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Do provide any comments you have for further readability improvements; as well as all technical comments on changes. =20 The WGLC closes 17 June 2009. =20 Regards, -mani =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Mahalingam Mani 408.321.4840 (w) =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9E480.AC98F79C Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Starting today a 2-week WGLC on the MIB drafts posted = a few days ago (May 29):

 

http://= tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-05

htt= p://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-capwap-802dot11-mib-04<= /span>

 

Richard will post references to the ID tracker IDs = for all the salient changes made; these drafts have also been cleaned up = editorially. Do provide any comments you have for further readability improvements; as = well as all technical comments on changes.

 

The WGLC closes 17 June = 2009.

 

Regards,

-mani

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

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Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
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Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
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* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
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Examples of details you would forward to us are:
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Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
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* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

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If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Lupe@ms-shopper.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

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Thank you,
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WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105
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Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.

Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Tara@ms-shopper.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Michael McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105
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Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
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* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.

Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

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If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Virgil@ms-shopper.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
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Seattle, WA 98105
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and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.

Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Anthony@ms-shopper.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Michael McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105
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Here're some comments on the base mib doc. =20 Thanks, Abhijit =20 =20 Section 5.7. WTP Profile =20 In a centralized WLAN architecture, a WTP profile is used to make configurations such as static IP address for a WTP before and after it connects to the AC. It MUST contain the serial number [RFC5415 ] of the WTP because the CAPWAP message received from the WTP contains its serial number and the AC uses this serial number to find the corresponding WTP profile. =20 [Comment] A serial number is not guaranteed to be unique. This needs to be=20 based on something that is guaranteed to be unique - like the AP MAC address. Need corresponding changes in the rest of the doc where serial number is is used like CapwapBaseWtpIdTC etc. =20 Another important function of WTP profile is to trigger the creation of WTP Virtual Radio Interfaces on the AC. To implement this function, a WTP profile MUST include the WTP's model number [RFC5415 ], which reflects the number of PHY radios on the WTP. In this way, the creation of a WTP profile triggers the AC to automatically create the same number of WTP Virtual Radio Interfaces corresponding to the WTP's PHY radios without manual intervention. With the ifIndexes of WTP Virtual Radio Interfaces, the operator could configure and manage the WTP's PHY radios through the wireless binding MIB modules. =20 [Comment] In CAPWAP, WTP informs the number of radio's and creates the profile. So,=20 instead of assuming number of radios based on Model number, we should use that information. In fact, a model number is not indicative of how many radios are active. For example, a modular AP could initially start with one radio, and then have another added later - but would be still using the same model number. =20 =20 Section 7.2. 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The drafts will be submitted to the IESG in the next few days if I hear no objections in the next few days until the weekend (6/21). =20 Regards, -mani ________________________________ From: Mani, Mahalingam (Mani) [mailto:mmani@avaya.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 12:23 PM To: capwap@frascone.com Subject: [Capwap] WGLC start on the latest MIB drafts Importance: High =20 Starting today a 2-week WGLC on the MIB drafts posted a few days ago (May 29): =20 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-05 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-capwap-802dot11-mib-04 =20 Richard will post references to the ID tracker IDs for all the salient changes made; these drafts have also been cleaned up editorially. Do provide any comments you have for further readability improvements; as well as all technical comments on changes. =20 The WGLC closes 17 June 2009. =20 Regards, -mani =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Mahalingam Mani 408.321.4840 (w) =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9F149.C29C43FC Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Mani,

 

Sorry for the delay.  Here’re some comments on = the base mib doc.

 

Thanks,

Abhijit

 

 

Section 5.7.  WTP = Profile

 
   In a centralized WLAN =
architecture, a WTP profile is used to =
make
   configurations such as static IP =
address for a WTP before and after
   it =
connects to the AC.  It MUST contain the serial number [RFC5415]
   of =
the WTP because the CAPWAP message received from the WTP =
contains
   its serial number and the =
AC uses this serial number to find =
the
   corresponding WTP =
profile.
 
[Comment] A = serial number is not guaranteed to be unique. This needs to be = 
       &nbs=
p;  based on something that is guaranteed to be unique – =
like the AP MAC address.
       &nbs=
p;  Need corresponding changes in the rest of the doc where serial =
number is
       &nbs=
p;  is used like CapwapBaseWtpIdTC =
etc.
&nbs=
p;
   Another important function of WTP =
profile is to trigger the creation
   of =
WTP Virtual Radio Interfaces on the AC.  To implement =
this
   function, a WTP profile MUST include the WTP's model =
number
   [RFC5415], which reflects the number of =
PHY radios on the WTP.  =
In
   this way, the creation of a WTP =
profile triggers the AC to
   =
automatically create the same number of WTP Virtual Radio =
Interfaces
   corresponding to the WTP's =
PHY radios without manual =
intervention.
   With the ifIndexes of =
WTP Virtual Radio Interfaces, the =
operator
   could configure and manage =
the WTP's PHY radios through the =
wireless
   binding MIB =
modules.
 
[Comment] =
In CAPWAP, WTP informs the number of radio’s and creates the =
profile. So, 
      instead =
of assuming number of radios based on Model number, we should use that =
information.
      In fact, a =
model number is not indicative of how many radios are active.  For =
example, a
      modular AP =
could initially start with one radio, and then have another added later =
– but would
      be still using =
the same model =
number.
 

 

Section 7.2.  Relationship to IF-MIB = Module

 
   Also, as an ifIndex [RFC2863] is used as a common handler for =
a
   corresponding interfaces in the =
CAPWAP-BASE-MIB and specific wireless =

   technologies MIB modules, the AC =
MUST have a mechanism that =

   preserves the values of the ifIndexes in the ifTable =
at AC =
reboot.
 
[Comment] =
This seems to be a very stringent requirement to impose. =

       Why =
do the ifIndexes need to be persistent across AC reboots ? =

 

From:= Mani, = Mahalingam (Mani) [mailto:mmani@avaya.com]
Sent: 2009-06-18 12:14
To: capwap@frascone.com
Subject: [Capwap] WGLC concludes on the latest MIB = drafts

 

The WG last call issued two weeks ago (see below) has = closed. You are still welcome to provide comments. The drafts will be submitted to = the IESG in the next few days if I hear no objections in the next few days until = the weekend (6/21).

 

Regards,

-mani

From:= Mani, = Mahalingam (Mani) [mailto:mmani@avaya.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 12:23 PM
To: capwap@frascone.com
Subject: [Capwap] WGLC start on the latest MIB drafts
Importance: High

 

Starting today a 2-week WGLC on the MIB drafts posted a few days ago (May = 29):

 

http://= tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-05

htt= p://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-capwap-802dot11-mib-04<= /span>

 

Richard will post references to the ID tracker IDs for all the salient changes = made; these drafts have also been cleaned up editorially. Do provide any = comments you have for further readability improvements; as well as all technical = comments on changes.

 

The WGLC closes 17 June 2009.

 

Regards,

=

-mani

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D

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Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
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Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
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* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

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the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
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* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
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* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

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If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Sal@ms-shopper.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

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Thank you,
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WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105
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We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.

Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Orlando@ms-shopper.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Michael McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105
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We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.

Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Aurora@super-videozz.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Michael McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105
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We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.

Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Santos@super-videozz.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Michael McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105
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Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
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No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.

Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Bernadette@super-videozz.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Michael McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105
From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Sun Jun 21 17:55:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D61328C160 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:55:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HOQ0Joke8k4O for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:55:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039DB28C154 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:55:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F48BEDC01C for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D3B0E240D3 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:56:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8DA34AC03C for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:56:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CACC34AC033 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:56:03 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rishyang@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com (qw-out-1920.google.com [74.125.92.145]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:56:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 4so1592235qwk.44 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:56:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.45.198 with SMTP id g6mr3484861vcf.71.1245632160766; Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:56:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:56:00 +0800 Message-ID: <8556013e0906211756r2c284779yc286472aff18fb42@mail.gmail.com> From: Richard To: capwap@frascone.com Subject: [Capwap] Thanks Abhijit's comment, please check my comments inline X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1081476811==" Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com --===============1081476811== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b85b07c577b046ce5560f --0016363b85b07c577b046ce5560f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Abhijit: Thanks you. I am a editor of MIB draft. Please check my comments inline. (identified by [Richard]. 1) Q1 Section 5.7. WTP Profile In a centralized WLAN architecture, a WTP profile is used to make configurations such as static IP address for a WTP before and after it connects to the AC. It MUST contain the serial number [RFC5415 ] of the WTP because the CAPWAP message received from the WTP contains its serial number and the AC uses this serial number to find the corresponding WTP profile. [Abhijit] A serial number is not guaranteed to be unique. This needs to be based on something that is guaranteed to be unique - like the AP MAC address. Need corresponding changes in the rest of the doc where serial number is is used like CapwapBaseWtpIdTC etc. [ Richard ] Suggest WG decide to use the AP MAC or serial number. Although editors think that serial number is ok, editors could do changes if most people suggest to use the AP MAC. 2) Q2 Another important function of WTP profile is to trigger the creation of WTP Virtual Radio Interfaces on the AC. To implement this function, a WTP profile MUST include the WTP's model number [RFC5415 ], which reflects the number of PHY radios on the WTP. In this way, the creation of a WTP profile triggers the AC to automatically create the same number of WTP Virtual Radio Interfaces corresponding to the WTP's PHY radios without manual intervention. With the ifIndexes of WTP Virtual Radio Interfaces, the operator could configure and manage the WTP's PHY radios through the wireless binding MIB modules. [Abhijit] In CAPWAP, WTP informs the number of radio's and creates the profile. So, instead of assuming number of radios based on Model number, we should use that information. In fact, a model number is not indicative of how many radios are active. For example, a modular AP could initially start with one radio, and then have another added later - but would be still using the same model number. [Richard] The model number indicate how many radios a WTP could have and it is the maximum number of radios. When the vendors manufacture the AP equipments, the model number already decide how many radios a specific AP could have. Although WTP would inform the number of radio in use, the number should be less than the maximum number decided by the model number. If it is required, the drafts could add some text to handle the case when radio in use is less than the maximum radios number told by the model number. 3) Q3 Section 7.2. Relationship to IF-MIB Module Also, as an ifIndex [RFC2863 ] is used as a common handler for a corresponding interfaces in the CAPWAP-BASE-MIB and specific wireless technologies MIB modules, the AC MUST have a mechanism that preserves the values of the ifIndexes in the ifTable at AC reboot. [Abhijit] This seems to be a very stringent requirement to impose. Why do the ifIndexes need to be persistent across AC reboots ? [ Richard] It was ever discussed during last IETF 74 meeting and had a conclusion at the time: The WG thinks that the mechanism brought forward by the editors is accepable. I would like send a the slide for the last meeting to Abhijit, and it explains a mechanism about persistence of the ifIndex. Regards Richard --0016363b85b07c577b046ce5560f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,=A0 Abhijit:
=A0
Thanks you. I am a editor of MIB draft. Please check my comments inlin= e.
(identified by [Richard].
=A0
1) Q1
=A0Section 5.7.=A0 WTP Profile
=A0 In a centralized WLAN architecture, a WTP profile is used to make<= br>=A0 configurations such as static IP address for a WTP before and after<= br>=A0 it connects to the AC.=A0 It MUST contain the serial number [RFC5415=
<http://tools.ietf.org/ht= ml/rfc5415> ]
=A0 of the WTP because the CAPWAP message received = from the WTP contains
=A0 its serial number and the AC uses this serial = number to find the
=A0 corresponding WTP profile.

[Abhijit] A serial number is not guar= anteed to be unique. This needs to
be=A0based on something that is guara= nteed to be unique - like the
AP MAC address. =A0Need corresponding chan= ges in the rest of the doc
where serial number is=A0=A0is used like CapwapBaseWtpIdTC etc.
=A0
[ Richard ]=A0Suggest WG decide to use the AP MAC or serial number.=A0=A0Although editors think that serial number is ok, editors could do ch= anges=A0
=A0=A0if most people suggest to use the AP MAC.
=A0
=A0 2) Q2
=A0 Another important function of WTP profile is to trigger the creati= on
=A0 of WTP Virtual Radio Interfaces on the AC.=A0 To implement this=A0 function, a WTP profile MUST include the WTP's model number
= =A0 [RFC5415 <http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5415> ], which reflects the
number of PHY radios on the WTP.=A0 In
=A0 this way, the creation of a W= TP profile triggers the AC to
=A0 automatically create the same number o= f WTP Virtual Radio Interfaces
=A0 corresponding to the WTP's PHY ra= dios without manual intervention.
=A0 With the ifIndexes of WTP Virtual Radio Interfaces, the operator
=A0= could configure and manage the WTP's PHY radios through the wireless=A0 binding MIB modules.
=A0
[Abhijit] In CAPWAP, WTP informs the number of radio's and creates= the
profile. So,=A0instead of assuming number of radios based on Model = number, we
should use that information.
=A0In fact, a model number is= not indicative of how many radios are
active.=A0 For example, a=A0modular AP could initially start with one radio= ,
and then have another added later - but would be still using the same = model number.
=A0
[Richard] The model number indicate how many radios a WTP could have a= nd
=A0it is=A0 the maximum number of radios.
When the vendors manufact= ure the AP equipments, the model number
already decide how many radios = a specific AP could have.
Although WTP would inform the number of radio = in use, the number should be
less than the maximum number decided by the model number.
If it is requi= red, the drafts could add some text to handle the case
when radio in use is less than=A0the maximum radios number told by
the model number.
=A0
3) Q3

=A0 Section 7.2.=A0 Relationship to IF-MIB Module
=A0 Also, as an ifIndex [RFC2863 <http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2863> = ]
=A0 is used as a common handler for a
=A0 corresponding interfaces = in the CAPWAP-BASE-MIB and specific wireless
=A0 technologies MIB modules, the AC MUST have a mechanism that
=A0= preserves the values of the ifIndexes in the ifTable at AC reboot.
=A0
[Abhijit] This seems to be a very stringent requirement to impose.
= Why do the ifIndexes need to be persistent across AC reboots ?

[ Richard]=A0 It was ever discussed during last IETF 74=A0meeting<= br>and had a conclusion at the time:=A0The WG thinks=A0that=A0the mechanism=
brought forward=A0by the editors is accepable.
I=A0would like send a the slide for the last=A0meeting to Abhijit,=A0<= /div>
and it explains a mechanism about persistence of the ifIndex.
=A0
Regards
Richard
--0016363b85b07c577b046ce5560f-- --===============1081476811== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap --===============1081476811==-- From lima.cristina7@amschool.edu.sv Mon Jun 22 04:19:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A743A3A6DCE for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 04:19:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -88.653 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-88.653 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, RDNS_NONE=0.1, SARE_WEOFFER=0.3, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UZ5JEcdvfLzY for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 04:19:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adwea.gov.ae (unknown [88.233.161.69]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C02313A6A05 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 04:19:37 -0700 (PDT) To: capwap-archive@ietf.org Subject: Re: Mystery/Shopper [$800/week] From: capwap-archive@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090622111938.C02313A6A05@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 04:19:37 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for your interest in the Mystery Shopper position.
Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.

Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Angela@super-videozz.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Michael McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
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We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
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* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

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Examples of details you would forward to us are:
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2) Politeness of the attendant.
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4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

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* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

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Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

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410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105
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Our company conducts surveys and evaluates other companies in order to help them achieve their performance goals.
We offer an integrated suite of business solutions that enables corporations to achieve tangible results in the marketplace.

We get hired by other companies and act like customers to find out how they are handling their services in relation to their customers.
Mystery Shopping is the most accurate and reliable tool a business can use to gather information regarding their actual customer service performance at the moment of truth.
This moment of truth is not when the staff is on their best behavior because the boss is around - it is when they interact with customers during their normal daily routines.

This is where you, the Mystery Shopper, come in.
You pose as an ordinary customer and provide feedback of both factual observations (ex...the floor was free of debris)
and your own opinions (ex...I felt that the temperature in the establishment was too cold).

Mystery Shoppers must remain anonymous. You must act as a regular customer and be careful not to do anything that would reveal you as a shopper.
An inexperienced shopper could tip off the staff to his/her identity by asking for the manager's name for no clear or appropriate reason.
If you are going to be bringing someone with you on the shop, make sure you educate them about the process as well.
Beware that even whispers can be overheard by employees. If anyone notices you are a shopper,
you can bet that word will quickly spread around the establishment and you will get some of the best customer service in town.

No company can afford to have a gap between the promise of quality and its actual delivery, that's why leading corporations look to us,
the nation's premiere mystery shopping and customer experience measurement company.

In order for a business to effectively compete in today's economy, they must be prepared to meet the challenge of increasing sales by:
* Retaining existing customers
* Acquiring new customers
* Creating word-of-mouth advocacy
* Improving customer loyalty

Once we have a contract to do so, you would be directed to the company or outlet, and you would be given
the funds you need to do the job(either purchase merchandise or require services), after which you would write a detailed report of your experience.

Examples of details you would forward to us are:
1) How long does it take to get served.
2) Politeness of the attendant.
3) Customer service professionalism.
4) Sometimes you might be required to upset the attendant, to see how they deal with difficult clients.

Then we turn the information over to the company executives and they will carry out their own duties in improving their services.
Most companies employ our assistance when people complain about their services, or when they feel there is a need for them to improve upon their customer service.
Our company partners with you to implement proven mystery shop auditing and surveying strategies that provide critical information about customer experiences.

You will be paid a commission of $100 for every duty you carry out, and bonus on your transportation allowance.
Your task will be to evaluate and comment on customer service in a wide variety of restaurants, retail stores, casinos,
shopping malls, banks and hotels in your area.

Qualities of a good Mystery Shopper:
* Is 21 years of age or older
* Loves to go shopping
* Is fair and objective
* Is ON TIME
* Is very observant and able to focus on details
* Is fairly intelligent
* Has patience
* Is detail oriented
* Is practical
* Types well
* Is trustworthy
* Explains well in writing
* Is discreet
* Loves to learn
* Handles deadlines
* Has full internet access (at home or at work)

Mystery Shopping is fun and exciting but also must be approached very seriously and is definitely not for everyone.

If you are interested in applying for consideration as a Mystery Shopper do send in your information: Cristina@super-videozz.com
Full Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone Number:
Age:
Occupation:

As soon as we receive your information we will add you to our database and we will look for locations in your area that needs to be evaluated.

Thank you,
Michael McDowell
WA Surveys
410 Roosevelt Way NE
Seattle, WA 98105
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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9F3A4.EB5E4620-- From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Mon Jun 22 19:09:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442D63A67F8 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:09:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LR8qIXTW0eLt for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C6C93A68AD for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8202EE182DA for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:09:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36724E240D3 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:09:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F0E1CD4A6 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:09:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF7B1CD492 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:09:44 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (rishyang@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-qy0-f171.google.com (mail-qy0-f171.google.com [209.85.221.171]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:09:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qyk1 with SMTP id 1so4289925qyk.16 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:09:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.71.6 with SMTP id f6mr4673607vcj.99.1245722983367; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:09:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:09:43 +0800 Message-ID: <8556013e0906221909m5a80f2bdx108938c2025e71f7@mail.gmail.com> From: Richard To: capwap@frascone.com, achoudhu@cisco.com Cc: Yong Zhang Subject: [Capwap] The issue of WTP Id X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0137510346==" Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com --===============0137510346== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485e8d216e98597046cfa7b2c --001485e8d216e98597046cfa7b2c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Abhijit: I also discussed the issue 1 (The issue of WTP Id) raised by you with my co-editor Yong. Please check the following opinion: If we use the Base MAC Address in 4.6.40 WTP Board Data, this 4 - Base MAC Address is not a MUST HAVE Board Data Sub-Element. If we use the base Bssid in 6.23. IEEE 802.11 WTP Radio Configuration, the capwap protocol allow this to be changed by AC. ( 5.8 Configuration Status Response Message and 5.9. Configuration Update Request Message can have 6.23. IEEE 802.11 WTP Radio Configuration). we think here we should use something not changeable, right? Could we use the Vendor Identifier + serial number? Regards Richard 2009/6/22 > Send Capwap mailing list submissions to > capwap@frascone.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > capwap-request@frascone.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > capwap-owner@frascone.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Capwap digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Thanks Abhijit's comment, please check my comments inline > (Richard) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:56:00 +0800 > From: Richard > Subject: [Capwap] Thanks Abhijit's comment, please check my comments > inline > To: capwap@frascone.com > Message-ID: > <8556013e0906211756r2c284779yc286472aff18fb42@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi, Abhijit: > > Thanks you. I am a editor of MIB draft. Please check my comments inline. > (identified by [Richard]. > > 1) Q1 > Section 5.7. WTP Profile > In a centralized WLAN architecture, a WTP profile is used to make > configurations such as static IP address for a WTP before and after > it connects to the AC. It MUST contain the serial number [RFC5415 > ] > of the WTP because the CAPWAP message received from the WTP contains > its serial number and the AC uses this serial number to find the > corresponding WTP profile. > > [Abhijit] A serial number is not guaranteed to be unique. This needs to > be based on something that is guaranteed to be unique - like the > AP MAC address. Need corresponding changes in the rest of the doc > where serial number is is used like CapwapBaseWtpIdTC etc. > > [ Richard ] Suggest WG decide to use the AP MAC or serial number. > Although editors think that serial number is ok, editors could do changes > if most people suggest to use the AP MAC. > > 2) Q2 > Another important function of WTP profile is to trigger the creation > of WTP Virtual Radio Interfaces on the AC. To implement this > function, a WTP profile MUST include the WTP's model number > [RFC5415 ], which reflects the > number of PHY radios on the WTP. In > this way, the creation of a WTP profile triggers the AC to > automatically create the same number of WTP Virtual Radio Interfaces > corresponding to the WTP's PHY radios without manual intervention. > With the ifIndexes of WTP Virtual Radio Interfaces, the operator > could configure and manage the WTP's PHY radios through the wireless > binding MIB modules. > > [Abhijit] In CAPWAP, WTP informs the number of radio's and creates the > profile. So, instead of assuming number of radios based on Model number, we > should use that information. > In fact, a model number is not indicative of how many radios are > active. For example, a modular AP could initially start with one radio, > and then have another added later - but would be still using the same model > number. > > [Richard] The model number indicate how many radios a WTP could have and > it is the maximum number of radios. > When the vendors manufacture the AP equipments, the model number > already decide how many radios a specific AP could have. > Although WTP would inform the number of radio in use, the number should be > less than the maximum number decided by the model number. > If it is required, the drafts could add some text to handle the case > when radio in use is less than the maximum radios number told by > the model number. > > 3) Q3 > > Section 7.2. Relationship to IF-MIB Module > Also, as an ifIndex [RFC2863 ] > is used as a common handler for a > corresponding interfaces in the CAPWAP-BASE-MIB and specific wireless > technologies MIB modules, the AC MUST have a mechanism that > preserves the values of the ifIndexes in the ifTable at AC reboot. > > [Abhijit] This seems to be a very stringent requirement to impose. > Why do the ifIndexes need to be persistent across AC reboots ? > > [ Richard] It was ever discussed during last IETF 74 meeting > and had a conclusion at the time: The WG thinks that the mechanism > brought forward by the editors is accepable. > I would like send a the slide for the last meeting to Abhijit, > and it explains a mechanism about persistence of the ifIndex. > > Regards > Richard > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap/attachments/20090622/18283a41/attachment.htm > > ------------------------------ > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap > > End of Capwap Digest, Vol 43, Issue 4 > ************************************* > --001485e8d216e98597046cfa7b2c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, Abhijit:
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I also discussed the issue 1 (The issue of WTP Id) raised by you with = my co-editor Yong.
Please check the following opinion:
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If we use the Base MAC Address in 4.6.40 WTP Board Data, this 4 - Base= MAC Address is not a MUST HAVE Board Data Sub-Element.
If we use the base Bssid in 6.23. IEEE 802.11 WTP Radio Configuration,= the capwap protocol allow this to be changed by AC. ( 5.8 Configuration St= atus Response Message and 5.9. Configuration Update Request Message can hav= e 6.23. IEEE 802.11 WTP Radio Configuration). we think here we should use s= omething not changeable, right?
Could we use the Vendor Identifier + serial number?
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Regards
Richard

