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Protocol Overview [...] When the WTP and AC have completed the version and provision exchange and the WTP is enabled, the CAPWAP protocol is used to encapsulate the wireless data frames sent between the WTP and AC. The CAPWAP protocol will fragment the L2 frames if the size of the encapsulated wireless user data (Data) or protocol control (Management) frames causes the resulting CAPWAP protocol packet to exceed the MTU supported between the WTP and AC. Fragmented CAPWAP packets are reassembled to reconstitute the original encapsulated payload. MTU Discovery and Fragmentation is described in section 3. 2.3.2.1. CAPWAP to DTLS Commands [...] o DTLSMtuUpdate is sent by the CAPWAP component to modify the MTU size used by the DTLS component. See Section 3.5 for more information on MTU Discovery. The default size is 1468 bytes. 2.4.3. DTLS Error Handling [...] There is currently only one encapsulation error defined: MTU exceeded. As part of DTLS session establishment, the CAPWAP component informs the DTLS component of the MTU size. This may be dynamically modified at any time when the CAPWAP component sends the DTLSMtuUpdate command to the DTLS component (see Section 2.3.2.1). The value provided to the DTLS stack is the result of the MTU Discovery process, which is described in Section 3.5. The DTLS component returns this notification to the CAPWAP component whenever a transmission request will result in a packet which exceeds the MTU. 3.5. MTU Discovery Once a WTP has discovered the AC it wishes to establish a CAPWAP session with, it SHOULD perform a Path MTU (PMTU) discovery. The MTU discovered is used to configure the DTLS component (see Section 2.3.2.1), while non-DTLS frames need to be fragmented to fit the MTU, defined in Section 3.4. The procedures described in [14], for IPv4, or [15], for IPv6 SHOULD be used. 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I sould have said RFC 1191 and 1981, which specify ICMP-based Path MTU Discovery for IP versions 4 and 6, respectively. PatC -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Wasserman [mailto:margaret@thingmagic.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 6:50 AM To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) Cc: capwap@frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 3: MTU Discovery Requirement What would it mean to state that MTU discovery must be performed using ICMP? Is there a particular mechanism we'd reference? Margaret On Oct 12, 2007, at 2:40 PM, Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) wrote: > This issue argues that CAPWAP needs to adopt an MTU discovery > mechanism, similar to that described in RFC 4821. 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PatC -----Original Message----- From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 1:39 PM To: capwap Subject: [Capwap] CAPWAP Session Establishment Overview is incomplete All, The message example provided in section 2.2 is incomplete as it does not include the Change State Event Request/Response. I have created issue 21. 2.2. 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header.From=pcalhoun@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim2002 verified; ); X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-26) on hgblob X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 tagged_above=-999.0 required=7.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [Capwap] Use of NeighborDead timer with Echo X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: bb8f917bb6b8da28fc948aeffb74aa17 I am closing this issue since there was no comment on the recommendation to remove the unneeded timer. PatC -----Original Message----- From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 1:32 PM To: capwap Subject: [Capwap] Use of NeighborDead timer with Echo All, The current text reads that when an Echo request is transmitted, the NeighborDead timer is set. This doesn't seem to make sense, since the Echo Request would be retransmitted just as any other control message. So it seems like we should rely on the existing retransmission mechanisms built into the control protocol and not require another timer. Objections? Issue 20 created to track. PatC _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Fri Nov 16 18:14:13 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ItAO5-0007Jr-NS for capwap-archive@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:14:13 -0500 Received: from mx2.tigertech.net ([64.62.209.32]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ItAO1-0006Pi-Sc for capwap-archive@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:14:13 -0500 Received: from fry.tigertech.net (fry.tigertech.net [64.62.209.19]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71EAA1843272 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:14:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.tigertech.net (mx2.tigertech.net [64.62.209.32]) by fry.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD354A4034 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:14:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFBD11840723 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:14:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C232184073C for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:14:01 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:13:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-dkim-3.cisco.com ([171.71.179.195]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 Nov 2007 15:13:59 -0800 Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com (sj-core-2.cisco.com [171.71.177.254]) by sj-dkim-3.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lAGNDxTs016081 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:13:59 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-221.cisco.com [128.107.191.63]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id lAGNDx40018850 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:13:59 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.85]) by xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:13:59 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:13:59 -0800 Message-ID: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A204C0B664@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: New Issue: Data Check has no timeout on AC Thread-Index: Acgopl5KK5BRzB0PQDOGEqBvKWQ9xg== From: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" To: "capwap" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Nov 2007 23:13:59.0515 (UTC) FILETIME=[5E7F6AB0:01C828A6] Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-3; header.From=pcalhoun@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim3002 verified; ); X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-26) on hermes X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 tagged_above=-999.0 required=7.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS X-Spam-Level: Subject: [Capwap] New Issue: Data Check has no timeout on AC X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 5ebbf074524e58e662bc8209a6235027 All, While removing the NeighborDead timer, I notice that it was incorrectly used while in the Data Check mode by the AC. Interestingly enough, the timer was actually incorrect since the description of the timer was only valid for Echo Requests, and only by the WTP. So I had to create a new timer, and a new state transition to allow for this state to timeout. The issue is that when the AC enters the Data Check state, it needs to have a fail safe if the WTP doesn't transmit close the loop. So the new text requires that the AC set the timer when it enters the Data Check state, and it disables the timer if the WTP doesn't transmit the Data Channel Keep Alive packet. I also added text to have the AC disable the timer if it does receive the packet from the WTP. Here is the proposed text: 2.3. CAPWAP State Machine Definition [...] /-------------------------------------\ | /-------------------------\| | w| || | 5+----------+ x +------------+ || | | Run |-->| Reset |-\|| | +----------+ +------------+ ||| 6| u ^ ^ ^ y||| +------------+--------/ | | ||| | Data Check | /-------/ | ||| +------------+<-------\ | | ||| | | | ||| /------------------+--------\ | ||| r| t| s| 4 v o| ||| +--------+ +-----------+ +--------------+||| | Join |---->| Configure | | Image Data |||| +--------+ q +-----------+ +--------------+||| ^ p| V| x| ||| | | \-------------------\ | ||| | \--------------------------------------\| | ||| \------------------------\ || | ||| /--------------<----------------+--------------\ || | ||| | /------------<-------------\ | | || | ||| | | m| |n z| vv v vvv | | +----------------+ +--------------+ +-----------+ | | | DTLS Setup | | DTLS Connect | | DTLS TD | | | +----------------+ +--------------+ +-----------+ | | g| ^ ^ |h ^ ^ v v | | | | | | | | | | | \-------\ | /-----------/ | | | | | | | | | | v |e f| 2 v |j |k | \->+------+ +------+ +-----------+ | | Idle |-->| Disc | | Authorize | \--->+------+ a +------+ +-----------+ b| ^ |c | | /----/ v d| | +---------+ | | Sulking |<-/ 3 +---------+ [...] Configure to Data Check (t): This state transition occurs when the WTP and AC confirm the configuration. [...] AC: This state transition occurs when the AC receives the Change State Event Request message (see Section 8.6) from the WTP. The AC responds with a Change State Event Response message (see Section 8.7). The AC MUST start the DataCheckTimer timer (see Section 4.7). Data Check to DTLS Teardown (6): This transition occurs when the WTP does not complete the Data Check exchange. WTP: This state transition occurs if the WTP does not receive the Change State Event Response before a CAPWAP transmission timeout occurs. AC: The AC enters this state when the DataCheckTimer timer expires (see Section 4.7). Data Check to Run (u): This state transition occurs when the linkage between the control and data channels has occured, causing the WTP and AC to enter their normal state of operation. [...] AC: This state transition occurs when the AC receives the Data Channel Keep Alive packet (see Section 4.4.1), with a Session ID message element matching that included by the WTP in the Join Request message. The AC disables the DataCheckTimer timer. Note that if AC policy is to require the data channel to be encrypted, this process would also require the establishment of a data channel DTLS session. Upon receiving the Data Channel Keep Alive packet, the AC transmits its own Data Channel Keep Alive packet. 