcast.net[204.127.205.167]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005110721211401100mq87ke>; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 21:21:19 +0000 Received: from [64.119.152.125] by 204.127.205.142; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:21:13 +0000 From: finn.e@comcast.net To: capwap@lists.frascone.com Message-Id: <110720052121.14762.436FC5490006935F000039AA22070215730AD202020700@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Dec 17 2004) X-Authenticated-Sender: Zmlubi5lQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_14762_1131398473_0" Subject: [Capwap] RE: [Capwap} Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:21:13 +0000 --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_14762_1131398473_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_14762_1131398473_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol
--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_14762_1131398473_0-- _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Wed Nov 09 12:59:46 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EZuEc-0005nD-OM for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 12:59:46 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA26253 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 12:59:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1FCB1FF27; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 12:59:34 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from sj-iport-4.cisco.com (sj-iport-4.cisco.com [171.68.10.86]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785601FC9D for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 15:11:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com ([171.68.223.137]) by sj-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 08 Nov 2005 12:11:37 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-231.cisco.com [128.107.191.100]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id jA8KAlaH006909 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 12:11:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from xmb-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.73]) by xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 8 Nov 2005 12:11:29 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5E4A0.9AB5A20C" Message-ID: <803806A20D0BF0499BF2312BD2D671E302A73D@xmb-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com> Thread-Topic: Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Thread-Index: AcXkoD1TKJrR0bJlTSGXjK7Fad63hg== From: "Thao Tran (tptran)" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2005 20:11:29.0346 (UTC) FILETIME=[9AD4BA20:01C5E4A0] Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 12:08:52 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5E4A0.9AB5A20C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol Thao Tran ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5E4A0.9AB5A20C Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol

YES:  LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP = protocol


Thao = Tran

------_=_NextPart_001_01C5E4A0.9AB5A20C-- _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Wed Nov 09 13:00:13 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EZuF1-0006Pi-BS for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 13:00:13 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA26282 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 12:59:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A5951FE26; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 13:00:07 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from smtp1.mei.co.jp (smtp.mei.co.jp [133.183.129.25]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D76920770 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 21:25:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-gw.jp.panasonic.com (dodgers.mei.co.jp [157.8.1.150]) by smtp1.mei.co.jp (8.12.10/3.7W/bulls) with ESMTP id jA82PDOR026571 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 11:25:13 +0900 (JST) Received: by mail-gw.jp.panasonic.com (8.11.6p2/3.7W/somlx3) with ESMTP id jA82PFZ09004 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 11:25:16 +0900 (JST) Received: from pslexc01.psl.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.jp.panasonic.com (8.11.6p2/3.7W/indians) with ESMTP id jA82PEA21824 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 11:25:14 +0900 (JST) Received: from CalmPalm ([10.81.113.50]) by pslexc01.psl.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 8 Nov 2005 10:22:20 +0800 Reply-To: From: "Tan Pek Yew" To: Organization: Panasonic Singapore Laboratories MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcXhklPZUzn9pRwHSpK5wYhL1H9WJQCdmTqQ In-Reply-To: <75D9B5F4E50C8B4BB27622BD06C2B82BC969B7@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2005 02:22:20.0853 (UTC) FILETIME=[3F597E50:01C5E40B] Subject: [Capwap] No, LWAPP should bot be the basis for CAPWAP protocol Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 10:22:10 +0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No, LWAPP should not be the basis for CAPWAP protocol. CAPWAP should be an robust protocol having the best features extracted from the 4 protocol proposal submitted thus far. > -----Original Message----- > From: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com > [mailto:capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com] On Behalf Of Tim > Olson (tolson) > Sent: 05 November 2005 06:52 > To: capwap@frascone.com > Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com; > david.kessens@nokia.com; Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the > CAPWAP protocol > > Yes, LWAPP should be the basis for the CAPWAP protocol > > _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Wed Nov 09 13:32:10 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EZujx-0008ND-Tg for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 13:32:09 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA28259 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 13:31:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F2711FE28; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 13:32:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@lists.frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@lists.frascone.com Received: from voltage-out.atheros.com (unknown [12.36.123.8]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29EB61FE26 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 13:31:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from atheros.com (mail.users.atheros.com [10.10.11.2]) by voltage-out.atheros.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jA8NUbJ7006558 for ; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 15:30:37 -0800 Received: from [10.10.19.190] (account kevin HELO [10.10.19.190]) by atheros.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.4) with ESMTP id 30186793 for capwap@lists.frascone.com; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 14:40:13 -0800 Message-ID: <4371294B.6060108@atheros.com> From: Kevin Hayes Organization: Atheros Communications User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.4 (Windows/20050908) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: capwap@lists.frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 14:40:11 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes. LWAPP should be the basis for the CAPWAP protocol. K++ -- Kevin Hayes Atheros Communications Inc. 408-773-5275 _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Wed Nov 09 13:36:10 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EZunq-0003Ju-7L for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 13:36:10 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA28757 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 13:35:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93FAD1FF06; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 13:36:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@lists.frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@lists.frascone.com Received: from voltage-out.atheros.com (unknown [12.36.123.8]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6228E1FE26 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 13:35:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from atheros.com (mail.users.atheros.com [10.10.11.2]) by voltage-out.atheros.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jA9JPpjB017466 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 11:25:51 -0800 Received: from [10.10.19.190] (account kevin HELO [10.10.19.190]) by atheros.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.4) with ESMTP id 30204014 for capwap@lists.frascone.com; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 10:35:29 -0800 Message-ID: <4372416F.4000300@atheros.com> From: Kevin Hayes Organization: Atheros Communications User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.4 (Windows/20050908) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: capwap@lists.frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 10:35:27 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes. LWAPP should be the basis for the CAPWAP protocol. K++ -- Kevin Hayes Atheros Communications Inc. 408-773-5275 _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Wed Nov 09 22:35:01 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Ea3DJ-0003Yc-FL for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:35:01 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA02518 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 22:34:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC7C1FF32; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 22:34:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from mms1.broadcom.com (mms1.broadcom.com [216.31.210.17]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A850E1FF30 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 22:33:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from 10.10.64.121 by mms1.broadcom.com with SMTP (Broadcom SMTP Relay (Email Firewall v6.2.0)); Wed, 09 Nov 2005 19:33:41 -0800 X-Server-Uuid: F962EFE0-448C-40EE-8100-87DF498ED0EA Received: from mail-irva-8.broadcom.com ([10.10.64.221]) by mail-irva-1.broadcom.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-72233U7200L2200S0V35) with ESMTP id com; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 19:33:38 -0800 Received: from mon-irva-10.broadcom.com (mon-irva-10.broadcom.com [10.10.64.171]) by mail-irva-8.broadcom.com (MOS 3.5.6-GR) with ESMTP id CEV61144; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 19:33:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-sj1-5.sj.broadcom.com (mail-sj1-5.sj.broadcom.com [10.16.128.236]) by mon-irva-10.broadcom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA21094; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 19:33:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from elrond.sj.broadcom.com (dt-sv1-019 [10.19.72.22]) by mail-sj1-5.sj.broadcom.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/SSF) with ESMTP id jAA3Xcov017504; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 19:33:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from elrond.sj.broadcom.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by elrond.sj.broadcom.com (8.13.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id jAA3XcoY030308; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 19:33:38 -0800 Received: (from henryp@localhost) by elrond.sj.broadcom.com ( 8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id jAA3XU4n030305; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 19:33:30 -0800 From: "Henry Ptasinski" To: Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Cc: capwap@frascone.com, bwijnen@lucent.com, mmani@avaya.com, david.kessens@nokia.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Message-ID: <20051110033330.GA30287@elrond.sj.broadcom.com> References: <893AE265F4ADF94AB7FB26D31A788E410131DE9C@mvebe101.NOE.Nokia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <893AE265F4ADF94AB7FB26D31A788E410131DE9C@mvebe101.NOE.Nokia.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-WSS-ID: 6F6C601F37W8794128-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 19:33:30 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 05:12:57PM -0700, Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com wrote: > > After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed > by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The > evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and > should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. > > Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new > CAPWAP protocol: > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. > > The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be > address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be > addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG > consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the > Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and > then evaluate each recommendation separately. > > Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November > 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face > CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. > > Best Regards, > Dorothy and Mani > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Capwap mailing list > Capwap@frascone.com > http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap -- Henry Ptasinski +1-408-543-3316 Broadcom Home And Wireless Networking henryp@broadcom.com _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Wed Nov 09 22:41:10 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Ea3JG-0005Nd-BH for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:41:10 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA03302 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 22:40:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3123D1FF33; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 22:41:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from ind.alcatel.com (postal1.ind.alcatel.com [208.8.0.237]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982541FF30 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 22:40:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhub1.ind.alcatel.com (mailhub1.ind.alcatel.com [198.206.181.170]) by ind.alcatel.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/(postal1 2.1 [OUT])) with ESMTP id jAA3eBbl018221; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 19:40:13 -0800 (PST) X-InterScan: Passed Received: from mailhub1.ind.alcatel.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhub1.ind.alcatel.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/(mailhub1 4.1.4 [HUB1])) with ESMTP id jAA3eAsN025650; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 19:40:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.251.16.104] ([128.251.16.104]) by mailhub1.ind.alcatel.com (MailFrontier 4.1.1.5579) with ESMTP; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 19:40:11 -0800 Message-ID: <4372C067.5020806@alcatel.com> From: Jean-Luc Ronarch Organization: Alcatel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Cc: capwap@frascone.com, bwijnen@lucent.com, mmani@avaya.com, david.kessens@nokia.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol References: <893AE265F4ADF94AB7FB26D31A788E410131DE9C@mvebe101.NOE.Nokia.com> In-Reply-To: <893AE265F4ADF94AB7FB26D31A788E410131DE9C@mvebe101.NOE.Nokia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mlf-Threat: nothreat X-Mlf-Threat-Detailed: nothreat;none;list_addrbk_domain Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 19:37:11 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com wrote: >After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed >by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The >evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and >should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. > >Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new >CAPWAP protocol: > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. > >The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be >address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be >addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG >consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the >Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and >then evaluate each recommendation separately. > >Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November >4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face >CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. > >Best Regards, >Dorothy and Mani > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Capwap mailing list >Capwap@frascone.com >http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > > _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Wed Nov 09 23:07:10 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Ea3iQ-0005er-7y for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 23:07:10 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA04945 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 23:06:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3953F1FF30; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 23:07:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from typhoon.trangosoft.com (unknown [209.82.51.154]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF1C11FCA2 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 23:06:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from phantom-out.trangosoft.com ([136.157.233.22]) by 136.157.233.32 with trend_isnt_name_B; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 23:07:56 -0500 Received: from troll3.trangosoft.com (troll3.trangosoft.com [136.157.233.13]) by phantom-out.trangosoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D2E24FF5; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 23:00:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by troll3.trangosoft.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4DWMQKWY>; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 23:00:15 -0500 Message-ID: <1652EBA28502ED4393B9BC9B8A4B6013403314@mism121a.toronto.chantrynetworks.com> From: Inderpreet Singh To: Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Cc: capwap@frascone.com, bwijnen@lucent.com, mmani@avaya.com, david.kessens@nokia.com Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 23:06:36 -0500 YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol --- Inderpreet Singh On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 05:12:57PM -0700, Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com wrote: > > After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed > by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The > evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and > should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. > > Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new > CAPWAP protocol: > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. > > The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be > address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be > addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG > consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the > Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and > then evaluate each recommendation separately. > > Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November > 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face > CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. > > Best Regards, > Dorothy and Mani > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Capwap mailing list > Capwap@frascone.com > http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap -- Henry Ptasinski +1-408-543-3316 Broadcom Home And Wireless Networking henryp@broadcom.com _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Wed Nov 09 23:29:11 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Ea43j-0002vZ-5T for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 23:29:11 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA06040 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 23:28:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 813C71FF34; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 23:29:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from huawei.com (szxga01-in.huawei.com [61.144.161.53]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FADB1FCA2 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 23:28:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from huawei.com (szxga01-in [172.24.2.3]) by szxga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IPQ00HPH20RDM@szxga01-in.huawei.com> for capwap@frascone.com; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 12:34:03 +0800 (CST) Received: from szxml01-in ([172.24.1.3]) by szxga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IPQ00GYT20R1B@szxga01-in.huawei.com> for capwap@frascone.com; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 12:34:03 +0800 (CST) Received: from PradeepJ ([10.18.4.194]) by szxml01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTPA id <0IPQ002LH296XU@szxml01-in.huawei.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 12:39:07 +0800 (CST) From: Pradeepkumar Jayakar Subject: Re: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol To: Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com, capwap@frascone.com Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com, mmani@avaya.com, david.kessens@nokia.com, Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Message-id: <00cd01c5e5ae$e5504380$c204120a@china.huawei.com> Organization: Huawei Technologies India Pvt. 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Bangalore MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <893AE265F4ADF94AB7FB26D31A788E410131DE9C@mvebe101.NOE.Nokia.com> Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:56:16 +0530 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: ; ; ; Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 5:42 AM Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new CAPWAP protocol: YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and then evaluate each recommendation separately. Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. Best Regards, Dorothy and Mani _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Thu Nov 10 01:13:17 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Ea5gT-0001Lt-8X for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:13:17 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA10370 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:12:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5771FF36; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:13:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from staff-mail.rp.edu.sg (smtp.rp.edu.sg [202.21.158.80]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542BD1FF34 for ; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:12:58 -0500 (EST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.1830 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal Priority: normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5E5BD.C898BB2F" Message-ID: <9C374CF75527504394E573E1937136C401BA7660@staff-mail.rp.edu.sg> Thread-Topic: Logical Group Recommendation R7 thread-index: AcXlvceUfu5sQIPDSzelMn9JCo3pmQ== From: "Richard Gwee" To: Subject: [Capwap] Logical Group Recommendation R7 Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:12:51 +0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5E5BD.C898BB2F X-EC0D2A8E-5CB7-4969-9C36-46D859D137BE-PartID: 72B323A8-7BD6-4D83-8085-EB630DF3B37D Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, =20 During the CAPWAP meeting session, it was unfortunate that I was not given enough time for my presentation. As such, I will like to highlight some of my concerns via this mailing list. I understand that we have to move forward quickly and close all the outstanding issues as many as possible. My presentation slides "CAPWAP Comparative Analysis" has covered many of the topics discussed in the session on Monday. However, I felt that there is one area that has not been really discussed within our working group and that is the default mode for logical groups as listed as R7 in the list. =20 It is important that the final CAPWAP protocol should have a default mode for logical grouping for both wired and wireless aspects of the network. The basic case of mapping VLANs to BSSIDs is the simplest and most common way of doing this. Logical group configuration must cover setup on both these two aspects and include a link between them.=20 =20 I noticed that the status is put as "closed?" although I am not sure what does this really imply. I think for a start, we can try to finalize some of these issues first. Appreciate any comments and feedback. =20 Thanks and regards Richard Gwee Republic Polytechnic, Tanglin Campus, 1 Kay Siang Road, Singapore 248922 = . Website: www.rp.sg . Fax: +65 6415-1310 . 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Hi,

 

During the CAPWAP meeting session, it was unfortunate = that I was not given enough time for my presentation. As such, I will like to highlight some of my concerns via this mailing list. I understand that = we have to move forward quickly and close all the outstanding issues as many as possible. My presentation slides “CAPWAP Comparative = Analysis” has covered many of the topics discussed in the session on Monday. However, = I felt that there is one area that has not been really discussed within our = working group and that is the default mode for logical groups as listed as R7 in = the list.

