From zhang.fei3@zte.com.cn Sun Sep 1 17:27:34 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F231411E82C9 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2013 17:27:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bjPlmQIeZrSx for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2013 17:27:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zte.com.cn (mx5.zte.com.cn [63.217.80.70]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C7611E82C6 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2013 17:27:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mse02.zte.com.cn (unknown [10.30.3.21]) by Websense Email Security Gateway with ESMTPS id 6599812DF778; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 08:27:20 +0800 (CST) Received: from notes_smtp.zte.com.cn ([10.30.1.239]) by mse02.zte.com.cn with ESMTP id r820RJrd000990; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 08:27:19 +0800 (GMT-8) (envelope-from zhang.fei3@zte.com.cn) To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.4 March 27, 2005 Message-ID: From: zhang.fei3@zte.com.cn Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 08:27:19 +0800 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on notes_smtp/zte_ltd(Release 8.5.3FP1 HF212|May 23, 2012) at 2013-09-02 08:26:50, Serialize complete at 2013-09-02 08:26:50 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0002807748257BDA_=" X-MAIL: mse02.zte.com.cn r820RJrd000990 Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2013 00:27:34 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0002807748257BDA_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" Regards, Fei and Yao --=_alternative 0002807748257BDA_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"

Regards,

Fei and Yao --=_alternative 0002807748257BDA_=-- From wang.lei131@zte.com.cn Sun Sep 1 17:29:10 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587F411E82C6 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2013 17:29:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NG-AkBNRrBr7 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2013 17:29:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zte.com.cn (mx5.zte.com.cn [63.217.80.70]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6334B11E82C9 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2013 17:28:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mse02.zte.com.cn (unknown [10.30.3.21]) by Websense Email Security Gateway with ESMTPS id D63A012DF7E9; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 08:28:46 +0800 (CST) Received: from notes_smtp.zte.com.cn ([10.30.1.239]) by mse02.zte.com.cn with ESMTP id r820Sme3002195; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 08:28:48 +0800 (GMT-8) (envelope-from wang.lei131@zte.com.cn) To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-KeepSent: C7DAC0A5:3F5E7A3F-48257BDA:00028185; type=4; name=$KeepSent X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.6 March 06, 2007 Message-ID: From: wang.lei131@zte.com.cn Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 08:28:46 +0800 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on notes_smtp/zte_ltd(Release 8.5.3FP1 HF212|May 23, 2012) at 2013-09-02 08:28:19, Serialize complete at 2013-09-02 08:28:19 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0002A46848257BDA_=" X-MAIL: mse02.zte.com.cn r820Sme3002195 Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" , "draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2013 00:29:10 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0002A46848257BDA_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" BestRegards LeiWang --=_alternative 0002A46848257BDA_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"


BestRegards

LeiWang

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No, I'm not aware of any= IPR that applies to this draft.

 =

Regards,
Jianrui HAN

 = ;

 = ;

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=B7=A2=CB=CD= =CA=B1=BC=E4: 2013=C4=EA8=D4=C2<= span lang=3D"EN-US">10=C8=D5 2:11
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=B3=AD=CB=CD: ccamp@ietf.org
=D6=F7=CC=E2: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk

 

Authors, Contributors, (= CCAMP)

 =

As part of the preparati= on for WG document adoption:

 =

Are you aware of any IPR= that applies to draft identified above?

 =

  Please state eith= er:

 =

  "No, I'm not= aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"

  or

  "Yes, I'm aw= are of IPR that applies to this draft"

 =

If so, has this IPR been= disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules

(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 36= 69 and 5378 for more details)?

 =

   If yes to t= he above, please state either:

 =

  "Yes, the IP= R has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"

  or

  "No, the IPR= has not been disclosed"

 =

  If you answer no,= please provide any additional details you think

  appropriate.=

 =

If you are listed as a d= ocument author or contributor please answer the

above by responding to t= his email regardless of whether or not you are

aware of any relevant IP= R.  This document will not advance to the next

stage until a response h= as been received from each author and listed

contributor.  NOTE:= THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS

MESSAGE'S TO LINES.=

 =

If you are on the CCAMP = WG email list but are not listed as an author or

contributor, we remind y= ou of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules

which encourages you to = notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of

others on an IETF contri= bution, or to refrain from participating in any

contribution or discussi= on related to your undisclosed IPR.  For more

information, please see = the RFCs listed above and

 =

Thank you,

CCAMP WG Chairs

 =

PS Please include all li= sted in the headers of this message in your

response.

 =

 =

--_000_984B86948E312F4E90A05B59E83A740F40467F09szxeml511mbxchi_-- From zhangfatai@huawei.com Mon Sep 2 02:26:55 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C7411E81D1; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 02:26:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.966 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.966 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.633, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Lp3A4DF+dXnz; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 02:26:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A57011E8125; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 02:26:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml204-edg.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.5-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id AUY76901; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 09:26:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML401-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.240) by lhreml204-edg.china.huawei.com (172.18.7.223) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 10:26:03 +0100 Received: from SZXEMA406-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.72.38) by lhreml401-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.240) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 10:26:11 +0100 Received: from SZXEMA504-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.8.152]) by SZXEMA406-HUB.china.huawei.com ([10.82.72.38]) with mapi id 14.03.0146.000; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 17:26:03 +0800 From: Fatai Zhang To: Tomonori TAKEDA , "rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-14.txt Thread-Index: AQHOpURpDaQpK4moZEOR/PL1Q09//JmyLenw Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 09:26:01 +0000 Message-ID: References: <201308300547.r7U5l5MQ014566@imail2.m.ecl.ntt.co.jp> In-Reply-To: <201308300547.r7U5l5MQ014566@imail2.m.ecl.ntt.co.jp> Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.66.72.159] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Cc: "rtg-dir@ietf.org" , "ccamp@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework.all@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-14.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2013 09:26:55 -0000 Hi Tomonori, Thanks for your comments. I think the changes should be very minor per your comments, and I would def= er to ADs/WG chairs to decide if we need update the draft before publicatio= n.=20 See more for your points. Point 1: Yes, this is specific to OTN and please see the [OTN-OSPF] draft f= or the priority information.=20 Point 2: Yes, it refers to ODU multiplexing. The legacy OTN here includes [= RFC4328] and Pre-[RFC4328] (but there is no IETF draft for Pre-[RFC4328]), = and Pre-[RFC4328] could not support multiplexing hierarchy, so I think we c= an change the original text to "since multiplexing hierarchy may not be sup= ported by the legacy OTN ". Point 3: I think we can remove "Note that..." sentence because it is about = solution specific, which has been described in solution drafts. All nits should be accepted.=20 Best Regards Fatai -----Original Message----- From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of T= omonori TAKEDA Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 1:47 PM To: rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org; ccamp@ietf.org; draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework= .all@tools.ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-14.tx= t Hello,=20 I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. Th= e Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts= as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review. The purpose of the re= view is to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information abou= t the Routing Directorate, please see=20 http://www.ietf.org/iesg/directorate/routing.html=20 Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it wo= uld be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last Ca= ll comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion= or by updating the draft.=20 Document: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-14.txt =20 Reviewer: Tomonori Takeda Review Date: 30 August 2013=20 IETF LC End Date: 02 September 2013=20 Intended Status: Informational=20 o Summary:=20 This document describes framework for GMPLS/PCE control of OTN and impacts = on GMPLS/PCE protocols. Overview of OTN is mentioned, which is helpful to u= nderstand the document. o Comments:=20 I have some minor concerns about this document that I think should be resol= ved before publication. (I think these are mostly related to clarification questions.) o Major Issues:=20 No major issues found.=20 o Minor Issues:=20 1) In Section 5.3., it says the following requirement for GMPLS routing. - Support different priorities for resource reservation I think this is a valid requirement, but I do not think this is specific to= OTN. Does this imply the need for protocol extensions or just the usage of proto= cols? 2) Section 5.4., it says: Furthermore, since multiplexing hierarchy was not allowed=20 by the legacy OTN referenced by [RFC4328], .... By reading RFC4328 section 2, it refers to ODU multiplexing. Am I missing s= omething? 3) In Section 5.5., it says. Note that this case is supported by the procedures defined in [RFC3473] as a different Switching Capability/Type value is=20 used for the different control plane versions. I am not sure which part of RFC3473 metions such procedures. Could you plea= se point it? o Nits:=20 Section 4.1 s/Lo ODU/LO ODU/=20 Section 4.1 s/substitute/substituted Section 5.6 s/section 5.2.1/section 5.2 Thanks, Tomonori _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From daniel@olddog.co.uk Mon Sep 2 11:23:10 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56DCB21E8097 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 11:23:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.298 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.298 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.300, BAYES_50=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7ehMDIC-dBx8 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 11:23:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (asmtp1.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.248]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0497221E8092 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 11:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r82IMxX4029194; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 19:22:59 +0100 Received: from Serenity (88-97-23-122.dsl.zen.co.uk [88.97.23.122]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r82IMwPg029181 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 2 Sep 2013 19:22:58 +0100 From: "Daniel King" To: "'BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A'" , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 19:22:55 +0100 Message-ID: <022801cea809$725072d0$56f15870$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0229_01CEA811.D417E810" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 15.0 Thread-Index: AQF383DJuOr2os8rT4SGolFrdggyBAHd9FwomlE8DIA= Content-Language: en-gb Cc: draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk@tools.ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2013 18:23:10 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0229_01CEA811.D417E810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, I am also not aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk. Br, Dan. From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Zhangxian (Xian) Sent: 31 August 2013 01:40 To: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A; draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk@tools.ietf.org Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Regards, Xian From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A Sent: 2013$BG/(B8$B7n(B10$BF|(B 2:11 To: draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk@tools.ietf.org Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) As part of the preparation for WG document adoption: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? 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Hi All,

 

I am also not aware of any IPR that = applies to draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk.

 

Br, Dan.

 

From: = ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of = Zhangxian (Xian)
Sent: 31 August 2013 01:40
To: = BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A; = draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk@tools.ietf.org
Cc: = ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on = draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk

 

No, I'm = not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

 =

Regards,Xian

 

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------=_NextPart_000_0229_01CEA811.D417E810-- From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Tue Sep 3 06:57:45 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD47311E80EE; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 06:57:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.499 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.499 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.101, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MbxIyx6MqERD; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 06:57:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E8121F9323; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 06:57:43 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.70.p1 Sender: Message-ID: <20130903135743.32165.72718.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 06:57:43 -0700 Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] Last Call: (Revised Definition of The GMPLS Switching Capability and Type Fields) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 13:57:45 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the Common Control and Measurement Plane WG (ccamp) to consider the following document: - 'Revised Definition of The GMPLS Switching Capability and Type Fields' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2013-09-17. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract GMPLS provides control for multiple switching technologies, and hierarchical switching within a technology. GMPLS routing and signaling use common values to indicate switching technology type. These values are carried in routing in the Switching Capability field, and in signaling in the Switching Type field. While the values used in these fields are the primary indicators of the technology and hierarchy level being controlled, the values are not consistently defined and used across the different technologies supported by GMPLS. This document is intended to resolve the inconsistent definition and use of the Switching Capability and Type fields by narrowly scoping the meaning and use of the fields. This document updates any document that uses the GMPLS Switching Capability and Types fields, in particular RFC 3471, RFC 4202, RFC 4203, and RFC 5307. The file can be obtained via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-swcaps-update/ IESG discussion can be tracked via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-swcaps-update/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. From sergio.belotti@alcatel-lucent.com Tue Sep 3 07:21:41 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 722C021F9AE3 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 07:21:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vU0FXV6-F9uK for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 07:21:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ihemail2.lucent.com (ihemail2.lucent.com [135.245.0.35]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA2B21F9AE2 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 07:21:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fr712usmtp2.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (h135-239-2-42.lucent.com [135.239.2.42]) by ihemail2.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id r83ELV21022543 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 3 Sep 2013 09:21:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from FR712WXCHHUB03.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (fr712wxchhub03.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com [135.239.2.74]) by fr712usmtp2.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (GMO) with ESMTP id r83ELUxc020741 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Tue, 3 Sep 2013 16:21:30 +0200 Received: from FR711WXCHMBA05.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com ([169.254.1.215]) by FR712WXCHHUB03.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.239.2.74]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 16:21:30 +0200 From: "BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO)" To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" , "draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk@tools.ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Regarding IPR on draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk Thread-Index: Ac6VK7+mWUvlMi3uQtWQFQbgJh00TQThO9NQ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 14:21:29 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: it-IT, en-US Content-Language: it-IT X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.239.27.39] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_B9FEE68CE3A78C41A2B3C67549A96F482462E7DBFR711WXCHMBA05z_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.35 Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" Subject: [CCAMP] R: Regarding IPR on draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 14:21:41 -0000 --_000_B9FEE68CE3A78C41A2B3C67549A96F482462E7DBFR711WXCHMBA05z_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Deborah, No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft BR sergio Da: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] Per conto di BRU= NGARD, DEBORAH A Inviato: venerd=EC 9 agosto 2013 20:11 A: draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk@tools.ietf.org Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Oggetto: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) As part of the preparation for WG document adoption: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. 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Hi Deborah,

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No, I'm not aware of any = IPR that applies to this draft

 <= /p>

BR

sergio<= /p>

 = ;

Da: ccamp-= bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] Per conto di BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A
Inviato: venerd=EC 9 agosto 2013 20:11
A: draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk@tools.ietf.org
Cc: ccamp@ietf.org
Oggetto: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fw= k

 

Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP)

 

As part of the preparation for WG docum= ent adoption:

 

Are you aware of any IPR that applies t= o draft identified above?

 

  Please state either:<= /span>

 

  "No, I'm not aware of any I= PR that applies to this draft"

  or

  "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that= applies to this draft"

 

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in c= ompliance with IETF IPR rules

(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for= more details)?

 

   If yes to the above, pleas= e state either:

 

  "Yes, the IPR has been disc= losed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"

  or

  "No, the IPR has not been d= isclosed"

 

  If you answer no, please provide= any additional details you think

  appropriate.

 

If you are listed as a document author = or contributor please answer the

above by responding to this email regar= dless of whether or not you are

aware of any relevant IPR.  This d= ocument will not advance to the next

stage until a response has been receive= d from each author and listed

contributor.  NOTE: THIS APPLIES T= O ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS

MESSAGE'S TO LINES.

 

If you are on the CCAMP WG email list b= ut are not listed as an author or

contributor, we remind you of your obli= gations under the IETF IPR rules

which encourages you to notify the IETF= if you are aware of IPR of

others on an IETF contribution, or to r= efrain from participating in any

contribution or discussion related to y= our undisclosed IPR.  For more

information, please see the RFCs listed= above and

 

Thank you,

CCAMP WG Chairs

 

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--_000_B9FEE68CE3A78C41A2B3C67549A96F482462E7DBFR711WXCHMBA05z_-- From ssyed@infinera.com Tue Sep 3 08:25:33 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D725421E815D for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 08:25:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LgOcec2NKj8a for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 08:25:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sv-casht-prod2.infinera.com (sv-casht-prod2.infinera.com [8.4.225.25]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B7D521E811E for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 08:25:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SV-EXDB-PROD2.infinera.com ([fe80::1d05:1822:aaea:ff52]) by sv-casht-prod2.infinera.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Tue, 3 Sep 2013 08:25:26 -0700 From: Sharfuddin Syed To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" , "draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk@tools.ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk Thread-Index: AQHOpeLJquYGBg0Av02Am2/fF9N1ZZm0J0lQ Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 15:25:25 +0000 Message-ID: <86C53C8D558F6C489B7BB9A544B852D50B7545BE@SV-EXDB-PROD2.infinera.com> References: <589607FC5DA65940AE5E96188CFA01B30B849C02@SV-EXDB-PROD2.infinera.com> In-Reply-To: <589607FC5DA65940AE5E96188CFA01B30B849C02@SV-EXDB-PROD2.infinera.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.100.96.93] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_86C53C8D558F6C489B7BB9A544B852D50B7545BESVEXDBPROD2infi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 15:25:33 -0000 --_000_86C53C8D558F6C489B7BB9A544B852D50B7545BESVEXDBPROD2infi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Thanks, Sharfuddin From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-b= ounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 11:11 AM To: draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk@tools.ietf.org Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) As part of the preparation for WG document adoption: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. Thank you, CCAMP WG Chairs PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your response. --_000_86C53C8D558F6C489B7BB9A544B852D50B7545BESVEXDBPROD2infi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Subject: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fw= k

 

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--_000_86C53C8D558F6C489B7BB9A544B852D50B7545BESVEXDBPROD2infi_-- From leeyoung@huawei.com Wed Sep 4 09:27:49 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B512321F9A17; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 09:27:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SRm3558UTBkV; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 09:27:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5EEE21F99F3; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 09:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml204-edg.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.5-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id AVB05601; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 16:27:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML402-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.241) by lhreml204-edg.china.huawei.com (172.18.7.223) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 17:27:25 +0100 Received: from DFWEML405-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.193.5.102) by lhreml402-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.241) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 17:27:39 +0100 Received: from dfweml511-mbs.china.huawei.com ([169.254.15.204]) by dfweml405-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.193.5.102]) with mapi id 14.03.0146.000; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 09:27:13 -0700 From: Leeyoung To: "rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org" Thread-Topic: RtgDir review: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3-11.txt Thread-Index: Ac6pi5m1FJsl/u7ZR96gB1yUrsn1pg== Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 16:27:11 +0000 Message-ID: <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E17291BA6E8@dfweml511-mbs.china.huawei.com> Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.47.174.74] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E17291BA6E8dfweml511mbschi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Cc: "rtg-dir@ietf.org" , "ccamp@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3.all@tools.ietf.org" Subject: [CCAMP] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3-11.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2013 16:27:49 -0000 --_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E17291BA6E8dfweml511mbschi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. Th= e Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts= as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review. The purpose of the re= view is to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information abou= t the Routing Directorate, please see http://www.ietf.org/iesg/directorate/= routing.html Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it wo= uld be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last Ca= ll comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion= or by updating the draft. Document: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3-11.txt Reviewer: Young Lee Review Date: 4 September 2013 IETF LC End Date: Intended Status: Standard Track Summary: This document is basically ready for publication, but has some minor issues= and nits that should be considered prior to publication. Comments: This document is clearly written and easy to understand, but there are a fe= w places that can be improved. The document title refers this extension as = GMPLS Signaling Extensions for "the evolving G.709 OTN control" which may b= e referred to as "G709v3" in the document to be aligned with the draft name= (draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-singaling-g709v3). Major Issues: No major issues found. Minor Issues: Section 3: When referring that VCAT of OPU0/OPU2e/OPU4/OPUflex is not suppo= rted by [G709-2012], please add some comment for the readers if this docume= nt or other document deals with such extension or that work remains to be w= orked out in the future. It was not clear why you mentioned of this VCAT is= sue. Section 4: The clause "via 1.25G TS granularity, 2.5G TS granularity or any= one of them (i.e., TS granularity Auto-Negotiation is enabled)" is a bit c= onfusing. Section 5: The first paragraph can be clearer by associating the objects me= ntioned with the Path or Resv Message. Please consider to change to: "The t= raffic Parameters for OTN-TDM capable Switching Type are carried in the OTN= -TDM Sender_TSPEC object in the Path Message and the OTN-FLOWSPEC object in= the Resv Message." Section 6.2: "In such case" is not clear. Is that meant: "When the TPN was = not assigned by the ingress node"? Section 8, the fourth bullet mentioned of "Ingress" nodes may select the pr= ocedure either from RFC4328 or this document. How about the egress nodes? I= s it assumed to follow what the ingress has chosen? (Just a clarification q= uestion) Nits: Section 3, when the term "Tributary Slot" is first used (i.e,. A new Tribut= ary Slot granularity (i.e., 1.25Gbps) is also described...), please add the= abbreviation. Section 3 s/legacy interfaces/the legacy interfaces/ Section 4 s/[RFC4328] extends/[RFC4328] extended/ Section 5: Spell NVC. Section 5.2: For Table 2, align the column dividers Section 5.2 s/MUST equal to/MUST equal/ or /MUST be equal to/ Section 6.2: delete "out" before "outgoing" in the first sentence of the th= ird paragraph. Section 6.2: s/accordingly to/according to/ (6th paragraph) Thanks. Young --_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E17291BA6E8dfweml511mbschi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello,

I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft.= The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related dra= fts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review. The purpose of the= review is to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing Directorate, pl= ease see http://www.ietf.org/iesg/directorate/routing.html

Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it= would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last= Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discuss= ion or by updating the draft.

Document: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3-11.txt
Reviewer: Young Lee
Review Date: 4 September 2013
IETF LC End Date: 
Intended Status: Standard Track

Summary:
This document is basically ready for publicatio= n, but has some minor issues and nits that should be considered prior to pu= blication.

Comments:
This document is clearly written and easy to understand, but there are a fe= w places that can be improved. The document title refers this extension as = GMPLS Signaling Extensions for “the evolving G.709 OTN control”= which may be referred to as “G709v3” in the document to be aligned with the draft name (draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-singali= ng-g709v3).

Major Issues:
No major issues found.

Minor Issues:
Section 3: When referring that VCAT of OPU0/OPU2e/OPU4/OPUflex is not suppo= rted by [G709-2012], please add some comment for the readers if this docume= nt or other document deals with such extension or that work remains to be w= orked out in the future. It was not clear why you mentioned of this VCAT issue.

Section 4: The clause “via 1.25G TS granularity, 2.5G TS granulari= ty or any one of them (i.e., TS granularity Auto-Negotiation is enabled)= 221; is a bit confusing.

Section 5: The first paragraph can be clearer by associating the objects= mentioned with the Path or Resv Message. Please consider to change to: = 220;The traffic Parameters for OTN-TDM capable Switching Type are carried i= n the OTN-TDM Sender_TSPEC object in the Path Message and the OTN-FLOWSPEC object in the Resv Message.” =

Section 6.2: “In such case” is not clear. Is that meant: = 220;When the TPN was not assigned by the ingress node”?

Section 8, the fourth bullet mentioned of “Ingress” nodes ma= y select the procedure either from RFC4328 or this document. How about the = egress nodes? Is it assumed to follow what the ingress has chosen? (Just a = clarification question)

Nits:

Section 3, when the term “Tributary Slot” is first used (i.e= ,. A new Tributary Slot granularity (i.e., 1.25Gbps) is also described̷= 0;), please add the abbreviation.

Section 3
s/legacy interfaces/the legacy interfaces/

Section 4

s/[RFC4328] extends/[RFC4328]= extended/

Section 5: Spell NVC.

Section 5.2: For Table 2, align the column dividers

Section 5.2

s/MUST equal to/MUST equal/ o= r /MUST be equal to/

Section 6.2: delete “out” before “outgoing” in t= he first sentence of the third paragraph.

Section 6.2: s/accordingly to/according to/ (6th paragraph)

Thanks.

Young

 

--_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E17291BA6E8dfweml511mbschi_-- From adrian@olddog.co.uk Wed Sep 4 17:48:14 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834E611E8150; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 17:48:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DVXLHk2eVyLl; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 17:48:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (asmtp2.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.249]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2E521F92E7; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 17:47:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r850lfx0011934; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 01:47:41 +0100 Received: from 950129200 (98-28-103-175.static.broadbandsolutions.com.au [175.103.28.98] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r850lZFj011909 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 5 Sep 2013 01:47:38 +0100 From: "Adrian Farrel" To: "'Fatai Zhang'" , "'Tomonori TAKEDA'" , References: <201308300547.r7U5l5MQ014566@imail2.m.ecl.ntt.co.jp> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 01:47:36 +0100 Message-ID: <056801cea9d1$8750edd0$95f2c970$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQJJVOU0nh0b9AhunXzrR9nq53jiIgKqENLkmKuoRyA= Content-Language: en-gb Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org, ccamp@ietf.org, draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework.all@tools.ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-14.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: adrian@olddog.co.uk List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 00:48:14 -0000 Thanks Fatai and Tomonori. I have entered Tomonori's review into my comment in the IESG evaluation. We will pick them up after the rest of the IESG has done their review. Cheers, Adrian > -----Original Message----- > From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Fatai Zhang > Sent: 02 September 2013 10:26 > To: Tomonori TAKEDA; rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org > Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org; ccamp@ietf.org; draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709- > framework.all@tools.ietf.org > Subject: Re: [CCAMP] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework- > 14.txt > > Hi Tomonori, > > Thanks for your comments. > > I think the changes should be very minor per your comments, and I would defer > to ADs/WG chairs to decide if we need update the draft before publication. > > See more for your points. > > Point 1: Yes, this is specific to OTN and please see the [OTN-OSPF] draft for the > priority information. > > Point 2: Yes, it refers to ODU multiplexing. The legacy OTN here includes > [RFC4328] and Pre-[RFC4328] (but there is no IETF draft for Pre-[RFC4328]), and > Pre-[RFC4328] could not support multiplexing hierarchy, so I think we can change > the original text to "since multiplexing hierarchy may not be supported by the > legacy OTN ". > > Point 3: I think we can remove "Note that..." sentence because it is about > solution specific, which has been described in solution drafts. > > All nits should be accepted. > > > Best Regards > > Fatai > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Tomonori TAKEDA > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 1:47 PM > To: rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org > Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org; ccamp@ietf.org; draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709- > framework.all@tools.ietf.org > Subject: [CCAMP] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-14.txt > > Hello, > > I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. The > Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts as they > pass through IETF last call and IESG review. The purpose of the review is to > provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing > Directorate, please see > http://www.ietf.org/iesg/directorate/routing.html > > Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it would > be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last Call > comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion or by > updating the draft. > > Document: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-14.txt > Reviewer: Tomonori Takeda > Review Date: 30 August 2013 > IETF LC End Date: 02 September 2013 > Intended Status: Informational > > o Summary: > This document describes framework for GMPLS/PCE control of OTN and impacts > on GMPLS/PCE protocols. Overview of OTN is mentioned, which is helpful to > understand the document. > > o Comments: > I have some minor concerns about this document that I think should be resolved > before publication. > (I think these are mostly related to clarification questions.) > > o Major Issues: > No major issues found. > > o Minor Issues: > > 1) In Section 5.3., it says the following requirement for GMPLS routing. > - Support different priorities for resource reservation > > I think this is a valid requirement, but I do not think this is specific to OTN. > Does this imply the need for protocol extensions or just the usage of protocols? > > 2) Section 5.4., it says: > > Furthermore, since multiplexing hierarchy was not allowed > by the legacy OTN referenced by [RFC4328], .... > > By reading RFC4328 section 2, it refers to ODU multiplexing. Am I missing > something? > > 3) In Section 5.5., it says. > > Note that this case is supported by the procedures defined in > [RFC3473] as a different Switching Capability/Type value is > used for the different control plane versions. > > I am not sure which part of RFC3473 metions such procedures. Could you please > point it? > > o Nits: > Section 4.1 > s/Lo ODU/LO ODU/ > > Section 4.1 > s/substitute/substituted > > Section 5.6 > s/section 5.2.1/section 5.2 > > > Thanks, > Tomonori > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From adrian@olddog.co.uk Wed Sep 4 18:35:21 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0AFB11E815C for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 18:35:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PRJEpq9FG-nq for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 18:35:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (asmtp4.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.175]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C396011E8153 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 18:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r851YwBT002362; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 02:34:58 +0100 Received: from asmtp5.iomartmail.com (asmtp5.iomartmail.com [10.12.10.176]) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r851Yv7Q002357 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 5 Sep 2013 02:34:57 +0100 Received: from asmtp5.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp5.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r851Yv7a011515; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 02:34:57 +0100 Received: from 950129200 (98-28-103-175.static.broadbandsolutions.com.au [175.103.28.98] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp5.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r851YpAJ011494 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 5 Sep 2013 02:34:55 +0100 From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 02:34:53 +0100 Message-ID: <057e01cea9d8$219e84f0$64db8ed0$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac6p2BBq/LZmNaHJQzaGH5jH4uBc1g== Content-Language: en-gb Cc: ccamp@ietf.org, "'Vijay K. Gurbani'" Subject: [CCAMP] Next step for draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: adrian@olddog.co.uk List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 01:35:21 -0000 Hi authors, Could you please produce a new revision to address the minor issues raised by Young Lee during their Directorate reviews. Thanks, Adrian From zhangfatai@huawei.com Wed Sep 4 20:41:51 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA88D21E8094 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 20:41:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.124 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.124 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.475, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EHLVv5dp-WHK for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 20:41:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9795511E8238 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 20:41:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml203-edg.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.5-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id AVB36122; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 03:41:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML403-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.217) by lhreml203-edg.huawei.com (172.18.7.221) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 04:41:19 +0100 Received: from SZXEMA402-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.72.34) by lhreml403-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.217) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 04:41:36 +0100 Received: from SZXEMA504-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.8.152]) by SZXEMA402-HUB.china.huawei.com ([10.82.72.34]) with mapi id 14.03.0146.000; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 11:41:23 +0800 From: Fatai Zhang To: "adrian@olddog.co.uk" , "draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3.all@tools.ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Next step for draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 Thread-Index: Ac6p2BBq/LZmNaHJQzaGH5jH4uBc1gAEWh9A Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 03:41:22 +0000 Message-ID: References: <057e01cea9d8$219e84f0$64db8ed0$@olddog.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <057e01cea9d8$219e84f0$64db8ed0$@olddog.co.uk> Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.66.72.159] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" , "'Vijay K. Gurbani'" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Next step for draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 03:41:51 -0000 Hi Adrian, I can do that quickly, but I am not sure if there are some comments will co= me out later soon.=20 I mean it is better to provide a revision to address all the comments from = the IESG review (Directorate reviews).=20 Best Regards Fatai -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk]=20 Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 9:35 AM To: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3.all@tools.ietf.org Cc: ccamp@ietf.org; 'Vijay K. Gurbani'; Leeyoung Subject: Next step for draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 Hi authors, Could you please produce a new revision to address the minor issues raised = by Young Lee during their Directorate reviews. Thanks, Adrian From zhangfatai@huawei.com Thu Sep 5 01:03:25 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D934811E80E2; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 01:03:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.219 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.219 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.379, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rsx6i-XcF19q; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 01:03:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF4011E80DC; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 01:03:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml204-edg.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.5-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id AVB55913; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 08:03:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML401-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.240) by lhreml204-edg.china.huawei.com (172.18.7.223) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 09:02:47 +0100 Received: from SZXEMA408-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.72.40) by lhreml401-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.240) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 09:02:53 +0100 Received: from SZXEMA504-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.8.152]) by SZXEMA408-HUB.china.huawei.com ([10.82.72.40]) with mapi id 14.03.0146.000; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 16:02:41 +0800 From: Fatai Zhang To: Leeyoung , "rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3-11.txt Thread-Index: AQHOqg5K2IUjQYV0ckGMj1OW7u5h2w== Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 08:02:40 +0000 Message-ID: References: <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E17291BA6E8@dfweml511-mbs.china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E17291BA6E8@dfweml511-mbs.china.huawei.com> Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.66.72.159] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_F82A4B6D50F9464B8EBA55651F541CF85CA61930SZXEMA504MBSchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Cc: "rtg-dir@ietf.org" , "ccamp@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3.all@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3-11.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 08:03:26 -0000 --_000_F82A4B6D50F9464B8EBA55651F541CF85CA61930SZXEMA504MBSchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Young and all, Thanks for your comments. All Nits should be accepted. Please see more in-line to check if you are happy with the proposed updates= and the clarification. Best Regards Fatai From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of L= eeyoung Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 12:27 AM To: rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org; ccamp@ietf.org; draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709= v3.all@tools.ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3-11.= txt Hello, I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. Th= e Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts= as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review. The purpose of the re= view is to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information abou= t the Routing Directorate, please see http://www.ietf.org/iesg/directorate/= routing.html Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it wo= uld be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last Ca= ll comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion= or by updating the draft. Document: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3-11.txt Reviewer: Young Lee Review Date: 4 September 2013 IETF LC End Date: Intended Status: Standard Track Summary: This document is basically ready for publication, but has some minor issues= and nits that should be considered prior to publication. Comments: This document is clearly written and easy to understand, but there are a fe= w places that can be improved. The document title refers this extension as = GMPLS Signaling Extensions for "the evolving G.709 OTN control" which may b= e referred to as "G709v3" in the document to be aligned with the draft name= (draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-singaling-g709v3). Major Issues: No major issues found. Minor Issues: Section 3: When referring that VCAT of OPU0/OPU2e/OPU4/OPUflex is not suppo= rted by [G709-2012], please add some comment for the readers if this docume= nt or other document deals with such extension or that work remains to be w= orked out in the future. It was not clear why you mentioned of this VCAT is= sue. [Fatai] Your comment has been addressed in Section 6.3 in detail way. Section 4: The clause "via 1.25G TS granularity, 2.5G TS granularity or any= one of them (i.e., TS granularity Auto-Negotiation is enabled)" is a bit c= onfusing. [Fatai]Agree. I think we can use "ODU-any defined below" to replace "any o= ne of them (i.e., TS granularity Auto-Negotiation is enabled)". Section 5: The first paragraph can be clearer by associating the objects me= ntioned with the Path or Resv Message. Please consider to change to: "The t= raffic Parameters for OTN-TDM capable Switching Type are carried in the OTN= -TDM Sender_TSPEC object in the Path Message and the OTN-FLOWSPEC object in= the Resv Message." [Fatai]Agree and accept. Section 6.2: "In such case" is not clear. Is that meant: "When the TPN was = not assigned by the ingress node"? [Fatai] No, but your comment makes sense. I think we can use "When the TPN = is assigned by the ingress node" to replace "In this case". Section 8, the fourth bullet mentioned of "Ingress" nodes may select the pr= ocedure either from RFC4328 or this document. How about the egress nodes? I= s it assumed to follow what the ingress has chosen? (Just a clarification q= uestion) [Fatai] There is nothing with egress nodes. There is this bullet because th= e ingress nodes have chance to select the procedure (either from RFC4328 or= this document). Nits: Section 3, when the term "Tributary Slot" is first used (i.e,. A new Tribut= ary Slot granularity (i.e., 1.25Gbps) is also described...), please add the= abbreviation. Section 3 s/legacy interfaces/the legacy interfaces/ Section 4 s/[RFC4328] extends/[RFC4328] extended/ Section 5: Spell NVC. Section 5.2: For Table 2, align the column dividers Section 5.2 s/MUST equal to/MUST equal/ or /MUST be equal to/ Section 6.2: delete "out" before "outgoing" in the first sentence of the th= ird paragraph. Section 6.2: s/accordingly to/according to/ (6th paragraph) Thanks. Young --_000_F82A4B6D50F9464B8EBA55651F541CF85CA61930SZXEMA504MBSchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Young and all,

 

Thanks for your comments.

 

All Nits should be accepted.  

 

Please see more in-line to check if you are happy with the propos= ed updates and the clarification.

 

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Best Re= gards

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Fatai

 

From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org= ] On Behalf Of Leeyoung
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 12:27 AM
To: rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org
Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org; ccamp@ietf.org; draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signali= ng-g709v3.all@tools.ietf.org
Subject: [CCAMP] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g70= 9v3-11.txt

 

Hello,

I have been selected as the Routing Directorate rev= iewer for this draft. The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing o= r routing-related drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG revie= w. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the Rout= ing Directorate, please see http://www.ietf.org/iesg/directorate/routing.ht= ml

Although these comments are primarily for the use o= f the Routing ADs, it would be helpful if you could consider them along wit= h any other IETF Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve= them through discussion or by updating the draft.

Document: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3-1= 1.txt
Reviewer: Young Lee
Review Date: 4 September 2013
IETF LC End Date: 
Intended Status: Standard Track

Summary:
This document is basically ready for publicatio= n, but has some minor issues and nits that should be considered prior to pu= blication.

Comments:
This document is clearly written and easy to understand, but there are a fe= w places that can be improved. The document title refers this extension as = GMPLS Signaling Extensions for “the evolving G.709 OTN control”= which may be referred to as “G709v3” in the document to be aligned with the draft name (draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-singali= ng-g709v3).

Major Issues:
No major issues found.

Minor Issues:
Section 3: When referring that VCAT of OPU0/OPU2e/OPU4/OPUflex is not suppo= rted by [G709-2012], please add some comment for the readers if this docume= nt or other document deals with such extension or that work remains to be w= orked out in the future. It was not clear why you mentioned of this VCAT issue.

[Fatai] Your comment has been = addressed in Section 6.3 in detail way.

Section 4: The clause “via 1.25G TS granulari= ty, 2.5G TS granularity or any one of them (i.e., TS granularity Auto-Negot= iation is enabled)” is a bit confusing.

[Fatai]Agree.  I think we= can use “ODU-any defined below” to replace “any one of t= hem (i.e., TS granularity Auto-Negotiation is enabled)”.

Section 5: The first paragraph can be clearer by as= sociating the objects mentioned with the Path or Resv Message. Please consi= der to change to: “The traffic Parameters for OTN-TDM capable Switchi= ng Type are carried in the OTN-TDM Sender_TSPEC object in the Path Message and the OTN-FLOWSPEC object in the Resv Message= .”

[Fatai]Agree and accept.<= /o:p>

Section 6.2: “In such case” is not clea= r. Is that meant: “When the TPN was not assigned by the ingress node&= #8221;?

[Fatai] No, but your comment m= akes sense. I think we can use “When the TPN is assigned by the ingre= ss node” to replace “In this case”.

Section 8, the fourth bullet mentioned of “In= gress” nodes may select the procedure either from RFC4328 or this doc= ument. How about the egress nodes? Is it assumed to follow what the ingress= has chosen? (Just a clarification question)

[Fatai] There is nothing with = egress nodes. There is this bullet because the ingress nodes have chance to= select the procedure (either from RFC4328 or this document).

