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	Pages           : 69
	Date            : 2008-11-01

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	Title		: CAPWAP Protocol Binding for IEEE 802.11
	Author(s)	: M. Montemurro, D. Stanley, P. Calhoun
	Filename	: draft-ietf-capwap-protocol-binding-ieee80211-12.txt
	Pages		: 83
	Date		: 2008-11-1
	
Wireless LAN product architectures have evolved from single
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   Access Controller (AC) and Wireless Termination Points (WTPs).  The
   general goal of centralized control architectures is to move access
   control, including user authentication and authorization, mobility
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	Title		: CAPWAP Protocol Specification
	Author(s)	: M. Montemurro, D. Stanley, P. Calhoun
	Filename	: draft-ietf-capwap-protocol-specification-15.txt
	Pages		: 165
	Date		: 2008-11-1
	
This specification defines the Control And Provisioning of Wireless
   Access Points (CAPWAP) Protocol, meeting the objectives defined by
   the CAPWAP working group in RFC 4564.  The CAPWAP protocol is
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   wireless technologies.  This document describes the base CAPWAP
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The IESG has approved the following document:

- 'CAPWAP Protocol Binding for IEEE 802.11 '
   <draft-ietf-capwap-protocol-binding-ieee80211-12.txt> as a Proposed Standard

This document is the product of the Control And Provisioning of Wireless 
Access Points Working Group. 

The IESG contact persons are Dan Romascanu and Ron Bonica.

A URL of this Internet-Draft is:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-capwap-protocol-binding-ieee80211-12.txt

Technical Summary

   The Control And Provisioning of Wireless Access Points (CAPWAP) 
   Protocol defines an extensible protocol to allow an Access Controller 
   to manage wireless agnostic Wireless Termination Points.  The CAPWAP 
   protocol itself does not include any specific wireless technologies, 
   but instead relies on binding specification to extend the technology 
   to a particular wireless technology.

   This specification defines the Control And Provisioning of Wireless
   Access Points (CAPWAP) Protocol Binding Specification for use with
   the IEEE 802.11 Wireless Local Area Network protocol.  

Working Group Summary

   This document has gone throught several review and internal WG
   discussion. This document has solid consensus and agreement by the WG.

Document Quality

   A number of pre-standard implementations are known. The document was 
   extensively reviewed in the Working Group and also by IEEE 802.11. 

Personnel

   Dorothy Gellert is the PROTO shepherd. Dan Romascanu is the 
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Hi CAPWAP Folks,

The (hopefully) final version of the CAPWAP base spec is available here:

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-capwap-protocol-specification-15.txt

There have been a few changes in this version to resolve discusses  
from the IESG.  All of these changes were circulated on the CAPWAP WG  
mailing list last Wednesday or earlier, but I want to make sure that   
the WG has had a full week to comment on them before the draft is  
finalized.  We are waiting for one more IESG discuss to be cleared,  
but we believe that we have addressed all of the open issues with the  
document, and that it is ready for publication as a Proposed Standard  
RFC.

If you have any BLOCKING CONCERNS with the contents of the -15  
version, please send them to the WG no later than this WEDNESDAY,  
NOVEMBER 5TH.  Otherwise, the document will probably be approved as-is.

Thanks,
Margaret


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> This draft is a work item of the Control And Provisioning of  
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> 	Title		: CAPWAP Protocol Specification
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The IESG has approved the following document:

- 'CAPWAP Protocol Specification '
   <draft-ietf-capwap-protocol-specification-15.txt> as a Proposed Standard

This document is the product of the Control And Provisioning of Wireless 
Access Points Working Group. 

The IESG contact persons are Dan Romascanu and Ron Bonica.

A URL of this Internet-Draft is:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-capwap-protocol-specification-15.txt

Technical Summary

  This specification defines the Control And Provisioning of Wireless
  Access Points (CAPWAP) Protocol.  This is a protocol to allow an
  Access Controller (AC) to securely manage the firmware and
  configuration of a set of Wireless Termination Points (WTPs).

  The CAPWAP protocol meets the IETF CAPWAP working group protocol
  requirements.  The CAPWAP protocol is designed to be flexible,
  allowing it to be used for a variety of wireless technologies.
  This document describes the base CAPWAP protocol.  The CAPWAP
  protocol binding which defines extensions for use with the IEEE
  802.11 wireless LAN protocol is available in a separate document. 
  Extensions are expected to be defined to enable use of the CAPWAP 
  protocol with additional wireless technologies.