 

It is important that the final CAPWAP protocol should = have a default mode for logical grouping for both wired and wireless aspects of = the network. The basic case of mapping VLANs to BSSIDs is the simplest and = most common way of doing this. Logical group configuration must cover setup = on both these two aspects and include a link between them.

 

I noticed that the status is put as = “closed?” although I am not sure what does this really imply. I think for a start, we can = try to finalize some of these issues first. Appreciate any comments and = feedback.

 

Thanks and regards

Richard Gwee

Republic Polytechnic, = Tanglin Campus, 1 Kay Siang Road, Singapore 248922
. www.rp.sg . Fax: +65 6415-1310 .
 From = April 2006, we will be located in our new home at 9 Woodlands = Avenue 9,Singapore 738964

Republic Polytechnic, = the first Institute of Higher Learning to fully adopt the Problem-Based = Learning approach in Singapore, continues to strive towards best = practices and maintain excellence in service standards with the = following certifications: Singapore Quality Class (SQC) certification, = People Developer Standards and QEHS standards (ISO 9001, 14001 and OHSAS = 18001 certifications).

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Today's Topics: 1. RE: Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol (Susan Hares) 2. FW: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol (Youval Nachum) 3. RE: [Capwap} Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol (finn.e@comcast.net) 4. Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol (Thao Tran (tptran)) 5. No, LWAPP should bot be the basis for CAPWAP protocol (Tan Pek Yew) 6. Re: Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol (Kevin Hayes) 7. Re: Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol (Kevin Hayes) 8. Re: Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol (Henry Ptasinski) 9. Re: Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol (Jean-Luc Ronarch) 10. RE: Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol (Inderpreet Singh) 11. Re: Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol (Pradeepkumar Jayakar) 12. Logical Group Recommendation R7 (Richard Gwee) --__--__-- Message: 1 Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 10:09:40 -0700 From: "Susan Hares" To: "Nafea Bshara" , , "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" Yes: LWAPP should be the basis for CAPWAP. Sue =3D3D > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: capwap-admin@frascone.com [mailto:capwap-admin@frascone.com] On Behalf > >Of Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > >Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 8:13 PM > >To: capwap@frascone.com > >Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com; david.kessens@nokia.com; > >Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > >Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol > > > > > >After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed by > >the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The > >evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and > >should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. > > > >Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new CAPWAP > >protocol: > > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. > > > >The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be > >address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be > >addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG consensus. > >In order to progress the work, we are separating the Evaluation's team > >proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and then evaluate each > >recommendation separately. > > > >Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November > >4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face > >CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. > > > >Best Regards, > >Dorothy and Mani > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Capwap mailing list > >Capwap@frascone.com > >http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Capwap mailing list > >Capwap@lists.frascone.com > >http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Capwap mailing list > Capwap@lists.frascone.com > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap --__--__-- Message: 2 Subject: FW: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 21:33:54 +0200 From: "Youval Nachum" To: YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol Thanks UV -----Original Message----- From: "Sood, Kapil" Sent: 11/6/2005 8:23:14 PM To: "Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com", "capwap@frascone.com", "bwijnen@lucent.com", "mmani@avaya.com", "david.kessens@nokia.com" Cc:=3D20 Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol Best Regards, =3D20 Kapil. 503.264.3759 > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: capwap-admin@frascone.com [mailto:capwap-admin@frascone.com] On Behalf > >Of Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > >Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 8:13 PM > >To: capwap@frascone.com > >Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com; = david.kessens@nokia.com;=3D20 > >Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > >Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol > > > > > >After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed by > >the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The > >evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and > >should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. > > > >Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new CAPWAP > >protocol: > > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. > > > >The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be > >address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be > >addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG consensus. > >In order to progress the work, we are separating the Evaluation's team > >proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and then evaluate each > >recommendation separately. > > > >Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November > >4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face > >CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. > > > >Best Regards, > >Dorothy and Mani > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Capwap mailing list > >Capwap@frascone.com > >http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Capwap mailing list > >Capwap@lists.frascone.com > >http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Capwap mailing list > Capwap@lists.frascone.com > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap --__--__-- Message: 3 From: finn.e@comcast.net To: capwap@lists.frascone.com Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:21:13 +0000 Subject: [Capwap] RE: [Capwap} Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_14762_1131398473_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_14762_1131398473_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
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--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_14762_1131398473_0-- --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 12:08:52 -0800 From: "Thao Tran (tptran)" To: Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C5E4A0.9AB5A20C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol Thao Tran ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C5E4A0.9AB5A20C Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol

YES:  LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP =3D protocol


Thao =3D Tran

------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C5E4A0.9AB5A20C-- --__--__-- Message: 5 Reply-To: From: "Tan Pek Yew" To: Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 10:22:10 +0800 Organization: Panasonic Singapore Laboratories Subject: [Capwap] No, LWAPP should bot be the basis for CAPWAP protocol No, LWAPP should not be the basis for CAPWAP protocol. CAPWAP should be an robust protocol having the best features extracted from the 4 protocol proposal submitted thus far. > -----Original Message----- > From: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com=20 > [mailto:capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com] On Behalf Of Tim=20 > Olson (tolson) > Sent: 05 November 2005 06:52 > To: capwap@frascone.com > Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com;=20 > david.kessens@nokia.com; Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the=20 > CAPWAP protocol >=20 > Yes, LWAPP should be the basis for the CAPWAP protocol >=20 >=20 --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 14:40:11 -0800 From: Kevin Hayes Organization: Atheros Communications To: capwap@lists.frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Yes. LWAPP should be the basis for the CAPWAP protocol. K++ --=20 Kevin Hayes Atheros Communications Inc. 408-773-5275 --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 10:35:27 -0800 From: Kevin Hayes Organization: Atheros Communications To: capwap@lists.frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Yes. LWAPP should be the basis for the CAPWAP protocol. K++ --=20 Kevin Hayes Atheros Communications Inc. 408-773-5275 --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 19:33:30 -0800 From: "Henry Ptasinski" To: Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Cc: capwap@frascone.com, bwijnen@lucent.com, mmani@avaya.com, david.kessens@nokia.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 05:12:57PM -0700, Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com wrote: >=20 > After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed > by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The > evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and > should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. >=20 > Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new > CAPWAP protocol:=20 > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. >=20 > The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be > address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be > addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG > consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the > Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and > then evaluate each recommendation separately. =20 >=20 > Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November > 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face > CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. =20 >=20 > Best Regards, > Dorothy and Mani >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 > _______________________________________________ > Capwap mailing list > Capwap@frascone.com > http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap --=20 Henry Ptasinski +1-408-543-3316 Broadcom Home And Wireless Networking henryp@broadcom.com --__--__-- Message: 9 Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 19:37:11 -0800 From: Jean-Luc Ronarch Organization: Alcatel To: Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Cc: capwap@frascone.com, bwijnen@lucent.com, mmani@avaya.com, david.kessens@nokia.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com wrote: >After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed >by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The >evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and >should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. > >Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new >CAPWAP protocol:=20 > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. > >The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be >address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be >addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG >consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the >Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and >then evaluate each recommendation separately. =20 > >Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November >4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face >CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. =20 > >Best Regards, >Dorothy and Mani > > > >=20 >_______________________________________________ >Capwap mailing list >Capwap@frascone.com >http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > =20 > --__--__-- Message: 10 From: Inderpreet Singh To: Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Cc: capwap@frascone.com, bwijnen@lucent.com, mmani@avaya.com, david.kessens@nokia.com Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 23:06:36 -0500=20 YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol --- Inderpreet Singh =20 On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 05:12:57PM -0700, Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com wrote: >=20 > After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed > by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The > evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and > should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. >=20 > Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new > CAPWAP protocol:=20 > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. >=20 > The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be > address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be > addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG > consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the > Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and > then evaluate each recommendation separately. =20 >=20 > Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November > 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face > CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. =20 >=20 > Best Regards, > Dorothy and Mani >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 > _______________________________________________ > Capwap mailing list > Capwap@frascone.com > http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap --=20 Henry Ptasinski +1-408-543-3316 Broadcom Home And Wireless Networking henryp@broadcom.com _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap --__--__-- Message: 11 Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:56:16 +0530 From: Pradeepkumar Jayakar Subject: Re: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol To: Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com, capwap@frascone.com Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com, mmani@avaya.com, david.kessens@nokia.com, Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Organization: Huawei Technologies India Pvt. Ltd. Bangalore YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol ----- Original Message -----=20 From: To: Cc: ; ; ; Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 5:42 AM Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new CAPWAP protocol: YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and then evaluate each recommendation separately. Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. Best Regards, Dorothy and Mani _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap --__--__-- Message: 12 Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:12:51 +0800 From: "Richard Gwee" To: Subject: [Capwap] Logical Group Recommendation R7 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C5E5BD.C898BB2F X-EC0D2A8E-5CB7-4969-9C36-46D859D137BE-PartID: 72B323A8-7BD6-4D83-8085-EB630DF3B37D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, =3D20 During the CAPWAP meeting session, it was unfortunate that I was not given enough time for my presentation. As such, I will like to highlight some of my concerns via this mailing list. I understand that we have to move forward quickly and close all the outstanding issues as many as possible. My presentation slides "CAPWAP Comparative Analysis" has covered many of the topics discussed in the session on Monday. However, I felt that there is one area that has not been really discussed within our working group and that is the default mode for logical groups as listed as R7 in the list. =3D20 It is important that the final CAPWAP protocol should have a default mode for logical grouping for both wired and wireless aspects of the network. The basic case of mapping VLANs to BSSIDs is the simplest and most common way of doing this. Logical group configuration must cover setup on both these two aspects and include a link between them.=3D20 =3D20 I noticed that the status is put as "closed?" although I am not sure what does this really imply. I think for a start, we can try to finalize some of these issues first. Appreciate any comments and feedback. =3D20 Thanks and regards Richard Gwee Republic Polytechnic, Tanglin Campus, 1 Kay Siang Road, Singapore 248922 =3D . Website: www.rp.sg . Fax: +65 6415-1310 . 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Hi,

 

During the CAPWAP meeting session, it was unfortunate =3D that I was not given enough time for my presentation. As such, I will like to highlight some of my concerns via this mailing list. I understand that = =3D we have to move forward quickly and close all the outstanding issues as many as possible. My presentation slides “CAPWAP Comparative =3D Analysis” has covered many of the topics discussed in the session on Monday. However, =3D I felt that there is one area that has not been really discussed within our =3D working group and that is the default mode for logical groups as listed as R7 in =3D the list.

 

It is important that the final CAPWAP protocol should =3D have a default mode for logical grouping for both wired and wireless aspects of =3D the network. The basic case of mapping VLANs to BSSIDs is the simplest and = =3D most common way of doing this. Logical group configuration must cover setup = =3D on both these two aspects and include a link between them.

 

I noticed that the status is put as =3D “closed?” although I am not sure what does this really imply. I think for a start, we can = =3D try to finalize some of these issues first. Appreciate any comments and =3D feedback.

 

Thanks and regards

Richard Gwee

Republic = Polytechnic, =3D Tanglin Campus, 1 Kay Siang Road, Singapore 248922
. www.rp.sg . Fax: +65 6415-1310 .
 From = =3D April 2006, we will be located in our new home at 9 Woodlands =3D Avenue 9,Singapore 738964

Republic = Polytechnic, =3D the first Institute of Higher Learning to fully adopt the Problem-Based =3D Learning approach in Singapore, continues to strive towards best =3D practices and maintain excellence in service standards with the =3D following certifications: Singapore Quality Class (SQC) certification, = =3D People Developer Standards and QEHS standards (ISO 9001, 14001 and OHSAS =3D 18001 certifications).