Nits: =

Section 3, when the term “Tributary Slot̶= 1; is first used (i.e,. A new Tributary Slot granularity (i.e., 1.25Gbps) i= s also described…), please add the abbreviation.

Section 3
s/legacy interfaces/the legacy interfaces/

Section = 4

s/[RFC43= 28] extends/[RFC4328] extended/

Section 5: Spell NVC.

Section 5.2: For Table 2, align the column dividers=

Section = 5.2

s/MUST e= qual to/MUST equal/ or /MUST be equal to/

Section 6.2: delete “out” before “= ;outgoing” in the first sentence of the third paragraph.

Section 6.2: s/accordingly to/according to/ (6= th paragraph)

Thanks.

Young

 

--_000_F82A4B6D50F9464B8EBA55651F541CF85CA61930SZXEMA504MBSchi_-- From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Thu Sep 5 06:20:35 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE6721E80C7; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 06:20:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.525 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.525 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.075, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id n1qhB+nEJqhY; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 06:20:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB9B621E80BD; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 06:20:33 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.70.p1 Sender: Message-ID: <20130905132033.2411.42701.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 06:20:33 -0700 Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] Last Call: (Evaluation of existing GMPLS encoding against G.709v3 Optical Transport Networks (OTN)) to Informational RFC X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 13:20:36 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the Common Control and Measurement Plane WG (ccamp) to consider the following document: - 'Evaluation of existing GMPLS encoding against G.709v3 Optical Transport Networks (OTN)' as Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2013-09-19. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract ITU-T recommendation G.709 [G.709-2012] has introduced new fixed and flexible Optical Data Unit (ODU) containers in Optical Transport Networks (OTNs). This document provides an evaluation of existing Generalized Multiprotocol Label Switching (GMPLS) routing and signaling protocols against the G.709 [G.709-2012] OTN networks. The file can be obtained via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model/ IESG discussion can be tracked via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. From leeyoung@huawei.com Thu Sep 5 08:16:24 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F212A21E80D6; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 08:16:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G7JEpZyx4VoP; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 08:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82C8721E80C3; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 08:16:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml203-edg.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.5-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id AVB95251; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 15:16:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML401-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.240) by lhreml203-edg.huawei.com (172.18.7.221) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 16:15:24 +0100 Received: from DFWEML405-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.193.5.102) by lhreml401-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.240) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 16:15:42 +0100 Received: from dfweml511-mbs.china.huawei.com ([169.254.15.204]) by dfweml405-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.193.5.102]) with mapi id 14.03.0146.000; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 08:15:34 -0700 From: Leeyoung To: Fatai Zhang , "rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3-11.txt Thread-Index: AQHOqg5TB/BSDVgzBUiD4+42YtKDgZm3QSpA Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 15:15:33 +0000 Message-ID: <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E17291BAA4A@dfweml511-mbs.china.huawei.com> References: <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E17291BA6E8@dfweml511-mbs.china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.47.158.173] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E17291BAA4Adfweml511mbschi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Cc: "rtg-dir@ietf.org" , "ccamp@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3.all@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3-11.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 15:16:24 -0000 --_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E17291BAA4Adfweml511mbschi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Fatai, Thanks for your quick resolution. I have no further issue pending after you= r proposed changes. Regards, Young From: Fatai Zhang Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 3:03 AM To: Leeyoung; rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org; ccamp@ietf.org; draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709= v3.all@tools.ietf.org Subject: RE: [CCAMP] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3= -11.txt Hi Young and all, Thanks for your comments. All Nits should be accepted. Please see more in-line to check if you are happy with the proposed updates= and the clarification. Best Regards Fatai From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-b= ounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Leeyoung Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 12:27 AM To: rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org; ccamp@ietf.org; draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3.all@tools.ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3-11.= txt Hello, I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. Th= e Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts= as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review. The purpose of the re= view is to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information abou= t the Routing Directorate, please see http://www.ietf.org/iesg/directorate/= routing.html Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it wo= uld be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last Ca= ll comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion= or by updating the draft. Document: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3-11.txt Reviewer: Young Lee Review Date: 4 September 2013 IETF LC End Date: Intended Status: Standard Track Summary: This document is basically ready for publication, but has some minor issues= and nits that should be considered prior to publication. Comments: This document is clearly written and easy to understand, but there are a fe= w places that can be improved. The document title refers this extension as = GMPLS Signaling Extensions for "the evolving G.709 OTN control" which may b= e referred to as "G709v3" in the document to be aligned with the draft name= (draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-singaling-g709v3). Major Issues: No major issues found. Minor Issues: Section 3: When referring that VCAT of OPU0/OPU2e/OPU4/OPUflex is not suppo= rted by [G709-2012], please add some comment for the readers if this docume= nt or other document deals with such extension or that work remains to be w= orked out in the future. It was not clear why you mentioned of this VCAT is= sue. [Fatai] Your comment has been addressed in Section 6.3 in detail way. Section 4: The clause "via 1.25G TS granularity, 2.5G TS granularity or any= one of them (i.e., TS granularity Auto-Negotiation is enabled)" is a bit c= onfusing. [Fatai]Agree. I think we can use "ODU-any defined below" to replace "any o= ne of them (i.e., TS granularity Auto-Negotiation is enabled)". Section 5: The first paragraph can be clearer by associating the objects me= ntioned with the Path or Resv Message. Please consider to change to: "The t= raffic Parameters for OTN-TDM capable Switching Type are carried in the OTN= -TDM Sender_TSPEC object in the Path Message and the OTN-FLOWSPEC object in= the Resv Message." [Fatai]Agree and accept. Section 6.2: "In such case" is not clear. Is that meant: "When the TPN was = not assigned by the ingress node"? [Fatai] No, but your comment makes sense. I think we can use "When the TPN = is assigned by the ingress node" to replace "In this case". Section 8, the fourth bullet mentioned of "Ingress" nodes may select the pr= ocedure either from RFC4328 or this document. How about the egress nodes? I= s it assumed to follow what the ingress has chosen? (Just a clarification q= uestion) [Fatai] There is nothing with egress nodes. There is this bullet because th= e ingress nodes have chance to select the procedure (either from RFC4328 or= this document). Nits: Section 3, when the term "Tributary Slot" is first used (i.e,. A new Tribut= ary Slot granularity (i.e., 1.25Gbps) is also described...), please add the= abbreviation. Section 3 s/legacy interfaces/the legacy interfaces/ Section 4 s/[RFC4328] extends/[RFC4328] extended/ Section 5: Spell NVC. Section 5.2: For Table 2, align the column dividers Section 5.2 s/MUST equal to/MUST equal/ or /MUST be equal to/ Section 6.2: delete "out" before "outgoing" in the first sentence of the th= ird paragraph. Section 6.2: s/accordingly to/according to/ (6th paragraph) Thanks. Young --_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E17291BAA4Adfweml511mbschi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Fatai,

 

Thanks for your quick = resolution. I have no further issue pending after your proposed changes.

 

Regards,

Young

 

From: Fatai Zh= ang
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 3:03 AM
To: Leeyoung; rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org
Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org; ccamp@ietf.org; draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signali= ng-g709v3.all@tools.ietf.org
Subject: RE: [CCAMP] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling= -g709v3-11.txt

 

Hi Yo= ung and all,

=  

Thank= s for your comments.

=  

All N= its should be accepted.  

=  

Pleas= e see more in-line to check if you are happy with the proposed updates and = the clarification.

=  

 

 

 

 

Best Regards

 

Fatai

=  

From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Leeyoung
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 12:27 AM
To: rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org=
Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org; ccamp@ietf.org; draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3.all@tools.ietf.org
Subject: [CCAMP] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g70= 9v3-11.txt

 

Hello,

I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft.= The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related dra= fts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review. The purpose of the= review is to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing Directorate, pl= ease see http://www.ie= tf.org/iesg/directorate/routing.html

Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it= would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last= Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discuss= ion or by updating the draft.

Document: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3-11.txt
Reviewer: Young Lee
Review Date: 4 September 2013
IETF LC End Date: 
Intended Status: Standard Track

Summary:
This document is basically ready for publicatio= n, but has some minor issues and nits that should be considered prior to pu= blication.

Comments:
This document is clearly written and easy to understand, but there are a fe= w places that can be improved. The document title refers this extension as = GMPLS Signaling Extensions for “the evolving G.709 OTN control”= which may be referred to as “G709v3” in the document to be aligned with the draft name (draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-singali= ng-g709v3).

Major Issues:
No major issues found.

Minor Issues:
Section 3: When referring that VCAT of OPU0/OPU2e/OPU4/OPUflex is not suppo= rted by [G709-2012], please add some comment for the readers if this docume= nt or other document deals with such extension or that work remains to be w= orked out in the future. It was not clear why you mentioned of this VCAT issue.

[Fatai] Your comment has been addressed in Se= ction 6.3 in detail way.

Section 4: The clause “via 1.25G TS granularity, 2.5G TS granulari= ty or any one of them (i.e., TS granularity Auto-Negotiation is enabled)= 221; is a bit confusing.

[Fatai]Agree.  I think we can use “= ;ODU-any defined below” to replace “any one of them (i.e., TS g= ranularity Auto-Negotiation is enabled)”.

Section 5: The first paragraph can be clearer by associating the objects= mentioned with the Path or Resv Message. Please consider to change to: = 220;The traffic Parameters for OTN-TDM capable Switching Type are carried i= n the OTN-TDM Sender_TSPEC object in the Path Message and the OTN-FLOWSPEC object in the Resv Message.” =

[Fatai]Agree and accept.

Section 6.2: “In such case” is not clear. Is that meant: = 220;When the TPN was not assigned by the ingress node”?

[Fatai] No, but your comment makes sense. I t= hink we can use “When the TPN is assigned by the ingress node” = to replace “In this case”.

Section 8, the fourth bullet mentioned of “Ingress” nodes ma= y select the procedure either from RFC4328 or this document. How about the = egress nodes? Is it assumed to follow what the ingress has chosen? (Just a = clarification question)

[Fatai] There is nothing with egress nodes. T= here is this bullet because the ingress nodes have chance to select the pro= cedure (either from RFC4328 or this document).

Nits:

Section 3, when the term “Tributary Slot” is first used (i.e= ,. A new Tributary Slot granularity (i.e., 1.25Gbps) is also described̷= 0;), please add the abbreviation.

Section 3
s/legacy interfaces/the legacy interfaces/

Section 4

s/[RFC4328] extends/[RFC4328]= extended/

Section 5: Spell NVC.

Section 5.2: For Table 2, align the column dividers

Section 5.2

s/MUST equal to/MUST equal/ o= r /MUST be equal to/

Section 6.2: delete “out” before “outgoing” in t= he first sentence of the third paragraph.

Section 6.2: s/accordingly to/according to/ (6th paragraph)

Thanks.

Young

 

--_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E17291BAA4Adfweml511mbschi_-- From tsuri@kddilabs.jp Thu Sep 5 11:25:50 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060BA21E8109 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 11:25:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7KKUQt70j5sf for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 11:25:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mandala.kddilabs.jp (mandala.kddilabs.jp [IPv6:2001:200:601:12::16]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C518C21E8119 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 11:25:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (mandala.kddilabs.jp [127.0.0.1]) by mandala.kddilabs.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7488B174812C; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 03:24:57 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at kddilabs.jp Received: from mandala.kddilabs.jp ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mandala.kddilabs.jp [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1HNNPlDM3Opp; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 03:24:56 +0900 (JST) Received: from mail.onw.kddilabs.jp (unknown [172.19.79.6]) by mandala.kddilabs.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D72D1748113; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 03:24:56 +0900 (JST) Received: from [172.19.112.93] (ova093.vpn.kddilabs.jp [172.19.112.93]) by mail.onw.kddilabs.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B6DD658071; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 03:24:56 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <5228CC7A.4020601@kddilabs.jp> Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 03:24:58 +0900 From: Takehiro Tsuritani User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070002010004040404040500" Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" , "draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 18:25:53 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070002010004040404040500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft". BR, Takehiro (2013/08/10 3:10), BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A wrote: > Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) > As part of the preparation for WG document adoption: > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? > Please state either: > "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" > or > "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? > If yes to the above, please state either: > "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" > or > "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" > If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think > appropriate. > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the > above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are > aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next > stage until a response has been received from each author and listed > contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS > MESSAGE'S TO LINES. > If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules > which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of > others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any > contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more > information, please see the RFCs listed above and > _http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty_. > Thank you, > CCAMP WG Chairs > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your > response. > > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp --------------070002010004040404040500 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft".

BR,
Takehiro

(2013/08/10 3:10), BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A wrote:
Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP)
 
As part of the preparation for WG document adoption:
 
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  Please state either:
 
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(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?
 
   If yes to the above, please state either:
 
  "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"
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  appropriate.
 
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--------------070002010004040404040500-- From dhruv.dhody@huawei.com Thu Sep 5 20:59:00 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1D7C11E8226 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 20:59:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NhU7lfhz-dg0 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 20:58:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F171711E8253 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 20:58:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml203-edg.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.5-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id AWY44572; Fri, 06 Sep 2013 03:58:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML406-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.243) by lhreml203-edg.huawei.com (172.18.7.221) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 04:57:49 +0100 Received: from SZXEML411-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.67.138) by lhreml406-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.243) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 04:58:09 +0100 Received: from szxeml556-mbs.china.huawei.com ([169.254.4.198]) by szxeml411-hub.china.huawei.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.007; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 11:58:00 +0800 From: Dhruv Dhody To: Dhruv Dhody , "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" , "draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects@tools.ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Regarding IPR on draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects Thread-Index: Ac6VLIv04Xmy0haVR3Oh4IK1fEPtFwCJAWAwBNj8ELA= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 03:58:00 +0000 Message-ID: <23CE718903A838468A8B325B80962F9B4489496A@szxeml556-mbs.china.huawei.com> References: Accept-Language: en-GB, zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.18.146.248] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_23CE718903A838468A8B325B80962F9B4489496Aszxeml556mbschi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 03:59:01 -0000 --_000_23CE718903A838468A8B325B80962F9B4489496Aszxeml556mbschi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, A new disclosure for the same IPR has been filled for "draft-dhody-ccamp-rs= vp-te-domain-subobjects". So in reply to IPR query, Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft & Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2186/ And is correctly linked to the draft. http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=3Ddocument_search&id=3Ddraft= -dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects Regards, Dhruv --------------------------------------------------------------- Dhruv Dhody System Architect, Huawei Technologies India Pvt. Ltd., Banagalore Mobile: +91-9845062422 This e-mail and its attachments contain confidential information from HUAWE= I, which is intended only for the person or entity whose address is listed above. An= y use of the information contained herein in any way (including, but not limited to, tot= al or partial disclosure, reproduction, or dissemination) by persons other than the inten= ded recipient(s) is prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please not= ify the sender by phone or email immediately and delete it! From: Dhruv Dhody Sent: 12 August 2013 17:20 To: 'BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A'; draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects@tool= s.ietf.org Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: RE: Regarding IPR on draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft & Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (**) (**) The IPR was disclosed for "draft-dhody-pce-pcep-domain-sequence" [now = draft-ietf-pce-pcep-domain-sequence] http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1690/ We are working with the IPR dept to make sure it shows up for this document= as well, when searched via the IPR search tool http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=3Ddocument_search&id=3Ddraft= -dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects Regards, Dhruv --------------------------------------------------------------- Dhruv Dhody System Architect, Huawei Technologies India Pvt. Ltd., Banagalore Mobile: +91-9845062422 This e-mail and its attachments contain confidential information from HUAWE= I, which is intended only for the person or entity whose address is listed above. An= y use of the information contained herein in any way (including, but not limited to, tot= al or partial disclosure, reproduction, or dissemination) by persons other than the inten= ded recipient(s) is prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please not= ify the sender by phone or email immediately and delete it! From: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A [mailto:db3546@att.com] Sent: 09 August 2013 23:46 To: draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects@tools.ietf.org Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Regarding IPR on draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) As part of the preparation for WG document adoption: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. Thank you, CCAMP WG Chairs PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your response. --_000_23CE718903A838468A8B325B80962F9B4489496Aszxeml556mbschi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi All,

 

A new disclosure for the same IPR has b= een filled for “draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects”.

 

So in reply to IPR query,

 

Yes, I'm = aware of IPR that applies to this draft

&

Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in comp= liance with IETF IPR rules

https://datatracker= .ietf.org/ipr/2186/

 

And is correctly linked to the draft.

http://datatrac= ker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=3Ddocument_search&id=3Ddraft-dhody-ccam= p-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects

 

Regards,

Dhruv

 <= /p>

--------------------------= -------------------------------------

Dhruv Dhody

System Architect,

Huawei Technologies India = Pvt. Ltd.,

Banagalore

Mobile: +91-9845062422=

This e-mail and its attach= ments contain confidential information from HUAWEI, which

is intended only for the p= erson or entity whose address is listed above. Any use of the

information contained here= in in any way (including, but not limited to, total or partial

disclosure, reproduction, = or dissemination) by persons other than the intended

recipient(s) is prohibited= . If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by

phone or email immediately= and delete it!

 <= /p>

From: Dhruv Dh= ody
Sent: 12 August 2013 17:20
To: 'BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A'; draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjec= ts@tools.ietf.org
Cc: ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: RE: Regarding IPR on draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subob= jects

 

Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft

&

Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (**)

 

(**) The IPR was disclosed for "draft-dhody-pce-pcep-domain-sequenc= e" [now draft-ietf-pce-pcep-domain-sequence]
http://datatracker.ietf.o= rg/ipr/1690/

 

We are working with the IPR dept to make sure it shows up for this docum= ent as well, when searched via the IPR search tool

http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=3Ddocument_search&id= =3Ddraft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects=

 

Regards,

Dhruv

 

 

----------------------------------------= -----------------------

Dhruv Dhody

System Architect,

Huawei Technologies India = Pvt. Ltd.,

Banagalore

Mobile: +91-9845062422=

This e-mail and its attach= ments contain confidential information from HUAWEI, which

is intended only for the p= erson or entity whose address is listed above. Any use of the

information contained here= in in any way (including, but not limited to, total or partial

disclosure, reproduction, = or dissemination) by persons other than the intended

recipient(s) is prohibited= . If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by

phone or email immediately= and delete it!

 

From: BRUNGARD= , DEBORAH A [mailto:db3546@att.com]
Sent: 09 August 2013 23:46
To: draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects@tools.ietf.org
Cc: ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: Regarding IPR on draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobject= s

 

Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP)

 

As part of the preparation for WG docum= ent adoption:

 

Are you aware of any IPR that applies t= o draft identified above?

 

  Please state either:<= /span>

 

  "No, I'm not aware of any I= PR that applies to this draft"

  or

  "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that= applies to this draft"

 

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in c= ompliance with IETF IPR rules

(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for= more details)?

 

   If yes to the above, pleas= e state either:

 

  "Yes, the IPR has been disc= losed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"

  or

  "No, the IPR has not been d= isclosed"

 

  If you answer no, please provide= any additional details you think

  appropriate.

 

If you are listed as a document author = or contributor please answer the

above by responding to this email regar= dless of whether or not you are

aware of any relevant IPR.  This d= ocument will not advance to the next

stage until a response has been receive= d from each author and listed

contributor.  NOTE: THIS APPLIES T= O ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS

MESSAGE'S TO LINES.

 

If you are on the CCAMP WG email list b= ut are not listed as an author or

contributor, we remind you of your obli= gations under the IETF IPR rules

which encourages you to notify the IETF= if you are aware of IPR of

others on an IETF contribution, or to r= efrain from participating in any

contribution or discussion related to y= our undisclosed IPR.  For more

information, please see the RFCs listed= above and

 

Thank you,

CCAMP WG Chairs

 

PS Please include all listed in the hea= ders of this message in your

response.

 

 

--_000_23CE718903A838468A8B325B80962F9B4489496Aszxeml556mbschi_-- From udayasree.palle@huawei.com Thu Sep 5 22:09:06 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112FA11E815E for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 22:09:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HPpkZ1qIU8N5 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 22:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12BAA21F849C for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 22:08:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml203-edg.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.5-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id AWY48537; Fri, 06 Sep 2013 05:08:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML403-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.217) by lhreml203-edg.huawei.com (172.18.7.221) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 06:08:01 +0100 Received: from SZXEML424-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.67.163) by lhreml403-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.217) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 06:08:20 +0100 Received: from szxeml561-mbx.china.huawei.com ([169.254.5.50]) by szxeml424-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.82.67.163]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.007; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 13:08:13 +0800 From: Udayasree palle To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" , "draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects@tools.ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Regarding IPR on draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects Thread-Index: Ac6VLIv04Xmy0haVR3Oh4IK1fEPtFwC5tQ6QBKrfsrA= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 05:08:12 +0000 Message-ID: References: Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.18.146.131] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_EFF3DD5FFB75AC4D89158F068C24F4BB2CA9BF98szxeml561mbxchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 05:09:06 -0000 --_000_EFF3DD5FFB75AC4D89158F068C24F4BB2CA9BF98szxeml561mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, A new disclosure for the same IPR has been filled for "draft-dhody-ccamp-rs= vp-te-domain-subobjects". So in reply to IPR query, Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft & Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2186/ And is correctly linked to the draft. http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=3Ddocument_search&id=3Ddraft= -dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects Regards, Udaya From: Udayasree palle Sent: 13 August 2013 16:26 To: 'BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A'; draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects@tool= s.ietf.org Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: RE: Regarding IPR on draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft & Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (**) (**) The IPR was disclosed for "draft-dhody-pce-pcep-domain-sequence" [now = draft-ietf-pce-pcep-domain-sequence] http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1690/ As mentioned by Dhruv, we are working with the legal dept to make sure it s= hows up for this document as well, when searched via the IPR search tool - http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=3Ddocument_search&id=3Ddraft= -dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects Regards, Udaya From: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A [mailto:db3546@att.com] Sent: 09 August 2013 23:46 To: draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects@tools.ietf.org Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Regarding IPR on draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) As part of the preparation for WG document adoption: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. Thank you, CCAMP WG Chairs PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your response. --_000_EFF3DD5FFB75AC4D89158F068C24F4BB2CA9BF98szxeml561mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi All,

 

A new disclosure for the same IPR has b= een filled for “draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects”.

 

So in reply to IPR query,

 

Yes, I'm = aware of IPR that applies to this draft

&

Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in comp= liance with IETF IPR rules

https://datatracker= .ietf.org/ipr/2186/

 

And is correctly linked to the draft.

http://datatrac= ker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=3Ddocument_search&id=3Ddraft-dhody-ccam= p-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects

 

Regards,

Udaya

 <= /p>

From: Udayasre= e palle
Sent: 13 August 2013 16:26
To: 'BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A'; draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjec= ts@tools.ietf.org
Cc: ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: RE: Regarding IPR on draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subob= jects

 

Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft=

&

Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IE= TF IPR rules (**)

 

(**) The IPR was disclosed for "draft-dhody-pce-= pcep-domain-sequence" [now draft-ietf-pce-pcep-domain-sequence]

htt= p://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1690/

 

As mentioned by Dhruv, we are working with the legal = dept to make sure it shows up for this document as well, when searched via = the IPR search tool -

http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=3Ddocument_search&id= =3Ddraft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects

 

Regards,

Udaya

 

 

From: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A [mailto:db3546@att.com]

Sent: 09 August 2013 23:46

To: draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects@tools.ietf.org

Cc: ccamp@ietf.= org

Subject: Regarding IPR on draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-= te-domain-subobjects

 

Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP)

 

As part of the preparation for WG document adopti= on:

 

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft id= entified above?

 

  Please state either:

 

  "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that ap= plies to this draft"

  or

  "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies t= o this draft"

 

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance = with IETF IPR rules

(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more deta= ils)?

 

   If yes to the above, please state ei= ther:

 

  "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in c= ompliance with IETF IPR rules"

  or

  "No, the IPR has not been disclosed&q= uot;

 

  If you answer no, please provide any addit= ional details you think

  appropriate.

 

If you are listed as a document author or contrib= utor please answer the

above by responding to this email regardless of w= hether or not you are

aware of any relevant IPR.  This document wi= ll not advance to the next

stage until a response has been received from eac= h author and listed

contributor.  NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF Y= OU LISTED IN THIS

MESSAGE'S TO LINES.

 

If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not= listed as an author or

contributor, we remind you of your obligations un= der the IETF IPR rules

which encourages you to notify the IETF if you ar= e aware of IPR of

others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain fro= m participating in any

contribution or discussion related to your undisc= losed IPR.  For more

information, please see the RFCs listed above and=

http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/= wiki/IntellectualProperty.

 

Thank you,

CCAMP WG Chairs

 

PS Please include all listed in the headers of th= is message in your

response.

 

 

--_000_EFF3DD5FFB75AC4D89158F068C24F4BB2CA9BF98szxeml561mbxchi_-- From venugopalreddyk@huawei.com Thu Sep 5 22:18:36 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACEE721F9DA0 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 22:18:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9gtXVDVXTOuX for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 22:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2043521F9D80 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 22:18:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml203-edg.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.5-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id AVC37251; Fri, 06 Sep 2013 05:18:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML403-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.217) by lhreml203-edg.huawei.com (172.18.7.221) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 06:18:08 +0100 Received: from SZXEML460-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.67.203) by lhreml403-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.217) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 06:18:28 +0100 Received: from blrprnc09ns (10.18.96.98) by szxeml460-hub.china.huawei.com (10.82.67.203) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.323.7; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 13:18:21 +0800 From: KONDREDDY VENUGOPAL REDDY To: "'BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A'" , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 10:48:20 +0530 Message-ID: <007901ceaac0$81208d40$8361a7c0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007A_01CEAAEE.9AD8C940" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac6VLIv04Xmy0haVR3Oh4IK1fEPtFwDiMJ0QBILGFmA= Content-Language: en-us X-Originating-IP: [10.18.96.98] X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 05:18:36 -0000 ------=_NextPart_000_007A_01CEAAEE.9AD8C940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, A new disclosure for the same IPR has been filled for "draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects". So in reply to IPR query, Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft & Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2186/ And is correctly linked to the draft. http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=document_search&id=draft-dhod y-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects Regards, Venu From: KONDREDDY VENUGOPAL REDDY [mailto:venugopalreddyk@huawei.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 11:44 AM To: 'BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A'; 'draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects@tools.ietf.org' Cc: 'ccamp@ietf.org' Subject: RE: Regarding IPR on draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft & Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (**) (**) The IPR was disclosed for "draft-dhody-pce-pcep-domain-sequence" [now draft-ietf-pce-pcep-domain-sequence] http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1690/ As mentioned by Dhruv, we are working with the legal dept to make sure it shows up for this document as well, when searched via the IPR search tool - http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=document_search&id=draft-dhod y-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects Regards, Venu From: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A [mailto:db3546@att.com] Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 11:46 PM To: draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects@tools.ietf.org Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Regarding IPR on draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) As part of the preparation for WG document adoption: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? 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Hi All, =

 =

A new = disclosure for the same IPR has been filled for = “draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects”. =

 =

So in = reply to IPR query,

 =

Yes, I'm = aware of IPR that applies to this draft

&<= /o:p>

Yes, the = IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR = rules

https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2186/=

 =

And is = correctly linked to the draft.

http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=3D= document_search&id=3Ddraft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects

 =

Regards,

Venu

 

 

From:= = KONDREDDY VENUGOPAL REDDY [mailto:venugopalreddyk@huawei.com] =
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 11:44 AM
To: = 'BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A'; = 'draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects@tools.ietf.org'
Cc: 'ccamp@ietf.org'
Subject: RE: Regarding IPR on = draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects

 

Yes, I'm aware of IPR that = applies to this draft

&

<= p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Yes, the IPR has been = disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (**)

 

=

(**) The IPR was disclosed = for "draft-dhody-pce-pcep-domain-sequence" [now = draft-ietf-pce-pcep-domain-sequence]

http://datatracker.ietf.org/= ipr/1690/

 

=

As mentioned by Dhruv, we = are working with the legal dept to make sure it shows up for this = document as well, when searched via the IPR search tool - =

http://datatracker.ietf.org/= ipr/search/?option=3Ddocument_search&id=3Ddraft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-d= omain-subobjects

 

=

Regards,

Venu

 

From:= = BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A [mailto:db3546@att.com]
Sent: Friday, = August 09, 2013 11:46 PM
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------=_NextPart_000_007A_01CEAAEE.9AD8C940-- From zhangfatai@huawei.com Fri Sep 6 00:34:27 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0621221E8084; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 00:34:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.282 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.282 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.316, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zlYopmTzrs-n; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 00:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2C0D11E8118; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 00:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml204-edg.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.5-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id AVC46984; Fri, 06 Sep 2013 07:34:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML401-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.240) by lhreml204-edg.china.huawei.com (172.18.7.223) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 08:33:26 +0100 Received: from SZXEMA410-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.72.42) by lhreml401-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.240) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 08:33:44 +0100 Received: from SZXEMA504-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.8.152]) by SZXEMA410-HUB.china.huawei.com ([10.82.72.42]) with mapi id 14.03.0146.000; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 15:33:31 +0800 From: Fatai Zhang To: "adrian@olddog.co.uk" , "ietf@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Last Call: (Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Signaling Extensions for the evolving G.709 Optical Transport Networks Control) to Proposed Standard Thread-Index: Ac6d1f8U/0fVrXNNRjCEO33cHnCIigAaKmFg//+qbgD/5oRJsA== Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 07:33:29 +0000 Message-ID: References: <00fe01ce9dd6$2dc59a10$8950ce30$@olddog.co.uk> <008e01ce9e56$ef180d30$cd482790$@olddog.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <008e01ce9e56$ef180d30$cd482790$@olddog.co.uk> Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.66.72.159] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_F82A4B6D50F9464B8EBA55651F541CF85CA62157SZXEMA504MBSchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Last Call: (Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Signaling Extensions for the evolving G.709 Optical Transport Networks Control) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 07:34:27 -0000 --_000_F82A4B6D50F9464B8EBA55651F541CF85CA62157SZXEMA504MBSchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Adrian, I am updating this draft, but one issue is about the new small section. You said "adding a small section including all of the statements you made i= n your email", but I really don't know which kind of section should be adde= d to cover various aspects including management tools, OAM, alarm, MIB, etc= . I also suspect the value to have this kind of new section to talk about som= ething (and nothing new), which may not be related to the subject of this d= raft (ie., RSVP-TE extensions for OTN *connection* establishment). Therefore, I would like to hear more from you. Could you give a title for t= his new section? Best Regards Fatai From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 6:12 PM To: Fatai Zhang; ietf@ietf.org Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: RE: [CCAMP] Last Call: (Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Signaling Extensi= ons for the evolving G.709 Optical Transport Networks Control) to Proposed = Standard Hi Fatai, I think you nicely answered your own questions :-) I would suggest adding a small section including all of the statements you = made in your email. (Well, no need to refer to Berlin and the CCAMP chairs = :-) Cheers, Adrian From: Fatai Zhang [mailto:zhangfatai@huawei.com] Sent: 21 August 2013 08:40 To: adrian@olddog.co.uk; ietf@ietf.org Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: RE: [CCAMP] Last Call: (Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Signaling Extensi= ons for the evolving G.709 Optical Transport Networks Control) to Proposed = Standard Hi Adrian, Thanks very much. I can update the nits and editorial issues quickly, but I would like to dis= cuss more with you for the following points to make things clear before I u= pdate the draft. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Please consider and note what updates to GMPLS management tools are needed. [Fatai]This has been mentioned in [Framework] document. Did you mean that w= e need add one sentence in some place of this document to refer to [Framewo= rk] document to mention management tools? Are there any changes to the Alarms that might arise? We have a document fo= r that. [Fatai] No. RFC4783 is still applicable. Are there any changes to the way OAM is controlled? We have a document for = that. [Fatai] No, it could be done through NMS or [draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-sdh-o= tn-oam-ext]. Should the new G-PIDs show in the TC MIB managed by IANA at https://www.iana.org/assignments/ianagmplstc-mib/ianagmplstc-mib.xhtml This should happen automgically when the feeding registries are updated but it is probably best to add a specific request for IANA. [Fatai] Will do that. Will other MIB work be needed (in the future) to make it possible to read new information (labels, tspecs) from network devices? [Fatai] I am not sure. I asked the similar question (not on this draft) dur= ing Berlin meeting. The chairs answered that it could be driven by drafts. Best Regards Fatai -----Original Message----- From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of A= drian Farrel Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 2:51 AM To: ietf@ietf.org Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Last Call: (Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Signaling Extensi= ons for the evolving G.709 Optical Transport Networks Control) to Proposed = Standard As sponsoring AD I have the following last call comments I hope you will ta= ke on board. Thanks, Adrian Please fix the two lines that are too long (see idnits) --- Please expand "OTN" on first use in the main text. Please expand "TS" on its first use. --- 6.2 The ingress node of an LSP MAY include Label ERO (Explicit Route Object) to indicate the label in each hops along the path. Missing "subobject". --- 6.2.1 When an upstream node receives a Resv message containing an GENERALIZED_LABEL object s/an/a/ --- Please consider and note what updates to GMPLS management tools are needed. Are there any changes to the Alarms that might arise? We have a document for that. Are there any changes to the way OAM is controlled? We have a document for that. Should the new G-PIDs show in the TC MIB managed by IANA at https://www.iana.org/assignments/ianagmplstc-mib/ianagmplstc-mib.xhtml This should happen automgically when the feeding registries are updated but it is probably best to add a specific request for IANA. Will other MIB work be needed (in the future) to make it possible to read new information (labels, tspecs) from network devices? --- Please fix so that you have three sections: Authors' Addresses (only those people on the front page) Contributors (other people who made significant text contributions to the document) Acknowledgements (other people who helped with the work) --- [OTN-OSPF] should be a normative reference for its use to define the value of the switching type used in signaling. _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp --_000_F82A4B6D50F9464B8EBA55651F541CF85CA62157SZXEMA504MBSchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Adri= an,

&n= bsp;

I am up= dating this draft, but one issue is about the new small section.

&n= bsp;

You sai= d “adding a small section including all of the statements you made in your = email&= #8221;, but I really don’t know which kind of section should be added to cov= er various aspects including management tools, OAM, alarm, MIB, etc.

 

I also = suspect the value to have this kind of new section to talk about something = (and nothing new), which may not be related to the subject of this draft (i= e., RSVP-TE extensions for OTN *connection* establishment).

 

Therefo= re, I would like to hear more from you. Could you give a title for this new= section?

&n= bsp;

&n= bsp;

Best Re= gards

&n= bsp;

Fatai

&n= bsp;

From: Adrian Farre= l [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 6:12 PM
To: Fatai Zhang; ietf@ietf.org
Cc: ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [CCAMP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling= -g709v3-11.txt> (Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Sign= aling Extensions for the evolving G.709 Optical Transport Networks Control)= to Proposed Standard

 

Hi Fatai,

 

I think you nicely answered your own questions :-)

 

I would suggest adding a small section including all of the state= ments you made in your email. (Well, no need to refer to Berlin and the CCA= MP chairs :-)

 

Cheers,

Adrian

 

From: Fatai Zhang = [mailto:zhangfatai@huawei.com]
Sent: 21 August 2013 08:40
To: adrian@olddog.co.uk; ietf@ietf.org
Cc: ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [CCAMP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling= -g709v3-11.txt> (Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Sign= aling Extensions for the evolving G.709 Optical Transport Networks Control)= to Proposed Standard

 

Hi Adrian,=

 

Thanks very much.

 

I can update the nits and ed= itorial issues quickly, but I would like to discuss more with you for the f= ollowing points to make things clear before I update the draft.

 

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Please consider and note wha= t updates to GMPLS management tools are needed.

 

[Fat= ai]This has been mentioned in [Framework] document. Did you mean that we ne= ed add one sentence in some place of this document to refer to [Framework] = document to mention management tools?

 

Are there any changes to the= Alarms that might arise? We have a document for that.

 

[Fat= ai] No. RFC4783 is still applicable.=

 

Are there any changes to the= way OAM is controlled? We have a document for that.

 

[Fat= ai] No, it could be done through NMS or [draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-sdh-otn-o= am-ext].

 

Should the new G-PIDs show i= n the TC MIB managed by IANA at

https://www.iana.org/assignm= ents/ianagmplstc-mib/ianagmplstc-mib.xhtml

This should happen automgica= lly when the feeding registries are updated

but it is probably best to a= dd a specific request for IANA.

 

[Fat= ai] Will do that.

 

Will other MIB work be neede= d (in the future) to make it possible to

read new information (labels= , tspecs) from network devices?

 

[Fat= ai] I am not sure. I asked the similar question (not on this draft) during = Berlin meeting. The chairs answered that it could be driven by drafts.

 

 

 

Best Regards

 

Fatai

 

-----Original Message----- From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of A= drian Farrel
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 2:51 AM
To: ietf@ietf.org
Cc: ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Last Call: <draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3= -11.txt> (Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Signaling E= xtensions for the evolving G.709 Optical Transport Networks Control) to Pro= posed Standard

 

As sponsoring AD I have the = following last call comments I hope you will take on

board.

 

Thanks,

Adrian

 

Please fix the two lines tha= t are too long (see idnits)

 

---

 

Please expand "OTN"= ; on first use in the main text.

Please expand "TS"= on its first use.

 

---

 

6.2

 

   The ingress nod= e of an LSP MAY include Label ERO (Explicit Route

   Object) to= indicate the label in each hops along the path.

 

Missing "subobject"= ;.