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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:= 56:00 +0800
From: Richard <rish= yang@gmail.com>
Subject: [Capwap] Thanks Abhijit's comment, please check my comments=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0inline
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Hi, =A0Ab= hijit:

Thanks you. I am a editor of MIB draft. Please check my comme= nts inline.
(identified by [Richard].

1) Q1
=A0Section 5.7. = =A0WTP Profile
=A0In a centralized WLAN architecture, a WTP profile is used to make
=A0= configurations such as static IP address for a WTP before and after
=A0i= t connects to the AC. =A0It MUST contain the serial number [RFC5415
<= http://too= ls.ietf.org/html/rfc5415> ]
=A0of the WTP because the CAPWAP message received from the WTP contains
= =A0its serial number and the AC uses this serial number to find the
=A0c= orresponding WTP profile.

[Abhijit] A serial number is not guarantee= d to be unique. This needs to
be based on something that is guaranteed to be unique - like the
AP MAC = address. =A0Need corresponding changes in the rest of the doc
where seri= al number is =A0is used like CapwapBaseWtpIdTC etc.

[ Richard ] Sugg= est WG decide to use the AP MAC or serial number.
=A0Although editors think that serial number is ok, editors could do change= s
=A0if most people suggest to use the AP MAC.

=A02) Q2
=A0Ano= ther important function of WTP profile is to trigger the creation
=A0of = WTP Virtual Radio Interfaces on the AC. =A0To implement this
=A0function, a WTP profile MUST include the WTP's model number
=A0[R= FC5415 <http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5415> ], which reflects the
number= of PHY radios on the WTP. =A0In
=A0this way, the creation of a WTP profile triggers the AC to
=A0automat= ically create the same number of WTP Virtual Radio Interfaces
=A0corresp= onding to the WTP's PHY radios without manual intervention.
=A0With = the ifIndexes of WTP Virtual Radio Interfaces, the operator
=A0could configure and manage the WTP's PHY radios through the wireless=
=A0binding MIB modules.

[Abhijit] In CAPWAP, WTP informs the num= ber of radio's and creates the
profile. So, instead of assuming numb= er of radios based on Model number, we
should use that information.
=A0In fact, a model number is not indicativ= e of how many radios are
active. =A0For example, a modular AP could init= ially start with one radio,
and then have another added later - but woul= d be still using the same model
number.

[Richard] The model number indicate how many radios a WTP co= uld have and
=A0it is =A0the maximum number of radios.
When the vendo= rs manufacture the AP equipments, the model number
already decide how ma= ny radios a specific AP could have.
Although WTP would inform the number of radio in use, the number should be<= br>less than the maximum number decided by the model number.
If it is re= quired, the drafts could add some text to handle the case
when radio in = use is less than the maximum radios number told by
the model number.

3) Q3

=A0Section 7.2. =A0Relationship to IF= -MIB Module
=A0Also, as an ifIndex [RFC2863 <http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2863= > ]
=A0is used as a common handler for a
=A0corresponding interfaces in the = CAPWAP-BASE-MIB and specific wireless
=A0technologies MIB modules, the A= C MUST have a mechanism that
=A0preserves the values of the ifIndexes in= the ifTable at AC reboot.

[Abhijit] This seems to be a very stringent requirement to impose.
W= hy do the ifIndexes need to be persistent across AC reboots ?

[ Rich= ard] =A0It was ever discussed during last IETF 74 meeting
and had a conc= lusion at the time: The WG thinks that the mechanism
brought forward by the editors is accepable.
I would like send a the sli= de for the last meeting to Abhijit,
and it explains a mechanism about pe= rsistence of the ifIndex.

