From lberger@labn.net Fri Jun 12 13:54:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B53023A6862 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:54:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.265 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.265 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Zkw2Tz2GUavv for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:54:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outbound-mail-38.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-38.bluehost.com [69.89.20.192]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5EA623A68A2 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20891 invoked by uid 0); 12 Jun 2009 20:53:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by outboundproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 12 Jun 2009 20:53:54 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=labn.net; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Identified-User; b=hlaPyuZseznpkZnscfAvJyU6GyXBRG3hW1CvS5YvZhJ7YbMr5oNR5pTHGFSfK9NwGVkinC5xG9XQCNB9Qwd8B7NRbNKZLE5H1Z+GTvurHUPi+1qdAIWkPWXg6hdEP7uL; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MFDl4-00069C-HV; Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:53:54 -0600 Message-ID: <4A32C057.7090200@labn.net> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:53:43 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20090408 Eudora/3.0b2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ccamp@ops.ietf.org, ccamp@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Subject: [CCAMP] CCAMP Mailing list transition X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:54:05 -0000 All, The CCAMP mailing list is moving from ccamp@ops.ietf.org to ccamp@ietf.org. As part of this transition, and thanks to Steve Young, everyone subscribed to the old list has been added to the new list. There were already some people who had subscribed to ccamp@ietf.org so the list membership has grown from 647 subscribers on the old list to 685 on the new one. You may note that this mail has been sent to both lists to ensure no one is accidentally dropped. Over the next few days the IETF and alternate web pages will be changed to point to the new list the old list will be shut down. The mail archive for April and May is not moved over as of the now, but should be in the next few days. For now both the old and new archives are available. Going forward please post all CCAMP WG mail *only* to ccamp@ietf.org. Thank you, Lou (and Deborah) New list: ccamp@ietf.org List information and subscription: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp New archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/ Old archive: https://ops.ietf.org/lists/ccamp/ccamp.2009 From lberger@labn.net Mon Jun 15 04:29:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE183A68D3 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 04:29:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.801 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.801 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.237, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, SARE_SUB_OBFU_Q1=0.227] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2CVtq+sN2OfM for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 04:29:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outbound-mail-29.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-29.bluehost.com [69.89.17.211]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C03893A699A for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 04:29:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20200 invoked by uid 0); 15 Jun 2009 11:29:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by outboundproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 15 Jun 2009 11:29:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=labn.net; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Identified-User; b=NaMCTwB9GGDfO31qv0OAdPF9RWOk7ymKsmXpzsrnTCC5ZxpN5J/0So7aIjH4w2GStKxMHjBL7qhfTwIJ0p4isY4LLx9S6Tk41I1/tJTCv0uegeeqn6EWKJaGuDYngYvv; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MGANY-0007Ub-Ro for ccamp@ietf.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 05:29:32 -0600 Message-ID: <4A36308C.4090001@labn.net> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 07:29:16 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20090408 Eudora/3.0b2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ccamp@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Subject: [CCAMP] [Fwd: I-D Action:draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-gmpls-provider-reqs-02.txt] X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:29:25 -0000 FYI - looks like some pointers have not been updated. Kudos to Adrian for noticing! Lou -------- Original Message -------- Subject: I-D Action:draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-gmpls-provider-reqs-02.txt Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 18:00:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Reply-To: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org CC: ccamp@ops.ietf.org A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF. Title : Service Provider Requirements for Ethernet control with GMPLS Author(s) : W. Imajuku, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-gmpls-provider-reqs-02.txt Pages : 20 Date : 2009-06-14 Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) is applicable to Ethernet switches supporting Provider Backbone Bridge Traffic Engineering (PBB-TE) networks. The GMPLS controlled Ethernet label switch network not only automates creation of Ethernet Label Switched Paths(Eth-LSPs), it also provides sophisticated Eth-LSP recovery Mechanisms such as protection and restoration of an Eth-LSP. This document describes the requirements for the set of solutions of GMPLS controlled Ethernet label switch networks. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-gmpls-provider-reqs-02.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. From lberger@labn.net Mon Jun 15 04:32:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66E3F3A6A06 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 04:32:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.974 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.974 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.291, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6nwPLxTA2dCX for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 04:32:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outbound-mail-11.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-11.bluehost.com [69.89.18.111]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 822EB3A68D3 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 04:32:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21479 invoked by uid 0); 15 Jun 2009 11:32:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by outboundproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 15 Jun 2009 11:32:21 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=labn.net; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Identified-User; b=iYj/To3LAvNDzjjNspoynNFnB/qVntrnXizNdxNOQ14H9zfnXGLai4zjKHW1FP83UI06j2QafOXrIu6CbPy2ZxtkyyC10IdPbmxJ6CMnYwtotDFbK+LXyK+twk13k/ew; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MGAQH-0000kA-L3 for ccamp@ietf.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 05:32:21 -0600 Message-ID: <4A363135.8020208@labn.net> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 07:32:05 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20090408 Eudora/3.0b2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ccamp@ietf.org References: <4A32C057.7090200@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <4A32C057.7090200@labn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Subject: [CCAMP] Old mailing list shut down X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:32:12 -0000 All, The old list was shutdown over the weekend. This was a bit more abrupt than expected/planned. Please ensure you use ccamp@ietf.org for all WG communication going forward. Thank you, Lou On 6/12/2009 4:53 PM, Lou Berger wrote: > All, > > The CCAMP mailing list is moving from ccamp@ops.ietf.org to > ccamp@ietf.org. As part of this transition, and thanks to Steve Young, > everyone subscribed to the old list has been added to the new list. > There were already some people who had subscribed to ccamp@ietf.org so > the list membership has grown from 647 subscribers on the old list to > 685 on the new one. You may note that this mail has been sent to both > lists to ensure no one is accidentally dropped. > > Over the next few days the IETF and alternate web pages will be changed > to point to the new list the old list will be shut down. The mail > archive for April and May is not moved over as of the now, but should be > in the next few days. For now both the old and new archives are available. > > Going forward please post all CCAMP WG mail *only* to ccamp@ietf.org. > > Thank you, > Lou (and Deborah) > > New list: ccamp@ietf.org > List information > and subscription: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > New archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/ > Old archive: https://ops.ietf.org/lists/ccamp/ccamp.2009 > > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > > From lberger@labn.net Thu Jun 18 04:38:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCE7228C2F6 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:38:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.071 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.071 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.194, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BmFatW7LO3AC for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outbound-mail-07.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-07.bluehost.com [69.89.17.207]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E859128C10F for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 04:38:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 16687 invoked by uid 0); 18 Jun 2009 11:38:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by outboundproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 18 Jun 2009 11:38:47 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=labn.net; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Identified-User; b=qS4MVZeRazawDYH+8FK6oO8VAub//cSZ6hWJa7snN9lhUtgPJiDMMRsP+ACOESGqZjLIhSaauTpCdT8kd2V6xU4NzEe9IC2rfsnF5ondGhuVXHrUkLtrfsutcXU+Gc+S; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MHFx8-0001HV-GF for ccamp@ietf.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2009 05:38:46 -0600 Message-ID: <4A3A2743.4020206@labn.net> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 07:38:43 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20090408 Eudora/3.0b2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ccamp@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Subject: [CCAMP] IPR: draft-ietf-ccamp-mpls-graceful-shutdown-10.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:38:36 -0000 All, In preparing the document writeup on the draft mentioned above, we noticed that a related IPR disclosure was filed back in 2005. As far as we remember and can tell based on searching the CCAMP archive, this IPR was never discussed or raised on the mail list. We therefore ask WG participants to review the disclosure (see https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/523/) and raise/discuss any issues they may have. If no issues are raised or left unresolved by June 30th, the chairs will pass the draft to the AD for publication on July 1. Much thanks, Lou (and Deborah) From dbrungard@att.com Mon Jun 22 08:49:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7CFC3A6943 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:49:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K2he6Q-JGktE for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:49:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail161.messagelabs.com (mail161.messagelabs.com [216.82.253.115]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37843A69EF for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:49:24 -0700 (PDT) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: dbrungard@att.com X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-161.messagelabs.com!1245685776!16909558!1 X-StarScan-Version: 6.0.0; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [144.160.20.54] Received: (qmail 2561 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2009 15:49:37 -0000 Received: from sbcsmtp7.sbc.com (HELO mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com) (144.160.20.54) by server-2.tower-161.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 22 Jun 2009 15:49:37 -0000 Received: from enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5MFnaab026382 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:49:36 -0400 Received: from gaalpa1msgusr7e.ugd.att.com (gaalpa1msgusr7e.ugd.att.com [135.53.26.19]) by mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5MFnYgN026362 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:49:34 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable x-cr-puzzleid: {094D93EE-9C08-4EF9-B2D2-2B84DFA43A0F} x-cr-hashedpuzzle: Bddi CbCY E1HM F5E7 Gfk+ HShj Juh+ LkxJ MxFb OhmP TrrS Uiql Vh47 XYDV XnU7 YTEE; 2; YwBjAGEAbQBwAEAAaQBlAHQAZgAuAG8AcgBnADsAbgBpAGMALgBuAGUAYQB0AGUAQABkAGEAdABhAGMAbwBuAG4AZQBjAHQAaQBvAG4ALgBjAG8AbQA=; Sosha1_v1; 7; {094D93EE-9C08-4EF9-B2D2-2B84DFA43A0F}; ZABiAHIAdQBuAGcAYQByAGQAQABhAHQAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==; Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:49:28 GMT; VwBoAGEAdAAgAG4AZQB4AHQAPwAgAFIARgBDADQAOAA3ADMAIABzAGUAZwBtAGUAbgB0AC0AcgBlAGMAbwByAGQAaQBuAGcALQBkAGUAcwBpAHIAZQBkACAAZgBsAGEAZwA= Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:49:28 -0400 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: What next? RFC4873 segment-recording-desired flag Thread-Index: AcnzUQaar/aHzUMMTr+fSHWa3NlxQw== From: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS" To: , "Nic Neate" Subject: [CCAMP] What next? RFC4873 segment-recording-desired flag X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:49:25 -0000 CCAMP, Nic, You may recall that Nic Neate raised the issue that the=20 segment-recording-desired flag identified in RFC4673 was never assigned=20 a value. We, the WG chairs, consequently conducted a poll to see what=20 implementations were doing about this. (See=20 http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg10169.html). The poll yielded a somewhat unexpected result: only one (informal)=20 response which said that they collect SRROs whenever RROs are present. The chairs, with agreement from the supervising AD, propose that the=20 following actions be taken to address the missing of assignment of the=20 segment-recording-desired flag identified in RFC4673: 1) That Nic (or one of the WG Chairs, if he declines to) file an errata=20 on the RFC noting the issue (see http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata.php).=20 This action should be taken independent of the next action. 2) That the authors of the RFC (which includes both one of the WG Chairs and the supervising AD) respond to the Errata by stating: (a) that the flag is unassigned and therefore cannot be used, and (b) that the collection of SRROs be controlled based on the presence of an RRO in the message being processed. Please let us know if you disagree with, or have any comments on the=20 above approach to resolving this issue. Thank you, CCAMP WG Chairs From lberger@labn.net Tue Jun 23 04:49:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C12823A67DB for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:49:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.119 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.119 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.146, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6xlKLGQTXMhQ for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:49:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outbound-mail-146.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-146.bluehost.com [67.222.38.36]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id CB4C628C2C7 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:48:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 30009 invoked by uid 0); 23 Jun 2009 11:49:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by outboundproxy5.bluehost.com with SMTP; 23 Jun 2009 11:49:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=labn.net; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Identified-User; b=Qslx5uX15FoWLsitQhVxhR1VXTDhIeGhr0PaG4IPoBoQ5UJR/jJTkGXwJDyYAJiMh/iGn5aHRGVT3sw5RAPRrzB6NeXLJZW7vmNppUdI7aPKbPQb4ST9vCaTsI2VzhbL; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MJ4Ur-0003dG-H7; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:49:05 -0600 Message-ID: <4A40C14D.8080003@labn.net> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:49:33 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20090408 Eudora/3.0b2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RFC Errata System References: <200906230946.n5N9k39P004172@boreas.isi.edu> In-Reply-To: <200906230946.n5N9k39P004172@boreas.isi.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Cc: dimitri.papadimitriou@alcatel-lucent.be, dmcw@dataconnection.com, ccamp@ietf.org, IBryskin@advaoptical.com, adrian.farrel@huawei.com, rcallon@juniper.net Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4873 (1797) X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:49:07 -0000 As a co-author, I concur that this Errata is valid and should be verified. As mentioned in the errata, the CCAMP WG will discuss this issue and may request that additional text be added to the errata. Lou On 6/23/2009 5:46 AM, RFC Errata System wrote: > The following errata report has been submitted for RFC4873, > "GMPLS Segment Recovery". > > -------------------------------------- > You may review the report below and at: > http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=4873&eid=1797 > > -------------------------------------- > Type: Technical > Reported by: David McWalter > > Section: 5.2 > > Original Text > ------------- > The collection of SRROs is controlled via the > segment-recording-desired flag in the SESSION_ATTRIBUTE object. This > flag MAY be set even when SEROs are not used. > > Corrected Text > -------------- > > > Notes > ----- > No request was made to IANA to assign a value for the segment-recording-desired flag. > > Possible solutions are under discussion on the ccamp list (22 June 2009) > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg10205.html > > Instructions: > ------------- > This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please > use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or > rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) > can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. > > -------------------------------------- > RFC4873 (draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-segment-recovery-03) > -------------------------------------- > Title : GMPLS Segment Recovery > Publication Date : May 2007 > Author(s) : L. Berger, I. Bryskin, D. Papadimitriou, A. Farrel > Category : PROPOSED STANDARD > Source : Common Control and Measurement Plane > Area : Routing > Stream : IETF > Verifying Party : IESG > > > From lizhong.jin@nsn.com Tue Jun 23 00:46:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 962193A6920 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:46:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zsTNIJbMc6bZ for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demumfd002.nsn-inter.net (demumfd002.nsn-inter.net [217.115.75.234]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9443A68A5 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demuprx017.emea.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.129.56]) by demumfd002.nsn-inter.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n5N7l28i015118 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:47:02 +0200 Received: from demuexc024.nsn-intra.net (demuexc024.nsn-intra.net [10.159.32.11]) by demuprx017.emea.nsn-intra.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n5N7kxK0010202; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:47:02 +0200 Received: from CNBEEXC006.nsn-intra.net ([10.159.192.11]) by demuexc024.nsn-intra.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:47:00 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:46:58 +0800 Message-ID: <328B9F5068825A48A4B8422A350B90476DDA99@CNBEEXC006.nsn-intra.