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From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Thu Jan 15 04:05:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0423D28C187 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 04:05:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zt90z+Kez1KW for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 04:05:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.mail.tigertech.net (hermes.mail.tigertech.net [64.62.209.72]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0550428C15D for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 04:05:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39D40430202 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 04:05:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80C2E440006 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 04:05:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6963B34AC00E for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 04:05:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD2B34AC009 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 04:05:00 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from nj300815-nj-outbound.avaya.com (nj300815-nj-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.12.100]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 04:04:59 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,269,1231131600"; d="scan'208,217";a="148700300" Received: from unknown (HELO nj300815-nj-erheast.avaya.com) ([198.152.6.5]) by nj300815-nj-outbound.avaya.com with ESMTP; 15 Jan 2009 07:04:58 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO 306181ANEX2.global.avaya.com) ([135.9.6.104]) by nj300815-nj-erheast-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 15 Jan 2009 07:04:58 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 05:04:59 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: MIB drafts are in WGLC Thread-Index: AclPduwSLn2zcP+ZTnyroQ30zrsfMAeTZiXA References: From: "Mani, Mahalingam (Mani)" To: "capwap" Subject: [Capwap] MIB drafts are in WGLC X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1441840670==" Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1441840670== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C97709.7B8D0A8C" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C97709.7B8D0A8C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The 2-week WGLC on the MIB drafts ends on 30th Jan 2009. =20 -mani ________________________________ From: Mani, Mahalingam (Mani) [mailto:mmani@avaya.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:28 PM To: capwap Subject: [Capwap] MIB drafts for WGLC =20 There were several questions that were raised and had responses/non-responses that we decided to take to the list. =20 One of them was if the WG feels whether the MIB drafts are ready for WGLC. Those in the meeting who had read and reviewed the latest drafts felt they are fit to be last-called though they had several comments from their reviews that would require (at least) another revision of each draft. =20 If the WG has any objections to calling a WGLC on the drafts do speak up by Monday, Dec 1. =20 As a corollary - we are also seeking CAPWAP-experts to review the drafts from among the list or those WG members who can help find reviewers in their organization. =20 (We expect to post the minutes of the short one-hour meeting to the list once it is cleaned up for nits). =20 -mani =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Mahalingam Mani (408)321-4840 (w) =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C97709.7B8D0A8C Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The 2-week WGLC on the MIB drafts = ends on 30th  Jan 2009.

 

-mani

From: Mani, = Mahalingam (Mani) [mailto:mmani@avaya.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November = 25, 2008 7:28 PM
To: capwap
Subject: [Capwap] MIB = drafts for WGLC

 

There were several questions that were raised and had responses/non-responses that we decided to take to the = list.

 

One of them was if the WG feels whether the MIB = drafts are ready for WGLC. Those in the meeting who had read and reviewed the = latest drafts

felt they are fit to be last-called though they had = several comments from their reviews that would require (at least) another = revision of each draft.

 

If the WG has any objections to calling a WGLC on the = drafts do speak up by Monday, Dec 1.

 

As a corollary – we are also seeking = CAPWAP-experts to review the drafts from among the list or those WG members who can help = find reviewers in their organization.

 

(We expect to post the minutes of the short one-hour = meeting to the list once it is cleaned up for = nits).

 

-mani

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Mahalingam Mani

(408)321-4840<= /st1:click2dial> = (w)

 

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Briefly, RFC 5378 requires Contributors to grant a more expansive set of rights than were granted by RFC 3978, and 4748. If you are submitting a document which contains text contributed by others prior to the publication of RFC 5378 you may need to obtain additional rights from the copyright holders of that text in order to contribute under the 5378 terms. =20 The IESG and the IETF Trustees are working to resolve those issues (see http://trustee.ietf.org/docs/Background-to-Draft-Update-to-IETF-Trust-Le gal-Provisions.txt). However, at present we would advise care prior to submitting any draft which contains material derived from an RFC, draft, or mailing list message published prior to November 10, 2008. =20 A more detailed description of RFC5378 implications and consideration is available here: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg54839.html =20 Should you wish to discuss this further - such discussion should be addressed to the IETF discussion mailing list (not here).(" One mail list for the discussion seems to be the most productive way to chart a way forward." - RussH). =20 The current thread ("...The IETF Trustees invite your review and commentson a proposed Work-Around to the Pre-5378 Problem") there is focused on the short-term work-around. (Discussion to the long-term solution will come later) - a work-around is on the way. The work-around should be in place to allow submissions to the San Francisco IETF well before the normal deadlines. =20 CAPWAP status - By the way, following this, at the request of at least one of the authors, the three CAPWAP protocol drafts (the RFCs-to-be: 5415, -5416 and -5417) in the RFC-Ed queue have been requested to be placed on hold until this matter is resolved by way of an early work-around from IETF, under discussion in the IETF list. =20 Authors of any other incoming submissions, such as MIB draft revisions, are advised as above. =20 -mani =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Mahalingam Mani (408)321-4840 (w) =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9776C.004840A4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

IETF Chair Russ Housley has = asked WG chairs to apprise their WGs about RFC5378 and its implications to = post-5378 draft submissions:

 

In the IETF mailing list, = there is a discussion currently in progress about the impact of RFC 5378 on revised = draft submissions. Briefly, RFC 5378 requires Contributors to grant a more = expansive set of rights than were granted by RFC 3978, and 4748. If you are = submitting a document which contains text contributed by others prior to the = publication of RFC 5378 you may need to obtain additional rights from the copyright = holders of that text in order to contribute under the 5378 = terms.