 

---

 

6.2.1

 

   When an upstrea= m node receives a Resv message containing an

   GENERALIZE= D_LABEL object

 

s/an/a/

 

---

 

Please consider and note wha= t updates to GMPLS management tools are

needed.

 

Are there any changes to the= Alarms that might arise? We have a document

for that.<= /p>

 

Are there any changes to the= way OAM is controlled? We have a document

for that.<= /p>

 

Should the new G-PIDs show i= n the TC MIB managed by IANA at

https://www.iana.org/assignm= ents/ianagmplstc-mib/ianagmplstc-mib.xhtml

This should happen automgica= lly when the feeding registries are updated

but it is probably best to a= dd a specific request for IANA.

 

Will other MIB work be neede= d (in the future) to make it possible to

read new information (labels= , tspecs) from network devices?

 

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Please fix so that you have = three sections:

 

Authors' Addresses (only tho= se people on the front page)

Contributors (other people w= ho made significant text contributions to

the document)

Acknowledgements (other peop= le who helped with the work)

 

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[OTN-OSPF] should be a norma= tive reference for its use to define the

value of the switching type = used in signaling.

 

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--_000_F82A4B6D50F9464B8EBA55651F541CF85CA62157SZXEMA504MBSchi_-- From Ladan.Pickering@us.fujitsu.com Fri Sep 6 16:46:26 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E2521E80CC for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 16:46:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Iv-vTSgRAhUZ for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 16:46:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fncnmp03.fnc.fujitsu.com (fncnmp03.fnc.fujitsu.com [168.127.0.56]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67BA121E8054 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 16:46:20 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.90,858,1371099600"; d="scan'208,217";a="38941505" Received: from rchexhcp2.fnc.net.local ([168.127.134.76]) by fncnmp01.fnc.fujitsu.com with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 06 Sep 2013 18:46:18 -0500 Received: from RCHEXMBP1.fnc.net.local ([169.254.2.43]) by RCHEXHCP2.fnc.net.local ([168.127.134.76]) with mapi id 14.02.0347.000; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 18:46:18 -0500 From: "Pickering, Ladan" To: "ccamp@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: gmpls-g.709-lmp-discovery Rev02 vs Rev06 - OTU2e Thread-Index: Ac6rW0fMZ2iAV1hxSIKwo5rUiHL0uA== Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 23:46:17 +0000 Message-ID: <01B828A5E4EE9748A7A3575B6CE345C66F862575@RCHEXMBP1.fnc.net.local> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [168.127.136.253] x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.2.0.3176-7.000.1014-20132.003 x-tm-as-result: No--40.977600-0.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: Yes x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_01B828A5E4EE9748A7A3575B6CE345C66F862575RCHEXMBP1fncnet_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [CCAMP] gmpls-g.709-lmp-discovery Rev02 vs Rev06 - OTU2e X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 23:46:26 -0000 --_000_01B828A5E4EE9748A7A3575B6CE345C66F862575RCHEXMBP1fncnet_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Xian, I have noticed that in revision 02 of the LMP draft, OTU2e was defined as a= HO-ODU with a value of 5 under OD(T)UK, but on rev 06 of this draft this h= as been removed, but "Flag F" corresponding to ODU2e as a LO-ODU is still = in rev 6. Version 2: OD(T)Uk field Signal type of HO ODUk or OTUk ------------- ------------------------------ 0 Reserved (for future use) 1 HO ODU1 or OTU1 2 HO ODU2 or OTU2 3 HO ODU3 or OTU3 4 HO ODU4 or OTU4 5 OTU2e 6 OTU3e1 7 OTU3e2 8-15 Reserved (for future use) Version 6: OD(T)Uk field Signal type of HO ODUk or OTUk ------------- ------------------------------ 0 Reserved (for future use) 1 HO ODU1 or OTU1 2 HO ODU2 or OTU2 3 HO ODU3 or OTU3 4 HO ODU4 or OTU4 5-15 Reserved (for future use) Can you please help me understand why OTU2e was removed from OD(T)UK? If we have a link that supports OTU2e and allows a 11.095 rate, what should= go in ODU(T)UK? Thanks, Ladan --_000_01B828A5E4EE9748A7A3575B6CE345C66F862575RCHEXMBP1fncnet_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Xian,

I have noticed that in revision 02 of the LMP draft,= OTU2e was defined as a HO-ODU with a value of 5 under OD(T)UK, but on rev = 06 of this draft this has been removed, but  “Flag F” corr= esponding to ODU2e as a LO-ODU is still in rev 6.

 

Version 2:

OD(T)Uk field     Signal type of= HO ODUk or OTUk

   -------------     -= -----------------------------

      0   &n= bsp;          Reserved (for fu= ture use)

      1   &n= bsp;          HO ODU1 or OTU1 =

      2   &n= bsp;          HO ODU2 or OTU2 =

      3   &n= bsp;          HO ODU3 or OTU3 =

      4   &n= bsp;          HO ODU4 or OTU4 =

   &= nbsp;  5     = ;         OTU2e

      6   &n= bsp;          OTU3e1

      7   &n= bsp;          OTU3e2

      8-15   = ;        Reserved (for future use) =

 

Version 6:

OD(T)Uk field  = ;   Signal type of HO ODUk or OTUk

   -----------= --     ------------------------------

    =   0            =   Reserved (for future use)

    =   1           &= nbsp;  HO ODU1 or OTU1

    =   2           &= nbsp;  HO ODU2 or OTU2

    =   3           &= nbsp;  HO ODU3 or OTU3

    =   4           &= nbsp;  HO ODU4 or OTU4

    =   5-15           Res= erved (for future use)

 =

Can you please help me understand why OTU2e was remo= ved from OD(T)UK?

 

If we have a link that supports OTU2e and allows a 1= 1.095 rate, what should go in ODU(T)UK?

 

Thanks,

Ladan

 

--_000_01B828A5E4EE9748A7A3575B6CE345C66F862575RCHEXMBP1fncnet_-- From zhang.xian@huawei.com Sun Sep 8 18:44:01 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7876E21F99F4 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 18:44:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.056 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.056 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.661, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_BASE64_TEXT=1.753, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gi9R1kNQ0m+B for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 18:43:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BCA211E817B for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2013 18:43:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml204-edg.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.5-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id AXB99953; 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Hi, Ladan,

 

     The change made in the OTN LMP draft was= just reflecting what was agreed a while ago in CCAMP WG that only G.709 is= referenced.

 

As you probably already know that OTU= 2e is not supported in G.709( as the note states below Table 7-1 of the ver= sion published in Feb. 2012), but rather specified in G.sup43. That=A1=AFs why we do not cover it any more in the o= ur OTN LMP draft.

 

I hope this clarify your question.

 

Regards,

 

Xian

 

 

From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org= ] On Behalf Of Pickering, Ladan
Sent: 2013=C4=EA9=D4=C27<= span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=C8=D5 7:46
To: ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: [CCAMP] gmpls-g.709-lmp-discovery Rev02 vs Rev06 - OTU2e

 

Hi Xian,

I have noticed that in revision= 02 of the LMP draft, OTU2e was defined as a HO-ODU with a value of 5 under= OD(T)UK, but on rev 06 of this draft this has been removed, but  =A1= =B0Flag F=A1=B1 corresponding to ODU2e as a LO-ODU is still in rev 6.

 

Vers= ion 2:

OD(T)Uk field   =   Signal type of HO ODUk or OTUk

   ------------- = ;    ------------------------------

      = 0            &n= bsp; Reserved (for future use)

      = 1            &n= bsp; HO ODU1 or OTU1

      = 2            &n= bsp; HO ODU2 or OTU2

      = 3            &n= bsp; HO ODU3 or OTU3

      = 4            &n= bsp; HO ODU4 or OTU4

&nbs= p;     = 5            &n= bsp; OTU2e

      = 6            &n= bsp; OTU3e1

      = 7            &n= bsp; OTU3e2

      = 8-15           Reserved (= for future use)

 

Vers= ion 6:

OD(T)Uk f= ield     Signal type of HO ODUk or OTUk

 &nb= sp; -------------     ------------------------------

 &nb= sp;    0        &nbs= p;     Reserved (for future use)

 &nb= sp;    1        &nbs= p;     HO ODU1 or OTU1

 &nb= sp;    2        &nbs= p;     HO ODU2 or OTU2

 &nb= sp;    3        &nbs= p;     HO ODU3 or OTU3

 &nb= sp;    4        &nbs= p;     HO ODU4 or OTU4

 &nb= sp;    5-15        &= nbsp;  Reserved (for future use)

&nbs= p;

Can you please help me understa= nd why OTU2e was removed from OD(T)UK?

 

If we have a link that supports= OTU2e and allows a 11.095 rate, what should go in ODU(T)UK?

 

Thanks,

Ladan

 

--_000_C636AF2FA540124E9B9ACB5A6BECCE6B18A13218szxeml510mbxchi_-- From lberger@labn.net Mon Sep 9 04:41:51 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E2D21E817F for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 04:41:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.665 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.665 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P1yJShA6qPNc for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 04:41:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gproxy3-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy3-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.30.42]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 77C2621E8186 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 04:40:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 25139 invoked by uid 0); 9 Sep 2013 11:40:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailchannelsproxy4.unifiedlayer.com) (10.0.90.84) by gproxy3.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 9 Sep 2013 11:40:49 -0000 X-Sender-Id: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Received: from box313.bluehost.com (box313.bluehost.com [69.89.31.113]) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/4.8.87); Mon, 09 Sep 2013 11:40:49 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=0ZcZX/npERs68B0pSZZ2f4JwjNPM8X/AvQrNeDN5R2U=; b=c2Ha3UuxLmjWzNHbAxWWjZ5WNIyxNEldjzWnSGP8zwXjN5n4U8qxoK7VEQVZTQvukGoWFKv+fS2TWd8hb7UtuqdbluR+gv4zakDHye45yzStZzSBkVLjLRznsmPZvo6Q; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:32934 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VIzpp-0007Ul-J9 for ccamp@ietf.org; Mon, 09 Sep 2013 05:40:49 -0600 Message-ID: <522DB3BE.6000604@labn.net> Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2013 07:40:46 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: CCAMP X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Subject: [CCAMP] Missing WSON IPR declarations X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2013 11:41:51 -0000 WSON Authors/Contributors, If you have not yet responded to the IPR statement requests made in messages listed below, please do so ASAP. You are holding up WG process! http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14977.html http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14976.html http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14979.html http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14978.html http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14980.html http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14981.html Thank you, Lou From jmh@joelhalpern.com Mon Sep 9 05:15:21 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F03421E819D; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 05:15:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SOH8gDOC0+mp; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 05:15:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailc2.tigertech.net (mailc2.tigertech.net [208.80.4.156]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E68B21E8199; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 05:14:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailc2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E741B1BCBA58; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 05:14:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at c2.tigertech.net Received: from Joels-MacBook-Pro.local (unknown [192.165.183.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailc2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DC8621BCBA53; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 05:14:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <522DBBBC.7050103@joelhalpern.com> Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2013 08:14:52 -0400 From: "Joel M. Halpern" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org" , "rtg-dir@ietf.org" , draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model.all@tools.ietf.org, CCAMP WG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [CCAMP] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model-11.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2013 12:15:21 -0000 Hello, I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes on special request. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing Directorate, please see http://www.ietf.org/iesg/directorate/routing.html Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion or by updating the draft. Document: draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model-11.txt Reviewer: Joel Halpern Review Date: 9-September-2013 IETF LC End Date: 19-Sept-2013 Intended Status: Informational Summary: I have some minor concerns about this document that I think should be resolved before publication. Comments: In general, the document needs to be consistently clear as to what gaps it identifies. Many cases are quite clear, and some are not. I will try to identify the less clear cases in the comments below. The last paragraph of section 3.2 is clear and explicit, and what I expected at the end of each section. The previous paragraph ("Specific information could be defined") is much less helpful. Moderate Issues: It is unclear if there are gaps or requirements identified by sections 3.1.1 or 3.1.2. Given that this document is about mapping to G.709, it is unclear what is intended by the usage of "LSP". My guess is that it is intended to mean Label Switch Paths set up by GMPLS to carry OTU/UDU elements. It should be stated explicitly. Minor Issues: All acronyms should be expanded upon first use. In section 2 particularly, the OCh (Optical Channel?) should also be clear how that relates to the OTU and ODU being discussed. Figure 4 uses the abbreviation TSG, which is not defined, and not used elsewhere. If it is needed in the figure, it might suffice to follow "TS granularity" in the caption with "(TSG)". Section 8 on Maximum LSP Bandwdith seems to be objecting to too much information leading to a "waste of bits". While possibly of interest to the WG, that does not seem to fit a gap analysis. Similarly, section 10 on Priority Support reads as implementation advice rather than a gap needing protocol changes. Nit: From prvs=69647c4706=lyong@ciena.com Mon Sep 9 06:52:53 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF5C21F93E4 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 06:52:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.265 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.265 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0lXEpQzklook for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 06:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0a-00103a01.pphosted.com (mx0a-00103a01.pphosted.com [67.231.144.234]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA0221F9AC1 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 06:49:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0000419.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by mx0a-00103a01.pphosted.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r89DkAi2008227; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 09:49:43 -0400 Received: from mdwvexchht01.ciena.com (LIN1-118-36-28.ciena.com [63.118.36.28]) by mx0a-00103a01.pphosted.com with ESMTP id 1epxvt0e0k-13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 09 Sep 2013 09:49:43 -0400 Received: from ONWVEXCHHT04.ciena.com (10.128.6.44) by MDWVEXCHHT01.ciena.com (10.4.156.175) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.298.1; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 09:49:21 -0400 Received: from ONWVEXCHMB05.ciena.com ([::1]) by ONWVEXCHHT04.ciena.com ([::1]) with mapi; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 09:49:20 -0400 From: "Ong, Lyndon" To: Lou Berger , CCAMP Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 09:49:16 -0400 Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Missing WSON IPR declarations Thread-Index: Ac6tUyhhQcnugmwhRUuN3O/lYq2QxgAEDBZA Message-ID: <9B8F4BBDF8AAA54693083BC8753AE3A721A66D93@ONWVEXCHMB05.ciena.com> References: <522DB3BE.6000604@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <522DB3BE.6000604@labn.net> Accept-Language: en-US, en-CA Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, en-CA X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: SMEX-10.0.0.1412-7.000.1014-20136.007 X-TM-AS-Result: No--8.577900-8.000000-31 X-TM-AS-User-Approved-Sender: No X-TM-AS-User-Blocked-Sender: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-09-09_04:2013-09-09, 2013-09-08, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1309090070 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Missing WSON IPR declarations X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2013 13:52:53 -0000 My bad... "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" Lyndon -----Original Message----- From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of L= ou Berger Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 4:41 AM To: CCAMP Subject: [CCAMP] Missing WSON IPR declarations WSON Authors/Contributors, If you have not yet responded to the IPR statement requests made in message= s listed below, please do so ASAP. You are holding up WG process! http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14977.html http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14976.html http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14979.html http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14978.html http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14980.html http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14981.html Thank you, Lou _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From Ladan.Pickering@us.fujitsu.com Mon Sep 9 07:42:55 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5E521F9EE5 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 07:42:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a9Kc3UJ9s6p8 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 07:42:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fncnmp03.fnc.fujitsu.com (fncnmp03.fnc.fujitsu.com [168.127.0.56]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3660B11E80D3 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 07:33:52 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.90,866,1371099600"; d="scan'208,217";a="39075856" Received: from rchexhcp1.fnc.net.local ([168.127.134.75]) by fncnmp01.fnc.fujitsu.com with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 09 Sep 2013 09:33:52 -0500 Received: from RCHEXMBP1.fnc.net.local ([169.254.2.43]) by RCHEXHCP1.fnc.net.local ([168.127.134.75]) with mapi id 14.02.0347.000; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 09:33:52 -0500 From: "Pickering, Ladan" To: "Zhangxian (Xian)" Thread-Topic: gmpls-g.709-lmp-discovery Rev02 vs Rev06 - OTU2e Thread-Index: Ac6rW0fMZ2iAV1hxSIKwo5rUiHL0uABocWPgABqbMUA= Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 14:33:51 +0000 Message-ID: <01B828A5E4EE9748A7A3575B6CE345C66F86283A@RCHEXMBP1.fnc.net.local> References: <01B828A5E4EE9748A7A3575B6CE345C66F862575@RCHEXMBP1.fnc.net.local> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [168.127.136.253] x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.2.0.3176-7.000.1014-20138.000 x-tm-as-result: No--46.966700-0.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: Yes x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_01B828A5E4EE9748A7A3575B6CE345C66F86283ARCHEXMBP1fncnet_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] gmpls-g.709-lmp-discovery Rev02 vs Rev06 - OTU2e X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2013 14:42:55 -0000 --_000_01B828A5E4EE9748A7A3575B6CE345C66F86283ARCHEXMBP1fncnet_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Xian, Thanks for your reply. Do we still need to keep =1B$B!H=1B(BFlag F=1B$B!I= =1B(B? Flag F: indicates whether LO ODU2e is supported. Thanks, Ladan From: Zhangxian (Xian) [mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com] Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 8:44 PM To: Pickering, Ladan Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: RE: gmpls-g.709-lmp-discovery Rev02 vs Rev06 - OTU2e Hi, Ladan, The change made in the OTN LMP draft was just reflecting what was agre= ed a while ago in CCAMP WG that only G.709 is referenced. As you probably already know that OTU2e is not supported in G.709( as the n= ote states below Table 7-1 of the version published in Feb. 2012), but rath= er specified in G.sup43. That=1B$B!G=1B(Bs why we do not cover it any more = in the our OTN LMP draft. I hope this clarify your question. Regards, Xian From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of P= ickering, Ladan Sent: 2013=1B$BG/=1B(B9=1B$B7n=1B(B7=1B$BF|=1B(B 7:46 To: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] gmpls-g.709-lmp-discovery Rev02 vs Rev06 - OTU2e Hi Xian, I have noticed that in revision 02 of the LMP draft, OTU2e was defined as a= HO-ODU with a value of 5 under OD(T)UK, but on rev 06 of this draft this h= as been removed, but =1B$B!H=1B(BFlag F=1B$B!I=1B(B corresponding to ODU2e= as a LO-ODU is still in rev 6. Version 2: OD(T)Uk field Signal type of HO ODUk or OTUk ------------- ------------------------------ 0 Reserved (for future use) 1 HO ODU1 or OTU1 2 HO ODU2 or OTU2 3 HO ODU3 or OTU3 4 HO ODU4 or OTU4 5 OTU2e 6 OTU3e1 7 OTU3e2 8-15 Reserved (for future use) Version 6: OD(T)Uk field Signal type of HO ODUk or OTUk ------------- ------------------------------ 0 Reserved (for future use) 1 HO ODU1 or OTU1 2 HO ODU2 or OTU2 3 HO ODU3 or OTU3 4 HO ODU4 or OTU4 5-15 Reserved (for future use) Can you please help me understand why OTU2e was removed from OD(T)UK? If we have a link that supports OTU2e and allows a 11.095 rate, what should= go in ODU(T)UK? Thanks, Ladan --_000_01B828A5E4EE9748A7A3575B6CE345C66F86283ARCHEXMBP1fncnet_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Xian,

Thanks for your reply.= Do we still need to keep =1B$B!H=1B(BFlag F=1B$B!I=1B(B?=

Flag F: indicates whet= her LO ODU2e is supported.

 

Thanks,

Ladan

 

From: Zhangxia= n (Xian) [mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 8:44 PM
To: Pickering, Ladan
Cc: ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: RE: gmpls-g.709-lmp-discovery Rev02 vs Rev06 - OTU2e

 

Hi, L= adan,

 = ;

 = ;    The change made in the OTN LMP draft was just reflectin= g what was agreed a while ago in CCAMP WG that only G.709 is referenced.

 = ;

As you probably already know that OTU2e is not supported in = G.709( as the note states below Table 7-1 of the version published in Feb. = 2012), but rather specified in G.sup43. That=1B$B!G=1B(Bs why we do not cover it any more in the our O= TN LMP draft.

 

I hope this clarify your question.

 

Regards,

 

Xian

 = ;

 = ;

From: ccamp-bo= unces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Pickering, Ladan
Sent: 2013=1B$BG/=1B(B9=1B$B7n=1B(B7=1B= $BF|=1B(B 7:46
To: ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: [CCAMP] gmpls-g.709-lmp-discovery Rev02 vs Rev06 - OTU2e

 

Hi Xian,

I have noticed that in revision 02 of the LMP draft,= OTU2e was defined as a HO-ODU with a value of 5 under OD(T)UK, but on rev = 06 of this draft this has been removed, but  =1B$B!H=1B(BFlag F=1B$B!I= =1B(B corresponding to ODU2e as a LO-ODU is still in rev 6.

 

Version 2:

OD(T)Uk field     Signal type of= HO ODUk or OTUk

   -------------     -= -----------------------------

      0   &n= bsp;          Reserved (for fu= ture use)

      1   &n= bsp;          HO ODU1 or OTU1 =

      2   &n= bsp;          HO ODU2 or OTU2 =

      3   &n= bsp;          HO ODU3 or OTU3 =

      4   &n= bsp;          HO ODU4 or OTU4 =

   &= nbsp;  5     = ;         OTU2e

      6   &n= bsp;          OTU3e1

      7   &n= bsp;          OTU3e2

      8-15   = ;        Reserved (for future use) =

 

Version 6:

OD(T)Uk field  = ;   Signal type of HO ODUk or OTUk

   -----------= --     ------------------------------

    =   0            =   Reserved (for future use)

    =   1           &= nbsp;  HO ODU1 or OTU1

    =   2           &= nbsp;  HO ODU2 or OTU2

    =   3           &= nbsp;  HO ODU3 or OTU3

    =   4           &= nbsp;  HO ODU4 or OTU4

    =   5-15           Res= erved (for future use)

 =

Can you please help me understand why OTU2e was remo= ved from OD(T)UK?

 

If we have a link that supports OTU2e and allows a 1= 1.095 rate, what should go in ODU(T)UK?

 

Thanks,

Ladan

 

--_000_01B828A5E4EE9748A7A3575B6CE345C66F86283ARCHEXMBP1fncnet_-- From prvs=69647c4706=lyong@ciena.com Mon Sep 9 10:28:25 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1911411E811F for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 10:28:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.965 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.965 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, J_CHICKENPOX_66=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SBaMUh1Y-BZ4 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 10:28:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0a-00103a01.pphosted.com (mx0a-00103a01.pphosted.com [67.231.144.234]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A7511E8118 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 10:28:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0000419.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by mx0a-00103a01.pphosted.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r89HQKd8012512; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 13:28:09 -0400 Received: from mdwexght02.ciena.com (LIN1-118-36-29.ciena.com [63.118.36.29]) by mx0a-00103a01.pphosted.com with ESMTP id 1epxvt1ceb-12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 09 Sep 2013 13:28:09 -0400 Received: from ONWVEXCHHT01.ciena.com (10.128.6.16) by MDWEXGHT02.ciena.com (10.4.140.213) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.298.1; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 13:28:04 -0400 Received: from ONWVEXCHMB05.ciena.com ([::1]) by ONWVEXCHHT01.ciena.com ([::1]) with mapi; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 13:27:44 -0400 From: "Ong, Lyndon" To: Lou Berger , CCAMP Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 13:27:41 -0400 Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Missing WSON IPR declarations Thread-Index: Ac6tUyhhQcnugmwhRUuN3O/lYq2QxgAEDBZAAAeQR+A= Message-ID: <9B8F4BBDF8AAA54693083BC8753AE3A721A66FAE@ONWVEXCHMB05.ciena.com> References: <522DB3BE.6000604@labn.net> <9B8F4BBDF8AAA54693083BC8753AE3A721A66D93@ONWVEXCHMB05.ciena.com> In-Reply-To: <9B8F4BBDF8AAA54693083BC8753AE3A721A66D93@ONWVEXCHMB05.ciena.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: SMEX-10.0.0.1412-7.000.1014-20138.000 X-TM-AS-Result: No--20.264800-0.000000-31 X-TM-AS-User-Approved-Sender: Yes X-TM-AS-User-Blocked-Sender: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-09-09_06:2013-09-09, 2013-09-09, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1309090091 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Missing WSON IPR declarations X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2013 17:28:25 -0000 "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" Lyndon To: diego.caviglia at ericsson.com, anders.gavler at acreo.se, jonas.marten= sson at acreo.se, i-nishioka at cb.jp.nec.com, pierre.peloso at alcatel-luc= ent.com, cyril.margaria at nsn.com, giomarti at cisco.com, ggalimbe at cisc= o.com, lyong at ciena.com, daniele.ceccarelli at ericsson.com, gregb at gro= tto-networking.com, leeyoung at huawei.com, danli at huawei.com, imajuku.wa= taru at lab.ntt.co.jp, hanjianrui at huawei.com=20 Subject: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode=20 From: Lou Berger =20 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:04:47 -0400=20 Cc: ccamp at ietf.org=20 Delivered-to: ccamp at ietfa.amsl.com=20 Dkim-signature: v=3D1; a=3Drsa-sha256; q=3Ddns/txt; c=3Drelaxed/relaxed; d= =3Dlabn.net; s=3Ddefault; h=3DContent-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Subjec= t:CC:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=3DoxCkszfHxzVB9q/B16EqdqKs+Ut= soRsep6szmlCA0/M=3D; b=3DbWj/bTGtDAtjzy1QVL+9EKdn7TLJgqjDkIg9f6TaBoA9QrVOqq= /nT2aKbAe64J7SVKuqqMt96pXuB5LNUcR1imQCn16oIVk76reVa4LXtTV0WX39KmMBdApXGlhBy= ZIi;=20 List-archive: =20 List-help: =20 List-id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group =20 List-post: =20 List-subscribe: , =20 List-unsubscribe: , =20 User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thu= nderbird/17.0.7=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. Thank you, CCAMP WG Chairs PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your response. From gyzhang@sina.com Mon Sep 9 19:25:41 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A0811E810A for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 19:25:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FROM_EXCESS_BASE64=1.456, FR_IMPORT_CSS=1.889, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SARE_SUB_ENC_UTF8=0.152] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id d25K3Q-1PuZ7 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 19:25:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2911-210.mail.sina.com.cn (mail2-160.sinamail.sina.com.cn [60.28.2.160]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id AC2B921F9C68 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 19:25:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown( HELO X220)([111.193.223.167]) by sina.com with ESMTP 10 Sep 2013 10:25:23 +0800 (CST) X-Sender: gyzhang@sina.com X-Auth-ID: gyzhang@sina.com X-SMAIL-MID: 30601511294895 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 10:25:21 +0800 From: "=?utf-8?B?R3VveWluZyBaaGFuZw==?=" To: "=?utf-8?B?TG91IEJlcmdlcg==?=" , "=?utf-8?B?WWV5YWJpbiAoWWFiaW4p?=" , "=?utf-8?B?Q2hlbm1pbmcgKE5XUmVzZWFyY2gp?=" , "=?utf-8?B?RmF0YWkgWmhhbmc=?=" , "=?utf-8?B?TGVleW91bmc=?=" , "=?utf-8?B?SGFuamlhbnJ1aQ==?=" , "=?utf-8?B?Z3JlZ2JAZ3JvdHRvLW5ldHdvcmtpbmcuY29t?=" , "=?utf-8?B?eHV5dW5iaW5AbWFpbC5yaXR0LmNvbS5jbg==?=" , "=?utf-8?B?emhhbmdndW95aW5nQG1haWwucml0dC5jb20uY24=?=" , "=?utf-8?B?TGlkYW4oRGFuKQ==?=" References: <51E83C58.6010602@labn.net>, , <576290786.09235@mail.ritt.com.cn> Message-ID: <201309101025204525212@sina.com> X-mailer: Foxmail 6, 15, 201, 22 [cn] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====003_Dragon262317102134_=====" Cc: =?utf-8?B?Y2NhbXBAaWV0Zi5vcmc=?= Subject: Re: [CCAMP] =?utf-8?q?Regarding_IPR_on_draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-general?= =?utf-8?q?-constraints-ospf-te?= X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 02:25:41 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=====003_Dragon262317102134_===== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft and the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules as follows: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=document_search&document_search=draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-general-constraints-ospf-te Guoying Zhang Research Institute of Telecommunications Transmission (RITT), China Academy of Telecom. Research (CATR), MIIT ----------------------------------------------------------------- Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] Fatai Zhang; Leeyoung; Hanjianrui; gregb@grotto-networking.com; xuyunbin@mail.ritt.com.cn; zhangguoying@mail.ritt.com.cn; Lidan (Dan); Chenming (NWResearch); Yeyabin (Yabin) ccamp@ietf.org Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-general-constraints-ospf-te Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? 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For more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. 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Ladan,

 

  You are welcome.  That bit is still valid since it in= dicates whether LO ODU (i.e., ODU2e) is supported or not. According to G.70= 9, ODU2e can be mapped to ODU3 or ODU4.

 

This is different from whether a lin= k support OTU2e or not.  


Regards,

Xian

 

From: Pickering, Ladan [mailto:Ladan.Pickering@us.fujitsu.c= om]
Sent: 2013=C4=EA9=D4=C29=C8=D5 22:34
To: Zhangxian (Xian)
Cc: ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: RE: gmpls-g.709-lmp-discovery Rev02 vs Rev06 - OTU2e

 

Hi Xian= ,

Thanks = for your reply. Do we still need to keep =A1=B0Flag F=A1=B1?

Flag F:= indicates whether LO ODU2e is supported.

&n= bsp;

Thanks,=

Ladan

&n= bsp;

From: Zhangxian (Xian) [mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 8:44 PM
To: Pickering, Ladan
Cc: ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: RE: gmpls-g.709-lmp-discovery Rev02 vs Rev06 - OTU2e

 

Hi, Ladan,

 

     The change made in the OTN LMP draft was= just reflecting what was agreed a while ago in CCAMP WG that only G.709 is= referenced.

 

As you probably already know that OTU= 2e is not supported in G.709( as the note states below Table 7-1 of the ver= sion published in Feb. 2012), but rather specified in G.sup43. That=A1=AFs why we do not cover it any more in the o= ur OTN LMP draft.

 

I hope this clarify your question.

 

Regards,<= o:p>

 

Xian=

 

 

From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org= ] On Behalf Of Pickering, Ladan
Sent: 2013=C4=EA9=D4=C27=C8= =D5 7:46
To: ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: [CCAMP] gmpls-g.709-lmp-discovery Rev02 vs Rev06 - OTU2e

 

Hi Xian,

I have noticed that in revision= 02 of the LMP draft, OTU2e was defined as a HO-ODU with a value of 5 under= OD(T)UK, but on rev 06 of this draft this has been removed, but  =A1= =B0Flag F=A1=B1 corresponding to ODU2e as a LO-ODU is still in rev 6.

 

Vers= ion 2:

OD(T)Uk field   =   Signal type of HO ODUk or OTUk

   ------------- = ;    ------------------------------

      = 0            &n= bsp; Reserved (for future use)

      = 1            &n= bsp; HO ODU1 or OTU1

      = 2            &n= bsp; HO ODU2 or OTU2

      = 3            &n= bsp; HO ODU3 or OTU3

      = 4            &n= bsp; HO ODU4 or OTU4

&nbs= p;     = 5            &n= bsp; OTU2e

      = 6            &n= bsp; OTU3e1

      = 7            &n= bsp; OTU3e2

      = 8-15           Reserved (= for future use)

 

Vers= ion 6:

OD(T)Uk f= ield     Signal type of HO ODUk or OTUk

 &nb= sp; -------------     ------------------------------

 &nb= sp;    0        &nbs= p;     Reserved (for future use)

 &nb= sp;    1        &nbs= p;     HO ODU1 or OTU1

 &nb= sp;    2        &nbs= p;     HO ODU2 or OTU2

 &nb= sp;    3        &nbs= p;     HO ODU3 or OTU3

 &nb= sp;    4        &nbs= p;     HO ODU4 or OTU4

 &nb= sp;    5-15        &= nbsp;  Reserved (for future use)

 

Can you please help me understa= nd why OTU2e was removed from OD(T)UK?

 

If we have a link that supports= OTU2e and allows a 11.095 rate, what should go in ODU(T)UK?

 

Thanks,

Ladan

 

--_000_C636AF2FA540124E9B9ACB5A6BECCE6B18A183F1szxeml510mbxchi_-- From eve.varma@alcatel-lucent.com Wed Sep 11 06:28:27 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB5B11E8261 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 06:28:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lyJ9qsowe1m2 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 06:28:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ihemail1.lucent.com (ihemail1.lucent.com [135.245.0.33]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B730B11E8265 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 06:28:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from us70tusmtp2.zam.alcatel-lucent.com (h135-5-2-64.lucent.com [135.5.2.64]) by ihemail1.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id r8BDS7sD008113 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 11 Sep 2013 08:28:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from US70UWXCHHUB02.zam.alcatel-lucent.com (us70uwxchhub02.zam.alcatel-lucent.com [135.5.2.49]) by us70tusmtp2.zam.alcatel-lucent.com (GMO) with ESMTP id r8BDRwEQ000610 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:28:06 -0400 Received: from US70UWXCHMBA03.zam.alcatel-lucent.com ([169.254.9.66]) by US70UWXCHHUB02.zam.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.5.2.49]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:28:06 -0400 From: "Varma, Eve L (Eve)" To: "'BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A'" Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk Thread-Index: AQF383DJuOr2os8rT4SGolFrdggyBJpEElQggCnr8hA= Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 13:28:05 +0000 Message-ID: <6D32668528F93D449A073F45707153D80C05D2F2@US70UWXCHMBA03.zam.alcatel-lucent.com> References: <013901ce99fc$f2c68d70$d853a850$@olddog.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <013901ce99fc$f2c68d70$d853a850$@olddog.co.uk> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.5.27.18] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_6D32668528F93D449A073F45707153D80C05D2F2US70UWXCHMBA03z_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.33 Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 13:28:28 -0000 --_000_6D32668528F93D449A073F45707153D80C05D2F2US70UWXCHMBA03z_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, Sorry to be late! No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Best regards, Eve From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of B= RUNGARD, DEBORAH A Sent: 09 August 2013 19:11 To: draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk@tools.ietf.org Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) As part of the preparation for WG document adoption: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. Thank you, CCAMP WG Chairs PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your response. --_000_6D32668528F93D449A073F45707153D80C05D2F2US70UWXCHMBA03z_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear all,

 

Sorry to be late!

 

No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies= to this draft.

 

Best regards,

Eve

 <= /p>

From: ccamp-bo= unces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A
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  Please state eith= er:

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   If yes to t= he above, please state either:

 =

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--_000_6D32668528F93D449A073F45707153D80C05D2F2US70UWXCHMBA03z_-- From agmalis@gmail.com Wed Sep 11 06:29:39 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8608E11E818C for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 06:29:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.766 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.766 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.833, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EqZYTsWwH11w for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 06:29:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x234.google.com (mail-wi0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::234]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4255611E8184 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 06:29:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f180.google.com with SMTP id hj3so2190596wib.1 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 06:29:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=1vnNqTLrCXQ2+ZEb5npayeIgwHtWUNSiu86M3vz1HfA=; b=Ih0CAzCGfLGO4aNE1N0vUQsJ2qFUQcZqlj7TVAalQuPx5cnzPF2wRdC8r8q9MWAoZ+ +q7J9yFPklIHSzWpbhZDpNFKo/et8M5TjTUm8hL6Q81Qz7dMjTto4CiRSYNZI3wZNGGU dXVp+QlbYfIxIjzPQ/R1lXO8k6oIfN++UpNeZ1c1sCnqxQ5WVPTAJVe6Ofl1hHDuMLG5 blZ7uw2Orjqk0ohYKUUZzQWS6mRqn6E5bM9fhJ83uNfQmSIfsvB7y+BKBFzvUnKJaUXX s6nNvzmwJHHubNgf+YtxC99HXGx3Z9nh9JR0ZPuGQ1JNrUpJbWM0CAgXDWOPzJQgxU/0 +yOw== X-Received: by 10.180.184.107 with SMTP id et11mr17544558wic.60.1378906171094; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 06:29:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.54.6 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 06:29:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:29:11 -0400 Message-ID: To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c227ee81c6c204e61b9c16 Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" , "draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 13:29:39 -0000 --001a11c227ee81c6c204e61b9c16 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Deborah, No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Cheers, Andy On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 2:10 PM, BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A wrote: > Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) > > As part of the preparation for WG document adoption: > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? > > Please state either: > > "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" > or > "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? > > If yes to the above, please state either: > > "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" > or > "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" > > If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think > appropriate. > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the > above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are > aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next > stage until a response has been received from each author and listed > contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS > MESSAGE'S TO LINES. > > If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules > which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of > others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any > contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more > information, please see the RFCs listed above and > *http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty* > . > > Thank you, > CCAMP WG Chairs > > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your > response. > > > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > --001a11c227ee81c6c204e61b9c16 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Deborah,

No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

Cheers,
Andy


On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 2:10 PM, BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A <= span dir=3D"ltr"><db= 3546@att.com> wrote:
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contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rule= s
which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of
others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in an= y
contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR.=A0 For mor= e
information, please see the RFCs listed above and
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No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft


Thanks,
Dieter


On 09.08.2013 20:10, BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A wrote:
Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP)
 
As part of the preparation for WG document adoption:
 
Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above?
 
  Please state either:
 
  "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
  or
  "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"
 
If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?
 
   If yes to the above, please state either:
 
  "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"
  or
  "No, the IPR has not been disclosed"
 
  If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think
  appropriate.
 
If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the
above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are
aware of any relevant IPR.  This document will not advance to the next
stage until a response has been received from each author and listed
contributor.  NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS
MESSAGE'S TO LINES.
 