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------_=3D_NextPart_001_01C5E5BD.C898BB2F-- --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap End of Capwap Digest _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Fri Nov 11 09:11:14 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EaZcY-0001l3-2J for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:11:14 -0500 Received: from mail.frascone.com (postfix@frascone.com [204.49.99.9]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id JAA06318 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:10:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from xavier (xavier [127.0.0.1]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E591FE05; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:11:05 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: capwap@frascone.com Delivered-To: capwap@frascone.com Received: from staff-mail.rp.edu.sg (staff-mail.rp.edu.sg [202.21.158.80]) by mail.frascone.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F5B1FC9B for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:10:37 -0500 (EST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.1830 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Message-ID: <9C374CF75527504394E573E1937136C401BA8311@staff-mail.rp.edu.sg> Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol thread-index: AcXcHYQVzc3GGtl2TDecup3AXZQLvgKrA+5g From: "Richard Gwee" To: Sender: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com Errors-To: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@lists.frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:10:29 +0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. -----Original Message----- From: capwap-admin@frascone.com [mailto:capwap-admin@frascone.com] On Behalf Of Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 8:13 AM To: capwap@frascone.com Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com; david.kessens@nokia.com; Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new CAPWAP protocol:=20 YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and then evaluate each recommendation separately. =20 Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. =20 Best Regards, Dorothy and Mani =20 _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Republic Polytechnic, Tanglin Campus, 1 Kay Siang Road, Singapore 248922 = . Website: www.rp.sg . Fax: +65 6415-1310 . 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Thank you. _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Fri Nov 11 11:54:38 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EacAg-0005vm-H3 for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:54:38 -0500 Received: from leela.tigertech.net (leela.tigertech.net [64.71.157.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA19198 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:54:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from leela.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5237A4300B6 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:54:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (hermes.tigertech.net [64.71.157.146]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B971430082 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:53:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FDD780C92C for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:53:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from gtfw2.enterasys.com (gtfw2.enterasys.com [12.25.1.128]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E29080C8F1 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:53:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from NHROCAVG2.ets.enterasys.com ([134.141.79.124]) by gtfw2.enterasys.com (0.25.1/8.12.6) with ESMTP id jABGrh8c003762 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:53:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from NHROCCNC1.ets.enterasys.com ([134.141.79.124]) by 134.141.79.124 with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:53:44 -0500 Received: from source ([134.141.77.90]) by host ([134.141.79.124]) with SMTP; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:53:44 -0500 Received: from MABOSEVS2.ets.enterasys.com ([134.141.77.30]) by NHROCCNC1.ets.enterasys.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:53:43 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:53:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3CFB564E055A594B82C4FE89D215656006B6AB@MABOSEVS2.ets.enterasys.com> Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Thread-Index: AcXcHYQVzc3GGtl2TDecup3AXZQLvgKwtMdQ From: "Nelson, David" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2005 16:53:43.0978 (UTC) FILETIME=[79C280A0:01C5E6E0] X-pstn-version: pmps:sps_win32_1_1_0c1 pase:2.8 X-pstn-levels: (C:78.1961 M:98.9607 P:95.9108 R:95.9108 S:29.8080 ) X-pstn-settings: 4 (0.2500:0.7500) p:13 m:13 C:14 r:13 X-pstn-addresses: from forward (org good) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.024 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests=RCVD_BY_IP X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Cc: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: capwap-archive@ietf.org Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes. LWAPP should be the base protocol for CAPWAP. _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/options/capwap/capwap-archive%40lists.ietf.org From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Fri Nov 11 13:03:51 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EadFe-0005WF-Vr for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:03:51 -0500 Received: from leela.tigertech.net (leela.tigertech.net [64.71.157.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA23653 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:03:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from leela.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03A84300D6 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:03:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (hermes.tigertech.net [64.71.157.146]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B44E430067 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:03:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0654780C95E for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:03:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from gtfw2.enterasys.com (gtfw2.enterasys.com [12.25.1.128]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5155880C953 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:02:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from NHROCAVG2.ets.enterasys.com ([134.141.79.124]) by gtfw2.enterasys.com (0.25.1/8.12.6) with ESMTP id jABI2W8c005948 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:02:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from NHROCCNC1.ets.enterasys.com ([134.141.79.124]) by 134.141.79.124 with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:02:32 -0500 Received: from source ([134.141.77.90]) by host ([134.141.79.124]) with SMTP; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:02:32 -0500 Received: from MABOSEVS2.ets.enterasys.com ([134.141.77.30]) by NHROCCNC1.ets.enterasys.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:02:32 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:02:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3CFB564E055A594B82C4FE89D215656006B6AE@MABOSEVS2.ets.enterasys.com> Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Thread-Index: AcXcHYQVzc3GGtl2TDecup3AXZQLvgKzHHRw From: "Nelson, David" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2005 18:02:32.0228 (UTC) FILETIME=[16637640:01C5E6EA] X-pstn-version: pmps:sps_win32_1_1_0c1 pase:2.8 X-pstn-levels: (C:78.1961 M:98.9607 P:95.9108 R:95.9108 S:34.0601 ) X-pstn-settings: 4 (0.2500:0.7500) p:13 m:13 C:14 r:13 X-pstn-addresses: from forward (org good) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.024 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests=RCVD_BY_IP X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Cc: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: capwap-archive@ietf.org Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes. LAWPP should be the base protocol for CAPWAP. _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/options/capwap/capwap-archive%40lists.ietf.org From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Sat Nov 12 21:40:44 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Eb7nQ-0000K2-4v for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 21:40:44 -0500 Received: from leela.tigertech.net (leela.tigertech.net [64.71.157.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA07084 for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 21:40:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from leela.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7747430102 for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 18:40:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (hermes.tigertech.net [64.71.157.146]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1F043007C for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 18:40:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B369F80C238 for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 18:40:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.207]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCFE080C7FA for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 18:40:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i5so512319wra for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 18:40:09 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=thVns9ys/oiJG3nfrQiBtKu2BB39V390jznXrQ+Zg89dp/JUkGzPut1YyyFB76WLUv+DHVIMAih9a60cLKYuH0mTCSlCRVP1zgn2VF3GM54ca+DR9EUNNqcGas20FxWd51cwNOVQSbAZNXBd+skowr7JGSPAcZvntjx+CCdza9s= Received: by 10.65.218.2 with SMTP id v2mr4032368qbq; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 18:40:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.242.17 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 18:40:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 18:40:09 -0800 From: Keerti Melkote Subject: Re: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol In-Reply-To: <3CFB564E055A594B82C4FE89D215656006B6AE@MABOSEVS2.ets.enterasys.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3CFB564E055A594B82C4FE89D215656006B6AE@MABOSEVS2.ets.enterasys.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.111 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests=HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_BY_IP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Cc: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: capwap-archive@ietf.org Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No. LWAPP should not be the basis for CAPWAP due to 1. 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Darwin At 2005/10/28 16:12, Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com wrote: >After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed >by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The >evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and >should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. > >Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new >CAPWAP protocol: > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. > >The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be >address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be >addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG >consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the >Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and >then evaluate each recommendation separately. > >Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November >4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face >CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. > >Best Regards, >Dorothy and Mani > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Capwap mailing list >Capwap@frascone.com >http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/options/capwap/capwap-archive%40lists.ietf.org From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Wed Nov 16 10:43:04 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EcPRA-0004R1-Pl for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:43:04 -0500 Received: from leela.tigertech.net (leela.tigertech.net [64.71.157.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA04377 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:42:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from leela.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3891A430160 for ; 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Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5EAD7.F65636B1 Content-Type: text/plain NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. -----Original Message----- At 2005/10/28 16:12, Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com wrote: >After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed >by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. >The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal >and should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. > >Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new >CAPWAP protocol: > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. > >The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be >address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be >addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG >consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the >Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and >then evaluate each recommendation separately. > >Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November >4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face >CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. > >Best Regards, >Dorothy and Mani > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Capwap mailing list >Capwap@frascone.com >http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/options/capwap/philip.agcaoili%40sciatl.co m - - - - - - - Appended by Scientific-Atlanta, Inc. - - - - - - - This e-mail and any attachments may contain information which is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise protected by law. The information is solely intended for the named addressee (or a person responsible for delivering it to the addressee). If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this message or any part of it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete it from your computer. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5EAD7.F65636B1 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol</T= ITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>NO:   LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPW= AP protocol.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2> </FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>At 2005/10/28 16:12, Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com wrote:</F= ONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>>After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluati= on draft completed </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the prot= ocol consensus.  </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most= complete proposal </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>and should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP proto= col going forward.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>Please respond to this email indicating support for = LWAPP as the new </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>CAPWAP protocol:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>         YES= :  LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>         NO:=    LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>The evaluation has also raised a number of recommend= ation that should be</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendat= ion.   These will be</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that= achieves WG </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>consensus.  In order to progress the work, we a= re separating the </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on= the protcol, and </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>then evaluate each recommendation separately.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>Please submit your response to this protocol poll by= Friday, November</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>4th.   We will discuss the results of the = poll at the face to face</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>Best Regards,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>Dorothy and Mani</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>_______________________________________________</FON= T> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>Capwap mailing list</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>Capwap@frascone.com</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>><A HREF=3D"http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo= /capwap" TARGET=3D"_blank">http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap= </A></FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>_________________________________________________________= ________</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, plea= se visit:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2><A HREF=3D"http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/options/cap= wap/philip.agcaoili%40sciatl.com" TARGET=3D"_blank">http://lists.frascone.c= om/mailman/options/capwap/philip.agcaoili%40sciatl.com</A></FONT> </P> <FONT SIZE=3D3><BR> <BR> - - - - - - - Appended by Scientific-Atlanta, Inc. - - - - - - - <B= R> This e-mail and any attachments may contain information which is confidenti= al, proprietary, privileged or otherwise protected by law. 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Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5EADB.63FB89B6 Content-Type: text/plain Hi all, I recall at the meeting there was discussion that we would continue a more thorough analysis of the issues with utilizing DTLS for securing the LWAPP control channel (if any) on the email list. Any update or timeframe on that? In addition, we need to close on the choice between 1) separate UDP ports for the control and data path 2) protocol mux in the headers Much appreciated, thanks --- Inderpreet Singh Chief Architect Chantry Networks Inc., A Siemens Company inderpreet.singh@siemens.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5EADB.63FB89B6 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3DUS-ASCII"> <META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version = 5.5.2657.73"> <TITLE>CAPWAP and DTLS

Hi all,

I recall at the meeting there was = discussion that we would continue a more thorough analysis of the = issues with utilizing DTLS for securing the LWAPP control channel (if = any) on the email list.  Any update or timeframe on = that?

In addition, we need to close on the = choice between
        1) separate UDP ports for the control and data = path
        2) protocol mux in the headers

Much appreciated, thanks

---
Inderpreet = Singh
Chief = Architect
Chantry Networks = Inc., A Siemens Company
inderpreet.singh@siemens.com


------_=_NextPart_001_01C5EADB.63FB89B6-- _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@lists.frascone.com http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Wed Nov 16 14:10:22 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EcSfm-0002Pd-2B for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:10:22 -0500 Received: from leela.tigertech.net (leela.tigertech.net [64.71.157.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA17831 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:09:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from leela.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97EDF430148 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:10:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (hermes.tigertech.net [64.71.157.146]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD3043005A for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:09:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7769880C191 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:09:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from foretec.com (furball.foretec.com [132.151.15.110]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6C480C199 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:09:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.cnri.reston.va.us ([127.0.0.1] helo=furball.foretec.com) by foretec.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1EcSes-00022N-Ie; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:09:26 -0500 Received: from 10.27.16.5 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ids) by furball.foretec.com with HTTP; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:09:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4423.10.27.16.5.1132168166.squirrel@furball.foretec.com> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20051116012655.04651810@ZRC2HXM0.us.nortel.com> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20051116012655.04651810@ZRC2HXM0.us.nortel.com> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:09:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: "Darwin Engwer" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.228 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO, NO_REAL_NAME Cc: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: internet-drafts@ietf.org List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Could you please delete internet-drafts@ietf.org e-mail address from your discussion list. Thank you. > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. > > Darwin > > > At 2005/10/28 16:12, Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com wrote: > >>After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed >>by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The >>evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and >>should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. >> >>Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new >>CAPWAP protocol: >> YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, >> NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. >> >>The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be >>address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be >>addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG >>consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the >>Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and >>then evaluate each recommendation separately. >> >>Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November >>4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face >>CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. >> >>Best Regards, >>Dorothy and Mani >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Capwap mailing list >>Capwap@frascone.com >>http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/options/capwap/internet-drafts%40ietf.org > > _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Wed Nov 16 14:29:42 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EcSyU-0008JV-5o for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:29:42 -0500 Received: from leela.tigertech.net (leela.tigertech.net [64.71.157.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA19031 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:29:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from leela.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42151430165 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:29:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (hermes.tigertech.net [64.71.157.146]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34FC143005A for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:28:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDEE080C19B for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:28:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from tierw.net.avaya.com (tierw.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E618880C17A for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:28:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from tierw.net.avaya.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tierw.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id jAGJETPp001819 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:14:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from cof110avexu1.global.avaya.com (h135-9-6-16.avaya.com [135.9.6.16]) by tierw.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id jAGGABPJ005178 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:11:21 -0500 (EST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 09:24:16 -0700 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: IPR disclosure update Thread-Index: AcXqyi/sSOpBloulRQCdJZs7CD+DhA== X-Priority: 1 Priority: Urgent Importance: high From: "Mani, Mahalingam (Mahalingam)" To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.283 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests=HTML_90_100, HTML_MESSAGE, X_PRIORITY_HIGH Subject: [Capwap] IPR disclosure update X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0727566669==" Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0727566669== content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5EACA.307C3500" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5EACA.307C3500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable NextHop's IPR claim on LWAPP has now been posted. =20 The note from IETF secretariat states: =20 An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled "Light Weight Access Point Protocol" (draft-ohara-capwap-lwapp) was submitted to the IETF Secretariat on 2005-09-15 and has been posted on the "IETF Page of Intellectual Property Rights Disclosures" (https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/ipr_list.cgi). The title of the IPR disclosure is "NextHop Technologies Statement about IPR claimed in draft-ohara-capwap-lwapp-03." =20 Regards, -mani =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5EACA.307C3500 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

NextHop’s IPR claim on LWAPP has now been = posted.

 

The note from IETF secretariat = states:

 

An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled "Light = Weight Access Point Protocol" (draft-ohara-capwap-lwapp) was submitted to = the IETF Secretariat on 2005-09-15 and has been posted on the "IETF = Page of Intellectual Property Rights Disclosures" (https://datatra= cker.ietf.org/public/ipr_list.cgi).

The title of the IPR disclosure is "NextHop Technologies Statement = about IPR claimed in = draft-ohara-capwap-lwapp-03."

 

