From root@core3.amsl.com Mon May 3 07:30:02 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietf.org Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 370183A6D01; Mon, 3 May 2010 07:30:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20100503143002.370183A6D01@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 07:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] I-D Action:draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ethernet-pbb-te-04.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 14:30:02 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF. Title : Generalized Multiprotocol Label Switching (GMPLS) control of Ethernet PBB-TE Author(s) : D. Fedyk, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ethernet-pbb-te-04.txt Pages : 19 Date : 2010-05-03 This specification is complementary to the GMPLS Ethernet Label Switching Architecture and Framework [RFC5828] and describes the technology specific aspects of GMPLS control for Provider Backbone Bridge Traffic Engineering (PBB-TE) [IEEE 802.1Qay]. The necessary GMPLS extensions and mechanisms are described to establish Ethernet PBB-TE point to point (P2P) and point to multipoint (P2MP) connections. This document supports, but does not modify, the standard IEEE data plane. 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The liaison will be found at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/liaison_detail.cgi?detail_id=887 and the document: https://datatracker.ietf.org/documents/LIAISON/file1011.pdf Please review and send comments to the mpls-tp@ietf.org /Loa -- Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 From davari@broadcom.com Mon May 3 13:27:15 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4A628C2D3; Mon, 3 May 2010 13:27:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.094 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.094 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.096, BAYES_50=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0hoc09eT-8b7; Mon, 3 May 2010 13:27:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mms1.broadcom.com (mms1.broadcom.com [216.31.210.17]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73AD828C2C2; Mon, 3 May 2010 13:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.16.192.232] by mms1.broadcom.com with ESMTP (Broadcom SMTP Relay (Email Firewall v6.3.2)); Mon, 03 May 2010 13:26:30 -0700 X-Server-Uuid: 02CED230-5797-4B57-9875-D5D2FEE4708A Received: from SJEXCHCCR02.corp.ad.broadcom.com ([10.16.192.130]) by SJEXCHHUB02.corp.ad.broadcom.com ([10.16.192.232]) with mapi; Mon, 3 May 2010 13:26:30 -0700 From: "Shahram Davari" To: "George Swallow" , "Loa Andersson" , "mpls@ietf.org" , "mpls-tp@ietf.org" , "pwe3@ietf.org" , "ccamp@ietf.org" Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 13:26:28 -0700 Thread-Topic: [mpls] mpls wg last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-identifiers-01 Thread-Index: AcrBczT1LsEVDiSwTX2v9QSMrvpjyAAA7NaQCYvTuPMA1hYXQA== Message-ID: <2C2F1EBA8050E74EA81502D5740B4BD693F0494368@SJEXCHCCR02.corp.ad.broadcom.com> References: <2C2F1EBA8050E74EA81502D5740B4BD68171AE5BF5@SJEXCHCCR02.corp.ad.broadcom.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 67C1EEFC20S112410961-01-01 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=_000_2C2F1EBA8050E74EA81502D5740B4BD693F0494368SJEXCHCCR02co_ Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [mpls] mpls wg last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-identifiers-01 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 20:27:15 -0000 --_000_2C2F1EBA8050E74EA81502D5740B4BD693F0494368SJEXCHCCR02co_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable George, Thanks for your clarification. Assuming you will add clarification to the d= raft for the issues raised, you can consider these comments closed. -Shahram From: George Swallow [mailto:swallow@cisco.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 7:14 AM To: Shahram Davari; Loa Andersson; mpls@ietf.org; mpls-tp@ietf.org; pwe3@ie= tf.org; ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [mpls] mpls wg last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-identifiers-01 Shahram - See inline On 3/11/10 7:27 PM, "Shahram Davari" wrote: Hi, Couple of comments: 1) Why the Interface_ID is 32-bit while the Tunnel_ID is 16-bit? Do we need= to support more interfaces than tunnels? GS: Planning to change scope of Tunnel_ID. Just needs to be unique in the= context of the Session Object as defined in 3209 with source address used = as the extended tunnel-id 2) The draft defines the Global_Tunnel_ID as: Src-Global_ID::Src-Node_ID::Src-Tunnel_Num:: Dst-Global_ID::Dst-Node_= ID::Dst-Tunnel_Num This seems to define a bidirectional tunnel. Is that the intent? If so plea= se clarify. If not then why Dst-Global_ID::Dst-Node_ID::Dst-Tunnel_Num is n= eeded? GS: The scope is bidirectional. But I suppose it can be applied to unidire= ctional as well. I still don't understand the requirement for unidirection= al - seems to be that bidirectional with 0 data-bandwidth in the reverse di= rection would do better as you would have a return path for OAM and DCC etc= . 3) Is section 5.2 talking about unidirectional LSP or bidirectional LSP? GS: Ditto 4) Section 7.1.2.1 says: Since a MEG pertains to a single MPLS-TP Tunnel, IP compatible MEG_= IDs for MPLS-TP Tunnels are simply the corresponding Tunnel_IDs Assuming the Tunnel_ID is a unidirectional ID, then this statement implies = that for the reverse direction a different MEG_ID is required. Is that the = intent? If so why? GS: Not unidirectional! 5) Why are drafts part of the normative references? Cut and paste error actually! Thanks for pointing it out! 6) Will section 8 (open issues) be removed before publishing? This section = implies that the MEP and MIP definition is not yet aligned with framework? GS: Yes Regards, Shahram -----Original Message----- From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Loa= Andersson Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 3:33 PM To: mpls@ietf.org; mpls-tp@ietf.org; pwe3@ietf.org; ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] mpls wg last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-identifiers-01 All, this is to start an MPLS working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-identifiers-01 There is a discussion on the OAM model for MS-PWs where we haven't been able to come to conclusion. Once we reach agreement the document will be updated. Comments in this area are welcome during the working group last call. Please send your comments to the mpls-tp@ietf.org mailing list. The working group last ends eob April 2nd. /Loa -- Loa Andersson Sr Strategy and Standards Manager Ericsson /// phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com loa@pi.nu _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls --_000_2C2F1EBA8050E74EA81502D5740B4BD693F0494368SJEXCHCCR02co_ Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [mpls] mpls wg last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-identifiers-01</t= itle> <style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:"Cambria Math"; panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Verdana; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {mso-style-priority:99; color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D;} .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; font-size:10.0pt;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit"> <o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--> </head> <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",= "sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>George,<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",= "sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",= "sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>Thanks for your clarification. Assuming you will add clarifi= cation to the draft for the issues raised, you can consider these comments closed.= <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",= "sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",= "sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'>-Shahram<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",= "sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",= "sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",= "sans-serif"; color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <div> <div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in = 0in 0in'> <p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma= ","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> George Swallo= w [mailto:swallow@cisco.com] <br> <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 29, 2010 7:14 AM<br> <b>To:</b> Shahram Davari; Loa Andersson; mpls@ietf.org; mpls-tp@ietf.org; pwe3@ietf.org; ccamp@ietf.org<br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [mpls] mpls wg last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-identifiers-01<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> </div> <p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-siz= e:14.0pt; font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Shahram -<br> <br> See inline<br> <br> <br> On 3/11/10 7:27 PM, "Shahram Davari" <<a href=3D"davari@broadc= om.com">davari@broadcom.com</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",= "sans-serif"'>Hi,<br> <br> Couple of comments:<br> <br> 1) Why the Interface_ID is 32-bit while the Tunnel_ID is 16-bit? Do we need= to support more interfaces than tunnels?</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-siz= e:14.0pt; font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><br> GS:  Planning to change scope of Tunnel_ID.  Just needs to be uni= que in the context of the Session Object as defined in 3209 with source address used as the extended tunnel-id</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-siz= e:14.0pt; font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>2) The draft defines the Global_Tunnel_= ID as:<br>       Src-Global_ID::Src-Node_ID::Src-Tunnel_= Num:: Dst-Global_ID::Dst-Node_ID::Dst-Tunnel_Num<br> <br> This seems to define a bidirectional tunnel. Is that the intent? If so plea= se clarify. If not then why Dst-Global_ID::Dst-Node_ID::Dst-Tunnel_Num is need= ed?</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",= "sans-serif"'>GS: The scope is bidirectional.  But I suppose it can be applied to unidirectional as well.  I still don’t understand the requiremen= t for unidirectional – seems to be that bidirectional with 0 data-bandw= idth in the reverse direction would do better as you would have a return path fo= r OAM and DCC etc.</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-siz= e:14.0pt; font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><br> 3) Is section 5.2 talking about unidirectional LSP or bidirectional LSP?</s= pan><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",= "sans-serif"'>GS: Ditto</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-siz= e:14.0pt; font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><br> 4) Section 7.1.2.1 says:<br>         Since a MEG pertains to a single MPLS-TP Tunnel, IP compatible MEG_IDs for MPLS-TP Tunnels are simply= the corresponding Tunnel_IDs<br> <br> Assuming the Tunnel_ID is a unidirectional ID, then this statement implies = that for the reverse direction a different MEG_ID is required. Is that the inten= t? If so why?</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",= "sans-serif"'>GS: Not unidirectional!</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-siz= e:14.0pt; font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><br> 5) Why are drafts part of the normative references?</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",= "sans-serif"'>Cut and paste error actually!  Thanks for pointing it out!</span><o:p></o:= p></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-siz= e:14.0pt; font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><br> 6) Will section 8 (open issues) be removed before publishing? This section implies that the MEP and MIP definition is not yet aligned with framework?<= /span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",= "sans-serif"'>GS: Yes</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-siz= e:14.0pt; font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><br> Regards,<br> Shahram<br> <br> <br> <br> -----Original Message-----<br> From: <a href=3D"mpls-bounces@ietf.org">mpls-bounces@ietf.org</a> [<a href=3D"mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org</a>] On = Behalf Of Loa Andersson<br> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 3:33 PM<br> To: <a href=3D"mpls@ietf.org">mpls@ietf.org</a>; <a href=3D"mpls-tp@ietf.or= g">mpls-tp@ietf.org</a>; <a href=3D"pwe3@ietf.org">pwe3@ietf.org</a>; <a href=3D"ccamp@ietf.org">cca= mp@ietf.org</a><br> Subject: [mpls] mpls wg last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-identifiers-01<br> <br> All,<br> <br> this is to start an MPLS working group last call on<br> draft-ietf-mpls-tp-identifiers-01<br> <br> There is a discussion on the OAM model for MS-PWs where we haven't been<br> able to come to conclusion. Once we reach agreement the document will<br> be updated. Comments in this area are welcome during the working group<br> last call.<br> <br> <br> Please send your comments to the <a href=3D"mpls-tp@ietf.org">mpls-tp@ietf.= org</a> mailing list.<br> <br> The working group last ends eob April 2nd.<br> <br> /Loa<br> <br> --<br> <br> Loa Andersson<br> <br> Sr Strategy and Standards Manager<br> Ericsson ///<br>    phone:  +46 10 717 52 13<br>            +46 767 7= 2 92 13<br> <br>    email:  <a href=3D"loa.andersson@ericsson.com">loa.a= ndersson@ericsson.com</a><br>            <a href=3D"loa@pi.nu">loa@pi.nu</a><br> <br> <br> <br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> mpls mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mpls@ietf.org">mpls@ietf.org</a><br> <a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls">https://www.ietf.org= /mailman/listinfo/mpls</a><br> <br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> mpls mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mpls@ietf.org">mpls@ietf.org</a><br> <a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls">https://www.ietf.org= /mailman/listinfo/mpls</a></span><o:p></o:p></p> </div> </body> </html> --_000_2C2F1EBA8050E74EA81502D5740B4BD693F0494368SJEXCHCCR02co_-- From lberger@labn.net Tue May 4 10:57:37 2010 Return-Path: <lberger@labn.net> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F6F3A69B2 for <ccamp@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 4 May 2010 10:57:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.422 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.422 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.757, BAYES_50=0.001, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CYS2MpctaeAR for <ccamp@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 4 May 2010 10:57:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outbound-mail-01.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 78DE43A695C for <ccamp@ietf.org>; Tue, 4 May 2010 10:57:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 28960 invoked by uid 0); 4 May 2010 17:57:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 4 May 2010 17:57:22 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=labn.net; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Identified-User; b=ZT580VnHV6bdaqS0VJCMBKjRkqK4HqMaNKHR1E6mbGSnCv/JvViG8KRXQQIihoT6pnq+d1TspoBhSd2vhmvnEawqg2/HcCDoL6WFpz79f258od5rTyeV4GR4fOkLzXcC; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <lberger@labn.net>) id 1O9MN0-0001c9-Hg; Tue, 04 May 2010 11:57:22 -0600 Message-ID: <4BE0601F.7020202@labn.net> Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 13:57:51 -0400 From: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100301 Eudora/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "'Ong, Lyndon'" <Lyong@Ciena.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Cc: CCAMP <ccamp@ietf.org>, Kimberly Chiu <kchiu@oiforum.com> Subject: [CCAMP] Response to OIF Communication Dated March 4, 2010 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 17:57:37 -0000 Dear Mr. Ong, Thank you for your communication related to Routing issues dated March 4, 2010. We are please to have, as anticipated in your communication, the active contribution of OIF participants at the IETF-77 CCAMP meetings. We particularly appreciate the OIF working within the IETF process and RFC4929. In the IETF-77 CCAMP session, the possibility of an update to RFC5787 was discussed. Such an update will need to follow the standard IETF and CCAMP processes. This process typically starts with an individual Internet-Draft. Based on discussions, we anticipate that CCAMP participants will submit such a Draft prior to the IETF-78 meeting. The minutes from the IETF-77 CCAMP sessions can be found at: http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ccamp/minutes?item=minutes77.html We look forward to the continued contribution of OIF participants to the CCAMP working group. Regards, Deborah Brungard and Lou Berger IETF CCAMP Working Group Co-Chairs From lberger@labn.net Tue May 4 10:57:43 2010 Return-Path: <lberger@labn.net> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 612A13A6A3C for <ccamp@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 4 May 2010 10:57:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.368 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.368 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.703, BAYES_50=0.001, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GW-cAB7v6BFY for <ccamp@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 4 May 2010 10:57:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F7963A6A34 for <ccamp@ietf.org>; Tue, 4 May 2010 10:57:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7742 invoked by uid 0); 4 May 2010 17:57:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 4 May 2010 17:57:28 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=labn.net; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Identified-User; b=dw1SgRvcStMkPABFHLiVqGk2YWKmFL+fkSQare/48+ea+NxjPdfvczY1SUC0oZjBw3eWO1K+fEuvmWDvl10WKRA2DrIhSnM6W+px5FPo5d1qwA6q/wVX5LIr2MvZKRSj; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <lberger@labn.net>) id 1O9MN6-0001eK-Qr; Tue, 04 May 2010 11:57:28 -0600 Message-ID: <4BE06026.6040109@labn.net> Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 13:57:58 -0400 From: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100301 Eudora/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "'Ong, Lyndon'" <Lyong@Ciena.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Cc: CCAMP <ccamp@ietf.org>, Kimberly Chiu <kchiu@oiforum.com> Subject: [CCAMP] Response to OIF Communication on OIF Requirements X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 17:57:43 -0000 Dear Mr. Ong, Thank you for your communication related to OIF Requirements dated March 4, 2010. The communication referenced an anticipated Internet Draft on the topic of requirements for automatic link configuration. We understand that this draft was submitted as draft-roch-ccamp-reqts-auto-adj-00.txt. This draft was presented and discussed in the IETF-77 CCAMP meeting. (See http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ccamp/minutes?item=minutes77.html) At the meeting, some expressed interest in the requirements as well as the possibility that some of the requirements can be fulfilled using existing mechanisms. There was agreement that some individuals would work with the co-authors on a revised version of the document. We expect this document to now progress through normal working group process. We don't anticipate further formal communication on this matter. The second topic covered in communication related to draft-sadler-ccamp-rsvp-mt-bundled-links. No agenda slot on this draft was requested for IETF-77. A search of the CCAMP mail archive also fails to find any discussion on this topic. From a process perspective, the proper venue for a discussion of an Internet Draft is either in a working session or (preferably) on the working group mail list. We recommend that questions related to draft-sadler-ccamp-rsvp-mt-bundled-links be raised on the CCAMP mail list, ccamp@ietf.org, or in a future IETF session. It is also worth noting that the requirements identified in this draft seem to have commonality with the requirements listed in draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-requirement. Regards, Deborah Brungard and Lou Berger IETF CCAMP Working Group Co-Chairs From venkatflex@gmail.com Thu May 6 11:09:15 2010 Return-Path: <venkatflex@gmail.com> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473743A6A3F; Thu, 6 May 2010 11:09:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.957 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.957 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.959, BAYES_50=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h1njgqsjdkxu; Thu, 6 May 2010 11:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pz0-f182.google.com (mail-pz0-f182.google.com [209.85.222.182]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 874FF3A6ADA; Thu, 6 May 2010 11:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pzk12 with SMTP id 12so117836pzk.32 for <multiple recipients>; Thu, 06 May 2010 11:08:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=2GsxG2a0EKGYvmX6znKYh7F0aq17ABjx3Bhn/vgt9C4=; b=a3vJd83RyKwjMTiEIO9hmrWHISBuJIez4v58bP6g/j7PxWyZK7SzAOEnCSuMut9deR MbH149L6sZw9ORQMSL04WOdGN/JKd+HpecgCZ1N/KEO5jEGBerW6S8ViNMUju9XSJjZ8 rFfuramJrDkX3Ycf4drkTSR52th/6zrhT9AUc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=se23jKXWi1hvoE2UHn5whxosoZIPYPVkKu2WE//T/qKFgtXkzZkLvBZUaxIS/+Dqv7 4rMNoCfbYBVAQjw0hiN2o9c7SZCOWbFT4wZWUosGIliwm/hIbHtuVV+IV9qcbofOmjYZ TA1lP0skqfzz/LDkrsKcsf3kJ8RlVFG9/mfJ4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.66.11 with SMTP id o11mr2527044wfa.121.1273169337886; Thu, 06 May 2010 11:08:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.53.16 with HTTP; Thu, 6 May 2010 11:08:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <C7EE0C65.241B2%swallow@cisco.com> References: <79F41BA1E9BF3C489375521EF8DDE23C12B1B1A5BB@ESESSCMS0355.eemea.ericsson.se> <C7EE0C65.241B2%swallow@cisco.com> Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 23:38:57 +0530 Message-ID: <q2k715756491005061108r650202bfm6c36bc6d31a4b7cb@mail.gmail.com> From: venkatesan mahalingam <venkatflex@gmail.com> To: George Swallow <swallow@cisco.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e0b9b81fabd70485f0d61f X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 06 May 2010 11:18:22 -0700 Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" <mpls@ietf.org>, "ccamp@ietf.org" <ccamp@ietf.org>, Attila Takacs <Attila.Takacs@ericsson.com>, "mpls-tp@ietf.org" <mpls-tp@ietf.org>, "pwe3@ietf.org" <pwe3@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [mpls] [mpls-tp] mpls wg last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-identifiers-01 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 18:09:15 -0000 --001636e0b9b81fabd70485f0d61f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi George, >> Is it there to support associated unidirectional Tunnels/LSPs? If so it should >> be called out in the text. >That was not my original intent, but you are quite correct that this would >be very useful. Particularly if the associated tunnels pass through a share >mid-point somewhere along the path. VM: Can you please explain the original intention with an example? >> -In Section 5.3 Mapping to GMPLS signaling does not use the Dst-Tunnel_Num. So >> this means that we may have two different tunnels identified with >> Src-Node_ID::Src-Tunnel_Num:: Dst-Node_ID::Dst-Tunnel_Num. Is this intentional, >> e.g., the associated unidirectional case? >For the associated unidirectional, this works perfectly. For bidirectional, >I was thinking of two options. >1) Strict binding - both ends are configure with the full identifier and >will only accept the connection if everything matches. >2) Dynamic binding - Source signals with just its Tunnel_Num. RESV message >would carry back the destination's tunnel_num. Note that both ends need >both pieces for some of the OAM to work. VM: Do we need extensions in the RSVP-TE signaling to carry back the destination's tunnel_num in the RESV message? Thanks, Venkatesan Mahalingam On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:15 PM, George Swallow <swallow@cisco.com> wrote: > > > > On 4/2/10 2:53 AM, "Attila Takacs" <Attila.Takacs@ericsson.com> wrote: > > > Hi Matthew and George, > > > > Please find some comments/questions below. > > > > -In Section 5.1 you have: > > > > Src-Node_ID::Src-Tunnel_Num::Dst-Node_ID::Dst-Tunnel_Num > > > > What is the reason of having a Dst-Tunnel_Num besides the Src-Tunnel_Num? > > Existing implementations of RSVP-TE have used the tunnel space as global to > the node. It is difficult if not impossible to coordinate such spaces > between nodes. In RSVP-TE the coordination does not matter, since the tail > end of the tunnel doesn't have a real interface - it only receives and > usually with a PHP of the tunnel label, so the packets only belong to the > physical interface. > > In a bidirectional world, separate tunnel spaces at the two ends becomes > useful. > > If this independence is not need is some environments then one can > configure > just one value and use it in both fields. > > > Is it there to support associated unidirectional Tunnels/LSPs? If so it > should > > be called out in the text. > > That was not my original intent, but you are quite correct that this would > be very useful. Particularly if the associated tunnels pass through a > share > mid-point somewhere along the path. > > > Same applies to the globally unique case. > > Of course. > > > -In Section 5.2 you simply append one LSP_Num to the above. This is a bit > > confusing to me, if there are Src/Dst Tunnel_Nums then two LSP_Nums would > be > > needed too, wouldn't it? > > Once, you have independent tunnel-ids, coordination of the LSP numbers > becomes easy. It also could be used to allow the two ends to readily > identify which is working and which is protection. > > > -In Section 5.3 Mapping to GMPLS signaling does not use the > Dst-Tunnel_Num. So > > this means that we may have two different tunnels identified with > > Src-Node_ID::Src-Tunnel_Num::Dst-Node_ID::Dst-Tunnel_Num. Is this > intentional, > > e.g., the associated unidirectional case? > > For the associated unidirectional, this works perfectly. For > bidirectional, > I was thinking of two options. > > 1) Strict binding - both ends are configure with the full identifier and > will only accept the connection if everything matches. > > 2) Dynamic binding - Source signals with just its Tunnel_Num. RESV > message > would carry back the destination's tunnel_num. Note that both ends need > both pieces for some of the OAM to work. > > > This should be clarified. > > I'll see what I can do. But this is not supposed to the MPLS-TP signaling > draft. > > > Hmm, maybe the Dst-Tunnel_Num should be omitted altogether. > > I'm planning to keep it. > > > -Section 7 has a note saying to be aligned with the OAM fwk, is this > still to > > be done? > > Yes. That draft is also being updated. We appear to be converging. > > > -In section 7.1.2.1 there is a discussion on Tunnel MEG IDs. > > How would Tunnel and LSP MEGs be used? What OAM would run at the Tunnel > level > > and not at the LSP level? > > > > Do we need Tunnel MEG_IDs as defined in 7.1.2.1? > > I had been told early on that MEGs were needed for tunnels. Now getting > comments that they are not (same comment is in the ITU liaison). So I > planning to remove it, unless I hear other opinions. > > > -Section 7.1.2.2, the Dst-Tunnel_Num question applies here too. > > See above. > > > -Section 8 talks about open issues? When will these be addressed? > > Before it is re-issued. Goal is end of next week. > > ...George > > > Thanks, > > Attila > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On > >> Behalf Of Loa Andersson > >> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 12:33 AM > >> To: mpls@ietf.org; mpls-tp@ietf.org; pwe3@ietf.org; ccamp@ietf.org > >> Subject: [mpls] mpls wg last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-identifiers-01 > >> > >> All, > >> > >> this is to start an MPLS working group last call on > >> draft-ietf-mpls-tp-identifiers-01 > >> > >> There is a discussion on the OAM model for MS-PWs where we > >> haven't been able to come to conclusion. Once we reach > >> agreement the document will be updated. Comments in this area > >> are welcome during the working group last call. > >> > >> > >> Please send your comments to the mpls-tp@ietf.org mailing list. > >> > >> The working group last ends eob April 2nd. > >> > >> /Loa > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Loa Andersson > >> > >> Sr Strategy and Standards Manager > >> Ericsson /// > >> phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > >> +46 767 72 92 13 > >> > >> email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com > >> loa@pi.nu > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> mpls mailing list > >> mpls@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > mpls-tp mailing list > > mpls-tp@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-tp > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > -- Best Regards, Venkatesan Mahalingam. --001636e0b9b81fabd70485f0d61f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi George,<br>>> Is it there to support associated unidirectional Tun= nels/LSPs? If so it should<br> >> be called out in the text.<br> <br> >That was not my original intent, but you are quite correct that this wo= uld<br> >be very useful. =A0Particularly if the associated tunnels pass through = a share<br> >mid-point somewhere along the path.<br>VM: Can you please explain the o= riginal intention with an example? <br><br><br>>> -In Section 5.3 Map= ping to GMPLS signaling does not use the Dst-Tunnel_Num. So<br> >> this means that we may have two different tunnels identified with<= br> >> Src-Node_ID::Src-Tunnel_Num::<div class=3D"im">Dst-Node_ID::Dst-Tu= nnel_Num. Is this intentional,<br> >> e.g., the associated unidirectional case?<br> <br> </div>>For the associated unidirectional, this works perfectly. =A0For b= idirectional,<br> >I was thinking of two options.<br> <br> >1) =A0Strict binding =A0- =A0both ends are configure with the full iden= tifier and<br> >will only accept the connection if everything matches.