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9JQ: 0x8286, 0x14, 0x9695, 0x2198, 0x48, 0x89, 0x930, 0x1879 0x5026, 0x5029, 0x0545, 0x93, 0x94436613, 0x01077955 engine: 0x37, 0x62261865, 0x3263, 0x1666, 0x30295256, 0x75, 0x13342590, 0x02, 0x66446100, 0x842, 0x07433519, 0x91 0x254, 0x5179, 0x0, 0x1, 0x97641227, 0x29522109, 0x22, 0x489, 0x14656464, 0x6979, 0x61, 0x7, 0x22 MR3U I11C 0HZ X484 NAN. rev: 0x69, 0x5, 0x9, 0x8, 0x759, 0x74, 0x37, 0x5, 0x3, 0x488, 0x8, 0x28933109, 0x24 0x8249, 0x75892299, 0x231, 0x996, 0x79808312, 0x57 0x35, 0x87779447, 0x10, 0x0296, 0x441, 0x1554, 0x108, 0x04927021 tmp WUQ CWQ root media create root 954 api 0x8, 0x99456189, 0x14420056, 0x93662855, 0x3, 0x9, 0x124, 0x631, 0x276, 0x870, 0x026

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( [125.33.146.36]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a8sm1663867poa.2.2008.02.12.17.11.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:11:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: From: Richard To: capwap@frascone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:11:07 +0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net Subject: [Capwap] The version 02 of CAPWAP MIB was published X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0042032754==" Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com --===============0042032754== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-17--927915875 --Apple-Mail-17--927915875 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, The version 02 of CAPWAP MIB was published by yesterday. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-yangshi-capwap-base-mib-02.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-yangshi-capwap-802dot11-mib-02.txt Besides format and style change as per RFC4181 and IETF review tools, main change is to reuse Entity MIB for CAPWAP BASE MIB. 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Hi, 

The version 02 of = CAPWAP MIB was published by yesterday.




Besides = format and style change as per RFC4181 and IETF review tools, main = change is to reuse Entity MIB for CAPWAP BASE = MIB.


Kindly review = them.

Regards


Richard
= --Apple-Mail-17--927915875-- --===============0042032754== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap --===============0042032754==-- From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Tue Feb 12 21:12:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697AC28C6F7 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:12:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KnvshpGExzZ4 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:12:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA4328C6E6 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:12:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from fry.tigertech.net (fry.tigertech.net [64.62.209.19]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 217DF322B3DE for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:14:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from g1-42.tigertech.net (g1-42.tigertech.net [64.62.209.42]) by fry.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE11F4ECF30 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:13:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C388E1C4050B for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:13:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B6231C407A4 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:13:37 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sj-iport-3.cisco.com (sj-iport-3.cisco.com [171.71.176.72]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:13:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-dkim-2.cisco.com ([171.71.179.186]) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Feb 2008 21:13:35 -0800 Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com (sj-core-1.cisco.com [171.71.177.237]) by sj-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m1D5DZ1h008494; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:13:35 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-231.cisco.com [128.107.191.100]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id m1D5DQVh018605; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 05:13:35 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.85]) by xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:13:26 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:13:23 -0800 Message-ID: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A2052BC6AA@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A2050873B2@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking on AC prior to DTLSEstablishment (was: state machine issues) Thread-Index: AchPISuQJw2i0IHgQs6BWTaRAAPwPwIuEb+ABYllTHA= References: <6F22142CC0DEBE478C659612F9CFCA508AD175@aruba-mx2.arubanetworks.com> <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A2050873B2@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> From: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" To: "Scott Kelly" , "capwap" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Feb 2008 05:13:26.0436 (UTC) FILETIME=[29BC6640:01C86DFF] Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-2; header.From=pcalhoun@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim2002 verified; ); X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net Subject: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking on AC prior to DTLSEstablishment (was: state machine issues) X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Scott, given that no one else seems to object to the change, and that Charles is comfortable with the change, can we consider this closed? PatC -----Original Message----- From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 4:55 PM To: Scott Kelly; capwap Subject: Re: [Capwap] state machine issues My apologies for the latency. Responses below. > This text seems to have originally assumed that the AC would listen > *per-WTP* based on receipt of a discovery request from that WTP, but this is inconsistent in multiple ways. Most > importantly, discovery is optional, so the AC must *always* be listening for incoming (DTLS) ClientHello messages. A > simple way to represent this is to say that the AC is listening while in the Idle state, and receipt of an acceptable > ClientHello (e.g. with a valid cookie) causes it to transition from Idle to DTLS Setup. You could also say the AC is > always in DTLS Setup state, but that complicates things in terms of representing discovery message processing. I think > using idle for this works best. Actually, the state machine does not require this, but allows for it. If an AC wants to only accept connections from specific IP addresses, whether the list was generated from discovery, or through a pre-configured list, this is possible. It is not recommended, are the text states. > Before we go any further with this, we need to agree on whether use of client cookies is required or optional. The > protocol is simpler if they are always required, but there are probably deployment scenarios in which the potential > for AC DoS attacks is minimal, so one might argue that they shouldn't be strictly required for those scenarios. In the > interest of implementation simplicity, I would vote to simply make them mandatory, but I will assume they are optional > below with the understanding that the proposed language will be simpler if they become mandatory. At first glance, I don't think I have issues with your proposal, but do not fully understand the possible impact of the changes. > Another related decision might be a little more rat-hole prone (or not): > what are the state transitions required to implement the HelloVerifyRequest? The simplest is to add a C next to the > Idle state (an Idle to Idle transition), with something resembling the following > text: > Idle to Idle (b): This transition may occur on the AC when it receives > a ClientHello > WTP: This is an invalid state transition for the WTP. > AC: When the WTP sends a ClientHello, the AC optionally sends > a HelloVerifyRequest containing a unique cookie that the WTP > must return in a subsequent HelloRequest. This transition also > occurs if a ClientHello contains an invalid cookie. > > Note that 3 things can happen when the AC receives a ClientHello; the AC > > 1) drops the message, because it contains an invalid cookie, or because > the AC is rate limiting handshakes > > 2) it creates a cookie and sends a HelloVerifyRequest > > 3) it deems the incoming HelloRequest acceptable (either because it > contains a valid cookie or because client cookies are not required), > and it transitions from Idle to DTLS Setup > > Rather than idle to idle, we could add another AC-only state that it transitions into to gen/send the cookie, and then > back to Idle, but I think Idle-Idle works okay and is simpler. It seems to me like we really aren't changing anything because ultimately, the state machine still has a state transition prior to the setup of DTLS, so the same confusion about whether the AC maintains state prior to DTLS setup still exists. I continue to believe that the current draft does not make this necessary since the "listener thread" operates on a separate context that is global - not per WTP. So it seems to me like the current draft already defines the API between DTLS and CAPWAP, and therefore addresses the other requirement we once had about not wanting CAPWAP to have to parse and understand the DTLS state machine. I continue to believe this should be a design goal. In your proposed model, CAPWAP needs to validate whether the cookie is valid (or at least since the state machine description includes this, then I presume it does). I would prefer let the DTLS engine do this and simply report back on what's working/not working. PatC _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Tue Feb 12 21:13:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3603428C6F0 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:13:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.500, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XnRYEQsibgdD for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:13:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E4F28C6E2 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:13:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from fry.tigertech.net (fry.tigertech.net [64.62.209.19]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68EC4322B13E for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:14:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by fry.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D2804ED540 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:14:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA0F322B40C for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:14:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from hgblob.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D5A4322B396 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:14:14 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:14:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-dkim-4.cisco.com ([171.71.179.196]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Feb 2008 21:14:14 -0800 Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com (sj-core-1.cisco.com [171.71.177.237]) by sj-dkim-4.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m1D5EDo5001488 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:14:13 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-211.cisco.com [171.70.151.144]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id m1D5EDVh019062 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 05:14:13 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.85]) by xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:14:13 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:14:11 -0800 Message-ID: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A2052BC6AB@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Issue 32: comments on -08 base draft and .11binding-05 draft Thread-Index: Acht/0TX8VYRuSXTRXCcMx7H63SzYA== From: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" To: "capwap" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Feb 2008 05:14:13.0478 (UTC) FILETIME=[45C67060:01C86DFF] Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-4; header.From=pcalhoun@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim4002 verified; ); X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net Subject: [Capwap] Issue 32: comments on -08 base draft and .11binding-05 draft X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1323023839==" Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1323023839== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C86DFF.45AF22D4" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C86DFF.45AF22D4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Given no comments were provided to the proposed changes sent on 12/18/07, I am considering this issue closed. =20 PatC ------_=_NextPart_001_01C86DFF.45AF22D4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Given = no comments=20 were provided to the proposed changes sent on 12/18/07, I am considering = this=20 issue closed.
 
