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<td style=3D"border: 1px solid #F28B0C; padding: 2px;">20 doses</td>
<td style=3D"border: 1px solid #F28B0C; padding: 2px;"><strike =
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<td style=3D"border: 1px solid #F28B0C; padding: 2px;"><strike =
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<td style=3D"border: 1px solid #F28B0C; padding: 2px;"><span =
style=3D"color: 
#900;"><b>$141.02</b></span></td>
</tr>
<tr>
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<td style=3D"border: 1px solid #F28B0C; padding: 2px;"><strike =
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#777;">$449.95</strike></td>
<td style=3D"border: 1px solid #F28B0C; padding: 2px;"><span =
style=3D"color: 
#900;"><b>$141.02</b></span></td>
</tr>
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<td style=3D"border: 1px solid #F28B0C; padding: 2px;">90 tabs</td>
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In the CAPWAP spec, Vendor Specific Payloads are defined but
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In the CAPWAP spec, Data Transfer Request messages are sent by the WTP =
to the
AC when the WTP determines that it has important information to send to
the AC.  This is is essentially a "push" mechanism that is used to =
transfer=20
crash files etc. to the AC, and works well for remote debugging.
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=20
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From: Smitha Smitha (ssmitha)=20
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 7:52 PM
To: capwap
Subject: [Capwap] ChangeStatePendingTimer clarification


The definition for ChangeStatePendingTimer is as given below:
=20
  The maximum time, in seconds, the AC will wait for the Change State
   Event Request from the WTP after having transmitted a successful
   Configuration Status Response message.  The default value is 25
   seconds
=20
So - according to this ChangeStatePendingTimer is started after sending
configuration status response.
=20
Transition from Join to Configure:
=20
  AC:  This state transition occurs immediately after the AC
         transmits the Join Response message to the WTP.  If the AC
         receives the Configuration Status message from the WTP, the AC
         MUST transmit a Configuration Status Response message (see
         Section 8.3) to the WTP, and MAY include specific message
         elements to override the WTP's configuration.  The WTP also
         starts the ChangeStatePendingTimer timer (see Section 4.7).

This does not clarify when ChangeStatePendingTimer is started and also
no timer is started after sending a Join Response message to the WTP. If
the WTP never sends a Configuration Status message, AC will hold the
DTLS session. So, I think we should start the neighbor dead interval
timer after sending join response. That will solve the issue.
=20
Thanks
Smitha

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created tracker entry 25.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D668002722-02122007><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D668002722-02122007><FONT =
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color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>PatC</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> Smitha Smitha (ssmitha) =
<BR><B>Sent:</B>=20
Monday, August 13, 2007 7:52 PM<BR><B>To:</B> capwap<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
[Capwap]=20
ChangeStatePendingTimer clarification<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D045373502-14082007><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The =
definition for=20
ChangeStatePendingTimer is as given below:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D045373502-14082007><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D045373502-14082007><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><U>&nbsp; The=20
maximum time, in seconds, the AC will wait for the Change =
State<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Event Request from the WTP after having transmitted a =
successful<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
Configuration Status Response message.&nbsp; The default value is=20
25<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; seconds</U></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D045373502-14082007><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D045373502-14082007><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So - =
according to=20
this ChangeStatePendingTimer is started after sending configuration =
status=20
response.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D045373502-14082007><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D045373502-14082007><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Transition from Join=20
to Configure:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D045373502-14082007><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D045373502-14082007><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><U>&nbsp; AC:&nbsp;=20
This state transition occurs immediately after the=20
AC<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; transmits the =
Join=20
Response message to the WTP.&nbsp; If the=20
AC<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; receives the=20
Configuration Status message from the WTP, the=20
AC<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; MUST transmit a=20
Configuration Status Response message=20
(see<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Section 8.3) to =
the=20
WTP, and MAY include specific=20
message<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; elements to =
override=20
the WTP's configuration.&nbsp; The WTP=20
also<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; starts the=20
ChangeStatePendingTimer timer (see Section =
4.7).<BR></U></FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D045373502-14082007><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D045373502-14082007><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This =
does not=20
clarify when ChangeStatePendingTimer is started and also no timer is =
started=20
after sending a Join Response message to the WTP. If the WTP never sends =
a=20
Configuration Status message, AC will hold the DTLS session. So, I think =
we=20
should start the neighbor dead interval timer after sending join =
response. That=20
will solve the issue.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D045373502-14082007><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Thanks</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D045373502-14082007><FONT face=3DArial=20
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In the CAPWAP spec, Data Transfer Request messages are sent by the WTP
to the
AC when the WTP determines that it has important information to send to
the AC.  This is is essentially a "push" mechanism that is used to
transfer 
crash files etc. to the AC, and works well for remote debugging.
 
However, it's desirable to have a mechanism by which the AC can "pull"
data related to crashes etc. from the WTP. This would be helpful when
debugging from the CLI.
 
We should make data transfer bi-directional so that both "push" and
"pull" models are supported.
 
Thoughts/comments ?
 
Thanks,
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In section 4.4.2 (pg 43-44) the spec states: " IEEE 802.3 encapsulation
requires that the bridging function be performed in the WTP".
 
This looks incorrect based on section 2.1.2 of the ieee80211-04 spec for
local MAC definition.
 
Suggested text: "IEEE 802.3 encapsulation requires that for 802.11
frames, the 802.11 *Integration* function be performed in the WTP".
 
Another option would be to delete this sentence altogether.
 
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Created issue 28 to track this issue. I would note that the second issue
is not a bug because it was explicitely removed when we introduced the
fix to issue 3, which was to utilize existing tools to perform path MTU
discovery. So that issue is invalid. However, I have confirmed that the
first issue is valid.
=20
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1. The list of CAPWAP message elements on Page 52 of draft 08 is
   incomplete; elements 30-49 are missing.
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2. The description of message element MTU Discovery Padding is missing.
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Created issue 29 to track this
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In the CAPWAP spec, Vendor Specific Payloads are defined but
nothing is said about which messages can carry these payloads.
=20
We should add text to specify that ANY message, including
ECHO Response, EVENT Response etc. can carry Vendor Specific=20
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Smitha,
 
Thanks for pointing out this error. The fix is actually quite simple, as
there was a typo in the text below. The text currently reads:
"The WTP also starts the ChangeStatePendingTimer timer (see Section
4.7)."

But instead should have read:
"The AC also starts the ChangeStatePendingTimer timer (see Section
4.7)."

There is already text in the Configure to Reset state transition that
covers the case where the ChangeStatePendingTimer timer expires.

Thanks,

PatC
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From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) 
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 2:27 PM
To: Smitha Smitha (ssmitha); capwap
Subject: Re: [Capwap] ChangeStatePendingTimer clarification


Unfortunately this message got lost in the shuffle. I have created
tracker entry 25.
 
PatC

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From: Smitha Smitha (ssmitha) 
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 7:52 PM
To: capwap
Subject: [Capwap] ChangeStatePendingTimer clarification


The definition for ChangeStatePendingTimer is as given below:
 
  The maximum time, in seconds, the AC will wait for the Change State
   Event Request from the WTP after having transmitted a successful
   Configuration Status Response message.  The default value is 25
   seconds
 
So - according to this ChangeStatePendingTimer is started after sending
configuration status response.
 
Transition from Join to Configure:
 
  AC:  This state transition occurs immediately after the AC
         transmits the Join Response message to the WTP.  If the AC
         receives the Configuration Status message from the WTP, the AC
         MUST transmit a Configuration Status Response message (see
         Section 8.3) to the WTP, and MAY include specific message
         elements to override the WTP's configuration.  The WTP also
         starts the ChangeStatePendingTimer timer (see Section 4.7).

This does not clarify when ChangeStatePendingTimer is started and also
no timer is started after sending a Join Response message to the WTP. If
the WTP never sends a Configuration Status message, AC will hold the
DTLS session. So, I think we should start the neighbor dead interval
timer after sending join response. That will solve the issue.
 
Thanks
Smitha
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I have no issues with this change request.

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Unfortunately this message got lost in the shuffle. I have created
tracker entry 27.

PatC


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From: Puneet Agarwal [mailto:pagarwal@broadcom.com]
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 2:44 PM
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Subject: [Capwap] capwap -07 spec comment


In section 4.4.2 (pg 43-44) the spec states: " IEEE 802.3 encapsulation
requires that the bridging function be performed in the WTP".
 
This looks incorrect based on section 2.1.2 of the ieee80211-04 spec for
local MAC definition.
 
Suggested text: "IEEE 802.3 encapsulation requires that for 802.11
frames, the 802.11 *Integration* function be performed in the WTP".
 
Another option would be to delete this sentence altogether.
 
Thanks.
 
-Puneet
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The draft currently makes peer authorization optional. We need to make
it 
mandatory, but allow for the authorization to be lightweight (e.g.,
check 
against an ACL that has a default permit rule).

The text is:

   Authorize to DTLS Teardown (k):  This transition occurs to notify the
      DTLS stack that the session should be aborted.

      WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP was unable to
         authorize the AC, using the AC credentials.  The WTP then
         aborts the DTLS session by invoking the DTLSAbortSession
         command (see Section 2.3.2.1).

      AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC was unable to
         authorize the WTP, using the WTP credentials.  The AC then
         aborts the DTLS session by invoking the DTLSAbortSession
         command (see Section 2.3.2.1).

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Subject: [Capwap] Issue 19: Issue with Image Data to Reset

While fixing this issue, I found that the timer that I had introduced
for issue 23 could be re-used. However, a small tweak was required to
the text in issue 23, where the timer isn't disabled by the AC when it
receives the Image Data Request from the WTP, but instead it resets the
timer. If the timer resets, then it is an indication that no further
packets are to be expected, and the firmware download is complete. Note
that the AC no longer performs the (o) state transition when it believes
the firmware download is complete.

Here is the proposed text

<proposed text>
2.3.  CAPWAP State Machine Definition
[...]

   Image Data to Image Data (4):  The Image Data state is used by the
      WTP and the AC during the firmware download phase.
[...]

      AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the Image
         Data Request message from the WTP while already in the Image
         Data state.  The AC resets the ImageDataStartTimer timer.

   Image Data to Reset (o):  This state transition is used to reset the
      DTLS connection prior to restarting the WTP after an image
      download.
[...]

      AC:  The AC enters the Reset state when an error occurs during the
         image download process or if the ImageDataStartTimer timer
         expires.

</proposed text>

PatC
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All,

The current text states that the AC can transition from the Image Data
to Reset, but this is a problem since the last image data response sent
by the AC may not have been received by the WTP, and therefore the Image
Data Request may need to be retransmitted. There are really only two
alternatives to this situation:
1. Let the WTP reset, but require that the AC set the NeighborDead timer
and wait for expiration before the WTP is marked dead, or 2. Create a
uni-directional message from the WTP to the AC to indicate that the
download is complete, at which time the AC would set the WTP to dead.
This is not very reliable, because the message would not be
retransmitted, and therefore a timer would be necessary anyhow.

My preference is to go with option 1. Any objections?

Issue 19 created to track this issue.

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I should have noted this is issue 22.

PatC 

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [Capwap] New Issue: Data Check has no timeout on AC

All,
 
While removing the NeighborDead timer, I notice that it was incorrectly
used while in the Data Check mode by the AC. Interestingly enough, the
timer was actually incorrect since the description of the timer was only
valid for Echo Requests, and only by the WTP. So I had to create a new
timer, and a new state transition to allow for this state to timeout.
The issue is that when the AC enters the Data Check state, it needs to
have a fail safe if the WTP doesn't transmit close the loop. So the new
text requires that the AC set the timer when it enters the Data Check
state, and it disables the timer if the WTP doesn't transmit the Data
Channel Keep Alive packet. I also added text to have the AC disable the
timer if it does receive the packet from the WTP.
 
Here is the proposed text:
<text>
2.3.  CAPWAP State Machine Definition
[...]
                            /-------------------------------------\
                            |          /-------------------------\|
                            |         w|                         ||
                            |    5+----------+ x +------------+  ||
                            |     |   Run    |-->|   Reset    |-\||
                            |     +----------+   +------------+ |||
                           6|  u      ^           ^     ^      y|||
                +------------+--------/           |     |       |||
                | Data Check |             /-------/    |       |||
                +------------+<-------\   |             |       |||
                                      |   |             |       |||
                       /------------------+--------\    |       |||
                      r|             t|  s|    4   v   o|       |||
               +--------+     +-----------+     +--------------+|||
               |  Join  |---->| Configure |     |  Image Data  ||||
               +--------+  q  +-----------+     +--------------+|||
                ^  p|                  V|                    x| |||
                |   |                   \-------------------\ | |||
                |   \--------------------------------------\| | |||
                \------------------------\                 || | |||
         /--------------<----------------+--------------\  || | |||
         | /------------<-------------\  |              |  || | |||
         | |                         m|  |n            z|  vv v vvv
         | |   +----------------+   +--------------+   +-----------+
         | |   |   DTLS Setup   |   | DTLS Connect |   |  DTLS TD  |
         | |   +----------------+   +--------------+   +-----------+
         | |    g|  ^     ^   |h         ^               ^
         v v     |  |     |   |          |               |
         | |     |  |     |   \-------\  |   /-----------/
         | |     |  |     |           |  |   |
         | |     v  |e   f|      2    v  |j  |k
         | \->+------+   +------+   +-----------+
         |    | Idle |-->| Disc |   | Authorize |
         \--->+------+ a +------+   +-----------+
              b|    ^           |c
               |    |      /----/
               v   d|      |
              +---------+  |
              | Sulking |<-/
            3 +---------+

[...]
   Configure to Data Check (t):  This state transition occurs when the
      WTP and AC confirm the configuration.
[...]

      AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the Change
         State Event Request message (see Section 8.6) from the WTP.
         The AC responds with a Change State Event Response message (see
         Section 8.7).  The AC MUST start the DataCheckTimer timer (see
         Section 4.7).

   Data Check to DTLS Teardown (6):  This transition occurs when the WTP
      does not complete the Data Check exchange.

      WTP:  This state transition occurs if the WTP does
            not receive the Change State Event Response before a CAPWAP
            transmission timeout occurs.

      AC:  The AC enters this state when the DataCheckTimer timer
         expires (see Section 4.7).

   Data Check to Run (u):  This state transition occurs when the linkage
      between the control and data channels has occured, causing the WTP
      and AC to enter their normal state of operation.
[...]

      AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the Data
         Channel Keep Alive packet (see Section 4.4.1), with a Session
         ID message element matching that included by the WTP in the
         Join Request message.  The AC disables the DataCheckTimer
         timer.  Note that if AC policy is to require the data channel
         to be encrypted, this process would also require the
         establishment of a data channel DTLS session.  Upon receiving
         the Data Channel Keep Alive packet, the AC transmits its own
         Data Channel Keep Alive packet.

4.7.  CAPWAP Protocol Timers
[...]
4.7.4.  DataCheckTimer

   The number of seconds the AC will wait for the Data Channel Keep
   Alive, which is required by the CAPWAP state machine's Data Check
   state.  The AC resets the state machine if this timer expires prior
   to transitioning to the next state.

   Default: 30
</text>

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The agreement during today's CAPWAP meeting was that this issue can now
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-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) 
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 3:21 PM
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Subject: [Capwap] Entering Image Data has no timeout

All,

Another issue that I ran across when removing the NeighborDead timer was
that it was being incorrectly used during the transition from Join to
Image Data. It's intent was to allow the AC to timeout if the WTP never
started the image data process. This issue (now Issue 23) is fixed by
having the AC set a timer when it enters the state, and reset the timer
when it receivers the first Image Data Request from the WTP. If no such
packet is ever received, it would cause a failure that would reset the
state machine.

<proposed text>
2.3.  CAPWAP State Machine Definition
[...]

   Join to Image Data (r):  This state transition is used by the WTP and
      the AC to download executable firmware.
[...]

      AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the Image
         Data Request message from the WTP.  The AC MUST transmit an
         Image Data Response message (see Section 9.1.2) to the WTP,
         which includes a portion of the firmware.  The AC MUST start
         the ImageDataStartTimer timer (see Section 4.7).

   Image Data to Image Data (4):  The Image Data state is used by the
      WTP and the AC during the firmware download phase.
[...]

      AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the Image
         Data Request message from the WTP while already in the Image
         Data state, and it detects that the firmware download has not
         completed.  The AC disables the ImageDataStartTimer timer if it
         was enabled.
   Image Data to Reset (o):  This state transition is used to reset the
      DTLS connection prior to restarting the WTP after an image
      download.
[...]

      AC:  The AC enters the Reset state when the image download is
         complete, if an error occurs during the image download process
         or if the ImageDataStartTimer timer expires.

4.7.  CAPWAP Protocol Timers
[...]

4.7.8.  ImageDataStartTimer

   The number of seconds the AC will wait for the WTP to initiate the
   Image Data process.

   Default: 30

</proposed text>

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From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) 
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Issue 24 created.
 
PatC

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Forwarding for an outside reader.

 -Bob

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From: Jeff Gembler [mailto:jgembler@intelleflex.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 1:55 PM
To: sag_ro_wg@lists.epcglobalinc.org
Subject: [sag_ro_wg] CAPWAP Spec, CAPWAP Header



 

I have been reading the CAPWAP spec:

 

    Network Working Group                                 P. Calhoun,
Editor

    Internet-Draft                                       Cisco Systems,
Inc.

    Expires: December 13, 2007                         M. Montemurro,
Editor

                                                          Research In
Motion

                                                          D. Stanley,
Editor

                                                              Aruba
Networks

                                                               June 11,
2007

 

                        CAPWAP Protocol Specification

                 draft-ietf-capwap-protocol-specification-07

 

 

Page 40 shows the binary encoding for the CAPWAP Header.

There is a text alignment problem on this page.  

The WBID field is shown as,  what would appear to be,  4.5 bits in
length.

The Flags field,  3.5 bits in length.

What is correct   5,3 bits ?  4,4 bits ?

 

 

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to RFC 4821 as being an optional mechanism for MTU discovery. This issue
will be considered closed, and I am changing the Tracker entry
accordingly.

<text>
3.5.  MTU Discovery

   Once a WTP has discovered the AC it wishes to establish a CAPWAP
   session with, it SHOULD perform a Path MTU (PMTU) discovery.  The MTU
   discovered is used to configure the DTLS component (see
   Section 2.3.2.1), while non-DTLS frames need to be fragmented to fit
   the MTU, defined in Section 3.4.  The procedures described in [14],
   for IPv4, or [15], for IPv6 SHOULD be used.  Alternatively,
   implementers MAY use the procedures defined in [12].  The WTP SHOULD
   also periodically re-evaluate the MTU using the guidelines provided
   in these two RFCs.

17.1.  Normative References
[...] 
   [12]  Mathis, M. and J. Heffner, "Packetization Layer Path MTU
         Discovery", RFC 4821, March 2007.
</text>

PatC 
-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) 
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 2:09 PM
To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou); Margaret Wasserman
Cc: capwap@frascone.com
Subject: RE: [Capwap] Issue 3: MTU Discovery Requirement

Here is the text to support this issue:

<text>
2.  Protocol Overview
[...]

   When the WTP and AC have completed the version and provision exchange
   and the WTP is enabled, the CAPWAP protocol is used to encapsulate
   the wireless data frames sent between the WTP and AC.  The CAPWAP
   protocol will fragment the L2 frames if the size of the encapsulated
   wireless user data (Data) or protocol control (Management) frames
   causes the resulting CAPWAP protocol packet to exceed the MTU
   supported between the WTP and AC.  Fragmented CAPWAP packets are
   reassembled to reconstitute the original encapsulated payload.  MTU
   Discovery and Fragmentation is described in section 3. 

2.3.2.1.  CAPWAP to DTLS Commands
[...]
   o  DTLSMtuUpdate is sent by the CAPWAP component to modify the MTU
      size used by the DTLS component.  See Section 3.5 for more
      information on MTU Discovery.  The default size is 1468 bytes.

2.4.3.  DTLS Error Handling
[...]
   There is currently only one encapsulation error defined: MTU
   exceeded.  As part of DTLS session establishment, the CAPWAP
   component informs the DTLS component of the MTU size.  This may be
   dynamically modified at any time when the CAPWAP component sends the
   DTLSMtuUpdate command to the DTLS component (see Section 2.3.2.1).
   The value provided to the DTLS stack is the result of the MTU
   Discovery process, which is described in Section 3.5.  The DTLS
   component returns this notification to the CAPWAP component whenever
   a transmission request will result in a packet which exceeds the MTU.

3.5.  MTU Discovery

   Once a WTP has discovered the AC it wishes to establish a CAPWAP
   session with, it SHOULD perform a Path MTU (PMTU) discovery.  The MTU
   discovered is used to configure the DTLS component (see Section
   2.3.2.1), while non-DTLS frames need to be fragmented to fit
   the MTU, defined in Section 3.4.  The procedures described in
   [14], for IPv4, or [15], for IPv6 SHOULD be used.  The WTP SHOULD
   also periodically re-evaluate the MTU using the guidelines provided
   in these two RFCs.

5.1.  Discovery Request Message
[...]
   Upon receiving a Discovery Request message, the AC will respond with
   a Discovery Response message sent to the address in the source
   address of the received Discovery Request message.  Once a Discovery
   Response has been received, if the WTP decides to establish a session
   with the responding AC, it SHOULD perform an MTU discovery, using the
   process described in Section 3.5.

14.  Transport Considerations
[...]
   It is necessary for the WTP and AC to configure their MTU based on
   the capabilities of the path.  See Section 3.5 for more
   information.
</text>

PatC
-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 4:24 PM
To: Margaret Wasserman
Cc: capwap@frascone.com
Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 3: MTU Discovery Requirement

My apologies. I sould have said RFC 1191 and 1981, which specify
ICMP-based Path MTU Discovery for IP versions 4 and 6, respectively. 

PatC

-----Original Message-----
From: Margaret Wasserman [mailto:margaret@thingmagic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 6:50 AM
To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)
Cc: capwap@frascone.com
Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 3: MTU Discovery Requirement


What would it mean to state that MTU discovery must be performed using
ICMP?  Is there a particular mechanism we'd reference?

Margaret

On Oct 12, 2007, at 2:40 PM, Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) wrote:

> This issue argues that CAPWAP needs to adopt an MTU discovery 
> mechanism, similar to that described in RFC 4821. Is it not acceptable

> to include text that simply states that MTU discovery must be 
> performed using ICMP?
>
> PatC
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All,

During today's face to face meeting, the group decided that this issue
was valid and we need to resolve it in the current protocol. I am
providing the proposed text changes to support the issue. 

Comments appreciated.

<base draft>

4.6.39.  Vendor Specific Payload

   The Vendor Specific Payload message element is used to communicate
   vendor specific information between the WTP and the AC.  The Vendor
   Specific Payload message element MAY be present in any CAPWAP
   message.  The message element uses the following format:

      0                   1                   2                   3
      0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
     |                       Vendor Identifier                       |
     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
     |          Element ID           |   Value...    |
     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+


5.1.  Discovery Request Message
[...]
   The following message elements MAY be included in the Discovery
   Request message:

   o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39

5.2.  Discovery Response Message
[...]
   The following message elements MAY be included in the Discovery
   Response message:

   o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39

5.3.  Primary Discovery Request Message
[...]

   The following message elements MAY be included in the Primary
   Discovery Request message:

   o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39

5.4.  Primary Discovery Response
[...]
   The following message elements MAY be included in the Primary
   Discovery Response message:

   o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39

6.1.  Join Request
[...]
   The following message element MAY be included in the Join Request
   message.
[...]
   o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39

6.2.  Join Response
[...]
   The following message elements MAY be included in the Join Response
   message.
[...]
   o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39

7.1.  Echo Request
[...]
   The following message elements MAY be included in the Echo Request
   message:

   o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39

7.2.  Echo Response
[...]
   The following message elements MAY be included in the Echo Response
   message:

   o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39

8.2.  Configuration Status
[...]
   The following message elements MAY be included in the Configuration
   Status message.

   o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39

8.3.  Configuration Status Response
[...]
   The following message element MAY be included in the Configuration
   Status Response message.
[...]
   o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39

8.4.  Configuration Update Request
[...]
   One or more of the following message elements MAY be included in the
   Configuration Update message.
[...]
   o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39

8.5.  Configuration Update Response
[...]
   The following message elements MAY be present in the Configuration
   Update Response message.
[...]
   o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39

8.6.  Change State Event Request
[...]
   One or more of the following message elements MAY be present in the
   Change State Event Request message.
[...]
   o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39

8.7.  Change State Event Response
[...]
   The following message elements MAY be included in the Change State
   Event Response message:

   o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39

8.8.  Clear Configuration Request
[...]
   The following message elements MAY be included in the Clear
   Configuration Request message:

   o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39

8.9.  Clear Configuration Response
[...]
   The following message elements MAY be included in the Clear
   Configuration Request message:

   o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39

9.1.1.  Image Data Request
[...]

   The following message elements MAY be included in the Image Data
   Request message.
[...]
   o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39

9.1.2.  Image Data Response
[...]
   The following message elements MAY be included in the Image Data
   Response message.
[...]
   o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39

9.2.  Reset Request
   The following message elements MAY be included in the Reset Request
   message:

   o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39

9.3.  Reset Response
[...]
   The following message element MAY be included in the Reset Response
   message.
[...]
   o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39

9.4.  WTP Event Request
[...]
   More than one of each messsage element
   listed MAY be included in the WTP Event Request message.
[...]
   o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39

9.5.  WTP Event Response
[...]
   The following message elements MAY be included in the WTP Event
   Response message:

   o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39

9.6.  Data Transfer Request
[...]
   The following message elements MAY be included in the Data Transfer
   Request message:

   o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39

9.7.  Data Transfer Response
[...]
   The following message elements MAY be included in the Data Transfer
   Response message:

   o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39

10.1.  Station Configuration Request
[...]
   More than one of each message
   element listed MAY be included in the Station Configuration Request
   message.
[...]
   o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39

10.2.  Station Configuration Response
[...]
   The following message elements MAY be included in the Station
   Configuration Response message:

   o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39

</base draft>


<binding draft>

3.1.  IEEE 802.11 WLAN Configuration Request
[...]
   The following message element MAY be present.
[...]
   o  Vendor Specific Payload, see [3]

3.2.  IEEE 802.11 WLAN Configuration Response
[...]
   The following message element MAY be present.
[...]
   o  Vendor Specific Payload, see [3]

</binding draft>

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These changes look good to me.

Margaret

On Dec 3, 2007, at 8:09 PM, Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) wrote:

> All,
>
> During today's face to face meeting, the group decided that this issue
> was valid and we need to resolve it in the current protocol. I am
> providing the proposed text changes to support the issue.
>
> Comments appreciated.
>
> <base draft>
>
> 4.6.39.  Vendor Specific Payload
>
>    The Vendor Specific Payload message element is used to communicate
>    vendor specific information between the WTP and the AC.  The Vendor
>    Specific Payload message element MAY be present in any CAPWAP
>    message.  The message element uses the following format:
>
>       0                   1                   2                   3
>       0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
>      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>      |                       Vendor Identifier                       |
>      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>      |          Element ID           |   Value...    |
>      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>
>
> 5.1.  Discovery Request Message
> [...]
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Discovery
>    Request message:
>
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 5.2.  Discovery Response Message
> [...]
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Discovery
>    Response message:
>
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 5.3.  Primary Discovery Request Message
> [...]
>
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Primary
>    Discovery Request message:
>
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 5.4.  Primary Discovery Response
> [...]
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Primary
>    Discovery Response message:
>
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 6.1.  Join Request
> [...]
>    The following message element MAY be included in the Join Request
>    message.
> [...]
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 6.2.  Join Response
> [...]
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Join Response
>    message.
> [...]
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 7.1.  Echo Request
> [...]
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Echo Request
>    message:
>
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 7.2.  Echo Response
> [...]
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Echo Response
>    message:
>
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 8.2.  Configuration Status
> [...]
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Configuration
>    Status message.
>
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 8.3.  Configuration Status Response
> [...]
>    The following message element MAY be included in the Configuration
>    Status Response message.
> [...]
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 8.4.  Configuration Update Request
> [...]
>    One or more of the following message elements MAY be included in  
> the
>    Configuration Update message.
> [...]
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 8.5.  Configuration Update Response
> [...]
>    The following message elements MAY be present in the Configuration
>    Update Response message.
> [...]
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 8.6.  Change State Event Request
> [...]
>    One or more of the following message elements MAY be present in the
>    Change State Event Request message.
> [...]
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 8.7.  Change State Event Response
> [...]
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Change State
>    Event Response message:
>
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 8.8.  Clear Configuration Request
> [...]
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Clear
>    Configuration Request message:
>
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 8.9.  Clear Configuration Response
> [...]
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Clear
>    Configuration Request message:
>
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 9.1.1.  Image Data Request
> [...]
>
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Image Data
>    Request message.
> [...]
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 9.1.2.  Image Data Response
> [...]
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Image Data
>    Response message.
> [...]
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 9.2.  Reset Request
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Reset Request
>    message:
>
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 9.3.  Reset Response
> [...]
>    The following message element MAY be included in the Reset Response
>    message.
> [...]
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 9.4.  WTP Event Request
> [...]
>    More than one of each messsage element
>    listed MAY be included in the WTP Event Request message.
> [...]
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 9.5.  WTP Event Response
> [...]
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the WTP Event
>    Response message:
>
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 9.6.  Data Transfer Request
> [...]
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Data Transfer
>    Request message:
>
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 9.7.  Data Transfer Response
> [...]
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Data Transfer
>    Response message:
>
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 10.1.  Station Configuration Request
> [...]
>    More than one of each message
>    element listed MAY be included in the Station Configuration Request
>    message.
> [...]
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 10.2.  Station Configuration Response
> [...]
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Station
>    Configuration Response message:
>
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> </base draft>
>
>
> <binding draft>
>
> 3.1.  IEEE 802.11 WLAN Configuration Request
> [...]
>    The following message element MAY be present.
> [...]
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see [3]
>
> 3.2.  IEEE 802.11 WLAN Configuration Response
> [...]
>    The following message element MAY be present.
> [...]
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see [3]
>
> </binding draft>
>
> PatC
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I wanted to provide a follow-up based on the conversation during the
meeting yesterday. The issue that is being raised in this issue is that
the state machine doesn't really work well on the AC. There is text that
states that the AC has a different "state context" per WTP, but right
now this would require that the AC maintains state during the discovery,
etc. However, we have all agreed that the AC should not have to do so.
So we agreed that we needed to provide more clarity on the state machine
that allows for the AC to provide services such as responding to
Discovery Requests, without explicitely maintaining per WTP state. 
 
I am working on modifications to the state machine, and expect to have
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This change looks good to me.

Margaret

On Dec 3, 2007, at 8:08 PM, Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) wrote:

> The agreement during today's CAPWAP meeting there was agreement  
> that the
> resolution to issue 3 was acceptable, with the addition to a reference
> to RFC 4821 as being an optional mechanism for MTU discovery. This  
> issue
> will be considered closed, and I am changing the Tracker entry
> accordingly.
>
> <text>
> 3.5.  MTU Discovery
>
>    Once a WTP has discovered the AC it wishes to establish a CAPWAP
>    session with, it SHOULD perform a Path MTU (PMTU) discovery.   
> The MTU
>    discovered is used to configure the DTLS component (see
>    Section 2.3.2.1), while non-DTLS frames need to be fragmented to  
> fit
>    the MTU, defined in Section 3.4.  The procedures described in [14],
>    for IPv4, or [15], for IPv6 SHOULD be used.  Alternatively,
>    implementers MAY use the procedures defined in [12].  The WTP  
> SHOULD
>    also periodically re-evaluate the MTU using the guidelines provided
>    in these two RFCs.
>
> 17.1.  Normative References
> [...]
>    [12]  Mathis, M. and J. Heffner, "Packetization Layer Path MTU
>          Discovery", RFC 4821, March 2007.
> </text>
>
> PatC
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 2:09 PM
> To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou); Margaret Wasserman
> Cc: capwap@frascone.com
> Subject: RE: [Capwap] Issue 3: MTU Discovery Requirement
>
> Here is the text to support this issue:
>
> <text>
> 2.  Protocol Overview
> [...]
>
>    When the WTP and AC have completed the version and provision  
> exchange
>    and the WTP is enabled, the CAPWAP protocol is used to encapsulate
>    the wireless data frames sent between the WTP and AC.  The CAPWAP
>    protocol will fragment the L2 frames if the size of the  
> encapsulated
>    wireless user data (Data) or protocol control (Management) frames
>    causes the resulting CAPWAP protocol packet to exceed the MTU
>    supported between the WTP and AC.  Fragmented CAPWAP packets are
>    reassembled to reconstitute the original encapsulated payload.  MTU
>    Discovery and Fragmentation is described in section 3.
>
> 2.3.2.1.  CAPWAP to DTLS Commands
> [...]
>    o  DTLSMtuUpdate is sent by the CAPWAP component to modify the MTU
>       size used by the DTLS component.  See Section 3.5 for more
>       information on MTU Discovery.  The default size is 1468 bytes.
>
> 2.4.3.  DTLS Error Handling
> [...]
>    There is currently only one encapsulation error defined: MTU
>    exceeded.  As part of DTLS session establishment, the CAPWAP
>    component informs the DTLS component of the MTU size.  This may be
>    dynamically modified at any time when the CAPWAP component sends  
> the
>    DTLSMtuUpdate command to the DTLS component (see Section 2.3.2.1).
>    The value provided to the DTLS stack is the result of the MTU
>    Discovery process, which is described in Section 3.5.  The DTLS
>    component returns this notification to the CAPWAP component  
> whenever
>    a transmission request will result in a packet which exceeds the  
> MTU.
>
> 3.5.  MTU Discovery
>
>    Once a WTP has discovered the AC it wishes to establish a CAPWAP
>    session with, it SHOULD perform a Path MTU (PMTU) discovery.   
> The MTU
>    discovered is used to configure the DTLS component (see Section
>    2.3.2.1), while non-DTLS frames need to be fragmented to fit
>    the MTU, defined in Section 3.4.  The procedures described in
>    [14], for IPv4, or [15], for IPv6 SHOULD be used.  The WTP SHOULD
>    also periodically re-evaluate the MTU using the guidelines provided
>    in these two RFCs.
>
> 5.1.  Discovery Request Message
> [...]
>    Upon receiving a Discovery Request message, the AC will respond  
> with
>    a Discovery Response message sent to the address in the source
>    address of the received Discovery Request message.  Once a  
> Discovery
>    Response has been received, if the WTP decides to establish a  
> session
>    with the responding AC, it SHOULD perform an MTU discovery,  
> using the
>    process described in Section 3.5.
>
> 14.  Transport Considerations
> [...]
>    It is necessary for the WTP and AC to configure their MTU based on
>    the capabilities of the path.  See Section 3.5 for more
>    information.
> </text>
>
> PatC
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)
> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 4:24 PM
> To: Margaret Wasserman
> Cc: capwap@frascone.com
> Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 3: MTU Discovery Requirement
>
> My apologies. I sould have said RFC 1191 and 1981, which specify
> ICMP-based Path MTU Discovery for IP versions 4 and 6, respectively.
>
> PatC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Margaret Wasserman [mailto:margaret@thingmagic.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 6:50 AM
> To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)
> Cc: capwap@frascone.com
> Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 3: MTU Discovery Requirement
>
>
> What would it mean to state that MTU discovery must be performed using
> ICMP?  Is there a particular mechanism we'd reference?
>
> Margaret
>
> On Oct 12, 2007, at 2:40 PM, Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) wrote:
>
>> This issue argues that CAPWAP needs to adopt an MTU discovery
>> mechanism, similar to that described in RFC 4821. Is it not  
>> acceptable
>
>> to include text that simply states that MTU discovery must be
>> performed using ICMP?
>>
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All,

I had included the wrong text from version 8 of the draft below. The
broken
text follows. The issue, once more, was the reference to forgoing the
authorization check.

<old text>
   Authorize to DTLS Connect (j):  This transition occurs to notify the
      DTLS stack that the session should be established.

      WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP has either opted
         to forgo the authorization check of the AC's credentials, or
         the credentials were successfully authorized.  This is done by
         invoking the DTLSAccept DTLS command (see Section 2.3.2.1).

      AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC has either opted to
         forgo the authorization check of the WTP's credentials, or the
         credentials were successfully authorized.  This is done by
         invoking the DTLSAccept DTLS command (see Section
2.3.2.1).</old text>


We are fixing this by making the authorization phase mandatory, and
providing
some guidance on the authorization process:

<text>
   Authorize to DTLS Connect (g):  This transition occurs to notify the
      DTLS stack that the session should be established.

      WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP has successfully
         authorized the AC's credentials (see Section 2.4.4).  This is
         done by invoking the DTLSAccept DTLS command (see
         Section 2.3.2.1).

      AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC has successfully
         authorized the WTP's credentials (see Section 2.4.4).  This is
         done by invoking the DTLSAccept DTLS command (see
         Section 2.3.2.1).

2.4.4.3.  Certificate Usage
[...]
   ACs and WTPs MUST authorize (e.g. through access control lists)
   certificates of devices to which they are connecting, e.g., based on
   the isuer, MAC address, or organizational information specified in
   the certificate.  The identities specified in the certificates bind a
   particular DTLS session to a specific pair of mutually-authenticated
   and authorized MAC addresses.  The particulars of authorization
   filter construction are implementation details which are, for the
   most part, not within the scope of this specification.  However, at
   minimum, all devices MUST verify that the appropriate EKU bit is set
   according to the role of the peer device (AC vs. WTP), and that the
   issuer of the certificate is appropriate for the domain in question.

</text>

PatC 

-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) 
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 12:43 PM
To: capwap@frascone.com
Subject: [Capwap] Issue 31: Peer Authorization is optional

The draft currently makes peer authorization optional. We need to make
it mandatory, but allow for the authorization to be lightweight (e.g.,
check against an ACL that has a default permit rule).

The text is:

   Authorize to DTLS Teardown (k):  This transition occurs to notify the
      DTLS stack that the session should be aborted.

      WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP was unable to
         authorize the AC, using the AC credentials.  The WTP then
         aborts the DTLS session by invoking the DTLSAbortSession
         command (see Section 2.3.2.1).

      AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC was unable to
         authorize the WTP, using the WTP credentials.  The AC then
         aborts the DTLS session by invoking the DTLSAbortSession
         command (see Section 2.3.2.1).

PatC
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All,

I wanted to send the new state machine in order to get as many eyes on
this one as possible. I have done what I believe is a very thorough
review, but this is a complex state machine. I will also include all of
the state machine text in order to make it simpler to review. Note that
other than the teardown, no changes were made from the join/config
states on (meaning, only the lower part of the state machine figure was
modified).

Since there is significant text here, I want to provide a little bit of
information on how this now works:
- The WTP behaves pretty much the same as before, meaning that it uses a
single state context. When a connection attempt fails, the state machine
goes back to the Idle state, unless some counters have hit a threshold,
in which case the state transitions to the Sulking state. As before the
WTP can do the Discovery phase, in which case either state (5) or (c) is
used. 
- The AC now defines two separate threads; Listener and Service. The
Listener is the main thread that handles the discovery messages. Once a
connection request is received, it spawns a Service thread to deal with
the WTP. You will notice that the new state machine uses numerals when
it applies either only to the WTP, or to the Listener thread. All state
transitions that use alphabetic, or symbols, is for the Service thread
or the WTP. The biggest difference in how the state machines work is
that on the AC, when a connection is being established, and fails, the
Service thread's state moves back to the DTLS Setup state, not Idle.
When the error thresholds are hit, the state moves to Sulking - the
quiet period. You will also notice a new Dead state, which is ONLY valid
for the Service thread, which is where the thread is terminated, and
resources are freed.
 
Comments welcomed,

PatC


<text>
2.3.  CAPWAP State Machine Definition

   The following state diagram represents the lifecycle of a WTP-AC
   session.  Use of DTLS by the CAPWAP protocol results in the
   juxtaposition of two nominally separate yet tightly bound state
   machines.  The DTLS and CAPWAP state machines are coupled through an
   API consisting of commands (see Section 2.3.2.1) and notifications
   (see Section 2.3.2.2).  Certain transitions in the DTLS state machine
   are triggered by commands from the CAPWAP state machine, while
   certain transitions in the CAPWAP state machine are triggered by
   notifications from the DTLS state machine.

                            /-------------------------------------\
                            |          /-------------------------\|
                            |         w|                         ||
                            |    x+----------+ y +------------+  ||
                            |     |   Run    |-->|   Reset    |-\||
                            |     +----------+   +------------+ |||
                           u|  V      ^           ^     ^      z|||
                +------------+--------/           |     |       |||
                | Data Check |             /-------/    |       |||
                +------------+<-------\   |             |       |||
                                      |   |             |       |||
                       /------------------+--------\    |       |||
                      m|             t|  o|    q   v   r|       |||
               +--------+     +-----------+     +--------------+|||
               |  Join  |---->| Configure |     |  Image Data  ||||
               +--------+  n  +-----------+     +--------------+|||
                ^   |l                 p|                    s| |||
                |   |                   \-------------------\ | |||
                |   \--------------------------------------\| | |||
                \------------------------\                 || | |||
         /--------------<----------------+---------------\ || | |||
         | /------------<----------------+-------------\ | || | |||
         | |                      i      |k           8| | vv v vvv
         | |  d+----------------+<--+--------------+   +-----------+
       /-|-|---|   DTLS Setup   |   | DTLS Connect |-->|  DTLS TD  |
       | | |   +----------------+e  +--------------+ 7 +-----------+
       | | |   6|   ^      ^  |f         ^       j|      ^  |~
       v v v    |   |      |  |          |        |      |  |
       | | |    |   |      |  \-------\  |   /----+------/  |
       | | |    |   |      |          |  |   |    \---\     |
       | | |    v  c|  1   |5    2    v  |g  |h       v     v
       | | \->+------+-->+------+   +-----------+    +--------+
       | |    | Idle |   | Disc |   | Authorize |    |  Dead  |
       | |    +------+<--+------+   +-----------+    +--------+
       | |        ^    0      |3                         ^
       | |        |           |                          |b
       | |9       |4          |                          |
       | \->+---------+<------/                          |
       \--->| Sulking |----------------------------------/
            +---------+
                      a

                 Figure 3: CAPWAP Integrated State Machine

   The CAPWAP protocol state machine, depicted above, is used by both
   the AC and the WTP.  In cases where states are not shared (i.e. not
   implemented in one or the other of the AC or WTP), this is explicitly
   called out in the transition descriptions below.  For every state

   defined, only certain messages are permitted to be sent and received.
   The CAPWAP control messages definitions specify the state(s) in which
   each message is valid.

   Since the WTP only communicates with a single AC, it only has a
   single instance of the CAPWAP state machine.  The state machine works
   differently on the AC since it communicates with many WTPs.  The AC
   uses the concept of two threads.  Note that the term thread used here
   does not necessarily imply that implementers must use threads, but it
   is one possible way of implementing the AC's state machine.

   Listener Thread -   The AC's Listener thread handles the shared
      services, which includes receiving and responding to Discovery
      Requests.  The Listener thread handles the common tasks, up to the
      DTLS Setup state.  The state machine transitions in the above
      figure are represented by numerals.

   Service Thread -   The AC's Service thread handles the per WTP
      states, and one such thread exists per WTP connection.  This
      thread starts during the DTLS Setup state, which is when the
      DTLSListen command is invoked.  When created, the Service thread
      inherits a copy of the state machine context from the Listener
      thread.  When communication with the WTP is complete, the Service
      thread is terminated.  The state machine transitions in the above
      figure are represented by alphabetic characters (including
      symbols).

2.3.1.  CAPWAP Protocol State Transitions

   This section describes the various state transitions, and the events
   that cause them.  This section does not discuss interactions between
   DTLS- and CAPWAP-specific states.  Those interactions, and DTLS-
   specific states and transitions, are discussed in Section 2.3.2.

   Idle to Discovery (1):  This transition occurs once device
      initialization is complete.

      WTP:  The WTP enters the Discovery state prior to transmitting the
         first Discovery Request message (see Section 5.1).  Upon
         entering this state, the WTP sets the DiscoveryInterval timer
         (see Section 4.7).  The WTP resets the DiscoveryCount counter
         to zero (0) (see Section 4.8).  The WTP also clears all
         information from ACs it may have received during a previous
         Discovery phase.

      AC:  This state transition is executed by the AC's Listener
         thread, and occurs when a Discovery Request message is
         received.  The AC SHOULD respond with a Discovery Response
         message (see Section 5.2).  The AC SHOULD NOT maintain WTP
         state at this point (see Section 12 for more information).

   Discovery to Discovery (2):  In the Discovery state, the WTP
      determines which AC to connect to.

      WTP:  This transition occurs when the DiscoveryInterval timer
         expires.  If the WTP is configured with a list of ACs, it
         transmits a Discovery Request message to every AC from which it
         has not received a Discovery Response message.  For every
         transition to this event, the WTP increments the DiscoveryCount
         counter.  See Section 5.1 for more information on how the WTP
         knows the ACs to which it should transmit the Discovery Request
         messages.  The WTP restarts the DiscoveryInterval timer
         whenever it transmits Discovery Request messages.

      AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.

   Discovery to Idle (0):  This transition occurs on the AC's Listener
      thread when the Discovery processing is complete.

      WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.

      AC:  This state transition is executed by the AC's Listener thread
         when it has transmitted the Discovery Response, in response to
         a Discovery Request.

   Discovery to Sulking (3):  This transition occurs on a WTP when AC
      Discovery fails.

      WTP:  The WTP enters this state when the DiscoveryInterval timer
         expires and the DiscoveryCount variable is equal to the
         MaxDiscoveries variable (see Section 4.8).  Upon entering this
         state, the WTP MUST start the SilentInterval timer.  While in
         the Sulking state, all received CAPWAP protocol messages
         received MUST be ignored.

      AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.

   Sulking to Idle (4):  This transition occurs on a WTP when it must
      restart the discovery phase.

      WTP:  The WTP enters this state when the SilentInterval timer (see
         Section 4.7) expires.  The FailedDTLSSessionCount,
         DiscoveryCount and FailedDTLSAuthFailCount counters are reset
         to zero.

      AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.

   Sulking to Sulking (a):  The Sulking state provides the silent
      period, minimizing the possibility for Denial of Service (DoS)
      attacks.

      WTP:  All packets received from the AC while in the sulking state
         are ignored.

      AC:  All packets receive from the WTP on the AC's Service thread,
         while in the sulking state, are ignored.

   Sulking to Dead (b):  This transition occurs on the AC when the quiet
      period expires.

      WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.

      AC:  The AC enters this state when the SilentInterval timer (see
         Section 4.7) expires.  The AC must clean up all resources
         associated with the control plane DTLS session.  The data plane
         DTLS session is also shutdown, and all resources freed, if a
         DTLS session was established for the data plane.  Any timers
         set for the current instance of the state machine are also
         cleared.  The AC's Service thread is terminated.

   Idle to DTLS Setup (c):  This transition occurs to establish a secure
      DTLS session with the peer.

      WTP:  The WTP initiates this transition by invoking the DTLSStart
         command, which starts the DTLS session establishment with the
         chosen AC.  When the discovery phase is bypassed, it is assumed
         the WTP has locally configured ACs.

