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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Hi, Rajan, all,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;=A1=B0</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"color:#1F497D">Min &amp; Max slot=A1=B1 you mentioned below is a b=
it mis-leading. I think you wanted to say =A1=B0Min &amp; Max LSP bandwidth=
=A1=B1. Let talk them
 one by one since we are not aligned yet on both. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Why do we need to advertise Min LSP bandwidth =
per priority in ISCD, e.g., a request cannot set up a LSP smaller than X GH=
z and it varies per priority? If you&nbsp; meant to say the interface limit=
ation,
 it is covered in Section 4.3 already. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;As for the Max LSP bandwidth information, I agree w=
ith you that RFC4204 has this requirement. This draft (draft-ietf-ccamp-fle=
xible-grid-ospf-ext-01) needs to be updated to reflect this. I
 can think of two options: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Option =
A: use the existing fields (MAX LSP Bandwidth at priority x, x=3D0-7) &nbsp=
;in the ISCD (defined in Section 1.4. of RFC4203). The point that we need t=
o update is the unit to be usable in the context
 of Flexi-grid. It will be Hz not byte per second.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Option =
B: We add the max LSP bandwidth field (16 bit) in the Available Labels Fiel=
d by using the Reserved field. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp; Which option does the WG prefer?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Regards=
,<br>
Xian</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [mailto:rrao@infinera.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=
=CC=E5">=C4=EA</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2</span><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D4=C2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">28</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=C8=
=D5</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 2:51<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Xian, a=
ll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Section=
 4.3 is trying to use port label restrictions sub-TLV with a new restrictio=
n type.&nbsp; This is fine.&nbsp; But how does a path computing node determ=
ine if it can use the link to setup an LSP with
 N-slots @ priority =A1=AEp=A1=AF?&nbsp; &nbsp;For e.g&nbsp; I don=A1=AFt w=
ant to allow priority 7 LSPs to use bandwidth greater than 20 slots on the =
link but allow for LSPs with priority 0, 1 &amp; 2.&nbsp; Where is this inf=
o in the TLV?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">We had =
given examples when we presented our draft in Taipei IETF-82. &nbsp;Ref sli=
des 8 &amp; 10 (link below).&nbsp; We had coverage for advertisement of&nbs=
p; Min &amp; Max slot widths per priority. This is meant to align
 with RFC 4202.&nbsp; I believe WG doc lacks this and needs to address.<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><a href=
=3D"http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/ccamp-18.pdf">http://www.ietf=
.org/proceedings/82/slides/ccamp-18.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">thx<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhangxian (Xian) [mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 26, 2015 5:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:black">Hi, Rajan and all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Thank you for your clarification and I =
now fully understand your question. I think you have misunderstood Section =
4.3. of this draft. It was not to describe
 dynamic Max &amp; Min LSP bandwidth but rather the capability/constraint a=
ssociated with an port, which rarely change over time.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:10.5pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Isn=A1=AFt information per priority al=
ready supported? Quoting text from the drafts referred:<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<pre style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-=
size:10.5pt;color:black">=A1=B0</span><span lang=3D"EN" style=3D"font-size:=
8.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">The technology specific part of the WSON IS=
CD may include a variable<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN" style=
=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">&nbsp;&nbsp; number of sub-TL=
Vs called Bandwidth sub-TLVs.</span><span style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-fam=
ily:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=A1=B1</span><span lang=3D"EN" style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;f=
ont-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN" style=
=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">As for the Mix and Max LSP bandwidth, c=
ould you give me an example of what you said below, i.e.,=A1=B0Availability=
 of&nbsp; =A1=AEN=A1=AF consecutive labels doesn=A1=AFt mean you
 can setup an LSP with a size of =A1=AEN=A1=AF=A1=B1? <o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;What does the WG think of the issue under discus=
sion?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Xian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailt=
o:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=
=CC=E5">=C4=EA</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2</span><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D4=C2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">27</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=C8=
=D5</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 4:03<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp=
@ietf.org</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Xian,<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">I under=
stand this doc is trying to reuse
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">GEN-EN=
CODE &amp; there is support for priority. &nbsp;I am not referring to this =
one. &nbsp;The Min Width &amp; Max &nbsp;Width fields do exist in the draft=
 but these alone are not sufficient. We need info per priority
 for the following reason.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">The intent of Min &amp; Max width info is to specify what is the =
Minimum/Maximum LSP bandwidth an LSP could reserve at a given priority =A1=
=AEp=A1=AF on the link.&nbsp; You can draw parallel to =A1=AEMinimum
 LSP Bandwidth=A1=AF &amp; =A1=AEMaximum LSP Bandwidth=A1=AF fields in RFC =
4202.&nbsp; &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">I don=A1=AFt understand how you can derive this from label set fi=
eld.&nbsp; &nbsp;Availability of&nbsp; =A1=AEN=A1=AF consecutive labels doe=
sn=A1=AFt mean you can setup an LSP with a size of =A1=AEN=A1=AF.&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Thx<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Rajan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhangxian (Xian) [<a href=3D"mailto:zhang.xian@huawei=
.com">mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 25, 2015 5:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.o=
rg</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Hi, Rajan,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; As I was not involved earlier, I find the foll=
owing may be &nbsp;a bit long for others in the WG to get involved. &nbsp;B=
efore I dive into the discussion and share my thoughts, am I accurate
 if I recap the question as:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:5.25pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp; You think the existing =
text in draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01 do not support the follo=
wing:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:23.25pt;text-indent:-18.=
0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Do not support priority;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:23.25pt;text-indent:-18.=
0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Do not convey the min &amp; max LSP bandwidth information=
 in the SCSI field;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Could you confirm my interpretation of your issue?<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">The following is my thoughts ( subject to change if the question =
I recapped above is not as exact as what you want to say):<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">The&nbsp; current method is to reuse what has already been propos=
ed for WSON. So it reuses the SCSI field defined in WSON-OSPF draft (<a hre=
f=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility=
-ospf-15#section-3.1">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-sig=
nal-compatibility-ospf-15#section-3.1</a>).
 So, it DOES support priority (see the details are in [GEN-ENCODE] draft-ie=
tf-ccamp-general-constraint-encode-20). Exactly because of the same reason,=
 the draft under discussion uses label set field to describe what frequency=
 slots are available. So, although
 it allows for all different varieties supported by [GEN-ENCODE] (i.e., lis=
t, bitmap, inclusive, exclusive etc.), the method does not see the need of =
specify the max&amp;min LSP bandwidth since it can be naturally deduced fro=
m the available frequency spectrum information
 conveyed. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">The above discussion actually reminds me of a question Ramon rais=
ed up a while ago among the authors of this draft, what has been defined in=
 WSON-OSPF is truly usable labels in signaling.
 But with Flexi-grid, it is not true anymore. For example, although we use =
Inclusive Label Range to describe available frequency range, say the exampl=
e in Section 4.4 of &nbsp;draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01 (assum=
e m=3D1), none of these labels are directly
 usable if what is actually requested is a bandwidth with m=3D2. &nbsp;I my=
self do not see any issue as long as we make it clear we use the format jus=
t to describe what resource available NOT usable labels. Since it is a WG d=
raft, it is worthwhile to solicit what
 you think?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Cheers,<br>
Xian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailt=
o:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=
=CC=E5">=C4=EA</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2</span><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D4=C2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">26</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=C8=
=D5</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 7:17<br>
<b>To:</b> Daniele Ceccarelli; Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang; CCAMP (<a href=3D=
"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a>)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Ramon Case=
llas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Actio=
n: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Daniele=
,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Sure.&n=
bsp; Added WG in the list for comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan&n=
bsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Daniele Ceccarelli [<a href=3D"mailto:daniele.ceccare=
lli@ericsson.com">mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Ramon Case=
llas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Actio=
n: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Hi all,=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">This is=
 a really interesting discussion and since we=A1=AFre speaking about a work=
ing group draft I think we should continue con the mailing list.<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Please =
include the WG in your reply.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">BR<br>
Daniele<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailt=
o:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> mercoled=A8=AC 25 febbraio 2015 19:56<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Daniele Ce=
ccarelli; Ramon Casellas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Actio=
n: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Haomian=
,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">The pri=
ority in each layer is independent. &nbsp;The intent of explicitly carrying=
 priority info in the advertisement is to allow for LSP creation at differe=
nt priorities.&nbsp; Note that priority defined
 in OTN RFC don=A1=AFt apply here as it is a different layer. &nbsp;&nbsp;Y=
ou can have L0-LSP setup at priority-1 but L1-Telink (OTN link) formed out =
of this may advertise all 8 or subset of them. &nbsp;It is an implementatio=
n choice.&nbsp; I don=A1=AFt see any conflicts here.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Once we=
 agree on the following items we can figure out TLV encoding options.<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><span sty=
le=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&qu=
ot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"=
>Allow for Advertisement of Min &amp; Max slot widths at different prioriti=
es =A8C up to 8<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4">
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le=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&qu=
ot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"=
>Min/Max slot width field =A8C 16 bit instead of 8&nbsp; (I see you are agr=
eeing to this change below)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo4">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><span sty=
le=3D"mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&qu=
ot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"=
>Max LSP Bandwidth =A8C this was debated in previous meetings but no firm c=
onclusion.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&=
nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhenghaomian [<a href=3D"mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.c=
om">mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 24, 2015 11:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Daniele Ce=
ccarelli; Ramon Casellas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<br>
<b>Subject:</b> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=
=CC=E5">=B4=F0=B8=B4</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: [CCAMP]
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D7=AA=B7=
=A2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexibl=
e-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Hi, Rajan,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Thanks for the information, I noticed there is a change talking a=
bout extending Flexi-grid data plan to satisfy requirements in RFC4202. I f=
orward this email to all the authors of
 OSPF draft to advertise your comments</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"=
font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"> &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Firstly let=A1=AFs recall the sub-TLV format in draft-dhillon-cca=
mp-flexgrid-ospfte-ext as follow:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;
<a name=3D"section-0">0</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;3<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 =
2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-=
&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#4=
3;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-=
&#43;-&#43;-&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Type=3D1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Length&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-------------------------=
--------------------------------------&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |Slice Spacing | Pri |&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Reserved&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-------------------------=
--------------------------------------&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; N-Start&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Num of Slices&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-------------------------=
--------------------------------------&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Min Slot Width&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Max Slot Width&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-------------------------=
--------------------------------------&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; | &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;Bit-Map showing Available Slices&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (up to 48 bytes)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-=
&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#4=
3;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-=
&#43;-&#43;-&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Then I share my understanding on your concern. Compared with sub-=
TLV in section 4.3 of draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01, I highlig=
ht the difference as follow:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">In your proposal,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Slice Spacing is preferred to be carried in the &nbsp;sub=
-TLV;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Priority bits are preferred to be included in sub-TLV;<o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">3)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Min/Max Widths should both be 16-bit;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">4)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">N-start and Num of Slices to represent the spectrum rathe=
r than C.F.G and S.W.G;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Below please find my comments:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Firstly I believe both of your structure and the current structur=
e in WG draft are satisfying the requirement of flexi-grid FWK draft (the i=
nfo model in Fig. 17). We only need to
 deal with some differences in representation format, and some additional i=
nformation may be useful.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Different slice spacing is applicable but may not be nece=
ssary; the spirit to introduce flexible grid is to allow flexibility in spe=
ctrum allocation and current WG draft
 can satisfy the requirement. Not much further advantage for using slice sp=
acing;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Priority bits: I agree that it is widely used, I am basic=
ally fine to include priority bits in the sub-TLV. My only concern is, ther=
e are also such priority information
 in other place (for example OTN BW sub-TLV in Section 4.1.3 in RFC7138), d=
o we need to repeat here? What is the relationship if we have two prioritie=
s? Is it possible the OTN priority is not consistent with flexi-grid priori=
ty? Why? And How to deal with this?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">3)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Agreed, will change both the min/max widths to 16-bit in =
the next version;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">4)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Personally I don=A1=AFt think it=A1=AFs necessary to chan=
ge the current WG draft: I think your proposed representation can have equi=
valent result as the one in current WG draft;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Rajan, please correct me if there is misunderstanding, also let m=
e know if you have other comments.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">All, please feel free to comments, or we move to the list if nece=
ssary</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Wing=
dings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt=
;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Haomian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=
=CE=CC=E5">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5"> Rajan R=
ao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
</span><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=B7=A2=
=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></span></b><span lang=3D"EN-=
US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5"> 2015</span><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=C4=EA<span lang=3D"EN-U=
S">2</span>=D4=C2<span lang=3D"EN-US">24</span>=C8=D5<span lang=3D"EN-US">
 4:03<br>
</span><b>=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></b><span lang=3D"=
EN-US"> Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<br>
</span><b>=B3=AD=CB=CD<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain<br>
</span><b>=D6=F7=CC=E2<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
> RE: [CCAMP] </span>
=D7=AA=B7=A2<span lang=3D"EN-US">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-gr=
id-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Haomian=
,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">The Fle=
xgrid FWK doc has been updated with reference to RFC4202. &nbsp;&nbsp;This =
should address the comment you had in the earlier email.&nbsp; Pl refer to =
updated doc (attached email from Ramon). &nbsp;Pl let us know
 how you would like to proceed. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">FWK doc=
 Snip below:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">5.1.2.&nbsp; Routing<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; The routing protoc=
ol will support all functions as described in<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; [RFC4202] and exte=
nd them to a flexi-grid data plane.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 03, 2015 2:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Actio=
n: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Haom=
ian,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx =
for the reply. Pl see below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">-----Original Message-----<b=
r>
From: Zhenghaomian [<a href=3D"mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com">mailto:zheng=
haomian@huawei.com</a>]
<br>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 11:22 PM<br>