Regards
Richard
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WTP Profile. While it's possible to use the (VendorId+SerialNumber), I really suspect that a MAC address is more appropriate and something most vendors will end up using. To your point about the Base MAC Address not being a MUST, RFC 5415 seems ambiguous about it. It says: =20 Board Data Type: The Board Data Type field identifies the data being encoded. The CAPWAP protocol defines the following values, and each of these types identify whether their presence is mandatory or optional: =20 0 - WTP Model Number: The WTP Model Number MUST be included in the WTP Board Data message element. =20 1 - WTP Serial Number: The WTP Serial Number MUST be included in the WTP Board Data message element. =20 2 - Board ID: A hardware identifier, which MAY be included in the WTP Board Data message element. =20 3 - Board Revision: A revision number of the board, which MAY be included in the WTP Board Data message element. =20 4 - Base MAC Address: The WTP's Base MAC address, which MAY be assigned to the primary Ethernet interface. =20 Note that while the RFC specifically sates the other types MUST or MAY be included, it doesn't say so for Base MAC Address. It says the Base Mac Address may be assigned but says nothing about whether it MUST or MAY be included in the Board Data Type. =20 Another option is the Base BSSID. Again although the spec only says it's recommended, I suspect most vendors will have it available. =20 Could we add text to the effect that one can use either the (VendorId+SerialNumber) as you suggested or the Base MAC Address or Base BSSID if it's available ? =20 2. WTP Virtual Interfaces: I still don't see the reason to include the Model number in the WTP Profile. The number of virtual interfaces depends on the number of active radios. The WTP specifically includes this information in the WTP Descriptor: 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Max Radios | Radios in use | Num Encrypt |Encryp Sub-Elmt| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Encryption Sub-Element | Descriptor Sub-Element... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ =20 So, there is no need for the Model number here. =20 3. Relationship to IF-MIB. I went through the slides you sent. I see that IF there is a desire to have a common handler, having the ifIndex persist across reboots may be required. But why would we want to impose this requirement on everyone by making it a MUST. It's fine to make it a MAY. Not everyone may want to have a common handler. It's not clear why this is a hard requirement. =20 =20 Thanks, Abhijit =20 =20 From: Richard [mailto:rishyang@gmail.com]=20 Sent: 2009-06-22 19:10 To: capwap@frascone.com; Abhijit Choudhury (achoudhu) Cc: Yong Zhang Subject: The issue of WTP Id =20 Hi, Abhijit: =20 I also discussed the issue 1 (The issue of WTP Id) raised by you with my co-editor Yong. Please check the following opinion: =20 If we use the Base MAC Address in 4.6.40 WTP Board Data, this 4 - Base MAC Address is not a MUST HAVE Board Data Sub-Element. If we use the base Bssid in 6.23. IEEE 802.11 WTP Radio Configuration, the capwap protocol allow this to be changed by AC. ( 5.8 Configuration Status Response Message and 5.9. Configuration Update Request Message can have 6.23. IEEE 802.11 WTP Radio Configuration). we think here we should use something not changeable, right? Could we use the Vendor Identifier + serial number? =20 Regards Richard 2009/6/22 Send Capwap mailing list submissions to capwap@frascone.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to capwap-request@frascone.com You can reach the person managing the list at capwap-owner@frascone.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Capwap digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Thanks Abhijit's comment, please check my comments inline (Richard) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:56:00 +0800 From: Richard Subject: [Capwap] Thanks Abhijit's comment, please check my comments inline To: capwap@frascone.com Message-ID: <8556013e0906211756r2c284779yc286472aff18fb42@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Hi, Abhijit: Thanks you. I am a editor of MIB draft. Please check my comments inline. (identified by [Richard]. 1) Q1 Section 5.7. WTP Profile In a centralized WLAN architecture, a WTP profile is used to make configurations such as static IP address for a WTP before and after it connects to the AC. It MUST contain the serial number [RFC5415 ] of the WTP because the CAPWAP message received from the WTP contains its serial number and the AC uses this serial number to find the corresponding WTP profile. [Abhijit] A serial number is not guaranteed to be unique. This needs to be based on something that is guaranteed to be unique - like the AP MAC address. Need corresponding changes in the rest of the doc where serial number is is used like CapwapBaseWtpIdTC etc. [ Richard ] Suggest WG decide to use the AP MAC or serial number. Although editors think that serial number is ok, editors could do changes if most people suggest to use the AP MAC. 2) Q2 Another important function of WTP profile is to trigger the creation of WTP Virtual Radio Interfaces on the AC. To implement this function, a WTP profile MUST include the WTP's model number [RFC5415 ], which reflects the number of PHY radios on the WTP. In this way, the creation of a WTP profile triggers the AC to automatically create the same number of WTP Virtual Radio Interfaces corresponding to the WTP's PHY radios without manual intervention. With the ifIndexes of WTP Virtual Radio Interfaces, the operator could configure and manage the WTP's PHY radios through the wireless binding MIB modules. [Abhijit] In CAPWAP, WTP informs the number of radio's and creates the profile. So, instead of assuming number of radios based on Model number, we should use that information. In fact, a model number is not indicative of how many radios are active. For example, a modular AP could initially start with one radio, and then have another added later - but would be still using the same model number. [Richard] The model number indicate how many radios a WTP could have and it is the maximum number of radios. When the vendors manufacture the AP equipments, the model number already decide how many radios a specific AP could have. Although WTP would inform the number of radio in use, the number should be less than the maximum number decided by the model number. If it is required, the drafts could add some text to handle the case when radio in use is less than the maximum radios number told by the model number. 3) Q3 Section 7.2. Relationship to IF-MIB Module Also, as an ifIndex [RFC2863 ] is used as a common handler for a corresponding interfaces in the CAPWAP-BASE-MIB and specific wireless technologies MIB modules, the AC MUST have a mechanism that preserves the values of the ifIndexes in the ifTable at AC reboot. [Abhijit] This seems to be a very stringent requirement to impose. Why do the ifIndexes need to be persistent across AC reboots ? [ Richard] It was ever discussed during last IETF 74 meeting and had a conclusion at the time: The WG thinks that the mechanism brought forward by the editors is accepable. I would like send a the slide for the last meeting to Abhijit, and it explains a mechanism about persistence of the ifIndex. Regards Richard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hi Richard,

 

Thanks for your response.

 

Here’re my thoughts on this three = topics:

 

1.  WTP = Profile.  While it’s possible to use the (VendorId+SerialNumber), I really = suspect that a MAC address is more appropriate and something most vendors will = end up using. To your point about the Base MAC Address not being a MUST, RFC = 5415 seems ambiguous about it. It says:

 

      =       Board Data Type:   The Board Data Type field identifies the = data

      =         being encoded.  The CAPWAP protocol defines the = following

      =          values, and each of these types identify whether their = presence

       =        is mandatory or optional:

 

     =         0 -   WTP Model Number: The WTP Model Number MUST be included = in

         &nbs= p;        the WTP Board Data message = element.

 

      =       1 -   WTP Serial Number: The WTP Serial Number MUST be included = in

         &nbs= p;        the WTP Board Data message = element.

 

      =       2 -   Board ID: A hardware identifier, which MAY be included = in

         &nbs= p;        the WTP Board Data message = element.

 

      =       3 -   Board Revision: A revision number of the board, which MAY = be

         &nbs= p;        included in the WTP Board Data message = element.

 

      =       4 -   Base MAC Address: The WTP's Base MAC address, which MAY = be

         &nbs= p;        assigned to the primary Ethernet = interface.

 

Note that while the RFC = specifically sates the other types MUST or MAY be included, it doesn’t say so = for Base MAC Address.  It says the Base Mac Address may be assigned but says nothing about whether it MUST or MAY be included in the Board Data = Type.

 

Another option is the Base = BSSID. Again although the spec only says it’s recommended, I suspect most vendors will have it available.

 

Could we add text to the effect = that one can use either the (VendorId+SerialNumber) as you suggested or the Base MAC = Address or Base BSSID if it’s available ?

 

2.  WTP = Virtual Interfaces:  I still don’t see the reason to include the = Model number in the WTP Profile. The number of virtual interfaces depends on = the number of active radios. The WTP specifically includes this information = in the WTP Descriptor:

      = 0            =        1            =        2            =        3

      0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 = 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1

     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

     |   Max Radios  | = Radios in use |  Num Encrypt  |Encryp Sub-Elmt|

     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

     |     = Encryption Sub-Element    |    Descriptor = Sub-Element...

     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

 

      So, there is no need for = the Model number here.

 

3.  Relationship to IF-MIB.  I went through the slides you sent. I see that IF there = is a desire to have a common handler, having the ifIndex persist across reboots may = be required. But why would we want to impose this requirement on everyone = by making it a MUST.  It’s fine to make it a MAY.  Not = everyone may want to have a common handler.  It’s not clear why this = is a hard requirement.

 

 

Thanks,

Abhijit

 

 

From:= Richard [mailto:rishyang@gmail.com]
Sent: 2009-06-22 19:10
To: capwap@frascone.com; Abhijit Choudhury (achoudhu)
Cc: Yong Zhang
Subject: The issue of WTP Id

 

Hi, Abhijit:

 

I also discussed the issue 1 (The issue of WTP Id) = raised by you with my co-editor Yong.