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [CCAMP]: comments of draft-ke-ccamp-gmpls-odu0-00 Thread-Index: Acnz1ZjK49iy+fAqThSoWxvzNx3wVQ== From: "Jin, Lizhong (NSN - CN/Shanghai)" To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jun 2009 07:47:01.0230 (UTC) FILETIME=[CB1260E0:01C9F3D6] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:57:14 -0700 Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] : comments of draft-ke-ccamp-gmpls-odu0-00 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:46:50 -0000 Dear Ke & authors: The document draft-ke-ccamp-gmpls-odu0-00 is already expired. Do you = have any plan to update it? What's more, I hope this document can also include other new mapping = extensions for ODU, e.g, ODU2e map to ODU3. From web-usrn@ISI.EDU Tue Jun 23 02:47:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 528393A6E77 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:47:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -17.19 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-17.19 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.409, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_DEF_WHITELIST=-15] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T+Qe+z-qqfS2 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:47:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from boreas.isi.edu (boreas.isi.edu [128.9.160.161]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687ED3A6E75 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:47:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from boreas.isi.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by boreas.isi.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5N9k5GD004176 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:46:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from web-usrn@localhost) by boreas.isi.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n5N9k39P004172; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200906230946.n5N9k39P004172@boreas.isi.edu> To: lberger@labn.net, IBryskin@advaoptical.com, dimitri.papadimitriou@alcatel-lucent.be, adrian@olddog.co.uk, rcallon@juniper.net, adrian.farrel@huawei.com, dbrungard@att.com, lberger@labn.net From: RFC Errata System X-ISI-4-43-8-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: web-usrn@boreas.isi.edu X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:57:14 -0700 Cc: ccamp@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, dmcw@dataconnection.com Subject: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4873 (1797) X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:47:18 -0000 The following errata report has been submitted for RFC4873, "GMPLS Segment Recovery". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=4873&eid=1797 -------------------------------------- Type: Technical Reported by: David McWalter Section: 5.2 Original Text ------------- The collection of SRROs is controlled via the segment-recording-desired flag in the SESSION_ATTRIBUTE object. This flag MAY be set even when SEROs are not used. Corrected Text -------------- Notes ----- No request was made to IANA to assign a value for the segment-recording-desired flag. Possible solutions are under discussion on the ccamp list (22 June 2009) http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg10205.html Instructions: ------------- This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. -------------------------------------- RFC4873 (draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-segment-recovery-03) -------------------------------------- Title : GMPLS Segment Recovery Publication Date : May 2007 Author(s) : L. Berger, I. Bryskin, D. Papadimitriou, A. Farrel Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Common Control and Measurement Plane Area : Routing Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From Nic.Neate@metaswitch.com Tue Jun 23 03:02:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F023A6C6D for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:02:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Nh9LYf93nIrY for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:02:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from enfiets2.dataconnection.com (enfiets2.dataconnection.com [192.91.191.39]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F7E3A6C6F for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:02:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ENFIMBOX1.ad.datcon.co.uk (172.18.10.27) by enfiets2.dataconnection.com (172.18.4.22) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.375.2; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:03:16 +0100 Received: from ENFIMBOX1.ad.datcon.co.uk ([172.18.10.27]) by ENFIMBOX1.ad.datcon.co.uk ([172.18.10.27]) with mapi; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:02:36 +0100 From: Nic Neate To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS" , "ccamp@ietf.org" Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:02:34 +0100 Thread-Topic: What next? RFC4873 segment-recording-desired flag Thread-Index: AcnzUQaar/aHzUMMTr+fSHWa3NlxQwAmICTQ Message-ID: <11DE3EEC54A8A44EAD99D8C0D3FD72078E52BC812E@ENFIMBOX1.ad.datcon.co.uk> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:57:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] What next? RFC4873 segment-recording-desired flag X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:16:37 -0000 Thank you chairs. Here's the new errata: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?eid=3D1797 Nic -----Original Message----- From: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS [mailto:dbrungard@att.com]=20 Sent: 22 June 2009 16:49 To: ccamp@ietf.org; Nic Neate Subject: What next? RFC4873 segment-recording-desired flag CCAMP, Nic, You may recall that Nic Neate raised the issue that the segment-recording-d= esired flag identified in RFC4673 was never assigned a value. We, the WG c= hairs, consequently conducted a poll to see what implementations were doing= about this. (See http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg10= 169.html). The poll yielded a somewhat unexpected result: only one (informal) response= which said that they collect SRROs whenever RROs are present. The chairs, with agreement from the supervising AD, propose that the follow= ing actions be taken to address the missing of assignment of the segment-re= cording-desired flag identified in RFC4673: 1) That Nic (or one of the WG Chairs, if he declines to) file an errata on = the RFC noting the issue (see http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata.php).=20 This action should be taken independent of the next action. 2) That the authors of the RFC (which includes both one of the WG Chairs and the supervising AD) respond to the Errata by stating: (a) that the flag is unassigned and therefore cannot be used, and (b) that the collection of SRROs be controlled based on the presence of an RRO in the message being processed. Please let us know if you disagree with, or have any comments on the above = approach to resolving this issue. Thank you, CCAMP WG Chairs From diego.caviglia@ericsson.com Tue Jun 23 06:27:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DCF93A6C4D for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:27:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dc8YZ2bgoQcT for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw4.ericsson.se (mailgw4.ericsson.se [193.180.251.62]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A3993A6A2C for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:27:42 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3e-b7b99ae0000070a2-2a-4a40d55e03a6 Received: from esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw4.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id E2.A5.28834.A55D04A4; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:15:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from esealmw110.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.200.78]) by esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:03:28 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:00:44 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <328B9F5068825A48A4B8422A350B90476DDA99@CNBEEXC006.nsn-intra.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] : comments of draft-ke-ccamp-gmpls-odu0-00 thread-index: Acnz1ZjK49iy+fAqThSoWxvzNx3wVQALNNSg References: <328B9F5068825A48A4B8422A350B90476DDA99@CNBEEXC006.nsn-intra.net> From: "Diego Caviglia" To: "Jin, Lizhong (NSN - CN/Shanghai)" , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jun 2009 13:03:28.0531 (UTC) FILETIME=[00629630:01C9F403] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] : comments of draft-ke-ccamp-gmpls-odu0-00 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:27:53 -0000 Hi all, w.r.t. this subject we're going to publish soon a new ID about = the GMPLS extension needed to support the new OTN format, ODU0, = ODU2e,... BR Diego =20 __________________________________________ Diego Caviglia Strategic Product Manager Broadband Networks, PL Broadband Optical Network=20 Ericsson Telecomunicazioni S.p.A. (TEI) Via A. Negrone 1/A Office: +39 010 600 3736 16153, Genova, Italy Fax: +39 010 600 3577 Block E Level 4 Mobile: +39 335 7181762 www.ericsson.com diego.caviglia@ericsson.com This communication is confidential and intended solely for the = addressee(s). Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution = is prohibited. If you believe this message has been sent to you in = error, please notify the sender by replying to this transmission and = delete the message without disclosing it. Thank you. ________________________________ > -----Original Message----- > From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf = Of > Jin, Lizhong (NSN - CN/Shanghai) > Sent: marted=EC 23 giugno 2009 9.47 > To: ke.ming@zte.com.cn; bao.yuanlin@zte.com.cn > Cc: ccamp@ietf.org > Subject: [CCAMP] : comments of draft-ke-ccamp-gmpls-odu0-00 >=20 > Dear Ke & authors: > The document draft-ke-ccamp-gmpls-odu0-00 is already expired. Do you = have > any plan to update it? > What's more, I hope this document can also include other new mapping > extensions for ODU, e.g, ODU2e map to ODU3. > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From dbrungard@att.com Tue Jun 23 06:54:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 291C33A6AAE for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:54:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TgCxdozr4AEW for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail146.messagelabs.com (mail146.messagelabs.com [216.82.241.147]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B2F73A6A2C for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:54:55 -0700 (PDT) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: dbrungard@att.com X-Msg-Ref: server-7.tower-146.messagelabs.com!1245765310!2412479!1 X-StarScan-Version: 6.0.0; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [144.160.20.54] Received: (qmail 27580 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2009 13:55:10 -0000 Received: from sbcsmtp7.sbc.com (HELO mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com) (144.160.20.54) by server-7.tower-146.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 23 Jun 2009 13:55:10 -0000 Received: from enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5NDtA5d015976 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:55:10 -0400 Received: from gaalpa1msgusr7e.ugd.att.com (gaalpa1msgusr7e.ugd.att.com [135.53.26.19]) by mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5NDt6tP015948 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:55:06 -0400 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:55:04 -0400 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Working group last call: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ethernet-pbb-te-02.txt Thread-Index: Acn0CjXCITb9IkZkRN66rhQ0pB0+Hg== From: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS" To: Subject: [CCAMP] Working group last call: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ethernet-pbb-te-02.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:54:57 -0000 This email begins a two week working group last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ethernet-pbb-te-02.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ethernet-pbb- te-02.txt =20 Please send your comments to the list or the authors before the last call closes on July 7th. 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23 Jun 2009 19:30:06 -0000 Received: from enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5NJU5bb001930 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:30:05 -0400 Received: from gaalpa1msgusr7e.ugd.att.com (gaalpa1msgusr7e.ugd.att.com [135.53.26.19]) by mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5NJU2JG001907 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:30:03 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:30:00 -0400 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt as WG I-D Thread-Index: Acn0OP/6wNFyydfPRimXSaM5EwuGtw== From: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS" To: Subject: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt as WG I-D X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:29:58 -0000 Hi, This document has been updated based on feedback and to align with the results of the recent ITU SG15 Q6 meeting. Can you please express your opinion on the adoption of it as a WG document: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairmen ts-05.txt Thanks, Deborah and Lou From nurit.sprecher@nsn.com Tue Jun 23 13:14:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEBD83A6EEC for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:14:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.369 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.369 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.230, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FMSY+TLOiH5e for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:14:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demumfd001.nsn-inter.net (demumfd001.nsn-inter.net [217.115.75.233]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F16713A6C45 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:14:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demuprx016.emea.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.129.55]) by demumfd001.nsn-inter.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n5NKEnag030226 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:14:49 +0200 Received: from demuexc024.nsn-intra.net (demuexc024.nsn-intra.net [10.159.32.11]) by demuprx016.emea.nsn-intra.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n5NKEnTv011320; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:14:49 +0200 Received: from DEMUEXC014.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.128.25]) by demuexc024.nsn-intra.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:14:48 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:14:48 +0200 Message-ID: <077E41CFFD002C4CAB7DFA4386A53264F0ADBF@DEMUEXC014.nsn-intra.net> In-Reply-To: <292BD6E016C29243BB231D329D626C8C02756EAC@USDALSMBS05.ad3.ad.alcatel.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Working group last call:draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ethernet-pbb-te-02.txt Thread-Index: Acn0CjXCITb9IkZkRN66rhQ0pB0+HgAEim7QAAi19DA= References: <292BD6E016C29243BB231D329D626C8C02756EAC@USDALSMBS05.ad3.ad.alcatel.com> From: "Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)" To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jun 2009 20:14:48.0714 (UTC) FILETIME=[422D1EA0:01C9F43F] Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Working group last call:draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ethernet-pbb-te-02.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:14:39 -0000 Support! =20 -----Original Message----- From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:55 AM To: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] Working group last call:draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ethernet-pbb-te-02.txt This email begins a two week working group last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ethernet-pbb-te-02.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ethernet-pbb- te-02.txt =20 Please send your comments to the list or the authors before the last call closes on July 7th. _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From gregb@grotto-networking.com Tue Jun 23 14:04:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE6F28C38F for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:04:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.307 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.307 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MISSING_HEADERS=1.292] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VIffrDRnZWsX for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pro46.abac.com (pro46.abac.com [66.226.64.47]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C653A28C351 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.131] (c-71-202-41-133.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [71.202.41.133] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by pro46.abac.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5NL4eta021348 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:04:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gregb@grotto-networking.com) Message-ID: <4A414368.40203@grotto-networking.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:04:40 -0700 From: Greg Bernstein User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: ccamp@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt as WG I-D X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:04:30 -0000 As an author, I support! Greg B. BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS wrote: > Hi, > > This document has been updated based on feedback and to align with the > results of the recent ITU SG15 Q6 meeting. Can you please express your > opinion on the adoption of it as a WG document: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairmen > ts-05.txt > > Thanks, > Deborah and Lou > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > -- =================================================== Dr Greg Bernstein, Grotto Networking (510) 573-2237 From danli@huawei.com Tue Jun 23 17:05:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BAF33A690F for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:05:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.122 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.122 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.268, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.884, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DZn90lP3Hb9d for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:05:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from szxga04-in.huawei.com (unknown [119.145.14.67]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1E73A6831 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:05:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (szxga04-in [172.24.2.12]) by szxga04-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KLP00EUUUWQS6@szxga04-in.huawei.com> for ccamp@ietf.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:05:14 +0800 (CST) Received: from huawei.com ([172.24.1.24]) by szxga04-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KLP00G83UWQ8S@szxga04-in.huawei.com> for ccamp@ietf.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:05:14 +0800 (CST) Received: from l37133a ([10.70.77.54]) by szxml04-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0KLP00B5CUWQ4D@szxml04-in.huawei.com> for ccamp@ietf.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:05:14 +0800 (CST) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:05:14 +0800 From: Dan Li To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS" , ccamp@ietf.org Message-id: <005301c9f45f$73197b10$364d460a@china.huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_M+gmYoZvWbHpasn8fuGZuw)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt as WG I-D X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:05:10 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_M+gmYoZvWbHpasn8fuGZuw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Support! I'm one of the author. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS To: ccamp@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:30 AM Subject: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt as WG I-D Hi, This document has been updated based on feedback and to align with the results of the recent ITU SG15 Q6 meeting. Can you please express your opinion on the adoption of it as a WG document: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairmen ts-05.txt Thanks, Deborah and Lou _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp --Boundary_(ID_M+gmYoZvWbHpasn8fuGZuw) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Support! I'm one of the author.
 