 

The IESG and the IETF = Trustees are working to resolve those issues (see http://trustee.ietf.org/docs/Background-to-Dra= ft-Update-to-IETF-Trust-Legal-Provisions.txt).

However, at present we = would advise care prior to submitting any draft which contains material derived from = an RFC, draft, or mailing list message published prior to November 10, = 2008.

 

A more detailed description = of RFC5378 implications and consideration is available here:  = http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg54839.html<= /o:p>

 

Should you wish to discuss this further – such = discussion should be addressed to the IETF discussion mailing list (not = here).(“ One mail list for the discussion seems to be the most productive way to = chart a way forward.” – RussH).

 

The current thread = (“…The IETF Trustees invite your review and commentson a proposed Work-Around = to the Pre-5378 Problem”) there is focused on the short-term = work-around.  (Discussion to the long-term solution will come later) - a work-around is on the = way. The work-around should be in place to allow submissions to the San Francisco = IETF well before the normal deadlines.

 

CAPWAP status -

By the way, following this, at the request of at = least one of the authors, the three CAPWAP protocol drafts (the RFCs-to-be: 5415, = -5416 and -5417) in the RFC-Ed queue have been requested to be placed on hold = until this matter is resolved by way of an early work-around from IETF, under discussion in the IETF list.

 

Authors of any other incoming submissions, such as = MIB draft revisions, are advised as above.

 

-mani

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Mahalingam Mani

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Those in the meeting who had read and reviewed the latest drafts felt they are fit to be last-called though they had several comments from their reviews that would require (at least) another revision of each draft. =20 If the WG has any objections to calling a WGLC on the drafts do speak up by Monday, Dec 1. =20 As a corollary - we are also seeking CAPWAP-experts to review the drafts from among the list or those WG members who can help find reviewers in their organization. =20 (We expect to post the minutes of the short one-hour meeting to the list once it is cleaned up for nits). =20 -mani =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Mahalingam Mani (408)321-4840 (w) =20 ------_=_NextPart_002_01C97973.D2424322 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
As co-authors of one or several CAPWAP = specifications,=20 please provide your feedback on the technical content of the MIB = definitions.=20
 
Thanks and = Regards,
 
Dan
 

From: Mani, Mahalingam (Mani)=20 [mailto:mmani@avaya.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 = 2:05=20 PM
To: capwap
Subject: [Capwap] MIB drafts are in=20 WGLC

The 2-week = WGLC on the=20 MIB drafts ends on 30th  Jan = 2009.

 

-mani

From: Mani,=20 Mahalingam (Mani) [mailto:mmani@avaya.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 = 7:28=20 PM
To: = capwap
Subject: [Capwap] MIB drafts for=20 WGLC

 

There were several = questions that=20 were raised and had responses/non-responses that we decided to take to = the=20 list.

 

One of them was if the WG = feels=20 whether the MIB drafts are ready for WGLC. Those in the meeting who had = read and=20 reviewed the latest drafts

felt they are fit to be = last-called=20 though they had several comments from their reviews that would require = (at=20 least) another revision of each draft.

 

If the WG has any = objections to=20 calling a WGLC on the drafts do speak up by Monday, Dec=20 1.

 

As a corollary – we = are also seeking=20 CAPWAP-experts to review the drafts from among the list or those WG = members who=20 can help find reviewers in their = organization.

 

(We expect to post the = minutes of=20 the short one-hour meeting to the list once it is cleaned up for=20 nits).

 