To: Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang<br>
Cc: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain<br>
Subject: </span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=B4=F0=B8=
=B4</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: [CCAMP]
</span><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Hi, Rajan,<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Firstly sorry for the very l=
ate response.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">For your first concern, I se=
e some difference in TLVs about priority issue (Table I in your draft). I t=
hink I understand your description but I didn't find very much advantage to=
 include such 'scalable' settings.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black"><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">RR&g=
t;&gt; Priority based advertisement is pretty standard mechanism used in al=
l existing RFCs.&nbsp; For e.g. you can find these in WSON, OTN&nbsp; docs =
and any other Te-extensions draft.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Another concern from me is, =
for the flexi-grid literature, there are more than one WG draft, I think it=
's better to consider such case in fwk draft, and after that the OSPF one c=
an revise accordingly. P.S, I don't
 know whether this topic was discussed on the list before (perhaps there ar=
e some conclusions, let me know). If not, I would like to suggest move to t=
he list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">RR&g=
t;&gt; I looked at framework.&nbsp; Yes, it doesn=A1=AFt talk about priorit=
y based advertisement.&nbsp; Thanks for pointing this out. Good catch. We w=
ill provide this comment to FWK authors &amp; CC you.&nbsp; I do not
 see any issue updating the fwk doc with this detail. &nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">For your second concern on M=
ax LSP Bandwidth, my understanding is you are trying to use the description=
 in section 3.2 of your draft to replace the one in section 4.3 of current =
WG draft. Is this true? I believe the
 description in your draft is clear and correct. BTW, I noticed bit differe=
nce in Min Bandwidth (16 bits allocated in your draft and 8 bit in current =
WG draft), hopefully this will not be a big issue (8 bit support a bandwidt=
h up to 3200GHz, which is absolutely
 more than the normal requirement for a minimal BW).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">RR&g=
t;&gt; &nbsp;Yes, I was referring to section 3.2 in our draft.&nbsp; &nbsp;=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">We w=
ent with 16-bit fields for Min &amp; Max fields as the values for these fie=
lds range from 0 =A8C 384.&nbsp; We tried to address the case of using full=
 spectrum BW as one LSP.&nbsp; This is an extreme case
 but can=A1=AFt be ruled out.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Pl l=
et me know if you have any other comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Haomian<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">-----</span><span style=3D"f=
ont-family:MingLiU">=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">---=
--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=B7=A2=BC=FE=
=C8=CB</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infin=
era.com"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:rrao@=
infinera.com</span></a>]
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=B7=A2=CB=CD=
=CA=B1=BC=E4</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: 2014</span><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C4=EA</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">12</span><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=D4=C2</span><span lang=3D"EN=
-US">18</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C8=D5</spa=
n><span lang=3D"EN-US">
 6:09<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"=
>=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"=
>=B3=AD=CB=CD</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussa=
in<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"=
>=D6=F7</span><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=CC=E2</span><span lang=
=3D"EN-US">: RE: [CCAMP]
</span><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Haomian,<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">As I had mentioned we are no=
 longer pushing for SuperChannel in the draft.&nbsp; So, this should make i=
t easier to merge the docs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">In my view there are couple =
of areas your draft doesn't address which can be taken from our draft:<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">1.&nbsp; You have separated =
Max &amp; Min Slot width in Port Label restriction sub-TLV.&nbsp; This is O=
.K. But this doesn't allow for priority based Min/Max usage.&nbsp;&nbsp; Ou=
r draft allows for this flexibility which can be used.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">2.&nbsp; Max LSP Bandwidth f=
ield definition can be taken from our doc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The priority handling can be=
 further simplified by merging slice info &amp; Min/Max fields in to a sing=
le sub-TLV if other authors agree.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Pl let me know.<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thx<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Rajan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">-----Original Message-----<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">From: Zhenghaomian [<a href=
=3D"mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-de=
coration:none">mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com</span></a>]
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Sent: Tuesday, December 16, =
2014 5:15 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">To: Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Cc: Khuzema Pithewan<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Subject: </span><span style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=B4=F0=B8=B4</span><span lang=3D"EN-=
US">: [CCAMP]
</span><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Hi, Rajan and Khuzema,<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks for reminding. Do you=
 guys have any suggestion on how to merge? Even if we think the current dra=
ft is self-contained, we are still open on this.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I know there are some differ=
ent ideas from Infinera, but sorry I am not fully understand every detail. =
Please let me know the exact section that need to be updated and let's see =
how to proceed. Again, this will finally
 be determined by the WG since already adopted. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Haomian<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">-----</span><span style=3D"f=
ont-family:MingLiU">=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">---=
--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=B7=A2=BC=FE=
=C8=CB</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infin=
era.com"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:rrao@=
infinera.com</span></a>]
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=B7=A2=CB=CD=
=CA=B1=BC=E4</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: 2014</span><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C4=EA</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">12</span><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=D4=C2</span><span lang=3D"EN=
-US">17</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C8=D5</spa=
n><span lang=3D"EN-US">
 6:01<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"=
>=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"=
>=B3=AD=CB=CD</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: Khuzema Pithewan<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"=
>=D6=F7</span><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=CC=E2</span><span lang=
=3D"EN-US">: RE: [CCAMP]
</span><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Haomian,<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">We had sent couple of emails=
 asking about merging the contents with our draft.&nbsp; Do you see an oppo=
rtunity or any issues with the merge?&nbsp; Can you pl respond on how you w=
ould like to proceed? Pl see the attached email
 we had sent a while back.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Rajan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">-----Original Message-----<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">From: CCAMP [<a href=3D"mail=
to:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:=
none">mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</span></a>] On Behalf Of Zhenghaomian<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Sent: Tuesday, December 16, =
2014 12:24 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">To: <a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@=
ietf.org"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">ccamp@ietf.=
org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Subject: [CCAMP] </span><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: I=
-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Dear CCAMPers,<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">We upload an updated version=
 to reactivate the following draft against expiration, together updating th=
e Max width issue proposed in previous discussions. Your comments are highl=
y welcomed, thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Haomian on behalf of authors=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ration:none">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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>=D6=F7</span><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=CC=E2</span><span lang=
=3D"EN-US">: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01=
.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">A New Internet-Draft is avai=
lable from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">This draft is a work item of=
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o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; Title&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp; : GMPLS OSPF-TE Extensions in support of Flexible Grid<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; Authors&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : Xi=
an Zhang<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Haomian Zheng<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Ramon Casellas<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Daniele Ceccarelli<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Filename&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-=
01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Pages&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : 14<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Date&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : 2014-12-16<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Abstract:<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; This memo descr=
ibes the OSPF-TE extensions in support of GMPLS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; control of netw=
orks that include devices that use the new flexible<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; optical grid.<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The IETF datatracker status =
page for this draft is:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"https://datatrack=
er.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext/"><span style=3D"co=
lor:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft=
-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext/</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">There's also a htmlized vers=
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windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccam=
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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">A diff from the previous ver=
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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">____________________________=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Xian,<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Minimum LSP bandwidth =
will address technological advances. For e.g. tomorrow=A1=AFs 6.25GHz &nbsp=
;instead of today=A1=AFs 12.5GHz. GMPLS extensions should cover the case of=
 network having a mix of different hardware capabilities.
 Advertising per priority aligns with RFC4202.&nbsp; I don=A1=AFt see any i=
ssues.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">As far as Maximum LSP =
bandwidth goes, either option would work but my preference would be to put =
it in technology specific part (SCSI).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhangxia=
n (Xian) [mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Hi, R=
ajan, all,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;=A1=B0</span><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Min &a=
mp; Max slot=A1=B1 you mentioned below is a bit mis-leading. I think you wa=
nted to say =A1=B0Min &amp; Max LSP bandwidth=A1=B1. Let talk them one by o=
ne since we are
 not aligned yet on both. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;Why do we need to advertise Min LSP bandwidth per priority in=
 ISCD, e.g., a request cannot set up a LSP smaller than X GHz and it varies=
 per priority? If you&nbsp; meant to say the interface limitation, it is
 covered in Section 4.3 already. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p; &nbsp;As for the Max LSP bandwidth information, I agree with you that RF=
C4204 has this requirement. This draft (draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01) needs to be updated to reflect this. I can think of
 two options: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Option A: use the exis=
ting fields (MAX LSP Bandwidth at priority x, x=3D0-7) &nbsp;in the ISCD (d=
efined in Section 1.4. of RFC4203). The point that we need to update is the=
 unit to be usable in the context of Flexi-grid.
 It will be Hz not byte per second.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Option B: We add the m=
ax LSP bandwidth field (16 bit) in the Available Labels Field by using the =
Reserved field. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Whi=
ch option does the WG prefer?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Regards,<br>
Xian</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Ra=
o [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:SimSun">=C4=EA</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=D4=C2</span><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">28</span>=
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=C8=D5</=
span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;">
 2:51<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp=
@ietf.org</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Xian, all<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Section 4.3 is trying =
to use port label restrictions sub-TLV with a new restriction type.&nbsp; T=
his is fine.&nbsp; But how does a path computing node determine if it can u=
se the link to setup an LSP with N-slots @ priority
 =A1=AEp=A1=AF?&nbsp; &nbsp;For e.g&nbsp; I don=A1=AFt want to allow priori=
ty 7 LSPs to use bandwidth greater than 20 slots on the link but allow for =
LSPs with priority 0, 1 &amp; 2.&nbsp; Where is this info in the TLV?<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">We had given examples =
when we presented our draft in Taipei IETF-82. &nbsp;Ref slides 8 &amp; 10 =
(link below).&nbsp; We had coverage for advertisement of&nbsp; Min &amp; Ma=
x slot widths per priority. This is meant to align with RFC
 4202.&nbsp; I believe WG doc lacks this and needs to address.<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><a href=3D"http://www.=
ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/ccamp-18.pdf">http://www.ietf.org/proceeding=
s/82/slides/ccamp-18.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">thx<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhangxia=
n (Xian) [<a href=3D"mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com">mailto:zhang.xian@huawei=
.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 26, 2015 5:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.o=
rg</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Hi, Raj=
an and all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.5pt;color:black">Thank you for your clarification and I now fully under=
stand your question. I think you have misunderstood Section 4.3. of this dr=
aft. It was not to describe dynamic Max
 &amp; Min LSP bandwidth but rather the capability/constraint associated wi=
th an port, which rarely change over time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:10.5pt"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.5pt;color:black">Isn=A1=AFt information per priority already supported=
? Quoting text from the drafts referred:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<pre style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;col=
or:black">=A1=B0</span><span lang=3D"EN" style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-fami=
ly:SimSun">The technology specific part of the WSON ISCD may include a vari=
able<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN" style=
=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:SimSun">&nbsp;&nbsp; number of sub-TLVs cal=
led Bandwidth sub-TLVs.</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:8.0pt=
;font-family:SimSun">=A1=B1</span><span lang=3D"EN" style=3D"font-size:8.0p=
t;font-family:SimSun"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN" style=
=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:SimSun"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.5pt;color:black">As for the Mix and Max LSP bandwidth, could you give m=
e an example of what you said below, i.e.,=A1=B0Availability of&nbsp; =A1=
=AEN=A1=AF consecutive labels doesn=A1=AFt mean you can setup an
 LSP with a size of =A1=AEN=A1=AF=A1=B1? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">&nbsp;&=
nbsp; &nbsp;What does the WG think of the issue under discussion?<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.5pt;color:black">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.5pt;color:black">Xian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Ra=
o [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:SimSun">=C4=EA</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=D4=C2</span><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">27</span>=
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=C8=D5</=
span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;">
 4:03<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp=
@ietf.org</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Xian,<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">I understand this doc =
is trying to reuse
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">GEN-ENCODE &amp; ther=
e is support for priority. &nbsp;I am not referring to this one. &nbsp;The =
Min Width &amp; Max &nbsp;Width fields do exist in the draft but these alon=
e are not sufficient. We need info per priority for the following
 reason.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">The i=
ntent of Min &amp; Max width info is to specify what is the Minimum/Maximum=
 LSP bandwidth an LSP could reserve at a given priority =A1=AEp=A1=AF on th=
e link.&nbsp; You can draw parallel to =A1=AEMinimum LSP Bandwidth=A1=AF
 &amp; =A1=AEMaximum LSP Bandwidth=A1=AF fields in RFC 4202.&nbsp; &nbsp;<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">I don=
=A1=AFt understand how you can derive this from label set field.&nbsp; &nbs=
p;Availability of&nbsp; =A1=AEN=A1=AF consecutive labels doesn=A1=AFt mean =
you can setup an LSP with a size of =A1=AEN=A1=AF.&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Thx<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Rajan=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhangxia=
n (Xian) [<a href=3D"mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com">mailto:zhang.xian@huawei=
.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 25, 2015 5:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.o=
rg</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Hi, R=
ajan,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; As I was not involved earlier, I find the following may be &n=
bsp;a bit long for others in the WG to get involved. &nbsp;Before I dive in=
to the discussion and share my thoughts, am I accurate if I recap
 the question as:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:5.25pt"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp; You think the existing text in draft-i=
etf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01 do not support the following:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:23.25pt;text-indent:-.25=
in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><span s=
tyle=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497=
D">Do not support priority;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:23.25pt;text-indent:-.25=
in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><span s=
tyle=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497=
D">Do not convey the min &amp; max LSP bandwidth information in the SCSI fi=
eld;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Could=
 you confirm my interpretation of your issue?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">The f=
ollowing is my thoughts ( subject to change if the question I recapped abov=
e is not as exact as what you want to say):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">The&n=
bsp; current method is to reuse what has already been proposed for WSON. So=
 it reuses the SCSI field defined in WSON-OSPF draft (<a href=3D"https://to=
ols.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility-ospf-15#sectio=
n-3.1">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibili=
ty-ospf-15#section-3.1</a>).