Dan
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:30 AM
Subject: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt as WG I-D

Hi,

This document has been updated based on feedback and to align with the
results of the recent ITU SG15 Q6 meeting. Can you please express your
opinion on the adoption of it as a WG document:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairmen
ts-05.txt

Thanks,
Deborah and Lou
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--Boundary_(ID_M+gmYoZvWbHpasn8fuGZuw)-- From Senoo.Shoichiro@dc.MitsubishiElectric.co.jp Tue Jun 23 18:17:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7DE93A6F0B for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:17:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.09 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.09 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PodY7vxOkQYs for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:17:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx06.melco.co.jp (mx06.melco.co.jp [192.218.140.146]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293613A6F08 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mr06.melco.co.jp (mr06 [133.141.98.164]) by mx06.melco.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F8AF5E681 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:17:54 +0900 (JST) Received: from mr06.melco.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mr06.imss (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC2225D32 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:17:53 +0900 (JST) Received: from elgw.isl.melco.co.jp (unknown [133.141.13.130]) by mr06.melco.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA8E325D30 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:17:53 +0900 (JST) Received: from iswall2a.isl.melco.co.jp (iswall2a.isl.melco.co.jp [10.74.245.24]) by elgw.isl.melco.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACADA31F3CD for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:17:53 +0900 (JST) Received: from iswall2a.isl.melco.co.jp (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.isl.melco.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4968822CBB7 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:17:53 +0900 (JST) Received: from LeakStopper186 (stopper2.isl.melco.co.jp [10.74.245.36]) by iswall2a.isl.melco.co.jp (Postfix) with SMTP id 2435822CB5C for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:17:53 +0900 (JST) Received: (qmail 4405 invoked by uid 507); 24 Jun 2009 10:17:52 +0900 Received: from unknown (HELO ELSTEFANY) (10.74.8.38) by 0 with SMTP; 24 Jun 2009 10:16:50 +0900 From: "Shoichiro Seno" To: References: Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:16:50 +0900 Message-ID: <7264DC9CC79F4B8A9BC612A63BD36651@ad.melco.co.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-index: Acn0OP/6wNFyydfPRimXSaM5EwuGtwAMEQow In-reply-to: Cc: Senoo.Shoichiro@dc.MitsubishiElectric.co.jp Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt as WG I-D X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:17:44 -0000 I support. Sho > -----Original Message----- > From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS > Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:30 AM > To: ccamp@ietf.org > Subject: [CCAMP] Poll for > draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt as WG I-D > > Hi, > > This document has been updated based on feedback and to align with the > results of the recent ITU SG15 Q6 meeting. Can you please express your > opinion on the adoption of it as a WG document: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson > -impairmen > ts-05.txt > > Thanks, > Deborah and Lou > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > From bao.yuanlin@zte.com.cn Tue Jun 23 18:26:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22BDC3A6EFC for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:26:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -92.79 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-92.79 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, MIME_BASE64_TEXT=1.753, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, RCVD_DOUBLE_IP_LOOSE=0.76, SARE_SUB_ENC_GB2312=1.345, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X14Cgkb2C3c9 for ; 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Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:08:25 +0800 (CST) Received: from LENOVOmach ([219.237.244.130]) by szxml02-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0KLQ00LI40LWIF@szxml02-in.huawei.com>; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:08:24 +0800 (CST) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:08:26 +0800 From: Mach Chen In-reply-to: To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS" Message-id: <4600BDFCC905492DBE0E9490D943C824@LENOVOmach> Organization: Huawei MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt as WG I-D X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mach Chen List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:08:20 -0000 Support! -------------------------------------------------- From: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS" Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:30 AM To: Subject: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt asWGI-D > Hi, > > This document has been updated based on feedback and to align with the > results of the recent ITU SG15 Q6 meeting. Can you please express your > opinion on the adoption of it as a WG document: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairmen > ts-05.txt > > Thanks, > Deborah and Lou > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From mkattan@cisco.com Tue Jun 23 19:40:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD03E28C3D2 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:40:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TeYa0dXp-QVu for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-4.cisco.com (sj-iport-4.cisco.com [171.68.10.86]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD7E28C34D for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:40:48 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,279,1243814400"; d="scan'208";a="38152397" Received: from sj-dkim-2.cisco.com ([171.71.179.186]) by sj-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 24 Jun 2009 02:41:05 +0000 Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com (sj-core-5.cisco.com [171.71.177.238]) by sj-dkim-2.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n5O2f5TL032074; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:41:05 -0700 Received: from xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-221.cisco.com [128.107.191.63]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5O2f5aS005344; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:41:05 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-214.amer.cisco.com ([171.70.151.145]) by xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:41:05 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:41:04 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt asWG I-D Thread-Index: Acn0OP/6wNFyydfPRimXSaM5EwuGtwAPDBdQ References: From: "Moustafa Kattan (mkattan)" To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jun 2009 02:41:05.0259 (UTC) FILETIME=[38793BB0:01C9F475] DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=733; t=1245811265; x=1246675265; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim2002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=mkattan@cisco.com; z=From:=20=22Moustafa=20Kattan=20(mkattan)=22=20 |Subject:=20RE=3A=20[CCAMP]=20Poll=20for=20draft-bernstein- ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt=20asWG=20I-D |Sender:=20; bh=TK8TcXdjARmPgWbTRSXF7AIr4MK3TQ0mT5m85KwKa64=; b=PhM9lYf4oxF5n6pcquChSMhyDO/hF0ThCRBBSAoSZyzGKpJWBHzOqhZ3SI +Wo127sslo9oO+geoczHNJRqRRrKBxSNtwRW/9oLoMc3D7LT7ejDW8YumNJl ptQnSvl+Oa; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-2; header.From=mkattan@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim2002 verified; ); Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt asWG I-D X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:40:49 -0000 Support=20 -----Original Message----- From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:30 PM To: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt asWG I-D Hi, This document has been updated based on feedback and to align with the results of the recent ITU SG15 Q6 meeting. Can you please express your opinion on the adoption of it as a WG document: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairmen ts-05.txt Thanks, Deborah and Lou _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From i-nishioka@cb.jp.nec.com Tue Jun 23 20:59:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDBE03A6F21 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:59:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.09 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.09 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5xi4X-tk6i+e for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:59:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tyo202.gate.nec.co.jp (TYO202.gate.nec.co.jp [202.32.8.206]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB433A6F1F for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:58:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgate3.nec.co.jp ([10.7.69.195]) by tyo202.gate.nec.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n5O3xBkr014610 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:59:11 +0900 (JST) Received: (from root@localhost) by mailgate3.nec.co.jp (8.11.7/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) id n5O3xBO07492 for ccamp@ietf.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:59:11 +0900 (JST) Received: from mail02.kamome.nec.co.jp (mail02.kamome.nec.co.jp [10.25.43.5]) by mailsv4.nec.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n5O3xBmb014874 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:59:11 +0900 (JST) Received: from saigo.jp.nec.com ([10.26.220.6] [10.26.220.6]) by mail03.kamome.nec.co.jp with ESMTP id BT-MMP-58776; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:47:52 +0900 Received: from C08AUG00201 ([10.56.131.165] [10.56.131.165]) by mail.jp.nec.com with ESMTP; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:47:52 +0900 From: "Itaru Nishioka" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:47:52 +0900 Organization: NEC Message-ID: <4330DD4367FF481FB0C8691676BF3F9C@nsl.ad.nec.co.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acn0OP/6wNFyydfPRimXSaM5EwuGtwARXJew X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt asWG I-D X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: i-nishioka@cb.jp.nec.com List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:59:10 -0000 Support. Itaru. > -----Original Message----- > From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS > Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:30 AM > To: ccamp@ietf.org > Subject: [CCAMP] Poll for > draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt asWG I-D > > Hi, > > This document has been updated based on feedback and to align > with the results of the recent ITU SG15 Q6 meeting. Can you > please express your opinion on the adoption of it as a WG document: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson > -impairmen > ts-05.txt > > Thanks, > Deborah and Lou > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From xsg@nict.go.jp Tue Jun 23 21:04:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC61D3A687E for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:04:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.355 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.355 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TnoxDaeTZqsC for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.nict.go.jp (ns1.nict.go.jp [IPv6:2001:2f8:29::2]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C30C3A6F1A for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:03:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw1.nict.go.jp (gw1 [133.243.18.250]) by ns1.nict.go.jp with ESMTP id n5O449ZG026929; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:04:09 +0900 (JST) Received: from gw1.nict.go.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gw1.nict.go.jp with ESMTP id n5O449Db025865; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:04:09 +0900 (JST) Received: from mail1.nict.go.jp (mail.nict.go.jp [133.243.18.3]) by gw1.nict.go.jp with ESMTP id n5O449rm025862; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:04:09 +0900 (JST) Received: from mail1.nict.go.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.nict.go.jp (NICT Mail) with ESMTP id 81222164FA; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:04:09 +0900 (JST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ssh2.nict.go.jp [133.243.3.50]) by mail1.nict.go.jp (NICT Mail) with ESMTP id 7968F164F8; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:04:09 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <4A41A5AB.4020203@nict.go.jp> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:03:55 +0900 From: Sugang XU User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS" , ccamp@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt as WG I-D X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 04:04:10 -0000 I Support. Sugang > Hi, > > This document has been updated based on feedback and to align with the > results of the recent ITU SG15 Q6 meeting. Can you please express your > opinion on the adoption of it as a WG document: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairmen > ts-05.txt > > Thanks, > Deborah and Lou > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > From neil.2.harrison@bt.com Tue Jun 23 23:35:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461D928C436 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:35:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.200, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_21=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nW2IawKV2cap for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:35:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.smtp.bt.com (smtp2.smtp.bt.com [217.32.164.150]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1EAD3A6F43 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:35:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from E03MVB2-UKBR.domain1.systemhost.net ([193.113.197.109]) by smtp2.smtp.bt.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 24 Jun 2009 07:36:02 +0100 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 07:35:00 +0100 Message-ID: <2ECAA42C79676B42AEBAC11229CA7D0C04BE2949@E03MVB2-UKBR.domain1.systemhost.net> In-Reply-To: <292BD6E016C29243BB231D329D626C8C02756EAC@USDALSMBS05.ad3.ad.alcatel.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Working group lastcall:draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ethernet-pbb-te-02.txt Thread-Index: Acn0CjXCITb9IkZkRN66rhQ0pB0+HgAEim7QAB48lgA= From: To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jun 2009 06:36:02.0761 (UTC) FILETIME=[0B3D5390:01C9F496] Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Working group lastcall:draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ethernet-pbb-te-02.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 06:35:49 -0000 Support. regards, Neil Harrison Chief Network Operations Strategist BT Innovate Email: neil.2.harrison@bt.com Web: www.bt.com This email contains BT information, which may be privileged or confidential. 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British Telecommunications plc Registered office: 81 Newgate Street London EC1A 7AJ Registered in England no: 1800000 > -----Original Message----- > From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:55 AM > To: ccamp@ietf.org > Subject: [CCAMP] Working group last > call:draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ethernet-pbb-te-02.txt >=20 > This email begins a two week working group last call on > draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ethernet-pbb-te-02.txt >=20 > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-eth > ernet-pbb- > te-02.txt > =20 > Please send your comments to the list or the authors before the last > call closes on July 7th. > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >=20 From julien.meuric@orange-ftgroup.com Wed Jun 24 01:48:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DCD3A6F3B for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:48:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.514 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.514 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.735, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fH0-k7co1iNT for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:48:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from R-MAIL1.rd.francetelecom.com (r-mail1.rd.francetelecom.com [217.108.152.41]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7413A682D for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:48:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ftrdmel1.rd.francetelecom.fr ([10.192.128.40]) by ftrdsmtp2.rd.francetelecom.fr with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:48:12 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:48:13 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt asWG I-D Thread-Index: Acn0OP/6wNFyydfPRimXSaM5EwuGtwAb3S3w References: From: To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jun 2009 08:48:12.0851 (UTC) FILETIME=[81F10830:01C9F4A8] Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt asWG I-D X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:48:02 -0000 Hi all. I support. Julien -----Original Message----- From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS Hi, This document has been updated based on feedback and to align with the results of the recent ITU SG15 Q6 meeting. Can you please express your opinion on the adoption of it as a WG document: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairmen ts-05.txt Thanks, Deborah and Lou _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From zhangfatai@huawei.com Wed Jun 24 01:52:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE8B23A6F2C for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:52:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SzxeVdwk41zd for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from szxga01-in.huawei.com (szxga01-in.huawei.com [119.145.14.64]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 031F73A682D for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (szxga01-in [172.24.2.3]) by szxga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KLQ00MYIJBE3K@szxga01-in.huawei.com> for ccamp@ietf.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:52:27 +0800 (CST) Received: from huawei.com ([172.24.1.33]) by szxga01-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KLQ007VZJBEVZ@szxga01-in.huawei.com> for ccamp@ietf.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:52:26 +0800 (CST) Received: from z41162b ([10.70.76.91]) by szxml06-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0KLQ00MTBJB9OQ@szxml06-in.huawei.com> for ccamp@ietf.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:52:26 +0800 (CST) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:52:21 +0800 From: Fatai Zhang To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS" Message-id: <022901c9f4a9$193e3f50$5b4c460a@china.huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_wg9D6L2sngZ40tXfC9n2LA)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt as WG I-D X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:52:16 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_wg9D6L2sngZ40tXfC9n2LA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi all, I support. Thanks Fatai Advanced Technology Department Wireline Networking Business Unit Huawei Technologies Co., LTD. Huawei Base, Bantian, Longgang, Shenzhen 518129 P.R.China Tel: +86-755-28972912 Fax: +86-755-28972935 ----- Original Message ----- From: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS To: ccamp@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:30 AM Subject: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt as WG I-D Hi, This document has been updated based on feedback and to align with the results of the recent ITU SG15 Q6 meeting. Can you please express your opinion on the adoption of it as a WG document: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairmen ts-05.txt Thanks, Deborah and Lou _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp --Boundary_(ID_wg9D6L2sngZ40tXfC9n2LA) Content-type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Hi all,
 
 I support.
 
 
 
 
 
Thanks
 
Fatai
 
Advanced Technology Department
Wireline Networking Business Unit
Huawei Technologies Co., LTD.
Huawei Base, Bantian, Longgang,
Shenzhen 518129 P.R.China
Tel: +86-755-28972912
Fax: +86-755-28972935
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:30 AM
Subject: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt as WG I-D

Hi,

This document has been updated based on feedback and to align with the
results of the recent ITU SG15 Q6 meeting. Can you please express your
opinion on the adoption of it as a WG document:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairmen
ts-05.txt