-mani

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Mahalingam=20 Mani

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I am concerned about this. If any protocol needs to be able to evolve, and create derivative works, it is CAPWAP. Wireless networking is a rapidly changing field and having a "standard" that cannot change with it makes that "standard" pointless. I politely and respectfully ask the chairs to gauge WG consensus on the matter of what we want to do with our drafts with respect to RFC 5378 and then to instruct the editor(s) to follow that consensus. If the editor(s) refuse(s) then I would expect he/she/they to be replaced with someone who is willing to implement the will of the WG. These drafts are not any one person's or any one company's property and the hangups of any person or company shouldn't trump the will of the WG. regards, Dan. _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Sat Jan 24 13:38:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B24B3A69ED for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:38:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.469 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.469 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.130, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id djFtzsPQ-H3z for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:38:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.mail.tigertech.net (hermes.mail.tigertech.net [64.62.209.72]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 722E03A68A1 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:38:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93381C407EC for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:37:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E7544004F for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:37:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59AD419F9AF for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:37:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9B5219F97B for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:37:37 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:37:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7ZEb1b00a1HzFnQ53Zdeuh; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:37:38 +0000 Received: from NEWTON603 ([71.232.143.198]) by OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7Zdd1b00e4H2mdz3aZdeNv; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:37:38 +0000 From: "Dave Nelson" To: References: Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:37:48 -0500 Message-ID: <97B6A5B771014F23BBC5B20007C7234C@NEWTON603> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 thread-index: Acl+aoKhj0dEci0XSKeXMONWbKDQHwAAHNUg Subject: Re: [Capwap] status of CAPWAP X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Dan Harkins writes... > I politely and respectfully ask the chairs to gauge WG consensus > on the matter of what we want to do with our drafts with respect > to RFC 5378 and then to instruct the editor(s) to follow that > consensus. I'm not sure it's as simple as a matter of consensus. The easy way out is to attach the forthcoming "workaround" text to every I-D that isn't written from scratch. The problem, as you may well know, is that if you omit the "workaround" text, RFC 5378 requires the authors to jointly and severally assert things that they may not actually know, specifically, to make assertions about the granting of copyright licenses by a list of persons that may be hard to ascertain. 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CAPWAP is not the only document that is being held up. We already have the RFC numbers if anyone needs to reference them (e.g., EPCGlobal), and the latest drafts can be used for anyone actively developing. Personally, if we believe these need to be published today, then I would instead ask that we force the RFC Editor to adopt the old rules - which applied when the spec was written. PatC -----Original Message----- From: Dan Harkins [mailto:dharkins@lounge.org] Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 1:27 PM To: capwap@frascone.com Subject: [Capwap] status of CAPWAP Hi, Last week Mani wrote: By the way, following this, at the request of at least one of the authors, the three CAPWAP protocol drafts (the RFCs-to-be: 5415, -5416 and -5417) in the RFC-Ed queue have been requested to be placed on hold until this matter is resolved by way of an early work-around from IETF, under discussion in the IETF list. I am concerned about this. If any protocol needs to be able to evolve, and create derivative works, it is CAPWAP. Wireless networking is a rapidly changing field and having a "standard" that cannot change with it makes that "standard" pointless. I politely and respectfully ask the chairs to gauge WG consensus on the matter of what we want to do with our drafts with respect to RFC 5378 and then to instruct the editor(s) to follow that consensus. If the editor(s) refuse(s) then I would expect he/she/they to be replaced with someone who is willing to implement the will of the WG. These drafts are not any one person's or any one company's property and the hangups of any person or company shouldn't trump the will of the WG. regards, Dan. _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From nh301@aftygh.gov.tw Mon Jan 26 07:50:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EDD53A6A07 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:50:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -17.677 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-17.677 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D=1.597, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_DB=0.888, FM_DDDD_TIMES_2=1.999, HELO_DYNAMIC_HCC=4.295, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR2=4.395, HELO_EQ_BR=0.955, HELO_EQ_DSL=1.129, HOST_EQ_BR=1.295, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E4_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY=1.643, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=0.877, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SARE_UNI=0.591, TVD_RCVD_IP=1.931, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_SC_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZnVzAedmb79m for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from 200-103-246-154.ctame705.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br (200-103-246-154.ctame705.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br [200.103.246.154]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id AFFD228C237 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:49:47 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: Smile your way through 2009 From: MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090126154950.AFFD228C237@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:49:47 -0800 (PST)