<br> <br> >2) =A0Dynamic binding - Source signals with just its Tunnel_Num. =A0RES= V message<br> >would carry back the destination's tunnel_num. =A0Note that both en= ds need<br> >both pieces for some of the OAM to work.<br>VM: Do we need extensions i= n the RSVP-TE signaling to carry back the destination's tunnel_num in t= he RESV message?<br><br>Thanks,<br>Venkatesan Mahalingam<br><br><div class= =3D"gmail_quote"> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:15 PM, George Swallow <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a h= ref=3D"mailto:swallow@cisco.com">swallow@cisco.com</a>></span> wrote:<br= ><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,= 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class=3D"im"><br> <br> <br> On 4/2/10 2:53 AM, "Attila Takacs" <<a href=3D"mailto:Attila.T= akacs@ericsson.com">Attila.Takacs@ericsson.com</a>> wrote:<br> <br> > Hi Matthew and George,<br> ><br> > Please find some comments/questions below.<br> ><br> > -In Section 5.1 you have:<br> ><br> > Src-Node_ID::Src-Tunnel_Num::Dst-Node_ID::Dst-Tunnel_Num<br> ><br> > What is the reason of having a Dst-Tunnel_Num besides the Src-Tunnel_N= um?<br> <br> </div>Existing implementations of RSVP-TE have used the tunnel space as glo= bal to<br> the node. =A0It is difficult if not impossible to coordinate such spaces<br= > between nodes. =A0In RSVP-TE the coordination does not matter, since the ta= il<br> end of the tunnel doesn't have a real interface - it only receives and<= br> usually with a PHP of the tunnel label, so the packets only belong to the<b= r> physical interface.<br> <br> In a bidirectional world, separate tunnel spaces at the two ends becomes<br= > useful.<br> <br> If this independence is not need is some environments then one can configur= e<br> just one value and use it in both fields.<br> <div class=3D"im"><br> > Is it there to support associated unidirectional Tunnels/LSPs? If so i= t should<br> > be called out in the text.<br> <br> </div>That was not my original intent, but you are quite correct that this = would<br> be very useful. =A0Particularly if the associated tunnels pass through a sh= are<br> mid-point somewhere along the path.<br> <div class=3D"im"><br> > Same applies to the globally unique case.<br> <br> </div>Of course.<br> <div class=3D"im"><br> > -In Section 5.2 you simply append one LSP_Num to the above. This is a = bit<br> > confusing to me, if there are Src/Dst Tunnel_Nums then two LSP_Nums wo= uld be<br> > needed too, wouldn't it?<br> <br> </div>Once, you have independent tunnel-ids, coordination of the LSP number= s<br> becomes easy. =A0It also could be used to allow the two ends to readily<br> identify which is working and which is protection.<br> <div class=3D"im"><br> > -In Section 5.3 Mapping to GMPLS signaling does not use the Dst-Tunnel= _Num. So<br> > this means that we may have two different tunnels identified with<br> > Src-Node_ID::Src-Tunnel_Num::Dst-Node_ID::Dst-Tunnel_Num. Is this inte= ntional,<br> > e.g., the associated unidirectional case?<br> <br> </div>For the associated unidirectional, this works perfectly. =A0For bidir= ectional,<br> I was thinking of two options.<br> <br> 1) =A0Strict binding =A0- =A0both ends are configure with the full identifi= er and<br> will only accept the connection if everything matches.<br> <br> 2) =A0Dynamic binding - Source signals with just its Tunnel_Num. =A0RESV me= ssage<br> would carry back the destination's tunnel_num. =A0Note that both ends n= eed<br> both pieces for some of the OAM to work.<br> <br> > This should be clarified.<br> <br> I'll see what I can do. =A0But this is not supposed to the MPLS-TP sign= aling<br> draft.<br> <div class=3D"im"><br> > Hmm, maybe the Dst-Tunnel_Num should be omitted altogether.<br> <br> </div>I'm planning to keep it.<br> <div class=3D"im"><br> > -Section 7 has a note saying to be aligned with the OAM fwk, is this s= till to<br> > be done?<br> <br> </div>Yes. =A0That draft is also being updated. =A0We appear to be convergi= ng.<br> <div class=3D"im"><br> > -In section 7.1.2.1 there is a discussion on Tunnel MEG IDs.<br> > How would Tunnel and LSP MEGs be used? What OAM would run at the Tunne= l level<br> > and not at the LSP level?<br> ><br> > Do we need Tunnel MEG_IDs as defined in 7.1.2.1?<br> <br> </div>I had been told early on that MEGs were needed for tunnels. =A0Now ge= tting<br> comments that they are not (same comment is in the ITU liaison). =A0So I<br= > planning to remove it, unless I hear other opinions.<br> <div class=3D"im"><br> > -Section 7.1.2.2, the Dst-Tunnel_Num question applies here too.<br> <br> </div>See above.<br> <div class=3D"im"><br> > -Section 8 talks about open issues? When will these be addressed?<br> <br> </div>Before it is re-issued. =A0Goal is end of next week.<br> <br> ...George<br> <div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br> > Thanks,<br> > Attila<br> ><br> >> -----Original Message-----<br> >> From: <a href=3D"mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org">mpls-bounces@ietf.o= rg</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org">mpls-bounces@ietf.o= rg</a>] On<br> >> Behalf Of Loa Andersson<br> >> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 12:33 AM<br> >> To: <a href=3D"mailto:mpls@ietf.org">mpls@ietf.org</a>; <a href=3D= "mailto:mpls-tp@ietf.org">mpls-tp@ietf.org</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:pwe3@ietf= .org">pwe3@ietf.org</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</= a><br> >> Subject: [mpls] mpls wg last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-identifier= s-01<br> >><br> >> All,<br> >><br> >> this is to start an MPLS working group last call on<br> >> draft-ietf-mpls-tp-identifiers-01<br> >><br> >> There is a discussion on the OAM model for MS-PWs where we<br> >> haven't been able to come to conclusion. Once we reach<br> >> agreement the document will be updated. Comments in this area<br> >> are welcome during the working group last call.<br> >><br> >><br> >> Please send your comments to the <a href=3D"mailto:mpls-tp@ietf.or= g">mpls-tp@ietf.org</a> mailing list.<br> >><br> >> The working group last ends eob April 2nd.<br> >><br> >> /Loa<br> >><br> >> --<br> >><br> >> Loa Andersson<br> >><br> >> Sr Strategy and Standards Manager<br> >> Ericsson ///<br> >> =A0 =A0phone: =A0+46 10 717 52 13<br> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0+46 767 72 92 13<br> >><br> >> =A0 =A0email: =A0<a href=3D"mailto:loa.andersson@ericsson.com">loa= .andersson@ericsson.com</a><br> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<a href=3D"mailto:loa@pi.nu">loa@pi.nu</a><= br> >><br> >><br> >><br> >><br> >> _______________________________________________<br> >> mpls mailing list<br> >> <a href=3D"mailto:mpls@ietf.org">mpls@ietf.org</a><br> >> <a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls" target=3D"_= blank">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls</a><br> >><br> > _______________________________________________<br> </div></div>> mpls-tp mailing list<br> > <a href=3D"mailto:mpls-tp@ietf.org">mpls-tp@ietf.org</a><br> > <a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-tp" target=3D"_b= lank">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-tp</a><br> <div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br> _______________________________________________<br> mpls mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:mpls@ietf.org">mpls@ietf.org</a><br> <a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls" target=3D"_blank">ht= tps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls</a><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Best Regard= s,<br>Venkatesan Mahalingam.<br> --001636e0b9b81fabd70485f0d61f-- From lberger@labn.net Thu May 6 11:34:05 2010 Return-Path: <lberger@labn.net> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C863A6973 for <ccamp@core3.amsl.com>; 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RESV > message > >would carry back the destination's tunnel_num. Note that both ends need > >both pieces for some of the OAM to work. > VM: Do we need extensions in the RSVP-TE signaling to carry back the > destination's tunnel_num in the RESV message? We are expecting the WG to come up with an explicit definition of signaling support for associated bidirectional within the CCAMP WG. The options mentioned to date, in no particular order are: - using association objects (draft-zhang-mpls-tp-rsvpte-ext-associated-lsp) - using calls - using LSP_TUNNEL_INTERFACE_ID objects There is not yet consensus (or WG drafts) on this topic. Lou From curtis@occnc.com Thu May 6 13:52:44 2010 Return-Path: <curtis@occnc.com> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19DEF3A6C56 for <ccamp@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 6 May 2010 13:52:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.457 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.457 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.458, BAYES_50=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7sPmiaerUFar for <ccamp@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 6 May 2010 13:52:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harbor.orleans.occnc.com (harbor.orleans.occnc.com [173.9.106.135]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD673A6928 for <ccamp@ietf.org>; Thu, 6 May 2010 13:51:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harbor.orleans.occnc.com (harbor.orleans.occnc.com [173.9.106.135]) by harbor.orleans.occnc.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o46KpW9Y013106; Thu, 6 May 2010 16:51:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from curtis@harbor.orleans.occnc.com) Message-Id: <201005062051.o46KpW9Y013106@harbor.orleans.occnc.com> To: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> From: Curtis Villamizar <curtis@occnc.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 26 Apr 2010 09:12:47 EDT." <4BD5914F.10708@labn.net> Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 16:51:32 -0400 Sender: curtis@occnc.com Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Hello Message X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: curtis@occnc.com List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 20:52:44 -0000 In message <4BD5914F.10708@labn.net> Lou Berger writes: > > Vishwas, > > I have to say, I really don't see an issue here. Recall that in 3209 DP > and CP adjacencies are congruent, so there is no ambiguity. In the > cases where hellos are exchanged between non-immediate neighbors (GMPLS > or MPLS), TTL shouldn't be set to 1. I think this case is fairly > clearly covered too. To be specific, how would you like to see the text > changed? For example, do you want the text to read: > > Current 3209: > When HELLO messages are being the exchanged between immediate > neighbors, the IP TTL field of all outgoing HELLO messages SHOULD be > set to 1. > Add > Additionally, when HELLO messages are not being the exchanged > between immediate neighbors, the IP TTL field of all outgoing HELLO > messages SHOULD NOT be set to 1. > > Seems a bit redundant and obvious. Don't you think? > > Am I missing something? > > Lou Except as modified by GTSM? Oops - did I just compound the confusion? It seems perfectly clear to me. Curtis > On 4/25/2010 8:50 PM, Vishwas Manral wrote: > > Hi Reshad, > > > > That is correct. > > > > All messages except the OAM and LMP test message are sent over the > > control plane. So immediate neighbors in the control plane too should > > not set the TTL to 1, unless they are sure the neighbor is directly > > connected in the IP layer. > > > > In my view, it is more than an ambiguity its not been taken care of at > > all in the spec. > > > > Thanks, > > Vishwas > > > > On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Reshad Rahman (rrahman) > > <rrahman@cisco.com> wrote: > >> Hi Vishwas, > >> > >> You're right I guess there's ambiguity as to whether immediate is referring to data-plane or control-plane. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Reshad. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Vishwas Manral [mailto:vishwas.ietf@gmail.com] > >> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 8:14 PM > >> To: Reshad Rahman (rrahman) > >> Cc: ccamp@ietf.org > >> Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Hello Message > >> > >> Hi Reshad, > >> > >> In GMPLS in the control plane the immediate neighbors may be more than > >> one IP Hop away. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Vishwas > >> > >> On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Reshad Rahman (rrahman) > >> <rrahman@cisco.com> wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I believe that TTL 1 is only for immediate neighbors. > >>> > >>> Regads, > >>> Reshad. > >>> > >>> When HELLO messages are being the exchanged between immediate > >>> neighbors, the IP TTL field of all outgoing HELLO messages SHOULD be > >>> set to 1. > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > >>> Of Vishwas Manral > >>> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 7:46 PM > >>> To: ccamp@ietf.org > >>> Subject: [CCAMP] Hello Message > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> While working on the document for RSVP-TE for IPv6 I noticed that > >>> RFC3209 specifies that the Hello Message TTL should be set to 1, > >>> however RFC3473 does not change the behavior. > >>> > >>> Shouldn't the TTL in the case of GMPLS be set to more than one as a > >>> control channel to he data plane nexthop could be multiple hops away? > >>> I think we should reccomend the use of the TTL value of 255. Besides > >>> for IPv6 it would be the Hop Limit field. > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Vishwas > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> CCAMP mailing list > >>> CCAMP@ietf.org > >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > >>> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > CCAMP mailing list > > CCAMP@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From lberger@labn.net Thu May 6 14:46:39 2010 Return-Path: <lberger@labn.net> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF6E3A6852 for <ccamp@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 6 May 2010 14:46:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.615 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.615 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.650, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OfURg81eBY-r for <ccamp@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 6 May 2010 14:46:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 622CA3A67A1 for <ccamp@ietf.org>; Thu, 6 May 2010 14:46:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 25824 invoked by uid 0); 6 May 2010 21:46:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 6 May 2010 21:46:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=labn.net; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Identified-User; b=rR/B/ctKGYFwAOIEwujBHMzd8sA7WpzGex8+arTwMtyUbd9Zoq5FFme60VgPROe3CVzIVv1kiOFa/O3ykuuZUj1+sUo4wIf1/UMOk86lU/HVLz04mJrRiXA3uMdL/HMr; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <lberger@labn.net>) id 1OA8tl-0005ce-Jt; Thu, 06 May 2010 15:46:25 -0600 Message-ID: <4BE338B4.4070801@labn.net> Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 17:46:28 -0400 From: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100301 Eudora/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: curtis@occnc.com References: <201005062051.o46KpW9Y013106@harbor.orleans.occnc.com> In-Reply-To: <201005062051.o46KpW9Y013106@harbor.orleans.occnc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Hello Message X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 21:46:39 -0000 Curtis, If there are GTSM specific implications, e.g., to negotiate when GTSM is to be used, they need to be in a GTSM specific document... Lou On 5/6/2010 4:51 PM, Curtis Villamizar wrote: > In message<4BD5914F.10708@labn.net> > Lou Berger writes: >> >> Vishwas, >> >> I have to say, I really don't see an issue here. Recall that in 3209 DP >> and CP adjacencies are congruent, so there is no ambiguity. In the >> cases where hellos are exchanged between non-immediate neighbors (GMPLS >> or MPLS), TTL shouldn't be set to 1. I think this case is fairly >> clearly covered too. To be specific, how would you like to see the text >> changed? For example, do you want the text to read: >> >> Current 3209: >> When HELLO messages are being the exchanged between immediate >> neighbors, the IP TTL field of all outgoing HELLO messages SHOULD be >> set to 1. >> Add >> Additionally, when HELLO messages are not being the exchanged >> between immediate neighbors, the IP TTL field of all outgoing HELLO >> messages SHOULD NOT be set to 1. >> >> Seems a bit redundant and obvious. Don't you think? >> >> Am I missing something? >> >> Lou > > > Except as modified by GTSM? Oops - did I just compound the confusion? > > It seems perfectly clear to me. > > Curtis > > >> On 4/25/2010 8:50 PM, Vishwas Manral wrote: >>> Hi Reshad, >>> >>> That is correct. >>> >>> All messages except the OAM and LMP test message are sent over the >>> control plane. So immediate neighbors in the control plane too should >>> not set the TTL to 1, unless they are sure the neighbor is directly >>> connected in the IP layer. >>> >>> In my view, it is more than an ambiguity its not been taken care of at >>> all in the spec. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Vishwas >>> >>> On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Reshad Rahman (rrahman) >>> <rrahman@cisco.com> wrote: >>>> Hi Vishwas, >>>> >>>> You're right I guess there's ambiguity as to whether immediate is referring to data-plane or control-plane. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Reshad. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Vishwas Manral [mailto:vishwas.ietf@gmail.com] >>>> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 8:14 PM >>>> To: Reshad Rahman (rrahman) >>>> Cc: ccamp@ietf.org >>>> Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Hello Message >>>> >>>> Hi Reshad, >>>> >>>> In GMPLS in the control plane the immediate neighbors may be more than >>>> one IP Hop away. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Vishwas >>>> >>>> On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Reshad Rahman (rrahman) >>>> <rrahman@cisco.com> wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I believe that TTL 1 is only for immediate neighbors. >>>>> >>>>> Regads, >>>>> Reshad. >>>>> >>>>> When HELLO messages are being the exchanged between immediate >>>>> neighbors, the IP TTL field of all outgoing HELLO messages SHOULD be >>>>> set to 1. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf >>>>> Of Vishwas Manral >>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 7:46 PM >>>>> To: ccamp@ietf.org >>>>> Subject: [CCAMP] Hello Message >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> While working on the document for RSVP-TE for IPv6 I noticed that >>>>> RFC3209 specifies that the Hello Message TTL should be set to 1, >>>>> however RFC3473 does not change the behavior. >>>>> >>>>> Shouldn't the TTL in the case of GMPLS be set to more than one as a >>>>> control channel to he data plane nexthop could be multiple hops away? >>>>> I think we should reccomend the use of the TTL value of 255. Besides >>>>> for IPv6 it would be the Hop Limit field. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Vishwas >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> CCAMP mailing list >>>>> CCAMP@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >>>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CCAMP mailing list >>> CCAMP@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> CCAMP mailing list >> CCAMP@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > > > From curtis@occnc.com Thu May 6 20:04:31 2010 Return-Path: <curtis@occnc.com> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7DA3A6920 for <ccamp@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 6 May 2010 20:04:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.652 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.652 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.947, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fsLHlhSkek49 for <ccamp@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 6 May 2010 20:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harbor.orleans.occnc.com (harbor.orleans.occnc.com [173.9.106.135]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED2EC3A6898 for <ccamp@ietf.org>; Thu, 6 May 2010 20:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harbor.orleans.occnc.com (harbor.orleans.occnc.com [173.9.106.135]) by harbor.orleans.occnc.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o4734EfM018639; Thu, 6 May 2010 23:04:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from curtis@harbor.orleans.occnc.com) Message-Id: <201005070304.o4734EfM018639@harbor.orleans.occnc.com> To: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> From: Curtis Villamizar <curtis@occnc.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 06 May 2010 17:46:28 EDT." <4BE338B4.4070801@labn.net> Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 23:04:14 -0400 Sender: curtis@occnc.com Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Hello Message X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: curtis@occnc.com List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 03:04:31 -0000 In message <4BE338B4.4070801@labn.net> Lou Berger writes: > > Curtis, > > If there are GTSM specific implications, e.g., to negotiate when GTSM > is to be used, they need to be in a GTSM specific document... > > Lou Lou, GTSM can be used on any protocol. That is the "G" in it. RFC 5082: 2.1. GTSM Negotiation This document assumes that, when used with existing protocols, GTSM will be manually configured between protocol peers. That is, no automatic GTSM capability negotiation, such as is provided by RFC 3392 [RFC3392], is assumed or defined. If both ends of the RSVP-TE adjacency are in the same admin domain, just configure it. Is so, it does change the TTL value, which is what was being discussed. The above paragraph acknowledges currrent practice. Curtis From zhang.fei3@zte.com.cn Fri May 7 00:09:32 2010 Return-Path: <zhang.fei3@zte.com.cn> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2189E3A6C49; Fri, 7 May 2010 00:09:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.238 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.238 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_DOUBLE_IP_LOOSE=0.76, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Y9sBaE6aOll9; Fri, 7 May 2010 00:09:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx5.zte.com.cn (mx5.zte.com.cn [63.217.80.70]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A7193A6BE1; Fri, 7 May 2010 00:09:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.30.17.100] by mx5.zte.com.cn with surfront esmtp id 368872043691617; Fri, 7 May 2010 15:04:18 +0800 (CST) Received: from [192.168.168.1] by [192.168.168.16] with StormMail ESMTP id 74234.7701846536; Fri, 7 May 2010 15:04:43 +0800 (CST) Received: from notes_smtp.zte.com.cn ([10.30.1.239]) by mse2.zte.com.cn with ESMTP id o4775xUC028480; Fri, 7 May 2010 15:06:00 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from zhang.fei3@zte.com.cn) To: loa.andersson@ericsson.com, lberger@labn.net, lufang@cisco.com, nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com, attila.takacs@ericsson.com, elisa.bellagamba@ericsson.com, Eric.Gray@Ericsson.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.4 March 27, 2005 Message-ID: <OF061A4CCE.E73D71E1-ON4825771C.0026ACAB-4825771C.0027702B@zte.com.cn> From: zhang.fei3@zte.com.cn Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 15:05:38 +0800 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on notes_smtp/zte_ltd(Release 6.5.4|March 27, 2005) at 2010-05-07 15:05:50, Serialize complete at 2010-05-07 15:05:50 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0027702A4825771C_=" X-MAIL: mse2.zte.com.cn o4775xUC028480 Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" <mpls@ietf.org>, "ccamp@ietf.org" <ccamp@ietf.org>, "mpls-tp@ietf.org" <mpls-tp@ietf.org> Subject: [CCAMP] confusion about the description in draft-ietf-ccamp-mpls-tp-cp-framework-01 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 07:09:32 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0027702A4825771C_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi, loa, all I am a little confused by some description in draft-ietf-ccamp-mpls-tp-cp-framework-01, and need your help: 118. The MPLS-TP control plane must provide functionality to enable an Intermediate Point of a PW or LSP to report, to an End Point of that same PW or LSP, a lock condition indirectly affecting that PW or LSP [TP-OAM-REQ, section 2.2.7., paragraph 1]. Q1: the lock reporting can be realized by the fault management OAM message, as described in draft-ietf-mpls-tp-fault. Here do you mean that this lcok reporting can be realized by the CP notification message also? If that is true, why not adding ASI/LDI? 4.4.5. Test Traffic Control and other OAM functions [CCAMP-OAM-FWK] and [CCAMP-OAM-EXT] are works in progress that extend the OAM related control capabilities of GMPLS. These extensions cover a portion, but not all OAM related control functions that have been identified in the context of MPLS-TP. As discussed above, the MPLS-TP control plane must support the selection of which (if any) OAM function(s) to use (including support to select experimental OAM functions) and what OAM functionality to run, including, continuity check (CC), connectivity verification (CV), packet loss and delay quantification, and diagnostic testing of a service. As OAM configuration is directly linked to data plane OAM, it is expected that [CCAMP-OAM-EXT] will evolve in parallel with the specification of data plane OAM functions. Q2: the function of diagnostic testing (such as LB and throughput) is on-demand, but it is said that "hence configuration and control of on-demand OAM functions are out-of-scope for this document" in [CCAMP-OAM-EXT]. So the diagnostic testing control will be updated in the new version of CCAMP-OAM-EXT, or just need another document? Best regards Fei --=_alternative 0027702A4825771C_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Hi, loa, all</font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I am a little confused by some description in draft-ietf-ccamp-mpls-tp-cp-framework-01, and need your help:</font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">    118. The MPLS-TP control plane must provide functionality to enable</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">         an Intermediate Point of a PW or LSP to report, to an End Point</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">         of that same PW or LSP, a lock condition indirectly affecting</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">         that PW or LSP [TP-OAM-REQ, section 2.2.7., paragraph 1].</font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Q1: the lock reporting can be realized by the fault management OAM message, as described in draft-ietf-mpls-tp-fault. Here do you</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">mean that this lcok reporting can be realized by the CP notification message also? If that is true, why not adding ASI/LDI?</font> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">4.4.5. Test Traffic Control and other OAM functions</font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">   [CCAMP-OAM-FWK] and [CCAMP-OAM-EXT] are works in progress that extend</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">   the OAM related control capabilities of GMPLS.  These extensions</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">   cover a portion, but not all OAM related control functions that have</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">   been identified in the context of MPLS-TP.  As discussed above, the</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">   MPLS-TP control plane must support the selection of which (if any)</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">   OAM function(s) to use (including support to select experimental OAM</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">   functions) and what OAM functionality to run, including, continuity</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">   check (CC), connectivity verification (CV), packet loss and delay</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">   quantification, and diagnostic testing of a service. As OAM</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">   configuration is directly linked to data plane OAM, it is expected</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">   that [CCAMP-OAM-EXT] will evolve in parallel with the specification</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">   of data plane OAM functions.</font> <br> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">   Q2: the function of diagnostic testing (such as LB and throughput) is on-demand, but it is said that</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">   "hence configuration and control of on-demand OAM functions are out-of-scope</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">   for this document" in [CCAMP-OAM-EXT]. So the diagnostic testing control will be updated in the new version</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">   of CCAMP-OAM-EXT, or just need another document?