From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Wed Jul 1 04:44:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C8D28C51E for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 04:44:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.943 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.943 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, CN_BODY_35=0.339, MIME_BASE64_TEXT=1.753, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FaCGK0EI+iID for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 04:44:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 951953A6B96 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 04:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A132CE182FB for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 04:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F34E240DF for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 04:44:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81A9119E32C for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 04:44:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B426F19E30E for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 04:44:00 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (young@h3c.com whitelisted) Received: from huawei-3com.com (unknown [60.191.123.56]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 04:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei-3com.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h3cml02-in.huawei-3com.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <0KM300CXMQ4QRX@h3cml02-in.huawei-3com.com> for capwap@frascone.com; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:48:26 +0800 (CST) Received: from mailsecurity.h3c.com ([172.25.12.124]) by h3cml02-in.huawei-3com.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <0KM30061BQ4QQE@h3cml02-in.huawei-3com.com> for capwap@frascone.com; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:48:26 +0800 (CST) Received: from unknown (HELO s00338) ([10.154.68.114]) by smtp1.h3c.com with ESMTP; Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:51:16 +0800 Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:43:55 +0800 From: young In-reply-to: To: capwap@frascone.com Message-id: <002c01c9fa41$36ac0070$72449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Thread-index: Acn6OKy9INEai2erSCqBdBkcApykVwABq1CQ Subject: [Capwap] How about we keep the question 1 open and close other two? 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I will look into this a bit more before responding, and would also be = interested in feedback from CAPWAP WG members regarding this request. = If you have any comments or concerns about this allocation, please let = me know by COB on Friday, April 10th. Thanks, Margaret Begin forwarded message: > From: "Amanda Baber via RT" > Date: March 30, 2009 4:18:01 PM EDT > Cc: mrw@lilacglade.org > Subject: [IANA #230137] General Request for Assignments (capwap- = > parameters) > Reply-To: iana-prot-param@icann.org > > Hi Margaret, > > As the designated expert for CAPWAP parameters, can you review this > request? 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From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Tue Jul 28 05:51:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2084D3A6F2C for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:51:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.254, BAYES_00=-2.599, CN_BODY_35=0.339, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_33=0.6, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZkagDoXLN9VW for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:51:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C91123A6D49 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:51:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39FC2E182DB for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:51:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB6BE24A96 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87DCF19E809 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:51:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A64D019E7F5 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:51:17 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dstanley1389@gmail.com whitelisted) Received: from mail-qy0-f185.google.com (mail-qy0-f185.google.com [209.85.221.185]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qyk15 with SMTP id 15so4377058qyk.16 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:51:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.81.20 with SMTP id v20mr4375785vck.117.1248785474507; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:51:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <000701ca03a8$9efc14b0$80449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> <0A7D7D6BC1EEF6489C3D0AE1B6B1619509AE5B79@xmb-sjc-223.amer.cisco.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:51:14 -0700 Message-ID: <5bfe7a820907280551r387bd742k46f25091bcd3f46b@mail.gmail.com> From: Dorothy Stanley To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" Cc: young , capwap@frascone.com, Yong Zhang Subject: Re: [Capwap] Please give feedback to the text for queestion 1, Thanks you X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1969403901==" Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com --===============1969403901== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6470fac9bd38c046fc386dc --0016e6470fac9bd38c046fc386dc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All, The Base MAC address is not indicated as either mandatory or optional. The current text in 5415 says 4 - Base MAC Address: The WTP's Base MAC address, which MAY be assigned to the primary Ethernet interface. When it should say either 4 - Base MAC Address: The WTP's Base MAC address *MUST be included = in* *the WTP Board Data message element* and MAY be assigned to the primary Ethernet interface. Or 4 - Base MAC Address: The WTP's Base MAC address *MAY be included i= n* *the WTP Board Data message element* and MAY be assigned to the primary Ethernet interface. The omission of indicating "MAY or MUST be included" is an error in the bas= e spec, and should be noted as such. Each of the other Board Data Types indicates either a MUST or MAY for inclusion, and the prior text states "...and each of these types identify whether their presence is mandatory or optional". My initial inclination is to go ahead and use the WTP Base Mac Address as the WTP Index in the MIB,and add a note to the MIB document with a reference to 5415 section 4.6.40, and the known errata item. The missing specification in 5415 can be carried forward as an errata item, wit= h agreement that the fix is "MUST be included". Thanks, Dorothy 2009/7/21 Romascanu, Dan (Dan) > We cannot mandate something that is optional in the CAPWAP specification = to > be mandatory for implementation for MIB support reasons. I personally do = not > remember such precedents, if you know them please point us to them to see > how they solved and described their solutions. > > Regards, > > Dan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Abhijit Choudhury (achoudhu) [mailto:achoudhu@cisco.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:49 AM > > To: young; capwap@frascone.com; Romascanu, Dan (Dan) > > Cc: Yong Zhang > > Subject: RE: Please give feedback to the text for queestion > > 1, Thanks you > > > > Currently, as per RFC5415, the only MUST elements being sent > > by the WTP are VendorId and Serial Number. > > I really think it makes sense to use the Base MAC Address for > > the WTP_Id. But the Base MAC Address is not a MUST item in > > the base spec - although the wording is a little ambiguous. > > > > The question is: is there any other precedence where > > something that's potentially optional in the base spec, is > > deemed mandatory to support the MIB ? I seem to recall > > something similar in the DHCP spec... > > > > Thanks, > > Abhijit > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: young [mailto:young@h3c.com] > > Sent: 2009-07-13 03:57 > > To: 'young'; capwap@frascone.com; dromasca@avaya.com; Abhijit > > Choudhury (achoudhu) > > Cc: 'Yong Zhang' > > Subject: Please give feedback to the text for queestion 1, Thanks you > > > > > > > > =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: young [mailto:young@h3c.com] > > =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2009=C4=EA7=D4=C27=C8=D5 10:02 > > =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: 'capwap@frascone.com'; dromasca@avaya.com; 'achoudh= u@cisco.com' > > =B3=AD=CB=CD: 'Yong Zhang' > > =D6=F7=CC=E2: Could we add such text for question 1 > > > > Hi, > > > > To close question 1, could we add some text as followed in the > > CAPWAP-BASE-MIB draft: > > The RFC5415 does not definitely specify whether the Base MAC > > Address is MUST > > be included in the WTP Board Data message element. In the > > CAPWAP-BASE-MIB, > > as it > > uses the Base MAC Address to uniquely identify each WTP, it > > require that > > the implementation of the CAPWAP protocol MUST carry the BASE > > MAC address > > in the WTP Board Data message element. > > > > Regards > > Richard > > > > -----=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE----- > > =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: capwap-request@frascone.com [mailto:capwap-request@= frascone.com] > > =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2009=C4=EA7=D4=C22=C8=D5 18:17 > > =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: capwap@frascone.com > > =D6=F7=CC=E2: Capwap Digest, Vol 44, Issue 2 > > > > Send Capwap mailing list submissions to > > capwap@frascone.com > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > capwap-request@frascone.com > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > capwap-owner@frascone.com > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Capwap digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. How about we keep the question 1 open and close other > > two? (young) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:43:55 +0800 > > From: young > > Subject: [Capwap] How about we keep the question 1 open and close > > other two? > > To: capwap@frascone.com > > Message-ID: <002c01c9fa41$36ac0070$72449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dgb2312 > > > > Hi, Abhijit: > > > > Thanks for update. > > How about we keep the question 1 open and close other two? > > > > 1. WTP Id: > > [ Abhijit ] I agree with your assertion below that the Base > > MAC Address is > > the better choice. If you can find a creative way to add text > > to support this, that will be great. > > [ Richard ] Keep it open. > > I and Yong would put text in the mailing list to go on the discussion. > > > > 2. Model Number issue: > > [ Abhijit ] I'm okay with using Model number for > > preconfiguration prior > > to > > AP join. However, I still assert that folks will use the WTP > > Descriptor > > to figure out the number of active radios after the AP joins. > > So, it's not > > clear to me how valuable this feature is. But I'm okay with > > leaving it as > > is. > > [ Richard ]so we close this one. > > I felt the active number of radios in the WTP Descriptor > > is not very useful, it may help AC to judge which WTP's join > > request should > > be > > Accepted in the high priority. For example, the WTP with more > > active radio > > is high priority. From the radio configuration perspective, > > the change > > state event request is more useful, it could help AC to judge > > which radio is > > operable, > > and should download the radio configuration to it. > > > > 3. Relationship to IF-MIB > > I still think MUST is too strong a requirement. But if > > the WG wants > > to leave it That way, I would go along with it. Can we find > > out what the WG > > wants ? > > [ Richard ]So we close this one. > > I suggest you check Dan and David's comments to this question. > > > > Regards > > Richard > > > > > > -----????----- > > ???: capwap-request@frascone.com [mailto:capwap-request@frascone.com] > > ????: 2009?7?1? 18:17 > > ???: capwap@frascone.com > > ??: Capwap Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1 > > > > Send Capwap mailing list submissions to > > capwap@frascone.com > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > capwap-request@frascone.com > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > capwap-owner@frascone.com > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Capwap digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: I updated the comment to the issue: WTP Id Issue > > (Abhijit Choudhury (achoudhu)) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:56:49 -0700 > > From: "Abhijit Choudhury (achoudhu)" > > Subject: Re: [Capwap] I updated the comment to the issue: WTP Id Issue > > To: "Richard" , "Dan Romascanu" > > , > > Cc: Yong Zhang > > Message-ID: > > > > <0A7D7D6BC1EEF6489C3D0AE1B6B161950989DA9C@xmb-sjc-223.amer.cisco.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" > > > > Hi Richard, > > > > 1. WTP Id: > > I agree with your assertion below that the Base MAC Address is > > the > > the better choice. If you can find a creative way to add text > > to support > > this, that will be great. > > > > 2. Model Number issue: > > I'm okay with using Model number for preconfiguration prior to > > AP join. > > However, I still assert that folks will use the WTP Descriptor > > to figure > > out the number of active radios after the AP joins. So, it's not > > clear to > > me how valuable this feature is. But I'm okay with leaving it as > > is. > > > > 3. Relationship to IF-MIB > > I still think MUST is too strong a requirement. But if > > the WG wants > > to leave it > > That way, I would go along with it. Can we find out what the WG > > wants ? > > > > Thanks, > > Abhijit > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Richard [mailto:rishyang@gmail.com] > > Sent: 2009-06-26 18:46 > > To: Abhijit Choudhury (achoudhu); Dan Romascanu; capwap@frascone.com > > Cc: Yong Zhang > > Subject: I updated the comment to the issue: WTP Id Issue > > > > Hi, Abhijit: > > > > I just discussed the WTP Id issues with my coeditor Yong > > again by Skype. > > I updated the comments to the issues, kindly let me know your opinion. > > > > To Dan: Kindly also let me know your opinion, thanks. > > > > > > 1. WTP Id issues > > [Abhijit] WTP Profile. While it's possible to use the > > (VendorId+SerialNumber), I really suspect that a MAC address is more > > appropriate and something most vendors will end up using. To > > your point > > about the Base MAC Address not being a MUST, RFC 5415 seems ambiguous > > about it. > > Note that while the RFC specifically sates the other types MUST or MAY > > be included, it doesn't say so for Base MAC Address. It says the Base > > Mac Address may be assigned but says nothing about whether it MUST or > > MAY be included in the Board Data Type. > > Another option is the Base BSSID. Again although the spec > > only says it's > > recommended, I suspect most vendors will have it available. > > Could we add text to the effect that one can use either the > > (VendorId+SerialNumber) as you suggested or the Base MAC > > Address or Base > > BSSID if it's available? > > > > [Richard ] As we could not offer two options (BAC Mac or > > (VendorId+SerialNumber)) > > to identify a WTP when we design the MIB, we have to choose one way > > between > > these two. For either of them, it has some problem. > > Suppose we use (VendorId+SerialNumber)), the good thing is that they > > are must be > > carried in the capwap message. The problem is that the Index > > to a WTP > > becomes two > > (Used be one). It is not good to the MIB design. > > Suppose we use the base MAC, the good thing is that keep the > > index to > > a WTP simple. > > The problem is that RFC5415 does not clearly say whether the > > field is > > MUST or MAY. > > > > From the MIB design perspective, it would be better to use > > "BASE Mac" > > and hope it > > is feasible to add some text in the MIB draft and ask that "base MAC > > address" field is must > > have. > > > > BTW, what's your opinion to other two issue? > > > > Regards > > Richard > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > > > Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap > > > > End of Capwap Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1 > > ************************************* > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > > > Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap > > > > End of Capwap Digest, Vol 44, Issue 2 > > ************************************* > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap > --0016e6470fac9bd38c046fc386dc Content-Type: text/html; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

All,

The Base MAC address is not= indicated as either mandatory or optional. The current text in 5415 says

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    &=
nbsp;       assigned to the primary Ethernet =
interface.

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      4 -   Base MAC Address: The WTP&#=
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 =
           the WTP Boa=
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the primary Ethernet interface.
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      4 -   Base M=
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            the =
WTP Board Data message element and MAY be
 &nb=
sp;          assigned to the p=
rimary Ethernet interface.
The omission of indicating "MAY = or MUST be included" is an error in the base spec, and should be noted= as such. Each of the other Board Data Types indicates either a MUST or MAY= for inclusion, and the prior text states "...and each of these types = identify whether
their presence is mandatory or optional".
=

My=20 initial inclination is to go ahead and use the WTP Base Mac Address as the = WTP=20 Index in the MIB,and=20 add a note to the MIB document 
with a=20 reference to  5415 section 4.6.40, and the known errata item. <= /font>The missing=20 specification in 5415 can be carried forward as an errata=20 item, with
agreement that the fix is "MUST be included".

Thanks,

Dorothy


2009/= 7/21 Romascanu, Dan (Dan) <dromasca@avaya.com>
We cannot mandate= something that is optional in the CAPWAP specification to be mandatory for= implementation for MIB support reasons. I personally do not remember such = precedents, if you know them please point us to them to see how they solved= and described their solutions.

Regards,

Dan


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abhijit Choudhury (achoudhu) [mailto:achoudhu@cisco.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:49 AM
> To: young; capwap@frascone.com<= /a>; Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
> Cc: Yong Zhang
> Subject: RE: Please give feedback to the text for queestion
> 1, Thanks you
>
> Currently, as per RFC5415, the only MUST elements being sent
> by the WTP are VendorId and Serial Number.
> I really think it makes sense to use the Base MAC Address for
> the WTP_Id. But the Base MAC Address is not a MUST item in
> the base spec - although the wording is a little ambiguous.
>
> The question is: is there any other precedence where
> something that's potentially optional in the base spec, is
> deemed mandatory to support the MIB ?  I seem to recall
> something similar in the DHCP spec...
>
> Thanks,
> Abhijit
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: young [mailto:young@h3c.com= ]
> Sent: 2009-07-13 03:57
> To: 'young'; capwap@fra= scone.com; dromasca@avaya.com= ; Abhijit
> Choudhury (achoudhu)
> Cc: 'Yong Zhang'
> Subject: Please give feedback to the text for queestion 1, Thanks you<= br> >
>
>
> =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: young [mailto:you= ng@h3c.com]
> =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2009=C4=EA7=D4=C27=C8=D5 10:02
> =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: 'capwap= @frascone.com'; dromasca@avay= a.com; 'achoudhu@cisco.com'
> =B3=AD=CB=CD: 'Yong Zhang'
> =D6=F7=CC=E2: Could we add such text for question 1
>
> Hi,
>
> To close question 1, could we add some text as followed in the
> CAPWAP-BASE-MIB draft:
> The RFC5415 does not definitely specify whether the Base MAC
> Address is MUST
> be included in the WTP Board Data message element. In the
> CAPWAP-BASE-MIB,
> as it
> uses the Base MAC Address to uniquely identify each WTP, it
> require that
> the implementation of the CAPWAP protocol MUST carry the BASE
> MAC address
> in the WTP Board Data message element.
>
> Regards
> Richard
>
> -----=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE-----
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> Subject: [Capwap] How about we keep the question 1 open and close
>       other two?
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> Hi, Abhijit:
>
> Thanks for update.
> How about we keep the question 1 open and close other two?
>
> 1. WTP Id:
> [ Abhijit ] I agree with your assertion below that the Base
> MAC Address is
> the better choice.  If you can find a creative way to add text > to support this, that will be great.
> [ Richard ] Keep it open.
> I and Yong would put text in the mailing list to go on the discussion.=
>
> 2. Model Number issue:
> [ Abhijit ]   I'm okay with using Model number for
> preconfiguration prior
> to
> AP join. However, I still assert that folks will use the WTP
> Descriptor
> to figure out the number of active radios after the AP joins.
> So, it's not
> clear to me how valuable this feature is. But I'm okay with
> leaving it as
> is.
> [ Richard ]so we close this one.
> I felt the active number of radios in the WTP Descriptor
> is not very useful, it may help AC to judge which WTP's join
> request should
> be
> Accepted in the high priority. For example, the WTP with more
> active radio
> is high priority.  From the radio configuration perspective,
> the change
> state event request is more useful, it could help AC to judge
> which radio is
> operable,
> and should download the radio configuration to it.
>
> 3.  Relationship to IF-MIB
>      I still think MUST is too strong a requirement. Bu= t if
> the WG wants
> to leave it That way, I would go along with it.  Can we find
> out what the WG
> wants ?
> [ Richard ]So we close this one.
> I suggest you check Dan and David's comments to this question.
>
> Regards
> Richard
>
>
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> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:56:49 -0700
> From: "Abhijit Choudhury (achoudhu)" <achoudhu@cisco.com>
> Subject: Re: [Capwap] I updated the comment to the issue: WTP Id Issue=
> To: "Richard" <rish= yang@gmail.com>, "Dan Romascanu"
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> Hi Richard,
>
> 1. WTP Id:
>       I agree with your assertion below that the Base M= AC Address is
> the
>       the better choice.  If you can find a creati= ve way to add text
> to support
>       this, that will be great.
>
> 2. Model Number issue:
>       I'm okay with using Model number for preconfi= guration prior to
> AP join.
>       However, I still assert that folks will use the W= TP Descriptor
> to figure
>       out the number of active radios after the AP join= s. So, it's not
> clear to
>       me how valuable this feature is. But I'm okay= with leaving it as
> is.
>
> 3.  Relationship to IF-MIB
>      I still think MUST is too strong a requirement. Bu= t if
> the WG wants
> to leave it
>      That way, I would go along with it.  Can we f= ind out what the WG
> wants ?
>
> Thanks,
> Abhijit
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard [mailto:rishyang@g= mail.com]
> Sent: 2009-06-26 18:46
> To: Abhijit Choudhury (achoudhu); Dan Romascanu; capwap@frascone.com
> Cc: Yong Zhang
> Subject: I updated the comment to the issue: WTP Id Issue
>
> Hi, Abhijit:
>
> I just discussed the WTP Id issues with my coeditor Yong
> again by Skype.
> I updated the comments to the issues, kindly let me know your opinion.=
>
> To Dan: Kindly also let me know your opinion, thanks.
>
>
> 1.  WTP Id issues
> [Abhijit] WTP Profile.  While it's possible to use the
> (VendorId+SerialNumber), I really suspect that a MAC address is more > appropriate and something most vendors will end up using. To
> your point
> about the Base MAC Address not being a MUST, RFC 5415 seems ambiguous<= br> > about it.
> Note that while the RFC specifically sates the other types MUST or MAY=
> be included, it doesn't say so for Base MAC Address.  It says= the Base
> Mac Address may be assigned but says nothing about whether it MUST or<= br> > MAY be included in the Board Data Type.
> Another option is the Base BSSID. Again although the spec
> only says it's
> recommended, I suspect most vendors will have it available.
> Could we add text to the effect that one can use either the
> (VendorId+SerialNumber) as you suggested or the Base MAC
> Address or Base
> BSSID if it's available?
>
> [Richard ] As we could not offer two options (BAC Mac or
> (VendorId+SerialNumber))
> to identify a WTP when we design the MIB, we have to choose one way > between
> these two.  For either of them,  it  has some problem.<= br> > Suppose we use (VendorId+SerialNumber)), the good thing is that they > are must be
> carried in the capwap message. The problem is that the Index
> to a WTP
> becomes two
> (Used be one).  It is not good to the MIB design.
> Suppose we use the base MAC, the good thing is that keep the
> index to
> a WTP simple.
> The problem is that RFC5415 does not clearly say whether the
> field is
> MUST or MAY.
>
>  From the MIB design perspective, it would be better to use
> "BASE Mac"
> and hope it
> is feasible to add some text in the MIB draft and ask that "base = MAC
> address" field is must
> have.
>
> BTW,  what's your opinion to other two issue?
>
> Regards
> Richard
>
>
>
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--0016e6470fac9bd38c046fc386dc-- --===============1969403901== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap --===============1969403901==-- From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Tue Jul 28 06:00:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E878A3A6F4E for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:00:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.654 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.654 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.445, BAYES_00=-2.599, CN_BODY_35=0.339, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_33=0.6, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8by4OtvNEinG for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:00:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 685463A68E9 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:00:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35243E182DB for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:00:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38303E24A96 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC0F234AC029 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:00:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110A734AC011 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:00:03 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (dromasca@avaya.com whitelisted) Received: from nj300815-nj-outbound.net.avaya.com (nj300815-nj-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.12.100]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:00:02 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,283,1246852800"; d="scan'208,217";a="168450611" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by nj300815-nj-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 28 Jul 2009 09:00:00 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.12]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 28 Jul 2009 08:59:59 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:59:40 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5bfe7a820907280551r387bd742k46f25091bcd3f46b@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Please give feedback to the text for queestion 1, Thanks you thread-index: AcoPgho1KGAWXfdBTTCtTx1BpuEvuAAARHPg References: <000701ca03a8$9efc14b0$80449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> <0A7D7D6BC1EEF6489C3D0AE1B6B1619509AE5B79@xmb-sjc-223.amer.cisco.com> <5bfe7a820907280551r387bd742k46f25091bcd3f46b@mail.gmail.com> From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "Dorothy Stanley" Cc: young , capwap@frascone.com, Yong Zhang Subject: Re: [Capwap] Please give feedback to the text for queestion 1, Thanks you X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0479014153==" Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0479014153== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CA0F83.4548BC20" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA0F83.4548BC20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Are there existing implementations out there? If there are what do they = do?=20 =20 Dan =20 ________________________________ From: Dorothy Stanley [mailto:dstanley1389@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:51 PM To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) Cc: Abhijit Choudhury (achoudhu); young; capwap@frascone.com; Yong = Zhang Subject: Re: [Capwap] Please give feedback to the text for queestion 1, = Thanks you =09 =09 All, The Base MAC address is not indicated as either mandatory or optional. = The current text in 5415 says 4 - Base MAC Address: The WTP's Base MAC address, which MAY be assigned to the primary Ethernet interface. When it should say either 4 - Base MAC Address: The WTP's Base MAC address MUST be = included in the WTP Board Data message element and MAY be assigned to the primary Ethernet interface. Or =09 4 - Base MAC Address: The WTP's Base MAC address MAY be = included in the WTP Board Data message element and MAY be assigned to the primary Ethernet interface. The omission of indicating "MAY or MUST be included" is an error in the = base spec, and should be noted as such. Each of the other Board Data = Types indicates either a MUST or MAY for inclusion, and the prior text = states "...and each of these types identify whether their presence is mandatory or optional". =09 My initial inclination is to go ahead and use the WTP Base Mac Address = as the WTP Index in the MIB,and add a note to the MIB document =20 with a reference to 5415 section 4.6.40, and the known errata item. = The missing specification in 5415 can be carried forward as an errata = item, with agreement that the fix is "MUST be included". Thanks,=20 Dorothy =09 2009/7/21 Romascanu, Dan (Dan) =09 We cannot mandate something that is optional in the CAPWAP = specification to be mandatory for implementation for MIB support = reasons. I personally do not remember such precedents, if you know them = please point us to them to see how they solved and described their = solutions. =09 Regards, =09 Dan =09 > -----Original Message----- > From: Abhijit Choudhury (achoudhu) [mailto:achoudhu@cisco.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:49 AM > To: young; capwap@frascone.com; Romascanu, Dan (Dan) > Cc: Yong Zhang > Subject: RE: Please give feedback to the text for queestion > 1, Thanks you > > Currently, as per RFC5415, the only MUST elements being sent > by the WTP are VendorId and Serial Number. > I really think it makes sense to use the Base MAC Address for > the WTP_Id. But the Base MAC Address is not a MUST item in > the base spec - although the wording is a little ambiguous. > > The question is: is there any other precedence where > something that's potentially optional in the base spec, is > deemed mandatory to support the MIB ? I seem to recall > something similar in the DHCP spec... > > Thanks, > Abhijit > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: young [mailto:young@h3c.com] > Sent: 2009-07-13 03:57 > To: 'young'; capwap@frascone.com; dromasca@avaya.com; Abhijit > Choudhury (achoudhu) > Cc: 'Yong Zhang' > Subject: Please give feedback to the text for queestion 1, Thanks = you > > > > =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: young [mailto:young@h3c.com] > =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2009=C4=EA7=D4=C27=C8=D5 10:02 > =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: 'capwap@frascone.com'; dromasca@avaya.com; = 'achoudhu@cisco.com' > =B3=AD=CB=CD: 'Yong Zhang' > =D6=F7=CC=E2: Could we add such text for question 1 > > Hi, > > To close question 1, could we add some text as followed in the > CAPWAP-BASE-MIB draft: > The RFC5415 does not definitely specify whether the Base MAC > Address is MUST > be included in the WTP Board Data message element. In the > CAPWAP-BASE-MIB, > as it > uses the Base MAC Address to uniquely identify each WTP, it > require that > the implementation of the CAPWAP protocol MUST carry the BASE > MAC address > in the WTP Board Data message element. > > Regards > Richard > > -----=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE----- > =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: capwap-request@frascone.com = [mailto:capwap-request@frascone.com] > =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2009=C4=EA7=D4=C22=C8=D5 18:17 > =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: capwap@frascone.com > =D6=F7=CC=E2: Capwap Digest, Vol 44, Issue 2 > > Send Capwap mailing list submissions to > capwap@frascone.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > capwap-request@frascone.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > capwap-owner@frascone.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Capwap digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. How about we keep the question 1 open and close other > two? (young) > > > = ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:43:55 +0800 > From: young > Subject: [Capwap] How about we keep the question 1 open and close > other two? > To: capwap@frascone.com > Message-ID: <002c01c9fa41$36ac0070$72449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dgb2312 > > Hi, Abhijit: > > Thanks for update. > How about we keep the question 1 open and close other two? > > 1. WTP Id: > [ Abhijit ] I agree with your assertion below that the Base > MAC Address is > the better choice. If you can find a creative way to add text > to support this, that will be great. > [ Richard ] Keep it open. > I and Yong would put text in the mailing list to go on the = discussion. > > 2. Model Number issue: > [ Abhijit ] I'm okay with using Model number for > preconfiguration prior > to > AP join. However, I still assert that folks will use the WTP > Descriptor > to figure out the number of active radios after the AP joins. > So, it's not > clear to me how valuable this feature is. But I'm okay with > leaving it as > is. > [ Richard ]so we close this one. > I felt the active number of radios in the WTP Descriptor > is not very useful, it may help AC to judge which WTP's join > request should > be > Accepted in the high priority. For example, the WTP with more > active radio > is high priority. From the radio configuration perspective, > the change > state event request is more useful, it could help AC to judge > which radio is > operable, > and should download the radio configuration to it. > > 3. Relationship to IF-MIB > I still think MUST is too strong a requirement. But if > the WG wants > to leave it That way, I would go along with it. Can we find > out what the WG > wants ? > [ Richard ]So we close this one. > I suggest you check Dan and David's comments to this question. > > Regards > Richard > > > -----????----- > ???: capwap-request@frascone.com = [mailto:capwap-request@frascone.com] > ????: 2009?7?1? 18:17 > ???: capwap@frascone.com > ??: Capwap Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1 > > Send Capwap mailing list submissions to > capwap@frascone.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > capwap-request@frascone.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > capwap-owner@frascone.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Capwap digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: I updated the comment to the issue: WTP Id Issue > (Abhijit Choudhury (achoudhu)) > > > = ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:56:49 -0700 > From: "Abhijit Choudhury (achoudhu)" > Subject: Re: [Capwap] I updated the comment to the issue: WTP Id = Issue > To: "Richard" , "Dan Romascanu" > , > Cc: Yong Zhang > Message-ID: > > = <0A7D7D6BC1EEF6489C3D0AE1B6B161950989DA9C@xmb-sjc-223.amer.cisco.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" > > Hi Richard, > > 1. WTP Id: > I agree with your assertion below that the Base MAC Address is > the > the better choice. If you can find a creative way to add text > to support > this, that will be great. > > 2. Model Number issue: > I'm okay with using Model number for preconfiguration prior to > AP join. > However, I still assert that folks will use the WTP Descriptor > to figure > out the number of active radios after the AP joins. So, it's = not > clear to > me how valuable this feature is. But I'm okay with leaving it = as > is. > > 3. Relationship to IF-MIB > I still think MUST is too strong a requirement. But if > the WG wants > to leave it > That way, I would go along with it. Can we find out what the = WG > wants ? > > Thanks, > Abhijit > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard [mailto:rishyang@gmail.com] > Sent: 2009-06-26 18:46 > To: Abhijit Choudhury (achoudhu); Dan Romascanu; capwap@frascone.com > Cc: Yong Zhang > Subject: I updated the comment to the issue: WTP Id Issue > > Hi, Abhijit: > > I just discussed the WTP Id issues with my coeditor Yong > again by Skype. > I updated the comments to the issues, kindly let me know your = opinion. > > To Dan: Kindly also let me know your opinion, thanks. > > > 1. WTP Id issues > [Abhijit] WTP Profile. While it's possible to use the > (VendorId+SerialNumber), I really suspect that a MAC address is more > appropriate and something most vendors will end up using. To > your point > about the Base MAC Address not being a MUST, RFC 5415 seems = ambiguous > about it. > Note that while the RFC specifically sates the other types MUST or = MAY > be included, it doesn't say so for Base MAC Address. It says the = Base > Mac Address may be assigned but says nothing about whether it MUST = or > MAY be included in the Board Data Type. > Another option is the Base BSSID. Again although the spec > only says it's > recommended, I suspect most vendors will have it available. > Could we add text to the effect that one can use either the > (VendorId+SerialNumber) as you suggested or the Base MAC > Address or Base > BSSID if it's available? > > [Richard ] As we could not offer two options (BAC Mac or > (VendorId+SerialNumber)) > to identify a WTP when we design the MIB, we have to choose one way > between > these two. For either of them, it has some problem. > Suppose we use (VendorId+SerialNumber)), the good thing is that they > are must be > carried in the capwap message. The problem is that the Index > to a WTP > becomes two > (Used be one). It is not good to the MIB design. > Suppose we use the base MAC, the good thing is that keep the > index to > a WTP simple. > The problem is that RFC5415 does not clearly say whether the > field is > MUST or MAY. > > From the MIB design perspective, it would be better to use > "BASE Mac" > and hope it > is feasible to add some text in the MIB draft and ask that "base MAC > address" field is must > have. > > BTW, what's your opinion to other two issue? > > Regards > Richard > > > > ------------------------------ > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap > > End of Capwap Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1 > ************************************* > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap > > End of Capwap Digest, Vol 44, Issue 2 > ************************************* > > > _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap =09 Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA0F83.4548BC20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Are=20 there existing implementations out there? If there are what do they do?=20
 
Dan
 

From: Dorothy Stanley=20 [mailto:dstanley1389@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, = 2009 3:51=20 PM
To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
Cc: Abhijit Choudhury=20 (achoudhu); young; capwap@frascone.com; Yong Zhang
Subject: = Re:=20 [Capwap] Please give feedback to the text for queestion 1, Thanks=20 you

All,

The Base MAC address is = not=20 indicated as either mandatory or optional. The current text in 5415=20 says

     4 -   Base =
MAC Address: The WTP's Base MAC address, which MAY =
be
            =
assigned to the primary Ethernet interface.

When it should say=20 either

      4 -   =
Base MAC Address: The WTP's Base MAC address MUST be included =
in
          =
  the WTP Board Data message element and MAY =
be
 =
           assigned to =
the primary Ethernet interface.
Or
      4 -   Base MAC Address: =
The WTP's Base MAC address MAY be included =
in
          =
  the WTP Board Data message element and MAY =
be
            =
assigned to the primary Ethernet interface.
The omission of indicating "MAY or MUST be = included"=20 is an error in the base spec, and should be noted as such. Each of the = other=20 Board Data Types indicates either a MUST or MAY for inclusion, and the = prior=20 text states "...and each of these types identify whether
their = presence is=20 mandatory or optional".

My initial inclination = is to go=20 ahead and use the WTP Base Mac Address as the WTP Index in the MIB,and = add a=20 note to the MIB document 
with a reference to  5415 = section=20 4.6.40, and the known errata item. The missing = specification in 5415=20 can be carried forward as an errata item, with
agreement that the = fix is=20 "MUST be included".

Thanks,

Dorothy


2009/7/21 Romascanu, Dan (Dan) <dromasca@avaya.com>
We=20 cannot mandate something that is optional in the CAPWAP = specification to be=20 mandatory for implementation for MIB support reasons. I personally = do not=20 remember such precedents, if you know them please point us to them = to see=20 how they solved and described their = solutions.

Regards,

Dan


> -----Original Message-----
> = From: Abhijit=20 Choudhury (achoudhu) [mailto:achoudhu@cisco.com]
> = Sent:=20 Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:49 AM
> To: young; capwap@frascone.com; = Romascanu, Dan=20 (Dan)
> Cc: Yong Zhang
> Subject: RE: Please give = feedback to=20 the text for queestion
> 1, Thanks you
>
> = Currently, as=20 per RFC5415, the only MUST elements being sent
> by the WTP = are=20 VendorId and Serial Number.
> I really think it makes sense to = use the=20 Base MAC Address for
> the WTP_Id. But the Base MAC Address is = not a=20 MUST item in
> the base spec - although the wording is a = little=20 ambiguous.
>
> The question is: is there any other = precedence=20 where
> something that's potentially optional in the base = spec,=20 is
> deemed mandatory to support the MIB ?  I seem to=20 recall
> something similar in the DHCP spec...
>
> = Thanks,
> Abhijit
>
>
>
> = -----Original=20 Message-----
> From: young [mailto:young@h3c.com]
> Sent: = 2009-07-13=20 03:57
> To: 'young'; capwap@frascone.com; dromasca@avaya.com; = Abhijit
>=20 Choudhury (achoudhu)
> Cc: 'Yong Zhang'
> Subject: = Please give=20 feedback to the text for queestion 1, Thanks=20 you
>
>
>
> =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: young = [mailto:young@h3c.com]
> = =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2009=C4=EA7=D4=C27=C8=D5=20 10:02
> =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: 'capwap@frascone.com'; dromasca@avaya.com; 'achoudhu@cisco.com'
> = =B3=AD=CB=CD: 'Yong=20 Zhang'
> =D6=F7=CC=E2: Could we add such text for question = 1
>
>=20 Hi,
>
> To close question 1, could we add some text as = followed=20 in the
> CAPWAP-BASE-MIB draft:
> The RFC5415 does not=20 definitely specify whether the Base MAC
> Address is = MUST
> be=20 included in the WTP Board Data message element. In the
>=20 CAPWAP-BASE-MIB,
> as it
> uses the Base MAC Address to = uniquely=20 identify each WTP, it
> require that
> the = implementation of the=20 CAPWAP protocol MUST carry the BASE
> MAC address
> in = the WTP=20 Board Data message element.
>
> Regards
>=20 Richard
>
> -----=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE-----
> = =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: capwap-request@frascone.com=20 [mailto:capwap-request@frascone.com]
>=20 =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2009=C4=EA7=D4=C22=C8=D5 18:17
> = =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: capwap@frascone.com
> = =D6=F7=CC=E2: Capwap=20 Digest, Vol 44, Issue 2
>
> Send Capwap mailing list = submissions=20 to
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>
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>=20 When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more = specific
>=20 than "Re: Contents of Capwap digest..."
>
>
> = Today's=20 Topics:
>
>    1. How about we keep the = question 1=20 open and close other
> two? (young)
>
>
>=20 = ---------------------------------------------------------------------->
>=20 Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:43:55 +0800
> = From: young=20 <young@h3c.com>
> = Subject:=20 [Capwap] How about we keep the question 1 open and close
> =  =20     other two?
> To: capwap@frascone.com
>=20 Message-ID: <002c01c9fa41$36ac0070$72449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com>
>=20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dgb2312
>
> Hi,=20 Abhijit:
>
> Thanks for update.
> How about we = keep the=20 question 1 open and close other two?
>
> 1. WTP = Id:
> [=20 Abhijit ] I agree with your assertion below that the Base
> = MAC=20 Address is
> the better choice.  If you can find a = creative way=20 to add text
> to support this, that will be great.
> [ = Richard ]=20 Keep it open.
> I and Yong would put text in the mailing list = to go on=20 the discussion.
>
> 2. Model Number issue:
> [ = Abhijit ]=20   I'm okay with using Model number for
> preconfiguration = prior
> to
> AP join. However, I still assert that folks = will=20 use the WTP
> Descriptor
> to figure out the number of = active=20 radios after the AP joins.
> So, it's not
> clear to me = how=20 valuable this feature is. But I'm okay with
> leaving it = as
>=20 is.
> [ Richard ]so we close this one.
> I felt the = active=20 number of radios in the WTP Descriptor
> is not very useful, = it may=20 help AC to judge which WTP's join
> request should
> = be
>=20 Accepted in the high priority. For example, the WTP with = more
> active=20 radio
> is high priority.  From the radio configuration=20 perspective,
> the change
> state event request is more = useful,=20 it could help AC to judge
> which radio is
> = operable,
>=20 and should download the radio configuration to it.
>
> = 3.=20  Relationship to IF-MIB
>      I still = think MUST=20 is too strong a requirement. But if
> the WG wants
> to = leave it=20 That way, I would go along with it.  Can we find
> out = what the=20 WG
> wants ?
> [ Richard ]So we close this one.
> = I=20 suggest you check Dan and David's comments to this = question.
>
>=20 Regards
> Richard
>
>
> = -----????-----
> ???:=20 capwap-request@frascone.com=20 [mailto:capwap-request@frascone.com]
>=20 ????: 2009?7?1? 18:17
> ???: capwap@frascone.com
> = ??: Capwap=20 Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1
>
> Send Capwap mailing list = submissions=20 to
>       capwap@frascone.com
>
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>
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>=20 When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more = specific
>=20 than "Re: Contents of Capwap digest..."
>
>
> = Today's=20 Topics:
>
>    1. Re: I updated the comment to = the=20 issue: WTP Id Issue
>       (Abhijit Choudhury=20 (achoudhu))
>
>
>=20 = ---------------------------------------------------------------------->
>=20 Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:56:49 -0700
> = From:=20 "Abhijit Choudhury (achoudhu)" <achoudhu@cisco.com>
> = Subject:=20 Re: [Capwap] I updated the comment to the issue: WTP Id = Issue
> To:=20 "Richard" <rishyang@gmail.com>, "Dan=20 Romascanu"
>       <dromasca@avaya.com>, =   <capwap@frascone.com>
> = Cc:=20 Yong Zhang <yozhang@gmail.com>
>=20 Message-ID:
>
> <0A7D7D6BC1EEF6489C3D0AE1B6B161950989DA9C@xmb-sjc-223.amer.cisc= o.com>
>=20 Content-Type: text/plain;     = charset=3D"us-ascii"
>
>=20 Hi Richard,
>
> 1. WTP Id:
>       = I agree=20 with your assertion below that the Base MAC Address is
> = the
>=20       the better choice.  If you can find a = creative way=20 to add text
> to support
>       this, = that will=20 be great.
>
> 2. Model Number issue:
>   =  =20   I'm okay with using Model number for preconfiguration prior=20 to
> AP join.
>       However, I still = assert=20 that folks will use the WTP Descriptor
> to figure
> =  =20     out the number of active radios after the AP joins. = So, it's=20 not
> clear to
>       me how valuable = this=20 feature is. But I'm okay with leaving it as
> = is.
>
> 3.=20  Relationship to IF-MIB
>      I still = think MUST=20 is too strong a requirement. But if
> the WG wants
> to = leave=20 it
>      That way, I would go along with it. =  Can=20 we find out what the WG
> wants ?
>
> = Thanks,
>=20 Abhijit
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> = From:=20 Richard [mailto:rishyang@gmail.com]
> = Sent:=20 2009-06-26 18:46
> To: Abhijit Choudhury (achoudhu); Dan = Romascanu; capwap@frascone.com
> = Cc: Yong=20 Zhang
> Subject: I updated the comment to the issue: WTP Id=20 Issue
>
> Hi, Abhijit:
>
> I just discussed = the WTP=20 Id issues with my coeditor Yong
> again by Skype.
> I = updated=20 the comments to the issues, kindly let me know your = opinion.
>
>=20 To Dan: Kindly also let me know your opinion,=20 thanks.
>
>
> 1.  WTP Id issues
> = [Abhijit] WTP=20 Profile.  While it's possible to use the
>=20 (VendorId+SerialNumber), I really suspect that a MAC address is = more
>=20 appropriate and something most vendors will end up using. To
> = your=20 point
> about the Base MAC Address not being a MUST, RFC 5415 = seems=20 ambiguous
> about it.
> Note that while the RFC = specifically=20 sates the other types MUST or MAY
> be included, it doesn't = say so for=20 Base MAC Address.  It says the Base
> Mac Address may be = assigned=20 but says nothing about whether it MUST or
> MAY be included in = the=20 Board Data Type.
> Another option is the Base BSSID. Again = although=20 the spec
> only says it's
> recommended, I suspect most = vendors=20 will have it available.
> Could we add text to the effect that = one can=20 use either the
> (VendorId+SerialNumber) as you suggested or = the Base=20 MAC
> Address or Base
> BSSID if it's = available?
>
>=20 [Richard ] As we could not offer two options (BAC Mac or
>=20 (VendorId+SerialNumber))
> to identify a WTP when we design = the MIB,=20 we have to choose one way
> between
> these two. =  For=20 either of them,  it  has some problem.
> Suppose we = use=20 (VendorId+SerialNumber)), the good thing is that they
> are = must=20 be
> carried in the capwap message. The problem is that the=20 Index
> to a WTP
> becomes two
> (Used be one). =  It=20 is not good to the MIB design.
> Suppose we use the base MAC, = the good=20 thing is that keep the
> index to
> a WTP = simple.
> The=20 problem is that RFC5415 does not clearly say whether the
> = field=20 is
> MUST or MAY.
>
>  From the MIB design=20 perspective, it would be better to use
> "BASE Mac"
> = and hope=20 it
> is feasible to add some text in the MIB draft and ask = that "base=20 MAC
> address" field is must
> have.
>
> = BTW,=20  what's your opinion to other two issue?
>
>=20 Regards
> Richard
>
>
>
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>
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header.From=pcalhoun@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim1004 verified; ); Cc: young , capwap@frascone.com, Yong Zhang Subject: Re: [Capwap] Please give feedback to the text for queestion 1, Thanks you X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0493728080==" Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0493728080== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CA0FA0.DB88181A" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA0FA0.DB88181A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I=A1=AFm not against this =A8C it is simply unconventional, but probably = the best and simplest way to address the issue. =20 PatC =20 From: Dorothy Stanley [mailto:dstanley1389@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:51 AM To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) Cc: young; capwap@frascone.com; Yong Zhang Subject: Re: [Capwap] Please give feedback to the text for queestion = 1,Thanks you =20 All, The Base MAC address is not indicated as either mandatory or optional. = The current text in 5415 says 4 - Base MAC Address: The WTP's Base MAC address, which MAY be assigned to the primary Ethernet interface. When it should say either 4 - Base MAC Address: The WTP's Base MAC address MUST be = included in the WTP Board Data message element and MAY be assigned to the primary Ethernet interface. Or 4 - Base MAC Address: The WTP's Base MAC address MAY be included = in the WTP Board Data message element and MAY be assigned to the primary Ethernet interface. The omission of indicating "MAY or MUST be included" is an error in the = base spec, and should be noted as such. Each of the other Board Data = Types indicates either a MUST or MAY for inclusion, and the prior text = states "...and each of these types identify whether their presence is mandatory or optional". My initial inclination is to go ahead and use the WTP Base Mac Address = as the WTP Index in the MIB,and add a note to the MIB document =20 with a reference to 5415 section 4.6.40, and the known errata item. The = missing specification in 5415 can be carried forward as an errata item, = with agreement that the fix is "MUST be included". Thanks, Dorothy =20 2009/7/21 Romascanu, Dan (Dan) We cannot mandate something that is optional in the CAPWAP specification = to be mandatory for implementation for MIB support reasons. I personally = do not remember such precedents, if you know them please point us to = them to see how they solved and described their solutions. Regards, Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: Abhijit Choudhury (achoudhu) [mailto:achoudhu@cisco.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:49 AM > To: young; capwap@frascone.com; Romascanu, Dan (Dan) > Cc: Yong Zhang > Subject: RE: Please give feedback to the text for queestion > 1, Thanks you > > Currently, as per RFC5415, the only MUST elements being sent > by the WTP are VendorId and Serial Number. > I really think it makes sense to use the Base MAC Address for > the WTP_Id. But the Base MAC Address is not a MUST item in > the base spec - although the wording is a little ambiguous. > > The question is: is there any other precedence where > something that's potentially optional in the base spec, is > deemed mandatory to support the MIB ? I seem to recall > something similar in the DHCP spec... > > Thanks, > Abhijit > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: young [mailto:young@h3c.com] > Sent: 2009-07-13 03:57 > To: 'young'; capwap@frascone.com; dromasca@avaya.com; Abhijit > Choudhury (achoudhu) > Cc: 'Yong Zhang' > Subject: Please give feedback to the text for queestion 1, Thanks you > > > > =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: young [mailto:young@h3c.com] > =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2009=C4=EA7=D4=C27=C8=D5 10:02 > =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: 'capwap@frascone.com'; dromasca@avaya.com; = 'achoudhu@cisco.com' > =B3=AD=CB=CD: 'Yong Zhang' > =D6=F7=CC=E2: Could we add such text for question 1 > > Hi, > > To close question 1, could we add some text as followed in the > CAPWAP-BASE-MIB draft: > The RFC5415 does not definitely specify whether the Base MAC > Address is MUST > be included in the WTP Board Data message element. In the > CAPWAP-BASE-MIB, > as it > uses the Base MAC Address to uniquely identify each WTP, it > require that > the implementation of the CAPWAP protocol MUST carry the BASE > MAC address > in the WTP Board Data message element. > > Regards > Richard > > -----=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE----- > =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: capwap-request@frascone.com = [mailto:capwap-request@frascone.com] > =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2009=C4=EA7=D4=C22=C8=D5 18:17 > =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: capwap@frascone.com > =D6=F7=CC=E2: Capwap Digest, Vol 44, Issue 2 > > Send Capwap mailing list submissions to > capwap@frascone.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > capwap-request@frascone.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > capwap-owner@frascone.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Capwap digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. How about we keep the question 1 open and close other > two? (young) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:43:55 +0800 > From: young > Subject: [Capwap] How about we keep the question 1 open and close > other two? > To: capwap@frascone.com > Message-ID: <002c01c9fa41$36ac0070$72449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dgb2312 > > Hi, Abhijit: > > Thanks for update. > How about we keep the question 1 open and close other two? > > 1. WTP Id: > [ Abhijit ] I agree with your assertion below that the Base > MAC Address is > the better choice. If you can find a creative way to add text > to support this, that will be great. > [ Richard ] Keep it open. > I and Yong would put text in the mailing list to go on the discussion. > > 2. Model Number issue: > [ Abhijit ] I'm okay with using Model number for > preconfiguration prior > to > AP join. However, I still assert that folks will use the WTP > Descriptor > to figure out the number of active radios after the AP joins. > So, it's not > clear to me how valuable this feature is. But I'm okay with > leaving it as > is. > [ Richard ]so we close this one. > I felt the active number of radios in the WTP Descriptor > is not very useful, it may help AC to judge which WTP's join > request should > be > Accepted in the high priority. For example, the WTP with more > active radio > is high priority. From the radio configuration perspective, > the change > state event request is more useful, it could help AC to judge > which radio is > operable, > and should download the radio configuration to it. > > 3. Relationship to IF-MIB > I still think MUST is too strong a requirement. But if > the WG wants > to leave it That way, I would go along with it. Can we find > out what the WG > wants ? > [ Richard ]So we close this one. > I suggest you check Dan and David's comments to this question. > > Regards > Richard > > > -----????----- > ???: capwap-request@frascone.com [mailto:capwap-request@frascone.com] > ????: 2009?7?1? 18:17 > ???: capwap@frascone.com > ??: Capwap Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1 > > Send Capwap mailing list submissions to > capwap@frascone.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > capwap-request@frascone.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > capwap-owner@frascone.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Capwap digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: I updated the comment to the issue: WTP Id Issue > (Abhijit Choudhury (achoudhu)) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:56:49 -0700 > From: "Abhijit Choudhury (achoudhu)" > Subject: Re: [Capwap] I updated the comment to the issue: WTP Id Issue > To: "Richard" , "Dan Romascanu" > , > Cc: Yong Zhang > Message-ID: > > <0A7D7D6BC1EEF6489C3D0AE1B6B161950989DA9C@xmb-sjc-223.amer.cisco.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" > > Hi Richard, > > 1. WTP Id: > I agree with your assertion below that the Base MAC Address is > the > the better choice. If you can find a creative way to add text > to support > this, that will be great. > > 2. Model Number issue: > I'm okay with using Model number for preconfiguration prior to > AP join. > However, I still assert that folks will use the WTP Descriptor > to figure > out the number of active radios after the AP joins. So, it's not > clear to > me how valuable this feature is. But I'm okay with leaving it as > is. > > 3. Relationship to IF-MIB > I still think MUST is too strong a requirement. But if > the WG wants > to leave it > That way, I would go along with it. Can we find out what the WG > wants ? > > Thanks, > Abhijit > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard [mailto:rishyang@gmail.com] > Sent: 2009-06-26 18:46 > To: Abhijit Choudhury (achoudhu); Dan Romascanu; capwap@frascone.com > Cc: Yong Zhang > Subject: I updated the comment to the issue: WTP Id Issue > > Hi, Abhijit: > > I just discussed the WTP Id issues with my coeditor Yong > again by Skype. > I updated the comments to the issues, kindly let me know your opinion. > > To Dan: Kindly also let me know your opinion, thanks. > > > 1. WTP Id issues > [Abhijit] WTP Profile. While it's possible to use the > (VendorId+SerialNumber), I really suspect that a MAC address is more > appropriate and something most vendors will end up using. To > your point > about the Base MAC Address not being a MUST, RFC 5415 seems ambiguous > about it. > Note that while the RFC specifically sates the other types MUST or MAY > be included, it doesn't say so for Base MAC Address. It says the Base > Mac Address may be assigned but says nothing about whether it MUST or > MAY be included in the Board Data Type. > Another option is the Base BSSID. Again although the spec > only says it's > recommended, I suspect most vendors will have it available. > Could we add text to the effect that one can use either the > (VendorId+SerialNumber) as you suggested or the Base MAC > Address or Base > BSSID if it's available? > > [Richard ] As we could not offer two options (BAC Mac or > (VendorId+SerialNumber)) > to identify a WTP when we design the MIB, we have to choose one way > between > these two. For either of them, it has some problem. > Suppose we use (VendorId+SerialNumber)), the good thing is that they > are must be > carried in the capwap message. The problem is that the Index > to a WTP > becomes two > (Used be one). It is not good to the MIB design. > Suppose we use the base MAC, the good thing is that keep the > index to > a WTP simple. > The problem is that RFC5415 does not clearly say whether the > field is > MUST or MAY. > > From the MIB design perspective, it would be better to use > "BASE Mac" > and hope it > is feasible to add some text in the MIB draft and ask that "base MAC > address" field is must > have. > > BTW, what's your opinion to other two issue? > > Regards > Richard > > > > ------------------------------ > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap > > End of Capwap Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1 > ************************************* > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > > Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap > > End of Capwap Digest, Vol 44, Issue 2 > ************************************* > > > _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA0FA0.DB88181A Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I=A1=AFm not against this =A8C it is simply = unconventional, but probably the best and simplest way to address the issue.

 

PatC

 

From:= Dorothy = Stanley [mailto:dstanley1389@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:51 AM
To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
Cc: young; capwap@frascone.com; Yong Zhang
Subject: Re: [Capwap] Please give feedback to the text for = queestion 1,Thanks you

 

All,

The = Base MAC address is not indicated as either mandatory or optional. The current = text in 5415 says

     4 -   Base MAC Address: The =
WTP's Base MAC address, which MAY be
            =
assigned to the primary Ethernet interface.

When it should say either

      4 -   Base MAC Address: =
The WTP's Base MAC address MUST be included =
in
          =
  the WTP Board Data message element and MAY =
be
 =
           assigned to =
the primary Ethernet interface.
Or
      4 -   Base MAC Address: =
The WTP's Base MAC address MAY be included =
in
          =
  the WTP Board Data message element and MAY =
be
            =
assigned to the primary Ethernet interface.

The omission of indicating "MAY or MUST be included" is an error = in the base spec, and should be noted as such. Each of the other Board Data = Types indicates either a MUST or MAY for inclusion, and the prior text states "...and each of these types identify whether
their presence is mandatory or optional".

My = initial inclination is to go ahead and use the WTP Base Mac Address as the WTP = Index in the MIB,and add a note to the MIB document 
with a reference to  5415 section 4.6.40, and the known errata = item. The missing specification in 5415 can be carried forward as an errata item, = with
agreement that the fix is "MUST be = included".

Thanks,

Dorothy

 

2009/7/21 Romascanu, Dan (Dan) <dromasca@avaya.com><= /p>

We cannot mandate something that is optional in the = CAPWAP specification to be mandatory for implementation for MIB support = reasons. I personally do not remember such precedents, if you know them please = point us to them to see how they solved and described their solutions.

Regards,

Dan



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abhijit Choudhury (achoudhu) [mailto:achoudhu@cisco.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:49 AM
> To: young; capwap@frascone.com; Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
> Cc: Yong Zhang
> Subject: RE: Please give feedback to the text for queestion
> 1, Thanks you
>
> Currently, as per RFC5415, the only MUST elements being sent
> by the WTP are VendorId and Serial Number.
> I really think it makes sense to use the Base MAC Address for
> the WTP_Id. But the Base MAC Address is not a MUST item in
> the base spec - although the wording is a little ambiguous.
>
> The question is: is there any other precedence where
> something that's potentially optional in the base spec, is
> deemed mandatory to support the MIB ?  I seem to recall
> something similar in the DHCP spec...
>
> Thanks,
> Abhijit
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: young [mailto:young@h3c.com]
> Sent: 2009-07-13 03:57
> To: 'young'; capwap@frascone.com; dromasca@avaya.com; = Abhijit
> Choudhury (achoudhu)
> Cc: 'Yong Zhang'
> Subject: Please give feedback to the text for queestion 1, Thanks = you
>
>
>
> =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: young [mailto:young@h3c.com]
> =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2009=C4=EA7=D4=C27=C8=D5 10:02
> =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: 'capwap@frascone.com'; dromasca@avaya.com; 'achoudhu@cisco.com'
> =B3=AD=CB=CD: 'Yong Zhang'
> =D6=F7=CC=E2: Could we add such text for = question 1
>
> Hi,
>
> To close question 1, could we add some text as followed in the
> CAPWAP-BASE-MIB draft:
> The RFC5415 does not definitely specify whether the Base MAC
> Address is MUST
> be included in the WTP Board Data message element. In the
> CAPWAP-BASE-MIB,
> as it
> uses the Base MAC Address to uniquely identify each WTP, it
> require that
> the implementation of the CAPWAP protocol MUST carry the BASE
> MAC address
> in the WTP Board Data message element.
>
> Regards
> Richard
>
> -----=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE-----
> =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: capwap-request@frascone.com [mailto:capwap-request@frascone.com]
> =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2009=C4=EA7=D4=C22=C8=D5 18:17
> =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: capwap@frascone.com
> =D6=F7=CC=E2: Capwap Digest, Vol 44, = Issue 2
>
> Send Capwap mailing list submissions to
>   =     capwap@frascone.com
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>   =     http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>   =     capwap-request@frascone.com
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
>   =     capwap-owner@frascone.com >
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more = specific
> than "Re: Contents of Capwap digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>   =  1. How about = we keep the question 1 open and close other
> two? (young)
>
>
> = ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:43:55 +0800
> From: young <young@h3c.com>
> Subject: [Capwap] How about we keep the question 1 open and = close
>   =     other = two?
> To: capwap@frascone.com
> Message-ID: <002c01c9fa41$36ac0070$72449a0a@h3c.huawei3com.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dgb2312
>
> Hi, Abhijit:
>
> Thanks for update.
> How about we keep the question 1 open and close other two?
>
> 1. WTP Id:
> [ Abhijit ] I agree with your assertion below that the Base
> MAC Address is
> the better choice.  If you can find a creative way to add text
> to support this, that will be great.
> [ Richard ] Keep it open.
> I and Yong would put text in the mailing list to go on the = discussion.
>
> 2. Model Number issue:
> [ Abhijit ]   I'm okay with using Model number for
> preconfiguration prior
> to
> AP join. However, I still assert that folks will use the WTP
> Descriptor
> to figure out the number of active radios after the AP joins.
> So, it's not
> clear to me how valuable this feature is. But I'm okay with
> leaving it as
> is.
> [ Richard ]so we close this one.
> I felt the active number of radios in the WTP Descriptor
> is not very useful, it may help AC to judge which WTP's join
> request should
> be
> Accepted in the high priority. For example, the WTP with more
> active radio
> is high priority.  From the radio configuration perspective,
> the change
> state event request is more useful, it could help AC to judge
> which radio is
> operable,
> and should download the radio configuration to it.
>
> 3.  Relationship to IF-MIB
>   =    I still think = MUST is too strong a requirement. But if
> the WG wants
> to leave it That way, I would go along with it.  Can we find
> out what the WG
> wants ?
> [ Richard ]So we close this one.
> I suggest you check Dan and David's comments to this question.
>
> Regards
> Richard
>
>
> -----????-----
> ???: capwap-request@frascone.com [mailto:capwap-request@frascone.com]
> ????: 2009?7?1? 18:17
> ???: capwap@frascone.com
> ??: Capwap Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1
>
> Send Capwap mailing list submissions to
>   =     capwap@frascone.com
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>   =     http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>   =     capwap-request@frascone.com
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
>   =     capwap-owner@frascone.com >
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more = specific
> than "Re: Contents of Capwap digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>   =  1. Re: I = updated the comment to the issue: WTP Id Issue
>   =     (Abhijit = Choudhury (achoudhu))
>
>
> = ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:56:49 -0700
> From: "Abhijit Choudhury (achoudhu)" <achoudhu@cisco.com>
> Subject: Re: [Capwap] I updated the comment to the issue: WTP Id = Issue
> To: "Richard" <rishyang@gmail.com>, "Dan Romascanu"
>   =     <dromasca@avaya.com>,   <capwap@frascone.com>
> Cc: Yong Zhang <yozhang@gmail.com>
> Message-ID:
>
> <0A7D7D6BC1EEF6489C3D0AE1B6B161950989DA9C@xmb-sjc-223.amer.cisc= o.com>
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> Hi Richard,
>
> 1. WTP Id:
>   =     I agree with = your assertion below that the Base MAC Address is
> the
>   =     the better = choice.  If you can = find a creative way to add text
> to support
>   =     this, that = will be great.
>
> 2. Model Number issue:
>   =     I'm okay with = using Model number for preconfiguration prior to
> AP join.
>   =     However, I = still assert that folks will use the WTP Descriptor
> to figure
>   =     out the = number of active radios after the AP joins. So, it's not
> clear to
>   =     me how = valuable this feature is. But I'm okay with leaving it as
> is.
>
> 3.  Relationship to IF-MIB
>   =    I still think = MUST is too strong a requirement. But if
> the WG wants
> to leave it
>   =    That way, I = would go along with it.  Can we find out what the WG
> wants ?
>
> Thanks,
> Abhijit
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard [mailto:rishyang@gmail.com]
> Sent: 2009-06-26 18:46
> To: Abhijit Choudhury (achoudhu); Dan Romascanu; capwap@frascone.com
> Cc: Yong Zhang
> Subject: I updated the comment to the issue: WTP Id Issue
>
> Hi, Abhijit:
>
> I just discussed the WTP Id issues with my coeditor Yong
> again by Skype.
> I updated the comments to the issues, kindly let me know your = opinion.
>
> To Dan: Kindly also let me know your opinion, thanks.
>
>
> 1.  WTP Id issues
> [Abhijit] WTP Profile.  While it's possible to use the
> (VendorId+SerialNumber), I really suspect that a MAC address is = more
> appropriate and something most vendors will end up using. To
> your point
> about the Base MAC Address not being a MUST, RFC 5415 seems = ambiguous
> about it.
> Note that while the RFC specifically sates the other types MUST or = MAY
> be included, it doesn't say so for Base MAC Address.  It says the = Base
> Mac Address may be assigned but says nothing about whether it MUST = or
> MAY be included in the Board Data Type.
> Another option is the Base BSSID. Again although the spec
> only says it's
> recommended, I suspect most vendors will have it available.
> Could we add text to the effect that one can use either the
> (VendorId+SerialNumber) as you suggested or the Base MAC
> Address or Base
> BSSID if it's available?
>
> [Richard ] As we could not offer two options (BAC Mac or
> (VendorId+SerialNumber))
> to identify a WTP when we design the MIB, we have to choose one = way
> between
> these two.  For either of them,  it  has some = problem.
> Suppose we use (VendorId+SerialNumber)), the good thing is that = they
> are must be
> carried in the capwap message. The problem is that the Index
> to a WTP
> becomes two
> (Used be one).  It is not good to the MIB design.
> Suppose we use the base MAC, the good thing is that keep the
> index to
> a WTP simple.
> The problem is that RFC5415 does not clearly say whether the
> field is
> MUST or MAY.
>
>  From the MIB design perspective, it would be better to use
> "BASE Mac"
> and hope it
> is feasible to add some text in the MIB draft and ask that = "base MAC
> address" field is must
> have.
>
> BTW,  what's your opinion to other two issue?
>
> Regards
> Richard
>
>
>
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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CA10DA.18D3D050-- From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Thu Jul 30 01:04:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB94F28C187 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:04:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.286 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.286 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.313, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KxAneB8yLkqA for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0885D28C159 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC2CEDC049 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C1BE240B8 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:04:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6347D19DCDC for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:04:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2DB119DCD9 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:04:07 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mrw@sandstorm.net whitelisted) Received: from sirocco.sandstorm.net (sirocco.sandstorm.net [69.33.111.75]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-53f4.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-53f4.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.83.244] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by sirocco.sandstorm.net (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n6U843sR068211 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:04:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mrw@sandstorm.net) Message-Id: From: Margaret Wasserman To: capwap Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:04:02 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: [Capwap] Call for Comments on Base Spec Errata X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com In the CAPWAP WG meeting today in Sweden, we had agreement to submit an erratum for the CAPWAP base specification to indicate that the MAC address is mandatory. The change to RFC 5415 would be: OLD: 4 - Base MAC Address: The WTP's Base MAC address, which MAY be assigned to the primary Ethernet interface. NEW: 4 - Base MAC Address: The WTP's Base MAC address MUST be included in the WTP Board Data message element and MAY be assigned to the primary Ethernet interface. If you have any objection to this change, please communicate your concerns to the CAPWAP mailing list within two weeks (by Friday, August 14th). If we hear no objections, Dorothy Stanley (one of the editors of RFC 5415) will submit this erratum to the RFC editor, and Dan Romascanu (our AD) will approve it. Margaret (for the CAPWAP Co-Chairs) _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Thu Jul 30 01:45:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD573A6C2F for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:45:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.325 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.325 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.274, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1hBMMYX4QxPP for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:45:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEA1B3A69A0 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:45:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8772EDC027 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:45:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9FAE240B8 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:45:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F1034AC056 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:45:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8251534AC054 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:45:31 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (mrw@sandstorm.net whitelisted) Received: from sirocco.sandstorm.net (sirocco.sandstorm.net [69.33.111.75]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:45:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-53f4.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-53f4.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.83.244] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by sirocco.sandstorm.net (8.13.8/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n6U8jRLk070536 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:45:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mrw@sandstorm.net) Message-Id: <19FC77C7-28D4-42CF-8197-B1BB46FF600E@sandstorm.net> From: Margaret Wasserman To: capwap Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:45:27 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: [Capwap] Draft Minutes from IETF75 Sweden X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Here are my draft minutes from the CAPWAP meeting. Please let me know if there are any comments. Margaret CAPWAP WG Agenda IETF75, Stockholm, Sweden Thursday, July 30, 2009 0900-1130, Room 300 ========================= AGENDA: - Agenda Bashing & Administrivia (Chairs) - MIB Status Update/Discussion (Richard) http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-05.txt http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-capwap-802dot11-mib-04.txt - Reserved WBID Allocations Discussion (Margaret) Should we reserve a WBID for future extensibility (0)? Should we reserve another for experimental/proprietary use (31)? (Due to A/V problems, we moved the discussion of WBID allocations to before the MIB status.) RESERVED WBID ALLOCATIONS: Margaret Wasserman reviewed mail that she sent to the list about WBID allocations that the group may want to make: (1) To reserve value 31 as an escape to an extended numbering space. (2) To reserve a WBID value for experimental use. There was general agreement in the room to allocate a number for extended WBID numbering. There was some support for doing this in the room and some uncertainty about whether this is needed. The general agreement was the Margaret should write a draft requesting these allocations for WG review. MIB STATUS: Richard presented his slides on the MIB status that summarized all of the issues that have been raised and proposed how to address them. The only substantive issue was the question about whether the MAC Address is mandatory in the CAPWAP Base Spec and could therefore be used as an index in the MIB. The MAC Address requirement level (mandatory or optional) is not specified in RFC 5415. General discussion on the list and in the room indicated that people thought that the MAC Address should be mandatory. There will be a call on the list to determine if there is WG consensus on this point. If so, Dorothy Stanley (one of the RFC 5415 authors) will submit an erratum to the RFC editor, and Dan Romascanu (our AD) will approve it. Richard will update the MIB with all of the changes he proposed on his slides, and we will have a final two-week WG last call. The last call will mention the indexing change and check consensus on that change. If the LC is successful, we will submit the MIBs to the IESG. _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From johnsmithsvt@aachendom.de Thu Jul 30 02:34:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A14628C17B for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 02:34:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -23.063 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-23.063 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_80=2, HELO_EQ_DSL=1.129, HELO_EQ_PL=1.135, HOST_EQ_PL=1.95, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_04=2.041, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_SHORT_LINK_IMG_1=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=0.877, RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033, SARE_HTML_A_BODY=0.742, SARE_HTML_IMG_ONLY=1.666, URIBL_AB_SURBL=10, URIBL_BLACK=20, URIBL_JP_SURBL=10, URIBL_SC_SURBL=10, URIBL_WS_SURBL=10, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vSms7uJgmWfm for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 02:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aczz208.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl (aczz208.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.11.235.208]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6841328C28C for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 02:33:57 -0700 (PDT) To: Subject: Re: Order status From: MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: High Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20090730093359.6841328C28C@core3.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 02:33:57 -0700 (PDT) Show picture and go to site now! From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Thu Jul 30 10:26:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 121F628C285 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:26:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.633 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.633 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.966, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ok4jmukYDqDQ for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:26:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E978C28C1AA for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:26:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19ED4E1822E for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (mx1.tigertech.net [64.62.209.31]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A041E240B8 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:26:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70D3E34AC05C for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:26:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from mx1.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F6D34AC05A for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:26:48 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (achoudhu@cisco.com whitelisted) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by mx1.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:26:48 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAMN0cUqrR7O6/2dsb2JhbAC7XIgnkC4FhBGBToJE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,296,1246838400"; d="scan'208";a="357221529" Received: from sj-dkim-2.cisco.com ([171.71.179.186]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 30 Jul 2009 17:26:48 +0000 Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com (sj-core-4.cisco.com [171.68.223.138]) by sj-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6UHQl9u015422; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:26:47 -0700 Received: from xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-211.cisco.com [171.70.151.144]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6UHQk2Q007159; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:26:47 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-223.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.124]) by xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:26:42 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:26:37 -0700 Message-ID: <0A7D7D6BC1EEF6489C3D0AE1B6B1619509C84010@xmb-sjc-223.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <19FC77C7-28D4-42CF-8197-B1BB46FF600E@sandstorm.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Draft Minutes from IETF75 Sweden Thread-Index: AcoQ8h/aDWQGNS98RDqkunPkEjSc3wASKczg References: <19FC77C7-28D4-42CF-8197-B1BB46FF600E@sandstorm.net> From: "Abhijit Choudhury (achoudhu)" To: "Margaret Wasserman" , "capwap" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2009 17:26:42.0096 (UTC) FILETIME=[E75E1B00:01CA113A] Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-2; header.From=achoudhu@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim2002 verified; ); Subject: Re: [Capwap] Draft Minutes from IETF75 Sweden X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Hi Margaret, What is the status of the review of the request for a CAPWAP Wireless Binding Identifier for the China Broadband Wireless IP Standard Group ? Thanks, Abhijit -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Wasserman [mailto:mrw@sandstorm.net] Sent: 2009-07-30 01:45 To: capwap Subject: [Capwap] Draft Minutes from IETF75 Sweden Here are my draft minutes from the CAPWAP meeting. Please let me know if there are any comments. Margaret CAPWAP WG Agenda IETF75, Stockholm, Sweden Thursday, July 30, 2009 0900-1130, Room 300 ========================= AGENDA: - Agenda Bashing & Administrivia (Chairs) - MIB Status Update/Discussion (Richard) http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-05.txt http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-capwap-802dot11-mib-04.txt - Reserved WBID Allocations Discussion (Margaret) Should we reserve a WBID for future extensibility (0)? Should we reserve another for experimental/proprietary use (31)? (Due to A/V problems, we moved the discussion of WBID allocations to before the MIB status.) RESERVED WBID ALLOCATIONS: Margaret Wasserman reviewed mail that she sent to the list about WBID allocations that the group may want to make: (1) To reserve value 31 as an escape to an extended numbering space. (2) To reserve a WBID value for experimental use. There was general agreement in the room to allocate a number for extended WBID numbering. There was some support for doing this in the room and some uncertainty about whether this is needed. The general agreement was the Margaret should write a draft requesting these allocations for WG review. MIB STATUS: Richard presented his slides on the MIB status that summarized all of the issues that have been raised and proposed how to address them. The only substantive issue was the question about whether the MAC Address is mandatory in the CAPWAP Base Spec and could therefore be used as an index in the MIB. The MAC Address requirement level (mandatory or optional) is not specified in RFC 5415. General discussion on the list and in the room indicated that people thought that the MAC Address should be mandatory. There will be a call on the list to determine if there is WG consensus on this point. If so, Dorothy Stanley (one of the RFC 5415 authors) will submit an erratum to the RFC editor, and Dan Romascanu (our AD) will approve it. Richard will update the MIB with all of the changes he proposed on his slides, and we will have a final two-week WG last call. The last call will mention the indexing change and check consensus on that change. If the LC is successful, we will submit the MIBs to the IESG. _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap From capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com Thu Jul 30 12:56:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-capwap-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FAFB3A68AB for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:56:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.904 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.904 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.696, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZSRP0pP4j-Q4 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:56:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.tigertech.net (lists.tigertech.net [64.62.209.34]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A683A69F1 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:56:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zoidberg.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zoidberg.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B59BAE18068 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:56:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (morbo.tigertech.net [67.131.251.53]) by lists.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E173E240B8 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD031A02DB for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:56:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at morbo.tigertech.net Received: from mx3.tigertech.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB911A02D3 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:56:12 -0700 (PDT) X-TigerTech-Content-Filter: Clean X-TigerTech-Spam-Status: Level 0 (High) (P0); Whitelisted TTSSA (pcalhoun@cisco.com whitelisted) Received: from syd-iport-1.cisco.com (syd-iport-1.cisco.com [64.104.193.196]) by mx3.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:56:12 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAHOXcUpAaMF0/2dsb2JhbAC7QYgnkEEFhBeEEw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.43,296,1246838400"; d="scan'208";a="58745652" Received: from syd-dkim-1.cisco.com ([64.104.193.116]) by syd-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 30 Jul 2009 19:56:10 +0000 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com (sj-core-5.cisco.com [171.71.177.238]) by syd-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6UJu9Vm003875; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 05:56:09 +1000 Received: from xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-221.cisco.com [128.107.191.63]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n6UJu9ig012055; Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:56:09 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.85]) by xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:56:09 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:56:06 -0700 Message-ID: <4FF84B0BC277FF45AA27FE969DD956A208838C92@xmb-sjc-235.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Capwap] Call for Comments on Base Spec Errata thread-index: AcoQ7FsH0R+/47ALS1+MzT4pUe73sAAY2lDQ References: From: "Pat Calhoun (pacalhou)" To: "Margaret Wasserman" , "capwap" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2009 19:56:09.0090 (UTC) FILETIME=[C81CCE20:01CA114F] Authentication-Results: syd-dkim-1; header.From=pcalhoun@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/syddkim1002 verified; ); Subject: Re: [Capwap] Call for Comments on Base Spec Errata X-BeenThere: capwap@frascone.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: A list for CAPWAP technical discussions List-Post: X-Tigertech-Mailman-Hint: 636170776170 List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: capwap-bounces+capwap-archive=lists.ietf.org@frascone.com OK with me PatC -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Wasserman [mailto:mrw@sandstorm.net] Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 1:04 AM To: capwap Subject: [Capwap] Call for Comments on Base Spec Errata In the CAPWAP WG meeting today in Sweden, we had agreement to submit an erratum for the CAPWAP base specification to indicate that the MAC address is mandatory. The change to RFC 5415 would be: OLD: 4 - Base MAC Address: The WTP's Base MAC address, which MAY be assigned to the primary Ethernet interface. NEW: 4 - Base MAC Address: The WTP's Base MAC address MUST be included in the WTP Board Data message element and MAY be assigned to the primary Ethernet interface. If you have any objection to this change, please communicate your concerns to the CAPWAP mailing list within two weeks (by Friday, August 14th). If we hear no objections, Dorothy Stanley (one of the editors of RFC 5415) will submit this erratum to the RFC editor, and Dan Romascanu (our AD) will approve it. Margaret (for the CAPWAP Co-Chairs) _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap _________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/capwap Archives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/capwap
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