Please check the following opinion:

 

If we use the Base MAC Address in 4.6.40 WTP Board = Data, this 4 - Base MAC Address is not a MUST HAVE Board Data = Sub-Element.

If we use the base Bssid in 6.23. IEEE 802.11 WTP = Radio Configuration, the capwap protocol allow this to be changed by AC. ( 5.8 Configuration Status Response Message and 5.9. Configuration Update = Request Message can have 6.23. IEEE 802.11 WTP Radio Configuration). we think = here we should use something not changeable, right?

Could we use the Vendor Identifier + serial = number?

 

Regards

Richard

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Hi,  Abhijit:

Thanks you. I am a editor of MIB draft. Please check my comments = inline.
(identified by [Richard].

1) Q1
 Section 5.7.  WTP Profile
 In a centralized WLAN architecture, a WTP profile is used to = make
 configurations such as static IP address for a WTP before and = after
 it connects to the AC.  It MUST contain the serial number = [RFC5415
<http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5415> ]
 of the WTP because the CAPWAP message received from the WTP = contains
 its serial number and the AC uses this serial number to find = the
 corresponding WTP profile.

[Abhijit] A serial number is not guaranteed to be unique. This needs = to
be based on something that is guaranteed to be unique - like the
AP MAC address.  Need corresponding changes in the rest of the = doc
where serial number is  is used like CapwapBaseWtpIdTC etc.

[ Richard ] Suggest WG decide to use the AP MAC or serial number.
 Although editors think that serial number is ok, editors could do = changes
 if most people suggest to use the AP MAC.

 2) Q2
 Another important function of WTP profile is to trigger the = creation
 of WTP Virtual Radio Interfaces on the AC.  To implement = this
 function, a WTP profile MUST include the WTP's model number
 [RFC5415 <http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5415> ], which reflects the
number of PHY radios on the WTP.  In
 this way, the creation of a WTP profile triggers the AC to
 automatically create the same number of WTP Virtual Radio = Interfaces
 corresponding to the WTP's PHY radios without manual = intervention.
 With the ifIndexes of WTP Virtual Radio Interfaces, the = operator
 could configure and manage the WTP's PHY radios through the = wireless
 binding MIB modules.

[Abhijit] In CAPWAP, WTP informs the number of radio's and creates = the
profile. So, instead of assuming number of radios based on Model number, = we
should use that information.
 In fact, a model number is not indicative of how many radios = are
active.  For example, a modular AP could initially start with one = radio,
and then have another added later - but would be still using the same = model
number.

[Richard] The model number indicate how many radios a WTP could have = and
 it is  the maximum number of radios.
When the vendors manufacture the AP equipments, the model number
already decide how many radios a specific AP could have.
Although WTP would inform the number of radio in use, the number should = be
less than the maximum number decided by the model number.
If it is required, the drafts could add some text to handle the case
when radio in use is less than the maximum radios number told by
the model number.

3) Q3

 Section 7.2.  Relationship to IF-MIB Module
 Also, as an ifIndex [RFC2863 <http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2863> ]
 is used as a common handler for a
 corresponding interfaces in the CAPWAP-BASE-MIB and specific = wireless
 technologies MIB modules, the AC MUST have a mechanism that
 preserves the values of the ifIndexes in the ifTable at AC = reboot.

[Abhijit] This seems to be a very stringent requirement to impose.
Why do the ifIndexes need to be persistent across AC reboots ?

[ Richard]  It was ever discussed during last IETF 74 meeting
and had a conclusion at the time: The WG thinks that the mechanism
brought forward by the editors is accepable.
I would like send a the slide for the last meeting to Abhijit,
and it explains a mechanism about persistence of the ifIndex.