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From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Mon Jan 26 10:56:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C97C3A68B8 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:56:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.766 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.766 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.833, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9OVlK-1urO84 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:56:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.mail.tigertech.net (hermes.mail.tigertech.net [64.62.209.72]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F7BC3A6880 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:56:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0775043025A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:56:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99B8A44004F for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:56:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8045419FAF2 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:56:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A6319FAED for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:56:25 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from colo.trepanning.net (colo.trepanning.net [69.55.226.174]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:56:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.trepanning.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by colo.trepanning.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C68BA888108; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:56:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from 216.31.249.246 (SquirrelMail authenticated user dharkins@lounge.org) by www.trepanning.net with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:56:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <843f96ff8140a1835be71b2fd861573b.squirrel@www.trepanning.net> In-Reply-To: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A2072DEE50@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> References: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A2072DEE50@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:56:24 -0800 (PST) From: "Dan Harkins" To: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.14 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: capwap@frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] status of CAPWAP X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Hi Pat, Can you expand on _exactly_ what those consequences would be? CAPWAP may not be the only document being held up but it may have the most to lose if the "work around" limits derivative work. Hence my concern. Dan. On Sun, January 25, 2009 11:00 pm, Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) wrote: > Correct Dan, but publication will have many unintended consequences. > From what I am being told, this is actively being addressed now, so I > would prefer we hold off a little longer. CAPWAP is not the only > document that is being held up. We already have the RFC numbers if > anyone needs to reference them (e.g., EPCGlobal), and the latest drafts > can be used for anyone actively developing. > > Personally, if we believe these need to be published today, then I would > instead ask that we force the RFC Editor to adopt the old rules - which > applied when the spec was written. > > PatC > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Harkins [mailto:dharkins@lounge.org] > Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 1:27 PM > To: capwap@frascone.com > Subject: [Capwap] status of CAPWAP > > > Hi, > > Last week Mani wrote: > > By the way, following this, at the request of at least one of the > authors, the three CAPWAP protocol drafts (the RFCs-to-be: 5415, > -5416 and -5417) in the RFC-Ed queue have been requested to be > placed on hold until this matter is resolved by way of an early > work-around from IETF, under discussion in the IETF list. > > I am concerned about this. If any protocol needs to be able to evolve, > and create derivative works, it is CAPWAP. Wireless networking is a > rapidly changing field and having a "standard" that cannot change with > it makes that "standard" pointless. > > I politely and respectfully ask the chairs to gauge WG consensus on > the matter of what we want to do with our drafts with respect to RFC > 5378 > and then to instruct the editor(s) to follow that consensus. If the > editor(s) refuse(s) then I would expect he/she/they to be replaced with > someone who is willing to implement the will of the WG. > > These drafts are not any one person's or any one company's property > and the hangups of any person or company shouldn't trump the will of > the WG. > > regards, > > Dan. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap > _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From katrouk@allfunnypictures.com Mon Jan 26 23:34:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9EDE3A69B3 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:34:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.007 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.007 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D=1.597, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_DB=0.888, FM_DDDD_TIMES_2=1.999, HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR2=4.395, HELO_EQ_DSL=1.129, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E4_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1, SARE_UNI=0.591, TVD_RCVD_IP=1.931, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_OB_SURBL=10, URIBL_RHS_DOB=1.083, URIBL_SC_SURBL=10, URIBL_WS_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0C3rzgJJd+cK for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:34:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from 77-105-23-49.adsl-3.sezampro.yu (77-105-23-49.adsl-3.sezampro.yu [77.105.23.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B98173A6800 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:34:18 -0800 (PST) To: Subject: Thank You! 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From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Tue Jan 27 07:52:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 284223A6A6F for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:52:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.995 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.995 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.604, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RgU6OIZ0xeIj for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:52:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.mail.tigertech.net (hermes.mail.tigertech.net [64.62.209.72]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86E728C0D0 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:52:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541704302F3 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:52:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1868E44004F for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:52:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026B419EC73 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:52:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0457C19EC6C for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:51:58 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Sender first seen 00:30:10 ago / dynamic or unknown reverse DNS) Received: from de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com (de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.71.100]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:51:57 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,332,1231131600"; d="scan'208";a="135260016" Received: from unknown (HELO nj300815-nj-erheast.avaya.com) ([198.152.6.5]) by de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 27 Jan 2009 10:21:43 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.10]) by nj300815-nj-erheast-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 27 Jan 2009 10:21:43 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:21:00 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: AD review of draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-03.txt Thread-Index: AcmAktv2V7KUx1aBS16GLZnPxdd4Ig== From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: Subject: [Capwap] AD review of draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-03.txt X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Please find below the AD review of draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-03.txt. I have divided my comments into Technical and Editorial comments. This document is not ready to be submitted to the IESG. It needs one more iteration at least, but I suggest to do it after a serious scrutiny from the WG members who know well the protocol. Regards, Dan T1. Running smilint results in the following errors: mibs/CAPWAP-BASE-MIB:480: [5] {index-exceeds-too-large} warning: index of row `capwapBaseWtpStateEntry' can exceed OID size limit by 6 subidentifier(s) mibs/CAPWAP-BASE-MIB:582: [5] {index-exceeds-too-large} warning: index of row `capwapBaseWtpEntry' can exceed