4.7. CAPWAP Protocol Timers [...] 4.7.4. DataCheckTimer The number of seconds the AC will wait for the Data Channel Keep Alive, which is required by the CAPWAP state machine's Data Check state. The AC resets the state machine if this timer expires prior to transitioning to the next state. Default: 30 PatC _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Fri Nov 16 18:15:35 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ItAPP-0008Kg-2n for capwap-archive@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:15:35 -0500 Received: from mx2.tigertech.net ([64.62.209.32]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ItAPL-0006S5-Kg for capwap-archive@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:15:35 -0500 Received: from fry.tigertech.net (fry.tigertech.net [64.62.209.19]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD401843277 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:15:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from g1-41.tigertech.net (g1-41.tigertech.net [64.62.209.41]) by fry.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96FC04A4034 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:15:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D3EB322803A for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:15:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from hgblob.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B213228061 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:15:20 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:15:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-dkim-1.cisco.com ([171.71.179.21]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 Nov 2007 15:15:20 -0800 Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com (sj-core-1.cisco.com [171.71.177.237]) by sj-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lAGNFKbQ011099 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:15:20 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-211.cisco.com [171.70.151.144]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id lAGNFKUV024429 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:15:20 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.85]) by xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:15:20 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:15:19 -0800 Message-ID: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A204C0B666@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A204C0B664@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] New Issue: Data Check has no timeout on AC Thread-Index: Acgopl5KK5BRzB0PQDOGEqBvKWQ9xgAACjsQ From: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" To: "capwap" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Nov 2007 23:15:20.0170 (UTC) FILETIME=[8E9264A0:01C828A6] Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-1; header.From=pcalhoun@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim1004 verified; ); X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-26) on hgblob X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 tagged_above=-999.0 required=7.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [Capwap] New Issue: Data Check has no timeout on AC X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b2809b6f39decc6de467dcf252f42af1 I should have noted this is issue 22. PatC -----Original Message----- From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 3:14 PM To: capwap Subject: [Capwap] New Issue: Data Check has no timeout on AC All, While removing the NeighborDead timer, I notice that it was incorrectly used while in the Data Check mode by the AC. Interestingly enough, the timer was actually incorrect since the description of the timer was only valid for Echo Requests, and only by the WTP. So I had to create a new timer, and a new state transition to allow for this state to timeout. The issue is that when the AC enters the Data Check state, it needs to have a fail safe if the WTP doesn't transmit close the loop. So the new text requires that the AC set the timer when it enters the Data Check state, and it disables the timer if the WTP doesn't transmit the Data Channel Keep Alive packet. I also added text to have the AC disable the timer if it does receive the packet from the WTP. Here is the proposed text: 2.3. CAPWAP State Machine Definition [...] /-------------------------------------\ | /-------------------------\| | w| || | 5+----------+ x +------------+ || | | Run |-->| Reset |-\|| | +----------+ +------------+ ||| 6| u ^ ^ ^ y||| +------------+--------/ | | ||| | Data Check | /-------/ | ||| +------------+<-------\ | | ||| | | | ||| /------------------+--------\ | ||| r| t| s| 4 v o| ||| +--------+ +-----------+ +--------------+||| | Join |---->| Configure | | Image Data |||| +--------+ q +-----------+ +--------------+||| ^ p| V| x| ||| | | \-------------------\ | ||| | \--------------------------------------\| | ||| \------------------------\ || | ||| /--------------<----------------+--------------\ || | ||| | /------------<-------------\ | | || | ||| | | m| |n z| vv v vvv | | +----------------+ +--------------+ +-----------+ | | | DTLS Setup | | DTLS Connect | | DTLS TD | | | +----------------+ +--------------+ +-----------+ | | g| ^ ^ |h ^ ^ v v | | | | | | | | | | | \-------\ | /-----------/ | | | | | | | | | | v |e f| 2 v |j |k | \->+------+ +------+ +-----------+ | | Idle |-->| Disc | | Authorize | \--->+------+ a +------+ +-----------+ b| ^ |c | | /----/ v d| | +---------+ | | Sulking |<-/ 3 +---------+ [...] Configure to Data Check (t): This state transition occurs when the WTP and AC confirm the configuration. [...] AC: This state transition occurs when the AC receives the Change State Event Request message (see Section 8.6) from the WTP. The AC responds with a Change State Event Response message (see Section 8.7). The AC MUST start the DataCheckTimer timer (see Section 4.7). Data Check to DTLS Teardown (6): This transition occurs when the WTP does not complete the Data Check exchange. WTP: This state transition occurs if the WTP does not receive the Change State Event Response before a CAPWAP transmission timeout occurs. AC: The AC enters this state when the DataCheckTimer timer expires (see Section 4.7). Data Check to Run (u): This state transition occurs when the linkage between the control and data channels has occured, causing the WTP and AC to enter their normal state of operation. [...] AC: This state transition occurs when the AC receives the Data Channel Keep Alive packet (see Section 4.4.1), with a Session ID message element matching that included by the WTP in the Join Request message. The AC disables the DataCheckTimer timer. Note that if AC policy is to require the data channel to be encrypted, this process would also require the establishment of a data channel DTLS session. Upon receiving the Data Channel Keep Alive packet, the AC transmits its own Data Channel Keep Alive packet. 4.7. CAPWAP Protocol Timers [...] 4.7.4. DataCheckTimer The number of seconds the AC will wait for the Data Channel Keep Alive, which is required by the CAPWAP state machine's Data Check state. The AC resets the state machine if this timer expires prior to transitioning to the next state. Default: 30 PatC _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Fri Nov 16 18:21:48 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ItAVQ-0000L2-2e for capwap-archive@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:21:48 -0500 Received: from g1-41.tigertech.net ([64.62.209.41]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ItAVM-0006ct-Kh for capwap-archive@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:21:48 -0500 Received: from fry.tigertech.net (fry.tigertech.net [64.62.209.19]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C885322807D for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:21:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.tigertech.net (mx2.tigertech.net [64.62.209.32]) by fry.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1184A4034 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:21:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 450A11840595 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:21:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6CE71840723 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:21:19 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:21:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-dkim-1.cisco.com ([171.71.179.21]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 Nov 2007 15:21:19 -0800 Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com (sj-core-4.cisco.com [171.68.223.138]) by sj-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lAGNLJev019339 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:21:19 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-211.cisco.com [171.70.151.144]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id lAGNL21Y002571 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:21:19 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.85]) by xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:21:18 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:21:18 -0800 Message-ID: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A204C0B671@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Entering Image Data has no timeout Thread-Index: Acgop2Q4zeMZ+AnaSW+3Pn+6g8onew== From: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" To: "capwap" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Nov 2007 23:21:18.0819 (UTC) FILETIME=[6457E330:01C828A7] Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-1; header.From=pcalhoun@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim1004 verified; ); X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-26) on hermes X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 tagged_above=-999.0 required=7.