 So, it DOES support priority (see the details are in [GEN-ENCODE] draft-ie=
tf-ccamp-general-constraint-encode-20). Exactly because of the same reason,=
 the draft under discussion uses label set field to describe what frequency=
 slots are available. So, although
 it allows for all different varieties supported by [GEN-ENCODE] (i.e., lis=
t, bitmap, inclusive, exclusive etc.), the method does not see the need of =
specify the max&amp;min LSP bandwidth since it can be naturally deduced fro=
m the available frequency spectrum information
 conveyed. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">The a=
bove discussion actually reminds me of a question Ramon raised up a while a=
go among the authors of this draft, what has been defined in WSON-OSPF is t=
ruly usable labels in signaling. But
 with Flexi-grid, it is not true anymore. For example, although we use Incl=
usive Label Range to describe available frequency range, say the example in=
 Section 4.4 of &nbsp;draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01 (assume m=
=3D1), none of these labels are directly
 usable if what is actually requested is a bandwidth with m=3D2. &nbsp;I my=
self do not see any issue as long as we make it clear we use the format jus=
t to describe what resource available NOT usable labels. Since it is a WG d=
raft, it is worthwhile to solicit what
 you think?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Cheer=
s,<br>
Xian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Ra=
o [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:SimSun">=C4=EA</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=D4=C2</span><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">26</span>=
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=C8=D5</=
span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;">
 7:17<br>
<b>To:</b> Daniele Ceccarelli; Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang; CCAMP (<a href=3D=
"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a>)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Ramon Case=
llas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: dra=
ft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Daniele,<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Sure.&nbsp; Added WG i=
n the list for comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan&nbsp; <o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Daniele =
Ceccarelli [<a href=3D"mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com">mailto:danie=
le.ceccarelli@ericsson.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Ramon Case=
llas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: dra=
ft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">This is a really inter=
esting discussion and since we=A1=AFre speaking about a working group draft=
 I think we should continue con the mailing list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Please include the WG =
in your reply.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">BR<br>
Daniele<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
4.0pt">
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Ra=
o [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> mercoled=A8=AC 25 febbraio 2015 19:56<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Daniele Ce=
ccarelli; Ramon Casellas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: dra=
ft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Haomian,<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">The priority in each l=
ayer is independent. &nbsp;The intent of explicitly carrying priority info =
in the advertisement is to allow for LSP creation at different priorities.&=
nbsp; Note that priority defined in OTN RFC don=A1=AFt
 apply here as it is a different layer. &nbsp;&nbsp;You can have L0-LSP set=
up at priority-1 but L1-Telink (OTN link) formed out of this may advertise =
all 8 or subset of them. &nbsp;It is an implementation choice.&nbsp; I don=
=A1=AFt see any conflicts here.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Once we agree on the f=
ollowing items we can figure out TLV encoding options.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;=
mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:=
Ignore">1.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Allow for Adve=
rtisement of Min &amp; Max slot widths at different priorities =A8C up to 8=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;=
mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:=
Ignore">2.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Min/Max slot w=
idth field =A8C 16 bit instead of 8&nbsp; (I see you are agreeing to this c=
hange below)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;=
mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:=
Ignore">3.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Max LSP Bandwi=
dth =A8C this was debated in previous meetings but no firm conclusion.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhenghao=
mian [<a href=3D"mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com">mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei=
.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 24, 2015 11:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Daniele Ce=
ccarelli; Ramon Casellas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<br>
<b>Subject:</b> </span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:SimSun">=B4=F0=B8=B4</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: [CCAMP]
</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=
=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma=
&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid=
-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Hi, R=
ajan,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Thank=
s for the information, I noticed there is a change talking about extending =
Flexi-grid data plan to satisfy requirements in RFC4202. I forward this ema=
il to all the authors of OSPF draft
 to advertise your comments</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-fami=
ly:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"> &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">First=
ly let=A1=AFs recall the sub-TLV format in draft-dhillon-ccamp-flexgrid-osp=
fte-ext as follow:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;
<a name=3D"section-0">0</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;3<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2=
 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#4=
3;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-=
&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Type=3D1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Length&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;----------------------------------------------=
-----------------&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |Slice Spacing | Pri |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp; Reserved&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;----------------------------------------------=
-----------------&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; N-Start&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Num=
 of Slices&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;----------------------------------------------=
-----------------&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; M=
in Slot Width&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Max Slot Width&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;----------------------------------------------=
-----------------&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; | &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Bit-Map showing =
Available Slices&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (up =
to 48 bytes)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#4=
3;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-=
&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Then =
I share my understanding on your concern. Compared with sub-TLV in section =
4.3 of draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01, I highlight the differen=
ce as follow:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">In yo=
ur proposal,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in=
;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><span s=
tyle=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497=
D">Slice Spacing is preferred to be carried in the &nbsp;sub-TLV;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in=
;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><span s=
tyle=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497=
D">Priority bits are preferred to be included in sub-TLV;<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in=
;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><span s=
tyle=3D"mso-list:Ignore">3)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497=
D">Min/Max Widths should both be 16-bit;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in=
;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><span s=
tyle=3D"mso-list:Ignore">4)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497=
D">N-start and Num of Slices to represent the spectrum rather than C.F.G an=
d S.W.G;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Below=
 please find my comments:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">First=
ly I believe both of your structure and the current structure in WG draft a=
re satisfying the requirement of flexi-grid FWK draft (the info model in Fi=
g. 17). We only need to deal with some
 differences in representation format, and some additional information may =
be useful.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in=
;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><span s=
tyle=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497=
D">Different slice spacing is applicable but may not be necessary; the spir=
it to introduce flexible grid is to allow flexibility in spectrum allocatio=
n and current WG draft can satisfy
 the requirement. Not much further advantage for using slice spacing; <o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in=
;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><span s=
tyle=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497=
D">Priority bits: I agree that it is widely used, I am basically fine to in=
clude priority bits in the sub-TLV. My only concern is, there are also such=
 priority information in other place
 (for example OTN BW sub-TLV in Section 4.1.3 in RFC7138), do we need to re=
peat here? What is the relationship if we have two priorities? Is it possib=
le the OTN priority is not consistent with flexi-grid priority? Why? And Ho=
w to deal with this?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in=
;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><span s=
tyle=3D"mso-list:Ignore">3)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497=
D">Agreed, will change both the min/max widths to 16-bit in the next versio=
n;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in=
;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><span s=
tyle=3D"mso-list:Ignore">4)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497=
D">Personally I don=A1=AFt think it=A1=AFs necessary to change the current =
WG draft: I think your proposed representation can have equivalent result a=
s the one in current WG draft;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Rajan=
, please correct me if there is misunderstanding, also let me know if you h=
ave other comments.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">All, =
please feel free to comments, or we move to the list if necessary</span><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Best =
wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Haomi=
an<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:SimSun">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB</span></b><b><span style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:SimSun"> Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailto:rra=
o@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4</span>:</b> 2015<span lang=
=3D"ZH-CN">=C4=EA</span>2<span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=D4=C2</span>24<span lang=3D"=
ZH-CN">=C8=D5</span> 4:03<br>
<b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span>:</b> Zhenghaomian; Fatai =
Zhang<br>
<b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=B3=AD=CB=CD</span>:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar=
 Hussain<br>
<b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=D6=F7=CC=E2</span>:</b> RE: [CCAMP] <span lang=3D"=
ZH-CN">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span>: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Haomian,<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">The Flexgrid FWK doc h=
as been updated with reference to RFC4202. &nbsp;&nbsp;This should address =
the comment you had in the earlier email.&nbsp; Pl refer to updated doc (at=
tached email from Ramon). &nbsp;Pl let us know how you would
 like to proceed. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">FWK doc Snip below:<o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">5.1.2.&nbsp; Routing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; The routing protocol will support=
 all functions as described in<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; [RFC4202] and extend them to a fl=
exi-grid data plane.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Ra=
o
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 03, 2015 2:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: dra=
ft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Haomian,<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx for the reply. =
Pl see below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Zhenghaomian [<a href=3D"mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com">mailto:zheng=
haomian@huawei.com</a>]
<br>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 11:22 PM<br>
To: Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang<br>
Cc: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain<br>
Subject: <span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=
=B4=F0=B8=B4</span>: [CCAMP] <span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:Ming=
LiU">
=D7=AA=B7=A2</span>: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01=
.txt<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Hi, Rajan,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Firstly sorry for the very late response.<o:p></o=
:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">For your first concern, I see some difference in =
TLVs about priority issue (Table I in your draft). I think I understand you=
r description but I didn't find very much advantage to include such 'scalab=
le' settings.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">RR&gt;&gt; Priority=
 based advertisement is pretty standard mechanism used in all existing RFCs=
.&nbsp; For e.g. you can find these in WSON, OTN&nbsp; docs and any other T=
e-extensions draft.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Another concern from me is, for the flexi-grid li=
terature, there are more than one WG draft, I think it's better to consider=
 such case in fwk draft, and after that the OSPF one can revise accordingly=
. P.S, I don't know whether this topic
 was discussed on the list before (perhaps there are some conclusions, let =
me know). If not, I would like to suggest move to the list.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">RR&gt;&gt; I looked=
 at framework.&nbsp; Yes, it doesn=A1=AFt talk about priority based adverti=
sement.&nbsp; Thanks for pointing this out. Good catch. We will provide thi=
s comment to FWK authors &amp; CC you.&nbsp; I do not see any issue
 updating the fwk doc with this detail. &nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">For your second concern on Max LSP Bandwidth, my =
understanding is you are trying to use the description in section 3.2 of yo=
ur draft to replace the one in section 4.3 of current WG draft. Is this tru=
e? I believe the description in your
 draft is clear and correct. BTW, I noticed bit difference in Min Bandwidth=
 (16 bits allocated in your draft and 8 bit in current WG draft), hopefully=
 this will not be a big issue (8 bit support a bandwidth up to 3200GHz, whi=
ch is absolutely more than the normal
 requirement for a minimal BW).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">RR&gt;&gt; &nbsp;Ye=
s, I was referring to section 3.2 in our draft.&nbsp; &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">We went with 16-bit=
 fields for Min &amp; Max fields as the values for these fields range from =
0 =A8C 384.&nbsp; We tried to address the case of using full spectrum BW as=
 one LSP.&nbsp; This is an extreme case but can=A1=AFt be
 ruled out.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Pl let me know if y=
ou have any other comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Haomian<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">-----<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:Mi=
ngLiU">=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE</span>-----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:MingLiU=
">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB</span>: Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com=
"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:rrao@infiner=
a.com</span></a>]
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:MingLiU=
">=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4</span>: 2014<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-f=
amily:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C4=EA</span>12<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"f=
ont-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=D4=C2</span>18<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C8=D5</span>
 6:09<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;M=