Regards,

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C5EACA.307C3500-- --===============0727566669== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap --===============0727566669==-- From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Wed Nov 16 15:08:12 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EcTZk-0000Sl-Bt for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:08:12 -0500 Received: from leela.tigertech.net (leela.tigertech.net [64.71.157.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA20837 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:07:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from leela.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDCFA4300AF for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:08:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (hermes.tigertech.net [64.71.157.146]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64CE04300AF for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:07:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 064E480C1A2 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:07:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from netcore.fi (netcore.fi [193.94.160.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B5080C18E for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:07:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (pekkas@localhost) by netcore.fi (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id jAGK7HX06508 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:07:17 +0200 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:07:17 +0200 (EET) From: Pekka Savola To: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests= X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com On Wed, 16 Nov 2005, Agcaoili, Philip wrote: > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. I don't know why I'm getting these mails (maybe the list configuration changed, because I was just on a whilelist before), but in any case... NO: a simple "RAND" license is insufficient for open-source and free software communities. We should not decide on the protocol before these are decided; if we do, our "lever" to the IPR holders may diminish. B.t.w., the WG charter page's mailing-list archive URL is broken. > -----Original Message----- > At 2005/10/28 16:12, Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com wrote: > >> After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed >> by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. >> The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal >> and should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. >> >> Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new >> CAPWAP protocol: >> YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, >> NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. >> >> The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be >> address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be >> addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG >> consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the >> Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and >> then evaluate each recommendation separately. >> >> Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November >> 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face >> CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. >> >> Best Regards, >> Dorothy and Mani >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Capwap mailing list >> Capwap@frascone.com >> http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/options/capwap/philip.agcaoili%40sciatl.co > m > > > - - - - - - - Appended by Scientific-Atlanta, Inc. - - - - - - - > This e-mail and any attachments may contain information which is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise protected by law. 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Martin: A Clash of Kings _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Wed Nov 16 15:23:38 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EcTog-0004pd-0y for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:23:38 -0500 Received: from leela.tigertech.net (leela.tigertech.net [64.71.157.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA21747 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:23:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from leela.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D84E94301BA for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:23:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from bender.tigertech.net (bender.tigertech.net [64.71.157.153]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E5D43005A for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:23:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bender.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44DD21CD8670; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:22:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.25.120.204] (sj-natpool-220.cisco.com [128.107.248.220]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by bender.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A5D31CD867A; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:22:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <437B9520.3020800@frascone.com> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:22:56 -0600 From: David Frascone User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pekka Savola Subject: Re: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on bender.tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=-999.0 required=7.0 tests= Cc: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pekka Savola wrote: > On Wed, 16 Nov 2005, Agcaoili, Philip wrote: > >> NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. > > > I don't know why I'm getting these mails (maybe the list configuration > changed, because I was just on a whilelist before), but in any case... > > NO: a simple "RAND" license is insufficient for open-source and free > software communities. We should not decide on the protocol before > these are decided; if we do, our "lever" to the IPR holders may diminish. > > B.t.w., the WG charter page's mailing-list archive URL is broken. > >> -----Original Message----- >> At 2005/10/28 16:12, Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com wrote: >> >>> After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed >>> by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. >>> The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal >>> and should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. >>> >>> Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new >>> CAPWAP protocol: >>> YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, >>> NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. >>> >>> The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that >>> should be >>> address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These >>> will be >>> addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG >>> consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the >>> Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and >>> then evaluate each recommendation separately. >>> >>> Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November >>> 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face >>> CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> Dorothy and Mani >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Capwap mailing list >>> Capwap@frascone.com >>> http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: >> http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/options/capwap/philip.agcaoili%40sciatl.co >> >> m >> >> >> - - - - - - - Appended by Scientific-Atlanta, Inc. - - - - - - - >> This e-mail and any attachments may contain information which is >> confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise protected by law. >> The information is solely intended for the named addressee (or a >> person responsible for delivering it to the addressee). 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Refer to disclosure 659 under=20 https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/ipr_list.cgi -mani =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D -----Original Message----- From: Apache [mailto:apache@newodin.ietf.org] On Behalf Of IETF Secretariat Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 12:15 PM To: pcalhoun@cisco.com Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; Mani, Mahalingam (Mahalingam); dorothy.gellert@nokia.com Subject: Posting of IPR Disclosure Dear Pat Calhoun: An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled "Light Weight Access Point Protocol" (draft-ohara-capwap-lwapp) was submitted to the IETF Secretariat on 2005-11-16 and has been posted on the "IETF Page of Intellectual Property Rights Disclosures" (https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/ipr_list.cgi). The title of the IPR disclosure is "NextHop Technologies 's statement about IPR claimed in draft-ohara-capwap-lwapp-03.txt." 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Refer to disclosure 660 under=20 https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/ipr_list.cgi -mani =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D -----Original Message----- From: Apache [mailto:apache@newodin.ietf.org] On Behalf Of IETF Secretariat Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 12:14 PM To: partha@arubanetworks.com Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; Mani, Mahalingam (Mahalingam); dorothy.gellert@nokia.com Subject: Posting of IPR Disclosure Dear Partha Narasimhan: An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled "SLAPP : Secure Light Access Point Protocol" (draft-narasimhan-ietf-slapp) was submitted to the IETF Secretariat on 2005-11-16 and has been posted on the "IETF Page of Intellectual Property Rights Disclosures" (https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/ipr_list.cgi). The title of the IPR disclosure is "NextHop Technologies 's statement about IPR claimed in draft-narasimhan-ietf-slapp-01.txt." 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Hi All,

I want to know about UDP connection significance for LWAPP.

 

Regards

 Madhur

 

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--Boundary_(ID_23wXyy4FUJJWdNa2DBboNg)-- --===============0574602554== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap --===============0574602554==-- From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Thu Nov 17 13:30:53 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EcoX7-0001yG-LS for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 13:30:53 -0500 Received: from leela.tigertech.net (leela.tigertech.net [64.71.157.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA12463 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 13:30:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from leela.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44C374301F4 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:30:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (hermes.tigertech.net [64.71.157.146]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AA3D430077 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:30:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E741380C245 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:30:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mms1.broadcom.com (mms1.broadcom.com [216.31.210.17]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B0480C247 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:30:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from 10.10.64.121 by mms1.broadcom.com with SMTP (Broadcom SMTP Relay (Email Firewall v6.2.0)); Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:29:57 -0800 X-Server-Uuid: F962EFE0-448C-40EE-8100-87DF498ED0EA Received: from mail-irva-8.broadcom.com ([10.10.64.221]) by mail-irva-1.broadcom.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-72233U7200L2200S0V35) with ESMTP id com; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:29:54 -0800 Received: from mon-irva-10.broadcom.com (mon-irva-10.broadcom.com [10.10.64.171]) by mail-irva-8.broadcom.com (MOS 3.5.6-GR) with ESMTP id CFU92897; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:29:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from nt-sjca-0740.brcm.ad.broadcom.com ( nt-sjca-0740.sj.broadcom.com [10.16.192.49]) by mon-irva-10.broadcom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA06717; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:29:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from NT-SJCA-0751.brcm.ad.broadcom.com ([10.16.192.221]) by nt-sjca-0740.brcm.ad.broadcom.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:29:55 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:29:54 -0800 Message-ID: <8954613CA6BB3242A1531D916A527A411153FC@NT-SJCA-0751.brcm.ad.broadcom.com> Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Thread-Index: AcXq6X7NpPP5vg2zRL2iWzNTcvri+QAuaJ5Q From: "Puneet Agarwal" To: "Pekka Savola" , "A list for CAPWAP technical discussions" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Nov 2005 18:29:55.0919 (UTC) FILETIME=[E8954DF0:01C5EBA4] X-WSS-ID: 6F6213AF37W12993584-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests= X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I supported LWAPP as a base protocol. However, in light of Pekka's comment (about RAND being insufficient for open source and free software), it seems that the group members should really reconsider the IPR terms for the base CAPWAP protocol. It would also help if IETF (WG chairs/AD etc) itself makes a statement about IETF's commitment (or not) to open source (and the requisite licensing terms). Maybe it is time for IETF itself to modify/strengthen it's requirement for IPR. Not all of us are conversant in the licensing requirements for open-source/free-software. Pekka: What licensing terms are the minimal requirements for open-source/free software? Thanks. -Puneet -----Original Message----- From: Pekka Savola [mailto:pekkas@netcore.fi]=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 12:07 PM To: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol On Wed, 16 Nov 2005, Agcaoili, Philip wrote: > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. I don't know why I'm getting these mails (maybe the list configuration changed, because I was just on a whilelist before), but in any case... NO: a simple "RAND" license is insufficient for open-source and free software communities. We should not decide on the protocol before these are decided; if we do, our "lever" to the IPR holders may diminish. B.t.w., the WG charter page's mailing-list archive URL is broken. > -----Original Message----- > At 2005/10/28 16:12, Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com wrote: > >> After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft=20 >> completed by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. >> The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete=20 >> proposal and should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. >> >> Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new=20 >> CAPWAP protocol: >> YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, >> NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. >> >> The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be >> address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be >> addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG=20 >> consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the=20 >> Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and >> then evaluate each recommendation separately. >> >> Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November >> 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face >> CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. >> >> Best Regards, >> Dorothy and Mani >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Capwap mailing list >> Capwap@frascone.com >> http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/options/capwap/philip.agcaoili%40sci > atl.co > m > > > - - - - - - - Appended by Scientific-Atlanta, Inc. - - - - - - - > This e-mail and any attachments may contain information which is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise protected by law. The information is solely intended for the named addressee (or a person responsible for delivering it to the addressee). If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this message or any part of it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete it from your computer. > > --=20 Pekka Savola "You each name yourselves king, yet the Netcore Oy kingdom bleeds." Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Thu Nov 17 13:45:56 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Ecolf-0007uB-53 for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 13:45:56 -0500 Received: from leela.tigertech.net (leela.tigertech.net [64.71.157.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA13418 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 13:45:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from leela.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C3E04301FF for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:45:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (hermes.tigertech.net [64.71.157.146]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08711430077 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:45:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09FD580C23A for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:45:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from netcore.fi (netcore.fi [193.94.160.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F94480C240 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:45:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (pekkas@localhost) by netcore.fi (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id jAHIjFY00354; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 20:45:15 +0200 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 20:45:15 +0200 (EET) From: Pekka Savola To: Puneet Agarwal Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol In-Reply-To: <8954613CA6BB3242A1531D916A527A411153FC@NT-SJCA-0751.brcm.ad.broadcom.com> Message-ID: References: <8954613CA6BB3242A1531D916A527A411153FC@NT-SJCA-0751.brcm.ad.broadcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests= Cc: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com On Thu, 17 Nov 2005, Puneet Agarwal wrote: > It would also help if IETF (WG chairs/AD etc) itself makes a statement > about IETF's commitment (or not) to open source (and the requisite > licensing terms). Maybe it is time for IETF itself to modify/strengthen > it's requirement for IPR. Not all of us are conversant in the licensing > requirements for open-source/free-software. > > Pekka: What licensing terms are the minimal requirements for > open-source/free software? I cannot speak for the open-source/free software communities, but I think the following summarizes the two key requirements here: http://www.kame.net/newsletter/20040525/ That is, - no price tag - not require negotiating a license per implementer/user One additional thing that sometimes floats around is "defensive-only IPR", allowing the use of a technology for free and/or without a license as long as you don't sue the licensor for anything they've done. I do not know how well these are received by OSS/FSF communities with/without the above two requirements. HTH, -- Pekka Savola "You each name yourselves king, yet the Netcore Oy kingdom bleeds." Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Thu Nov 17 14:22:40 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EcpLE-0006PR-I8 for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 14:22:40 -0500 Received: from leela.tigertech.net (leela.tigertech.net [64.71.157.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA15437 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 14:22:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from leela.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E4D43022F for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:22:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (hermes.tigertech.net [64.71.157.146]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98B35430077 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:22:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 288A680C23A for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:22:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from blv-smtpout-01.boeing.com (blv-smtpout-01.boeing.com [130.76.32.69]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3181080C209 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:22:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from stl-av-01.boeing.com ([192.76.190.6]) by blv-smtpout-01.boeing.com (8.9.2.MG.10092003/8.8.5-M2) with ESMTP id LAA16630; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:21:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from xch-swbh-11.sw.nos.boeing.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by stl-av-01.boeing.com (8.11.3/8.11.3/MBS-AV-LDAP-01) with ESMTP id jAHJLtY14143; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 13:21:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from XCH-SW-2V1.sw.nos.boeing.com ([129.172.87.194]) by xch-swbh-11.sw.nos.boeing.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:21:50 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:21:45 -0800 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Thread-Index: AcXcHYQVzc3GGtl2TDecup3AXZQLvgPjm0QA From: "Loa, Kanchei" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Nov 2005 19:21:50.0920 (UTC) FILETIME=[2944BC80:01C5EBAC] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests= Cc: Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol Kanchei --------------------------------------------- Kanchei Loa The Boeing Company -----Original Message----- From: Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com [mailto:Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com]=20 Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:13 PM To: capwap@frascone.com Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com; david.kessens@nokia.com; Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new CAPWAP protocol:=20 YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and then evaluate each recommendation separately. =20 Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. =20 Best Regards, Dorothy and Mani =20 _______________________________________________ Capwap mailing list Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Thu Nov 17 15:54:04 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Ecqlg-00088X-Dn for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 15:54:04 -0500 Received: from leela.tigertech.net (leela.tigertech.net [64.71.157.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA20338 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 15:53:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from leela.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0EF9430206 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 12:54:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (hermes.tigertech.net [64.71.157.146]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBBCE430077 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 12:53:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78EA080C240 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 12:53:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from ihemail2.lucent.com (ihemail2.lucent.com [192.11.222.163]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CDA580C218 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 12:53:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from nl0006exch001h.wins.lucent.com (h135-85-76-62.lucent.com [135.85.76.62]) by ihemail2.lucent.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jAHKrGSV028805; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 14:53:16 -0600 (CST) Received: by nl0006exch001h.nl.lucent.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 21:53:14 +0100 Message-ID: <7D5D48D2CAA3D84C813F5B154F43B1550897F01A@nl0006exch001u.nl.lucent.com> From: "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" To: Puneet Agarwal , Pekka Savola , A list for CAPWAP technical discussions Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 21:53:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests= X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com W.r.t. > > I supported LWAPP as a base protocol. However, in light of Pekka's > comment (about RAND being insufficient for open source and free > software), it seems that the group members should really > reconsider the IPR terms for the base CAPWAP protocol. > Everybody, that is every participant in the WG) can take all the IPR information into consideration when expressing his/her YES/NO or his/her support for consensus when the WG chairs poll the WG for such. > It would also help if IETF (WG chairs/AD etc) itself makes a statement > about IETF's commitment (or not) to open source (and the requisite > licensing terms). Maybe it is time for IETF itself to modify/strengthen > it's requirement for IPR. Not all of us are conversant in the > licensing requirements for open-source/free-software. > The IETF has well defined IPR rules/guidelines, and we have stated ptrs to the documents several times. The current data on the table is what we have, and as far as I can tell, the disclosures have done what our rules require. Could they do more? Possibly. But they are not obliged to. We have the facts on the table. Based on that we (WG participants) must make up our mind. If anyone wants the IETF to take a standpoint or to change our current IPR rules, then I would ask those people to go join the IPR WG at ipr-wg@ietf.org mailing list. This WG is not the place to try and change existing IPR rules or guidelines. Bert > Pekka: What licensing terms are the minimal requirements for > open-source/free software? > > Thanks. > > -Puneet > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pekka Savola [mailto:pekkas@netcore.fi] > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 12:07 PM > To: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions > Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP > protocol > > On Wed, 16 Nov 2005, Agcaoili, Philip wrote: > > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. > > I don't know why I'm getting these mails (maybe the list configuration > changed, because I was just on a whilelist before), but in any case... > > NO: a simple "RAND" license is insufficient for open-source and free > software communities. We should not decide on the protocol > before these > are decided; if we do, our "lever" to the IPR holders may diminish. > > B.t.w., the WG charter page's mailing-list archive URL is broken. > > > -----Original Message----- > > At 2005/10/28 16:12, Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com wrote: > > > >> After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft > >> completed by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol > consensus. > >> The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete > >> proposal and should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol > going forward. > >> > >> Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP > as the new > >> CAPWAP protocol: > >> YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > >> NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. > >> > >> The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation > that should > be > >> address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. > These will > be > >> addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG > >> consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the > >> Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the > protcol, and > > >> then evaluate each recommendation separately. > >> > >> Please submit your response to this protocol poll by > Friday, November > >> 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face > >> CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. > >> > >> Best Regards, > >> Dorothy and Mani > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Capwap mailing list > >> Capwap@frascone.com > >> http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/options/capwap/philip.agcaoili%40sci > atl.co > m > > > - - - - - - - Appended by Scientific-Atlanta, Inc. - - - - - - - > This e-mail and any attachments may contain information which is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise protected by law. The information is solely intended for the named addressee (or a person responsible for delivering it to the addressee). 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Martin: A Clash of Kings _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Thu Nov 17 17:14:36 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Ecs1c-0001pU-4a for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 17:14:36 -0500 Received: from leela.tigertech.net (leela.tigertech.net [64.71.157.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA29687 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2005 17:14:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from leela.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F3494301F3 for ; 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charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcXcHYQVzc3GGtl2TDecup3AXZQLvgPjm0QAAAT7YsA= X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.228 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO, NO_REAL_NAME X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Fri Nov 18 11:50:34 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Ed9Ra-0002Tv-6i for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 11:50:34 -0500 Received: from leela.tigertech.net (leela.tigertech.net [64.71.157.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA28219 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 11:49:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from leela.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDBB4300DF for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 08:50:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (hermes.tigertech.net [64.71.157.146]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D8A94300C6 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 08:50:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 978B380C291 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 08:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1.mei.co.jp (smtp.mei.co.jp [133.183.129.25]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4DF580C284 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 08:49:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gw.jp.panasonic.com (dodgers.mei.co.jp [157.8.1.150]) by smtp1.mei.co.jp (8.12.10/3.7W/kings) with ESMTP id jAIGnhlp007444 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 01:49:43 +0900 (JST) Received: by mail-gw.jp.panasonic.com (8.11.6p2/3.7W/somlx1) with ESMTP id jAIGnhm06968 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 01:49:43 +0900 (JST) Received: from pslexc01.psl.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.jp.panasonic.com (8.11.6p2/3.7W/dodgers) with ESMTP id jAIGng729603 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 01:49:42 +0900 (JST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 00:46:52 +0800 Message-ID: <5F09D220B62F79418461A978CA0921BD834786@pslexc01.psl.local> Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Thread-Index: AcXcHYQVzc3GGtl2TDecup3AXZQLvgQQKRFA From: "Cheng Hong" To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.424 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, LWAPP should not be the basis for CAPWAP protocol. Reason: IPR issues, security considerations. There were announcements about the security holes about Cisco's products based on LWAPP protocol. Not sure whether that has been addressed in the LWAPP protocol > -----Original Message----- > From: capwap-admin@frascone.com=20 > [mailto:capwap-admin@frascone.com] On Behalf Of=20 > Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 8:13 AM > To: capwap@frascone.com > Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com;=20 > david.kessens@nokia.com; Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol >=20 >=20 > After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft=20 > completed by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the=20 > protocol consensus. The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP=20 > is the most complete proposal and should be used as the basis=20 > for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. >=20 > Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as=20 > the new CAPWAP protocol:=20 > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. >=20 > The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation=20 > that should be > address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. =20 > These will be > addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves=20 > WG consensus. In order to progress the work, we are=20 > separating the Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree=20 > first on the protcol, and then evaluate each recommendation=20 > separately. =20 >=20 > Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November > 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face > CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. =20 >=20 > Best Regards, > Dorothy and Mani >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 > _______________________________________________ > Capwap mailing list > Capwap@frascone.com > http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap >=20 _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Fri Nov 18 13:21:39 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EdArh-00035c-HS for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 13:21:39 -0500 Received: from leela.tigertech.net (leela.tigertech.net [64.71.157.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA02961 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 13:21:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from leela.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9038A4300A7 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:21:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (hermes.tigertech.net [64.71.157.146]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C804300A7 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:21:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7748180C2BC for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:21:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from pop-sarus.atl.sa.earthlink.net (pop-sarus.atl.sa.earthlink.net [207.69.195.72]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA7180C296 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:21:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.224.40]) by pop-sarus.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1EdAr2-00043K-00; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 13:20:56 -0500 Message-ID: <19779734.1132338056474.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:20:56 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: "Scott G. Kelly" To: Cheng Hong , capwap@frascone.com Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests=RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET X-Spam-Level: *** X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Scott G. Kelly" List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To be clear, the security announcement referred to below has nothing to do with shortcomings in LWAPP security. Rather, it appears to reference an implementation issue in certain Cisco APs which are running in "LWAPP mode" (i.e. being managed by a Cisco WLAN controller rather than being managed individually). Let's not confuse this with LWAPP protocol security. -----Original Message----- From: Cheng Hong Sent: Nov 18, 2005 8:46 AM To: capwap@frascone.com Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol No, LWAPP should not be the basis for CAPWAP protocol. Reason: IPR issues, security considerations. There were announcements about the security holes about Cisco's products based on LWAPP protocol. Not sure whether that has been addressed in the LWAPP protocol > -----Original Message----- > From: capwap-admin@frascone.com > [mailto:capwap-admin@frascone.com] On Behalf Of > Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 8:13 AM > To: capwap@frascone.com > Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com; > david.kessens@nokia.com; Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol > > > After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft > completed by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the > protocol consensus. The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP > is the most complete proposal and should be used as the basis > for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. > > Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as > the new CAPWAP protocol: > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. > > The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation > that should be > address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. > These will be > addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves > WG consensus. In order to progress the work, we are > separating the Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree > first on the protcol, and then evaluate each recommendation > separately. > > Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November > 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face > CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. > > Best Regards, > Dorothy and Mani > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Capwap mailing list > Capwap@frascone.com > http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Fri Nov 18 13:33:28 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EdB3A-0003zS-PS for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 13:33:28 -0500 Received: from leela.tigertech.net (leela.tigertech.net [64.71.157.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA03378 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 13:32:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from leela.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386724301DC for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:33:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (hermes.tigertech.net [64.71.157.146]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F7D4300A2 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:33:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B199E80C204 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:33:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-iport-3.cisco.com (sj-iport-3-in.cisco.com [171.71.176.72]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0664F80C25A for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:33:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com ([171.71.177.237]) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 18 Nov 2005 10:33:01 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,347,1125903600"; d="scan'208"; a="367330306:sNHT22702588" Received: from xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-211.cisco.com [171.70.151.144]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id jAIIX1CN027944; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:33:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.85]) by xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:32:48 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:32:48 -0800 Message-ID: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A2FDA763@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol Thread-Index: AcXcHYQVzc3GGtl2TDecup3AXZQLvgQQKRFAAAKcfzA= From: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" To: "Cheng Hong" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2005 18:32:49.0150 (UTC) FILETIME=[7A4001E0:01C5EC6E] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.374 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Reason: IPR issues, security considerations. There were=20 > announcements about the security holes about Cisco's products=20 > based on LWAPP protocol. > Not sure whether that has been addressed in the LWAPP protocol Had nothing to do with the protocol Pat Calhoun CTO, Wireless Networking Business Unit Cisco Systems _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Fri Nov 18 13:43:25 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EdBCn-0001nJ-2d for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 13:43:25 -0500 Received: from leela.tigertech.net (leela.tigertech.net [64.71.157.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA03809 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 13:42:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from leela.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BABD54301ED for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:43:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (hermes.tigertech.net [64.71.157.146]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC5564300A2 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:42:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B07380C1AA for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:42:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from laser.networkresonance.com (laser.networkresonance.com [198.144.196.2]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC22A80C204 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:42:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from networkresonance.com (raman.networkresonance.com [198.144.196.3]) by laser.networkresonance.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2A622243A for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:42:15 -0800 (PST) To: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailer: MH-E 7.4.3; nmh 1.0.4; XEmacs 21.4 (patch 15) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:42:51 -0800 From: Eric Rescorla Message-Id: <20051118184215.3A2A622243A@laser.networkresonance.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests= Subject: [Capwap] State machine issues with LWAPP over DTLS X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com At the meeting in Vancouver, Sue Hares raised a question regarding state machine coordination between DTLS and LWAPP. I must confess, I didn't really understand what the issue was. Sue, do you think you could explain your concern in a little more detail here? Thanks, -Ekr _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Mon Nov 21 13:03:07 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EeG0Q-000177-Gj for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 13:03:07 -0500 Received: from leela.tigertech.net (leela.tigertech.net [64.71.157.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA19292 for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 13:02:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from leela.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12A934300ED for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 10:03:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (hermes.tigertech.net [64.71.157.146]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC134300AC for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:49:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4278680C18E for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:49:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from gateout02.mbox.net (gateout02.mbox.net [165.212.64.22]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D25480C19F for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:49:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from gateout02.mbox.net (gateout02.mbox.net [165.212.64.22]) by gateout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBBD816397A; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 18:49:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gateout02.mbox.net [127.0.0.1] by gateout02.mbox.net via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.27E) with ESMTP id 025JkPsxZ0406Mo2; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 18:49:26 GMT Received: from gateout02.mbox.net [127.0.0.1] by gateout02.mbox.net via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.27E) with ESMTP id 019JkPsxy0377Mo2; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 18:49:24 GMT X-USANET-Routed: 2 gwsout-vs R:localhost:1825 Received: from gw3.EXCHPROD.USA.NET [165.212.116.254] by gateout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.27I); Wed, 16 Nov 2005 18:49:24 GMT X-USANET-Source: 165.212.116.254 IN skh@nexthop.com gw3.EXCHPROD.USA.NET X-USANET-MsgId: XID554JkPsxy9086Xo2 Received: from VS4.EXCHPROD.USA.NET ([10.116.208.141]) by gw3.EXCHPROD.USA.NET with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:49:21 -0700 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7232.53 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5EADE.74EA0C0F" Subject: RE: [Capwap] CAPWAP and DTLS Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 11:48:33 -0700 Message-ID: <6F44D7F6B24A8F4DA0AB46C9BE924F02022092A1@VS4.EXCHPROD.USA.NET> X-MS-Has-Attach: yes Thread-Topic: [Capwap] CAPWAP and DTLS Thread-Index: AcXq22FJyGkrNcksR1mAlHGMxSJIqAAAqntg From: "Susan Hares" To: "Inderpreet Singh" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Nov 2005 18:49:21.0864 (UTC) FILETIME=[7520A480:01C5EADE] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests=HTML_MESSAGE X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 10:00:39 -0800 X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5EADE.74EA0C0F Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_002_01C5EADE.74EA0C0F" ------_=_NextPart_002_01C5EADE.74EA0C0F Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here's a power point presentation that gives my suggestion "connection" state changes that DTLS draft should Suggest if it is going to be used by the LWAPP. =20 If the key exchange is going to be run over DTLS, more changes need to be added. =20 I promised to send this short info here. =20 Sue =20 _____ =20 From: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com [mailto:capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com] On Behalf Of Inderpreet Singh Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 1:27 PM To: capwap@frascone.com Subject: [Capwap] CAPWAP and DTLS =20 Hi all,=20 I recall at the meeting there was discussion that we would continue a more thorough analysis of the issues with utilizing DTLS for securing the LWAPP control channel (if any) on the email list. Any update or timeframe on that? In addition, we need to close on the choice between=20 1) separate UDP ports for the control and data path=20 2) protocol mux in the headers=20 Much appreciated, thanks=20 ---=20 Inderpreet Singh=20 Chief Architect=20 Chantry Networks Inc., A Siemens Company=20 inderpreet.singh@siemens.com=20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_002_01C5EADE.74EA0C0F Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable CAPWAP and DTLS

Here’s a power point = presentation that gives my suggestion “connection” state changes that = DTLS draft should

Suggest if it is going to be used = by the LWAPP.

 

If the key exchange is going to be = run over DTLS, more changes need to be added.

 

I promised to send this short info = here.

 

Sue

 

From: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com [mailto:capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com] = On Behalf Of Inderpreet Singh
Sent: Wednesday, November = 16, 2005 1:27 PM
To: = capwap@frascone.com
Subject: [Capwap] CAPWAP = and DTLS

 

Hi all,

I recall at the meeting there was discussion that we would continue a more thorough analysis of the issues with utilizing DTLS for securing the = LWAPP control channel (if any) on the email list.  Any update or = timeframe on that?

In addition, we need to close on the choice between
        1) separate UDP ports for = the control and data path
        2) protocol mux in the = headers

Much appreciated, thanks

---
Inderpreet Singh
Chief Architect
Chantry Networks Inc., A Siemens Company =
inderpreet.singh@siemens.com =

 

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issues with LWAPP over DTLS Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 10:51:29 -0700 Message-ID: <6F44D7F6B24A8F4DA0AB46C9BE924F02022EF81A@VS4.EXCHPROD.USA.NET> X-MS-Has-Attach: yes Thread-Topic: [Capwap] State machine issues with LWAPP over DTLS Thread-Index: AcXsb+m/uZjGjjJ9QQq3nXeBf75+LACU3+Zw From: "Susan Hares" To: "Eric Rescorla" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2005 17:51:32.0867 (UTC) FILETIME=[35827530:01C5EEC4] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests= X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 10:00:40 -0800 X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5EEC4.34BC5A6A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ekr: My point is that your draft was not sufficient in it's descriptions. As a friend of my says "I can neither confirm nor deny" whether the DTLS can work. Your draft is insufficient to determine that. My first slide was the text I found in your draft that indicated how you would plug DTLS into LWAPP.=20 I've attached a power point slide. If you are simply using DTLS as transport, your document needs to describe the transitions at the arrows. If you want to support key distribution, please add additional information to the draft.=20 Sue -----Original Message----- From: Eric Rescorla [mailto:ekr@networkresonance.com]=20 Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 1:43 PM To: capwap@frascone.com Subject: [Capwap] State machine issues with LWAPP over DTLS At the meeting in Vancouver, Sue Hares raised a question regarding state machine coordination between DTLS and LWAPP. I must confess, I didn't really understand what the issue was. Sue, do you think you could explain your concern in a little more detail here? 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List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1550514865==" Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1550514865== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090106010905040701080207" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090106010905040701080207 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No. LWAPP shouldnt be the basis for CAPWAP. Sudheer. > -----Original Message----- > From: Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com [mailto:Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com] > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:13 PM > To: capwap@frascone.com > Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com; david.kessens@nokia.com; > Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com > Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol > > > > After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed > by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus. The > evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and > should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward. > > Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new > CAPWAP protocol: > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. > > The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be > address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These will be > addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG > consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the > Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and > then evaluate each recommendation separately. > > Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November > 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face > CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. > > Best Regards, > Dorothy and Mani > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Capwap mailing list > Capwap@frascone.com http://mail.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > --------------090106010905040701080207 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No. LWAPP shouldnt be the basis for CAPWAP.

Sudheer.

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From: Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com [mailto:Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com]
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:13 PM
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Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com; david.kessens@nokia.com;
Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com
Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol



After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft completed
by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol consensus.  The
evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most complete proposal and
should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol going forward.

Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new
CAPWAP protocol:
        YES:  LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or,
         NO:   LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol.

The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should be
address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation.   These will be
addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves WG
consensus.  In order to progress the work, we are separating the
Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and
then evaluate each recommendation separately. 

Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November
4th.   We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face
CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. 

Best Regards,
Dorothy and Mani



 
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--------------090106010905040701080207-- --===============1550514865== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap --===============1550514865==-- From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Mon Nov 21 16:45:22 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EeJTW-00018B-El for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 16:45:22 -0500 Received: from leela.tigertech.net (leela.tigertech.net [64.71.157.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA16309 for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 16:44:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from leela.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 159594300CA for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 13:45:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (hermes.tigertech.net [64.71.157.146]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 659AE430093 for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 13:44:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5735480C18E for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 13:44:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mgw-ext04.nokia.com (mgw-ext04.nokia.com [131.228.20.96]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F74980C1A3 for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 13:44:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from esebh108.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh108.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.143.145]) by mgw-ext04.nokia.com (Switch-3.1.7/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id jALLZok2009020; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 23:35:56 +0200 Received: from daebh101.NOE.Nokia.com ([10.241.35.111]) by esebh108.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 21 Nov 2005 23:40:48 +0200 Received: from mvebe101.NOE.Nokia.com ([172.19.64.23]) by daebh101.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 21 Nov 2005 15:40:46 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7233.31 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 13:40:44 -0800 Message-ID: <893AE265F4ADF94AB7FB26D31A788E41014D9E8D@mvebe101.NOE.Nokia.com> Thread-Topic: Poll for LWAPP is closed. Thread-Index: AcXcHYQVzc3GGtl2TDecup3AXZQLvgSxmLzg From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2005 21:40:46.0199 (UTC) FILETIME=[3B226070:01C5EEE4] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.178 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests=NO_REAL_NAME Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP is closed. X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The LWAPP recommendation poll is now closed. The chairs and the ADs will review responses and arrive at a consensus in the next few days. Thanks for your participation and comments. Dorothy > _____________________________________________=20 > From: Gellert Dorothy (Nokia-ES/MtView) =20 > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:13 PM > To: capwap@frascone.com > Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com; Kessens David > (Nokia-NET/MtView); Gellert Dorothy (Nokia-ES/MtView) > Subject: Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol=20 >=20 >=20 > After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft > completed by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol > consensus. The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most > complete proposal and should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP > protocol going forward. >=20 > Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new > CAPWAP protocol:=20 > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. >=20 > The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should > be address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These > will be addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves > WG consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the > Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and > then evaluate each recommendation separately. =20 >=20 > Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November > 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face > CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. =20 >=20 > Best Regards, > Dorothy and Mani >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Mon Nov 21 20:04:59 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EeMag-00061V-O4 for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:04:58 -0500 Received: from leela.tigertech.net (leela.tigertech.net [64.71.157.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA12002 for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:04:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from leela.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24ED64301B3 for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:04:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (hermes.tigertech.net [64.71.157.146]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4959E4300A9 for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:04:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3755B80C3C9 for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:04:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from tiere.net.avaya.com (tiere.net.avaya.com [198.152.12.100]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABFDD80C7AD for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:02:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from tiere.net.avaya.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiere.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id jAM105QC006395 for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:00:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from cof110avexu1.global.avaya.com (h135-9-6-16.avaya.com [135.9.6.16]) by tiere.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id jAM0wBQC003295 for ; Mon, 21 Nov 2005 19:58:44 -0500 (EST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Capwap] CAPWAP and DTLS Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 18:01:00 -0700 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] CAPWAP and DTLS Thread-Index: AcXq22FJyGkrNcksR1mAlHGMxSJIqAAAqntgAQdNNpA= From: "Mani, Mahalingam (Mahalingam)" To: "Susan Hares" , X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests= X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Susan, Firstly - I am surprised your email made it to the list - considering = your attachment exceeds the maximum size limit (I think it is ~40k). The attachment you have twice posted to the list contain confidentiality = clause in the legend. Should you wish to post material to this WG list do so without any such clauses (refer section 10.2 of RFC2026 at the = minimum). The WG members may very well choose not to view/respond to these two for = this reason. As is the norm in IETF - let's to work with textual figures as much as = possible in this discussion list. In case you feel the required level of detail is compelling enough to = resort to graphic recourse such as this - to expedite discussions in = this instance - I would be glad to to post a PDF / HTML version of this in = the CAPWAP website for WG reference to - if you can come up with a document (without the aforesaid clause). regards, -mani =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ________________________________________ From: Susan Hares [mailto:skh@nexthop.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 10:49 AM To: Inderpreet Singh; capwap@frascone.com Subject: RE: [Capwap] CAPWAP and DTLS Here's a power point presentation that gives my suggestion "connection" = state changes that DTLS draft should Suggest if it is going to be used by the LWAPP. If the key exchange is going to be run over DTLS, more changes need to = be added. I promised to send this short info here. Sue ________________________________________ From: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com = [mailto:capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com] On Behalf Of Inderpreet Singh Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 1:27 PM To: capwap@frascone.com Subject: [Capwap] CAPWAP and DTLS Hi all,=20 I recall at the meeting there was discussion that we would continue a = more thorough analysis of the issues with utilizing DTLS for securing = the LWAPP control channel (if any) on the email list.=A0 Any update or = timeframe on that? In addition, we need to close on the choice between=20 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 1) separate UDP ports for the control and data = path=20 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 2) protocol mux in the headers=20 Much appreciated, thanks=20 ---=20 Inderpreet Singh=20 Chief Architect=20 Chantry Networks Inc., A Siemens Company=20 inderpreet.singh@siemens.com=20 _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Tue Nov 22 10:36:25 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EeaC0-0005wh-SS for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 10:36:25 -0500 Received: from leela.tigertech.net (leela.tigertech.net [64.71.157.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA00938 for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 10:35:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from leela.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FD8A430106 for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 07:36:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (hermes.tigertech.net [64.71.157.146]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6263B430071 for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 07:35:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C30580C166 for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 07:35:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD7880C1AD for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 07:35:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.128.4] (c-24-6-207-154.hsd1.ca.comcast.net[24.6.207.154]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <20051122153525013008ufc1e>; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 15:35:44 +0000 Message-ID: <43833AB8.4050100@hyperthought.com> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 07:35:20 -0800 From: Scott G Kelly User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7-1.1.fc4 (X11/20050929) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Susan Hares Subject: Re: [Capwap] State machine issues with LWAPP over DTLS References: <6F44D7F6B24A8F4DA0AB46C9BE924F02022EF81A@VS4.EXCHPROD.USA.NET> In-Reply-To: <6F44D7F6B24A8F4DA0AB46C9BE924F02022EF81A@VS4.EXCHPROD.USA.NET> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests= Cc: capwap@frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Sue, Comments inline below... Susan Hares wrote: > Ekr: > > My point is that your draft was not sufficient in it's descriptions. > As a friend of my says "I can neither confirm nor deny" whether the DTLS > can work. Your draft is insufficient to determine that. My first > slide was the text I found in your draft that indicated how you would > plug DTLS into LWAPP. The main reason the draft is so sparse is that it was quickly put together very close to the submission deadline prior to the last IETF meeting, which encouraged ...a certain economy (think of it as Hemingway-esque :-)) > I've attached a power point slide. If you are simply using DTLS as > transport, your document needs to describe the transitions at the > arrows. Echoing Mani's comments here, ascii is preferable and sufficient. I had intended to cut, paste, and modify the state diagram from the lwapp draft into the document, but ran out of time. I can add this for clarity. > If you want to support key distribution, please add additional > information to the draft. I'm not sure I understand which keys you are referring to. The keys distribued in your diagram are for the lwapp session itself, and this is taken care of entirely by DTLS as part of the handshake. I think we need to be careful about calling DTLS "a transport" for lwapp. I understand what is meant in one sense, but in another, it seems to imply that lwapp is somehow disjoint (maybe even unaware) of the dtls layer - and this is not my view of how this should work. On the contrary, I think lwapp must be aware of the dtls connection and its properties in order to meet its configured security requirements, and that our choice to use dtls (vs some other internal lwapp security mechanism) should be transparent (as much as possible) to administrators. In this respect, the integration is closer than "transport" would seem to imply. I'll try to spend some time editing over the weekend, and maybe we can submit an update early next week. --Scott > > Sue > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eric Rescorla [mailto:ekr@networkresonance.com] > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 1:43 PM > To: capwap@frascone.com > Subject: [Capwap] State machine issues with LWAPP over DTLS > > At the meeting in Vancouver, Sue Hares raised a question regarding > state machine coordination between DTLS and LWAPP. I must confess, > I didn't really understand what the issue was. Sue, do you think > you could explain your concern in a little more detail here? > > Thanks, > -Ekr > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Tue Nov 22 10:46:51 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EeaM7-0000p5-Al for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 10:46:51 -0500 Received: from leela.tigertech.net (leela.tigertech.net [64.71.157.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA02240 for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 10:46:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from leela.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E018E43012F for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 07:46:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (hermes.tigertech.net [64.71.157.146]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB249430071 for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 07:46:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D067C80C1AD for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 07:46:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from flyer.cs.umd.edu (flyer.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.178]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3652080C1B4 for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 07:46:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from ismene (ismene.cs.umd.edu [128.8.126.62]) by flyer.cs.umd.edu (8.12.11/8.12.5) with ESMTP id jAMFkEke031332; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 10:46:14 -0500 Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 10:45:06 -0500 (EST) From: "T. Charles Clancy" X-X-Sender: clancy@ismene To: Scott G Kelly Subject: Re: [Capwap] State machine issues with LWAPP over DTLS In-Reply-To: <43833AB8.4050100@hyperthought.com> Message-ID: References: <6F44D7F6B24A8F4DA0AB46C9BE924F02022EF81A@VS4.EXCHPROD.USA.NET> <43833AB8.4050100@hyperthought.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests= Cc: capwap@frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com >> If you want to support key distribution, please add additional >> information to the draft. > > I'm not sure I understand which keys you are referring to. The keys > distribued in your diagram are for the lwapp session itself, and this is > taken care of entirely by DTLS as part of the handshake. I think there are a few issues here: 1. Is EAP executed over DTLS 2. Is the 11i four-way handshake executed over DTLS 3. Are TKs distributed to APs over DTLS IMHO, (1) and (2) are simply data packets, and should go over the unencrypted data channels. These packets already have sufficient cryptographic protection, in that they are authentication protocols expected to be executed over a plaintext channel. However (3) is part of the LWAPP control protocol. Thus, it will be going over DTLS. We need to make sure there aren't any security concerns with sending these keys unencrypted (sort of) over DTLS. First of all, if we were going to provide additional crypto, we'd need to get application-layer keys from somewhere. DTLS doesn't provide them, so we'd need to drive them (yuck). Fortunately, I really don't think they're necessary. DTLS provides all the security we need for key transport. As long as we don't treat DTLS as a modular transport layer, we'll be fine. [ t. charles clancy ]--[ tcc@umd.edu ]--[ www.cs.umd.edu/~clancy ] [ computer science ]-----[ university of maryland | college park ] _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Tue Nov 22 15:20:47 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EeedD-0004bx-3n for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 15:20:47 -0500 Received: from leela.tigertech.net (leela.tigertech.net [64.71.157.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA05930 for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 15:20:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from leela.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 837A243016D for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 12:20:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (hermes.tigertech.net [64.71.157.146]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D20A430093 for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 12:20:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 403B380C1F5 for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 12:20:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from tiere.net.avaya.com (tiere.net.avaya.com [198.152.12.100]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C2380C1AF for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 12:19:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from tiere.net.avaya.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiere.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id jAMKGimE003099 for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 15:16:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from cof110avexu1.global.avaya.com (h135-9-6-16.avaya.com [135.9.6.16]) by tiere.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id jAMJeEQC015581 for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 14:41:04 -0500 (EST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Capwap] State machine issues with LWAPP over DTLS Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 12:18:19 -0700 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] State machine issues with LWAPP over DTLS Thread-Index: AcXvfibMhk0VRZZeSue8FfA0CzK5pAABErmA From: "Mani, Mahalingam (Mahalingam)" To: "T. Charles Clancy" , "Scott G Kelly" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests= Cc: capwap@frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cryptographic strength protecting the channel should be higher or equal to the cryptographic strength of the transported key material which 1. in one mode will be the PTKs (where AC performs the 4-way handshake as the NAS) 2. there may be another mode - I am not sure whether it is to be considered - PMK handed down to WTP to engage in 4-way handshake itself. Therefore - the recommended/required DTLS ciphersuite subset will need to be specified accordingly - as per section 3.1 of Scott & Eric's -00 draft. Is that intent going to be elaborated in next revision in section 3.1? It would also be useful (IMHO necessary) to describe CAPWAP behavior in the context of the (in-progress) TGr (802.11r) fast BSS-transition enhancements that impact the (security considerations of) AP-backend considerably. -mani =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D -----Original Message----- From: T. Charles Clancy [mailto:clancy@cs.umd.edu]=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 7:45 AM To: Scott G Kelly Cc: capwap@frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] State machine issues with LWAPP over DTLS >> If you want to support key distribution, please add additional >> information to the draft.