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS X-Spam-Level: Subject: [Capwap] Entering Image Data has no timeout X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 02ec665d00de228c50c93ed6b5e4fc1a All, Another issue that I ran across when removing the NeighborDead timer was that it was being incorrectly used during the transition from Join to Image Data. It's intent was to allow the AC to timeout if the WTP never started the image data process. This issue (now Issue 23) is fixed by having the AC set a timer when it enters the state, and reset the timer when it receivers the first Image Data Request from the WTP. If no such packet is ever received, it would cause a failure that would reset the state machine. 2.3. CAPWAP State Machine Definition [...] Join to Image Data (r): This state transition is used by the WTP and the AC to download executable firmware. [...] AC: This state transition occurs when the AC receives the Image Data Request message from the WTP. The AC MUST transmit an Image Data Response message (see Section 9.1.2) to the WTP, which includes a portion of the firmware. The AC MUST start the ImageDataStartTimer timer (see Section 4.7). Image Data to Image Data (4): The Image Data state is used by the WTP and the AC during the firmware download phase. [...] AC: This state transition occurs when the AC receives the Image Data Request message from the WTP while already in the Image Data state, and it detects that the firmware download has not completed. The AC disables the ImageDataStartTimer timer if it was enabled. Image Data to Reset (o): This state transition is used to reset the DTLS connection prior to restarting the WTP after an image download. [...] AC: The AC enters the Reset state when the image download is complete, if an error occurs during the image download process or if the ImageDataStartTimer timer expires. 4.7. CAPWAP Protocol Timers [...] 4.7.8. ImageDataStartTimer The number of seconds the AC will wait for the WTP to initiate the Image Data process. 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    ------=_NextPart_000_231D7_01C828A7.BB9A9A20-- From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Fri Nov 16 18:30:13 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ItAdZ-0005HF-3k for capwap-archive@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:30:13 -0500 Received: from g1-41.tigertech.net ([64.62.209.41]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ItAdV-0006na-ES for capwap-archive@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:30:13 -0500 Received: from fry.tigertech.net (fry.tigertech.net [64.62.209.19]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D8732280BC for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:30:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from g1-41.tigertech.net (g1-41.tigertech.net [64.62.209.41]) by fry.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B05624A4034 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:29:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85978322801E for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:29:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from hgblob.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF822322801A for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:29:53 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sj-iport-2.cisco.com (sj-iport-2-in.cisco.com [171.71.176.71]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:29:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-dkim-1.cisco.com ([171.71.179.21]) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 Nov 2007 15:29:52 -0800 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com (sj-core-5.cisco.com [171.71.177.238]) by sj-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lAGNTqx4029450 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:29:52 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-211.cisco.com [171.70.151.144]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id lAGNTpGi028600 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:29:52 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.85]) by xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:29:47 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:29:47 -0800 Message-ID: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A204C0B67F@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A2048C921F@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Issue 19: Issue with Image Data to Reset Thread-Index: AcgNDqV87JkfECKhQRGyMuUj41fa7wbmU9Zg From: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" To: "capwap" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Nov 2007 23:29:47.0950 (UTC) FILETIME=[93CF1CE0:01C828A8] Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-1; header.From=pcalhoun@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim1004 verified; ); X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-26) on hgblob X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 tagged_above=-999.0 required=7.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS X-Spam-Level: Subject: [Capwap] Issue 19: Issue with Image Data to Reset X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 92df29fa99cf13e554b84c8374345c17 While fixing this issue, I found that the timer that I had introduced for issue 23 could be re-used. However, a small tweak was required to the text in issue 23, where the timer isn't disabled by the AC when it receives the Image Data Request from the WTP, but instead it resets the timer. If the timer resets, then it is an indication that no further packets are to be expected, and the firmware download is complete. Note that the AC no longer performs the (o) state transition when it believes the firmware download is complete. Here is the proposed text 2.3. CAPWAP State Machine Definition [...] Image Data to Image Data (4): The Image Data state is used by the WTP and the AC during the firmware download phase. [...] AC: This state transition occurs when the AC receives the Image Data Request message from the WTP while already in the Image Data state. The AC resets the ImageDataStartTimer timer. Image Data to Reset (o): This state transition is used to reset the DTLS connection prior to restarting the WTP after an image download. [...] AC: The AC enters the Reset state when an error occurs during the image download process or if the ImageDataStartTimer timer expires. PatC -----Original Message----- From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 1:30 PM To: capwap Subject: [Capwap] Issue with Image Data to Reset All, The current text states that the AC can transition from the Image Data to Reset, but this is a problem since the last image data response sent by the AC may not have been received by the WTP, and therefore the Image Data Request may need to be retransmitted. There are really only two alternatives to this situation: 1. Let the WTP reset, but require that the AC set the NeighborDead timer and wait for expiration before the WTP is marked dead, or 2. Create a uni-directional message from the WTP to the AC to indicate that the download is complete, at which time the AC would set the WTP to dead. This is not very reliable, because the message would not be retransmitted, and therefore a timer would be necessary anyhow. My preference is to go with option 1. Any objections? Issue 19 created to track this issue. PatC _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Fri Nov 16 18:31:40 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ItAew-000600-IZ for capwap-archive@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:31:40 -0500 Received: from mx2.tigertech.net ([64.62.209.32]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ItAer-0006tr-TI for capwap-archive@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:31:38 -0500 Received: from fry.tigertech.net (fry.tigertech.net [64.62.209.19]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901FD1843279 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:31:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from g1-41.tigertech.net (g1-41.tigertech.net [64.62.209.41]) by fry.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C89064A4034 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:31:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A11F7322806A for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:31:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from hgblob.