S Gothic&quot;">=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span>: Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<o:p></=
o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;M=
S Gothic&quot;">=B3=AD=CB=CD</span>: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain<o:p=
></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;M=
S Gothic&quot;">=D6=F7</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:Ming=
LiU">=CC=E2</span>: RE: [CCAMP]
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span>: I-D=
 Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Haomian,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">As I had mentioned we are no longer pushing for S=
uperChannel in the draft.&nbsp; So, this should make it easier to merge the=
 docs.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">In my view there are couple of areas your draft d=
oesn't address which can be taken from our draft:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">1.&nbsp; You have separated Max &amp; Min Slot wi=
dth in Port Label restriction sub-TLV.&nbsp; This is O.K. But this doesn't =
allow for priority based Min/Max usage.&nbsp;&nbsp; Our draft allows for th=
is flexibility which can be used.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">2.&nbsp; Max LSP Bandwidth field definition can b=
e taken from our doc.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">The priority handling can be further simplified b=
y merging slice info &amp; Min/Max fields in to a single sub-TLV if other a=
uthors agree.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Pl let me know.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Thx<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Rajan<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">From: Zhenghaomian [<a href=3D"mailto:zhenghaomia=
n@huawei.com"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:=
zhenghaomian@huawei.com</span></a>]
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 5:15 PM<o:p></o:=
p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">To: Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Cc: Khuzema Pithewan<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Subject: <span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-famil=
y:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">
=B4=F0=B8=B4</span>: [CCAMP] <span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:Ming=
LiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span>: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-e=
xt-01.txt<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Hi, Rajan and Khuzema,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Thanks for reminding. Do you guys have any sugges=
tion on how to merge? Even if we think the current draft is self-contained,=
 we are still open on this.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">I know there are some different ideas from Infine=
ra, but sorry I am not fully understand every detail. Please let me know th=
e exact section that need to be updated and let's see how to proceed. Again=
, this will finally be determined
 by the WG since already adopted. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Haomian<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">-----<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:Mi=
ngLiU">=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE</span>-----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:MingLiU=
">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB</span>: Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com=
"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:rrao@infiner=
a.com</span></a>]
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:MingLiU=
">=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4</span>: 2014<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-f=
amily:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C4=EA</span>12<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"f=
ont-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=D4=C2</span>17<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C8=D5</span>
 6:01<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;M=
S Gothic&quot;">=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span>: Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<o:p></=
o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;M=
S Gothic&quot;">=B3=AD=CB=CD</span>: Khuzema Pithewan<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;M=
S Gothic&quot;">=D6=F7</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:Ming=
LiU">=CC=E2</span>: RE: [CCAMP]
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span>: I-D=
 Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Haomian,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">We had sent couple of emails asking about merging=
 the contents with our draft.&nbsp; Do you see an opportunity or any issues=
 with the merge?&nbsp; Can you pl respond on how you would like to proceed?=
 Pl see the attached email we had sent a while
 back.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Thanks<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Rajan<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">From: CCAMP [<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf=
.org"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:ccamp-bo=
unces@ietf.org</span></a>] On Behalf Of Zhenghaomian<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 12:24 AM<o:p></o=
:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">To: <a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org"><span style=
=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a><o:p></=
o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Subject: [CCAMP] <span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"fo=
nt-family:MingLiU">
=D7=AA=B7=A2</span>: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01=
.txt<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Dear CCAMPers,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">We upload an updated version to reactivate the fo=
llowing draft against expiration, together updating the Max width issue pro=
posed in previous discussions. Your comments are highly welcomed, thanks.<o=
:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Haomian on behalf of authors<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">-----<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:Mi=
ngLiU">=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE</span>-----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:MingLiU=
">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB</span>: CCAMP [<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.or=
g"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:ccamp-bounc=
es@ietf.org</span></a>]
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=B4=FA=B1=
=ED</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN"> </span>
<a href=3D"mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org"><span style=3D"color:windowtext=
;text-decoration:none">internet-drafts@ietf.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:MingLiU=
">=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4</span>: 2014<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-f=
amily:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C4=EA</span>12<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"f=
ont-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=D4=C2</span>16<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C8=D5</span>
 16:16<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;M=
S Gothic&quot;">=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span>:
<a href=3D"mailto:i-d-announce@ietf.org"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;te=
xt-decoration:none">i-d-announce@ietf.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;M=
S Gothic&quot;">=B3=AD=CB=CD</span>:
<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-deco=
ration:none">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;M=
S Gothic&quot;">=D6=F7</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:Ming=
LiU">=CC=E2</span>: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-lin=
e Internet-Drafts directories.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">This draft is a work item of the Common Control a=
nd Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Title&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : GMPLS OSPF-TE=
 Extensions in support of Flexible Grid<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Author=
s&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : Xian Zhang<o:p></o:p></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Haomian Zheng<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Ramon Casellas<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Daniele Ceccarelli<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Filename&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp; : draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Pages&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : 14<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Date&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : 2014-12-16<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Abstract:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; This memo describes the OSPF-TE exte=
nsions in support of GMPLS<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; control of networks that include dev=
ices that use the new flexible<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; optical grid.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">The IETF datatracker status page for this draft i=
s:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft=
-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext/"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-d=
ecoration:none">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-=
grid-ospf-ext/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">There's also a htmlized version available at:<o:p=
></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-=
ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decor=
ation:none">http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-=
ext-01</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">A diff from the previous version is available at:=
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><a href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddra=
ft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;te=
xt-decoration:none">http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-fle=
xible-grid-ospf-ext-01</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Please note that it may take a couple of minutes =
from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are availab=
le at tools.ietf.org.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous F=
TP at:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><a href=3D"ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/"><=
span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">ftp://ftp.ietf.org/int=
ernet-drafts/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">_______________________________________________<o=
:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">CCAMP mailing list<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><a href=3D"mailto:CCAMP@ietf.org"><span style=3D"=
color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">CCAMP@ietf.org</span></a><o:p></o:p>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/=
ccamp"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://www.ie=
tf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">_______________________________________________<o=
:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">CCAMP mailing list<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><a href=3D"mailto:CCAMP@ietf.org"><span style=3D"=
color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">CCAMP@ietf.org</span></a><o:p></o:p>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/=
ccamp"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://www.ie=
tf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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Dear all,

Please see inline


El 03/03/2015 a las 1:55, Rajan Rao escribió:
>
> Xian,
>
> Minimum LSP bandwidth will address technological advances. For e.g. 
> tomorrow’s 6.25GHz  instead of today’s 12.5GHz. GMPLS extensions 
> should cover the case of network having a mix of different hardware 
> capabilities. Advertising per priority aligns with RFC4202.  I don’t 
> see any issues.
>
Ramon> I have no objections to adding Min LSP bw if we need it, I just 
want to point out one remark. If I remember correctly, we had discussed 
the issue whether we should be "future-proof" and take into account 
future versions of the flexi-grid, notably, the granularity. In 
particular, the following question was raised:

• Please comment on future changes regarding the values of nominal 
central frequency (NCF) granularity [NCFG, currently 6.25 GHz] and slot 
width granularity [currently 12.5 GHz], as defined in G.694.1. Is ITU-T 
considering alternative values (e.g. 3.125 GHz) for NCFG in the 
foreseeable future? If yes, is it correct to assume, that the following 
always holds, w.r.t. slot width granularity and NCF granularity?
SWG = 2 * NCFG

The reply we got was: 
[https://datatracker.ietf.org/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2014-04-23-itu-t-sg-15-ccamp-lsr-on-flexible-grid-reply-to-ietf-ccamp-ls012-attachment-1.pdf]
Currently, there have been no proposals made to Q6/15 to standardize a 
flexible grid with different granularity of slot width or nominal 
central frequency. If such a proposal is made in the future, it is more 
likely that a second flexible grid with different granularity will be 
defined in addition to the existing grid rather than changes made to the 
current flexible grid. (...) If in future a flexible grid with finer 
granularity is introduced, the same 2:1 relationship should not be assumed.

So IMHO, the text gives arguments to mainly limit ourselves to current 
in force documents. That said, I think it is worth considering other 
reasons (if any) to disseminate min-lsp-bw. It may be short-sighted to 
discard the option.

> As far as Maximum LSP bandwidth goes, either option would work but my 
> preference would be to put it in technology specific part (SCSI).
>

> *From:*Zhangxian (Xian) [mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:35 PM
> *To:* Rajan Rao; CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org); 'Ramon Casellas'
> *Cc:* Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu
> *Subject:* RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: 
> draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt
>
> Hi, Rajan, all,
>

>       Why do we need to advertise Min LSP bandwidth per priority in 
> ISCD, e.g., a request cannot set up a LSP smaller than X GHz and it 
> varies per priority? If you  meant to say the interface limitation, it 
> is covered in Section 4.3 already.
>
Ramon> See above.
>
>       As for the Max LSP bandwidth information, I agree with you that 
> RFC4204 has this requirement. This draft 
> (draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01) needs to be updated to 
> reflect this. I can think of two options:
>
> Option A: use the existing fields (MAX LSP Bandwidth at priority x, 
> x=0-7)  in the ISCD (defined in Section 1.4. of RFC4203). The point 
> that we need to update is the unit to be usable in the context of 
> Flexi-grid. It will be Hz not byte per second.
>
Ramon> I am wary of this one. With the original goal of "separation of 
concerns", we focus on the media layer and usually express optical 
spectrum widths in terms of "m" values. It seems clear that we must not 
talk about bytes per second  (modulation formats spectral efficiency) 
but I would not directly introduce "Hz" (along the minor issues of 
encoding IEEE Giga Hertz  etc.). Also, I am not fully convinced of 
reusing an existing information object and change the unit. In other 
words, IMHO min and max LSP bw values should be stated in terms of "m"s, 
and all fields related to bytes / sec should be set to e.g. zero.


> Option B: We add the max LSP bandwidth field (16 bit) in the Available 
> Labels Field by using the Reserved field.
>
>
Ramon> Are these the only options we have? Although adding the max LSP 
bw field in the reserved field (currently 24 bits, enough) may end up 
being the preferred option, I am not sure why we are discarding adding 
in the ISCD/SCSI new sub TLVs for this purpose, specially if we also 
justify having the min-LSP-bw? I have no strong opinion, but I do agree 
it makes sense to have it in the SCSI.

Thanks and best regards
Ramon



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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Xian,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Minimum LSP
            bandwidth will address technological advances. For e.g.
            tomorrow’s 6.25GHz  instead of today’s 12.5GHz. GMPLS
            extensions should cover the case of network having a mix of
            different hardware capabilities. Advertising per priority
            aligns with RFC4202.  I don’t see any issues.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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    Ramon&gt; I have no objections to adding Min LSP bw if we need it, I
    just want to point out one remark. If I remember correctly, we had
    discussed the issue whether we should be "future-proof" and take
    into account future versions of the flexi-grid, notably, the
    granularity. In particular, the following question was raised:<br>
    <br>
    • Please comment on future changes regarding the values of nominal
    central frequency (NCF) granularity [NCFG, currently 6.25 GHz] and
    slot width granularity [currently 12.5 GHz], as defined in G.694.1.
    Is ITU-T considering alternative values (e.g. 3.125 GHz) for NCFG in
    the foreseeable future? If yes, is it correct to assume, that the
    following always holds, w.r.t. slot width granularity and NCF
    granularity?       <br>
    SWG = 2 * NCFG<br>
    <br>
    The reply we got was:
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2014-04-23-itu-t-sg-15-ccamp-lsr-on-flexible-grid-reply-to-ietf-ccamp-ls012-attachment-1.pdf">https://datatracker.ietf.org/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2014-04-23-itu-t-sg-15-ccamp-lsr-on-flexible-grid-reply-to-ietf-ccamp-ls012-attachment-1.pdf</a>]<br>
    Currently, there have been no proposals made to Q6/15 to standardize
    a flexible grid with different granularity of slot width or nominal
    central frequency. If such a proposal is made in the future, it is
    more likely that a second flexible grid with different granularity
    will be defined in addition to the existing grid rather than changes
    made to the current flexible grid. (...) If in future a flexible
    grid with finer granularity is introduced, the same 2:1 relationship
    should not be assumed.<br>
    <br>
    So IMHO, the text gives arguments to mainly limit ourselves to
    current in force documents. That said, I think it is worth
    considering other reasons (if any) to disseminate min-lsp-bw. It may
    be short-sighted to discard the option.<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:84b74393e892444ab2770fc5327e66d3@sv-ex13-prd1.infinera.com"
      type="cite">
      <div class="WordSection1">
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">As far as
            Maximum LSP bandwidth goes, either option would work but my
            preference would be to put it in technology specific part
            (SCSI).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:84b74393e892444ab2770fc5327e66d3@sv-ex13-prd1.infinera.com"
      type="cite">
      <div class="WordSection1">
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <div>
          <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF
            1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
                Zhangxian (Xian) [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com">mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com</a>]
                <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:35 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a>); 'Ramon
                Casellas'<br>
                <b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action:
                draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
        </div>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Hi, Rajan, all,
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:84b74393e892444ab2770fc5327e66d3@sv-ex13-prd1.infinera.com"
      type="cite">
      <div class="WordSection1">
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">      <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">      Why do we
            need to advertise Min LSP bandwidth per priority in ISCD,
            e.g., a request cannot set up a LSP smaller than X GHz and
            it varies per priority? If you  meant to say the interface
            limitation, it is covered in Section 4.3 already.  <br>
          </span></p>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    Ramon&gt; See above.<br>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:84b74393e892444ab2770fc5327e66d3@sv-ex13-prd1.infinera.com"
      type="cite">
      <div class="WordSection1">
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">      As for
            the Max LSP bandwidth information, I agree with you that
            RFC4204 has this requirement. This draft
            (draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01) needs to be
            updated to reflect this. I can think of two options: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Option A: use
            the existing fields (MAX LSP Bandwidth at priority x, x=0-7)
             in the ISCD (defined in Section 1.4. of RFC4203). The point
            that we need to update is the unit to be usable in the
            context of Flexi-grid. It will be Hz not byte per second.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    Ramon&gt; I am wary of this one. With the original goal of
    "separation of concerns", we focus on the media layer and usually
    express optical spectrum widths in terms of "m" values. It seems
    clear that we must not talk about bytes per second  (modulation
    formats spectral efficiency) but I would not directly introduce "Hz"
    (along the minor issues of encoding IEEE Giga Hertz  etc.). Also, I
    am not fully convinced of reusing an existing information object and
    change the unit. In other words, IMHO min and max LSP bw values
    should be stated in terms of "m"s, and all fields related to bytes /
    sec should be set to e.g. zero.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:84b74393e892444ab2770fc5327e66d3@sv-ex13-prd1.infinera.com"
      type="cite">
      <div class="WordSection1">
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Option B: We
            add the max LSP bandwidth field (16 bit) in the Available
            Labels Field by using the Reserved field.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <br>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    Ramon&gt; Are these the only options we have? Although adding the
    max LSP bw field in the reserved field (currently 24 bits, enough)
    may end up being the preferred option, I am not sure why we are
    discarding adding in the ISCD/SCSI new sub TLVs for this purpose,
    specially if we also justify having the min-LSP-bw? I have no strong
    opinion, but I do agree it makes sense to have it in the SCSI.<br>
    <br>
    Thanks and best regards<br>
    Ramon<br>
    <br>
    <br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#632423">Hi, Rajan,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [mailto:rrao@infinera.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=
=CC=E5">=C4=EA</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">3</span><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D4=C2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">3</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=C8=
=D5</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 8:56<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Xian,<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Minimum=
 LSP bandwidth will address technological advances. For e.g. tomorrow=A1=AF=
s 6.25GHz &nbsp;instead of today=A1=AFs 12.5GHz. GMPLS extensions should co=
ver the case of network having a mix of different hardware
 capabilities. </span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#632423">[Xian]: I agree with the above statements. But they are a propert=
y of an interface, which AFAIC does not change over time. That=A1=AFs why I=
 said it have already be covered by Section
 4.3 (please take a look if any information is missing as well). &nbsp;ISCD=
, especially SCSI is used to advertise the available bandwidth information =
and it is changing dynamically. So, I do not think SCSI is the right place =
to do so.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Adverti=
sing per priority aligns with RFC4202.&nbsp; I don=A1=AFt see any issues.</=
span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#632423"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#632423">[Xian] I have to disagree.&nbsp; &nbsp;RFC4202 does not support a=
dvertising min LSP bandwidth per priority. Please take a look at the encodi=
ng of Section 1.4. of RFC4203. What=A1=AFs said there:
 for PSC and TDM, you carry ONE minimum LSP bandwidth information (which is=
 not associated per priority); for Lambda switching, it does not have any S=
CSI at all.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#632423"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#632423">Having said all these, I personally do not think the value of adv=
ertising min LSP bandwidth per priority. If you disagree again, could you g=
ive me an usage example?&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">As far =
as Maximum LSP bandwidth goes, either option would work but my preference w=
ould be to put it in technology specific part (SCSI).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#632423">[Xian]: point taken. I agree with you that both work but I would =
prefer to take Option 1. Let=A1=AFs get a bit more feedback from the WG bef=
ore updating the draft.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#632423"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#632423">Regards,<br>
Xian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhangxian (Xian) [mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Hi, Rajan, all,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;=A1=B0</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"color:#1F497D">Min &amp; Max slot=A1=B1 you mentioned below is a b=
it mis-leading. I think you wanted to say =A1=B0Min &amp; Max LSP bandwidth=
=A1=B1. Let talk them
 one by one since we are not aligned yet on both. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Why do we need to advertise Min LSP bandwidth =
per priority in ISCD, e.g., a request cannot set up a LSP smaller than X GH=
z and it varies per priority? If you&nbsp; meant to say the interface limit=
ation,
 it is covered in Section 4.3 already. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;As for the Max LSP bandwidth information, I agree w=
ith you that RFC4204 has this requirement. This draft (draft-ietf-ccamp-fle=
xible-grid-ospf-ext-01) needs to be updated to reflect this. I
 can think of two options: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Option =
A: use the existing fields (MAX LSP Bandwidth at priority x, x=3D0-7) &nbsp=
;in the ISCD (defined in Section 1.4. of RFC4203). The point that we need t=
o update is the unit to be usable in the context
 of Flexi-grid. It will be Hz not byte per second.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Option =
B: We add the max LSP bandwidth field (16 bit) in the Available Labels Fiel=
d by using the Reserved field. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp; Which option does the WG prefer?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Regards=
,<br>
Xian</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailt=
o:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=
=CC=E5">=C4=EA</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2</span><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D4=C2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">28</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=C8=
=D5</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 2:51<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp=
@ietf.org</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Xian, a=
ll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Section=
 4.3 is trying to use port label restrictions sub-TLV with a new restrictio=
n type.&nbsp; This is fine.&nbsp; But how does a path computing node determ=
ine if it can use the link to setup an LSP with
 N-slots @ priority =A1=AEp=A1=AF?&nbsp; &nbsp;For e.g&nbsp; I don=A1=AFt w=
ant to allow priority 7 LSPs to use bandwidth greater than 20 slots on the =
link but allow for LSPs with priority 0, 1 &amp; 2.&nbsp; Where is this inf=
o in the TLV?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">We had =
given examples when we presented our draft in Taipei IETF-82. &nbsp;Ref sli=
des 8 &amp; 10 (link below).&nbsp; We had coverage for advertisement of&nbs=
p; Min &amp; Max slot widths per priority. This is meant to align
 with RFC 4202.&nbsp; I believe WG doc lacks this and needs to address.<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><a href=
=3D"http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/ccamp-18.pdf">http://www.ietf=
.org/proceedings/82/slides/ccamp-18.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">thx<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhangxian (Xian) [<a href=3D"mailto:zhang.xian@huawei=
.com">mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 26, 2015 5:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.o=
rg</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:black">Hi, Rajan and all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Thank you for your clarification and I =
now fully understand your question. I think you have misunderstood Section =
4.3. of this draft. It was not to describe
 dynamic Max &amp; Min LSP bandwidth but rather the capability/constraint a=
ssociated with an port, which rarely change over time.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:10.5pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Isn=A1=AFt information per priority al=
ready supported? Quoting text from the drafts referred:<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<pre style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-=
size:10.5pt;color:black">=A1=B0</span><span lang=3D"EN" style=3D"font-size:=
8.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">The technology specific part of the WSON IS=
CD may include a variable<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN" style=
=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">&nbsp;&nbsp; number of sub-TL=
Vs called Bandwidth sub-TLVs.</span><span style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-fam=
ily:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=A1=B1</span><span lang=3D"EN" style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;f=
ont-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN" style=
=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">As for the Mix and Max LSP bandwidth, c=
ould you give me an example of what you said below, i.e.,=A1=B0Availability=
 of&nbsp; =A1=AEN=A1=AF consecutive labels doesn=A1=AFt mean you
 can setup an LSP with a size of =A1=AEN=A1=AF=A1=B1? <o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;What does the WG think of the issue under discus=
sion?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Xian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailt=
o:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=
=CC=E5">=C4=EA</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2</span><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D4=C2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">27</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=C8=
=D5</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 4:03<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp=
@ietf.org</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Xian,<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">I under=
stand this doc is trying to reuse
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">GEN-EN=
CODE &amp; there is support for priority. &nbsp;I am not referring to this =
one. &nbsp;The Min Width &amp; Max &nbsp;Width fields do exist in the draft=
 but these alone are not sufficient. We need info per priority
 for the following reason.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">The intent of Min &amp; Max width info is to specify what is the =
Minimum/Maximum LSP bandwidth an LSP could reserve at a given priority =A1=
=AEp=A1=AF on the link.&nbsp; You can draw parallel to =A1=AEMinimum
 LSP Bandwidth=A1=AF &amp; =A1=AEMaximum LSP Bandwidth=A1=AF fields in RFC =
4202.&nbsp; &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">I don=A1=AFt understand how you can derive this from label set fi=
eld.&nbsp; &nbsp;Availability of&nbsp; =A1=AEN=A1=AF consecutive labels doe=
sn=A1=AFt mean you can setup an LSP with a size of =A1=AEN=A1=AF.&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Thx<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Rajan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhangxian (Xian) [<a href=3D"mailto:zhang.xian@huawei=
.com">mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 25, 2015 5:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.o=
rg</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Hi, Rajan,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; As I was not involved earlier, I find the foll=
owing may be &nbsp;a bit long for others in the WG to get involved. &nbsp;B=
efore I dive into the discussion and share my thoughts, am I accurate
 if I recap the question as:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:5.25pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp; You think the existing =
text in draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01 do not support the follo=
wing:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:23.25pt;text-indent:-18.=
0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Do not support priority;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:23.25pt;text-indent:-18.=
0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Do not convey the min &amp; max LSP bandwidth information=
 in the SCSI field;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Could you confirm my interpretation of your issue?<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">The following is my thoughts ( subject to change if the question =
I recapped above is not as exact as what you want to say):<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">The&nbsp; current method is to reuse what has already been propos=
ed for WSON. So it reuses the SCSI field defined in WSON-OSPF draft (<a hre=
f=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility=
-ospf-15#section-3.1">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-sig=
nal-compatibility-ospf-15#section-3.1</a>).
 So, it DOES support priority (see the details are in [GEN-ENCODE] draft-ie=
tf-ccamp-general-constraint-encode-20). Exactly because of the same reason,=
 the draft under discussion uses label set field to describe what frequency=
 slots are available. So, although
 it allows for all different varieties supported by [GEN-ENCODE] (i.e., lis=
t, bitmap, inclusive, exclusive etc.), the method does not see the need of =
specify the max&amp;min LSP bandwidth since it can be naturally deduced fro=
m the available frequency spectrum information
 conveyed. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">The above discussion actually reminds me of a question Ramon rais=
ed up a while ago among the authors of this draft, what has been defined in=
 WSON-OSPF is truly usable labels in signaling.