If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or
contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules
which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of
others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any
contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR.  For more
information, please see the RFCs listed above and
 
Thank you,
CCAMP WG Chairs
 
PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your
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Hi=20 All:
 
"No, I'm not aware of an= y IPR that=20 applies to this draft"
 
Best=20 wishes, Yao

From:= =20 BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A [mailto:db3546@att.com]
Sent: Saturday, Aug= ust=20 10, 2013 2:11 AM
To:=20 draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk@tools.ietf.org
Cc:=20 ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: Regarding IPR on=20 draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk

 

Authors,=20 Contributors, (CCAMP)

 =

As part of = the=20 preparation for WG document adoption:

 =

Are you awa= re of=20 any IPR that applies to draft identified above?

 =

  Plea= se state=20 either:

 =

  "No,= I'm not=20 aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"

 =20 or

  "Yes= , I'm=20 aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

 =

If so, has = this IPR=20 been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules

(see RFCs 3= 979,=20 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?

 =

  = ; If yes=20 to the above, please state either:

 =

  "Yes= , the=20 IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR=20 rules"

 =20 or

  "No,= the IPR=20 has not been disclosed"

 =

  If y= ou=20 answer no, please provide any additional details you=20 think

 =20 appropriate.

 =

If you are = listed=20 as a document author or contributor please answer=20 the

above by re= sponding=20 to this email regardless of whether or not you are

aware of an= y=20 relevant IPR.  This document will not advance to the=20 next

stage until= a=20 response has been received from each author and=20 listed

contributor= . =20 NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS

MESSAGE'S T= O=20 LINES.

 =

If you are = on the=20 CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author=20 or

contributor= , we=20 remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR=20 rules

which encou= rages=20 you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of

others on a= n IETF=20 contribution, or to refrain from participating in=20 any

contributio= n or=20 discussion related to your undisclosed IPR.  For=20 more

information= , please=20 see the RFCs listed above and

http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/Intellectu= alProperty.

 =

Thank=20 you,

CCAMP WG=20 Chairs

 =

PS Please i= nclude=20 all listed in the headers of this message in your

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 --Boundary_(ID_XA/RDmW+m2T1YYC4BhcEew)-- From gregb@grotto-networking.com Wed Sep 11 09:21:45 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59F5121F9CF3 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:21:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jGKJ7W4XzktD for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.webfaction.com (mail6.webfaction.com [74.55.86.74]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8222211E80FF for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:20:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.124] (c-67-170-243-110.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.170.243.110]) by smtp.webfaction.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A6B2129114 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:20:31 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <52309837.8000104@grotto-networking.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:20:07 -0700 From: Greg Bernstein User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ccamp@ietf.org References: <522DB3BE.6000604@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <522DB3BE.6000604@labn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Missing WSON IPR declarations -- Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-info X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:21:45 -0000 Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft and the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules as follows: draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-info,http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=document_search&id_document_tag=draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-info Greg B. On 9/9/2013 4:40 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > WSON Authors/Contributors, > > If you have not yet responded to the IPR statement requests made in > messages listed below, please do so ASAP. You are holding up WG process! > > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14977.html > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14976.html > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14979.html > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14978.html > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14980.html > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14981.html > > Thank you, > Lou > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > -- =================================================== Dr Greg Bernstein, Grotto Networking (510) 573-2237 From gregb@grotto-networking.com Wed Sep 11 09:23:23 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B94F611E81CF for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:23:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EJwVW5FpAJOF for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:23:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.webfaction.com (mail6.webfaction.com [74.55.86.74]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32CC021E813F for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.124] (c-67-170-243-110.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.170.243.110]) by smtp.webfaction.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1192B2129C11 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:22:12 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <5230989C.4030700@grotto-networking.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:21:48 -0700 From: Greg Bernstein User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ccamp@ietf.org References: <522DB3BE.6000604@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <522DB3BE.6000604@labn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Missing WSON IPR declarations -- Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-general-constraint-encode X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:23:26 -0000 No, I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Greg B. On 9/9/2013 4:40 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > WSON Authors/Contributors, > > If you have not yet responded to the IPR statement requests made in > messages listed below, please do so ASAP. You are holding up WG process! > > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14977.html > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14976.html > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14979.html > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14978.html > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14980.html > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14981.html > > Thank you, > Lou > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > -- =================================================== Dr Greg Bernstein, Grotto Networking (510) 573-2237 From gregb@grotto-networking.com Wed Sep 11 09:25:39 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72FFC11E81D2 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:25:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Suykqo16E51i for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.webfaction.com (mail6.webfaction.com [74.55.86.74]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 777FD11E81E9 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.124] (c-67-170-243-110.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.170.243.110]) by smtp.webfaction.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2060C213485D for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:23:49 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <523098FD.7000500@grotto-networking.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:23:25 -0700 From: Greg Bernstein User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ccamp@ietf.org References: <522DB3BE.6000604@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <522DB3BE.6000604@labn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Missing WSON IPR declarations -- Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-general-constraints-ospf-te X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:25:39 -0000 Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft and the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules as follows: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-general-constraints-ospf-te,https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=document_search&document_search=draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-general-constraints-ospf-te Greg B. On 9/9/2013 4:40 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > WSON Authors/Contributors, > > If you have not yet responded to the IPR statement requests made in > messages listed below, please do so ASAP. You are holding up WG process! > > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14977.html > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14976.html > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14979.html > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14978.html > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14980.html > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14981.html > > Thank you, > Lou > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > -- =================================================== Dr Greg Bernstein, Grotto Networking (510) 573-2237 From gregb@grotto-networking.com Wed Sep 11 09:26:50 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E24121F9F4F for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:26:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3FUa5ux99XyI for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:26:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.webfaction.com (mail6.webfaction.com [74.55.86.74]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED7611E8192 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:25:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.124] (c-67-170-243-110.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.170.243.110]) by smtp.webfaction.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 674C3215EEC6 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:25:12 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <52309950.4060204@grotto-networking.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:24:48 -0700 From: Greg Bernstein User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ccamp@ietf.org References: <522DB3BE.6000604@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <522DB3BE.6000604@labn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Missing WSON IPR declarations -- Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:26:50 -0000 No, I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Greg B. On 9/9/2013 4:40 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > WSON Authors/Contributors, > > If you have not yet responded to the IPR statement requests made in > messages listed below, please do so ASAP. You are holding up WG process! > > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14977.html > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14976.html > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14979.html > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14978.html > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14980.html > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14981.html > > Thank you, > Lou > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > -- =================================================== Dr Greg Bernstein, Grotto Networking (510) 573-2237 From gregb@grotto-networking.com Wed Sep 11 09:28:17 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DEAF21F9981 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:28:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Xkeevtvb2dvV for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:28:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.webfaction.com (mail6.webfaction.com [74.55.86.74]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE1EC11E81D2 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.124] (c-67-170-243-110.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.170.243.110]) by smtp.webfaction.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687DC2125D77 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:27:15 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <523099CB.10507@grotto-networking.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:26:51 -0700 From: Greg Bernstein User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ccamp@ietf.org References: <522DB3BE.6000604@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <522DB3BE.6000604@labn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Missing WSON IPR declarations -- Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility-ospf X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:28:17 -0000 Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft and the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules as follows: draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility-ospf,https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=document_search&document_search=draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility-ospf Greg B. On 9/9/2013 4:40 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > WSON Authors/Contributors, > > If you have not yet responded to the IPR statement requests made in > messages listed below, please do so ASAP. You are holding up WG process! > > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14977.html > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14976.html > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14979.html > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14978.html > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14980.html > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14981.html > > Thank you, > Lou > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > -- =================================================== Dr Greg Bernstein, Grotto Networking (510) 573-2237 From gregb@grotto-networking.com Wed Sep 11 09:28:59 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40FE021F9B12 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:28:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c0IthfqoC4fu for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.webfaction.com (mail6.webfaction.com [74.55.86.74]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8E921F9BC3 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:28:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.124] (c-67-170-243-110.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.170.243.110]) by smtp.webfaction.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE9E59A374E for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:28:54 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <52309A2E.1020506@grotto-networking.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 09:28:30 -0700 From: Greg Bernstein User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ccamp@ietf.org References: <522DB3BE.6000604@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <522DB3BE.6000604@labn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Missing WSON IPR declarations -- Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:28:59 -0000 No, I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Greg B. On 9/9/2013 4:40 AM, Lou Berger wrote: > WSON Authors/Contributors, > > If you have not yet responded to the IPR statement requests made in > messages listed below, please do so ASAP. You are holding up WG process! > > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14977.html > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14976.html > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14979.html > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14978.html > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14980.html > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg14981.html > > Thank you, > Lou > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > -- =================================================== Dr Greg Bernstein, Grotto Networking (510) 573-2237 From prvs=69668d3544=lyong@ciena.com Wed Sep 11 13:44:44 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CDCF21F9D50 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 13:44:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.814 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.814 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, J_CHICKENPOX_66=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8UeyO93z7FNs for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 13:44:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0b-00103a01.pphosted.com (mx0b-00103a01.pphosted.com [67.231.152.227]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4717021F9D7B for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 13:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0002317.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by m0002317.ppops.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r8BKRJNE029411 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 13:44:37 -0700 Received: from mdwvexchht01.ciena.com (LIN1-118-36-28.ciena.com [63.118.36.28]) by mx0b-00103a01.pphosted.com with ESMTP id 1et420yb05-1 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 13:44:36 -0700 Received: from MDWVEXCHHT02.ciena.com (10.4.156.176) by MDWVEXCHHT01.ciena.com (10.4.156.175) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.298.1; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:44:35 -0400 Received: from ONWVEXCHHT02.ciena.com (10.128.6.17) by MDWVEXCHHT02.ciena.com (10.4.156.176) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.298.1; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:44:35 -0400 Received: from ONWVEXCHMB05.ciena.com ([::1]) by ONWVEXCHHT02.ciena.com ([::1]) with mapi; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:44:34 -0400 From: "Ong, Lyndon" To: "ccamp@ietf.org" Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:44:32 -0400 Thread-Topic: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-info Thread-Index: Ac6vL5W3CxEQelrwQLSSH2umKexbMA== Message-ID: <9B8F4BBDF8AAA54693083BC8753AE3A721AEE743@ONWVEXCHMB05.ciena.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_9B8F4BBDF8AAA54693083BC8753AE3A721AEE743ONWVEXCHMB05cie_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: SMEX-10.0.0.1412-7.000.1014-20144.002 X-TM-AS-Result: No--23.255000-8.000000-31 X-TM-AS-User-Approved-Sender: No X-TM-AS-User-Blocked-Sender: No X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-09-11_06:2013-09-11, 2013-09-11, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1309110119 Subject: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-info X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 20:44:44 -0000 --_000_9B8F4BBDF8AAA54693083BC8753AE3A721AEE743ONWVEXCHMB05cie_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Lyndon * To: diego.caviglia at ericsson.com, anders.gavler at acreo.se, jonas.mar= tensson at acreo.se, i-nishioka at c= b.jp.nec.com, lyong at ciena.com, cyril.margaria at nsn.com
------=_NextPart_000_0233_01CEB1E5.91686C50-- From venugopalreddyk@huawei.com Sun Sep 15 21:47:16 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3DD321F9C13 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 21:47:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.109 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.109 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jGAa-Vu0T9qU for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 21:47:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A085521F85EF for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 21:47:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml204-edg.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id AXV14234; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 04:47:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML403-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.217) by lhreml204-edg.china.huawei.com (172.18.7.223) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 05:46:40 +0100 Received: from SZXEML452-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.67.195) by lhreml403-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.217) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 05:47:01 +0100 Received: from blrprnc09ns (10.18.96.98) by szxeml452-hub.china.huawei.com (10.82.67.195) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.146.0; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:46:54 +0800 From: KONDREDDY VENUGOPAL REDDY To: "'BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A'" , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 10:16:53 +0530 Message-ID: <005901ceb297$c475bfa0$4d613ee0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005A_01CEB2C5.DE2DFBA0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac6v0EWkCsib5OQBQaa3q+ccLl38eQCx13vw Content-Language: en-us X-Originating-IP: [10.18.96.98] X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects-02 a WG document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 04:47:16 -0000 ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01CEB2C5.DE2DFBA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Support (as co-author) Regards, Venu From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 9:24 PM To: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects-02 a WG document All, This is to start a two week poll on making draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects-02 a ccamp working group document. Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state your technical reservations with the document. The poll ends Thursday, Sept. 26th. Thanks, Deborah and Lou ------=_NextPart_000_005A_01CEB2C5.DE2DFBA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Support (as co-author)

 

Regards,

Venu

 

From:= = ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of = BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 = 9:24 PM
To: ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: [CCAMP] Poll on = making draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects-02 a WG = document

 

All,

 =

This is to = start a two week poll on making = draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects-02 a ccamp working group = document. Please send email to the list indicating = “yes/support” or “no/do not support”. If = indicating no, please state your technical reservations with the = document.

 =

The poll = ends Thursday, Sept. 26th.

 =

Thanks,

Deborah = and Lou

 =

------=_NextPart_000_005A_01CEB2C5.DE2DFBA0-- From zhang.xian@huawei.com Sun Sep 15 22:52:36 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 791B711E81F9 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 22:52:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.395 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.395 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_BASE64_TEXT=1.753, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w89XUvoc5Cxk for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 22:52:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1EF11E8210 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 22:52:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml204-edg.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id AXV18317; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 05:52:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML402-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.241) by lhreml204-edg.china.huawei.com (172.18.7.223) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 06:51:54 +0100 Received: from SZXEML414-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.67.153) by lhreml402-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.241) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 06:52:15 +0100 Received: from SZXEML510-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.3.70]) by SZXEML414-HUB.china.huawei.com ([10.82.67.153]) with mapi id 14.03.0146.000; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 13:52:09 +0800 From: "Zhangxian (Xian)" To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" , "ccamp@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects-02 a WG document Thread-Index: Ac6v0EWkCsib5OQBQaa3q+ccLl38eQBVOizw Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 05:52:08 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.66.104.209] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_C636AF2FA540124E9B9ACB5A6BECCE6B18A2C248szxeml510mbxchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects-02 a WG document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 05:52:36 -0000 --_000_C636AF2FA540124E9B9ACB5A6BECCE6B18A2C248szxeml510mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 U3VwcG9ydC4NCg0KUmVnYXJkcywNClhpYW4NCg0KRnJvbTogY2NhbXAtYm91bmNlc0BpZXRmLm9y ZyBbbWFpbHRvOmNjYW1wLWJvdW5jZXNAaWV0Zi5vcmddIE9uIEJlaGFsZiBPZiBCUlVOR0FSRCwg REVCT1JBSCBBDQpTZW50OiAyMDEzxOo51MIxMsjVIDIzOjU0DQpUbzogY2NhbXBAaWV0Zi5vcmcN ClN1YmplY3Q6IFtDQ0FNUF0gUG9sbCBvbiBtYWtpbmcgZHJhZnQtZGhvZHktY2NhbXAtcnN2cC10 ZS1kb21haW4tc3Vib2JqZWN0cy0wMiBhIFdHIGRvY3VtZW50DQoNCkFsbCwNCg0KVGhpcyBpcyB0 byBzdGFydCBhIHR3byB3ZWVrIHBvbGwgb24gbWFraW5nIGRyYWZ0LWRob2R5LWNjYW1wLXJzdnAt dGUtZG9tYWluLXN1Ym9iamVjdHMtMDIgYSBjY2FtcCB3b3JraW5nIGdyb3VwIGRvY3VtZW50LiBQ bGVhc2Ugc2VuZCBlbWFpbCB0byB0aGUgbGlzdCBpbmRpY2F0aW5nIKGweWVzL3N1cHBvcnShsSBv ciChsG5vL2RvIG5vdCBzdXBwb3J0obEuIElmIGluZGljYXRpbmcgbm8sIHBsZWFzZSBzdGF0ZSB5 b3VyIHRlY2huaWNhbCByZXNlcnZhdGlvbnMgd2l0aCB0aGUgZG9jdW1lbnQuDQoNClRoZSBwb2xs IGVuZHMgVGh1cnNkYXksIFNlcHQuIDI2dGguDQoNClRoYW5rcywNCkRlYm9yYWggYW5kIExvdQ0K DQo= --_000_C636AF2FA540124E9B9ACB5A6BECCE6B18A2C248szxeml510mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Regards,

Xian<= /o:p>

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From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org= ] On Behalf Of BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A
Sent: 2013=C4=EA9=D4=C212=C8= =D5 23:54
To: ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-sub= objects-02 a WG document

 

All,

 =

This is to start a two w= eek poll on making draft-dhody-ccamp-rsvp-te-domain-subobjects-02 a ccamp w= orking group document. Please send email to the list indicating =A1=B0yes/support=A1=B1 or =A1=B0no/do not support=A1=B1. If indicating no= , please state your technical reservations with the document.

 =

The poll ends Thursday, = Sept. 26th.

 =

Thanks,

Deborah and Lou

 =

--_000_C636AF2FA540124E9B9ACB5A6BECCE6B18A2C248szxeml510mbxchi_-- From db3546@att.com Mon Sep 16 11:10:59 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 662C911E8139 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 11:10:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.300, BAYES_50=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Eqm6AndfErUR for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 11:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbfkord-smmo05.seg.att.com (nbfkord-smmo05.seg.att.com [209.65.160.92]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51BB011E82CD for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 11:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown [144.160.229.24] (EHLO alpi155.enaf.aldc.att.com) by nbfkord-smmo05.seg.att.com(mxl_mta-6.15.0-1) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id ca947325.0.3246094.00-371.9013182.nbfkord-smmo05.seg.att.com (envelope-from ); Mon, 16 Sep 2013 18:10:53 +0000 (UTC) X-MXL-Hash: 523749ad5b8336bd-ddd249e3bdf7f48b71f671100248adbdae9047c7 Received: from enaf.aldc.att.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by alpi155.enaf.aldc.att.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r8GIAq4h013247 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 14:10:52 -0400 Received: from mlpi408.sfdc.sbc.com (mlpi408.sfdc.sbc.com [130.9.128.240]) by alpi155.enaf.aldc.att.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r8GIAdre013056 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 14:10:48 -0400 Received: from MISOUT7MSGHUB9D.ITServices.sbc.com (MISOUT7MSGHUB9D.itservices.sbc.com [144.151.223.93]) by mlpi408.sfdc.sbc.com (RSA Interceptor) for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 18:10:26 GMT Received: from MISOUT7MSGUSR9O.ITServices.sbc.com ([144.151.223.75]) by MISOUT7MSGHUB9D.ITServices.sbc.com ([144.151.223.93]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 14:10:26 -0400 From: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" To: "ccamp@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Missing lsp-diversity IPR declarations Thread-Index: Ac6vM0I0hn20G7EaSR+vjuNvzZ3ZNABUKI4AAA1mALAAaD7jgAArXGIQ Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 18:10:25 +0000 Message-ID: References: <5232D8A8.10309@cisco.com> <5235EE27.4050609@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <5235EE27.4050609@cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.16.234.214] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-RSA-Inspected: yes X-RSA-Classifications: public X-Spam: [F=0.2000000000; CM=0.500; S=0.200(2010122901)] X-MAIL-FROM: X-SOURCE-IP: [144.160.229.24] X-AnalysisOut: [v=2.0 cv=dr9s/Sc4 c=1 sm=0 a=dhB6nF3YHL5t/Ixux6cINA==:17 a] X-AnalysisOut: [=RWEAq7CW3jcA:10 a=Na600suyuD0A:10 a=ofMgfj31e3cA:10 a=BLc] X-AnalysisOut: [eEmwcHowA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=zQP7CpKOAAAA:8 a=XIqpo32R] X-AnalysisOut: [AAAA:8 a=ZeRHvQsBgHgA:10 a=AUd_NHdVAAAA:8 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8] X-AnalysisOut: [ a=Uu6QLcgZZc6Cox56gSsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=9idFoXK0pAAA] X-AnalysisOut: [:10 a=JfD0Fch1gWkA:10 a=p3EP0m9KMXkA:10] Subject: [CCAMP] FW: Missing lsp-diversity IPR declarations X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 18:10:59 -0000 Forwarding- -----Original Message----- From: Clarence Filsfils [mailto:cfilsfil@cisco.com]=20 Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 1:28 PM To: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A Cc: ruediger.kunze@telekom.de Subject: Re: Missing lsp-diversity IPR declarations I am not subscribed, please fwd Cheers, Clarence On 13.09.13 21:43, BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A wrote: > Hi Clarence, > > You need to reply on the ccamp list - if you're not subscribed, let me kn= ow and I'll forward. > Thanks- > Deborah > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Clarence Filsfils [mailto:cfilsfil@cisco.com] > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 5:20 AM > To: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A > Cc: Zafar Ali (zali); George Swallow (swallow@cisco.com); ogerstel@cisco.= com; Gabriele Maria Galimberti (ggalimbe) (ggalimbe@cisco.com); ruediger.ku= nze@telekom.de > Subject: Re: Missing lsp-diversity IPR declarations > > Deborah, > > I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft. > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1943/ > > Cheers > > Clarence > > > On 11.09.13 23:09, BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A wrote: >> Authors, >> With vacations, you may have missed this email. I only have responses >> from Matt, Kenji, and Julien. Can you please respond? >> _http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg15115.html_ >> Thanks, >> Deborah > --=20 Please excuse brief mail, broken wrist From db3546@att.com Mon Sep 16 12:35:23 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5145411E82F9 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:35:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.165 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.165 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.433, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9H-F4Osp4r9m for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:35:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbfkord-smmo07.seg.att.com (nbfkord-smmo07.seg.att.com [209.65.160.93]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E9D11E8288 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown [144.160.229.24] (EHLO alpi155.enaf.aldc.att.com) by nbfkord-smmo07.seg.att.com(mxl_mta-6.15.0-1) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id 17d57325.0.2384881.00-417.6585994.nbfkord-smmo07.seg.att.com (envelope-from ); Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:35:13 +0000 (UTC) X-MXL-Hash: 52375d7158b4416a-09c96aa9218dd120bb11e4947714214d14efb339 Received: from enaf.aldc.att.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by alpi155.enaf.aldc.att.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r8GJZC2q022802 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 15:35:12 -0400 Received: from mlpi409.sfdc.sbc.com (mlpi409.sfdc.sbc.com [130.9.128.241]) by alpi155.enaf.aldc.att.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r8GJZ2on022648 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 15:35:09 -0400 Received: from MISOUT7MSGHUB9D.ITServices.sbc.com (MISOUT7MSGHUB9D.itservices.sbc.com [144.151.223.93]) by mlpi409.sfdc.sbc.com (RSA Interceptor) for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:34:46 GMT Received: from MISOUT7MSGUSR9O.ITServices.sbc.com ([144.151.223.75]) by MISOUT7MSGHUB9D.ITServices.sbc.com ([144.151.223.93]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 15:34:46 -0400 From: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" To: "ccamp@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a WG document Thread-Index: Ac6zE8vTfoo8sCH9Q7+L8sMAjGZ8gg== Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:34:46 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.16.234.214] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_F64C10EAA68C8044B33656FA214632C80C0ABC93MISOUT7MSGUSR9O_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-RSA-Inspected: yes X-RSA-Classifications: public X-Spam: [F=0.2000000000; CM=0.500; S=0.200(2010122901)] X-MAIL-FROM: X-SOURCE-IP: [144.160.229.24] X-AnalysisOut: [v=2.0 cv=ONCQK1mB c=1 sm=0 a=dhB6nF3YHL5t/Ixux6cINA==:17 a] X-AnalysisOut: [=RWEAq7CW3jcA:10 a=otv6EIRVBO0A:10 a=ofMgfj31e3cA:10 a=fLw] X-AnalysisOut: [4UhyI6KIA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=zQP7CpKOAAAA:8 a=XIqpo32R] X-AnalysisOut: [AAAA:8 a=qe1aT-KW0xYA:10 a=6395D88C4xZvPChkB50A:9 a=CjuIK1] X-AnalysisOut: [q_8ugA:10 a=l6X5qLTJKwMA:10 a=fgWKQcTQ8WoA:10 a=aACkfOz4Do] X-AnalysisOut: [sXwLbUK9UA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=KAVUT2C] X-AnalysisOut: [z-VshS24Q:21] Subject: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a WG document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:35:24 -0000 --_000_F64C10EAA68C8044B33656FA214632C80C0ABC93MISOUT7MSGUSR9O_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All, This is to start a two week poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-= fwk-03 a ccamp working group document. Please send email to the list indica= ting "yes/support" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state y= our technical reservations with the document. The poll ends Monday, September 30th. Thanks, Deborah and Lou --_000_F64C10EAA68C8044B33656FA214632C80C0ABC93MISOUT7MSGUSR9O_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All,
 
This is to start a two week poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-= grid-fwk-03 a ccamp working group document. Please send email to the list i= ndicating “yes/support” or “no/do not support”. If = indicating no, please state your technical reservations with the document.
 
The poll ends Monday, September 30th.
 
Thanks,
Deborah and Lou
 
 
 --_000_F64C10EAA68C8044B33656FA214632C80C0ABC93MISOUT7MSGUSR9O_-- From agmalis@gmail.com Mon Sep 16 12:38:10 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C8B11E830D for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:38:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.183 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.183 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.417, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z+UTXNBOxyw9 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:38:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x232.google.com (mail-wi0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::232]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9B221F9BF1 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:38:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f178.google.com with SMTP id hn9so3988470wib.5 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:38:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HnK9x9zV8r+gqg5k65DzPZPS42aEltghoz2Ulwtqc0I=; b=rMQqiZwfPezH+rY3g3XnlJDE3A0lo3H+jvzIvrWPk3puFVw2QYFGxSWlvE5fiy7tUb o+kFSKpq2KkqWxxc2ZS3MhxxZzJ0nuOPifM6dXs92K2HtJKyn73nBrrPKOFGBPB0xyms SztlrxiJjd8fsScNNtC7OlcrkAzVnMeq34qzTR0DWiF91lcQcHeu/AKZDdkgQFbjHhSc Qu6Qgol/u0nga/yDimvCJK2xyGjkok/jgap4AHp8H4P0EV08nK5rNQHTfuSHKupw2z0Z Jsx7iv5jN9fS+br86hnAIkk1UdnOZr1LuRlYtnF5IZAwDb+fa1B0ULLvmjoxeamtFuVy tDVg== X-Received: by 10.194.11.38 with SMTP id n6mr24357892wjb.25.1379360284444; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:38:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.54.6 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:37:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 15:37:44 -0400 Message-ID: To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a WG document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:38:11 -0000 yes/support On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 3:34 PM, BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A wrote= : > All, > > This is to start a two week poll on making > draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a ccamp working group document. > Please send email to the list indicating =93yes/support=94 or =93no/do no= t > support=94. If indicating no, please state your technical reservations wi= th > the document. > > The poll ends Monday, September 30th. > > Thanks, > Deborah and Lou From leeyoung@huawei.com Mon Sep 16 12:43:54 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA0EC11E8198 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:43:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qf2vAFORL3n1 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:43:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F1E21F9477 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml204-edg.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.5-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id AVN27558; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:43:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML406-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.243) by lhreml204-edg.china.huawei.com (172.18.7.223) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 20:43:18 +0100 Received: from DFWEML408-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.193.5.134) by lhreml406-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.243) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 20:43:41 +0100 Received: from dfweml511-mbs.china.huawei.com ([169.254.15.10]) by dfweml408-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.193.5.134]) with mapi id 14.03.0146.000; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:43:37 -0700 From: Leeyoung To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" , "ccamp@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a WG document Thread-Index: Ac6zE8vTfoo8sCH9Q7+L8sMAjGZ8ggAATpSw Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:43:37 +0000 Message-ID: <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E17291C9621@dfweml511-mbs.china.huawei.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.192.11.211] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E17291C9621dfweml511mbschi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a WG document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:43:54 -0000 --_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E17291C9621dfweml511mbschi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Support. Young From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of B= RUNGARD, DEBORAH A Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 2:35 PM To: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a WG= document All, This is to start a two week poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-= fwk-03 a ccamp working group document. Please send email to the list indica= ting "yes/support" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state y= our technical reservations with the document. The poll ends Monday, September 30th. Thanks, Deborah and Lou --_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E17291C9621dfweml511mbschi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Support.

 <= /p>

Young

 <= /p>

From: ccamp-bo= unces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 2:35 PM
To: ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-= 03 a WG document

 

All,

 

This is to start a two week poll on mak= ing draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a ccamp working group document. = Please send email to the list indicating “yes/support” or “no/do not support”. If indicating no, please state your techn= ical reservations with the document.

 

The poll ends Monday, September 30th.

 

Thanks,

Deborah and Lou

 

 

--_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E17291C9621dfweml511mbschi_-- From ramon.casellas@cttc.es Mon Sep 16 12:43:54 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB6221F999B for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:43:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jm3EUFuZ3Pb9 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:43:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from navarro.puc.rediris.es (navarro.puc.rediris.es [IPv6:2001:720:418:ca01::131]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B86221F8FF8 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:43:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [84.88.62.208] (helo=leo) by navarro.puc.rediris.es with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1VLei5-0000p0-Rg for ccamp@ietf.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 21:43:49 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.123] (62.83.140.15.dyn.user.ono.com [62.83.140.15]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by leo (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 98FA01FE58 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 21:43:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-From: ramon.casellas@cttc.es Message-ID: <52375F72.40108@cttc.es> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 21:43:46 +0200 From: Ramon Casellas User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ccamp@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020809070205060406010605" X-Spamina-Bogosity: Ham Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a WG document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:43:54 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020809070205060406010605 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > This is to start a two week poll on making > draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a ccamp working group document. > Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not > support". If indicating no, please state your technical reservations > with the document. Yes, support (as draft editor) thanks R. --------------020809070205060406010605 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
This is to start a two week poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a ccamp working group document. Please send email to the list indicating “yes/support” or “no/do not support”. If indicating no, please state your technical reservations with the document.

Yes, support (as draft editor)
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Yes / Support (as coauthor).

Best Regards,

Oscar<= /div>

De: <BRUNGARD>, DEBORAH A BRU= NGARD <db3546@att.com>
Fecha: lunes, 16 de septiembre de 2= 013 21:34
Para: CCAMP <ccamp@ietf.org>
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All,
 
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The poll ends Monday, September 30th.
 
Thanks,
Deborah and Lou
 
 


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 --Boundary_(ID_Gta5D3B7+3WC+RE2C3zyqw)-- From daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com Mon Sep 16 15:10:33 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FD8E11E81D0 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 15:10:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.948 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.948 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Wk2X-95Iah05 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 15:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw2.ericsson.se (mailgw2.ericsson.se [193.180.251.37]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13ED711E8185 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 15:10:26 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb25-b7eff8e000000eda-28-523781d105b4 Received: from ESESSHC013.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.124]) by mailgw2.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id C0.AC.03802.1D187325; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 00:10:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ESESSMB301.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.119]) by ESESSHC013.ericsson.se ([153.88.183.57]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 00:10:25 +0200 From: Daniele Ceccarelli To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Oscar_Gonz=E1lez_de_Dios?= , "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" , "ccamp@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a WG document Thread-Index: AQHOsyZvrulZHxZ2V06xYm4mSR6/wJnI7Kaw Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 22:10:24 +0000 Message-ID: <4A1562797D64E44993C5CBF38CF1BE481534A8@ESESSMB301.ericsson.se> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: it-IT, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [153.88.183.148] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_4A1562797D64E44993C5CBF38CF1BE481534A8ESESSMB301ericsso_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFrrPLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+Jvje7FRvMggwsNOhZP5txgsbjc1c1u MXkFmwOzx8v+OYweS5b8ZPJ48ncLcwBzFJdNSmpOZllqkb5dAldGe2dSwabQiskzfrA0MH70 6WLk5JAQMJG4sOozM4QtJnHh3no2EFtI4DCjxOOtBRD2EkaJ5t/RXYwcHGwCVhJPDgG1cnGI CHQzSkx/tYUVpEZYIEri66/bjCC2iEC0RNO6c2wQtpHE9r8fwOIsAqoSh7d+YAKxeQW8JR4/ +ssOMb9aYtOxKWBxTgEdiV9HHoDNZBSQlZiwexFYL7OAuMStJ/OZIO4UkFiy5zzUzaISLx// Y4WwlSQalzxhhajPl9jYeo4VYpegxMmZT1gmMIrMQjJqFpKyWUjKIOJ6EjemTmGDsLUlli18 zQxh60rM+HeIBVl8ASP7Kkb23MTMnPRyo02MwEg6uOW36g7GO+dEDjFKc7AoifNu1jsTKCSQ nliSmp2aWpBaFF9UmpNafIiRiYNTqoGxxu0Ug8Xz86fM1PIXacv/FTU70qipc7P2x/8Js7SO bo/89+xOTdjcKyVhuwwXRS78MfsIs11IxZWzKR97bAVOrtmfHBW08M5vbx7WIy3SGjkpq6Zw ZG+aWPZM/4Dyd35JUeYIsVLejHV/bZPWqXdHizj4fL/5fMWsap95Ew2b5391ZF5+YYGqEktx RqKhFnNRcSIAS5f3iHICAAA= Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a WG document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 22:10:33 -0000 --_000_4A1562797D64E44993C5CBF38CF1BE481534A8ESESSMB301ericsso_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes/Suppor (as coauthor) BR Daniele From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of O= scar Gonz=E1lez de Dios Sent: luned=EC 16 settembre 2013 23:48 To: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A; ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 = a WG document Yes / Support (as coauthor). Best Regards, Oscar De: , DEBORAH A BRUNGARD > Fecha: lunes, 16 de septiembre de 2013 21:34 Para: CCAMP > Asunto: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a WG = document All, This is to start a two week poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-= fwk-03 a ccamp working group document. Please send email to the list indica= ting "yes/support" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state y= our technical reservations with the document. The poll ends Monday, September 30th. Thanks, Deborah and Lou ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nu= estra pol=EDtica de env=EDo y recepci=F3n de correo electr=F3nico en el enl= ace situado m=E1s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and re= ceive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx --_000_4A1562797D64E44993C5CBF38CF1BE481534A8ESESSMB301ericsso_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes/Suppor (as coauthor)<= o:p>

 <= /p>

BR
Daniele

 <= /p>

From: ccamp-bo= unces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Oscar Gonz=E1lez de Dios
Sent: luned=EC 16 settembre 2013 23:48
To: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A; ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-= fwk-03 a WG document

 

Yes / Support (as coauthor)= .

 

Best Regards,

 

Oscar

 

De: <BRUNGARD>, DEBORAH A BRUNGARD &l= t;db3546@att.com>
Fecha: lunes, 16 de septiembre de 2013 21:34
Para: CCAMP <ccamp@ietf.org= >
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Subject: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-= 03 a WG document

 

All,

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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From zhang.xian@huawei.com Mon Sep 16 19:04:11 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA8011E8168 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:04:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.395 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.395 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_BASE64_TEXT=1.753, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id La+Wmb2To2UY for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:04:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A7B111E80E9 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:04:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml204-edg.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id AXX42677; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 02:04:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML404-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.218) by lhreml204-edg.china.huawei.com (172.18.7.223) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 03:03:17 +0100 Received: from SZXEML408-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.67.95) by lhreml404-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.218) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 03:03:40 +0100 Received: from SZXEML510-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.3.70]) by szxeml408-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.82.67.95]) with mapi id 14.03.0146.000; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 10:03:35 +0800 From: "Zhangxian (Xian)" To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" , "ccamp@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a WG document Thread-Index: Ac6zE8vTfoo8sCH9Q7+L8sMAjGZ8ggANkevg Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 02:03:34 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.66.104.209] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_C636AF2FA540124E9B9ACB5A6BECCE6B18A2FBC1szxeml510mbxchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a WG document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 02:04:11 -0000 --_000_C636AF2FA540124E9B9ACB5A6BECCE6B18A2FBC1szxeml510mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 WWVzL3N1cHBvcnQuDQoNClJlZ2FyZHMsDQpYaWFuDQoNCkZyb206IGNjYW1wLWJvdW5jZXNAaWV0 Zi5vcmcgW21haWx0bzpjY2FtcC1ib3VuY2VzQGlldGYub3JnXSBPbiBCZWhhbGYgT2YgQlJVTkdB UkQsIERFQk9SQUggQQ0KU2VudDogMjAxM8TqOdTCMTfI1SAzOjM1DQpUbzogY2NhbXBAaWV0Zi5v cmcNClN1YmplY3Q6IFtDQ0FNUF0gUG9sbCBvbiBtYWtpbmcgZHJhZnQtb2dyY2V0YWwtY2NhbXAt ZmxleGktZ3JpZC1md2stMDMgYSBXRyBkb2N1bWVudA0KDQpBbGwsDQoNClRoaXMgaXMgdG8gc3Rh cnQgYSB0d28gd2VlayBwb2xsIG9uIG1ha2luZyBkcmFmdC1vZ3JjZXRhbC1jY2FtcC1mbGV4aS1n cmlkLWZ3ay0wMyBhIGNjYW1wIHdvcmtpbmcgZ3JvdXAgZG9jdW1lbnQuIFBsZWFzZSBzZW5kIGVt YWlsIHRvIHRoZSBsaXN0IGluZGljYXRpbmcgobB5ZXMvc3VwcG9ydKGxIG9yIKGwbm8vZG8gbm90 IHN1cHBvcnShsS4gSWYgaW5kaWNhdGluZyBubywgcGxlYXNlIHN0YXRlIHlvdXIgdGVjaG5pY2Fs IHJlc2VydmF0aW9ucyB3aXRoIHRoZSBkb2N1bWVudC4NCg0KVGhlIHBvbGwgZW5kcyBNb25kYXks IFNlcHRlbWJlciAzMHRoLg0KDQpUaGFua3MsDQpEZWJvcmFoIGFuZCBMb3UNCg0KDQo= --_000_C636AF2FA540124E9B9ACB5A6BECCE6B18A2FBC1szxeml510mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org= ] On Behalf Of BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A
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Subject: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-= 03 a WG document

 

All,

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This is to start a two w= eek poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a ccamp working g= roup document. Please send email to the list indicating =A1=B0yes/support= =A1=B1 or =A1=B0no/do not support=A1=B1. If indicating no, please state your tech= nical reservations with the document.