</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">   </font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">   Best regards</font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">   </font> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">   Fei</font> --=_alternative 0027702A4825771C_=-- From lberger@labn.net Fri May 7 06:01:17 2010 Return-Path: <lberger@labn.net> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 731B83A69ED for <ccamp@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 7 May 2010 06:01:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.653 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.653 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.612, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S6YhFoVS67Nn for <ccamp@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 7 May 2010 06:01:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outbound-mail-313.bluehost.com (cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7E38C3A6837 for <ccamp@ietf.org>; Fri, 7 May 2010 06:01:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 30332 invoked by uid 0); 7 May 2010 13:01:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 7 May 2010 13:01:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=labn.net; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Identified-User; b=h2kYKayFqvUzNy7C6kffQnmxS/aPrM91jBtpHCG/9Y1LXa4529IRzl2EhZvkt2YwYZhwQRquHHs31MCFcm+qreRnUvAhoyzk9ftsZzzc5+eQDcueO0810SmnRqtg+XUh; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <lberger@labn.net>) id 1OANAt-00028Y-Ar; Fri, 07 May 2010 07:01:04 -0600 Message-ID: <4BE40F16.6020107@labn.net> Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 09:01:10 -0400 From: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100301 Eudora/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: curtis@occnc.com References: <201005070304.o4734EfM018639@harbor.orleans.occnc.com> In-Reply-To: <201005070304.o4734EfM018639@harbor.orleans.occnc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Hello Message X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 May 2010 13:01:17 -0000 I was referring to the last paragraph in the same section: Also note that this specification does not offer a generic GTSM capability negotiation mechanism, so messages of the protocol augmented with the GTSM behavior will need to be used if dynamic negotiation is deemed necessary. Lou On 5/6/2010 11:04 PM, Curtis Villamizar wrote: > In message<4BE338B4.4070801@labn.net> > Lou Berger writes: >> >> Curtis, >> >> If there are GTSM specific implications, e.g., to negotiate when GTSM >> is to be used, they need to be in a GTSM specific document... >> >> Lou > > > Lou, > > GTSM can be used on any protocol. That is the "G" in it. > > RFC 5082: > > 2.1. GTSM Negotiation > > This document assumes that, when used with existing protocols, GTSM > will be manually configured between protocol peers. That is, no > automatic GTSM capability negotiation, such as is provided by RFC > 3392 [RFC3392], is assumed or defined. > > If both ends of the RSVP-TE adjacency are in the same admin domain, > just configure it. Is so, it does change the TTL value, which is what > was being discussed. The above paragraph acknowledges currrent > practice. > > Curtis > > > From loa@pi.nu Tue May 11 06:41:07 2010 Return-Path: <loa@pi.nu> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92793A6891; Tue, 11 May 2010 06:41:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.185 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.185 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id asXUzJWbiaZQ; Tue, 11 May 2010 06:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.pi.nu (mail.pi.nu [194.71.127.148]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3AA3A68DC; Tue, 11 May 2010 06:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [90.232.89.99] (host-90-232-89-99.mobileonline.telia.com [90.232.89.99]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by mail.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DA04AD404F; Tue, 11 May 2010 15:39:26 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 15:41:09 +0200 From: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "mpls-tp@ietf.org" <mpls-tp@ietf.org>, CCAMP WG <ccamp@ietf.org>, pwe3@ietf.org, mpls@ietf.org, MPLS-TP ad hoc team <ahmpls-tp@lists.itu.int> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 13:41:07 -0000 All, this is start a two week poll on making http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt an mpls working group document. To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp mailing list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support or non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but with another subject. The poll ends eob May 25th. /Loa -- Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 From elisa.bellagamba@ericsson.com Tue May 11 06:52:16 2010 Return-Path: <elisa.bellagamba@ericsson.com> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 379833A690B; Tue, 11 May 2010 06:52:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.999, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ckoZQ3Hk6+WE; Tue, 11 May 2010 06:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw9.se.ericsson.net (mailgw9.se.ericsson.net [193.180.251.57]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C46F53A6939; Tue, 11 May 2010 06:51:49 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb39-b7c85ae000005565-ae-4be960e9e34a Received: from esessmw0247.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw9.se.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 09.E6.21861.9E069EB4; Tue, 11 May 2010 15:51:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.40]) by esessmw0247.eemea.ericsson.se ([10.2.3.116]) with mapi; Tue, 11 May 2010 15:51:37 +0200 From: Elisa Bellagamba <elisa.bellagamba@ericsson.com> To: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>, "mpls-tp@ietf.org" <mpls-tp@ietf.org>, CCAMP WG <ccamp@ietf.org>, "pwe3@ietf.org" <pwe3@ietf.org>, "mpls@ietf.org" <mpls@ietf.org>, MPLS-TP ad hoc team <ahmpls-tp@lists.itu.int> Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 15:51:36 +0200 Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document Thread-Index: AcrxD59r7PT7VtdYQr+j5rmn198SjAAAUwHw Message-ID: <55EA962132DCC84286EB4429B9CA773A1DA99C8670@ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se> References: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: Re: [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 13:52:16 -0000 Yes/Support Ciao, Elisa -----Original Message----- From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of L= oa Andersson Sent: den 11 maj 2010 15:41 To: mpls-tp@ietf.org; CCAMP WG; pwe3@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org; MPLS-TP ad ho= c team Subject: [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working= group document All, this is start a two week poll on making http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt an mpls working group document. 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The poll ends eob May 25th. /Loa --=20 Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From venkatflex@gmail.com Tue May 11 06:58:33 2010 Return-Path: <venkatflex@gmail.com> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF6C63A6816; Tue, 11 May 2010 06:58:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.18 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.18 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.418, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Gc96c4c3OWlf; Tue, 11 May 2010 06:58:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pw0-f44.google.com (mail-pw0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C703E3A68F1; Tue, 11 May 2010 06:58:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pwj2 with SMTP id 2so2506748pwj.31 for <multiple recipients>; Tue, 11 May 2010 06:58:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=59FFsa/747TV7+2nIERTz2l/kfu8FBpBrKF/9ZNBo1o=; b=X7CnCTzhLxu6cnGlgfWIDzMysIiZ+i1d3m+mfGGkjVYsqmZFmlwcPTSpW1DTfL07xj WObo+vsRbGrcjZbNey52kY1GYSuppdQS4YDVC+KVVM8RNCWy3e5dyMRrgqTun/H0rvsr c1XZccTsh/aXbFg0fj0VlE0wJTKANDGfWfA3M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=UxfDFaf37/sNV4WR0qG2iC3G0Qr74q8BTGw6Bn5kEGfklKT7hnsuDvOMB8UY82HaUQ bYi/pijOclO/Opk3KdVFN8JMHkYbYcTV5TJ7YDX//dg6+1qpf8meQXWWFPn0PZ2faFft fuc6ed6fdkOwPrCSod6QLyidwydjPRCeNPn5Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.74.3 with SMTP id w3mr3794895wfa.243.1273586299492; Tue, 11 May 2010 06:58:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.53.16 with HTTP; Tue, 11 May 2010 06:58:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55EA962132DCC84286EB4429B9CA773A1DA99C8670@ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se> References: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> <55EA962132DCC84286EB4429B9CA773A1DA99C8670@ESESSCMS0356.eemea.ericsson.se> Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 19:28:19 +0530 Message-ID: <AANLkTinbU4f0xk1icG6khpawSkxMgjjdrMwvXhenYXDc@mail.gmail.com> From: venkatesan mahalingam <venkatflex@gmail.com> To: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>, "mpls-tp@ietf.org" <mpls-tp@ietf.org>, CCAMP WG <ccamp@ietf.org>, "pwe3@ietf.org" <pwe3@ietf.org>, "mpls@ietf.org" <mpls@ietf.org>, MPLS-TP ad hoc team <ahmpls-tp@lists.itu.int> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e1fb61f8d91c048651ea3e Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [mpls] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 13:58:34 -0000 --001636e1fb61f8d91c048651ea3e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes/Support. Regards, Venkat. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Elisa Bellagamba < elisa.bellagamba@ericsson.com> wrote: > > Yes/Support > > Ciao, > Elisa > > -----Original Message----- > From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Loa Andersson > Sent: den 11 maj 2010 15:41 > To: mpls-tp@ietf.org; CCAMP WG; pwe3@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org; MPLS-TP ad > hoc team > Subject: [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working > group document > > All, > > this is start a two week poll on making > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt > > an mpls working group document. > > To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp > mailing list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". > > Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support > or non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but > with another subject. > > The poll ends eob May 25th. > > /Loa > > > -- > > > Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > +46 767 72 92 13 > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > -- Best Regards, Venkatesan Mahalingam. --001636e1fb61f8d91c048651ea3e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div>Yes/Support.</div> <div>=A0</div> <div>Regards,</div> <div>Venkat.<br></div> <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Elisa Bellagamb= a <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:elisa.bellagamba@ericsson.com">el= isa.bellagamba@ericsson.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0= px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><br>Yes/Support<br><br>Ciao,<br>= Elisa<br> <div> <div></div> <div class=3D"h5"><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href=3D"mailto= :ccamp-bounces@ietf.org">ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"mail= to:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org">ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</a>] On Behalf Of Loa And= ersson<br> Sent: den 11 maj 2010 15:41<br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:mpls-tp@ietf.org">mpls= -tp@ietf.org</a>; CCAMP WG; <a href=3D"mailto:pwe3@ietf.org">pwe3@ietf.org<= /a>; <a href=3D"mailto:mpls@ietf.org">mpls@ietf.org</a>; MPLS-TP ad hoc tea= m<br> Subject: [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working= group document<br><br>All,<br><br>this is start a two week poll on making<= br><br><a href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd= -cc-cv-04.txt" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-= asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt</a><br> <br>an mpls working group document.<br><br>To respond to the poll please se= nd a mail to the mpls-tp<br>mailing list indicating "yes/support"= or "no/do not support".<br><br>Reviews, comments on the draft, o= r motivation for support<br> or non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but<br>with another= subject.<br><br>The poll ends eob May 25th.<br><br>/Loa<br><br><br>--<br><= br><br>Loa Andersson =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 email:= <a href=3D"mailto:loa.andersson@ericsson.com">loa.andersson@ericsson.com</= a><br> Sr Strategy and Standards Manager =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<a href=3D"mailto:= loa@pi.nu">loa@pi.nu</a><br>Ericsson Inc =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0phone: +46 10 717 52 13<br>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0+46 767 72 9= 2 13<br>_______________________________________________<br> </div></div>CCAMP mailing list<br><a href=3D"mailto:CCAMP@ietf.org">CCAMP@i= etf.org</a><br><a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp" targ= et=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp</a><br> <div> <div></div> <div class=3D"h5">_______________________________________________<br>mpls m= ailing list<br><a href=3D"mailto:mpls@ietf.org">mpls@ietf.org</a><br><a hre= f=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls" target=3D"_blank">https://= www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls</a><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Best Regard= s,<br>Venkatesan Mahalingam.<br> --001636e1fb61f8d91c048651ea3e-- From autumn.liu@ericsson.com Tue May 11 09:05:28 2010 Return-Path: <autumn.liu@ericsson.com> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C47973A6A26; Tue, 11 May 2010 09:05:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tsKcAPIuhs5F; Tue, 11 May 2010 09:05:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr1.ericy.com (imr1.ericy.com [198.24.6.9]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4553A3A6A03; Tue, 11 May 2010 09:05:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eusaamw0712.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.181]) by imr1.ericy.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o4BGAmQw001915; Tue, 11 May 2010 11:10:49 -0500 Received: from EUSAACMS0703.eamcs.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.224]) by eusaamw0712.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.181]) with mapi; Tue, 11 May 2010 12:05:13 -0400 From: Autumn Liu <autumn.liu@ericsson.com> To: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>, "mpls-tp@ietf.org" <mpls-tp@ietf.org>, CCAMP WG <ccamp@ietf.org>, "pwe3@ietf.org" <pwe3@ietf.org>, "mpls@ietf.org" <mpls@ietf.org>, MPLS-TP ad hoc team <ahmpls-tp@lists.itu.int> Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 12:05:06 -0400 Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document Thread-Index: AcrxD6s5YTyPoivLTNudNxH9euGXyQAE/zQw Message-ID: <60C093A41B5E45409A19D42CF7786DFD4F9AB96CA3@EUSAACMS0703.eamcs.ericsson.se> References: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 16:05:28 -0000 yes/support Cheers, Autumn -----Original Message----- From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of L= oa Andersson Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:41 AM To: mpls-tp@ietf.org; CCAMP WG; pwe3@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org; MPLS-TP ad ho= c team Subject: [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working= group document All, this is start a two week poll on making http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt an mpls working group document. To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp mailing list indic= ating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support or non-support sh= ould be sent to the same mailing list, but with another subject. The poll ends eob May 25th. /Loa --=20 Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 ____________= ___________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From nitinb@juniper.net Tue May 11 11:23:27 2010 Return-Path: <nitinb@juniper.net> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B189428C1DA; Tue, 11 May 2010 11:23:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.124 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.124 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.475, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZpE5YxyROTOq; Tue, 11 May 2010 11:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og111.obsmtp.com (exprod7og111.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.175]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4AB28C24F; Tue, 11 May 2010 11:19:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from source ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob111.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKS+mfq7L3imC3Osr9gfExq6ryTK75HKV6@postini.com; Tue, 11 May 2010 11:19:44 PDT Received: from EMBX02-HQ.jnpr.net ([fe80::18fe:d666:b43e:f97e]) by P-EMHUB01-HQ.jnpr.net ([fe80::fc92:eb1:759:2c72%11]) with mapi; Tue, 11 May 2010 11:18:00 -0700 From: Nitin Bahadur <nitinb@juniper.net> To: 'Loa Andersson' <loa@pi.nu>, "mpls-tp@ietf.org" <mpls-tp@ietf.org>, CCAMP WG <ccamp@ietf.org>, "pwe3@ietf.org" <pwe3@ietf.org>, "mpls@ietf.org" <mpls@ietf.org>, MPLS-TP ad hoc team <ahmpls-tp@lists.itu.int> Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 11:17:58 -0700 Thread-Topic: [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document Thread-Index: AcrxD5j3x+LDvg1EQWGguUKfJ1VawwAJqv+A Message-ID: <05542EC42316164383B5180707A489EE1D595BB564@EMBX02-HQ.jnpr.net> References: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 18:23:28 -0000 Support. Thanks Nitin =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org=20 > [mailto:mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Loa Andersson > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:41 AM > To: mpls-tp@ietf.org; CCAMP WG; pwe3@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org;=20 > MPLS-TP ad hoc team > Subject: [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv=20 > an mpls working group document >=20 > All, >=20 > this is start a two week poll on making >=20 > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt >=20 > an mpls working group document. >=20 > To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp=20 > mailing list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". >=20 > Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support or=20 > non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but with=20 > another subject. >=20 > The poll ends eob May 25th. >=20 > /Loa >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 >=20 > Loa Andersson email:=20 > loa.andersson@ericsson.com > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > +46 767 72 92=20 > 13 _______________________________________________ > mpls-tp mailing list > mpls-tp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-tp > = From jdrake@juniper.net Tue May 11 12:46:38 2010 Return-Path: <jdrake@juniper.net> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E25BE3A6A5A; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 19:46:39 -0000 Yes > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behal= f > Of Loa Andersson > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:41 AM > To: mpls-tp@ietf.org; CCAMP WG; pwe3@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org; MPLS-TP ad > hoc team > Subject: [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls > working group document >=20 > All, >=20 > this is start a two week poll on making >=20 > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt >=20 > an mpls working group document. >=20 > To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp > mailing list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". >=20 > Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support > or non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but > with another subject. >=20 > The poll ends eob May 25th. >=20 > /Loa >=20 >=20 > -- >=20 >=20 > Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > +46 767 72 92 13 > _______________________________________________ > mpls-tp mailing list > mpls-tp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-tp From loa@pi.nu Wed May 12 00:44:26 2010 Return-Path: <loa@pi.nu> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 300B23A692C; 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U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "mpls-tp@ietf.org" <mpls-tp@ietf.org>, mpls@ietf.org, CCAMP WG <ccamp@ietf.org>, pwe3@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [CCAMP] Fwd: New Liaison Statement, "LS174 - Draft revised Recommendation G.7712 for consent (ref # 032.01)" X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 07:44:26 -0000 All, we have received the liaison below from ITU-T SG15 requesting review of G.7712 prior to consent at the SG15 plenary meeting beginning of June. Please send comments to the mpls-tp mailing list before eob May 24. /Loa -------- Original Message -------- Subject: New Liaison Statement, "LS174 - Draft revised Recommendation G.7712 for consent (ref # 032.01)" Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 06:56:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Jones(ITU-T SG 15) <tsbsg15@itu.int> Reply-To: tsbsg15@itu.int To: swallow@cisco.com,loa@pi.nu CC: paf@cisco.com,stbryant@cisco.com,adrian.farrel@huawei.com,rcallon@juniper.net,mpls@ietf.org,yoichi.maeda@ntt-at.co.jp,steve.trowbridge@alcatel-lucent.com,tsbsg15@itu.int,greg.jones@itu.int,hiroshi.ota@itu.int,Kam.Lam@alcatel-lucent.com Title: LS174 - Draft revised Recommendation G.7712 for consent (ref # 032.01) Submission Date: 2010-05-11 URL of the IETF Web page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/liaison_detail.cgi?detail_id=896 Please reply by 2010-05-31 From: Greg Jones(ITU-T SG 15) <tsbsg15@itu.int> To: IETF MPLS WG(swallow@cisco.com,loa@pi.nu) Cc: paf@cisco.com stbryant@cisco.com adrian.farrel@huawei.com rcallon@juniper.net mpls@ietf.org yoichi.maeda@ntt-at.co.jp steve.trowbridge@alcatel-lucent.com Reponse Contact: tsbsg15@itu.int greg.jones@itu.int hiroshi.ota@itu.int Technical Contact: Kam.Lam@alcatel-lucent.com Purpose: For action Body: SG 15 plans to consent draft revised Recommendation G.7712 ��Architecture and specification of data communication network�� at the plenary meeting to be held in Geneva 31 May �V 11 June, 2010. While the scope of G.7712 covers the DCN architecture and specification for multiple transport technologies, this 2010 revision is only limited on revising the DCN architecture and specification for the MPLS-TP technology. Attached is a copy of G.7712 that will be presented at the meeting. We request that you review in particular the following MPLS-TP DCN related sections �{ 7.1.2.3 MPLS-TP Signalling Communication Network �{ 7.1.2.4 MPLS-TP Management Communication Network �{ 7.1.2.5 MPLS-TP SCC data-link layer termination function �{ 7.1.2.6 MPLS-TP MCC data-link layer termination function �{ 7.1.3.2 ��Network layer PDU into MPLS-TP SCC data-link frame�� encapsulation function �{ 7.1.3.2 ��Network layer PDU into MPLS-TP MCC data-link frame�� encapsulation function Please note that this draft revised Recommendation will not be proposed for consent unless all of the IETF drafts that have been normatively referenced (section 2 of G.7712) have completed the IETF and ITU-T review process and are approved. Attachment(s): G.7712 for consent Attachment(s): LS174 - Draft revised Recommendation G.7712 for consent (ref # 032.01) - pdf body (https://datatracker.ietf.org/documents/LIAISON/file1026.pdf) LS174 - Draft revised Recommendation G.7712 for consent (ref # 032.01) - pdf attach (https://datatracker.ietf.org/documents/LIAISON/file1027.pdf) From Attila.Takacs@ericsson.com Wed May 12 03:49:03 2010 Return-Path: <Attila.Takacs@ericsson.com> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E74173A6832; Wed, 12 May 2010 03:49:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PZUYby2FkPGu; Wed, 12 May 2010 03:49:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw9.se.ericsson.net (mailgw9.se.ericsson.net [193.180.251.57]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 814473A6A53; Wed, 12 May 2010 03:49:02 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb39-b7c85ae000005565-13-4bea8792d53f Received: from esessmw0197.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw9.se.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 05.FD.21861.2978AEB4; Wed, 12 May 2010 12:48:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ESESSCMS0355.eemea.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.110]) by esessmw0197.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.115.87]) with mapi; Wed, 12 May 2010 12:48:50 +0200 From: Attila Takacs <Attila.Takacs@ericsson.com> To: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>, "mpls-tp@ietf.org" <mpls-tp@ietf.org>, CCAMP WG <ccamp@ietf.org>, "pwe3@ietf.org" <pwe3@ietf.org>, "mpls@ietf.org" <mpls@ietf.org>, MPLS-TP ad hoc team <ahmpls-tp@lists.itu.int> Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 12:48:48 +0200 Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document Thread-Index: AcrxD5+e572yr2jNTaeYPD/ZFGHjjwAsQLQQ Message-ID: <79F41BA1E9BF3C489375521EF8DDE23C12DEDC3EB5@ESESSCMS0355.eemea.ericsson.se> References: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: Re: [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 10:49:04 -0000 Support. Attila=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org]=20 > On Behalf Of Loa Andersson > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 3:41 PM > To: mpls-tp@ietf.org; CCAMP WG; pwe3@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org;=20 > MPLS-TP ad hoc team > Subject: [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv=20 > an mpls working group document >=20 > All, >=20 > this is start a two week poll on making >=20 > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt >=20 > an mpls working group document. >=20 > To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp=20 > mailing list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". >=20 > Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support or=20 > non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but with=20 > another subject. >=20 > The poll ends eob May 25th. >=20 > /Loa >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 >=20 > Loa Andersson email:=20 > loa.andersson@ericsson.com > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > +46 767 72 92=20 > 13 _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > = From wwwrun@rfc-editor.org Wed May 12 08:33:05 2010 Return-Path: <wwwrun@rfc-editor.org> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 100423A6BB3 for <ccamp@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 12 May 2010 08:33:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.828 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.828 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.828, BAYES_50=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ceo243ThJp7h for <ccamp@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 12 May 2010 08:33:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [IPv6:2001:1890:1112:1::2f]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5152E3A6BB6 for <ccamp@ietf.org>; Wed, 12 May 2010 08:20:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 94261E0672; Wed, 12 May 2010 08:20:23 -0700 (PDT) To: eric_mannie@hotmail.com, stbryant@cisco.com, adrian.farrel@huawei.com, lberger@labn.net, dbrungard@att.com From: RFC Errata System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org> Message-Id: <20100512152023.94261E0672@rfc-editor.org> Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 08:20:23 -0700 (PDT) Cc: nmalykh@protocols.ru, ccamp@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [CCAMP] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC3945 (2252) X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 15:33:05 -0000 The following errata report has been submitted for RFC3945, "Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Architecture". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3945&eid=2252 -------------------------------------- Type: Editorial Reported by: Nikolai Malykh <nmalykh@protocols.ru> Section: 11.2 Original Text ------------- One can classify LSPs into one of a small set of service levels. Among other things, these service levels define the reliability characteristics of the LSP. The service level associated with a given LSP is mapped to one or more P&R schemes during LSP establishment. An advantage that mapping is that an LSP may use different P&E schemes in different segments of a network (e.g., some links may be span protected, whilst other segments of the LSP may utilize ring protection). These details are likely to be service provider specific. Corrected Text -------------- One can classify LSPs into one of a small set of service levels. Among other things, these service levels define the reliability characteristics of the LSP. The service level associated with a given LSP is mapped to one or more P&R schemes during LSP establishment. An advantage that mapping is that an LSP may use different P&R schemes in different segments of a network (e.g., some links may be span protected, whilst other segments of the LSP may utilize ring protection). These details are likely to be service provider specific. Notes ----- Mistype error Instructions: ------------- This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. -------------------------------------- RFC3945 (draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-architecture-07) -------------------------------------- Title : Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Architecture Publication Date : October 2004 Author(s) : E. Mannie, Ed. Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Common Control and Measurement Plane Area : Routing Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From venkatflex@gmail.com Thu May 13 02:54:01 2010 Return-Path: <venkatflex@gmail.com> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C595F3A6AD5; Thu, 13 May 2010 02:54:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.297 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.297 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.558, BAYES_20=-0.74, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OHLS3jbnptxL; Thu, 13 May 2010 02:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-px0-f172.google.com (mail-px0-f172.google.com [209.85.212.