 But with Flexi-grid, it is not true anymore. For example, although we use =
Inclusive Label Range to describe available frequency range, say the exampl=
e in Section 4.4 of &nbsp;draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01 (assum=
e m=3D1), none of these labels are directly
 usable if what is actually requested is a bandwidth with m=3D2. &nbsp;I my=
self do not see any issue as long as we make it clear we use the format jus=
t to describe what resource available NOT usable labels. Since it is a WG d=
raft, it is worthwhile to solicit what
 you think?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Cheers,<br>
Xian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailt=
o:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=
=CC=E5">=C4=EA</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2</span><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D4=C2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">26</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=C8=
=D5</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 7:17<br>
<b>To:</b> Daniele Ceccarelli; Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang; CCAMP (<a href=3D=
"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a>)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Ramon Case=
llas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Actio=
n: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Daniele=
,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Sure.&n=
bsp; Added WG in the list for comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan&n=
bsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Daniele Ceccarelli [<a href=3D"mailto:daniele.ceccare=
lli@ericsson.com">mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Ramon Case=
llas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Actio=
n: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Hi all,=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">This is=
 a really interesting discussion and since we=A1=AFre speaking about a work=
ing group draft I think we should continue con the mailing list.<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Please =
include the WG in your reply.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">BR<br>
Daniele<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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4.0pt">
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailt=
o:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> mercoled=A8=AC 25 febbraio 2015 19:56<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Daniele Ce=
ccarelli; Ramon Casellas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Actio=
n: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Haomian=
,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">The pri=
ority in each layer is independent. &nbsp;The intent of explicitly carrying=
 priority info in the advertisement is to allow for LSP creation at differe=
nt priorities.&nbsp; Note that priority defined
 in OTN RFC don=A1=AFt apply here as it is a different layer. &nbsp;&nbsp;Y=
ou can have L0-LSP setup at priority-1 but L1-Telink (OTN link) formed out =
of this may advertise all 8 or subset of them. &nbsp;It is an implementatio=
n choice.&nbsp; I don=A1=AFt see any conflicts here.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Once we=
 agree on the following items we can figure out TLV encoding options.<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><span sty=
le=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&qu=
ot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"=
>Allow for Advertisement of Min &amp; Max slot widths at different prioriti=
es =A8C up to 8<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><span sty=
le=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&qu=
ot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"=
>Min/Max slot width field =A8C 16 bit instead of 8&nbsp; (I see you are agr=
eeing to this change below)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><span sty=
le=3D"mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&qu=
ot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"=
>Max LSP Bandwidth =A8C this was debated in previous meetings but no firm c=
onclusion.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&=
nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhenghaomian [<a href=3D"mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.c=
om">mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 24, 2015 11:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Daniele Ce=
ccarelli; Ramon Casellas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<br>
<b>Subject:</b> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=
=CC=E5">=B4=F0=B8=B4</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: [CCAMP]
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D7=AA=B7=
=A2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexibl=
e-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Hi, Rajan,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Thanks for the information, I noticed there is a change talking a=
bout extending Flexi-grid data plan to satisfy requirements in RFC4202. I f=
orward this email to all the authors of
 OSPF draft to advertise your comments</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"=
font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"> &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Firstly let=A1=AFs recall the sub-TLV format in draft-dhillon-cca=
mp-flexgrid-ospfte-ext as follow:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;
<a name=3D"section-0">0</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;3<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 =
2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-=
&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#4=
3;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-=
&#43;-&#43;-&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Type=3D1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Length&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-------------------------=
--------------------------------------&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |Slice Spacing | Pri |&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Reserved&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-------------------------=
--------------------------------------&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; N-Start&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Num of Slices&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-------------------------=
--------------------------------------&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Min Slot Width&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Max Slot Width&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-------------------------=
--------------------------------------&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; | &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;Bit-Map showing Available Slices&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (up to 48 bytes)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-=
&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#4=
3;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-=
&#43;-&#43;-&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Then I share my understanding on your concern. Compared with sub-=
TLV in section 4.3 of draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01, I highlig=
ht the difference as follow:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">In your proposal,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Slice Spacing is preferred to be carried in the &nbsp;sub=
-TLV;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Priority bits are preferred to be included in sub-TLV;<o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">3)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Min/Max Widths should both be 16-bit;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">4)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">N-start and Num of Slices to represent the spectrum rathe=
r than C.F.G and S.W.G;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Below please find my comments:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Firstly I believe both of your structure and the current structur=
e in WG draft are satisfying the requirement of flexi-grid FWK draft (the i=
nfo model in Fig. 17). We only need to
 deal with some differences in representation format, and some additional i=
nformation may be useful.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Different slice spacing is applicable but may not be nece=
ssary; the spirit to introduce flexible grid is to allow flexibility in spe=
ctrum allocation and current WG draft
 can satisfy the requirement. Not much further advantage for using slice sp=
acing;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Priority bits: I agree that it is widely used, I am basic=
ally fine to include priority bits in the sub-TLV. My only concern is, ther=
e are also such priority information
 in other place (for example OTN BW sub-TLV in Section 4.1.3 in RFC7138), d=
o we need to repeat here? What is the relationship if we have two prioritie=
s? Is it possible the OTN priority is not consistent with flexi-grid priori=
ty? Why? And How to deal with this?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">3)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Agreed, will change both the min/max widths to 16-bit in =
the next version;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">4)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Personally I don=A1=AFt think it=A1=AFs necessary to chan=
ge the current WG draft: I think your proposed representation can have equi=
valent result as the one in current WG draft;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Rajan, please correct me if there is misunderstanding, also let m=
e know if you have other comments.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">All, please feel free to comments, or we move to the list if nece=
ssary</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Wing=
dings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt=
;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Haomian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=
=CE=CC=E5">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5"> Rajan R=
ao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
</span><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=B7=A2=
=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></span></b><span lang=3D"EN-=
US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5"> 2015</span><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=C4=EA<span lang=3D"EN-U=
S">2</span>=D4=C2<span lang=3D"EN-US">24</span>=C8=D5<span lang=3D"EN-US">
 4:03<br>
</span><b>=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></b><span lang=3D"=
EN-US"> Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<br>
</span><b>=B3=AD=CB=CD<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain<br>
</span><b>=D6=F7=CC=E2<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
> RE: [CCAMP] </span>
=D7=AA=B7=A2<span lang=3D"EN-US">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-gr=
id-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Haomian=
,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">The Fle=
xgrid FWK doc has been updated with reference to RFC4202. &nbsp;&nbsp;This =
should address the comment you had in the earlier email.&nbsp; Pl refer to =
updated doc (attached email from Ramon). &nbsp;Pl let us know
 how you would like to proceed. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">FWK doc=
 Snip below:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">5.1.2.&nbsp; Routing<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; The routing protoc=
ol will support all functions as described in<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; [RFC4202] and exte=
nd them to a flexi-grid data plane.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 03, 2015 2:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Actio=
n: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Haom=
ian,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx =
for the reply. Pl see below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">-----Original Message-----<b=
r>
From: Zhenghaomian [<a href=3D"mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com">mailto:zheng=
haomian@huawei.com</a>]
<br>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 11:22 PM<br>
To: Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang<br>
Cc: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain<br>
Subject: </span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=B4=F0=B8=
=B4</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: [CCAMP]
</span><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Hi, Rajan,<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Firstly sorry for the very l=
ate response.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">For your first concern, I se=
e some difference in TLVs about priority issue (Table I in your draft). I t=
hink I understand your description but I didn't find very much advantage to=
 include such 'scalable' settings.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black"><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">RR&g=
t;&gt; Priority based advertisement is pretty standard mechanism used in al=
l existing RFCs.&nbsp; For e.g. you can find these in WSON, OTN&nbsp; docs =
and any other Te-extensions draft.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Another concern from me is, =
for the flexi-grid literature, there are more than one WG draft, I think it=
's better to consider such case in fwk draft, and after that the OSPF one c=
an revise accordingly. P.S, I don't
 know whether this topic was discussed on the list before (perhaps there ar=
e some conclusions, let me know). If not, I would like to suggest move to t=
he list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">RR&g=
t;&gt; I looked at framework.&nbsp; Yes, it doesn=A1=AFt talk about priorit=
y based advertisement.&nbsp; Thanks for pointing this out. Good catch. We w=
ill provide this comment to FWK authors &amp; CC you.&nbsp; I do not
 see any issue updating the fwk doc with this detail. &nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">For your second concern on M=
ax LSP Bandwidth, my understanding is you are trying to use the description=
 in section 3.2 of your draft to replace the one in section 4.3 of current =
WG draft. Is this true? I believe the
 description in your draft is clear and correct. BTW, I noticed bit differe=
nce in Min Bandwidth (16 bits allocated in your draft and 8 bit in current =
WG draft), hopefully this will not be a big issue (8 bit support a bandwidt=
h up to 3200GHz, which is absolutely
 more than the normal requirement for a minimal BW).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">RR&g=
t;&gt; &nbsp;Yes, I was referring to section 3.2 in our draft.&nbsp; &nbsp;=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">We w=
ent with 16-bit fields for Min &amp; Max fields as the values for these fie=
lds range from 0 =A8C 384.&nbsp; We tried to address the case of using full=
 spectrum BW as one LSP.&nbsp; This is an extreme case
 but can=A1=AFt be ruled out.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Pl l=
et me know if you have any other comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Haomian<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">-----</span><span style=3D"f=
ont-family:MingLiU">=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">---=
--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=B7=A2=BC=FE=
=C8=CB</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infin=
era.com"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:rrao@=
infinera.com</span></a>]
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=B7=A2=CB=CD=
=CA=B1=BC=E4</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: 2014</span><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C4=EA</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">12</span><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=D4=C2</span><span lang=3D"EN=
-US">18</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C8=D5</spa=
n><span lang=3D"EN-US">
 6:09<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"=
>=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"=
>=B3=AD=CB=CD</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussa=
in<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"=
>=D6=F7</span><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=CC=E2</span><span lang=
=3D"EN-US">: RE: [CCAMP]
</span><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Haomian,<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">As I had mentioned we are no=
 longer pushing for SuperChannel in the draft.&nbsp; So, this should make i=
t easier to merge the docs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">In my view there are couple =
of areas your draft doesn't address which can be taken from our draft:<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">1.&nbsp; You have separated =
Max &amp; Min Slot width in Port Label restriction sub-TLV.&nbsp; This is O=
.K. But this doesn't allow for priority based Min/Max usage.&nbsp;&nbsp; Ou=
r draft allows for this flexibility which can be used.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">2.&nbsp; Max LSP Bandwidth f=
ield definition can be taken from our doc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The priority handling can be=
 further simplified by merging slice info &amp; Min/Max fields in to a sing=
le sub-TLV if other authors agree.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Pl let me know.<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thx<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Rajan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">-----Original Message-----<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">From: Zhenghaomian [<a href=
=3D"mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-de=
coration:none">mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com</span></a>]
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Sent: Tuesday, December 16, =
2014 5:15 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">To: Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Cc: Khuzema Pithewan<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Subject: </span><span style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=B4=F0=B8=B4</span><span lang=3D"EN-=
US">: [CCAMP]
</span><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Hi, Rajan and Khuzema,<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks for reminding. Do you=
 guys have any suggestion on how to merge? Even if we think the current dra=
ft is self-contained, we are still open on this.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I know there are some differ=
ent ideas from Infinera, but sorry I am not fully understand every detail. =
Please let me know the exact section that need to be updated and let's see =
how to proceed. Again, this will finally
 be determined by the WG since already adopted. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Haomian<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">-----</span><span style=3D"f=
ont-family:MingLiU">=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">---=
--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=B7=A2=BC=FE=
=C8=CB</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infin=
era.com"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:rrao@=
infinera.com</span></a>]
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=B7=A2=CB=CD=
=CA=B1=BC=E4</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: 2014</span><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C4=EA</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">12</span><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=D4=C2</span><span lang=3D"EN=
-US">17</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C8=D5</spa=
n><span lang=3D"EN-US">
 6:01<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"=
>=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"=
>=B3=AD=CB=CD</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: Khuzema Pithewan<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"=
>=D6=F7</span><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=CC=E2</span><span lang=
=3D"EN-US">: RE: [CCAMP]
</span><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Haomian,<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">We had sent couple of emails=
 asking about merging the contents with our draft.&nbsp; Do you see an oppo=
rtunity or any issues with the merge?&nbsp; Can you pl respond on how you w=
ould like to proceed? Pl see the attached email
 we had sent a while back.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Rajan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">-----Original Message-----<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">From: CCAMP [<a href=3D"mail=
to:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:=
none">mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</span></a>] On Behalf Of Zhenghaomian<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Sent: Tuesday, December 16, =
2014 12:24 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">To: <a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@=
ietf.org"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">ccamp@ietf.=
org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Subject: [CCAMP] </span><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: I=
-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Dear CCAMPers,<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">We upload an updated version=
 to reactivate the following draft against expiration, together updating th=
e Max width issue proposed in previous discussions. Your comments are highl=
y welcomed, thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Haomian on behalf of authors=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">-----</span><span style=3D"f=
ont-family:MingLiU">=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">---=
--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=B7=A2=BC=FE=
=C8=CB</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: CCAMP [<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounces@=
ietf.org"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:ccam=
p-bounces@ietf.org</span></a>]
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=B4=FA=B1=ED</span=
> <span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org"><span st=
yle=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">internet-drafts@ietf.org</spa=
n></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">No, I'm not aware of any IPR th=
at applies to this draft.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Xian</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
 style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniele Ceccarelli<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun"=
>=C4=EA</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2</span><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=D4=C2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">24</span>=
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=C8=D5</span><span lang=
=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;">
 20:59<br>
<b>To:</b> draft-ietf-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk@tools.ietf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [CCAMP] IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk-03<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Authors, Contributors, CCAMP=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">As part of the preparation f=
or WG Last Call:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Are you aware of any IPR tha=
t applies to draft identified above?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Please state either:<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&quot;No, I'm not aware of a=
ny IPR that applies to this draft&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">or<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&quot;Yes, I'm aware of IPR =
that applies to this draft&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">If so, has this IPR been dis=
closed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 537=
8 for more details)?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">If yes to the above, please =
state either:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&quot;Yes, the IPR has been =
disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">or<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&quot;No, the IPR has not be=
en disclosed&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">If you answer no, please pro=
vide any additional details you think appropriate. If you are listed as a d=
ocument author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this=
 email regardless of whether or not
 you are aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the n=
ext stage until a response has been received from each author and listed co=
ntributor.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF=
 YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">If you are on the CCAMP WG e=
mail list but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of =
your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify th=
e IETF if you are aware of IPR of others
 on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribut=
ion or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">information, please see the =
RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/Intel=
lectualProperty.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Daniele &amp; Fatai<o:p></o:=
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Hi,
=20
[Speaking as a regular contributor which, praise be, I will in just =
three weeks'
time. Not that I'm counting...]
=20
There is some up-levelling to be done here.
=20
Rajan seems to be proposing a new concept that would allow us to =
advertise not
just the bandwidth available at each priority (per 4202) but also to =
vary the
constraints on allocation per priority. This would allow us to say that =
priority
x LSPs can only use chunks of bandwidth between sizes a and b, while =
priority y
LSPs can only chunks of bandwidth between sizes c and d.
=20
I have three questions:
- Is this a valid thing to want to do in any technology?
- Is it something we want to do in Flexigrid?
- Is it something that should be generalised?
=20
Thanks,
Adrian
=20
From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Zhangxian =
(Xian)
Sent: 03 March 2015 07:22
To: Rajan Rao; CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org); 'Ramon Casellas'
Cc: Iftekhar Hussain
Subject: Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt
=20
Hi, Rajan,=20
=20
From: Rajan Rao [mailto:rrao@infinera.com]=20
Sent: 2015=C4=EA3=D4=C23=C8=D5 8:56
To: Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org); 'Ramon Casellas'
Cc: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu
Subject: RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt
=20
Xian,
=20
Minimum LSP bandwidth will address technological advances. For e.g. =
tomorrow=A1=AFs
6.25GHz  instead of today=A1=AFs 12.5GHz. GMPLS extensions should cover =
the case of
network having a mix of different hardware capabilities.=20
[Xian]: I agree with the above statements. But they are a property of an
interface, which AFAIC does not change over time. That=A1=AFs why I said =
it have
already be covered by Section 4.3 (please take a look if any information =
is
missing as well).  ISCD, especially SCSI is used to advertise the =
available
bandwidth information and it is changing dynamically. So, I do not think =
SCSI is
the right place to do so.