OID size limit by 6 subidentifier(s) mibs/CAPWAP-BASE-MIB:1090: [5] {index-exceeds-too-large} warning: index of row `capwapBaseRadioBindEntry' can exceed OID size limit by 7 subidentifier(s) mibs/CAPWAP-BASE-MIB:1181: [5] {index-exceeds-too-large} warning: index of row `capwapBaseStationEntry' can exceed OID size limit by 13 subidentifier(s) mibs/CAPWAP-BASE-MIB:1249: [5] {index-exceeds-too-large} warning: index of row `capwapBaseWtpRebootStatsEntry' can exceed OID size limit by 6 subidentifier(s) mibs/CAPWAP-BASE-MIB:1408: [5] {index-exceeds-too-large} warning: index of row `capwapBaseRadioStatsEntry' can exceed OID size limit by 7 subidentifier(s) The reason is that these tables are indexed with objects of SYNTAX of CapwapBaseWtpIdTC which has a maximal size of 128, equal to the maximal size allowed for the whole OID. Reducing the maximal size of the TC to anything less or equal than 115 solves the problem. T2. Section 5 - ' To reuse current MIB standards and future extensions for a wireless binding technology' - it is not clear what 'future extensions' may be and I would not commit to using them in advance, so I would suggest to drop this T3 What are the 'MIB standards of other SDOs' that need to be reused? Please refer to them specifically at least by providing one example - for instance where does Dot11OperationTable come from? T4. In order for ifIndex to be used as a common handler for the CAPWAP MIB and for the interface specific MIB modules like a dot11 MIB from IEEE one needs to ensure that the same numbering scheme and mapping is used by all MIB modules, and that it behaves identically for events like interface card swapping, reset or power loss. I do not see how this can happen, I am not sure that this is possible at all, and in any case there is no text in the CAPWAP MIB that explains this mechanism. T5. Section 7.2 - 'The interface SHOULD be modeled as an ifEntry' - Is a SHOULD enough or rather a MUST is required here taking into account the requirements in Section 5. T6. The documents that define the MIB modules required for IMPORTs must be listed in the Normative References section. T7. In the example in Section 8 capwapBaseWtpId equals the representation of the OCTET STRING '12345678' and not the number 12345678 T8. In the example in Section 8 ifPhysicalAddress should have six zeros. T9. What is the Vendor Identifier mentioned in Section 9 as being assigned by IANA? Is this something specific for this MIB document - in this case it needs to be mentioned in the IANA considerations section? T10. Why does one need a special TC for CapwapBaseWtpIdTC? If this is typically a serial number, then SnmpAdminString SIZE (1..128) should do. T11. In any case why is the SIZE in this TC fixed at 128? T12. A number of read-write objects do not have the persistency behavior defined in case of agent reboot - capwapBaseStationSessionsLimit, capwapBaseDataChannelSecConfig, capwapBaseControlChannelAuthenConfig T13 - Is more than one security policy possible to be configured on a given AC? If not, then why is capwapBaseDataChannelSecConfig a BIT? T14 - the name of capwapBaseDataChannelSecOptions should better be something that includes DTLSPolicy to make clear to what fields in the AC Descriptor it corresponds. The DESCRIPTION should also be consistent with the text in the protocol document T15 - is more than one credential type possible to be configured on a given AC? If not then why is capwapBaseControlChannelAuthenConfig a BIT? T16 - it would be good for management applications writers to mention in the DESCRIPTION clause thatcapwapBaseAcnameListName is expected to be a UTF-8 encoded string T17 - Object names in capwapBaseWtpStateTable do not respect the naming conditions relative to capwapBaseWtpStateEntry T18 - same for capwapBaseWtpStateTable T19 - capwapBaseWtpName is of SYNTAX AsnmpAdminString which is limited to SIZE 255, while the WTP name can be up to 512 characters T20 - same about capwapbaseWtpLocation which can be up to 1024 characters in length T21 - Section 4.8 defines default value for a number of variables. However, these are not reflected in the MIB - for example why is there not a DEFAULT clause that will set capwapBaseWtpFallbackEnable to enabled(1) as per 4.8.9? Or capwapBaseWtpMaxDiscoveries which has a default of 10 defined in 4.8.5 T22 - why does the MIB support reserved(0) for capwapBaseWtpFallbackEnable. Does setting to reserved(0) by the management application have any significance? T23 - According to 4.8.8 capwapBaseWtpRetransmitCount is a monotonous increasing counter. The appropriate SYNTAX for such an object is Counter32 and not Unsigned32 T24 - it would be useful to define UNITS clauses for objects like capwapBaseWtpRetransmitCount T25 - define a range (2..180) for capwapBaseWtpMaxDiscoveryInterval T27 - Object names in capwapBaseRadioBindTable do not respect the naming conditions relative to capwapBaseRadioBindEntry T28 - What do the values reserved(0) and reserved(2) in capwapBaseRadioWirelessBinding mean? Are they ever returned by an agent? T29 - in other IETF documents (like RFC 4363) VLAN names are defined as SnmpAdminString (SIZE (0..32)). I suggest the same for capwapBaseStationVlanName. I am aware that section 4.6.8 allows for names up to 512, but I do not find this justified. In any case, if the full size defined in 4.6.8 is to be accommodated, then SnmpAdminString would not be sufficient as its size is limited to 256. T30 - Object names in capwapBaseWtpRebootStatsTable do not respect the naming conditions relative to capwapBaseWtpRebootStatsEntry T31 - Object names in capwapBaseWtpRadioStatsTable do not respect the naming conditions relative to capwapBaseWtpRadioStatsEntry E1. Even if this document uses terminology borrowed from other CAPWAP documents, acronyms like WTP, AC, etc. should be expanded at the first occurrence. E2. It would be good for the document to be grammar and spelling checked by a native English speaker. E3. No need for sections 6.1, 6.2, 6.3 - these are standard in any MIB module and their content is well known E4. In Section 7.2 there is no need to mention information that is not specific to the CAPWAP MIB E5. In the example in Section 8 ifType should be equal with the value assigned by IANA for the ifType - you may mark it xxx and enter an editor note saying 'RFC Editor - please replace xxx with the value allocated by IANA for IANAifType of 'WTP Virtual Radio Interface') E6. Please indicate specifically for each field for the protocols timers message the exact reference in than CAPWAP protocol document. E7. The numbering of referred paragraphs in the REFERENCE clauses are not synchronized with the latest version of the CAPWAP protocol document as per http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3411.txt E8. No need to repeat the text in the DESCRIPTION clause if a TC is used (e.g. capwapBaseTunnelModeOption, capwapBaseMacTypeOptions) E9 - capwapBaseWtpMaxRetransmitCnt is not a counter so the suffix Cnt should be dropped from the name. E10 - capwapBaseAcMaxRetransmitCnt is not a counter so the suffix Cnt should be dropped from the name. _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Tue Jan 27 09:13:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D0F3A68D2 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:13:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.524 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.524 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.075, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, WHOIS_NETSOLPR=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yo81v5-pBPV0 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:13:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.mail.tigertech.net (hermes.mail.tigertech.net [64.62.209.72]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF9C3A67F0 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:13:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2CC443035D for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:13:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2EB444004F