      AC:  The AC initiates this transition by invoking the DTLSListen
         command (see Section 2.3.2.1), which informs the DTLS stack
         that it is willing to listen for an incoming session.  The AC's
         Listener thread forks an instance of the Service thread, along
         with a copy of the state context.  If the AC had maintained WTP
         state information during the Discovery exchange, or through
         some other means that may include static configuration of WTPs,
         the AC MAY provide optional qualifiers in the DTLSListen
         command to only accept session requests a specific WTP.  Note
         that the AC SHOULD NOT maintain state information based on an
         unsecured Discovery Request message, as this can lead to a
         Denial of Service attack (see Section 12).  In such instances,
         the AC MUST ensure that this state information is freed after a
         period, which is implementation specific.

   Discovery to DTLS Setup (5):  This transition occurs to establish a
      secure DTLS session with the peer.

      WTP:  The WTP initiates this transition by invoking the DTLSStart
         command (see Section 2.3.2.1), which starts the DTLS session
         establishment with the chosen AC.  The decision of which AC to
         connect to is the result of the discovery phase, which is
         described in Section 3.3.

      AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.

   DTLS Setup to Idle (6):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
      connection setup has failed.

      WTP:  The WTP initiates this state transition when it receives a
         DTLSEstablishFail notification from DTLS (see Section 2.3.2.2),
         and the FailedDTLSSessionCount or the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount
         counter have not reached the value of the
         MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section 4.8).  This
         error notification aborts the secure DTLS session
         establishment.  When this notification is received, the
         FailedDTLSSessionCount counter is incremented.

      AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.

   DTLS Setup to Sulking (d):  This transition occurs when repeated
      attempts to setup the DTLS connection have failed.

      WTP:  The WTP enters this state when the FailedDTLSSessionCount or
         the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount counter reaches the value of the
         MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section 4.8).  Upon
         entering this state, the WTP MUST start the SilentInterval
         timer.  While in the Sulking state, all received CAPWAP and
         DTLS protocol messages received MUST be ignored.

      AC:  The AC enters this state with the specific WTP when the
         FailedDTLSSessionCount or the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount counter
         reaches MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section 4.8).
         Upon entering this state, the AC's Service thread MUST start
         the SilentInterval timer, and ignore all CAPWAP and DTLS
         protocol messages received from the WTP.  The AC immediately
         transitions the state to Idle.

   DTLS Setup to DTLS Setup (e):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
      Session failed to be established.

      WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.

      AC:  The AC initiates this state transition by the Service thread
         when it receives a DTLSEstablishFail notification from DTLS
         (see Section 2.3.2.2).  This error notification aborts the
         secure DTLS session establishment.  When this notification is
         received, the FailedDTLSSessionCount counter is incremented.

   DTLS Setup to Authorize (f):  This transition occurs when an incoming
      DTLS session is being established, and the DTLS stack needs
      authorization to proceed with the session establishment.

      WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives the
         DTLSPeerAuthorize notification (see Section 2.3.2.2).  Upon
         entering this state, the WTP performs an authorization check
         against the AC credentials.  See Section 2.4.4 for more
         information on AC authorization.

      AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the
         DTLSPeerAuthorize notification (see Section 2.3.2.2).  Upon
         entering this state, the AC performs an authorization check
         against the WTP credentials.  See Section 2.4.4 for more
         information on WTP authorization.

   Authorize to DTLS Connect (g):  This transition occurs to notify the
      DTLS stack that the session should be established.

      WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP has successfully
         authorized the AC's credentials (see Section 2.4.4).  This is
         done by invoking the DTLSAccept DTLS command (see
         Section 2.3.2.1).

      AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC has successfully
         authorized the WTP's credentials (see Section 2.4.4).  This is
         done by invoking the DTLSAccept DTLS command (see
         Section 2.3.2.1).

   Authorize to DTLS Teardown (h):  This transition occurs to notify the
      DTLS stack that the session should be aborted.

      WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP was unable to
         authorize the AC, using the AC credentials.  The WTP then
         aborts the DTLS session by invoking the DTLSAbortSession
         command (see Section 2.3.2.1).

      AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC was unable to
         authorize the WTP, using the WTP credentials.  The AC then
         aborts the DTLS session by invoking the DTLSAbortSession
         command (see Section 2.3.2.1).

   DTLS Connect to DTLS Teardown (7):  This transition occurs when the
      DTLS Session failed to be established.

      WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives either a
         DTLSAborted or DTLSAuthenticateFail notification (see
         Section 2.3.2.2), indicating that the DTLS session was not
         successfully established.  When this transition occurs due to
         the DTLSAuthenticateFail notification, the
         FailedDTLSAuthFailCount is incremented, otherwise the
         FailedDTLSSessionCount counter is incremented.

      AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.

   DTLS Connect to DTLS Setup (i):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
      Session failed to be established.

      WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.

      AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives either a
         DTLSAborted or DTLSAuthenticateFail notification (see
         Section 2.3.2.2), indicating that the DTLS session was not
         successfully established, and both of the
         FailedDTLSAuthFailCount and FailedDTLSSessionCount counters
         have not reached the value of the MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry
         variable (see Section 4.8).

   DTLS Connect to Dead (j):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
      Session failed to be established.

      WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.

      AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives either a
         DTLSAborted or DTLSAuthenticateFail notification (see
         Section 2.3.2.2), indicating that the DTLS session was not
         successfully established, and either the
         FailedDTLSAuthFailCount and FailedDTLSSessionCount counters
         have reached the value of the MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry
         variable (see Section 4.8).

   DTLS Connect to Join (k):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
      Session is successfully established.

      WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives the
         DTLSEstablished notification (see Section 2.3.2.2), indicating
         that the DTLS session was successfully established.  When this
         notification is received, the FailedDTLSSessionCount counter is
         set to zero.

      AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the
         DTLSEstablished notification (see Section 2.3.2.2), indicating
         that the DTLS session was successfully established.  When this
         notification is received, the FailedDTLSSessionCount counter is
         set to zero, and the WaitJoin timer is started (see
         Section 4.7).

   Join to DTLS Teardown (l):  This transition occurs when the join
      process failed.

      WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives a Join
         Response message with a Result Code message element containing
         an error, if the Image Identifier provided by the AC in the
         Join Response message differs from the WTP's currently running
         firmware version and the WTP has the requested image in its
         non-volatile memory, or if the WaitDTLS timer expires.  This
         causes the WTP to initiate the DTLSShutdown command (see
         Section 2.3.2.1).  This transition also occurs if the WTP
         receives one of the following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
         DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect.

      AC:  This state transition occurs either if the WaitJoin timer
         expires or if the AC transmits a Join Response message with a
         Result Code message element containing an error.  This causes
         the AC to initiate the DTLSShutdown command (see
         Section 2.3.2.1).  This transition also occurs if the AC
         receives one of the following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
         DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect.

   Join to Image Data (m):  This state transition is used by the WTP and
      the AC to download executable firmware.

      WTP:  The WTP enters the Image Data state when it receives a
         successful Join Response message and determines and the
         included Image Identifier message element is not the same as
         its currently running image.  The WTP also detects that the
         requested image version is not currently available in the WTP's
         non-volatile storage (see Section 9.1 for a full description of
         the firmware download process).  The WTP initializes the
         EchoInterval timer (see Section 4.7), and transmits the Image
         Data Request message (see Section 9.1.1) requesting the start
         of the firmware download.

      AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the Image
         Data Request message from the WTP.  The AC MUST transmit an
         Image Data Response message (see Section 9.1.2) to the WTP,
         which includes a portion of the firmware.  The AC MUST start
         the ImageDataStartTimer timer (see Section 4.7).

   Join to Configure (n):  This state transition is used by the WTP and
      the AC to exchange configuration information.

      WTP:  The WTP enters the Configure state when it receives a
         successful Join Response, and determines that the included
         Image Identifier message element is the same as its currently
         running image.  The WTP transmits the Configuration Status
         message (see Section 8.2) to the AC with message elements
         describing its current configuration.  The WTP also starts the
         ResponseTimeout timer (see Section 4.7).

      AC:  This state transition occurs immediately after the AC
         transmits the Join Response message to the WTP.  If the AC
         receives the Configuration Status message from the WTP, the AC
         MUST transmit a Configuration Status Response message (see
         Section 8.3) to the WTP, and MAY include specific message
         elements to override the WTP's configuration.  The AC also
         starts the ChangeStatePendingTimer timer (see Section 4.7).

   Configure to Reset (o):  This state transition is used to reset the
      connection either due to an error during the configuration phase,
      or when the WTP determines it needs to reset in order for the new
      configuration to take effect.

      WTP:  The WTP enters the Reset state when it receives a
         Configuration Status Response indicating an error or when it
         determines that a reset of the WTP is required, due to the
         characteristics of a new configuration.

      AC:  The AC transitions to the Reset state when it receives a
         Change State Event message from the WTP that contains an error
         for which AC policy does not permit the WTP to provide service.
         This state transition also occurs when the AC
         ChangeStatePendingTimer timer expires.

   Configure to DTLS Teardown (p):  This transition occurs when the
      configuration process aborts due to a DTLS error.

      WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives one of the
         following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
         DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
         Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS session if it
         receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.

      AC:  The AC enters this state when it receives one of the
         following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
         DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
         Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS session if it
         receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.

   Image Data to Image Data (q):  The Image Data state is used by the
      WTP and the AC during the firmware download phase.

      WTP:  The WTP enters the Image Data state when it receives an
         Image Data Response message indicating that the AC has more
         data to send.

      AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the Image
         Data Request message from the WTP while already in the Image
         Data state.  The AC resets the ImageDataStartTimer timer.

   Image Data to Reset (r):  This state transition is used to reset the
      DTLS connection prior to restarting the WTP after an image
      download.

      WTP:  When an image download completes, the WTP enters the Reset
         state.  The WTP MAY also transition to this state upon
         receiving an Image Data Response message from the AC (see
         Section 9.1.2) indicating a failure.

      AC:  The AC enters the Reset state when an error occurs during the
         image download process or if the ImageDataStartTimer timer
         expires.

   Image Data to DTLS Teardown (s):  This transition occurs when the
      firmware download process aborts due to a DTLS error.

      WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives one of the
         following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
         DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
         Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS session if it
         receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.

      AC:  The AC enters this state when it receives one of the
         following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
         DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
         Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS session if it
         receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.

   Configure to Data Check (t):  This state transition occurs when the
      WTP and AC confirm the configuration.

      WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives a successful
         Configuration Status Response message from the AC.  The WTP
         initializes the EchoInterval timer (see Section 4.7), and
         transmits the Change State Event Request message (see
         Section 8.6).

      AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the Change
         State Event Request message (see Section 8.6) from the WTP.
         The AC responds with a Change State Event Response message (see
         Section 8.7).  The AC MUST start the DataCheckTimer timer (see
         Section 4.7).

   Data Check to DTLS Teardown (u):  This transition occurs when the WTP
      does not complete the Data Check exchange.

      WTP:  This state transition occurs if the WTP does not receive the
         Change State Event Response before a CAPWAP transmission
         timeout occurs.

      AC:  The AC enters this state when the DataCheckTimer timer
         expires (see Section 4.7).

   Data Check to Run (V):  This state transition occurs when the linkage
      between the control and data channels has occured, causing the WTP
      and AC to enter their normal state of operation.

      WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives a successful
         Change State Event Response message from the AC.  The WTP
         initiates the data channel, which MAY require the establishment
         of a DTLS session, starts the DataChannelKeepAlive timer (see
         Section 4.7) and transmits a Data Channel Keep Alive packet
         (see Section 4.4.1).  The WTP then starts the
         DataChannelDeadInterval timer (see Section 4.7).

      AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the Data
         Channel Keep Alive packet (see Section 4.4.1), with a Session
         ID message element matching that included by the WTP in the
         Join Request message.  The AC disables the DataCheckTimer
         timer.  Note that if AC policy is to require the data channel
         to be encrypted, this process would also require the
         establishment of a data channel DTLS session.  Upon receiving
         the Data Channel Keep Alive packet, the AC transmits its own
         Data Channel Keep Alive packet.

   Run to DTLS Teardown (w):  This state transition occurs when an error
      has occured in the DTLS stack, causing the DTLS session to be
      torndown.

      WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives one of the
         following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
         DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
         Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS session if it
         receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.  The WTP also
         transitions to this state if the underlying reliable
         transport's RetransmitCount counter has reached the
         MaxRetransmit variable (see Section 4.7).

      AC:  The AC enters this state when it receives one of the
         following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
         DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
         Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS session if it
         receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.  The AC
         transitions to this state if the underlying reliable
         transport's RetransmitCount counter has reached the
         MaxRetransmit variable (see Section 4.7).

   Run to Run (x):  This is the normal state of operation.

      WTP:  This is the WTP's normal state of operation.  There are many
         events that result this state transition:

         Configuration Update:  The WTP receives a Configuration Update
            Request message(see Section 8.4).  The WTP MUST respond with
            a Configuration Update Response message (see Section 8.5).

         Change State Event:  The WTP receives a Change State Event
            Response message, or determines that it must initiate a
            Change State Event Request message, as a result of a failure
            or change in the state of a radio.

         Echo Request:  The WTP sends an Echo Request message
            (Section 7.1) or receives the corresponding Echo Response
            message, (see Section 7.2) from the AC.

         Clear Config Request:  The WTP receives a Clear Configuration
            Request message (see Section 8.8).  The WTP MUST reset its
            configuration back to manufacturer defaults.

         WTP Event:  The WTP sends a WTP Event Request message,
            delivering information to the AC (see Section 9.4).  The WTP
            receives a WTP Event Response message from the AC (see
            Section 9.5).

         Data Transfer:  The WTP sends a Data Transfer Request message
            to the AC (see Section 9.6).  The WTP receives a Data
            Transfer Response message from the AC (see Section 9.7).

         Station Configuration Request:  The WTP receives a Station
            Configuration Request message (see Section 10.1), to which
            it MUST respond with a Station Configuration Response
            message (see Section 10.2).

      AC:  This is the AC's normal state of operation:

         Configuration Update:  The AC sends a Configuration Update
            Request message (see Section 8.4) to the WTP to update its
            configuration.  The AC receives a Configuration Update
            Response message (see Section 8.5) from the WTP.

         Change State Event:  The AC receives a Change State Event
            Request message (see Section 8.6), to which it MUST respond
            with the Change State Event Response message (see
            Section 8.7).

         Echo Request:  The AC receives an Echo Request message (see
            Section 7.1), to which it MUST respond with an Echo Response
            message(see Section 7.2).

         Clear Config Response:  The AC receives a Clear Configuration
            Response message from the WTP (see Section 8.9).

         WTP Event:  The AC receives a WTP Event Request message from
            the WTP (see Section 9.4) and MUST generate a corresponding
            WTP Event Response message (see Section 9.5).

         Data Transfer:  The AC receives a Data Transfer Request message
            from the WTP (see Section 9.6) and MUST generate a
            corresponding Data Transfer Response message (see
            Section 9.7).

         Station Configuration Request:  The AC sends a Station
            Configuration Request message (see Section 10.1) or receives
            the corresponding Station Configuration Response message
            (see Section 10.2) from the WTP.

   Run to Reset (y):  This state transition is used when either the AC
      or WTP tear down the connection.  This may occur as part of normal
      operation, or due to error conditions.

      WTP:  The WTP enters the Reset state when it receives a Reset
         Request message from the AC.

      AC:  The AC enters the Reset state when it transmits a Reset
         Request message to the WTP.

   Reset to DTLS Teardown (z):  This transition occurs when the CAPWAP
      reset is complete, to terminate the DTLS session.

      WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives a Reset
         Response message.  This causes the WTP to initiate the
         DTLSShutdown command (see Section 2.3.2.1).

      AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC transmits a Reset
         Response message.  The AC does not invoke the DTLSShutdown
         command (see Section 2.3.2.1).

   DTLS Teardown to Idle (8):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
      session has been shutdown.

      WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP has successfully
         cleaned up all resources associated with the control plane DTLS
         session.  The data plane DTLS session is also shutdown, and all
         resources freed, if a DTLS session was established for the data
         plane.  Any timers set for the current instance of the state
         machine are also cleared.

      AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.

   DTLS Teardown to Sulking (9):  This transition occurs when repeated
      attempts to setup the DTLS connection have failed.

      WTP:  The WTP enters this state when the FailedDTLSSessionCount or
         the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount counter reaches the value of the
         MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section 4.8).  Upon
         entering this state, the WTP MUST start the SilentInterval
         timer.  While in the Sulking state, all received CAPWAP and
         DTLS protocol messages received MUST be ignored.

      AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.

   DTLS Teardown to Dead (~):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
      session has been shutdown.

      WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.

      AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC has successfully
         cleaned up all resources associated with the control plane DTLS
         session.  The data plane DTLS session is also shutdown, and all
         resources freed, if a DTLS session was established for the data
         plane.  Any timers set for the current instance of the state
         machine are also cleared.  The AC's Service thread is
         terminated.

12.3.  Discovery Attacks
[...]
   Some implementations may wish to pass information about clients who
   have passed the discovery phase to the DTLS layer, authorizing only
   those clients to initiate a DTLS handshake.  Note that the impact of
   this on mitigating denial of service attacks against the DTLS layer
   is minimal, because DTLS already uses client-side cookies to minimize
   processor consumption attacks.  As a result, implementations SHOULD
   NOT maintain state between the discovery and DTLS handshake phases of
   the CAPWAP protocol initialization.

</text> 

PatC
-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) 
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:17 AM
To: capwap
Subject: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking on AC prior to
DTLSEstablishment

I wanted to provide a follow-up based on the conversation during the
meeting yesterday. The issue that is being raised in this issue is that
the state machine doesn't really work well on the AC. There is text that
states that the AC has a different "state context" per WTP, but right
now this would require that the AC maintains state during the discovery,
etc. However, we have all agreed that the AC should not have to do so.
So we agreed that we needed to provide more clarity on the state machine
that allows for the AC to provide services such as responding to
Discovery Requests, without explicitely maintaining per WTP state. 
 
I am working on modifications to the state machine, and expect to have
this sent to the list later today.
 
PatC
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CAPWAP has the same ipv6 udp checksum problem as MBONED. You have
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http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/mboned/current/msg00401.html ).=20
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a) When do you expect rfc2460-modify draft to get published?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D202082421-07122007>CAPWAP =
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The individual submissions

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CAPWAP protocol base MIB draft:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-yangshi-capwap-base-mib-01.txt

CAPWAP protocol 802.11binding MIB draft
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-yangshi-capwap-802dot11-mib-01
.txt

=20

are now in the IETF repository. The IETF70 session saw Richard
presenting on this version.

=20

During the meeting there was general consensus and acceptance by
reviewing MIB experts that it is good enough to be accepted as WG item;
with the caveat that

the WG has to decide from the CAPWAP standpoint that it needs a MIB; and
that it finds this MIB draft work relevant enough to make it a WG item.

We found consensus for both in the meeting to the extent the
presentation

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Please review the draft and comment on whether you believe the drafts
can and should be adopted as WG items to address the charter requirement
of MIB support.

=20

-mani

________________________________

From: Mani, Mahalingam (Mani) [mailto:mmani@avaya.com]=20
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 8:49 AM
To: capwap
Subject: [Capwap] CAPWAP MIB drafts

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A CAPWAP protocol 802.11binding MIB draft
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-yangshi-capwap-802dot11-mib-00
.txt and

A CAPWAP protocol base MIB draft:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-yangshi-capwap-base-mib-00.txt

=20

have been available in the IETF repository since July. This work was
done by Yang Shi, David Perkins and Long Gao.

=20

Does the WG believe this draft is meeting the requirements and worthy of
being adopted as WG items to meet the charter requirement for MIB?

=20

If the WG feels it is - we would like to adopt the drafts as WG items.

=20

Is there any objection to adopting these drafts as WG items?

=20

Meanwhile, the authors have made another (revised) version of the drafts
available. Since they have arrived after the IETF deadline for non-00
drafts, they won't be available off the repository.

We will post them in CAPWAP or some public repsository (and let the WG
know).

=20

-mani

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Mahalingam Mani

(408)321-4840 (w)

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>The individual =
submissions<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>CAPWAP protocol base MIB draft: <font =
color=3Dnavy><span
style=3D'color:navy'><a
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-yangshi-capwap-base-mib=
-01.txt">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-yangshi-capwap-base-mi=
b-01.txt</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>CAPWAP protocol 802.11binding MIB draft <font =
color=3Dnavy><span
style=3D'color:navy'><a
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-yangshi-capwap-802dot11=
-mib-01.txt">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-yangshi-capwap-802=
dot11-mib-01.txt</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>are now in the IETF repository. The =
IETF70
session saw Richard presenting on this =
version.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>During the meeting there was general consensus and
acceptance by reviewing MIB experts that it is good enough to be =
accepted as WG
item; with the caveat that<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>the WG has to decide from the CAPWAP standpoint that =
it
needs a MIB; and that it finds this MIB draft work relevant enough to =
make it a
WG item.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>We found consensus for both in the meeting to the =
extent the
presentation</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Please review the draft and comment =
on
whether you believe the drafts can and should be adopted as WG items to =
address
the charter requirement of MIB support.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>-mani<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<div>

<div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><font =
size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>

<hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabindex=3D-1>

</span></font></div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font =
size=3D2
face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> =
<st1:PersonName
w:st=3D"on">Mani, Mahalingam</st1:PersonName> (Mani) =
[mailto:mmani@avaya.com] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November =
21, 2007
8:49 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> capwap<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Capwap] CAPWAP =
MIB
drafts</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>A CAPWAP protocol 802.11binding MIB draft <a
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-yangshi-capwap-802dot11=
-mib-00.txt">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-yangshi-capwap-802=
dot11-mib-00.txt</a>
and<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>A CAPWAP protocol base MIB draft: <a
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-yangshi-capwap-base-mib=
-00.txt">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-yangshi-capwap-base-mi=
b-00.txt</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>have been available in the IETF repository since =
July. This
work was done by Yang Shi, David Perkins and Long =
Gao.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Does the WG believe this draft is meeting the =
requirements
and worthy of being adopted as WG items to meet the charter requirement =
for
MIB?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>If the WG feels it is &#8211; we would like to adopt =
the
drafts as WG items.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Is there any objection to adopting these drafts as WG =
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We've had a private discussion on this topic off-list, but have not been
able to come to agreement, so I'll make my comments here. I don't think
we should (or need to) introduce these dramatic changes to the document
just prior to last call.

The "problem" we are trying to resolve resulted when someone added
language saying the AC MAY maintain discovery state. This change was
apparently introduced last January. There is no record of working group
or mailing list discussion -- the change just appeared in a document
update. 

On Oct 12, Pat posted a comment saying the state machine language
surrounding discovery state is inconsistent. I agree. It was made
inconsistent by the introduction of discovery state to the AC.

In the issue tracker, there is a comment from Charles which must have
been copied from a private email, as I cannot find it in the list
archives. Here is that comment:

----------------------------------------------
It seems to me that to be in any state at all assumes state is being 
maintained.  Describing a transition from one state to another with
behavior 
caveatted with "if state is being maintained" doesn't make any sense to
me.  
If we have no state, then we have no state transitions.

IIRC, don't we allow connections that don't do discovery first (it's
been a 
while, correct me if I'm wrong)?  In which case, DTLS on the AC should
always 
be listening, and transition "f" can be simply a WTP transition.  The AC

transition would be back to Idle rather than DTLS setup.  You could run 
discovery as its own subgraph of the AC state machine.  If you wanted to
share 
state information between the two, you could have an API to do that.
------------------------------------------------

I agree with what Charles says above.

The changes Pat is proposing do not fix the problem - they actually
introduce new problems and confusion. Since we have agreed that the AC
SHOULD NOT maintain discovery state, the discovery-idle-sulking
transitions make no sense in the context of the AC. However, fixing this
does not require separate state machines, or dramatic changes to the
existing state machine.

In draft-08, section 2.3, just below Figure 3, it says "The CAPWAP
protocol state machine, depicted above, is used by both the AC and the
WTP.  In cases where states are not shared (i.e. not implemented in one
or the other of the AC or WTP), this is explicitly called out in the
transition descriptions below." 

This implies that we just need to make sure the state machine language
around AC discovery processing is clear. We can do this by adopting
three simple changes recommended in Pat's text below (with minor edits):

For Idle-to-Discovery it should say:

      AC:  This state transition is executed by the AC
         when a Discovery Request message is
         received.  The AC SHOULD respond with a Discovery Response
         message (see Section 5.2).  The AC SHOULD NOT maintain WTP
         state at this point (see Section 12 for more information).

For Discovery to Idle it should say:  

      AC:  This state transition is executed by the AC after processing
         a Discovery Request.

For Discovery to Sulking it says:
      AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.


With these simple changes, the problem is solved. 

--Scott

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) [mailto:pcalhoun@cisco.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 3:28 PM
> To: capwap
> Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking 
> on AC prior toDTLSEstablishment
> 
> All,
> 
> I wanted to send the new state machine in order to get as many eyes on
> this one as possible. I have done what I believe is a very thorough
> review, but this is a complex state machine. I will also 
> include all of
> the state machine text in order to make it simpler to review. 
> Note that
> other than the teardown, no changes were made from the join/config
> states on (meaning, only the lower part of the state machine 
> figure was
> modified).
> 
> Since there is significant text here, I want to provide a 
> little bit of
> information on how this now works:
> - The WTP behaves pretty much the same as before, meaning 
> that it uses a
> single state context. When a connection attempt fails, the 
> state machine
> goes back to the Idle state, unless some counters have hit a 
> threshold,
> in which case the state transitions to the Sulking state. As 
> before the
> WTP can do the Discovery phase, in which case either state 
> (5) or (c) is
> used. 
> - The AC now defines two separate threads; Listener and Service. The
> Listener is the main thread that handles the discovery 
> messages. Once a
> connection request is received, it spawns a Service thread to 
> deal with
> the WTP. You will notice that the new state machine uses numerals when
> it applies either only to the WTP, or to the Listener thread. 
> All state
> transitions that use alphabetic, or symbols, is for the Service thread
> or the WTP. The biggest difference in how the state machines work is
> that on the AC, when a connection is being established, and fails, the
> Service thread's state moves back to the DTLS Setup state, not Idle.
> When the error thresholds are hit, the state moves to Sulking - the
> quiet period. You will also notice a new Dead state, which is 
> ONLY valid
> for the Service thread, which is where the thread is terminated, and
> resources are freed.
>  
> Comments welcomed,
> 
> PatC
> 
> 
> <text>
> 2.3.  CAPWAP State Machine Definition
> 
>    The following state diagram represents the lifecycle of a WTP-AC
>    session.  Use of DTLS by the CAPWAP protocol results in the
>    juxtaposition of two nominally separate yet tightly bound state
>    machines.  The DTLS and CAPWAP state machines are coupled 
> through an
>    API consisting of commands (see Section 2.3.2.1) and notifications
>    (see Section 2.3.2.2).  Certain transitions in the DTLS 
> state machine
>    are triggered by commands from the CAPWAP state machine, while
>    certain transitions in the CAPWAP state machine are triggered by
>    notifications from the DTLS state machine.
> 
>                             /-------------------------------------\
>                             |          /-------------------------\|
>                             |         w|                         ||
>                             |    x+----------+ y +------------+  ||
>                             |     |   Run    |-->|   Reset    |-\||
>                             |     +----------+   +------------+ |||
>                            u|  V      ^           ^     ^      z|||
>                 +------------+--------/           |     |       |||
>                 | Data Check |             /-------/    |       |||
>                 +------------+<-------\   |             |       |||
>                                       |   |             |       |||
>                        /------------------+--------\    |       |||
>                       m|             t|  o|    q   v   r|       |||
>                +--------+     +-----------+     +--------------+|||
>                |  Join  |---->| Configure |     |  Image Data  ||||
>                +--------+  n  +-----------+     +--------------+|||
>                 ^   |l                 p|                    s| |||
>                 |   |                   \-------------------\ | |||
>                 |   \--------------------------------------\| | |||
>                 \------------------------\                 || | |||
>          /--------------<----------------+---------------\ || | |||
>          | /------------<----------------+-------------\ | || | |||
>          | |                      i      |k           8| | vv v vvv
>          | |  d+----------------+<--+--------------+   +-----------+
>        /-|-|---|   DTLS Setup   |   | DTLS Connect |-->|  DTLS TD  |
>        | | |   +----------------+e  +--------------+ 7 +-----------+
>        | | |   6|   ^      ^  |f         ^       j|      ^  |~
>        v v v    |   |      |  |          |        |      |  |
>        | | |    |   |      |  \-------\  |   /----+------/  |
>        | | |    |   |      |          |  |   |    \---\     |
>        | | |    v  c|  1   |5    2    v  |g  |h       v     v
>        | | \->+------+-->+------+   +-----------+    +--------+
>        | |    | Idle |   | Disc |   | Authorize |    |  Dead  |
>        | |    +------+<--+------+   +-----------+    +--------+
>        | |        ^    0      |3                         ^
>        | |        |           |                          |b
>        | |9       |4          |                          |
>        | \->+---------+<------/                          |
>        \--->| Sulking |----------------------------------/
>             +---------+
>                       a
> 
>                  Figure 3: CAPWAP Integrated State Machine
> 
>    The CAPWAP protocol state machine, depicted above, is used by both
>    the AC and the WTP.  In cases where states are not shared (i.e. not
>    implemented in one or the other of the AC or WTP), this is 
> explicitly
>    called out in the transition descriptions below.  For every state
> 
>    defined, only certain messages are permitted to be sent 
> and received.
>    The CAPWAP control messages definitions specify the 
> state(s) in which
>    each message is valid.
> 
>    Since the WTP only communicates with a single AC, it only has a
>    single instance of the CAPWAP state machine.  The state 
> machine works
>    differently on the AC since it communicates with many WTPs.  The AC
>    uses the concept of two threads.  Note that the term 
> thread used here
>    does not necessarily imply that implementers must use 
> threads, but it
>    is one possible way of implementing the AC's state machine.
> 
>    Listener Thread -   The AC's Listener thread handles the shared
>       services, which includes receiving and responding to Discovery
>       Requests.  The Listener thread handles the common 
> tasks, up to the
>       DTLS Setup state.  The state machine transitions in the above
>       figure are represented by numerals.
> 
>    Service Thread -   The AC's Service thread handles the per WTP
>       states, and one such thread exists per WTP connection.  This
>       thread starts during the DTLS Setup state, which is when the
>       DTLSListen command is invoked.  When created, the Service thread
>       inherits a copy of the state machine context from the Listener
>       thread.  When communication with the WTP is complete, 
> the Service
>       thread is terminated.  The state machine transitions in 
> the above
>       figure are represented by alphabetic characters (including
>       symbols).
> 
> 2.3.1.  CAPWAP Protocol State Transitions
> 
>    This section describes the various state transitions, and 
> the events
>    that cause them.  This section does not discuss 
> interactions between
>    DTLS- and CAPWAP-specific states.  Those interactions, and DTLS-
>    specific states and transitions, are discussed in Section 2.3.2.
> 
>    Idle to Discovery (1):  This transition occurs once device
>       initialization is complete.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Discovery state prior to 
> transmitting the
>          first Discovery Request message (see Section 5.1).  Upon
>          entering this state, the WTP sets the DiscoveryInterval timer
>          (see Section 4.7).  The WTP resets the DiscoveryCount counter
>          to zero (0) (see Section 4.8).  The WTP also clears all
>          information from ACs it may have received during a previous
>          Discovery phase.
> 
>       AC:  This state transition is executed by the AC's Listener
>          thread, and occurs when a Discovery Request message is
>          received.  The AC SHOULD respond with a Discovery Response
>          message (see Section 5.2).  The AC SHOULD NOT maintain WTP
>          state at this point (see Section 12 for more information).
> 
>    Discovery to Discovery (2):  In the Discovery state, the WTP
>       determines which AC to connect to.
> 
>       WTP:  This transition occurs when the DiscoveryInterval timer
>          expires.  If the WTP is configured with a list of ACs, it
>          transmits a Discovery Request message to every AC 
> from which it
>          has not received a Discovery Response message.  For every
>          transition to this event, the WTP increments the 
> DiscoveryCount
>          counter.  See Section 5.1 for more information on how the WTP
>          knows the ACs to which it should transmit the 
> Discovery Request
>          messages.  The WTP restarts the DiscoveryInterval timer
>          whenever it transmits Discovery Request messages.
> 
>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
> 
>    Discovery to Idle (0):  This transition occurs on the AC's Listener
>       thread when the Discovery processing is complete.
> 
>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
> 
>       AC:  This state transition is executed by the AC's 
> Listener thread
>          when it has transmitted the Discovery Response, in 
> response to
>          a Discovery Request.
> 
>    Discovery to Sulking (3):  This transition occurs on a WTP when AC
>       Discovery fails.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when the DiscoveryInterval timer
>          expires and the DiscoveryCount variable is equal to the
>          MaxDiscoveries variable (see Section 4.8).  Upon 
> entering this
>          state, the WTP MUST start the SilentInterval timer.  While in
>          the Sulking state, all received CAPWAP protocol messages
>          received MUST be ignored.
> 
>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
> 
>    Sulking to Idle (4):  This transition occurs on a WTP when it must
>       restart the discovery phase.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when the SilentInterval 
> timer (see
>          Section 4.7) expires.  The FailedDTLSSessionCount,
>          DiscoveryCount and FailedDTLSAuthFailCount counters are reset
>          to zero.
> 
>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
> 
>    Sulking to Sulking (a):  The Sulking state provides the silent
>       period, minimizing the possibility for Denial of Service (DoS)
>       attacks.
> 
>       WTP:  All packets received from the AC while in the 
> sulking state
>          are ignored.
> 
>       AC:  All packets receive from the WTP on the AC's 
> Service thread,
>          while in the sulking state, are ignored.
> 
>    Sulking to Dead (b):  This transition occurs on the AC 
> when the quiet
>       period expires.
> 
>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
> 
>       AC:  The AC enters this state when the SilentInterval timer (see
>          Section 4.7) expires.  The AC must clean up all resources
>          associated with the control plane DTLS session.  The 
> data plane
>          DTLS session is also shutdown, and all resources freed, if a
>          DTLS session was established for the data plane.  Any timers
>          set for the current instance of the state machine are also
>          cleared.  The AC's Service thread is terminated.
> 
>    Idle to DTLS Setup (c):  This transition occurs to 
> establish a secure
>       DTLS session with the peer.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP initiates this transition by invoking the 
> DTLSStart
>          command, which starts the DTLS session establishment with the
>          chosen AC.  When the discovery phase is bypassed, it 
> is assumed
>          the WTP has locally configured ACs.
> 
>       AC:  The AC initiates this transition by invoking the DTLSListen
>          command (see Section 2.3.2.1), which informs the DTLS stack
>          that it is willing to listen for an incoming 
> session.  The AC's
>          Listener thread forks an instance of the Service 
> thread, along
>          with a copy of the state context.  If the AC had 
> maintained WTP
>          state information during the Discovery exchange, or through
>          some other means that may include static 
> configuration of WTPs,
>          the AC MAY provide optional qualifiers in the DTLSListen
>          command to only accept session requests a specific WTP.  Note
>          that the AC SHOULD NOT maintain state information based on an
>          unsecured Discovery Request message, as this can lead to a
>          Denial of Service attack (see Section 12).  In such 
> instances,
>          the AC MUST ensure that this state information is 
> freed after a
>          period, which is implementation specific.
> 
>    Discovery to DTLS Setup (5):  This transition occurs to establish a
>       secure DTLS session with the peer.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP initiates this transition by invoking the 
> DTLSStart
>          command (see Section 2.3.2.1), which starts the DTLS session
>          establishment with the chosen AC.  The decision of 
> which AC to
>          connect to is the result of the discovery phase, which is
>          described in Section 3.3.
> 
>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
> 
>    DTLS Setup to Idle (6):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>       connection setup has failed.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP initiates this state transition when it receives a
>          DTLSEstablishFail notification from DTLS (see 
> Section 2.3.2.2),
>          and the FailedDTLSSessionCount or the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount
>          counter have not reached the value of the
>          MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section 4.8).  This
>          error notification aborts the secure DTLS session
>          establishment.  When this notification is received, the
>          FailedDTLSSessionCount counter is incremented.
> 
>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
> 
>    DTLS Setup to Sulking (d):  This transition occurs when repeated
>       attempts to setup the DTLS connection have failed.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when the 
> FailedDTLSSessionCount or
>          the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount counter reaches the value of the
>          MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section 4.8).  Upon
>          entering this state, the WTP MUST start the SilentInterval
>          timer.  While in the Sulking state, all received CAPWAP and
>          DTLS protocol messages received MUST be ignored.
> 
>       AC:  The AC enters this state with the specific WTP when the
>          FailedDTLSSessionCount or the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount counter
>          reaches MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section 4.8).
>          Upon entering this state, the AC's Service thread MUST start
>          the SilentInterval timer, and ignore all CAPWAP and DTLS
>          protocol messages received from the WTP.  The AC immediately
>          transitions the state to Idle.
> 
>    DTLS Setup to DTLS Setup (e):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>       Session failed to be established.
> 
>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
> 
>       AC:  The AC initiates this state transition by the 
> Service thread
>          when it receives a DTLSEstablishFail notification from DTLS
>          (see Section 2.3.2.2).  This error notification aborts the
>          secure DTLS session establishment.  When this notification is
>          received, the FailedDTLSSessionCount counter is incremented.
> 
>    DTLS Setup to Authorize (f):  This transition occurs when 
> an incoming
>       DTLS session is being established, and the DTLS stack needs
>       authorization to proceed with the session establishment.
> 
>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives the
>          DTLSPeerAuthorize notification (see Section 2.3.2.2).  Upon
>          entering this state, the WTP performs an authorization check
>          against the AC credentials.  See Section 2.4.4 for more
>          information on AC authorization.
> 
>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the
>          DTLSPeerAuthorize notification (see Section 2.3.2.2).  Upon
>          entering this state, the AC performs an authorization check
>          against the WTP credentials.  See Section 2.4.4 for more
>          information on WTP authorization.
> 
>    Authorize to DTLS Connect (g):  This transition occurs to 
> notify the
>       DTLS stack that the session should be established.
> 
>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP has successfully
>          authorized the AC's credentials (see Section 2.4.4).  This is
>          done by invoking the DTLSAccept DTLS command (see
>          Section 2.3.2.1).
> 
>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC has successfully
>          authorized the WTP's credentials (see Section 
> 2.4.4).  This is
>          done by invoking the DTLSAccept DTLS command (see
>          Section 2.3.2.1).
> 
>    Authorize to DTLS Teardown (h):  This transition occurs to 
> notify the
>       DTLS stack that the session should be aborted.
> 
>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP was unable to
>          authorize the AC, using the AC credentials.  The WTP then
>          aborts the DTLS session by invoking the DTLSAbortSession
>          command (see Section 2.3.2.1).
> 
>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC was unable to
>          authorize the WTP, using the WTP credentials.  The AC then
>          aborts the DTLS session by invoking the DTLSAbortSession
>          command (see Section 2.3.2.1).
> 
>    DTLS Connect to DTLS Teardown (7):  This transition occurs when the
>       DTLS Session failed to be established.
> 
>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP 
> receives either a
>          DTLSAborted or DTLSAuthenticateFail notification (see
>          Section 2.3.2.2), indicating that the DTLS session was not
>          successfully established.  When this transition occurs due to
>          the DTLSAuthenticateFail notification, the
>          FailedDTLSAuthFailCount is incremented, otherwise the
>          FailedDTLSSessionCount counter is incremented.
> 
>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
> 
>    DTLS Connect to DTLS Setup (i):  This transition occurs 
> when the DTLS
>       Session failed to be established.
> 
>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
> 
>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives either a
>          DTLSAborted or DTLSAuthenticateFail notification (see
>          Section 2.3.2.2), indicating that the DTLS session was not
>          successfully established, and both of the
>          FailedDTLSAuthFailCount and FailedDTLSSessionCount counters
>          have not reached the value of the MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry
>          variable (see Section 4.8).
> 
>    DTLS Connect to Dead (j):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>       Session failed to be established.
> 
>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
> 
>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives either a
>          DTLSAborted or DTLSAuthenticateFail notification (see
>          Section 2.3.2.2), indicating that the DTLS session was not
>          successfully established, and either the
>          FailedDTLSAuthFailCount and FailedDTLSSessionCount counters
>          have reached the value of the MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry
>          variable (see Section 4.8).
> 
>    DTLS Connect to Join (k):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>       Session is successfully established.
> 
>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives the
>          DTLSEstablished notification (see Section 2.3.2.2), 
> indicating
>          that the DTLS session was successfully established.  
> When this
>          notification is received, the FailedDTLSSessionCount 
> counter is
>          set to zero.
> 
>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the
>          DTLSEstablished notification (see Section 2.3.2.2), 
> indicating
>          that the DTLS session was successfully established.  
> When this
>          notification is received, the FailedDTLSSessionCount 
> counter is
>          set to zero, and the WaitJoin timer is started (see
>          Section 4.7).
> 
>    Join to DTLS Teardown (l):  This transition occurs when the join
>       process failed.
> 
>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives a Join
>          Response message with a Result Code message element 
> containing
>          an error, if the Image Identifier provided by the AC in the
>          Join Response message differs from the WTP's 
> currently running
>          firmware version and the WTP has the requested image in its
>          non-volatile memory, or if the WaitDTLS timer expires.  This
>          causes the WTP to initiate the DTLSShutdown command (see
>          Section 2.3.2.1).  This transition also occurs if the WTP
>          receives one of the following DTLS notifications: 
> DTLSAborted,
>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect.
> 
>       AC:  This state transition occurs either if the WaitJoin timer
>          expires or if the AC transmits a Join Response message with a
>          Result Code message element containing an error.  This causes
>          the AC to initiate the DTLSShutdown command (see
>          Section 2.3.2.1).  This transition also occurs if the AC
>          receives one of the following DTLS notifications: 
> DTLSAborted,
>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect.
> 
>    Join to Image Data (m):  This state transition is used by 
> the WTP and
>       the AC to download executable firmware.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Image Data state when it receives a
>          successful Join Response message and determines and the
>          included Image Identifier message element is not the same as
>          its currently running image.  The WTP also detects that the
>          requested image version is not currently available 
> in the WTP's
>          non-volatile storage (see Section 9.1 for a full 
> description of
>          the firmware download process).  The WTP initializes the
>          EchoInterval timer (see Section 4.7), and transmits the Image
>          Data Request message (see Section 9.1.1) requesting the start
>          of the firmware download.
> 
>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the Image
>          Data Request message from the WTP.  The AC MUST transmit an
>          Image Data Response message (see Section 9.1.2) to the WTP,
>          which includes a portion of the firmware.  The AC MUST start
>          the ImageDataStartTimer timer (see Section 4.7).
> 
>    Join to Configure (n):  This state transition is used by 
> the WTP and
>       the AC to exchange configuration information.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Configure state when it receives a
>          successful Join Response, and determines that the included
>          Image Identifier message element is the same as its currently
>          running image.  The WTP transmits the Configuration Status
>          message (see Section 8.2) to the AC with message elements
>          describing its current configuration.  The WTP also 
> starts the
>          ResponseTimeout timer (see Section 4.7).
> 
>       AC:  This state transition occurs immediately after the AC
>          transmits the Join Response message to the WTP.  If the AC
>          receives the Configuration Status message from the 
> WTP, the AC
>          MUST transmit a Configuration Status Response message (see
>          Section 8.3) to the WTP, and MAY include specific message
>          elements to override the WTP's configuration.  The AC also
>          starts the ChangeStatePendingTimer timer (see Section 4.7).
> 
>    Configure to Reset (o):  This state transition is used to reset the
>       connection either due to an error during the 
> configuration phase,
>       or when the WTP determines it needs to reset in order 
> for the new
>       configuration to take effect.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Reset state when it receives a
>          Configuration Status Response indicating an error or when it
>          determines that a reset of the WTP is required, due to the
>          characteristics of a new configuration.
> 
>       AC:  The AC transitions to the Reset state when it receives a
>          Change State Event message from the WTP that 
> contains an error
>          for which AC policy does not permit the WTP to 
> provide service.
>          This state transition also occurs when the AC
>          ChangeStatePendingTimer timer expires.
> 
>    Configure to DTLS Teardown (p):  This transition occurs when the
>       configuration process aborts due to a DTLS error.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives one of the
>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS 
> session if it
>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.
> 
>       AC:  The AC enters this state when it receives one of the
>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS 
> session if it
>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.
> 
>    Image Data to Image Data (q):  The Image Data state is used by the
>       WTP and the AC during the firmware download phase.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Image Data state when it receives an
>          Image Data Response message indicating that the AC has more
>          data to send.
> 
>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the Image
>          Data Request message from the WTP while already in the Image
>          Data state.  The AC resets the ImageDataStartTimer timer.
> 
>    Image Data to Reset (r):  This state transition is used to 
> reset the
>       DTLS connection prior to restarting the WTP after an image
>       download.
> 
>       WTP:  When an image download completes, the WTP enters the Reset
>          state.  The WTP MAY also transition to this state upon
>          receiving an Image Data Response message from the AC (see
>          Section 9.1.2) indicating a failure.
> 
>       AC:  The AC enters the Reset state when an error occurs 
> during the
>          image download process or if the ImageDataStartTimer timer
>          expires.
> 
>    Image Data to DTLS Teardown (s):  This transition occurs when the
>       firmware download process aborts due to a DTLS error.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives one of the
>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS 
> session if it
>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.
> 
>       AC:  The AC enters this state when it receives one of the
>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS 
> session if it
>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.
> 
>    Configure to Data Check (t):  This state transition occurs when the
>       WTP and AC confirm the configuration.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives a successful
>          Configuration Status Response message from the AC.  The WTP
>          initializes the EchoInterval timer (see Section 4.7), and
>          transmits the Change State Event Request message (see
>          Section 8.6).
> 
>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives 
> the Change
>          State Event Request message (see Section 8.6) from the WTP.
>          The AC responds with a Change State Event Response 
> message (see
>          Section 8.7).  The AC MUST start the DataCheckTimer 
> timer (see
>          Section 4.7).
> 
>    Data Check to DTLS Teardown (u):  This transition occurs 
> when the WTP
>       does not complete the Data Check exchange.
> 
>       WTP:  This state transition occurs if the WTP does not 
> receive the
>          Change State Event Response before a CAPWAP transmission
>          timeout occurs.
> 
>       AC:  The AC enters this state when the DataCheckTimer timer
>          expires (see Section 4.7).
> 
>    Data Check to Run (V):  This state transition occurs when 
> the linkage
>       between the control and data channels has occured, 
> causing the WTP
>       and AC to enter their normal state of operation.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives a successful
>          Change State Event Response message from the AC.  The WTP
>          initiates the data channel, which MAY require the 
> establishment
>          of a DTLS session, starts the DataChannelKeepAlive timer (see
>          Section 4.7) and transmits a Data Channel Keep Alive packet
>          (see Section 4.4.1).  The WTP then starts the
>          DataChannelDeadInterval timer (see Section 4.7).
> 
>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the Data
>          Channel Keep Alive packet (see Section 4.4.1), with a Session
>          ID message element matching that included by the WTP in the
>          Join Request message.  The AC disables the DataCheckTimer
>          timer.  Note that if AC policy is to require the data channel
>          to be encrypted, this process would also require the
>          establishment of a data channel DTLS session.  Upon receiving
>          the Data Channel Keep Alive packet, the AC transmits its own
>          Data Channel Keep Alive packet.
> 
>    Run to DTLS Teardown (w):  This state transition occurs 
> when an error
>       has occured in the DTLS stack, causing the DTLS session to be
>       torndown.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives one of the
>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS 
> session if it
>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.  
> The WTP also
>          transitions to this state if the underlying reliable
>          transport's RetransmitCount counter has reached the
>          MaxRetransmit variable (see Section 4.7).
> 
>       AC:  The AC enters this state when it receives one of the
>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS 
> session if it
>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.  The AC
>          transitions to this state if the underlying reliable
>          transport's RetransmitCount counter has reached the
>          MaxRetransmit variable (see Section 4.7).
> 
>    Run to Run (x):  This is the normal state of operation.
> 
>       WTP:  This is the WTP's normal state of operation.  
> There are many
>          events that result this state transition:
> 
>          Configuration Update:  The WTP receives a 
> Configuration Update
>             Request message(see Section 8.4).  The WTP MUST 
> respond with
>             a Configuration Update Response message (see Section 8.5).
> 
>          Change State Event:  The WTP receives a Change State Event
>             Response message, or determines that it must initiate a
>             Change State Event Request message, as a result 
> of a failure
>             or change in the state of a radio.
> 
>          Echo Request:  The WTP sends an Echo Request message
>             (Section 7.1) or receives the corresponding Echo Response
>             message, (see Section 7.2) from the AC.
> 
>          Clear Config Request:  The WTP receives a Clear Configuration
>             Request message (see Section 8.8).  The WTP MUST reset its
>             configuration back to manufacturer defaults.
> 
>          WTP Event:  The WTP sends a WTP Event Request message,
>             delivering information to the AC (see Section 
> 9.4).  The WTP
>             receives a WTP Event Response message from the AC (see
>             Section 9.5).
> 
>          Data Transfer:  The WTP sends a Data Transfer Request message
>             to the AC (see Section 9.6).  The WTP receives a Data
>             Transfer Response message from the AC (see Section 9.7).
> 
>          Station Configuration Request:  The WTP receives a Station
>             Configuration Request message (see Section 10.1), to which
>             it MUST respond with a Station Configuration Response
>             message (see Section 10.2).
> 
>       AC:  This is the AC's normal state of operation:
> 
>          Configuration Update:  The AC sends a Configuration Update
>             Request message (see Section 8.4) to the WTP to update its
>             configuration.  The AC receives a Configuration Update
>             Response message (see Section 8.5) from the WTP.
> 
>          Change State Event:  The AC receives a Change State Event
>             Request message (see Section 8.6), to which it 
> MUST respond
>             with the Change State Event Response message (see
>             Section 8.7).
> 
>          Echo Request:  The AC receives an Echo Request message (see
>             Section 7.1), to which it MUST respond with an 
> Echo Response
>             message(see Section 7.2).
> 
>          Clear Config Response:  The AC receives a Clear Configuration
>             Response message from the WTP (see Section 8.9).
> 
>          WTP Event:  The AC receives a WTP Event Request message from
>             the WTP (see Section 9.4) and MUST generate a 
> corresponding
>             WTP Event Response message (see Section 9.5).
> 
>          Data Transfer:  The AC receives a Data Transfer 
> Request message
>             from the WTP (see Section 9.6) and MUST generate a
>             corresponding Data Transfer Response message (see
>             Section 9.7).
> 
>          Station Configuration Request:  The AC sends a Station
>             Configuration Request message (see Section 10.1) 
> or receives
>             the corresponding Station Configuration Response message
>             (see Section 10.2) from the WTP.
> 
>    Run to Reset (y):  This state transition is used when either the AC
>       or WTP tear down the connection.  This may occur as 
> part of normal
>       operation, or due to error conditions.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Reset state when it receives a Reset
>          Request message from the AC.
> 
>       AC:  The AC enters the Reset state when it transmits a Reset
>          Request message to the WTP.
> 
>    Reset to DTLS Teardown (z):  This transition occurs when the CAPWAP
>       reset is complete, to terminate the DTLS session.
> 
>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives a Reset
>          Response message.  This causes the WTP to initiate the
>          DTLSShutdown command (see Section 2.3.2.1).
> 
>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC transmits a Reset
>          Response message.  The AC does not invoke the DTLSShutdown
>          command (see Section 2.3.2.1).
> 
>    DTLS Teardown to Idle (8):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>       session has been shutdown.
> 
>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP has successfully
>          cleaned up all resources associated with the control 
> plane DTLS
>          session.  The data plane DTLS session is also 
> shutdown, and all
>          resources freed, if a DTLS session was established 
> for the data
>          plane.  Any timers set for the current instance of the state
>          machine are also cleared.
> 
>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
> 
>    DTLS Teardown to Sulking (9):  This transition occurs when repeated
>       attempts to setup the DTLS connection have failed.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when the 
> FailedDTLSSessionCount or
>          the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount counter reaches the value of the
>          MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section 4.8).  Upon
>          entering this state, the WTP MUST start the SilentInterval
>          timer.  While in the Sulking state, all received CAPWAP and
>          DTLS protocol messages received MUST be ignored.
> 
>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
> 
>    DTLS Teardown to Dead (~):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>       session has been shutdown.
> 
>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
> 
>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC has successfully
>          cleaned up all resources associated with the control 
> plane DTLS
>          session.  The data plane DTLS session is also 
> shutdown, and all
>          resources freed, if a DTLS session was established 
> for the data
>          plane.  Any timers set for the current instance of the state
>          machine are also cleared.  The AC's Service thread is
>          terminated.
> 
> 12.3.  Discovery Attacks
> [...]
>    Some implementations may wish to pass information about clients who
>    have passed the discovery phase to the DTLS layer, authorizing only
>    those clients to initiate a DTLS handshake.  Note that the 
> impact of
>    this on mitigating denial of service attacks against the DTLS layer
>    is minimal, because DTLS already uses client-side cookies 
> to minimize
>    processor consumption attacks.  As a result, implementations SHOULD
>    NOT maintain state between the discovery and DTLS 
> handshake phases of
>    the CAPWAP protocol initialization.
> 
> </text> 
> 
> PatC
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:17 AM
> To: capwap
> Subject: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking on AC prior to
> DTLSEstablishment
> 
> I wanted to provide a follow-up based on the conversation during the
> meeting yesterday. The issue that is being raised in this 
> issue is that
> the state machine doesn't really work well on the AC. There 
> is text that
> states that the AC has a different "state context" per WTP, but right
> now this would require that the AC maintains state during the 
> discovery,
> etc. However, we have all agreed that the AC should not have to do so.
> So we agreed that we needed to provide more clarity on the 
> state machine
> that allows for the AC to provide services such as responding to
> Discovery Requests, without explicitely maintaining per WTP state. 
>  
> I am working on modifications to the state machine, and expect to have
> this sent to the list later today.
>  
> PatC
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The reason why I like the new state machine is that it is very clear on
how the AC deals with the fact that it keeps multiple copies of state
machine context. The previous version really didn't make that clear at
all. As an implementer, I know that I just have to follow the
guidelines, which clearly state when a copy is made, and managed
independently, and when it is deleted.