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF84322801A for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:31:24 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sj-iport-3.cisco.com (sj-iport-3-in.cisco.com [171.71.176.72]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:31:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-dkim-2.cisco.com ([171.71.179.186]) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 Nov 2007 15:31:24 -0800 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com (sj-core-5.cisco.com [171.71.177.238]) by sj-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lAGNVOqZ002924 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:31:24 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-211.cisco.com [171.70.151.144]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id lAGNV2Gk029639 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:31:24 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.85]) by xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:31:04 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:31:03 -0800 Message-ID: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A204C0B682@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A2048C91E6@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Image file size ambiguity Thread-Index: AcgGARBp2Pjfr5NhSTq1Lza5rJvr9gAxINPQAV/BAoAAKSiOsAAIECyABufPSxA= From: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" To: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" , "Bob O'Hara (boohara)" , "capwap" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Nov 2007 23:31:04.0777 (UTC) FILETIME=[C199FB90:01C828A8] Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-2; header.From=pcalhoun@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim2002 verified; ); X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-26) on hgblob X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 tagged_above=-999.0 required=7.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [Capwap] Image file size ambiguity X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 10ba05e7e8a9aa6adb025f426bef3a30 I am closing this issue as no comments have been received since the original proposal. PatC -----Original Message----- From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 12:53 PM To: Bob O'Hara (boohara); capwap Subject: Re: [Capwap] Image file size ambiguity Proposed text below: 4.6.29. Image Information The Image Information message element is present in the Image Data Response message sent by the AC to the WTP and contains the following fields. 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | File Size | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Hash | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Hash | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Hash | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Hash | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Type: 26 for Image Information Length: 18 File Size: A 32-bit value containing the size of the file, in bytes, that will be transfered by the AC to the WTP. PatC -----Original Message----- From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 9:02 AM To: Bob O'Hara (boohara); capwap Subject: Re: [Capwap] Image file size ambiguity Issue 17 created PatC -----Original Message----- From: Bob O'Hara (boohara) Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 1:25 PM To: capwap Cc: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) Subject: Image file size ambiguity In 4.6.26 of draft-07, there is a File Size field that is 16 bits in length. It is not clear what this value represents. Is it in bytes? If so, it is not large enough. Is it in 1024-byte blocks? This should be made clear in the spec. -Bob Bob O'Hara Cisco Systems - WNBU Phone: +1 408 853 5513 Mobile: +1 408 218 4025 _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Fri Nov 16 18:33:47 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ItAh1-0007Vc-AJ for capwap-archive@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:33:47 -0500 Received: from mx2.tigertech.net ([64.62.209.32]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ItAgw-0006zk-8g for capwap-archive@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:33:47 -0500 Received: from fry.tigertech.net (fry.tigertech.net [64.62.209.19]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F941843269 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:33:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.tigertech.net (mx2.tigertech.net [64.62.209.32]) by fry.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171F44A4034 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:33:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03D061840734 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:33:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7DD1840595 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:33:34 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sj-iport-3.cisco.com (sj-iport-3-in.cisco.com [171.71.176.72]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:33:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-dkim-3.cisco.com ([171.71.179.195]) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 Nov 2007 15:33:34 -0800 Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com (sj-core-1.cisco.com [171.71.177.237]) by sj-dkim-3.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lAGNXYhd008492; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:33:34 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-221.cisco.com [128.107.191.63]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id lAGNXXUn008205; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:33:34 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.85]) by xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:33:31 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:33:30 -0800 Message-ID: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A204C0B687@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Issue 18: CAPWAP and congestion control Thread-Index: AcgNAIZCSu53KiUUSxeAB3mcHM4WkwbqIF0w From: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" To: "Margaret Wasserman" , "Puneet Agarwal" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Nov 2007 23:33:31.0504 (UTC) FILETIME=[190EBF00:01C828A9] Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-3; header.From=pcalhoun@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim3002 verified; ); X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-26) on hermes X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 tagged_above=-999.0 required=7.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS X-Spam-Level: Cc: capwap Subject: [Capwap] Issue 18: CAPWAP and congestion control X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: cdb443e3957ca9b4c5b55e78cfcf4b26 I am closing this issue as no further comments have been received. PatC -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Wasserman [mailto:margaret@thingmagic.com] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:48 AM To: Puneet Agarwal Cc: capwap Subject: Re: [Capwap] CAPWAP and congestion control Makes sense to me. Margaret On Oct 12, 2007, at 1:22 PM, Puneet Agarwal wrote: > Hi Margaret, > > The local MAC mode does allow tunneling 802.3 packets between WTP and > AC. Hence I would like to suggest a slight addendum to your comment: > > "Because there is no congestion control mechanism specified for the > CAPWAP data channel, it is recommended that non-congestion-controlled > traffic not be tunneled over CAPWAP. When a significant amount of > non-congestion-controlled traffic is expected to be present on a WLAN, > the CAPWAP connection between the AC and the WTP for that LAN should > be configured to remain in Local MAC mode" > with Distribution function at the WTP. added text end> > > -----Original Message----- > From: Margaret Wasserman [mailto:margaret@thingmagic.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:33 AM > To: Margaret Wasserman > Cc: capwap > Subject: Re: [Capwap] CAPWAP and congestion control > > > > > Still commenting as an individual... > > Actually, I've been thinking some more about this, and I think that we > might want to go with the general approach that Abhijit suggested, but > be a bit more specific regarding the situation. > > For example: > > "Transport Considerations > > The CAPWAP WG carefully considered the congestion control requirements > of the CAPWAP protocol, both for the CAPWAP control and data channels. > > CAPWAP specifies a single-threaded command/response protocol to be > used on the control channel, and we have specified that an exponential > back-off algorithm should be used when commands are retransmitted. > When > CAPWAP runs in its default mode (Local MAC), the control channel is > the only CAPWAP channel. > > However, CAPWAP can also be run in Split MAC mode, in which case there > will be a DTLS-encrypted data channel between each WTP and the AC. > The > WG discussed various options for providing congestion control on this > channel. However, due to performance problems with TCP when it is run > over another congestion control mechanism and the fact that the vast > majority of traffic run over the CAPWAP data channel is likely to be > congestion-controlled IP traffic, the CAPWAP WG felt that specifying a > congestion control mechanism for the CAPWAP data channel would be more > likely to cause problems than to resolve any. > > Because there is no congestion control mechanism specified for the > CAPWAP data channel, it is recommended that non-congestion-controlled > traffic not be tunneled over CAPWAP. When a significant amount of > non-congestion-controlled traffic is expected to be present on a WLAN, > the CAPWAP connection between the AC and the WTP for that LAN should > be configured to remain in Local MAC mode." > > What do folks think? > > Dave Borman, could you comment on whether this decision will be > acceptable to the Transport ADs? > > Margaret > > > > > On Oct 3, 2007, at 5:04 PM, Margaret Wasserman wrote: > >> >> >> >> Personally, I thought we reached a different conclusion from the >> discussion in Chicago. I thought that we were going to specify a >> mandatory to implement congestion control mechanism that could be >> turned off when administrators know that the traffic on their network >> will be IP-only and/or when they know that all of the traffic on >> their > >> network is generated by systems that implement some type of >> congestion > >> control. >> >> Margaret >> >> >> >> On Aug 28, 2007, at 8:00 PM, Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) wrote: >> >>> Any objections before I go ahead and change the spec? Do we want to >>> run this by the transport ADs and advisors? >>> >>> PatC >>> >>> From: Abhijit Choudhury (achoudhu) >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 4:45 PM >>> To: capwap >>> Subject: [Capwap] CAPWAP and congestion control >>> >>> Another issue that the transport A-Ds raised was that congestion >>> control needs to be considered for CAPWAP. >>> The concern was that in case of congestion in the network, packets >>> could get discarded and the sources may not be notified or may not >>> realize it. This could lead to congestion collapse and fairness >>> issues. >>> >>> In reality, almost all data traffic being tunneled over CAPWAP is >>> IP. > >>> Note that the CAPWAP tunnel is between the WTP and AC only. TCP >>> already has its own congestion control mechanism between the source >>> and the sink, and I'd argue that creating another congestion control >>> loop in the path would interfere with TCP's congestion control loop >>> and lead to undesirable effects. >>> >>> I'd suggest we add a Transport Considerations section to the CAPWAP >>> spec recommending that non-IP traffic not be sent over the Internet >>> when using CAPWPAP. >>> Some proposed text is provided below. >>> >>> Thoughts/comments ? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Abhijit >>> >>> -------------PROPOSED TEXT --------------- >>> >>> Transport Considerations >>> >>> The CAPWAP protocol does not provide a congestion control mechanism. >>> The underlying assumption is that data being tunneled by CAPWAP is >>> IP. Since it is essentially a tunneling protocol between two >>> intermediate points in the path between the wireless client and the >>> end host, it was felt that having a separate congestion control for >>> CAPWAP would actually interfere with the congestion control >>> mechanisms already in place. >>> >>> In order to prevent congestion collapse and fairness issues from >>> happening in the Internet, it is recommended that non-IP traffic not >>> be tunneled over CAPWAP. >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: >>> http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: >> http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap >> >> Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap > > _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Fri Nov 16 18:35:41 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ItAir-0005DE-7w for capwap-archive@lists.ietf.org; 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header.From=pcalhoun@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim4002 verified; ); X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-26) on hermes X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 tagged_above=-999.0 required=7.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 4: Potential Middlebox Issues X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 0bc60ec82efc80c84b8d02f4b0e4de22 I am closing this issue as no disagreement or comments have been received. PatC -----Original Message----- From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:37 AM To: capwap@frascone.com Subject: [Capwap] Issue 4: Potential Middlebox Issues I believe this issue is already addressed through the resolution of issue 5. I would therefore propose that it be marked as closed if folks agree that the middlebox issue is related to the use of UDP-Lite, and that we have now provided a negotiable mechanism to use UDP when a middlebox is present. PatC _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Fri Nov 16 18:36:42 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ItAjq-0000sk-DC for capwap-archive@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:36:42 -0500 Received: from mx2.tigertech.net ([64.62.209.32]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ItAjl-00074S-23 for capwap-archive@lists.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:36:42 -0500 Received: from fry.tigertech.net (fry.tigertech.net [64.62.209.19]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5DE5184326F for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:36:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from g1-41.tigertech.net (g1-41.tigertech.net [64.62.209.41]) by fry.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2515B4A4034 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:36:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04FBA322801E for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:36:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from hgblob.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1879A322801B for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:36:29 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sj-iport-3.cisco.com (sj-iport-3-in.cisco.com [171.71.176.72]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:36:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-dkim-2.cisco.com ([171.71.179.186]) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 Nov 2007 15:36:28 -0800 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com (sj-core-5.cisco.com [171.71.177.238]) by sj-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lAGNaSpH009005 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:36:28 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-231.cisco.com [128.107.191.100]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id lAGNaOGg003749 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:36:28 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.85]) by xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:36:25 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:36:24 -0800 Message-ID: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A204C0B68E@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A2048C916F@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Issue 5: Proposed text for Benefits of Using UDP-Lite? Thread-Index: AcgM/iajvo6pMyQKSr2dCX/rO1yQiwbq1VQQ From: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" To: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Nov 2007 23:36:25.0383 (UTC) FILETIME=[80B29370:01C828A9] Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-2; header.From=pcalhoun@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim2002 verified; ); X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-26) on hgblob X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 tagged_above=-999.0 required=7.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 5: Proposed text for Benefits of Using UDP-Lite? X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: e1924de3f9fb68e58c31920136007eb1 This issue is marked closed as no comments have been received since posting the proposed text on 10/12/07. It is fixed in draft-ietf-capwap-protocol- specification-08.txt PatC -----Original Message----- From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:32 AM To: capwap@frascone.com Subject: [Capwap] Issue 5: Proposed text for Benefits of Using UDP-Lite? All, Please find the proposed text for the IPv6/UDP-Lite issue below. 3. CAPWAP Transport Communication between a WTP and an AC is established using the standard UDP client/server model. The CAPWAP protocol supports both UDP and UDP-Lite [11] transport protocols. When run over IPv4, UDP is used for the CAPWAP control and data channels. When run over IPv6, the CAPWAP control channel always uses UDP, while the CAPWAP data channel may use either UDP or UDP-Lite. UDP-Lite is the default transport protocol for the CAPWAP data channel. However, if a middlebox or IPv4 to IPv6 gateway has been discovered, UDP is used for the CAPWAP data channel. This section describes how the CAPWAP protocol is carried over IP and UDP/UDP-Lite transport protocols. The CAPWAP Transport Protocol message element Section 4.6.12 describes the rules to use in determing which transport protocol is to be used. 3.1. UDP Transport One of the CAPWAP protocol requirements is to allow a WTP to reside behind a middlebox, firewall and/or Network Address Translation (NAT) device. Since a CAPWAP session is initiated by the WTP (client) to the well-known UDP port of the AC (server), the use of UDP is a logical choice. The UDP checksum field in CAPWAP packets MUST be set to zero. CAPWAP protocol control packets sent from the WTP to the AC use the CAPWAP control channel, as defined in Section 1.4. The CAPWAP control port at the AC is the well known UDP port [to be IANA assigned]. The CAPWAP control port at the WTP can be any port selected by the WTP. CAPWAP protocol data packets sent from the WTP to the AC use the CAPWAP data channel, as defined in Section 1.4. The CAPWAP data port at the AC is the well known UDP port [to be IANA assigned]. The CAPWAP data port at the WTP can be any port selected by the WTP. 3.2. UDP-Lite Transport When CAPWAP is run over IPv6, UDP-Lite is the default transport protocol, which reduces the checksum processing required for each packet (compared to the use of UDP over IPv6 [13]). When UDP-Lite is used, the checksum field MUST have a coverage of 8 [11]. UDP-Lite uses the same port assignments as UDP. [...] 4.6. CAPWAP Protocol Message Elements [...] CAPWAP Message Element Type Value [...] CAPWAP Transport Protocol TBD CAPWAP Local IPV4 Address TBD CAPWAP Local IPV6 Address TBD [...] 