Thanks,
Deborah and Lou
_______________________________________________
CCAMP mailing list
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--Boundary_(ID_wg9D6L2sngZ40tXfC9n2LA)-- From giomarti@cisco.com Wed Jun 24 02:24:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 917E73A6AE6 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:24:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0xRZ39+r90GG for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:24:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.140]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 567383A6F59 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:23:54 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,282,1243814400"; d="scan'208";a="43535327" Received: from ams-dkim-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.138]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 24 Jun 2009 09:21:59 +0000 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (ams-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.150]) by ams-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n5O9LxAU022871; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:21:59 +0200 Received: from [144.254.172.201] (mnza1-dhcp-vl250-144-254-172-201.cisco.com [144.254.172.201]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5O9LwSJ025236; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:21:59 GMT Message-ID: <4A41F037.50600@cisco.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:21:59 +0200 From: Giovanni Martinelli User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090409) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=547; t=1245835319; x=1246699319; c=relaxed/simple; s=amsdkim1002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=giomarti@cisco.com; z=From:=20Giovanni=20Martinelli=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20[CCAMP]=20Poll=20for=20draft-bernstein- ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt=0A=20as=09WG=20I-D |Sender:=20; bh=Eo/qni7h7jIYwT6Ztc5RCU16MYNVI24byDD43i/VfK4=; b=aQJkFvDX1w1Cz05l366Vn1vmf2hfFVn14XcZfFVp1W8JfdCcs+G//U9F2K 32kjyWqtVmzrnjKXNjzdZULYU8JP1urmJDbmVfsTgQ0mUSGpO38kxlLtnPop DOhm561qhC; Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-1; header.From=giomarti@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/amsdkim1002 verified; ); Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt as WG I-D X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:24:08 -0000 Support! (author) Cheers, G BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS wrote: > Hi, > > This document has been updated based on feedback and to align with the > results of the recent ITU SG15 Q6 meeting. Can you please express your > opinion on the adoption of it as a WG document: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairmen > ts-05.txt > > Thanks, > Deborah and Lou > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > From diego.caviglia@ericsson.com Wed Jun 24 03:25:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8AC3A6F64 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:25:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12H0qh9SbClH for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:25:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw3.ericsson.se (mailgw3.ericsson.se [193.180.251.60]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8F73A67FF for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:25:19 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3c-b7bdcae0000052f9-12-4a41f7734565 Received: from esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw3.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 6F.3C.21241.377F14A4; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:52:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from esealmw110.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.200.78]) by esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:52:10 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:49:25 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt asWG I-D thread-index: Acn0OP/6wNFyydfPRimXSaM5EwuGtwAeAwVg References: From: "Diego Caviglia" To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jun 2009 09:52:10.0087 (UTC) FILETIME=[711CC770:01C9F4B1] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt asWG I-D X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:25:20 -0000 I support. BR Diego =20 __________________________________________ Diego Caviglia Strategic Product Manager Broadband Networks, PL Broadband Optical Network=20 Ericsson Telecomunicazioni S.p.A. (TEI) Via A. Negrone 1/A Office: +39 010 600 3736 16153, Genova, Italy Fax: +39 010 600 3577 Block E Level 4 Mobile: +39 335 7181762 www.ericsson.com diego.caviglia@ericsson.com This communication is confidential and intended solely for the = addressee(s). Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution = is prohibited. If you believe this message has been sent to you in = error, please notify the sender by replying to this transmission and = delete the message without disclosing it. Thank you. ________________________________ > -----Original Message----- > From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf = Of > BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS > Sent: marted=EC 23 giugno 2009 21.30 > To: ccamp@ietf.org > Subject: [CCAMP] Poll for = draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt > asWG I-D >=20 > Hi, >=20 > This document has been updated based on feedback and to align with the > results of the recent ITU SG15 Q6 meeting. Can you please express your > opinion on the adoption of it as a WG document: > = http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairmen > ts-05.txt >=20 > Thanks, > Deborah and Lou > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com Wed Jun 24 03:40:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF6F28C3C3 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:40:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5ap1jQWYBWap for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw3.ericsson.se (mailgw3.ericsson.se [193.180.251.60]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2345A3A6A65 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:40:31 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3c-b7bdcae0000052f9-87-4a42027196a7 Received: from esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw3.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id CE.13.21241.172024A4; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:39:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from EITRMMW021.eemea.ericsson.se ([141.137.48.176]) by esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:39:44 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:39:23 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt as WG I-D thread-index: Acn0OP/6wNFyydfPRimXSaM5EwuGtwAfwnRk References: From: "Daniele Ceccarelli" To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jun 2009 10:39:44.0756 (UTC) FILETIME=[16A0B340:01C9F4B8] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: [CCAMP] R: Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt asWG I-D X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:40:33 -0000 I support, =20 best regards Daniele ________________________________ Da: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org per conto di BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS Inviato: mar 23/06/2009 21:30 A: ccamp@ietf.org Oggetto: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt = asWG I-D Hi, This document has been updated based on feedback and to align with the results of the recent ITU SG15 Q6 meeting. Can you please express your opinion on the adoption of it as a WG document: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairmen ts-05.txt Thanks, Deborah and Lou _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From elio.salvadori@create-net.org Wed Jun 24 04:26:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACBF13A6A69 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 04:26:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WRylndkdPkLD for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 04:26:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aurora.create-net.org (aurora.create-net.org [193.206.22.116]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D453A67CF for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 04:26:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by aurora.create-net.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA96915212; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:17:09 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at Received: from aurora.create-net.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (aurora.create-net.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bAPCKk0yM+cC; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:17:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.9.136] (unknown [192.168.254.254]) by aurora.create-net.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C2961513E; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:17:07 +0200 (CEST) From: Elio Salvadori To: ccamp , "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS" In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Organization: CREATE-NET Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:17:06 +0200 Message-Id: <1245842226.6824.5.camel@cn-salvadori> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt as WG I-D X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: elio.salvadori@create-net.org List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:26:54 -0000 I support, BR Elio On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 15:30 -0400, BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS wrote: > Hi, > > This document has been updated based on feedback and to align with the > results of the recent ITU SG15 Q6 meeting. Can you please express your > opinion on the adoption of it as a WG document: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairmen > ts-05.txt > > Thanks, > Deborah and Lou > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From andrea.zanardi@create-net.org Wed Jun 24 07:58:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 942BD3A6894 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 07:58:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uaR9bjw+ec9X for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 07:58:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aurora.create-net.org (aurora.create-net.org [193.206.22.116]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE59A3A69A3 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 07:58:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by aurora.create-net.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F03C151EB; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:57:27 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at Received: from aurora.create-net.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (aurora.create-net.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bgC8bMXDGDkt; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:57:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.9.198] (unknown [192.168.254.254]) by aurora.create-net.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A650C1503C; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:57:24 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A423ED3.5090501@create-net.org> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:57:23 +0200 From: Andrea Zanardi User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ccamp@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt as WG I-D X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:58:29 -0000 Support. Best Regards Andrea BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS wrote: > Hi, > > This document has been updated based on feedback and to align with the > results of the recent ITU SG15 Q6 meeting. Can you please express your > opinion on the adoption of it as a WG document: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairmen > ts-05.txt > > Thanks, > Deborah and Lou > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > From howard.green@ericsson.com Wed Jun 24 09:56:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBFA428C48F for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:56:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VvfIRWdPY54M for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:56:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr2.ericy.com (imr2.ericy.com [198.24.6.3]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 317B928C106 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:56:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eusrcmw750.eamcs.ericsson.se (eusrcmw750.exu.ericsson.se [138.85.77.50]) by imr2.ericy.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n5OGsWh4026690; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:54:32 -0500 Received: from EUSRCMW722.eamcs.ericsson.se ([138.85.77.22]) by eusrcmw750.eamcs.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:54:31 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:54:30 -0500 Message-ID: <011AE64ECA5C8A4C862C841357B4F93B019238E3@EUSRCMW722.eamcs.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Working group last call:draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ethernet-pbb-te-02.txt Thread-Index: Acn0CjXCITb9IkZkRN66rhQ0pB0+HgA4jCDQ References: From: "Howard Green" To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jun 2009 16:54:31.0909 (UTC) FILETIME=[7203F150:01C9F4EC] Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Working group last call:draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ethernet-pbb-te-02.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:56:11 -0000 Support Regards Howard=20 -----Original Message----- From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 6:55 AM To: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] Working group last call:draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ethernet-pbb-te-02.txt This email begins a two week working group last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ethernet-pbb-te-02.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ethernet-pbb- te-02.txt =20 Please send your comments to the list or the authors before the last call closes on July 7th. _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From gregimirsky@gmail.com Wed Jun 24 11:34:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DE0028C4D1 for ; 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Regards, Greg M. On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:30 PM, BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS < dbrungard@att.com> wrote: > Hi, > > This document has been updated based on feedback and to align with the > results of the recent ITU SG15 Q6 meeting. Can you please express your > opinion on the adoption of it as a WG document: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairmen > ts-05.txt > > Thanks, > Deborah and Lou > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > --001485f6cec85c7acd046d1c0d5b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Support.

Regards,
Greg M.

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:30 PM, BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS <dbrungard@att.com> wrote:
Hi,

This document has been updated based on feedback and to align with the
results of the recent ITU SG15 Q6 meeting. Can you please express your
opinion on the adoption of it as a WG document:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairmen
ts-05.txt

Thanks,
Deborah and Lou
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--001485f6cec85c7acd046d1c0d5b-- From moshe.aharon@gmail.com Wed Jun 24 12:20:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF7C93A6FE0 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:20:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZznYJYi7rejr for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:20:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595953A6CCE for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:20:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so961074bwz.37 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:18:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:subject :date:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:x-mimeole; bh=b6Se46hovDbt2pD01zkDt2fOwKFMMq7AT75nVjlnPXw=; b=o4oMZEHqBcUSErOU/QNikMV1OGIXMN9Ig6BPg55jg3ljXomuQ3x615aCRgDqxdsBRZ NVlyvJZRtdjW34TJUXLuXNp2LwLzE0m2SJJuXcgpv9ZWXYw9fVvPPAUocipAH1Z6U9uc 2HCxnaidlWMtY+duOPkMrB+v5lucjQbdkf7wM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer :thread-index:x-mimeole; b=gs0ETTpxS90D8OLt0EYKikwREiBt8hngS8TzfAhpL7UCABv1LxXlyPX0UhDfr/kAHq mpVMuULPxMzsf//f2qYtOkAFEAbRwouw4RB6j+bZN8HnrPNQZm25jmUD+6kuhlaRGfoE lHudM5Wyj4v6tCztiFzMYxMgw1NoOu8D9B2ZM= Received: by 10.103.220.18 with SMTP id x18mr977542muq.24.1245871084291; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:18:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DJ13MF2J ([77.127.44.91]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n7sm7339337mue.58.2009.06.24.12.18.02 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:18:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4a427beb.07a5660a.43cb.24f2@mx.google.com> From: "moshe aharon" To: Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:17:59 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004E_01C9F519.A4F5F5E0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: Acn1AHw7yhRCCDHjQdWgPNqd+pT7PA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt as WG I-D X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:20:15 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C9F519.A4F5F5E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Support. /Moshe * To: ietf.org> * Subject: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt as WG I-D * From: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS" > * Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:30:00 -0400 * Delivered-to: ccamp at core3.amsl.com * List-archive: * List-help: * List-id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group * List-post: * List-subscribe: , * List-unsubscribe: , * Thread-index: Acn0OP/6wNFyydfPRimXSaM5EwuGtw== * Thread-topic: Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt as WG I-D _____ Hi, This document has been updated based on feedback and to align with the results of the recent ITU SG15 Q6 meeting. Can you please express your opinion on the adoption of it as a WG document: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairmen ts-05.txt Thanks, Deborah and Lou ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C9F519.A4F5F5E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Hi,

This document has been updated based on feedback and to align with the
results of the recent ITU SG15 Q6 meeting. Can you please express your
opinion on the adoption of it as a WG document:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bernstein-ccamp-=
wson-impairmen
ts-05.txt