for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:12:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A4919F035 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:12:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F96419F032 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:12:52 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (Low) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (171.71.176.117 whitelisted by list.dnswl.org 9.2) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:12:52 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,332,1231113600"; d="scan'208";a="237558984" Received: from sj-dkim-1.cisco.com ([171.71.179.21]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 27 Jan 2009 17:12:52 +0000 Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com (sj-core-2.cisco.com [171.71.177.254]) by sj-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n0RHCp1B016992; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:12:52 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-211.cisco.com [171.70.151.144]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0RHCpOe018377; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:12:51 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.85]) by xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:12:51 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:12:47 -0800 Message-ID: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A207350950@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <843f96ff8140a1835be71b2fd861573b.squirrel@www.trepanning.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] status of CAPWAP Thread-Index: Acl/585Qk8T4ygqbRkiPPc8al/m/5AAunR4g References: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A2072DEE50@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> <843f96ff8140a1835be71b2fd861573b.squirrel@www.trepanning.net> From: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" To: "Dan Harkins" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jan 2009 17:12:51.0749 (UTC) FILETIME=[7C6F3550:01C980A2] Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-1; header.From=pcalhoun@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim1004 verified; ); Cc: capwap@frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] status of CAPWAP X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Hi Dan, I'd prefer not to be the one to provide legal advice to folks on this list. What I would, however, recommend is that you contact the IETF IP counsel, Jorge Contreras at Wilmer Hale, who can provide you with this information. You can find info on Jorge at http://www.wilmerhale.com/jorge_contreras/. PatC -----Original Message----- From: Dan Harkins [mailto:dharkins@lounge.org] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 10:56 AM To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) Cc: capwap@frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] status of CAPWAP Hi Pat, Can you expand on _exactly_ what those consequences would be? CAPWAP may not be the only document being held up but it may have the most to lose if the "work around" limits derivative work. Hence my concern. Dan. On Sun, January 25, 2009 11:00 pm, Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) wrote: > Correct Dan, but publication will have many unintended consequences. > From what I am being told, this is actively being addressed now, so I > would prefer we hold off a little longer. CAPWAP is not the only > document that is being held up. We already have the RFC numbers if > anyone needs to reference them (e.g., EPCGlobal), and the latest drafts > can be used for anyone actively developing. > > Personally, if we believe these need to be published today, then I would > instead ask that we force the RFC Editor to adopt the old rules - which > applied when the spec was written. > > PatC > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Harkins [mailto:dharkins@lounge.org] > Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 1:27 PM > To: capwap@frascone.com > Subject: [Capwap] status of CAPWAP > > > Hi, > > Last week Mani wrote: > > By the way, following this, at the request of at least one of the > authors, the three CAPWAP protocol drafts (the RFCs-to-be: 5415, > -5416 and -5417) in the RFC-Ed queue have been requested to be > placed on hold until this matter is resolved by way of an early > work-around from IETF, under discussion in the IETF list. > > I am concerned about this. If any protocol needs to be able to evolve, > and create derivative works, it is CAPWAP. Wireless networking is a > rapidly changing field and having a "standard" that cannot change with > it makes that "standard" pointless. > > I politely and respectfully ask the chairs to gauge WG consensus on > the matter of what we want to do with our drafts with respect to RFC > 5378 > and then to instruct the editor(s) to follow that consensus. If the > editor(s) refuse(s) then I would expect he/she/they to be replaced with > someone who is willing to implement the will of the WG. > > These drafts are not any one person's or any one company's property > and the hangups of any person or company shouldn't trump the will of > the WG. > > regards, > > Dan. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap > _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Tue Jan 27 09:32:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE04628C0F1 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:32:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.857 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.857 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.741, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, WHOIS_NETSOLPR=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TZr6S+Gt4p5p for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:32:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.mail.tigertech.net (hermes.mail.tigertech.net [64.62.209.72]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E323A68F3 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:32:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50CD843032E for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:32:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C980244004F for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:32:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA02B34AC003 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:32:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5845234AC002 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:32:12 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from colo.trepanning.net (colo.trepanning.net [69.55.226.174]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:32:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from www.trepanning.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by colo.trepanning.