=20
Advertising per priority aligns with RFC4202.  I don=A1=AFt see any =
issues.
[Xian] I have to disagree.   RFC4202 does not support advertising min =
LSP
bandwidth per priority. Please take a look at the encoding of Section =
1.4. of
RFC4203. What=A1=AFs said there: for PSC and TDM, you carry ONE minimum =
LSP
bandwidth information (which is not associated per priority); for Lambda
switching, it does not have any SCSI at all.=20
=20
Having said all these, I personally do not think the value of =
advertising min
LSP bandwidth per priority. If you disagree again, could you give me an =
usage
example? =20
=20
As far as Maximum LSP bandwidth goes, either option would work but my =
preference
would be to put it in technology specific part (SCSI).
[Xian]: point taken. I agree with you that both work but I would prefer =
to take
Option 1. Let=A1=AFs get a bit more feedback from the WG before updating =
the draft.
=20
Regards,
Xian
=20
Thx
Rajan
=20
From: Zhangxian (Xian) [mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com]=20
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:35 PM
To: Rajan Rao; CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org); 'Ramon Casellas'
Cc: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu
Subject: RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt
=20
Hi, Rajan, all,=20
=20
      =A1=B0Min & Max slot=A1=B1 you mentioned below is a bit =
mis-leading. I think you
wanted to say =A1=B0Min & Max LSP bandwidth=A1=B1. Let talk them one by =
one since we are
not aligned yet on both.=20
     =20
      Why do we need to advertise Min LSP bandwidth per priority in =
ISCD, e.g.,
a request cannot set up a LSP smaller than X GHz and it varies per =
priority? If
you  meant to say the interface limitation, it is covered in Section 4.3
already. =20
=20
      As for the Max LSP bandwidth information, I agree with you that =
RFC4204
has this requirement. This draft =
(draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01)
needs to be updated to reflect this. I can think of two options:=20
=20
Option A: use the existing fields (MAX LSP Bandwidth at priority x, =
x=3D0-7)  in
the ISCD (defined in Section 1.4. of RFC4203). The point that we need to =
update
is the unit to be usable in the context of Flexi-grid. It will be Hz not =
byte
per second.
=20
Option B: We add the max LSP bandwidth field (16 bit) in the Available =
Labels
Field by using the Reserved field. =20
=20
    Which option does the WG prefer?
=20
Regards,
Xian
=20
From: Rajan Rao [mailto:rrao@infinera.com]=20
Sent: 2015=C4=EA2=D4=C228=C8=D5 2:51
To: Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org); 'Ramon Casellas'
Cc: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu
Subject: RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt
=20
Xian, all
=20
Section 4.3 is trying to use port label restrictions sub-TLV with a new
restriction type.  This is fine.  But how does a path computing node =
determine
if it can use the link to setup an LSP with N-slots @ priority =
=A1=AEp=A1=AF?   For e.g
I don=A1=AFt want to allow priority 7 LSPs to use bandwidth greater than =
20 slots on
the link but allow for LSPs with priority 0, 1 & 2.  Where is this info =
in the
TLV?
=20
We had given examples when we presented our draft in Taipei IETF-82.  =
Ref slides
8 & 10 (link below).  We had coverage for advertisement of  Min & Max =
slot
widths per priority. This is meant to align with RFC 4202.  I believe WG =
doc
lacks this and needs to address.
http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/ccamp-18.pdf
=20
thx
Rajan
From: Zhangxian (Xian) [mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com]=20
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 5:33 PM
To: Rajan Rao; CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org); 'Ramon Casellas'
Cc: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu
Subject: RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt
=20
Hi, Rajan and all,
=20
Thank you for your clarification and I now fully understand your =
question. I
think you have misunderstood Section 4.3. of this draft. It was not to =
describe
dynamic Max & Min LSP bandwidth but rather the capability/constraint =
associated
with an port, which rarely change over time.
=20
Isn=A1=AFt information per priority already supported? Quoting text from =
the drafts
referred:
=20
=A1=B0The technology specific part of the WSON ISCD may include a =
variable
   number of sub-TLVs called Bandwidth sub-TLVs.=A1=B1
=20
As for the Mix and Max LSP bandwidth, could you give me an example of =
what you
said below, i.e.,=A1=B0Availability of  =A1=AEN=A1=AF consecutive labels =
doesn=A1=AFt mean you
can setup an LSP with a size of =A1=AEN=A1=AF=A1=B1?=20
=20
    What does the WG think of the issue under discussion?
=20
Regards,
Xian
=20
=20
From: Rajan Rao [mailto:rrao@infinera.com]=20
Sent: 2015=C4=EA2=D4=C227=C8=D5 4:03
To: Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org); 'Ramon Casellas'
Cc: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu
Subject: RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt
=20
Xian,
=20
I understand this doc is trying to reuse GEN-ENCODE & there is support =
for
priority.  I am not referring to this one.  The Min Width & Max  Width =
fields do
exist in the draft but these alone are not sufficient. We need info per =
priority
for the following reason.
=20
The intent of Min & Max width info is to specify what is the =
Minimum/Maximum LSP
bandwidth an LSP could reserve at a given priority =A1=AEp=A1=AF on the =
link.  You can
draw parallel to =A1=AEMinimum LSP Bandwidth=A1=AF & =A1=AEMaximum LSP =
Bandwidth=A1=AF fields in
RFC 4202.  =20
=20
I don=A1=AFt understand how you can derive this from label set field.   =
Availability
of  =A1=AEN=A1=AF consecutive labels doesn=A1=AFt mean you can setup an =
LSP with a size of
=A1=AEN=A1=AF. =20
=20
Thx
Rajan
=20
=20
From: Zhangxian (Xian) [mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com]=20
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 5:37 PM
To: Rajan Rao; CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org); 'Ramon Casellas'
Subject: RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt
=20
Hi, Rajan,
=20
    As I was not involved earlier, I find the following may be  a bit =
long for
others in the WG to get involved.  Before I dive into the discussion and =
share
my thoughts, am I accurate if I recap the question as:
=20
   You think the existing text in =
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01 do
not support the following:=20
1)       Do not support priority;=20
2)       Do not convey the min & max LSP bandwidth information in the =
SCSI
field;=20
=20
Could you confirm my interpretation of your issue?
=20
The following is my thoughts ( subject to change if the question I =
recapped
above is not as exact as what you want to say):
=20
The  current method is to reuse what has already been proposed for WSON. =
So it
reuses the SCSI field defined in WSON-OSPF draft
(https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility-o=
spf-15#
section-3.1). So, it DOES support priority (see the details are in =
[GEN-ENCODE]
draft-ietf-ccamp-general-constraint-encode-20). Exactly because of the =
same
reason, the draft under discussion uses label set field to describe what
frequency slots are available. So, although it allows for all different
varieties supported by [GEN-ENCODE] (i.e., list, bitmap, inclusive, =
exclusive
etc.), the method does not see the need of specify the max&min LSP =
bandwidth
since it can be naturally deduced from the available frequency spectrum
information conveyed. =20
=20
The above discussion actually reminds me of a question Ramon raised up a =
while
ago among the authors of this draft, what has been defined in WSON-OSPF =
is truly
usable labels in signaling. But with Flexi-grid, it is not true anymore. =
For
example, although we use Inclusive Label Range to describe available =
frequency
range, say the example in Section 4.4 of
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01 (assume m=3D1), none of these =
labels
are directly usable if what is actually requested is a bandwidth with =
m=3D2.  I
myself do not see any issue as long as we make it clear we use the =
format just
to describe what resource available NOT usable labels. Since it is a WG =
draft,
it is worthwhile to solicit what you think?
=20
Cheers,
Xian
=20
From: Rajan Rao [mailto:rrao@infinera.com]=20
Sent: 2015=C4=EA2=D4=C226=C8=D5 7:17
To: Daniele Ceccarelli; Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang; CCAMP =
(ccamp@ietf.org)
Cc: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Ramon =
Casellas; Oscar
Gonzalez de Dios
Subject: RE: [CCAMP] =D7=AA=B7=A2: I-D Action:
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt
=20
Daniele,
=20
Sure.  Added WG in the list for comments.
=20
Thx
Rajan =20
=20
From: Daniele Ceccarelli [mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com]=20
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:45 PM
To: Rajan Rao; Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang
Cc: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Ramon =
Casellas; Oscar
Gonzalez de Dios
Subject: RE: [CCAMP] =D7=AA=B7=A2: I-D Action:
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt
=20
Hi all,
=20
This is a really interesting discussion and since we=A1=AFre speaking =
about a
working group draft I think we should continue con the mailing list.
Please include the WG in your reply.
=20
BR
Daniele
=20
From: Rajan Rao [mailto:rrao@infinera.com]=20
Sent: mercoled=A8=AC 25 febbraio 2015 19:56
To: Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang
Cc: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Daniele =
Ceccarelli;
Ramon Casellas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios
Subject: RE: [CCAMP] =D7=AA=B7=A2: I-D Action:
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt
=20
Haomian,
=20
The priority in each layer is independent.  The intent of explicitly =
carrying
priority info in the advertisement is to allow for LSP creation at =
different
priorities.  Note that priority defined in OTN RFC don=A1=AFt apply here =
as it is a
different layer.   You can have L0-LSP setup at priority-1 but L1-Telink =
(OTN
link) formed out of this may advertise all 8 or subset of them.  It is =
an
implementation choice.  I don=A1=AFt see any conflicts here.
=20
Once we agree on the following items we can figure out TLV encoding =
options.
=20
1.       Allow for Advertisement of Min & Max slot widths at different
priorities =A8C up to 8
2.       Min/Max slot width field =A8C 16 bit instead of 8  (I see you =
are
agreeing to this change below)
3.       Max LSP Bandwidth =A8C this was debated in previous meetings =
but no firm
conclusion.=20
 =20
Thx
Rajan
=20
From: Zhenghaomian [mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com]=20
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 11:35 PM
To: Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang
Cc: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Daniele =
Ceccarelli;
Ramon Casellas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios
Subject: =B4=F0=B8=B4: [CCAMP] =D7=AA=B7=A2: I-D Action:
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt
=20
Hi, Rajan,
=20
Thanks for the information, I noticed there is a change talking about =
extending
Flexi-grid data plan to satisfy requirements in RFC4202. I forward this =
email to
all the authors of OSPF draft to advertise your commentsJ =20
=20
Firstly let=A1=AFs recall the sub-TLV format in
draft-dhillon-ccamp-flexgrid-ospfte-ext as follow:=20
=20
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    0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
   |             Type=3D1            |              Length           |
   +---------------------------------------------------------------+
   |Slice Spacing | Pri |                    Reserved              |
   +---------------------------------------------------------------+
   |               N-Start         |          Num of Slices        |
   +---------------------------------------------------------------+
   |         Min Slot Width        |       Max Slot Width          |
   +---------------------------------------------------------------+
   |                                                               |
   |                   Bit-Map showing Available Slices           |
   |                     (up to 48 bytes)                          |
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=20
Then I share my understanding on your concern. Compared with sub-TLV in =
section
4.3 of draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01, I highlight the =
difference as
follow:=20
=20
In your proposal,=20
1)       Slice Spacing is preferred to be carried in the  sub-TLV;=20
2)       Priority bits are preferred to be included in sub-TLV;
3)       Min/Max Widths should both be 16-bit;=20
4)       N-start and Num of Slices to represent the spectrum rather than =
C.F.G
and S.W.G;=20
=20
Below please find my comments:=20
Firstly I believe both of your structure and the current structure in WG =
draft
are satisfying the requirement of flexi-grid FWK draft (the info model =
in Fig.
17). We only need to deal with some differences in representation =
format, and
some additional information may be useful.=20
=20
1)       Different slice spacing is applicable but may not be necessary; =
the
spirit to introduce flexible grid is to allow flexibility in spectrum =
allocation
and current WG draft can satisfy the requirement. Not much further =
advantage for
using slice spacing;=20
2)       Priority bits: I agree that it is widely used, I am basically =
fine to
include priority bits in the sub-TLV. My only concern is, there are also =
such
priority information in other place (for example OTN BW sub-TLV in =
Section 4.1.3
in RFC7138), do we need to repeat here? What is the relationship if we =
have two
priorities? Is it possible the OTN priority is not consistent with =
flexi-grid
priority? Why? And How to deal with this?