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6333A69DC; Thu, 13 May 2010 02:53:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pxi19 with SMTP id 19so678665pxi.31 for <multiple recipients>; Thu, 13 May 2010 02:53:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MUVpX6z+nn0BIvd9L5N/S84PNzTJz6EPmzr3ThgDMzg=; b=Ky9Maf6U/tAHNh+8xx+Fci2Ro6y12sljKbIyLrQbsBjb/wahjIHScPaJyOfqVgjusD DaBoAerhSdM4by1JdgNNF7a4pn7SULUZ9HQRiUmtQ1ZvRNSYa+sBHIr+6iOEOWCxSQsv B1Cp5t1988brB90dcbwd5m7AE3DU2/cD75vdQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=m81Z1ztDU+FnxkDBScg0shFg0dX7Gcp6Js/nD5tGAMjMCcu4q9SSE0R4vHO5dmW3rk VZ1gfxilhn1ffwYEAceKhT6dK9DMf3wIZcdGn20IGEZzpahG4d+JmlvvnYoczV4RR/WE z99YkXoO8OhFe4VuYKsbJpj9OISI4BfQk+drQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.27.8 with SMTP id e8mr6071622wfj.332.1273744420467; Thu, 13 May 2010 02:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.53.16 with HTTP; Thu, 13 May 2010 02:53:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <q2k715756491005061108r650202bfm6c36bc6d31a4b7cb@mail.gmail.com> References: <79F41BA1E9BF3C489375521EF8DDE23C12B1B1A5BB@ESESSCMS0355.eemea.ericsson.se> <C7EE0C65.241B2%swallow@cisco.com> <q2k715756491005061108r650202bfm6c36bc6d31a4b7cb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 15:23:40 +0530 Message-ID: <AANLkTilcwCLHfACPgbu-9JgaUY_VaxCkgN1cysGVQCg2@mail.gmail.com> From: venkatesan mahalingam <venkatflex@gmail.com> To: George Swallow <swallow@cisco.com>, Attila Takacs <Attila.Takacs@ericsson.com>, Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>, "mpls@ietf.org" <mpls@ietf.org>, "mpls-tp@ietf.org" <mpls-tp@ietf.org>, "pwe3@ietf.org" <pwe3@ietf.org>, "ccamp@ietf.org" <ccamp@ietf.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e0aef5b775db048676bb1b Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [mpls] [mpls-tp] mpls wg last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-identifiers-01 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 09:54:01 -0000 --001636e0aef5b775db048676bb1b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, >> Is it there to support associated unidirectional Tunnels/LSPs? If so it should >> be called out in the text. >That was not my original intent, but you are quite correct that this would >be very useful. Particularly if the associated tunnels pass through a share >mid-point somewhere along the path. VM: Can you please explain the original intention with an example? Thanks, Venkat. On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:38 PM, venkatesan mahalingam <venkatflex@gmail.com > wrote: > Hi George, > > >> Is it there to support associated unidirectional Tunnels/LSPs? If so it > should > >> be called out in the text. > > >That was not my original intent, but you are quite correct that this would > >be very useful. Particularly if the associated tunnels pass through a > share > >mid-point somewhere along the path. > VM: Can you please explain the original intention with an example? > > > >> -In Section 5.3 Mapping to GMPLS signaling does not use the > Dst-Tunnel_Num. So > >> this means that we may have two different tunnels identified with > >> Src-Node_ID::Src-Tunnel_Num:: > Dst-Node_ID::Dst-Tunnel_Num. Is this intentional, > >> e.g., the associated unidirectional case? > > >For the associated unidirectional, this works perfectly. For > bidirectional, > >I was thinking of two options. > > >1) Strict binding - both ends are configure with the full identifier > and > >will only accept the connection if everything matches. > > >2) Dynamic binding - Source signals with just its Tunnel_Num. RESV > message > >would carry back the destination's tunnel_num. Note that both ends need > >both pieces for some of the OAM to work. > VM: Do we need extensions in the RSVP-TE signaling to carry back the > destination's tunnel_num in the RESV message? > > Thanks, > Venkatesan Mahalingam > > > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:15 PM, George Swallow <swallow@cisco.com>wrote: > >> >> >> >> On 4/2/10 2:53 AM, "Attila Takacs" <Attila.Takacs@ericsson.com> wrote: >> >> > Hi Matthew and George, >> > >> > Please find some comments/questions below. >> > >> > -In Section 5.1 you have: >> > >> > Src-Node_ID::Src-Tunnel_Num::Dst-Node_ID::Dst-Tunnel_Num >> > >> > What is the reason of having a Dst-Tunnel_Num besides the >> Src-Tunnel_Num? >> >> Existing implementations of RSVP-TE have used the tunnel space as global >> to >> the node. It is difficult if not impossible to coordinate such spaces >> between nodes. In RSVP-TE the coordination does not matter, since the >> tail >> end of the tunnel doesn't have a real interface - it only receives and >> usually with a PHP of the tunnel label, so the packets only belong to the >> physical interface. >> >> In a bidirectional world, separate tunnel spaces at the two ends becomes >> useful. >> >> If this independence is not need is some environments then one can >> configure >> just one value and use it in both fields. >> >> > Is it there to support associated unidirectional Tunnels/LSPs? If so it >> should >> > be called out in the text. >> >> That was not my original intent, but you are quite correct that this would >> be very useful. Particularly if the associated tunnels pass through a >> share >> mid-point somewhere along the path. >> >> > Same applies to the globally unique case. >> >> Of course. >> >> > -In Section 5.2 you simply append one LSP_Num to the above. This is a >> bit >> > confusing to me, if there are Src/Dst Tunnel_Nums then two LSP_Nums >> would be >> > needed too, wouldn't it? >> >> Once, you have independent tunnel-ids, coordination of the LSP numbers >> becomes easy. It also could be used to allow the two ends to readily >> identify which is working and which is protection. >> >> > -In Section 5.3 Mapping to GMPLS signaling does not use the >> Dst-Tunnel_Num. So >> > this means that we may have two different tunnels identified with >> > Src-Node_ID::Src-Tunnel_Num::Dst-Node_ID::Dst-Tunnel_Num. Is this >> intentional, >> > e.g., the associated unidirectional case? >> >> For the associated unidirectional, this works perfectly. For >> bidirectional, >> I was thinking of two options. >> >> 1) Strict binding - both ends are configure with the full identifier >> and >> will only accept the connection if everything matches. >> >> 2) Dynamic binding - Source signals with just its Tunnel_Num. RESV >> message >> would carry back the destination's tunnel_num. Note that both ends need >> both pieces for some of the OAM to work. >> >> > This should be clarified. >> >> I'll see what I can do. But this is not supposed to the MPLS-TP signaling >> draft. >> >> > Hmm, maybe the Dst-Tunnel_Num should be omitted altogether. >> >> I'm planning to keep it. >> >> > -Section 7 has a note saying to be aligned with the OAM fwk, is this >> still to >> > be done? >> >> Yes. That draft is also being updated. We appear to be converging. >> >> > -In section 7.1.2.1 there is a discussion on Tunnel MEG IDs. >> > How would Tunnel and LSP MEGs be used? What OAM would run at the Tunnel >> level >> > and not at the LSP level? >> > >> > Do we need Tunnel MEG_IDs as defined in 7.1.2.1? >> >> I had been told early on that MEGs were needed for tunnels. Now getting >> comments that they are not (same comment is in the ITU liaison). So I >> planning to remove it, unless I hear other opinions. >> >> > -Section 7.1.2.2, the Dst-Tunnel_Num question applies here too. >> >> See above. >> >> > -Section 8 talks about open issues? When will these be addressed? >> >> Before it is re-issued. Goal is end of next week. >> >> ...George >> >> > Thanks, >> > Attila >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On >> >> Behalf Of Loa Andersson >> >> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 12:33 AM >> >> To: mpls@ietf.org; mpls-tp@ietf.org; pwe3@ietf.org; ccamp@ietf.org >> >> Subject: [mpls] mpls wg last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-identifiers-01 >> >> >> >> All, >> >> >> >> this is to start an MPLS working group last call on >> >> draft-ietf-mpls-tp-identifiers-01 >> >> >> >> There is a discussion on the OAM model for MS-PWs where we >> >> haven't been able to come to conclusion. Once we reach >> >> agreement the document will be updated. Comments in this area >> >> are welcome during the working group last call. >> >> >> >> >> >> Please send your comments to the mpls-tp@ietf.org mailing list. >> >> >> >> The working group last ends eob April 2nd. >> >> >> >> /Loa >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Loa Andersson >> >> >> >> Sr Strategy and Standards Manager >> >> Ericsson /// >> >> phone: +46 10 717 52 13 >> >> +46 767 72 92 13 >> >> >> >> email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com >> >> loa@pi.nu >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> mpls mailing list >> >> mpls@ietf.org >> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > mpls-tp mailing list >> > mpls-tp@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-tp >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mpls mailing list >> mpls@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls >> > > > > -- > Best Regards, > Venkatesan Mahalingam. > -- Best Regards, Venkatesan Mahalingam. --001636e0aef5b775db048676bb1b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div>Hi,</div> <div>>> Is it there to support associated unidirectional Tunnels/LSPs= ? If so it should<br>>> be called out in the text.<br><br>>That wa= s not my original intent, but you are quite correct that this would<br> >be very useful. =A0Particularly if the associated tunnels pass through = a share<br>>mid-point somewhere along the path.<br>VM: Can you please ex= plain the original intention with an example? </div> <div>=A0</div> <div>Thanks,</div> <div>Venkat.<br></div> <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:38 PM, venkatesan maha= lingam <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:venkatflex@gmail.com">venkat= flex@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0= px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Hi George,=20 <div class=3D"im"><br>>> Is it there to support associated unidirecti= onal Tunnels/LSPs? If so it should<br>>> be called out in the text.<b= r><br>>That was not my original intent, but you are quite correct that t= his would<br> >be very useful. =A0Particularly if the associated tunnels pass through = a share<br>>mid-point somewhere along the path.<br></div>VM: Can you ple= ase explain the original intention with an example? <br> <div class=3D"im"><br><br>>> -In Section 5.3 Mapping to GMPLS signali= ng does not use the Dst-Tunnel_Num. So<br>>> this means that we may h= ave two different tunnels identified with<br>>> Src-Node_ID::Src-Tunn= el_Num::=20 <div>Dst-Node_ID::Dst-Tunnel_Num. Is this intentional,<br>>> e.g., th= e associated unidirectional case?<br><br></div>>For the associated unidi= rectional, this works perfectly. =A0For bidirectional,<br>>I was thinkin= g of two options.<br> <br>>1) =A0Strict binding =A0- =A0both ends are configure with the full = identifier and<br>>will only accept the connection if everything matches= .<br><br>>2) =A0Dynamic binding - Source signals with just its Tunnel_Nu= m. =A0RESV message<br> >would carry back the destination's tunnel_num. =A0Note that both en= ds need<br>>both pieces for some of the OAM to work.<br></div>VM: Do we = need extensions in the RSVP-TE signaling to carry back the destination'= s tunnel_num in the RESV message?<br> <br>Thanks,<br>Venkatesan Mahalingam=20 <div> <div></div> <div class=3D"h5"><br><br> <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:15 PM, George Swallow= <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:swallow@cisco.com" target=3D"_blan= k">swallow@cisco.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0= pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid"> <div><br><br><br>On 4/2/10 2:53 AM, "Attila Takacs" <<a href= =3D"mailto:Attila.Takacs@ericsson.com" target=3D"_blank">Attila.Takacs@eric= sson.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> Hi Matthew and George,<br>><br>> = Please find some comments/questions below.<br> ><br>> -In Section 5.1 you have:<br>><br>> Src-Node_ID::Src-Tun= nel_Num::Dst-Node_ID::Dst-Tunnel_Num<br>><br>> What is the reason of = having a Dst-Tunnel_Num besides the Src-Tunnel_Num?<br><br></div>Existing i= mplementations of RSVP-TE have used the tunnel space as global to<br> the node. =A0It is difficult if not impossible to coordinate such spaces<br= >between nodes. =A0In RSVP-TE the coordination does not matter, since the t= ail<br>end of the tunnel doesn't have a real interface - it only receiv= es and<br> usually with a PHP of the tunnel label, so the packets only belong to the<b= r>physical interface.<br><br>In a bidirectional world, separate tunnel spac= es at the two ends becomes<br>useful.<br><br>If this independence is not ne= ed is some environments then one can configure<br> just one value and use it in both fields.<br> <div><br>> Is it there to support associated unidirectional Tunnels/LSPs= ? If so it should<br>> be called out in the text.<br><br></div>That was = not my original intent, but you are quite correct that this would<br>be ver= y useful. =A0Particularly if the associated tunnels pass through a share<br= > mid-point somewhere along the path.<br> <div><br>> Same applies to the globally unique case.<br><br></div>Of cou= rse.<br> <div><br>> -In Section 5.2 you simply append one LSP_Num to the above. T= his is a bit<br>> confusing to me, if there are Src/Dst Tunnel_Nums then= two LSP_Nums would be<br>> needed too, wouldn't it?<br><br></div> Once, you have independent tunnel-ids, coordination of the LSP numbers<br>b= ecomes easy. =A0It also could be used to allow the two ends to readily<br>i= dentify which is working and which is protection.<br> <div><br>> -In Section 5.3 Mapping to GMPLS signaling does not use the D= st-Tunnel_Num. So<br>> this means that we may have two different tunnels= identified with<br>> Src-Node_ID::Src-Tunnel_Num::Dst-Node_ID::Dst-Tunn= el_Num. Is this intentional,<br> > e.g., the associated unidirectional case?<br><br></div>For the associa= ted unidirectional, this works perfectly. =A0For bidirectional,<br>I was th= inking of two options.<br><br>1) =A0Strict binding =A0- =A0both ends are co= nfigure with the full identifier and<br> will only accept the connection if everything matches.<br><br>2) =A0Dynamic= binding - Source signals with just its Tunnel_Num. =A0RESV message<br>woul= d carry back the destination's tunnel_num. =A0Note that both ends need<= br> both pieces for some of the OAM to work.<br><br>> This should be clarifi= ed.<br><br>I'll see what I can do. =A0But this is not supposed to the M= PLS-TP signaling<br>draft.<br> <div><br>> Hmm, maybe the Dst-Tunnel_Num should be omitted altogether.<b= r><br></div>I'm planning to keep it.<br> <div><br>> -Section 7 has a note saying to be aligned with the OAM fwk, = is this still to<br>> be done?<br><br></div>Yes. =A0That draft is also b= eing updated. =A0We appear to be converging.<br> <div><br>> -In section 7.1.2.1 there is a discussion on Tunnel MEG IDs.<= br>> How would Tunnel and LSP MEGs be used? What OAM would run at the Tu= nnel level<br>> and not at the LSP level?<br>><br>> Do we need Tun= nel MEG_IDs as defined in 7.1.2.1?<br> <br></div>I had been told early on that MEGs were needed for tunnels. =A0No= w getting<br>comments that they are not (same comment is in the ITU liaison= ). =A0So I<br>planning to remove it, unless I hear other opinions.<br> <div><br>> -Section 7.1.2.2, the Dst-Tunnel_Num question applies here to= o.<br><br></div>See above.<br> <div><br>> -Section 8 talks about open issues? When will these be addres= sed?<br><br></div>Before it is re-issued. =A0Goal is end of next week.<br><= br>...George<br> <div> <div></div> <div><br>> Thanks,<br>> Attila<br>><br>>> -----Original Mess= age-----<br>>> From: <a href=3D"mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org" target= =3D"_blank">mpls-bounces@ietf.org</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:mpls-bounce= s@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">mpls-bounces@ietf.org</a>] On<br> >> Behalf Of Loa Andersson<br>>> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 1= 2:33 AM<br>>> To: <a href=3D"mailto:mpls@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">= mpls@ietf.org</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:mpls-tp@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">mp= ls-tp@ietf.org</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:pwe3@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">pwe3= @ietf.org</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">ccamp@ie= tf.org</a><br> >> Subject: [mpls] mpls wg last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-identifier= s-01<br>>><br>>> All,<br>>><br>>> this is to start = an MPLS working group last call on<br>>> draft-ietf-mpls-tp-identifie= rs-01<br> >><br>>> There is a discussion on the OAM model for MS-PWs wher= e we<br>>> haven't been able to come to conclusion. Once we reach= <br>>> agreement the document will be updated. Comments in this area<= br> >> are welcome during the working group last call.<br>>><br>>= ;><br>>> Please send your comments to the <a href=3D"mailto:mpls-t= p@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">mpls-tp@ietf.org</a> mailing list.<br>>>= ;<br> >> The working group last ends eob April 2nd.<br>>><br>>>= /Loa<br>>><br>>> --<br>>><br>>> Loa Andersson<br>&= gt;><br>>> Sr Strategy and Standards Manager<br>>> Ericsson = ///<br> >> =A0 =A0phone: =A0+46 10 717 52 13<br>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0+46 767 72 92 13<br>>><br>>> =A0 =A0email: =A0<a href=3D"mai= lto:loa.andersson@ericsson.com" target=3D"_blank">loa.andersson@ericsson.co= m</a><br>>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<a href=3D"mailto:loa@pi.nu" targe= t=3D"_blank">loa@pi.nu</a><br> >><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> __________________= _____________________________<br>>> mpls mailing list<br>>> <a = href=3D"mailto:mpls@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">mpls@ietf.org</a><br>>&g= t; <a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls" target=3D"_blank"= >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls</a><br> >><br>> _______________________________________________<br></div><= /div>> mpls-tp mailing list<br>> <a href=3D"mailto:mpls-tp@ietf.org" = target=3D"_blank">mpls-tp@ietf.org</a><br>> <a href=3D"https://www.ietf.= org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-tp" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.org/mailma= n/listinfo/mpls-tp</a><br> <div> <div></div> <div><br>_______________________________________________<br>mpls mailing li= st<br><a href=3D"mailto:mpls@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">mpls@ietf.org</a><= br><a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls" target=3D"_blank"= >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls</a><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br></div></div>-- <br= >Best Regards,<br><font color=3D"#888888">Venkatesan Mahalingam.<br></font>= </blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Best Regards,<br>Venkat= esan Mahalingam.<br> --001636e0aef5b775db048676bb1b-- From zali@cisco.com Thu May 13 11:55:01 2010 Return-Path: <zali@cisco.com> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D703A6CE2; 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May 2010 21:40:55.0567 (UTC) FILETIME=[F7B351F0:01CAF2E4] Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 21:41:07 -0000 I also do not support this draft. regards, neil=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org=20 > [mailto:mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Rui Costa > Sent: 13 May 2010 19:11 > To: Loa Andersson; mpls-tp@ietf.org; CCAMP WG; pwe3@ietf.org;=20 > mpls@ietf.org; MPLS-TP ad hoc team > Subject: Re: [mpls-tp] poll on making=20 > draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document >=20 > no/do not support=09 >=20 > Kind Regards,=09 > Rui >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org=20 > [mailto:mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Loa Andersson > Sent: ter=E7a-feira, 11 de Maio de 2010 14:41 > To: mpls-tp@ietf.org; CCAMP WG; pwe3@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org;=20 > MPLS-TP ad hoc team > Subject: [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv=20 > an mpls working group document >=20 > All, >=20 > this is start a two week poll on making >=20 > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt >=20 > an mpls working group document. >=20 > To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp=20 > mailing list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". >=20 > Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support or=20 > non-support should be sent to the 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+0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.24.0.100205 Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 08:01:12 -0400 From: "Thomas D. Nadeau" <tom.nadeau@bt.com> To: Nitin Bahadur <nitinb@juniper.net>, 'Loa Andersson' <loa@pi.nu>, "mpls-tp@ietf.org" <mpls-tp@ietf.org>, CCAMP WG <ccamp@ietf.org>, "pwe3@ietf.org" <pwe3@ietf.org>, "mpls@ietf.org" <mpls@ietf.org>, MPLS-TP ad hoc team <ahmpls-tp@lists.itu.int> Message-ID: <C812B3C8.1CA15%tom.nadeau@bt.com> Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document Thread-Index: AcrxD5j3x+LDvg1EQWGguUKfJ1VawwAJqv+AAIm4IgE= In-Reply-To: <05542EC42316164383B5180707A489EE1D595BB564@EMBX02-HQ.jnpr.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 May 2010 12:02:11.0005 (UTC) FILETIME=[48A966D0:01CAF35D] Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 12:02:30 -0000 +1 On 5/11/10 2:17 PM, "Nitin Bahadur" <nitinb@juniper.net> wrote: > > Support. > > Thanks > Nitin > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org >> [mailto:mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Loa Andersson >> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:41 AM >> To: mpls-tp@ietf.org; CCAMP WG; pwe3@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org; >> MPLS-TP ad hoc team >> Subject: [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv >> an mpls working group document >> >> All, >> >> this is start a two week poll on making >> >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt >> >> an mpls working group document. >> >> To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp >> mailing list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". >> >> Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support or >> non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but with >> another subject. >> >> The poll ends eob May 25th. >> >> /Loa >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Loa Andersson email: >> loa.andersson@ericsson.com >> Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu >> Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 >> +46 767 72 92 >> 13 _______________________________________________ >> mpls-tp mailing list >> mpls-tp@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-tp >> > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From david.sinicrope@ericsson.com Fri May 14 07:59:07 2010 Return-Path: <david.sinicrope@ericsson.com> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6F73A6B18; Fri, 14 May 2010 07:59:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VSuGiNT6LrEo; Fri, 14 May 2010 07:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr1.ericy.com (imr1.ericy.com [198.24.6.9]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A11D3A6B1A; Fri, 14 May 2010 07:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eusaamw0712.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.181]) by imr1.ericy.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o4EF4XH9029778; Fri, 14 May 2010 10:04:34 -0500 Received: from EUSAACMS0703.eamcs.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.224]) by eusaamw0712.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.181]) with mapi; Fri, 14 May 2010 10:58:52 -0400 From: David Sinicrope <david.sinicrope@ericsson.com> To: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>, "mpls-tp@ietf.org" <mpls-tp@ietf.org>, CCAMP WG <ccamp@ietf.org>, "IETF.PWE3" <pwe3@ietf.org>, "mpls@ietf.org" <mpls@ietf.org>, MPLS-TP ad hoc team <ahmpls-tp@lists.itu.int> Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 10:58:44 -0400 Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document Thread-Index: AcrxD6s5YTyPoivLTNudNxH9euGXyQCZkdb+ Message-ID: <C812DD68.5D1BF%david.sinicrope@ericsson.com> In-Reply-To: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 14:59:08 -0000 yes/support On 5/11/10 9:41 AM, "Loa Andersson" <loa@pi.nu> wrote: All, this is start a two week poll on making http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt an mpls working group document. To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp mailing list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support or non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but with another subject. The poll ends eob May 25th. /Loa -- Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From RCosta@ptinovacao.pt Thu May 13 11:14:09 2010 Return-Path: <RCosta@ptinovacao.pt> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 114E73A6C7D; Thu, 13 May 2010 11:14:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.882 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.882 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.717, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V86OJ7znV2DL; Thu, 13 May 2010 11:14:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from owa.ptinovacao.pt (webmail.ptinovacao.pt [194.65.138.99]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AFE43A6BBF; Thu, 13 May 2010 11:13:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from INOAVREX11.ptin.corpPT.com ([10.112.15.121]) by inoavrcas01.ptin.corpPT.com ([10.112.15.99]) with mapi; Thu, 13 May 2010 19:13:25 +0100 From: Rui Costa <RCosta@ptinovacao.pt> To: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>, "mpls-tp@ietf.org" <mpls-tp@ietf.org>, CCAMP WG <ccamp@ietf.org>, "pwe3@ietf.org" <pwe3@ietf.org>, "mpls@ietf.org" <mpls@ietf.org>, MPLS-TP ad hoc team <ahmpls-tp@lists.itu.int> Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 19:10:45 +0100 Thread-Topic: [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document Thread-Index: AcrxD647ZiDwyep4SyShPF8Y3MSw9QBnP5FA Message-ID: <52981DB05D3C5247A12D0AEE309F3CC201017FCCD70F@INOAVREX11.ptin.corpPT.com> References: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> Accept-Language: pt-PT Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: pt-PT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 14 May 2010 10:25:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 18:14:09 -0000 no/do not support=09 Kind Regards,=09 Rui -----Original Message----- From: mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf = Of Loa Andersson Sent: ter=E7a-feira, 11 de Maio de 2010 14:41 To: mpls-tp@ietf.org; CCAMP WG; pwe3@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org; MPLS-TP ad ho= c team Subject: [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls worki= ng group document All, this is start a two week poll on making http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt an mpls working group document. To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp mailing list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support or non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but with another subject. The poll ends eob May 25th. /Loa --=20 Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 _______________________________________________ mpls-tp mailing list mpls-tp@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-tp From tapsingh@cisco.com Thu May 13 11:36:43 2010 Return-Path: <tapsingh@cisco.com> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F403A6C93; Thu, 13 May 2010 11:36:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UEuM22bheY0h; Thu, 13 May 2010 11:36:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17EAB3A6CA4; Thu, 13 May 2010 11:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-6.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAH/j60urRN+K/2dsb2JhbACeIHGkIJk5AoUQBINA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,224,1272844800"; d="scan'208";a="529330883" Received: from sj-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.223.138]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 13 May 2010 18:36:21 +0000 Received: from xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-221.cisco.com [128.107.191.63]) by sj-core-4.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o4DIaLDN003929; Thu, 13 May 2010 18:36:21 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-23b.amer.cisco.com ([128.107.191.31]) by xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 13 May 2010 11:36:21 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 11:36:19 -0700 Message-ID: <07CAFD2F0BDB6F44AD32F86AB4D4A8E706A0A7AC@xmb-sjc-23b.amer.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <52981DB05D3C5247A12D0AEE309F3CC201017FCCD70F@INOAVREX11.ptin.corpPT.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [mpls] [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document Thread-Index: AcrxD647ZiDwyep4SyShPF8Y3MSw9QBnP5FAAAeVPxA= References: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> <52981DB05D3C5247A12D0AEE309F3CC201017FCCD70F@INOAVREX11.ptin.corpPT.com> From: "Tapraj Singh (tapsingh)" <tapsingh@cisco.com> To: "Rui Costa" <RCosta@ptinovacao.pt>, "Loa Andersson" <loa@pi.nu>, <mpls-tp@ietf.org>, "CCAMP WG" <ccamp@ietf.org>, <pwe3@ietf.org>, <mpls@ietf.org>, "MPLS-TP ad hoc team" <ahmpls-tp@lists.itu.int> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 May 2010 18:36:21.0674 (UTC) FILETIME=[2F2558A0:01CAF2CB] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 14 May 2010 10:25:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [mpls] [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 18:36:43 -0000 Hi All, Support. Thanks Tapraj -----Original Message----- From: mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org] On = Behalf Of Loa Andersson Sent: ter=E7a-feira, 11 de Maio de 2010 14:41 To: mpls-tp@ietf.org; CCAMP WG; pwe3@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org; MPLS-TP ad = hoc team Subject: [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls = working group document All, this is start a two week poll on making http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt an mpls working group document. To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp mailing list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support or non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but with another subject. The poll ends eob May 25th. /Loa --=20 Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 _______________________________________________ mpls-tp mailing list mpls-tp@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-tp _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From lberger@labn.net Fri May 14 10:35:50 2010 Return-Path: <lberger@labn.net> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FDBD3A68C3 for <ccamp@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 14 May 2010 10:35:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.387 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.387 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.722, BAYES_50=0.001, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tRUEgQMArSrN for <ccamp@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 14 May 2010 10:35:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D5AF33A6A70 for <ccamp@ietf.org>; Fri, 14 May 2010 10:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 22877 invoked by uid 0); 14 May 2010 17:35:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 14 May 2010 17:35:36 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=labn.net; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Identified-User; b=rVRbIZJplbo5pILQTobIF6aNRmel0fRkDr3N4FJAQSKNjarKV7zWzYEE3gn0r8euVSRtYaOYDlAuf3GdZD0+jMXGYE8cmUk8caaVTorZtO/gHXVCXy4LQ5B1c3Xd+xq8; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <lberger@labn.net>) id 1OCynQ-0002EU-Ah; Fri, 14 May 2010 11:35:36 -0600 Message-ID: <4BED89F1.6080907@labn.net> Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 13:35:45 -0400 From: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100301 Eudora/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RFC Errata System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org> References: <20100512152023.94261E0672@rfc-editor.org> In-Reply-To: <20100512152023.94261E0672@rfc-editor.