I recognize this provides some implementation guidance, and some folks
don't like that. But it certainly is clear.

If the issue has to do with the Sulking state, then we can address that.
I would, however, be interested in Charles' take on that issue.

PatC 

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kelly [mailto:skelly@arubanetworks.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 9:17 AM
To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou); capwap
Subject: RE: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking on AC prior
toDTLSEstablishment

We've had a private discussion on this topic off-list, but have not been
able to come to agreement, so I'll make my comments here. I don't think
we should (or need to) introduce these dramatic changes to the document
just prior to last call.

The "problem" we are trying to resolve resulted when someone added
language saying the AC MAY maintain discovery state. This change was
apparently introduced last January. There is no record of working group
or mailing list discussion -- the change just appeared in a document
update. 

On Oct 12, Pat posted a comment saying the state machine language
surrounding discovery state is inconsistent. I agree. It was made
inconsistent by the introduction of discovery state to the AC.

In the issue tracker, there is a comment from Charles which must have
been copied from a private email, as I cannot find it in the list
archives. Here is that comment:

----------------------------------------------
It seems to me that to be in any state at all assumes state is being
maintained.  Describing a transition from one state to another with
behavior caveatted with "if state is being maintained" doesn't make any
sense to me.  
If we have no state, then we have no state transitions.

IIRC, don't we allow connections that don't do discovery first (it's
been a while, correct me if I'm wrong)?  In which case, DTLS on the AC
should always be listening, and transition "f" can be simply a WTP
transition.  The AC

transition would be back to Idle rather than DTLS setup.  You could run
discovery as its own subgraph of the AC state machine.  If you wanted to
share state information between the two, you could have an API to do
that.
------------------------------------------------

I agree with what Charles says above.

The changes Pat is proposing do not fix the problem - they actually
introduce new problems and confusion. Since we have agreed that the AC
SHOULD NOT maintain discovery state, the discovery-idle-sulking
transitions make no sense in the context of the AC. However, fixing this
does not require separate state machines, or dramatic changes to the
existing state machine.

In draft-08, section 2.3, just below Figure 3, it says "The CAPWAP
protocol state machine, depicted above, is used by both the AC and the
WTP.  In cases where states are not shared (i.e. not implemented in one
or the other of the AC or WTP), this is explicitly called out in the
transition descriptions below." 

This implies that we just need to make sure the state machine language
around AC discovery processing is clear. We can do this by adopting
three simple changes recommended in Pat's text below (with minor edits):

For Idle-to-Discovery it should say:

      AC:  This state transition is executed by the AC
         when a Discovery Request message is
         received.  The AC SHOULD respond with a Discovery Response
         message (see Section 5.2).  The AC SHOULD NOT maintain WTP
         state at this point (see Section 12 for more information).

For Discovery to Idle it should say:  

      AC:  This state transition is executed by the AC after processing
         a Discovery Request.

For Discovery to Sulking it says:
      AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.


With these simple changes, the problem is solved. 

--Scott

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) [mailto:pcalhoun@cisco.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 3:28 PM
> To: capwap
> Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking on AC 
> prior toDTLSEstablishment
> 
> All,
> 
> I wanted to send the new state machine in order to get as many eyes on

> this one as possible. I have done what I believe is a very thorough 
> review, but this is a complex state machine. I will also include all 
> of the state machine text in order to make it simpler to review.
> Note that
> other than the teardown, no changes were made from the join/config 
> states on (meaning, only the lower part of the state machine figure 
> was modified).
> 
> Since there is significant text here, I want to provide a little bit 
> of information on how this now works:
> - The WTP behaves pretty much the same as before, meaning that it uses

> a single state context. When a connection attempt fails, the state 
> machine goes back to the Idle state, unless some counters have hit a 
> threshold, in which case the state transitions to the Sulking state. 
> As before the WTP can do the Discovery phase, in which case either 
> state
> (5) or (c) is
> used. 
> - The AC now defines two separate threads; Listener and Service. The 
> Listener is the main thread that handles the discovery messages. Once 
> a connection request is received, it spawns a Service thread to deal 
> with the WTP. You will notice that the new state machine uses numerals

> when it applies either only to the WTP, or to the Listener thread.
> All state
> transitions that use alphabetic, or symbols, is for the Service thread

> or the WTP. The biggest difference in how the state machines work is 
> that on the AC, when a connection is being established, and fails, the

> Service thread's state moves back to the DTLS Setup state, not Idle.
> When the error thresholds are hit, the state moves to Sulking - the 
> quiet period. You will also notice a new Dead state, which is ONLY 
> valid for the Service thread, which is where the thread is terminated,

> and resources are freed.
>  
> Comments welcomed,
> 
> PatC
> 
> 
> <text>
> 2.3.  CAPWAP State Machine Definition
> 
>    The following state diagram represents the lifecycle of a WTP-AC
>    session.  Use of DTLS by the CAPWAP protocol results in the
>    juxtaposition of two nominally separate yet tightly bound state
>    machines.  The DTLS and CAPWAP state machines are coupled through 
> an
>    API consisting of commands (see Section 2.3.2.1) and notifications
>    (see Section 2.3.2.2).  Certain transitions in the DTLS state 
> machine
>    are triggered by commands from the CAPWAP state machine, while
>    certain transitions in the CAPWAP state machine are triggered by
>    notifications from the DTLS state machine.
> 
>                             /-------------------------------------\
>                             |          /-------------------------\|
>                             |         w|                         ||
>                             |    x+----------+ y +------------+  ||
>                             |     |   Run    |-->|   Reset    |-\||
>                             |     +----------+   +------------+ |||
>                            u|  V      ^           ^     ^      z|||
>                 +------------+--------/           |     |       |||
>                 | Data Check |             /-------/    |       |||
>                 +------------+<-------\   |             |       |||
>                                       |   |             |       |||
>                        /------------------+--------\    |       |||
>                       m|             t|  o|    q   v   r|       |||
>                +--------+     +-----------+     +--------------+|||
>                |  Join  |---->| Configure |     |  Image Data  ||||
>                +--------+  n  +-----------+     +--------------+|||
>                 ^   |l                 p|                    s| |||
>                 |   |                   \-------------------\ | |||
>                 |   \--------------------------------------\| | |||
>                 \------------------------\                 || | |||
>          /--------------<----------------+---------------\ || | |||
>          | /------------<----------------+-------------\ | || | |||
>          | |                      i      |k           8| | vv v vvv
>          | |  d+----------------+<--+--------------+   +-----------+
>        /-|-|---|   DTLS Setup   |   | DTLS Connect |-->|  DTLS TD  |
>        | | |   +----------------+e  +--------------+ 7 +-----------+
>        | | |   6|   ^      ^  |f         ^       j|      ^  |~
>        v v v    |   |      |  |          |        |      |  |
>        | | |    |   |      |  \-------\  |   /----+------/  |
>        | | |    |   |      |          |  |   |    \---\     |
>        | | |    v  c|  1   |5    2    v  |g  |h       v     v
>        | | \->+------+-->+------+   +-----------+    +--------+
>        | |    | Idle |   | Disc |   | Authorize |    |  Dead  |
>        | |    +------+<--+------+   +-----------+    +--------+
>        | |        ^    0      |3                         ^
>        | |        |           |                          |b
>        | |9       |4          |                          |
>        | \->+---------+<------/                          |
>        \--->| Sulking |----------------------------------/
>             +---------+
>                       a
> 
>                  Figure 3: CAPWAP Integrated State Machine
> 
>    The CAPWAP protocol state machine, depicted above, is used by both
>    the AC and the WTP.  In cases where states are not shared (i.e. not
>    implemented in one or the other of the AC or WTP), this is 
> explicitly
>    called out in the transition descriptions below.  For every state
> 
>    defined, only certain messages are permitted to be sent and 
> received.
>    The CAPWAP control messages definitions specify the
> state(s) in which
>    each message is valid.
> 
>    Since the WTP only communicates with a single AC, it only has a
>    single instance of the CAPWAP state machine.  The state machine 
> works
>    differently on the AC since it communicates with many WTPs.  The AC
>    uses the concept of two threads.  Note that the term thread used 
> here
>    does not necessarily imply that implementers must use threads, but 
> it
>    is one possible way of implementing the AC's state machine.
> 
>    Listener Thread -   The AC's Listener thread handles the shared
>       services, which includes receiving and responding to Discovery
>       Requests.  The Listener thread handles the common tasks, up to 
> the
>       DTLS Setup state.  The state machine transitions in the above
>       figure are represented by numerals.
> 
>    Service Thread -   The AC's Service thread handles the per WTP
>       states, and one such thread exists per WTP connection.  This
>       thread starts during the DTLS Setup state, which is when the
>       DTLSListen command is invoked.  When created, the Service thread
>       inherits a copy of the state machine context from the Listener
>       thread.  When communication with the WTP is complete, the 
> Service
>       thread is terminated.  The state machine transitions in the 
> above
>       figure are represented by alphabetic characters (including
>       symbols).
> 
> 2.3.1.  CAPWAP Protocol State Transitions
> 
>    This section describes the various state transitions, and the 
> events
>    that cause them.  This section does not discuss interactions 
> between
>    DTLS- and CAPWAP-specific states.  Those interactions, and DTLS-
>    specific states and transitions, are discussed in Section 2.3.2.
> 
>    Idle to Discovery (1):  This transition occurs once device
>       initialization is complete.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Discovery state prior to transmitting 
> the
>          first Discovery Request message (see Section 5.1).  Upon
>          entering this state, the WTP sets the DiscoveryInterval timer
>          (see Section 4.7).  The WTP resets the DiscoveryCount counter
>          to zero (0) (see Section 4.8).  The WTP also clears all
>          information from ACs it may have received during a previous
>          Discovery phase.
> 
>       AC:  This state transition is executed by the AC's Listener
>          thread, and occurs when a Discovery Request message is
>          received.  The AC SHOULD respond with a Discovery Response
>          message (see Section 5.2).  The AC SHOULD NOT maintain WTP
>          state at this point (see Section 12 for more information).
> 
>    Discovery to Discovery (2):  In the Discovery state, the WTP
>       determines which AC to connect to.
> 
>       WTP:  This transition occurs when the DiscoveryInterval timer
>          expires.  If the WTP is configured with a list of ACs, it
>          transmits a Discovery Request message to every AC from which 
> it
>          has not received a Discovery Response message.  For every
>          transition to this event, the WTP increments the 
> DiscoveryCount
>          counter.  See Section 5.1 for more information on how the WTP
>          knows the ACs to which it should transmit the Discovery 
> Request
>          messages.  The WTP restarts the DiscoveryInterval timer
>          whenever it transmits Discovery Request messages.
> 
>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
> 
>    Discovery to Idle (0):  This transition occurs on the AC's Listener
>       thread when the Discovery processing is complete.
> 
>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
> 
>       AC:  This state transition is executed by the AC's Listener 
> thread
>          when it has transmitted the Discovery Response, in response 
> to
>          a Discovery Request.
> 
>    Discovery to Sulking (3):  This transition occurs on a WTP when AC
>       Discovery fails.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when the DiscoveryInterval timer
>          expires and the DiscoveryCount variable is equal to the
>          MaxDiscoveries variable (see Section 4.8).  Upon entering 
> this
>          state, the WTP MUST start the SilentInterval timer.  While in
>          the Sulking state, all received CAPWAP protocol messages
>          received MUST be ignored.
> 
>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
> 
>    Sulking to Idle (4):  This transition occurs on a WTP when it must
>       restart the discovery phase.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when the SilentInterval timer 
> (see
>          Section 4.7) expires.  The FailedDTLSSessionCount,
>          DiscoveryCount and FailedDTLSAuthFailCount counters are reset
>          to zero.
> 
>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
> 
>    Sulking to Sulking (a):  The Sulking state provides the silent
>       period, minimizing the possibility for Denial of Service (DoS)
>       attacks.
> 
>       WTP:  All packets received from the AC while in the sulking 
> state
>          are ignored.
> 
>       AC:  All packets receive from the WTP on the AC's Service 
> thread,
>          while in the sulking state, are ignored.
> 
>    Sulking to Dead (b):  This transition occurs on the AC when the 
> quiet
>       period expires.
> 
>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
> 
>       AC:  The AC enters this state when the SilentInterval timer (see
>          Section 4.7) expires.  The AC must clean up all resources
>          associated with the control plane DTLS session.  The data 
> plane
>          DTLS session is also shutdown, and all resources freed, if a
>          DTLS session was established for the data plane.  Any timers
>          set for the current instance of the state machine are also
>          cleared.  The AC's Service thread is terminated.
> 
>    Idle to DTLS Setup (c):  This transition occurs to establish a 
> secure
>       DTLS session with the peer.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP initiates this transition by invoking the 
> DTLSStart
>          command, which starts the DTLS session establishment with the
>          chosen AC.  When the discovery phase is bypassed, it is 
> assumed
>          the WTP has locally configured ACs.
> 
>       AC:  The AC initiates this transition by invoking the DTLSListen
>          command (see Section 2.3.2.1), which informs the DTLS stack
>          that it is willing to listen for an incoming session.  The 
> AC's
>          Listener thread forks an instance of the Service thread, 
> along
>          with a copy of the state context.  If the AC had maintained 
> WTP
>          state information during the Discovery exchange, or through
>          some other means that may include static configuration of 
> WTPs,
>          the AC MAY provide optional qualifiers in the DTLSListen
>          command to only accept session requests a specific WTP.  Note
>          that the AC SHOULD NOT maintain state information based on an
>          unsecured Discovery Request message, as this can lead to a
>          Denial of Service attack (see Section 12).  In such 
> instances,
>          the AC MUST ensure that this state information is freed after

> a
>          period, which is implementation specific.
> 
>    Discovery to DTLS Setup (5):  This transition occurs to establish a
>       secure DTLS session with the peer.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP initiates this transition by invoking the 
> DTLSStart
>          command (see Section 2.3.2.1), which starts the DTLS session
>          establishment with the chosen AC.  The decision of which AC 
> to
>          connect to is the result of the discovery phase, which is
>          described in Section 3.3.
> 
>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
> 
>    DTLS Setup to Idle (6):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>       connection setup has failed.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP initiates this state transition when it receives a
>          DTLSEstablishFail notification from DTLS (see Section 
> 2.3.2.2),
>          and the FailedDTLSSessionCount or the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount
>          counter have not reached the value of the
>          MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section 4.8).  This
>          error notification aborts the secure DTLS session
>          establishment.  When this notification is received, the
>          FailedDTLSSessionCount counter is incremented.
> 
>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
> 
>    DTLS Setup to Sulking (d):  This transition occurs when repeated
>       attempts to setup the DTLS connection have failed.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when the FailedDTLSSessionCount 
> or
>          the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount counter reaches the value of the
>          MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section 4.8).  Upon
>          entering this state, the WTP MUST start the SilentInterval
>          timer.  While in the Sulking state, all received CAPWAP and
>          DTLS protocol messages received MUST be ignored.
> 
>       AC:  The AC enters this state with the specific WTP when the
>          FailedDTLSSessionCount or the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount counter
>          reaches MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section 4.8).
>          Upon entering this state, the AC's Service thread MUST start
>          the SilentInterval timer, and ignore all CAPWAP and DTLS
>          protocol messages received from the WTP.  The AC immediately
>          transitions the state to Idle.
> 
>    DTLS Setup to DTLS Setup (e):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>       Session failed to be established.
> 
>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
> 
>       AC:  The AC initiates this state transition by the Service 
> thread
>          when it receives a DTLSEstablishFail notification from DTLS
>          (see Section 2.3.2.2).  This error notification aborts the
>          secure DTLS session establishment.  When this notification is
>          received, the FailedDTLSSessionCount counter is incremented.
> 
>    DTLS Setup to Authorize (f):  This transition occurs when an 
> incoming
>       DTLS session is being established, and the DTLS stack needs
>       authorization to proceed with the session establishment.
> 
>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives the
>          DTLSPeerAuthorize notification (see Section 2.3.2.2).  Upon
>          entering this state, the WTP performs an authorization check
>          against the AC credentials.  See Section 2.4.4 for more
>          information on AC authorization.
> 
>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the
>          DTLSPeerAuthorize notification (see Section 2.3.2.2).  Upon
>          entering this state, the AC performs an authorization check
>          against the WTP credentials.  See Section 2.4.4 for more
>          information on WTP authorization.
> 
>    Authorize to DTLS Connect (g):  This transition occurs to notify 
> the
>       DTLS stack that the session should be established.
> 
>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP has successfully
>          authorized the AC's credentials (see Section 2.4.4).  This is
>          done by invoking the DTLSAccept DTLS command (see
>          Section 2.3.2.1).
> 
>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC has successfully
>          authorized the WTP's credentials (see Section 2.4.4).  This 
> is
>          done by invoking the DTLSAccept DTLS command (see
>          Section 2.3.2.1).
> 
>    Authorize to DTLS Teardown (h):  This transition occurs to notify 
> the
>       DTLS stack that the session should be aborted.
> 
>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP was unable to
>          authorize the AC, using the AC credentials.  The WTP then
>          aborts the DTLS session by invoking the DTLSAbortSession
>          command (see Section 2.3.2.1).
> 
>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC was unable to
>          authorize the WTP, using the WTP credentials.  The AC then
>          aborts the DTLS session by invoking the DTLSAbortSession
>          command (see Section 2.3.2.1).
> 
>    DTLS Connect to DTLS Teardown (7):  This transition occurs when the
>       DTLS Session failed to be established.
> 
>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives either 
> a
>          DTLSAborted or DTLSAuthenticateFail notification (see
>          Section 2.3.2.2), indicating that the DTLS session was not
>          successfully established.  When this transition occurs due to
>          the DTLSAuthenticateFail notification, the
>          FailedDTLSAuthFailCount is incremented, otherwise the
>          FailedDTLSSessionCount counter is incremented.
> 
>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
> 
>    DTLS Connect to DTLS Setup (i):  This transition occurs when the 
> DTLS
>       Session failed to be established.
> 
>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
> 
>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives either a
>          DTLSAborted or DTLSAuthenticateFail notification (see
>          Section 2.3.2.2), indicating that the DTLS session was not
>          successfully established, and both of the
>          FailedDTLSAuthFailCount and FailedDTLSSessionCount counters
>          have not reached the value of the MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry
>          variable (see Section 4.8).
> 
>    DTLS Connect to Dead (j):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>       Session failed to be established.
> 
>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
> 
>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives either a
>          DTLSAborted or DTLSAuthenticateFail notification (see
>          Section 2.3.2.2), indicating that the DTLS session was not
>          successfully established, and either the
>          FailedDTLSAuthFailCount and FailedDTLSSessionCount counters
>          have reached the value of the MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry
>          variable (see Section 4.8).
> 
>    DTLS Connect to Join (k):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>       Session is successfully established.
> 
>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives the
>          DTLSEstablished notification (see Section 2.3.2.2), 
> indicating
>          that the DTLS session was successfully established.  
> When this
>          notification is received, the FailedDTLSSessionCount counter 
> is
>          set to zero.
> 
>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the
>          DTLSEstablished notification (see Section 2.3.2.2), 
> indicating
>          that the DTLS session was successfully established.  
> When this
>          notification is received, the FailedDTLSSessionCount counter 
> is
>          set to zero, and the WaitJoin timer is started (see
>          Section 4.7).
> 
>    Join to DTLS Teardown (l):  This transition occurs when the join
>       process failed.
> 
>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives a Join
>          Response message with a Result Code message element 
> containing
>          an error, if the Image Identifier provided by the AC in the
>          Join Response message differs from the WTP's currently 
> running
>          firmware version and the WTP has the requested image in its
>          non-volatile memory, or if the WaitDTLS timer expires.  This
>          causes the WTP to initiate the DTLSShutdown command (see
>          Section 2.3.2.1).  This transition also occurs if the WTP
>          receives one of the following DTLS notifications: 
> DTLSAborted,
>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect.
> 
>       AC:  This state transition occurs either if the WaitJoin timer
>          expires or if the AC transmits a Join Response message with a
>          Result Code message element containing an error.  This causes
>          the AC to initiate the DTLSShutdown command (see
>          Section 2.3.2.1).  This transition also occurs if the AC
>          receives one of the following DTLS notifications: 
> DTLSAborted,
>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect.
> 
>    Join to Image Data (m):  This state transition is used by the WTP 
> and
>       the AC to download executable firmware.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Image Data state when it receives a
>          successful Join Response message and determines and the
>          included Image Identifier message element is not the same as
>          its currently running image.  The WTP also detects that the
>          requested image version is not currently available in the 
> WTP's
>          non-volatile storage (see Section 9.1 for a full description 
> of
>          the firmware download process).  The WTP initializes the
>          EchoInterval timer (see Section 4.7), and transmits the Image
>          Data Request message (see Section 9.1.1) requesting the start
>          of the firmware download.
> 
>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the Image
>          Data Request message from the WTP.  The AC MUST transmit an
>          Image Data Response message (see Section 9.1.2) to the WTP,
>          which includes a portion of the firmware.  The AC MUST start
>          the ImageDataStartTimer timer (see Section 4.7).
> 
>    Join to Configure (n):  This state transition is used by the WTP 
> and
>       the AC to exchange configuration information.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Configure state when it receives a
>          successful Join Response, and determines that the included
>          Image Identifier message element is the same as its currently
>          running image.  The WTP transmits the Configuration Status
>          message (see Section 8.2) to the AC with message elements
>          describing its current configuration.  The WTP also starts 
> the
>          ResponseTimeout timer (see Section 4.7).
> 
>       AC:  This state transition occurs immediately after the AC
>          transmits the Join Response message to the WTP.  If the AC
>          receives the Configuration Status message from the WTP, the 
> AC
>          MUST transmit a Configuration Status Response message (see
>          Section 8.3) to the WTP, and MAY include specific message
>          elements to override the WTP's configuration.  The AC also
>          starts the ChangeStatePendingTimer timer (see Section 4.7).
> 
>    Configure to Reset (o):  This state transition is used to reset the
>       connection either due to an error during the configuration 
> phase,
>       or when the WTP determines it needs to reset in order for the 
> new
>       configuration to take effect.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Reset state when it receives a
>          Configuration Status Response indicating an error or when it
>          determines that a reset of the WTP is required, due to the
>          characteristics of a new configuration.
> 
>       AC:  The AC transitions to the Reset state when it receives a
>          Change State Event message from the WTP that contains an 
> error
>          for which AC policy does not permit the WTP to provide 
> service.
>          This state transition also occurs when the AC
>          ChangeStatePendingTimer timer expires.
> 
>    Configure to DTLS Teardown (p):  This transition occurs when the
>       configuration process aborts due to a DTLS error.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives one of the
>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS session if 
> it
>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.
> 
>       AC:  The AC enters this state when it receives one of the
>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS session if 
> it
>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.
> 
>    Image Data to Image Data (q):  The Image Data state is used by the
>       WTP and the AC during the firmware download phase.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Image Data state when it receives an
>          Image Data Response message indicating that the AC has more
>          data to send.
> 
>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the Image
>          Data Request message from the WTP while already in the Image
>          Data state.  The AC resets the ImageDataStartTimer timer.
> 
>    Image Data to Reset (r):  This state transition is used to reset 
> the
>       DTLS connection prior to restarting the WTP after an image
>       download.
> 
>       WTP:  When an image download completes, the WTP enters the Reset
>          state.  The WTP MAY also transition to this state upon
>          receiving an Image Data Response message from the AC (see
>          Section 9.1.2) indicating a failure.
> 
>       AC:  The AC enters the Reset state when an error occurs during 
> the
>          image download process or if the ImageDataStartTimer timer
>          expires.
> 
>    Image Data to DTLS Teardown (s):  This transition occurs when the
>       firmware download process aborts due to a DTLS error.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives one of the
>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS session if 
> it
>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.
> 
>       AC:  The AC enters this state when it receives one of the
>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS session if 
> it
>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.
> 
>    Configure to Data Check (t):  This state transition occurs when the
>       WTP and AC confirm the configuration.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives a successful
>          Configuration Status Response message from the AC.  The WTP
>          initializes the EchoInterval timer (see Section 4.7), and
>          transmits the Change State Event Request message (see
>          Section 8.6).
> 
>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the 
> Change
>          State Event Request message (see Section 8.6) from the WTP.
>          The AC responds with a Change State Event Response message 
> (see
>          Section 8.7).  The AC MUST start the DataCheckTimer timer 
> (see
>          Section 4.7).
> 
>    Data Check to DTLS Teardown (u):  This transition occurs when the 
> WTP
>       does not complete the Data Check exchange.
> 
>       WTP:  This state transition occurs if the WTP does not receive 
> the
>          Change State Event Response before a CAPWAP transmission
>          timeout occurs.
> 
>       AC:  The AC enters this state when the DataCheckTimer timer
>          expires (see Section 4.7).
> 
>    Data Check to Run (V):  This state transition occurs when the 
> linkage
>       between the control and data channels has occured, causing the 
> WTP
>       and AC to enter their normal state of operation.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives a successful
>          Change State Event Response message from the AC.  The WTP
>          initiates the data channel, which MAY require the 
> establishment
>          of a DTLS session, starts the DataChannelKeepAlive timer (see
>          Section 4.7) and transmits a Data Channel Keep Alive packet
>          (see Section 4.4.1).  The WTP then starts the
>          DataChannelDeadInterval timer (see Section 4.7).
> 
>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the Data
>          Channel Keep Alive packet (see Section 4.4.1), with a Session
>          ID message element matching that included by the WTP in the
>          Join Request message.  The AC disables the DataCheckTimer
>          timer.  Note that if AC policy is to require the data channel
>          to be encrypted, this process would also require the
>          establishment of a data channel DTLS session.  Upon receiving
>          the Data Channel Keep Alive packet, the AC transmits its own
>          Data Channel Keep Alive packet.
> 
>    Run to DTLS Teardown (w):  This state transition occurs when an 
> error
>       has occured in the DTLS stack, causing the DTLS session to be
>       torndown.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives one of the
>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS session if 
> it
>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.  
> The WTP also
>          transitions to this state if the underlying reliable
>          transport's RetransmitCount counter has reached the
>          MaxRetransmit variable (see Section 4.7).
> 
>       AC:  The AC enters this state when it receives one of the
>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS session if 
> it
>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.  The AC
>          transitions to this state if the underlying reliable
>          transport's RetransmitCount counter has reached the
>          MaxRetransmit variable (see Section 4.7).
> 
>    Run to Run (x):  This is the normal state of operation.
> 
>       WTP:  This is the WTP's normal state of operation.  
> There are many
>          events that result this state transition:
> 
>          Configuration Update:  The WTP receives a Configuration 
> Update
>             Request message(see Section 8.4).  The WTP MUST respond 
> with
>             a Configuration Update Response message (see Section 8.5).
> 
>          Change State Event:  The WTP receives a Change State Event
>             Response message, or determines that it must initiate a
>             Change State Event Request message, as a result of a 
> failure
>             or change in the state of a radio.
> 
>          Echo Request:  The WTP sends an Echo Request message
>             (Section 7.1) or receives the corresponding Echo Response
>             message, (see Section 7.2) from the AC.
> 
>          Clear Config Request:  The WTP receives a Clear Configuration
>             Request message (see Section 8.8).  The WTP MUST reset its
>             configuration back to manufacturer defaults.
> 
>          WTP Event:  The WTP sends a WTP Event Request message,
>             delivering information to the AC (see Section 9.4).  The 
> WTP
>             receives a WTP Event Response message from the AC (see
>             Section 9.5).
> 
>          Data Transfer:  The WTP sends a Data Transfer Request message
>             to the AC (see Section 9.6).  The WTP receives a Data
>             Transfer Response message from the AC (see Section 9.7).
> 
>          Station Configuration Request:  The WTP receives a Station
>             Configuration Request message (see Section 10.1), to which
>             it MUST respond with a Station Configuration Response
>             message (see Section 10.2).
> 
>       AC:  This is the AC's normal state of operation:
> 
>          Configuration Update:  The AC sends a Configuration Update
>             Request message (see Section 8.4) to the WTP to update its
>             configuration.  The AC receives a Configuration Update
>             Response message (see Section 8.5) from the WTP.
> 
>          Change State Event:  The AC receives a Change State Event
>             Request message (see Section 8.6), to which it MUST 
> respond
>             with the Change State Event Response message (see
>             Section 8.7).
> 
>          Echo Request:  The AC receives an Echo Request message (see
>             Section 7.1), to which it MUST respond with an Echo 
> Response
>             message(see Section 7.2).
> 
>          Clear Config Response:  The AC receives a Clear Configuration
>             Response message from the WTP (see Section 8.9).
> 
>          WTP Event:  The AC receives a WTP Event Request message from
>             the WTP (see Section 9.4) and MUST generate a 
> corresponding
>             WTP Event Response message (see Section 9.5).
> 
>          Data Transfer:  The AC receives a Data Transfer Request 
> message
>             from the WTP (see Section 9.6) and MUST generate a
>             corresponding Data Transfer Response message (see
>             Section 9.7).
> 
>          Station Configuration Request:  The AC sends a Station
>             Configuration Request message (see Section 10.1) or 
> receives
>             the corresponding Station Configuration Response message
>             (see Section 10.2) from the WTP.
> 
>    Run to Reset (y):  This state transition is used when either the AC
>       or WTP tear down the connection.  This may occur as part of 
> normal
>       operation, or due to error conditions.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Reset state when it receives a Reset
>          Request message from the AC.
> 
>       AC:  The AC enters the Reset state when it transmits a Reset
>          Request message to the WTP.
> 
>    Reset to DTLS Teardown (z):  This transition occurs when the CAPWAP
>       reset is complete, to terminate the DTLS session.
> 
>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives a Reset
>          Response message.  This causes the WTP to initiate the
>          DTLSShutdown command (see Section 2.3.2.1).
> 
>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC transmits a Reset
>          Response message.  The AC does not invoke the DTLSShutdown
>          command (see Section 2.3.2.1).
> 
>    DTLS Teardown to Idle (8):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>       session has been shutdown.
> 
>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP has successfully
>          cleaned up all resources associated with the control plane 
> DTLS
>          session.  The data plane DTLS session is also shutdown, and 
> all
>          resources freed, if a DTLS session was established for the 
> data
>          plane.  Any timers set for the current instance of the state
>          machine are also cleared.
> 
>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
> 
>    DTLS Teardown to Sulking (9):  This transition occurs when repeated
>       attempts to setup the DTLS connection have failed.
> 
>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when the FailedDTLSSessionCount 
> or
>          the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount counter reaches the value of the
>          MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section 4.8).  Upon
>          entering this state, the WTP MUST start the SilentInterval
>          timer.  While in the Sulking state, all received CAPWAP and
>          DTLS protocol messages received MUST be ignored.
> 
>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
> 
>    DTLS Teardown to Dead (~):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>       session has been shutdown.
> 
>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
> 
>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC has successfully
>          cleaned up all resources associated with the control plane 
> DTLS
>          session.  The data plane DTLS session is also shutdown, and 
> all
>          resources freed, if a DTLS session was established for the 
> data
>          plane.  Any timers set for the current instance of the state
>          machine are also cleared.  The AC's Service thread is
>          terminated.
> 
> 12.3.  Discovery Attacks
> [...]
>    Some implementations may wish to pass information about clients who
>    have passed the discovery phase to the DTLS layer, authorizing only
>    those clients to initiate a DTLS handshake.  Note that the impact 
> of
>    this on mitigating denial of service attacks against the DTLS layer
>    is minimal, because DTLS already uses client-side cookies to 
> minimize
>    processor consumption attacks.  As a result, implementations SHOULD
>    NOT maintain state between the discovery and DTLS handshake phases 
> of
>    the CAPWAP protocol initialization.
> 
> </text>
> 
> PatC
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:17 AM
> To: capwap
> Subject: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking on AC prior to

> DTLSEstablishment
> 
> I wanted to provide a follow-up based on the conversation during the 
> meeting yesterday. The issue that is being raised in this issue is 
> that the state machine doesn't really work well on the AC. There is 
> text that states that the AC has a different "state context" per WTP, 
> but right now this would require that the AC maintains state during 
> the discovery, etc. However, we have all agreed that the AC should not

> have to do so.
> So we agreed that we needed to provide more clarity on the state 
> machine that allows for the AC to provide services such as responding 
> to Discovery Requests, without explicitely maintaining per WTP state.
>  
> I am working on modifications to the state machine, and expect to have

> this sent to the list later today.
>  
> PatC
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Hi Pat,
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1) In section 4.3 of -08 draft, the "Wireless Specific Information"
optional field has an 8-bit "Wireless ID" field. There is a similar 5
bit WBID field in the main capwap header (in the first 32 bits). Are the
two same? If the two are the same, then we should delete the "Wireless
ID" in the "Wireless Specific Information" optional header.
=20
2) The "Wireless Specific Information" field for .11 is described in
section 4 of the -05 .11 binding spec. Does the text in section 4 "IEEE
802.11 Frame Info" describe the "data" part of the "Wireless Specific
Information" in the base spec? If so, then we should clarify this in the
-05 .11 spec.
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3) The base spec requires that the optional elements be 4 byte aligned.
The "Wireless Specific Information" field has 2 bytes of "Wireless ID" +
"Length which means that the "Data" part should be 2, 6, 10 etc in
length. However the .11 spec only defines a 4 byte "Data" part (see 2
above) which does not meet the alignment requirements. We should change
the .11 binding spec and make the "Data" 6 bytes in length with the last
2 bytes being reserved.
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I'm trying to compare Pat and Scott's suggested changes.  Scott is 
suggesting removing (f) and adding a new transition from discovery to 
idle (at least those would be necessary for your proposed text to make 
sense).  Pat is also suggesting doing that, but is also suggesting some 
additional changes that deal with further separation of a logical global 
state machine in the AC and per-WTP state machines (by adding the "Dead" 
state and a rearranging a few more state transitions).

I think there are problems in the state machine if we only patch the 
idle/discovery transitions, as suggested by Scott.  In particular, 
there's no way to throttle failed DTLS connections when no discovery is 
performed (the only error exit from DTLS Setup is to Idle -- we need a 
way to get from DTLS Setup to sulking to prevent repeated crypto 
failures from causing Idle->DTLSSetup->Idle loops).

I'm not seeing Scott's issues with the new state machine (i.e. the "new 
problems and confusion").  The discovery-idle-sulking changes seem 
logically identical between the two proposals.  If there are text 
issues, I think those can be sorted out.

I think Scott's suggestions could work, but would need some additional 
transitions (i.e. DTLS Setup to Sulking for the WTP, among others) to 
make everything work right.

Whether Pat's changes are too drastic -- I guess that's for the WG to 
decide.  I do think Pat has a complete set of changes that solve all the 
issues raised in issue 30.