Working Group Summary

   This document represents a very strong consensus of the WG.  Earlier
   there was a lot of contention about different aspects of this
   protocol, including (but not limited to) the security model, the basic
   operational model, and what parts of the functionality should be
   mandatory or optional.  However,  consensus was reached
   on all of those points and that consensus is properly reflected in the
   current document.

Document Quality

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  updated to address issues raised in those reviewes.  Technical 
  advisors were Charles Clancy, Scott Kelly, Bob O'Hara and David 
  Borman.  Joe Salowey provided an early secdir review, and  
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Congratulations to the editors, chairs and the whole working group for
meeting this major milestone. 

Special thanks also to Bert Wijnen, who was the Area Director by the
time the WG was initiated. 

Dan

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The IESG has approved the following document:

- 'CAPWAP Protocol Specification '
   <draft-ietf-capwap-protocol-specification-15.txt> as a Proposed
Standard

This document is the product of the Control And Provisioning of Wireless
Access Points Working Group. 

The IESG contact persons are Dan Romascanu and Ron Bonica.

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http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-capwap-protocol-specifica
tion-15.txt

Technical Summary

  This specification defines the Control And Provisioning of Wireless
  Access Points (CAPWAP) Protocol.  This is a protocol to allow an
  Access Controller (AC) to securely manage the firmware and
  configuration of a set of Wireless Termination Points (WTPs).

  The CAPWAP protocol meets the IETF CAPWAP working group protocol
  requirements.  The CAPWAP protocol is designed to be flexible,
  allowing it to be used for a variety of wireless technologies.
  This document describes the base CAPWAP protocol.  The CAPWAP
  protocol binding which defines extensions for use with the IEEE
  802.11 wireless LAN protocol is available in a separate document. 
  Extensions are expected to be defined to enable use of the CAPWAP
  protocol with additional wireless technologies.

Working Group Summary

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   there was a lot of contention about different aspects of this
   protocol, including (but not limited to) the security model, the
basic
   operational model, and what parts of the functionality should be
   mandatory or optional.  However,  consensus was reached
   on all of those points and that consensus is properly reflected in
the
   current document.

Document Quality

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  updated to address issues raised in those reviewes.  Technical
  advisors were Charles Clancy, Scott Kelly, Bob O'Hara and David
  Borman.  Joe Salowey provided an early secdir review, and
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The CAPWAP protocol specification has been approved by the IESG for  
publication as a Proposed Standard (see below).  So, at this point,  
the CAPWAP Protocol Specification, the 802.11 Binding, the CAPWAP DHCP  
option and the CAPWAP Security Analysis have all been approved.

Congratulations to everyone involved!

This leaves the CAPWAP base MIB and the CAPWAP 802.11 binding MIB,  
both of which are still being developed within WG.  Hopefully we can  
make some progress on the MIBs in/around Minneapolis.

Margaret

Begin forwarded message:

> From: The IESG <iesg-secretary@ietf.org>
> Date: November 11, 2008 12:20:37 PM EST
> To: capwap-chairs@tools.ietf.org, draft-ietf-capwap-protocol-specification@tools.ietf.org
> Subject: ID Tracker State Update Notice: draft-ietf-capwap-protocol- 
> specification
> Reply-To: ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf.org
>
> IESG has approved and state has been changed to 'Approved- 
> Announcement sent' by Cindy Morgan.
> ID Tracker URL: https://datatracker.ietf.org/?command=view_id&dTag=14467&rfc_flag=0
>

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Do we have RFC numbers yet ? 


Thanks,
Abhijit
 
 

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From: Margaret Wasserman [mailto:mrw@lilacglade.org] 
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Subject: [Capwap] Fwd: ID Tracker State Update
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The CAPWAP protocol specification has been approved by the IESG for
publication as a Proposed Standard (see below).  So, at this point, the
CAPWAP Protocol Specification, the 802.11 Binding, the CAPWAP DHCP
option and the CAPWAP Security Analysis have all been approved.

Congratulations to everyone involved!