4.6.12. CAPWAP Transport Protocol When CAPWAP is run over IPv6, the UDP-Lite or UDP transports MAY be used (see Section 3). The CAPWAP IPv6 Transport Protocol message element is used by either the WTP or the AC to signal which transport protocol is to be used for the CAPWAP data channel. Upon receiving the Join Request, the AC MAY set the CAPWAP Transport Protocol to UDP-Lite in the Configuration Status Request or Image Data Request message if the CAPWAP message was received over IPv6, and the CAPWAP Local IPv6 Address message element (see Section 4.6.14) is present and the address matches the packet's source IP address. Upon receiving the Configuration Status Request or Image Data Request message, the WTP MAY set the CAPWAP Transport Protocol to UDP-Lite in the Configuration Status Response or Image Data Response message if the message was received over IPv6, and the CAPWAP Local IPv6 Address message element (see Section 4.6.14) is present and the address matches the packet's source IP address. For any other condition, the CAPWAP Transport Protocol MUST be set to UDP. 0 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Transport | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Type: TBD for CAPWAP Transport Protocol Length: 1 Transport: The transport to use for the CAPWAP data channel. 1 - UDP-Lite The UDP-Lite transport protocol is to be used for the CAPWAP data channel. Note that this option is illegal is either the WTP or the AC uses IPv4. 2 - UDP The UDP transport protocol is to be used for the CAPWAP data channel. 4.6.13. CAPWAP Local IPv4 Address The CAPWAP Local IPv4 Address message element is sent by either the WTP or the AC in the Join Request, Configuration Status Request or Image Data Request message in order to communicate the IP Address of the transmitter. The receiver uses this to determine whether a middlebox exists between the two peers, by comparing the source IP address of the packet against the value of the message element. 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | IP Address | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Type: TBD for CAPWAP Local IPv4 Address Length: 4 IP Address: The IP Address of the sender. 4.6.14. CAPWAP Local IPv6 Address The CAPWAP Local IPv6 Address message element is sent by either the WTP or the AC in the Discovery Response or Join Request in order to communicate the IP Address of the transmitter. The receiver uses this to determine whether a middlebox exists between the two peers, by comparing the source IP address of the packet against the value of the message element. 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | IP Address | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | IP Address | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | IP Address | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | IP Address | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Type: TBD for CAPWAP Local IPv6 Address Length: 16 IP Address: The IP Address of the sender. [...] 11. NAT Considerations There are three specific situations in which a NAT deployment may be used in conjunction with a CAPWAP-enabled deployment. The first consists of a configuration in which a single WTP is behind a NAT system. Since all communication is initiated by the WTP, and all communication is performed over IP using two UDP ports, the protocol easily traverses NAT systems in this configuration. In the second case, two or more WTPs are deployed behind the same NAT system. Here, the AC would receive multiple connection requests from the same IP address, and cannot differentiate the originating WTP of the connection requests. The CAPWAP Data Check state, which establishes the data plane connection and communicates the Data Keepalive, includes the Session Identifier message element, which is used to bind the control and data plane. Use of the Session Identifier message element enables the AC to match the control and data plane flows from multiple WTPs behind the same NAT system (multiple WTPs sharing the same IP address). In the third configuration, the AC is deployed behind a NAT. Two issues exist in this situation. First, an AC communicates its interfaces and corresponding WTP load using the CAPWAP Control IPv4 Address and CAPWAP Control IPv6 Address message elements. This message element is mandatory, but contains invalid information if a middlebox is present between the AC and WTP. The WTP MUST NOT utilize the information in these message elements if it detects a NAT (as described in the CAPWAP Transport Protocol message element). Note this would disable the load balancing capabilities of the CAPWAP protocol. Alternatively, the AC could have a configured NAT'ed address, which it would include in either of the two control address message elements. The CAPWAP protocol allows for all of the AC identities supporting a group of WTPs to be communicated through the AC List message element. This feature MUST be ignored by the WTP when it detects the AC is behind a middlebox. The CAPWAP protocol allows an AC to configure a static IP address on a WTP using the WTP Static IP Address Information message element. This message element SHOULD NOT be used in NAT'ed environments, unless the administrator is familiar with the internal IP addressing scheme within the WTP's private network, and does not rely on the public address seen by the AC. When a WTP detects the duplicate address condition, it generates a message to the AC, which includes the Duplicate IP Address message element. 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It is fixed in draft-ietf-capwap-protocol- specification-08.txt PatC -----Original Message----- From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 9:37 AM To: capwap@frascone.com Subject: [Capwap] Issue 2: Potential Firmware Download Performance Issue As we discussed during the face-to-face meeting, I would like to close this issue by adding specific text to the transport consideration section. The proposed text follows: The lock step nature of the CAPWAP protocol's control channel can cause the firmware download process to take some time, depending upon the RTT. This is not expected to be a problem since the CAPWAP protocol allows firmware to be downloaded while the WTP provides service to wireless clients/devices. Comments? 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This draft is a work item of the Control And Provisioning of Wireless Access Points Working Group of the IETF. Title : CAPWAP Protocol Specification Author(s) : P. Calhoun, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-capwap-protocol-specification-08.txt Pages : 133 Date : 2007-11-19 This specification defines the Control And Provisioning of Wireless Access Points (CAPWAP) Protocol. The CAPWAP protocol meets the IETF CAPWAP working group protocol requirements. The CAPWAP protocol is designed to be flexible, allowing it to be used for a variety of wireless technologies. This document describes the base CAPWAP protocol. The CAPWAP protocol binding which defines extensions for use with the IEEE 802.11 wireless LAN protocol is available in [16]. Extensions are expected to be defined to enable use of the CAPWAP protocol with additional wireless technologies. 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This draft is a work item of the Control And Provisioning of Wireless Access Points Working Group of the IETF. Title : CAPWAP Protocol Binding for IEEE 802.11 Author(s) : P. Calhoun, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-capwap-protocol-binding-ieee80211-05.txt Pages : 62 Date : 2007-11-19 Wireless LAN product architectures have evolved from single autonomous access points to systems consisting of a centralized Access Controller (AC) and Wireless Termination Points (WTPs). The general goal of centralized control architectures is to move access control, including user authentication and authorization, mobility management and radio management from the single access point to a centralized controller. This specification defines the Control And Provisioning of Wireless Access Points (CAPWAP) Protocol Binding Specification for use with the IEEE 802.11 Wireless Local Area Network protocol. The CAPWAP Protocol Specification is defined separately [3]. 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header.From=boohara@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim3002 verified; ); X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-26) on hermes X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 tagged_above=-999.0 required=7.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS X-Spam-Level: Subject: [Capwap] FW: [sag_ro_wg] CAPWAP Spec, CAPWAP Header X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1819775754==" Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: dd887a8966a4c4c217a52303814d0b5f This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1819775754== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C82AD1.349FFC79" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C82AD1.349FFC79 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Forwarding for an outside reader. -Bob Bob O'Hara Cisco Systems - WNBU Phone: +1 408 853 5513 Mobile: +1 408 218 4025 =20 ________________________________ From: Jeff Gembler [mailto:jgembler@intelleflex.com]=20 Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 1:55 PM To: sag_ro_wg@lists.epcglobalinc.org Subject: [sag_ro_wg] CAPWAP Spec, CAPWAP Header =20 I have been reading the CAPWAP spec: =20 Network Working Group P. Calhoun, Editor Internet-Draft Cisco Systems, Inc. Expires: December 13, 2007 M. Montemurro, Editor Research In Motion D. Stanley, Editor Aruba Networks June 11, 2007 =20 CAPWAP Protocol Specification draft-ietf-capwap-protocol-specification-07 =20 =20 Page 40 shows the binary encoding for the CAPWAP Header. There is a text alignment problem on this page. =20 The WBID field is shown as, what would appear to be, 4.5 bits in length. The Flags field, 3.5 bits in length. What is correct 5,3 bits ? 4,4 bits ? =20 =20 Jeff Gembler Intelleflex =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C82AD1.349FFC79 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Forwarding for an outside = reader.