=20 > > I'm not sure I understand which keys you are referring to. The keys=20 > distribued in your diagram are for the lwapp session itself, and this is=20 > taken care of entirely by DTLS as part of the handshake. I think there are a few issues here: 1. Is EAP executed over DTLS 2. Is the 11i four-way handshake executed over DTLS 3. Are TKs distributed to APs over DTLS IMHO, (1) and (2) are simply data packets, and should go over the=20 unencrypted data channels. These packets already have sufficient=20 cryptographic protection, in that they are authentication protocols=20 expected to be executed over a plaintext channel. However (3) is part of the LWAPP control protocol. Thus, it will be going=20 over DTLS. We need to make sure there aren't any security concerns with sending these keys unencrypted (sort of) over DTLS. First of all, if we were going to provide additional crypto, we'd need to get=20 application-layer keys from somewhere. DTLS doesn't provide them, so we'd=20 need to drive them (yuck). Fortunately, I really don't think they're=20 necessary. DTLS provides all the security we need for key transport. As=20 long as we don't treat DTLS as a modular transport layer, we'll be fine. [ t. charles clancy ]--[ tcc@umd.edu ]--[ www.cs.umd.edu/~clancy ] [ computer science ]-----[ university of maryland | college park ] _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Wed Nov 23 11:03:32 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Eex5o-0005Yd-Fk for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:03:32 -0500 Received: from leela.tigertech.net (leela.tigertech.net [64.71.157.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA19777 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:02:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from leela.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D003D430199 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:03:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (hermes.tigertech.net [64.71.157.146]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43F44430054 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:03:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2147080C242 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:03:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from circular.cs.umd.edu (circular.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.176]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF0480C246 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:02:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ismene (ismene.cs.umd.edu [128.8.126.62]) by circular.cs.umd.edu (8.12.11/8.12.5) with ESMTP id jANFxpMW007634; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:59:53 -0500 Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:58:42 -0500 (EST) From: "T. Charles Clancy" X-X-Sender: clancy@ismene To: "Mani, Mahalingam (Mahalingam)" Subject: RE: [Capwap] State machine issues with LWAPP over DTLS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests= Cc: capwap@frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Mani, Mahalingam (Mahalingam) wrote: > Cryptographic strength protecting the channel should be higher or equal > to the cryptographic strength of the transported key material which > ... > 2. there may be another mode - I am not sure whether it is to be > considered - PMK handed down to WTP to engage in 4-way handshake itself. This is not a good mode. It prevents secure roaming between APs. If you roam through a compromised AP, that AP would be able to then compromise all your past and future sessions that use the same PMK. You'd have to do a new EAP authentication to get a new PMK at every AP to be secure. > Therefore - the recommended/required DTLS ciphersuite subset will need > to be specified accordingly - as per section 3.1 of Scott & Eric's -00 > draft. Is that intent going to be elaborated in next revision in section > 3.1? Equating ciphersuite security can be a little tricky. For example, the PMK provided by EAP is 256 bits long. It's used to generate either a 128-bit AES key or 256-bit TKIP key. Should the DTLS ciphersuite then be 256-bit secure to cover the TKIP case? If EAP-TLS with 1024-bit RSA certs is used to generate the PMK, the security can be quantified somwhere around 80 bits, so 256 bits is overkill. I guess my suggestion is that we pick a key strength that we thing is sufficient, because we have no way of controlling whether people use 512-bit RSA keys or 8096-bit RSA keys underneath. IMHO, 128-bit security seems reasonable. Supporting 256-bit security would probably be a good thing. Supporting FIPS 140-2 certified ciphersuites would probably also be a good thing. [ t. charles clancy ]--[ tcc@umd.edu ]--[ www.cs.umd.edu/~clancy ] [ computer science ]-----[ university of maryland | college park ] _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Wed Nov 23 11:09:40 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EexBk-0007UZ-BI for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:09:40 -0500 Received: from leela.tigertech.net (leela.tigertech.net [64.71.157.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA20436 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:08:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from leela.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9CB64301A9 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:09:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (hermes.tigertech.net [64.71.157.146]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92859430054 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:09:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84EB180C242 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:09:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from SMTP5.centerbeam.com (smtp5.centerbeam.com [63.120.115.249]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC6680C249 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:08:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from CBA0E2K01.CBA0.centerbeam.com ([64.95.101.24]) by SMTP5.centerbeam.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:08:08 -0800 Received: from CBA0E2K06.CBA0.centerbeam.com ([64.95.101.40]) by CBA0E2K01.CBA0.centerbeam.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:08:19 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Capwap] State machine issues with LWAPP over DTLS Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:08:16 -0800 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] State machine issues with LWAPP over DTLS Thread-Index: AcXvfibMhk0VRZZeSue8FfA0CzK5pAABErmAADCRKiA= From: "Darren Loher" To: "Mani, Mahalingam (Mahalingam)" , "T. Charles Clancy" , "Scott G Kelly" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Nov 2005 16:08:19.0250 (UTC) FILETIME=[1EA70120:01C5F048] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests= Cc: capwap@frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Regarding 802.11r interactions, would it be appropriate at this point to first finish a satisfactory mapping of DTLS to LWAPP? =20 Then LWAPP could be updated with a description of behavior plus changes (if any) for LWAPP to support 802.11r. =20 -Darren > -----Original Message----- > From: Mani, Mahalingam (Mahalingam) [mailto:mmani@avaya.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 12:18 PM > To: T. Charles Clancy; Scott G Kelly > Cc: capwap@frascone.com > Subject: RE: [Capwap] State machine issues with LWAPP over DTLS >=20 > Cryptographic strength protecting the channel should be higher or equal > to the cryptographic strength of the transported key material which >=20 > 1. in one mode will be the PTKs (where AC performs the 4-way handshake > as the NAS) > 2. there may be another mode - I am not sure whether it is to be > considered - PMK handed down to WTP to engage in 4-way handshake itself. >=20 > Therefore - the recommended/required DTLS ciphersuite subset will need > to be specified accordingly - as per section 3.1 of Scott & Eric's -00 > draft. Is that intent going to be elaborated in next revision in section > 3.1? >=20 > It would also be useful (IMHO necessary) to describe CAPWAP behavior in > the context of the (in-progress) TGr (802.11r) fast BSS-transition > enhancements that impact the (security considerations of) AP-backend > considerably. >=20 > -mani > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > -----Original Message----- > From: T. Charles Clancy [mailto:clancy@cs.umd.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 7:45 AM > To: Scott G Kelly > Cc: capwap@frascone.com > Subject: Re: [Capwap] State machine issues with LWAPP over DTLS >=20 > >> If you want to support key distribution, please add additional > >> information to the draft. > > > > I'm not sure I understand which keys you are referring to. The keys > > distribued in your diagram are for the lwapp session itself, and this > is > > taken care of entirely by DTLS as part of the handshake. >=20 > I think there are a few issues here: >=20 > 1. Is EAP executed over DTLS > 2. Is the 11i four-way handshake executed over DTLS > 3. Are TKs distributed to APs over DTLS >=20 > IMHO, (1) and (2) are simply data packets, and should go over the > unencrypted data channels. These packets already have sufficient > cryptographic protection, in that they are authentication protocols > expected to be executed over a plaintext channel. >=20 > However (3) is part of the LWAPP control protocol. Thus, it will be > going > over DTLS. We need to make sure there aren't any security concerns with >=20 > sending these keys unencrypted (sort of) over DTLS. First of all, if we >=20 > were going to provide additional crypto, we'd need to get > application-layer keys from somewhere. DTLS doesn't provide them, so > we'd > need to drive them (yuck). Fortunately, I really don't think they're > necessary. DTLS provides all the security we need for key transport. > As > long as we don't treat DTLS as a modular transport layer, we'll be fine. >=20 > [ t. charles clancy ]--[ tcc@umd.edu ]--[ www.cs.umd.edu/~clancy ] > [ computer science ]-----[ university of maryland | college park ] > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap >=20 >=20 > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Wed Nov 23 11:42:03 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Eexh2-00028o-Os for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:42:03 -0500 Received: from leela.tigertech.net (leela.tigertech.net [64.71.157.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA24328 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:41:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from leela.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 612DD4300DC for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:41:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (hermes.tigertech.net [64.71.157.146]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5801343006D for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:41:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FDEB80C33C for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:41:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from pop-knobcone.atl.sa.earthlink.net (pop-knobcone.atl.sa.earthlink.net [207.69.195.64]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7973580C333 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:40:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.224.49]) by pop-knobcone.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1EexaC-0005AF-00; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:34:56 -0500 Message-ID: <10289549.1132763696117.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:34:56 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: "Scott G. Kelly" To: "T. Charles Clancy" , "Mani,Mahalingam (Mahalingam)" Subject: RE: [Capwap] State machine issues with LWAPP over DTLS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests= Cc: capwap@frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Scott G. Kelly" List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > T. Charles Clancy wrote: > > On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Mani, Mahalingam (Mahalingam) wrote: > >> Cryptographic strength protecting the channel should be higher or equal >> to the cryptographic strength of the transported key material which >> ... >> 2. there may be another mode - I am not sure whether it is to be >> considered - PMK handed down to WTP to engage in 4-way handshake itself. > > This is not a good mode. It prevents secure roaming between APs. If you > roam through a compromised AP, that AP would be able to then compromise > all your past and future sessions that use the same PMK. You'd have to do > a new EAP authentication to get a new PMK at every AP to be secure. > >> Therefore - the recommended/required DTLS ciphersuite subset will need >> to be specified accordingly - as per section 3.1 of Scott & Eric's -00 >> draft. Is that intent going to be elaborated in next revision in section >> 3.1? > > Equating ciphersuite security can be a little tricky. For example, the > PMK provided by EAP is 256 bits long. It's used to generate either a > 128-bit AES key or 256-bit TKIP key. Should the DTLS ciphersuite then be > 256-bit secure to cover the TKIP case? If EAP-TLS with 1024-bit RSA certs > is used to generate the PMK, the security can be quantified somwhere > around 80 bits, so 256 bits is overkill. > > I guess my suggestion is that we pick a key strength that we thing is > sufficient, because we have no way of controlling whether people use > 512-bit RSA keys or 8096-bit RSA keys underneath. IMHO, 128-bit security > seems reasonable. Supporting 256-bit security would probably be a good > thing. Supporting FIPS 140-2 certified ciphersuites would probably also > be a good thing. > I agree with Charles. I think the best we can do is choose good defaults, have support for algorithms judged "adequate" with respect to key lengths vs cryptographic strength, and add some informative language to the security considerations sections. Scott _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Wed Nov 23 12:30:24 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EeyRr-0004Ko-Kp for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 12:30:24 -0500 Received: from leela.tigertech.net (leela.tigertech.net [64.71.157.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA01094 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 12:29:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from leela.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C726D430124 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:30:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (hermes.tigertech.net [64.71.157.146]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B07430071 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:29:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C68C80C447 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:29:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from tiere.net.avaya.com (tiere.net.avaya.com [198.152.12.100]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4474980C3C6 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:26:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from tiere.net.avaya.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiere.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id jANHO0lY018505 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 12:24:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from cof110avexu1.global.avaya.com (h135-9-6-16.avaya.com [135.9.6.16]) by tiere.net.avaya.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id jANHMllY015823 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 12:23:47 -0500 (EST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Capwap] State machine issues with LWAPP over DTLS Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:23:34 -0700 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] State machine issues with LWAPP over DTLS Thread-Index: AcXvfibMhk0VRZZeSue8FfA0CzK5pAABErmAADCRKiAAAP+e0A== From: "Mani, Mahalingam (Mahalingam)" To: "Darren Loher" , "T. Charles Clancy" , "Scott G Kelly" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests= Cc: capwap@frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not sure whether it needs to be serialized. Perhaps it does. -mani =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D -----Original Message----- From: Darren Loher [mailto:DLoher@rovingplanet.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 8:08 AM To: Mani, Mahalingam (Mahalingam); T. Charles Clancy; Scott G Kelly Cc: capwap@frascone.com Subject: RE: [Capwap] State machine issues with LWAPP over DTLS Regarding 802.11r interactions, would it be appropriate at this point to first finish a satisfactory mapping of DTLS to LWAPP? =20 Then LWAPP could be updated with a description of behavior plus changes (if any) for LWAPP to support 802.11r. =20 -Darren > -----Original Message----- > From: Mani, Mahalingam (Mahalingam) [mailto:mmani@avaya.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 12:18 PM > To: T. Charles Clancy; Scott G Kelly > Cc: capwap@frascone.com > Subject: RE: [Capwap] State machine issues with LWAPP over DTLS >=20 > Cryptographic strength protecting the channel should be higher or equal > to the cryptographic strength of the transported key material which >=20 > 1. in one mode will be the PTKs (where AC performs the 4-way handshake > as the NAS) > 2. there may be another mode - I am not sure whether it is to be > considered - PMK handed down to WTP to engage in 4-way handshake itself. >=20 > Therefore - the recommended/required DTLS ciphersuite subset will need > to be specified accordingly - as per section 3.1 of Scott & Eric's -00 > draft. Is that intent going to be elaborated in next revision in section > 3.1? >=20 > It would also be useful (IMHO necessary) to describe CAPWAP behavior in > the context of the (in-progress) TGr (802.11r) fast BSS-transition > enhancements that impact the (security considerations of) AP-backend > considerably. >=20 > -mani > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > -----Original Message----- > From: T. Charles Clancy [mailto:clancy@cs.umd.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 7:45 AM > To: Scott G Kelly > Cc: capwap@frascone.com > Subject: Re: [Capwap] State machine issues with LWAPP over DTLS >=20 > >> If you want to support key distribution, please add additional > >> information to the draft. > > > > I'm not sure I understand which keys you are referring to. The keys > > distribued in your diagram are for the lwapp session itself, and this > is > > taken care of entirely by DTLS as part of the handshake. >=20 > I think there are a few issues here: >=20 > 1. Is EAP executed over DTLS > 2. Is the 11i four-way handshake executed over DTLS > 3. Are TKs distributed to APs over DTLS >=20 > IMHO, (1) and (2) are simply data packets, and should go over the > unencrypted data channels. These packets already have sufficient > cryptographic protection, in that they are authentication protocols > expected to be executed over a plaintext channel. >=20 > However (3) is part of the LWAPP control protocol. Thus, it will be > going > over DTLS. We need to make sure there aren't any security concerns with >=20 > sending these keys unencrypted (sort of) over DTLS. First of all, if we >=20 > were going to provide additional crypto, we'd need to get > application-layer keys from somewhere. DTLS doesn't provide them, so > we'd > need to drive them (yuck). Fortunately, I really don't think they're > necessary. DTLS provides all the security we need for key transport. > As > long as we don't treat DTLS as a modular transport layer, we'll be fine. >=20 > [ t. charles clancy ]--[ tcc@umd.edu ]--[ www.cs.umd.edu/~clancy ] > [ computer science ]-----[ university of maryland | college park ] > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap >=20 >=20 > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Wed Nov 23 13:54:24 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Eezl9-0001lt-Rg for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 13:54:24 -0500 Received: from leela.tigertech.net (leela.tigertech.net [64.71.157.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA10997 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 13:53:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from leela.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD6D4301B9 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:54:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (hermes.tigertech.net [64.71.157.146]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1441430071 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:53:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A73D80C21E for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:53:52 -0800 (PST) X-Greylist-Status: Sender first seen 01:57:46 ago Received: from typhoon.trangosoft.com (unknown [209.82.51.154]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE2180C32B for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:52:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from phantom-out.trangosoft.com ([136.157.233.22]) by 136.157.233.32 with trend_isnt_name_B; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:52:30 -0500 Received: from troll3.trangosoft.com (unknown [136.157.233.13]) by phantom-out.trangosoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6FAB25036; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:43:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by troll3.trangosoft.