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Cc: ccamp@ietf.org, eric_mannie@hotmail.com, nmalykh@protocols.ru, adrian.farrel@huawei.com, dbrungard@att.com Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC3945 (2252) X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 17:35:50 -0000 I think it is fine to accept this typo correction. The errata should be included to state: OLD TEXT: different P&E schemes NEW TEXT: different P&R schemes Lou On 5/12/2010 11:20 AM, RFC Errata System wrote: > The following errata report has been submitted for RFC3945, > "Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Architecture". > > -------------------------------------- > You may review the report below and at: > http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3945&eid=2252 > > -------------------------------------- > Type: Editorial > Reported by: Nikolai Malykh<nmalykh@protocols.ru> > > Section: 11.2 > > Original Text > ------------- > One can classify LSPs into one of a small set of service levels. > > Among other things, these service levels define the reliability > > characteristics of the LSP. The service level associated with a > > given LSP is mapped to one or more P&R schemes during LSP > > establishment. An advantage that mapping is that an LSP may use > > different P&E schemes in different segments of a network (e.g., some > > links may be span protected, whilst other segments of the LSP may > > utilize ring protection). These details are likely to be service > > provider specific. > > > > Corrected Text > -------------- > One can classify LSPs into one of a small set of service levels. > > Among other things, these service levels define the reliability > > characteristics of the LSP. The service level associated with a > > given LSP is mapped to one or more P&R schemes during LSP > > establishment. An advantage that mapping is that an LSP may use > > different P&R schemes in different segments of a network (e.g., some > > links may be span protected, whilst other segments of the LSP may > > utilize ring protection). These details are likely to be service > > provider specific. > > > > Notes > ----- > Mistype error > > Instructions: > ------------- > This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please > use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or > rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) > can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. > > -------------------------------------- > RFC3945 (draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-architecture-07) > -------------------------------------- > Title : Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Architecture > Publication Date : October 2004 > Author(s) : E. Mannie, Ed. > Category : PROPOSED STANDARD > Source : Common Control and Measurement Plane > Area : Routing > Stream : IETF > Verifying Party : IESG > > > From Robert.Rennison@ecitele.com Fri May 14 12:00:54 2010 Return-Path: <Robert.Rennison@ecitele.com> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E3303A6C15; Fri, 14 May 2010 12:00:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5xvb5I+6S3qa; Fri, 14 May 2010 12:00:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uspitbmg01.ecitele.com (uspitbmg01-out.ecitele.com [63.94.127.136]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F25013A6C03; Fri, 14 May 2010 12:00:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DLP_bound_connection (uspitbmg01-out.ecitele.com [63.94.127.136]) by uspitbmg01.ecitele.com (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with SMTP id A9.61.13064.42C9DEB4; Fri, 14 May 2010 14:53:24 -0400 (EDT) X-AuditID: 3f5e7f87-b7c87ae000003308-41-4bed9c2399a3 Received: from uspitexch02.ecitele.com (Unknown_Domain [10.0.0.72]) by uspitbmg01.ecitele.com (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with SMTP id 39.61.13064.32C9DEB4; Fri, 14 May 2010 14:53:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from USPITMAIL01.ecitele.com ([10.0.0.81]) by uspitexch02.ecitele.com ([10.0.0.72]) with mapi; Fri, 14 May 2010 15:00:29 -0400 From: Robert Rennison <Robert.Rennison@ecitele.com> To: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>, "mpls-tp@ietf.org" <mpls-tp@ietf.org>, CCAMP WG <ccamp@ietf.org>, "pwe3@ietf.org" <pwe3@ietf.org>, "mpls@ietf.org" <mpls@ietf.org>, MPLS-TP ad hoc team <ahmpls-tp@lists.itu.int> Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 15:00:25 -0400 Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document Thread-Index: AcrxD647ZiDwyep4SyShPF8Y3MSw9QBnP5FAAAg4neAAMnyXUA== Message-ID: <786AD2EC3D80A1428B921CDC9BE9EE541DA182EC3B@USPITMAIL01.ecitele.com> References: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> <52981DB05D3C5247A12D0AEE309F3CC201017FCCD70F@INOAVREX11.ptin.corpPT.com> <7CC717E2F49DAA4A827DA3FEA237111B01911CB3@XMB-RCD-103.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <7CC717E2F49DAA4A827DA3FEA237111B01911CB3@XMB-RCD-103.cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 19:00:54 -0000 Yes, support Rob Rennison >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org > > [mailto:mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Loa Andersson > > Sent: ter=E7a-feira, 11 de Maio de 2010 14:41 > > To: mpls-tp@ietf.org; CCAMP WG; pwe3@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org; > > MPLS-TP ad hoc team > > Subject: [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv > > an mpls working group document > > > > All, > > > > this is start a two week poll on making > > > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv- > 04.txt > > > > an mpls working group document. > > > > To respond to the poll please send a 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working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 14:56:40 -0000 no/do not support Maarten ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loa Andersson" <loa@pi.nu> To: <mpls-tp@ietf.org>; "CCAMP WG" <ccamp@ietf.org>; <pwe3@ietf.org>; <mpls@ietf.org>; "MPLS-TP ad hoc team" <ahmpls-tp@lists.itu.int> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 9:41 PM Subject: [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document > All, > > this is start a two week poll on making > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt > > an mpls working group document. > > To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp > mailing list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". > > Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support > or non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but > with another subject. > > The poll ends eob May 25th. > > /Loa > > > -- > > > Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > +46 767 72 92 13 > _______________________________________________ > mpls-tp mailing list > mpls-tp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-tp _______________________________________________ mpls-tp mailing list mpls-tp@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-tp From msiva@cisco.com Mon May 17 09:53:23 2010 Return-Path: <msiva@cisco.com> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 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Thanks, Siva=20 -----Original Message----- From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf = Of Robert Rennison Sent: May 14, 2010 3:00 PM To: Loa Andersson; mpls-tp@ietf.org; CCAMP WG; pwe3@ietf.org; = mpls@ietf.org; MPLS-TP ad hoc team Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] poll on making = draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cvan mpls working group document Yes, support Rob Rennison >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org > > [mailto:mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Loa Andersson > > Sent: ter=E7a-feira, 11 de Maio de 2010 14:41 > > To: mpls-tp@ietf.org; CCAMP WG; pwe3@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org;=20 > > MPLS-TP ad hoc team > > Subject: [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an=20 > > mpls working group document > > > > All, > > > > this is start a two week poll on making > > > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv- > 04.txt > > > > an mpls working group document. > > > > To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp mailing=20 > > list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". > > > > Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support or=20 > > non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but with=20 > > another subject. > > > > The poll ends eob May 25th. > > > > /Loa > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Loa Andersson email: > > loa.andersson@ericsson.com > > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > > +46 767 72 92 > > 13 _______________________________________________ > > mpls-tp mailing list > > mpls-tp@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-tp > > _______________________________________________ > > mpls-tp mailing list > > mpls-tp@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-tp > > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From sboutros@cisco.com Mon May 17 10:27:59 2010 Return-Path: <sboutros@cisco.com> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AE2D3A6ABF; 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Mon, 17 May 2010 17:26:48 GMT Received: from xfe-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com ([171.70.151.174]) by xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 17 May 2010 10:26:48 -0700 Received: from sboutros-wxp02.ciswco.com ([10.21.116.121]) by xfe-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 17 May 2010 10:26:48 -0700 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 10:26:44 -0700 To: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>, "mpls-tp@ietf.org" <mpls-tp@ietf.org>, CCAMP WG <ccamp@ietf.org>, <pwe3@ietf.org>, <mpls@ietf.org>, MPLS-TP ad hoc team <ahmpls-tp@lists.itu.int> From: Sami Boutros <sboutros@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <C811C986.11029%rpapneja@isocore.com> References: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> <C811C986.11029%rpapneja@isocore.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-ID: <XFE-SJC-211R1JBjbUf00000f02@xfe-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 May 2010 17:26:48.0045 (UTC) FILETIME=[211F19D0:01CAF5E6] Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [mpls] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 17:27:59 -0000 Yes/support Sami > > From: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> > > Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 15:41:09 +0200 > > To: "mpls-tp@ietf.org" <mpls-tp@ietf.org>, CCAMP WG <ccamp@ietf.org>, > > <pwe3@ietf.org>, <mpls@ietf.org>, MPLS-TP ad hoc team > > <ahmpls-tp@lists.itu.int> > > Subject: [mpls] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working > > group document > > > > All, > > > > this is start a two week poll on making > > > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt > > > > an mpls working group document. > > > > To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp > > mailing list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". > > > > Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support > > or non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but > > with another subject. > > > > The poll ends eob May 25th. > > > > /Loa > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com > > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > > +46 767 72 92 13 > > _______________________________________________ > > mpls mailing list > > mpls@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > > >_______________________________________________ >mpls mailing list >mpls@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From sboutros@cisco.com Mon May 17 10:29:33 2010 Return-Path: <sboutros@cisco.com> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 017A83A69D8; 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Mon, 17 May 2010 17:28:28 GMT Received: from xfe-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com ([171.70.151.174]) by xbh-sjc-231.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 17 May 2010 10:28:28 -0700 Received: from sboutros-wxp02.ciswco.com ([10.21.116.121]) by xfe-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 17 May 2010 10:28:27 -0700 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 10:28:27 -0700 To: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>, "mpls-tp@ietf.org" <mpls-tp@ietf.org>, CCAMP WG <ccamp@ietf.org>, <pwe3@ietf.org>, <mpls@ietf.org> From: Sami Boutros <sboutros@cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-ID: <XFE-SJC-211iKBsuZ2K00000f03@xfe-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 May 2010 17:28:27.0890 (UTC) FILETIME=[5CA23D20:01CAF5E6] Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [mpls] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 17:29:33 -0000 Yes/support Sami > > From: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> > > Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 15:41:09 +0200 > > To: "mpls-tp@ietf.org" <mpls-tp@ietf.org>, CCAMP WG <ccamp@ietf.org>, > > <pwe3@ietf.org>, <mpls@ietf.org>, MPLS-TP ad hoc team > > <ahmpls-tp@lists.itu.int> > > Subject: [mpls] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working > > group document > > > > All, > > > > this is start a two week poll on making > > > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt > > > > an mpls working group document. > > > > To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp > > mailing list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". > > > > Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support > > or non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but > > with another subject. > > > > The poll ends eob May 25th. > > > > /Loa > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com > > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > > +46 767 72 92 13 > > _______________________________________________ > > mpls mailing list > > mpls@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > > >_______________________________________________ >mpls mailing list >mpls@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From healthinghearts@gmail.com Mon May 17 14:02:08 2010 Return-Path: <healthinghearts@gmail.com> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4353A680E; 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boundary=0016e6d2723827df330486d082bc Cc: mpls@ietf.org, CCAMP WG <ccamp@ietf.org>, MPLS-TP ad hoc team <ahmpls-tp@lists.itu.int>, pwe3@ietf.org, "mpls-tp@ietf.org" <mpls-tp@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 21:02:08 -0000 --0016e6d2723827df330486d082bc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 No / Do not Support. Yang On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote: > All, > > this is start a two week poll on making > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt > > an mpls working group document. > > To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp > mailing list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". > > Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support > or non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but > with another subject. > > The poll ends eob May 25th. > > /Loa > > > -- > > > Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > +46 767 72 92 13 > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > --0016e6d2723827df330486d082bc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div><br></div>No / Do not Support.<div><br></div><div>Yang<br><br><div><br= ><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Loa Anders= son <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:loa@pi.nu">loa@pi.nu</a>></s= pan> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">All,<br> <br> this is start a two week poll on making<br> <br> <a href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-= 04.txt" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpl= s-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt</a><br> <br> an mpls working group document.<br> <br> To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp<br> mailing list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support&= quot;.<br> <br> Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support<br> or non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but<br> with another subject.<br> <br> The poll ends eob May 25th.<br> <br> /Loa<br> <br> <br> -- <br><font color=3D"#888888"> <br> <br> Loa Andersson =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 email: <a hre= f=3D"mailto:loa.andersson@ericsson.com" target=3D"_blank">loa.andersson@eri= csson.com</a><br> Sr Strategy and Standards Manager =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<a href=3D"mailto:= loa@pi.nu" target=3D"_blank">loa@pi.nu</a><br> Ericsson Inc =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0phone: +46 = 10 717 52 13<br> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 +46 767 72 92 13<br> _______________________________________________<br> CCAMP mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:CCAMP@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">CCAMP@ietf.org</a><br> <a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp" target=3D"_blank">h= ttps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp</a><br> </font></blockquote></div><br></div></div> --0016e6d2723827df330486d082bc-- From jmh@joelhalpern.com Mon May 17 14:06:00 2010 Return-Path: <jmh@joelhalpern.com> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA3F3A6AA8; Mon, 17 May 2010 14:06:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.983 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.983 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.616, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id goSm2R3c1smd; Mon, 17 May 2010 14:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hgblob.mail.tigertech.net (hgblob.mail.tigertech.net [64.62.209.71]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FCB63A698F; Mon, 17 May 2010 14:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF7532362B3; Mon, 17 May 2010 14:05:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hgblob.tigertech.net Received: from [10.10.10.102] (pool-71-161-52-36.clppva.btas.verizon.net [71.161.52.36]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hgblob.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 266893228BF3; Mon, 17 May 2010 14:05:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4BF1AFAC.3010007@joelhalpern.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 17:05:48 -0400 From: "Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> References: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mpls@ietf.org, CCAMP WG <ccamp@ietf.org>, MPLS-TP ad hoc team <ahmpls-tp@lists.itu.int>, pwe3@ietf.org, "mpls-tp@ietf.org" <mpls-tp@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [mpls] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 21:06:00 -0000 Yes. This document seems a good basis for the WG work on this topic, and should be adopted. Yours, Joel Loa Andersson wrote: > All, > > this is start a two week poll on making > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt > > an mpls working group document. > > To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp > mailing list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". > > Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support > or non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but > with another subject. > > The poll ends eob May 25th. > > /Loa > > From tsaad@cisco.com Mon May 17 15:29:22 2010 Return-Path: <tsaad@cisco.com> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD4D3A6907; Mon, 17 May 2010 15:29:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.532 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.532 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JydK7+ipjNhZ; Mon, 17 May 2010 15:29:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-4.cisco.com (sj-iport-4.cisco.com [171.68.10.86]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 251753A68E9; Mon, 17 May 2010 15:29:22 -0700 (PDT) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-4.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgcFAJJf8UurR7H+/2dsb2JhbACddgJxo0OZcoUQBIxI X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,249,1272844800"; d="scan'208";a="130906362" Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by sj-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 17 May 2010 22:29:14 +0000 Received: from xbh-rcd-201.cisco.com (xbh-rcd-201.cisco.com [72.163.62.200]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o4HMTENU017589; Mon, 17 May 2010 22:29:14 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-111.cisco.com ([72.163.62.153]) by xbh-rcd-201.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 17 May 2010 17:29:14 -0500 Received: from 161.44.212.118 ([161.44.212.118]) by XMB-RCD-111.cisco.com ([72.163.62.153]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Mon, 17 May 2010 22:29:13 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.24.0.100205 Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 18:30:33 -0400 From: Tarek Saad <tsaad@cisco.com> To: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> Message-ID: <C8173BC9.10A95%tsaad@cisco.com> Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] [mpls] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document Thread-Index: Acr2EJAKwyRwuBZcsUeNf8UcqipAfQ== In-Reply-To: <4BF1AFAC.3010007@joelhalpern.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 May 2010 22:29:14.0444 (UTC) FILETIME=[6137D8C0:01CAF610] Cc: mpls@ietf.org, CCAMP WG <ccamp@ietf.org>, MPLS-TP ad hoc team <ahmpls-tp@lists.itu.int>, pwe3@ietf.org, "mpls-tp@ietf.org" <mpls-tp@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [mpls] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 22:29:23 -0000 Yes, support. Thanks, -Tarek Loa Andersson wrote: > All, > > this is start a two week poll on making > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt > > an mpls working group document. > > To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp > mailing list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". > > Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support > or non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but > with another subject. > > The poll ends eob May 25th. > > /Loa > > _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From root@core3.amsl.com Tue May 18 02:30:03 2010 Return-Path: <root@core3.amsl.com> X-Original-To: ccamp@ietf.org Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id D025928C18C; Tue, 18 May 2010 02:30:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20100518093002.D025928C18C@core3.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 02:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] I-D Action:draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-01.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:30:03 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF. Title : Framework for GMPLS and PCE Control of G.709 Optical Transport Networks Author(s) : F. Zhang, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-01.txt Pages : 25 Date : 2010-05-18 This document provides a framework to allow the development of protocol extensions to support Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) and Path Computation Element (PCE) control of Optical Transport Networks (OTN) as specified in ITU-T Recommendation G.709 as consented in October 2009. zhang Expires November 2010 [page 1] draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-01.txt May 2010 A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-01.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-01.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2010-05-18022614.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- From andrea.digiglio@telecomitalia.it Mon May 17 00:37:19 2010 Return-Path: <andrea.digiglio@telecomitalia.it> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90DDD3A63EC; Mon, 17 May 2010 00:37:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.881 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.881 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_IT=0.635, HOST_EQ_IT=1.245] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qNBlRsGtXM7q; Mon, 17 May 2010 00:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from GRFEDG701BA020.telecomitalia.it (grfedg701ba020.telecomitalia.it [156.54.233.200]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD5D83A6898; Mon, 17 May 2010 00:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grfhub704ba020.griffon.local (10.188.101.117) by GRFEDG701BA020.telecomitalia.it (10.188.45.100) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.254.0; Mon, 17 May 2010 09:37:05 +0200 Received: from GRFMBX702BA020.griffon.local ([10.188.101.11]) by grfhub704ba020.griffon.local ([10.188.101.117]) with mapi; Mon, 17 May 2010 09:37:05 +0200 From: Di Giglio Andrea <andrea.digiglio@telecomitalia.it> To: 'Loa Andersson' <loa@pi.nu>, "mpls-tp@ietf.org" <mpls-tp@ietf.org>, "CCAMP WG" <ccamp@ietf.org>, "pwe3@ietf.org" <pwe3@ietf.org>, "mpls@ietf.org" <mpls@ietf.org>, MPLS-TP ad hoc team <ahmpls-tp@lists.itu.int> Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 09:37:05 +0200 Thread-Topic: [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document Thread-Index: AcrxD6r2Xi7kJQVxS2mQnRfhbLaBJwEhA5Vw Message-ID: <BFAC63786AC1C74DA2986390AF57BF3EA4D7687A03@GRFMBX702BA020.griffon.local> References: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> Accept-Language: it-IT, en-US Content-Language: it-IT X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: it-IT, en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 18 May 2010 04:11:57 -0700 Subject: [CCAMP] R: [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 07:37:19 -0000 no/do not support Regards, Andrea -----Messaggio originale----- Da: mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org] Per conto di= Loa Andersson Inviato: marted=EC 11 maggio 2010 15.41 A: mpls-tp@ietf.org; CCAMP WG; pwe3@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org; MPLS-TP ad hoc= team Oggetto: [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls worki= ng group document All, this is start a two week poll on making http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt an mpls working group document. 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From pankil@cisco.com Mon May 17 19:48:54 2010 Return-Path: <pankil@cisco.com> X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FDC93A6901; Mon, 17 May 2010 19:48:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OrDN2QOGfm1i; Mon, 17 May 2010 19:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rtp-iport-2.cisco.com (rtp-iport-2.cisco.com [64.102.122.149]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC953A68EA; Mon, 17 May 2010 19:48:52 -0700 (PDT) Authentication-Results: rtp-iport-2.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAIKc8UtAZnwM/2dsb2JhbACdenGhJZoEhRAE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,252,1272844800"; d="scan'208,217";a="112165980" Received: from rtp-core-1.cisco.com ([64.102.124.12]) by rtp-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 18 May 2010 02:48:44 +0000 Received: from [10.86.252.2] ([10.86.252.2]) by rtp-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o4I2mdpH023106; Tue, 18 May 2010 02:48:44 GMT Message-ID: <4BF20007.80103@cisco.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 22:48:39 -0400 From: Pankil Shah <pankil@cisco.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> References: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000406000209050505030201" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 18 May 2010 04:11:55 -0700 Cc: mpls@ietf.org, CCAMP WG <ccamp@ietf.org>, MPLS-TP ad hoc team <ahmpls-tp@lists.itu.int>, pwe3@ietf.org, "mpls-tp@ietf.org" <mpls-tp@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group <ccamp.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp> List-Post: <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp>, <mailto:ccamp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 02:48:54 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000406000209050505030201 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes/support. Pankil Loa Andersson wrote: > All, > > this is start a two week poll on making > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt > > an mpls working group document. > > To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp > mailing list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". > > Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support > or non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but > with another subject. > > The poll ends eob May 25th. > > /Loa > > --------------000406000209050505030201 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title> Yes/support.