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The poll ends Monday, Se= ptember 30th.

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Thanks,

Deborah and Lou

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--_000_C636AF2FA540124E9B9ACB5A6BECCE6B18A2FBC1szxeml510mbxchi_-- From tochio@jp.fujitsu.com Mon Sep 16 19:26:20 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0973E11E82E7 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:26:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.089 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.089 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3sVDAhU51JUy for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:26:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fgwmail5.fujitsu.co.jp (fgwmail5.fujitsu.co.jp [192.51.44.35]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD7111E8193 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m3.gw.fujitsu.co.jp (unknown [10.0.50.73]) by fgwmail5.fujitsu.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B5F3EE102 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:26:13 +0900 (JST) Received: from smail (m3 [127.0.0.1]) by outgoing.m3.gw.fujitsu.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDCBC45DEB7 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:26:12 +0900 (JST) Received: from s3.gw.fujitsu.co.jp (s3.gw.fujitsu.co.jp [10.0.50.93]) by m3.gw.fujitsu.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1B0E45DEBB for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:26:12 +0900 (JST) Received: from s3.gw.fujitsu.co.jp (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by s3.gw.fujitsu.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52F41DB803B for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:26:12 +0900 (JST) Received: from dm.kawasaki.flab.fujitsu.co.jp (dm.kawasaki.flab.fujitsu.co.jp [10.25.192.105]) by s3.gw.fujitsu.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A301DB803C for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:26:12 +0900 (JST) Received: from flabmail.flab.fujitsu.co.jp (flabmail.flab.fujitsu.co.jp [10.25.192.52]) by dm.kawasaki.flab.fujitsu.co.jp (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r8H2QCQn001676 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:26:12 +0900 Received: from vskawa.flab.fujitsu.co.jp (vskawa.flab.fujitsu.co.jp [10.25.192.39]) by flabmail.flab.fujitsu.co.jp (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r8H2QBup004472 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:26:12 +0900 X-AuditID: 0a19c027-b7ef78e000002054-54-5237bdc3c931 Received: from dm.kawasaki.flab.fujitsu.co.jp (dm.kawasaki.flab.fujitsu.co.jp [10.25.192.105]) by vskawa.flab.fujitsu.co.jp (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 9B.D3.08276.3CDB7325; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:26:12 +0900 (JST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (dhcp61.dream.flab.fujitsu.co.jp [10.25.144.194]) by dm.kawasaki.flab.fujitsu.co.jp (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r8H2Q8DS001670 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:26:11 +0900 X-SecurityPolicyCheck: OK by SHieldMailChecker v1.8.4 Message-ID: <5237BD54.3030208@jp.fujitsu.com> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:24:20 +0900 From: Yuji Tochio User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ccamp@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020008020606050505050007" X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFlrOLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsXCJXkgU/fIXvMgg7k9rBZP5txgcWD0WLLk J1MAYxSXTUpqTmZZapG+XQJXxu4H/SwFB8Qrpq1Zzt7AeFioi5GTQ0LARGL6xVWsELaYxIV7 69m6GLk4hAQeM0r8/racGSQhJHCVUeL+RmOIIlOJieueMYLYvAK6Ev2968BsFgFViXm9z1hA bDYBTYlrM++AxUUFgiV2P37GClEvKHFy5hOwGhEBIYkFU74zdTFycAgLREnM+e4MsSpS4v+q tUwgNidQeMONA2DlzAJhEmduHGWdwMg/C8mkWUhSELauxM0TH5kgbHmJ7W/nMEPYOhLvmy+y I4svYGRbxShZVpydWJ6ol5aTmKSXVpqVWVJcqpecr5dVsIkRErjqOxifLdI8xCjAwajEw1ui YB4kxJpYVlyZe4hRgoNZSYQ3TBcoxJuSWFmVWpQfX1Sak1p8iJGJg1OqgZHt+K7l5f1iMi0T NkS8j4yXUprFv2O71s/NLQvmnHvybHLQzi9c51je7zy/V2Nt1YuGuzteMNXueXizkvV4Ya2G UblNIsOTjPf7DniZ1KyW2FEZ8r2hUmlrkMeud7NuOPaVrjhqvTo46NWDo4YK8R+uWG1vzvw6 yXu5XmHf0dJ17FdS1rmH9wsqsRRnJBpqMRcVJwIApQMx2ToCAAA= Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a WG document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 02:26:20 -0000 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 02:26:20 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020008020606050505050007 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Support Thanks, Yuji (2013/09/17 4:34), BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A wrote: > All, > This is to start a two week poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a ccamp working group document. Please send email to the list indicating > $B!H(Byes/support$B!I(B or $B!H(Bno/do not support$B!I(B. If indicating no, please state your technical reservations with the document. > The poll ends Monday, September 30^th . > Thanks, > Deborah and Lou > > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp --------------020008020606050505050007 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Support

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(2013/09/17 4:34), BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A wrote:
All,
 
This is to start a two week poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a ccamp working group document. Please send email to the list indicating $B!H(Byes/support$B!I(B or $B!H(Bno/do not support$B!I(B. If indicating no, please state your technical reservations with the document.
 
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--------------020008020606050505050007-- From cyril.margaria@coriant.com Mon Sep 16 22:04:13 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D6711E834A for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 22:04:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31p2xG0wZ0dC for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 22:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from db8outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (mail-db8lp0187.outbound.messaging.microsoft.com [213.199.154.187]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8000211E8339 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 22:04:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail74-db8-R.bigfish.com (10.174.8.247) by DB8EHSOBE032.bigfish.com (10.174.4.95) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.22; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 05:04:03 +0000 Received: from mail74-db8 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail74-db8-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B4FDC0097; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 05:04:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:157.56.253.53; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); IPV:NLI; H:DB3PRD0411HT004.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI X-SpamScore: -23 X-BigFish: PS-23(zz9371Ic89bhc85dh4015I31c5Izz1f42h208ch1ee6h1de0h1fdah2073h1202h1e76h1d1ah1d2ah1fc6hzz1de098h1033IL18c673h1c8fb4h1de097h8275dhz2fh2a8h839hd25hf0ah1288h12a5h12bdh137ah1441h1504h1537h153bh15d0h162dh1631h1758h18e1h1946h19b5h19ceh1ad9h1b0ah1bceh1d07h1d0ch1d2eh1d3fh1de9h1dfeh1dffh1e1dh1fe8h1ff5h20f0h1155h) Received-SPF: pass (mail74-db8: domain of coriant.com designates 157.56.253.53 as permitted sender) client-ip=157.56.253.53; envelope-from=cyril.margaria@coriant.com; helo=DB3PRD0411HT004.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com ; .outlook.com ; Received: from mail74-db8 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail74-db8 (MessageSwitch) id 1379394241470427_21350; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 05:04:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from DB8EHSMHS008.bigfish.com (unknown [10.174.8.235]) by mail74-db8.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB76A40041; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 05:04:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from DB3PRD0411HT004.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com (157.56.253.53) by DB8EHSMHS008.bigfish.com (10.174.4.18) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.16.227.3; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 05:04:01 +0000 Received: from DB3PRD0411MB427.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.6.138]) by DB3PRD0411HT004.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com ([10.255.73.39]) with mapi id 14.16.0353.003; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 05:04:00 +0000 From: "Margaria, Cyril (Coriant - DE/Munich)" To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" , "ccamp@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a WG document Thread-Index: Ac6zE8vTfoo8sCH9Q7+L8sMAjGZ8ggAT3hKQ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 05:03:59 +0000 Message-ID: <523C37072C291347B9730C9291CCA07D02D90E6C@DB3PRD0411MB427.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [87.163.86.121] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_523C37072C291347B9730C9291CCA07D02D90E6CDB3PRD0411MB427_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: coriant.com X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%0$Dn%*$RO%0$TLS%0$FQDN%$TlsDn% Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a WG document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 05:04:13 -0000 --_000_523C37072C291347B9730C9291CCA07D02D90E6CDB3PRD0411MB427_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes/Support Mit freundlichen Gr=FC=DFen / Best Regards Cyril Margaria From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of B= RUNGARD, DEBORAH A Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 9:35 PM To: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a WG= document All, This is to start a two week poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-= fwk-03 a ccamp working group document. Please send email to the list indica= ting "yes/support" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state y= our technical reservations with the document. The poll ends Monday, September 30th. Thanks, Deborah and Lou --_000_523C37072C291347B9730C9291CCA07D02D90E6CDB3PRD0411MB427_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Subject: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-= 03 a WG document

 

All,

 

This is to start a two week poll on mak= ing draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a ccamp working group document. = Please send email to the list indicating “yes/support” or “no/do not support”. If indicating no, please state your techn= ical reservations with the document.

 

The poll ends Monday, September 30th.

 

Thanks,

Deborah and Lou

 

 

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Best Regards, Gabriele [http://www.cisco.com/swa/i/logo.gif] Gabriele Galimberti Technical Leader Cisco Photonics Srl Via Philips, 12 20900 - Monza (MI) Italy www.cisco.com/global/IT/ ggalimbe@cisco.com Phone :+39 039 2091462 Mobile :+39 335 7481947 Fax :+39 039 2092049 From: , Deborah Brungard > Date: Monday, September 16, 2013 9:34 PM To: "ccamp@ietf.org" > Subject: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a WG= document All, This is to start a two week poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-= fwk-03 a ccamp working group document. Please send email to the list indica= ting =93yes/support=94 or =93no/do not support=94. If indicating no, please= state your technical reservations with the document. The poll ends Monday, September 30th. Thanks, Deborah and Lou --_000_7802FF1A01070C449CCE96E5CD2CC77987A7AExmbrcdx09ciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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From: <BRUNGARD>, Deborah Bru= ngard <db3546@att.com>
Date: Monday, September 16, 2013 9:= 34 PM
To: "ccamp@ietf.org" <cca= mp@ietf.org>
Subject: [CCAMP] Poll on making dra= ft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a WG document

All,
 
This is to start a two week poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-= grid-fwk-03 a ccamp working group document. Please send email to the list i= ndicating =93yes/support=94 or =93no/do not support=94. If indicating no, p= lease state your technical reservations with the document.
 
The poll ends Monday, September 30th.
 
Thanks,
Deborah and Lou
 
 
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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes , I support BR Sergio Da: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] Per conto di BRU= NGARD, DEBORAH A Inviato: luned=EC 16 settembre 2013 21:35 A: ccamp@ietf.org Oggetto: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a WG= document All, This is to start a two week poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-= fwk-03 a ccamp working group document. 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Yes , I support

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BR

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Da: ccamp-= bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] Per conto di BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A
Inviato: luned=EC 16 settembre 2013 21:35
A: ccamp@ietf.org
Oggetto: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-= 03 a WG document

 

All,

 

This is to start a two week poll on mak= ing draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a ccamp working group document. = Please send email to the list indicating “yes/support” or “no/do not support”. If indicating no, please state your techn= ical reservations with the document.

 

The poll ends Monday, September 30th.

 

Thanks,

Deborah and Lou

 

 

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All,
 
This is to start a two week poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a ccamp working group document. Please send email to the list indicating “yes/support” or “no/do not support”. If indicating no, please state your technical reservations with the document.
 
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So I believe the editors will update the draft per my comments. Thanks, Yuji (2013/08/01 17:59), Amy wrote: > Hi CCAMPers, > There were some questions and comments after the presentation of /draft-long-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability/ and > /draft-long-ccamp-ospf-availability-extension/. > Below are the comments and replies: > 1. The motivation > [Authors] For the links with variable discrete bandwidth, availability is used to decribe the bandwidth. It's proposed to add the availability as an paramter > along with the bandwidth request. Without this extension, the link bandwidth cannot get good utilization: for example, the node may reserve the bandwidth with > 99.999% availability while the actual requirement is only 99.9%, and consequently it can not reserve the bandwidth when the real requirement with 99.999% > availability comes. > 2. The mechanism, how to use the availability profile > [Authors] Once the link is set up, the information on availability and bandwidth is saved in the link bandwidth capacity table on local node, and should also > be propagated in the routing message to calculate a path. When the bandwidth request comes, the node will compare the request with the link capacity table. If > the request can be satisfied, the bandwidth is reserved and the link capacity table is updated. > 3. What will happen if there are two links between C and D(see the figure in the slides), will it end up with multiple path? > [Authors] When there are multiple links between two nodes, the link aggregation may be used so that the two links can be treated as one logic link. And the > link aggregation should be transparent to resource resveration as it belongs to the link layer technology, > 4. When the requirements in the PATH message couldn't be satisfied, D should send the PATHERR message. > [Authors] If the requirements couldn't be satisfied, to keep the consistent with the normal process, the resv process is terminated at C, C should send the > PATHERR message, and RESV message won't be passed to D. > 5. In TSVWG, there's a draft on multiple-TSPEC which might be useful in this case. > [Authors] After looking into the draft-ietf-tsvwg-intserv-multiple-tspec-02, it might work to add a availability field in the TSPEC instead of having a > sub-TLV in bandwidht profile TLV ( if I understand correlty). > Thank Khuzema, Lou, Yuji, Dieter to give their comments. And more comments are appreciated. > BR, > Amy Ye(on behalf of co-authors) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp --------------080809020703040802000006 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi all

FYI:
As to #4 (comment from me) below, I had offline talk with Amy via e-mail and
she has understood the point.
So I believe the editors will update the draft per my comments.

Thanks, Yuji

(2013/08/01 17:59), Amy wrote:
Hi CCAMPers,
 
There were some questions and comments after the presentation of draft-long-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability and draft-long-ccamp-ospf-availability-extension.
 
Below are the comments and replies:
 
1. The motivation
[Authors] For the links with variable discrete bandwidth, availability is used to decribe the bandwidth. It's proposed to add the availability as an paramter along with the bandwidth request. Without this extension, the link bandwidth cannot get good utilization: for example, the node may reserve the bandwidth with 99.999% availability while the actual requirement is only 99.9%, and consequently it can not reserve the bandwidth when the real requirement with 99.999% availability comes.
 
2. The mechanism, how to use the availability profile
[Authors] Once the link is set up, the information on availability and bandwidth is saved in the link bandwidth capacity table on local node, and should also be propagated in the routing message to calculate a path. When the bandwidth request comes, the node will compare the request with the link capacity table. If the request can be satisfied, the bandwidth is reserved and the link capacity table is updated.
3. What will happen if there are two links between C and D(see the figure in the slides), will it end up with multiple path?
[Authors] When there are multiple links between two nodes, the link aggregation may be used so that the two links can be treated as one logic link.  And the link aggregation should be transparent to resource resveration as it belongs to the link layer technology,
 
4. When the requirements in the PATH message couldn't be satisfied, D should send the PATHERR message.
[Authors] If the requirements couldn't be satisfied, to keep the consistent with the normal process, the resv process is terminated at C, C should send the PATHERR message,  and RESV message won't be passed to D.
 
5. In TSVWG, there's a draft on multiple-TSPEC which might be useful in this case. 
[Authors] After looking into the draft-ietf-tsvwg-intserv-multiple-tspec-02, it might work to add a availability field in the TSPEC instead of having a sub-TLV in bandwidht profile TLV ( if I understand correlty).
 
 
Thank Khuzema, Lou, Yuji, Dieter to give their comments. And more comments are appreciated.
 
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Amy Ye(on behalf of co-authors)
 


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--------------080809020703040802000006-- From eve.varma@alcatel-lucent.com Tue Sep 17 04:35:01 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B342411E83EF for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 04:35:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t802v9AKFUIC for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 04:34:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ihemail4.lucent.com (ihemail4.lucent.com [135.245.0.39]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6018C11E81A4 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 04:34:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from us70tusmtp1.zam.alcatel-lucent.com (h135-5-2-63.lucent.com [135.5.2.63]) by ihemail4.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id r8HBYpmD009060 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 17 Sep 2013 06:34:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from US70TWXCHHUB03.zam.alcatel-lucent.com (us70twxchhub03.zam.alcatel-lucent.com [135.5.2.35]) by us70tusmtp1.zam.alcatel-lucent.com (GMO) with ESMTP id r8HBYoZ7001587 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Tue, 17 Sep 2013 07:34:50 -0400 Received: from US70UWXCHMBA03.zam.alcatel-lucent.com ([169.254.9.66]) by US70TWXCHHUB03.zam.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.5.2.35]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 07:34:50 -0400 From: "Varma, Eve L (Eve)" To: "Beller, Dieter (Dieter)" , "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" , "ccamp@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a WG document Thread-Index: AQHOs35bdz/xeNpVNk2S0+hG1HzUwpnJzNNg Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:34:49 +0000 Message-ID: <6D32668528F93D449A073F45707153D80C06010D@US70UWXCHMBA03.zam.alcatel-lucent.com> References: <52380FFE.7090106@alcatel-lucent.com> In-Reply-To: <52380FFE.7090106@alcatel-lucent.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.5.27.17] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_6D32668528F93D449A073F45707153D80C06010DUS70UWXCHMBA03z_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.39 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a WG document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:35:01 -0000 --_000_6D32668528F93D449A073F45707153D80C06010DUS70UWXCHMBA03z_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +1 From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of D= ieter Beller Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 4:17 AM To: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A; ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 = a WG document yes/support Thanks, Dieter On 16.09.2013 21:34, BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A wrote: All, This is to start a two week poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-= fwk-03 a ccamp working group document. Please send email to the list indica= ting "yes/support" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state y= our technical reservations with the document. The poll ends Monday, September 30th. Thanks, Deborah and Lou _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp --_000_6D32668528F93D449A073F45707153D80C06010DUS70UWXCHMBA03z_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Yes I support.

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Hi Yuji,

 = ;

Thanks for= the question clarification.

 = ;

Presuming = the link blow:

A------ B = - - - - C ------D

 

The dash l= ine represents the link with discrete variable bandwidth.=

 = ;

When the b= andwidth requirements couldn't be satisfied on the link between B and C, &n= bsp;it should be C to return the PATHERR message.

 = ;

It might b= e not clear in the current draft, I will update the draft to make it clear.=

 = ;

BR,

Amy=

=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB:= ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@i= etf.org] =B4=FA=B1=ED Yuji Tochio
=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4:<= span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5;colo= r:windowtext"> 2013=C4=EA9=D4=C217=C8=D5 16:54
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: ccamp@ietf.org
=D6=F7=CC=E2: Re: [CCAMP] draft-long-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability-01=

 

Hi all

FYI:
As to #4 (comment from me) below, I had offline talk with Amy via e-mail an= d
she has understood the point.
So I believe the editors will update the draft per my comments.

Thanks, Yuji

(2013/08/01 17:59), Amy wrote:

Hi CCAMPers,

 

There were some questions and comments= after the presentation of draft-long-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability and draft-long= -ccamp-ospf-availability-extension.

 

Below are the comments and replies:

 

1. The motivation

[Authors] For the links with variable = discrete bandwidth, availability is used to decribe the bandwidth. It's pro= posed to add the availability as an paramter along with the bandwidth request. Without this extension, the link bandwidth cannot get g= ood utilization: for example, the node may reserve the bandwidth with = 99.999% availability while the actual requirement is only 99.9%, and c= onsequently it can not reserve the bandwidth when the real requirement with 99.999% availability comes.

 

2. The mechanism, how to use the avail= ability profile

[Authors] Once the link is set up= , the information on availability and bandwidth is saved in the link bandwi= dth capacity table on local node, and should also be propagated in the routing message to calculate a path. When the bandwidth request com= es, the node will compare the request with the link capacity table. If the = request can be satisfied, the bandwidth is reserved and the link capacity t= able is updated.

3. What will happen if there are two l= inks between C and D(see the figure in the slides), will it end up with mul= tiple path?

[Authors] When there are multiple link= s between two nodes, the link aggregation may be used so that the two = links can be treated as one logic link.  And the link aggreg= ation should be transparent to resource resveration as it belongs to the link la= yer technology,

 

4. When the requirements in the PATH m= essage couldn't be satisfied, D should send the PATHERR message.

[Authors] If the requirements couldn't= be satisfied, to keep the consistent with the normal process, the res= v process is terminated at C, C should send the PATHERR message, =  and RESV message won't be passed to D.<= /span>

 

5. In TSVWG, there's a draft on multip= le-TSPEC which might be useful in this case. 

[Authors] After looking into the draft= -ietf-tsvwg-intserv-multiple-tspec-02, it might work to add a ava= ilability field in the TSPEC instead of having a sub-TLV in bandwidht profile TLV ( if I understand correlty).

 

 

Thank Khuzema, Lou, Yuji, Dieter = to give their comments. And more comments are appreciated.

 

BR,

Amy Ye(on behalf of co-authors)=

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--_000_9C5FD3EFA72E1740A3D41BADDE0B461F73D3E1E6szxema506mbschi_-- From imajuku.wataru@lab.ntt.co.jp Wed Sep 18 01:03:00 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7EB11E81C9 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 01:03:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.09 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.09 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8eTTmV0Jzl6n for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 01:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tama50.ecl.ntt.co.jp (tama50.ecl.ntt.co.jp [129.60.39.147]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1308F11E81C5 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 01:02:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mfs5.rdh.ecl.ntt.co.jp (mfs5.rdh.ecl.ntt.co.jp [129.60.39.144]) by tama50.ecl.ntt.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r8I826iQ017391; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 17:02:06 +0900 Received: from mfs5.rdh.ecl.ntt.co.jp (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mfs5.rdh.ecl.ntt.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D8DE011E; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 17:02:06 +0900 (JST) Received: from dmailsv1.y.ecl.ntt.co.jp (dmailsv1.y.ecl.ntt.co.jp [129.60.53.14]) by mfs5.rdh.ecl.ntt.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34184E011D; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 17:02:06 +0900 (JST) Received: from dmailsv1.y.ecl.ntt.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postfix.imss71 (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1179FA0E28; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 17:02:06 +0900 (JST) Received: from mailsvb.y.ecl.ntt.co.jp (mailsvb.y.ecl.ntt.co.jp [129.60.53.229]) by dmailsv1.y.ecl.ntt.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05345A0C1F; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 17:02:06 +0900 (JST) Received: from imajukuwataru (wipc.onlab.ntt.co.jp [129.60.125.84]) by mailsvb.y.ecl.ntt.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id F126D50005D; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 17:02:05 +0900 (JST) From: "Wataru Imajuku" To: "'Diego Caviglia'" , "'PELOSO, PIERRE \(PIERRE\)'" , "'Lou Berger'" , , , , , , , , "'Daniele Ceccarelli'" , , , , References: <51E83C4F.8090502@labn.net> <4E9BAD336C18BD49A429157A855607F11C4324A4@ESESSMB103.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: <4E9BAD336C18BD49A429157A855607F11C4324A4@ESESSMB103.ericsson.se> Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 17:02:22 +0900 Message-ID: <000001ceb445$67e977e0$37bc67a0$@lab.ntt.co.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQJA/7bCg0ic+6p2pRoGVVpFSxpC0wFf9sPCAipYzJ2YyjPdYA== Content-Language: ja X-TM-AS-MML: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 04:11:49 -0700 Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 08:03:00 -0000 Hi, all, I want to apologize for the delay of response. 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BR D > -----Original Message----- > From: PELOSO, PIERRE (PIERRE)=20 > [mailto:pierre.peloso@alcatel-lucent.com] > Sent: gioved=EC 12 settembre 2013 09:14 > To: Lou Berger; Diego Caviglia; anders.gavler@acreo.se;=20 > jonas.martensson@acreo.se; i-nishioka@cb.jp.nec.com;=20 > cyril.margaria@nsn.com; giomarti@cisco.com; ggalimbe@cisco.com;=20 > lyong@ciena.com; Daniele Ceccarelli; gregb@grotto-networking.com;=20 > leeyoung@huawei.com; danli@huawei.com; imajuku.wataru@lab.ntt.co.jp;=20 > hanjianrui@huawei.com > Cc: ccamp@ietf.org > Subject: RE: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode >=20 > Hi all, >=20 > Sorry for latency, >=20 > No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Pierre >=20 > -----Message d'origine----- > De=A0: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] Envoy=E9=A0: jeudi 18 = juillet=20 > 2013 21:05 =C0=A0: diego.caviglia@ericsson.com; = anders.gavler@acreo.se;=20 > jonas.martensson@acreo.se; i-nishioka@cb.jp.nec.com; PELOSO, PIERRE=20 > (PIERRE); cyril.margaria@nsn.com; giomarti@cisco.com;=20 > ggalimbe@cisco.com; lyong@ciena.com; daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com;=20 > gregb@grotto-networking.com; leeyoung@huawei.com; danli@huawei.com;=20 > imajuku.wataru@lab.ntt.co.jp; hanjianrui@huawei.com Cc=A0:=20 > ccamp@ietf.org Objet=A0: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-=20 > encode >=20 > Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) >=20 > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: >=20 > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? >=20 > Please state either: >=20 > "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" > or > "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" >=20 > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules=20 > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? >=20 > If yes to the above, please state either: >=20 > "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" > or > "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" >=20 > If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think > appropriate. >=20 > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer=20 > the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you = > are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the=20 > next stage until a response has been received from each author and = listed contributor. > NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. >=20 > If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author=20 > or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR=20 > rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR=20 > of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in = > any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For=20 > more information, please see the RFCs listed above and=20 > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. >=20 > Thank you, > CCAMP WG Chairs >=20 > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your=20 > response. From yang.fan240347@gmail.com Wed Sep 18 05:27:46 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B3A11E8272 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 05:27:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XW54gmU-q4kw for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 05:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-x241.google.com (mail-wg0-x241.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::241]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79BBD11E8274 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 05:27:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f65.google.com with SMTP id k14so1762983wgh.8 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 05:27:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=qND9sDH5RSv92qYWewqQTW1h4RrpsuJgNCRv9AvPyB4=; b=gbUMr834W2bLY+U3f+syqoCM4ZNRZBODDPwnFgvZ+CE4FxSdYfowCCXkUh5QgTnCyq b1lnMMVuUAgW4UBojovM9p0hPcCTtvz07p8j6vQXw2GFX3GsWwo/K7QmPEyQkT/VnXzA wNplso9w0Js8eScsrj8LcGp36WQaPT/6mEwC6SBAl/lecU1sdGvC8VJoxg9CniVxVJUm JD/i4JOIAX7Ar4+bEo+q1C4meZxLsRqMgwvwjP08+IGmv+CeWixIkmI4sSNxRyTCzqcu pgw4vkPR7qnEIIpcv6akpqVn6Wenc75kN5dHL4/NzbyKE2+zK0pj+IJenq1VIJ9YG667 hQug== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.20.163 with SMTP id o3mr6940728wie.1.1379507264598; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 05:27:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.52.197 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 05:27:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 20:27:44 +0800 Message-ID: From: =?GB2312?B?0e63qw==?= To: jingrq@ctbri.com.cn, rgandhi@cisco.com, zhang.fei3@zte.com.cn, ccamp@ietf.org, draft-ietf-ccamp-mpls-tp-rsvpte-ext-associated-lsp@tools.ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec53f30ed78bac904e6a79089 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 05:51:50 -0700 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR ondraft-ietf-ccamp-mpls-tp-rsvpte-ext-associated-lsp X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:48:56 -0000 --bcaec53f30ed78bac904e6a79089 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear all I am the co-author of this draft. 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--bcaec53f30ed78bac904e6a79089-- From IHussain@infinera.com Thu Sep 19 16:07:17 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44FF121F89EB for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 16:07:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.184 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.184 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NtscMQdFCgYm for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 16:07:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sv-casht-prod2.infinera.com (sv-casht-prod2.infinera.com [8.4.225.25]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA3A21F8A84 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 16:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SV-EXDB-PROD1.infinera.com ([fe80::dc68:4e20:6002:a8f9]) by sv-casht-prod2.infinera.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 16:07:11 -0700 From: Iftekhar Hussain To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" , "ccamp@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a WG document Thread-Index: AQHOsxphT1Qe2K025k2lt1QyexT5e5nNsoaQ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 23:07:10 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.100.96.93] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_D7D7AB44C06A2440B716F1F1F5E70AE53FAAD7ABSVEXDBPROD1infi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a WG document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 23:07:17 -0000 --_000_D7D7AB44C06A2440B716F1F1F5E70AE53FAAD7ABSVEXDBPROD1infi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes/support. Iftekhar From: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A [mailto:db3546@att.com] Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 12:35 PM To: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a WG= document All, This is to start a two week poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-= fwk-03 a ccamp working group document. Please send email to the list indica= ting "yes/support" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state y= our technical reservations with the document. The poll ends Monday, September 30th. Thanks, Deborah and Lou --_000_D7D7AB44C06A2440B716F1F1F5E70AE53FAAD7ABSVEXDBPROD1infi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes/support.

 

Iftekhar

From: BRUNGARD= , DEBORAH A [mailto:db3546@att.com]
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 12:35 PM
To: ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-= 03 a WG document

 

All,

 

This is to start a two week poll on mak= ing draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a ccamp working group document. = Please send email to the list indicating “yes/support” or “no/do not support”. If indicating no, please state your techn= ical reservations with the document.

 

The poll ends Monday, September 30th.

 

Thanks,

Deborah and Lou

 

 

--_000_D7D7AB44C06A2440B716F1F1F5E70AE53FAAD7ABSVEXDBPROD1infi_-- From giomarti@cisco.com Thu Sep 19 23:35:25 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB62521F85E6 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 23:35:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AgQHHpoCQmlE for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 23:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com [173.37.86.79]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF3A221F84B1 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 23:35:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2994; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1379658920; x=1380868520; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:mime-version; bh=R+7r/9GeNTWpAVLgvx19Xx7wtAfCczI6JBpCbHuaMf0=; b=ZdiBQ2xjWTeyAe6VIPZZ6r3jkPCDVkYm5e+fn6aAjxJxbHbi5kr+oQeo KkY0n2W3xl7g9BQLQHQ2vqzzplbkSa6mgTC2unvUif2+D75IKfavPALsA k10ThGL4buqXQu8f5hVxrGaUDENEW3fhgM3NgLJNV5ymKgmy/+dZJcPaF s=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiQFAK3rO1KtJXHB/2dsb2JhbABbgkNEOFLBNIEgFnSCJgEBBAEBAWsLEAIBCAQeHQcnCxQRAgQOBQiHewy6YQSOHoEYLQQHgx6BAAOpcYMkgXE5 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.90,941,1371081600"; d="scan'208,217";a="262259630" Received: from rcdn-core2-6.cisco.com ([173.37.113.193]) by rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com with ESMTP; 20 Sep 2013 06:35:20 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x05.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x05.cisco.com [173.36.12.79]) by rcdn-core2-6.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r8K6ZKUH011997 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Fri, 20 Sep 2013 06:35:20 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-x14.cisco.com ([169.254.4.14]) by xhc-aln-x05.cisco.com ([173.36.12.79]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 01:35:19 -0500 From: "Giovanni Martinelli (giomarti)" To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a WG document Thread-Index: AQHOtcuSIXavlSAEJECjMxnTN802aw== Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 06:35:19 +0000 Message-ID: <0D7F95913F470A4B83AB5F5833A4390D0EB850D7@xmb-rcd-x14.cisco.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [144.254.172.56] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_0D7F95913F470A4B83AB5F5833A4390D0EB850D7xmbrcdx14ciscoc_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a WG document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 06:35:26 -0000 --_000_0D7F95913F470A4B83AB5F5833A4390D0EB850D7xmbrcdx14ciscoc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yes/support ~G On Sep 16, 2013, at 21:34 , "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" > wrote: All, This is to start a two week poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-= fwk-03 a ccamp working group document. Please send email to the list indica= ting =93yes/support=94 or =93no/do not support=94. If indicating no, please= state your technical reservations with the document. The poll ends Monday, September 30th. Thanks, Deborah and Lou _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp --_000_0D7F95913F470A4B83AB5F5833A4390D0EB850D7xmbrcdx14ciscoc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yes/support

~G

On Sep 16, 2013, at 21:34 , "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" <db3546@att.com> wrote:

All,
 
This is to start a two week poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-= grid-fwk-03 a ccamp working group document. Please send email to the list i= ndicating =93yes/support=94 or =93no/do not support=94. If indicating no, p= lease state your technical reservations with the document.
 
The poll ends Monday, September 30th.
 
Thanks,
Deborah and Lou
 
 
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--_000_0D7F95913F470A4B83AB5F5833A4390D0EB850D7xmbrcdx14ciscoc_-- From leeyoung@huawei.com Fri Sep 20 10:04:25 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A03721F9CB5 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 10:04:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zK-O+l9O1MLP for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 10:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A03521F99E9 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 10:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml203-edg.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.5-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id AVR77826; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 17:04:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML403-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.217) by lhreml203-edg.huawei.com (172.18.7.221) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 18:03:37 +0100 Received: from DFWEML406-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.193.5.131) by lhreml403-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.217) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 18:04:15 +0100 Received: from dfweml511-mbs.china.huawei.com ([169.254.15.10]) by dfweml406-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.193.5.131]) with mapi id 14.03.0146.000; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 10:04:06 -0700 From: Leeyoung To: Wataru Imajuku , "'Diego Caviglia'" , "'PELOSO, PIERRE (PIERRE)'" , "'Lou Berger'" , "anders.gavler@acreo.se" , "jonas.martensson@acreo.se" , "i-nishioka@cb.jp.nec.com" , "cyril.margaria@nsn.com" , "giomarti@cisco.com" , "ggalimbe@cisco.com" , "lyong@ciena.com" , "'Daniele Ceccarelli'" , "gregb@grotto-networking.com" , "Lidan (Dan)" , Hanjianrui Thread-Topic: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode Thread-Index: AQHOg+myQzg15MkD60Sk3yfKFghO5pnCBueAgAGA7OCACHCBAIADRcwQ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 17:04:05 +0000 Message-ID: <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E17291CA321@dfweml511-mbs.china.huawei.com> References: <51E83C4F.8090502@labn.net> <4E9BAD336C18BD49A429157A855607F11C4324A4@ESESSMB103.ericsson.se> <000001ceb445$67e977e0$37bc67a0$@lab.ntt.co.jp> In-Reply-To: <000001ceb445$67e977e0$37bc67a0$@lab.ntt.co.jp> Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.216.45.120] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 17:04:25 -0000 Hi Wataru, Thanks for this. I think there is one more draft that awaits your IPR decla= ration for draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-info.=20 Best regards, Young -----Original Message----- From: Wataru Imajuku [mailto:imajuku.wataru@lab.ntt.co.jp]=20 Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:02 AM To: 'Diego Caviglia'; 'PELOSO, PIERRE (PIERRE)'; 'Lou Berger'; anders.gavle= r@acreo.se; jonas.martensson@acreo.se; i-nishioka@cb.jp.nec.com; cyril.marg= aria@nsn.com; giomarti@cisco.com; ggalimbe@cisco.com; lyong@ciena.com; 'Dan= iele Ceccarelli'; gregb@grotto-networking.com; Leeyoung; Lidan (Dan); Hanji= anrui Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: RE: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode Hi, all, I want to apologize for the delay of response. I came back to NTT Labs from NTT's U.S. subsidiary this summer. It was five year service in NTT subsidiaries since I left NTT Labs in 2008= . =20 No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Thanks, Wataru Imajuku, Ph.D. Supervisor @ NTT Network Innovation Labs. -----Original Message----- From: Diego Caviglia [mailto:diego.caviglia@ericsson.com] Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 3:10 PM To: PELOSO, PIERRE (PIERRE); Lou Berger; anders.gavler@acreo.se; jonas.mart= ensson@acreo.se; i-nishioka@cb.jp.nec.com; cyril.margaria@nsn.com; giomarti= @cisco.com; ggalimbe@cisco.com; lyong@ciena.com; Daniele Ceccarelli; gregb@= grotto-networking.com; leeyoung@huawei.com; danli@huawei.com; imajuku.watar= u@lab.ntt.co.jp; hanjianrui@huawei.com Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: RE: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode Hi all Apologies for the delay, no IPR I'm aware of on this ID. BR D > -----Original Message----- > From: PELOSO, PIERRE (PIERRE) > [mailto:pierre.peloso@alcatel-lucent.com] > Sent: gioved=EC 12 settembre 2013 09:14 > To: Lou Berger; Diego Caviglia; anders.gavler@acreo.se;=20 > jonas.martensson@acreo.se; i-nishioka@cb.jp.nec.com;=20 > cyril.margaria@nsn.com; giomarti@cisco.com; ggalimbe@cisco.com;=20 > lyong@ciena.com; Daniele Ceccarelli; gregb@grotto-networking.com;=20 > leeyoung@huawei.com; danli@huawei.com; imajuku.wataru@lab.ntt.co.jp;=20 > hanjianrui@huawei.com > Cc: ccamp@ietf.org > Subject: RE: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode >=20 > Hi all, >=20 > Sorry for latency, >=20 > No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Pierre >=20 > -----Message d'origine----- > De=A0: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] Envoy=E9=A0: jeudi 18 juillet > 2013 21:05 =C0=A0: diego.caviglia@ericsson.com; anders.gavler@acreo.se;=20 > jonas.martensson@acreo.se; i-nishioka@cb.jp.nec.com; PELOSO, PIERRE=20 > (PIERRE); cyril.margaria@nsn.com; giomarti@cisco.com;=20 > ggalimbe@cisco.com; lyong@ciena.com; daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com;=20 > gregb@grotto-networking.com; leeyoung@huawei.com; danli@huawei.com;=20 > imajuku.wataru@lab.ntt.co.jp; hanjianrui@huawei.com Cc=A0: > ccamp@ietf.org Objet=A0: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-=20 > encode >=20 > Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) >=20 > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: >=20 > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? >=20 > Please state either: >=20 > "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" > or > "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" >=20 > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules=20 > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? >=20 > If yes to the above, please state either: >=20 > "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" > or > "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" >=20 > If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think > appropriate. >=20 > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer=20 > the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you=20 > are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the=20 > next stage until a response has been received from each author and=20 > listed contributor. > NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. >=20 > If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author=20 > or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR=20 > rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR=20 > of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in=20 > any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For=20 > more information, please see the RFCs listed above and=20 > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. >=20 > Thank you, > CCAMP WG Chairs >=20 > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your=20 > response. From rrao@infinera.com Fri Sep 20 10:40:48 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53AF421F9D05 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 10:40:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qkh0MVT5Dla3 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 10:40:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sv-casht-prod1.infinera.com (sv-casht-prod1.infinera.com [8.4.225.24]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4320121F9CF1 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 10:40:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SV-EXDB-PROD1.infinera.com ([fe80::dc68:4e20:6002:a8f9]) by sv-casht-prod1.infinera.com ([10.100.97.218]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 10:40:43 -0700 From: Rajan Rao To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" , "ccamp@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a WG document Thread-Index: Ac6zE8vTfoo8sCH9Q7+L8sMAjGZ8ggDEwT/w Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 17:40:41 +0000 Message-ID: <650AA355E323C34D9D4AAEED952E053D3FBE9B63@SV-EXDB-PROD1.infinera.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.100.96.93] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_650AA355E323C34D9D4AAEED952E053D3FBE9B63SVEXDBPROD1infi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a WG document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 17:40:48 -0000 --_000_650AA355E323C34D9D4AAEED952E053D3FBE9B63SVEXDBPROD1infi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes/support Thx Rajan From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of B= RUNGARD, DEBORAH A Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 12:35 PM To: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a WG= document All, This is to start a two week poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-= fwk-03 a ccamp working group document. Please send email to the list indica= ting "yes/support" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state y= our technical reservations with the document. The poll ends Monday, September 30th. Thanks, Deborah and Lou --_000_650AA355E323C34D9D4AAEED952E053D3FBE9B63SVEXDBPROD1infi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes/support

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Thx

Rajan

 <= /p>

From: ccamp-bo= unces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 12:35 PM
To: ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-= 03 a WG document

 

All,

 

This is to start a two week poll on mak= ing draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a ccamp working group document. = Please send email to the list indicating “yes/support” or “no/do not support”. If indicating no, please state your techn= ical reservations with the document.