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:44:37 -0500 Message-ID: <1652EBA28502ED4393B9BC9B8A4B601343F4EB@mism121a.toronto.chantrynetworks.com> From: Michael Montemurro To: Darren Loher , "Mani, Mahalingam (Mahalingam)" , "T. Charles Clancy" , Scott G Kelly Subject: RE: [Capwap] State machine issues with LWAPP over DTLS Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:51:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.024 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests=RCVD_BY_IP Cc: capwap@frascone.com X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com I think the draft and presentation were a good start on looking at how to apply DTLS to a CAPWAP protocol. Here is my view on what needs to be done next: 1) The current requirement for CAPWAP encryption on the control channel, not the data channel. I think a bit more work needs to be done to clarify how DTLS can be used to encrypt this control channel. In my mind, some of the issues that need to be resolved are: a) What does the Discovery and Join mechanism look like with DTLS? b) What do the frame formats look like? Both the encrypted control channel and unencrypted data channel. 2) Define positive and negative of Discovery/Join use cases and show how DTLS will hold together. 3) Establish if data encryption on the data channel is necessary. If it is, how should it be done? My preference would be to treat the 802.11i and 802.11r issues independently. There is already a proposed solution for how keys are exchanged as part of the CAPWAP protocol, provided by LWAPP. We need to establish that what's defined now is suffient for CAPWAP. 802.11r is in the process of defining requirements for the protocol for exchanging keys between "key holders". Perhaps we could look at these requirements to determine what would have to be done to address an 802.11r solution. Cheers, Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: Darren Loher [mailto:DLoher@rovingplanet.com] > Sent: November 23, 2005 11:08 AM > To: Mani, Mahalingam (Mahalingam); T. Charles Clancy; Scott G Kelly > Cc: capwap@frascone.com > Subject: RE: [Capwap] State machine issues with LWAPP over DTLS > > Regarding 802.11r interactions, would it be appropriate at > this point to first finish a satisfactory mapping of DTLS to LWAPP? > > Then LWAPP could be updated with a description of behavior > plus changes (if any) for LWAPP to support 802.11r. > > -Darren > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mani, Mahalingam (Mahalingam) [mailto:mmani@avaya.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 12:18 PM > > To: T. Charles Clancy; Scott G Kelly > > Cc: capwap@frascone.com > > Subject: RE: [Capwap] State machine issues with LWAPP over DTLS > > > > Cryptographic strength protecting the channel should be higher or > equal > > to the cryptographic strength of the transported key material which > > > > 1. in one mode will be the PTKs (where AC performs the > 4-way handshake > > as the NAS) 2. there may be another mode - I am not sure > whether it is > > to be considered - PMK handed down to WTP to engage in > 4-way handshake > itself. > > > > Therefore - the recommended/required DTLS ciphersuite > subset will need > > to be specified accordingly - as per section 3.1 of Scott & > Eric's -00 > > draft. Is that intent going to be elaborated in next revision in > section > > 3.1? > > > > It would also be useful (IMHO necessary) to describe CAPWAP behavior > in > > the context of the (in-progress) TGr (802.11r) fast BSS-transition > > enhancements that impact the (security considerations of) > AP-backend > > considerably. > > > > -mani > > ====== > > -----Original Message----- > > From: T. Charles Clancy [mailto:clancy@cs.umd.edu] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 7:45 AM > > To: Scott G Kelly > > Cc: capwap@frascone.com > > Subject: Re: [Capwap] State machine issues with LWAPP over DTLS > > > > >> If you want to support key distribution, please add additional > > >> information to the draft. > > > > > > I'm not sure I understand which keys you are referring > to. The keys > > > distribued in your diagram are for the lwapp session itself, and > this > > is > > > taken care of entirely by DTLS as part of the handshake. > > > > I think there are a few issues here: > > > > 1. Is EAP executed over DTLS > > 2. Is the 11i four-way handshake executed over DTLS 3. Are TKs > > distributed to APs over DTLS > > > > IMHO, (1) and (2) are simply data packets, and should go over the > > unencrypted data channels. These packets already have sufficient > > cryptographic protection, in that they are authentication protocols > > expected to be executed over a plaintext channel. > > > > However (3) is part of the LWAPP control protocol. Thus, > it will be > > going over DTLS. We need to make sure there aren't any security > > concerns > with > > > > sending these keys unencrypted (sort of) over DTLS. First > of all, if > we > > > > were going to provide additional crypto, we'd need to get > > application-layer keys from somewhere. DTLS doesn't > provide them, so > > we'd need to drive them (yuck). Fortunately, I really don't think > > they're necessary. DTLS provides all the security we need for key > > transport. > > As > > long as we don't treat DTLS as a modular transport layer, we'll be > fine. > > > > [ t. charles clancy ]--[ tcc@umd.edu ]--[ > www.cs.umd.edu/~clancy ] [ > > computer science ]-----[ university of maryland | college park ] > > _________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap From poden@elema.siemens.se Thu Nov 24 08:49:58 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EfHU6-0000Vg-5p; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 08:49:58 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id IAA01811; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 08:49:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from dslb-084-061-045-116.pools.arcor-ip.net ([84.61.45.116]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EfHn5-0006JJ-3k; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 09:09:40 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.6] ([84.61.45.116]) by hotmail.com (Sendmail 8.7.1) with ESMTP (SSL) id IYT14311 for ; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 07:49:33 -0600 Message-ID: <555h358x.7540380@hotmail.com> DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=debrief; d=hotmail.com; b=JRO26wlIuHbLLZ7Rv5UO9gk3x60AAFOgzqAB8dTSJ6ZLFV8gl9o9dnJaozPHSmvdpFVHW6QaC0eV02hw; X-Display: Full X-List: mycology.usenet Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 07:49:33 -0600 From: "Judy Boggs" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bofchairs@ietf.org Cc: bounces-ietf@ietf.org, bpana@ietf.org, brenton.daniels@ietf.org, bridge-mib@ietf.org, bridge-mib-admin@ietf.org, business@ietf.org, calsch@ietf.org, cancer@ietf.org, capwap-archive@ietf.org, ccips@ietf.org, cclark@ietf.org, cdi-archive@ietf.org Subject: Notification: Loww ratess Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------AttPart_44209467==.OLA" X-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) X-Scan-Signature: ee80a2074afbfe28d15369f4e74e579d This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------AttPart_44209467==.OLA Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 09:12:13 -0700 Message-ID: Thread-Topic: IEEE 802.11 Liaison Request - Comments on IEEE 802.11u requirements Thread-Index: AcXwl/OKNeAwR9YNQ0mpFjBP2SnbmADkflyQAAJjkeAAMJMTEA== From: "Mani, Mahalingam (Mahalingam)" To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests= Subject: [Capwap] FW: IEEE 802.11 Liaison Request - Comments on IEEE 802.11u requirements X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The IETF (specifically IETF CAPWAP, DNA, EAP, MIPSHOP, IRTF Mobopts) has received a liaison request from IEEE802.11 to review IEEE802.11u Task Group requirements document. The document for review is placed in: http://www.capwap.org/ieee11-2005/ (http://www.capwap.org/ieee11-2005/11-05-0822-03-000u-tgu-requirements.d oc). The other document (which will be eventually in IETF liaison statement area) is the liaison request. The 802.11u TG's purpose: "To provide amendments to the IEEE 802.11 PHY/MAC layers which enable InterWorking with other networks. This includes both enhanced protocol exchanges across the air interface and provision of primitives to support required interactions with higher layers for InterWorking." The detailed charter of 802.11u task group can be viewed at: http://www.ieee802.org/11/ -> Group Updates -> Task Groups -> Task Group U Do send any Review comments to the list. Any specific questions may also be sent to Stephen McCann (TGu chair) or Dorothy Stanley (IEEE liaison). thanks, -mani =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Tue Nov 29 16:06:52 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EhCgd-0006Zs-QU for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:06:52 -0500 Received: from leela.tigertech.net (leela.tigertech.net [64.71.157.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA07596 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:05:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from leela.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42CD0430105 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 13:06:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (hermes.tigertech.net [64.71.157.146]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68A9C43006B for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 13:06:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BFDA80C142 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 13:06:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from gateout02.mbox.net (gateout02.mbox.net [165.212.64.22]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E35880C135 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 13:06:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from gateout02.mbox.net (gateout02.mbox.net [165.212.64.22]) by gateout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4322E163750; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:06:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gateout02.mbox.net [127.0.0.1] by gateout02.mbox.net via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.27E) with ESMTP id 018JkCVgL0481Mo2; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:06:12 GMT Received: from gateout02.mbox.net [127.0.0.1] by gateout02.mbox.net via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.27E) with ESMTP id 012JkCVgJ0257Mo2; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:06:09 GMT X-USANET-Routed: 2 gwsout-vs R:localhost:1825 Received: from gw2.EXCHPROD.USA.NET [165.212.116.254] by gateout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.27I); Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:06:09 GMT X-USANET-Source: 165.212.116.254 IN skh@nexthop.com gw2.EXCHPROD.USA.NET X-USANET-MsgId: XID340JkCVgJ9303Xo2 Received: from VS4.EXCHPROD.USA.NET ([10.116.208.141]) by gw2.EXCHPROD.USA.NET with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 29 Nov 2005 14:06:09 -0700 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7232.53 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP is closed. Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 14:06:09 -0700 Message-ID: <6F44D7F6B24A8F4DA0AB46C9BE924F0202473DA3@VS4.EXCHPROD.USA.NET> Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP is closed. Thread-Index: AcXcHYQVzc3GGtl2TDecup3AXZQLvgSxmLzgAZEvfSA= From: "Susan Hares" To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Nov 2005 21:06:09.0320 (UTC) FILETIME=[B885CA80:01C5F528] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests= X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dorothy: What's the ETA on the consensus on the response?=20 Sue -----Original Message----- From: Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com [mailto:Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com]=20 Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 4:41 PM To: capwap@frascone.com Subject: [Capwap] Poll for LWAPP is closed. The LWAPP recommendation poll is now closed. The chairs and the ADs will review responses and arrive at a consensus in the next few days. Thanks for your participation and comments. Dorothy > _____________________________________________=20 > From: Gellert Dorothy (Nokia-ES/MtView) =20 > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:13 PM > To: capwap@frascone.com > Cc: bwijnen@lucent.com; mmani@avaya.com; Kessens David > (Nokia-NET/MtView); Gellert Dorothy (Nokia-ES/MtView) > Subject: Poll for LWAPP as the basis for the CAPWAP protocol=20 >=20 >=20 > After many weeks of discussion on the CAPWAP evaluation draft > completed by the eval team its time to poll the WG on the protocol > consensus. The evaluation team concluded that LWAPP is the most > complete proposal and should be used as the basis for the CAPWAP > protocol going forward. >=20 > Please respond to this email indicating support for LWAPP as the new > CAPWAP protocol:=20 > YES: LWAPP should be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol or, > NO: LWAPP should not be the basis of the CAPWAP protocol. >=20 > The evaluation has also raised a number of recommendation that should > be address by the WG on top of the protocol recommendation. These > will be addressed by the WG and applied to the protocol that achieves > WG consensus. In order to progress the work, we are separating the > Evaluation's team proposal so that we agree first on the protcol, and > then evaluate each recommendation separately. =20 >=20 > Please submit your response to this protocol poll by Friday, November > 4th. We will discuss the results of the poll at the face to face > CAPWAP WG meeting on Monday, November 7th. =20 >=20 > Best Regards, > Dorothy and Mani >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Tue Nov 29 18:06:30 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EhEYO-0004TS-VE for capwap-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:06:30 -0500 Received: from leela.tigertech.net (leela.tigertech.net [64.71.157.130]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA22392 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:05:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from leela.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3B7643010D for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 15:06:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (hermes.tigertech.net [64.71.157.146]) by leela.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D25430104 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 15:05:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D74A80C159 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 15:05:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from gateout02.mbox.net (gateout02.mbox.net [165.212.64.22]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB7A480C181 for ; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 15:05:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from gateout02.mbox.net (gateout02.mbox.net [165.212.64.22]) by gateout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D97163DC5; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 23:05:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gateout02.mbox.net [127.0.0.1] by gateout02.mbox.net via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.27E) with ESMTP id 071JkCXFE0304Mo2; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 23:05:31 GMT Received: from gateout02.mbox.net [127.0.0.1] by gateout02.mbox.net via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.27E) with ESMTP id 067JkCXFd0067Mo2; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 23:05:29 GMT X-USANET-Routed: 2 gwsout-vs R:localhost:1825 Received: from GW1.EXCHPROD.USA.NET [165.212.116.254] by gateout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.27I); Tue, 29 Nov 2005 23:05:29 GMT X-USANET-Source: 165.212.116.254 IN skh@nexthop.com GW1.EXCHPROD.USA.NET X-USANET-MsgId: XID644JkCXFd9479Xo2 Received: from VS4.EXCHPROD.USA.NET ([10.116.208.141]) by GW1.EXCHPROD.USA.NET with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:05:29 -0700 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7232.53 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5F539.63902948" Subject: FW: [Capwap] CAPWAP and DTLS Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:05:26 -0700 Message-ID: <6F44D7F6B24A8F4DA0AB46C9BE924F02024DB5DB@VS4.EXCHPROD.USA.NET> X-MS-Has-Attach: yes Thread-Topic: [Capwap] CAPWAP and DTLS Thread-Index: AcXq22FJyGkrNcksR1mAlHGMxSJIqAAAqntgAQdNNpABitK4oAAEolpw From: "Susan Hares" To: , "Mani, Mahalingam (Mahalingam)" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Nov 2005 23:05:29.0223 (UTC) FILETIME=[64284970:01C5F539] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tigertech.net X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests= X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5F539.63902948 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mani: 2nd attempt. Zip file only contains the pdf for the power point.=20 Hope this clears up any confusion. sue -----Original Message----- From:=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 3:58 PM To: 'Mani, Mahalingam (Mahalingam)'; capwap@frascone.com Cc: dorothy.gellert@nokia.com Subject: RE: [Capwap] CAPWAP and DTLS Mani: I forwarded this power point as additional information provided from CAPWAP discussion at IETF 64.=20 1st - let me ask if zip files work. =20 I'm resending this one as ppt and pdf.=20 2nd - Textual figures are usually used in the documents for IETF. I believe you will find that the original portion of the=20 Presentation was in text based on the LWAPP State Machine. 3rd - State machines usually require detail. =20 Good state machine detail usually aids in inter-operability detail. I've attached both the power point and PDF. Post what you will where you will (your choice as chair.) 4th - the Author responded on list and will produce another document. Any questions?=20 Sue=20 =09 -----Original Message----- From: Mani, Mahalingam (Mahalingam) [mailto:mmani@avaya.com]=20 Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 8:01 PM To: Susan Hares; capwap@frascone.com Cc: dorothy.gellert@nokia.com Subject: RE: [Capwap] CAPWAP and DTLS Susan, Firstly - I am surprised your email made it to the list - considering = your attachment exceeds the maximum size limit (I think it is ~40k). The attachment you have twice posted to the list contain confidentiality = clause in the legend. Should you wish to post material to this WG list do so without any such clauses (refer section 10.2 of RFC2026 at the = minimum). The WG members may very well choose not to view/respond to these two for = this reason. As is the norm in IETF - let's to work with textual figures as much as = possible in this discussion list. In case you feel the required level of detail is compelling enough to = resort to graphic recourse such as this - to expedite discussions in = this instance - I would be glad to to post a PDF / HTML version of this in = the CAPWAP website for WG reference to - if you can come up with a document (without the aforesaid clause). regards, -mani =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ________________________________________ From: Susan Hares [mailto:skh@nexthop.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 10:49 AM To: Inderpreet Singh; capwap@frascone.com Subject: RE: [Capwap] CAPWAP and DTLS Here's a power point presentation that gives my suggestion "connection" = state changes that DTLS draft should Suggest if it is going to be used by the LWAPP. If the key exchange is going to be run over DTLS, more changes need to = be added. I promised to send this short info here. Sue ________________________________________ From: capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com = [mailto:capwap-admin@lists.frascone.com] On Behalf Of Inderpreet Singh Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 1:27 PM To: capwap@frascone.com Subject: [Capwap] CAPWAP and DTLS Hi all,=20 I recall at the meeting there was discussion that we would continue a = more thorough analysis of the issues with utilizing DTLS for securing = the LWAPP control channel (if any) on the email list.=A0 Any update or = timeframe on that? 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