Thanks,
Deborah and Lou
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C9F519.A4F5F5E0-- From ylee@huawei.com Wed Jun 24 18:44:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 843D63A6D86 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:44:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TH9bsEwwY6OJ for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usaga03-in.huawei.com (usaga03-in.huawei.com [206.16.17.220]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FDAA3A685A for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (usaga03-in [172.18.4.17]) by usaga03-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KLR00LKGU4SYY@usaga03-in.huawei.com> for ccamp@ietf.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:43:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from L73682 (n11648177058.netvigator.com [116.48.177.58]) by usaga03-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0KLR00JM8U4GE5@usaga03-in.huawei.com> for ccamp@ietf.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:43:39 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:43:12 +0800 From: Young Lee In-reply-to: To: "'BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS'" , ccamp@ietf.org Message-id: <005101c9f536$5392ab90$3ab13074@china.huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thread-index: Acn0OP/6wNFyydfPRimXSaM5EwuGtwA/UQ+A References: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt as WG I-D X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:44:38 -0000 Support. Young (Co-author) -----Original Message----- From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:30 AM To: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt as WG I-D Hi, This document has been updated based on feedback and to align with the results of the recent ITU SG15 Q6 meeting. Can you please express your opinion on the adoption of it as a WG document: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairmen ts-05.txt Thanks, Deborah and Lou _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From Attila.Takacs@ericsson.com Wed Jun 24 23:38:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D793A6997 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:38:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NEV-TB2+vcLE for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:38:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw4.ericsson.se (mailgw4.ericsson.se [193.180.251.62]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12CDC3A6802 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:38:15 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3e-b7be1ae000004757-68-4a431023d846 Received: from esealmw126.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw4.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 5A.09.18263.320134A4; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:50:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from esealmw116.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.200.7]) by esealmw126.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:50:26 +0200 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:50:26 +0200 Message-ID: <53CCFDD6E346CB43994852666C210E9107993414@esealmw116.eemea.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt asWG I-D Thread-Index: Acn0OP/6wNFyydfPRimXSaM5EwuGtwBH827g References: From: "Attila Takacs" To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jun 2009 05:50:26.0630 (UTC) FILETIME=[D6CA9E60:01C9F558] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt asWG I-D X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:38:17 -0000 Support. Attila=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org]=20 > On Behalf Of BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:30 PM > To: ccamp@ietf.org > Subject: [CCAMP] Poll for=20 > draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt asWG I-D >=20 > Hi, >=20 > This document has been updated based on feedback and to align=20 > with the results of the recent ITU SG15 Q6 meeting. Can you=20 > please express your opinion on the adoption of it as a WG document: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson > -impairmen > ts-05.txt >=20 > Thanks, > Deborah and Lou > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >=20 From adrian@olddog.co.uk Thu Jun 25 01:34:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABDC13A6896 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:34:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2YgsD6t8Yk+7 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (asmtp1.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.248]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3806C28C0DE for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:33:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5P8WfHt021599; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:32:46 +0100 Received: from your029b8cecfe (88-97-23-122.dsl.zen.co.uk [88.97.23.122]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n5P8WdOO021583; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:32:40 +0100 Message-ID: <0B9BFADB484B42B5A42D93638BF46A04@your029b8cecfe> From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "Lou Berger" References: <200906230946.n5N9k39P004172@boreas.isi.edu> <4A40C14D.8080003@labn.net> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:32:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Cc: dimitri.papadimitriou@alcatel-lucent.be, dmcw@dataconnection.com, ccamp@ietf.org, IBryskin@advaoptical.com, rcallon@juniper.net Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4873 (1797) X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Adrian Farrel List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:34:10 -0000 Lou, This sounds like... "Please don't verify this erratum until the CCAMP working group has discussed it and the chairs have given their acknowledgement that their is consensus and have supplied any additional text that should be included" I will wait accordingly. Adrian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lou Berger" To: "RFC Errata System" Cc: ; ; ; ; ; ; ; Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4873 (1797) > As a co-author, I concur that this Errata is valid and should be > verified. As mentioned in the errata, the CCAMP WG will discuss this > issue and may request that additional text be added to the errata. > > Lou > > On 6/23/2009 5:46 AM, RFC Errata System wrote: >> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC4873, >> "GMPLS Segment Recovery". >> >> -------------------------------------- >> You may review the report below and at: >> http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=4873&eid=1797 >> >> -------------------------------------- >> Type: Technical >> Reported by: David McWalter >> >> Section: 5.2 >> >> Original Text >> ------------- >> The collection of SRROs is controlled via the >> segment-recording-desired flag in the SESSION_ATTRIBUTE object. This >> flag MAY be set even when SEROs are not used. >> >> Corrected Text >> -------------- >> >> >> Notes >> ----- >> No request was made to IANA to assign a value for the >> segment-recording-desired flag. >> >> Possible solutions are under discussion on the ccamp list (22 June 2009) >> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg10205.html >> >> Instructions: >> ------------- >> This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please >> use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or >> rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) >> can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. >> >> -------------------------------------- >> RFC4873 (draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-segment-recovery-03) >> -------------------------------------- >> Title : GMPLS Segment Recovery >> Publication Date : May 2007 >> Author(s) : L. Berger, I. Bryskin, D. Papadimitriou, A. Farrel >> Category : PROPOSED STANDARD >> Source : Common Control and Measurement Plane >> Area : Routing >> Stream : IETF >> Verifying Party : IESG >> >> >> > From loa@pi.nu Thu Jun 25 07:41:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8633C3A6A72 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:41:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.502 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.502 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.097, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9qdhT-YGX-C4 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:41:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.pi.nu (mail.pi.nu [194.71.127.148]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 892703A685D for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:41:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (h133n2fls33o883.telia.com [217.208.62.133]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by mail.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BD940D4053; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:30:13 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A4389F3.2010304@pi.nu> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:30:11 +0200 From: Loa Andersson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt as WG I-D X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:41:46 -0000 support /Loa BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS wrote: > Hi, > > This document has been updated based on feedback and to align with the > results of the recent ITU SG15 Q6 meeting. Can you please express your > opinion on the adoption of it as a WG document: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairmen > ts-05.txt > > Thanks, > Deborah and Lou > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp -- Loa Andersson Sr Strategy and Standards Manager phone: +46 10 717 52 13 Ericsson /// +46 767 72 92 13 email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com loa@pi.nu From DALLAN@nortel.com Thu Jun 25 07:56:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2CF3A6DCA for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:56:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yeJ3szbjOHcZ for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:56:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zcars04e.nortel.com (zcars04e.nortel.com [47.129.242.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 611763A6D92 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:56:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zcarhxm2.corp.nortel.com (zcarhxm2.corp.nortel.com [47.129.230.99]) by zcars04e.nortel.com (Switch-2.2.0/Switch-2.2.0) with ESMTP id n5PErC523568; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:53:12 GMT X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:54:39 -0400 Message-ID: <87AC5F88F03E6249AEA68D40BD3E00BE193A8992@zcarhxm2.corp.nortel.com> In-Reply-To: <292BD6E016C29243BB231D329D626C8C02756EAC@USDALSMBS05.ad3.ad.alcatel.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Working group lastcall:draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ethernet-pbb-te-02.txt Thread-Index: Acn0CjXCITb9IkZkRN66rhQ0pB0+HgAEim7QAGB1YXA= References: <292BD6E016C29243BB231D329D626C8C02756EAC@USDALSMBS05.ad3.ad.alcatel.com> From: "David Allan" To: "FEDYK Don" , "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS" , Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Working group lastcall:draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ethernet-pbb-te-02.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:56:22 -0000 Hi Don, Deborah & co... Three minor comments.... Section 4.1.1 2nd para: "easier to achieve when the connectivity is know in advance..." should be "known" Section 5 A possible error is that the destination switch has exhausted the set of VIDs available for 802.1Qay operation. E.g. the number of VIDs allocated to 802.1Qay operation is actually less than the number of NNIs on the destination switch, hence an ERO could arrive in a request that could not be satisfied even with shared forwarding. It would be useful to have an error code for this situation. Another is that in shared forwarding the combination of ERO and upstream label or ERO and destination offered label could be invalid given the pre-existing connection state. It would be useful to have an error to explicitly call that out. Cheers Dave -----Original Message----- From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:55 AM To: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] Working group last call:draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ethernet-pbb-te-02.txt This email begins a two week working group last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ethernet-pbb-te-02.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ethernet-pbb- te-02.txt =20 Please send your comments to the list or the authors before the last call closes on July 7th. _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From Robert.Rennison@ecitele.com Thu Jun 25 08:41:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CFF03A6DED for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:41:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C2CkPZawcEuX for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ilptiron01.ecitele.com (ilptiron01.ecitele.com [147.234.242.161]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7539A3A6D51 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown (HELO ILPTAM01.ecitele.com) ([147.234.244.44]) by ilptiron01.ecitele.com with ESMTP; 25 Jun 2009 18:30:01 +0300 Received: from ilptexch01.ecitele.com ([172.31.244.40]) by ILPTAM01.ecitele.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:34:23 +0300 Received: from ilptextms01.ecitele.com (147.234.245.175) by ilptexch01.ecitele.com (172.31.244.40) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.375.2; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:34:23 +0300 Received: from USPITMAIL02.ecitele.com ([10.0.0.30]) by ilptextms01.ecitele.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:34:22 +0300 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:34:18 -0400 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt as WG I-D Thread-Index: Acn1ox/LxcW/f/UNRu+p4M5EKy4E4AABybMA References: <4A4389F3.2010304@pi.nu> From: Robert Rennison To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jun 2009 15:34:22.0923 (UTC) FILETIME=[6A0CA9B0:01C9F5AA] Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt as WG I-D X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:41:51 -0000 Support, Rob=20 >=20 > BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS wrote: > > Hi, > >=20 > > This document has been updated based on feedback and to=20 > align with the > > results of the recent ITU SG15 Q6 meeting. 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Juni 2009 21:30 An: ccamp@ietf.org Betreff: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt = asWG I-D Hi, This document has been updated based on feedback and to align with the results of the recent ITU SG15 Q6 meeting. Can you please express your opinion on the adoption of it as a WG document: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairmen ts-05.txt Thanks, Deborah and Lou _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From jonas.martensson@acreo.se Fri Jun 26 06:20:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CDA23A6A44 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:20:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.29 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.29 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DK=1.009, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MMxdW01nGh1r for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:20:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dkcphmx24.softcom.dk (dkcphmx24.softcom.dk [194.192.15.188]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2637C3A6B21 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:20:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17662 invoked by uid 74); 26 Jun 2009 13:20:49 -0000 Received: from mail.acreo.se (217.151.195.216) by dkcphmx24.softcom.dk (envelope-from ) with ESMTP. tag msg.1246022449.691173.1727 (Processed in 0.112368 secs); 26 Jun 2009 13:20:49 -0000 X-SoftScan-Status: clean X-Secure-TLS: Yes, message received through TLS by dkcphmx24.softcom.dk (RC4-MD5) Received: from mail.acreo.se (HELO mail.acreo.se) (217.151.195.216) by dkcphmx24.softcom.dk over TLS secured channel with (RC4-MD5 encrypted) ESMTPS; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:20:49 +0200 Received: from acreoexc01.ad.acreo.se ([10.4.148.12]) by acreoexc01.ad.acreo.se ([10.4.148.12]) with mapi; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:20:29 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jonas_M=E5rtensson?= To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS" , "ccamp@ietf.org" Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:20:28 +0200 Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt as WG I-D Thread-Index: Acn0OP/6wNFyydfPRimXSaM5EwuGtwCJ8mrg Message-ID: <1EC35EEAF3A9FA439C7D6AE45BF4378701053D0CA24D@acreoexc01.ad.acreo.se> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt as WG I-D X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:20:51 -0000 I support. /Jonas=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org]=20 > On Behalf Of BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS > Sent: den 23 juni 2009 21:30 > To: ccamp@ietf.org > Subject: [CCAMP] Poll for=20 > draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt as WG I-D >=20 > Hi, >=20 > This document has been updated based on feedback and to align=20 > with the results of the recent ITU SG15 Q6 meeting. Can you=20 > please express your opinion on the adoption of it as a WG document: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson > -impairmen > ts-05.txt >=20 > Thanks, > Deborah and Lou > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >=20 > = From loa@pi.nu Fri Jun 26 06:29:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C315E3A6B11; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:29:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.512 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.512 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.087, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BzIK149a5syn; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.pi.nu (mail.pi.nu [194.71.127.148]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ED5E3A6B22; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:29:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (h133n2fls33o883.telia.com [217.208.62.133]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by mail.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 997E3D4048; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:29:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A44CD4E.1020901@pi.nu> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:29:50 +0200 From: Loa Andersson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mpls@ietf.org, mpls-tp@ietf.org, pwe3@ietf.org, ccamp@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [CCAMP] Working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-nm-req-02.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:29:44 -0000 All, this is to start a working gorup last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-nm-req-02.txt The draft was wg lasted called earlier and has now been updated according to comments. Please direct your comments to the mpls-tp@ietf.org mailing list, i.e. don't just reply to this mail. The working group last call will end COB July 10. /Loa -- Loa Andersson Sr Strategy and Standards Manager phone: +46 10 717 52 13 Ericsson /// +46 767 72 92 13 email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com loa@pi.nu From jcucchiara@mindspring.com Fri Jun 26 06:31:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9F843A6B38 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:31:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zvqX8XMiBdoE for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:31:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BAF53A6B47 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:31:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=JRYTmaLMRDpYGB2HK0vDDfoZIGWmQyju+a1tyF29o28HbzuzI1/Qmp3WjVDCMdJt; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:Cc:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [141.154.113.171] (helo=JoanPC) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MKBWG-00033p-HP; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:31:09 -0400 Message-ID: <01d401c9f662$a5437820$6501a8c0@JoanPC> From: "Joan Cucchiara" To: "Tomohiro Otani" , , , References: <49F8E7CA.6010902@labn.net> <00c601c9ca3e$347d4da0$6501a8c0@JoanPC> <49FAD79A.2090805@labn.net> <015c01c9d22e$13963730$6501a8c0@JoanPC> <4A40C6DD.2000002@labn.net> <00a401c9f4ce$aa644c70$6501a8c0@JoanPC> <4A422E0C.7090906@labn.net> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:33:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-ELNK-Trace: 4d68bbe9cb71969ea344cf2d1a8e60840a9da525759e26540f3a8901f4002a2d71737519944bd511b07bc47b65cfebd7350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 141.154.113.171 Cc: "Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" , ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] MIB Dr. review of draft-ietf-gmpls-ted-mib-5.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:31:04 -0000 Hello, Very interesting MIB! A good deal of thought went into this. Thanks for that! First, the MIB compiler output will be given. Followed by a general discussion and then specific comments given which are in order of the document. Thanks, -Joan MIB Compiler output: ======================= smicngPRO ---------- * (NIT) Unable to abstract MIB Module using mstrip tool. E: f(TED-MIB.my), (460,4) Index item "teLocalIntAddrIndex" must be defined with syntax that includes a range E: f(TED-MIB.my), (518,49) Index item "teRemoteIntAddrIndex" must be defined with syntax that includes a range E: f(TED-MIB.my), (579,53) Index item "teSwCapIndex" must be defined with syntax that includes a range E: f(TED-MIB.my), (765,53) Index item "teSrlgIndex" must be defined with syntax that includes a range W: f(TED-MIB.my), (797,9) Variable "teAreaId" in notification "tedTeInfoStatusChange" is an index for a table W: f(TED-MIB.my), (797,19) Variable "teRouterId" in notification "tedTeInfoStatusChange" is an index for a table W: f(TED-MIB.my), (797,31) Variable "teLinkStateId" in notification "tedTeInfoStatusChange" is an index for a table W: f(TED-MIB.my), (809,9) Variable "teAreaId" in notification "tedTeCreation" is an index for a table W: f(TED-MIB.my), (809,19) Variable "teRouterId" in notification "tedTeCreation" is an index for a table W: f(TED-MIB.my), (809,31) Variable "teLinkStateId" in notification "tedTeCreation" is an index for a table W: f(TED-MIB.my), (819,9) Variable "teAreaId" in notification "tedTeDeletion" is an index for a table W: f(TED-MIB.my), (819,19) Variable "teRouterId" in notification "tedTeDeletion" is an index for a table W: f(TED-MIB.my), (819,31) Variable "teLinkStateId" in notification "tedTeDeletion" is an index for a table W: f(TED-MIB.my), (926,7) NOTIFICATION-GROUP "tedNotificationGroup" is not used in a MODULE-COMPLIANCE in current module smiLint ------------ Validation report File: TED-MIB.my Severity level requested: 6 Line Severity Problem 109 5 warning: index element `teAreaId' of row `tedEntry' should be not-accessible in SMIv2 MIB 5 warning: index element `teRouterId' of row `tedEntry' should be not-accessible in SMIv2 MIB 5 warning: index element `teLinkStateId' of row `tedEntry' should be not-accessible in SMIv2 MIB 926 5 warning: current group `tedNotificationGroup' is not referenced in this module General Discussion ------------------ * As an fyi, the OSPFv3 MIB (for IPv6) is "IESG Evaluation". * In what GMPLS WG document is this functionality defined? I see a lot of MIBs referenced in MPLS, OSPF, ISIS and GMPLS and also a lot of documents being referenced, but not a specific TED one. * The MIB objects themselves do not have any REFERENCE clauses and most of these probably should given the nature of this MIB (i.e. that it is pulling from so many different documents.) Please be specific in your REFERENCE clauses such as document, section, and sub-section, if appropriate. * The names in this MIB are not prefixed consistently. Please see Appendix C of RFC4181. For example, TED-MIB is the MIB's name, and then TedEntry, but the objects in this table are prefixed by "te" (but "ted" would be more consistent.) - The abbreviation for interface is "int" but would prefer either "if" or "intf". * With the exception of 2 objects, the MIB consists of read-only objects. While this is fine in and of itself, there are several places in the text that the authors warn that if local configuration is done then routing needs to be triggered so the new configuration gets dispersed. When looking at these MIB tables, is there any way to tell if the information is currently in use or not? Specific Comments (in order of document) ------------------------------------------ * Table of Contents s/Author's Address/Authors' Addresses/ * TOC is missing "Informative References" entry. * 2. Introduction NIT: s/related with/related to/ * In what GMPLS WG document is the functionality of TED defined? 4. Motivations * Why is ISIS not mentioned here? 6. Example of TED MIB module usage s/module usage/Module Usage/ * Second paragraph "TE MIB" s/TE MIB/TED MIB/ The second paragraph is confusing. The Tables reflect information as read only, yet, this paragraph discusses changing this information locally (e.g. on a router) and then triggering routing to update this information. The example given is confusing. What are the index values supposed to be? MIB MODULE ------------- * Please differentiate values as XXX or YYY for the rfc editor. * as suggested by Appendix D of RFC4181 (Guidelines for MIB Documents) the oid layout should be: xxxMIB | +-- xxxNotifications(0) +-- xxxObjects(1) +-- xxxConformance(2) | +-- xxxCompliances(1) +-- xxxGroups(2) This OID layout is: - tedMIB \-v-0 tedNotifications |-1 tedObjects \-2 tedConformance \-v-1 tedGroups \-2 tedCompliances Groups and Compliances should be reversed. * Additionally there are extraneous sub-ids of tedScalars and tedTables under the tedObjects branch. While many older MIBs separated scalars and tables this way, this is not needed and while fine for the MIB as it exists currently, if this MIB is added to in the future (e.g. if an enterprise MIB developer wants to add objects via his/her own enterprise MIB Module), then keeping the separation of scalars and tables may be a hinderance. I would ask that you remove these sub-ids (tedScalars and tedTables) so that the oidtree will look like: |-1 tedObjects | \-1 tedNotificationEnabled, TruthValue[SNMPv2-TC], rw, current | \-2 tedNotificationMaxRate, Unsigned32, rw, current \-3 tedTable | \---1 tedEntry, INDEX{ teAreaId,teRouterId,teLinkStateId } | \-v-1 teAreaId, Unsigned32(1..4294967295), ro, current etc. * tedNotificationEnabled Why is this object needed? Please answer the question wrt rfc3413. * tedNotificationMaxRate This one throttling mechanism is used to control 3 different notifications. This might be okay, but that depends on the notifications and as they are written now, they seem to be overlapping. For example, if a TED is created then are 2 notifications sent (one ofr StatusChange and one for Creation) or just one (for Creation)? * teLinkInformationData The DESCRIPTION mentions the "teLinkTable of TE-LINK-STD-MIB", could you please tell me what draft or rfc this is? What about OSPFv3 and other protocols that may be related to this MIB (at some point?) Are you sure that this object is going to be useful (even in the short-term?) * Notifications The descriptions are very unclear. Under what circumstances are these generated? Please be specific. * Conformance statements are missing the restrictions for IpAddress and IpAddressType objects in this MIB. Please correct this. * ReadOnly Compliance is incorrect. There are 2 writable objects which need to be given read-only conformance. * 8. Security consideration s/consideration/Considerations/ - The first paragraph states there aren't any read-write objects but this is not accurate. Please update. From sunwq@MIT.EDU Fri Jun 26 06:43:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260803A6B25 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:43:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gCv5RZY4Gr8x for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:43:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from biscayne-one-station.mit.edu (BISCAYNE-ONE-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.7.80]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9493A6AF5 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:43:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (OUTGOING-AUTH.MIT.EDU [18.7.22.103]) by biscayne-one-station.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.9.2) with ESMTP id n5QDhn3g014425; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:43:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from WeiqiangSunPC (3.155.38.58.broad.xw.sh.dynamic.163data.com.cn [58.38.155.3] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as sunwq@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.12.4) with ESMTP id n5QDhT6f011950 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:43:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4B505C0CF22B42099694195968CA208F@mit.edu> From: "Weiqiang Sun" To: Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:41:38 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.42 Cc: Weiqiang Sun Subject: [CCAMP] Fw: New Version Notification for draft-sun-ccamp-dpm-00 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:43:35 -0000 Hi all, We have uploaded a new internet draft. This draft addresses considerable number of requests from the WG to measure data path related metrics, to complement the dppm draft. We will also update the dppm draft shortly to reflect this progress. Special thanks to Adrian and Lou for their help and comments. The URL of the new draft: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sun-ccamp-dpm-00.txt Comments and suggestions are welcome. Best regards, -authors -------------------------------------------------- From: "IETF I-D Submission Tool" Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:25 PM > > A new version of I-D, draft-sun-ccamp-dpm-00.txt has been successfuly > submitted by Weiqiang Sun and posted to the IETF repository. > > Filename: draft-sun-ccamp-dpm > Revision: 00 > Title: Label Switched Path (LSP) Data Path Delay Metric in Generalized > MPLS/ MPLS-TE Networks > Creation_date: 2009-06-24 > WG ID: Independent Submission > Number_of_pages: 26 > > Abstract: > When setting up a label switched path (LSP) in Generalized MPLS and > MPLS/TE networks, the completion of the signaling process does not > necessarily mean that the cross connection along the LSP have been > programmed accordingly and in a timely manner. Meanwhile, the > completion of signaling process may be used by applications as > indication that data path has become usable. The existence of this > delay and the possible failure of cross connection programming, if > not properly treated, will result in data loss or even application > failure. Characterization of this performance can thus help > designers to improve the application model and to build more robust > applications. This document defines a series of performance metrics > to evaluate the availability of data path in the signaling process. > > > > The IETF Secretariat. > > > From benoit.c.tremblay@ericsson.com Fri Jun 26 07:04:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED3B3A6B91 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:04:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.686 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.686 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=1.778, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTTP_ESCAPED_HOST=0.134, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MloAc2yjWmM2 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr1.ericy.com (imr1.ericy.com [198.24.6.9]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B51463A6B89 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:04:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eusrcmw751.eamcs.ericsson.se (eusrcmw751.exu.ericsson.se [138.85.77.51]) by imr1.ericy.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n5QE47cl017125 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:04:07 -0500 Received: from ecamlmw720.eamcs.ericsson.se ([142.133.1.72]) by eusrcmw751.eamcs.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:04:06 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C9F666.F7C969BF"; type="multipart/alternative" Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:04:06 -0400 Message-ID: <35815C929B41D2479A224FE098A272270777869D@ecamlmw720.eamcs.ericsson.se> X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: index field in draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-traffic-parameters Thread-Index: Acn2Zp2rW8ztw7gCTaWaTn2hTpj66QAAEDgw From: "Benoit C Tremblay" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jun 2009 14:04:06.0634 (UTC) FILETIME=[F81A4CA0:01C9F666] Subject: [CCAMP] index field in draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-traffic-parameters X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:04:31 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9F666.F7C969BF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_002_01C9F666.F7C969BF" ------_=_NextPart_002_01C9F666.F7C969BF Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Hello Dimitri, >=20 > I have further comments on the section decribing the index field. >=20 > 1) There is a reference to an expired draft = (draft-minei-diffserv-te-multi-class). It should be removed. =20 >=20 > 2) The requirement that "the index field value MUST correspond to at = least one of the index values included in the CLASSTYPE object" is a bit = problematic as a single CLASSTYPE object can be present in a PATH = message and a single classtype can be represented with this object. The = requirement would then exclude the possibility to insert multiple = bandwidth profile TLVs in the SENDER_TSPEC. I suggest that this = requirement should be conditional to the presence of thhe CLASSTYPE = object. If a CLASSTYPE object is present, then a single BW profile TLV = shall be present and the index value must be the CT defined in the = CLASSTYPE object. If no CLASSTYPE object is present, multiple BW = profile TLV (up to 8) can be present and the index value either = represent a CT (values in [0, 7]) or a predefined set of CT (values in = [8, 247]). >=20 > 3) Also, it should be clarified that the 240 pre-defined sets of CTs = are not standard. The following text is proposed to be included : > "To ensure coherent operation, the network administrator MUST = configure exactly the same pre-defined CT sets on all LSRs of the GMPLS = domain. Proper configuration needs also to be agreed between = administrative domains if this feature is used over UNI. The mean to = pre-configured those sets and their definitions are out of scope of this = specification. " >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Benoit >=20 > > <>=20 > Benoit Tremblay > Broadband and Systems Research > Ericsson Canada > 8400 D=E9carie Mount-Royal > Tel: +1 514 345-7900 x45064 > Cell.: +1 514 501-0236 > Fax: +1 514 345-6105 > mailto: Benoit.c.Tremblay@ericsson.com >=20 >=20 ------_=_NextPart_002_01C9F666.F7C969BF Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable index field in = draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-traffic-parameters