-- 
t. charles clancy, ph.d.                 eng.umd.edu/~tcc
electrical & computer engineering, university of maryland

Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) wrote:
> The reason why I like the new state machine is that it is very clear on
> how the AC deals with the fact that it keeps multiple copies of state
> machine context. The previous version really didn't make that clear at
> all. As an implementer, I know that I just have to follow the
> guidelines, which clearly state when a copy is made, and managed
> independently, and when it is deleted.
> 
> I recognize this provides some implementation guidance, and some folks
> don't like that. But it certainly is clear.
> 
> If the issue has to do with the Sulking state, then we can address that.
> I would, however, be interested in Charles' take on that issue.
> 
> PatC 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Kelly [mailto:skelly@arubanetworks.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 9:17 AM
> To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou); capwap
> Subject: RE: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking on AC prior
> toDTLSEstablishment
> 
> We've had a private discussion on this topic off-list, but have not been
> able to come to agreement, so I'll make my comments here. I don't think
> we should (or need to) introduce these dramatic changes to the document
> just prior to last call.
> 
> The "problem" we are trying to resolve resulted when someone added
> language saying the AC MAY maintain discovery state. This change was
> apparently introduced last January. There is no record of working group
> or mailing list discussion -- the change just appeared in a document
> update. 
> 
> On Oct 12, Pat posted a comment saying the state machine language
> surrounding discovery state is inconsistent. I agree. It was made
> inconsistent by the introduction of discovery state to the AC.
> 
> In the issue tracker, there is a comment from Charles which must have
> been copied from a private email, as I cannot find it in the list
> archives. Here is that comment:
> 
> ----------------------------------------------
> It seems to me that to be in any state at all assumes state is being
> maintained.  Describing a transition from one state to another with
> behavior caveatted with "if state is being maintained" doesn't make any
> sense to me.  
> If we have no state, then we have no state transitions.
> 
> IIRC, don't we allow connections that don't do discovery first (it's
> been a while, correct me if I'm wrong)?  In which case, DTLS on the AC
> should always be listening, and transition "f" can be simply a WTP
> transition.  The AC
> 
> transition would be back to Idle rather than DTLS setup.  You could run
> discovery as its own subgraph of the AC state machine.  If you wanted to
> share state information between the two, you could have an API to do
> that.
> ------------------------------------------------
> 
> I agree with what Charles says above.
> 
> The changes Pat is proposing do not fix the problem - they actually
> introduce new problems and confusion. Since we have agreed that the AC
> SHOULD NOT maintain discovery state, the discovery-idle-sulking
> transitions make no sense in the context of the AC. However, fixing this
> does not require separate state machines, or dramatic changes to the
> existing state machine.
> 
> In draft-08, section 2.3, just below Figure 3, it says "The CAPWAP
> protocol state machine, depicted above, is used by both the AC and the
> WTP.  In cases where states are not shared (i.e. not implemented in one
> or the other of the AC or WTP), this is explicitly called out in the
> transition descriptions below." 
> 
> This implies that we just need to make sure the state machine language
> around AC discovery processing is clear. We can do this by adopting
> three simple changes recommended in Pat's text below (with minor edits):
> 
> For Idle-to-Discovery it should say:
> 
>       AC:  This state transition is executed by the AC
>          when a Discovery Request message is
>          received.  The AC SHOULD respond with a Discovery Response
>          message (see Section 5.2).  The AC SHOULD NOT maintain WTP
>          state at this point (see Section 12 for more information).
> 
> For Discovery to Idle it should say:  
> 
>       AC:  This state transition is executed by the AC after processing
>          a Discovery Request.
> 
> For Discovery to Sulking it says:
>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
> 
> 
> With these simple changes, the problem is solved. 
> 
> --Scott
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) [mailto:pcalhoun@cisco.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 3:28 PM
>> To: capwap
>> Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking on AC 
>> prior toDTLSEstablishment
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I wanted to send the new state machine in order to get as many eyes on
> 
>> this one as possible. I have done what I believe is a very thorough 
>> review, but this is a complex state machine. I will also include all 
>> of the state machine text in order to make it simpler to review.
>> Note that
>> other than the teardown, no changes were made from the join/config 
>> states on (meaning, only the lower part of the state machine figure 
>> was modified).
>>
>> Since there is significant text here, I want to provide a little bit 
>> of information on how this now works:
>> - The WTP behaves pretty much the same as before, meaning that it uses
> 
>> a single state context. When a connection attempt fails, the state 
>> machine goes back to the Idle state, unless some counters have hit a 
>> threshold, in which case the state transitions to the Sulking state. 
>> As before the WTP can do the Discovery phase, in which case either 
>> state
>> (5) or (c) is
>> used. 
>> - The AC now defines two separate threads; Listener and Service. The 
>> Listener is the main thread that handles the discovery messages. Once 
>> a connection request is received, it spawns a Service thread to deal 
>> with the WTP. You will notice that the new state machine uses numerals
> 
>> when it applies either only to the WTP, or to the Listener thread.
>> All state
>> transitions that use alphabetic, or symbols, is for the Service thread
> 
>> or the WTP. The biggest difference in how the state machines work is 
>> that on the AC, when a connection is being established, and fails, the
> 
>> Service thread's state moves back to the DTLS Setup state, not Idle.
>> When the error thresholds are hit, the state moves to Sulking - the 
>> quiet period. You will also notice a new Dead state, which is ONLY 
>> valid for the Service thread, which is where the thread is terminated,
> 
>> and resources are freed.
>>  
>> Comments welcomed,
>>
>> PatC
>>
>>
>> <text>
>> 2.3.  CAPWAP State Machine Definition
>>
>>    The following state diagram represents the lifecycle of a WTP-AC
>>    session.  Use of DTLS by the CAPWAP protocol results in the
>>    juxtaposition of two nominally separate yet tightly bound state
>>    machines.  The DTLS and CAPWAP state machines are coupled through 
>> an
>>    API consisting of commands (see Section 2.3.2.1) and notifications
>>    (see Section 2.3.2.2).  Certain transitions in the DTLS state 
>> machine
>>    are triggered by commands from the CAPWAP state machine, while
>>    certain transitions in the CAPWAP state machine are triggered by
>>    notifications from the DTLS state machine.
>>
>>                             /-------------------------------------\
>>                             |          /-------------------------\|
>>                             |         w|                         ||
>>                             |    x+----------+ y +------------+  ||
>>                             |     |   Run    |-->|   Reset    |-\||
>>                             |     +----------+   +------------+ |||
>>                            u|  V      ^           ^     ^      z|||
>>                 +------------+--------/           |     |       |||
>>                 | Data Check |             /-------/    |       |||
>>                 +------------+<-------\   |             |       |||
>>                                       |   |             |       |||
>>                        /------------------+--------\    |       |||
>>                       m|             t|  o|    q   v   r|       |||
>>                +--------+     +-----------+     +--------------+|||
>>                |  Join  |---->| Configure |     |  Image Data  ||||
>>                +--------+  n  +-----------+     +--------------+|||
>>                 ^   |l                 p|                    s| |||
>>                 |   |                   \-------------------\ | |||
>>                 |   \--------------------------------------\| | |||
>>                 \------------------------\                 || | |||
>>          /--------------<----------------+---------------\ || | |||
>>          | /------------<----------------+-------------\ | || | |||
>>          | |                      i      |k           8| | vv v vvv
>>          | |  d+----------------+<--+--------------+   +-----------+
>>        /-|-|---|   DTLS Setup   |   | DTLS Connect |-->|  DTLS TD  |
>>        | | |   +----------------+e  +--------------+ 7 +-----------+
>>        | | |   6|   ^      ^  |f         ^       j|      ^  |~
>>        v v v    |   |      |  |          |        |      |  |
>>        | | |    |   |      |  \-------\  |   /----+------/  |
>>        | | |    |   |      |          |  |   |    \---\     |
>>        | | |    v  c|  1   |5    2    v  |g  |h       v     v
>>        | | \->+------+-->+------+   +-----------+    +--------+
>>        | |    | Idle |   | Disc |   | Authorize |    |  Dead  |
>>        | |    +------+<--+------+   +-----------+    +--------+
>>        | |        ^    0      |3                         ^
>>        | |        |           |                          |b
>>        | |9       |4          |                          |
>>        | \->+---------+<------/                          |
>>        \--->| Sulking |----------------------------------/
>>             +---------+
>>                       a
>>
>>                  Figure 3: CAPWAP Integrated State Machine
>>
>>    The CAPWAP protocol state machine, depicted above, is used by both
>>    the AC and the WTP.  In cases where states are not shared (i.e. not
>>    implemented in one or the other of the AC or WTP), this is 
>> explicitly
>>    called out in the transition descriptions below.  For every state
>>
>>    defined, only certain messages are permitted to be sent and 
>> received.
>>    The CAPWAP control messages definitions specify the
>> state(s) in which
>>    each message is valid.
>>
>>    Since the WTP only communicates with a single AC, it only has a
>>    single instance of the CAPWAP state machine.  The state machine 
>> works
>>    differently on the AC since it communicates with many WTPs.  The AC
>>    uses the concept of two threads.  Note that the term thread used 
>> here
>>    does not necessarily imply that implementers must use threads, but 
>> it
>>    is one possible way of implementing the AC's state machine.
>>
>>    Listener Thread -   The AC's Listener thread handles the shared
>>       services, which includes receiving and responding to Discovery
>>       Requests.  The Listener thread handles the common tasks, up to 
>> the
>>       DTLS Setup state.  The state machine transitions in the above
>>       figure are represented by numerals.
>>
>>    Service Thread -   The AC's Service thread handles the per WTP
>>       states, and one such thread exists per WTP connection.  This
>>       thread starts during the DTLS Setup state, which is when the
>>       DTLSListen command is invoked.  When created, the Service thread
>>       inherits a copy of the state machine context from the Listener
>>       thread.  When communication with the WTP is complete, the 
>> Service
>>       thread is terminated.  The state machine transitions in the 
>> above
>>       figure are represented by alphabetic characters (including
>>       symbols).
>>
>> 2.3.1.  CAPWAP Protocol State Transitions
>>
>>    This section describes the various state transitions, and the 
>> events
>>    that cause them.  This section does not discuss interactions 
>> between
>>    DTLS- and CAPWAP-specific states.  Those interactions, and DTLS-
>>    specific states and transitions, are discussed in Section 2.3.2.
>>
>>    Idle to Discovery (1):  This transition occurs once device
>>       initialization is complete.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Discovery state prior to transmitting 
>> the
>>          first Discovery Request message (see Section 5.1).  Upon
>>          entering this state, the WTP sets the DiscoveryInterval timer
>>          (see Section 4.7).  The WTP resets the DiscoveryCount counter
>>          to zero (0) (see Section 4.8).  The WTP also clears all
>>          information from ACs it may have received during a previous
>>          Discovery phase.
>>
>>       AC:  This state transition is executed by the AC's Listener
>>          thread, and occurs when a Discovery Request message is
>>          received.  The AC SHOULD respond with a Discovery Response
>>          message (see Section 5.2).  The AC SHOULD NOT maintain WTP
>>          state at this point (see Section 12 for more information).
>>
>>    Discovery to Discovery (2):  In the Discovery state, the WTP
>>       determines which AC to connect to.
>>
>>       WTP:  This transition occurs when the DiscoveryInterval timer
>>          expires.  If the WTP is configured with a list of ACs, it
>>          transmits a Discovery Request message to every AC from which 
>> it
>>          has not received a Discovery Response message.  For every
>>          transition to this event, the WTP increments the 
>> DiscoveryCount
>>          counter.  See Section 5.1 for more information on how the WTP
>>          knows the ACs to which it should transmit the Discovery 
>> Request
>>          messages.  The WTP restarts the DiscoveryInterval timer
>>          whenever it transmits Discovery Request messages.
>>
>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>>
>>    Discovery to Idle (0):  This transition occurs on the AC's Listener
>>       thread when the Discovery processing is complete.
>>
>>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
>>
>>       AC:  This state transition is executed by the AC's Listener 
>> thread
>>          when it has transmitted the Discovery Response, in response 
>> to
>>          a Discovery Request.
>>
>>    Discovery to Sulking (3):  This transition occurs on a WTP when AC
>>       Discovery fails.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when the DiscoveryInterval timer
>>          expires and the DiscoveryCount variable is equal to the
>>          MaxDiscoveries variable (see Section 4.8).  Upon entering 
>> this
>>          state, the WTP MUST start the SilentInterval timer.  While in
>>          the Sulking state, all received CAPWAP protocol messages
>>          received MUST be ignored.
>>
>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>>
>>    Sulking to Idle (4):  This transition occurs on a WTP when it must
>>       restart the discovery phase.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when the SilentInterval timer 
>> (see
>>          Section 4.7) expires.  The FailedDTLSSessionCount,
>>          DiscoveryCount and FailedDTLSAuthFailCount counters are reset
>>          to zero.
>>
>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>>
>>    Sulking to Sulking (a):  The Sulking state provides the silent
>>       period, minimizing the possibility for Denial of Service (DoS)
>>       attacks.
>>
>>       WTP:  All packets received from the AC while in the sulking 
>> state
>>          are ignored.
>>
>>       AC:  All packets receive from the WTP on the AC's Service 
>> thread,
>>          while in the sulking state, are ignored.
>>
>>    Sulking to Dead (b):  This transition occurs on the AC when the 
>> quiet
>>       period expires.
>>
>>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
>>
>>       AC:  The AC enters this state when the SilentInterval timer (see
>>          Section 4.7) expires.  The AC must clean up all resources
>>          associated with the control plane DTLS session.  The data 
>> plane
>>          DTLS session is also shutdown, and all resources freed, if a
>>          DTLS session was established for the data plane.  Any timers
>>          set for the current instance of the state machine are also
>>          cleared.  The AC's Service thread is terminated.
>>
>>    Idle to DTLS Setup (c):  This transition occurs to establish a 
>> secure
>>       DTLS session with the peer.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP initiates this transition by invoking the 
>> DTLSStart
>>          command, which starts the DTLS session establishment with the
>>          chosen AC.  When the discovery phase is bypassed, it is 
>> assumed
>>          the WTP has locally configured ACs.
>>
>>       AC:  The AC initiates this transition by invoking the DTLSListen
>>          command (see Section 2.3.2.1), which informs the DTLS stack
>>          that it is willing to listen for an incoming session.  The 
>> AC's
>>          Listener thread forks an instance of the Service thread, 
>> along
>>          with a copy of the state context.  If the AC had maintained 
>> WTP
>>          state information during the Discovery exchange, or through
>>          some other means that may include static configuration of 
>> WTPs,
>>          the AC MAY provide optional qualifiers in the DTLSListen
>>          command to only accept session requests a specific WTP.  Note
>>          that the AC SHOULD NOT maintain state information based on an
>>          unsecured Discovery Request message, as this can lead to a
>>          Denial of Service attack (see Section 12).  In such 
>> instances,
>>          the AC MUST ensure that this state information is freed after
> 
>> a
>>          period, which is implementation specific.
>>
>>    Discovery to DTLS Setup (5):  This transition occurs to establish a
>>       secure DTLS session with the peer.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP initiates this transition by invoking the 
>> DTLSStart
>>          command (see Section 2.3.2.1), which starts the DTLS session
>>          establishment with the chosen AC.  The decision of which AC 
>> to
>>          connect to is the result of the discovery phase, which is
>>          described in Section 3.3.
>>
>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>>
>>    DTLS Setup to Idle (6):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>>       connection setup has failed.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP initiates this state transition when it receives a
>>          DTLSEstablishFail notification from DTLS (see Section 
>> 2.3.2.2),
>>          and the FailedDTLSSessionCount or the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount
>>          counter have not reached the value of the
>>          MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section 4.8).  This
>>          error notification aborts the secure DTLS session
>>          establishment.  When this notification is received, the
>>          FailedDTLSSessionCount counter is incremented.
>>
>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>>
>>    DTLS Setup to Sulking (d):  This transition occurs when repeated
>>       attempts to setup the DTLS connection have failed.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when the FailedDTLSSessionCount 
>> or
>>          the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount counter reaches the value of the
>>          MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section 4.8).  Upon
>>          entering this state, the WTP MUST start the SilentInterval
>>          timer.  While in the Sulking state, all received CAPWAP and
>>          DTLS protocol messages received MUST be ignored.
>>
>>       AC:  The AC enters this state with the specific WTP when the
>>          FailedDTLSSessionCount or the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount counter
>>          reaches MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section 4.8).
>>          Upon entering this state, the AC's Service thread MUST start
>>          the SilentInterval timer, and ignore all CAPWAP and DTLS
>>          protocol messages received from the WTP.  The AC immediately
>>          transitions the state to Idle.
>>
>>    DTLS Setup to DTLS Setup (e):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>>       Session failed to be established.
>>
>>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
>>
>>       AC:  The AC initiates this state transition by the Service 
>> thread
>>          when it receives a DTLSEstablishFail notification from DTLS
>>          (see Section 2.3.2.2).  This error notification aborts the
>>          secure DTLS session establishment.  When this notification is
>>          received, the FailedDTLSSessionCount counter is incremented.
>>
>>    DTLS Setup to Authorize (f):  This transition occurs when an 
>> incoming
>>       DTLS session is being established, and the DTLS stack needs
>>       authorization to proceed with the session establishment.
>>
>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives the
>>          DTLSPeerAuthorize notification (see Section 2.3.2.2).  Upon
>>          entering this state, the WTP performs an authorization check
>>          against the AC credentials.  See Section 2.4.4 for more
>>          information on AC authorization.
>>
>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the
>>          DTLSPeerAuthorize notification (see Section 2.3.2.2).  Upon
>>          entering this state, the AC performs an authorization check
>>          against the WTP credentials.  See Section 2.4.4 for more
>>          information on WTP authorization.
>>
>>    Authorize to DTLS Connect (g):  This transition occurs to notify 
>> the
>>       DTLS stack that the session should be established.
>>
>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP has successfully
>>          authorized the AC's credentials (see Section 2.4.4).  This is
>>          done by invoking the DTLSAccept DTLS command (see
>>          Section 2.3.2.1).
>>
>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC has successfully
>>          authorized the WTP's credentials (see Section 2.4.4).  This 
>> is
>>          done by invoking the DTLSAccept DTLS command (see
>>          Section 2.3.2.1).
>>
>>    Authorize to DTLS Teardown (h):  This transition occurs to notify 
>> the
>>       DTLS stack that the session should be aborted.
>>
>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP was unable to
>>          authorize the AC, using the AC credentials.  The WTP then
>>          aborts the DTLS session by invoking the DTLSAbortSession
>>          command (see Section 2.3.2.1).
>>
>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC was unable to
>>          authorize the WTP, using the WTP credentials.  The AC then
>>          aborts the DTLS session by invoking the DTLSAbortSession
>>          command (see Section 2.3.2.1).
>>
>>    DTLS Connect to DTLS Teardown (7):  This transition occurs when the
>>       DTLS Session failed to be established.
>>
>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives either 
>> a
>>          DTLSAborted or DTLSAuthenticateFail notification (see
>>          Section 2.3.2.2), indicating that the DTLS session was not
>>          successfully established.  When this transition occurs due to
>>          the DTLSAuthenticateFail notification, the
>>          FailedDTLSAuthFailCount is incremented, otherwise the
>>          FailedDTLSSessionCount counter is incremented.
>>
>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>>
>>    DTLS Connect to DTLS Setup (i):  This transition occurs when the 
>> DTLS
>>       Session failed to be established.
>>
>>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
>>
>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives either a
>>          DTLSAborted or DTLSAuthenticateFail notification (see
>>          Section 2.3.2.2), indicating that the DTLS session was not
>>          successfully established, and both of the
>>          FailedDTLSAuthFailCount and FailedDTLSSessionCount counters
>>          have not reached the value of the MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry
>>          variable (see Section 4.8).
>>
>>    DTLS Connect to Dead (j):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>>       Session failed to be established.
>>
>>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
>>
>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives either a
>>          DTLSAborted or DTLSAuthenticateFail notification (see
>>          Section 2.3.2.2), indicating that the DTLS session was not
>>          successfully established, and either the
>>          FailedDTLSAuthFailCount and FailedDTLSSessionCount counters
>>          have reached the value of the MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry
>>          variable (see Section 4.8).
>>
>>    DTLS Connect to Join (k):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>>       Session is successfully established.
>>
>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives the
>>          DTLSEstablished notification (see Section 2.3.2.2), 
>> indicating
>>          that the DTLS session was successfully established.  
>> When this
>>          notification is received, the FailedDTLSSessionCount counter 
>> is
>>          set to zero.
>>
>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the
>>          DTLSEstablished notification (see Section 2.3.2.2), 
>> indicating
>>          that the DTLS session was successfully established.  
>> When this
>>          notification is received, the FailedDTLSSessionCount counter 
>> is
>>          set to zero, and the WaitJoin timer is started (see
>>          Section 4.7).
>>
>>    Join to DTLS Teardown (l):  This transition occurs when the join
>>       process failed.
>>
>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives a Join
>>          Response message with a Result Code message element 
>> containing
>>          an error, if the Image Identifier provided by the AC in the
>>          Join Response message differs from the WTP's currently 
>> running
>>          firmware version and the WTP has the requested image in its
>>          non-volatile memory, or if the WaitDTLS timer expires.  This
>>          causes the WTP to initiate the DTLSShutdown command (see
>>          Section 2.3.2.1).  This transition also occurs if the WTP
>>          receives one of the following DTLS notifications: 
>> DTLSAborted,
>>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect.
>>
>>       AC:  This state transition occurs either if the WaitJoin timer
>>          expires or if the AC transmits a Join Response message with a
>>          Result Code message element containing an error.  This causes
>>          the AC to initiate the DTLSShutdown command (see
>>          Section 2.3.2.1).  This transition also occurs if the AC
>>          receives one of the following DTLS notifications: 
>> DTLSAborted,
>>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect.
>>
>>    Join to Image Data (m):  This state transition is used by the WTP 
>> and
>>       the AC to download executable firmware.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Image Data state when it receives a
>>          successful Join Response message and determines and the
>>          included Image Identifier message element is not the same as
>>          its currently running image.  The WTP also detects that the
>>          requested image version is not currently available in the 
>> WTP's
>>          non-volatile storage (see Section 9.1 for a full description 
>> of
>>          the firmware download process).  The WTP initializes the
>>          EchoInterval timer (see Section 4.7), and transmits the Image
>>          Data Request message (see Section 9.1.1) requesting the start
>>          of the firmware download.
>>
>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the Image
>>          Data Request message from the WTP.  The AC MUST transmit an
>>          Image Data Response message (see Section 9.1.2) to the WTP,
>>          which includes a portion of the firmware.  The AC MUST start
>>          the ImageDataStartTimer timer (see Section 4.7).
>>
>>    Join to Configure (n):  This state transition is used by the WTP 
>> and
>>       the AC to exchange configuration information.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Configure state when it receives a
>>          successful Join Response, and determines that the included
>>          Image Identifier message element is the same as its currently
>>          running image.  The WTP transmits the Configuration Status
>>          message (see Section 8.2) to the AC with message elements
>>          describing its current configuration.  The WTP also starts 
>> the
>>          ResponseTimeout timer (see Section 4.7).
>>
>>       AC:  This state transition occurs immediately after the AC
>>          transmits the Join Response message to the WTP.  If the AC
>>          receives the Configuration Status message from the WTP, the 
>> AC
>>          MUST transmit a Configuration Status Response message (see
>>          Section 8.3) to the WTP, and MAY include specific message
>>          elements to override the WTP's configuration.  The AC also
>>          starts the ChangeStatePendingTimer timer (see Section 4.7).
>>
>>    Configure to Reset (o):  This state transition is used to reset the
>>       connection either due to an error during the configuration 
>> phase,
>>       or when the WTP determines it needs to reset in order for the 
>> new
>>       configuration to take effect.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Reset state when it receives a
>>          Configuration Status Response indicating an error or when it
>>          determines that a reset of the WTP is required, due to the
>>          characteristics of a new configuration.
>>
>>       AC:  The AC transitions to the Reset state when it receives a
>>          Change State Event message from the WTP that contains an 
>> error
>>          for which AC policy does not permit the WTP to provide 
>> service.
>>          This state transition also occurs when the AC
>>          ChangeStatePendingTimer timer expires.
>>
>>    Configure to DTLS Teardown (p):  This transition occurs when the
>>       configuration process aborts due to a DTLS error.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives one of the
>>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS session if 
>> it
>>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.
>>
>>       AC:  The AC enters this state when it receives one of the
>>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS session if 
>> it
>>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.
>>
>>    Image Data to Image Data (q):  The Image Data state is used by the
>>       WTP and the AC during the firmware download phase.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Image Data state when it receives an
>>          Image Data Response message indicating that the AC has more
>>          data to send.
>>
>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the Image
>>          Data Request message from the WTP while already in the Image
>>          Data state.  The AC resets the ImageDataStartTimer timer.
>>
>>    Image Data to Reset (r):  This state transition is used to reset 
>> the
>>       DTLS connection prior to restarting the WTP after an image
>>       download.
>>
>>       WTP:  When an image download completes, the WTP enters the Reset
>>          state.  The WTP MAY also transition to this state upon
>>          receiving an Image Data Response message from the AC (see
>>          Section 9.1.2) indicating a failure.
>>
>>       AC:  The AC enters the Reset state when an error occurs during 
>> the
>>          image download process or if the ImageDataStartTimer timer
>>          expires.
>>
>>    Image Data to DTLS Teardown (s):  This transition occurs when the
>>       firmware download process aborts due to a DTLS error.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives one of the
>>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS session if 
>> it
>>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.
>>
>>       AC:  The AC enters this state when it receives one of the
>>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS session if 
>> it
>>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.
>>
>>    Configure to Data Check (t):  This state transition occurs when the
>>       WTP and AC confirm the configuration.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives a successful
>>          Configuration Status Response message from the AC.  The WTP
>>          initializes the EchoInterval timer (see Section 4.7), and
>>          transmits the Change State Event Request message (see
>>          Section 8.6).
>>
>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the 
>> Change
>>          State Event Request message (see Section 8.6) from the WTP.
>>          The AC responds with a Change State Event Response message 
>> (see
>>          Section 8.7).  The AC MUST start the DataCheckTimer timer 
>> (see
>>          Section 4.7).
>>
>>    Data Check to DTLS Teardown (u):  This transition occurs when the 
>> WTP
>>       does not complete the Data Check exchange.
>>
>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs if the WTP does not receive 
>> the
>>          Change State Event Response before a CAPWAP transmission
>>          timeout occurs.
>>
>>       AC:  The AC enters this state when the DataCheckTimer timer
>>          expires (see Section 4.7).
>>
>>    Data Check to Run (V):  This state transition occurs when the 
>> linkage
>>       between the control and data channels has occured, causing the 
>> WTP
>>       and AC to enter their normal state of operation.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives a successful
>>          Change State Event Response message from the AC.  The WTP
>>          initiates the data channel, which MAY require the 
>> establishment
>>          of a DTLS session, starts the DataChannelKeepAlive timer (see
>>          Section 4.7) and transmits a Data Channel Keep Alive packet
>>          (see Section 4.4.1).  The WTP then starts the
>>          DataChannelDeadInterval timer (see Section 4.7).
>>
>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the Data
>>          Channel Keep Alive packet (see Section 4.4.1), with a Session
>>          ID message element matching that included by the WTP in the
>>          Join Request message.  The AC disables the DataCheckTimer
>>          timer.  Note that if AC policy is to require the data channel
>>          to be encrypted, this process would also require the
>>          establishment of a data channel DTLS session.  Upon receiving
>>          the Data Channel Keep Alive packet, the AC transmits its own
>>          Data Channel Keep Alive packet.
>>
>>    Run to DTLS Teardown (w):  This state transition occurs when an 
>> error
>>       has occured in the DTLS stack, causing the DTLS session to be
>>       torndown.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives one of the
>>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS session if 
>> it
>>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.  
>> The WTP also
>>          transitions to this state if the underlying reliable
>>          transport's RetransmitCount counter has reached the
>>          MaxRetransmit variable (see Section 4.7).
>>
>>       AC:  The AC enters this state when it receives one of the
>>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS session if 
>> it
>>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.  The AC
>>          transitions to this state if the underlying reliable
>>          transport's RetransmitCount counter has reached the
>>          MaxRetransmit variable (see Section 4.7).
>>
>>    Run to Run (x):  This is the normal state of operation.
>>
>>       WTP:  This is the WTP's normal state of operation.  
>> There are many
>>          events that result this state transition:
>>
>>          Configuration Update:  The WTP receives a Configuration 
>> Update
>>             Request message(see Section 8.4).  The WTP MUST respond 
>> with
>>             a Configuration Update Response message (see Section 8.5).
>>
>>          Change State Event:  The WTP receives a Change State Event
>>             Response message, or determines that it must initiate a
>>             Change State Event Request message, as a result of a 
>> failure
>>             or change in the state of a radio.
>>
>>          Echo Request:  The WTP sends an Echo Request message
>>             (Section 7.1) or receives the corresponding Echo Response
>>             message, (see Section 7.2) from the AC.
>>
>>          Clear Config Request:  The WTP receives a Clear Configuration
>>             Request message (see Section 8.8).  The WTP MUST reset its
>>             configuration back to manufacturer defaults.
>>
>>          WTP Event:  The WTP sends a WTP Event Request message,
>>             delivering information to the AC (see Section 9.4).  The 
>> WTP
>>             receives a WTP Event Response message from the AC (see
>>             Section 9.5).
>>
>>          Data Transfer:  The WTP sends a Data Transfer Request message
>>             to the AC (see Section 9.6).  The WTP receives a Data
>>             Transfer Response message from the AC (see Section 9.7).
>>
>>          Station Configuration Request:  The WTP receives a Station
>>             Configuration Request message (see Section 10.1), to which
>>             it MUST respond with a Station Configuration Response
>>             message (see Section 10.2).
>>
>>       AC:  This is the AC's normal state of operation:
>>
>>          Configuration Update:  The AC sends a Configuration Update
>>             Request message (see Section 8.4) to the WTP to update its
>>             configuration.  The AC receives a Configuration Update
>>             Response message (see Section 8.5) from the WTP.
>>
>>          Change State Event:  The AC receives a Change State Event
>>             Request message (see Section 8.6), to which it MUST 
>> respond
>>             with the Change State Event Response message (see
>>             Section 8.7).
>>
>>          Echo Request:  The AC receives an Echo Request message (see
>>             Section 7.1), to which it MUST respond with an Echo 
>> Response
>>             message(see Section 7.2).
>>
>>          Clear Config Response:  The AC receives a Clear Configuration
>>             Response message from the WTP (see Section 8.9).
>>
>>          WTP Event:  The AC receives a WTP Event Request message from
>>             the WTP (see Section 9.4) and MUST generate a 
>> corresponding
>>             WTP Event Response message (see Section 9.5).
>>
>>          Data Transfer:  The AC receives a Data Transfer Request 
>> message
>>             from the WTP (see Section 9.6) and MUST generate a
>>             corresponding Data Transfer Response message (see
>>             Section 9.7).
>>
>>          Station Configuration Request:  The AC sends a Station
>>             Configuration Request message (see Section 10.1) or 
>> receives
>>             the corresponding Station Configuration Response message
>>             (see Section 10.2) from the WTP.
>>
>>    Run to Reset (y):  This state transition is used when either the AC
>>       or WTP tear down the connection.  This may occur as part of 
>> normal
>>       operation, or due to error conditions.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Reset state when it receives a Reset
>>          Request message from the AC.
>>
>>       AC:  The AC enters the Reset state when it transmits a Reset
>>          Request message to the WTP.
>>
>>    Reset to DTLS Teardown (z):  This transition occurs when the CAPWAP
>>       reset is complete, to terminate the DTLS session.
>>
>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives a Reset
>>          Response message.  This causes the WTP to initiate the
>>          DTLSShutdown command (see Section 2.3.2.1).
>>
>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC transmits a Reset
>>          Response message.  The AC does not invoke the DTLSShutdown
>>          command (see Section 2.3.2.1).
>>
>>    DTLS Teardown to Idle (8):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>>       session has been shutdown.
>>
>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP has successfully
>>          cleaned up all resources associated with the control plane 
>> DTLS
>>          session.  The data plane DTLS session is also shutdown, and 
>> all
>>          resources freed, if a DTLS session was established for the 
>> data
>>          plane.  Any timers set for the current instance of the state
>>          machine are also cleared.
>>
>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>>
>>    DTLS Teardown to Sulking (9):  This transition occurs when repeated
>>       attempts to setup the DTLS connection have failed.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when the FailedDTLSSessionCount 
>> or
>>          the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount counter reaches the value of the
>>          MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section 4.8).  Upon
>>          entering this state, the WTP MUST start the SilentInterval
>>          timer.  While in the Sulking state, all received CAPWAP and
>>          DTLS protocol messages received MUST be ignored.
>>
>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>>
>>    DTLS Teardown to Dead (~):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>>       session has been shutdown.
>>
>>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
>>
>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC has successfully
>>          cleaned up all resources associated with the control plane 
>> DTLS
>>          session.  The data plane DTLS session is also shutdown, and 
>> all
>>          resources freed, if a DTLS session was established for the 
>> data
>>          plane.  Any timers set for the current instance of the state
>>          machine are also cleared.  The AC's Service thread is
>>          terminated.
>>
>> 12.3.  Discovery Attacks
>> [...]
>>    Some implementations may wish to pass information about clients who
>>    have passed the discovery phase to the DTLS layer, authorizing only
>>    those clients to initiate a DTLS handshake.  Note that the impact 
>> of
>>    this on mitigating denial of service attacks against the DTLS layer
>>    is minimal, because DTLS already uses client-side cookies to 
>> minimize
>>    processor consumption attacks.  As a result, implementations SHOULD
>>    NOT maintain state between the discovery and DTLS handshake phases 
>> of
>>    the CAPWAP protocol initialization.
>>
>> </text>
>>
>> PatC
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:17 AM
>> To: capwap
>> Subject: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking on AC prior to
> 
>> DTLSEstablishment
>>
>> I wanted to provide a follow-up based on the conversation during the 
>> meeting yesterday. The issue that is being raised in this issue is 
>> that the state machine doesn't really work well on the AC. There is 
>> text that states that the AC has a different "state context" per WTP, 
>> but right now this would require that the AC maintains state during 
>> the discovery, etc. However, we have all agreed that the AC should not
> 
>> have to do so.
>> So we agreed that we needed to provide more clarity on the state 
>> machine that allows for the AC to provide services such as responding 
>> to Discovery Requests, without explicitely maintaining per WTP state.
>>  
>> I am working on modifications to the state machine, and expect to have
> 
>> this sent to the list later today.
>>  
>> PatC
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<chair hat=off>

Expressing my opinion as an individual technical contributor...

It seems like there are two differences between Pat Calhoun's  
proposal to address Issue #30 and Scott Kelly's:

(1) In Pat's proposed changes, he changes both the state machine  
diagram and the text description of the state machine, while Scott  
proposes to only change the text.

(2) Pat's proposed technical changes to the specification are  
somewhat more extensive than Scott's.

Regarding (1), I generally prefer an approach that includes changing  
the state machine diagram and the text description, because I think  
it makes the changes clearer than just making changes to the text  
description.  While I realize that changing the state machine diagram  
results in changing more lines in the document,  I do not think that  
inherently represents a larger technical change (assuming the same  
changes are made in both cases), and I think the end result is clearer.

Regarding (2), I don't think I have enough understanding of the  
security issues involved to understand whether Scott's proposed  
changes are sufficient, or whether the full extent of Pat's changes  
are necessary.  Based on Charles CLancy's post, though, it looks like  
the set of changes that Pat has proposed would fully address Charles'  
issue, while Scott's proposed changes would not.

Given these two differences, I have a moderate preference for Pat's  
proposed changes.

Margaret

</chair>


On Dec 12, 2007, at 12:17 PM, Scott Kelly wrote:

> We've had a private discussion on this topic off-list, but have not  
> been
> able to come to agreement, so I'll make my comments here. I don't  
> think
> we should (or need to) introduce these dramatic changes to the  
> document
> just prior to last call.
>
> The "problem" we are trying to resolve resulted when someone added
> language saying the AC MAY maintain discovery state. This change was
> apparently introduced last January. There is no record of working  
> group
> or mailing list discussion -- the change just appeared in a document
> update.
>
> On Oct 12, Pat posted a comment saying the state machine language
> surrounding discovery state is inconsistent. I agree. It was made
> inconsistent by the introduction of discovery state to the AC.
>
> In the issue tracker, there is a comment from Charles which must have
> been copied from a private email, as I cannot find it in the list
> archives. Here is that comment:
>
> ----------------------------------------------
> It seems to me that to be in any state at all assumes state is being
> maintained.  Describing a transition from one state to another with
> behavior
> caveatted with "if state is being maintained" doesn't make any  
> sense to
> me.
> If we have no state, then we have no state transitions.
>
> IIRC, don't we allow connections that don't do discovery first (it's
> been a
> while, correct me if I'm wrong)?  In which case, DTLS on the AC should
> always
> be listening, and transition "f" can be simply a WTP transition.   
> The AC
>
> transition would be back to Idle rather than DTLS setup.  You could  
> run
> discovery as its own subgraph of the AC state machine.  If you  
> wanted to
> share
> state information between the two, you could have an API to do that.
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> I agree with what Charles says above.
>
> The changes Pat is proposing do not fix the problem - they actually
> introduce new problems and confusion. Since we have agreed that the AC
> SHOULD NOT maintain discovery state, the discovery-idle-sulking
> transitions make no sense in the context of the AC. However, fixing  
> this
> does not require separate state machines, or dramatic changes to the
> existing state machine.
>
> In draft-08, section 2.3, just below Figure 3, it says "The CAPWAP
> protocol state machine, depicted above, is used by both the AC and the
> WTP.  In cases where states are not shared (i.e. not implemented in  
> one
> or the other of the AC or WTP), this is explicitly called out in the
> transition descriptions below."
>
> This implies that we just need to make sure the state machine language
> around AC discovery processing is clear. We can do this by adopting
> three simple changes recommended in Pat's text below (with minor  
> edits):
>
> For Idle-to-Discovery it should say:
>
>       AC:  This state transition is executed by the AC
>          when a Discovery Request message is
>          received.  The AC SHOULD respond with a Discovery Response
>          message (see Section 5.2).  The AC SHOULD NOT maintain WTP
>          state at this point (see Section 12 for more information).
>
> For Discovery to Idle it should say:
>
>       AC:  This state transition is executed by the AC after  
> processing
>          a Discovery Request.
>
> For Discovery to Sulking it says:
>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>
>
> With these simple changes, the problem is solved.
>
> --Scott
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) [mailto:pcalhoun@cisco.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 3:28 PM
>> To: capwap
>> Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking
>> on AC prior toDTLSEstablishment
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I wanted to send the new state machine in order to get as many  
>> eyes on
>> this one as possible. I have done what I believe is a very thorough
>> review, but this is a complex state machine. I will also
>> include all of
>> the state machine text in order to make it simpler to review.
>> Note that
>> other than the teardown, no changes were made from the join/config
>> states on (meaning, only the lower part of the state machine
>> figure was
>> modified).
>>
>> Since there is significant text here, I want to provide a
>> little bit of
>> information on how this now works:
>> - The WTP behaves pretty much the same as before, meaning
>> that it uses a
>> single state context. When a connection attempt fails, the
>> state machine
>> goes back to the Idle state, unless some counters have hit a
>> threshold,
>> in which case the state transitions to the Sulking state. As
>> before the
>> WTP can do the Discovery phase, in which case either state
>> (5) or (c) is
>> used.
>> - The AC now defines two separate threads; Listener and Service. The
>> Listener is the main thread that handles the discovery
>> messages. Once a
>> connection request is received, it spawns a Service thread to
>> deal with
>> the WTP. You will notice that the new state machine uses numerals  
>> when
>> it applies either only to the WTP, or to the Listener thread.
>> All state
>> transitions that use alphabetic, or symbols, is for the Service  
>> thread
>> or the WTP. The biggest difference in how the state machines work is
>> that on the AC, when a connection is being established, and fails,  
>> the
>> Service thread's state moves back to the DTLS Setup state, not Idle.
>> When the error thresholds are hit, the state moves to Sulking - the
>> quiet period. You will also notice a new Dead state, which is
>> ONLY valid
>> for the Service thread, which is where the thread is terminated, and
>> resources are freed.
>>
>> Comments welcomed,
>>
>> PatC
>>
>>
>> <text>
>> 2.3.  CAPWAP State Machine Definition
>>
>>    The following state diagram represents the lifecycle of a WTP-AC
>>    session.  Use of DTLS by the CAPWAP protocol results in the
>>    juxtaposition of two nominally separate yet tightly bound state
>>    machines.  The DTLS and CAPWAP state machines are coupled
>> through an
>>    API consisting of commands (see Section 2.3.2.1) and notifications
>>    (see Section 2.3.2.2).  Certain transitions in the DTLS
>> state machine
>>    are triggered by commands from the CAPWAP state machine, while
>>    certain transitions in the CAPWAP state machine are triggered by
>>    notifications from the DTLS state machine.
>>
>>                             /-------------------------------------\
>>                             |          /-------------------------\|
>>                             |         w|                         ||
>>                             |    x+----------+ y +------------+  ||
>>                             |     |   Run    |-->|   Reset    |-\||
>>                             |     +----------+   +------------+ |||
>>                            u|  V      ^           ^     ^      z|||
>>                 +------------+--------/           |     |       |||
>>                 | Data Check |             /-------/    |       |||
>>                 +------------+<-------\   |             |       |||
>>                                       |   |             |       |||
>>                        /------------------+--------\    |       |||
>>                       m|             t|  o|    q   v   r|       |||
>>                +--------+     +-----------+     +--------------+|||
>>                |  Join  |---->| Configure |     |  Image Data  ||||
>>                +--------+  n  +-----------+     +--------------+|||
>>                 ^   |l                 p|                    s| |||
>>                 |   |                   \-------------------\ | |||
>>                 |   \--------------------------------------\| | |||
>>                 \------------------------\                 || | |||
>>          /--------------<----------------+---------------\ || | |||
>>          | /------------<----------------+-------------\ | || | |||
>>          | |                      i      |k           8| | vv v vvv
>>          | |  d+----------------+<--+--------------+   +-----------+
>>        /-|-|---|   DTLS Setup   |   | DTLS Connect |-->|  DTLS TD  |
>>        | | |   +----------------+e  +--------------+ 7 +-----------+
>>        | | |   6|   ^      ^  |f         ^       j|      ^  |~
>>        v v v    |   |      |  |          |        |      |  |
>>        | | |    |   |      |  \-------\  |   /----+------/  |
>>        | | |    |   |      |          |  |   |    \---\     |
>>        | | |    v  c|  1   |5    2    v  |g  |h       v     v
>>        | | \->+------+-->+------+   +-----------+    +--------+
>>        | |    | Idle |   | Disc |   | Authorize |    |  Dead  |
>>        | |    +------+<--+------+   +-----------+    +--------+
>>        | |        ^    0      |3                         ^
>>        | |        |           |                          |b
>>        | |9       |4          |                          |
>>        | \->+---------+<------/                          |
>>        \--->| Sulking |----------------------------------/
>>             +---------+
>>                       a
>>
>>                  Figure 3: CAPWAP Integrated State Machine
>>
>>    The CAPWAP protocol state machine, depicted above, is used by both
>>    the AC and the WTP.  In cases where states are not shared (i.e.  
>> not
>>    implemented in one or the other of the AC or WTP), this is
>> explicitly
>>    called out in the transition descriptions below.  For every state
>>
>>    defined, only certain messages are permitted to be sent
>> and received.
>>    The CAPWAP control messages definitions specify the
>> state(s) in which
>>    each message is valid.
>>
>>    Since the WTP only communicates with a single AC, it only has a
>>    single instance of the CAPWAP state machine.  The state
>> machine works
>>    differently on the AC since it communicates with many WTPs.   
>> The AC
>>    uses the concept of two threads.  Note that the term
>> thread used here
>>    does not necessarily imply that implementers must use
>> threads, but it
>>    is one possible way of implementing the AC's state machine.
>>
>>    Listener Thread -   The AC's Listener thread handles the shared
>>       services, which includes receiving and responding to Discovery
>>       Requests.  The Listener thread handles the common
>> tasks, up to the
>>       DTLS Setup state.  The state machine transitions in the above
>>       figure are represented by numerals.
>>
>>    Service Thread -   The AC's Service thread handles the per WTP
>>       states, and one such thread exists per WTP connection.  This
>>       thread starts during the DTLS Setup state, which is when the
>>       DTLSListen command is invoked.  When created, the Service  
>> thread
>>       inherits a copy of the state machine context from the Listener
>>       thread.  When communication with the WTP is complete,
>> the Service
>>       thread is terminated.  The state machine transitions in
>> the above
>>       figure are represented by alphabetic characters (including
>>       symbols).
>>
>> 2.3.1.  CAPWAP Protocol State Transitions
>>
>>    This section describes the various state transitions, and
>> the events
>>    that cause them.  This section does not discuss
>> interactions between
>>    DTLS- and CAPWAP-specific states.  Those interactions, and DTLS-
>>    specific states and transitions, are discussed in Section 2.3.2.
>>
>>    Idle to Discovery (1):  This transition occurs once device
>>       initialization is complete.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Discovery state prior to
>> transmitting the
>>          first Discovery Request message (see Section 5.1).  Upon
>>          entering this state, the WTP sets the DiscoveryInterval  
>> timer
>>          (see Section 4.7).  The WTP resets the DiscoveryCount  
>> counter
>>          to zero (0) (see Section 4.8).  The WTP also clears all
>>          information from ACs it may have received during a previous
>>          Discovery phase.
>>
>>       AC:  This state transition is executed by the AC's Listener
>>          thread, and occurs when a Discovery Request message is
>>          received.  The AC SHOULD respond with a Discovery Response
>>          message (see Section 5.2).  The AC SHOULD NOT maintain WTP
>>          state at this point (see Section 12 for more information).
>>
>>    Discovery to Discovery (2):  In the Discovery state, the WTP
>>       determines which AC to connect to.
>>
>>       WTP:  This transition occurs when the DiscoveryInterval timer
>>          expires.  If the WTP is configured with a list of ACs, it
>>          transmits a Discovery Request message to every AC
>> from which it
>>          has not received a Discovery Response message.  For every
>>          transition to this event, the WTP increments the
>> DiscoveryCount
>>          counter.  See Section 5.1 for more information on how the  
>> WTP
>>          knows the ACs to which it should transmit the
>> Discovery Request
>>          messages.  The WTP restarts the DiscoveryInterval timer
>>          whenever it transmits Discovery Request messages.
>>
>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>>
>>    Discovery to Idle (0):  This transition occurs on the AC's  
>> Listener
>>       thread when the Discovery processing is complete.
>>
>>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
>>
>>       AC:  This state transition is executed by the AC's
>> Listener thread
>>          when it has transmitted the Discovery Response, in
>> response to
>>          a Discovery Request.
>>
>>    Discovery to Sulking (3):  This transition occurs on a WTP when AC
>>       Discovery fails.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when the DiscoveryInterval  
>> timer
>>          expires and the DiscoveryCount variable is equal to the
>>          MaxDiscoveries variable (see Section 4.8).  Upon
>> entering this
>>          state, the WTP MUST start the SilentInterval timer.   
>> While in
>>          the Sulking state, all received CAPWAP protocol messages
>>          received MUST be ignored.
>>
>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>>
>>    Sulking to Idle (4):  This transition occurs on a WTP when it must
>>       restart the discovery phase.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when the SilentInterval
>> timer (see
>>          Section 4.7) expires.  The FailedDTLSSessionCount,
>>          DiscoveryCount and FailedDTLSAuthFailCount counters are  
>> reset
>>          to zero.
>>
>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>>
>>    Sulking to Sulking (a):  The Sulking state provides the silent
>>       period, minimizing the possibility for Denial of Service (DoS)
>>       attacks.
>>
>>       WTP:  All packets received from the AC while in the
>> sulking state
>>          are ignored.
>>
>>       AC:  All packets receive from the WTP on the AC's
>> Service thread,
>>          while in the sulking state, are ignored.
>>
>>    Sulking to Dead (b):  This transition occurs on the AC
>> when the quiet
>>       period expires.
>>
>>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
>>
>>       AC:  The AC enters this state when the SilentInterval timer  
>> (see
>>          Section 4.7) expires.  The AC must clean up all resources
>>          associated with the control plane DTLS session.  The
>> data plane
>>          DTLS session is also shutdown, and all resources freed, if a
>>          DTLS session was established for the data plane.  Any timers
>>          set for the current instance of the state machine are also
>>          cleared.  The AC's Service thread is terminated.
>>
>>    Idle to DTLS Setup (c):  This transition occurs to
>> establish a secure
>>       DTLS session with the peer.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP initiates this transition by invoking the
>> DTLSStart
>>          command, which starts the DTLS session establishment with  
>> the
>>          chosen AC.  When the discovery phase is bypassed, it
>> is assumed
>>          the WTP has locally configured ACs.
>>
>>       AC:  The AC initiates this transition by invoking the  
>> DTLSListen
>>          command (see Section 2.3.2.1), which informs the DTLS stack
>>          that it is willing to listen for an incoming
>> session.  The AC's
>>          Listener thread forks an instance of the Service
>> thread, along
>>          with a copy of the state context.  If the AC had
>> maintained WTP
>>          state information during the Discovery exchange, or through
>>          some other means that may include static
>> configuration of WTPs,
>>          the AC MAY provide optional qualifiers in the DTLSListen
>>          command to only accept session requests a specific WTP.   
>> Note
>>          that the AC SHOULD NOT maintain state information based  
>> on an
>>          unsecured Discovery Request message, as this can lead to a
>>          Denial of Service attack (see Section 12).  In such
>> instances,
>>          the AC MUST ensure that this state information is
>> freed after a
>>          period, which is implementation specific.
>>
>>    Discovery to DTLS Setup (5):  This transition occurs to  
>> establish a
>>       secure DTLS session with the peer.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP initiates this transition by invoking the
>> DTLSStart
>>          command (see Section 2.3.2.1), which starts the DTLS session
>>          establishment with the chosen AC.  The decision of
>> which AC to
>>          connect to is the result of the discovery phase, which is
>>          described in Section 3.3.
>>
>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>>
>>    DTLS Setup to Idle (6):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>>       connection setup has failed.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP initiates this state transition when it  
>> receives a
>>          DTLSEstablishFail notification from DTLS (see
>> Section 2.3.2.2),
>>          and the FailedDTLSSessionCount or the  
>> FailedDTLSAuthFailCount
>>          counter have not reached the value of the
>>          MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section 4.8).  This
>>          error notification aborts the secure DTLS session
>>          establishment.  When this notification is received, the
>>          FailedDTLSSessionCount counter is incremented.
>>
>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>>
>>    DTLS Setup to Sulking (d):  This transition occurs when repeated
>>       attempts to setup the DTLS connection have failed.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when the
>> FailedDTLSSessionCount or
>>          the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount counter reaches the value of the
>>          MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section 4.8).  Upon
>>          entering this state, the WTP MUST start the SilentInterval
>>          timer.  While in the Sulking state, all received CAPWAP and
>>          DTLS protocol messages received MUST be ignored.
>>
>>       AC:  The AC enters this state with the specific WTP when the
>>          FailedDTLSSessionCount or the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount  
>> counter
>>          reaches MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section  
>> 4.8).
>>          Upon entering this state, the AC's Service thread MUST start
>>          the SilentInterval timer, and ignore all CAPWAP and DTLS
>>          protocol messages received from the WTP.  The AC immediately
>>          transitions the state to Idle.
>>
>>    DTLS Setup to DTLS Setup (e):  This transition occurs when the  
>> DTLS
>>       Session failed to be established.
>>
>>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
>>
>>       AC:  The AC initiates this state transition by the
>> Service thread
>>          when it receives a DTLSEstablishFail notification from DTLS
>>          (see Section 2.3.2.2).  This error notification aborts the
>>          secure DTLS session establishment.  When this  
>> notification is
>>          received, the FailedDTLSSessionCount counter is incremented.
>>
>>    DTLS Setup to Authorize (f):  This transition occurs when
>> an incoming
>>       DTLS session is being established, and the DTLS stack needs
>>       authorization to proceed with the session establishment.
>>
>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives the
>>          DTLSPeerAuthorize notification (see Section 2.3.2.2).  Upon
>>          entering this state, the WTP performs an authorization check
>>          against the AC credentials.  See Section 2.4.4 for more
>>          information on AC authorization.
>>
>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the
>>          DTLSPeerAuthorize notification (see Section 2.3.2.2).  Upon
>>          entering this state, the AC performs an authorization check
>>          against the WTP credentials.  See Section 2.4.4 for more
>>          information on WTP authorization.
>>
>>    Authorize to DTLS Connect (g):  This transition occurs to
>> notify the
>>       DTLS stack that the session should be established.
>>
>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP has  
>> successfully
>>          authorized the AC's credentials (see Section 2.4.4).   
>> This is
>>          done by invoking the DTLSAccept DTLS command (see
>>          Section 2.3.2.1).
>>
>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC has successfully
>>          authorized the WTP's credentials (see Section
>> 2.4.4).  This is
>>          done by invoking the DTLSAccept DTLS command (see
>>          Section 2.3.2.1).
>>
>>    Authorize to DTLS Teardown (h):  This transition occurs to
>> notify the
>>       DTLS stack that the session should be aborted.
>>
>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP was unable to
>>          authorize the AC, using the AC credentials.  The WTP then
>>          aborts the DTLS session by invoking the DTLSAbortSession
>>          command (see Section 2.3.2.1).
>>
>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC was unable to
>>          authorize the WTP, using the WTP credentials.  The AC then
>>          aborts the DTLS session by invoking the DTLSAbortSession
>>          command (see Section 2.3.2.1).
>>
>>    DTLS Connect to DTLS Teardown (7):  This transition occurs when  
>> the
>>       DTLS Session failed to be established.
>>
>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP
>> receives either a
>>          DTLSAborted or DTLSAuthenticateFail notification (see
>>          Section 2.3.2.2), indicating that the DTLS session was not
>>          successfully established.  When this transition occurs  
>> due to
>>          the DTLSAuthenticateFail notification, the
>>          FailedDTLSAuthFailCount is incremented, otherwise the
>>          FailedDTLSSessionCount counter is incremented.
>>
>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>>
>>    DTLS Connect to DTLS Setup (i):  This transition occurs
>> when the DTLS
>>       Session failed to be established.
>>
>>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
>>
>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives either a
>>          DTLSAborted or DTLSAuthenticateFail notification (see
>>          Section 2.3.2.2), indicating that the DTLS session was not
>>          successfully established, and both of the
>>          FailedDTLSAuthFailCount and FailedDTLSSessionCount counters
>>          have not reached the value of the MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry
>>          variable (see Section 4.8).
>>
>>    DTLS Connect to Dead (j):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>>       Session failed to be established.
>>
>>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
>>
>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives either a
>>          DTLSAborted or DTLSAuthenticateFail notification (see
>>          Section 2.3.2.2), indicating that the DTLS session was not
>>          successfully established, and either the
>>          FailedDTLSAuthFailCount and FailedDTLSSessionCount counters
>>          have reached the value of the MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry
>>          variable (see Section 4.8).
>>
>>    DTLS Connect to Join (k):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>>       Session is successfully established.
>>
>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives the
>>          DTLSEstablished notification (see Section 2.3.2.2),
>> indicating
>>          that the DTLS session was successfully established.
>> When this
>>          notification is received, the FailedDTLSSessionCount
>> counter is
>>          set to zero.
>>
>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the
>>          DTLSEstablished notification (see Section 2.3.2.2),
>> indicating
>>          that the DTLS session was successfully established.
>> When this
>>          notification is received, the FailedDTLSSessionCount
>> counter is
>>          set to zero, and the WaitJoin timer is started (see
>>          Section 4.7).
>>
>>    Join to DTLS Teardown (l):  This transition occurs when the join
>>       process failed.
>>
>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives a Join
>>          Response message with a Result Code message element
>> containing
>>          an error, if the Image Identifier provided by the AC in the
>>          Join Response message differs from the WTP's
>> currently running
>>          firmware version and the WTP has the requested image in its
>>          non-volatile memory, or if the WaitDTLS timer expires.  This
>>          causes the WTP to initiate the DTLSShutdown command (see
>>          Section 2.3.2.1).  This transition also occurs if the WTP
>>          receives one of the following DTLS notifications:
>> DTLSAborted,
>>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect.
>>
>>       AC:  This state transition occurs either if the WaitJoin timer
>>          expires or if the AC transmits a Join Response message  
>> with a
>>          Result Code message element containing an error.  This  
>> causes
>>          the AC to initiate the DTLSShutdown command (see
>>          Section 2.3.2.1).  This transition also occurs if the AC
>>          receives one of the following DTLS notifications:
>> DTLSAborted,
>>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect.
>>
>>    Join to Image Data (m):  This state transition is used by
>> the WTP and
>>       the AC to download executable firmware.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Image Data state when it receives a
>>          successful Join Response message and determines and the
>>          included Image Identifier message element is not the same as
>>          its currently running image.  The WTP also detects that the
>>          requested image version is not currently available
>> in the WTP's
>>          non-volatile storage (see Section 9.1 for a full
>> description of
>>          the firmware download process).  The WTP initializes the
>>          EchoInterval timer (see Section 4.7), and transmits the  
>> Image
>>          Data Request message (see Section 9.1.1) requesting the  
>> start
>>          of the firmware download.
>>
>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the  
>> Image
>>          Data Request message from the WTP.  The AC MUST transmit an
>>          Image Data Response message (see Section 9.1.2) to the WTP,
>>          which includes a portion of the firmware.  The AC MUST start
>>          the ImageDataStartTimer timer (see Section 4.7).
>>
>>    Join to Configure (n):  This state transition is used by
>> the WTP and
>>       the AC to exchange configuration information.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Configure state when it receives a
>>          successful Join Response, and determines that the included
>>          Image Identifier message element is the same as its  
>> currently
>>          running image.  The WTP transmits the Configuration Status
>>          message (see Section 8.2) to the AC with message elements
>>          describing its current configuration.  The WTP also
>> starts the
>>          ResponseTimeout timer (see Section 4.7).
>>
>>       AC:  This state transition occurs immediately after the AC
>>          transmits the Join Response message to the WTP.  If the AC
>>          receives the Configuration Status message from the
>> WTP, the AC
>>          MUST transmit a Configuration Status Response message (see
>>          Section 8.3) to the WTP, and MAY include specific message
>>          elements to override the WTP's configuration.  The AC also
>>          starts the ChangeStatePendingTimer timer (see Section 4.7).
>>
>>    Configure to Reset (o):  This state transition is used to reset  
>> the
>>       connection either due to an error during the
>> configuration phase,
>>       or when the WTP determines it needs to reset in order
>> for the new
>>       configuration to take effect.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Reset state when it receives a
>>          Configuration Status Response indicating an error or when it
>>          determines that a reset of the WTP is required, due to the
>>          characteristics of a new configuration.
>>
>>       AC:  The AC transitions to the Reset state when it receives a
>>          Change State Event message from the WTP that
>> contains an error
>>          for which AC policy does not permit the WTP to
>> provide service.
>>          This state transition also occurs when the AC
>>          ChangeStatePendingTimer timer expires.
>>
>>    Configure to DTLS Teardown (p):  This transition occurs when the
>>       configuration process aborts due to a DTLS error.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives one of the
>>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS
>> session if it
>>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.
>>
>>       AC:  The AC enters this state when it receives one of the
>>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS
>> session if it
>>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.
>>
>>    Image Data to Image Data (q):  The Image Data state is used by the
>>       WTP and the AC during the firmware download phase.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Image Data state when it receives an
>>          Image Data Response message indicating that the AC has more
>>          data to send.
>>
>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the  
>> Image
>>          Data Request message from the WTP while already in the Image
>>          Data state.  The AC resets the ImageDataStartTimer timer.
>>
>>    Image Data to Reset (r):  This state transition is used to
>> reset the
>>       DTLS connection prior to restarting the WTP after an image
>>       download.
>>
>>       WTP:  When an image download completes, the WTP enters the  
>> Reset
>>          state.  The WTP MAY also transition to this state upon
>>          receiving an Image Data Response message from the AC (see
>>          Section 9.1.2) indicating a failure.
>>
>>       AC:  The AC enters the Reset state when an error occurs
>> during the
>>          image download process or if the ImageDataStartTimer timer
>>          expires.
>>
>>    Image Data to DTLS Teardown (s):  This transition occurs when the
>>       firmware download process aborts due to a DTLS error.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives one of the
>>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS
>> session if it
>>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.
>>
>>       AC:  The AC enters this state when it receives one of the
>>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS
>> session if it
>>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.
>>
>>    Configure to Data Check (t):  This state transition occurs when  
>> the
>>       WTP and AC confirm the configuration.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives a successful
>>          Configuration Status Response message from the AC.  The WTP
>>          initializes the EchoInterval timer (see Section 4.7), and
>>          transmits the Change State Event Request message (see
>>          Section 8.6).
>>
>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives
>> the Change
>>          State Event Request message (see Section 8.6) from the WTP.
>>          The AC responds with a Change State Event Response
>> message (see
>>          Section 8.7).  The AC MUST start the DataCheckTimer
>> timer (see
>>          Section 4.7).
>>
>>    Data Check to DTLS Teardown (u):  This transition occurs
>> when the WTP
>>       does not complete the Data Check exchange.
>>
>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs if the WTP does not
>> receive the
>>          Change State Event Response before a CAPWAP transmission
>>          timeout occurs.
>>
>>       AC:  The AC enters this state when the DataCheckTimer timer
>>          expires (see Section 4.7).
>>
>>    Data Check to Run (V):  This state transition occurs when
>> the linkage
>>       between the control and data channels has occured,
>> causing the WTP
>>       and AC to enter their normal state of operation.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives a successful
>>          Change State Event Response message from the AC.  The WTP
>>          initiates the data channel, which MAY require the
>> establishment
>>          of a DTLS session, starts the DataChannelKeepAlive timer  
>> (see
>>          Section 4.7) and transmits a Data Channel Keep Alive packet
>>          (see Section 4.4.1).  The WTP then starts the
>>          DataChannelDeadInterval timer (see Section 4.7).
>>
>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the Data
>>          Channel Keep Alive packet (see Section 4.4.1), with a  
>> Session
>>          ID message element matching that included by the WTP in the
>>          Join Request message.  The AC disables the DataCheckTimer
>>          timer.  Note that if AC policy is to require the data  
>> channel
>>          to be encrypted, this process would also require the
>>          establishment of a data channel DTLS session.  Upon  
>> receiving
>>          the Data Channel Keep Alive packet, the AC transmits its own
>>          Data Channel Keep Alive packet.
>>
>>    Run to DTLS Teardown (w):  This state transition occurs
>> when an error
>>       has occured in the DTLS stack, causing the DTLS session to be
>>       torndown.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives one of the
>>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS
>> session if it
>>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.
>> The WTP also
>>          transitions to this state if the underlying reliable
>>          transport's RetransmitCount counter has reached the
>>          MaxRetransmit variable (see Section 4.7).
>>
>>       AC:  The AC enters this state when it receives one of the
>>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS
>> session if it
>>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.  The AC
>>          transitions to this state if the underlying reliable
>>          transport's RetransmitCount counter has reached the
>>          MaxRetransmit variable (see Section 4.7).
>>
>>    Run to Run (x):  This is the normal state of operation.
>>
>>       WTP:  This is the WTP's normal state of operation.
>> There are many
>>          events that result this state transition:
>>
>>          Configuration Update:  The WTP receives a
>> Configuration Update
>>             Request message(see Section 8.4).  The WTP MUST
>> respond with
>>             a Configuration Update Response message (see Section  
>> 8.5).
>>
>>          Change State Event:  The WTP receives a Change State Event
>>             Response message, or determines that it must initiate a
>>             Change State Event Request message, as a result
>> of a failure
>>             or change in the state of a radio.
>>
>>          Echo Request:  The WTP sends an Echo Request message
>>             (Section 7.1) or receives the corresponding Echo Response
>>             message, (see Section 7.2) from the AC.
>>
>>          Clear Config Request:  The WTP receives a Clear  
>> Configuration
>>             Request message (see Section 8.8).  The WTP MUST reset  
>> its
>>             configuration back to manufacturer defaults.
>>
>>          WTP Event:  The WTP sends a WTP Event Request message,
>>             delivering information to the AC (see Section
>> 9.4).  The WTP
>>             receives a WTP Event Response message from the AC (see
>>             Section 9.5).
>>
>>          Data Transfer:  The WTP sends a Data Transfer Request  
>> message
>>             to the AC (see Section 9.6).  The WTP receives a Data
>>             Transfer Response message from the AC (see Section 9.7).
>>
>>          Station Configuration Request:  The WTP receives a Station
>>             Configuration Request message (see Section 10.1), to  
>> which
>>             it MUST respond with a Station Configuration Response
>>             message (see Section 10.2).
>>
>>       AC:  This is the AC's normal state of operation:
>>
>>          Configuration Update:  The AC sends a Configuration Update
>>             Request message (see Section 8.4) to the WTP to update  
>> its
>>             configuration.  The AC receives a Configuration Update
>>             Response message (see Section 8.5) from the WTP.
>>
>>          Change State Event:  The AC receives a Change State Event
>>             Request message (see Section 8.6), to which it
>> MUST respond
>>             with the Change State Event Response message (see
>>             Section 8.7).
>>
>>          Echo Request:  The AC receives an Echo Request message (see
>>             Section 7.1), to which it MUST respond with an
>> Echo Response
>>             message(see Section 7.2).
>>
>>          Clear Config Response:  The AC receives a Clear  
>> Configuration
>>             Response message from the WTP (see Section 8.9).
>>
>>          WTP Event:  The AC receives a WTP Event Request message from
>>             the WTP (see Section 9.4) and MUST generate a
>> corresponding
>>             WTP Event Response message (see Section 9.5).
>>
>>          Data Transfer:  The AC receives a Data Transfer
>> Request message
>>             from the WTP (see Section 9.6) and MUST generate a
>>             corresponding Data Transfer Response message (see
>>             Section 9.7).
>>
>>          Station Configuration Request:  The AC sends a Station
>>             Configuration Request message (see Section 10.1)
>> or receives
>>             the corresponding Station Configuration Response message
>>             (see Section 10.2) from the WTP.
>>
>>    Run to Reset (y):  This state transition is used when either  
>> the AC
>>       or WTP tear down the connection.  This may occur as
>> part of normal
>>       operation, or due to error conditions.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Reset state when it receives a Reset
>>          Request message from the AC.
>>
>>       AC:  The AC enters the Reset state when it transmits a Reset
>>          Request message to the WTP.
>>
>>    Reset to DTLS Teardown (z):  This transition occurs when the  
>> CAPWAP
>>       reset is complete, to terminate the DTLS session.
>>
>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives a  
>> Reset
>>          Response message.  This causes the WTP to initiate the
>>          DTLSShutdown command (see Section 2.3.2.1).
>>
>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC transmits a Reset
>>          Response message.  The AC does not invoke the DTLSShutdown
>>          command (see Section 2.3.2.1).
>>
>>    DTLS Teardown to Idle (8):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>>       session has been shutdown.
>>
>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP has  
>> successfully
>>          cleaned up all resources associated with the control
>> plane DTLS
>>          session.  The data plane DTLS session is also
>> shutdown, and all
>>          resources freed, if a DTLS session was established
>> for the data
>>          plane.  Any timers set for the current instance of the state
>>          machine are also cleared.
>>
>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>>
>>    DTLS Teardown to Sulking (9):  This transition occurs when  
>> repeated
>>       attempts to setup the DTLS connection have failed.
>>
>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when the
>> FailedDTLSSessionCount or
>>          the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount counter reaches the value of the
>>          MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section 4.8).  Upon
>>          entering this state, the WTP MUST start the SilentInterval
>>          timer.  While in the Sulking state, all received CAPWAP and
>>          DTLS protocol messages received MUST be ignored.
>>
>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>>
>>    DTLS Teardown to Dead (~):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>>       session has been shutdown.
>>
>>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
>>
>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC has successfully
>>          cleaned up all resources associated with the control
>> plane DTLS
>>          session.  The data plane DTLS session is also
>> shutdown, and all
>>          resources freed, if a DTLS session was established
>> for the data
>>          plane.  Any timers set for the current instance of the state
>>          machine are also cleared.  The AC's Service thread is
>>          terminated.
>>
>> 12.3.  Discovery Attacks
>> [...]
>>    Some implementations may wish to pass information about clients  
>> who
>>    have passed the discovery phase to the DTLS layer, authorizing  
>> only
>>    those clients to initiate a DTLS handshake.  Note that the
>> impact of
>>    this on mitigating denial of service attacks against the DTLS  
>> layer
>>    is minimal, because DTLS already uses client-side cookies
>> to minimize
>>    processor consumption attacks.  As a result, implementations  
>> SHOULD
>>    NOT maintain state between the discovery and DTLS
>> handshake phases of
>>    the CAPWAP protocol initialization.
>>
>> </text>
>>
>> PatC
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:17 AM
>> To: capwap
>> Subject: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking on AC  
>> prior to
>> DTLSEstablishment
>>
>> I wanted to provide a follow-up based on the conversation during the
>> meeting yesterday. The issue that is being raised in this
>> issue is that
>> the state machine doesn't really work well on the AC. There
>> is text that
>> states that the AC has a different "state context" per WTP, but right
>> now this would require that the AC maintains state during the
>> discovery,
>> etc. However, we have all agreed that the AC should not have to do  
>> so.
>> So we agreed that we needed to provide more clarity on the
>> state machine
>> that allows for the AC to provide services such as responding to
>> Discovery Requests, without explicitely maintaining per WTP state.
>>
>> I am working on modifications to the state machine, and expect to  
>> have
>> this sent to the list later today.
>>
>> PatC
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>From: Charles Clancy <clancy@cs.umd.edu>
>Sent: Dec 15, 2007 2:52 PM
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>Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking on AC	prior	toDTLSEstablishment
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>I'm trying to compare Pat and Scott's suggested changes.  Scott is 
>suggesting removing (f) and adding a new transition from discovery to 
>idle (at least those would be necessary for your proposed text to make 
>sense).  Pat is also suggesting doing that, but is also suggesting some 
>additional changes that deal with further separation of a logical global 
>state machine in the AC and per-WTP state machines (by adding the "Dead" 
>state and a rearranging a few more state transitions).

I think I confused things by suggesting idle-discovery-idle transitions for the AC. I originally suggested (in an offline email to you guys last week) that the discovery-idle-sulk loop does not exist for the AC, and you said the same thing in your email that Pat cut/pasted to the issue tracker. That is what I should have said in this thread as well. 

If one really wishes to show a discovery "state" for the AC (which does not make sense, since the AC is stateless with respect to discovery), then a simple loop from discovery to discovery is all that is required to reflect the "transition" that occurs when the AC receives a discovery request, sends a response, and goes back to listening. That is, there is no idle state, and no idle<->discovery transitions.

>I think there are problems in the state machine if we only patch the 
>idle/discovery transitions, as suggested by Scott.  In particular, 
>there's no way to throttle failed DTLS connections when no discovery is 
>performed (the only error exit from DTLS Setup is to Idle -- we need a 
>way to get from DTLS Setup to sulking to prevent repeated crypto 
>failures from causing Idle->DTLSSetup->Idle loops).
>
>I'm not seeing Scott's issues with the new state machine (i.e. the "new 
>problems and confusion").  The discovery-idle-sulking changes seem 
>logically identical between the two proposals.  If there are text 
>issues, I think those can be sorted out.
>
>I think Scott's suggestions could work, but would need some additional 
>transitions (i.e. DTLS Setup to Sulking for the WTP, among others) to 
>make everything work right.

One of us is missing something - let me know if it's me. My understanding is that issue 30 refers to the AC only, but you are talking about the WTP here. I made no suggestions regarding the WTP, and as far as I can tell, neither did Pat. 

Sulking, as currently defined, should *never* occur on the AC - it creates an easy opportunity for unauthenticated, low cost DoS attacks of measurable duration (due to the sulking period). This makes it really easy to send "pulses" every (sulk_period - n seconds) which can take and keep legitimate WTPs offline. It makes no sense to design this flaw into the protocol. If implementations want to deal with this at the AC (other than sending an administrative alert), rate limiting with random packet drops is far more sensible, and mitigates any effect on legitimate WTPs.

>Whether Pat's changes are too drastic -- I guess that's for the WG to 
>decide.  I do think Pat has a complete set of changes that solve all the 
>issues raised in issue 30.

The need for discovery transitions, a "dead state", etc. derive from a red herring, because discovery is stateless for the AC. I'm really surprised you helped Pat design these state machine changes, after saying pretty much the same things I say above in your response to his issuer tracker post. Was there some compelling argument that changed your mind? If so, please share it - I am not intransigent in my position, but from what I can see, what you guys are proposing makes no sense, and only serves to make the state machine in the document conform to an implementation which maintains discovery state.


--Scott


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>t. charles clancy, ph.d.                 eng.umd.edu/~tcc
>electrical & computer engineering, university of maryland
>
>Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) wrote:
>> The reason why I like the new state machine is that it is very clear on
>> how the AC deals with the fact that it keeps multiple copies of state
>> machine context. The previous version really didn't make that clear at
>> all. As an implementer, I know that I just have to follow the
>> guidelines, which clearly state when a copy is made, and managed
>> independently, and when it is deleted.
>> 
>> I recognize this provides some implementation guidance, and some folks
>> don't like that. But it certainly is clear.
>> 
>> If the issue has to do with the Sulking state, then we can address that.
>> I would, however, be interested in Charles' take on that issue.
>> 
>> PatC 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Scott Kelly [mailto:skelly@arubanetworks.com] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 9:17 AM
>> To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou); capwap
>> Subject: RE: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking on AC prior
>> toDTLSEstablishment
>> 
>> We've had a private discussion on this topic off-list, but have not been
>> able to come to agreement, so I'll make my comments here. I don't think
>> we should (or need to) introduce these dramatic changes to the document
>> just prior to last call.
>> 
>> The "problem" we are trying to resolve resulted when someone added
>> language saying the AC MAY maintain discovery state. This change was
>> apparently introduced last January. There is no record of working group
>> or mailing list discussion -- the change just appeared in a document
>> update. 
>> 
>> On Oct 12, Pat posted a comment saying the state machine language
>> surrounding discovery state is inconsistent. I agree. It was made
>> inconsistent by the introduction of discovery state to the AC.
>> 
>> In the issue tracker, there is a comment from Charles which must have
>> been copied from a private email, as I cannot find it in the list
>> archives. Here is that comment:
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------
>> It seems to me that to be in any state at all assumes state is being
>> maintained.  Describing a transition from one state to another with
>> behavior caveatted with "if state is being maintained" doesn't make any
>> sense to me.  
>> If we have no state, then we have no state transitions.
>> 
>> IIRC, don't we allow connections that don't do discovery first (it's
>> been a while, correct me if I'm wrong)?  In which case, DTLS on the AC
>> should always be listening, and transition "f" can be simply a WTP
>> transition.  The AC
>> 
>> transition would be back to Idle rather than DTLS setup.  You could run
>> discovery as its own subgraph of the AC state machine.  If you wanted to
>> share state information between the two, you could have an API to do
>> that.
>> ------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> I agree with what Charles says above.
>> 
>> The changes Pat is proposing do not fix the problem - they actually
>> introduce new problems and confusion. Since we have agreed that the AC
>> SHOULD NOT maintain discovery state, the discovery-idle-sulking
>> transitions make no sense in the context of the AC. However, fixing this
>> does not require separate state machines, or dramatic changes to the
>> existing state machine.
>> 
>> In draft-08, section 2.3, just below Figure 3, it says "The CAPWAP
>> protocol state machine, depicted above, is used by both the AC and the
>> WTP.  In cases where states are not shared (i.e. not implemented in one
>> or the other of the AC or WTP), this is explicitly called out in the
>> transition descriptions below." 
>> 
>> This implies that we just need to make sure the state machine language
>> around AC discovery processing is clear. We can do this by adopting
>> three simple changes recommended in Pat's text below (with minor edits):
>> 
>> For Idle-to-Discovery it should say:
>> 
>>       AC:  This state transition is executed by the AC
>>          when a Discovery Request message is
>>          received.  The AC SHOULD respond with a Discovery Response
>>          message (see Section 5.2).  The AC SHOULD NOT maintain WTP
>>          state at this point (see Section 12 for more information).
>> 
>> For Discovery to Idle it should say:  
>> 
>>       AC:  This state transition is executed by the AC after processing
>>          a Discovery Request.
>> 
>> For Discovery to Sulking it says:
>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>> 
>> 
>> With these simple changes, the problem is solved. 
>> 
>> --Scott
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) [mailto:pcalhoun@cisco.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 3:28 PM
>>> To: capwap
>>> Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking on AC 
>>> prior toDTLSEstablishment
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> I wanted to send the new state machine in order to get as many eyes on
>> 
>>> this one as possible. I have done what I believe is a very thorough 
>>> review, but this is a complex state machine. I will also include all 
>>> of the state machine text in order to make it simpler to review.
>>> Note that
>>> other than the teardown, no changes were made from the join/config 
>>> states on (meaning, only the lower part of the state machine figure 
>>> was modified).
>>>
>>> Since there is significant text here, I want to provide a little bit 
>>> of information on how this now works:
>>> - The WTP behaves pretty much the same as before, meaning that it uses
>> 
>>> a single state context. When a connection attempt fails, the state 
>>> machine goes back to the Idle state, unless some counters have hit a 
>>> threshold, in which case the state transitions to the Sulking state. 
>>> As before the WTP can do the Discovery phase, in which case either 
>>> state
>>> (5) or (c) is
>>> used. 
>>> - The AC now defines two separate threads; Listener and Service. The 
>>> Listener is the main thread that handles the discovery messages. Once 
>>> a connection request is received, it spawns a Service thread to deal 
>>> with the WTP. You will notice that the new state machine uses numerals
>> 
>>> when it applies either only to the WTP, or to the Listener thread.
>>> All state
>>> transitions that use alphabetic, or symbols, is for the Service thread
>> 
>>> or the WTP. The biggest difference in how the state machines work is 
>>> that on the AC, when a connection is being established, and fails, the
>> 
>>> Service thread's state moves back to the DTLS Setup state, not Idle.
>>> When the error thresholds are hit, the state moves to Sulking - the 
>>> quiet period. You will also notice a new Dead state, which is ONLY 
>>> valid for the Service thread, which is where the thread is terminated,
>> 
>>> and resources are freed.
>>>  
>>> Comments welcomed,
>>>
>>> PatC
>>>
>>>
>>> <text>
>>> 2.3.  CAPWAP State Machine Definition
>>>
>>>    The following state diagram represents the lifecycle of a WTP-AC
>>>    session.  Use of DTLS by the CAPWAP protocol results in the
>>>    juxtaposition of two nominally separate yet tightly bound state
>>>    machines.  The DTLS and CAPWAP state machines are coupled through 
>>> an
>>>    API consisting of commands (see Section 2.3.2.1) and notifications
>>>    (see Section 2.3.2.2).  Certain transitions in the DTLS state 
>>> machine
>>>    are triggered by commands from the CAPWAP state machine, while
>>>    certain transitions in the CAPWAP state machine are triggered by
>>>    notifications from the DTLS state machine.
>>>
>>>                             /-------------------------------------\
>>>                             |          /-------------------------\|
>>>                             |         w|                         ||
>>>                             |    x+----------+ y +------------+  ||
>>>                             |     |   Run    |-->|   Reset    |-\||
>>>                             |     +----------+   +------------+ |||
>>>                            u|  V      ^           ^     ^      z|||
>>>                 +------------+--------/           |     |       |||
>>>                 | Data Check |             /-------/    |       |||
>>>                 +------------+<-------\   |             |       |||
>>>                                       |   |             |       |||
>>>                        /------------------+--------\    |       |||
>>>                       m|             t|  o|    q   v   r|       |||
>>>                +--------+     +-----------+     +--------------+|||
>>>                |  Join  |---->| Configure |     |  Image Data  ||||
>>>                +--------+  n  +-----------+     +--------------+|||
>>>                 ^   |l                 p|                    s| |||
>>>                 |   |                   \-------------------\ | |||
>>>                 |   \--------------------------------------\| | |||
>>>                 \------------------------\                 || | |||
>>>          /--------------<----------------+---------------\ || | |||
>>>          | /------------<----------------+-------------\ | || | |||
>>>          | |                      i      |k           8| | vv v vvv
>>>          | |  d+----------------+<--+--------------+   +-----------+
>>>        /-|-|---|   DTLS Setup   |   | DTLS Connect |-->|  DTLS TD  |
>>>        | | |   +----------------+e  +--------------+ 7 +-----------+
>>>        | | |   6|   ^      ^  |f         ^       j|      ^  |~
>>>        v v v    |   |      |  |          |        |      |  |
>>>        | | |    |   |      |  \-------\  |   /----+------/  |
>>>        | | |    |   |      |          |  |   |    \---\     |
>>>        | | |    v  c|  1   |5    2    v  |g  |h       v     v
>>>        | | \->+------+-->+------+   +-----------+    +--------+
>>>        | |    | Idle |   | Disc |   | Authorize |    |  Dead  |
>>>        | |    +------+<--+------+   +-----------+    +--------+
>>>        | |        ^    0      |3                         ^
>>>        | |        |           |                          |b
>>>        | |9       |4          |                          |
>>>        | \->+---------+<------/                          |
>>>        \--->| Sulking |----------------------------------/
>>>             +---------+
>>>                       a
>>>
>>>                  Figure 3: CAPWAP Integrated State Machine
>>>
>>>    The CAPWAP protocol state machine, depicted above, is used by both
>>>    the AC and the WTP.  In cases where states are not shared (i.e. not
>>>    implemented in one or the other of the AC or WTP), this is 
>>> explicitly
>>>    called out in the transition descriptions below.  For every state
>>>
>>>    defined, only certain messages are permitted to be sent and 
>>> received.
>>>    The CAPWAP control messages definitions specify the
>>> state(s) in which
>>>    each message is valid.
>>>
>>>    Since the WTP only communicates with a single AC, it only has a
>>>    single instance of the CAPWAP state machine.  The state machine 
>>> works
>>>    differently on the AC since it communicates with many WTPs.  The AC
>>>    uses the concept of two threads.  Note that the term thread used 
>>> here
>>>    does not necessarily imply that implementers must use threads, but 
>>> it
>>>    is one possible way of implementing the AC's state machine.
>>>
>>>    Listener Thread -   The AC's Listener thread handles the shared
>>>       services, which includes receiving and responding to Discovery
>>>       Requests.  The Listener thread handles the common tasks, up to 
>>> the
>>>       DTLS Setup state.  The state machine transitions in the above
>>>       figure are represented by numerals.
>>>
>>>    Service Thread -   The AC's Service thread handles the per WTP
>>>       states, and one such thread exists per WTP connection.  This
>>>       thread starts during the DTLS Setup state, which is when the
>>>       DTLSListen command is invoked.  When created, the Service thread
>>>       inherits a copy of the state machine context from the Listener
>>>       thread.  When communication with the WTP is complete, the 
>>> Service
>>>       thread is terminated.  The state machine transitions in the 
>>> above
>>>       figure are represented by alphabetic characters (including
>>>       symbols).
>>>
>>> 2.3.1.  CAPWAP Protocol State Transitions
>>>
>>>    This section describes the various state transitions, and the 
>>> events
>>>    that cause them.  This section does not discuss interactions 
>>> between
>>>    DTLS- and CAPWAP-specific states.  Those interactions, and DTLS-
>>>    specific states and transitions, are discussed in Section 2.3.2.
>>>
>>>    Idle to Discovery (1):  This transition occurs once device
>>>       initialization is complete.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Discovery state prior to transmitting 
>>> the
>>>          first Discovery Request message (see Section 5.1).  Upon
>>>          entering this state, the WTP sets the DiscoveryInterval timer
>>>          (see Section 4.7).  The WTP resets the DiscoveryCount counter
>>>          to zero (0) (see Section 4.8).  The WTP also clears all
>>>          information from ACs it may have received during a previous
>>>          Discovery phase.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This state transition is executed by the AC's Listener
>>>          thread, and occurs when a Discovery Request message is
>>>          received.  The AC SHOULD respond with a Discovery Response
>>>          message (see Section 5.2).  The AC SHOULD NOT maintain WTP
>>>          state at this point (see Section 12 for more information).
>>>
>>>    Discovery to Discovery (2):  In the Discovery state, the WTP
>>>       determines which AC to connect to.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This transition occurs when the DiscoveryInterval timer
>>>          expires.  If the WTP is configured with a list of ACs, it
>>>          transmits a Discovery Request message to every AC from which 
>>> it
>>>          has not received a Discovery Response message.  For every
>>>          transition to this event, the WTP increments the 
>>> DiscoveryCount
>>>          counter.  See Section 5.1 for more information on how the WTP
>>>          knows the ACs to which it should transmit the Discovery 
>>> Request
>>>          messages.  The WTP restarts the DiscoveryInterval timer
>>>          whenever it transmits Discovery Request messages.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>>>
>>>    Discovery to Idle (0):  This transition occurs on the AC's Listener
>>>       thread when the Discovery processing is complete.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This state transition is executed by the AC's Listener 
>>> thread
>>>          when it has transmitted the Discovery Response, in response 
>>> to
>>>          a Discovery Request.
>>>
>>>    Discovery to Sulking (3):  This transition occurs on a WTP when AC
>>>       Discovery fails.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when the DiscoveryInterval timer
>>>          expires and the DiscoveryCount variable is equal to the
>>>          MaxDiscoveries variable (see Section 4.8).  Upon entering 
>>> this
>>>          state, the WTP MUST start the SilentInterval timer.  While in
>>>          the Sulking state, all received CAPWAP protocol messages
>>>          received MUST be ignored.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>>>
>>>    Sulking to Idle (4):  This transition occurs on a WTP when it must
>>>       restart the discovery phase.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when the SilentInterval timer 
>>> (see
>>>          Section 4.7) expires.  The FailedDTLSSessionCount,
>>>          DiscoveryCount and FailedDTLSAuthFailCount counters are reset
>>>          to zero.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>>>
>>>    Sulking to Sulking (a):  The Sulking state provides the silent
>>>       period, minimizing the possibility for Denial of Service (DoS)
>>>       attacks.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  All packets received from the AC while in the sulking 
>>> state
>>>          are ignored.
>>>
>>>       AC:  All packets receive from the WTP on the AC's Service 
>>> thread,
>>>          while in the sulking state, are ignored.
>>>
>>>    Sulking to Dead (b):  This transition occurs on the AC when the 
>>> quiet
>>>       period expires.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
>>>
>>>       AC:  The AC enters this state when the SilentInterval timer (see
>>>          Section 4.7) expires.  The AC must clean up all resources
>>>          associated with the control plane DTLS session.  The data 
>>> plane
>>>          DTLS session is also shutdown, and all resources freed, if a
>>>          DTLS session was established for the data plane.  Any timers
>>>          set for the current instance of the state machine are also
>>>          cleared.  The AC's Service thread is terminated.
>>>
>>>    Idle to DTLS Setup (c):  This transition occurs to establish a 
>>> secure
>>>       DTLS session with the peer.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP initiates this transition by invoking the 
>>> DTLSStart
>>>          command, which starts the DTLS session establishment with the
>>>          chosen AC.  When the discovery phase is bypassed, it is 
>>> assumed
>>>          the WTP has locally configured ACs.
>>>
>>>       AC:  The AC initiates this transition by invoking the DTLSListen
>>>          command (see Section 2.3.2.1), which informs the DTLS stack
>>>          that it is willing to listen for an incoming session.  The 
>>> AC's
>>>          Listener thread forks an instance of the Service thread, 
>>> along
>>>          with a copy of the state context.  If the AC had maintained 
>>> WTP
>>>          state information during the Discovery exchange, or through
>>>          some other means that may include static configuration of 
>>> WTPs,
>>>          the AC MAY provide optional qualifiers in the DTLSListen
>>>          command to only accept session requests a specific WTP.  Note
>>>          that the AC SHOULD NOT maintain state information based on an
>>>          unsecured Discovery Request message, as this can lead to a
>>>          Denial of Service attack (see Section 12).  In such 
>>> instances,
>>>          the AC MUST ensure that this state information is freed after
>> 
>>> a
>>>          period, which is implementation specific.
>>>
>>>    Discovery to DTLS Setup (5):  This transition occurs to establish a
>>>       secure DTLS session with the peer.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP initiates this transition by invoking the 
>>> DTLSStart
>>>          command (see Section 2.3.2.1), which starts the DTLS session
>>>          establishment with the chosen AC.  The decision of which AC 
>>> to
>>>          connect to is the result of the discovery phase, which is
>>>          described in Section 3.3.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>>>
>>>    DTLS Setup to Idle (6):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>>>       connection setup has failed.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP initiates this state transition when it receives a
>>>          DTLSEstablishFail notification from DTLS (see Section 
>>> 2.3.2.2),
>>>          and the FailedDTLSSessionCount or the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount
>>>          counter have not reached the value of the
>>>          MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section 4.8).  This
>>>          error notification aborts the secure DTLS session
>>>          establishment.  When this notification is received, the
>>>          FailedDTLSSessionCount counter is incremented.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>>>
>>>    DTLS Setup to Sulking (d):  This transition occurs when repeated
>>>       attempts to setup the DTLS connection have failed.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when the FailedDTLSSessionCount 
>>> or
>>>          the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount counter reaches the value of the
>>>          MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section 4.8).  Upon
>>>          entering this state, the WTP MUST start the SilentInterval
>>>          timer.  While in the Sulking state, all received CAPWAP and
>>>          DTLS protocol messages received MUST be ignored.
>>>
>>>       AC:  The AC enters this state with the specific WTP when the
>>>          FailedDTLSSessionCount or the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount counter
>>>          reaches MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section 4.8).
>>>          Upon entering this state, the AC's Service thread MUST start
>>>          the SilentInterval timer, and ignore all CAPWAP and DTLS
>>>          protocol messages received from the WTP.  The AC immediately
>>>          transitions the state to Idle.
>>>
>>>    DTLS Setup to DTLS Setup (e):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>>>       Session failed to be established.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
>>>
>>>       AC:  The AC initiates this state transition by the Service 
>>> thread
>>>          when it receives a DTLSEstablishFail notification from DTLS
>>>          (see Section 2.3.2.2).  This error notification aborts the
>>>          secure DTLS session establishment.  When this notification is
>>>          received, the FailedDTLSSessionCount counter is incremented.
>>>
>>>    DTLS Setup to Authorize (f):  This transition occurs when an 
>>> incoming
>>>       DTLS session is being established, and the DTLS stack needs
>>>       authorization to proceed with the session establishment.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives the
>>>          DTLSPeerAuthorize notification (see Section 2.3.2.2).  Upon
>>>          entering this state, the WTP performs an authorization check
>>>          against the AC credentials.  See Section 2.4.4 for more
>>>          information on AC authorization.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the
>>>          DTLSPeerAuthorize notification (see Section 2.3.2.2).  Upon
>>>          entering this state, the AC performs an authorization check
>>>          against the WTP credentials.  See Section 2.4.4 for more
>>>          information on WTP authorization.
>>>
>>>    Authorize to DTLS Connect (g):  This transition occurs to notify 
>>> the
>>>       DTLS stack that the session should be established.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP has successfully
>>>          authorized the AC's credentials (see Section 2.4.4).  This is
>>>          done by invoking the DTLSAccept DTLS command (see
>>>          Section 2.3.2.1).
>>>
>>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC has successfully
>>>          authorized the WTP's credentials (see Section 2.4.4).  This 
>>> is
>>>          done by invoking the DTLSAccept DTLS command (see
>>>          Section 2.3.2.1).
>>>
>>>    Authorize to DTLS Teardown (h):  This transition occurs to notify 
>>> the
>>>       DTLS stack that the session should be aborted.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP was unable to
>>>          authorize the AC, using the AC credentials.  The WTP then
>>>          aborts the DTLS session by invoking the DTLSAbortSession
>>>          command (see Section 2.3.2.1).
>>>
>>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC was unable to
>>>          authorize the WTP, using the WTP credentials.  The AC then
>>>          aborts the DTLS session by invoking the DTLSAbortSession
>>>          command (see Section 2.3.2.1).
>>>
>>>    DTLS Connect to DTLS Teardown (7):  This transition occurs when the
>>>       DTLS Session failed to be established.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives either 
>>> a
>>>          DTLSAborted or DTLSAuthenticateFail notification (see
>>>          Section 2.3.2.2), indicating that the DTLS session was not
>>>          successfully established.  When this transition occurs due to
>>>          the DTLSAuthenticateFail notification, the
>>>          FailedDTLSAuthFailCount is incremented, otherwise the
>>>          FailedDTLSSessionCount counter is incremented.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>>>
>>>    DTLS Connect to DTLS Setup (i):  This transition occurs when the 
>>> DTLS
>>>       Session failed to be established.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives either a
>>>          DTLSAborted or DTLSAuthenticateFail notification (see
>>>          Section 2.3.2.2), indicating that the DTLS session was not
>>>          successfully established, and both of the
>>>          FailedDTLSAuthFailCount and FailedDTLSSessionCount counters
>>>          have not reached the value of the MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry
>>>          variable (see Section 4.8).
>>>
>>>    DTLS Connect to Dead (j):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>>>       Session failed to be established.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives either a
>>>          DTLSAborted or DTLSAuthenticateFail notification (see
>>>          Section 2.3.2.2), indicating that the DTLS session was not
>>>          successfully established, and either the
>>>          FailedDTLSAuthFailCount and FailedDTLSSessionCount counters
>>>          have reached the value of the MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry
>>>          variable (see Section 4.8).
>>>
>>>    DTLS Connect to Join (k):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>>>       Session is successfully established.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives the
>>>          DTLSEstablished notification (see Section 2.3.2.2), 
>>> indicating
>>>          that the DTLS session was successfully established.  
>>> When this
>>>          notification is received, the FailedDTLSSessionCount counter 
>>> is
>>>          set to zero.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the
>>>          DTLSEstablished notification (see Section 2.3.2.2), 
>>> indicating
>>>          that the DTLS session was successfully established.  
>>> When this
>>>          notification is received, the FailedDTLSSessionCount counter 
>>> is
>>>          set to zero, and the WaitJoin timer is started (see
>>>          Section 4.7).
>>>
>>>    Join to DTLS Teardown (l):  This transition occurs when the join
>>>       process failed.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives a Join
>>>          Response message with a Result Code message element 
>>> containing
>>>          an error, if the Image Identifier provided by the AC in the
>>>          Join Response message differs from the WTP's currently 
>>> running
>>>          firmware version and the WTP has the requested image in its
>>>          non-volatile memory, or if the WaitDTLS timer expires.  This
>>>          causes the WTP to initiate the DTLSShutdown command (see
>>>          Section 2.3.2.1).  This transition also occurs if the WTP
>>>          receives one of the following DTLS notifications: 
>>> DTLSAborted,
>>>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This state transition occurs either if the WaitJoin timer
>>>          expires or if the AC transmits a Join Response message with a
>>>          Result Code message element containing an error.  This causes
>>>          the AC to initiate the DTLSShutdown command (see
>>>          Section 2.3.2.1).  This transition also occurs if the AC
>>>          receives one of the following DTLS notifications: 
>>> DTLSAborted,
>>>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect.
>>>
>>>    Join to Image Data (m):  This state transition is used by the WTP 
>>> and
>>>       the AC to download executable firmware.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Image Data state when it receives a
>>>          successful Join Response message and determines and the
>>>          included Image Identifier message element is not the same as
>>>          its currently running image.  The WTP also detects that the
>>>          requested image version is not currently available in the 
>>> WTP's
>>>          non-volatile storage (see Section 9.1 for a full description 
>>> of
>>>          the firmware download process).  The WTP initializes the
>>>          EchoInterval timer (see Section 4.7), and transmits the Image
>>>          Data Request message (see Section 9.1.1) requesting the start
>>>          of the firmware download.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the Image
>>>          Data Request message from the WTP.  The AC MUST transmit an
>>>          Image Data Response message (see Section 9.1.2) to the WTP,
>>>          which includes a portion of the firmware.  The AC MUST start
>>>          the ImageDataStartTimer timer (see Section 4.7).
>>>
>>>    Join to Configure (n):  This state transition is used by the WTP 
>>> and
>>>       the AC to exchange configuration information.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Configure state when it receives a
>>>          successful Join Response, and determines that the included
>>>          Image Identifier message element is the same as its currently
>>>          running image.  The WTP transmits the Configuration Status
>>>          message (see Section 8.2) to the AC with message elements
>>>          describing its current configuration.  The WTP also starts 
>>> the
>>>          ResponseTimeout timer (see Section 4.7).
>>>
>>>       AC:  This state transition occurs immediately after the AC
>>>          transmits the Join Response message to the WTP.  If the AC
>>>          receives the Configuration Status message from the WTP, the 
>>> AC
>>>          MUST transmit a Configuration Status Response message (see
>>>          Section 8.3) to the WTP, and MAY include specific message
>>>          elements to override the WTP's configuration.  The AC also
>>>          starts the ChangeStatePendingTimer timer (see Section 4.7).
>>>
>>>    Configure to Reset (o):  This state transition is used to reset the
>>>       connection either due to an error during the configuration 
>>> phase,
>>>       or when the WTP determines it needs to reset in order for the 
>>> new
>>>       configuration to take effect.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Reset state when it receives a
>>>          Configuration Status Response indicating an error or when it
>>>          determines that a reset of the WTP is required, due to the
>>>          characteristics of a new configuration.
>>>
>>>       AC:  The AC transitions to the Reset state when it receives a
>>>          Change State Event message from the WTP that contains an 
>>> error
>>>          for which AC policy does not permit the WTP to provide 
>>> service.
>>>          This state transition also occurs when the AC
>>>          ChangeStatePendingTimer timer expires.
>>>
>>>    Configure to DTLS Teardown (p):  This transition occurs when the
>>>       configuration process aborts due to a DTLS error.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives one of the
>>>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>>>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>>>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS session if 
>>> it
>>>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.
>>>
>>>       AC:  The AC enters this state when it receives one of the
>>>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>>>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>>>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS session if 
>>> it
>>>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.
>>>
>>>    Image Data to Image Data (q):  The Image Data state is used by the
>>>       WTP and the AC during the firmware download phase.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Image Data state when it receives an
>>>          Image Data Response message indicating that the AC has more
>>>          data to send.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the Image
>>>          Data Request message from the WTP while already in the Image
>>>          Data state.  The AC resets the ImageDataStartTimer timer.
>>>
>>>    Image Data to Reset (r):  This state transition is used to reset 
>>> the
>>>       DTLS connection prior to restarting the WTP after an image
>>>       download.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  When an image download completes, the WTP enters the Reset
>>>          state.  The WTP MAY also transition to this state upon
>>>          receiving an Image Data Response message from the AC (see
>>>          Section 9.1.2) indicating a failure.
>>>
>>>       AC:  The AC enters the Reset state when an error occurs during 
>>> the
>>>          image download process or if the ImageDataStartTimer timer
>>>          expires.
>>>
>>>    Image Data to DTLS Teardown (s):  This transition occurs when the
>>>       firmware download process aborts due to a DTLS error.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives one of the
>>>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>>>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>>>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS session if 
>>> it
>>>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.
>>>
>>>       AC:  The AC enters this state when it receives one of the
>>>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>>>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>>>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS session if 
>>> it
>>>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.
>>>
>>>    Configure to Data Check (t):  This state transition occurs when the
>>>       WTP and AC confirm the configuration.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives a successful
>>>          Configuration Status Response message from the AC.  The WTP
>>>          initializes the EchoInterval timer (see Section 4.7), and
>>>          transmits the Change State Event Request message (see
>>>          Section 8.6).
>>>
>>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the 
>>> Change
>>>          State Event Request message (see Section 8.6) from the WTP.
>>>          The AC responds with a Change State Event Response message 
>>> (see
>>>          Section 8.7).  The AC MUST start the DataCheckTimer timer 
>>> (see
>>>          Section 4.7).
>>>
>>>    Data Check to DTLS Teardown (u):  This transition occurs when the 
>>> WTP
>>>       does not complete the Data Check exchange.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs if the WTP does not receive 
>>> the
>>>          Change State Event Response before a CAPWAP transmission
>>>          timeout occurs.
>>>
>>>       AC:  The AC enters this state when the DataCheckTimer timer
>>>          expires (see Section 4.7).
>>>
>>>    Data Check to Run (V):  This state transition occurs when the 
>>> linkage
>>>       between the control and data channels has occured, causing the 
>>> WTP
>>>       and AC to enter their normal state of operation.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives a successful
>>>          Change State Event Response message from the AC.  The WTP
>>>          initiates the data channel, which MAY require the 
>>> establishment
>>>          of a DTLS session, starts the DataChannelKeepAlive timer (see
>>>          Section 4.7) and transmits a Data Channel Keep Alive packet
>>>          (see Section 4.4.1).  The WTP then starts the
>>>          DataChannelDeadInterval timer (see Section 4.7).
>>>
>>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the Data
>>>          Channel Keep Alive packet (see Section 4.4.1), with a Session
>>>          ID message element matching that included by the WTP in the
>>>          Join Request message.  The AC disables the DataCheckTimer
>>>          timer.  Note that if AC policy is to require the data channel
>>>          to be encrypted, this process would also require the
>>>          establishment of a data channel DTLS session.  Upon receiving
>>>          the Data Channel Keep Alive packet, the AC transmits its own
>>>          Data Channel Keep Alive packet.
>>>
>>>    Run to DTLS Teardown (w):  This state transition occurs when an 
>>> error
>>>       has occured in the DTLS stack, causing the DTLS session to be
>>>       torndown.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives one of the
>>>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>>>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>>>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS session if 
>>> it
>>>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.  
>>> The WTP also
>>>          transitions to this state if the underlying reliable
>>>          transport's RetransmitCount counter has reached the
>>>          MaxRetransmit variable (see Section 4.7).
>>>
>>>       AC:  The AC enters this state when it receives one of the
>>>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>>>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>>>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS session if 
>>> it
>>>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.  The AC
>>>          transitions to this state if the underlying reliable
>>>          transport's RetransmitCount counter has reached the
>>>          MaxRetransmit variable (see Section 4.7).
>>>
>>>    Run to Run (x):  This is the normal state of operation.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This is the WTP's normal state of operation.  
>>> There are many
>>>          events that result this state transition:
>>>
>>>          Configuration Update:  The WTP receives a Configuration 
>>> Update
>>>             Request message(see Section 8.4).  The WTP MUST respond 
>>> with
>>>             a Configuration Update Response message (see Section 8.5).
>>>
>>>          Change State Event:  The WTP receives a Change State Event
>>>             Response message, or determines that it must initiate a
>>>             Change State Event Request message, as a result of a 
>>> failure
>>>             or change in the state of a radio.
>>>
>>>          Echo Request:  The WTP sends an Echo Request message
>>>             (Section 7.1) or receives the corresponding Echo Response
>>>             message, (see Section 7.2) from the AC.
>>>
>>>          Clear Config Request:  The WTP receives a Clear Configuration
>>>             Request message (see Section 8.8).  The WTP MUST reset its
>>>             configuration back to manufacturer defaults.
>>>
>>>          WTP Event:  The WTP sends a WTP Event Request message,
>>>             delivering information to the AC (see Section 9.4).  The 
>>> WTP
>>>             receives a WTP Event Response message from the AC (see
>>>             Section 9.5).
>>>
>>>          Data Transfer:  The WTP sends a Data Transfer Request message
>>>             to the AC (see Section 9.6).  The WTP receives a Data
>>>             Transfer Response message from the AC (see Section 9.7).
>>>
>>>          Station Configuration Request:  The WTP receives a Station
>>>             Configuration Request message (see Section 10.1), to which
>>>             it MUST respond with a Station Configuration Response
>>>             message (see Section 10.2).
>>>
>>>       AC:  This is the AC's normal state of operation:
>>>
>>>          Configuration Update:  The AC sends a Configuration Update
>>>             Request message (see Section 8.4) to the WTP to update its
>>>             configuration.  The AC receives a Configuration Update
>>>             Response message (see Section 8.5) from the WTP.
>>>
>>>          Change State Event:  The AC receives a Change State Event
>>>             Request message (see Section 8.6), to which it MUST 
>>> respond
>>>             with the Change State Event Response message (see
>>>             Section 8.7).
>>>
>>>          Echo Request:  The AC receives an Echo Request message (see
>>>             Section 7.1), to which it MUST respond with an Echo 
>>> Response
>>>             message(see Section 7.2).
>>>
>>>          Clear Config Response:  The AC receives a Clear Configuration
>>>             Response message from the WTP (see Section 8.9).
>>>
>>>          WTP Event:  The AC receives a WTP Event Request message from
>>>             the WTP (see Section 9.4) and MUST generate a 
>>> corresponding
>>>             WTP Event Response message (see Section 9.5).
>>>
>>>          Data Transfer:  The AC receives a Data Transfer Request 
>>> message
>>>             from the WTP (see Section 9.6) and MUST generate a
>>>             corresponding Data Transfer Response message (see
>>>             Section 9.7).
>>>
>>>          Station Configuration Request:  The AC sends a Station
>>>             Configuration Request message (see Section 10.1) or 
>>> receives
>>>             the corresponding Station Configuration Response message
>>>             (see Section 10.2) from the WTP.
>>>
>>>    Run to Reset (y):  This state transition is used when either the AC
>>>       or WTP tear down the connection.  This may occur as part of 
>>> normal
>>>       operation, or due to error conditions.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Reset state when it receives a Reset
>>>          Request message from the AC.
>>>
>>>       AC:  The AC enters the Reset state when it transmits a Reset
>>>          Request message to the WTP.
>>>
>>>    Reset to DTLS Teardown (z):  This transition occurs when the CAPWAP
>>>       reset is complete, to terminate the DTLS session.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives a Reset
>>>          Response message.  This causes the WTP to initiate the
>>>          DTLSShutdown command (see Section 2.3.2.1).
>>>
>>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC transmits a Reset
>>>          Response message.  The AC does not invoke the DTLSShutdown
>>>          command (see Section 2.3.2.1).
>>>
>>>    DTLS Teardown to Idle (8):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>>>       session has been shutdown.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP has successfully
>>>          cleaned up all resources associated with the control plane 
>>> DTLS
>>>          session.  The data plane DTLS session is also shutdown, and 
>>> all
>>>          resources freed, if a DTLS session was established for the 
>>> data
>>>          plane.  Any timers set for the current instance of the state
>>>          machine are also cleared.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>>>
>>>    DTLS Teardown to Sulking (9):  This transition occurs when repeated
>>>       attempts to setup the DTLS connection have failed.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when the FailedDTLSSessionCount 
>>> or
>>>          the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount counter reaches the value of the
>>>          MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section 4.8).  Upon
>>>          entering this state, the WTP MUST start the SilentInterval
>>>          timer.  While in the Sulking state, all received CAPWAP and
>>>          DTLS protocol messages received MUST be ignored.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>>>
>>>    DTLS Teardown to Dead (~):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>>>       session has been shutdown.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC has successfully
>>>          cleaned up all resources associated with the control plane 
>>> DTLS
>>>          session.  The data plane DTLS session is also shutdown, and 
>>> all
>>>          resources freed, if a DTLS session was established for the 
>>> data
>>>          plane.  Any timers set for the current instance of the state
>>>          machine are also cleared.  The AC's Service thread is
>>>          terminated.
>>>
>>> 12.3.  Discovery Attacks
>>> [...]
>>>    Some implementations may wish to pass information about clients who
>>>    have passed the discovery phase to the DTLS layer, authorizing only
>>>    those clients to initiate a DTLS handshake.  Note that the impact 
>>> of
>>>    this on mitigating denial of service attacks against the DTLS layer
>>>    is minimal, because DTLS already uses client-side cookies to 
>>> minimize
>>>    processor consumption attacks.  As a result, implementations SHOULD
>>>    NOT maintain state between the discovery and DTLS handshake phases 
>>> of
>>>    the CAPWAP protocol initialization.
>>>
>>> </text>
>>>
>>> PatC
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:17 AM
>>> To: capwap
>>> Subject: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking on AC prior to
>> 
>>> DTLSEstablishment
>>>
>>> I wanted to provide a follow-up based on the conversation during the 
>>> meeting yesterday. The issue that is being raised in this issue is 
>>> that the state machine doesn't really work well on the AC. There is 
>>> text that states that the AC has a different "state context" per WTP, 
>>> but right now this would require that the AC maintains state during 
>>> the discovery, etc. However, we have all agreed that the AC should not
>> 
>>> have to do so.
>>> So we agreed that we needed to provide more clarity on the state 
>>> machine that allows for the AC to provide services such as responding 
>>> to Discovery Requests, without explicitely maintaining per WTP state.
>>>  
>>> I am working on modifications to the state machine, and expect to have
>> 
>>> this sent to the list later today.
>>>  
>>> PatC
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You said:
> Sulking, as currently defined, should *never* occur on the AC - it
creates an easy opportunity for unauthenticated, low 
> cost DoS attacks of measurable duration (due to the sulking period).
This makes it really easy to send "pulses" every 
> (sulk_period - n seconds) which can take and keep legitimate WTPs
offline. It makes no sense to design this flaw into 
> the protocol. If implementations want to deal with this at the AC
(other than sending an administrative alert), rate 
> limiting with random packet drops is far more sensible, and mitigates
any effect on legitimate WTPs.