 

The poll ends Monday, September 30th.

 

Thanks,

Deborah and Lou

 

 

--_000_650AA355E323C34D9D4AAEED952E053D3FBE9B63SVEXDBPROD1infi_-- From msosa@infinera.com Fri Sep 20 14:38:27 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6517521F9EF2 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 14:38:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YxG-b-74t0Tg for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 14:38:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sv-casht-prod2.infinera.com (sv-casht-prod2.infinera.com [8.4.225.25]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECDCD21F9EF0 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 14:38:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SV-EXDB-PROD1.infinera.com ([fe80::dc68:4e20:6002:a8f9]) by sv-casht-prod2.infinera.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 14:38:22 -0700 From: Marco Sosa To: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" , "ccamp@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a WG document Thread-Index: AQHOtiiQi92SIBxtAEqee+N7ji3735nO+ZGQ Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 21:38:21 +0000 Message-ID: <589607FC5DA65940AE5E96188CFA01B30B86173E@SV-EXDB-PROD1.infinera.com> References: <650AA355E323C34D9D4AAEED952E053D3FBE9B63@SV-EXDB-PROD1.infinera.com> In-Reply-To: <650AA355E323C34D9D4AAEED952E053D3FBE9B63@SV-EXDB-PROD1.infinera.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.100.96.93] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_589607FC5DA65940AE5E96188CFA01B30B86173ESVEXDBPROD1infi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a WG document X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 21:38:27 -0000 --_000_589607FC5DA65940AE5E96188CFA01B30B86173ESVEXDBPROD1infi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes/support Marco From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-b= ounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 12:35 PM To: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a WG= document All, This is to start a two week poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-= fwk-03 a ccamp working group document. Please send email to the list indica= ting "yes/support" or "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state y= our technical reservations with the document. The poll ends Monday, September 30th. Thanks, Deborah and Lou --_000_589607FC5DA65940AE5E96188CFA01B30B86173ESVEXDBPROD1infi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes/support

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Marco

 <= /p>

From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 12:35 PM
To: ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: [CCAMP] Poll on making draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-= 03 a WG document

 

All,

 

This is to start a two week poll on mak= ing draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03 a ccamp working group document. = Please send email to the list indicating “yes/support” or “no/do not support”. If indicating no, please state your techn= ical reservations with the document.

 

The poll ends Monday, September 30th.

 

Thanks,

Deborah and Lou

 

 

--_000_589607FC5DA65940AE5E96188CFA01B30B86173ESVEXDBPROD1infi_-- From internet-drafts@ietf.org Sun Sep 22 01:57:55 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C4721F9F21; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 01:57:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.576 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.576 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.024, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rj02XPhWTkE0; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 01:57:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F96721F9EE5; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 01:57:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.72 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20130922085755.12470.42779.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 01:57:55 -0700 Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-15.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 08:57:55 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Work= ing Group of the IETF. Title : Framework for GMPLS and PCE Control of G.709 Optical Tra= nsport Networks Author(s) : Fatai Zhang Dan Li Han Li Sergio Belotti Daniele Ceccarelli Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-15.txt Pages : 27 Date : 2013-09-22 Abstract: This document provides a framework to allow the development of protocol extensions to support Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) and Path Computation Element (PCE) control of Optical Transport Networks (OTN) as specified in ITU-T Recommendation G.709 as published in 2012. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-15 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-15 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From zhangfatai@huawei.com Sun Sep 22 02:11:26 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD14021F9F01 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 02:11:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C3XODZ7J1L7N for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 02:11:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB2B21F9EF2 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 02:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml204-edg.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.5-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id AVS73293; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 09:11:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML404-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.218) by lhreml204-edg.china.huawei.com (172.18.7.223) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 10:10:30 +0100 Received: from SZXEMA408-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.72.40) by lhreml404-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.218) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 10:11:07 +0100 Received: from SZXEMA504-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.8.86]) by SZXEMA408-HUB.china.huawei.com ([10.82.72.40]) with mapi id 14.03.0146.000; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 17:11:00 +0800 From: Fatai Zhang To: "adrian@olddog.co.uk" , "'Lou Berger'" Thread-Topic: Jari Arkko's No Objection on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-14: (with COMMENT) Thread-Index: AQHOsHWiSdiLfM+Xwk2+0DYt24G/7pnEanwggAUpKQCAB+/gYA== Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 09:10:59 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20130912160455.20829.56903.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <010401ceafd5$9f53b0c0$ddfb1240$@olddog.co.uk> <95299064.1379071967367@mail.labn.net> <02a201ceb3bd$573a6a40$05af3ec0$@olddog.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <02a201ceb3bd$573a6a40$05af3ec0$@olddog.co.uk> Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.66.72.159] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_F82A4B6D50F9464B8EBA55651F541CF85CA749E4SZXEMA504MBSchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework@tools.ietf.org" , "ccamp-chairs@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Jari Arkko's No Objection on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-14: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 09:11:26 -0000 --_000_F82A4B6D50F9464B8EBA55651F541CF85CA749E4SZXEMA504MBSchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Adrian, A new version (version 15) has been submitted to address the following comm= ents. For Tomonori's comments, I also sent a mail to describe how to address thos= e comments (http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg15220.htm= l) a few weeks ago. Please check the version 15 to see if all comments have been addressed corr= ectly. Best Regards Fatai -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:48 PM To: Fatai Zhang; 'Lou Berger' Cc: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework@tools.ietf.org; 'Daniele Ceccarel= li'; 'BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO)'; ccamp-chairs@tools.ietf.org Subject: RE: Jari Arkko's No Objection on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-frame= work-14: (with COMMENT) Hello, It looks like I have only been getting some of the emails on this thread. (Lou, is my ISP doing reverse DNS lookup on your emails again?) I *am* hoping to see a revision of this document to pick up: - Changes for Tomonori's Routing Directorate review as recorded in my Comme= nt - The text change I proposed to address Russ' Gen Art review as in Jari's Comment - Spencer's change of "underlined" to "underlying" - A possible piece of text from Lou although it may be he has the docs mixe= d up Thanks, Adrian > -----Original Message----- > From: Fatai Zhang [mailto:zhangfatai@huawei.com] > Sent: 14 September 2013 02:02 > To: Lou Berger > Cc: adrian@olddog.co.uk; draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709- > framework@tools.ietf.org; Daniele Ceccarelli; BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO); c= camp- > chairs@tools.ietf.org; 'Jari Arkko'; housley@vigilsec.com > Subject: RE: Jari Arkko's No Objection on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709- > framework-14: (with COMMENT) > > Hi Lou, > > Thanks. I am waiting for your comments. > > Note that this draft is [G709-FWK] instead of [G709-RSVP], so there is no= OAM > new section, :-) > > > > > > Best Regards > > Fatai > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 7:37 PM > To: Fatai Zhang > Cc: adrian@olddog.co.uk; draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709- > framework@tools.ietf.org; Daniele Ceccarelli; BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO); c= camp- > chairs@tools.ietf.org; 'Jari Arkko'; housley@vigilsec.com > Subject: Re: Jari Arkko's No Objection on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709- > framework-14: (with COMMENT) > > Fatai, > > It looks to me that another rev is needed to cover this comment and some = rough > text in the new OAM section. I'll send my comments on the latter within t= he next > few days. In the interim, others/coauthors should feel free to send their > suggested improvements if they have any. > > Lou > > On 2:12am, September 13, 2013, Fatai Zhang wrote: > > Hi Adrian, > > > > I find it seems that it is not required to update the document for the authors > when I tried to update the document by examining your mail again, :-) > > > > I would like to repeat: It is OK with that text. > > > > Please confirm if the authors need to provide a new version to address = the > comments. > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > Fatai > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Fatai Zhang > > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 9:56 AM > > To: 'adrian@olddog.co.uk'; draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709- > framework@tools.ietf.org; Daniele Ceccarelli; 'BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO)' > > Cc: ccamp-chairs@tools.ietf.org; 'Jari Arkko'; housley@vigilsec.com > > Subject: RE: Jari Arkko's No Objection on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709- > framework-14: (with COMMENT) > > > > Hi Adrian, > > > > I am fine with your proposed text. > > > > Will update the document soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > Fatai > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk] > > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 12:32 AM > > To: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework@tools.ietf.org > > Cc: ccamp-chairs@tools.ietf.org; 'Jari Arkko'; housley@vigilsec.com > > Subject: RE: Jari Arkko's No Objection on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709- > framework-14: (with COMMENT) > > > > Authors, > > > > In discussion with Jari and Russ on today's IESG conference call, we ag= reed that > including some text like that below would be helpful... > > > > In general, throughout this document, 'ODUj' is used to refer to ODU entities > acting as LO ODU, and 'ODUk' is used to refer to ODU entities being used = as HO > ODU. > > > > > > ...Would you be OK with that text (i.e., is it correct!) > > > > Thanks, > > Adrian > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: iesg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:iesg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf = Of > Jari > > > Arkko > > > Sent: 12 September 2013 17:05 > > > To: The IESG > > > Cc: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework@tools.ietf.org; ccamp- > > > chairs@tools.ietf.org > > > Subject: Jari Arkko's No Objection on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709- > framework- > > > 14: (with COMMENT) > > > > > > Jari Arkko has entered the following ballot position for > > > draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-14: No Objection > > > > > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > > > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut th= is > > > introductory paragraph, however.) > > > > > > > > > Please refer to http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.h= tml > > > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > > > > > > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > > > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework= / > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > > COMMENT: > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------= - > > > > > > Thank you for writing this document, and it is generally ready to mov= e > > > forward. However, I was concerned with one minor detail which seems t= hat > > > there is some unclarity with a term. > > > > > > First, the document says: > > > > > > LO ODU: Lower Order ODU. The LO ODUj (j can be 0, 1, 2, 2e, 3, 4, > > > flex.) represents the container transporting a client of the OTN that > > > is either directly mapped into an OTUk (k =3D j) or multiplexed into = a > > > server HO ODUk (k > j) container. > > > > > > HO ODU: Higher Order ODU. The HO ODUk (k can be 1, 2, 2e, 3, 4.) > > > represents the entity transporting a multiplex of LO ODUj tributary > > > signals in its OPUk area. > > > > > > and then later, it says: > > > > > > With the evolution and > > > deployment of OTN technology many new features have been specified in > > > ITU-T recommendations, including for example, new ODU0, ODU2e, ODU4 > > > and ODUflex containers as described in [G709-2012]. > > > > > > But it is unclear if this is referring to LO or HO ODUs or both, or > > > something else. Could this be clarified, or did I missunderstand > > > something? > > > > > > --_000_F82A4B6D50F9464B8EBA55651F541CF85CA749E4SZXEMA504MBSchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi A= drian,

 

A ne= w version (version 15) has been submitted to address the following comments= .

 

For = Tomonori's comments, I also sent a mail to describe how to address those co= mments (http://www.iet= f.org/mail-archive/web/ccamp/current/msg15220.html) a few weeks ago.

 

Plea= se check the version 15 to see if all comments have been addressed correctl= y.

 

 

 

Best= Regards

 

Fata= i

 

 

-----Original Message----- From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:48 PM
To: Fatai Zhang; 'Lou Berger'
Cc: draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework@tools.ietf.org; 'Daniele Ceccarel= li'; 'BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO)'; ccamp-chairs@tools.ietf.org
Subject: RE: Jari Arkko's No Objection on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-frame= work-14: (with COMMENT)

 

Hello,

 

It looks like I have only be= en getting some of the emails on this thread.

(Lou, is my ISP doing revers= e DNS lookup on your emails again?)

 

I *am* hoping to see a revis= ion of this document to pick up:

 

- Changes for Tomonori's Rou= ting Directorate review as recorded in my Comment

- The text change I proposed= to address Russ' Gen Art review as in Jari's

Comment

- Spencer's change of "= underlined" to "underlying"

- A possible piece of text f= rom Lou although it may be he has the docs mixed up

 

Thanks,

Adrian

 

 

> -----Original Message--= ---

> From: Fatai Zhang [mail= to:zhangfatai@huawei.com]

> Sent: 14 September 2013= 02:02

> To: Lou Berger

> Cc: adrian@olddog.co.uk= ; draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-

> framework@tools.ietf.or= g; Daniele Ceccarelli; BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO); ccamp-

> chairs@tools.ietf.org; = 'Jari Arkko'; housley@vigilsec.com

> Subject: RE: Jari Arkko= 's No Objection on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-

> framework-14: (with COM= MENT)

>

> Hi Lou,

>

> Thanks. I am waiting fo= r your comments.

>

> Note that this draft is= [G709-FWK] instead of [G709-RSVP], so there is no OAM

> new section, :-)

>

>

>

>

>

> Best Regards=

>

> Fatai=

>

> -----Original Message--= ---

> From: Lou Berger [mailt= o:lberger@labn.net]

> Sent: Friday, September= 13, 2013 7:37 PM

> To: Fatai Zhang

> Cc: adrian@olddog.co.uk= ; draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-

> framework@tools.ietf.or= g; Daniele Ceccarelli; BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO); ccamp-

> chairs@tools.ietf.org; = 'Jari Arkko'; housley@vigilsec.com

> Subject: Re: Jari Arkko= 's No Objection on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-

> framework-14: (with COM= MENT)

>

> Fatai,

>

> It looks to me that ano= ther rev is needed to cover this comment and some rough

> text in the new OAM sec= tion. I'll send my comments on the latter within the

next

> few days. In the interi= m, others/coauthors should feel free to send their

> suggested improvements = if they have any.

>

> Lou

>

> On 2:12am, September 13= , 2013, Fatai Zhang wrote:

> > Hi Adrian,

> ><= /p>

> > I find it seems th= at it is not required to update the document for the

authors

> when I tried to update = the document by examining your mail again, :-)

> ><= /p>

> > I would like to re= peat: It is OK with that text.

> ><= /p>

> > Please confirm if = the authors need to provide a new version to address the<= /p>

> comments.

> ><= /p>

> ><= /p>

> ><= /p>

> > Best Regards<= /o:p>

> ><= /p>

> > Fatai

> ><= /p>

> ><= /p>

> > -----Original Mess= age-----

> > From: Fatai Zhang<= o:p>

> > Sent: Friday, Sept= ember 13, 2013 9:56 AM

> > To: 'adrian@olddog= .co.uk'; draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-

> framework@tools.ietf.or= g; Daniele Ceccarelli; 'BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO)'

> > Cc: ccamp-chairs@t= ools.ietf.org; 'Jari Arkko'; housley@vigilsec.com

> > Subject: RE: Jari = Arkko's No Objection on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-

> framework-14: (with COM= MENT)

> ><= /p>

> > Hi Adrian,

> ><= /p>

> > I am fine with you= r proposed text.

> ><= /p>

> > Will update the do= cument soon.

> ><= /p>

> ><= /p>

> ><= /p>

> ><= /p>

> ><= /p>

> > Best Regards<= /o:p>

> ><= /p>

> > Fatai

> ><= /p>

> ><= /p>

> > -----Original Mess= age-----

> > From: Adrian Farre= l [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk]

> > Sent: Friday, Sept= ember 13, 2013 12:32 AM

> > To: draft-ietf-cca= mp-gmpls-g709-framework@tools.ietf.org

> > Cc: ccamp-chairs@t= ools.ietf.org; 'Jari Arkko'; housley@vigilsec.com

> > Subject: RE: Jari = Arkko's No Objection on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-

> framework-14: (with COM= MENT)

> ><= /p>

> > Authors,

> ><= /p>

> > In discussion with= Jari and Russ on today's IESG conference call, we agreed=

that

> including some text lik= e that below would be helpful...

> ><= /p>

> > In general, throug= hout this document, 'ODUj' is used to refer to ODU

entities

> acting as LO ODU, and '= ODUk' is used to refer to ODU entities being used as HO

> ODU.<= /p>

> ><= /p>

> ><= /p>

> > ...Would you be OK= with that text (i.e., is it correct!)

> ><= /p>

> > Thanks,=

> > Adrian<= /span>

> ><= /p>

> > > -----Original= Message-----

> > > From: iesg-bo= unces@ietf.org [mailto:iesg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of

> Jari<= /p>

> > > Arkko

> > > Sent: 12 Sept= ember 2013 17:05

> > > To: The IESG<= o:p>

> > > Cc: draft-iet= f-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework@tools.ietf.org; ccamp-

> > > chairs@tools.= ietf.org

> > > Subject: Jari= Arkko's No Objection on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-

> framework-

> > > 14: (with COM= MENT)

> > >

> > > Jari Arkko ha= s entered the following ballot position for

> > > draft-ietf-cc= amp-gmpls-g709-framework-14: No Objection

> > >

> > > When respondi= ng, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all<= /p>

> > > email address= es included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this

> > > introductory = paragraph, however.)

> > >

> > >

> > > Please refer = to http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html

> > > for more info= rmation about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions.

> > >

> > >

> > > The document,= along with other ballot positions, can be found here:

> > > http://datatr= acker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework/=

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -------------= ---------------------------------------------------------=

> > > COMMENT:=

> > > -------------= ---------------------------------------------------------=

> > >

> > > Thank you for= writing this document, and it is generally ready to move=

> > > forward. Howe= ver, I was concerned with one minor detail which seems that

> > > there is some= unclarity with a term.

> > >

> > > First, the do= cument says:

> > >

> > > LO ODU: Lower= Order ODU. The LO ODUj (j can be 0, 1, 2, 2e, 3, 4,

> > > flex.) repres= ents the container transporting a client of the OTN that<= /p>

> > > is either dir= ectly mapped into an OTUk (k =3D j) or multiplexed into a=

> > > server HO ODU= k (k > j) container.

> > >

> > > HO ODU: Highe= r Order ODU. The HO ODUk (k can be 1, 2, 2e, 3, 4.)

> > > represents th= e entity transporting a multiplex of LO ODUj tributary

> > > signals in it= s OPUk area.

> > >

> > > and then late= r, it says:

> > >

> > > With the evol= ution and

> > > deployment of= OTN technology many new features have been specified in<= /p>

> > > ITU-T recomme= ndations, including for example, new ODU0, ODU2e, ODU4

> > > and ODUflex c= ontainers as described in [G709-2012].

> > >

> > > But it is unc= lear if this is referring to LO or HO ODUs or both, or

> > > something els= e. Could this be clarified, or did I missunderstand

> > > something?

> ><= /p>

> ><= /p>

> ><= /p>

 

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Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:42:56 +0900 (JST) Received: from dmailsv1.y.ecl.ntt.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postfix.imss71 (Postfix) with ESMTP id 006F2A0C98; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:42:56 +0900 (JST) Received: from mailsva.y.ecl.ntt.co.jp (mailsva.y.ecl.ntt.co.jp [129.60.53.228]) by dmailsv1.y.ecl.ntt.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C82A0B1B; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:42:55 +0900 (JST) Received: from imajukuwataru (wipc.onlab.ntt.co.jp [129.60.125.84]) by mailsva.y.ecl.ntt.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id D982C400894; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:42:55 +0900 (JST) From: "Wataru Imajuku" To: "'Diego Caviglia'" , "'PELOSO, PIERRE \(PIERRE\)'" , "'Lou Berger'" , , , , , , , , "'Daniele Ceccarelli'" , , , , Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:43:07 +0900 Message-ID: <000301ceb7ed$7d1abec0$77503c40$@lab.ntt.co.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac637UG+Id9KzScsT06NAzvBG0ru2A== Content-Language: ja X-TM-AS-MML: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 04:39:09 -0700 Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-info X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 23:43:45 -0000 Hi, all, No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-info. Thanks, Wataru -----Original Message----- From: Wataru Imajuku [mailto:imajuku.wataru@lab.ntt.co.jp]=20 Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 5:02 PM To: 'Diego Caviglia'; 'PELOSO, PIERRE (PIERRE)'; 'Lou Berger'; 'anders.gavler@acreo.se'; 'jonas.martensson@acreo.se'; 'i-nishioka@cb.jp.nec.com'; 'cyril.margaria@nsn.com'; = 'giomarti@cisco.com'; 'ggalimbe@cisco.com'; 'lyong@ciena.com'; 'Daniele Ceccarelli'; 'gregb@grotto-networking.com'; 'leeyoung@huawei.com'; = 'danli@huawei.com'; 'hanjianrui@huawei.com' Cc: 'ccamp@ietf.org' Subject: RE: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode Hi, all, I want to apologize for the delay of response. I came back to NTT Labs from NTT's U.S. subsidiary this summer. It was five year service in NTT subsidiaries since I left NTT Labs in = 2008. =20 No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Thanks, Wataru Imajuku, Ph.D. Supervisor @ NTT Network Innovation Labs. -----Original Message----- From: Diego Caviglia [mailto:diego.caviglia@ericsson.com] Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 3:10 PM To: PELOSO, PIERRE (PIERRE); Lou Berger; anders.gavler@acreo.se; jonas.martensson@acreo.se; i-nishioka@cb.jp.nec.com; = cyril.margaria@nsn.com; giomarti@cisco.com; ggalimbe@cisco.com; lyong@ciena.com; Daniele = Ceccarelli; gregb@grotto-networking.com; leeyoung@huawei.com; danli@huawei.com; imajuku.wataru@lab.ntt.co.jp; hanjianrui@huawei.com Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: RE: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode Hi all Apologies for the delay, no IPR I'm aware of on this ID. BR D > -----Original Message----- > From: PELOSO, PIERRE (PIERRE) > [mailto:pierre.peloso@alcatel-lucent.com] > Sent: gioved=EC 12 settembre 2013 09:14 > To: Lou Berger; Diego Caviglia; anders.gavler@acreo.se;=20 > jonas.martensson@acreo.se; i-nishioka@cb.jp.nec.com;=20 > cyril.margaria@nsn.com; giomarti@cisco.com; ggalimbe@cisco.com;=20 > lyong@ciena.com; Daniele Ceccarelli; gregb@grotto-networking.com;=20 > leeyoung@huawei.com; danli@huawei.com; imajuku.wataru@lab.ntt.co.jp;=20 > hanjianrui@huawei.com > Cc: ccamp@ietf.org > Subject: RE: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode >=20 > Hi all, >=20 > Sorry for latency, >=20 > No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Pierre >=20 > -----Message d'origine----- > De=A0: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] Envoy=E9=A0: jeudi 18 = juillet > 2013 21:05 =C0=A0: diego.caviglia@ericsson.com; = anders.gavler@acreo.se;=20 > jonas.martensson@acreo.se; i-nishioka@cb.jp.nec.com; PELOSO, PIERRE=20 > (PIERRE); cyril.margaria@nsn.com; giomarti@cisco.com;=20 > ggalimbe@cisco.com; lyong@ciena.com; daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com;=20 > gregb@grotto-networking.com; leeyoung@huawei.com; danli@huawei.com;=20 > imajuku.wataru@lab.ntt.co.jp; hanjianrui@huawei.com Cc=A0: > ccamp@ietf.org Objet=A0: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-=20 > encode >=20 > Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) >=20 > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: >=20 > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? >=20 > Please state either: >=20 > "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" > or > "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" >=20 > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules=20 > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? >=20 > If yes to the above, please state either: >=20 > "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" > or > "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" >=20 > If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think > appropriate. >=20 > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer=20 > the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you = > are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the=20 > next stage until a response has been received from each author and = listed contributor. > NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. >=20 > If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author=20 > or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR=20 > rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR=20 > of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in = > any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For=20 > more information, please see the RFCs listed above and=20 > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. >=20 > Thank you, > CCAMP WG Chairs >=20 > PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your=20 > response. 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Hi Autumn,

 

Thanks for the comments.

Sorry for the late reply, we just had a mid-autumn holiday. Please = see my reply below.

 

BR,

Amy

=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Autumn Liu [autumn.liu= @ericsson.com]
=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2013=C4=EA9=D4=C219=C8=D5 11:28
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: Yemin (Amy); Yuji Tochio; ccamp@ietf.org
=D6=F7=CC=E2: RE: [CCAMP] =B4=F0=B8=B4: draft-long-ccamp-rsvp-te-ban= dwidth-availability-01

Hi Amy,
 
If the bandwidth on the link betw= een B and C could not meet the requirement for PATH message, why the PATH i= s forwarded to C at the first place?
[Amy] When A initiates the PATH m= essage, if bandwidth on the link between B and C could not meet the require= ment, C should return the PATHERR to A, the PATH is not forwarded to C. Maybe some misunderstanding here.
 
There are existing SENDER TSPEC o= bjects, can they co-exist with new tspec object? It does not seem so. The s= ame question applies to flowspec.
[Amy] We don't want to introduce = a new tspec nor flowspec object. The availability TLV is proposed= to use as the sub_TLV of Ethernet banwidth profiles. I guess the inconsistent with existing SENDER TSPEC, the "class-speci= fic information", leads to this question. I will fix it. 
 
Is it assumed that the nodes alon= g the path will all support <availability, bandwidth>? If not, it wil= l be good to describe how old sender tspec objects can pass the cac with <availablity, banddith>, or new object goes th= rough the cac without taking the availablity into account.
[Amy] The nodes along the path ar= e not required to support the <bandwidth, availability>. The descripa= tion on how to ignore will be added in next version.
 
section 3.1, class-num for sender= _tspec should be tbd, 12 is used for ethernet tspec object already.<= /font>
[Amy] 12 is the class-num for gen= eric sender_tspec. class type 6 is used to ethernet tspec. So I think it's = ok to use 12.
     &nb= sp;           class-speci= fic information : what is this?
[Amy]  I will modify it to m= ake sure it's consisten with RFC 6003.
 
3.1.1  Where will availabili= ty sub-TLV in new bandwidth profile TLV, before traffic parameter or after?= It seems the draft is extending RFC 6003 ethernet sender tspec, so flag 3 is used on profile.
[Amy] I perfer to put the availab= ility sub_TLV after the traffic parameter. Yes, the draft is extending RFC6= 003.
 
Thanks,
Autumn
 

From: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailt= o:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Yemin (Amy)
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 1:21 AM
To: Yuji Tochio; ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: [CCAMP] =B4=F0=B8=B4: draft-long-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-av= ailability-01

Hi Yuji,

 

Thanks for the question c= larification.

 

Presuming the link blow:<= /span>

A------ B - - - - C -----= -D

 

The dash line represents = the link with discrete variable bandwidth.

 

When the bandwidth requir= ements couldn't be satisfied on the link between B and C,  it should b= e C to return the PATHERR message.

 

It might be not clear in = the current draft, I will update the draft to make it clear.

 

BR,

Amy

=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces= @ietf.org] =B4=FA=B1=ED Yuji Tochio
=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2013=C4=EA9=D4= =C217=C8=D5 16:54
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: ccamp@ietf.org
=D6=F7=CC=E2: Re: [CCAMP] draft-long-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability-01

 

Hi all

FYI:
As to #4 (comment from me) below, I had offline talk with Amy via e-mail an= d
she has understood the point.
So I believe the editors will update the draft per my comments.

Thanks, Yuji

(2013/08/01 17:59), Amy wrote:

 

 

 

 