Hello Dimitri,

I have further comments on the section = decribing the index field.

1) There is a reference to an expired = draft (draft-minei-diffserv-te-multi-class).  It should be = removed. 

2) The requirement that "the index = field value MUST correspond to at least one of the index values included = in the CLASSTYPE object" is a bit problematic as a single CLASSTYPE = object can be present in a PATH message and a single classtype can be = represented with this object. The requirement would then exclude the = possibility to insert multiple bandwidth profile TLVs in the = SENDER_TSPEC.  I suggest that this requirement should be = conditional to the presence of thhe CLASSTYPE object.  If a = CLASSTYPE object is present, then a single BW profile TLV shall be = present and the index value must be the CT defined in the CLASSTYPE = object.  If no CLASSTYPE object is present, multiple BW profile TLV = (up to 8) can be present and the index value either represent a CT = (values in [0, 7]) or a predefined set of CT (values in [8, = 247]).

3) Also, it should be clarified that = the 240 pre-defined sets of CTs are not standard.  The following = text is proposed to be included :

"To ensure coherent operation, the network = administrator MUST = configure exactly the same = pre-defined CT sets on all LSRs of the GMPLS domain. Proper configuration needs also = to be agreed between administrative domains if this feature is used over = UNI. The mean to pre-configured those sets and their definitions are out = of scope of this specification. "

Regards,

Benoit

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Tel: +1 514 345-7900 x45064
Cell.: +1 514 501-0236
Fax: +1 514 345-6105
mailto: = Benoit.c.Tremblay@ericsson.com