     -Bob

    Bob O'Hara
    Cisco Systems -=20 WNBU

    Phone:  +1 408 853 5513
    Mobile: +1 408 218=20 4025
     


    From: Jeff Gembler=20 [mailto:jgembler@intelleflex.com]
    Sent: Friday, November 16, = 2007=20 1:55 PM
    To: = sag_ro_wg@lists.epcglobalinc.org
    Subject:=20 [sag_ro_wg] CAPWAP Spec, CAPWAP Header

     

    I have been reading the = CAPWAP=20 spec:

     

        = Network=20 Working=20 Group           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;        =20 P. Calhoun, Editor

        = Internet-Draft          = ;            =             &= nbsp;   =20 Cisco Systems, Inc.

        = Expires:=20 December 13,=20 2007           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;=20 M. Montemurro, Editor

               &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;         =20 Research In Motion

               &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;         =20 D. Stanley, Editor

               &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ; =20 Aruba = Networks

                =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;  June=20 11, 2007

     

               &= nbsp;           =20 CAPWAP Protocol Specification

               &= nbsp;    =20 draft-ietf-capwap-protocol-specification-07

     

     

    Page 40 shows the binary = encoding=20 for the CAPWAP Header.

    There is a text alignment = problem on=20 this page. 

    The WBID field is shown = as,=20  what would appear to be,  4.5 bits in=20 length.

    The Flags field,  3.5 = bits in=20 length.

    What is = correct   5,3 bits=20 ?  4,4 bits ?

     

     

    Jeff=20 Gembler

    Intelleflex

     

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http://rfxn.qbmyown.com http://rwhs.qbmyown.com From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Mon Nov 19 13:51:05 2007 Return-path: Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuBi5-0000CC-1r for capwap-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:51:05 -0500 Received: from mx2.tigertech.net ([64.62.209.32]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IuBi0-0003si-QE for capwap-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:51:05 -0500 Received: from fry.tigertech.net (fry.tigertech.net [64.62.209.19]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 720241843272 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:51:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.tigertech.net (mx2.tigertech.net [64.62.209.32]) by fry.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DB04A4032 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:50:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB621843078 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:50:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D689C1843073 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:50:48 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sj-iport-3.cisco.com (sj-iport-3-in.cisco.com [171.71.176.72]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:50:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-dkim-2.cisco.com ([171.71.179.186]) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 19 Nov 2007 10:50:40 -0800 Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com (sj-core-2.cisco.com [171.71.177.254]) by sj-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lAJIoeD1020679 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:50:40 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-211.cisco.com [171.70.151.144]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id lAJIoM4E008233 for ; Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:50:40 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-223.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.124]) by xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:50:27 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:50:35 -0800 Message-ID: <0A7D7D6BC1EEF6489C3D0AE1B6B1619505485C02@xmb-sjc-223.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <17B8C6DE4E228348B4939BDA6B05A9DC041BC839@xmb-sjc-237.amer.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] FW: [sag_ro_wg] CAPWAP Spec, CAPWAP Header Thread-Index: Acgom2OeHqSmhRuhQOSFIo1yU/aS2QCNfBwgAALU0YA= References: <17B8C6DE4E228348B4939BDA6B05A9DC041BC839@xmb-sjc-237.amer.cisco.com> From: "Abhijit Choudhury (achoudhu)" To: "Bob O'Hara (boohara)" , "capwap" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Nov 2007 18:50:27.0962 (UTC) FILETIME=[0D5125A0:01C82ADD] Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-2; header.From=achoudhu@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim2002 verified; ); X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-26) on hermes X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 tagged_above=-999.0 required=7.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [Capwap] FW: [sag_ro_wg] CAPWAP Spec, CAPWAP Header X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0364492381==" Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 69aba9e925a1047819f53b40fa4fc4e6 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0364492381== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C82ADD.0D414D01" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C82ADD.0D414D01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There does seem to be an alignment problem - even in the latest draft (v08). =20 The text however says: =20 WBID: A 5 bit field which is the wireless binding identifier. The identifier will indicate the type of wireless packet type associated with the radio. The following values are defined: =20 1 - IEEE 802.11 =20 2 - IEEE 802.16 =20 3 - EPCGlobal =20 So, WBID should be 5bits wide and Flags 3bits wide. =20 =20 Thanks, Abhijit =20 =20 =20 ________________________________ From: Bob O'Hara (boohara)=20 Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 9:27 AM To: capwap Subject: [Capwap] FW: [sag_ro_wg] CAPWAP Spec, CAPWAP Header Forwarding for an outside reader. -Bob Bob O'Hara Cisco Systems - WNBU Phone: +1 408 853 5513 Mobile: +1 408 218 4025 =20 ________________________________ From: Jeff Gembler [mailto:jgembler@intelleflex.com]=20 Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 1:55 PM To: sag_ro_wg@lists.epcglobalinc.org Subject: [sag_ro_wg] CAPWAP Spec, CAPWAP Header =20 I have been reading the CAPWAP spec: =20 Network Working Group P. Calhoun, Editor Internet-Draft Cisco Systems, Inc. Expires: December 13, 2007 M. Montemurro, Editor Research In Motion D. Stanley, Editor Aruba Networks June 11, 2007 =20 CAPWAP Protocol Specification draft-ietf-capwap-protocol-specification-07 =20 =20 Page 40 shows the binary encoding for the CAPWAP Header. There is a text alignment problem on this page. =20 The WBID field is shown as, what would appear to be, 4.5 bits in length. The Flags field, 3.5 bits in length. What is correct 5,3 bits ? 4,4 bits ? =20 =20 Jeff Gembler Intelleflex =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C82ADD.0D414D01 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    There does seem to be an alignment problem=20 -
    even in the latest draft = (v08).
     
    The text however says:
     
        WBID:  A 5 = bit field=20 which is the wireless binding identifier. =20 The
          identifier will indicate the type = of=20 wireless packet type
          associated with = the=20 radio.  The following values are=20 defined:
     
          1 -  IEEE=20 802.11
     
          2 -  IEEE=20 802.16
     
          3 - =20 EPCGlobal
     
    So, WBID should be  5bits wide and Flags = 3bits=20 wide.
     