> The need for discovery transitions, a "dead state", etc. derive from a
red herring, because discovery is stateless for 
> the AC. I'm really surprised you helped Pat design these state machine
changes, after saying pretty much the same 
> things I say above in your response to his issuer tracker post. Was
there some compelling argument that changed your 
> mind? If so, please share it - I am not intransigent in my position,
but from what I can see, what you guys are 
> proposing makes no sense, and only serves to make the state machine in
the document conform to an implementation which 
> maintains discovery state. 

If the issue is with Sulking, we can fix that. I'm open the making
necessary changes to avoid security vulnerabilities. We can remove the
Sulking state our of the DTLS Setup/Connect states, although there
really is no perfect world here. Either you are open to constantly
processing invalid connect setup requests, or you disable this for a
period of time from a given IP address. I understand the consequences,
but it is a decision that an implementer needs to make. If we decide
that rate limiting is the way to go, I'm ok with that too (and this
could cause the same effect as the current text, btw).

That said, I think that the state machine clearly shows how one *could*
implement the state machine. It does not limit how an implementer can,
but I believe it provides the right guidance, and really helps
understand how the AC should work. There was text previously, but
frankly, it was hard to understand. Further, we opted to make a "SHOULD
NOT" for maintaining state, but that means that while one SHOULD NOT,
one can if they want to. So the state machine must allow for that. I
believe it does now, and an implementer is free to choose whether he/she
wants to or not.

PatC

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott G. Kelly [mailto:s.kelly@ix.netcom.com] 
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 8:00 AM
To: Charles Clancy; capwap
Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking onAC prior
toDTLSEstablishment

Comments inline below...

-----Original Message-----
>From: Charles Clancy <clancy@cs.umd.edu>
>Sent: Dec 15, 2007 2:52 PM
>To: capwap <capwap@frascone.com>
>Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking on AC
prior	toDTLSEstablishment
>
>I'm trying to compare Pat and Scott's suggested changes.  Scott is 
>suggesting removing (f) and adding a new transition from discovery to 
>idle (at least those would be necessary for your proposed text to make 
>sense).  Pat is also suggesting doing that, but is also suggesting some

>additional changes that deal with further separation of a logical
global 
>state machine in the AC and per-WTP state machines (by adding the
"Dead" 
>state and a rearranging a few more state transitions).

I think I confused things by suggesting idle-discovery-idle transitions
for the AC. I originally suggested (in an offline email to you guys last
week) that the discovery-idle-sulk loop does not exist for the AC, and
you said the same thing in your email that Pat cut/pasted to the issue
tracker. That is what I should have said in this thread as well. 

If one really wishes to show a discovery "state" for the AC (which does
not make sense, since the AC is stateless with respect to discovery),
then a simple loop from discovery to discovery is all that is required
to reflect the "transition" that occurs when the AC receives a discovery
request, sends a response, and goes back to listening. That is, there is
no idle state, and no idle<->discovery transitions.

>I think there are problems in the state machine if we only patch the 
>idle/discovery transitions, as suggested by Scott.  In particular, 
>there's no way to throttle failed DTLS connections when no discovery is

>performed (the only error exit from DTLS Setup is to Idle -- we need a 
>way to get from DTLS Setup to sulking to prevent repeated crypto 
>failures from causing Idle->DTLSSetup->Idle loops).
>
>I'm not seeing Scott's issues with the new state machine (i.e. the "new

>problems and confusion").  The discovery-idle-sulking changes seem 
>logically identical between the two proposals.  If there are text 
>issues, I think those can be sorted out.
>
>I think Scott's suggestions could work, but would need some additional 
>transitions (i.e. DTLS Setup to Sulking for the WTP, among others) to 
>make everything work right.

One of us is missing something - let me know if it's me. My
understanding is that issue 30 refers to the AC only, but you are
talking about the WTP here. I made no suggestions regarding the WTP, and
as far as I can tell, neither did Pat. 

Sulking, as currently defined, should *never* occur on the AC - it
creates an easy opportunity for unauthenticated, low cost DoS attacks of
measurable duration (due to the sulking period). This makes it really
easy to send "pulses" every (sulk_period - n seconds) which can take and
keep legitimate WTPs offline. It makes no sense to design this flaw into
the protocol. If implementations want to deal with this at the AC (other
than sending an administrative alert), rate limiting with random packet
drops is far more sensible, and mitigates any effect on legitimate WTPs.

>Whether Pat's changes are too drastic -- I guess that's for the WG to 
>decide.  I do think Pat has a complete set of changes that solve all
the 
>issues raised in issue 30.

The need for discovery transitions, a "dead state", etc. derive from a
red herring, because discovery is stateless for the AC. I'm really
surprised you helped Pat design these state machine changes, after
saying pretty much the same things I say above in your response to his
issuer tracker post. Was there some compelling argument that changed
your mind? If so, please share it - I am not intransigent in my
position, but from what I can see, what you guys are proposing makes no
sense, and only serves to make the state machine in the document conform
to an implementation which maintains discovery state.


--Scott


>
>-- 
>t. charles clancy, ph.d.                 eng.umd.edu/~tcc
>electrical & computer engineering, university of maryland
>
>Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) wrote:
>> The reason why I like the new state machine is that it is very clear
on
>> how the AC deals with the fact that it keeps multiple copies of state
>> machine context. The previous version really didn't make that clear
at
>> all. As an implementer, I know that I just have to follow the
>> guidelines, which clearly state when a copy is made, and managed
>> independently, and when it is deleted.
>> 
>> I recognize this provides some implementation guidance, and some
folks
>> don't like that. But it certainly is clear.
>> 
>> If the issue has to do with the Sulking state, then we can address
that.
>> I would, however, be interested in Charles' take on that issue.
>> 
>> PatC 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Scott Kelly [mailto:skelly@arubanetworks.com] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 9:17 AM
>> To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou); capwap
>> Subject: RE: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking on AC
prior
>> toDTLSEstablishment
>> 
>> We've had a private discussion on this topic off-list, but have not
been
>> able to come to agreement, so I'll make my comments here. I don't
think
>> we should (or need to) introduce these dramatic changes to the
document
>> just prior to last call.
>> 
>> The "problem" we are trying to resolve resulted when someone added
>> language saying the AC MAY maintain discovery state. This change was
>> apparently introduced last January. There is no record of working
group
>> or mailing list discussion -- the change just appeared in a document
>> update. 
>> 
>> On Oct 12, Pat posted a comment saying the state machine language
>> surrounding discovery state is inconsistent. I agree. It was made
>> inconsistent by the introduction of discovery state to the AC.
>> 
>> In the issue tracker, there is a comment from Charles which must have
>> been copied from a private email, as I cannot find it in the list
>> archives. Here is that comment:
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------
>> It seems to me that to be in any state at all assumes state is being
>> maintained.  Describing a transition from one state to another with
>> behavior caveatted with "if state is being maintained" doesn't make
any
>> sense to me.  
>> If we have no state, then we have no state transitions.
>> 
>> IIRC, don't we allow connections that don't do discovery first (it's
>> been a while, correct me if I'm wrong)?  In which case, DTLS on the
AC
>> should always be listening, and transition "f" can be simply a WTP
>> transition.  The AC
>> 
>> transition would be back to Idle rather than DTLS setup.  You could
run
>> discovery as its own subgraph of the AC state machine.  If you wanted
to
>> share state information between the two, you could have an API to do
>> that.
>> ------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> I agree with what Charles says above.
>> 
>> The changes Pat is proposing do not fix the problem - they actually
>> introduce new problems and confusion. Since we have agreed that the
AC
>> SHOULD NOT maintain discovery state, the discovery-idle-sulking
>> transitions make no sense in the context of the AC. However, fixing
this
>> does not require separate state machines, or dramatic changes to the
>> existing state machine.
>> 
>> In draft-08, section 2.3, just below Figure 3, it says "The CAPWAP
>> protocol state machine, depicted above, is used by both the AC and
the
>> WTP.  In cases where states are not shared (i.e. not implemented in
one
>> or the other of the AC or WTP), this is explicitly called out in the
>> transition descriptions below." 
>> 
>> This implies that we just need to make sure the state machine
language
>> around AC discovery processing is clear. We can do this by adopting
>> three simple changes recommended in Pat's text below (with minor
edits):
>> 
>> For Idle-to-Discovery it should say:
>> 
>>       AC:  This state transition is executed by the AC
>>          when a Discovery Request message is
>>          received.  The AC SHOULD respond with a Discovery Response
>>          message (see Section 5.2).  The AC SHOULD NOT maintain WTP
>>          state at this point (see Section 12 for more information).
>> 
>> For Discovery to Idle it should say:  
>> 
>>       AC:  This state transition is executed by the AC after
processing
>>          a Discovery Request.
>> 
>> For Discovery to Sulking it says:
>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>> 
>> 
>> With these simple changes, the problem is solved. 
>> 
>> --Scott
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) [mailto:pcalhoun@cisco.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 3:28 PM
>>> To: capwap
>>> Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking on AC 
>>> prior toDTLSEstablishment
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> I wanted to send the new state machine in order to get as many eyes
on
>> 
>>> this one as possible. I have done what I believe is a very thorough 
>>> review, but this is a complex state machine. I will also include all

>>> of the state machine text in order to make it simpler to review.
>>> Note that
>>> other than the teardown, no changes were made from the join/config 
>>> states on (meaning, only the lower part of the state machine figure 
>>> was modified).
>>>
>>> Since there is significant text here, I want to provide a little bit

>>> of information on how this now works:
>>> - The WTP behaves pretty much the same as before, meaning that it
uses
>> 
>>> a single state context. When a connection attempt fails, the state 
>>> machine goes back to the Idle state, unless some counters have hit a

>>> threshold, in which case the state transitions to the Sulking state.

>>> As before the WTP can do the Discovery phase, in which case either 
>>> state
>>> (5) or (c) is
>>> used. 
>>> - The AC now defines two separate threads; Listener and Service. The

>>> Listener is the main thread that handles the discovery messages.
Once 
>>> a connection request is received, it spawns a Service thread to deal

>>> with the WTP. You will notice that the new state machine uses
numerals
>> 
>>> when it applies either only to the WTP, or to the Listener thread.
>>> All state
>>> transitions that use alphabetic, or symbols, is for the Service
thread
>> 
>>> or the WTP. The biggest difference in how the state machines work is

>>> that on the AC, when a connection is being established, and fails,
the
>> 
>>> Service thread's state moves back to the DTLS Setup state, not Idle.
>>> When the error thresholds are hit, the state moves to Sulking - the 
>>> quiet period. You will also notice a new Dead state, which is ONLY 
>>> valid for the Service thread, which is where the thread is
terminated,
>> 
>>> and resources are freed.
>>>  
>>> Comments welcomed,
>>>
>>> PatC
>>>
>>>
>>> <text>
>>> 2.3.  CAPWAP State Machine Definition
>>>
>>>    The following state diagram represents the lifecycle of a WTP-AC
>>>    session.  Use of DTLS by the CAPWAP protocol results in the
>>>    juxtaposition of two nominally separate yet tightly bound state
>>>    machines.  The DTLS and CAPWAP state machines are coupled through

>>> an
>>>    API consisting of commands (see Section 2.3.2.1) and
notifications
>>>    (see Section 2.3.2.2).  Certain transitions in the DTLS state 
>>> machine
>>>    are triggered by commands from the CAPWAP state machine, while
>>>    certain transitions in the CAPWAP state machine are triggered by
>>>    notifications from the DTLS state machine.
>>>
>>>                             /-------------------------------------\
>>>                             |          /-------------------------\|
>>>                             |         w|                         ||
>>>                             |    x+----------+ y +------------+  ||
>>>                             |     |   Run    |-->|   Reset    |-\||
>>>                             |     +----------+   +------------+ |||
>>>                            u|  V      ^           ^     ^      z|||
>>>                 +------------+--------/           |     |       |||
>>>                 | Data Check |             /-------/    |       |||
>>>                 +------------+<-------\   |             |       |||
>>>                                       |   |             |       |||
>>>                        /------------------+--------\    |       |||
>>>                       m|             t|  o|    q   v   r|       |||
>>>                +--------+     +-----------+     +--------------+|||
>>>                |  Join  |---->| Configure |     |  Image Data  ||||
>>>                +--------+  n  +-----------+     +--------------+|||
>>>                 ^   |l                 p|                    s| |||
>>>                 |   |                   \-------------------\ | |||
>>>                 |   \--------------------------------------\| | |||
>>>                 \------------------------\                 || | |||
>>>          /--------------<----------------+---------------\ || | |||
>>>          | /------------<----------------+-------------\ | || | |||
>>>          | |                      i      |k           8| | vv v vvv
>>>          | |  d+----------------+<--+--------------+   +-----------+
>>>        /-|-|---|   DTLS Setup   |   | DTLS Connect |-->|  DTLS TD  |
>>>        | | |   +----------------+e  +--------------+ 7 +-----------+
>>>        | | |   6|   ^      ^  |f         ^       j|      ^  |~
>>>        v v v    |   |      |  |          |        |      |  |
>>>        | | |    |   |      |  \-------\  |   /----+------/  |
>>>        | | |    |   |      |          |  |   |    \---\     |
>>>        | | |    v  c|  1   |5    2    v  |g  |h       v     v
>>>        | | \->+------+-->+------+   +-----------+    +--------+
>>>        | |    | Idle |   | Disc |   | Authorize |    |  Dead  |
>>>        | |    +------+<--+------+   +-----------+    +--------+
>>>        | |        ^    0      |3                         ^
>>>        | |        |           |                          |b
>>>        | |9       |4          |                          |
>>>        | \->+---------+<------/                          |
>>>        \--->| Sulking |----------------------------------/
>>>             +---------+
>>>                       a
>>>
>>>                  Figure 3: CAPWAP Integrated State Machine
>>>
>>>    The CAPWAP protocol state machine, depicted above, is used by
both
>>>    the AC and the WTP.  In cases where states are not shared (i.e.
not
>>>    implemented in one or the other of the AC or WTP), this is 
>>> explicitly
>>>    called out in the transition descriptions below.  For every state
>>>
>>>    defined, only certain messages are permitted to be sent and 
>>> received.
>>>    The CAPWAP control messages definitions specify the
>>> state(s) in which
>>>    each message is valid.
>>>
>>>    Since the WTP only communicates with a single AC, it only has a
>>>    single instance of the CAPWAP state machine.  The state machine 
>>> works
>>>    differently on the AC since it communicates with many WTPs.  The
AC
>>>    uses the concept of two threads.  Note that the term thread used 
>>> here
>>>    does not necessarily imply that implementers must use threads,
but 
>>> it
>>>    is one possible way of implementing the AC's state machine.
>>>
>>>    Listener Thread -   The AC's Listener thread handles the shared
>>>       services, which includes receiving and responding to Discovery
>>>       Requests.  The Listener thread handles the common tasks, up to

>>> the
>>>       DTLS Setup state.  The state machine transitions in the above
>>>       figure are represented by numerals.
>>>
>>>    Service Thread -   The AC's Service thread handles the per WTP
>>>       states, and one such thread exists per WTP connection.  This
>>>       thread starts during the DTLS Setup state, which is when the
>>>       DTLSListen command is invoked.  When created, the Service
thread
>>>       inherits a copy of the state machine context from the Listener
>>>       thread.  When communication with the WTP is complete, the 
>>> Service
>>>       thread is terminated.  The state machine transitions in the 
>>> above
>>>       figure are represented by alphabetic characters (including
>>>       symbols).
>>>
>>> 2.3.1.  CAPWAP Protocol State Transitions
>>>
>>>    This section describes the various state transitions, and the 
>>> events
>>>    that cause them.  This section does not discuss interactions 
>>> between
>>>    DTLS- and CAPWAP-specific states.  Those interactions, and DTLS-
>>>    specific states and transitions, are discussed in Section 2.3.2.
>>>
>>>    Idle to Discovery (1):  This transition occurs once device
>>>       initialization is complete.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Discovery state prior to transmitting

>>> the
>>>          first Discovery Request message (see Section 5.1).  Upon
>>>          entering this state, the WTP sets the DiscoveryInterval
timer
>>>          (see Section 4.7).  The WTP resets the DiscoveryCount
counter
>>>          to zero (0) (see Section 4.8).  The WTP also clears all
>>>          information from ACs it may have received during a previous
>>>          Discovery phase.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This state transition is executed by the AC's Listener
>>>          thread, and occurs when a Discovery Request message is
>>>          received.  The AC SHOULD respond with a Discovery Response
>>>          message (see Section 5.2).  The AC SHOULD NOT maintain WTP
>>>          state at this point (see Section 12 for more information).
>>>
>>>    Discovery to Discovery (2):  In the Discovery state, the WTP
>>>       determines which AC to connect to.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This transition occurs when the DiscoveryInterval timer
>>>          expires.  If the WTP is configured with a list of ACs, it
>>>          transmits a Discovery Request message to every AC from
which 
>>> it
>>>          has not received a Discovery Response message.  For every
>>>          transition to this event, the WTP increments the 
>>> DiscoveryCount
>>>          counter.  See Section 5.1 for more information on how the
WTP
>>>          knows the ACs to which it should transmit the Discovery 
>>> Request
>>>          messages.  The WTP restarts the DiscoveryInterval timer
>>>          whenever it transmits Discovery Request messages.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>>>
>>>    Discovery to Idle (0):  This transition occurs on the AC's
Listener
>>>       thread when the Discovery processing is complete.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This state transition is executed by the AC's Listener 
>>> thread
>>>          when it has transmitted the Discovery Response, in response

>>> to
>>>          a Discovery Request.
>>>
>>>    Discovery to Sulking (3):  This transition occurs on a WTP when
AC
>>>       Discovery fails.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when the DiscoveryInterval
timer
>>>          expires and the DiscoveryCount variable is equal to the
>>>          MaxDiscoveries variable (see Section 4.8).  Upon entering 
>>> this
>>>          state, the WTP MUST start the SilentInterval timer.  While
in
>>>          the Sulking state, all received CAPWAP protocol messages
>>>          received MUST be ignored.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>>>
>>>    Sulking to Idle (4):  This transition occurs on a WTP when it
must
>>>       restart the discovery phase.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when the SilentInterval timer 
>>> (see
>>>          Section 4.7) expires.  The FailedDTLSSessionCount,
>>>          DiscoveryCount and FailedDTLSAuthFailCount counters are
reset
>>>          to zero.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>>>
>>>    Sulking to Sulking (a):  The Sulking state provides the silent
>>>       period, minimizing the possibility for Denial of Service (DoS)
>>>       attacks.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  All packets received from the AC while in the sulking 
>>> state
>>>          are ignored.
>>>
>>>       AC:  All packets receive from the WTP on the AC's Service 
>>> thread,
>>>          while in the sulking state, are ignored.
>>>
>>>    Sulking to Dead (b):  This transition occurs on the AC when the 
>>> quiet
>>>       period expires.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
>>>
>>>       AC:  The AC enters this state when the SilentInterval timer
(see
>>>          Section 4.7) expires.  The AC must clean up all resources
>>>          associated with the control plane DTLS session.  The data 
>>> plane
>>>          DTLS session is also shutdown, and all resources freed, if
a
>>>          DTLS session was established for the data plane.  Any
timers
>>>          set for the current instance of the state machine are also
>>>          cleared.  The AC's Service thread is terminated.
>>>
>>>    Idle to DTLS Setup (c):  This transition occurs to establish a 
>>> secure
>>>       DTLS session with the peer.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP initiates this transition by invoking the 
>>> DTLSStart
>>>          command, which starts the DTLS session establishment with
the
>>>          chosen AC.  When the discovery phase is bypassed, it is 
>>> assumed
>>>          the WTP has locally configured ACs.
>>>
>>>       AC:  The AC initiates this transition by invoking the
DTLSListen
>>>          command (see Section 2.3.2.1), which informs the DTLS stack
>>>          that it is willing to listen for an incoming session.  The 
>>> AC's
>>>          Listener thread forks an instance of the Service thread, 
>>> along
>>>          with a copy of the state context.  If the AC had maintained

>>> WTP
>>>          state information during the Discovery exchange, or through
>>>          some other means that may include static configuration of 
>>> WTPs,
>>>          the AC MAY provide optional qualifiers in the DTLSListen
>>>          command to only accept session requests a specific WTP.
Note
>>>          that the AC SHOULD NOT maintain state information based on
an
>>>          unsecured Discovery Request message, as this can lead to a
>>>          Denial of Service attack (see Section 12).  In such 
>>> instances,
>>>          the AC MUST ensure that this state information is freed
after
>> 
>>> a
>>>          period, which is implementation specific.
>>>
>>>    Discovery to DTLS Setup (5):  This transition occurs to establish
a
>>>       secure DTLS session with the peer.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP initiates this transition by invoking the 
>>> DTLSStart
>>>          command (see Section 2.3.2.1), which starts the DTLS
session
>>>          establishment with the chosen AC.  The decision of which AC

>>> to
>>>          connect to is the result of the discovery phase, which is
>>>          described in Section 3.3.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>>>
>>>    DTLS Setup to Idle (6):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>>>       connection setup has failed.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP initiates this state transition when it receives
a
>>>          DTLSEstablishFail notification from DTLS (see Section 
>>> 2.3.2.2),
>>>          and the FailedDTLSSessionCount or the
FailedDTLSAuthFailCount
>>>          counter have not reached the value of the
>>>          MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section 4.8).  This
>>>          error notification aborts the secure DTLS session
>>>          establishment.  When this notification is received, the
>>>          FailedDTLSSessionCount counter is incremented.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>>>
>>>    DTLS Setup to Sulking (d):  This transition occurs when repeated
>>>       attempts to setup the DTLS connection have failed.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when the
FailedDTLSSessionCount 
>>> or
>>>          the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount counter reaches the value of
the
>>>          MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section 4.8).  Upon
>>>          entering this state, the WTP MUST start the SilentInterval
>>>          timer.  While in the Sulking state, all received CAPWAP and
>>>          DTLS protocol messages received MUST be ignored.
>>>
>>>       AC:  The AC enters this state with the specific WTP when the
>>>          FailedDTLSSessionCount or the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount
counter
>>>          reaches MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section
4.8).
>>>          Upon entering this state, the AC's Service thread MUST
start
>>>          the SilentInterval timer, and ignore all CAPWAP and DTLS
>>>          protocol messages received from the WTP.  The AC
immediately
>>>          transitions the state to Idle.
>>>
>>>    DTLS Setup to DTLS Setup (e):  This transition occurs when the
DTLS
>>>       Session failed to be established.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
>>>
>>>       AC:  The AC initiates this state transition by the Service 
>>> thread
>>>          when it receives a DTLSEstablishFail notification from DTLS
>>>          (see Section 2.3.2.2).  This error notification aborts the
>>>          secure DTLS session establishment.  When this notification
is
>>>          received, the FailedDTLSSessionCount counter is
incremented.
>>>
>>>    DTLS Setup to Authorize (f):  This transition occurs when an 
>>> incoming
>>>       DTLS session is being established, and the DTLS stack needs
>>>       authorization to proceed with the session establishment.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives the
>>>          DTLSPeerAuthorize notification (see Section 2.3.2.2).  Upon
>>>          entering this state, the WTP performs an authorization
check
>>>          against the AC credentials.  See Section 2.4.4 for more
>>>          information on AC authorization.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the
>>>          DTLSPeerAuthorize notification (see Section 2.3.2.2).  Upon
>>>          entering this state, the AC performs an authorization check
>>>          against the WTP credentials.  See Section 2.4.4 for more
>>>          information on WTP authorization.
>>>
>>>    Authorize to DTLS Connect (g):  This transition occurs to notify 
>>> the
>>>       DTLS stack that the session should be established.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP has
successfully
>>>          authorized the AC's credentials (see Section 2.4.4).  This
is
>>>          done by invoking the DTLSAccept DTLS command (see
>>>          Section 2.3.2.1).
>>>
>>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC has successfully
>>>          authorized the WTP's credentials (see Section 2.4.4).  This

>>> is
>>>          done by invoking the DTLSAccept DTLS command (see
>>>          Section 2.3.2.1).
>>>
>>>    Authorize to DTLS Teardown (h):  This transition occurs to notify

>>> the
>>>       DTLS stack that the session should be aborted.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP was unable to
>>>          authorize the AC, using the AC credentials.  The WTP then
>>>          aborts the DTLS session by invoking the DTLSAbortSession
>>>          command (see Section 2.3.2.1).
>>>
>>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC was unable to
>>>          authorize the WTP, using the WTP credentials.  The AC then
>>>          aborts the DTLS session by invoking the DTLSAbortSession
>>>          command (see Section 2.3.2.1).
>>>
>>>    DTLS Connect to DTLS Teardown (7):  This transition occurs when
the
>>>       DTLS Session failed to be established.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives
either 
>>> a
>>>          DTLSAborted or DTLSAuthenticateFail notification (see
>>>          Section 2.3.2.2), indicating that the DTLS session was not
>>>          successfully established.  When this transition occurs due
to
>>>          the DTLSAuthenticateFail notification, the
>>>          FailedDTLSAuthFailCount is incremented, otherwise the
>>>          FailedDTLSSessionCount counter is incremented.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>>>
>>>    DTLS Connect to DTLS Setup (i):  This transition occurs when the 
>>> DTLS
>>>       Session failed to be established.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives either
a
>>>          DTLSAborted or DTLSAuthenticateFail notification (see
>>>          Section 2.3.2.2), indicating that the DTLS session was not
>>>          successfully established, and both of the
>>>          FailedDTLSAuthFailCount and FailedDTLSSessionCount counters
>>>          have not reached the value of the MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry
>>>          variable (see Section 4.8).
>>>
>>>    DTLS Connect to Dead (j):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>>>       Session failed to be established.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives either
a
>>>          DTLSAborted or DTLSAuthenticateFail notification (see
>>>          Section 2.3.2.2), indicating that the DTLS session was not
>>>          successfully established, and either the
>>>          FailedDTLSAuthFailCount and FailedDTLSSessionCount counters
>>>          have reached the value of the MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry
>>>          variable (see Section 4.8).
>>>
>>>    DTLS Connect to Join (k):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>>>       Session is successfully established.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives the
>>>          DTLSEstablished notification (see Section 2.3.2.2), 
>>> indicating
>>>          that the DTLS session was successfully established.  
>>> When this
>>>          notification is received, the FailedDTLSSessionCount
counter 
>>> is
>>>          set to zero.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the
>>>          DTLSEstablished notification (see Section 2.3.2.2), 
>>> indicating
>>>          that the DTLS session was successfully established.  
>>> When this
>>>          notification is received, the FailedDTLSSessionCount
counter 
>>> is
>>>          set to zero, and the WaitJoin timer is started (see
>>>          Section 4.7).
>>>
>>>    Join to DTLS Teardown (l):  This transition occurs when the join
>>>       process failed.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives a
Join
>>>          Response message with a Result Code message element 
>>> containing
>>>          an error, if the Image Identifier provided by the AC in the
>>>          Join Response message differs from the WTP's currently 
>>> running
>>>          firmware version and the WTP has the requested image in its
>>>          non-volatile memory, or if the WaitDTLS timer expires.
This
>>>          causes the WTP to initiate the DTLSShutdown command (see
>>>          Section 2.3.2.1).  This transition also occurs if the WTP
>>>          receives one of the following DTLS notifications: 
>>> DTLSAborted,
>>>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This state transition occurs either if the WaitJoin timer
>>>          expires or if the AC transmits a Join Response message with
a
>>>          Result Code message element containing an error.  This
causes
>>>          the AC to initiate the DTLSShutdown command (see
>>>          Section 2.3.2.1).  This transition also occurs if the AC
>>>          receives one of the following DTLS notifications: 
>>> DTLSAborted,
>>>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect.
>>>
>>>    Join to Image Data (m):  This state transition is used by the WTP

>>> and
>>>       the AC to download executable firmware.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Image Data state when it receives a
>>>          successful Join Response message and determines and the
>>>          included Image Identifier message element is not the same
as
>>>          its currently running image.  The WTP also detects that the
>>>          requested image version is not currently available in the 
>>> WTP's
>>>          non-volatile storage (see Section 9.1 for a full
description 
>>> of
>>>          the firmware download process).  The WTP initializes the
>>>          EchoInterval timer (see Section 4.7), and transmits the
Image
>>>          Data Request message (see Section 9.1.1) requesting the
start
>>>          of the firmware download.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the
Image
>>>          Data Request message from the WTP.  The AC MUST transmit an
>>>          Image Data Response message (see Section 9.1.2) to the WTP,
>>>          which includes a portion of the firmware.  The AC MUST
start
>>>          the ImageDataStartTimer timer (see Section 4.7).
>>>
>>>    Join to Configure (n):  This state transition is used by the WTP 
>>> and
>>>       the AC to exchange configuration information.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Configure state when it receives a
>>>          successful Join Response, and determines that the included
>>>          Image Identifier message element is the same as its
currently
>>>          running image.  The WTP transmits the Configuration Status
>>>          message (see Section 8.2) to the AC with message elements
>>>          describing its current configuration.  The WTP also starts 
>>> the
>>>          ResponseTimeout timer (see Section 4.7).
>>>
>>>       AC:  This state transition occurs immediately after the AC
>>>          transmits the Join Response message to the WTP.  If the AC
>>>          receives the Configuration Status message from the WTP, the

>>> AC
>>>          MUST transmit a Configuration Status Response message (see
>>>          Section 8.3) to the WTP, and MAY include specific message
>>>          elements to override the WTP's configuration.  The AC also
>>>          starts the ChangeStatePendingTimer timer (see Section 4.7).
>>>
>>>    Configure to Reset (o):  This state transition is used to reset
the
>>>       connection either due to an error during the configuration 
>>> phase,
>>>       or when the WTP determines it needs to reset in order for the 
>>> new
>>>       configuration to take effect.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Reset state when it receives a
>>>          Configuration Status Response indicating an error or when
it
>>>          determines that a reset of the WTP is required, due to the
>>>          characteristics of a new configuration.
>>>
>>>       AC:  The AC transitions to the Reset state when it receives a
>>>          Change State Event message from the WTP that contains an 
>>> error
>>>          for which AC policy does not permit the WTP to provide 
>>> service.
>>>          This state transition also occurs when the AC
>>>          ChangeStatePendingTimer timer expires.
>>>
>>>    Configure to DTLS Teardown (p):  This transition occurs when the
>>>       configuration process aborts due to a DTLS error.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives one of the
>>>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>>>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>>>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS session
if 
>>> it
>>>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.
>>>
>>>       AC:  The AC enters this state when it receives one of the
>>>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>>>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>>>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS session
if 
>>> it
>>>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.
>>>
>>>    Image Data to Image Data (q):  The Image Data state is used by
the
>>>       WTP and the AC during the firmware download phase.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Image Data state when it receives an
>>>          Image Data Response message indicating that the AC has more
>>>          data to send.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the
Image
>>>          Data Request message from the WTP while already in the
Image
>>>          Data state.  The AC resets the ImageDataStartTimer timer.
>>>
>>>    Image Data to Reset (r):  This state transition is used to reset 
>>> the
>>>       DTLS connection prior to restarting the WTP after an image
>>>       download.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  When an image download completes, the WTP enters the
Reset
>>>          state.  The WTP MAY also transition to this state upon
>>>          receiving an Image Data Response message from the AC (see
>>>          Section 9.1.2) indicating a failure.
>>>
>>>       AC:  The AC enters the Reset state when an error occurs during

>>> the
>>>          image download process or if the ImageDataStartTimer timer
>>>          expires.
>>>
>>>    Image Data to DTLS Teardown (s):  This transition occurs when the
>>>       firmware download process aborts due to a DTLS error.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives one of the
>>>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>>>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>>>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS session
if 
>>> it
>>>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.
>>>
>>>       AC:  The AC enters this state when it receives one of the
>>>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>>>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>>>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS session
if 
>>> it
>>>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.
>>>
>>>    Configure to Data Check (t):  This state transition occurs when
the
>>>       WTP and AC confirm the configuration.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives a successful
>>>          Configuration Status Response message from the AC.  The WTP
>>>          initializes the EchoInterval timer (see Section 4.7), and
>>>          transmits the Change State Event Request message (see
>>>          Section 8.6).
>>>
>>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the 
>>> Change
>>>          State Event Request message (see Section 8.6) from the WTP.
>>>          The AC responds with a Change State Event Response message 
>>> (see
>>>          Section 8.7).  The AC MUST start the DataCheckTimer timer 
>>> (see
>>>          Section 4.7).
>>>
>>>    Data Check to DTLS Teardown (u):  This transition occurs when the

>>> WTP
>>>       does not complete the Data Check exchange.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs if the WTP does not receive

>>> the
>>>          Change State Event Response before a CAPWAP transmission
>>>          timeout occurs.
>>>
>>>       AC:  The AC enters this state when the DataCheckTimer timer
>>>          expires (see Section 4.7).
>>>
>>>    Data Check to Run (V):  This state transition occurs when the 
>>> linkage
>>>       between the control and data channels has occured, causing the

>>> WTP
>>>       and AC to enter their normal state of operation.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives a successful
>>>          Change State Event Response message from the AC.  The WTP
>>>          initiates the data channel, which MAY require the 
>>> establishment
>>>          of a DTLS session, starts the DataChannelKeepAlive timer
(see
>>>          Section 4.7) and transmits a Data Channel Keep Alive packet
>>>          (see Section 4.4.1).  The WTP then starts the
>>>          DataChannelDeadInterval timer (see Section 4.7).
>>>
>>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC receives the
Data
>>>          Channel Keep Alive packet (see Section 4.4.1), with a
Session
>>>          ID message element matching that included by the WTP in the
>>>          Join Request message.  The AC disables the DataCheckTimer
>>>          timer.  Note that if AC policy is to require the data
channel
>>>          to be encrypted, this process would also require the
>>>          establishment of a data channel DTLS session.  Upon
receiving
>>>          the Data Channel Keep Alive packet, the AC transmits its
own
>>>          Data Channel Keep Alive packet.
>>>
>>>    Run to DTLS Teardown (w):  This state transition occurs when an 
>>> error
>>>       has occured in the DTLS stack, causing the DTLS session to be
>>>       torndown.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when it receives one of the
>>>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>>>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>>>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS session
if 
>>> it
>>>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.  
>>> The WTP also
>>>          transitions to this state if the underlying reliable
>>>          transport's RetransmitCount counter has reached the
>>>          MaxRetransmit variable (see Section 4.7).
>>>
>>>       AC:  The AC enters this state when it receives one of the
>>>          following DTLS notifications: DTLSAborted,
>>>          DTLSReassemblyFailure or DTLSPeerDisconnect (see
>>>          Section 2.3.2.2).  The WTP MAY tear down the DTLS session
if 
>>> it
>>>          receives frequent DTLSDecapFailure notifications.  The AC
>>>          transitions to this state if the underlying reliable
>>>          transport's RetransmitCount counter has reached the
>>>          MaxRetransmit variable (see Section 4.7).
>>>
>>>    Run to Run (x):  This is the normal state of operation.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This is the WTP's normal state of operation.  
>>> There are many
>>>          events that result this state transition:
>>>
>>>          Configuration Update:  The WTP receives a Configuration 
>>> Update
>>>             Request message(see Section 8.4).  The WTP MUST respond 
>>> with
>>>             a Configuration Update Response message (see Section
8.5).
>>>
>>>          Change State Event:  The WTP receives a Change State Event
>>>             Response message, or determines that it must initiate a
>>>             Change State Event Request message, as a result of a 
>>> failure
>>>             or change in the state of a radio.
>>>
>>>          Echo Request:  The WTP sends an Echo Request message
>>>             (Section 7.1) or receives the corresponding Echo
Response
>>>             message, (see Section 7.2) from the AC.
>>>
>>>          Clear Config Request:  The WTP receives a Clear
Configuration
>>>             Request message (see Section 8.8).  The WTP MUST reset
its
>>>             configuration back to manufacturer defaults.
>>>
>>>          WTP Event:  The WTP sends a WTP Event Request message,
>>>             delivering information to the AC (see Section 9.4).  The

>>> WTP
>>>             receives a WTP Event Response message from the AC (see
>>>             Section 9.5).
>>>
>>>          Data Transfer:  The WTP sends a Data Transfer Request
message
>>>             to the AC (see Section 9.6).  The WTP receives a Data
>>>             Transfer Response message from the AC (see Section 9.7).
>>>
>>>          Station Configuration Request:  The WTP receives a Station
>>>             Configuration Request message (see Section 10.1), to
which
>>>             it MUST respond with a Station Configuration Response
>>>             message (see Section 10.2).
>>>
>>>       AC:  This is the AC's normal state of operation:
>>>
>>>          Configuration Update:  The AC sends a Configuration Update
>>>             Request message (see Section 8.4) to the WTP to update
its
>>>             configuration.  The AC receives a Configuration Update
>>>             Response message (see Section 8.5) from the WTP.
>>>
>>>          Change State Event:  The AC receives a Change State Event
>>>             Request message (see Section 8.6), to which it MUST 
>>> respond
>>>             with the Change State Event Response message (see
>>>             Section 8.7).
>>>
>>>          Echo Request:  The AC receives an Echo Request message (see
>>>             Section 7.1), to which it MUST respond with an Echo 
>>> Response
>>>             message(see Section 7.2).
>>>
>>>          Clear Config Response:  The AC receives a Clear
Configuration
>>>             Response message from the WTP (see Section 8.9).
>>>
>>>          WTP Event:  The AC receives a WTP Event Request message
from
>>>             the WTP (see Section 9.4) and MUST generate a 
>>> corresponding
>>>             WTP Event Response message (see Section 9.5).
>>>
>>>          Data Transfer:  The AC receives a Data Transfer Request 
>>> message
>>>             from the WTP (see Section 9.6) and MUST generate a
>>>             corresponding Data Transfer Response message (see
>>>             Section 9.7).
>>>
>>>          Station Configuration Request:  The AC sends a Station
>>>             Configuration Request message (see Section 10.1) or 
>>> receives
>>>             the corresponding Station Configuration Response message
>>>             (see Section 10.2) from the WTP.
>>>
>>>    Run to Reset (y):  This state transition is used when either the
AC
>>>       or WTP tear down the connection.  This may occur as part of 
>>> normal
>>>       operation, or due to error conditions.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP enters the Reset state when it receives a Reset
>>>          Request message from the AC.
>>>
>>>       AC:  The AC enters the Reset state when it transmits a Reset
>>>          Request message to the WTP.
>>>
>>>    Reset to DTLS Teardown (z):  This transition occurs when the
CAPWAP
>>>       reset is complete, to terminate the DTLS session.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP receives a
Reset
>>>          Response message.  This causes the WTP to initiate the
>>>          DTLSShutdown command (see Section 2.3.2.1).
>>>
>>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC transmits a
Reset
>>>          Response message.  The AC does not invoke the DTLSShutdown
>>>          command (see Section 2.3.2.1).
>>>
>>>    DTLS Teardown to Idle (8):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>>>       session has been shutdown.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP has
successfully
>>>          cleaned up all resources associated with the control plane 
>>> DTLS
>>>          session.  The data plane DTLS session is also shutdown, and