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//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////P//z7iaknQ3 kmcqwKmJ////////AA== ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9F666.F7C969BF-- From Dimitri.Papadimitriou@alcatel-lucent.be Fri Jun 26 07:25:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA3833A67DF for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:25:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 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<35815C929B41D2479A224FE098A2722707778698@ecamlmw720.eamcs.ericsson.se> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: index field in draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-traffic-parameters Thread-Index: Acn2Zp2rW8ztw7gCTaWaTn2hTpj66QAAE1Bw References: <35815C929B41D2479A224FE098A2722707778698@ecamlmw720.eamcs.ericsson.se> From: "PAPADIMITRIOU Dimitri" To: "Benoit C Tremblay" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jun 2009 14:25:38.0995 (UTC) FILETIME=[FA68F030:01C9F669] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 155.132.188.83 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] index field in draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-traffic-parameters X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:25:27 -0000 =20 Hi Benoit,=20 see in-line for the answers: ________________________________ From: Benoit C Tremblay [mailto:benoit.c.tremblay@ericsson.com]=20 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 4:02 PM To: PAPADIMITRIOU Dimitri; ccamp@ops.ietf.org Subject: index field in draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-traffic-parameters =09 =09 Hello Dimitri,=20 I have further comments on the section decribing the index field.=20 1) There is a reference to an expired draft = (draft-minei-diffserv-te-multi-class). It should be removed. =20 I am not sure how to deal with this - remove is not an option (as the = doc. makes use of an object of that ref.) You will find a version here = 2) The requirement that "the index field value MUST correspond to at = least one of the index values included in the CLASSTYPE object" is a bit = problematic as a single CLASSTYPE object can be present in a PATH = message and a single classtype can be represented with this object. The = requirement would then exclude the possibility to insert multiple = bandwidth profile TLVs in the SENDER_TSPEC. I suggest that this = requirement should be conditional to the presence of thhe CLASSTYPE = object. If a CLASSTYPE object is present, then a single BW profile TLV = shall be present and the index value must be the CT defined in the = CLASSTYPE object. If no CLASSTYPE object is present, multiple BW = profile TLV (up to 8) can be present and the index value either = represent a CT (values in [0, 7]) or a predefined set of CT (values in = [8, 247]). It is exactly the reason for using the EXTENDED version of the = CLASSTYPE. Note that the latter option does not apply (cf. MUST) when = used.=20 Also important to remember the BW per CTi field MAY be used for = bandwidth accounting purposes (the BW per CTi does not replace the TSPEC = BW sub-TLV i.e. "The Ethernet SENDER_TSPEC object MAY include more than = one Ethernet Bandwidth Profile TLV"). 3) Also, it should be clarified that the 240 pre-defined sets of CTs = are not standard. The following text is proposed to be included : I will the first sentence, the other should be included in i-d's making = use of these traffic parameters. Thanks, -dimitri. "To ensure coherent operation, the network administrator MUST configure = exactly the same pre-defined CT sets on all LSRs of the GMPLS domain. = Proper configuration needs also to be agreed between administrative = domains if this feature is used over UNI. The mean to pre-configured = those sets and their definitions are out of scope of this specification. = " Regards,=20 Benoit=20 Picture (Metafile)=20 Benoit Tremblay=20 Broadband and Systems Research=20 Ericsson Canada=20 8400 D=E9carie Mount-Royal=20 Tel: +1 514 345-7900 x45064=20 Cell.: +1 514 501-0236=20 Fax: +1 514 345-6105=20 mailto: Benoit.c.Tremblay@ericsson.com=20 From benoit.c.tremblay@ericsson.com Fri Jun 26 08:27:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 918AF3A6A6D for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:27:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.143 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.143 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.457, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RXQ6pdOPsi2l for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr1.ericy.com (imr1.ericy.com [198.24.6.9]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7B83A69C2 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eusrcmw751.eamcs.ericsson.se (eusrcmw751.exu.ericsson.se [138.85.77.51]) by imr1.ericy.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n5QFQRxb011126; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:26:41 -0500 Received: from ecamlmw720.eamcs.ericsson.se ([142.133.1.72]) by eusrcmw751.eamcs.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:26:37 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:26:36 -0400 Message-ID: <35815C929B41D2479A224FE098A27227077787A6@ecamlmw720.eamcs.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: <00275A5B436CA441900CB10936742A38027E1FEF@FRVELSMBS22.ad2.ad.alcatel.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: index field in draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-traffic-parameters Thread-Index: Acn2Zp2rW8ztw7gCTaWaTn2hTpj66QAAE1BwAADskMA= References: <35815C929B41D2479A224FE098A2722707778698@ecamlmw720.eamcs.ericsson.se> <00275A5B436CA441900CB10936742A38027E1FEF@FRVELSMBS22.ad2.ad.alcatel.com> From: "Benoit C Tremblay" To: "PAPADIMITRIOU Dimitri" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jun 2009 15:26:37.0804 (UTC) FILETIME=[7F3AE2C0:01C9F672] Subject: Re: [CCAMP] index field in draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-traffic-parameters X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:27:08 -0000 Hello Dimitri, Thanks for the clarification. I am not sure to understand why we need the BW in both the = EXTENDED_CLASSTYPE and the SENDER_TSPEC. Can't the BW accounting use the = information from the SENDER_TSPEC (either CIR or CIR+EIR) instead of = relying on the EXTENDED_CLASSTYPE? Regards, Benoit > -----Original Message----- > From: PAPADIMITRIOU Dimitri=20 > [mailto:Dimitri.Papadimitriou@alcatel-lucent.be]=20 > Sent: June-26-09 10:26 AM > To: Benoit C Tremblay; ccamp@ietf.org > Subject: RE: index field in=20 > draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-traffic-parameters >=20 > =20 > Hi Benoit,=20 >=20 >=20 > see in-line for the answers: >=20 >=20 > ________________________________ >=20 > From: Benoit C Tremblay [mailto:benoit.c.tremblay@ericsson.com]=20 > Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 4:02 PM > To: PAPADIMITRIOU Dimitri; ccamp@ops.ietf.org > Subject: index field in=20 > draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-traffic-parameters > =09 > =09 >=20 > Hello Dimitri,=20 >=20 > I have further comments on the section decribing the=20 > index field.=20 >=20 > 1) There is a reference to an expired draft=20 > (draft-minei-diffserv-te-multi-class). It should be removed. =20 >=20 >=20 > I am not sure how to deal with this - remove is not an option=20 > (as the doc. makes use of an object of that ref.) You will=20 > find a version here=20 > >=20 > 2) The requirement that "the index field value MUST=20 > correspond to at least one of the index values included in=20 > the CLASSTYPE object" is a bit problematic as a single=20 > CLASSTYPE object can be present in a PATH message and a=20 > single classtype can be represented with this object. The=20 > requirement would then exclude the possibility to insert=20 > multiple bandwidth profile TLVs in the SENDER_TSPEC. I=20 > suggest that this requirement should be conditional to the=20 > presence of thhe CLASSTYPE object. If a CLASSTYPE object is=20 > present, then a single BW profile TLV shall be present and=20 > the index value must be the CT defined in the CLASSTYPE=20 > object. If no CLASSTYPE object is present, multiple BW=20 > profile TLV (up to 8) can be present and the index value=20 > either represent a CT (values in [0, 7]) or a predefined set=20 > of CT (values in [8, 247]). >=20 >=20 > It is exactly the reason for using the EXTENDED version of=20 > the CLASSTYPE. Note that the latter option does not apply=20 > (cf. MUST) when used.=20 >=20 > Also important to remember the BW per CTi field MAY be used=20 > for bandwidth accounting purposes (the BW per CTi does not=20 > replace the TSPEC BW sub-TLV i.e. "The Ethernet SENDER_TSPEC=20 > object MAY include more than one Ethernet Bandwidth Profile TLV"). >=20 >=20 > 3) Also, it should be clarified that the 240=20 > pre-defined sets of CTs are not standard. The following text=20 > is proposed to be included : >=20 > I will the first sentence, the other should be included in=20 > i-d's making use of these traffic parameters. >=20 > Thanks, > -dimitri. >=20 > "To ensure coherent operation, the network=20 > administrator MUST configure exactly the same pre-defined CT=20 > sets on all LSRs of the GMPLS domain. Proper configuration=20 > needs also to be agreed between administrative domains if=20 > this feature is used over UNI. The mean to pre-configured=20 > those sets and their definitions are out of scope of this=20 > specification. " >=20 > Regards,=20 >=20 > Benoit=20 >=20 > Picture (Metafile)=20 > Benoit Tremblay=20 > Broadband and Systems Research=20 > Ericsson Canada=20 > 8400 D=E9carie Mount-Royal=20 > Tel: +1 514 345-7900 x45064=20 > Cell.: +1 514 501-0236=20 > Fax: +1 514 345-6105=20 > mailto: Benoit.c.Tremblay@ericsson.com=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From Dimitri.Papadimitriou@alcatel-lucent.be Fri Jun 26 08:56:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9AC53A6BBD for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:56:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ktFKVCi--UWH for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smail3.alcatel.fr (smail3.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.56]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68AEE28C12A for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRVELSBHS06.ad2.ad.alcatel.com (frvelsbhs06.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [155.132.6.78]) by smail3.alcatel.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/ICT) with ESMTP id n5QFujsd019479; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:56:45 +0200 Received: from FRVELSMBS22.ad2.ad.alcatel.com ([155.132.6.51]) by FRVELSBHS06.ad2.ad.alcatel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:56:45 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:56:44 +0200 Message-ID: <00275A5B436CA441900CB10936742A38027E2050@FRVELSMBS22.ad2.ad.alcatel.com> In-Reply-To: <35815C929B41D2479A224FE098A27227077787A6@ecamlmw720.eamcs.ericsson.se> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: index field in draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-traffic-parameters Thread-Index: Acn2Zp2rW8ztw7gCTaWaTn2hTpj66QAAE1BwAADskMAAArSqcA== References: <35815C929B41D2479A224FE098A2722707778698@ecamlmw720.eamcs.ericsson.se> <00275A5B436CA441900CB10936742A38027E1FEF@FRVELSMBS22.ad2.ad.alcatel.com> <35815C929B41D2479A224FE098A27227077787A6@ecamlmw720.eamcs.ericsson.se> From: "PAPADIMITRIOU Dimitri" To: "Benoit C Tremblay" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jun 2009 15:56:45.0400 (UTC) FILETIME=[B4A42580:01C9F676] X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 155.132.188.83 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] index field in draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-traffic-parameters X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:56:43 -0000 Hello Benoit,=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Benoit C Tremblay [mailto:benoit.c.tremblay@ericsson.com]=20 > Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 5:27 PM > To: PAPADIMITRIOU Dimitri; ccamp@ietf.org > Subject: RE: index field in=20 > draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-traffic-parameters >=20 > Hello Dimitri, >=20 > Thanks for the clarification. >=20 > I am not sure to understand why we need the BW in both the=20 > EXTENDED_CLASSTYPE and the SENDER_TSPEC.=20 As I stated below BW in the EXTENDED version is not required for BW = settings but I can not forbid it. > Can't the BW=20 > accounting use the information from the SENDER_TSPEC (either=20 > CIR or CIR+EIR) instead of relying on the EXTENDED_CLASSTYPE? You can. I just did not want to prevent existing use of the EXTENDED = version of the CLASSTYPE. The EXTENDED CLASSTYPE in its minimum usage is = just for the multiple CTi it permits. Thanks, -dimitri. > Regards, > Benoit >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: PAPADIMITRIOU Dimitri=20 > > [mailto:Dimitri.Papadimitriou@alcatel-lucent.be]=20 > > Sent: June-26-09 10:26 AM > > To: Benoit C Tremblay; ccamp@ietf.org > > Subject: RE: index field in=20 > > draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-traffic-parameters > >=20 > > =20 > > Hi Benoit,=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > see in-line for the answers: > >=20 > >=20 > > ________________________________ > >=20 > > From: Benoit C Tremblay [mailto:benoit.c.tremblay@ericsson.com]=20 > > Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 4:02 PM > > To: PAPADIMITRIOU Dimitri; ccamp@ops.ietf.org > > Subject: index field in=20 > > draft-ietf-ccamp-ethernet-traffic-parameters > > =09 > > =09 > >=20 > > Hello Dimitri,=20 > >=20 > > I have further comments on the section decribing the=20 > > index field.=20 > >=20 > > 1) There is a reference to an expired draft=20 > > (draft-minei-diffserv-te-multi-class). It should be removed. =20 > >=20 > >=20 > > I am not sure how to deal with this - remove is not an option=20 > > (as the doc. makes use of an object of that ref.) You will=20 > > find a version here=20 > >=20 > > >=20 > > 2) The requirement that "the index field value MUST=20 > > correspond to at least one of the index values included in=20 > > the CLASSTYPE object" is a bit problematic as a single=20 > > CLASSTYPE object can be present in a PATH message and a=20 > > single classtype can be represented with this object. The=20 > > requirement would then exclude the possibility to insert=20 > > multiple bandwidth profile TLVs in the SENDER_TSPEC. I=20 > > suggest that this requirement should be conditional to the=20 > > presence of thhe CLASSTYPE object. If a CLASSTYPE object is=20 > > present, then a single BW profile TLV shall be present and=20 > > the index value must be the CT defined in the CLASSTYPE=20 > > object. If no CLASSTYPE object is present, multiple BW=20 > > profile TLV (up to 8) can be present and the index value=20 > > either represent a CT (values in [0, 7]) or a predefined set=20 > > of CT (values in [8, 247]). > >=20 > >=20 > > It is exactly the reason for using the EXTENDED version of=20 > > the CLASSTYPE. Note that the latter option does not apply=20 > > (cf. MUST) when used.=20 > >=20 > > Also important to remember the BW per CTi field MAY be used=20 > > for bandwidth accounting purposes (the BW per CTi does not=20 > > replace the TSPEC BW sub-TLV i.e. "The Ethernet SENDER_TSPEC=20 > > object MAY include more than one Ethernet Bandwidth Profile TLV"). > >=20 > >=20 > > 3) Also, it should be clarified that the 240=20 > > pre-defined sets of CTs are not standard. The following text=20 > > is proposed to be included : > >=20 > > I will the first sentence, the other should be included in=20 > > i-d's making use of these traffic parameters. > >=20 > > Thanks, > > -dimitri. > >=20 > > "To ensure coherent operation, the network=20 > > administrator MUST configure exactly the same pre-defined CT=20 > > sets on all LSRs of the GMPLS domain. Proper configuration=20 > > needs also to be agreed between administrative domains if=20 > > this feature is used over UNI. The mean to pre-configured=20 > > those sets and their definitions are out of scope of this=20 > > specification. " > >=20 > > Regards,=20 > >=20 > > Benoit=20 > >=20 > > Picture (Metafile)=20 > > Benoit Tremblay=20 > > Broadband and Systems Research=20 > > Ericsson Canada=20 > > 8400 D=E9carie Mount-Royal=20 > > Tel: +1 514 345-7900 x45064=20 > > Cell.: +1 514 501-0236=20 > > Fax: +1 514 345-6105=20 > > mailto: Benoit.c.Tremblay@ericsson.com=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 >=20 From lberger@labn.net Fri Jun 26 11:00:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE60E3A6932 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:00:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.135 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.135 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.130, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZTT2Ccdr1dkp for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outbound-mail-319.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-319.bluehost.com [67.222.54.251]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5AD873A6861 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2028 invoked by uid 0); 26 Jun 2009 17:57:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by outboundproxy6.bluehost.com with SMTP; 26 Jun 2009 17:57:39 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=labn.net; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:X-Enigmail-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Identified-User; b=RI/DKRkXzrJkVTTa+9/cu0PEJ2/xLuf2U9V/ueZdZ5n8eMy/1I2pshHNZcpZHWuiXndfzaJh+8JondouEPHb1NIJo+ah4P1738eccMYgOnrkWAoVUAs/C1KhH8Zh8nma; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MKFgA-0003XP-TS; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:57:39 -0600 Message-ID: <4A450C11.4050201@labn.net> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:57:37 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1b3pre) Gecko/20090408 Eudora/3.0b2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joan Cucchiara References: <49F8E7CA.6010902@labn.net> <00c601c9ca3e$347d4da0$6501a8c0@JoanPC> <49FAD79A.2090805@labn.net> <015c01c9d22e$13963730$6501a8c0@JoanPC> <4A40C6DD.2000002@labn.net> <00a401c9f4ce$aa644c70$6501a8c0@JoanPC> <4A422E0C.7090906@labn.net> <01d401c9f662$a5437820$6501a8c0@JoanPC> In-Reply-To: <01d401c9f662$a5437820$6501a8c0@JoanPC> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Cc: ccamp@ietf.org, "Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" , tnadeau@bt.com Subject: Re: [CCAMP] MIB Dr. review of draft-ietf-gmpls-ted-mib-5.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:00:24 -0000 Joan, Thank you for the thorough review! Authors, Please update the document accordingly and let the WG know once your changes have been submitted. Lou On 6/26/2009 9:33 AM, Joan Cucchiara wrote: > Hello, > > Very interesting MIB! A good deal of thought went into this. > Thanks for that! > > First, the MIB compiler output will be given. Followed by a > general discussion and then specific comments given which > are in order of the document. > > Thanks, > -Joan > > > > > MIB Compiler output: > ======================= > > smicngPRO > ---------- > > * (NIT) Unable to abstract MIB Module using mstrip tool. > > E: f(TED-MIB.my), (460,4) Index item "teLocalIntAddrIndex" must be > defined with syntax that includes a range > E: f(TED-MIB.my), (518,49) Index item "teRemoteIntAddrIndex" must be > defined with syntax that includes a range > E: f(TED-MIB.my), (579,53) Index item "teSwCapIndex" must be defined > with syntax that includes a range > E: f(TED-MIB.my), (765,53) Index item "teSrlgIndex" must be defined with > syntax that includes a range > W: f(TED-MIB.my), (797,9) Variable "teAreaId" in notification > "tedTeInfoStatusChange" is an index for a table > W: f(TED-MIB.my), (797,19) Variable "teRouterId" in notification > "tedTeInfoStatusChange" is an index for a table > W: f(TED-MIB.my), (797,31) Variable "teLinkStateId" in notification > "tedTeInfoStatusChange" is an index for a table > W: f(TED-MIB.my), (809,9) Variable "teAreaId" in notification > "tedTeCreation" is an index for a table > W: f(TED-MIB.my), (809,19) Variable "teRouterId" in notification > "tedTeCreation" is an index for a table > W: f(TED-MIB.my), (809,31) Variable "teLinkStateId" in notification > "tedTeCreation" is an index for a table > W: f(TED-MIB.my), (819,9) Variable "teAreaId" in notification > "tedTeDeletion" is an index for a table > W: f(TED-MIB.my), (819,19) Variable "teRouterId" in notification > "tedTeDeletion" is an index for a table > W: f(TED-MIB.my), (819,31) Variable "teLinkStateId" in notification > "tedTeDeletion" is an index for a table > W: f(TED-MIB.my), (926,7) NOTIFICATION-GROUP "tedNotificationGroup" is > not used in a MODULE-COMPLIANCE in current module > > > > > > smiLint > ------------ > > Validation report > File: TED-MIB.my > Severity level requested: 6 > > Line Severity Problem > 109 5 warning: index element `teAreaId' of row `tedEntry' should be > not-accessible in SMIv2 MIB > 5 warning: index element `teRouterId' of row `tedEntry' should be > not-accessible in SMIv2 MIB > 5 warning: index element `teLinkStateId' of row `tedEntry' should > be not-accessible in SMIv2 MIB > 926 5 warning: current group `tedNotificationGroup' is not referenced in > this module > > > > General Discussion > ------------------ > > * As an fyi, the OSPFv3 MIB (for IPv6) is "IESG Evaluation". > > * In what GMPLS WG document is this functionality defined? > > I see a lot of MIBs referenced in MPLS, OSPF, ISIS and GMPLS and > also a lot of documents being referenced, but not a specific TED one. > > > * The MIB objects themselves do not have any REFERENCE clauses and most > of these > probably should given the nature of this MIB (i.e. that it is pulling from > so many different documents.) Please be specific in your REFERENCE clauses > such as document, section, and sub-section, if appropriate. > > * The names in this MIB are not prefixed consistently. > Please see Appendix C of RFC4181. > > For example, TED-MIB is the MIB's name, and then > TedEntry, but the objects in this table are prefixed by "te" (but "ted" > would > be more consistent.) > > - The abbreviation for interface is "int" but would prefer either "if" > or "intf". > > > * With the exception of 2 objects, the MIB consists of read-only objects. > While this is fine in and of itself, there are several places in the > text that the > authors warn that if local configuration is done then routing needs to be > triggered so the new configuration gets dispersed. When looking at these > MIB tables, is there any way to tell if the information is currently in > use or not? > > > > Specific Comments (in order of document) > ------------------------------------------ > > * Table of Contents > > s/Author's Address/Authors' Addresses/ > > > * TOC is missing "Informative References" entry. > > > > * 2. Introduction > > NIT: > s/related with/related to/ > > * In what GMPLS WG document is the functionality of TED defined? > > 4. Motivations > > * Why is ISIS not mentioned here? > > > 6. Example of TED MIB module usage > s/module usage/Module Usage/ > > * Second paragraph "TE MIB" > s/TE MIB/TED MIB/ > > The second paragraph is confusing. The Tables reflect information as > read only, yet, this paragraph discusses changing this information > locally (e.g. on a router) and then triggering routing to update > this information. > > The example given is confusing. What are the index values supposed to be? > > > MIB MODULE > ------------- > > * Please differentiate values as XXX or YYY for the rfc editor. > > * as suggested by Appendix D of RFC4181 (Guidelines for MIB Documents) > the oid layout should be: > > xxxMIB > | > +-- xxxNotifications(0) > +-- xxxObjects(1) > +-- xxxConformance(2) > | > +-- xxxCompliances(1) > +-- xxxGroups(2) > > > This OID layout is: > - tedMIB > \-v-0 tedNotifications > |-1 tedObjects > \-2 tedConformance > \-v-1 tedGroups > \-2 tedCompliances > > Groups and Compliances should be reversed. > > > * Additionally there are extraneous sub-ids > of tedScalars and tedTables under the tedObjects branch. > While many older MIBs separated scalars and tables this way, > this is not needed and while fine for the MIB as it exists > currently, if this MIB is added to in the future (e.g. if an > enterprise MIB developer wants to add objects via his/her own > enterprise MIB Module), then keeping the separation of scalars > and tables may be a hinderance. I would ask that you remove > these sub-ids (tedScalars and tedTables) so that the oidtree > will look like: > > |-1 tedObjects > | \-1 tedNotificationEnabled, TruthValue[SNMPv2-TC], rw, current > | \-2 tedNotificationMaxRate, Unsigned32, rw, current > \-3 tedTable > | \---1 tedEntry, INDEX{ teAreaId,teRouterId,teLinkStateId } > | \-v-1 teAreaId, Unsigned32(1..4294967295), ro, current > > etc. > > > * tedNotificationEnabled > > Why is this object needed? Please answer the question wrt rfc3413. > > > * tedNotificationMaxRate > > This one throttling mechanism is used to control 3 different notifications. > This might be okay, but that depends on the notifications and as they are > written now, they seem to be overlapping. For example, if a TED is created > then are 2 notifications sent (one ofr StatusChange and one for Creation) > or just one (for Creation)? > > > * teLinkInformationData > > The DESCRIPTION mentions the "teLinkTable of TE-LINK-STD-MIB", could you > please > tell me what draft or rfc this is? > > What about OSPFv3 and other protocols that may be related to this MIB > (at some point?) > Are you sure that this object is going to be useful (even in the > short-term?) > > > > > * Notifications > > The descriptions are very unclear. Under what circumstances are these > generated? Please be specific. > > * Conformance statements are missing the restrictions for > IpAddress and IpAddressType objects in this MIB. > Please correct this. > > > * ReadOnly Compliance is incorrect. There are 2 writable objects > which need to be given read-only conformance. > > > * 8. Security consideration > > s/consideration/Considerations/ > > - The first paragraph states there aren't any read-write objects but > this is not accurate. Please update. > > > > > > > From dbrungard@att.com Fri Jun 26 11:46:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DCBE3A67C0 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:46:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.164 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.164 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.435, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_MLH_Stock1=0.87, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O923hA99WbPb for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail120.messagelabs.com (mail120.messagelabs.com [216.82.250.83]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 424653A67AA for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:46:14 -0700 (PDT) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: dbrungard@att.com X-Msg-Ref: server-13.tower-120.messagelabs.com!1246041874!30329372!1 X-StarScan-Version: 6.0.0; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [144.160.20.54] Received: (qmail 30355 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2009 18:44:34 -0000 Received: from sbcsmtp7.sbc.com (HELO mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com) (144.160.20.54) by server-13.tower-120.