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Halpern" Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model-11.txt Thread-Index: AQHOrVZHxRDnDyHdEEyWPohPw9hLvZnXx7Ag Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 08:50:19 +0000 Message-ID: References: <522DBBBC.7050103@joelhalpern.com> In-Reply-To: <522DBBBC.7050103@joelhalpern.com> Accept-Language: it-IT, en-US Content-Language: it-IT X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.239.27.38] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.39 Cc: "rtg-dir@ietf.org" , CCAMP WG , "draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model.all@tools.ietf.org" , "rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org" Subject: [CCAMP] R: RtgDir review: draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model-11.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 08:50:35 -0000 Hello Joel, thanks for your comments. Below in line our reply, marked "authors". Best Regards The authors Belotti Sergio- System Architect ALCATE-LUCENT Optics Division via Trento 30 Vimercate (MB) - Italy phone +39 (039) 6863033 -----Messaggio originale----- Da: ccamp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] Per conto di Joe= l M. Halpern Inviato: luned=EC 9 settembre 2013 14:15 A: rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org; rtg-dir@ietf.org; draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info= -model.all@tools.ietf.org; CCAMP WG Oggetto: [CCAMP] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model-11.txt Hello, I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft.=20 The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related draf= ts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes on sp= ecial request. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to the Ro= uting ADs. For more information about the Routing Directorate, please see h= ttp://www.ietf.org/iesg/directorate/routing.html Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it wo= uld be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last Ca= ll comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion= or by updating the draft. Document: draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model-11.txt Reviewer: Joel Halpern Review Date: 9-September-2013 IETF LC End Date: 19-Sept-2013 Intended Status: Informational Summary: I have some minor concerns about this document that I think should= be resolved before publication. Comments: In general, the document needs to be consistently clear as to what gap= s it identifies. Many cases are quite clear, and some are not. I will try= to identify the less clear cases in the comments below. The last paragraph= of section 3.2 is clear and explicit, and what I expected at the end of ea= ch section. The previous paragraph ("Specific information could be defined= ") is much less helpful. Moderate Issues: It is unclear if there are gaps or requirements identified by sections= 3.1.1 or 3.1.2. Authors> The scope of both paragraph are not to suggest gaps or requirement= s but to describe data plane characteristics that are useful in the follow = of the doc. Particularly they introduce the relationship between payload ty= pe concept in OTN and the Tributary Slot granularity, and this relation is = reported in the session 3.2 in which specific CP requirements are defined. Given that this document is about mapping to G.709, it is unclear what= is intended by the usage of "LSP". My guess is that it is intended to mea= n Label Switch Paths set up by GMPLS to carry OTU/UDU elements.=20 It should be stated explicitly. Authors> We can specify this as you suggest even if we considered not neces= sary to specify the usage of LSP in relation to data plane specific. Encodi= ng type should cope with this issue.=20 Minor Issues: All acronyms should be expanded upon first use. Authors> OK In section 2 particularly, the OCh (Optical Channel?) should also be c= lear how that relates to the OTU and ODU being discussed. Authors> OK, you're right Figure 4 uses the abbreviation TSG, which is not defined, and not used= elsewhere. If it is needed in the figure, it might suffice to follow "TS = granularity" in the caption with "(TSG)". Authors> We can add TSG at the beginning of chapter 3.2 when TS granularity= is mentioned Section 8 on Maximum LSP Bandwdith seems to be objecting to too much i= nformation leading to a "waste of bits". While possibly of interest to the= WG, that does not seem to fit a gap analysis. Similarly, section 10 on Priority Support reads as implementation advi= ce rather than a gap needing protocol changes. Authors> The basic scope of the draft is to underline gaps, and even if wha= t described in Ch.8 and 10, do not prevent routing to work , it is suggeste= d here an requirement for optimization based on OTN requirements (e.g. no n= eed to advertise fixed ODU container Max LSP BW since implicit in the signa= l type.) Nit: _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From ggalimbe@cisco.com Thu Sep 26 09:30:16 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEADF21F8E51 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:30:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.265 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.265 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.334, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h3GBxnlQGSd9 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com [173.37.86.75]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F5C921F90CF for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:30:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2130; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1380213008; x=1381422608; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to: content-id:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=tpTPI/5WS697aR21NfnZxkxmRb+VAxsJLkHhpmEshsI=; b=AWNLGh5RcQ4fxyF8m4m29mHxHudBDkmNDSDo0Oo3SBIpy++zP03L5hfR PtmDrFJLsCWESKSXeR/qTkY1N6j5w64zSUBryx4ytT5mE4oAOI7Du6vNd Db5YbIGP2q2cnSBqCIVzHf/9tT1mHF4AdBk5OeDhN6cFcT+0tO8Be0Oc+ U=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiEFAGJgRFKtJV2d/2dsb2JhbABbgwc4UsBUgSAWdIInAQQ6DysFDgQBCA4UFCsXJQIEAQ0FCId+DLw+BI4EgRgxB4MdgQEDmSyQSYMkgXE5 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.90,986,1371081600"; d="scan'208";a="264960904" Received: from rcdn-core-6.cisco.com ([173.37.93.157]) by rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 26 Sep 2013 16:30:07 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x12.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x12.cisco.com [173.36.12.86]) by rcdn-core-6.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r8QGU7Th001615 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Thu, 26 Sep 2013 16:30:07 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-x09.cisco.com ([169.254.9.212]) by xhc-aln-x12.cisco.com ([173.36.12.86]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 11:30:07 -0500 From: "Gabriele Maria Galimberti (ggalimbe)" To: Lou Berger , "diego.caviglia@ericsson.com" , "anders.gavler@acreo.se" , "jonas.martensson@acreo.se" , "i-nishioka@cb.jp.nec.com" , "pierre.peloso@alcatel-lucent.com" , "cyril.margaria@nsn.com" , "Giovanni Martinelli (giomarti)" , "lyong@ciena.com" , "daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com" , "gregb@grotto-networking.com" , "leeyoung@huawei.com" , "danli@huawei.com" , "imajuku.wataru@lab.ntt.co.jp" , "hanjianrui@huawei.com" Thread-Topic: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode Thread-Index: AQHOutWokY3h0kQUZ0GPdOBsWd7h7Q== Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 16:30:06 +0000 Message-ID: <7802FF1A01070C449CCE96E5CD2CC77988365F@xmb-rcd-x09.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <51E83C4F.8090502@labn.net> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.2.120421 x-originating-ip: [144.254.172.53] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <35C2E42BC1BC5B46BE675D536B0DA777@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 16:30:17 -0000 I am NOT aware of any IPR that apply to this draft Regards,=20 Gabriele Gabriele Galimberti Technical Leader Cisco Photonics Srl Via Philips, 12 20900 - Monza (MI) Italy www.cisco.com/global/IT/ ggalimbe@cisco.com Phone :+39 039 2091462 Mobile :+39 335 7481947 Fax :+39 039 2092049 On 7/18/13 9:04 PM, "Lou Berger" wrote: >Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) > >As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: > >Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? > > Please state either: > > "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" > or > "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" > >If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules >(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? > > If yes to the above, please state either: > > "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" > or > "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" > > If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think > appropriate. > >If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the >above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are >aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next >stage until a response has been received from each author and listed >contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS >MESSAGE'S TO LINES. > >If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or >contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules >which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of >others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any >contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more >information, please see the RFCs listed above and >http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. > >Thank you, >CCAMP WG Chairs > >PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your >response. From lberger@labn.net Thu Sep 26 13:24:25 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30B421F9946 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 13:24:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.903 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.903 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.696, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UWZCQouQAN7X for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 13:24:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oproxy12-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (oproxy12-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [50.87.16.10]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 62E3321F9B28 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 13:24:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 22929 invoked by uid 0); 26 Sep 2013 20:23:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by oproxy12.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 26 Sep 2013 20:23:49 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:CC:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=HCsAnZcYQ0dFbuplbyToQzguAA4eksU2a4qjHphZax8=; b=WV5TWwJ4ZkVvpD38thk2t9rmh32VVi2P07SrjAlyYqh6SCVw83URrgCsO/nGf7hmYHJNeNiHl30mVMkpX9EHeu/+sHWWKc2mtUcyLYuAPpJq+zz65O527Gh/VMrCYGWZ; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:44894 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VPI6H-0000hu-Bs; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 14:23:49 -0600 Message-ID: <524497D6.3030505@labn.net> Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 16:23:50 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniele Ceccarelli References: <20130925080816.29986.49098.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <4A1562797D64E44993C5CBF38CF1BE481580B6@ESESSMB301.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: <4A1562797D64E44993C5CBF38CF1BE481580B6@ESESSMB301.ericsson.se> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Cc: "CCAMP \(ccamp@ietf.org\)" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ceccadedios-ccamp-overlay-use-cases-02.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 20:24:25 -0000 Daniele, So I'm trying to figure out what part of your document isn't in scope of the "framework document". That document also has a use case section. How do you see that section differing from your document? Perhaps you're envisioning that use cases will be stripped out of that document, or that your document will be merged into that document at some point... Thanks, Lou On 9/25/2013 4:19 AM, Daniele Ceccarelli wrote: > Dear CCAMP, > > We just uploaded a new version of the overlay use cases draft. > It reflects most of the comments received during the presentation in > Berlin and now aims at defining a set of "solution agnostic" use > cases for operating networks in the overlay model. > > The reference framework document for this work is > (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-farrel-interconnected-te-info-exchange-01), > while one of the documents exampling *how* the UNI is applicable to > those use cases is described in > (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-zhang-ccamp-gmpls-uni-app-04). > > As you can see this drafts is basically a skeleton seeking for meat. > New use cases and improvements to the existing ones are more than > welcome. > > BR > Daniele (and the authors) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org] > Sent: mercoledì 25 settembre 2013 10:08 > To: Xian Zhang; Fatai Zhang; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios; Daniele Ceccarelli > Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ceccadedios-ccamp-overlay-use-cases-02.txt > > > A new version of I-D, draft-ceccadedios-ccamp-overlay-use-cases-02.txt > has been successfully submitted by Daniele Ceccarelli and posted to the IETF repository. > > Filename: draft-ceccadedios-ccamp-overlay-use-cases > Revision: 02 > Title: Use cases for operating networks in the overlay model context > Creation date: 2013-09-25 > Group: Individual Submission > Number of pages: 14 > URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ceccadedios-ccamp-overlay-use-cases-02.txt > Status: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ceccadedios-ccamp-overlay-use-cases > Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ceccadedios-ccamp-overlay-use-cases-02 > Diff: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ceccadedios-ccamp-overlay-use-cases-02 > > Abstract: > This document defines a set of use cases for operating networks in > the overlay model context through the Generalized Multiprotocol Label > Switching (GMPLS) overlay interfaces. > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > The IETF Secretariat > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Fri Sep 27 07:32:14 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F01411E8159; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 07:32:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.502 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.502 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.098, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7ZGW5SgVsUhh; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 07:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1877721E8097; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 07:32:06 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.72 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20130927143206.11230.3773.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 07:32:06 -0700 Cc: ccamp mailing list , ccamp chair , RFC Editor Subject: [CCAMP] Document Action: 'Framework for GMPLS and PCE Control of G.709 Optical Transport Networks' to Informational RFC (draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-15.txt) X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 14:32:14 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Framework for GMPLS and PCE Control of G.709 Optical Transport Networks' (draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-15.txt) as Informational RFC This document is the product of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Adrian Farrel and Stewart Bryant. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework/ Technical Summary This document provides a framework for protocol extensions to Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) and Path Computation Element (PCE) to support the control of Optical Transport Networks (OTN) specified in ITU-T Recommendation G.709 as published in 2012. A previous version of G.709 was supported by RFC4328. This document is one of four informational and standards track documents going through the publication process as a set. Working Group Summary No controversy or discontent for this document. Nothing of note in the WG process Document Quality This document provides background and an approach to extending existing RFCs for which there are implementations, but does not itself define any protocol mechanisms. The existing RFCs include RFC3471, RFC3473, RFC4202, RFC4203, RFC4204, RFC4328, RFC4655. Personnel Lou Berger is the Document Shepherd? Adrian Farrel the Responsible Area Director? RFC Editor Note Section 8: s/not requests/no requests/ From daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com Fri Sep 27 08:08:24 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD7D11E8156 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 08:08:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.050, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ULcTcUZ6JzSD for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 08:08:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw1.ericsson.se (mailgw1.ericsson.se [193.180.251.45]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72FFF11E814F for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 08:08:04 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb2d-b7f738e000003ee3-5a-52459f470bcd Received: from 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From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "ccamp@ietf.org" References: <51E83C58.6010602@labn.net>, , <576290786.09235@mail.ritt.com.cn>, <578730098.17662@mail.ritt.com.cn>, <201309180916497388040@ritt.cn>, <201309181046074190446@ritt.cn> <579482268.13448@mail.ritt.com.cn> In-Reply-To: <579482268.13448@mail.ritt.com.cn> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Cc: xuyunbin , xuyunbin Subject: [CCAMP] FWD: Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-general-constraints-ospf-te X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 17:17:33 -0000 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I'm forwarding it so it will. Lou -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-general-constraints-ospf-te Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 13:31:02 +0800 From: xuyunbin Reply-To: xuyunbin To: xuyunbin , "Lou Berger" , "Yeyabin (Yabin)" , "Chenming (NWResearch)" , "Fatai Zhang" , Leeyoung , Hanjianrui , "gregb@grotto-networking.com" , zhangguoying , "Lidan (Dan)" CC: ccamp@ietf.org Hi all, Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft and the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules as follows: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=document_search&document_search=draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-general-constraints-ospf-te ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Best Regards ----------------------------------------------------------------- Xu Yunbin Research Institute of Telecommunications Transmission (RITT), China Academy of Telecom. Research (CATR), MIIT TEL: 86-10-62300112, 86-18601328841 E-mail: xuyunbin@ritt.cn , xuyunbin@catr.cn ----------------------------------------------------------------- Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] Fatai Zhang; Leeyoung; Hanjianrui; gregb@grotto-networking.com; xuyunbin@mail.ritt.com.cn; zhangguoying@mail.ritt.com.cn; Lidan (Dan); Chenming (NWResearch); Yeyabin (Yabin) ccamp@ietf.org Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-general-constraints-ospf-te Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. Thank you, CCAMP WG Chairs PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your response. From lberger@labn.net Fri Sep 27 10:38:33 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9D021E8100 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 10:38:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.889 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.889 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.376, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ARWOC9dNrX8y for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 10:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oproxy7-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (oproxy7-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.55.9]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1E26E21F9CDF for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 10:38:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 10745 invoked by uid 0); 27 Sep 2013 17:37:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by oproxy7.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 27 Sep 2013 17:37:57 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:CC:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=p3+STk2vAr9incfOEdaLPDQTj5TyKcJk8B1qKCcRVYA=; b=NFYnZrpP+udxswD8Gq71PrSLLPSJWdo6gZ2nBx+Wtd2IibGahswqYHUO5Swj8JukZd8zfMksEGQoVGmev5gUD1IbzHCdjq0dTSksy1A4K1nkq4TsylcehxdF9z8GkmfL; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:50241 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VPbzJ-00068M-Mj; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 11:37:57 -0600 Message-ID: <5245C274.6090707@labn.net> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 13:37:56 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO)" , "Joel M. Halpern" , "draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model.all@tools.ietf.org" References: <522DBBBC.7050103@joelhalpern.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Cc: "rtg-dir@ietf.org" , CCAMP WG , "rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [RTG-DIR] R: RtgDir review: draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model-11.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 17:38:33 -0000 Joel/Authors, I thought I might jump in on two points: On 9/26/2013 4:50 AM, BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO) wrote: > Hello Joel, > > thanks for your comments. > Below in line our reply, marked "authors". > ... > Given that this document is about mapping to G.709, it is unclear what is intended by the usage of "LSP". My guess is that it is intended to mean Label Switch Paths set up by GMPLS to carry OTU/UDU elements. > It should be stated explicitly. > > Authors> We can specify this as you suggest even if we considered not necessary to specify the usage of LSP in relation to data plane specific. Encoding type should cope with this issue. > Joel, I suspect that the usage of LSP in the absence of the MPLS data plane is what's causing confusion here. Is this correct? If so, I think GMPLS referencing controlled data paths (circuits) by the common name of Label Switched Path (LSP) is sufficiently established that this document doesn't need to revisit it. In any case, the document already provides context: GMPLS routing and signaling, as defined by [RFC4203], [RFC5307], [RFC3473] and [RFC4328], provides the mechanisms for basic GMPLS control of OTN networks based on the 2001 revision of the G.709 specification. and Background information and a framework for the GMPLS protocol extensions need to support [G.709-2012] is provided in [OTN-FWK]. [OTN-FWK] has the often repeated concept: GMPLS extends Multi-Protocol Label Switching (MPLS) to encompass time division multiplexing (TDM) networks (e.g., Synchronous Optical NETwork (SONET)/ Synchronous Digital Hierarchy (SDH), Plesiochronous Digital Hierarchy (PDH), and G.709 sub-lambda), lambda switching optical networks, and spatial switching (e.g., incoming port or fiber to outgoing port or fiber). The GMPLS architecture is provided in [RFC3945], If this doesn't cover the comment, can you elaborate on what you want explicitly stated? > ... > > Section 8 on Maximum LSP Bandwdith seems to be objecting to too much information leading to a "waste of bits". While possibly of interest to the WG, that does not seem to fit a gap analysis. > Similarly, section 10 on Priority Support reads as implementation advice rather than a gap needing protocol changes. > > Authors> The basic scope of the draft is to underline gaps, and even if what described in Ch.8 and 10, do not prevent routing to work , it is suggested here an requirement for optimization based on OTN requirements (e.g. no need to advertise fixed ODU container Max LSP BW since implicit in the signal type.) > Authors, I completely agree with Joel on this point, furthermore sections 10 and 8 overlap. One approach to address his point would be to simply drop both sections. An alternative is try to rephrase them to address Joel's points. I've taken a pass at the latter below, but won't object if the authors prefer the former. Here's a suggested wording change if you choose to keep the sections: OLD: 8. Maximum LSP Bandwidth Maximum LSP bandwidth is currently advertised in the common part of the ISCD and advertised per priority, while in OTN networks it is only required for ODUflex advertising. This leads to a significant waste of bits inside each LSA. and NEW 8. Maximum LSP Bandwidth Maximum LSP bandwidth is currently advertised per priority in the common part of the ISCD. Section 5 reviews some of the implications of advertising OTN network information using ISCDs, and identifies the need for a more optimized solution. While strictly not required, such an optimization effort should also consider the optimization of the per priority maximum LSP bandwidth advertisement of both fixed and variable ODU types. OLD 10. Priority Support [RFC4202] defines 8 priorities for resource availability and usage. All of them have to be advertised independently on the number of priorities supported by the implementation. Considering that the advertisement of all the different supported signal types will originate large LSAs, it is advised to advertise only the information related to the really supported priorities. NEW 10. Priority Support [RFC4202] defines 8 priorities for resource availability and usage. As defined, each is advertised independent of the number of priorities supported by a network. As is the case in Section 8, addressing any inefficiency with such advertisements is not required to support OTN networks. But any such inefficiency should also be considered as part of the optimization effort identified in Section 5. Also please replace "Bw" with "Bandwidth" in the document. Lou From jmh@joelhalpern.com Fri Sep 27 11:30:49 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC28D21F9A6D; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 11:30:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.422 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.422 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.177, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mhKogBPK8u1A; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 11:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailc2.tigertech.net (mailc2.tigertech.net [208.80.4.156]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D867F21F9FC3; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 11:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailc2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B76D5120899; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 11:30:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at c2.tigertech.net Received: from Joels-MacBook-Pro.local (c213-89-137-101.bredband.comhem.se [213.89.137.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailc2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 06C55120890; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 11:30:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5245CED2.5020400@joelhalpern.com> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 14:30:42 -0400 From: "Joel M. Halpern" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lou Berger References: <522DBBBC.7050103@joelhalpern.com> <5245C274.6090707@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <5245C274.6090707@labn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "rtg-dir@ietf.org" , CCAMP WG , "draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model.all@tools.ietf.org" , "rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [RTG-DIR] R: RtgDir review: draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model-11.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 18:30:49 -0000 Lou, thanks for stepping in. With your explanation I can live with the LSP text as it is. I look forward to further conversation on the other point. Yours, Joel On 9/27/13 1:37 PM, Lou Berger wrote: > Joel/Authors, > > I thought I might jump in on two points: > > > On 9/26/2013 4:50 AM, BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO) wrote: >> Hello Joel, >> >> thanks for your comments. >> Below in line our reply, marked "authors". >> > > ... > >> Given that this document is about mapping to G.709, it is unclear what is intended by the usage of "LSP". My guess is that it is intended to mean Label Switch Paths set up by GMPLS to carry OTU/UDU elements. >> It should be stated explicitly. >> >> Authors> We can specify this as you suggest even if we considered not necessary to specify the usage of LSP in relation to data plane specific. Encoding type should cope with this issue. >> > > Joel, > > I suspect that the usage of LSP in the absence of the MPLS data plane is > what's causing confusion here. Is this correct? > > If so, I think GMPLS referencing controlled data paths (circuits) by the > common name of Label Switched Path (LSP) is sufficiently established > that this document doesn't need to revisit it. In any case, the > document already provides context: > > GMPLS routing and signaling, as defined by [RFC4203], [RFC5307], > [RFC3473] and [RFC4328], provides the mechanisms for basic GMPLS > control of OTN networks based on the 2001 revision of the G.709 > specification. > and > Background information and a framework for the GMPLS protocol > extensions need to support [G.709-2012] is provided in [OTN-FWK]. > > [OTN-FWK] has the often repeated concept: > > GMPLS extends Multi-Protocol Label Switching (MPLS) to encompass time > division multiplexing (TDM) networks (e.g., Synchronous Optical > NETwork (SONET)/ Synchronous Digital Hierarchy (SDH), Plesiochronous > Digital Hierarchy (PDH), and G.709 sub-lambda), lambda switching > optical networks, and spatial switching (e.g., incoming port or fiber > to outgoing port or fiber). The GMPLS architecture is provided in > [RFC3945], > > If this doesn't cover the comment, can you elaborate on what you want > explicitly stated? > >> ... >> >> Section 8 on Maximum LSP Bandwdith seems to be objecting to too much information leading to a "waste of bits". While possibly of interest to the WG, that does not seem to fit a gap analysis. >> Similarly, section 10 on Priority Support reads as implementation advice rather than a gap needing protocol changes. >> >> Authors> The basic scope of the draft is to underline gaps, and even if what described in Ch.8 and 10, do not prevent routing to work , it is suggested here an requirement for optimization based on OTN requirements (e.g. no need to advertise fixed ODU container Max LSP BW since implicit in the signal type.) >> > > Authors, > I completely agree with Joel on this point, furthermore sections 10 and > 8 overlap. One approach to address his point would be to simply drop > both sections. An alternative is try to rephrase them to address Joel's > points. I've taken a pass at the latter below, but won't object if the > authors prefer the former. > > Here's a suggested wording change if you choose to keep the sections: > OLD: > 8. Maximum LSP Bandwidth > > Maximum LSP bandwidth is currently advertised in the common part of > the ISCD and advertised per priority, while in OTN networks it is > only required for ODUflex advertising. This leads to a significant > waste of bits inside each LSA. > and > > NEW > 8. Maximum LSP Bandwidth > > Maximum LSP bandwidth is currently advertised per priority in the > common part of the ISCD. Section 5 reviews some of the implications > of advertising OTN network information using ISCDs, and > identifies the need for a more optimized solution. While strictly > not required, such an optimization effort should also consider the > optimization of the per priority maximum LSP bandwidth advertisement > of both fixed and variable ODU types. > > OLD > 10. Priority Support > > [RFC4202] defines 8 priorities for resource availability and usage. > All of them have to be advertised independently on the number of > priorities supported by the implementation. Considering that the > advertisement of all the different supported signal types will > originate large LSAs, it is advised to advertise only the information > related to the really supported priorities. > NEW > 10. Priority Support > > [RFC4202] defines 8 priorities for resource availability and usage. > As defined, each is advertised independent of the number of > priorities supported by a network. As is the case in Section 8, > addressing any inefficiency with such advertisements is not required > to support OTN networks. But any such inefficiency should also be > considered as part of the optimization effort identified in Section > 5. > > Also please replace "Bw" with "Bandwidth" in the document. > > Lou > From lberger@labn.net Fri Sep 27 12:01:17 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265FC21E8114 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 12:01:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.105 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.105 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.466, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.96, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zpWqKjn8xqJ5 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 12:01:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oproxy1-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (oproxy1-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [66.147.249.253]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id DAD2121E8104 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 12:00:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11255 invoked by uid 0); 27 Sep 2013 19:00:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by oproxy1.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 27 Sep 2013 19:00:36 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:CC:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=Bq15L1zE588IiVrAucc2XoNRKit2Rvos3ng8nma2teI=; b=hipj7TBZx5igpqpEcPocx+J1QoO6VOpenKPaN8zoVt9sE76Otmpj1iPsEeHh/BobgV72MH3R8kZcWFuFF4j4Z9xgRGCyZe/GGqTDumfKrjjwbWCmANhUl4/bAjpLCWdH; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:36938 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VPdHI-0005mu-Q0; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 13:00:36 -0600 Message-ID: <5245D5D3.2070303@labn.net> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 15:00:35 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Joel M. Halpern" References: <522DBBBC.7050103@joelhalpern.com> <5245C274.6090707@labn.net> <5245CED2.5020400@joelhalpern.com> In-Reply-To: <5245CED2.5020400@joelhalpern.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Cc: "rtg-dir@ietf.org" , CCAMP WG , "draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model.all@tools.ietf.org" , "rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [RTG-DIR] R: RtgDir review: draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model-11.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 19:01:20 -0000 Joel, Does the proposed altnerate text address your comment (assuming the author's want to keep the sections)? If not, can you suggest changes? Thanks, Lou On 09/27/2013 02:30 PM, Joel M. Halpern wrote: > Lou, thanks for stepping in. > With your explanation I can live with the LSP text as it is. > > I look forward to further conversation on the other point. > > Yours, > Joel > > On 9/27/13 1:37 PM, Lou Berger wrote: >> Joel/Authors, >> >> I thought I might jump in on two points: >> >> >> On 9/26/2013 4:50 AM, BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO) wrote: >>> Hello Joel, >>> >>> thanks for your comments. >>> Below in line our reply, marked "authors". >>> >> >> ... >> >>> Given that this document is about mapping to G.709, it is >>> unclear what is intended by the usage of "LSP". My guess is that it >>> is intended to mean Label Switch Paths set up by GMPLS to carry >>> OTU/UDU elements. >>> It should be stated explicitly. >>> >>> Authors> We can specify this as you suggest even if we considered not >>> necessary to specify the usage of LSP in relation to data plane >>> specific. Encoding type should cope with this issue. >>> >> >> Joel, >> >> I suspect that the usage of LSP in the absence of the MPLS data plane is >> what's causing confusion here. Is this correct? >> >> If so, I think GMPLS referencing controlled data paths (circuits) by the >> common name of Label Switched Path (LSP) is sufficiently established >> that this document doesn't need to revisit it. In any case, the >> document already provides context: >> >> GMPLS routing and signaling, as defined by [RFC4203], [RFC5307], >> [RFC3473] and [RFC4328], provides the mechanisms for basic GMPLS >> control of OTN networks based on the 2001 revision of the G.709 >> specification. >> and >> Background information and a framework for the GMPLS protocol >> extensions need to support [G.709-2012] is provided in [OTN-FWK]. >> >> [OTN-FWK] has the often repeated concept: >> >> GMPLS extends Multi-Protocol Label Switching (MPLS) to encompass time >> division multiplexing (TDM) networks (e.g., Synchronous Optical >> NETwork (SONET)/ Synchronous Digital Hierarchy (SDH), Plesiochronous >> Digital Hierarchy (PDH), and G.709 sub-lambda), lambda switching >> optical networks, and spatial switching (e.g., incoming port or fiber >> to outgoing port or fiber). The GMPLS architecture is provided in >> [RFC3945], >> >> If this doesn't cover the comment, can you elaborate on what you want >> explicitly stated? >> >>> ... >>> >>> Section 8 on Maximum LSP Bandwdith seems to be objecting to too >>> much information leading to a "waste of bits". While possibly of >>> interest to the WG, that does not seem to fit a gap analysis. >>> Similarly, section 10 on Priority Support reads as >>> implementation advice rather than a gap needing protocol changes. >>> >>> Authors> The basic scope of the draft is to underline gaps, and even >>> if what described in Ch.8 and 10, do not prevent routing to work , it >>> is suggested here an requirement for optimization based on OTN >>> requirements (e.g. no need to advertise fixed ODU container Max LSP >>> BW since implicit in the signal type.) >>> >> >> Authors, >> I completely agree with Joel on this point, furthermore sections >> 10 and >> 8 overlap. One approach to address his point would be to simply drop >> both sections. An alternative is try to rephrase them to address Joel's >> points. I've taken a pass at the latter below, but won't object if the >> authors prefer the former. >> >> Here's a suggested wording change if you choose to keep the sections: >> OLD: >> 8. Maximum LSP Bandwidth >> >> Maximum LSP bandwidth is currently advertised in the common part of >> the ISCD and advertised per priority, while in OTN networks it is >> only required for ODUflex advertising. This leads to a significant >> waste of bits inside each LSA. >> and >> >> NEW >> 8. Maximum LSP Bandwidth >> >> Maximum LSP bandwidth is currently advertised per priority in the >> common part of the ISCD. Section 5 reviews some of the implications >> of advertising OTN network information using ISCDs, and >> identifies the need for a more optimized solution. While strictly >> not required, such an optimization effort should also consider the >> optimization of the per priority maximum LSP bandwidth advertisement >> of both fixed and variable ODU types. >> >> OLD >> 10. Priority Support >> >> [RFC4202] defines 8 priorities for resource availability and usage. >> All of them have to be advertised independently on the number of >> priorities supported by the implementation. Considering that the >> advertisement of all the different supported signal types will >> originate large LSAs, it is advised to advertise only the information >> related to the really supported priorities. >> NEW >> 10. Priority Support >> >> [RFC4202] defines 8 priorities for resource availability and usage. >> As defined, each is advertised independent of the number of >> priorities supported by a network. As is the case in Section 8, >> addressing any inefficiency with such advertisements is not required >> to support OTN networks. But any such inefficiency should also be >> considered as part of the optimization effort identified in Section >> 5. >> >> Also please replace "Bw" with "Bandwidth" in the document. >> >> Lou >> > From jmh@joelhalpern.com Fri Sep 27 12:26:21 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEC0821F9F8F; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 12:26:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.432 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.432 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.167, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HhvauI1Ay+dc; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 12:26:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailc2.tigertech.net (mailc2.tigertech.net [208.80.4.156]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4784121F9E00; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 12:26:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailc2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32307122669; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 12:26:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at c2.tigertech.net Received: from Joels-MacBook-Pro.local (c213-89-137-101.bredband.comhem.se [213.89.137.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailc2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 459A4122668; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 12:26:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5245DBD4.8000301@joelhalpern.com> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 15:26:12 -0400 From: "Joel M. Halpern" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lou Berger References: <522DBBBC.7050103@joelhalpern.com> <5245C274.6090707@labn.net> <5245CED2.5020400@joelhalpern.com> <5245D5D3.2070303@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <5245D5D3.2070303@labn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "rtg-dir@ietf.org" , CCAMP WG , "draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model.all@tools.ietf.org" , "rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [RTG-DIR] R: RtgDir review: draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model-11.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 19:26:22 -0000 The proposed alternative text would suffice, although personally I would just remove the two sections. Yours, Joel On 9/27/13 3:00 PM, Lou Berger wrote: > Joel, > Does the proposed altnerate text address your comment (assuming the > author's want to keep the sections)? If not, can you suggest changes? > > Thanks, > Lou > > On 09/27/2013 02:30 PM, Joel M. Halpern wrote: >> Lou, thanks for stepping in. >> With your explanation I can live with the LSP text as it is. >> >> I look forward to further conversation on the other point. >> >> Yours, >> Joel >> >> On 9/27/13 1:37 PM, Lou Berger wrote: >>> Joel/Authors, >>> >>> I thought I might jump in on two points: >>> >>> >>> On 9/26/2013 4:50 AM, BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO) wrote: >>>> Hello Joel, >>>> >>>> thanks for your comments. >>>> Below in line our reply, marked "authors". >>>> >>> >>> ... >>> >>>> Given that this document is about mapping to G.709, it is >>>> unclear what is intended by the usage of "LSP". My guess is that it >>>> is intended to mean Label Switch Paths set up by GMPLS to carry >>>> OTU/UDU elements. >>>> It should be stated explicitly. >>>> >>>> Authors> We can specify this as you suggest even if we considered not >>>> necessary to specify the usage of LSP in relation to data plane >>>> specific. Encoding type should cope with this issue. >>>> >>> >>> Joel, >>> >>> I suspect that the usage of LSP in the absence of the MPLS data plane is >>> what's causing confusion here. Is this correct? >>> >>> If so, I think GMPLS referencing controlled data paths (circuits) by the >>> common name of Label Switched Path (LSP) is sufficiently established >>> that this document doesn't need to revisit it. In any case, the >>> document already provides context: >>> >>> GMPLS routing and signaling, as defined by [RFC4203], [RFC5307], >>> [RFC3473] and [RFC4328], provides the mechanisms for basic GMPLS >>> control of OTN networks based on the 2001 revision of the G.709 >>> specification. >>> and >>> Background information and a framework for the GMPLS protocol >>> extensions need to support [G.709-2012] is provided in [OTN-FWK]. >>> >>> [OTN-FWK] has the often repeated concept: >>> >>> GMPLS extends Multi-Protocol Label Switching (MPLS) to encompass time >>> division multiplexing (TDM) networks (e.g., Synchronous Optical >>> NETwork (SONET)/ Synchronous Digital Hierarchy (SDH), Plesiochronous >>> Digital Hierarchy (PDH), and G.709 sub-lambda), lambda switching >>> optical networks, and spatial switching (e.g., incoming port or fiber >>> to outgoing port or fiber). The GMPLS architecture is provided in >>> [RFC3945], >>> >>> If this doesn't cover the comment, can you elaborate on what you want >>> explicitly stated? >>> >>>> ... >>>> >>>> Section 8 on Maximum LSP Bandwdith seems to be objecting to too >>>> much information leading to a "waste of bits". While possibly of >>>> interest to the WG, that does not seem to fit a gap analysis. >>>> Similarly, section 10 on Priority Support reads as >>>> implementation advice rather than a gap needing protocol changes. >>>> >>>> Authors> The basic scope of the draft is to underline gaps, and even >>>> if what described in Ch.8 and 10, do not prevent routing to work , it >>>> is suggested here an requirement for optimization based on OTN >>>> requirements (e.g. no need to advertise fixed ODU container Max LSP >>>> BW since implicit in the signal type.) >>>> >>> >>> Authors, >>> I completely agree with Joel on this point, furthermore sections >>> 10 and >>> 8 overlap. One approach to address his point would be to simply drop >>> both sections. An alternative is try to rephrase them to address Joel's >>> points. I've taken a pass at the latter below, but won't object if the >>> authors prefer the former. >>> >>> Here's a suggested wording change if you choose to keep the sections: >>> OLD: >>> 8. Maximum LSP Bandwidth >>> >>> Maximum LSP bandwidth is currently advertised in the common part of >>> the ISCD and advertised per priority, while in OTN networks it is >>> only required for ODUflex advertising. This leads to a significant >>> waste of bits inside each LSA. >>> and >>> >>> NEW >>> 8. Maximum LSP Bandwidth >>> >>> Maximum LSP bandwidth is currently advertised per priority in the >>> common part of the ISCD. Section 5 reviews some of the implications >>> of advertising OTN network information using ISCDs, and >>> identifies the need for a more optimized solution. While strictly >>> not required, such an optimization effort should also consider the >>> optimization of the per priority maximum LSP bandwidth advertisement >>> of both fixed and variable ODU types. >>> >>> OLD >>> 10. Priority Support >>> >>> [RFC4202] defines 8 priorities for resource availability and usage. >>> All of them have to be advertised independently on the number of >>> priorities supported by the implementation. Considering that the >>> advertisement of all the different supported signal types will >>> originate large LSAs, it is advised to advertise only the information >>> related to the really supported priorities. >>> NEW >>> 10. Priority Support >>> >>> [RFC4202] defines 8 priorities for resource availability and usage. >>> As defined, each is advertised independent of the number of >>> priorities supported by a network. As is the case in Section 8, >>> addressing any inefficiency with such advertisements is not required >>> to support OTN networks. But any such inefficiency should also be >>> considered as part of the optimization effort identified in Section >>> 5. >>> >>> Also please replace "Bw" with "Bandwidth" in the document. >>> >>> Lou >>> >> > > From leeyoung@huawei.com Fri Sep 27 12:53:06 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 009A411E8168 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 12:53:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.328 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.328 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.271, BAYES_00=-2.599, CN_BODY_35=0.339, MIME_BASE64_TEXT=1.753, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QffnQar1ZQ3a for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 12:52:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4850E21F9D65 for ; 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Halpern" References: <522DBBBC.7050103@joelhalpern.com> <5245C274.6090707@labn.net> <5245CED2.5020400@joelhalpern.com> <5245D5D3.2070303@labn.net> Message-ID: <752ffcd2.1380311568091@mail.labn.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 15:54:43 -0400 (EDT) User-Agent: ProfiMailGo/4.14.00 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Cc: "rtg-dir@ietf.org" , CCAMP WG , "draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model.all@tools.ietf.org" , "rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [RTG-DIR] R: RtgDir review: draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model-11.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 19:55:24 -0000 Great. So you and I are in agreement. We'll see what the authors have to sa= y... On 3:26pm, September 27, 2013, Joel M. Halpern wrote: > The proposed alternative text would suffice, although personally I would= =20 > just remove the two sections. >=20 > Yours, > Joel >=20 > On 9/27/13 3:00 PM, Lou Berger wrote: > > Joel, > > Does the proposed altnerate text address your comment (assuming the > > author's want to keep the sections)?=C2=A0 If not, can you suggest chan= ges? > >=20 > > Thanks, > > Lou > >=20 > > On 09/27/2013 02:30 PM, Joel M. Halpern wrote: > > > Lou, thanks for stepping in. > > > With your explanation I can live with the LSP text as it is. > > >=20 > > > I look forward to further conversation on the other point. > > >=20 > > > Yours, > > > Joel > > >=20 > > > On 9/27/13 1:37 PM, Lou Berger wrote: > > > > Joel/Authors, > > > >=20 > > > > I thought I might jump in on two points: > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > > On 9/26/2013 4:50 AM, BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO) wrote: > > > > > Hello Joel, > > > > >=20 > > > > > thanks for your comments. > > > > > Below in line our reply, marked "authors". > > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > > ... > > > >=20 > > > > > Given that this document is about mapping to G.709, it is > > > > > unclear what is intended by the usage of "LSP".=C2=A0 My guess is= that it > > > > > is intended to mean Label Switch Paths set up by GMPLS to carry > > > > > OTU/UDU elements. > > > > > It should be stated explicitly. > > > > >=20 > > > > > Authors> We can specify this as you suggest even if we considered= not > > > > > necessary to specify the usage of LSP in relation to data plane > > > > > specific. Encoding type should cope with this issue. > > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > > Joel, > > > >=20 > > > > I suspect that the usage of LSP in the absence of the MPLS data pla= ne is > > > > what's causing confusion here.=C2=A0 Is this correct? > > > >=20 > > > > If so, I think GMPLS referencing controlled data paths (circuits) b= y the > > > > common name of Label Switched Path (LSP) is sufficiently establishe= d > > > > that this document doesn't need to revisit it.=C2=A0 In any case, t= he > > > > document already provides context: > > > >=20 > > > > GMPLS routing and signaling, as defined by [RFC4203], [RFC5307], > > > > [RFC3473] and [RFC4328], provides the mechanisms for basic GMPLS > > > > control of OTN networks based on the 2001 revision of the G.709 > > > > specification. > > > > and > > > > Background information and a framework for the GMPLS protocol > > > > extensions need to support [G.709-2012] is provided in [OTN-FWK]. > > > >=20 > > > > [OTN-FWK] has the often repeated concept: > > > >=20 > > > > GMPLS extends Multi-Protocol Label Switching (MPLS) to encompass ti= me > > > > division multiplexing (TDM) networks (e.g., Synchronous Optical > > > > NETwork (SONET)/ Synchronous Digital Hierarchy (SDH), Plesiochronou= s > > > > Digital Hierarchy (PDH), and G.709 sub-lambda), lambda switching > > > > optical networks, and spatial switching (e.g., incoming port or fib= er > > > > to outgoing port or fiber).=C2=A0 The GMPLS architecture is provide= d in > > > > [RFC3945], > > > >=20 > > > > If this doesn't cover the comment, can you elaborate on what you wa= nt > > > > explicitly stated? > > > >=20 > > > > > ... > > > > >=20 > > > > > Section 8 on Maximum LSP Bandwdith seems to be objecting to too > > > > > much information leading to a "waste of bits".=C2=A0 While possib= ly of > > > > > interest to the WG, that does not seem to fit a gap analysis. > > > > > Similarly, section 10 on Priority Support reads as > > > > > implementation advice rather than a gap needing protocol changes. > > > > >=20 > > > > > Authors> The basic scope of the draft is to underline gaps, and e= ven > > > > > if what described in Ch.8 and 10, do not prevent routing to work = , it > > > > > is suggested here an requirement for optimization based on OTN > > > > > requirements (e.g. no need to advertise fixed ODU container Max L= SP > > > > > BW since implicit in the signal type.) > > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > > Authors, > > > > I completely agree with Joel on this point, furthermore sections > > > > 10 and > > > > 8 overlap.=C2=A0 One approach to address his point would be to simp= ly drop > > > > both sections.=C2=A0 An alternative is try to rephrase them to addr= ess Joel's > > > > points.=C2=A0 I've taken a pass at the latter below, but won't obje= ct if the > > > > authors prefer the former. > > > >=20 > > > > Here's a suggested wording change if you choose to keep the section= s: > > > > OLD: > > > > 8. Maximum LSP Bandwidth > > > >=20 > > > > Maximum LSP bandwidth is currently advertised in the common part of > > > > the ISCD and advertised per priority, while in OTN networks it is > > > > only required for ODUflex advertising.=C2=A0 This leads to a signif= icant > > > > waste of bits inside each LSA. > > > > and > > > >=20 > > > > NEW > > > > 8. Maximum LSP Bandwidth > > > >=20 > > > > Maximum LSP bandwidth is currently advertised per priority in the > > > > common part of the ISCD.=C2=A0 Section 5 reviews some of the implic= ations > > > > of advertising OTN network information using=C2=A0 ISCDs, and > > > > identifies the need for a more optimized solution.=C2=A0 While stri= ctly > > > > not required, such an optimization effort should also consider the > > > > optimization of the per priority maximum LSP bandwidth advertisemen= t > > > > of both fixed and variable ODU types. > > > >=20 > > > > OLD > > > > 10. Priority Support > > > >=20 > > > > [RFC4202] defines 8 priorities for resource availability and usage. > > > > All of them have to be advertised independently on the number of > > > > priorities supported by the implementation.=C2=A0 Considering that = the > > > > advertisement of all the different supported signal types will > > > > originate large LSAs, it is advised to advertise only the informati= on > > > > related to the really supported priorities. > > > > NEW > > > > 10. Priority Support > > > >=20 > > > > [RFC4202] defines 8 priorities for resource availability and usage. > > > > As defined, each is advertised independent of the number of > > > > priorities supported by a network.=C2=A0 As is the case in Section = 8, > > > > addressing any inefficiency with such advertisements is not require= d > > > > to support OTN networks.=C2=A0 But any such inefficiency should als= o be > > > > considered as part of the optimization effort identified in Section > > > > 5. > > > >=20 > > > > Also please replace "Bw" with "Bandwidth" in the document. > > > >=20 > > > > Lou > > > >=20 > > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 >=20 From daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com Mon Sep 30 01:17:06 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78B621F8B35 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 01:17:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.386 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.386 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.788, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GApAsgXoRWHb for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 01:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sesbmg20.ericsson.net (sesbmg20.ericsson.net [193.180.251.56]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD92521F9CA6 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 01:16:53 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb38-b7fcf8e0000062b8-b6-5249336f4fc7 Received: from ESESSHC001.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by sesbmg20.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 12.63.25272.F6339425; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 10:16:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ESESSMB301.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.119]) by ESESSHC001.ericsson.se ([153.88.183.21]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 10:15:51 +0200 From: Daniele Ceccarelli To: "CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org)" Thread-Topic: Regarding IPR on draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk Thread-Index: Ac6VK7+mWUvlMi3uQtWQFQbgJh00TQP8ijMAARchXoACk9GZMAAF1VAAAbpXckAAurEH4A== Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 08:15:50 +0000 Message-ID: <4A1562797D64E44993C5CBF38CF1BE4815AECE@ESESSMB301.ericsson.se> References: <9193A8D02DD46441AAA14D8DCA9853944F4129DC@RCHEXMBP1.fnc.net.local> <4A1562797D64E44993C5CBF38CF1BE48153B6E@ESESSMB301.ericsson.se> <9193A8D02DD46441AAA14D8DCA9853944F4145E2@RCHEXMBP1.fnc.net.local> Accept-Language: it-IT, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [153.88.183.16] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_4A1562797D64E44993C5CBF38CF1BE4815AECEESESSMB301ericsso_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrCLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+JvrW6+sWeQwc8rMhZP5txgcWD0WLLk J1MAYxSXTUpqTmZZapG+XQJXxqPt2gWznzNWHJs0jbWBccdFxi5GTg4JAROJpjtrWSBsMYkL 99azdTFycQgJHGWUODlhNROEs4RR4vCH/UAdHBxsAlYSTw75gDSICOhK7N14nRkkLCzgKLH1 lSRE2Eni1N1PzBB2mMTO5/dYQWwWAVWJ1RMgbF4Bb4l1644yQoz/wCTx+tJ+JpAEo4CsxITd i8COYxYQl7j1ZD4TxHECEkv2nGeGsEUlXj7+xwphK0rsPNvODFGfL3F/6SKoBYISJ2c+YZnA KDwLyahZSMpmISmDiOtJ3Jg6hQ3C1pZYtvA1M4StKzHj3yEWZPEFjOyrGDmKU4uTctONDDYx AmPi4JbfFjsYL/+1OcQozcGiJM778a1zkJBAemJJanZqakFqUXxRaU5q8SFGJg5OqQbGYyV1 j16tCSjNWnPhrCqPcuiBhJf5a1Y+97bcd7fT1mbS7KYfiWs5Rc/LcL5XYdx491vdX/u5T6cV vyxVX7UhXzDGfPHx+cXaAdOPfen0npiQ6t399pLM53d/Xu4yXNd0xFL/4/vbzV5+q40ftFzo mC4pLs7FJRAxp5ohqXCy0pR7qwsClmm5KLEUZyQaajEXFScCAFlK0WhXAgAA Subject: [CCAMP] FW: Regarding IPR on draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 08:17:06 -0000 --_000_4A1562797D64E44993C5CBF38CF1BE4815AECEESESSMB301ericsso_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Forwarding to CCAMP for tracking From: Dhillon, Abinder [mailto:Abinder.Dhillon@us.fujitsu.com] Sent: marted=EC 17 settembre 2013 22:04 To: Daniele Ceccarelli; draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk@tools.ietf.org<= mailto:draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk@tools.ietf.org> Subject: RE: Regarding IPR on draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk Folks, No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this framework draft. Regards......Abinder From: Fatai Zhang [mailto:zhangfatai@huawei.com] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 8:43 PM To: draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk@tools.ietf.org; malcolm.betts@zte.com.cn; Zhangxian (Xian); BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO); wsliguo= tou@hotmail.com; zhang.fei3@zte.com.cn; wang.lei131@zte.com.cn; zhangguoying@ritt.cn; tsuri@kddilabs.jp<= mailto:tsuri@kddilabs.jp>; le-liu@kddilabs.jp; L= eeyoung; Hanjianrui; eve.varma@alcatel-lucent.com; msosa@infinera.com; rrao@infinera.c= om; blu@infinera.com; an= drew.g.malis@verizon.com; Dhillon, Abind= er; ssyed@infinera.com; Huub helvoort; Daniel Ki= ng; Oscar Gonz=E1lez de Dios Cc: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A; Lou Berger Subject: RE: Regarding IPR on draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk Hi authors/contributors, We as authors/contributors need to respond the IPR mail. We now have Ramon, Fatai, Oscar, Cyril, Daniele, Iftekhar, Qilei Wang, Xihu= a, Adrian replied the IPR mail, but we still wait the following people to r= espond: Malcolm, Yao, Fei, Guoying, Lei, Young, Jianrui, Xian Zhang, Takehiro Tsuri= tani, Lei Liu, Sharfuddin Syed, Rajan Rao, Biao Lu, Abinder Dhillon, Felipe= Jimenez Arribas, Andrew G. Malis, Daniel King, Huub van Helvoort, Sergio, = Eve. There is no email address for some contributors like Felipe Jimenez Arribas= in the contributor-list,so please forward this mail (or BRUNGARD's IPR mai= l) to them if they are your colleagues (e.g, Oscar can forward IPR mail to = Felipe Jimenez Arribas). Note that there are a couple of Infinera colleagu= es without mail address in the contributor-list. Please respond ASAP based on BRUNGARD's IPR mail below (not my mail). Best Regards Fatai From: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A [mailto:db3546@att.com] Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 2:11 AM To: draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk@tools.ietf.org Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Regarding IPR on draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk Authors, Contributors, (CCAMP) As part of the preparation for WG document adoption: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and listed contributor. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. Thank you, CCAMP WG Chairs PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your response. --_000_4A1562797D64E44993C5CBF38CF1BE4815AECEESESSMB301ericsso_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Forwarding to CCAMP for t= racking