Pankil

Loa Andersson wrote:
All,

this is start a two week poll on making

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt

an mpls working group document.

To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp
mailing list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support".

Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support
or non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but
with another subject.

The poll ends eob May 25th.

/Loa



--------------000406000209050505030201-- From xqwei@fiberhome.com.cn Sun May 16 22:32:17 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2608F3A6D28; Sun, 16 May 2010 22:32:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.602 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.602 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_74=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qooq9WE+SDJb; Sun, 16 May 2010 22:32:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.fiberhome.com.cn (mail.fiberhome.com.cn [61.183.207.101]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47FB73A6D29; Sun, 16 May 2010 22:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xqwei (10.84.20.29) by mail.fiberhome.com.cn (10.19.8.20) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.340.0; Mon, 17 May 2010 13:19:18 +0800 Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 13:21:20 +0800 From: Xueqin WEI To: Loa Andersson , "mpls-tp@ietf.org" , CCAMP WG , "pwe3@ietf.org" , "mpls@ietf.org" , MPLS-TP adhoc team References: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> Message-ID: <201005171321199064079@fiberhome.com.cn> Organization: Fiberhome Telecommunication Technologies Co.,Ltd. X-mailer: Foxmail 6, 15, 201, 23 [cn] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====003_Dragon222583830825_=====" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 18 May 2010 04:11:57 -0700 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working groupdocument X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: xqwei@fiberhome.com.cn List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 05:32:17 -0000 --=====003_Dragon222583830825_===== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No/do not support Sincerely Yours Xueqin Wei 2010-05-1713:20:55 -------------------------------------------------------- Following is your email: Subject:poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working groupdocument Sent:2010-05-1121:56:40 From:Loa Andersson To:mpls-tp@ietf.org; CCAMP WG; pwe3@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org; MPLS-TP adhoc team CC to: All, this is start a two week poll on making http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt an mpls working group document. To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp mailing list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support or non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but with another subject. The poll ends eob May 25th. /Loa -- Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 --=====003_Dragon222583830825_===== Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
No/do not support
 
 
Sincerely Yours
Xueqin Wei
2010-05-1713:20:55
-------------------------------------------------------- 
Following is your email:
Subject:poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working groupdocument
Sent:2010-05-1121:56:40
From:Loa Andersson
To:mpls-tp@ietf.org; CCAMP WG; pwe3@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org; MPLS-TP adhoc team
CC to:
 