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 26 Jun 2009 18:44:34 -0000 Received: from enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5QIiXKa012034 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:44:33 -0400 Received: from gaalpa1msgusr7e.ugd.att.com (gaalpa1msgusr7e.ugd.att.com [135.53.26.19]) by mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5QIiTNY011939 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:44:30 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:44:28 -0400 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Agenda slot requests for Stockholm Thread-Index: Acn2jiMADI85lbuCRaufIptS6MGVkw== From: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS" To: Subject: [CCAMP] Agenda slot requests for Stockholm X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:46:15 -0000 Please let Lou and me know if you would like time on the agenda for CCAMP in Stockholm. Note, we have requested two sessions. We have requested to change Monday's Session 1 to another day. https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/75/agenda.html The two draft cutoff dates are Monday, July 6, for initial submissions and Monday, July 13th, for revised. Deborah (and Lou) From loa@pi.nu Mon Jun 29 06:37:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D442B3A6B6B; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:37:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.52 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.52 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.079, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P2s5owtx7RuC; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:37:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.pi.nu (mail.pi.nu [194.71.127.148]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2B03A6AF4; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:37:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (h133n2fls33o883.telia.com [217.208.62.133]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by mail.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B8462D4048; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:37:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A48C39D.7050609@pi.nu> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:37:33 +0200 From: Loa Andersson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mpls@ietf.org, mpls-tp@ietf.org, ccamp@ietf.org, pwe3@ietf.org, Ross Callon , Adrian Farrel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [CCAMP] WK Last Call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-oam-requirements-02.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:37:53 -0000 All, This is to start a working group lat call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-oam-requirements-02.txt that is is schedule to end July 17th. We chosen to start this last call already now and prolong it one week since we have a a parallel wg last call on the network management requirements (ending July 10). Please send comments to mpls-tp mailing list! *I.e. do not simply do a reply all on this mail.* /Loa -- Loa Andersson Sr Strategy and Standards Manager phone: +46 10 717 52 13 Ericsson /// +46 767 72 92 13 email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com loa@pi.nu From dbrungard@att.com Mon Jun 29 07:24:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D31428C2A5 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:24:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.49 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.49 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.109, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1wOQXIFW6Xe0 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail120.messagelabs.com (mail120.messagelabs.com [216.82.250.83]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA8EB28C25B for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:24:29 -0700 (PDT) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: dbrungard@att.com X-Msg-Ref: server-10.tower-120.messagelabs.com!1246285476!18828328!1 X-StarScan-Version: 6.0.0; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [144.160.20.54] Received: (qmail 8088 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2009 14:24:37 -0000 Received: from sbcsmtp7.sbc.com (HELO mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com) (144.160.20.54) by server-10.tower-120.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 29 Jun 2009 14:24:37 -0000 Received: from enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5TEOax3006082 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:24:36 -0400 Received: from gaalpa1msgusr7e.ugd.att.com (gaalpa1msgusr7e.ugd.att.com [135.53.26.19]) by mlpi135.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5TEOWtd006050 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:24:32 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:24:31 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt asWG I-D Thread-Index: Acn0OP/6wNFyydfPRimXSaM5EwuGtwEjAzSQ References: From: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS" To: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt asWG I-D X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:24:30 -0000 Hi, We have good support for this document. Authors, please submit the document as a wg document (draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-impairments-00.txt). Thanks, Deborah and Lou -----Original Message----- From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A, ATTLABS Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 3:30 PM To: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] Poll for draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairments-05.txt asWG I-D Hi, This document has been updated based on feedback and to align with the results of the recent ITU SG15 Q6 meeting. Can you please express your opinion on the adoption of it as a WG document: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bernstein-ccamp-wson-impairmen ts-05.txt Thanks, Deborah and Lou _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From diego.caviglia@ericsson.com Mon Jun 29 08:08:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9602028C0DC for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:08:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S4cbSLzpOamS for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw4.ericsson.se (mailgw4.ericsson.se [193.180.251.62]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 489053A6A08 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:08:27 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb3e-b7be1ae000004757-09-4a48d8feb7d2 Received: from esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw4.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 0B.52.18263.EF8D84A4; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:08:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from esealmw110.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.200.78]) by esealmw128.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:08:46 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:05:56 +0200 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] : comments of draft-ke-ccamp-gmpls-odu0-00 Thread-Index: Acnz1ZjK49iy+fAqThSoWxvzNx3wVQALNNSgATIR6XA= References: <328B9F5068825A48A4B8422A350B90476DDA99@CNBEEXC006.nsn-intra.net> From: "Diego Caviglia" To: "Diego Caviglia" , "Jin, Lizhong (NSN - CN/Shanghai)" , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jun 2009 15:08:46.0134 (UTC) FILETIME=[7FB44560:01C9F8CB] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] : comments of draft-ke-ccamp-gmpls-odu0-00 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:08:28 -0000 Hi all, here is the link to the ID I was mentioning. Comments are welcome. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ceccarelli-ccamp-gmpls-g709-am3-00 BR Diego =20 __________________________________________ Diego Caviglia Strategic Product Manager Broadband Networks, PL Broadband Optical Network=20 Ericsson Telecomunicazioni S.p.A. (TEI) Via A. Negrone 1/A Office: +39 010 600 3736 16153, Genova, Italy Fax: +39 010 600 3577 Block E Level 4 Mobile: +39 335 7181762 www.ericsson.com diego.caviglia@ericsson.com This communication is confidential and intended solely for the = addressee(s). Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution = is prohibited. If you believe this message has been sent to you in = error, please notify the sender by replying to this transmission and = delete the message without disclosing it. Thank you. ________________________________ > -----Original Message----- > From: Diego Caviglia > Sent: marted=EC 23 giugno 2009 15.01 > To: 'Jin, Lizhong (NSN - CN/Shanghai)'; ke.ming@zte.com.cn; > bao.yuanlin@zte.com.cn > Cc: ccamp@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [CCAMP] : comments of draft-ke-ccamp-gmpls-odu0-00 >=20 > Hi all, > w.r.t. this subject we're going to publish soon a new ID about = the > GMPLS extension needed to support the new OTN format, ODU0, ODU2e,... >=20 > BR >=20 > Diego >=20 >=20 > __________________________________________ > Diego Caviglia > Strategic Product Manager > Broadband Networks, PL Broadband Optical Network > Ericsson Telecomunicazioni S.p.A. (TEI) > Via A. Negrone 1/A Office: +39 010 600 3736 > 16153, Genova, Italy Fax: +39 010 600 3577 > Block E Level 4 Mobile: +39 335 = 7181762 > www.ericsson.com diego.caviglia@ericsson.com > This communication is confidential and intended solely for the > addressee(s). Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution = is > prohibited. If you believe this message has been sent to you in error, > please notify the sender by replying to this transmission and delete = the > message without disclosing it. Thank you. > ________________________________ >=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On = Behalf > Of > > Jin, Lizhong (NSN - CN/Shanghai) > > Sent: marted=EC 23 giugno 2009 9.47 > > To: ke.ming@zte.com.cn; bao.yuanlin@zte.com.cn > > Cc: ccamp@ietf.org > > Subject: [CCAMP] : comments of draft-ke-ccamp-gmpls-odu0-00 > > > > Dear Ke & authors: > > The document draft-ke-ccamp-gmpls-odu0-00 is already expired. Do you > have > > any plan to update it? > > What's more, I hope this document can also include other new mapping > > extensions for ODU, e.g, ODU2e map to ODU3. > > _______________________________________________ > > CCAMP mailing list > > CCAMP@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From root@core3.amsl.com Mon Jun 29 10:45:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietf.org Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 5215F3A6A6D; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:45:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20090629174501.5215F3A6A6D@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:45:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:08:33 -0700 Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] I-D Action:draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-impairments-00.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:45:01 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF. Title : A Framework for the Control of Wavelength Switched Optical Networks (WSON) with Impairments Author(s) : G. Bernstein Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-impairments-00.txt Pages : 34 Date : 2009-06-29 The operation of optical networks requires information on the physical characterization of optical network elements, subsystems, devices, and cabling. These physical characteristics may be important to consider when using a GMPLS control plane to support path setup and maintenance. This document discusses how the definition and characterization of optical fiber, devices, subsystems, and network elements contained in various ITU-T recommendations can be combined with GMPLS control plane protocols and mechanisms to support Impairment Aware Routing and Wavelength Assignment (IA-RWA) in optical networks. 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 --Boundary_(ID_NazkMuSUJGnx9dBeq4BANw)-- From danli@huawei.com Tue Jun 30 00:14:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ADDF28C331 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:14:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.578 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.578 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.539, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.884, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_BASE64_TEXT=1.753] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sKf7gyj+JCFY for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:14:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from szxga04-in.huawei.com (szxga04-in.huawei.com [119.145.14.67]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FF5228C334 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:13:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (szxga04-in [172.24.2.12]) by szxga04-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KM1003S7IPAGA@szxga04-in.huawei.com> for ccamp@ietf.org; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:12:46 +0800 (CST) Received: from huawei.com ([172.24.1.33]) by szxga04-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0KM100HDWIPABG@szxga04-in.huawei.com> for ccamp@ietf.org; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:12:46 +0800 (CST) Received: from l37133a ([10.70.77.54]) by szxml06-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0KM1008RJIPAUF@szxml06-in.huawei.com> for ccamp@ietf.org; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:12:46 +0800 (CST) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:12:46 +0800 From: Dan Li To: ccamp@ietf.org Message-id: <031a01c9f952$2b263ad0$364d460a@china.huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_s7AUgxS3aSZIhiITJTZOlg)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Subject: [CCAMP] [resend] Summary of the changes on draft-ietf-ccamp-confirm-data-channel-status X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 07:14:13 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_s7AUgxS3aSZIhiITJTZOlg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi All, After the WG LC on draft-ietf-ccamp-confirm-data-channel-status-02.txt, we got many comments. With the discussion on the CCAMP mailing list, and also got lots of help from CCAMP co-chairs Lou and Deborah, we have addressed all the comments on this draft. The following is the summary about the changes between 05 version (latest version) and 02 version (WG LC version). The latest version can be found at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-confirm-data-channel-status-05 - Section 1: Added text to define the scope of use/applicability of this document. OLD: This document defines simple additions to the Link Management Protocol (LMP) [RFC4204] to provide a control plane tool that can assist in the location of stranded resources by allowing adjacent LSRs to confirm data channel statuses, and provides triggers for notifying the management plane if any discrepancies are found. NEW: This document defines simple additions to the Link Management Protocol (LMP) [RFC4204] to provide a control plane tool that can assist in the location of stranded resources by allowing adjacent LSRs to confirm data channel statuses, and provides triggers for notifying the management plane if any discrepancies are found. As LMP is already used to verify data plane connectivity, it is considered to be an appropriate candidate to support this feature. - Section 2.2 Clarified the Soft state issue: OLD: RSVP-TE restart processes [RFC3473], [RFC5063] define mechanisms where adjacent LSRs may resynchronize their control plane state to reinstate information about LSPs that have persisted in the data plane. The mechanisms allow LSRs to detect mismatched data plane state after the expiry of the Recovery Timer. It is a local policy decision how this mismatched state is handled. Some deployments may decide to automatically clean up the data plane state so it matches the control plane state, but others may choose to raise an alert to the management plane and leave the data plane untouched just in case it is in use. NEW: In [RFC2205] and [RFC3209], a soft state mechanism was defined to prevent state discrepancies between LSRs. RSVP-TE restart processes ([RFC3473], [RFC5063]) have been defined: adjacent LSRs may resynchronize their control plane state to reinstate information about LSPs that have persisted in the data plane. Both mechanisms aim at keeping state consistency among nodes and allow LSRs to detect mismatched data plane states. The data plane handling of such mismatched state can be treated as a local policy decision. Some deployments may decide to automatically clean up the data plane state so it matches the control plane state, but others may choose to raise an alert to the management plane and leave the data plane untouched just in case it is in use. - Removed Section 2.3 (Manual Change of the Cross-Connection State) in version 02. - Section 2.4 in 02 version (section 2.3 in 05 version) Editorial Change: "From the upstream's point of view" ^^^^^^^^^^upstream node's - Section 3: Editorial Change: "The protocol extensions are intended..." Change to: "The protocol extensions defined in this document are intended..." - Section 4.1: Clarifications: OLD: Extensions to LMP to confirm a data channel status are described below. In order to confirm a data channel status, the new LMP messages are sent between adjacent nodes periodically or driven by some event (such as an operator command, a configurable timer, or the rejection of an LSP setup message because of an unavailable resource). Three new messages are defined to check data channel status. Message Type numbers are found in Section 7.1. NEW: Extensions to LMP to confirm a data channel status are described below. In order to confirm a data channel status, the new LMP messages are sent between adjacent nodes periodically or driven by some event (such as an operator command, a configurable timer, or the rejection of an LSP setup message because of an unavailable resource). The new LMP messages run over the control channel, encapsulated in UDP with an LMP port number and IP addressing as defined in Link Management Protocol (LMP) [RFC4204]. Three new messages are defined to check data channel status. Message Type numbers are found in Section 7.1. If the message is a Confirm Data Channel Status message, and the Message_Id value is less than the largest Message_Id value previously received from the sender for the specified TE link, then the message SHOULD be treated as being out-of-order. - Section 4.1.1 Editorial Change: "is found, this mismatch result SHOULD be reported to" change to: "is found, this mismatch result is expected to be reported to" - Section 4.1.2 Editorial Change: "status mismatch is found, the mismatch result SHOULD be reported to" change to: "status mismatch is found, the mismatch result is expected to be reported to" - Section 4.2 Change the definition to cover when the channel / resource is unavailable due to being missing, removed, administratively off-line, failed scenarios. OLD: 0x0000 : The channel is available/free. 0x0001 : The channel is cross-connected/allocated. NEW: 0x0000 : The channel is available/free. 0x0001 : The channel is unavailable/in-use. - Added new section 4.3 "Message Construction" - Added new section 4.4 "Backward Compatibility" - Section 5 Fixed the issue of "Section 5 is still fairly weak on it usage of [RFC2119] conformance language." 1) "The data channel status confirmation related LMP messages are sent" replace "are" with "MAY be" 2) "The SENDER constructs a ConfirmDataChannelStatus message which contains one or more DATA_LINK objects." replace "contains" with "MUST contain" 3) "defined in [RFC4204]. Each DATA_LINK object contains one or more" replace "contains" with "MUST contain" 4) "Data Channel Status subobject. The Data Channel ID field in the" replace "subobject" with "subobjects" 5) "Data Channel Status subobject indicates which data channel needs" replace "indicates" with "MUST indicate" 6) "to be confirmed, and reports the data channel status at the SENDER." replace "reports" with "MUST report" 7) "The RECEIVER extracts the data channel statuses from the" replace "extracts" with "MUST extract" 8) "ConfirmDataChannelStatus message, and compares these with its data" replace "compares" with "SHOULD compare " 9) "The RECEIVER also sends the ConfirmDataChannelStatusAck message which carries all" replace "sends" with "SHOULD send " replace "carries" with "MUST carry" 10) "The SENDER receives the response ConfirmDataChannelStatusAck" Insert "When" before "the SENDER" 11) "message, and compares the received data channel statuses at the" replace "compares" with "MUST compare" - Section 5 Added the following text to describe the re-transmission mechanism: Due to message loss problem, the SENDER may not be able to receive the acknowledgment message. ConfirmDataChannelStatus SHOULD be sent using LMP [RFC4204] reliable transmission mechanisms. If after the retry limit is reached, a ConfirmDataChannelStatusAck message or a ConfirmDataChannelStatusNack message is not received by the SENDER, the SENDER SHOULD terminate the data channel confirmation procedure. - Section 9.2 Added two references: RFC 2205, RFC 2309. - Section 11, 12, 13 Changed to new template of IETF draft. 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PjwvSFRNTD4NCg== --Boundary_(ID_s7AUgxS3aSZIhiITJTZOlg)-- From loa@pi.nu Tue Jun 30 07:20:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A08B3A6975; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 07:20:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.68 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.68 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.081, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ezcXLfYnu7Bv; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 07:20:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.pi.nu (mail.pi.nu [194.71.127.148]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A352C3A6B07; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 07:20:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (h133n2fls33o883.telia.com [217.208.62.133]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by mail.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B1F3FD4048; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:19:41 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A4A1EFA.6040101@pi.nu> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:19:38 +0200 From: Loa Andersson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mpls@ietf.org, mpls-tp@ietf.org, ccamp@ietf.org, pwe3@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [CCAMP] poll to make draft-andersson-mpls-tp-process-03.txt a working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:20:18 -0000 All, we have an individual draft, draft-andersson-mpls-tp-process-03.txt, that describes additions to the mpls working group process to allow ITU-T to give input on MPLS-TP Internet Drafts. It pretty much captures current practice, and from the start we had no intention to ever progress, but recently there has been comments that it would have a better and clearer sttus if it were a working group document. We have had no plans to ever make it an RFC, but it has been pointed out that it would be possible to publish as an Historical RFC. Whether we execute on that or not is not yet decided. Therefore, is is to start at two week poll on making draft-andersson-mpls-tp-process-03.txt an MPLS working group document. The poll ends on July 14. Please send your comments to the mpls-tp list. Please -- Loa Andersson Sr Strategy and Standards Manager phone: +46 10 717 52 13 Ericsson /// +46 767 72 92 13 email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com loa@pi.nu