 <= /p>

 <= /p>

From: Dhillon,= Abinder [mailto:Abinder.= Dhillon@us.fujitsu.com]
Sent: marted=EC 17 settembre 2013 22:04
To: Daniele Ceccarelli; draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk@tools.ietf.org
Subject: RE: Regarding IPR on draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk

 

 <= /p>

 <= /p>

From: Fatai Zh= ang [mailto:zhangfatai@huawei.com<= /a>]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 8:43 PM
To: draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk@tools.ietf.org; malcolm.betts@zte.com.cn; Z= hangxian (Xian); BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO); wsliguotou@hotmail.com; zhang.fei3@zte.com.cn; wang.l= ei131@zte.com.cn; zhangguoying@ritt.cn; tsuri@kddilabs.jp; le-liu@kddilab= s.jp; Leeyoung; Hanjianrui; eve.varma@alcatel-lucent.co= m; msosa@infinera.com; rrao@infinera.= com; blu@infinera.com; andrew.g.malis@verizon.com; Dhillon, Abinder; ssyed@infinera.com; Huub helvoort; Daniel King; Oscar Gonz=E1lez de Dio= s
Cc: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A; Lou Berger
Subject: RE: Regarding IPR on draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk

 

We now have Ramon, Fatai, Oscar, Cyril, Dani= ele, Iftekhar, Qilei Wang, Xihua, Adrian replied the IPR mail, but we still wait the following people to respond:

 

Malcolm, Yao, Fei, Guoying, Lei, Young, Jian= rui, Xian Zhang, Takehiro Tsuritani, Lei Liu, Sharfuddin Syed, Rajan Rao, Biao Lu, Abinder Dhillon, Felipe Jimenez Arribas, Andrew G. Mal= is, Daniel King, Huub van Helvoort, Sergio, Eve.

 

There is no email address for some contributors like Fel=
ipe Jimenez Arribas in the contributor-list,so please forward this mail (or=
 BRUNGARD’s IPR mail) to them if they are your colleagues (e.g, Oscar=
 can forward IPR mail to Felipe Jimenez Arribas).  Note that there are=
 a couple of Infinera colleagues without mail address in the contributor-li=
st.

 

Please respond ASAP based on BRUNGARD’s IPR mail below (not my mail).

 

 

 

 

Best Regards

 

Fatai

From: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A [mailto:db3546@att.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 2:11 AM
To: draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk@tools.ietf.org
Cc: ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: Regarding IPR on draft-ogrcetal-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk=

 

Authors, Con= tributors, (CCAMP)

 

As part of t= he preparation for WG document adoption:

 

Are you awar= e of any IPR that applies to draft identified above?

 

  Pleas= e state either:

 

  "= ;No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"<= /o:p>

  or

  "= ;Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

 

If so, has t= his IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules<= /p>

(see RFCs 39= 79, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?

 

  = If yes to the above, please state either:

 

  "= ;Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"

  or

  "= ;No, the IPR has not been disclosed"

 

  If yo= u answer no, please provide any additional details you think

  appro= priate.

 

If you are l= isted as a document author or contributor please answer the

above by res= ponding to this email regardless of whether or not you are

aware of any= relevant IPR.  This document will not advance to the next=

stage until = a response has been received from each author and listed<= /p>

contributor.=   NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS

MESSAGE'S TO= LINES.

 

If you are o= n the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or

contributor,= we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules

which encour= ages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of

others on an= IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any

contribution= or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR.  For more<= /o:p>

information,= please see the RFCs listed above and

 

Thank you,

CCAMP WG Cha= irs

 

PS Please in= clude all listed in the headers of this message in your

response.

 

 

--_000_4A1562797D64E44993C5CBF38CF1BE4815AECEESESSMB301ericsso_-- From daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com Mon Sep 30 06:59:43 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB6C21F85BB; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 06:59:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.029 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.029 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.430, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g3nmwC9Er6r4; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 06:59:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sesbmg20.ericsson.net (sesbmg20.ericsson.net [193.180.251.56]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF75A21F9C72; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 06:59:35 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb38-b7fcf8e0000062b8-2f-524983c6cf43 Received: from ESESSHC006.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by sesbmg20.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id B6.34.25272.6C389425; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 15:59:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ESESSMB301.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.119]) by ESESSHC006.ericsson.se ([153.88.183.36]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 15:59:34 +0200 From: Daniele Ceccarelli To: Lou Berger , "Joel M. 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a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:CC:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=DVJugQvqvnTLAwZuvGJHHqelPjQVe8T5UNOtrzln8ME=; b=ZcDA1ZoYFZiF9BlLA/NV038BiStZEESt7ReoXMOa6ckzb2jyH4L/5mB2pAzTIyI8BigX4lZ0Qb+RnBaeNyt4DUL8UU1he4y8aJ4Mb208oi6198UGjFN2M2jQ2vXMfw/S; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:34898 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VQeeT-0000fO-Mu; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 08:40:45 -0600 Message-ID: <52498D6C.5040707@labn.net> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 10:40:44 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniele Ceccarelli , "Joel M. Halpern" References: <522DBBBC.7050103@joelhalpern.com> <5245C274.6090707@labn.net> <5245CED2.5020400@joelhalpern.com> <5245D5D3.2070303@labn.net> <752ffcd2.1380311568091@mail.labn.net> <4A1562797D64E44993C5CBF38CF1BE4815B30C@ESESSMB301.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: <4A1562797D64E44993C5CBF38CF1BE4815B30C@ESESSMB301.ericsson.se> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Cc: "rtg-dir@ietf.org" , CCAMP WG , "draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model.all@tools.ietf.org" , "rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [RTG-DIR] R: RtgDir review: draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model-11.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 14:41:20 -0000 Daniele, On 09/30/2013 09:59 AM, Daniele Ceccarelli wrote: > Lou, Joel, > > The text proposed sounds good but it only states the problem without any hint on the solutions (i.e. says there is an inefficiency but doesn’t say that advertising only supported priorities is a way to address such inefficiency). > There are two options: Well, there's also the option of dropping the sections. > 1. Improve the text (the NEW one) saying e.g. only the advertisement of bandwidth for supported priorities is needed I always find it easier to make a decision when the tradeoffs are concrete. Can you (authors) propose revised text? > 2. Adopt the NEW text as it is and move the remaining part of the text to the OSPF draft (where we say e.g. that only bandwidth for supporter priorities need to be advertised but don't say why). > Doesn't the OSPF draft already already do what you say, i.e., advertise only used priorities. What specific text are you proposing to add? > Thanks, Lou > Re all the other comments/suggestion we're ok and will fix them as suggested. > > BR > Authors > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] >> Sent: venerdì 27 settembre 2013 21:55 >> To: Joel M. Halpern >> Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org; CCAMP WG; draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info- >> model.all@tools.ietf.org; BELOTTI, SERGIO \(SERGIO\); rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [RTG-DIR] R: [CCAMP] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709- >> info-model-11.txt >> >> Great. So you and I are in agreement. We'll see what the authors have to >> say... >> >> >> On 3:26pm, September 27, 2013, Joel M. Halpern wrote: >>> The proposed alternative text would suffice, although personally I >>> would just remove the two sections. >>> >>> Yours, >>> Joel >>> >>> On 9/27/13 3:00 PM, Lou Berger wrote: >>>> Joel, >>>> Does the proposed altnerate text address your comment (assuming the >>>> author's want to keep the sections)? If not, can you suggest changes? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Lou >>>> >>>> On 09/27/2013 02:30 PM, Joel M. Halpern wrote: >>>>> Lou, thanks for stepping in. >>>>> With your explanation I can live with the LSP text as it is. >>>>> >>>>> I look forward to further conversation on the other point. >>>>> >>>>> Yours, >>>>> Joel >>>>> >>>>> On 9/27/13 1:37 PM, Lou Berger wrote: >>>>>> Joel/Authors, >>>>>> >>>>>> I thought I might jump in on two points: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 9/26/2013 4:50 AM, BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO) wrote: >>>>>>> Hello Joel, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> thanks for your comments. >>>>>>> Below in line our reply, marked "authors". >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ... >>>>>> >>>>>>> Given that this document is about mapping to G.709, it is >>>>>>> unclear what is intended by the usage of "LSP". My guess is >>>>>>> that it is intended to mean Label Switch Paths set up by GMPLS >>>>>>> to carry OTU/UDU elements. >>>>>>> It should be stated explicitly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Authors> We can specify this as you suggest even if we >>>>>>> Authors> considered not >>>>>>> necessary to specify the usage of LSP in relation to data >>>>>>> plane specific. Encoding type should cope with this issue. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Joel, >>>>>> >>>>>> I suspect that the usage of LSP in the absence of the MPLS data >>>>>> plane is what's causing confusion here. Is this correct? >>>>>> >>>>>> If so, I think GMPLS referencing controlled data paths >>>>>> (circuits) by the common name of Label Switched Path (LSP) is >>>>>> sufficiently established that this document doesn't need to >>>>>> revisit it. In any case, the document already provides context: >>>>>> >>>>>> GMPLS routing and signaling, as defined by [RFC4203], [RFC5307], >>>>>> [RFC3473] and [RFC4328], provides the mechanisms for basic GMPLS >>>>>> control of OTN networks based on the 2001 revision of the G.709 >>>>>> specification. >>>>>> and >>>>>> Background information and a framework for the GMPLS protocol >>>>>> extensions need to support [G.709-2012] is provided in [OTN-FWK]. >>>>>> >>>>>> [OTN-FWK] has the often repeated concept: >>>>>> >>>>>> GMPLS extends Multi-Protocol Label Switching (MPLS) to encompass >>>>>> time division multiplexing (TDM) networks (e.g., Synchronous >>>>>> Optical NETwork (SONET)/ Synchronous Digital Hierarchy (SDH), >>>>>> Plesiochronous Digital Hierarchy (PDH), and G.709 sub-lambda), >>>>>> lambda switching optical networks, and spatial switching (e.g., >>>>>> incoming port or fiber to outgoing port or fiber). The GMPLS >>>>>> architecture is provided in [RFC3945], >>>>>> >>>>>> If this doesn't cover the comment, can you elaborate on what you >>>>>> want explicitly stated? >>>>>> >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Section 8 on Maximum LSP Bandwdith seems to be objecting to >>>>>>> too much information leading to a "waste of bits". While >>>>>>> possibly of interest to the WG, that does not seem to fit a gap >> analysis. >>>>>>> Similarly, section 10 on Priority Support reads as >>>>>>> implementation advice rather than a gap needing protocol changes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Authors> The basic scope of the draft is to underline gaps, >>>>>>> Authors> and even >>>>>>> if what described in Ch.8 and 10, do not prevent routing to >>>>>>> work , it is suggested here an requirement for optimization >>>>>>> based on OTN requirements (e.g. no need to advertise fixed ODU >>>>>>> container Max LSP BW since implicit in the signal type.) >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Authors, >>>>>> I completely agree with Joel on this point, furthermore sections >>>>>> 10 and >>>>>> 8 overlap. One approach to address his point would be to simply >>>>>> drop both sections. An alternative is try to rephrase them to >>>>>> address Joel's points. I've taken a pass at the latter below, >>>>>> but won't object if the authors prefer the former. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's a suggested wording change if you choose to keep the >> sections: >>>>>> OLD: >>>>>> 8. Maximum LSP Bandwidth >>>>>> >>>>>> Maximum LSP bandwidth is currently advertised in the common part >>>>>> of the ISCD and advertised per priority, while in OTN networks >>>>>> it is only required for ODUflex advertising. This leads to a >>>>>> significant waste of bits inside each LSA. >>>>>> and >>>>>> >>>>>> NEW >>>>>> 8. Maximum LSP Bandwidth >>>>>> >>>>>> Maximum LSP bandwidth is currently advertised per priority in >>>>>> the common part of the ISCD. Section 5 reviews some of the >>>>>> implications of advertising OTN network information using >>>>>> ISCDs, and identifies the need for a more optimized solution. >>>>>> While strictly not required, such an optimization effort should >>>>>> also consider the optimization of the per priority maximum LSP >>>>>> bandwidth advertisement of both fixed and variable ODU types. >>>>>> >>>>>> OLD >>>>>> 10. Priority Support >>>>>> >>>>>> [RFC4202] defines 8 priorities for resource availability and usage. >>>>>> All of them have to be advertised independently on the number of >>>>>> priorities supported by the implementation. Considering that >>>>>> the advertisement of all the different supported signal types >>>>>> will originate large LSAs, it is advised to advertise only the >>>>>> information related to the really supported priorities. >>>>>> NEW >>>>>> 10. Priority Support >>>>>> >>>>>> [RFC4202] defines 8 priorities for resource availability and usage. >>>>>> As defined, each is advertised independent of the number of >>>>>> priorities supported by a network. As is the case in Section 8, >>>>>> addressing any inefficiency with such advertisements is not >>>>>> required to support OTN networks. But any such inefficiency >>>>>> should also be considered as part of the optimization effort >>>>>> identified in Section 5. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also please replace "Bw" with "Bandwidth" in the document. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lou >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> From sergio.belotti@alcatel-lucent.com Mon Sep 30 08:15:48 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C80D21F960D; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 08:15:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gIIy+4FWN0xa; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 08:15:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ihemail4.lucent.com (ihemail4.lucent.com [135.245.0.39]) by 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[127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A71221F93C4 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 09:32:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.537 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.537 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.062, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1JjCDBv+LOrr for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 09:32:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (asmtp4.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.175]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25BEC21F9385 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 09:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r8UGWWpx030301 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:32:32 +0100 Received: from 950129200 (dsl-sp-81-140-15-32.in-addr.broadbandscope.com [81.140.15.32]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r8UGWUq9030287 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:32:31 +0100 From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:32:31 +0100 Message-ID: <075d01cebdfa$a98eba20$fcac2e60$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac69+qEnn+ogMw9yTMitWY64yagp6A== Content-Language: en-gb Subject: [CCAMP] New version: draft-farrkingel-ccamp-flexigrid-lambda-label-07.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: adrian@olddog.co.uk List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 16:32:39 -0000 Hi, I just posted a quick keep-alive update. Adrian > -----Original Message----- > From: i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org > Sent: 30 September 2013 17:21 > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Subject: I-D Action: draft-farrkingel-ccamp-flexigrid-lambda-label-07.txt > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > > > Title : Generalized Labels for the Flexi-Grid in Lambda Switch Capable > (LSC) Label Switching Routers > Author(s) : Daniel King > Adrian Farrel > Yao Li > Fatai Zhang > Filename : draft-farrkingel-ccamp-flexigrid-lambda-label-07.txt > Pages : 10 > Date : 2013-09-30 > > Abstract: > GMPLS supports the description of optical switching by identifying > entries in fixed lists of switchable wavelengths (called grids) > through the encoding of lambda labels. Work within the ITU-T Study > Group 15 has defined a finer granularity grid, and the facility to > flexibly select different widths of spectrum from the grid. This > document defines a new GMPLS lambda label format to support this > flexi-grid. > > This document updates RFC 3471 and RFC 6205 by introducing a new > label format. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-farrkingel-ccamp-flexigrid-lambda-label > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-farrkingel-ccamp-flexigrid-lambda-label-07 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-farrkingel-ccamp-flexigrid-lambda-label- > 07 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > I-D-Announce mailing list > I-D-Announce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce > Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Sep 30 10:16:50 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D6321F963F; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 10:16:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1ZiDAkBmpRNh; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 10:16:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB0F21F91F2; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 10:16:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.72 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20130930171647.31558.36106.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 10:16:47 -0700 Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode-21.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:16:50 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Work= ing Group of the IETF. Title : Routing and Wavelength Assignment Information Encoding f= or Wavelength Switched Optical Networks Author(s) : Greg M. Bernstein Young Lee Dan Li Wataru Imajuku Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode-21.txt Pages : 40 Date : 2013-09-30 Abstract: A wavelength switched optical network (WSON) requires that certain key information elements are made available to facilitate path computation and the establishment of label switching paths (LSPs). The information model described in "Routing and Wavelength Assignment Information for Wavelength Switched Optical Networks" shows what information is required at specific points in the WSON. Part of the WSON information model contains aspects that may be of general applicability to other technologies, while other parts are fairly specific to WSONs. This document provides efficient, protocol-agnostic encodings for the WSON specific information elements. It is intended that protocol-specific documents will reference this memo to describe how information is carried for specific uses. Such encodings can be used to extend GMPLS signaling and routing protocols. In addition these encodings could be used by other mechanisms to convey this same information to a path computation element (PCE). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode-21 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode-21 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Sep 30 10:22:55 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0508621F9A43; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 10:22:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qbt6Z9bt0GyX; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 10:22:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8304521F9A3B; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 10:22:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.72 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20130930172250.31558.3312.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 10:22:50 -0700 Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility-ospf-12.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:22:57 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Work= ing Group of the IETF. Title : GMPLS OSPF Enhancement for Signal and Network Element Co= mpatibility for Wavelength Switched Optical Networks Author(s) : Young Lee Greg M. Bernstein Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility-ospf-12.txt Pages : 13 Date : 2013-09-30 Abstract: This document provides GMPLS OSPF routing enhancements to support signal compatibility constraints associated with WSON network elements. These routing enhancements are required in common optical or hybrid electro-optical networks where not all of the optical signals in the network are compatible with all network elements participating in the network. This compatibility constraint model is applicable to common optical or hybrid electro optical systems such as OEO switches, regenerators, and wavelength converters since such systems can be limited to processing only certain types of WSON signals. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility= -ospf There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility-ospf-= 12 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibili= ty-ospf-12 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Mon Sep 30 11:39:13 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE9EA21F9D9C; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:39:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.526 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.526 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.074, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id grhx5q4Ow5Q4; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C764E21F9DF0; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:38:46 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.72 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20130930183846.31558.6617.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:38:46 -0700 Cc: ccamp mailing list , ccamp chair , RFC Editor Subject: [CCAMP] Protocol Action: 'Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Signaling Extensions for the evolving G.709 Optical Transport Networks Control' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3-12.txt) X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 18:39:13 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Signaling Extensions for the evolving G.709 Optical Transport Networks Control' (draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3-12.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Adrian Farrel and Stewart Bryant. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3/ Technical Summary This document extends GMPLS RSVP-TE to support the control of Optical Transport Networks (OTN) specified in ITU-T Recommendation G.709 as published in 2012. It provides an update to the OTU/ODU related mechanisms defined in RFC4328. This document is one of four informational and standards track documents going through the publication process as a set. Working Group Summary There were many points of discussion, some more "intense" than others. At this point there does not appear to be any notable discontent with the documented solution. Document Quality The base GMPLS RSVP-TE mechanisms are implemented and deployed. Implementation status of the extensions defined in this document has not been publicly disclosed, but several implementations are expected. Personnel Lou Berger (lberger@labn.net) is the Document Shepherd. Adrian Farrel (Adrian@olddog.co.uk) is the Responsible AD RFC Editor Note You can safely remove Section 2 as the boilerplate is floating around somewhere else as well. --- Section 6.2 final bullet s/not REQUIRED/not required/ --- Section 9 third bullet s/not REQUIRED/not required/ --- A number of changes to section 11. For ease of not missing the details here is a complete replacement. 11. IANA Considerations Upon approval of this document, IANA will make the following assignments in the "Class Types or C-Types 9 FLOWSPEC" and "Class Types or C-Types 12 SENDER_TSPEC" section of the "RSVP Parameters" registry located at http://www.iana.org/assignments/rsvp-parameters. Value Description Reference 7(*) OTN-TDM [This.I-D] (*) Suggested value IANA maintains the "Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Signaling Parameters" registry (see http://www.iana.org/assignments/gmpls-sig-parameters). "Generalized PIDs (G-PID)" subregistry is included in this registry, which will be extended and updated by this document as below. Value Type Technology Reference ===== ====================== ========== 47 G.709 ODU-2.5G G.709 ODUk [RFC4328] (IANA to update Type field) [This.I-D] 56 SBCON/ESCON G.709 ODUk, [RFC4328] (IANA to update Type field) Lambda, Fiber [This.I-D] 59* Framed GFP G.709 ODUk [This.I-D] 60* STM-1 G.709 ODUk [This.I-D] 61* STM-4 G.709 ODUk [This.I-D] 62* InfiniBand G.709 ODUflex [This.I-D] 63* SDI (Serial Digital Interface) G.709 ODUk [This.I-D] 64* SDI/1.001 G.709 ODUk [This.I-D] 65* DVB_ASI G.709 ODUk [This.I-D] 66* G.709 ODU-1.25G G.709 ODUk [This.I-D] 67* G.709 ODU-Any G.709 ODUk [This.I-D] 68* Null Test G.709 ODUk [This.I-D] 69* Random Test G.709 ODUk [This.I-D] 70* 64B/66B GFP-F Ethernet G.709 ODUk [This.I-D] (*) Suggested value The new G-PIDs should be shown in the TC MIB managed by IANA at https://www.iana.org/assignments/ianagmplstc-mib as follows: g709FramedGFP(59) , g709STM1 (60) , g709STM4 (61) , g709InfiniBand (62) , g709SDI (63) , g709SDI1point001 (64) , g709DVBASI (65) , g709ODU1point25G (66) , g709ODUAny (67) , g709NullTest (68) , g709RandomTest (69) , g709GFPFEthernet (70) Note that IANA must not change the names of the objects in this MIB module with the values 47 and 56. Upon approval of this document, IANA will define an "OTN Signal Type" subregistry to the "Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Signaling Parameters": Value Signal Type Reference ----- ----------- --------- 0 Not significant [RFC4328] 1 ODU1 (i.e., 2.5Gbps) [RFC4328] 2 ODU2 (i.e., 10Gbps) [RFC4328] 3 ODU3 (i.e., 40Gbps) [RFC4328] 4 ODU4 (i.e., 100Gbps) [this document] 5 Unassigned [RFC4328] 6 Och at 2.5Gbps [RFC4328] 7 OCh at 10Gbps [RFC4328] 8 OCh at 40Gbps [RFC4328] 9 OCh at 100Gbps [this document] 10 ODU0 (i.e., 1.25Gbps) [this document] 11 ODU2e (i.e., 10Gbps for FC1200 [this document] and GE LAN) 12~19 Unassigned [this document] 20 ODUflex(CBR) (i.e., 1.25*N Gbps) [this document] 21 ODUflex(GFP-F), resizable [this document] (i.e., 1.25*N Gbps) 22 ODUflex(GFP-F), non resizable [this document] (i.e., 1.25*N Gbps) 23~255 Unassigned [this document] New values are to be assigned via Standards Action as defined in [RFC5226]. IANA Note IANA, please not the complete replacement of the IANA Considerations section in the RFC Editor note. From lberger@labn.net Mon Sep 30 15:03:54 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C3421F8EA8 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 15:03:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.874 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.874 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.391, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3hMAP+89uU2h for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 15:03:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oproxy9-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (oproxy9-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.24.6]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 720D021F96E4 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 15:03:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21636 invoked by uid 0); 30 Sep 2013 22:03:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by oproxy9.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 30 Sep 2013 22:03:24 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:CC:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=hQZ5BWmGsqqapxFARzGi7YLxpzHRlYmlzkf+Xob016g=; b=UFQx+++NTrkPNFxL8dTJ0yGaWRPYH+eR8kOgOnjZbbWXFP83bVunNR12V53zdcWjuAqXshKYUY3GvlzBY82g6bUZvnNAOMLHSXA9xG/Kxu7cbc8jPPBVowUnnbVMoIBI; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:42519 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VQlBC-00034s-2t; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 15:38:58 -0600 Message-ID: <5249EF71.6000906@labn.net> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 17:38:57 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO)" References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Cc: "rtg-dir@ietf.org" , CCAMP WG , "draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model.all@tools.ietf.org" , "rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] I: [RTG-DIR] R: RtgDir review: draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model-11.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 22:03:55 -0000 Sergio, See below. On 9/30/2013 11:15 AM, BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO) wrote: > Lou, > our answer in line marked "authors" > > Thanks > > Authors > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Daniele, > > On 09/30/2013 09:59 AM, Daniele Ceccarelli wrote: >> Lou, Joel, >> >> The text proposed sounds good but it only states the problem without any hint on the solutions (i.e. says there is an inefficiency but doesn’t say that advertising only supported priorities is a way to address such inefficiency). >> There are two options: > > Well, there's also the option of dropping the sections. > > Authors> as already said The basic scope of the draft is to underline > gaps, and even if what described in Ch.8 and 10, do not prevent > routing to work, it is suggested here an requirement for optimization > based on OTN requirements (e.g. no need to advertise fixed ODU > container Max LSP BW since implicit in the signal type.). So, in our > opinion, no dropping. > > >> 1. Improve the text (the NEW one) saying e.g. only the advertisement >> of bandwidth for supported priorities is needed > > I always find it easier to make a decision when the tradeoffs are concrete. Can you (authors) propose revised text? > > Authors> "[RFC4202] defines 8 priorities for resource availability > and usage. As defined, each is advertised independent of the number > of priorities supported by a network vs. to advertise only the > information related to the really supported priorities as possible > optimization improvement. As is the case in Section 8, addressing any > inefficiency with such advertisements is not required to support OTN > networks. But any such inefficiency should also be considered as > part of the optimization effort identified in Section 5." > How about: OLD As defined, each is advertised independent of the number of priorities supported by a network vs. to advertise only the information related to the really supported priorities as possible optimization improvement. NEW As defined, each is advertised independent of the number of priorities supported by a network, and even unsupported priorities are included. >> 2. Adopt the NEW text as it is and move the remaining part of the text to the OSPF draft (where we say e.g. that only bandwidth for supporter priorities need to be advertised but don't say why). >> > Doesn't the OSPF draft already already do what you say, i.e., advertise only used priorities. What specific text are you proposing to add? >> > Authors> No, it doesn't. So the OSPF draft currently says that all priorities are advertised? Really???? If so adding this new text does little to change this. Are you really advocating reopening discussion on the OSPF draft in addition to this one? Lou > ... Text proposed is the old one that totally address explanation in our view :" [RFC4202] defines 8 priorities for resource availability and usage. All of them have to be advertised independently on the number of priorities supported by the implementation.Considering that the advertisement of all the different supported signal types will originate large LSAs, it is advised to advertise only the information related to the really supported priorities. > > Thanks, > Lou > >> Re all the other comments/suggestion we're ok and will fix them as suggested. >> >> BR >> Authors >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] >>> Sent: venerdì 27 settembre 2013 21:55 >>> To: Joel M. Halpern >>> Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org; CCAMP WG; draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info- >>> model.all@tools.ietf.org; BELOTTI, SERGIO \(SERGIO\); >>> rtg-ads@tools.ietf.org >>> Subject: Re: [RTG-DIR] R: [CCAMP] RtgDir review: >>> draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709- info-model-11.txt >>> >>> Great. So you and I are in agreement. We'll see what the authors have >>> to say... >>> >>> >>> On 3:26pm, September 27, 2013, Joel M. Halpern wrote: >>>> The proposed alternative text would suffice, although personally I >>>> would just remove the two sections. >>>> >>>> Yours, >>>> Joel >>>> >>>> On 9/27/13 3:00 PM, Lou Berger wrote: >>>>> Joel, >>>>> Does the proposed altnerate text address your comment (assuming the >>>>> author's want to keep the sections)? If not, can you suggest changes? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Lou >>>>> >>>>> On 09/27/2013 02:30 PM, Joel M. Halpern wrote: >>>>>> Lou, thanks for stepping in. >>>>>> With your explanation I can live with the LSP text as it is. >>>>>> >>>>>> I look forward to further conversation on the other point. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yours, >>>>>> Joel >>>>>> >>>>>> On 9/27/13 1:37 PM, Lou Berger wrote: >>>>>>> Joel/Authors, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I thought I might jump in on two points: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9/26/2013 4:50 AM, BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO) wrote: >>>>>>>> Hello Joel, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> thanks for your comments. >>>>>>>> Below in line our reply, marked "authors". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Given that this document is about mapping to G.709, it is >>>>>>>> unclear what is intended by the usage of "LSP". My guess is >>>>>>>> that it is intended to mean Label Switch Paths set up by GMPLS >>>>>>>> to carry OTU/UDU elements. >>>>>>>> It should be stated explicitly. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Authors> We can specify this as you suggest even if we >>>>>>>> Authors> considered not >>>>>>>> necessary to specify the usage of LSP in relation to data plane >>>>>>>> specific. Encoding type should cope with this issue. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Joel, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I suspect that the usage of LSP in the absence of the MPLS data >>>>>>> plane is what's causing confusion here. Is this correct? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If so, I think GMPLS referencing controlled data paths >>>>>>> (circuits) by the common name of Label Switched Path (LSP) is >>>>>>> sufficiently established that this document doesn't need to >>>>>>> revisit it. In any case, the document already provides context: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> GMPLS routing and signaling, as defined by [RFC4203], [RFC5307], >>>>>>> [RFC3473] and [RFC4328], provides the mechanisms for basic GMPLS >>>>>>> control of OTN networks based on the 2001 revision of the G.709 >>>>>>> specification. >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> Background information and a framework for the GMPLS protocol >>>>>>> extensions need to support [G.709-2012] is provided in [OTN-FWK]. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [OTN-FWK] has the often repeated concept: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> GMPLS extends Multi-Protocol Label Switching (MPLS) to encompass >>>>>>> time division multiplexing (TDM) networks (e.g., Synchronous >>>>>>> Optical NETwork (SONET)/ Synchronous Digital Hierarchy (SDH), >>>>>>> Plesiochronous Digital Hierarchy (PDH), and G.709 sub-lambda), >>>>>>> lambda switching optical networks, and spatial switching (e.g., >>>>>>> incoming port or fiber to outgoing port or fiber). The GMPLS >>>>>>> architecture is provided in [RFC3945], >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If this doesn't cover the comment, can you elaborate on what you >>>>>>> want explicitly stated? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Section 8 on Maximum LSP Bandwdith seems to be objecting to too >>>>>>>> much information leading to a "waste of bits". While possibly >>>>>>>> of interest to the WG, that does not seem to fit a gap >>> analysis. >>>>>>>> Similarly, section 10 on Priority Support reads as >>>>>>>> implementation advice rather than a gap needing protocol changes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Authors> The basic scope of the draft is to underline gaps, and >>>>>>>> Authors> even >>>>>>>> if what described in Ch.8 and 10, do not prevent routing to work >>>>>>>> , it is suggested here an requirement for optimization based on >>>>>>>> OTN requirements (e.g. no need to advertise fixed ODU container >>>>>>>> Max LSP BW since implicit in the signal type.) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Authors, >>>>>>> I completely agree with Joel on this point, furthermore sections >>>>>>> 10 and >>>>>>> 8 overlap. One approach to address his point would be to simply >>>>>>> drop both sections. An alternative is try to rephrase them to >>>>>>> address Joel's points. I've taken a pass at the latter below, >>>>>>> but won't object if the authors prefer the former. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here's a suggested wording change if you choose to keep the >>> sections: >>>>>>> OLD: >>>>>>> 8. Maximum LSP Bandwidth >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Maximum LSP bandwidth is currently advertised in the common part >>>>>>> of the ISCD and advertised per priority, while in OTN networks it >>>>>>> is only required for ODUflex advertising. This leads to a >>>>>>> significant waste of bits inside each LSA. >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> >>>>>>> NEW >>>>>>> 8. Maximum LSP Bandwidth >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Maximum LSP bandwidth is currently advertised per priority in the >>>>>>> common part of the ISCD. Section 5 reviews some of the >>>>>>> implications of advertising OTN network information using ISCDs, >>>>>>> and identifies the need for a more optimized solution. >>>>>>> While strictly not required, such an optimization effort should >>>>>>> also consider the optimization of the per priority maximum LSP >>>>>>> bandwidth advertisement of both fixed and variable ODU types. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OLD >>>>>>> 10. Priority Support >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [RFC4202] defines 8 priorities for resource availability and usage. >>>>>>> All of them have to be advertised independently on the number of >>>>>>> priorities supported by the implementation. Considering that the >>>>>>> advertisement of all the different supported signal types will >>>>>>> originate large LSAs, it is advised to advertise only the >>>>>>> information related to the really supported priorities. >>>>>>> NEW >>>>>>> 10. Priority Support >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [RFC4202] defines 8 priorities for resource availability and usage. >>>>>>> As defined, each is advertised independent of the number of >>>>>>> priorities supported by a network. As is the case in Section 8, >>>>>>> addressing any inefficiency with such advertisements is not >>>>>>> required to support OTN networks. But any such inefficiency >>>>>>> should also be considered as part of the optimization effort >>>>>>> identified in Section 5. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also please replace "Bw" with "Bandwidth" in the document. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lou >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> > From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Sep 30 16:34:52 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6AF321F99D5; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 16:34:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.54 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.060, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JQcEr+QVKbNb; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 16:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F6721F83E0; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 16:34:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.72 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20130930233452.31558.27662.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 16:34:52 -0700 Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-srlg-collect-03.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 23:34:52 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Work= ing Group of the IETF. Title : RSVP-TE Extensions for Collecting SRLG Information Author(s) : Fatai Zhang Dan Li Oscar Gonzalez de Dios Cyril Margaria Matt Hartley Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-srlg-collect-03.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2013-09-30 Abstract: This document provides extensions for the Resource ReserVation Protocol-Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) to support automatic collection of Shared Risk Link Group (SRLG) Information for the TE link formed by a LSP. 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