All,
this is start a two week poll on making
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt
an mpls working group document.
To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp
mailing list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support".
Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support
or non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but
with another subject.
The poll ends eob May 25th.
/Loa
-- 
Loa Andersson                         email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com
Sr Strategy and Standards Manager            loa@pi.nu
Ericsson Inc                          phone: +46 10 717 52 13
                                              +46 767 72 92 13
 --=====003_Dragon222583830825_=====-- From dave.mcdysan@verizon.com Tue May 18 09:00:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D55653A69FF; Tue, 18 May 2010 09:00:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.074 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.074 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.525, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FgO9maSwUIJZ; Tue, 18 May 2010 09:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sacmail4.verizon.com (sacmail4.verizon.com [192.76.84.42]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACF93A6BE5; Tue, 18 May 2010 09:00:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irvintrmemf1.verizon.com (irvintrmemf1.verizon.com [138.83.34.101]) by sacmail4.verizon.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.3) with ESMTP id o4IFttC5016117; Tue, 18 May 2010 12:00:03 -0400 (EDT) X-AuditID: 8a532265-b7bb6ae00000228e-31-4bf2b974edbd Received: from smtptpa3.verizon.com ( [138.83.71.176]) by irvintrmemf1.verizon.com (Symantec Brightmail Gateway) with SMTP id DA.9C.08846.479B2FB4; Tue, 18 May 2010 10:59:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from FHDP1CCMXCG01.us.one.verizon.com ([166.68.240.33]) by smtptpa3.verizon.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id o4IFxiZG002495; Tue, 18 May 2010 11:59:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from FHDP1LUMXCV14.us.one.verizon.com ([166.68.125.35]) by FHDP1CCMXCG01.us.one.verizon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 18 May 2010 11:59:47 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 11:59:43 -0400 Message-ID: <793F49BA1FC821409F99F10862A0E4DB06ED1DF2@FHDP1LUMXCV14.us.one.verizon.com> In-Reply-To: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document Thread-Index: AcrxD6VtRArmvFAWRy2YO3PB/PBfNwFk3qKw References: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> From: "Mcdysan, David E" To: "Loa Andersson" , , "CCAMP WG" , , , "MPLS-TP ad hoc team" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 May 2010 15:59:47.0354 (UTC) FILETIME=[23C29FA0:01CAF6A3] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:54:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 16:00:23 -0000 yes/support=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org]=20 > On Behalf Of Loa Andersson > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 9:41 AM > To: mpls-tp@ietf.org; CCAMP WG; pwe3@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org;=20 > MPLS-TP ad hoc team > Subject: [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv=20 > an mpls working group document >=20 > All, >=20 > this is start a two week poll on making >=20 > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt >=20 > an mpls working group document. >=20 > To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp=20 > mailing list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". >=20 > Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support or=20 > non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but with=20 > another subject. >=20 > The poll ends eob May 25th. >=20 > /Loa >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 >=20 > Loa Andersson email:=20 > loa.andersson@ericsson.com > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > +46 767 72 92=20 > 13 _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was created by the sender using your @mci.com=20 > address. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 18 May 2010 12:39:32 -0700 Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , MPLS-TP ad hoc team , CCAMP WG , David Ward , "mpls-tp@ietf.org" , "pwe3@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 19:32:13 -0000 Loa - The draft is a reasonable starting point to enable reuse of BFD for MPLS-TP= CC/CV. The draft is not complete and has a number of open issues but, give= n attempts at reuse of existing technology was a goal of the MPLS-TP effort= and the draft describes some simple refinements to BFD to meet the require= ments; I support it's acceptance as a work item. -DWard On May 11, 2010, at 6:41 AM, Loa Andersson wrote: > All, >=20 > this is start a two week poll on making >=20 > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt >=20 > an mpls working group document. >=20 > To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp > mailing list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". >=20 > Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support > or non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but > with another subject. >=20 > The poll ends eob May 25th. >=20 > /Loa >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 >=20 > Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > +46 767 72 92 13 > _______________________________________________ > mpls-tp mailing list > mpls-tp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-tp From sriganesh.kini@ericsson.com Tue May 18 14:26:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1409E3A6AB5; Tue, 18 May 2010 14:26:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.937 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.937 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.663, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v+LO4UvRnj6u; Tue, 18 May 2010 14:26:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr1.ericy.com (imr1.ericy.com [198.24.6.9]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4833A6B12; Tue, 18 May 2010 14:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eusaamw0706.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.31]) by imr1.ericy.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o4ILV9uj030498; Tue, 18 May 2010 16:31:31 -0500 Received: from EUSAACMS0703.eamcs.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.203]) by eusaamw0706.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.31]) with mapi; Tue, 18 May 2010 17:25:33 -0400 From: Sriganesh Kini To: Loa Andersson , "mpls-tp@ietf.org" , CCAMP WG , "pwe3@ietf.org" , "mpls@ietf.org" , MPLS-TP ad hoc team Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 17:25:32 -0400 Thread-Topic: [mpls] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document Thread-Index: AcrxD7du+cgqchhoS3a6WDtXXez1sgFwI+Fg Message-ID: <5A5E55DF96F73844AF7DFB0F48721F0F52EDF448A5@EUSAACMS0703.eamcs.ericsson.se> References: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [mpls] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 21:26:27 -0000 Loa, While this draft may have open issues, it has the right foundation. I support making this a WG doc. Thanks - Sri =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On=20 > Behalf Of Loa Andersson > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:41 AM > To: mpls-tp@ietf.org; CCAMP WG; pwe3@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org;=20 > MPLS-TP ad hoc team > Subject: [mpls] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an=20 > mpls working group document >=20 > All, >=20 > this is start a two week poll on making >=20 > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt >=20 > an mpls working group document. >=20 > To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp=20 > mailing list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". >=20 > Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support or=20 > non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but with=20 > another subject. >=20 > The poll ends eob May 25th. >=20 > /Loa >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 >=20 > Loa Andersson email:=20 > loa.andersson@ericsson.com > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > +46 767 72 92=20 > 13 _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > = From sriganesh.kini@ericsson.com Tue May 18 14:26:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39D5F3A6ACF; Tue, 18 May 2010 14:26:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.937 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.937 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.663, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hvsL1BVUER0J; Tue, 18 May 2010 14:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr1.ericy.com (imr1.ericy.com [198.24.6.9]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED4CD28C10B; Tue, 18 May 2010 14:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eusaamw0707.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.32]) by imr1.ericy.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o4ILVcjj030794; Tue, 18 May 2010 16:31:38 -0500 Received: from EUSAACMS0703.eamcs.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.203]) by eusaamw0707.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.32]) with mapi; Tue, 18 May 2010 17:25:43 -0400 From: Sriganesh Kini To: Loa Andersson , "mpls-tp@ietf.org" , CCAMP WG , "pwe3@ietf.org" , "mpls@ietf.org" , MPLS-TP ad hoc team Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 17:25:32 -0400 Thread-Topic: [mpls] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document Thread-Index: AcrxD7du+cgqchhoS3a6WDtXXez1sgFwI+Fg Message-ID: <5A5E55DF96F73844AF7DFB0F48721F0F52EDF448A7@EUSAACMS0703.eamcs.ericsson.se> References: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [mpls] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 21:26:36 -0000 Loa, While this draft may have open issues, it has the right foundation. I support making this a WG doc. Thanks - Sri =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On=20 > Behalf Of Loa Andersson > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:41 AM > To: mpls-tp@ietf.org; CCAMP WG; pwe3@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org;=20 > MPLS-TP ad hoc team > Subject: [mpls] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an=20 > mpls working group document >=20 > All, >=20 > this is start a two week poll on making >=20 > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt >=20 > an mpls working group document. >=20 > To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp=20 > mailing list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". >=20 > Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support or=20 > non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but with=20 > another subject. >=20 > The poll ends eob May 25th. >=20 > /Loa >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 >=20 > Loa Andersson email:=20 > loa.andersson@ericsson.com > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > +46 767 72 92=20 > 13 _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > = From neil.2.harrison@bt.com Tue May 18 14:55:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A60B13A69B7; Tue, 18 May 2010 14:55:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.549 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.549 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.050, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yI497HEkIfNM; Tue, 18 May 2010 14:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.smtp.bt.com (smtp2.smtp.bt.com [217.32.164.150]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886243A698F; Tue, 18 May 2010 14:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from E03MVB2-UKBR.domain1.systemhost.net ([193.113.197.108]) by smtp2.smtp.bt.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 18 May 2010 22:55:36 +0100 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 22:55:35 +0100 Message-ID: <2ECAA42C79676B42AEBAC11229CA7D0C05E7FACF@E03MVB2-UKBR.domain1.systemhost.net> In-Reply-To: <5A5E55DF96F73844AF7DFB0F48721F0F52EDF448A7@EUSAACMS0703.eamcs.ericsson.se> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [mpls] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document Thread-Index: AcrxD7du+cgqchhoS3a6WDtXXez1sgFwI+FgAADzK6A= From: To: , , , , , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 May 2010 21:55:36.0593 (UTC) FILETIME=[D8E5F810:01CAF6D4] Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [mpls] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 21:55:45 -0000 Sri....on what basis do you make this claim, ie "has the right foundation"? Request/response OAM (like BFD was conceived as) is fine for a cl-ps mode network like IP but not for a co-ps mode network (=3D> wrong foundation)....here defect detection/handling needs to be unidirectional and the CV function requires an absolute SA not some locally generated ID (=3D> wrong foundation again). regards, Neil=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On=20 > Behalf Of Sriganesh Kini > Sent: 18 May 2010 22:26 > To: Loa Andersson; mpls-tp@ietf.org; CCAMP WG; pwe3@ietf.org;=20 > mpls@ietf.org; MPLS-TP ad hoc team > Subject: Re: [mpls] poll on making=20 > draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document >=20 > Loa, >=20 > While this draft may have open issues, it has the right foundation. >=20 > I support making this a WG doc. >=20 > Thanks >=20 > - Sri > =20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org]=20 > On Behalf=20 > > Of Loa Andersson > > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 6:41 AM > > To: mpls-tp@ietf.org; CCAMP WG; pwe3@ietf.org;=20 > mpls@ietf.org; MPLS-TP=20 > > ad hoc team > > Subject: [mpls] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls=20 > > working group document > >=20 > > All, > >=20 > > this is start a two week poll on making > >=20 > >=20 > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt > >=20 > > an mpls working group document. > >=20 > > To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp=20 > mailing list=20 > > indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". > >=20 > > Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support or=20 > > non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but=20 > with another=20 > > subject. > >=20 > > The poll ends eob May 25th. > >=20 > > /Loa > >=20 > >=20 > > -- > >=20 > >=20 > > Loa Andersson email:=20 > > loa.andersson@ericsson.com > > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > > +46 767 72 92 > > 13 _______________________________________________ > > mpls mailing list > > mpls@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > >=20 > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls >=20 From zhangfatai@huawei.com Tue May 18 20:32:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2708F3A688F for ; Tue, 18 May 2010 20:32:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.739 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.739 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GfIBohmr3dEd for ; Tue, 18 May 2010 20:32:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from szxga02-in.huawei.com (szxga02-in.huawei.com [119.145.14.65]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 919443A6876 for ; Tue, 18 May 2010 20:32:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (szxga02-in [172.24.2.6]) by szxga02-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0L2N00KNVDUA9O@szxga02-in.huawei.com> for ccamp@ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2010 11:32:34 +0800 (CST) Received: from huawei.com ([172.24.2.119]) by szxga02-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0L2N00H25DUA8S@szxga02-in.huawei.com> for ccamp@ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2010 11:32:34 +0800 (CST) Received: from Z41162C ([10.70.76.81]) by szxml04-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0L2N00KN7DU86I@szxml04-in.huawei.com> for ccamp@ietf.org; Wed, 19 May 2010 11:32:34 +0800 (CST) Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 11:32:32 +0800 From: Fatai Zhang To: ccamp@ietf.org Message-id: <029e01caf703$eaad29e0$514c460a@china.huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_wM5XaEiloN45R0D0iuS46A)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <20100518093002.D025928C18C@core3.amsl.com> Subject: Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action:draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-01.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 03:32:45 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_wM5XaEiloN45R0D0iuS46A) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi CCAMPers, We have posted a new version for OTN control framework, which is draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-01.txt. Besides some editorial modifications, two major changes have been made in this version: (1) Added some text in Introduction Section to indicate that "No additional Switching Type and LSP Encoding Type are required". (2) Refined Section 5.3. to specify what should be considered for routing protocol. Any comments or suggestions are appreciated. Best Regards Fatai ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 5:30 PM Subject: [CCAMP] I-D Action:draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-01.txt >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF. > > > Title : Framework for GMPLS and PCE Control of G.709 Optical Transport Networks > Author(s) : F. Zhang, et al. > Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-01.txt > Pages : 25 > Date : 2010-05-18 > > This document provides a framework to allow the development of > protocol extensions to support Generalized Multi-Protocol Label > Switching (GMPLS) and Path Computation Element (PCE) control of > Optical Transport Networks (OTN) as specified in ITU-T Recommendation > G.709 as consented in October 2009. > > > > > zhang > > > > > > Expires November 2010 > > > > > > [page 1] > > draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-01.txt > > > > > > May 2010 > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-01.txt > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader > implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the > Internet-Draft. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > --Boundary_(ID_wM5XaEiloN45R0D0iuS46A) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Hi CCAMPers,
 
We have posted a new version for OTN control framework, which is draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-01.txt.
 
Besides some editorial modifications, two major changes have been made in this version:
(1) Added some text in Introduction Section to indicate that "No additional Switching Type and LSP Encoding Type are required".
(2) Refined Section  5.3. to specify what should be considered for routing protocol.
 
Any comments or suggestions are appreciated.
 
 
 

Best Regards
 
Fatai
 
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>A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF.
>
>
> Title           : Framework for GMPLS and PCE Control of G.709 Optical Transport Networks
> Author(s)       : F. Zhang, et al.
> Filename        : draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-01.txt
> Pages           : 25
> Date            : 2010-05-18
>
> This document provides a framework to allow the development of
> protocol extensions to support Generalized Multi-Protocol Label
> Switching (GMPLS) and Path Computation Element (PCE) control of
> Optical Transport Networks (OTN) as specified in ITU-T Recommendation
> G.709 as consented in October 2009.
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> zhang
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> Expires November 2010
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> [page 1]
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> draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-01.txt
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> May 2010
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> A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-01.txt
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> --Boundary_(ID_wM5XaEiloN45R0D0iuS46A)-- From kam.lam@alcatel-lucent.com Wed May 19 11:03:12 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0AA63A6B1D; Wed, 19 May 2010 11:03:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hwdXfbMWqN8m; Wed, 19 May 2010 11:03:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ihemail2.lucent.com (ihemail2.lucent.com [135.245.0.35]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E8328B23E; Wed, 19 May 2010 11:01:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usnavsmail3.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com (usnavsmail3.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com [135.3.39.11]) by ihemail2.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id o4JI1Do7002637 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.35 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 135.3.39.11 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 18:03:13 -0000 no/do not support Regards, Kam =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Loa Andersson > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 9:41 AM > To: mpls-tp@ietf.org; CCAMP WG; pwe3@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org; MPLS-TP ad > hoc team > Subject: [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls > working group document >=20 > All, >=20 > this is start a two week poll on making >=20 > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt >=20 > an mpls working group document. >=20 > To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp > mailing list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". >=20 > Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support > or non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but > with another subject. >=20 > The poll ends eob May 25th. >=20 > /Loa >=20 >=20 > -- >=20 >=20 > Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > +46 767 72 92 13 > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From pietro_vittorio.grandi@alcatel-lucent.com Wed May 19 23:07:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F8F13A6C9B; Wed, 19 May 2010 23:07:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.351 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.351 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7tBbXzcnGmsg; Wed, 19 May 2010 23:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smail2.alcatel.fr (smail2.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.57]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA5A3A69E2; Wed, 19 May 2010 23:07:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB04.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB04.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.64]) by smail2.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id o4K66t6Z020292 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 20 May 2010 08:06:55 +0200 Received: from FRMRSSXCHMBSB1.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.41]) by FRMRSSXCHHUB04.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.64]) with mapi; Thu, 20 May 2010 08:06:52 +0200 From: "GRANDI, PIETRO VITTORIO (PIETRO VITTORIO)" To: "Lam, Hing-Kam (Kam)" , Loa Andersson , "mpls-tp@ietf.org" , CCAMP WG , "pwe3@ietf.org" , "mpls@ietf.org" , MPLS-TP ad hoc team Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 08:06:51 +0200 Thread-Topic: [mpls-tp] [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document Thread-Index: AcrxD6ID9cG4L6jVRuORzL8J83KQegGbX7dAABlfJUA= Message-ID: References: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> <7F76AEFB05C38145BABA0D545E3CFFD542488D9A@USNAVSXCHMBSA2.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com> In-Reply-To: <7F76AEFB05C38145BABA0D545E3CFFD542488D9A@USNAVSXCHMBSA2.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 155.132.188.80 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 06:07:42 -0000 no/do not support =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Pietro Vittorio Grandi Terrestrial Optics Unit - System Architecture Alcatel-Lucent Vimercate (Italy) Tel: +39 039 686 4930 Mail: pietro_vittorio.grandi@alcatel-lucent.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. That's rel= ativity. (A. Einstein) -----Original Message----- From: mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf = Of Lam, Hing-Kam (Kam) Sent: mercoled=EC 19 maggio 2010 20.01 To: Loa Andersson; mpls-tp@ietf.org; CCAMP WG; pwe3@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org= ; MPLS-TP ad hoc team Subject: Re: [mpls-tp] [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv a= n mpls working group document no/do not support Regards, Kam =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Loa Andersson > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 9:41 AM > To: mpls-tp@ietf.org; CCAMP WG; pwe3@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org; MPLS-TP ad > hoc team > Subject: [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls > working group document >=20 > All, >=20 > this is start a two week poll on making >=20 > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt >=20 > an mpls working group document. >=20 > To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp > mailing list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". >=20 > Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support > or non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but > with another subject. >=20 > The poll ends eob May 25th. >=20 > /Loa >=20 >=20 > -- >=20 >=20 > Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > +46 767 72 92 13 > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp _______________________________________________ mpls-tp mailing list mpls-tp@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-tp From sergio.belotti@alcatel-lucent.com Thu May 20 01:19:03 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979A63A6B4E; Thu, 20 May 2010 01:19:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.32 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.32 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.929, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TUab-fPTCopD; Thu, 20 May 2010 01:19:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smail2.alcatel.fr (smail2.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.57]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 605503A6D3A; Thu, 20 May 2010 01:16:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB04.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB04.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.64]) by smail2.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id o4K8GAKu004296 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Thu, 20 May 2010 10:16:21 +0200 Received: from FRMRSSXCHMBSB1.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.41]) by FRMRSSXCHHUB04.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.64]) with mapi; Thu, 20 May 2010 10:16:07 +0200 From: "BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO)" To: Loa Andersson Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 10:16:01 +0200 Thread-Topic: [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document Thread-Index: AcrxD6Z+vBOT7+WnQ7iJGHfUbfhhEwG5JtoA Message-ID: References: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: it-IT X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 155.132.188.80 Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , hoc team , CCAMP WG , "mpls-tp@ietf.org" , "pwe3@ietf.org" , MPLS-TP Subject: [CCAMP] R: [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 08:19:04 -0000 no/do not support Sergio Belotti System Architecture Optics Division-Terrestrial Optics Unit ALCATEL-LUCENT +39 039 6863033 +39 039 6863590 -----Messaggio originale----- Da: mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org] Per conto di= Loa Andersson Inviato: marted=EC 11 maggio 2010 15.41 A: mpls-tp@ietf.org; CCAMP WG; pwe3@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org; MPLS-TP ad hoc= team Oggetto: [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls worki= ng group document All, this is start a two week poll on making http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt an mpls working group document. To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp mailing list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support or non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but with another subject. The poll ends eob May 25th. /Loa --=20 Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 _______________________________________________ mpls-tp mailing list mpls-tp@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-tp From root@core3.amsl.com Thu May 20 08:45:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietf.org Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id ADB6A3A69FD; Thu, 20 May 2010 08:45:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20100520154501.ADB6A3A69FD@core3.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 08:45:01 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] I-D Action:draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-impairments-02.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 15:45:01 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF. Title : A Framework for the Control of Wavelength Switched Optical Networks (WSON) with Impairments Author(s) : G. Bernstein Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-impairments-02.txt Pages : 35 Date : 2010-05-20 The operation of optical networks requires information on the physical characterization of optical network elements, subsystems, devices, and cabling. These physical characteristics may be important to consider when using a GMPLS control plane to support path setup and maintenance. This document discusses how the definition and characterization of optical fiber, devices, subsystems, and network elements contained in various ITU-T recommendations can be combined with GMPLS control plane protocols and mechanisms to support Impairment Aware Routing and Wavelength Assignment (IA-RWA) in optical networks. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-impairments-02.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-impairments-02.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2010-05-20084253.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- From IBryskin@advaoptical.com Thu May 20 12:18:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 376703A6898; Thu, 20 May 2010 12:18:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JmDcIjoYDE75; Thu, 20 May 2010 12:18:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.advaoptical.com (mail.advaoptical.com [213.70.90.131]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F097B3A690D; Thu, 20 May 2010 12:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from muc-srv-mimesweeper.advaoptical.com (muc-srv-mimesweeper.advaoptical.com [10.200.0.15]) by mail.advaoptical.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o4KJGV6X002832; Thu, 20 May 2010 21:16:32 +0200 Received: from muc-srv-exhub.advaoptical.com (muc-srv-exhub.advaoptical.com) by muc-srv-mimesweeper.advaoptical.com (Clearswift SMTPRS 5.2.9) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 20 May 2010 21:17:44 +0200 Received: from atl-srv-exgen.atl.advaoptical.com (172.16.5.27) by muc-srv-exhub.advaoptical.com (172.20.1.44) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.254.0; Thu, 20 May 2010 21:17:46 +0200 Received: from atl-srv-exgen.atl.advaoptical.com ([172.16.5.27]) by atl-srv-exgen.atl.advaoptical.com ([172.16.5.27]) with mapi; Thu, 20 May 2010 15:17:44 -0400 From: Igor Bryskin To: Loa Andersson , "mpls-tp@ietf.org" , CCAMP WG , "pwe3@ietf.org" , "mpls@ietf.org" , MPLS-TP ad hoc team Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 15:17:39 -0400 Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document Thread-Index: AcrxD6JB0Xv61U4TRkyux+Dnnuq4ewHQVfMw Message-ID: <052C67B4ED558D41BBDEA7CA9FC6DCDC53C0AE53EB@atl-srv-exgen.atl.advaoptical.com> References: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 19:18:45 -0000 Yes, I support. Cheers, Igor -----Original Message----- From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of L= oa Andersson Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 9:41 AM To: mpls-tp@ietf.org; CCAMP WG; pwe3@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org; MPLS-TP ad ho= c team Subject: [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working= group document All, this is start a two week poll on making http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt an mpls working group document. To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp mailing list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support or non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but with another subject. The poll ends eob May 25th. /Loa --=20 Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From loa@pi.nu Thu May 20 12:25:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 778893A6A0D; Thu, 20 May 2010 12:25:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.648 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.648 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.649, BAYES_50=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XpoI4LVmYru7; Thu, 20 May 2010 12:25:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.pi.nu (mail.pi.nu [194.71.127.148]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A8BB3A6828; Thu, 20 May 2010 12:25:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pi.nu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9F0D404F; Thu, 20 May 2010 21:25:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 129.192.170.250 (SquirrelMail authenticated user loa@pi.nu) by pi.nu with HTTP; Thu, 20 May 2010 21:25:37 +0200 Message-ID: <802f8a50b03d34b5726e533c18df3c42.squirrel@pi.nu> Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 21:25:37 +0200 From: loa@pi.nu To: mpls@ietf.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: ccamp@ietf.org, ahmpls-tp@lists.itu.int, pwe3@ietf.org, mpls-tp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] Decision on halting the poll on draft-asm-mpls-tp-cc-cv X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 19:25:46 -0000 Working Group, Clearly the poll on draft-asm-mpls-tp-cc-cv is not converging to a WG consensus and it is obvious that it is not possible to judge consensus from the current poll. We are therefore halting the poll immediately. However further discussion of the technical issues in support and opposition are strongly encouraged. Especially in good IETF tradition text should be suplied for the changes you want to make to the document. Loa and George MPLS Working Group Co-Chairs From rcallon@juniper.net Wed May 19 14:28:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF343A681D; Wed, 19 May 2010 14:28:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.777 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.777 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.822, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id airFim00WGzi; Wed, 19 May 2010 14:28:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og125.obsmtp.com (exprod7og125.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.28]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5A93A67BD; Wed, 19 May 2010 14:28:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from source ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob125.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKS/RYA7jZ98FLi2NQtHzm8ACb96JERp+x@postini.com; Wed, 19 May 2010 14:28:46 PDT Received: from p-emfe01-wf.jnpr.net (172.28.145.24) by P-EMHUB02-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.36) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.436.0; Wed, 19 May 2010 14:28:07 -0700 Received: from EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net ([fe80::1914:3299:33d9:e43b]) by p-emfe01-wf.jnpr.net ([fe80::d0d1:653d:5b91:a123%11]) with mapi; Wed, 19 May 2010 17:28:06 -0400 From: Ross Callon To: Loa Andersson , "mpls-tp@ietf.org" , CCAMP WG , "pwe3@ietf.org" , "mpls@ietf.org" , MPLS-TP ad hoc team Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 17:28:04 -0400 Thread-Topic: [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document Thread-Index: AcrxD5mKn9U3X+89TdWMg2R04skpOAGia+oQ Message-ID: References: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <4BE95E75.9040406@pi.nu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 21 May 2010 04:13:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 21:28:55 -0000 Yes / I support this becoming a working group document.=20 Most of the comments that I have seen raised are things to be discussed dur= ing the normal progression of a working group document (ie, would be valid = concerns if this were at working group last call, but IMHO don't make sense= as a reason to slow down acceptance of this as a WG document).=20 Thanks, Ross=20 -----Original Message----- From: mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf = Of Loa Andersson Sent: 11 May 2010 09:41 To: mpls-tp@ietf.org; CCAMP WG; pwe3@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org; MPLS-TP ad ho= c team Subject: [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls worki= ng group document All, this is start a two week poll on making http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt an mpls working group document. To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp mailing list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support or non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but with another subject. The poll ends eob May 25th. /Loa --=20 Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 _______________________________________________ mpls-tp mailing list mpls-tp@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-tp From curtis@occnc.com Sun May 23 07:16:17 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FC613A6C22 for ; Sun, 23 May 2010 07:16:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.395 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.395 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.396, BAYES_50=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XGhKnJ7Uo4kn for ; Sun, 23 May 2010 07:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harbor.orleans.occnc.com (harbor.orleans.occnc.com [173.9.106.135]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2DF33A6C13 for ; Sun, 23 May 2010 07:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harbor.orleans.occnc.com (harbor.orleans.occnc.com [173.9.106.135]) by harbor.orleans.occnc.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o4NEG5f7097144; Sun, 23 May 2010 10:16:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from curtis@harbor.orleans.occnc.com) Message-Id: <201005231416.o4NEG5f7097144@harbor.orleans.occnc.com> To: Lou Berger From: Curtis Villamizar In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 07 May 2010 09:01:10 EDT." <4BE40F16.6020107@labn.net> Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 10:16:05 -0400 Sender: curtis@occnc.com Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Hello Message X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: curtis@occnc.com List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 14:16:17 -0000 In message <4BE40F16.6020107@labn.net> Lou Berger writes: > > I was referring to the last paragraph in the same section: > > Also note that this specification does not offer a generic GTSM > capability negotiation mechanism, so messages of the protocol > augmented with the GTSM behavior will need to be used if dynamic > negotiation is deemed necessary. > > Lou Lou, GTSM has been used for a long time and no one who has deployed GTSM has been begging for a GTSM negociation protocol. So I'm questioning whether it is really needed. Curtis > On 5/6/2010 11:04 PM, Curtis Villamizar wrote: > > In message<4BE338B4.4070801@labn.net> > > Lou Berger writes: > >> > >> Curtis, > >> > >> If there are GTSM specific implications, e.g., to negotiate when GTSM > >> is to be used, they need to be in a GTSM specific document... > >> > >> Lou > > > > > > Lou, > > > > GTSM can be used on any protocol. That is the "G" in it. > > > > RFC 5082: > > > > 2.1. GTSM Negotiation > > > > This document assumes that, when used with existing protocols, GTSM > > will be manually configured between protocol peers. That is, no > > automatic GTSM capability negotiation, such as is provided by RFC > > 3392 [RFC3392], is assumed or defined. > > > > If both ends of the RSVP-TE adjacency are in the same admin domain, > > just configure it. Is so, it does change the TTL value, which is what > > was being discussed. The above paragraph acknowledges currrent > > practice. > > > > Curtis From yakov@juniper.net Mon May 24 10:14:52 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBB423A6C64; Mon, 24 May 2010 10:14:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.04 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.04 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.559, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZtiD6FGBTJPh; Mon, 24 May 2010 10:14:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og116.obsmtp.com (exprod7og116.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.219]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4043A6C19; Mon, 24 May 2010 10:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from source ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob116.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKS/qz/nxsUW8BnBkB3mpV3J/3tabbGKDG@postini.com; Mon, 24 May 2010 10:14:43 PDT Received: from p-emfe01-sac.jnpr.net (66.129.254.72) by P-EMHUB01-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.2.254.0; Mon, 24 May 2010 10:12:14 -0700 Received: from p-emlb02-sac.jnpr.net ([66.129.254.47]) by p-emfe01-sac.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 24 May 2010 10:11:19 -0700 Received: from emailsmtp56.jnpr.net ([172.24.60.77]) by p-emlb02-sac.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 24 May 2010 09:56:39 -0700 Received: from magenta.juniper.net ([172.17.27.123]) by emailsmtp56.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 24 May 2010 09:56:38 -0700 Received: from juniper.net (sapphire.juniper.net [172.17.28.108]) by magenta.juniper.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id o4OGucD92527; Mon, 24 May 2010 09:56:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yakov@juniper.net) Message-ID: <201005241656.o4OGucD92527@magenta.juniper.net> To: , , , , MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <14160.1274720198.1@juniper.net> Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 09:56:38 -0700 From: Yakov Rekhter X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 May 2010 16:56:38.0528 (UTC) FILETIME=[1374F800:01CAFB62] Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [mpls] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv an mpls working group document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 17:14:52 -0000 Loa, > All, > > this is start a two week poll on making > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv-04.txt > > an mpls working group document. > > To respond to the poll please send a mail to the mpls-tp > mailing list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". > > Reviews, comments on the draft, or motivation for support > or non-support should be sent to the same mailing list, but > with another subject. > > The poll ends eob May 25th. yes/support. Yakov. From db3546@att.com Tue May 25 08:59:58 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B04B3A6AD9; Tue, 25 May 2010 08:59:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.175 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.175 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.990, BAYES_40=-0.185, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IR4mpeJ4F7RP; Tue, 25 May 2010 08:59:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail167.messagelabs.com (mail167.messagelabs.com [216.82.253.179]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 441803A6B9D; Tue, 25 May 2010 08:59:56 -0700 (PDT) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: db3546@att.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-167.messagelabs.com!1274803186!17632972!1 X-StarScan-Version: 6.2.4; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [144.160.20.146] Received: (qmail 14634 invoked from network); 25 May 2010 15:59:47 -0000 Received: from sbcsmtp7.sbc.com (HELO mlpd194.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com) (144.160.20.146) by server-8.tower-167.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 25 May 2010 15:59:47 -0000 Received: from enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mlpd194.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o4PFxQae032321; Tue, 25 May 2010 11:59:27 -0400 Received: from gaalpa1msgusr7e.ugd.att.com (gaalpa1msgusr7e.ugd.att.com [135.53.26.19]) by mlpd194.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o4PFxNsq032261; Tue, 25 May 2010 11:59:23 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 11:59:41 -0400 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Please publish draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ethernet-pbb-te-04.txt Thread-Index: Acr8I0jeH9sQ8HocQE6uiKkmjmwkoA== From: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A (ATTLABS)" To: "Adrian Farrel" Cc: CCAMP , iesg-secretary@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] Please publish draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ethernet-pbb-te-04.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 15:59:58 -0000 Proto-write-up for draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ethernet-pbb-te-04.txt =09 Intended status: Proposed Standard (1.a) Who is the Document Shepherd for this document? Has the Document Shepherd personally reviewed this version of the=20 document and, in particular, does he or she believe this=20 version is ready for forwarding to the IESG for publication? Deborah Brungard is the document shepherd. She has personally reviewed the I-D and believes it is ready for forwarding to the IESG for publication. =20 (1.b) Has the document had adequate review both from key WG members=20 and from key non-WG members? Does the Document Shepherd have=20 any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? The I-D has had a good level of discussion and review. Several liaisons were exchanged with IEEE, ITU-T, and MEF during CCAMP's Ethernet work to ensure compatibility and cooperation between the SDOs. (1.c) Does the Document Shepherd have concerns that the document=20 needs more review from a particular or broader perspective,=20 e.g., security, operational complexity, someone familiar with=20 AAA, internationalization or XML? No concerns. =20 (1.d) Does the Document Shepherd have any specific concerns or=20 issues with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he=20 or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or=20 has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any=20 event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated=20 that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those=20 concerns here. Has an IPR disclosure related to this document=20 been filed? If so, please include a reference to the=20 disclosure and summarize the WG discussion and conclusion on=20 this issue. No concerns. Two IPR disclosures have been filed: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1195/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1174/ No concerns have been raised. =20 (1.e) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it=20 represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with=20 others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and=20 agree with it? WG consensus is solid. =20 (1.f) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme=20 discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in=20 separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It=20 should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is=20 entered into the ID Tracker.) No threats. =20 (1.g) Has the Document Shepherd personally verified that the=20 document satisfies all ID nits? (See the Internet-Drafts Checklist =20 and http://tools.ietf.org/tools/idnits/). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. Has the document=20 met all formal review criteria it needs to, such as the MIB=20 Doctor, media type and URI type reviews? All checks made. =20 (1.h) Has the document split its references into normative and=20 informative? Are there normative references to documents that=20 are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear=20 state? If such normative references exist, what is the=20 strategy for their completion? Are there normative references=20 that are downward references, as described in [RFC3967]? If=20 so, list these downward references to support the Area=20 Director in the Last Call procedure for them [RFC3967]. One reference to a document in the process of publication. References split. No downrefs.=20 =20 (1.i) Has the Document Shepherd verified that the document IANA=20 consideration section exists and is consistent with the body=20 of the document? If the document specifies protocol=20 extensions, are reservations requested in appropriate IANA=20 registries? Are the IANA registries clearly identified? If=20 the document creates a new registry, does it define the=20 proposed initial contents of the registry and an allocation=20 procedure for future registrations? Does it suggest a=20 reasonable name for the new registry? See [RFC5226]. If the=20 document describes an Expert Review process has Shepherd=20 conferred with the Responsible Area Director so that the IESG=20 can appoint the needed Expert during the IESG Evaluation? =20 The IANA section looks good. =20 (1.j) Has the Document Shepherd verified that sections of the=20 document that are written in a formal language, such as XML=20 code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc., validate correctly in=20 an automated checker? =20 No formal language is used. =20 (1.k) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document=20 Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document=20 Announcement Write-Up? Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval=20 announcement contains the following sections:=20 Technical Summary=20 Relevant content can frequently be found in the abstract=20 and/or introduction of the document. If not, this may be=20 an indication that there are deficiencies in the abstract=20 or introduction. This specification is complementary to the GMPLS Ethernet Label Switching Architecture and Framework [RFC5828] and describes the technology specific aspects of GMPLS control for Provider Backbone Bridge Traffic Engineering (PBB-TE) [IEEE 802.1Qay]. The necessary GMPLS extensions and mechanisms are described to establish Ethernet PBB-TE point to point (P2P) and point to multipoint (P2MP) connections. This document supports, but does not modify, the standard IEEE data plane. Working Group Summary=20 Was there anything in WG process that is worth noting? For=20 example, was there controversy about particular points or=20 were there decisions where the consensus was particularly=20 rough? No. =20 Document Quality=20 Are there existing implementations of the protocol? Have a=20 significant number of vendors indicated their plan to=20 implement the specification? Are there any reviewers that=20 merit special mention as having done a thorough review,=20 e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a=20 conclusion that the document had no substantive issues? If=20 there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review,=20 what was its course (briefly)? In the case of a Media Type=20 review, on what date was the request posted? There are no known implementations, but it is expected that several vendors plan to implement. From lberger@labn.net Wed May 26 11:55:52 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 618EC3A69CF for ; Wed, 26 May 2010 11:55:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.335 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.335 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EqG3yQ6UruIe for ; Wed, 26 May 2010 11:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from outbound-mail-313.bluehost.com (cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 965DE3A69D2 for ; Wed, 26 May 2010 11:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 27143 invoked by uid 0); 26 May 2010 18:55:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 26 May 2010 18:55:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=labn.net; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Identified-User; b=Da+S9zFA1DFUH/o57511VvCvbB6TGG8CMAmBN04CvV0g1AetFhe5Pi8KXESy35HaIva0xbPiV8S+hMOAN+oR7hijHVEE/XnzlpS5ZvcT8X9sGZgAsFf7i7IYuRudJwHS; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OHLlW-0002ir-Lc; Wed, 26 May 2010 12:55:42 -0600 Message-ID: <4BFD6F03.2020600@labn.net> Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 14:57:07 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100301 Eudora/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: CCAMP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Subject: [CCAMP] Next steps with draft-sun-ccamp-dpm X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 18:55:52 -0000 All, At our last meeting we touched on what to do next with draft-sun-ccamp-dpm. As the document is a result of the WG review of draft-ietf-ccamp-lsp-dppm and was a condition for that document to be moved forward, and subsequently published as RFC 5814, we believe the dpm document should follow the same path through the WG. This means that the dpm document will be republished as draft-ietf-ccamp-lsp-dpm. Lou (and Deborah) From daniel@olddog.co.uk Wed May 26 15:40:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 656933A6A4A for ; Wed, 26 May 2010 15:40:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.412 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.412 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.294, BAYES_50=0.001, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_52=0.6, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 122tj78BE2B7 for ; Wed, 26 May 2010 15:40:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp3.iomartmail.com (unknown [62.128.193.159]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A92993A6A49 for ; Wed, 26 May 2010 15:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp3.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp3.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o4QMeOVB031392; Wed, 26 May 2010 23:40:24 +0100 Received: from Serenity (88-97-23-122.dsl.zen.co.uk [88.97.23.122]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp3.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o4QMeNEd031388; Wed, 26 May 2010 23:40:23 +0100 From: "Daniel King" To: Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 23:40:25 +0100 Message-ID: <002301cafd24$6f157e50$4d407af0$@co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0024_01CAFD2C.D0D9E650" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acr9JG6ITR4SN/fvTdS5eJTPEVEeFQ== Content-Language: en-gb Cc: ccamp-chairs@tools.ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] OIF Communication Received 21st May, 2010. X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 22:40:51 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01CAFD2C.D0D9E650 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello CCAMP'rs, CCAMP recently received a Communication from the OIF regarding clarification on the valid range for an unnumbered link identifier. The Communication can be viewed here: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/ccamp/trac/raw-attachment/ticket/27/OIF_IETF_C CAMP_liaison_21May10.pdf As usual the Communication has been recorded on our CCAMP Wiki: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/ccamp/trac/wiki/CommsLiasons A ticket (#27) has also been opened to track the task: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/ccamp/trac/report/1 Br, Dan. ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01CAFD2C.D0D9E650 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello CCAMP’rs,