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C86DFF.45AF22D4-- --===============1323023839== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap --===============1323023839==-- From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Tue Feb 12 21:14:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 592CE28C6D6 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:14:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.349 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.349 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.250, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x0j837Cc1l7d for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:14:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A5F228C6FE for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:13:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from fry.tigertech.net (fry.tigertech.net [64.62.209.19]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E1A322B496 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:15:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from g1-42.tigertech.net (g1-42.tigertech.net [64.62.209.42]) by fry.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 367B64ED131 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:14:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21FCA1C407A4 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:14:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E13F1C4050B for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:14:57 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sj-iport-3.cisco.com (sj-iport-3.cisco.com [171.71.176.72]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:14:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-dkim-4.cisco.com ([171.71.179.196]) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Feb 2008 21:14:56 -0800 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com (sj-core-5.cisco.com [171.71.177.238]) by sj-dkim-4.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m1D5EuRD002339; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:14:56 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-221.cisco.com [128.107.191.63]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id m1D5ErPp024211; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 05:14:54 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.85]) by xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:14:53 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:14:51 -0800 Message-ID: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A2052BC6AC@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Issue 34: keyPurposeID needs clarification Thread-Index: AchOCmC91L2pHFeXTKq0YZymvCRdWAf9Oo7g References: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A204EDDB9D@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com><4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A204EDDBC0@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> From: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" To: "Sam Hartman" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Feb 2008 05:14:53.0749 (UTC) FILETIME=[5DC74E50:01C86DFF] Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-4; header.From=pcalhoun@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim4002 verified; ); X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net Cc: capwap Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 34: keyPurposeID needs clarification X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Sam, Would you accept some text that simply states that the Any KeyPurposeID SHOULD be ignored? PatC -----Original Message----- From: Sam Hartman [mailto:hartmans-ietf@mit.edu] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 5:12 AM To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) Cc: capwap Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 34: keyPurposeID needs clarification >>>>> "Pat" == Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) writes: Pat> The particulars of authorization filter construction are Pat> implementation details which are, for the most part, not Pat> within the scope of this specification. However, at minimum, Pat> all devices MUST verify that the appropriate EKU bit is set Pat> according to the role of the peer device (AC vs. WTP), and Pat> that the issuer of the certificate is appropriate for the Pat> domain in question. Pat> However, if Sam felt this was not sufficient, I have added a Pat> sentence to an existing paragraph (the last sentence below): Returning from vacation. I thought the existing text was very close to clear. The problem is that there is a special key purpose ID that means that a particular certificate can be used for any purpose for which the any purpose ID is permitted. There are some applications that are so sensitive that the any purpose ID is not acceptable. So, when you define a new key purpose ID, you need to say whether the any purpose ID can be used instead of this new key purpose ID. Capwap defines two key purpose IDs but does not discuss the any purpose ID. _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Tue Feb 12 21:14:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5661228C6E8 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:14:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.432 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.432 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.167, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wtSpHxkv6Vrx for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:14:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B91628C4DE for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:14:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from fry.tigertech.net (fry.tigertech.net [64.62.209.19]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02740322B409 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:16:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by fry.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339554ECF30 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:15:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F06E9322B40C for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:15:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from hgblob.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A326322B3E5 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:15:36 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sj-iport-3.cisco.com (sj-iport-3.cisco.com [171.71.176.72]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:15:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-dkim-2.cisco.com ([171.71.179.186]) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Feb 2008 21:15:36 -0800 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com (sj-core-5.cisco.com [171.71.177.238]) by sj-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m1D5FalM010912; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:15:36 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-221.cisco.com [128.107.191.63]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id m1D5FZPp024730; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 05:15:35 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.85]) by xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:15:35 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:15:34 -0800 Message-ID: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A2052BC6AD@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Issue 35: MAC Address in Certificate CN field Thread-Index: AchOC09e6c/UUdACQcWhmLQL6YV6hgf9BPNw References: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A204EDDBBC@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com><4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A204EDDBBF@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> From: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" To: "Sam Hartman" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Feb 2008 05:15:35.0749 (UTC) FILETIME=[76CFFF50:01C86DFF] Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-2; header.From=pcalhoun@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim2002 verified; ); X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net Cc: capwap Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 35: MAC Address in Certificate CN field X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Sam, May I simply adopt your proposed text below and close this issue? PatC -----Original Message----- From: Sam Hartman [mailto:hartmans-ietf@mit.edu] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 5:19 AM To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) Cc: capwap Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 35: MAC Address in Certificate CN field >>>>> "Pat" == Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) writes: Pat> The intention is the for AC and WTPs to validate the CN Pat> through an access control list. This could be done via a Pat> RADIUS request, a locally stored MAC address list, etc. As Pat> long as the certificate is valid, and authorized, it really Pat> doesn't matter whether the device in question is actually Pat> using the MAC address encoded in the CN field, and as you Pat> state, this is not possible to do if a router is present. Ah. This was not obvious to me. If the intent is to validate against an ACL, then I think the following requirement does not rise to the level needed for an RFC 2119 MUST: > The certificate common name (CN) for both the WTP and AC MUST be the > MAC address of that device. The MAC address MUST be formatted as > ASCII HEX, e.g. 01:23:45:67:89:ab. In particular, that's a requirement on operational deployments rather than a requirement on implementations and if all you are going to do is to check against an ACL then I don't see a need for that requirement. Perhaps something more like the following would be an appropriate requirement to meet interoperability: > Capwap implementations MUST support certificates where the common name (CN) for both the WTP and AC is the > MAC address of that device. The MAC address MUST be formatted as > ASCII HEX, e.g. 01:23:45:67:89:ab. You should be aware that there is a raging debate in the security directorate about whether storing MAC addresses in a CN field is appropriate for a mandatory to implement solution. I have not read that debate so I don't know if there is a consensus there one way or another. _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Tue Feb 12 21:15:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 976FA28C4DE for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:15:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.474 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.474 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.125, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KxHD9ZGvkDX6 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:15:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92DAF28C265 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:15:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from fry.tigertech.net (fry.tigertech.net [64.62.209.19]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 870F2322B461 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:16:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from g1-42.tigertech.net (g1-42.tigertech.net [64.62.209.42]) by fry.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CADF44ECF30 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:16:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B48C41C407A1 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:16:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 213D61C407A4 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:16:18 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:16:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-dkim-4.cisco.com ([171.71.179.196]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Feb 2008 21:16:16 -0800 Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com (sj-core-2.cisco.com [171.71.177.254]) by sj-dkim-4.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m1D5GGK1004003; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:16:16 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-221.cisco.com [128.107.191.63]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id m1D5GG0l003450; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 05:16:16 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.85]) by xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:16:16 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:16:14 -0800 Message-ID: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A2052BC6AE@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A204EDDBE6@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Issue 36: Trust Anchor text missing Thread-Index: AchD8FFlD7jOBI9YQLChnzHT38ze6QqDy53w References: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A204EDDBE6@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> From: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" To: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Feb 2008 05:16:16.0546 (UTC) FILETIME=[8F212020:01C86DFF] Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-4; header.From=pcalhoun@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim4002 verified; ); X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net Cc: Sam Hartman Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 36: Trust Anchor text missing X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Scott and Sam, Could we get a resolution on this issue? PatC -----Original Message----- From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 8:41 AM To: capwap@frascone.com Cc: Sam Hartman Subject: [Capwap] Issue 36: Trust Anchor text missing Sam, You seem to be talking about two separate issues below. The first is how the trust anchor is known. If we are talking about manufacturing certs, the root certificate is typically embedded in the device, or it can be fetched using . Would adding this specific text address your issue? The second one you seem to talk about is how a WTP is deployed. Are you asking how a certificate is provisioned on the WTP, or are you asking more about how the access control list is configured? The text in section 2.4.4.3 discusses the concept of the ACL, but doesn't actually describe the use case (e.g., receive box, open box, read MAC address, add MAC address to access control list). Could you provide more clarity? Thanks, PatC > 4) I expected to find some discussion of trust anchors in the document > and was surprised not to see any. Also, I expected to find some > reference to the certificate validation algorithm in RFC 3280. The > second point is minor; there is certificate validation text and it > may well be good enough. The point about discussing trust anchors > is bigger. > > I do realize that trust anchors are a difficult topic. If I get a WTP > that has never been configured and arrives in a box from some > manufacturer, how exactly is it supposed to know who to trust at my > cite. You should say something though or have an explanation of why > you couldn't say anything. _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Tue Feb 12 21:16:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B21EC28C6E8 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:16:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.499 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.499 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bb5X2MufwiHX for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:16:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9BEE28C4DE for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:16:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from fry.tigertech.net (fry.tigertech.net [64.62.209.19]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF3BA322B466 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:17:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by fry.