     
    Thanks,
    Abhijit
     
     
     

    From: Bob O'Hara (boohara) =
    Sent:=20 Monday, November 19, 2007 9:27 AM
    To: = capwap
    Subject:=20 [Capwap] FW: [sag_ro_wg] CAPWAP Spec, CAPWAP Header

    Forwarding for an outside = reader.

     -Bob

    Bob O'Hara
    Cisco Systems -=20 WNBU

    Phone:  +1 408 853 5513
    Mobile: +1 408 218=20 4025
     


    From: Jeff Gembler=20 [mailto:jgembler@intelleflex.com]
    Sent: Friday, November 16, = 2007=20 1:55 PM
    To: = sag_ro_wg@lists.epcglobalinc.org
    Subject:=20 [sag_ro_wg] CAPWAP Spec, CAPWAP Header

     

    I have been reading the = CAPWAP=20 spec:

     

        = Network=20 Working=20 Group           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;        =20 P. Calhoun, Editor

        = Internet-Draft          = ;            =             &= nbsp;   =20 Cisco Systems, Inc.

        = Expires:=20 December 13,=20 2007           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;=20 M. Montemurro, Editor

               &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;         =20 Research In Motion

               &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;         =20 D. Stanley, Editor

               &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ; =20 Aruba = Networks

                =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;  June=20 11, 2007

     

               &= nbsp;           =20 CAPWAP Protocol Specification

               &= nbsp;    =20 draft-ietf-capwap-protocol-specification-07

     

     

    Page 40 shows the binary = encoding=20 for the CAPWAP Header.

    There is a text alignment = problem on=20 this page. 

    The WBID field is shown = as,=20  what would appear to be,  4.5 bits in=20 length.

    The Flags field,  3.5 = bits in=20 length.

    What is = correct   5,3 bits=20 ?  4,4 bits ?

     

     

    Jeff=20 Gembler

    Intelleflex

     

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The figure in 4.3 of the -08 draft needs to have a space added before "WBID" and a space removed after "Flags" to align the fields correctly. -Bob =20 =20 ________________________________ From: Abhijit Choudhury (achoudhu)=20 Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 10:51 AM To: Bob O'Hara (boohara); capwap Subject: RE: [Capwap] FW: [sag_ro_wg] CAPWAP Spec, CAPWAP Header There does seem to be an alignment problem - even in the latest draft (v08). =20 The text however says: =20 WBID: A 5 bit field which is the wireless binding identifier. The identifier will indicate the type of wireless packet type associated with the radio. The following values are defined: =20 1 - IEEE 802.11 =20 2 - IEEE 802.16 =20 3 - EPCGlobal =20 So, WBID should be 5bits wide and Flags 3bits wide. =20 =20 Thanks, Abhijit =20 =20 =20 ________________________________ From: Bob O'Hara (boohara)=20 Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 9:27 AM To: capwap Subject: [Capwap] FW: [sag_ro_wg] CAPWAP Spec, CAPWAP Header Forwarding for an outside reader. -Bob Bob O'Hara Cisco Systems - WNBU Phone: +1 408 853 5513 Mobile: +1 408 218 4025 =20 ________________________________ From: Jeff Gembler [mailto:jgembler@intelleflex.com]=20 Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 1:55 PM To: sag_ro_wg@lists.epcglobalinc.org Subject: [sag_ro_wg] CAPWAP Spec, CAPWAP Header =20 I have been reading the CAPWAP spec: =20 Network Working Group P. Calhoun, Editor Internet-Draft Cisco Systems, Inc. Expires: December 13, 2007 M. Montemurro, Editor Research In Motion D. Stanley, Editor Aruba Networks June 11, 2007 =20 CAPWAP Protocol Specification draft-ietf-capwap-protocol-specification-07 =20 =20 Page 40 shows the binary encoding for the CAPWAP Header. There is a text alignment problem on this page. =20 The WBID field is shown as, what would appear to be, 4.5 bits in length. The Flags field, 3.5 bits in length. What is correct 5,3 bits ? 4,4 bits ? =20 =20 Jeff Gembler Intelleflex =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C82AF0.FF7D5809 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    I agree.  The figure in 4.3 of the -08 = draft needs to=20 have a space added before "WBID" and a space removed after "Flags" to = align the=20 fields correctly.

     -Bob
     

     

    From: Abhijit Choudhury (achoudhu)=20
    Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 10:51 AM
    To: Bob = O'Hara=20 (boohara); capwap
    Subject: RE: [Capwap] FW: [sag_ro_wg] CAPWAP = Spec,=20 CAPWAP Header

    There does seem to be an alignment problem=20 -
    even in the latest draft = (v08).
     
    The text however says:
     
        WBID:  A 5 = bit field which=20 is the wireless binding identifier.  = The
         =20 identifier will indicate the type of wireless packet=20 type
          associated with the radio.  = The=20 following values are defined:
     
          1 -  IEEE=20 802.11
     
          2 -  IEEE=20 802.16
     
          3 - =20 EPCGlobal
     
    So, WBID should be  5bits wide and Flags = 3bits=20 wide.
     
     
    Thanks,
    Abhijit
     
     
     

    From: Bob O'Hara (boohara) =
    Sent:=20 Monday, November 19, 2007 9:27 AM
    To: = capwap
    Subject:=20 [Capwap] FW: [sag_ro_wg] CAPWAP Spec, CAPWAP Header

    Forwarding for an outside = reader.

     -Bob

    Bob O'Hara
    Cisco Systems -=20 WNBU

    Phone:  +1 408 853 5513
    Mobile: +1 408 218=20 4025
     


    From: Jeff Gembler=20 [mailto:jgembler@intelleflex.com]
    Sent: Friday, November 16, = 2007=20 1:55 PM
    To: = sag_ro_wg@lists.epcglobalinc.org
    Subject:=20 [sag_ro_wg] CAPWAP Spec, CAPWAP Header

     

    I have been reading the = CAPWAP=20 spec:

     

        = Network=20 Working=20 Group           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;        =20 P. Calhoun, Editor

        = Internet-Draft          = ;            =             &= nbsp;   =20 Cisco Systems, Inc.

        = Expires:=20 December 13,=20 2007           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;=20 M. Montemurro, Editor

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        = Network=20 Working=20 Group           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;        =20 P. Calhoun, Editor

        = Internet-Draft          = ;            =             &= nbsp;   =20 Cisco Systems, Inc.

        = Expires:=20 December 13,=20 2007           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;=20 M. Montemurro, Editor

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               &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ; =20 Aruba = Networks

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               &= nbsp;           =20 CAPWAP Protocol Specification

               &= nbsp;    =20 draft-ietf-capwap-protocol-specification-07

     

     

    Page 40 shows the binary = encoding=20 for the CAPWAP Header.

    There is a text alignment = problem on=20 this page. 

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