 

CCAMP recently received a Communication from the = OIF regarding clarification on the valid range for an unnumbered link identifier. The = Communication can be viewed here:

 

http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/ccamp/= trac/raw-attachment/ticket/27/OIF_IETF_CCAMP_liaison_21May10.pdf=

 

As usual the Communication has been recorded on our = CCAMP Wiki:

 

http:= //trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/ccamp/trac/wiki/CommsLiasons

 

A ticket (#27) has also been opened to track the = task:

 

http://trac.to= ols.ietf.org/wg/ccamp/trac/report/1

 

Br, Dan.

 

 

         &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            =

------=_NextPart_000_0024_01CAFD2C.D0D9E650-- From wwwrun@core3.amsl.com Wed May 26 22:13:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietf.org Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 30) id 452AB3A6970; Wed, 26 May 2010 22:13:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Adrian Farrel(IETF RTG AREA) To: Greg Jones Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20100527051319.452AB3A6970@core3.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 22:13:19 -0700 (PDT) Cc: CCAMP Working Group , Yoichi Maeda , Peter Stassar , Patrik Falstrom , Adrian Farrel , Peter Anslow , Deborah Brungard Subject: [CCAMP] New Liaison Statement, "Lambda Switch Capable Equipment" X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Deborah Brungard List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 05:13:19 -0000 Title: Lambda Switch Capable Equipment Submission Date: 2010-05-26 URL of the IETF Web page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/liaison_detail.cgi?detail_id=901 From: Adrian Farrel(IETF RTG AREA) To: ITU-T SG15 Q6(Greg Jones ) Cc: Yoichi Maeda Peter Stassar Peter Anslow Adrian Farrel Stewart Bryant Patrik Falstrom CCAMP Working Group Lou Berger Reponse Contact: Deborah Brungard Lou Berger Technical Contact: Deborah Brungard Lou Berger Purpose: For information Body: Thank you for your liaison statement "COM 15 - LS 78 - E", "Lambda Switch Capable Equipment", and your review of the CCAMP document "Generalized Labels for G.694 Lambda-Switching Capable Label Switching Routers". Based on the suggestions provided by ITU-T Q6/15, the following modifications were made in the CCAMP document: - Reference to G.694 has been removed in title of document. - Reference to "G.694.1" or "G.694.2" was adopted to replace references to "G.694" in the draft accordingly. - The term "DWDM" was replaced by "DWDM multiplexer & demultiplexer" in Clause 3 and Figure 1. - "tables" is replaced by "grids" in Clause 4.1. - The current format of the wavelength label is the following, a new field "Identifier" is introduced. 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ |Grid | C.S | Identifier | n | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ As you noted, this is slightly different from the information ordering in G.697. For protocol encoding, we have chosen this representation. All the functionality is supported semantically. We also would like to thank ITU-T Q6/15 for the comments on the modelling of 1R, 2R and 3R regenerators in ITU-T Recommendation G.680. We would appreciate it if you would continue to inform us on the progress of ITU-T G.680. We look forward to continuing our exchange of information with you on these topics. Deborah Brungard Lou Berger CCAMP Working Group co-Chairs Attachment(s): No document has been attached From wwwrun@core3.amsl.com Wed May 26 22:34:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietf.org Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 30) id C789B3A686C; Wed, 26 May 2010 22:34:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Adrian Farrel(IETF RTG AREA) To: Greg Jones Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20100527053423.C789B3A686C@core3.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 22:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Cc: CCAMP Working Group , Yoichi Maeda , Patrik Falstrom , Adrian Farrel , Deborah Brungard Subject: [CCAMP] New Liaison Statement, "OTN and WSON work in CCAMP" X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Deborah Brungard List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 05:34:24 -0000 Title: OTN and WSON work in CCAMP Submission Date: 2010-05-26 URL of the IETF Web page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/liaison_detail.cgi?detail_id=902 From: Adrian Farrel(IETF RTG AREA) To: ITU-T SG15 Q12(Greg Jones ) Cc: Yoichi Maeda Malcolm Betts Adrian Farrel Stewart Bryant Patrik Falstrom CCAMP Working Group Reponse Contact: Deborah Brungard Lou Berger Technical Contact: Deborah Brungard Lou Berger Purpose: For information Body: Thank you for your liaison statements, "COM 15 - LS 100 - E" and "COM 15 - LS 138 - E", on your plans to update G.872 OTN architecture to reflect the G.709 updates. We would like to inform you that the CCAMP Working Group recently accepted as a Working Group draft: http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-00.txt This document will serve as our basis for further work. Please keep us informed as you progress your work. Regarding your liaison "COM 15 - LS 86 - E", "Comments on WSON Impairment Work in CCAMP", we thank you for your comments and we will take these into consideration as we progress our work. We note that you will initiate work to update the architecture and control plane Recommendations related to WSON. Please keep us informed as you progress this work. We look forward to continuing our cooperative relationship with you on these topics. Deborah Brungard Lou Berger CCAMP Working Group co-Chairs Attachment(s): No document has been attached From root@core3.amsl.com Fri May 28 07:15:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietf.org Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 700BB3A6A48; Fri, 28 May 2010 07:15:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20100528141512.700BB3A6A48@core3.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 07:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] I-D Action:draft-ietf-ccamp-dpm-00.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 14:15:38 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF. Title : Label Switched Path (LSP) Data Path Delay Metric in Generalized MPLS/ MPLS-TE Networks Author(s) : W. Sun, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-dpm-00.txt Pages : 27 Date : 2010-05-27 When setting up a label switched path (LSP) in Generalized MPLS and MPLS/TE networks, the completion of the signaling process does not necessarily mean that the cross connection along the LSP have been programmed accordingly and in a timely manner. Meanwhile, the completion of signaling process may be used by applications as indication that data path has become usable. The existence of this delay and the possible failure of cross connection programming, if not properly treated, will result in data loss or even application failure. Characterization of this performance can thus help designers to improve the application model and to build more robust applications. This document defines a series of performance metrics to evaluate the availability of data path in the signaling process. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-dpm-00.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-ccamp-dpm-00.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2010-05-28071225.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- From danli@huawei.com Mon May 31 00:28:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6ED3A6939 for ; Mon, 31 May 2010 00:28:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.186 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.186 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.884, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MANGLED_LOW=2.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8OHWrcvDH5Uc for ; Mon, 31 May 2010 00:28:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usaga03-in.huawei.com (usaga03-in.huawei.com [206.16.17.220]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E998C3A68BD for ; Mon, 31 May 2010 00:28:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (usaga03-in [172.18.4.17]) by usaga03-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0L3900MU6WRMN6@usaga03-in.huawei.com> for ccamp@ietf.org; Mon, 31 May 2010 02:28:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 4fil48369.noe.nokia.com ([156.106.216.111]) by usaga03-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0L3900F4JWRJYY@usaga03-in.huawei.com> for ccamp@ietf.org; Mon, 31 May 2010 02:28:34 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 15:28:24 +0800 From: Dan Li To: ccamp@ietf.org Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_+4pGMiIfYOCOfV05b4AaZg)" Subject: [CCAMP] LMP behavior negotiation draft -- continue work of RFC 5818 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 07:28:49 -0000 --Boundary_(ID_+4pGMiIfYOCOfV05b4AaZg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi all, In RFC 5818, which was published recently, section 5.4 "Backward Compatibility", there is a statement: "In the future, it may be the case that LMP will be extended to allow function support to be detected. In that case, it may become possible to deploy this function in a mixed environment." Draft "LMP Behavior Negotiation" (http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-li-ccamp-lmp-behavior-negotiation-01.txt ) is the continue work of RFC 5818 on this issue. This draft is quiet simple, a new type (c-type = 3) of CONFIG class is defined to do the LMP behavior negotiation work: The format of the new type of CONFIG Class is defined as follows: 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | Reserved |M|O|W|S| Reserved |D|T|F|V| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ |<----- Architecture Flags ---->|<----- Capability Flags ----->| Please read this draft and send comments to the list. Thanks, Authors --Boundary_(ID_+4pGMiIfYOCOfV05b4AaZg) Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Hi = all,

In RFC 5818, which = was published recently, section 5.4 "Backward Compatibility", there is a = statement:
"In the future, it may be the case that LMP will be extended to =
allow function support to be detected.  In that case, it may become =
possible to deploy this function in a mixed =
environment."

Draft "LMP =
Behavior Negotiation" (http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-li-ccamp-lmp-behavior-negotiation-01=
.txt) is the continue work of RFC 5818 on this =
issue.
This draft is =
quiet simple, a new type (c-type =3D 3) of CONFIG class is defined to do =
the LMP behavior negotiation work:
  The format of =
the new type of CONFIG Class is defined as follows: =20

    0                   1                   2                   3 =20
    0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 =20
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ =20
   |       Reserved        |M|O|W|S|        Reserved       |D|T|F|V| =20
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ =20
   |<----- Architecture Flags ---->|<-----  Capability Flags =
----->| 
Please read this draft and send comments to =
the list.

Thanks,

Authors

   =20