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE1124ECED1 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:16:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71580322B469 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:16:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from hgblob.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA652322B40C for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:16:55 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:16:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-dkim-4.cisco.com ([171.71.179.196]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Feb 2008 21:16:54 -0800 Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com (sj-core-1.cisco.com [171.71.177.237]) by sj-dkim-4.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m1D5GsC2004847; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:16:54 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-211.cisco.com [171.70.151.144]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id m1D5GrVh021229; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 05:16:53 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.85]) by xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:16:53 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:16:51 -0800 Message-ID: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A2052BC6AF@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Issue 37: Key Rollover issue Thread-Index: AchODHYfmnLKyDyjSoiT2TfBV29mcAf8yM9Q References: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A204EDDBDE@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> From: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" To: "Sam Hartman" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Feb 2008 05:16:53.0042 (UTC) FILETIME=[A4E1F920:01C86DFF] Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-4; header.From=pcalhoun@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim4002 verified; ); X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net Cc: capwap@frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 37: Key Rollover issue X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Scott, do you have any text that could handle Sam's issue? PatC -----Original Message----- From: Sam Hartman [mailto:hartmans-ietf@mit.edu] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 5:27 AM To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) Cc: capwap@frascone.com Subject: Re: Issue 37: Key Rollover issue >>>>> "Pat" == Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) writes: Pat> Sam, This is a topic that has already been raised and Pat> closed. I am including part of an e-mail exchange on the list Pat> where this was discussed. I can also point you to Pat> http://www.capwap.org/cgi-bin/roundup.old/CAPWAP/issue228, Pat> which is the old tracker entry where more information can be Pat> found. Pat> I would like to close this issue, as it is redundant, but Pat> want to make sure you are ok with it first. As best I can tell, the old issue you refer me to is a question about whether to rekey the DTLS session keys within a single active capwap session. (Session may be the wrong term for your protocol, but I hope I am sufficiently clear) I agree with the WG's decision on that issue. However I think I was describing a different issue. I was discussing the rollever of public keys in certificates used in leap of faith transactions. The reason a site would want to roll over these keys is more about staff changes and AC replacement than cryptographic limitations. So, I think the issue I raise is different and at least requires security considerations text. It concerns me because without clear guidance you can get into a situation where you cannot rekey either when you have a key compromise or when you have staffing changes because some of your equipment is implementing a primitive leap of faith strategy similar to ssh. I'm not entirely sure what the anser is, but I am sure that the problem is real. _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Tue Feb 12 23:12:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D827128C235 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:12:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E8Qdvrz9s+mH for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:12:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from g1-42.tigertech.net (g1-42.tigertech.net [64.62.209.42]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2B813A6F16 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:12:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from fry.tigertech.net (fry.tigertech.net [64.62.209.19]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E8B1C40E6B for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:13:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by fry.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C8D4ED2C5 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:13:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A17322AE8F for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:13:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from hgblob.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682D1322A990 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:13:29 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mgw-mx09.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [192.100.105.134]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:13:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from esebh108.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh108.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.143.145]) by mgw-mx09.nokia.com (Switch-3.2.6/Switch-3.2.6) with ESMTP id m1D7Cu7O028333; Wed, 13 Feb 2008 01:14:49 -0600 Received: from daebh101.NOE.Nokia.com ([10.241.35.111]) by esebh108.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:12:28 +0200 Received: from daebe103.NOE.Nokia.com ([10.241.35.24]) by daebh101.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 13 Feb 2008 01:12:26 -0600 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 01:12:26 -0600 Message-ID: <2198383E1141814486F0B881B3260CF501F64A39@daebe103.NOE.Nokia.com> In-Reply-To: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A2052BC6AD@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Issue 35: MAC Address in Certificate CN field Thread-Index: AchOC09e6c/UUdACQcWhmLQL6YV6hgf9BPNwAAQLM2A= References: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A204EDDBBC@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com><4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A204EDDBBF@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A2052BC6AD@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> From: To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Feb 2008 07:12:26.0668 (UTC) FILETIME=[C9A556C0:01C86E0F] X-Nokia-AV: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net Cc: capwap@frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 35: MAC Address in Certificate CN field X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Ideally the MAC address would not be used as an identifier. Iknow that=E4s = hard given how much it is used that way. BR, Michael >-----Original Message----- >From: ext Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) [mailto:pcalhoun@cisco.com] = >Sent: 12 February, 2008 21:16 >To: Sam Hartman >Cc: capwap >Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 35: MAC Address in Certificate CN field > >Sam, > >May I simply adopt your proposed text below and close this issue? > >PatC = > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sam Hartman [mailto:hartmans-ietf@mit.edu] >Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 5:19 AM >To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) >Cc: capwap >Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 35: MAC Address in Certificate CN field > >>>>>> "Pat" =3D=3D Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) writes: > > Pat> The intention is the for AC and WTPs to validate the CN > Pat> through an access control list. This could be done via a > Pat> RADIUS request, a locally stored MAC address list, etc. As > Pat> long as the certificate is valid, and authorized, it really > Pat> doesn't matter whether the device in question is actually > Pat> using the MAC address encoded in the CN field, and as you > Pat> state, this is not possible to do if a router is present. > >Ah. >This was not obvious to me. >If the intent is to validate against an ACL, then I think the = >following requirement does not rise to the level needed for = >an RFC 2119 MUST: > >> The certificate common name (CN) for both the WTP and AC = >MUST be the >> MAC address of that device. The MAC address MUST be formatted as >> ASCII HEX, e.g. 01:23:45:67:89:ab. > > >In particular, that's a requirement on operational deployments = >rather than a requirement on implementations and if all you = >are going to do is to check against an ACL then I don't see a = >need for that requirement. > >Perhaps something more like the following would be an = >appropriate requirement to meet interoperability: > > > >> Capwap implementations MUST support certificates where the common >name (CN) for both the WTP and AC is the >> MAC address of that device. The MAC address MUST be formatted as >> ASCII HEX, e.g. 01:23:45:67:89:ab. > > >You should be aware that there is a raging debate in the = >security directorate about whether storing MAC addresses in a = >CN field is appropriate for a mandatory to implement solution. = > I have not read that debate so I don't know if there is a = >consensus there one way or another. >_________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: >http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > >Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap > _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Thu Feb 14 14:06:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D029C3A6813 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:06:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id feaA1eJSp9of for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:06:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from g1-41.tigertech.net (g1-41.tigertech.net [64.62.209.41]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836553A67B4 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:06:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from fry.tigertech.net (fry.tigertech.net [64.62.209.19]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 420E419AD8B0 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:08:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.tigertech.net (mx2.tigertech.net [64.62.209.32]) by fry.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A3D4ED0EB for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:07:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3011E439F8D for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:07:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049B01C407F3 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:07:36 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mail.arubanetworks.com (mail.arubanetworks.com [216.31.249.253]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:07:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from aruba-mx2.arubanetworks.com ([10.1.1.83]) by mail.arubanetworks.