This leaves the CAPWAP base MIB and the CAPWAP 802.11 binding MIB, both
of which are still being developed within WG.  Hopefully we can make
some progress on the MIBs in/around Minneapolis.

Margaret

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> From: The IESG <iesg-secretary@ietf.org>
> Date: November 11, 2008 12:20:37 PM EST
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> Subject: ID Tracker State Update Notice: draft-ietf-capwap-protocol- 
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> IESG has approved and state has been changed to 'Approved- 
> Announcement sent' by Cindy Morgan.
> ID Tracker URL: 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/?command=view_id&dTag=14467&rfc_flag=0
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I missed the CAPWAP meeting this past week, but I heard there was 
discussion about other possible applications of CAPWAP and areas of 
future work.

Something the academics have been discussing is how to address 
fundamental security issues with femtocells.  The basic problem is that 
security associations for session keys are terminated at the femtocell, 
which is physically accessible.  The implication is that if you have a 
femtocell in your house and your neighbor roams onto it, you can sniff 
your neighbor's traffic.

If we could develop a "thin BS" such that the radio is the only thing 
you put in your house, and all the higher-level and security-related 
functionality is handled by a "cellular AC" in the operator's network, 
then we could address these fundamental issues.

-- 
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Hello,

last week was my first CAPWAP meeting. It was somewhat sad to hear the
desperate calls for field implementations, and even more sad to see that
noone in the room responded.

So, as a little heads-up, I know of a WiFi vendor who actually has a
Wireless LAN Controller which uses CAPWAP for device communication. The
company is called LANCOM, and probably not large enough to assume that
people on the list know it.
Their stuff is unsurprisingly called WLC (Wireless LAN Controller), and
the data sheet at [1] and manual at [2] clearly state that they are
doing IETF-style CAPWAP.

Just so you know.

Oh, and as even more of heads-up, as operator of a WiFi Roaming
Consortium with hundreds of hot spots (www.eduroam.org), and an unknown
number of vendors for these spots, I would very much appreciate
interoperability!

Greetings,

Stefan Winter

[1]
http://www.lancom-systems.de/fileadmin/produkte/lc_wlc_4025/WLC-4025_EN.pdf
(page 3)
[2]
http://www.lancom-systems.de/download/LC-WLC-4025/LC-WLC-MANUAL-EN.pdf
(Cahpter 1.1)

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Hi Charles,

I know many folks in the femtocell space, and know that they have an
alternate approach to CAPWAP. While the WG could focus on this work
item, I'm not sure it would ever see the light of day as it would
compete against other standards. 

PatC

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I missed the CAPWAP meeting this past week, but I heard there was 
discussion about other possible applications of CAPWAP and areas of 
future work.

Something the academics have been discussing is how to address 
fundamental security issues with femtocells.  The basic problem is that 
security associations for session keys are terminated at the femtocell, 
which is physically accessible.  The implication is that if you have a 
femtocell in your house and your neighbor roams onto it, you can sniff 
your neighbor's traffic.

If we could develop a "thin BS" such that the radio is the only thing 
you put in your house, and all the higher-level and security-related 
functionality is handled by a "cellular AC" in the operator's network, 
then we could address these fundamental issues.

-- 
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Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) [mailto:pcalhoun@cisco.com] writes:

> Hi Charles,
> 
> I know many folks in the femtocell space, and know that they have an
> alternate approach to CAPWAP. 

Care to share some of that "knowledge"?

> While the WG could focus on this work
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> compete against other standards.

What are these standards?  

...

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There are three organizations working on femto; 3GPP, WiMAX Forum and
Femto Forum. Of the three, only 3GPP makes its documents available to
non-members. There's a whole list of 3GPP docs that pertain to Femto,
but you can start at SP-070952 (WID on Requirements for Home NodeB /
eNode).

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Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) [mailto:pcalhoun@cisco.com] writes:

> Hi Charles,
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> I know many folks in the femtocell space, and know that they have an
> alternate approach to CAPWAP. 

Care to share some of that "knowledge"?

> While the WG could focus on this work
> item, I'm not sure it would ever see the light of day as it would
> compete against other standards.

What are these standards?  