Regards
Richard
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Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:39:21 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000901c9f549$8278c3a0$7f449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] The discussion of WTP Id issues and so on thread-index: Acn1IX3LPSqtzgATRIKa6zhcf+9pNgAH2S8gAAUR5eA= References: <000901c9f549$8278c3a0$7f449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "young" , Subject: Re: [Capwap] The discussion of WTP Id issues and so on X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com > -----Original Message----- > From: young [mailto:young@h3c.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:01 AM > To: capwap@frascone.com > 3. Relationship to IF-MIB. > [Abhijit] I went through the slides you sent. I see that IF > there is a desire to have a common handler, having the > ifIndex persist across reboots may be required. But why would > we want to impose this requirement on everyone by making it a > MUST. It's fine to make it a MAY. Not everyone may want to > have a common handler. It's not clear why this is a hard requirement. > > [Richard] The configuration function is important to CAPWAP > MIB drafts (including IEEE MIB). For the configuration > management, interfaces (ifIndex) is quite important objects > to configure. > If we use MAY, although some MIB object still work well, > while we lost an important function: the configuration > management, especially to the interfaces. > Another thing, to reuse the 802.11, 802.16 such MIB standards > is a highlight of the CAPWAP MIB, for it, we have to use the > ifIndex as a common handler. > In summary, I am Ok with MAY, while I worry about we would > lost an important > function: the configuration management, especially to the interfaces. > If it is ok to WG, I am OK with MAY :) > > Thanks, > > Richard > > MAY does not make too much sense. Using ifIndex as a the common handler (and hence requiring it to be persistent across reboots) is one solution to the requirement of correlating between the ifTable and the specific interfaces that may be configured and monitored using other MIB tables or even technology specific modules. If the management station cannot rely on this common handler it has no way of making sure it configures the right interface, or retrieves information from the right interface. If the Working Group decides to drop the requirement of pointing from the CAPWAP MIB to configuration operations or to 802.11 MIB information, there is no need to keep the common handler persistent. It looks to me however that the handler if supported MUST be persistent. Dan (speaking as contributor and MIB advisor) _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Wed Jun 24 22:59:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CEEE3A690D for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:59:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.136, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5fY2qu4QZmfm for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:59:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92ECF28C142 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79206E182B7 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FF0AE240CA for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:59:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D4A3648001 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:59:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8307334AC023 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:59:09 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (ietfdbh@comcast.net whitelisted) Received: from QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.36]) by QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 85zA1c0060mv7h0595zAKQ; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 05:59:10 +0000 Received: from Harrington73653 ([24.147.240.21]) by OMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 85z91c0010UQ6dC3X5z9UJ; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 05:59:10 +0000 From: "David Harrington" To: "'young'" , References: <000901c9f549$8278c3a0$7f449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:59:08 -0400 Message-ID: <003b01c9f55a$0e13f320$0600a8c0@china.huawei.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-reply-to: <000901c9f549$8278c3a0$7f449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> Thread-Index: Acn1IX3LPSqtzgATRIKa6zhcf+9pNgAH2S8gAAU6wAA= Subject: Re: [Capwap] The discussion of WTP Id issues and so on X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Hi, On issue#3, the WG should make a decision, so an NMS can know definitively what to expect. Either the ifIIndex MUST be persistent, OR an alternative aproach MUST be persistent, OR an NMS MUST NOT expect the interface identification to be persistent. An NMS is likely to maintain a database of information that is keyed based on the ifindex. Many NMSes provide value-add by monitoring the behavior of a monitored component over time. For example, if the rate of errors begins to increase over time, an NMS application can predict that a problem is likely to occur in the near future, and warn an operator. If the data sets maintained by an NMS cannot be associated with the same interface after a reboot, then if a reboot is detected, the NMS either operates with data that might be assigned to the wrong interface, or, to be safe, it must throw away any historical data related to the interface, and the system loses its predictive ability. If the NMS expects ifindex to be persistent, and it is not, then the NMS could associate the wrong set of data with the ifIndex, and this could cause lots of problems, because the NMS might alert operators with "false posiitve" reports of configuration changes which would totally waste an operator's time, and might mislead the operator or the NMS application to respond in ways that could cause misconfiguration problems, destabilizing the network. If the ifIndex is allowed to change during a reboot, then the NMS should have a way to determine which set of data should be associated with which ifIndex after a reboot. The ifAlias object was developed expicitly to help resolve this non-determinism problem, because requiring a persistent ifIndex can be difficult in some devices. Unfortunately, ifAlias is not a reliable approach since it must be set by the manager, and it MAY be not set, But it is the best alternative to persistent ifIndexes. >From RFC 2863: the ifAlias name is non-volatile, and thus an interface must retain its assigned ifAlias value across reboots, even if an agent chooses a new ifIndex value for the interface. Making the persistence of interface identification non-deterministic by saying that an agent MAY or MAY NOT keep persistent ifIndexes is a bad, bad, bad idea!!!! David Harrington MIB Doctor directorate ietfdbh@comcast.net > -----Original Message----- > From: young [mailto:young@h3c.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:01 AM > To: capwap@frascone.com > Subject: [Capwap] The discussion of WTP Id issues and so on > > > Hi$B!$(BAbhijit$B!'(B > > Thanks. > Check my comments inline which is identified by [Richard]. > To Dan: Kindly give your opinion to the discussion of question 3, as > You ever raised a similar issue. > > 1. WTP Id issues > [Abhijit] WTP Profile. While it's possible to use the > (VendorId+SerialNumber), I really suspect that a MAC address is more > appropriate and something most vendors will end up using. To > your point > about the Base MAC Address not being a MUST, RFC 5415 seems ambiguous > about it. > Note that while the RFC specifically sates the other types MUST or MAY > be included, it doesn't say so for Base MAC Address. It says the Base > Mac Address may be assigned but says nothing about whether it MUST or > MAY be included in the Board Data Type. > Another option is the Base BSSID. Again although the spec > only says it's > recommended, I suspect most vendors will have it available. > Could we add text to the effect that one can use either the > (VendorId+SerialNumber) as you suggested or the Base MAC > Address or Base > BSSID if it's available? > > [Richard] As we could not offer two options (BAC Mac or > (VendorId+SerialNumber)) > to identify a WTP when we design the MIB, we have to choose > one way between > these two. > As Base MAC Address is not being a MUST, I suggest we use > VendorId+SerialNumber. > How about this way? > > 2. Model number issue > [Abhijit] WTP Virtual Interfaces: I still don't see the > reason to include > the > Model number in the WTP Profile. The number of virtual interfaces > depends on the number of active radios. The WTP specifically includes > this information in the WTP Descriptor: > So, there is no need for the Model number here. > > [Richard] To manage the WTPs, the basic operation process is: > Operator has > to prepare the configuration before WTPs connect to AC. The > configuration of > interface (radio) is an important step. Operator need know > how many radios a > WTP has. > At the time (Before WTP contact with AC), AC could not know > any interface > info which are in the WTP Descriptor (here is key point). > While the module > number could tell that the operator (AC system) how many > radios a WTP could > have, and it could > trigger the system to automatically create WTP virtual Radio > interfaces > before WTP contact with AC. So it could let the operator have > chances to > configure the "Virtual" radios through its ifIndex. > This is the reason that the Model number is need here. > Otherwise, there is > no way to let the operator prepare the configuration of radio > interface > before > WTP contact with AC. > Suggest you go through the section 8 (example) in the draft. > > 3. Relationship to IF-MIB. > [Abhijit] I went through the slides you sent. I see > that IF there is a desire to have a common handler, having the ifIndex > persist across reboots may be required. But why would we want > to impose > this requirement on everyone by making it a MUST. It's fine > to make it > a MAY. Not everyone may want to have a common handler. It's > not clear > why this is a hard requirement. > > [Richard] The configuration function is important to CAPWAP MIB drafts > (including > IEEE MIB). For the configuration management, interfaces > (ifIndex) is quite > important objects to configure. > If we use MAY, although some MIB object still work well, > while we lost an > important function: the configuration management, especially to the > interfaces. > Another thing, to reuse the 802.11, 802.16 such MIB standards > is a highlight > of the CAPWAP MIB, for it, we have to use the ifIndex as a > common handler. > In summary, I am Ok with MAY, while I worry about we would > lost an important > function: the configuration management, especially to the interfaces. > If it is ok to WG, I am OK with MAY :) > > Thanks, > > Richard > > > > From: Richard [mailto:rishyang@gmail.com] > Sent: 2009-06-22 19:10 > To: capwap@frascone.com; Abhijit Choudhury (achoudhu) > Cc: Yong Zhang > Subject: The issue of WTP Id > > > > Hi, Abhijit: > > > > I also discussed the issue 1 (The issue of WTP Id) raised by > you with my > co-editor Yong. > > Please check the following opinion: > > > > If we use the Base MAC Address in 4.6.40 WTP Board Data, this 4 - Base > MAC Address is not a MUST HAVE Board Data Sub-Element. > > If we use the base Bssid in 6.23. IEEE 802.11 WTP Radio Configuration, > the capwap protocol allow this to be changed by AC. ( 5.8 > Configuration > Status Response Message and 5.9. Configuration Update Request Message > can have 6.23. IEEE 802.11 WTP Radio Configuration). we think here we > should use something not changeable, right? > > Could we use the Vendor Identifier + serial number? > > > > Regards > > Richard > > 2009/6/22 > > Send Capwap mailing list submissions to > capwap@frascone.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > capwap-request@frascone.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > capwap-owner@frascone.