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:07:33 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:07:33 -0800 Message-ID: <6F22142CC0DEBE478C659612F9CFCA50DC3D02@aruba-mx2.arubanetworks.com> In-Reply-To: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A2052BC6AA@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking on AC prior to DTLSEstablishment (was: state machine issues) Thread-Index: AchPISuQJw2i0IHgQs6BWTaRAAPwPwIuEb+ABYllTHAAVTbvwA== References: <6F22142CC0DEBE478C659612F9CFCA508AD175@aruba-mx2.arubanetworks.com> <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A2050873B2@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A2052BC6AA@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> From: "Scott Kelly" To: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" , "capwap" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Feb 2008 22:07:33.0850 (UTC) FILETIME=[0008B3A0:01C86F56] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking on AC prior to DTLSEstablishment (was: state machine issues) X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com > Scott, given that no one else seems to object to the change, and that > Charles is comfortable with the change, can we consider this closed? Let's not mistake malaise for assent. There were changes introduced in 03 which are inconsistent with other stated protocol objectives. In particular, 03 introduced discovery state as an integral element of the protocol, and modified the text in such a way as to remove the DoS protections afforded by the DTLS client cookie. This protocol should be suitable for deployment by, among others, service providers who are subject to the "Internet" threat model. The exposure that results from the proposed design should be obvious. There are certainly other deployment types that could be similarly harmed by this introduction of discovery state, but SP's are a convenient reference point for this discussion. Agreeing that discovery state SHOULD NOT be kept, and then (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) explaining how to maintain discovery state is a bit disingenuous, if not irresponsible. I don't believe there is any precedent for this in IETF standards documents. So, no, I don't think this issue is closed. I proposed straightforward changes to fix this (see http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap/msg04621.html). I don't understand what the problem is with adopting these proposed clarifications. --Scott > > PatC > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 4:55 PM > To: Scott Kelly; capwap > Subject: Re: [Capwap] state machine issues > > My apologies for the latency. Responses below. > > > This text seems to have originally assumed that the AC would listen > > *per-WTP* based on receipt of a discovery request from that WTP, but > this is inconsistent in multiple ways. Most > > importantly, discovery is optional, so the AC must *always* be > listening for incoming (DTLS) ClientHello messages. A > > simple way to represent this is to say that the AC is > listening while > in the Idle state, and receipt of an acceptable > > ClientHello (e.g. with a valid cookie) causes it to transition from > Idle to DTLS Setup. You could also say the AC is > > always in DTLS Setup state, but that complicates things in terms of > representing discovery message processing. I think > > using idle for this works best. > > Actually, the state machine does not require this, but allows > for it. If > an AC wants to only accept connections from specific IP addresses, > whether the list was generated from discovery, or through a > pre-configured list, this is possible. It is not recommended, are the > text states. > > > Before we go any further with this, we need to agree on > whether use of > client cookies is required or optional. The > > protocol is simpler if they are always required, but there are > probably deployment scenarios in which the potential > > for AC DoS attacks is minimal, so one might argue that they > shouldn't > be strictly required for those scenarios. In the > > interest of implementation simplicity, I would vote to simply make > them mandatory, but I will assume they are optional > > below with the understanding that the proposed language will be > simpler if they become mandatory. > > At first glance, I don't think I have issues with your > proposal, but do > not fully understand the possible impact of the changes. > > > Another related decision might be a little more rat-hole prone (or > not): > > what are the state transitions required to implement the > HelloVerifyRequest? The simplest is to add a C next to the > > Idle state (an Idle to Idle transition), with something > resembling the > following > > text: > > > Idle to Idle (b): This transition may occur on the AC when it > receives > > a ClientHello > > > WTP: This is an invalid state transition for the WTP. > > > AC: When the WTP sends a ClientHello, the AC optionally sends > > a HelloVerifyRequest containing a unique cookie that the WTP > > must return in a subsequent HelloRequest. This > transition also > > occurs if a ClientHello contains an invalid cookie. > > > > Note that 3 things can happen when the AC receives a > ClientHello; the > AC > > > > 1) drops the message, because it contains an invalid cookie, or > because > > the AC is rate limiting handshakes > > > > 2) it creates a cookie and sends a HelloVerifyRequest > > > > 3) it deems the incoming HelloRequest acceptable (either > because it > > contains a valid cookie or because client cookies are not > required), > > and it transitions from Idle to DTLS Setup > > > > Rather than idle to idle, we could add another AC-only state that it > transitions into to gen/send the cookie, and then > > back to Idle, but I think Idle-Idle works okay and is simpler. > > It seems to me like we really aren't changing anything because > ultimately, the state machine still has a state transition > prior to the > setup of DTLS, so the same confusion about whether the AC maintains > state prior to DTLS setup still exists. I continue to believe that the > current draft does not make this necessary since the "listener thread" > operates on a separate context that is global - not per WTP. > > So it seems to me like the current draft already defines the > API between > DTLS and CAPWAP, and therefore addresses the other requirement we once > had about not wanting CAPWAP to have to parse and understand the DTLS > state machine. I continue to believe this should be a design goal. In > your proposed model, CAPWAP needs to validate whether the cookie is > valid (or at least since the state machine description includes this, > then I presume it does). I would prefer let the DTLS engine > do this and > simply report back on what's working/not working. > > PatC > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap > _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Thu Feb 14 14:57:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DDE63A67B4 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:57:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.516 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.516 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.083, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xoBFqMbxBlFO for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:57:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.tigertech.net (mx2.tigertech.net [64.62.209.32]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E123A6868 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:57:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from fry.tigertech.net (fry.tigertech.net [64.62.209.19]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D72D1C40F0E for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:58:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.tigertech.net (mx2.tigertech.net [64.62.209.32]) by fry.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB53E4ED35E for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:58:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B80201C4084B for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:58:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A38671C40EC6 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:58:23 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sj-iport-2.cisco.com (sj-iport-2.cisco.com [171.71.176.71]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:58:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-dkim-1.cisco.com ([171.71.179.21]) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 14 Feb 2008 14:58:23 -0800 Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com (sj-core-3.cisco.com [171.68.223.137]) by sj-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m1EMwLHR026235; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:58:21 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-221.cisco.com [128.107.191.63]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id m1EMw4No029136; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 22:58:21 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.85]) by xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:58:11 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:58:08 -0800 Message-ID: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A20531662C@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A2052BC6AF@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Issue 37: Key Rollover issue Thread-Index: AchODHYfmnLKyDyjSoiT2TfBV29mcAf8yM9QAFdX+6A= References: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A204EDDBDE@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A2052BC6AF@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> From: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" To: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" , "Sam Hartman" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Feb 2008 22:58:11.0514 (UTC) FILETIME=[129F71A0:01C86F5D] Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-1; header.From=pcalhoun@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim1004 verified; ); X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net Cc: capwap@frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 37: Key Rollover issue X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Scott has recommended that we remove the following sentence from paragraph 2 of section 12.6: "At a minimum, devices SHOULD use SSH-style certificate caching to guarantee consistency." Any disagreements? PatC -----Original Message----- From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:17 PM To: Sam Hartman Cc: capwap@frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 37: Key Rollover issue Scott, do you have any text that could handle Sam's issue? PatC -----Original Message----- From: Sam Hartman [mailto:hartmans-ietf@mit.edu] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 5:27 AM To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) Cc: capwap@frascone.com Subject: Re: Issue 37: Key Rollover issue >>>>> "Pat" == Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) writes: Pat> Sam, This is a topic that has already been raised and Pat> closed. I am including part of an e-mail exchange on the list Pat> where this was discussed. I can also point you to Pat> http://www.capwap.org/cgi-bin/roundup.old/CAPWAP/issue228, Pat> which is the old tracker entry where more information can be Pat> found. Pat> I would like to close this issue, as it is redundant, but Pat> want to make sure you are ok with it first. As best I can tell, the old issue you refer me to is a question about whether to rekey the DTLS session keys within a single active capwap session. (Session may be the wrong term for your protocol, but I hope I am sufficiently clear) I agree with the WG's decision on that issue. However I think I was describing a different issue. I was discussing the rollever of public keys in certificates used in leap of faith transactions. The reason a site would want to roll over these keys is more about staff changes and AC replacement than cryptographic limitations. So, I think the issue I raise is different and at least requires security considerations text. It concerns me because without clear guidance you can get into a situation where you cannot rekey either when you have a key compromise or when you have staffing changes because some of your equipment is implementing a primitive leap of faith strategy similar to ssh. I'm not entirely sure what the anser is, but I am sure that the problem is real. _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Thu Feb 14 16:07:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BCDD3A698E for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:07:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k8QDSpZfvGpz for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:07:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.tigertech.net (mx2.tigertech.net [64.62.209.32]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF9A3A67A6 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:07:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from fry.tigertech.net (fry.tigertech.net [64.62.209.19]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 932CC1C40E8B for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:08:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from g1-41.tigertech.net (g1-41.tigertech.net [64.62.209.41]) by fry.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC374ECF15 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:08:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 098CD3228331 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:08:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from hgblob.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B21732280BD for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:08:17 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mms2.broadcom.com (mms2.broadcom.com [216.31.210.18]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:08:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.10.64.154] by mms2.broadcom.com with ESMTP (Broadcom SMTP Relay (Email Firewall v6.3.2)); Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:08:05 -0800 X-Server-Uuid: D3C04415-6FA8-4F2C-93C1-920E106A2031 Received: by mail-irva-10.broadcom.com (Postfix, from userid 47) id 8B0A32AF; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:08:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-irva-8.broadcom.com (mail-irva-8 [10.10.64.221]) by mail-irva-10.broadcom.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769032AE; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:08:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-sj1-12.sj.broadcom.com (mail-sj1-12.sj.broadcom.com [10.16.128.215]) by mail-irva-8.broadcom.com (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with ESMTP id GKX28793; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:08:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from NT-SJCA-0751.brcm.ad.broadcom.com (nt-sjca-0751 [10.16.192.221]) by mail-sj1-12.sj.broadcom.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C9320503; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:08:00 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:08:00 -0800 Message-ID: <8954613CA6BB3242A1531D916A527A4106502A6B@NT-SJCA-0751.brcm.ad.broadcom.com> Thread-Topic: Comment on draft -08 Thread-Index: AchvZtGZsZk23R3PRByXk0FFgeuUEQ== From: "Puneet Agarwal" To: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" X-WSS-ID: 6BAA086F3IW521769-01-01 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net Cc: capwap@frascone.com Subject: [Capwap] Comment on draft -08 X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0957185218==" Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0957185218== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C86F66.D3603E9E" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C86F66.D3603E9E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Pat, =20 When we are transporting 802.3 data frames in CAPWAP, we do not state anywhere in the -08 spec if the payload frame's 802.3 FCS is carried in the CAPWAP tunnel or not. It would be good to add the clarification in section 4.4.2 - otherwise this can lead to interoperability problems. =20 Recommended text: "For 802.3 payload frames, the 802.3 frame is encapsulated (excluding the IEEE 802.3 FCS checksum)" =20 =20 For 802.11 frames, we already have similar text in section 4 of the -05 binding spec - hence no change needed there. =20 Thanks. =20 -Puneet ------_=_NextPart_001_01C86F66.D3603E9E Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi=20 Pat,
 
When = we are=20 transporting 802.3 data frames in CAPWAP, we do not state anywhere in = the -08=20 spec if the payload frame's 802.3 FCS is carried in the CAPWAP tunnel or = not. It=20 would be good to add the clarification in section 4.4.2 - otherwise this = can=20 lead to interoperability problems.
 
Recommended=20 text:
"For = 802.3 payload=20 frames, the 802.3 frame is encapsulated (excluding the IEEE 802.3 FCS=20 checksum)"
 
 
For = 802.11 frames,=20 we already have similar text in section 4 of the -05 binding spec - = hence=20 no change needed there.
 
Thanks.
 
-Puneet
------_=_NextPart_001_01C86F66.D3603E9E-- --===============0957185218== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap --===============0957185218==-- From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Thu Feb 14 18:08:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AEA33A689C for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:08:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WkcpItQzAh89 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:08:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.tigertech.net (mx2.tigertech.net [64.62.209.32]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDABA3A686B for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:08:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from fry.tigertech.net (fry.tigertech.net [64.62.209.19]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D341C40E81 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:09:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.tigertech.net (mx2.tigertech.net [64.62.209.32]) by fry.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF534EC17C for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:09:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16B01C40546 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:09:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF251C4041C for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:09:12 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from mgw-mx06.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [192.100.122.233]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:09:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from esebh106.NOE.Nokia.com (esebh106.ntc.nokia.com [172.21.138.213]) by mgw-mx06.nokia.com (Switch-3.2.6/Switch-3.2.6) with ESMTP id m1F28Oei004311; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 04:08:39 +0200 Received: from daebh101.NOE.Nokia.com ([10.241.35.111]) by esebh106.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 04:08:27 +0200 Received: from daebe103.NOE.Nokia.com ([10.241.35.24]) by daebh101.NOE.Nokia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:08:25 -0600 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:08:24 -0600 Message-ID: <0AC25B27A4FD2E4B839C9FAF2C704DBA02CAA0BF@daebe103.NOE.Nokia.com> In-Reply-To: <6F22142CC0DEBE478C659612F9CFCA50DC3D02@aruba-mx2.arubanetworks.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking on AC prior toDTLSEstablishment (was: state machine issues) Thread-Index: AchPISuQJw2i0IHgQs6BWTaRAAPwPwIuEb+ABYllTHAAVTbvwAAHix7w References: <6F22142CC0DEBE478C659612F9CFCA508AD175@aruba-mx2.arubanetworks.com><4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A2050873B2@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com><4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A2052BC6AA@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> <6F22142CC0DEBE478C659612F9CFCA50DC3D02@aruba-mx2.arubanetworks.com> From: To: , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Feb 2008 02:08:25.0183 (UTC) FILETIME=[A5B31EF0:01C86F77] X-Nokia-AV: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net Cc: hartmans-ietf@mit.edu, clancy@ltsnet.net, rbonica@juniper.net Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking on AC prior toDTLSEstablishment (was: state machine issues) X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Hi Scott, I'm not clear that there is a problem with issue 30 past the agreement we had the last IETF f2f meeting, and I'm reluctant to over-ride the WG consent. I'm not ignoring your comment regarding DOS protection, but since Charles is not supporting this argument, and it wasn't raised in the f2f meeting, my direction to the editors is to close issue 30 with the changes agreed to at the last IETF meeting. Granted, this may be rough consensus, but my priority is to get this draft to WGLC and then IESG. Scott, if you care to stand behind the agrument you mention here, then you need to open it as a new issue against the WGLC after we publish. I don't think its fair to hold up the draft under these circumstances. Sam Hartman has been giving us detailed security support and I will be interested in his opinions of this issue as well as the few items he brought up last month after he returns from family leave. Best Regards, Dorothy > -----Original Message----- > From: ext Scott Kelly [mailto:skelly@arubanetworks.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:08 PM > To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou); capwap > Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking > on AC prior toDTLSEstablishment (was: state machine issues) > > > Scott, given that no one else seems to object to the > change, and that > > Charles is comfortable with the change, can we consider this closed? > > Let's not mistake malaise for assent. > > There were changes introduced in 03 which are inconsistent > with other stated protocol objectives. In particular, 03 > introduced discovery state as an integral element of the > protocol, and modified the text in such a way as to remove > the DoS protections afforded by the DTLS client cookie. > > This protocol should be suitable for deployment by, among > others, service providers who are subject to the "Internet" > threat model. The exposure that results from the proposed > design should be obvious. There are certainly other > deployment types that could be similarly harmed by this > introduction of discovery state, but SP's are a convenient > reference point for this discussion. > > Agreeing that discovery state SHOULD NOT be kept, and then > (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) explaining how to maintain > discovery state is a bit disingenuous, if not irresponsible. > I don't believe there is any precedent for this in IETF > standards documents. > > So, no, I don't think this issue is closed. I proposed > straightforward changes to fix this (see > http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap/msg04621.html). I > don't understand what the problem is with adopting these > proposed clarifications. > > > --Scott > > > > > > > > PatC > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) > > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 4:55 PM > > To: Scott Kelly; capwap > > Subject: Re: [Capwap] state machine issues > > > > My apologies for the latency. Responses below. > > > > > This text seems to have originally assumed that the AC > would listen > > > *per-WTP* based on receipt of a discovery request from > that WTP, but > > this is inconsistent in multiple ways. Most > > > importantly, discovery is optional, so the AC must *always* be > > listening for incoming (DTLS) ClientHello messages. A > > > simple way to represent this is to say that the AC is > > listening while > > in the Idle state, and receipt of an acceptable > > > ClientHello (e.g. with a valid cookie) causes it to > transition from > > Idle to DTLS Setup. You could also say the AC is > > > always in DTLS Setup state, but that complicates things > in terms of > > representing discovery message processing. I think > > > using idle for this works best. > > > > Actually, the state machine does not require this, but > allows for it. > > If an AC wants to only accept connections from specific IP > addresses, > > whether the list was generated from discovery, or through a > > pre-configured list, this is possible. It is not > recommended, are the > > text states. > > > > > Before we go any further with this, we need to agree on > > whether use of > > client cookies is required or optional. The > > > protocol is simpler if they are always required, but there are > > probably deployment scenarios in which the potential > > > for AC DoS attacks is minimal, so one might argue that they > > shouldn't > > be strictly required for those scenarios. In the > > > interest of implementation simplicity, I would vote to simply make > > them mandatory, but I will assume they are optional > > > below with the understanding that the proposed language will be > > simpler if they become mandatory. > > > > At first glance, I don't think I have issues with your > proposal, but > > do not fully understand the possible impact of the changes. > > > > > Another related decision might be a little more rat-hole prone (or > > not): > > > what are the state transitions required to implement the > > HelloVerifyRequest? The simplest is to add a C next to the > > > Idle state (an Idle to Idle transition), with something > > resembling the > > following > > > text: > > > > > Idle to Idle (b): This transition may occur on the AC when it > > receives > > > a ClientHello > > > > > WTP: This is an invalid state transition for the WTP. > > > > > AC: When the WTP sends a ClientHello, the AC > optionally sends > > > a HelloVerifyRequest containing a unique cookie > that the WTP > > > must return in a subsequent HelloRequest. This > > transition also > > > occurs if a ClientHello contains an invalid cookie. > > > > > > Note that 3 things can happen when the AC receives a > > ClientHello; the > > AC > > > > > > 1) drops the message, because it contains an invalid cookie, or > > because > > > the AC is rate limiting handshakes > > > > > > 2) it creates a cookie and sends a HelloVerifyRequest > > > > > > 3) it deems the incoming HelloRequest acceptable (either > > because it > > > contains a valid cookie or because client cookies are not > > required), > > > and it transitions from Idle to DTLS Setup > > > > > > Rather than idle to idle, we could add another AC-only > state that it > > transitions into to gen/send the cookie, and then > > > back to Idle, but I think Idle-Idle works okay and is simpler. > > > > It seems to me like we really aren't changing anything because > > ultimately, the state machine still has a state transition prior to > > the setup of DTLS, so the same confusion about whether the AC > > maintains state prior to DTLS setup still exists. I continue to > > believe that the current draft does not make this necessary > since the > > "listener thread" > > operates on a separate context that is global - not per WTP. > > > > So it seems to me like the current draft already defines the API > > between DTLS and CAPWAP, and therefore addresses the other > requirement > > we once had about not wanting CAPWAP to have to parse and > understand > > the DTLS state machine. I continue to believe this should > be a design > > goal. In your proposed model, CAPWAP needs to validate whether the > > cookie is valid (or at least since the state machine description > > includes this, then I presume it does). I would prefer let the DTLS > > engine do this and simply report back on what's working/not working. > > > > PatC > > _________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > > > Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap > > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap > _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Fri Feb 15 07:09:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFC573A6AB9 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:09:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.528 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.528 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.071, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CmfSuWwENd9j for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:09:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from g1-41.tigertech.net (g1-41.tigertech.net [64.62.209.41]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93BDB3A6B0D for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:09:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from fry.tigertech.net (fry.tigertech.net [64.62.209.19]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80705322B40C for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:10:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.tigertech.net (mx2.tigertech.net [64.62.209.32]) by fry.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E52D4A402F for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:10:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 191D31C40511 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:10:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D371C40509 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:10:05 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sj-iport-3.cisco.com (sj-iport-3.cisco.com [171.71.176.72]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:10:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-dkim-6.cisco.com ([171.68.10.81]) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 15 Feb 2008 07:09:59 -0800 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com (sj-core-5.cisco.com [171.71.177.238]) by sj-dkim-6.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m1FF9uMT009561; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:09:56 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-231.cisco.com [128.107.191.100]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id m1FF9kuN028695; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:09:56 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.85]) by xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:09:48 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:09:47 -0800 Message-ID: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A2053167EE@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A2052BC6AC@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Issue 34: keyPurposeID needs clarification Thread-Index: AchOCmC91L2pHFeXTKq0YZymvCRdWAf9Oo7gAHlbw/A= References: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A204EDDB9D@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com><4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A204EDDBC0@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A2052BC6AC@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> From: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" To: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" , "Sam Hartman" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Feb 2008 15:09:48.0055 (UTC) FILETIME=[CE11AA70:01C86FE4] Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-6; header.From=pcalhoun@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim6002 verified; ); X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net Cc: capwap Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 34: keyPurposeID needs clarification X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com All, I have adopted the last sentence in the following paragraph: For an AC, the id-kp-capwapAC EKU MUST be present in the certificate. For a WTP, the id-kp-capwapWTP EKU MUST be present in the certificate. The id-kp-anyExtendedKeyUsage, if present, SHOULD be ignored. PatC -----Original Message----- From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:15 PM To: Sam Hartman Cc: capwap Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 34: keyPurposeID needs clarification Sam, Would you accept some text that simply states that the Any KeyPurposeID SHOULD be ignored? PatC -----Original Message----- From: Sam Hartman [mailto:hartmans-ietf@mit.edu] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 5:12 AM To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) Cc: capwap Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 34: keyPurposeID needs clarification >>>>> "Pat" == Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) writes: Pat> The particulars of authorization filter construction are Pat> implementation details which are, for the most part, not Pat> within the scope of this specification. However, at minimum, Pat> all devices MUST verify that the appropriate EKU bit is set Pat> according to the role of the peer device (AC vs. WTP), and Pat> that the issuer of the certificate is appropriate for the Pat> domain in question. Pat> However, if Sam felt this was not sufficient, I have added a Pat> sentence to an existing paragraph (the last sentence below): Returning from vacation. I thought the existing text was very close to clear. The problem is that there is a special key purpose ID that means that a particular certificate can be used for any purpose for which the any purpose ID is permitted. There are some applications that are so sensitive that the any purpose ID is not acceptable. So, when you define a new key purpose ID, you need to say whether the any purpose ID can be used instead of this new key purpose ID. Capwap defines two key purpose IDs but does not discuss the any purpose ID. _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Fri Feb 15 07:13:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB693A6AD0 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:13:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.537 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.537 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.062, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 70KVnjRmVbs4 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:13:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from g1-41.tigertech.net (g1-41.tigertech.net [64.62.209.41]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 246F83A6AB9 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:13:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from fry.tigertech.net (fry.tigertech.net [64.62.209.19]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 225BD322A948 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:14:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.tigertech.net (mx2.tigertech.net [64.62.209.32]) by fry.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140404A402F for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:14:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8EA21C40300 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:14:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781DB1C40511 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:14:05 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from sj-iport-1.cisco.com (sj-iport-1.cisco.com [171.71.176.70]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:14:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from sj-dkim-7.cisco.com ([171.68.10.88]) by sj-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 15 Feb 2008 07:14:03 -0800 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com (sj-core-5.cisco.com [171.71.177.238]) by sj-dkim-7.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m1FFE33Z009783; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:14:03 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-231.cisco.com [128.107.191.100]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id m1FFE1uP002514; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:14:01 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.85]) by xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:14:01 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:14:00 -0800 Message-ID: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A2053167F1@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A2052BC6AD@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Issue 35: MAC Address in Certificate CN field Thread-Index: AchOC09e6c/UUdACQcWhmLQL6YV6hgf9BPNwAHl+ncA= References: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A204EDDBBC@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com><4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A204EDDBBF@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A2052BC6AD@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> From: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" To: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" , "Sam Hartman" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Feb 2008 15:14:01.0476 (UTC) FILETIME=[651EA440:01C86FE5] Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-7; header.From=pcalhoun@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim7002 verified; ); X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net Cc: capwap Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 35: MAC Address in Certificate CN field X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com All, The new text reads: CAPWAP implementations MUST support certificates where the common name (CN) for both the WTP and AC is the MAC address of that device. The MAC address MUST be formatted as ASCII HEX, e.g. 01:23:45:67:89:ab. Note that the CN field MAY contain either of the EUI-48 [22] or EUI-64 [23] MAC Address formats. PatC -----Original Message----- From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:16 PM To: Sam Hartman Cc: capwap Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 35: MAC Address in Certificate CN field Sam, May I simply adopt your proposed text below and close this issue? PatC -----Original Message----- From: Sam Hartman [mailto:hartmans-ietf@mit.edu] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 5:19 AM To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) Cc: capwap Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 35: MAC Address in Certificate CN field >>>>> "Pat" == Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) writes: Pat> The intention is the for AC and WTPs to validate the CN Pat> through an access control list. This could be done via a Pat> RADIUS request, a locally stored MAC address list, etc. As Pat> long as the certificate is valid, and authorized, it really Pat> doesn't matter whether the device in question is actually Pat> using the MAC address encoded in the CN field, and as you Pat> state, this is not possible to do if a router is present. Ah. This was not obvious to me. If the intent is to validate against an ACL, then I think the following requirement does not rise to the level needed for an RFC 2119 MUST: > The certificate common name (CN) for both the WTP and AC MUST be the > MAC address of that device. The MAC address MUST be formatted as > ASCII HEX, e.g. 01:23:45:67:89:ab. In particular, that's a requirement on operational deployments rather than a requirement on implementations and if all you are going to do is to check against an ACL then I don't see a need for that requirement. Perhaps something more like the following would be an appropriate requirement to meet interoperability: > Capwap implementations MUST support certificates where the common name (CN) for both the WTP and AC is the > MAC address of that device. The MAC address MUST be formatted as > ASCII HEX, e.g. 01:23:45:67:89:ab. You should be aware that there is a raging debate in the security directorate about whether storing MAC addresses in a CN field is appropriate for a mandatory to implement solution. I have not read that debate so I don't know if there is a consensus there one way or another. _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Fri Feb 15 08:16:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 654913A6A58 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:16:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FUZZY_CPILL=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xgafnLyr-Cy0 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:16:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from g1-41.tigertech.net (g1-41.tigertech.net [64.62.209.41]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D3F028D2D7 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:16:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from fry.tigertech.net (fry.tigertech.net [64.62.209.19]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270CB322B416 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:18:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.tigertech.net (mx2.tigertech.net [64.62.209.32]) by fry.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BEB44A402F for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:17:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AC491C407B3 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:17:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9569C1C4051E for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:17:33 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:17:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from [209.86.224.33] (helo=elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1JQ3F3-0001XJ-84; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:16:49 -0500 Received: from 24.6.132.243 by webmail.pas.earthlink.net with HTTP; Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:16:44 -0500 Message-ID: <20341331.1203092204230.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:16:44 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: "Scott G. Kelly" To: Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com, pcalhoun@cisco.com, capwap@frascone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 5b98cdd91c374dcd776432462e451d7b7f19f0d9c038d9aa7ccdc6336ca774216f6121d81b0d8ded350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.33 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net Cc: rbonica@juniper.net, hartmans-ietf@mit.edu, clancy@ltsnet.net Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking on AC prior toDTLSEstablishment (was: state machine issues) X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Scott G. Kelly" List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Hi Dorothy, I don't have any issues with publishing 09 first. Then, we'll all be looking at the same pictures and text. Scott -----Original Message----- >From: Dorothy.Gellert@nokia.com >Sent: Feb 14, 2008 6:08 PM >To: skelly@arubanetworks.com, pcalhoun@cisco.com, capwap@frascone.com >Cc: hartmans-ietf@mit.edu, clancy@ltsnet.net, rbonica@juniper.net >Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking on AC prior toDTLSEstablishment (was: state machine issues) > >Hi Scott, > >I'm not clear that there is a problem with issue 30 past the agreement >we had the last IETF f2f meeting, and I'm reluctant to over-ride the WG >consent. > >I'm not ignoring your comment regarding DOS protection, but since >Charles is not supporting this argument, and it wasn't raised in the f2f >meeting, my direction to the editors is to close issue 30 with the >changes agreed to at the last IETF meeting. Granted, this may be rough >consensus, but my priority is to get this draft to WGLC and then IESG. > >Scott, if you care to stand behind the agrument you mention here, then >you need to open it as a new issue against the WGLC after we publish. I >don't think its fair to hold up the draft under these circumstances. > >Sam Hartman has been giving us detailed security support and I will be >interested in his opinions of this issue as well as the few items he >brought up last month after he returns from family leave. > >Best Regards, >Dorothy > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ext Scott Kelly [mailto:skelly@arubanetworks.com] >> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:08 PM >> To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou); capwap >> Subject: Re: [Capwap] Issue 30: Inconsistent state tracking >> on AC prior toDTLSEstablishment (was: state machine issues) >> >> > Scott, given that no one else seems to object to the >> change, and that >> > Charles is comfortable with the change, can we consider this closed? >> >> Let's not mistake malaise for assent. >> >> There were changes introduced in 03 which are inconsistent >> with other stated protocol objectives. In particular, 03 >> introduced discovery state as an integral element of the >> protocol, and modified the text in such a way as to remove >> the DoS protections afforded by the DTLS client cookie. >> >> This protocol should be suitable for deployment by, among >> others, service providers who are subject to the "Internet" >> threat model. The exposure that results from the proposed >> design should be obvious. There are certainly other >> deployment types that could be similarly harmed by this >> introduction of discovery state, but SP's are a convenient >> reference point for this discussion. >> >> Agreeing that discovery state SHOULD NOT be kept, and then >> (wink, wink, nudge, nudge) explaining how to maintain >> discovery state is a bit disingenuous, if not irresponsible. >> I don't believe there is any precedent for this in IETF >> standards documents. >> >> So, no, I don't think this issue is closed. I proposed >> straightforward changes to fix this (see >> http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap/msg04621.html). I >> don't understand what the problem is with adopting these >> proposed clarifications. >> >> >> --Scott >> >> >> >> >> > >> > PatC >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) >> > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 4:55 PM >> > To: Scott Kelly; capwap >> > Subject: Re: [Capwap] state machine issues >> > >> > My apologies for the latency. Responses below. >> > >> > > This text seems to have originally assumed that the AC >> would listen >> > > *per-WTP* based on receipt of a discovery request from >> that WTP, but >> > this is inconsistent in multiple ways. Most >> > > importantly, discovery is optional, so the AC must *always* be >> > listening for incoming (DTLS) ClientHello messages. A >> > > simple way to represent this is to say that the AC is >> > listening while >> > in the Idle state, and receipt of an acceptable >> > > ClientHello (e.g. with a valid cookie) causes it to >> transition from >> > Idle to DTLS Setup. You could also say the AC is >> > > always in DTLS Setup state, but that complicates things >> in terms of >> > representing discovery message processing. I think >> > > using idle for this works best. >> > >> > Actually, the state machine does not require this, but >> allows for it. >> > If an AC wants to only accept connections from specific IP >> addresses, >> > whether the list was generated from discovery, or through a >> > pre-configured list, this is possible. It is not >> recommended, are the >> > text states. >> > >> > > Before we go any further with this, we need to agree on >> > whether use of >> > client cookies is required or optional. The >> > > protocol is simpler if they are always required, but there are >> > probably deployment scenarios in which the potential >> > > for AC DoS attacks is minimal, so one might argue that they >> > shouldn't >> > be strictly required for those scenarios. In the >> > > interest of implementation simplicity, I would vote to simply make >> > them mandatory, but I will assume they are optional >> > > below with the understanding that the proposed language will be >> > simpler if they become mandatory. >> > >> > At first glance, I don't think I have issues with your >> proposal, but >> > do not fully understand the possible impact of the changes. >> > >> > > Another related decision might be a little more rat-hole prone (or >> > not): >> > > what are the state transitions required to implement the >> > HelloVerifyRequest? The simplest is to add a C next to the >> > > Idle state (an Idle to Idle transition), with something >> > resembling the >> > following >> > > text: >> > >> > > Idle to Idle (b): This transition may occur on the AC when it >> > receives >> > > a ClientHello >> > >> > > WTP: This is an invalid state transition for the WTP. >> > >> > > AC: When the WTP sends a ClientHello, the AC >> optionally sends >> > > a HelloVerifyRequest containing a unique cookie >> that the WTP >> > > must return in a subsequent HelloRequest. This >> > transition also >> > > occurs if a ClientHello contains an invalid cookie. >> > > >> > > Note that 3 things can happen when the AC receives a >> > ClientHello; the >> > AC >> > > >> > > 1) drops the message, because it contains an invalid cookie, or >> > because >> > > the AC is rate limiting handshakes >> > > >> > > 2) it creates a cookie and sends a HelloVerifyRequest >> > > >> > > 3) it deems the incoming HelloRequest acceptable (either >> > because it >> > > contains a valid cookie or because client cookies are not >> > required), >> > > and it transitions from Idle to DTLS Setup >> > > >> > > Rather than idle to idle, we could add another AC-only >> state that it >> > transitions into to gen/send the cookie, and then >> > > back to Idle, but I think Idle-Idle works okay and is simpler. >> > >> > It seems to me like we really aren't changing anything because >> > ultimately, the state machine still has a state transition prior to >> > the setup of DTLS, so the same confusion about whether the AC >> > maintains state prior to DTLS setup still exists. I continue to >> > believe that the current draft does not make this necessary >> since the >> > "listener thread" >> > operates on a separate context that is global - not per WTP. >> > >> > So it seems to me like the current draft already defines the API >> > between DTLS and CAPWAP, and therefore addresses the other >> requirement >> > we once had about not wanting CAPWAP to have to parse and >> understand >> > the DTLS state machine. I continue to believe this should >> be a design >> > goal. In your proposed model, CAPWAP needs to validate whether the >> > cookie is valid (or at least since the state machine description >> > includes this, then I presume it does). I would prefer let the DTLS >> > engine do this and simply report back on what's working/not working. >> > >> > PatC >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: >> > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap >> > >> > Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap >> > >> _________________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: >> http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap >> >> Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap >> >_________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: >http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > >Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Fri Feb 15 12:51:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9465D3A694C for ; 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Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:51:45 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:51:43 -0800 Message-ID: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A205316A1D@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <8954613CA6BB3242A1531D916A527A4106502A6B@NT-SJCA-0751.brcm.ad.broadcom.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Comment on draft -08 Thread-Index: AchvZtGZsZk23R3PRByXk0FFgeuUEQArbmbA References: <8954613CA6BB3242A1531D916A527A4106502A6B@NT-SJCA-0751.brcm.ad.broadcom.com> From: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" To: "Puneet Agarwal" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Feb 2008 20:51:45.0067 (UTC) FILETIME=[93293FB0:01C87014] Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-3; header.From=pcalhoun@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim3002 verified; ); X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at tigertech.net Cc: capwap@frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] Comment on draft -08 X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1612118895==" Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1612118895== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C87014.92D194CB" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C87014.92D194CB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree, and this is issue 38. =20 PatC ________________________________ From: Puneet Agarwal [mailto:pagarwal@broadcom.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 4:08 PM To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) Cc: capwap@frascone.com Subject: [Capwap] Comment on draft -08 Hi Pat, =20 When we are transporting 802.3 data frames in CAPWAP, we do not state anywhere in the -08 spec if the payload frame's 802.3 FCS is carried in the CAPWAP tunnel or not. It would be good to add the clarification in section 4.4.2 - otherwise this can lead to interoperability problems. =20 Recommended text: "For 802.3 payload frames, the 802.3 frame is encapsulated (excluding the IEEE 802.3 FCS checksum)" =20 =20 For 802.11 frames, we already have similar text in section 4 of the -05 binding spec - hence no change needed there. =20 Thanks. =20 -Puneet ------_=_NextPart_001_01C87014.92D194CB Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I agree, and this is issue = 38.
 
PatC

From: Puneet Agarwal=20 [mailto:pagarwal@broadcom.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, = 2008 4:08=20 PM
To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)
Cc:=20 capwap@frascone.com
Subject: [Capwap] Comment on draft=20 -08

Hi=20 Pat,
 
When = we are=20 transporting 802.3 data frames in CAPWAP, we do not state anywhere in = the -08=20 spec if the payload frame's 802.3 FCS is carried in the CAPWAP tunnel or = not. It=20 would be good to add the clarification in section 4.4.2 - otherwise this = can=20 lead to interoperability problems.
 
Recommended=20 text:
"For = 802.3 payload=20 frames, the 802.3 frame is encapsulated (excluding the IEEE 802.3 FCS=20 checksum)"
 
 
For = 802.11 frames,=20 we already have similar text in section 4 of the -05 binding spec - = hence=20 no change needed there.
 
Thanks.
 
-Puneet
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This draft is a work item of the Control And Provisioning of Wireless Access Points Working Group of the IETF. Title : CAPWAP Protocol Specification Author(s) : P. Calhoun Filename : draft-ietf-capwap-protocol-specification-09.txt Pages : 144 Date : 2008-2-22 This specification defines the Control And Provisioning of Wireless Access Points (CAPWAP) Protocol. The CAPWAP protocol meets the IETF CAPWAP working group protocol requirements. The CAPWAP protocol is designed to be flexible, allowing it to be used for a variety of wireless technologies. This document describes the base CAPWAP protocol. The CAPWAP protocol binding which defines extensions for use with the IEEE 802.11 wireless LAN protocol is available in [16]. Extensions are expected to be defined to enable use of the CAPWAP protocol with additional wireless technologies. 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This draft is a work item of the Control And Provisioning of Wireless Access Points Working Group of the IETF. Title : CAPWAP Protocol Binding for IEEE 802.11 Author(s) : P. Calhoun Filename : draft-ietf-capwap-protocol-binding-ieee80211-06.txt Pages : 63 Date : 2008-2-22 Wireless LAN product architectures have evolved from single autonomous access points to systems consisting of a centralized Access Controller (AC) and Wireless Termination Points (WTPs). The general goal of centralized control architectures is to move access control, including user authentication and authorization, mobility management and radio management from the single access point to a centralized controller. This specification defines the Control And Provisioning of Wireless Access Points (CAPWAP) Protocol Binding Specification for use with the IEEE 802.11 Wireless Local Area Network protocol. The CAPWAP Protocol Specification is defined separately [3]. 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