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>One of them was if the WG feels whether the MIB =
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latest
drafts<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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revision of
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do speak up by Monday, Dec 1.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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font-family:Arial'>As a corollary &#8211; we are also seeking =
CAPWAP-experts to
review the drafts from among the list or those WG members who can help =
find
reviewers in their organization.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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meeting
to the list once it is cleaned up for =
nits).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Dear Stefan,

We are currently involved in the implementation of an open-source
version of the CAPWAP protocol:

Open Source CAPWAP - http://sourceforge.net/projects/capwap/

The projects aims at implementing WTP and AC linux daemons,
communicating through the CAPWAP protocol and providing basic functionaliti=
es
for the configuration of hotspots (discovery, capabilities exchange,
channel, transmission power and WMM configuration, WTP statistics
forwarding to the AC). On sourceforge you can find our implementation
based on draft 9 of the protocol and IEEE 802.11 binding,
while a new version based on draft 12 will be available soon.

Our implementation of WTP software has been successfuly transfered on
Access Points running open-WRT software.

Our AC software supports both Local and Split MAC management models.  =

Conversely, our WTP software currently supports only Local MAC  =

management model.

If you are interested in having more information on our  =

implementation, you can contact me (vollero@ieee.org) or Massimo  =

Bernaschi (massimo@iac.cnr.it).

Best Regards,
Luca Vollero

Quoting Stefan Winter <stefan.winter@restena.lu>:

> Hello,
>
> last week was my first CAPWAP meeting. It was somewhat sad to hear the
> desperate calls for field implementations, and even more sad to see that
> noone in the room responded.
>
> So, as a little heads-up, I know of a WiFi vendor who actually has a
> Wireless LAN Controller which uses CAPWAP for device communication. The
> company is called LANCOM, and probably not large enough to assume that
> people on the list know it.
> Their stuff is unsurprisingly called WLC (Wireless LAN Controller), and
> the data sheet at [1] and manual at [2] clearly state that they are
> doing IETF-style CAPWAP.
>
> Just so you know.
>
> Oh, and as even more of heads-up, as operator of a WiFi Roaming
> Consortium with hundreds of hot spots (www.eduroam.org), and an unknown
> number of vendors for these spots, I would very much appreciate
> interoperability!
>
> Greetings,
>
> Stefan Winter
>
> [1]   =

> http://www.lancom-systems.de/fileadmin/produkte/lc_wlc_4025/WLC-4025_EN.p=
df
> (page 3)
> [2] http://www.lancom-systems.de/download/LC-WLC-4025/LC-WLC-MANUAL-EN.pdf
> (Cahpter 1.1)
>
> --
> Stefan WINTER
> Ingenieur de Recherche
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For 3GPP H(e)NB security, link is
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-Hui

2008/11/25 Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) <pcalhoun@cisco.com>

> There are three organizations working on femto; 3GPP, WiMAX Forum and
> Femto Forum. Of the three, only 3GPP makes its documents available to
> non-members. There's a whole list of 3GPP docs that pertain to Femto,
> but you can start at SP-070952 (WID on Requirements for Home NodeB /
> eNode).
>
> PatC
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> > Hi Charles,
> >
> > I know many folks in the femtocell space, and know that they have an
> > alternate approach to CAPWAP.
>
> Care to share some of that "knowledge"?
>
> > While the WG could focus on this work
> > item, I'm not sure it would ever see the light of day as it would
> > compete against other standards.
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> What are these standards?
>
> ...
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<div>-Hui<br><br></div>
<div class="gmail_quote">2008/11/25 Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:pcalhoun@cisco.com">pcalhoun@cisco.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">There are three organizations working on femto; 3GPP, WiMAX Forum and<br>Femto Forum. Of the three, only 3GPP makes its documents available to<br>
non-members. There&#39;s a whole list of 3GPP docs that pertain to Femto,<br>but you can start at SP-070952 (WID on Requirements for Home NodeB /<br>eNode).<br><br>PatC<br>
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<div class="Wj3C7c"><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Glen Zorn [mailto:<a href="mailto:glenzorn@comcast.net">glenzorn@comcast.net</a>]<br>Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 1:30 PM<br>To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)<br>Cc: <a href="mailto:capwap@frascone.com">capwap@frascone.com</a><br>
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&gt; alternate approach to CAPWAP.<br><br>Care to share some of that &quot;knowledge&quot;?<br><br>&gt; While the WG could focus on this work<br>&gt; item, I&#39;m not sure it would ever see the light of day as it would<br>
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