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Capwap digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Thanks Abhijit's comment, please check my comments inline > (Richard) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:56:00 +0800 > From: Richard > Subject: [Capwap] Thanks Abhijit's comment, please check my comments > inline > To: capwap@frascone.com > Message-ID: > <8556013e0906211756r2c284779yc286472aff18fb42@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi, Abhijit: > > Thanks you. I am a editor of MIB draft. Please check my > comments inline. > (identified by [Richard]. > > 1) Q1 > Section 5.7. WTP Profile > In a centralized WLAN architecture, a WTP profile is used to make > configurations such as static IP address for a WTP before and after > it connects to the AC. It MUST contain the serial number [RFC5415 > ] > of the WTP because the CAPWAP message received from the WTP contains > its serial number and the AC uses this serial number to find the > corresponding WTP profile. > > [Abhijit] A serial number is not guaranteed to be unique. > This needs to > be based on something that is guaranteed to be unique - like the > AP MAC address. Need corresponding changes in the rest of the doc > where serial number is is used like CapwapBaseWtpIdTC etc. > > [ Richard ] Suggest WG decide to use the AP MAC or serial number. > Although editors think that serial number is ok, editors could do > changes > if most people suggest to use the AP MAC. > > 2) Q2 > Another important function of WTP profile is to trigger the creation > of WTP Virtual Radio Interfaces on the AC. To implement this > function, a WTP profile MUST include the WTP's model number > [RFC5415 ], which reflects the > number of PHY radios on the WTP. In > this way, the creation of a WTP profile triggers the AC to > automatically create the same number of WTP Virtual Radio Interfaces > corresponding to the WTP's PHY radios without manual intervention. > With the ifIndexes of WTP Virtual Radio Interfaces, the operator > could configure and manage the WTP's PHY radios through the wireless > binding MIB modules. > > [Abhijit] In CAPWAP, WTP informs the number of radio's and creates the > profile. So, instead of assuming number of radios based on > Model number, > we > should use that information. > In fact, a model number is not indicative of how many radios are > active. For example, a modular AP could initially start with > one radio, > and then have another added later - but would be still using the same > model > number. > > [Richard] The model number indicate how many radios a WTP > could have and > it is the maximum number of radios. > When the vendors manufacture the AP equipments, the model number > already decide how many radios a specific AP could have. > Although WTP would inform the number of radio in use, the > number should > be > less than the maximum number decided by the model number. > If it is required, the drafts could add some text to handle the case > when radio in use is less than the maximum radios number told by > the model number. > > 3) Q3 > > Section 7.2. Relationship to IF-MIB Module > Also, as an ifIndex [RFC2863 ] > is used as a common handler for a > corresponding interfaces in the CAPWAP-BASE-MIB and specific wireless > technologies MIB modules, the AC MUST have a mechanism that > preserves the values of the ifIndexes in the ifTable at AC reboot. > > [Abhijit] This seems to be a very stringent requirement to impose. > Why do the ifIndexes need to be persistent across AC reboots ? > > [ Richard] It was ever discussed during last IETF 74 meeting > and had a conclusion at the time: The WG thinks that the mechanism > brought forward by the editors is accepable. > I would like send a the slide for the last meeting to Abhijit, > and it explains a mechanism about persistence of the ifIndex. > > Regards > Richard > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap/attachments/2009062 > 2/18283a41 > /attachment.htm > > ------------------------------ > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap > > End of Capwap Digest, Vol 43, Issue 4 > ************************************* > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap/attachments/2009062 > 4/e389f29d/att > achment.htm > > ------------------------------ > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap > > End of Capwap Digest, Vol 43, Issue 6 > ************************************* > > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap > _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Wed Jun 24 23:29:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F95F3A69AA for ; 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To Dan: Kindly also let me know your opinion, thanks. 1. WTP Id issues [Abhijit] WTP Profile. While it's possible to use the (VendorId+SerialNumber), I really suspect that a MAC address is more appropriate and something most vendors will end up using. To your point about the Base MAC Address not being a MUST, RFC 5415 seems ambiguous about it. Note that while the RFC specifically sates the other types MUST or MAY be included, it doesn't say so for Base MAC Address. It says the Base Mac Address may be assigned but says nothing about whether it MUST or MAY be included in the Board Data Type. Another option is the Base BSSID. Again although the spec only says it's recommended, I suspect most vendors will have it available. Could we add text to the effect that one can use either the (VendorId+SerialNumber) as you suggested or the Base MAC Address or Base BSSID if it's available? [Richard ] As we could not offer two options (BAC Mac or (VendorId+SerialNumber)) to identify a WTP when we design the MIB, we have to choose one way between these two. For either of them, it has some problem. Suppose we use (VendorId+SerialNumber)), the good thing is that they are must be carried in the capwap message. The problem is that the Index to a WTP becomes two (Used be one). It is not good to the MIB design. Suppose we use the base MAC, the good thing is that keep the index to a WTP simple. The problem is that RFC5415 does not clearly say whether the field is MUST or MAY. From the MIB design perspective, it would be better to use "BASE Mac" and hope it is feasible to add some text in the MIB draft and ask that "base MAC address" field is must have. BTW, what's your opinion to other two issue? 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From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Tue Jun 30 23:56:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE8028C4E9 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:56:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.515 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.515 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.084, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2M5EuXc5RhT2 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC9E28C4E0 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:56:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D70DAE1822D for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA77EE240DF for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:56:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E6D13628002 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:56:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4809F3618001 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:56:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (achoudhu@cisco.com whitelisted) Received: from sj-iport-3.cisco.com (sj-iport-3.cisco.com [171.71.176.72]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:56:51 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,322,1243814400"; d="scan'208";a="174037774" Received: from sj-dkim-4.cisco.com ([171.71.179.196]) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 01 Jul 2009 06:56:50 +0000 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com (sj-core-5.cisco.com [171.71.177.238]) by sj-dkim-4.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n616uoKN012892; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:56:50 -0700 Received: from xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-211.cisco.com [171.70.151.144]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n616uoJq024095; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 06:56:50 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-223.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.124]) by xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:56:50 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:56:49 -0700 Message-ID: <0A7D7D6BC1EEF6489C3D0AE1B6B161950989DA9C@xmb-sjc-223.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: I updated the comment to the issue: WTP Id Issue Thread-Index: Acn2yQa2JrI6e2i4SSSMYG9hQ0u4+wDTiqEg References: From: "Abhijit Choudhury (achoudhu)" To: "Richard" , "Dan Romascanu" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jul 2009 06:56:50.0582 (UTC) FILETIME=[1BE3F360:01C9FA19] Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-4; header.From=achoudhu@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim4002 verified; ); Cc: Yong Zhang Subject: Re: [Capwap] I updated the comment to the issue: WTP Id Issue X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Hi Richard, 1. WTP Id: I agree with your assertion below that the Base MAC Address is the the better choice. If you can find a creative way to add text to support this, that will be great. 2. Model Number issue: I'm okay with using Model number for preconfiguration prior to AP join. However, I still assert that folks will use the WTP Descriptor to figure out the number of active radios after the AP joins. So, it's not clear to me how valuable this feature is. But I'm okay with leaving it as is. 3. Relationship to IF-MIB I still think MUST is too strong a requirement. But if the WG wants to leave it That way, I would go along with it. Can we find out what the WG wants ? Thanks, Abhijit -----Original Message----- From: Richard [mailto:rishyang@gmail.com] Sent: 2009-06-26 18:46 To: Abhijit Choudhury (achoudhu); Dan Romascanu; capwap@frascone.com Cc: Yong Zhang Subject: I updated the comment to the issue: WTP Id Issue Hi, Abhijit: I just discussed the WTP Id issues with my coeditor Yong again by Skype. I updated the comments to the issues, kindly let me know your opinion. To Dan: Kindly also let me know your opinion, thanks. 1. WTP Id issues [Abhijit] WTP Profile. While it's possible to use the (VendorId+SerialNumber), I really suspect that a MAC address is more appropriate and something most vendors will end up using. To your point about the Base MAC Address not being a MUST, RFC 5415 seems ambiguous about it. Note that while the RFC specifically sates the other types MUST or MAY be included, it doesn't say so for Base MAC Address. It says the Base Mac Address may be assigned but says nothing about whether it MUST or MAY be included in the Board Data Type. Another option is the Base BSSID. Again although the spec only says it's recommended, I suspect most vendors will have it available. Could we add text to the effect that one can use either the (VendorId+SerialNumber) as you suggested or the Base MAC Address or Base BSSID if it's available? [Richard ] As we could not offer two options (BAC Mac or (VendorId+SerialNumber)) to identify a WTP when we design the MIB, we have to choose one way between these two. For either of them, it has some problem. Suppose we use (VendorId+SerialNumber)), the good thing is that they are must be carried in the capwap message. The problem is that the Index to a WTP becomes two (Used be one). It is not good to the MIB design. Suppose we use the base MAC, the good thing is that keep the index to a WTP simple. The problem is that RFC5415 does not clearly say whether the field is MUST or MAY. From the MIB design perspective, it would be better to use "BASE Mac" and hope it is feasible to add some text in the MIB draft and ask that "base MAC address" field is must have. BTW, what's your opinion to other two issue? Regards Richard _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap