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Another open issue is that the email address for Chris Elliott
in this draft is wrong and needs to be corrected ...

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Black, David 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 7:43 PM
> To: young@h3c.com; dperkins@snmpinfo.com; chelliot@cisco.com; 
> yzhang@fortinet.com; gen-art@ietf.org
> Cc: Black, David; mmani@avaya.com; dorothy.gellert@gmail.com; 
> mrw@lilacglade.org; Dan (Dan) Romascanu; capwap@frascone.com
> Subject: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-06
> 
> I have been selected as the General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) 
> reviewer for this draft (for background on Gen-ART, please see 
> http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/gen/art/gen-art-FAQ.html).
> 
> Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call
> comments you may receive.
> 
> Document: draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-06
> Reviewer: David L. Black
> Review Date: November 25, 2009
> IETF LC End Date: December 7, 2009
> 
> Summary:
> This draft is on the right track, but has open issues, described
> in the review.
> 
> Comments:
> This draft defines a MIB for the CAPWAP protocol.  It also extends
> that protocol, which is a peculiar thing to do in a MIB document.
> I've left review of the actual MIB definitions to the expertise 
> of the MIB Doctors.
> 
> The important open issues that need to be resolved are tagged 
> with [*].
> 
> [*] Intended document status is now Informational.  That needs to
> be changed on the title page, but more importantly, someone
> (draft shepherd?) should double-check whether the requested
> IANA allocations are appropriate for an Informational document.
> If there's a problem here, the IESG should be warned that a
> process exception may be needed, as I think the allocations are
> necessary for this draft.
> 
> [*] I see lots of editorial problems in the text prior to the
> MIB definitions, most of which are not called out in this review.
> I strongly suggest an editorial pass by a native speaker of
> English prior to IESG Review.  Here's an example from Section
> 5.6 - the use of the word "conception" is incorrect in this phrase:
> 	the protocol of [RFC5416] defines WLAN conception
> A better word would be "creation".
> 
> Terminology section:
> - Add a definition of PHY, it's undefined in this document.
> - Add a definition of WLAN, while it's defined elsewhere, WLAN
> 	is a crucial concept for this draft and hence needs a
> 	definition here.
> - The definition of station (STA) is sufficiently general to
> 	include WTPs.  Was that intended?
> 
> Section 5.1 should explain the division of management of a
> WTP between the actual CAPWAP protocol and this MIB.  The
> first bullet creates this confusion, and that bullet is not
> consistent with the first bullet in 5.4.  That lack of
> consistency  should be corrected in addition to providing
> the explanation.
> 
> Section 5.4: "The ifIndex [RFC2863] is used as a common handler"
> I don't think it's a "handler".  The ifIndex is actually an index.
> 
> [*] The text in Section 5.7 attempts to modify RFC 5415.  That's
> not a good idea for an Informational document.  It is ok to
> say that if the additional requirements are not followed, this
> MIB will not be useful or usable.
> 
> [*] Why is Section 9 (CAPWAP Message Element Extension) in a
> MIB draft?  MIB drafts generally do not make changes to the
> protocol that they provide management for.  This section, and
> the changes in Section 5.7 ought to be in a separate draft
> that could be standards track.
> 
> Appendix A (change history) should include a request to the
> RFC Editor to remove it before publication of the RFC.
> 
> idnits 2.11.15 found a couple of nits:
> 
>   == The document seems to lack a disclaimer for pre-RFC5378 
> work, but was
>      first submitted before 10 November 2008.  Should you add 
> the disclaimer?
>      (See the Legal Provisions document at
>      http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info for more information.).
> 
>   == Outdated reference: A later version (-05) exists of
>      draft-ietf-capwap-802dot11-mib-04
> 
> Thanks,
> --David
> ----------------------------------------------------
> David L. Black, Distinguished Engineer
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I have been selected as the General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) 
reviewer for this draft (for background on Gen-ART, please see 
http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/gen/art/gen-art-FAQ.html).

Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call
comments you may receive.

Document: draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-06
Reviewer: David L. Black
Review Date: November 25, 2009
IETF LC End Date: December 7, 2009

Summary:
This draft is on the right track, but has open issues, described
in the review.

Comments:
This draft defines a MIB for the CAPWAP protocol.  It also extends
that protocol, which is a peculiar thing to do in a MIB document.
I've left review of the actual MIB definitions to the expertise 
of the MIB Doctors.

The important open issues that need to be resolved are tagged with [*].

[*] Intended document status is now Informational.  That needs to
be changed on the title page, but more importantly, someone
(draft shepherd?) should double-check whether the requested
IANA allocations are appropriate for an Informational document.
If there's a problem here, the IESG should be warned that a
process exception may be needed, as I think the allocations are
necessary for this draft.

[*] I see lots of editorial problems in the text prior to the
MIB definitions, most of which are not called out in this review.
I strongly suggest an editorial pass by a native speaker of
English prior to IESG Review.  Here's an example from Section
5.6 - the use of the word "conception" is incorrect in this phrase:
	the protocol of [RFC5416] defines WLAN conception
A better word would be "creation".

Terminology section:
- Add a definition of PHY, it's undefined in this document.
- Add a definition of WLAN, while it's defined elsewhere, WLAN
	is a crucial concept for this draft and hence needs a
	definition here.
- The definition of station (STA) is sufficiently general to
	include WTPs.  Was that intended?

Section 5.1 should explain the division of management of a
WTP between the actual CAPWAP protocol and this MIB.  The
first bullet creates this confusion, and that bullet is not
consistent with the first bullet in 5.4.  That lack of
consistency  should be corrected in addition to providing
the explanation.

Section 5.4: "The ifIndex [RFC2863] is used as a common handler"
I don't think it's a "handler".  The ifIndex is actually an index.

[*] The text in Section 5.7 attempts to modify RFC 5415.  That's
not a good idea for an Informational document.  It is ok to
say that if the additional requirements are not followed, this
MIB will not be useful or usable.

[*] Why is Section 9 (CAPWAP Message Element Extension) in a
MIB draft?  MIB drafts generally do not make changes to the
protocol that they provide management for.  This section, and
the changes in Section 5.7 ought to be in a separate draft
that could be standards track.

Appendix A (change history) should include a request to the
RFC Editor to remove it before publication of the RFC.

idnits 2.11.15 found a couple of nits:

  == The document seems to lack a disclaimer for pre-RFC5378 work, but
was
     first submitted before 10 November 2008.  Should you add the
disclaimer?
     (See the Legal Provisions document at
     http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info for more information.).

  == Outdated reference: A later version (-05) exists of
     draft-ietf-capwap-802dot11-mib-04

Thanks,
--David
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SMICng (strict checking) tells me:

W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (851,17) Item =
"capwapBaseWtpStateWtpBaseMacAddress" should have SIZE specified
W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (974,17) Item "capwapBaseWtpBaseMacAddress" =
should have SIZE specified
W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (2038,17) Item "capwapBaseNtfStationIdList" =
should have SIZE specified
W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1293,7) Row "capwapBaseStationEntry" does not =
have a consistent indexing sche
me - cannot specify an index item from additional "base row" =
capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have only
one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry
W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1509,13) Row "capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry" =
does not have a consistent ind
exing scheme - cannot specify an index item from additional "base row" =
capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can
have only one "base row" which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry

I am somewhat surprised to see the above warnings while David Perkins is =
listed on the front-page.

Further I see:

capwapBaseAcNameListRowStatus OBJECT-TYPE
    SYNTAX      RowStatus
    MAX-ACCESS  read-create
    STATUS      current
    DESCRIPTION
        "This variable is used to create, modify, and/or delete a row
         in this table."
    ::=3D { capwapBaseAcNameListEntry 4 }

I thought that a RowStatus object MUST describe if and under which =
conditions
any writable (including read-create) objects can be modified if the row =
is Active?

The same holds true for some (all?) other RowStatus objects

Then I see:

capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIp OBJECT-TYPE
    SYNTAX      InetAddress
    MAX-ACCESS  read-create
    STATUS      current
    DESCRIPTION
        "When capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIpEnable is true,
         it represents the static IP address to be assigned to the WTP."
    REFERENCE
        "Section 4.6.48. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415."
    ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpProfileEntry 9 }


I thought that nay object of SYNTAX InetAddress MUST state in its =
DESCRIPTION
clause which object of SYNTAX InetAddressType specifies the format?
Further, it seems that "dns" is a valid InetAddressType. So in that =
case, the
DESCRIPTION clauses MUST explain when the dns name is resolved.
See RFC4001 for details.

Same question for various other objects of SYNATX InetAddress.

I see:

capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE
    SYNTAX      INTEGER {
                  limited(0),
                  fullAndLimited(1)
                }
    MAX-ACCESS  read-create
    STATUS      current

Normally we recommend that ENUMERATIONS do NOT start with zero, unless
there is a good reason (which we then like to see in the DESCRIPTION =
clause).
So... what is the reason?

Same question for: capwapBaseWtpDiscoveryType
And for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsLastFailureType
And possibly others!! pls check.

I see:

capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount OBJECT-TYPE
    SYNTAX      Counter32
    MAX-ACCESS  read-only
    STATUS      current
    DESCRIPTION
        "Represents the number of reboots that have occurred at the
         request of a CAPWAP protocol message, such as a change in
         configuration that requires a reboot or an explicit CAPWAP
         protocol reset request.  A value of 65535 implies that this
         information is not available on the WTP."
    REFERENCE
        "Section 4.6.47. of CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415."
    ::=3D { capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsEntry 2 }

I do not believe that a SYNTAX of Counter32 allows any value (like the =
65535)=20
to have a specific meaning !!!!! This is impossible given the semantics =
for the
Counter32 SYNTAX.

Same for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsRebootCount
and possibly others, pls check and make sure.

I wonder if there is a risk of sending too many notifications in a very =
short time?
IS there a way to control the rate of notifications?
If the risk does not exists, then maybe some words about that would be =
good.

In the MODULE-COMPLIANCE, I would have expected at least that some (or =
all) of
the IF-MIB module would also be mandatory???!!!

Bert WIjnen


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>SMICng (strict checking) tells me:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (851,17) Item=20
"capwapBaseWtpStateWtpBaseMacAddress" should have SIZE =
specified</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (974,17) Item=20
"capwapBaseWtpBaseMacAddress" should have SIZE specified<BR>W:=20
f(capwap-base.mi2), (2038,17) Item "capwapBaseNtfStationIdList" should =
have SIZE=20
specified<BR>W: f(capwap-base.mi2), (1293,7) Row =
"capwapBaseStationEntry" does=20
not have a consistent indexing sche<BR>me - cannot specify an index item =
from=20
additional "base row" capwapBaseWtpEntry, since can have only<BR>one =
"base row"=20
which is capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry<BR>W: f(capwap-base.mi2), =
(1509,13) Row=20
"capwapBaseRadioEventsStatsEntry" does not have a consistent =
ind<BR>exing scheme=20
- cannot specify an index item from additional "base row" =
capwapBaseWtpEntry,=20
since can<BR>have only one "base row" which is=20
capwapBaseWirelessBindingEntry<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I am somewhat surprised to see the above warnings =
while David=20
Perkins is listed on the front-page.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Further I see:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>capwapBaseAcNameListRowStatus=20
OBJECT-TYPE<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; SYNTAX&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
RowStatus<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; MAX-ACCESS&nbsp;=20
read-create<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; STATUS&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
current</FONT></DIV><FONT size=3D2>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
DESCRIPTION<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "This variable =
is used=20
to create, modify, and/or delete a=20
row<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; in this=20
table."<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ::=3D { capwapBaseAcNameListEntry 4 =
}</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I thought that a RowStatus object MUST describe if and under which=20
conditions</DIV>
<DIV>any writable (including read-create) objects can be modified if the =
row is=20
Active?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>The same holds true&nbsp;for some (all?) other RowStatus =
objects</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Then I see:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIp OBJECT-TYPE<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
SYNTAX&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; InetAddress<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
MAX-ACCESS&nbsp; read-create<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
STATUS&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; current<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
DESCRIPTION<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "When=20
capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpStaticIpEnable is=20
true,<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; it represents =
the=20
static IP address to be assigned to the WTP."<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
REFERENCE<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Section 4.6.48. =
of=20
CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415."<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ::=3D {=20
capwapBaseWtpProfileEntry 9 }</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I thought that nay object of SYNTAX InetAddress MUST state in its=20
DESCRIPTION</DIV>
<DIV>clause which object of SYNTAX InetAddressType specifies the =
format?</DIV>
<DIV>Further, it seems that "dns" is a valid InetAddressType. So in that =
case,=20
the</DIV>
<DIV>DESCRIPTION clauses MUST explain when the dns name is =
resolved.</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>See RFC4001 for details.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
<DIV>Same question for various other objects of SYNATX =
InetAddress.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I see:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>capwapBaseWtpProfileWtpEcnSupport OBJECT-TYPE<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =

SYNTAX&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; INTEGER=20
{<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
limited(0),<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
fullAndLimited(1)<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
}<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; MAX-ACCESS&nbsp; =
read-create<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
STATUS&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; current</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Normally we recommend that ENUMERATIONS do NOT start with zero,=20
unless</DIV>
<DIV>there is a good reason (which we then like to see in the =
DESCRIPTION=20
clause).</DIV>
<DIV>So... what is the reason?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Same question for: capwapBaseWtpDiscoveryType</DIV>
<DIV>And for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsLastFailureType</DIV>
<DIV>And possibly others!! pls check.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I see:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsInitCount OBJECT-TYPE<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =

SYNTAX&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Counter32<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
MAX-ACCESS&nbsp; read-only<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
STATUS&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; current<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
DESCRIPTION<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Represents =
the number=20
of reboots that have occurred at=20
the<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; request of a =
CAPWAP=20
protocol message, such as a change=20
in<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; configuration =
that=20
requires a reboot or an explicit=20
CAPWAP<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; protocol =
reset=20
request.&nbsp; A value of 65535 implies that=20
this<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; information is =
not=20
available on the WTP."<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
REFERENCE<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Section 4.6.47. =
of=20
CAPWAP Protocol Specification, RFC 5415."<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ::=3D {=20
capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsEntry 2 }</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I do not believe that a SYNTAX of Counter32 allows any value (like =
the=20
65535) </DIV>
<DIV>to have a specific meaning !!!!! This is impossible given the =
semantics for=20
the</DIV>
<DIV>Counter32 SYNTAX.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Same for: capwapBaseWtpEventsStatsRebootCount</DIV>
<DIV>and possibly others, pls check and make sure.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I wonder if there is a risk of sending too many notifications in a =
very=20
short time?</DIV>
<DIV>IS there a way to control the rate of notifications?</DIV>
<DIV>If the risk does not exists, then maybe some words about that would =
be=20
good.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>In the MODULE-COMPLIANCE, I would have expected at least that some =
(or all)=20
of</DIV>
<DIV>the IF-MIB module would also be mandatory???!!!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Bert WIjnen</DIV>
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