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22123203D0; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:32:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from 69.12.173.8 (SquirrelMail authenticated user dharkins@lounge.org) by www.trepanning.net with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:32:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A207350950@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> References: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A2072DEE50@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> <843f96ff8140a1835be71b2fd861573b.squirrel@www.trepanning.net> <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A207350950@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:32:11 -0800 (PST) From: "Dan Harkins" To: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.14 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: capwap@frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] status of CAPWAP X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Hi Pat, I'm not looking for legal advice, from you or Jorge Contreras. I'm just asking you to elaborate on your statement. I know it was you who requested a hold-up in publication. I'd just like to know what about RFC 5378 concerns you with respect to these documents and what the "workaround" you are seeking looks like. Like you agreed, these are the WG's documents. So you should tell the WG what it is you want done to them. Dan. On Tue, January 27, 2009 9:12 am, Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) wrote: > Hi Dan, > > I'd prefer not to be the one to provide legal advice to folks on this > list. What I would, however, recommend is that you contact the IETF IP > counsel, Jorge Contreras at Wilmer Hale, who can provide you with this > information. You can find info on Jorge at > http://www.wilmerhale.com/jorge_contreras/. > > PatC > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Harkins [mailto:dharkins@lounge.org] > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 10:56 AM > To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) > Cc: capwap@frascone.com > Subject: Re: [Capwap] status of CAPWAP > > > Hi Pat, > > Can you expand on _exactly_ what those consequences would be? > > CAPWAP may not be the only document being held up but it may have > the most to lose if the "work around" limits derivative work. Hence > my concern. > > Dan. > > On Sun, January 25, 2009 11:00 pm, Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) wrote: >> Correct Dan, but publication will have many unintended consequences. >> From what I am being told, this is actively being addressed now, so I >> would prefer we hold off a little longer. CAPWAP is not the only >> document that is being held up. We already have the RFC numbers if >> anyone needs to reference them (e.g., EPCGlobal), and the latest > drafts >> can be used for anyone actively developing. >> >> Personally, if we believe these need to be published today, then I > would >> instead ask that we force the RFC Editor to adopt the old rules - > which >> applied when the spec was written. >> >> PatC >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dan Harkins [mailto:dharkins@lounge.org] >> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 1:27 PM >> To: capwap@frascone.com >> Subject: [Capwap] status of CAPWAP >> >> >> Hi, >> >> Last week Mani wrote: >> >> By the way, following this, at the request of at least one of the >> authors, the three CAPWAP protocol drafts (the RFCs-to-be: 5415, >> -5416 and -5417) in the RFC-Ed queue have been requested to be >> placed on hold until this matter is resolved by way of an early >> work-around from IETF, under discussion in the IETF list. >> >> I am concerned about this. If any protocol needs to be able to evolve, >> and create derivative works, it is CAPWAP. Wireless networking is a >> rapidly changing field and having a "standard" that cannot change with >> it makes that "standard" pointless. >> >> I politely and respectfully ask the chairs to gauge WG consensus on >> the matter of what we want to do with our drafts with respect to RFC >> 5378 >> and then to instruct the editor(s) to follow that consensus. If the >> editor(s) refuse(s) then I would expect he/she/they to be replaced > with >> someone who is willing to implement the will of the WG. >> >> These drafts are not any one person's or any one company's property >> and the hangups of any person or company shouldn't trump the will of >> the WG. >> >> regards, >> >> Dan. >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: >> http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap >> >> Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap >> > > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap > _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwell@address.com Tue Jan 27 10:11:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A7B83A6B84 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:11:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -61.456 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-61.456 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, GB_H_CANADIAN=0.5, GB_H_PHARMACY=1, GB_I_LETTER=-2, GB_PHARMACY=1, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HTML_EXTRA_CLOSE=2.809, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.546, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_3=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100=0.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E4_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_E8_51_100=1.5, RAZOR2_CHECK=0.5, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_UNI=0.591, URIBL_BLACK=20, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CMS+35BfvHlY for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:11:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from amerblind.outbound.ed10.com (ip-164-015.tpi.ru [91.143.164.15]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id EA4B23A68F3 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:11:43 -0800 (PST) Content-Return: allowed X-Mailer: devMail.Net (3.0.1854.22234-2) To: capwap-archive@lists.ietf.org Subject: RE: Canadian Pharmacy Message 49380 From: capwap-archive@lists.ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20090127181143.EA4B23A68F3@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:11:43 -0800 (PST)
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The document needs at least one more iteration before submission to the IESG. I would also advice that the document is reviewed by as many CAPWAP and IEEE 802.11 knowledgeable individuals to make sure that the modeling makes sense and all critical management information is covered by the MIB modules that are defined. The comments are divided into Technical and Editorial. T1. T4. In order for ifIndex to be used as a common handler for the CAPWAP MIB and for the interface specific MIB modules like a dot11 MIB from IEEE one needs to ensure that the same numbering scheme and mapping is used by all MIB modules, and that it behaves identically for events like interface card swapping, reset or power loss. I do not see how this can happen, I am not sure that this is possible at all, and in any case there is no text in the document that explains this mechanism. T2. Is the WLAN Service interface described in Section 7.2 modeled by capwapDot11WlanConfigTable? If so please say it and make this clear by using a more explicit naming convention. The model here is not clear to me. On one hand you say 'the interface SHOULD be modeled as an ifEntry ...' Why only a SHOULD and not a MUST? What is the procedure for the manager? Is he looking for all 802.11 interfaces on the AC and then creates manually a WLAN Service entry in the table for each? What if the ifNumber does not correspond to a 802.11 interface? What if the 802.11 interface disappears? T3. What 'could be always enabled' means for ifAdminStatus and ifOperStatus in the WLAN Service Interface table? Either change this to MUST or explain in what cases these should be other than enabled. T4. What does the statement that 'the other objects such as ifInOctets ... are unused' relative to the VLAN Service interface mean? Counters are always zero? T5. In 7.4 - does the text mean that the manager can reuse objects from the IEEE 802.11 MIB modules, or that values of these objects are being duplicates in this MIB module? (why? Which ones?) In any case the IEEE 802.11 standard that defines these objects must be a Normative Reference for this document. T6. The RFCs that define all MIB modules required for IMPORTSs must be Normative References to this document. T7. The value of the object capwapBaseWTPId in the example is the string '12345678' not the integer 12345678 T8. The names of the objects in the capwapDot11WlanConfigTable are not consistent (similar prefix) to capwapDot11WlanConfigEntry. T9. The names of the objects in the capwapDot11WlanBindTable are not consistent (similar prefix) to capwapDot11WlanBindEntry. T10. What does 'Bits are exclusive for each other for a specific WLAN Id' mean for capwapDot11WlanTunnelMode? That only one tunnel mode can be configured (one bit set)? I assume this does not include the bit unused(0). What happens if the manager sets more than one bit, ore no bit, or unused(0) - how does the agent behave in this case? T11. What is the persistency of the capwapDot11WlanTunnelMode at agent reboot? Is the whole table persistent at agent reboot? T12. I do not understand how does row creation in the capwapDot11WlanBindTable work. It is indexed by ifIndex and capwapDot11WlanId. The only visible object in this table except RowStatus is capwapDot11WlanBssIfIndex which is read-only and the description says that 'it is the same interface as identified by the same value of ifIndex. But the manager cannot read its value until the row exists. How does the manager know its value in order to create the row in the table? T13. Is the capwapDot11WlanBindTable persistent at agent reboot? E1. Not all acronyms are expanded at first occurrence - e.g. WTP E2. Please avoid using the construct 'the MIBs' (e.g. in Section 5). s/the MIBs/the MIB modules/ E3. There is no need to include sections 6.1 and 6.2, they provide no new or specific information for this MIB module. E4. I suggest for this document to be verified by a native English speaker for English spelling and grammar. 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From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Wed Jan 28 11:25:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68193A6B9A for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:25:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.875 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.875 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.723, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, WHOIS_NETSOLPR=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CZ6NmhtvQNjP for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:25:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.mail.tigertech.net (hermes.mail.tigertech.net [64.62.209.72]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7EEB3A67DF for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:25:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from hermes.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16CB643016D for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:25:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by mx2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE52D44004F for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:24:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB92219FAAF for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:24:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C661F19FAAE for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:24:49 -0800 (PST) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 1 (Low) (P0); Accepted (Neutral) Received: from QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.40]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:24:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.59]) by QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 90Pk1b0011GhbT8547Qq8K; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:24:50 +0000 Received: from Harrington73653 ([24.147.240.21]) by OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 97Qp1b00F0UQ6dC3T7QpgP; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:24:49 +0000 From: "David Harrington" To: "'Dan Harkins'" , "'Pat Calhoun \(pacalhou\)'" References: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A2072DEE50@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com><843f96ff8140a1835be71b2fd861573b.squirrel@www.trepanning.net><4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A207350950@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:24:48 -0500 Message-ID: <013301c9817e$15bb0410$0600a8c0@china.huawei.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AcmApTVcHppUHM+YSpORaP9LxM3p7gA2GQtw Cc: capwap@frascone.com Subject: Re: [Capwap] status of CAPWAP X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Hi, The discussion of rfc5378 implications is being held on the ietf mailing list. As already described here, rfc5378 requires authors to make assertions that they may not be in a good position to make, and they could be held legally liable for the assertion. Many authors are withholding their approvals until IETF legal counsel and the IETF Trust resolve the issue. To get a better understanding of the issues, please look to the ietf mailing list. dbh > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Harkins [mailto:dharkins@lounge.org] > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 12:32 PM > To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) > Cc: capwap@frascone.com > Subject: Re: [Capwap] status of CAPWAP > > > Hi Pat, > > I'm not looking for legal advice, from you or Jorge Contreras. > I'm just asking you to elaborate on your statement. > > I know it was you who requested a hold-up in publication. I'd > just like to know what about RFC 5378 concerns you with respect to > these documents and what the "workaround" you are seeking looks like. > > Like you agreed, these are the WG's documents. So you should tell > the WG what it is you want done to them. > > Dan. > > On Tue, January 27, 2009 9:12 am, Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) wrote: > > Hi Dan, > > > > I'd prefer not to be the one to provide legal advice to > folks on this > > list. What I would, however, recommend is that you contact > the IETF IP > > counsel, Jorge Contreras at Wilmer Hale, who can provide > you with this > > information. You can find info on Jorge at > > http://www.wilmerhale.com/jorge_contreras/. > > > > PatC > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dan Harkins [mailto:dharkins@lounge.org] > > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 10:56 AM > > To: Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) > > Cc: capwap@frascone.com > > Subject: Re: [Capwap] status of CAPWAP > > > > > > Hi Pat, > > > > Can you expand on _exactly_ what those consequences would be? > > > > CAPWAP may not be the only document being held up but it may have > > the most to lose if the "work around" limits derivative work. Hence > > my concern. > > > > Dan. > > > > On Sun, January 25, 2009 11:00 pm, Pat Calhoun (pacalhou) wrote: > >> Correct Dan, but publication will have many unintended > consequences. > >> From what I am being told, this is actively being > addressed now, so I > >> would prefer we hold off a little longer. CAPWAP is not the only > >> document that is being held up. We already have the RFC numbers if > >> anyone needs to reference them (e.g., EPCGlobal), and the latest > > drafts > >> can be used for anyone actively developing. > >> > >> Personally, if we believe these need to be published today, then I > > would > >> instead ask that we force the RFC Editor to adopt the old rules - > > which > >> applied when the spec was written. > >> > >> PatC > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Dan Harkins [mailto:dharkins@lounge.org] > >> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 1:27 PM > >> To: capwap@frascone.com > >> Subject: [Capwap] status of CAPWAP > >> > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> Last week Mani wrote: > >> > >> By the way, following this, at the request of at > least one of the > >> authors, the three CAPWAP protocol drafts (the > RFCs-to-be: 5415, > >> -5416 and -5417) in the RFC-Ed queue have been requested to be > >> placed on hold until this matter is resolved by way > of an early > >> work-around from IETF, under discussion in the IETF list. > >> > >> I am concerned about this. If any protocol needs to be > able to evolve, > >> and create derivative works, it is CAPWAP. Wireless networking is a > >> rapidly changing field and having a "standard" that cannot > change with > >> it makes that "standard" pointless. > >> > >> I politely and respectfully ask the chairs to gauge WG > consensus on > >> the matter of what we want to do with our drafts with > respect to RFC > >> 5378 > >> and then to instruct the editor(s) to follow that consensus. 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