>>> all
>>>          resources freed, if a DTLS session was established for the 
>>> data
>>>          plane.  Any timers set for the current instance of the
state
>>>          machine are also cleared.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>>>
>>>    DTLS Teardown to Sulking (9):  This transition occurs when
repeated
>>>       attempts to setup the DTLS connection have failed.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  The WTP enters this state when the
FailedDTLSSessionCount 
>>> or
>>>          the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount counter reaches the value of
the
>>>          MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section 4.8).  Upon
>>>          entering this state, the WTP MUST start the SilentInterval
>>>          timer.  While in the Sulking state, all received CAPWAP and
>>>          DTLS protocol messages received MUST be ignored.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
>>>
>>>    DTLS Teardown to Dead (~):  This transition occurs when the DTLS
>>>       session has been shutdown.
>>>
>>>       WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.
>>>
>>>       AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC has successfully
>>>          cleaned up all resources associated with the control plane 
>>> DTLS
>>>          session.  The data plane DTLS session is also shutdown, and

>>> all
>>>          resources freed, if a DTLS session was established for the 
>>> data
>>>          plane.  Any timers set for the current instance of the
state
>>>          machine are also cleared.  The AC's Service thread is
>>>          terminated.
>>>
>>> 12.3.  Discovery Attacks
>>> [...]
>>>    Some implementations may wish to pass information about clients
who
>>>    have passed the discovery phase to the DTLS layer, authorizing
only
>>>    those clients to initiate a DTLS handshake.  Note that the impact

>>> of
>>>    this on mitigating denial of service attacks against the DTLS
layer
>>>    is minimal, because DTLS already uses client-side cookies to 
>>> minimize
>>>    processor consumption attacks.  As a result, implementations
SHOULD
>>>    NOT maintain state between the discovery and DTLS handshake
phases 
>>> of
>>>    the CAPWAP protocol initialization.
>>>
>>> </text>
>>>
>>> PatC
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:17 AM
>>> To: capwap
>>> Subject: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking on AC prior
to
>> 
>>> DTLSEstablishment
>>>
>>> I wanted to provide a follow-up based on the conversation during the

>>> meeting yesterday. The issue that is being raised in this issue is 
>>> that the state machine doesn't really work well on the AC. There is 
>>> text that states that the AC has a different "state context" per
WTP, 
>>> but right now this would require that the AC maintains state during 
>>> the discovery, etc. However, we have all agreed that the AC should
not
>> 
>>> have to do so.
>>> So we agreed that we needed to provide more clarity on the state 
>>> machine that allows for the AC to provide services such as
responding 
>>> to Discovery Requests, without explicitely maintaining per WTP
state.
>>>  
>>> I am working on modifications to the state machine, and expect to
have
>> 
>>> this sent to the list later today.
>>>  
>>> PatC
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Created issue 32.
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From: Puneet Agarwal [mailto:pagarwal@broadcom.com]=20
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 10:17 PM
To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)
Cc: capwap
Subject: [Capwap] comments on -08 base draft and .11binding-05 draft


Hi Pat,
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1) In section 4.3 of -08 draft, the "Wireless Specific Information"
optional field has an 8-bit "Wireless ID" field. There is a similar 5
bit WBID field in the main capwap header (in the first 32 bits). Are the
two same? If the two are the same, then we should delete the "Wireless
ID" in the "Wireless Specific Information" optional header.
=20
2) The "Wireless Specific Information" field for .11 is described in
section 4 of the -05 .11 binding spec. Does the text in section 4 "IEEE
802.11 Frame Info" describe the "data" part of the "Wireless Specific
Information" in the base spec? If so, then we should clarify this in the
-05 .11 spec.
=20
3) The base spec requires that the optional elements be 4 byte aligned.
The "Wireless Specific Information" field has 2 bytes of "Wireless ID" +
"Length which means that the "Data" part should be 2, 6, 10 etc in
length. However the .11 spec only defines a 4 byte "Data" part (see 2
above) which does not meet the alignment requirements. We should change
the .11 binding spec and make the "Data" 6 bytes in length with the last
2 bytes being reserved.
=20
Thanks.
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-Puneet

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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D759255320-16122007><FONT =
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> Puneet Agarwal=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D254165205-15122007>Hi=20
Pat,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=3D254165205-15122007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D254165205-15122007>1) In =
section 4.3 of=20
-08 draft, the "Wireless Specific Information" optional field has an =
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"Wireless ID" field. There is a similar 5 bit WBID field in the main =
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header (in the first 32 bits). Are the two same? If the&nbsp;two are the =
same,=20
then we should delete the "Wireless ID" in the "Wireless Specific =
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optional header.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D254165205-15122007>2) The =
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Specific Information" field for .11 is described in section 4 of the -05 =
.11=20
binding spec. Does the text in section 4 "IEEE 802.11 Frame Info" =
describe the=20
"data" part of the "Wireless Specific Information" in the base spec? If =
so, then=20
we should clarify this in the -05 .11 spec.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=3D254165205-15122007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D254165205-15122007>3) The =
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"Wireless=20
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means=20
that the "Data" part should be 2, 6, 10 etc in length. However the .11 =
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in length with the last 2 bytes being reserved.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=3D254165205-15122007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D254165205-15122007>Thanks.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D254165205-15122007></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Hi Pat,

pcalhou wrote:
>If the issue is with Sulking, we can fix that. I'm open the making
>necessary changes to avoid security vulnerabilities. We can remove the
>Sulking state our of the DTLS Setup/Connect states, although there
>really is no perfect world here. Either you are open to constantly
>processing invalid connect setup requests, or you disable this for a
>period of time from a given IP address. I understand the consequences,
>but it is a decision that an implementer needs to make. If we decide
>that rate limiting is the way to go, I'm ok with that too (and this
>could cause the same effect as the current text, btw).
>
>That said, I think that the state machine clearly shows how one *could*
>implement the state machine. It does not limit how an implementer can,
>but I believe it provides the right guidance, and really helps
>understand how the AC should work. There was text previously, but
>frankly, it was hard to understand. Further, we opted to make a "SHOULD
>NOT" for maintaining state, but that means that while one SHOULD NOT,
>one can if they want to. So the state machine must allow for that. I
>believe it does now, and an implementer is free to choose whether he/she
>wants to or not.

First, regarding sulking: as currently worded/defined, if I can spoof (unauthenticated) packets from a client, I can cause that client to be locked out, _even if it already has a valid DTLS session_. This is bad. It would be much better if it only prevented initiation of new handshakes for a limited period, but I'm not sure if the complexity is justified. Rate-limiting plus admin alerts seems like a simpler strategy.

Second, regarding the state machine documentation, I don't think we have any precedent for detailing how to implement "SHOULD NOT" features in an RFC. "SHOULD NOT" means "don't try this at home, kiddies", and I don't think the IESG would agree that the state machine should document how to "allow" for things we are saying you SHOULD NOT implement.
 
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The current spec clearly states:

12.3.  Discovery Attacks

   Since the Discovery Request messages are sent in the clear, it is
   important that AC implementations NOT assume that receiving such a
   request from a WTP implies that it has rebooted, and consequently
   tear down any active DTLS sessions.

We can expand this text to include the initiation of DTLS sessions.

PatC 

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott G. Kelly [mailto:s.kelly@ix.netcom.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 11:12 AM
To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou); Charles Clancy; capwap
Subject: RE: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking onAC
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Hi Pat,

pcalhou wrote:
>If the issue is with Sulking, we can fix that. I'm open the making 
>necessary changes to avoid security vulnerabilities. We can remove the 
>Sulking state our of the DTLS Setup/Connect states, although there 
>really is no perfect world here. Either you are open to constantly 
>processing invalid connect setup requests, or you disable this for a 
>period of time from a given IP address. I understand the consequences, 
>but it is a decision that an implementer needs to make. If we decide 
>that rate limiting is the way to go, I'm ok with that too (and this 
>could cause the same effect as the current text, btw).
>
>That said, I think that the state machine clearly shows how one *could*

>implement the state machine. It does not limit how an implementer can, 
>but I believe it provides the right guidance, and really helps 
>understand how the AC should work. There was text previously, but 
>frankly, it was hard to understand. Further, we opted to make a "SHOULD

>NOT" for maintaining state, but that means that while one SHOULD NOT, 
>one can if they want to. So the state machine must allow for that. I 
>believe it does now, and an implementer is free to choose whether 
>he/she wants to or not.

First, regarding sulking: as currently worded/defined, if I can spoof
(unauthenticated) packets from a client, I can cause that client to be
locked out, _even if it already has a valid DTLS session_. This is bad.
It would be much better if it only prevented initiation of new
handshakes for a limited period, but I'm not sure if the complexity is
justified. Rate-limiting plus admin alerts seems like a simpler
strategy.

Second, regarding the state machine documentation, I don't think we have
any precedent for detailing how to implement "SHOULD NOT" features in an
RFC. "SHOULD NOT" means "don't try this at home, kiddies", and I don't
think the IESG would agree that the state machine should document how to
"allow" for things we are saying you SHOULD NOT implement.
 
Scott
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Hi Pat,

-----Original Message-----
>From: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" <pcalhoun@cisco.com>
>Sent: Dec 17, 2007 3:45 PM
>To: "Scott G. Kelly" <scott@hyperthought.com>, Charles Clancy <clancy@cs.umd.edu>, capwap <capwap@frascone.com>
>Subject: RE: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking onAC	priortoDTLSEstablishment
>
>The current spec clearly states:
>
>12.3.  Discovery Attacks
>
>   Since the Discovery Request messages are sent in the clear, it is
>   important that AC implementations NOT assume that receiving such a
>   request from a WTP implies that it has rebooted, and consequently
>   tear down any active DTLS sessions.
>
>We can expand this text to include the initiation of DTLS sessions.
>

Yes, the current text does preclude entering sulking state based on discovery messages. That's good. However, the proposed text says

   DTLS Setup to Sulking (d):  This transition occurs when repeated
      attempts to setup the DTLS connection have failed.
                :
                :
      AC:  The AC enters this state with the specific WTP when the
         FailedDTLSSessionCount or the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount counter
         reaches MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section 4.8).
         Upon entering this state, the AC's Service thread MUST start
         the SilentInterval timer, and ignore all CAPWAP and DTLS
         protocol messages received from the WTP.  The AC immediately
         transitions the state to Idle.

This implies that if dtls session setup is spoofed, any active (valid!) sessions will be effectively disconnected, and (valid!) WTP recovery attempts will be ignored. If the attacker re-does this attack each time the SilentInterval (default: 30 seconds) expires, valid WTPs can be prevented from reconnecting indefinitely. This is the unauthenticated DoS I was referring to.

--Scott



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I'm happy to change this by simply adding text that you feel adequately
protects the AC from a flooding attack.

Could you provide some, and I can remove the (d) transition for the AC.

PatC 

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott G. Kelly [mailto:s.kelly@ix.netcom.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 1:19 PM
To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou); Charles Clancy; capwap
Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state trackingonAC
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Hi Pat,

-----Original Message-----
>From: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" <pcalhoun@cisco.com>
>Sent: Dec 17, 2007 3:45 PM
>To: "Scott G. Kelly" <scott@hyperthought.com>, Charles Clancy
<clancy@cs.umd.edu>, capwap <capwap@frascone.com>
>Subject: RE: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking onAC
priortoDTLSEstablishment
>
>The current spec clearly states:
>
>12.3.  Discovery Attacks
>
>   Since the Discovery Request messages are sent in the clear, it is
>   important that AC implementations NOT assume that receiving such a
>   request from a WTP implies that it has rebooted, and consequently
>   tear down any active DTLS sessions.
>
>We can expand this text to include the initiation of DTLS sessions.
>

Yes, the current text does preclude entering sulking state based on
discovery messages. That's good. However, the proposed text says

   DTLS Setup to Sulking (d):  This transition occurs when repeated
      attempts to setup the DTLS connection have failed.
                :
                :
      AC:  The AC enters this state with the specific WTP when the
         FailedDTLSSessionCount or the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount counter
         reaches MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section 4.8).
         Upon entering this state, the AC's Service thread MUST start
         the SilentInterval timer, and ignore all CAPWAP and DTLS
         protocol messages received from the WTP.  The AC immediately
         transitions the state to Idle.

This implies that if dtls session setup is spoofed, any active (valid!)
sessions will be effectively disconnected, and (valid!) WTP recovery
attempts will be ignored. If the attacker re-does this attack each time
the SilentInterval (default: 30 seconds) expires, valid WTPs can be
prevented from reconnecting indefinitely. This is the unauthenticated
DoS I was referring to.

--Scott



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> 1) In section 4.3 of -08 draft, the "Wireless Specific Information"
optional field has an 8-bit "Wireless ID" field. 
> There is a similar 5 bit WBID field in the main capwap header (in the
first 32 bits). Are the two same? If the two are > the same, then we
should delete the "Wireless ID" in the "Wireless Specific Information"
optional header.
Yes, I agree with this change.
 
> 2) The "Wireless Specific Information" field for .11 is described in
section 4 of the -05 .11 binding spec. Does the 
> text in section 4 "IEEE 802.11 Frame Info" describe the "data" part of
the "Wireless Specific Information" in the base 
> spec? If so, then we should clarify this in the -05 .11 spec.
Yes, I agree with this change.
 
> 3) The base spec requires that the optional elements be 4 byte
aligned. The "Wireless Specific Information" field has 2 
> bytes of "Wireless ID" + "Length which means that the "Data" part
should be 2, 6, 10 etc in length. However the .11 
> spec only defines a 4 byte "Data" part (see 2 above) which does not
meet the alignment requirements. We should change 
> the .11 binding spec and make the "Data" 6 bytes in length with the
last 2 bytes being reserved.
The CAPWAP spec already makes this very clear. Specifically, section 4.3
states:

"  Wireless Specific Information:  This optional field contains
      technology specific information that may be used to carry per
      packet wireless information.  This field is only present if the
      'W' bit is set.  The HLEN field assumes 4 byte alignment, and this
      field MUST be padded with zeroes (0x00) if it is not 4 byte
      aligned."

So I do not believe any additional changes are needed to address this.

Anyone disagree with the above?

PatC
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Hi All,

I wanted to thank Pat and Scott for collaborating on Issue 30 so far.
As for this last nagging point, somehow I imagine protecting an AC from
flooding attacks sounds easier said than done.   Do the security experts
out there on the list have any proposals on this remaining glitch so we
can close Issue 30?

I know this is a busy time with the holidays, so any help is very
appreciated!

Dorothy


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) [mailto:pcalhoun@cisco.com] 
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 3:02 PM
> To: Scott G. Kelly; Charles Clancy; capwap
> Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent 
> statetrackingonAC priortoDTLSEstablishment
> 
> I'm happy to change this by simply adding text that you feel 
> adequately protects the AC from a flooding attack.
> 
> Could you provide some, and I can remove the (d) transition 
> for the AC.
> 
> PatC 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott G. Kelly [mailto:s.kelly@ix.netcom.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 1:19 PM
> To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou); Charles Clancy; capwap
> Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state 
> trackingonAC priortoDTLSEstablishment
> 
> Hi Pat,
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" <pcalhoun@cisco.com>
> >Sent: Dec 17, 2007 3:45 PM
> >To: "Scott G. Kelly" <scott@hyperthought.com>, Charles Clancy
> <clancy@cs.umd.edu>, capwap <capwap@frascone.com>
> >Subject: RE: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking onAC
> priortoDTLSEstablishment
> >
> >The current spec clearly states:
> >
> >12.3.  Discovery Attacks
> >
> >   Since the Discovery Request messages are sent in the clear, it is
> >   important that AC implementations NOT assume that receiving such a
> >   request from a WTP implies that it has rebooted, and consequently
> >   tear down any active DTLS sessions.
> >
> >We can expand this text to include the initiation of DTLS sessions.
> >
> 
> Yes, the current text does preclude entering sulking state 
> based on discovery messages. That's good. However, the 
> proposed text says
> 
>    DTLS Setup to Sulking (d):  This transition occurs when repeated
>       attempts to setup the DTLS connection have failed.
>                 :
>                 :
>       AC:  The AC enters this state with the specific WTP when the
>          FailedDTLSSessionCount or the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount counter
>          reaches MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section 4.8).
>          Upon entering this state, the AC's Service thread MUST start
>          the SilentInterval timer, and ignore all CAPWAP and DTLS
>          protocol messages received from the WTP.  The AC immediately
>          transitions the state to Idle.
> 
> This implies that if dtls session setup is spoofed, any 
> active (valid!) sessions will be effectively disconnected, 
> and (valid!) WTP recovery attempts will be ignored. If the 
> attacker re-does this attack each time the SilentInterval 
> (default: 30 seconds) expires, valid WTPs can be prevented 
> from reconnecting indefinitely. This is the unauthenticated 
> DoS I was referring to.
> 
> --Scott
> 
> 
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Hi Pat,

Regarding # 3: I am OK with your resolution though it would not hurt to
state the padding requirements as an FYI in the -05 .11 spec.

Thanks.

-Puneet

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> 1) In section 4.3 of -08 draft, the "Wireless Specific Information"
optional field has an 8-bit "Wireless ID" field. 
> There is a similar 5 bit WBID field in the main capwap header (in the
first 32 bits). Are the two same? If the two are > the same, then we
should delete the "Wireless ID" in the "Wireless Specific Information"
optional header.
Yes, I agree with this change.
 
> 2) The "Wireless Specific Information" field for .11 is described in
section 4 of the -05 .11 binding spec. Does the 
> text in section 4 "IEEE 802.11 Frame Info" describe the "data" part of
the "Wireless Specific Information" in the base 
> spec? If so, then we should clarify this in the -05 .11 spec.
Yes, I agree with this change.
 
> 3) The base spec requires that the optional elements be 4 byte
aligned. The "Wireless Specific Information" field has 2 
> bytes of "Wireless ID" + "Length which means that the "Data" part
should be 2, 6, 10 etc in length. However the .11 
> spec only defines a 4 byte "Data" part (see 2 above) which does not
meet the alignment requirements. We should change 
> the .11 binding spec and make the "Data" 6 bytes in length with the
last 2 bytes being reserved.
The CAPWAP spec already makes this very clear. Specifically, section 4.3
states:

"  Wireless Specific Information:  This optional field contains
      technology specific information that may be used to carry per
      packet wireless information.  This field is only present if the
      'W' bit is set.  The HLEN field assumes 4 byte alignment, and this
      field MUST be padded with zeroes (0x00) if it is not 4 byte
      aligned."

So I do not believe any additional changes are needed to address this.

Anyone disagree with the above?

PatC


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Hi Dorothy,

Dealing with clogging attacks is fairly well understood, and the approach you take depends on various factors. As Pat said, there is no perfect solution. But there are solutions which minimize the effect on valid peers. 

Sulking, as currently defined, causes the AC to ignore *all* messages from a given IP, but what we actually want to do is to alleviate the DoS attack while still allowing normal operations. We can accomplish this by limiting the number of new DTLS handshakes the AC participates in. Ideally, we'd like valid WTPs to still be able to connect and/or use already-established sessions, and to suffer only a limited reduction in service as a result of the attack (or malfunction).

I provided suggested language for this as part of one of the transitions to "sulking" in a private email while we were at IETF a few weeks back. Here it is again, modified according to the edits Pat submitted to the list:


DTLS Setup to Sulking (d):  This transition occurs when repeated
   attempts to setup the DTLS connection have failed.

AC: This transition is a no-op for the AC. While the HelloVerifyRequest
  provides some protection against denial of service (DoS) attacks on 
  the AC, an adversary capable of receiving packets at a valid address 
  (or a malfunctioning or misconfigured WTP) may repeatedly attempt DTLS 
  handshakes with the AC, potentially creating a resource shortage. If 
  either the FailedDTLSSessionCount or the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount 
  counter reaches the value of MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see 
  Section 4.8), implementations MAY choose to rate-limit new DTLS handshakes
  for some period of time. It is RECOMMENDED that implementations choosing
  to implement rate limiting use a random discard technique, rather than
  mimicking the WTP's sulking behavior. This will ensure that messages 
  from valid WTPs will have some probability of eliciting a response,  
  even in the face of a significant DoS attack.

-------------------------

--Scott


-----Original Message-----
>From: Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com
>Sent: Dec 18, 2007 5:11 PM
>To: pcalhoun@cisco.com, scott@hyperthought.com, clancy@cs.umd.edu, capwap@frascone.com
>Subject: RE: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent statetrackingonAC	priortoDTLSEstablishment
>
>Hi All,
>
>I wanted to thank Pat and Scott for collaborating on Issue 30 so far.
>As for this last nagging point, somehow I imagine protecting an AC from
>flooding attacks sounds easier said than done.   Do the security experts
>out there on the list have any proposals on this remaining glitch so we
>can close Issue 30?
>
>I know this is a busy time with the holidays, so any help is very
>appreciated!
>
>Dorothy
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ext Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) [mailto:pcalhoun@cisco.com] 
>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 3:02 PM
>> To: Scott G. Kelly; Charles Clancy; capwap
>> Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent 
>> statetrackingonAC priortoDTLSEstablishment
>> 
>> I'm happy to change this by simply adding text that you feel 
>> adequately protects the AC from a flooding attack.
>> 
>> Could you provide some, and I can remove the (d) transition 
>> for the AC.
>> 
>> PatC 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Scott G. Kelly [mailto:s.kelly@ix.netcom.com]
>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 1:19 PM
>> To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou); Charles Clancy; capwap
>> Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state 
>> trackingonAC priortoDTLSEstablishment
>> 
>> Hi Pat,
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> >From: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" <pcalhoun@cisco.com>
>> >Sent: Dec 17, 2007 3:45 PM
>> >To: "Scott G. Kelly" <scott@hyperthought.com>, Charles Clancy
>> <clancy@cs.umd.edu>, capwap <capwap@frascone.com>
>> >Subject: RE: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking onAC
>> priortoDTLSEstablishment
>> >
>> >The current spec clearly states:
>> >
>> >12.3.  Discovery Attacks
>> >
>> >   Since the Discovery Request messages are sent in the clear, it is
>> >   important that AC implementations NOT assume that receiving such a
>> >   request from a WTP implies that it has rebooted, and consequently
>> >   tear down any active DTLS sessions.
>> >
>> >We can expand this text to include the initiation of DTLS sessions.
>> >
>> 
>> Yes, the current text does preclude entering sulking state 
>> based on discovery messages. That's good. However, the 
>> proposed text says
>> 
>>    DTLS Setup to Sulking (d):  This transition occurs when repeated
>>       attempts to setup the DTLS connection have failed.
>>                 :
>>                 :
>>       AC:  The AC enters this state with the specific WTP when the
>>          FailedDTLSSessionCount or the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount counter
>>          reaches MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section 4.8).
>>          Upon entering this state, the AC's Service thread MUST start
>>          the SilentInterval timer, and ignore all CAPWAP and DTLS
>>          protocol messages received from the WTP.  The AC immediately
>>          transitions the state to Idle.
>> 
>> This implies that if dtls session setup is spoofed, any 
>> active (valid!) sessions will be effectively disconnected, 
>> and (valid!) WTP recovery attempts will be ignored. If the 
>> attacker re-does this attack each time the SilentInterval 
>> (default: 30 seconds) expires, valid WTPs can be prevented 
>> from reconnecting indefinitely. This is the unauthenticated 
>> DoS I was referring to.
>> 
>> --Scott
>> 
>> 
>> 
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ok, sounds good. I have made the following changes to the previously
sent text. Note that I added text to the security considerations section
that handles the case you raised in another e-mail. I think we should
provide this additional guidance.

<new text>
2.3.1.  CAPWAP Protocol State Transitions
[...]
   Sulking to Sulking (a):  The Sulking state provides the silent
      period, minimizing the possibility for Denial of Service (DoS)
      attacks.

      WTP:  All packets received from the AC while in the sulking state
         are ignored.

      AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
[...]
   DTLS Setup to Sulking (d):  This transition occurs when repeated
      attempts to setup the DTLS connection have failed.
[...]

      AC:  This transition is a no-op for the AC.  While the
         HelloVerifyRequest provides some protection against denial of
         service (DoS) attacks on the AC, an adversary capable of
         receiving packets at a valid address (or a malfunctioning or
         misconfigured WTP) may repeatedly attempt DTLS handshakes with
         the AC, potentially creating a resource shortage.  If either
         the FailedDTLSSessionCount or the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount
         counter reaches the value of MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable
         (see Section 4.8), implementations MAY choose to rate-limit new
         DTLS handshakes for some period of time.  It is RECOMMENDED
         that implementations choosing to implement rate limiting use a
         random discard technique, rather than mimicking the WTP's
         sulking behavior.  This will ensure that messages from valid
         WTPs will have some probability of eliciting a response, even
         in the face of a significant DoS attack.

12.3.  Discovery or DTLS Setup Attacks

   Since the Discovery Request messages are sent in the clear, it is
   important that AC implementations NOT assume that receiving such a
   request from a WTP implies that it has rebooted, and consequently
   tear down any active DTLS sessions.  Discovery Request messages can
   easily be spoofed by malicious devices, so it is important that the
   AC maintain two separate sets of states for the WTP until the
   DTLSSessionEstablished notification is received, indicating that the
   WTP was authenticated.  Once a new DTLS session is successfully
   established, any state referring to the old session can be cleared.

   Similarly, entering the DTLS Setup phase SHOULD NOT assume that the
   WTP has reset, and therefore should not discard active state until
   the DTLS session has been successfully established.  While the
   HelloVerifyRequest provides some protection against denial of service
   (DoS) attacks on the AC, an adversary capable of receiving packets at
   a valid address (or a malfunctioning or misconfigured WTP) may
   repeatedly attempt DTLS handshakes with the AC, potentially creating
   a resource shortage.  If either the FailedDTLSSessionCount or the
   FailedDTLSAuthFailCount counter reaches the value of
   MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section 4.8), implementations
   MAY choose to rate-limit new DTLS handshakes for some period of time.
   It is RECOMMENDED that implementations choosing to implement rate
   limiting use a random discard technique, rather than mimicking the
   WTP's sulking behavior.  This will ensure that messages from valid
   WTPs will have some probability of eliciting a response, even in the
   face of a significant DoS attack.

   Some implementations may wish to pass information about clients who
   have passed the discovery phase to the DTLS layer, authorizing only
   those clients to initiate a DTLS handshake.  Note that the impact of
   this on mitigating denial of service attacks against the DTLS layer
   is minimal, because DTLS already uses client-side cookies to minimize
   processor consumption attacks.  As a result, implementations SHOULD
   NOT maintain state between the discovery and DTLS handshake phases of
   the CAPWAP protocol initialization.
</new text> 

PatC

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott G. Kelly [mailto:s.kelly@ix.netcom.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 6:02 AM
To: Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com; Pat Calhoun (pacalhou);
clancy@cs.umd.edu; capwap@frascone.com
Subject: RE: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent
statetrackingonACpriortoDTLSEstablishment

Hi Dorothy,

Dealing with clogging attacks is fairly well understood, and the
approach you take depends on various factors. As Pat said, there is no
perfect solution. But there are solutions which minimize the effect on
valid peers. 

Sulking, as currently defined, causes the AC to ignore *all* messages
from a given IP, but what we actually want to do is to alleviate the DoS
attack while still allowing normal operations. We can accomplish this by
limiting the number of new DTLS handshakes the AC participates in.
Ideally, we'd like valid WTPs to still be able to connect and/or use
already-established sessions, and to suffer only a limited reduction in
service as a result of the attack (or malfunction).

I provided suggested language for this as part of one of the transitions
to "sulking" in a private email while we were at IETF a few weeks back.
Here it is again, modified according to the edits Pat submitted to the
list:


DTLS Setup to Sulking (d):  This transition occurs when repeated
   attempts to setup the DTLS connection have failed.

AC: This transition is a no-op for the AC. While the HelloVerifyRequest
  provides some protection against denial of service (DoS) attacks on
  the AC, an adversary capable of receiving packets at a valid address
  (or a malfunctioning or misconfigured WTP) may repeatedly attempt DTLS
  handshakes with the AC, potentially creating a resource shortage. If
  either the FailedDTLSSessionCount or the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount
  counter reaches the value of MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see
  Section 4.8), implementations MAY choose to rate-limit new DTLS
handshakes
  for some period of time. It is RECOMMENDED that implementations
choosing
  to implement rate limiting use a random discard technique, rather than
  mimicking the WTP's sulking behavior. This will ensure that messages
  from valid WTPs will have some probability of eliciting a response,
  even in the face of a significant DoS attack.

-------------------------

--Scott


-----Original Message-----
>From: Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com
>Sent: Dec 18, 2007 5:11 PM
>To: pcalhoun@cisco.com, scott@hyperthought.com, clancy@cs.umd.edu,
capwap@frascone.com
>Subject: RE: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent statetrackingonAC
priortoDTLSEstablishment
>
>Hi All,
>
>I wanted to thank Pat and Scott for collaborating on Issue 30 so far.
>As for this last nagging point, somehow I imagine protecting an AC from
>flooding attacks sounds easier said than done.   Do the security
experts
>out there on the list have any proposals on this remaining glitch so we

>can close Issue 30?
>
>I know this is a busy time with the holidays, so any help is very 
>appreciated!
>
>Dorothy
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ext Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) [mailto:pcalhoun@cisco.com]
>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 3:02 PM
>> To: Scott G. Kelly; Charles Clancy; capwap
>> Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent statetrackingonAC 
>> priortoDTLSEstablishment
>> 
>> I'm happy to change this by simply adding text that you feel 
>> adequately protects the AC from a flooding attack.
>> 
>> Could you provide some, and I can remove the (d) transition for the 
>> AC.
>> 
>> PatC
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Scott G. Kelly [mailto:s.kelly@ix.netcom.com]
>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 1:19 PM
>> To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou); Charles Clancy; capwap
>> Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state trackingonAC 
>> priortoDTLSEstablishment
>> 
>> Hi Pat,
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> >From: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" <pcalhoun@cisco.com>
>> >Sent: Dec 17, 2007 3:45 PM
>> >To: "Scott G. Kelly" <scott@hyperthought.com>, Charles Clancy
>> <clancy@cs.umd.edu>, capwap <capwap@frascone.com>
>> >Subject: RE: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking onAC
>> priortoDTLSEstablishment
>> >
>> >The current spec clearly states:
>> >
>> >12.3.  Discovery Attacks
>> >
>> >   Since the Discovery Request messages are sent in the clear, it is
>> >   important that AC implementations NOT assume that receiving such
a
>> >   request from a WTP implies that it has rebooted, and consequently
>> >   tear down any active DTLS sessions.
>> >
>> >We can expand this text to include the initiation of DTLS sessions.
>> >
>> 
>> Yes, the current text does preclude entering sulking state based on 
>> discovery messages. That's good. However, the proposed text says
>> 
>>    DTLS Setup to Sulking (d):  This transition occurs when repeated
>>       attempts to setup the DTLS connection have failed.
>>                 :
>>                 :
>>       AC:  The AC enters this state with the specific WTP when the
>>          FailedDTLSSessionCount or the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount
counter
>>          reaches MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section
4.8).
>>          Upon entering this state, the AC's Service thread MUST start
>>          the SilentInterval timer, and ignore all CAPWAP and DTLS
>>          protocol messages received from the WTP.  The AC immediately
>>          transitions the state to Idle.
>> 
>> This implies that if dtls session setup is spoofed, any active 
>> (valid!) sessions will be effectively disconnected, and (valid!) WTP 
>> recovery attempts will be ignored. If the attacker re-does this 
>> attack each time the SilentInterval
>> (default: 30 seconds) expires, valid WTPs can be prevented from 
>> reconnecting indefinitely. This is the unauthenticated DoS I was 
>> referring to.
>> 
>> --Scott
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Here is the proposed text for issues 1 and 2 below. We agreed that issue
3 is already covered in the spec.

<base text>
4.3.  CAPWAP Header
[...]
   Wireless Specific Information:  This optional field contains
      technology specific information that may be used to carry per
      packet wireless information.  This field is only present if the
      'W' bit is set.  The WBID field in the CAPWAP header is used to
      identify the format of the wireless specific information optional
      field.  The HLEN field assumes 4 byte alignment, and this field
      MUST be padded with zeroes (0x00) if it is not 4 byte aligned.

      The Wireless Specific Information field uses the following format:

        0                   1                   2                   3
        0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
       +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
       |    Length     |                Data...
       +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

      Length:  The length of the data field

      Data:  Wireless specific information, defined by the wireless
         specific binding specified in the CAPWAP Header's WBID field.
</base text>

<dot11 binding text>
4.  CAPWAP Data Message Bindings
[...]
   Optional Wireless Specific Information:  The optional CAPWAP header
      field (see Section 4.3 in [3]) is only used with CAPWAP data
      messages, and it serves two purposes, depending upon the direction
      of the message.  For messages from the WTP to the AC, the field
      uses the format described in the "IEEE 802.11 Frame Info" field
      (see below).  However, for messages sent by the AC to the WTP, the
      format used is described in the "Destination WLANs" field (also
      defined below).

      Note that in both cases, the two optional headers fit in the
      "Data" field of the Wireless Specific Information header.
</dot11 binding text> 

PatC
-----Original Message-----
From: Puneet Agarwal [mailto:pagarwal@broadcom.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 5:45 PM
To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)
Cc: capwap
Subject: RE: [Capwap] comments on -08 base draft and .11binding-05 draft

Hi Pat,

Regarding # 3: I am OK with your resolution though it would not hurt to
state the padding requirements as an FYI in the -05 .11 spec.

Thanks.

-Puneet

-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) [mailto:pcalhoun@cisco.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 4:44 PM
To: Puneet Agarwal
Cc: capwap
Subject: RE: [Capwap] comments on -08 base draft and .11binding-05 draft

> 1) In section 4.3 of -08 draft, the "Wireless Specific Information"
optional field has an 8-bit "Wireless ID" field. 
> There is a similar 5 bit WBID field in the main capwap header (in the
first 32 bits). Are the two same? If the two are > the same, then we
should delete the "Wireless ID" in the "Wireless Specific Information"
optional header.
Yes, I agree with this change.
 
> 2) The "Wireless Specific Information" field for .11 is described in
section 4 of the -05 .11 binding spec. Does the 
> text in section 4 "IEEE 802.11 Frame Info" describe the "data" part of
the "Wireless Specific Information" in the base 
> spec? If so, then we should clarify this in the -05 .11 spec.
Yes, I agree with this change.
 
> 3) The base spec requires that the optional elements be 4 byte
aligned. The "Wireless Specific Information" field has 2 
> bytes of "Wireless ID" + "Length which means that the "Data" part
should be 2, 6, 10 etc in length. However the .11 
> spec only defines a 4 byte "Data" part (see 2 above) which does not
meet the alignment requirements. We should change 
> the .11 binding spec and make the "Data" 6 bytes in length with the
last 2 bytes being reserved.
The CAPWAP spec already makes this very clear. Specifically, section 4.3
states:

"  Wireless Specific Information:  This optional field contains
      technology specific information that may be used to carry per
      packet wireless information.  This field is only present if the
      'W' bit is set.  The HLEN field assumes 4 byte alignment, and this
      field MUST be padded with zeroes (0x00) if it is not 4 byte
      aligned."

So I do not believe any additional changes are needed to address this.

Anyone disagree with the above?

PatC
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Looks good. Thanks. -Puneet 

-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) [mailto:pcalhoun@cisco.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:54 AM
To: Puneet Agarwal
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Subject: RE: [Capwap] comments on -08 base draft and .11binding-05 draft

Here is the proposed text for issues 1 and 2 below. We agreed that issue
3 is already covered in the spec.

<base text>
4.3.  CAPWAP Header
[...]
   Wireless Specific Information:  This optional field contains
      technology specific information that may be used to carry per
      packet wireless information.  This field is only present if the
      'W' bit is set.  The WBID field in the CAPWAP header is used to
      identify the format of the wireless specific information optional
      field.  The HLEN field assumes 4 byte alignment, and this field
      MUST be padded with zeroes (0x00) if it is not 4 byte aligned.

      The Wireless Specific Information field uses the following format:

        0                   1                   2                   3
        0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
       +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
       |    Length     |                Data...
       +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

      Length:  The length of the data field

      Data:  Wireless specific information, defined by the wireless
         specific binding specified in the CAPWAP Header's WBID field.
</base text>

<dot11 binding text>
4.  CAPWAP Data Message Bindings
[...]
   Optional Wireless Specific Information:  The optional CAPWAP header
      field (see Section 4.3 in [3]) is only used with CAPWAP data
      messages, and it serves two purposes, depending upon the direction
      of the message.  For messages from the WTP to the AC, the field
      uses the format described in the "IEEE 802.11 Frame Info" field
      (see below).  However, for messages sent by the AC to the WTP, the
      format used is described in the "Destination WLANs" field (also
      defined below).

      Note that in both cases, the two optional headers fit in the
      "Data" field of the Wireless Specific Information header.
</dot11 binding text> 

PatC
-----Original Message-----
From: Puneet Agarwal [mailto:pagarwal@broadcom.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 5:45 PM
To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)
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Subject: RE: [Capwap] comments on -08 base draft and .11binding-05 draft

Hi Pat,

Regarding # 3: I am OK with your resolution though it would not hurt to
state the padding requirements as an FYI in the -05 .11 spec.

Thanks.

-Puneet

-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) [mailto:pcalhoun@cisco.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 4:44 PM
To: Puneet Agarwal
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Subject: RE: [Capwap] comments on -08 base draft and .11binding-05 draft

> 1) In section 4.3 of -08 draft, the "Wireless Specific Information"
optional field has an 8-bit "Wireless ID" field. 
> There is a similar 5 bit WBID field in the main capwap header (in the
first 32 bits). Are the two same? If the two are > the same, then we
should delete the "Wireless ID" in the "Wireless Specific Information"
optional header.
Yes, I agree with this change.
 
> 2) The "Wireless Specific Information" field for .11 is described in
section 4 of the -05 .11 binding spec. Does the 
> text in section 4 "IEEE 802.11 Frame Info" describe the "data" part of
the "Wireless Specific Information" in the base 
> spec? If so, then we should clarify this in the -05 .11 spec.
Yes, I agree with this change.
 
> 3) The base spec requires that the optional elements be 4 byte
aligned. The "Wireless Specific Information" field has 2 
> bytes of "Wireless ID" + "Length which means that the "Data" part
should be 2, 6, 10 etc in length. However the .11 
> spec only defines a 4 byte "Data" part (see 2 above) which does not
meet the alignment requirements. We should change 
> the .11 binding spec and make the "Data" 6 bytes in length with the
last 2 bytes being reserved.
The CAPWAP spec already makes this very clear. Specifically, section 4.3
states:

"  Wireless Specific Information:  This optional field contains
      technology specific information that may be used to carry per
      packet wireless information.  This field is only present if the
      'W' bit is set.  The HLEN field assumes 4 byte alignment, and this
      field MUST be padded with zeroes (0x00) if it is not 4 byte
      aligned."

So I do not believe any additional changes are needed to address this.

Anyone disagree with the above?

PatC


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The text for the first issue looks good.

Minor nit with the second one...


Instead of  
  Optional Wireless Specific Information:  The optional CAPWAP header
field...

We could have

  Wireless Specific Information:  This optional CAPWAP header field...

Thanks,
Abhijit
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:54 AM
To: Puneet Agarwal
Cc: capwap
Subject: Re: [Capwap] comments on -08 base draft and .11binding-05 draft

Here is the proposed text for issues 1 and 2 below. We agreed that issue
3 is already covered in the spec.

<base text>
4.3.  CAPWAP Header
[...]
   Wireless Specific Information:  This optional field contains
      technology specific information that may be used to carry per
      packet wireless information.  This field is only present if the
      'W' bit is set.  The WBID field in the CAPWAP header is used to
      identify the format of the wireless specific information optional
      field.  The HLEN field assumes 4 byte alignment, and this field
      MUST be padded with zeroes (0x00) if it is not 4 byte aligned.

      The Wireless Specific Information field uses the following format:

        0                   1                   2                   3
        0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
       +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
       |    Length     |                Data...
       +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

      Length:  The length of the data field

      Data:  Wireless specific information, defined by the wireless
         specific binding specified in the CAPWAP Header's WBID field.
</base text>

<dot11 binding text>
4.  CAPWAP Data Message Bindings
[...]
   Optional Wireless Specific Information:  The optional CAPWAP header
      field (see Section 4.3 in [3]) is only used with CAPWAP data
      messages, and it serves two purposes, depending upon the direction
      of the message.  For messages from the WTP to the AC, the field
      uses the format described in the "IEEE 802.11 Frame Info" field
      (see below).  However, for messages sent by the AC to the WTP, the
      format used is described in the "Destination WLANs" field (also
      defined below).

      Note that in both cases, the two optional headers fit in the
      "Data" field of the Wireless Specific Information header.
</dot11 binding text> 

PatC
-----Original Message-----
From: Puneet Agarwal [mailto:pagarwal@broadcom.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 5:45 PM
To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)
Cc: capwap
Subject: RE: [Capwap] comments on -08 base draft and .11binding-05 draft

Hi Pat,

Regarding # 3: I am OK with your resolution though it would not hurt to
state the padding requirements as an FYI in the -05 .11 spec.

Thanks.

-Puneet

-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) [mailto:pcalhoun@cisco.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 4:44 PM
To: Puneet Agarwal
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Subject: RE: [Capwap] comments on -08 base draft and .11binding-05 draft

> 1) In section 4.3 of -08 draft, the "Wireless Specific Information"
optional field has an 8-bit "Wireless ID" field. 
> There is a similar 5 bit WBID field in the main capwap header (in the
first 32 bits). Are the two same? If the two are > the same, then we
should delete the "Wireless ID" in the "Wireless Specific Information"
optional header.
Yes, I agree with this change.
 
> 2) The "Wireless Specific Information" field for .11 is described in
section 4 of the -05 .11 binding spec. Does the 
> text in section 4 "IEEE 802.11 Frame Info" describe the "data" part of
the "Wireless Specific Information" in the base 
> spec? If so, then we should clarify this in the -05 .11 spec.
Yes, I agree with this change.
 
> 3) The base spec requires that the optional elements be 4 byte
aligned. The "Wireless Specific Information" field has 2 
> bytes of "Wireless ID" + "Length which means that the "Data" part
should be 2, 6, 10 etc in length. However the .11 
> spec only defines a 4 byte "Data" part (see 2 above) which does not
meet the alignment requirements. We should change 
> the .11 binding spec and make the "Data" 6 bytes in length with the
last 2 bytes being reserved.
The CAPWAP spec already makes this very clear. Specifically, section 4.3
states:

"  Wireless Specific Information:  This optional field contains
      technology specific information that may be used to carry per
      packet wireless information.  This field is only present if the
      'W' bit is set.  The HLEN field assumes 4 byte alignment, and this
      field MUST be padded with zeroes (0x00) if it is not 4 byte
      aligned."

So I do not believe any additional changes are needed to address this.

Anyone disagree with the above?

PatC
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All,

In an attempt to address Scott's issues, I have made an additional
change to remove the sulking state on the AC. This has caused the
recommendations to perform rate limiting to only be present in the
security considerations text (sent yesterday).

<revised text>
2.3.  CAPWAP State Machine Definition
[...]
                            /-------------------------------------\
                            |          /-------------------------\|
                            |         w|                         ||
                            |    x+----------+ y +------------+  ||
                            |     |   Run    |-->|   Reset    |-\||
                            |     +----------+   +------------+ |||
                           u|  V      ^           ^     ^      z|||
                +------------+--------/           |     |       |||
                | Data Check |             /-------/    |       |||
                +------------+<-------\   |             |       |||
                                      |   |             |       |||
                       /------------------+--------\    |       |||
                      m|             t|  o|    q   v   r|       |||
               +--------+     +-----------+     +--------------+|||
               |  Join  |---->| Configure |     |  Image Data  ||||
               +--------+  n  +-----------+     +--------------+|||
                ^   |l                 p|                    s| |||
                |   |                   \-------------------\ | |||
                |   \--------------------------------------\| | |||
                \------------------------\                 || | |||
         /--------------<----------------+---------------\ || | |||
         | /------------<----------------+-------------\ | || | |||
         | |                       i      |k           8| | vv v vvv
         | |   +----------------+<--+--------------+   +-----------+
     /---|-|---|   DTLS Setup   |   | DTLS Connect |-->|  DTLS TD  |
     | /-|-|---+----------------+e  +--------------+ 7 +-----------+
     | | | | d  |6  ^      ^  |f         ^       j|      ^  |~
     v v v v    |   |      |  |          |        |      |  |
     | | | |    |   |      |  \-------\  |   /----+------/  |
     | | | |    |   |      |          |  |   |    \---\     |
     | | | |    v  c|  1   |5    2    v  |g  |h       v     v
     | | | \->+------+-->+------+   +-----------+    +--------+
     | | |    | Idle |   | Disc |   | Authorize |    |  Dead  |
     | | |    +------+<--+------+   +-----------+    +--------+
     | | |        ^    0      |3                         ^
     | | |        |           |                          |b
     | | |9       |4          |                          |
     | | \->+---------+<------/                          |
     | \--->| Sulking |                                  |
     |      +---------+a                                 |
     \---------------------------------------------------/

                 Figure 3: CAPWAP Integrated State Machine

[...]
   Listener Thread -   The AC's Listener thread handles the shared
      services, which includes receiving and responding to Discovery
      Requests.  The Listener thread handles the common tasks, up to the
      DTLS Setup state.  The state machine transitions in the above
      figure are represented by numerals.  It is necessary for the AC to
      protect itself against various attacks that exist with non-
      authenticated frames.  See Section 12 for more information.

2.3.1.  CAPWAP Protocol State Transitions
[...]
   DTLS Setup to Dead (b):  This transition occurs on the AC when the
      DTLS connection establishment process fails.

      WTP:  This is an invalid state transition for the WTP.

      AC:  The AC initiates this state transition when it receives a
         DTLSEstablishFail notification from DTLS (see Section 2.3.2.2).
         This error notification aborts the secure DTLS session
         establishment.  When this notification is received, the
         FailedDTLSSessionCount counter is incremented.  The AC must
         clean up all resources associated with the control plane DTLS
         session The data plane DTLS session is also shutdown, and all
         resources freed, if a DTLS session was established for the data
         plane.  Any timers set for the current instance of the state
         machine are also cleared.  The AC's Service thread is
         terminated. 
</revised text>

PatC
-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:22 AM
To: Scott G. Kelly; Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com; clancy@cs.umd.edu;
capwap@frascone.com
Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 30:
InconsistentstatetrackingonACpriortoDTLSEstablishment

ok, sounds good. I have made the following changes to the previously
sent text. Note that I added text to the security considerations section
that handles the case you raised in another e-mail. I think we should
provide this additional guidance.

<new text>
2.3.1.  CAPWAP Protocol State Transitions [...]
   Sulking to Sulking (a):  The Sulking state provides the silent
      period, minimizing the possibility for Denial of Service (DoS)
      attacks.

      WTP:  All packets received from the AC while in the sulking state
         are ignored.

      AC:  This is an invalid state transition for the AC.
[...]
   DTLS Setup to Sulking (d):  This transition occurs when repeated
      attempts to setup the DTLS connection have failed.
[...]

      AC:  This transition is a no-op for the AC.  While the
         HelloVerifyRequest provides some protection against denial of
         service (DoS) attacks on the AC, an adversary capable of
         receiving packets at a valid address (or a malfunctioning or
         misconfigured WTP) may repeatedly attempt DTLS handshakes with
         the AC, potentially creating a resource shortage.  If either
         the FailedDTLSSessionCount or the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount
         counter reaches the value of MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable
         (see Section 4.8), implementations MAY choose to rate-limit new
         DTLS handshakes for some period of time.  It is RECOMMENDED
         that implementations choosing to implement rate limiting use a
         random discard technique, rather than mimicking the WTP's
         sulking behavior.  This will ensure that messages from valid
         WTPs will have some probability of eliciting a response, even
         in the face of a significant DoS attack.

12.3.  Discovery or DTLS Setup Attacks

   Since the Discovery Request messages are sent in the clear, it is
   important that AC implementations NOT assume that receiving such a
   request from a WTP implies that it has rebooted, and consequently
   tear down any active DTLS sessions.  Discovery Request messages can
   easily be spoofed by malicious devices, so it is important that the
   AC maintain two separate sets of states for the WTP until the
   DTLSSessionEstablished notification is received, indicating that the
   WTP was authenticated.  Once a new DTLS session is successfully
   established, any state referring to the old session can be cleared.

   Similarly, entering the DTLS Setup phase SHOULD NOT assume that the
   WTP has reset, and therefore should not discard active state until
   the DTLS session has been successfully established.  While the
   HelloVerifyRequest provides some protection against denial of service
   (DoS) attacks on the AC, an adversary capable of receiving packets at
   a valid address (or a malfunctioning or misconfigured WTP) may
   repeatedly attempt DTLS handshakes with the AC, potentially creating
   a resource shortage.  If either the FailedDTLSSessionCount or the
   FailedDTLSAuthFailCount counter reaches the value of
   MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section 4.8), implementations
   MAY choose to rate-limit new DTLS handshakes for some period of time.
   It is RECOMMENDED that implementations choosing to implement rate
   limiting use a random discard technique, rather than mimicking the
   WTP's sulking behavior.  This will ensure that messages from valid
   WTPs will have some probability of eliciting a response, even in the
   face of a significant DoS attack.

   Some implementations may wish to pass information about clients who
   have passed the discovery phase to the DTLS layer, authorizing only
   those clients to initiate a DTLS handshake.  Note that the impact of
   this on mitigating denial of service attacks against the DTLS layer
   is minimal, because DTLS already uses client-side cookies to minimize
   processor consumption attacks.  As a result, implementations SHOULD
   NOT maintain state between the discovery and DTLS handshake phases of
   the CAPWAP protocol initialization.
</new text> 

PatC

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott G. Kelly [mailto:s.kelly@ix.netcom.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 6:02 AM
To: Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com; Pat Calhoun (pacalhou);
clancy@cs.umd.edu; capwap@frascone.com
Subject: RE: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent
statetrackingonACpriortoDTLSEstablishment

Hi Dorothy,

Dealing with clogging attacks is fairly well understood, and the
approach you take depends on various factors. As Pat said, there is no
perfect solution. But there are solutions which minimize the effect on
valid peers. 

Sulking, as currently defined, causes the AC to ignore *all* messages
from a given IP, but what we actually want to do is to alleviate the DoS
attack while still allowing normal operations. We can accomplish this by
limiting the number of new DTLS handshakes the AC participates in.
Ideally, we'd like valid WTPs to still be able to connect and/or use
already-established sessions, and to suffer only a limited reduction in
service as a result of the attack (or malfunction).

I provided suggested language for this as part of one of the transitions
to "sulking" in a private email while we were at IETF a few weeks back.
Here it is again, modified according to the edits Pat submitted to the
list:


DTLS Setup to Sulking (d):  This transition occurs when repeated
   attempts to setup the DTLS connection have failed.

AC: This transition is a no-op for the AC. While the HelloVerifyRequest
  provides some protection against denial of service (DoS) attacks on
  the AC, an adversary capable of receiving packets at a valid address
  (or a malfunctioning or misconfigured WTP) may repeatedly attempt DTLS
  handshakes with the AC, potentially creating a resource shortage. If
  either the FailedDTLSSessionCount or the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount
  counter reaches the value of MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see
  Section 4.8), implementations MAY choose to rate-limit new DTLS
handshakes
  for some period of time. It is RECOMMENDED that implementations
choosing
  to implement rate limiting use a random discard technique, rather than
  mimicking the WTP's sulking behavior. This will ensure that messages
  from valid WTPs will have some probability of eliciting a response,
  even in the face of a significant DoS attack.

-------------------------

--Scott


-----Original Message-----
>From: Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com
>Sent: Dec 18, 2007 5:11 PM
>To: pcalhoun@cisco.com, scott@hyperthought.com, clancy@cs.umd.edu,
capwap@frascone.com
>Subject: RE: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent statetrackingonAC
priortoDTLSEstablishment
>
>Hi All,
>
>I wanted to thank Pat and Scott for collaborating on Issue 30 so far.
>As for this last nagging point, somehow I imagine protecting an AC from
>flooding attacks sounds easier said than done.   Do the security
experts
>out there on the list have any proposals on this remaining glitch so we

>can close Issue 30?
>
>I know this is a busy time with the holidays, so any help is very 
>appreciated!
>
>Dorothy
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ext Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) [mailto:pcalhoun@cisco.com]
>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 3:02 PM
>> To: Scott G. Kelly; Charles Clancy; capwap
>> Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent statetrackingonAC 
>> priortoDTLSEstablishment
>> 
>> I'm happy to change this by simply adding text that you feel 
>> adequately protects the AC from a flooding attack.
>> 
>> Could you provide some, and I can remove the (d) transition for the 
>> AC.
>> 
>> PatC
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Scott G. Kelly [mailto:s.kelly@ix.netcom.com]
>> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 1:19 PM
>> To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou); Charles Clancy; capwap
>> Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state trackingonAC 
>> priortoDTLSEstablishment
>> 
>> Hi Pat,
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> >From: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" <pcalhoun@cisco.com>
>> >Sent: Dec 17, 2007 3:45 PM
>> >To: "Scott G. Kelly" <scott@hyperthought.com>, Charles Clancy
>> <clancy@cs.umd.edu>, capwap <capwap@frascone.com>
>> >Subject: RE: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking onAC
>> priortoDTLSEstablishment
>> >
>> >The current spec clearly states:
>> >
>> >12.3.  Discovery Attacks
>> >
>> >   Since the Discovery Request messages are sent in the clear, it is
>> >   important that AC implementations NOT assume that receiving such
a
>> >   request from a WTP implies that it has rebooted, and consequently
>> >   tear down any active DTLS sessions.
>> >
>> >We can expand this text to include the initiation of DTLS sessions.
>> >
>> 
>> Yes, the current text does preclude entering sulking state based on 
>> discovery messages. That's good. However, the proposed text says
>> 
>>    DTLS Setup to Sulking (d):  This transition occurs when repeated
>>       attempts to setup the DTLS connection have failed.
>>                 :
>>                 :
>>       AC:  The AC enters this state with the specific WTP when the
>>          FailedDTLSSessionCount or the FailedDTLSAuthFailCount
counter
>>          reaches MaxFailedDTLSSessionRetry variable (see Section
4.8).
>>          Upon entering this state, the AC's Service thread MUST start
>>          the SilentInterval timer, and ignore all CAPWAP and DTLS
>>          protocol messages received from the WTP.  The AC immediately
>>          transitions the state to Idle.
>> 
>> This implies that if dtls session setup is spoofed, any active
>> (valid!) sessions will be effectively disconnected, and (valid!) WTP 
>> recovery attempts will be ignored. If the attacker re-does this 
>> attack each time the SilentInterval
>> (default: 30 seconds) expires, valid WTPs can be prevented from 
>> reconnecting indefinitely. This is the unauthenticated DoS I was 
>> referring to.
>> 
>> --Scott
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> From: Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf@mit.edu>
> Date: December 20, 2007 9:44:56 PM EST
> To: capwap@frascone.com
> Cc: capwap-chairs@tools.ietf.org
> Subject: Comments on draft-ietf-capwap-protocol-specification
>
>
> Hi.  I was looking at the certificate validation in version 08 of the
> protocol spec and wanted to report these comments to the WG for
>  consideration.
>
>
> 1) The document really should have a table of contents.  Table of
>    contents are an important part of making reviewers lives easier
>    looking at what a document covers.  Please please fix this before
>    ietf last call.
>
> 2)  Section 2.4.4.3  should specify the handling of the
>     anyExtendedKeyUsage keyPurposeID.
>
> 3)  The naming rules in section 2.4.4.3 seem to be somewhat I'm
> 3)  confused by the certificate naming in 2.4.4.3.  It seems that
> 3)  certificates are expected to have a MAC address in the CN field of
> 3)  the certificate.
>
> * How does a WTP know which MAC address it expects the AC to have?
>   This seems reasonably obvious if they are on-link, but what about
>   when there is a router in between?  Is the client actually going to
>   know that it is connecting to a specific MAC?    How is this name
>   bound to something the WTP actually knows it is trying to access?
>
> * ISn't the MAC address rather specific to the 802.11 application?  Is
>   it really an appropriate name to use for other uses of capwap?
>   Again, how will you know that the authorization is used the right
>   way?
>
> * This is a minor point, but how do you handle an AC (or non-802.11
>   WTP) that does not have a MAC address?
>
>
>
>
> 4) I expected to find some discussion of trust anchors in the document
>    and was surprised not to see any.  Also, I expected to find some
>    reference to the certificate validation algorithm in RFC 3280.  The
>    second point  is minor; there is certificate validation text and it
>    may well be good enough.  The point about discussing trust anchors
>    is bigger.
>
> I do realize that trust anchors are a difficult topic.  If I get a WTP
> that has never been configured and arrives in a box from some
> manufacturer, how exactly is it supposed to know who to trust at my
> cite.  You should say something though or have an explanation of why
> you couldn't say anything.
>
> 5)  The ssh-style leap of faith caching  is great for initial
>     configuration.  However it tends to be problematic for supporting
>     key rollover.
> Has any thought been given to how long to cache leap of faith entries
>     in capwap or how to support key and certificate rollover in this
>     situation?
>
> Thanks for your consideration,
>
> --Sam

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Issue 33 has been created, and I have addressed it. I will not send the
proposed text to the list, since it is auto-generating. I have also set
the issue to the resolved state.

PatC 

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Both the CAPWAP Base Spec and the 802.11 Binding are lacking Tables of
Contents.  A Table of Contents is required for any IETF spec over
9 pages long, so these will need to be added before we send the
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Thanks, Pat.  I don't feel a need to review the TOC.  :-)

Margaret

On Dec 21, 2007, at 10:36 AM, Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) wrote:

> Issue 33 has been created, and I have addressed it. I will not send  
> the
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> set
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>
> PatC
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 5:49 PM
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>
>
> Both the CAPWAP Base Spec and the 802.11 Binding are lacking Tables of
> Contents.  A Table of Contents is required for any IETF spec over
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>
> Margaret
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I have created a series of tracker entries

1) Issue 33
2) Issue 34
3) Issue 35
4) Issue 36
5) Issue 37

PatC 

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Forwarded for Sam Hartman, who is not on the CAPWAP WG mailing list.

Margaret

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf@mit.edu>
> Date: December 20, 2007 9:44:56 PM EST
> To: capwap@frascone.com
> Cc: capwap-chairs@tools.ietf.org
> Subject: Comments on draft-ietf-capwap-protocol-specification
>
>
> Hi.  I was looking at the certificate validation in version 08 of the 
> protocol spec and wanted to report these comments to the WG for  
> consideration.
>
>
> 1) The document really should have a table of contents.  Table of
>    contents are an important part of making reviewers lives easier
>    looking at what a document covers.  Please please fix this before
>    ietf last call.
>
> 2)  Section 2.4.4.3  should specify the handling of the
>     anyExtendedKeyUsage keyPurposeID.
>
> 3)  The naming rules in section 2.4.4.3 seem to be somewhat I'm
> 3)  confused by the certificate naming in 2.4.4.3.  It seems that
> 3)  certificates are expected to have a MAC address in the CN field of
> 3)  the certificate.
>
> * How does a WTP know which MAC address it expects the AC to have?
>   This seems reasonably obvious if they are on-link, but what about
>   when there is a router in between?  Is the client actually going to
>   know that it is connecting to a specific MAC?    How is this name
>   bound to something the WTP actually knows it is trying to access?
>
> * ISn't the MAC address rather specific to the 802.11 application?  Is
>   it really an appropriate name to use for other uses of capwap?
>   Again, how will you know that the authorization is used the right
>   way?
>
> * This is a minor point, but how do you handle an AC (or non-802.11
>   WTP) that does not have a MAC address?
>
>
>
>
> 4) I expected to find some discussion of trust anchors in the document
>    and was surprised not to see any.  Also, I expected to find some
>    reference to the certificate validation algorithm in RFC 3280.  The
>    second point  is minor; there is certificate validation text and it
>    may well be good enough.  The point about discussing trust anchors
>    is bigger.
>
> I do realize that trust anchors are a difficult topic.  If I get a WTP

> that has never been configured and arrives in a box from some 
> manufacturer, how exactly is it supposed to know who to trust at my 
> cite.  You should say something though or have an explanation of why 
> you couldn't say anything.
>
> 5)  The ssh-style leap of faith caching  is great for initial
>     configuration.  However it tends to be problematic for supporting
>     key rollover.
> Has any thought been given to how long to cache leap of faith entries
>     in capwap or how to support key and certificate rollover in this
>     situation?
>
> Thanks for your consideration,
>
> --Sam

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All,

The issue that was raised was that the use of the keyPurposeID was
unclear. I actually disagree since the last last sentence of section
2.4.4.3 includes:

<existing text>
2.4.4.3.  Certificate Usage
[...]

   The particulars of authorization
   filter construction are implementation details which are, for the
   most part, not within the scope of this specification.  However, at
   minimum, all devices MUST verify that the appropriate EKU bit is set
   according to the role of the peer device (AC vs. WTP), and that the
   issuer of the certificate is appropriate for the domain in question.
</existing text>

However, if Sam felt this was not sufficient, I have added a sentence to
an
existing paragraph (the last sentence below):

<proposed text>
2.4.4.3.  Certificate Usage
[...]

   Part of the CAPWAP certificate validation process includes ensuring
   that the proper EKU is included and allowing the CAPWAP session to be
   established only if the extension properly represents the device. For
   instance, an AC SHOULD NOT accept a connection request from another
AC, and
   therefore MUST verify that the id-kp-capwapWTP EKU is present in the
   certificate.
</proposed text>

I believe this provides about as much guidance as needed.

PatC
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Sam,

There is no expectation that the AC or WTP actually validate the MAC
address in the 802.3 packet. In fact the text states:

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[...]
   ACs and WTPs MUST authorize (e.g. through access control lists)
   certificates of devices to which they are connecting, e.g., based on
   the issuer, MAC address, or organizational information specified in
   the certificate.  The identities specified in the certificates bind a
   particular DTLS session to a specific pair of mutually-authenticated
   and authorized MAC addresses.  The particulars of authorization
   filter construction are implementation details which are, for the
   most part, not within the scope of this specification.
</existing text>

The intention is the for AC and WTPs to validate the CN through an
access
control list. This could be done via a RADIUS request, a locally stored
MAC address list, etc. As long as the certificate is valid, and
authorized,
it really doesn't matter whether the device in question is actually
using
the MAC address encoded in the CN field, and as you state, this is not
possible to do if a router is present.

The MAC address is not 802.11 specific. Ethernet devices have MAC
addresses,
and the implementations that I am familiar with use the primary Ethernet
port's MAC address in its certificate. However, if the device is WLAN or
even
WiMAX, they would still have a MAC address. Should a box be created that
has
no MAC address (not sure what link layer it would be using, but let's
pretend),
then the manufacturer could still request a MAC address per device.

Note that I have made a small, necessary, change to support both MAC
Address
formats:

<proposed text>
2.4.4.3.  Certificate Usage
[...]
   The certificate common name (CN) for both the WTP and AC MUST be the
   MAC address of that device.  The MAC address MUST be formatted as
   ASCII HEX, e.g. 01:23:45:67:89:ab.  Note that the CN field MAY
contain
   either of the EUI-48 [22] or EUI-64 [23] MAC Address formats.
</proposed text>

So other than the above minor change, I believe that the current text is
sufficient. 

Thoughts?

PatC

> 3)  The naming rules in section 2.4.4.3 seem to be somewhat I'm
> 3)  confused by the certificate naming in 2.4.4.3.  It seems that
> 3)  certificates are expected to have a MAC address in the CN field of
> 3)  the certificate.
>
> * How does a WTP know which MAC address it expects the AC to have?
>   This seems reasonably obvious if they are on-link, but what about
>   when there is a router in between?  Is the client actually going to
>   know that it is connecting to a specific MAC?    How is this name
>   bound to something the WTP actually knows it is trying to access?
>
> * ISn't the MAC address rather specific to the 802.11 application?  Is
>   it really an appropriate name to use for other uses of capwap?
>   Again, how will you know that the authorization is used the right
>   way?
>
> * This is a minor point, but how do you handle an AC (or non-802.11
>   WTP) that does not have a MAC address?
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Re-sending, but including Sam as I do not know whether he is on the
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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 7:59 AM
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Subject: [Capwap] Issue 34: keyPurposeID needs clarification


All,

The issue that was raised was that the use of the keyPurposeID was
unclear. I actually disagree since the last last sentence of section
2.4.4.3 includes:

<existing text>
2.4.4.3.  Certificate Usage
[...]

   The particulars of authorization
   filter construction are implementation details which are, for the
   most part, not within the scope of this specification.  However, at
   minimum, all devices MUST verify that the appropriate EKU bit is set
   according to the role of the peer device (AC vs. WTP), and that the
   issuer of the certificate is appropriate for the domain in question.
</existing text>

However, if Sam felt this was not sufficient, I have added a sentence to
an existing paragraph (the last sentence below):

<proposed text>
2.4.4.3.  Certificate Usage
[...]

   Part of the CAPWAP certificate validation process includes ensuring
   that the proper EKU is included and allowing the CAPWAP session to be
   established only if the extension properly represents the device. For
   instance, an AC SHOULD NOT accept a connection request from another
AC, and
   therefore MUST verify that the id-kp-capwapWTP EKU is present in the
   certificate.
</proposed text>

I believe this provides about as much guidance as needed.

PatC
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PatC  

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Subject: [Capwap] Issue 35: MAC Address in Certificate CN field

Sam,

There is no expectation that the AC or WTP actually validate the MAC
address in the 802.3 packet. In fact the text states:

<existing text>
2.4.4.3.  Certificate Usage
[...]
   ACs and WTPs MUST authorize (e.g. through access control lists)
   certificates of devices to which they are connecting, e.g., based on
   the issuer, MAC address, or organizational information specified in
   the certificate.  The identities specified in the certificates bind a
   particular DTLS session to a specific pair of mutually-authenticated
   and authorized MAC addresses.  The particulars of authorization
   filter construction are implementation details which are, for the
   most part, not within the scope of this specification.
</existing text>

The intention is the for AC and WTPs to validate the CN through an
access control list. This could be done via a RADIUS request, a locally
stored MAC address list, etc. As long as the certificate is valid, and
authorized, it really doesn't matter whether the device in question is
actually using the MAC address encoded in the CN field, and as you
state, this is not possible to do if a router is present.

The MAC address is not 802.11 specific. Ethernet devices have MAC
addresses, and the implementations that I am familiar with use the
primary Ethernet port's MAC address in its certificate. However, if the
device is WLAN or even WiMAX, they would still have a MAC address.
Should a box be created that has no MAC address (not sure what link
layer it would be using, but let's pretend), then the manufacturer could
still request a MAC address per device.

Note that I have made a small, necessary, change to support both MAC
Address
formats:

<proposed text>
2.4.4.3.  Certificate Usage
[...]
   The certificate common name (CN) for both the WTP and AC MUST be the
   MAC address of that device.  The MAC address MUST be formatted as
   ASCII HEX, e.g. 01:23:45:67:89:ab.  Note that the CN field MAY
contain
   either of the EUI-48 [22] or EUI-64 [23] MAC Address formats.
</proposed text>

So other than the above minor change, I believe that the current text is
sufficient. 

Thoughts?

PatC

> 3)  The naming rules in section 2.4.4.3 seem to be somewhat I'm
> 3)  confused by the certificate naming in 2.4.4.3.  It seems that
> 3)  certificates are expected to have a MAC address in the CN field of
> 3)  the certificate.
>
> * How does a WTP know which MAC address it expects the AC to have?
>   This seems reasonably obvious if they are on-link, but what about
>   when there is a router in between?  Is the client actually going to
>   know that it is connecting to a specific MAC?    How is this name
>   bound to something the WTP actually knows it is trying to access?
>
> * ISn't the MAC address rather specific to the 802.11 application?  Is
>   it really an appropriate name to use for other uses of capwap?
>   Again, how will you know that the authorization is used the right
>   way?
>
> * This is a minor point, but how do you handle an AC (or non-802.11
>   WTP) that does not have a MAC address?
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Created issue 28 to track this issue. I would note that the second issue
is not a bug because it was explicitely removed when we introduced the
fix to issue 3, which was to utilize existing tools to perform path MTU
discovery. So that issue is invalid. However, I have confirmed that the
first issue is valid.
 
PatC

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1. The list of CAPWAP message elements on Page 52 of draft 08 is
   incomplete; elements 30-49 are missing.
 
 
2. The description of message element MTU Discovery Padding is missing.
 
 
 
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Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 29: vendor specific payloads


These changes look good to me.

Margaret

On Dec 3, 2007, at 8:09 PM, Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) wrote:

> All,
>
> During today's face to face meeting, the group decided that this issue

> was valid and we need to resolve it in the current protocol. I am 
> providing the proposed text changes to support the issue.
>
> Comments appreciated.
>
> <base draft>
>
> 4.6.39.  Vendor Specific Payload
>
>    The Vendor Specific Payload message element is used to communicate
>    vendor specific information between the WTP and the AC.  The Vendor
>    Specific Payload message element MAY be present in any CAPWAP
>    message.  The message element uses the following format:
>
>       0                   1                   2                   3
>       0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
>      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>      |                       Vendor Identifier                       |
>      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>      |          Element ID           |   Value...    |
>      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>
>
> 5.1.  Discovery Request Message
> [...]
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Discovery
>    Request message:
>
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 5.2.  Discovery Response Message
> [...]
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Discovery
>    Response message:
>
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 5.3.  Primary Discovery Request Message [...]
>
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Primary
>    Discovery Request message:
>
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 5.4.  Primary Discovery Response
> [...]
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Primary
>    Discovery Response message:
>
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 6.1.  Join Request
> [...]
>    The following message element MAY be included in the Join Request
>    message.
> [...]
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 6.2.  Join Response
> [...]
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Join Response
>    message.
> [...]
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 7.1.  Echo Request
> [...]
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Echo Request
>    message:
>
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 7.2.  Echo Response
> [...]
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Echo Response
>    message:
>
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 8.2.  Configuration Status
> [...]
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Configuration
>    Status message.
>
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 8.3.  Configuration Status Response
> [...]
>    The following message element MAY be included in the Configuration
>    Status Response message.
> [...]
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 8.4.  Configuration Update Request
> [...]
>    One or more of the following message elements MAY be included in 
> the
>    Configuration Update message.
> [...]
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 8.5.  Configuration Update Response
> [...]
>    The following message elements MAY be present in the Configuration
>    Update Response message.
> [...]
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 8.6.  Change State Event Request
> [...]
>    One or more of the following message elements MAY be present in the
>    Change State Event Request message.
> [...]
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 8.7.  Change State Event Response
> [...]
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Change State
>    Event Response message:
>
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 8.8.  Clear Configuration Request
> [...]
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Clear
>    Configuration Request message:
>
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 8.9.  Clear Configuration Response
> [...]
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Clear
>    Configuration Request message:
>
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 9.1.1.  Image Data Request
> [...]
>
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Image Data
>    Request message.
> [...]
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 9.1.2.  Image Data Response
> [...]
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Image Data
>    Response message.
> [...]
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 9.2.  Reset Request
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Reset Request
>    message:
>
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 9.3.  Reset Response
> [...]
>    The following message element MAY be included in the Reset Response
>    message.
> [...]
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 9.4.  WTP Event Request
> [...]
>    More than one of each messsage element
>    listed MAY be included in the WTP Event Request message.
> [...]
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 9.5.  WTP Event Response
> [...]
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the WTP Event
>    Response message:
>
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 9.6.  Data Transfer Request
> [...]
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Data Transfer
>    Request message:
>
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 9.7.  Data Transfer Response
> [...]
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Data Transfer
>    Response message:
>
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 10.1.  Station Configuration Request
> [...]
>    More than one of each message
>    element listed MAY be included in the Station Configuration Request
>    message.
> [...]
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> 10.2.  Station Configuration Response
> [...]
>    The following message elements MAY be included in the Station
>    Configuration Response message:
>
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see Section 4.6.39
>
> </base draft>
>
>
> <binding draft>
>
> 3.1.  IEEE 802.11 WLAN Configuration Request [...]
>    The following message element MAY be present.
> [...]
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see [3]
>
> 3.2.  IEEE 802.11 WLAN Configuration Response [...]
>    The following message element MAY be present.
> [...]
>    o  Vendor Specific Payload, see [3]
>
> </binding draft>
>
> PatC
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I am closing this issue as no additional comments have been received
since the text was proposed.

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-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 31: Peer Authorization is optional

All,

I had included the wrong text from version 8 of the draft below. The
broken text follows. The issue, once more, was the reference to forgoing
the authorization check.

<old text>
   Authorize to DTLS Connect (j):  This transition occurs to notify the
      DTLS stack that the session should be established.

      WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP has either opted
         to forgo the authorization check of the AC's credentials, or
         the credentials were successfully authorized.  This is done by
         invoking the DTLSAccept DTLS command (see Section 2.3.2.1).

      AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC has either opted to
         forgo the authorization check of the WTP's credentials, or the
         credentials were successfully authorized.  This is done by
         invoking the DTLSAccept DTLS command (see Section
2.3.2.1).</old text>


We are fixing this by making the authorization phase mandatory, and
providing some guidance on the authorization process:

<text>
   Authorize to DTLS Connect (g):  This transition occurs to notify the
      DTLS stack that the session should be established.

      WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP has successfully
         authorized the AC's credentials (see Section 2.4.4).  This is
         done by invoking the DTLSAccept DTLS command (see
         Section 2.3.2.1).

      AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC has successfully
         authorized the WTP's credentials (see Section 2.4.4).  This is
         done by invoking the DTLSAccept DTLS command (see
         Section 2.3.2.1).

2.4.4.3.  Certificate Usage
[...]
   ACs and WTPs MUST authorize (e.g. through access control lists)
   certificates of devices to which they are connecting, e.g., based on
   the isuer, MAC address, or organizational information specified in
   the certificate.  The identities specified in the certificates bind a
   particular DTLS session to a specific pair of mutually-authenticated
   and authorized MAC addresses.  The particulars of authorization
   filter construction are implementation details which are, for the
   most part, not within the scope of this specification.  However, at
   minimum, all devices MUST verify that the appropriate EKU bit is set
   according to the role of the peer device (AC vs. WTP), and that the
   issuer of the certificate is appropriate for the domain in question.

</text>

PatC 

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [Capwap] Issue 31: Peer Authorization is optional

The draft currently makes peer authorization optional. We need to make
it mandatory, but allow for the authorization to be lightweight (e.g.,
check against an ACL that has a default permit rule).

The text is:

   Authorize to DTLS Teardown (k):  This transition occurs to notify the
      DTLS stack that the session should be aborted.

      WTP:  This state transition occurs when the WTP was unable to
         authorize the AC, using the AC credentials.  The WTP then
         aborts the DTLS session by invoking the DTLSAbortSession
         command (see Section 2.3.2.1).

      AC:  This state transition occurs when the AC was unable to
         authorize the WTP, using the WTP credentials.  The AC then
         aborts the DTLS session by invoking the DTLSAbortSession
         command (see Section 2.3.2.1).

PatC
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Smitha,
 
Thanks for pointing out this error. The fix is actually quite simple, as
there was a typo in the text below. The text currently reads:
"The WTP also starts the ChangeStatePendingTimer timer (see Section
4.7)."

But instead should have read:
"The AC also starts the ChangeStatePendingTimer timer (see Section
4.7)."

There is already text in the Configure to Reset state transition that
covers the case where the ChangeStatePendingTimer timer expires.

Thanks,

PatC
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From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 2:27 PM
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Unfortunately this message got lost in the shuffle. I have created
tracker entry 25.
 
PatC

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From: Smitha Smitha (ssmitha) 
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 7:52 PM
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The definition for ChangeStatePendingTimer is as given below:
 
  The maximum time, in seconds, the AC will wait for the Change State
   Event Request from the WTP after having transmitted a successful
   Configuration Status Response message.  The default value is 25
   seconds
 
So - according to this ChangeStatePendingTimer is started after sending
configuration status response.
 
Transition from Join to Configure:
 
  AC:  This state transition occurs immediately after the AC
         transmits the Join Response message to the WTP.  If the AC
         receives the Configuration Status message from the WTP, the AC
         MUST transmit a Configuration Status Response message (see
         Section 8.3) to the WTP, and MAY include specific message
         elements to override the WTP's configuration.  The WTP also
         starts the ChangeStatePendingTimer timer (see Section 4.7).

This does not clarify when ChangeStatePendingTimer is started and also
no timer is started after sending a Join Response message to the WTP. If
the WTP never sends a Configuration Status message, AC will hold the
DTLS session. So, I think we should start the neighbor dead interval
timer after sending join response. That will solve the issue.
 
Thanks
Smitha
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Sam,

This is a topic that has already been raised and closed. I am including
part of an e-mail exchange on the list where this was discussed. I can
also point you to
http://www.capwap.org/cgi-bin/roundup.old/CAPWAP/issue228, which is the
old tracker entry where more information can be found.

I would like to close this issue, as it is redundant, but want to make
sure you are ok with it first.

PatC



> At the CAPWAP meeting last week, Pat expressed concern about the 
> complexity introduced by the need for applications to manage their own

> rekeying for DTLS, and he asked if there was some alternative. If you 
> read the current draft text, you'll get a feel for just how complex 
> this is. You have to take into account all the edge cases, e.g. both 
> sides start rekeying at the same time, one side tries but the other 
> side never responds, etc, and then you also have to clearly specify 
> how to transition to the new keys once they are established - 
> synchronization is harder than you might guess.
>  It's a difficult operational problem, and we have years of experience

> with this in IPsec.
> 
> There are a few reasons we might want to periodically refresh 
> cryptographic keys, but how frequently depends on a number of factors.

> If there is high risk that someone will crack open the box and get 
> your active keys, then you might want to rekey frequently to minimize 
> the amount of data they can get access to. Other reasons people 
> frequently cite for rekeying:
> to minimize the data a cryptanalyst has to work with, or to prevent 
> leakage that may occur with block cipher algorithms.
> 
> If we ignore the risk of exposing lots of data to someone who gets 
> hold of active keys*, the primary practical reason we (in CAPWAP) 
> currently need to rekey is because we have specified support for 3DES 
> as one of our cryptographic algorithms. Since 3DES has a 64-bit block 
> size, by the birthday paradox we should expect to begin seeing 
> ciphertext collisions after about 2^32 blocks have been encrypted, and

> ciphertext collisions leak significant information about the 
> associated plaintext (if you want to know why, email me privately and 
> I'll explain).
> 
> As it turns out, on a busy gigabit network it doesn't take very long 
> to hit the birthday number if your block size is 64 bits. If the gigE 
> pipe was stuffed full of minimum-sized DTLS packets, it would take 
> around 59 minutes. If the pipe were instead stuffed full of 
> maximum-sized DTLS packets, it would only take around 5 minutes. Since

> in reality the actual maximum throughput would be something less than 
> 1 gigabit and we would not have it stuffed full all of the time, it 
> would usually take longer than this, but the point is that we expect 
> capwap sessions to be alive *far* longer than this - there is a real 
> risk here.
> 
> Okay, so going back to where we started, if we ignore the threat of 
> actively cracking live keys, we have to rekey only because we're 
> trying to support 3DES. Ciphers with a 128-bit block size (e.g. AES) 
> don't have the collision problem. For minimum sized packets using AES,

> we would expect it to take more than 519,428 *years* to start seeing 
> collisions, and for maximum-sized packets this only falls to just 
> under 80,000 years. Bottom line: if we don't support 3DES (or any 
> other ciphers with less than a 128-bit block size), we don't have this

> problem.
> 
> Charles and I discussed this, and then I checked with Russ Housley, 
> and none of us object to removing support for 3DES (and rekeying), and

> adding language expliaining that if in the future somone wants to 
> support a block cipher having a 64-bit block length, they will need to

> contemplate adding rekeying support at the same time.
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Note that I am closing this issue as well since no additional comments
were received.

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I have no issues with this change request.

PatC 

-----Original Message-----
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Unfortunately this message got lost in the shuffle. I have created
tracker entry 27.

PatC


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From: Puneet Agarwal [mailto:pagarwal@broadcom.com]
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 2:44 PM
To: capwap@frascone.com
Subject: [Capwap] capwap -07 spec comment


In section 4.4.2 (pg 43-44) the spec states: " IEEE 802.3 encapsulation
requires that the bridging function be performed in the WTP".
 
This looks incorrect based on section 2.1.2 of the ieee80211-04 spec for
local MAC definition.
 
Suggested text: "IEEE 802.3 encapsulation requires that for 802.11
frames, the 802.11 *Integration* function be performed in the WTP".
 
Another option would be to delete this sentence altogether.
 
Thanks.
 
-Puneet
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Sam,

You seem to be talking about two separate issues below. The first is how
the trust anchor is known. If we are talking about manufacturing certs,
the root certificate is typically embedded in the device, or it can be
fetched using <insert favorite cert fetching protocol here>. Would
adding this specific text address your issue?

The second one you seem to talk about is how a WTP is deployed. Are you
asking how a certificate is provisioned on the WTP, or are you asking
more about how the access control list is configured? The text in
section 2.4.4.3 discusses the concept of the ACL, but doesn't actually
describe the use case (e.g., receive box, open box, read MAC address,
add MAC address to access control list). 

Could you provide more clarity?

Thanks,

PatC
> 4) I expected to find some discussion of trust anchors in the document
>    and was surprised not to see any.  Also, I expected to find some
>    reference to the certificate validation algorithm in RFC 3280.  The
>    second point  is minor; there is certificate validation text and it
>    may well be good enough.  The point about discussing trust anchors
>    is bigger.
>
> I do realize that trust anchors are a difficult topic.  If I get a WTP

> that has never been configured and arrives in a box from some 
> manufacturer, how exactly is it supposed to know who to trust at my 
> cite.  You should say something though or have an explanation of why 
> you couldn't say anything.
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Hi Sam,

Thanks for taking time out of your very busy schedule to review this very long document. Rather than in-lining responses, I'll try to summarize here.

Before addressing individual items, I think it would be helpful to give you some background. This set of specs derives from the LWAPP protocol, which was first documented in the IETF early in 2003 (if memory serves). LWAPP used a proprietary security protocol which relied on certs for authentication, but did not support pre-shared keys.

Not long after LWAPP was selected as the basis for CAPWAP, the working group decided to replace this proprietary security protocol with DTLS. However, efforts were made to minimize the disruption to LWAPP (inasmuch as that was even possible). Hence, numerous artifacts survived (e.g. the MAC address in the CN of the certs). At least one vendor has lots of devices commercially deployed which already contain such certs, and we want to accommodate this.

More than a year ago, there were questions on the mailing list very similar to yours with respect to trust anchors, cert lifecycle mgmt, and other topics.  I don't think I was alone in my feeling that the topics are sufficiently complex that they would not be addressed in a few paragraphs, and represent a significant work item in their own right. I think we had general agreement that, while these topics must be addressed in order to guarantee cross-vendor interoperability, they are not essential to getting usable protocol specs out.

Like any working group, we've had a limited amount of energy available, and fully specifying cert usage will require significant effort. Deferring this work while still allowing for (and providing rough guidelines for) cert use is meant to be a pragmatic compromise. We can achieve interoperability today using pre-shared keys, and perhaps even some limited interoperability with certs based on this rough outline. I think we've been assuming we could more fully address certificate usage as a potential work item in a re-chartering discussion. 

Now, with respect to your individual points:

> 2)  Section 2.4.4.3  should specify the handling of the
>     anyExtendedKeyUsage keyPurposeID.

In keeping with our desire to defer details not essential to the most basic interoperability, use of key purpose IDs that are not essential to CAPWAP operation seem like good candidates for discussion in a re-chartered group. If you think it's strictly necessary, we could say that this kpID MAY be present, and SHOULD be ignored, but if we later decide that it SHOULD NOT or MUST NOT be present, that will cause problems. It might be better to just remain silent for now.

For item 3, yes, certs are expected to have MAC addresses in the CN field, and this is an artifact of LWAPP (which was initially an L2 protocol, later adapted for L3). As for what MAC the AP "expects", we have not specified this, and I expect that is fair game for a re-chartering discussion. However, you raise a good point: unless WTPs are preconfigured with this MAC address and use that as a basis for comparison, it is meaningless for the AC to have this in its cert (aside from its value in  auditing). For the WTP's cert, as Pat pointed out, the WTP MAC can be in a pre-configured policy on the AC (or on a AAA server).

On your comment regarding the MAC being specific to 802.11, nice catch! We've all been staring at this for so many years that I think that point eluded us. If this is to remain, we may want to move this to the 802.11 binding document.

As for the authorization question, we have chosen to punt on that for now. Again, to fully specify cert usage will probably require a document of significant size, and a significant effort on the part of the working group.

As for caching, rollover, etc., these are things we've chosen to punt to a re-chartered group. We could add a few lines suggesting offline provisioning of trust anchors and initial credentials, but it's not clear where to draw the line on such discussions.

If you believe that fully specifying the details around trust anchors and certificate lifecycles is a necessary precursor to publishing the base specs, then I think this wg may want to consider entirely removing certificate discussions from the first rev of the specs (and only support preshared keys) so that we can publish, and move the certificate discussion to a re-charter discussion. However, I hope this is not the case.

If you agree with the basic premise (it is possible to publish specs which only outline cert usage, and we can follow up later with more detailed specs), does that alter your view of what is required?

Thanks again for taking the time to review this,

Scott


-----Original Message-----
>From: Margaret Wasserman <margaret@thingmagic.com>
>Sent: Dec 21, 2007 3:03 AM
>To: capwap <capwap@frascone.com>
>Cc: hartmans-ietf@mit.edu
>Subject: [Capwap] Fwd: Comments on draft-ietf-capwap-protocol-specification
>
>
>Forwarded for Sam Hartman, who is not on the CAPWAP WG mailing list.
>
>Margaret
>
>Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf@mit.edu>
>> Date: December 20, 2007 9:44:56 PM EST
>> To: capwap@frascone.com
>> Cc: capwap-chairs@tools.ietf.org
>> Subject: Comments on draft-ietf-capwap-protocol-specification
>>
>>
>> Hi.  I was looking at the certificate validation in version 08 of the
>> protocol spec and wanted to report these comments to the WG for
>>  consideration.
>>
>>
>> 1) The document really should have a table of contents.  Table of
>>    contents are an important part of making reviewers lives easier
>>    looking at what a document covers.  Please please fix this before
>>    ietf last call.
>>
>> 2)  Section 2.4.4.3  should specify the handling of the
>>     anyExtendedKeyUsage keyPurposeID.
>>
>> 3)  The naming rules in section 2.4.4.3 seem to be somewhat I'm
>> 3)  confused by the certificate naming in 2.4.4.3.  It seems that
>> 3)  certificates are expected to have a MAC address in the CN field of
>> 3)  the certificate.
>>
>> * How does a WTP know which MAC address it expects the AC to have?
>>   This seems reasonably obvious if they are on-link, but what about
>>   when there is a router in between?  Is the client actually going to
>>   know that it is connecting to a specific MAC?    How is this name
>>   bound to something the WTP actually knows it is trying to access?
>>
>> * ISn't the MAC address rather specific to the 802.11 application?  Is
>>   it really an appropriate name to use for other uses of capwap?
>>   Again, how will you know that the authorization is used the right
>>   way?
>>
>> * This is a minor point, but how do you handle an AC (or non-802.11
>>   WTP) that does not have a MAC address?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 4) I expected to find some discussion of trust anchors in the document
>>    and was surprised not to see any.  Also, I expected to find some
>>    reference to the certificate validation algorithm in RFC 3280.  The
>>    second point  is minor; there is certificate validation text and it
>>    may well be good enough.  The point about discussing trust anchors
>>    is bigger.
>>
>> I do realize that trust anchors are a difficult topic.  If I get a WTP
>> that has never been configured and arrives in a box from some
>> manufacturer, how exactly is it supposed to know who to trust at my
>> cite.  You should say something though or have an explanation of why
>> you couldn't say anything.
>>
>> 5)  The ssh-style leap of faith caching  is great for initial
>>     configuration.  However it tends to be problematic for supporting
>>     key rollover.
>> Has any thought been given to how long to cache leap of faith entries
>>     in capwap or how to support key and certificate rollover in this
>>     situation?
>>
>> Thanks for your consideration,
>>
>> --Sam
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I think Sam was referring to certificate-related key pairs, not session keys.

-----Original Message-----
>From: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" <pcalhoun@cisco.com>
>Sent: Dec 21, 2007 11:34 AM
>To: capwap@frascone.com
>Cc: Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf@mit.edu>
>Subject: [Capwap] Issue 37: Key Rollover issue
>
>Sam,
>
>This is a topic that has already been raised and closed. I am including
>part of an e-mail exchange on the list where this was discussed. I can
>also point you to
>http://www.capwap.org/cgi-bin/roundup.old/CAPWAP/issue228, which is the
>old tracker entry where more information can be found.
>
>I would like to close this issue, as it is redundant, but want to make
>sure you are ok with it first.
>
>PatC
>
>
>
>> At the CAPWAP meeting last week, Pat expressed concern about the 
>> complexity introduced by the need for applications to manage their own
>
>> rekeying for DTLS, and he asked if there was some alternative. If you 
>> read the current draft text, you'll get a feel for just how complex 
>> this is. You have to take into account all the edge cases, e.g. both 
>> sides start rekeying at the same time, one side tries but the other 
>> side never responds, etc, and then you also have to clearly specify 
>> how to transition to the new keys once they are established - 
>> synchronization is harder than you might guess.
>>  It's a difficult operational problem, and we have years of experience
>
>> with this in IPsec.
>> 
>> There are a few reasons we might want to periodically refresh 
>> cryptographic keys, but how frequently depends on a number of factors.
>
>> If there is high risk that someone will crack open the box and get 
>> your active keys, then you might want to rekey frequently to minimize 
>> the amount of data they can get access to. Other reasons people 
>> frequently cite for rekeying:
>> to minimize the data a cryptanalyst has to work with, or to prevent 
>> leakage that may occur with block cipher algorithms.
>> 
>> If we ignore the risk of exposing lots of data to someone who gets 
>> hold of active keys*, the primary practical reason we (in CAPWAP) 
>> currently need to rekey is because we have specified support for 3DES 
>> as one of our cryptographic algorithms. Since 3DES has a 64-bit block 
>> size, by the birthday paradox we should expect to begin seeing 
>> ciphertext collisions after about 2^32 blocks have been encrypted, and
>
>> ciphertext collisions leak significant information about the 
>> associated plaintext (if you want to know why, email me privately and 
>> I'll explain).
>> 
>> As it turns out, on a busy gigabit network it doesn't take very long 
>> to hit the birthday number if your block size is 64 bits. If the gigE 
>> pipe was stuffed full of minimum-sized DTLS packets, it would take 
>> around 59 minutes. If the pipe were instead stuffed full of 
>> maximum-sized DTLS packets, it would only take around 5 minutes. Since
>
>> in reality the actual maximum throughput would be something less than 
>> 1 gigabit and we would not have it stuffed full all of the time, it 
>> would usually take longer than this, but the point is that we expect 
>> capwap sessions to be alive *far* longer than this - there is a real 
>> risk here.
>> 
>> Okay, so going back to where we started, if we ignore the threat of 
>> actively cracking live keys, we have to rekey only because we're 
>> trying to support 3DES. Ciphers with a 128-bit block size (e.g. AES) 
>> don't have the collision problem. For minimum sized packets using AES,
>
>> we would expect it to take more than 519,428 *years* to start seeing 
>> collisions, and for maximum-sized packets this only falls to just 
>> under 80,000 years. Bottom line: if we don't support 3DES (or any 
>> other ciphers with less than a 128-bit block size), we don't have this
>
>> problem.
>> 
>> Charles and I discussed this, and then I checked with Russ Housley, 
>> and none of us object to removing support for 3DES (and rekeying), and
>
>> adding language expliaining that if in the future somone wants to 
>> support a block cipher having a 64-bit block length, they will need to
>
>> contemplate adding rekeying support at the same time.
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Scott,

 > I'm really surprised you helped Pat design these state machine
 > changes, after saying pretty much the same things I say above in your
 > response to his issuer tracker post. Was there some compelling
 > argument that changed your mind? If so, please share it - I am not
 > intransigent in my position, but from what I can see, what you guys
 > are proposing makes no sense, and only serves to make the state
 > machine in the document conform to an implementation which maintains
 > discovery state.

Issue #30 was originally about maintaining state from Discovery to DTLS 
setup, which we can all agree is a bad idea.  In an attempt to better 
clarify how the AC state machine works, to prevent implementors from 
doing stupid things, the idea of global state and per-WTP state emerged, 
and the state machine tries to capture that.

The idle->discovery->idle loop is global AC state, and not per-WTP.  It 
represents the global AC listener thread receiving a discovery request, 
and sending a discovery response, but has nothing to do with per-WTP state.

In my opinion, the changes will make it harder for an implementor to 
create an implementation that creates per-WTP state before it is 
required, and helps protect against DoS attacks.

I think we're all in agreement about the design goals, but are 
misunderstanding each others' ways to meet those goals.

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