3)       Agreed, will change both the min/max widths to 16-bit in the =
next
version;=20
4)       Personally I don=A1=AFt think it=A1=AFs necessary to change the =
current WG
draft: I think your proposed representation can have equivalent result =
as the
one in current WG draft;
=20
Rajan, please correct me if there is misunderstanding, also let me know =
if you
have other comments.=20
=20
All, please feel free to comments, or we move to the list if necessaryJ
=20
Best wishes,
Haomian
=20
=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Rajan Rao [mailto:rrao@infinera.com]=20
=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2015=C4=EA2=D4=C224=C8=D5 4:03
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang
=B3=AD=CB=CD: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain
=D6=F7=CC=E2: RE: [CCAMP] =D7=AA=B7=A2: I-D Action:
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt
=20
Haomian,
=20
The Flexgrid FWK doc has been updated with reference to RFC4202.   This =
should
address the comment you had in the earlier email.  Pl refer to updated =
doc
(attached email from Ramon).  Pl let us know how you would like to =
proceed.=20
=20
FWK doc Snip below:
=20
5.1.2.  Routing
=20
   The routing protocol will support all functions as described in
   [RFC4202] and extend them to a flexi-grid data plane.
=20
Thx
Rajan
=20
From: Rajan Rao=20
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 2:28 PM
To: Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang
Cc: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain
Subject: RE: [CCAMP] =D7=AA=B7=A2: I-D Action:
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt
=20
Haomian,
=20
Thx for the reply. Pl see below.
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Zhenghaomian [mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com]=20
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 11:22 PM
To: Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang
Cc: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain
Subject: =B4=F0=B8=B4: [CCAMP] =D7=AA=B7=A2: I-D Action:
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt
=20
Hi, Rajan,
=20
Firstly sorry for the very late response.
=20
For your first concern, I see some difference in TLVs about priority =
issue
(Table I in your draft). I think I understand your description but I =
didn't find
very much advantage to include such 'scalable' settings.=20
=20
RR>> Priority based advertisement is pretty standard mechanism used in =
all
existing RFCs.  For e.g. you can find these in WSON, OTN  docs and any =
other
Te-extensions draft.=20
=20
Another concern from me is, for the flexi-grid literature, there are =
more than
one WG draft, I think it's better to consider such case in fwk draft, =
and after
that the OSPF one can revise accordingly. P.S, I don't know whether this =
topic
was discussed on the list before (perhaps there are some conclusions, =
let me
know). If not, I would like to suggest move to the list.
=20
RR>> I looked at framework.  Yes, it doesn=A1=AFt talk about priority =
based
advertisement.  Thanks for pointing this out. Good catch. We will =
provide this
comment to FWK authors & CC you.  I do not see any issue updating the =
fwk doc
with this detail.  =20
=20
For your second concern on Max LSP Bandwidth, my understanding is you =
are trying
to use the description in section 3.2 of your draft to replace the one =
in
section 4.3 of current WG draft. Is this true? I believe the description =
in your
draft is clear and correct. BTW, I noticed bit difference in Min =
Bandwidth (16
bits allocated in your draft and 8 bit in current WG draft), hopefully =
this will
not be a big issue (8 bit support a bandwidth up to 3200GHz, which is =
absolutely
more than the normal requirement for a minimal BW).
=20
RR>>  Yes, I was referring to section 3.2 in our draft.  =20
We went with 16-bit fields for Min & Max fields as the values for these =
fields
range from 0 =A8C 384.  We tried to address the case of using full =
spectrum BW as
one LSP.  This is an extreme case but can=A1=AFt be ruled out.
=20
Pl let me know if you have any other comments.
Thanks.
=20
Best wishes,
Haomian
=20
-----=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE-----
=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Rajan Rao [ <mailto:rrao@infinera.com> =
mailto:rrao@infinera.com]=20
=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2014=C4=EA12=D4=C218=C8=D5 6:09
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang
=B3=AD=CB=CD: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain
=D6=F7=CC=E2: RE: [CCAMP] =D7=AA=B7=A2: I-D Action:
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt
=20
Haomian,
=20
As I had mentioned we are no longer pushing for SuperChannel in the =
draft.  So,
this should make it easier to merge the docs.
=20
In my view there are couple of areas your draft doesn't address which =
can be
taken from our draft:
=20
1.  You have separated Max & Min Slot width in Port Label restriction =
sub-TLV.
This is O.K. But this doesn't allow for priority based Min/Max usage.   =
Our
draft allows for this flexibility which can be used.
2.  Max LSP Bandwidth field definition can be taken from our doc.
=20
The priority handling can be further simplified by merging slice info & =
Min/Max
fields in to a single sub-TLV if other authors agree.
=20
Pl let me know.
=20
Thx
Rajan
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Zhenghaomian [ <mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com>
mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com]=20
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 5:15 PM
To: Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang
Cc: Khuzema Pithewan
Subject: =B4=F0=B8=B4: [CCAMP] =D7=AA=B7=A2: I-D Action:
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt
=20
Hi, Rajan and Khuzema,
=20
Thanks for reminding. Do you guys have any suggestion on how to merge? =
Even if
we think the current draft is self-contained, we are still open on this. =

=20
I know there are some different ideas from Infinera, but sorry I am not =
fully
understand every detail. Please let me know the exact section that need =
to be
updated and let's see how to proceed. Again, this will finally be =
determined by
the WG since already adopted.=20
=20
Thanks.
=20
Best wishes,
Haomian
=20
-----=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE-----
=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Rajan Rao [ <mailto:rrao@infinera.com> =
mailto:rrao@infinera.com]=20
=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2014=C4=EA12=D4=C217=C8=D5 6:01
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang
=B3=AD=CB=CD: Khuzema Pithewan
=D6=F7=CC=E2: RE: [CCAMP] =D7=AA=B7=A2: I-D Action:
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt
=20
Haomian,
=20
We had sent couple of emails asking about merging the contents with our =
draft.
Do you see an opportunity or any issues with the merge?  Can you pl =
respond on
how you would like to proceed? Pl see the attached email we had sent a =
while
back.
=20
=20
Thanks
Rajan
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: CCAMP [ <mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org> =
mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On
Behalf Of Zhenghaomian
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 12:24 AM
To:  <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: [CCAMP] =D7=AA=B7=A2: I-D Action:
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt
=20
Dear CCAMPers,
=20
We upload an updated version to reactivate the following draft against
expiration, together updating the Max width issue proposed in previous
discussions. Your comments are highly welcomed, thanks.
=20
Best wishes,
Haomian on behalf of authors
=20
-----=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE-----
=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: CCAMP [ <mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org> =
mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org]
=B4=FA=B1=ED  <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org> internet-drafts@ietf.org
=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2014=C4=EA12=D4=C216=C8=D5 16:16
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB:  <mailto:i-d-announce@ietf.org> =
i-d-announce@ietf.org
=B3=AD=CB=CD:  <mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> ccamp@ietf.org
=D6=F7=CC=E2: [CCAMP] I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt
=20
=20
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts =
directories.
This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane =
Working
Group of the IETF.
=20
        Title           : GMPLS OSPF-TE Extensions in support of =
Flexible Grid
        Authors         : Xian Zhang
                          Haomian Zheng
                          Ramon Casellas
                          Oscar Gonzalez de Dios
                          Daniele Ceccarelli
               Filename        : =
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt
               Pages           : 14
               Date            : 2014-12-16
=20
Abstract:
   This memo describes the OSPF-TE extensions in support of GMPLS
   control of networks that include devices that use the new flexible
   optical grid.
=20
=20
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vlink=3Dpurple style=3D'tab-interval:36.0pt'><div =
class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;ms=
o-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;ms=
o-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;ms=
o-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'>[Speaking as a regular contributor which, praise =
be, I will in just three weeks' time. Not that I'm =
counting...]<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;ms=
o-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;ms=
o-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'>There is some up-levelling to be done =
here.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;ms=
o-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;ms=
o-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'>Rajan seems to be proposing a new concept that =
would allow us to advertise not just the bandwidth available at each =
priority (per 4202) but also to vary the constraints on allocation per =
priority. This would allow us to say that priority x LSPs can only use =
chunks of bandwidth between sizes a and b, while priority y LSPs can =
only chunks of bandwidth between sizes c and d.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;ms=
o-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;ms=
o-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'>I have three questions:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;ms=
o-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'>- Is this a valid thing to want to do in any =
technology?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;ms=
o-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'>- Is it something we want to do in =
Flexigrid?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;ms=
o-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'>- Is it something that should be =
generalised?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;ms=
o-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;ms=
o-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;ms=
o-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'>Adrian<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;ms=
o-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
4.0pt'><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'> CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Zhangxian (Xian)<br><b>Sent:</b> 03 March 2015 07:22<br><b>To:</b> =
Rajan Rao; CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org); 'Ramon Casellas'<br><b>Cc:</b> =
Iftekhar Hussain<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div=
></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#632423;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Hi, =
Rajan, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid =
#B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'> Rajan Rao [mailto:rrao@infinera.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> =
2015</span><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>=C4=EA</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'>3</span><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>=D4=C2</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'>3</span><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>=C8=D5</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'> 8:56<br><b>To:</b> Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP =
(ccamp@ietf.org); 'Ramon Casellas'<br><b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; =
Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div=
></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Xian,<o:p></o:p></span></=
p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Minimum LSP bandwidth =
will address technological advances. For e.g. tomorrow=A1=AFs 6.25GHz =
&nbsp;instead of today=A1=AFs 12.5GHz. GMPLS extensions should cover the =
case of network having a mix of different hardware capabilities. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#632423;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>[Xian]: =
I agree with the above statements. But they are a property of an =
interface, which AFAIC does not change over time. That=A1=AFs why I said =
it have already be covered by Section 4.3 (please take a look if any =
information is missing as well). &nbsp;ISCD, especially SCSI is used to =
advertise the available bandwidth information and it is changing =
dynamically. So, I do not think SCSI is the right place to do =
so.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Advertising per priority =
aligns with RFC4202.&nbsp; I don=A1=AFt see any issues.</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#632423;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#632423;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>[Xian] =
I have to disagree.&nbsp; &nbsp;RFC4202 does not support advertising min =
LSP bandwidth per priority. Please take a look at the encoding of =
Section 1.4. of RFC4203. What=A1=AFs said there: for PSC and TDM, you =
carry ONE minimum LSP bandwidth information (which is not associated per =
priority); for Lambda switching, it does not have any SCSI at all. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#632423;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#632423;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Having =
said all these, I personally do not think the value of advertising min =
LSP bandwidth per priority. If you disagree again, could you give me an =
usage example?&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>As far as Maximum LSP =
bandwidth goes, either option would work but my preference would be to =
put it in technology specific part (SCSI).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#632423;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>[Xian]: =
point taken. I agree with you that both work but I would prefer to take =
Option 1. Let=A1=AFs get a bit more feedback from the WG before updating =
the draft.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#632423;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#632423;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Regards,=
<br>Xian<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Thx<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Rajan<o:p></o:p></span></=
p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'> Zhangxian (Xian) [mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com] =
<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> Rajan =
Rao; CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org); 'Ramon Casellas'<br><b>Cc:</b> Khuzema =
Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D =
Action: =
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div=
></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Hi, =
Rajan, all, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;=A1=B0</span><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Min &amp; Max slot=A1=B1 =
you mentioned below is a bit mis-leading. I think you wanted to say =
=A1=B0Min &amp; Max LSP bandwidth=A1=B1. Let talk them one by one since =
we are not aligned yet on both. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;Why do we need to advertise Min LSP bandwidth per priority in =
ISCD, e.g., a request cannot set up a LSP smaller than X GHz and it =
varies per priority? If you&nbsp; meant to say the interface limitation, =
it is covered in Section 4.3 already. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;As for the Max LSP bandwidth information, I agree with you that =
RFC4204 has this requirement. This draft =
(draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01) needs to be updated to =
reflect this. I can think of two options: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Option A: use the =
existing fields (MAX LSP Bandwidth at priority x, x=3D0-7) &nbsp;in the =
ISCD (defined in Section 1.4. of RFC4203). The point that we need to =
update is the unit to be usable in the context of Flexi-grid. It will be =
Hz not byte per second.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Option B: We add the max =
LSP bandwidth field (16 bit) in the Available Labels Field by using the =
Reserved field. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Which =
option does the WG prefer?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Regards,<br>Xian</span><s=
pan lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p></o=
:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid =
#B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'> Rajan Rao [<a =
href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</a>] =
<br><b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>=C4=EA</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'>2</span><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>=D4=C2</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'>28</span><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>=C8=D5</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'> 2:51<br><b>To:</b> Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (<a =
href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a>); 'Ramon =
Casellas'<br><b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao =
Lu<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div=
></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Xian, =
all<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Section 4.3 is trying to =
use port label restrictions sub-TLV with a new restriction type.&nbsp; =
This is fine.&nbsp; But how does a path computing node determine if it =
can use the link to setup an LSP with N-slots @ priority =
=A1=AEp=A1=AF?&nbsp; &nbsp;For e.g&nbsp; I don=A1=AFt want to allow =
priority 7 LSPs to use bandwidth greater than 20 slots on the link but =
allow for LSPs with priority 0, 1 &amp; 2.&nbsp; Where is this info in =
the TLV?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>We had given examples =
when we presented our draft in Taipei IETF-82. &nbsp;Ref slides 8 &amp; =
10 (link below).&nbsp; We had coverage for advertisement of&nbsp; Min =
&amp; Max slot widths per priority. This is meant to align with RFC =
4202.&nbsp; I believe WG doc lacks this and needs to =
address.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><a =
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/ccamp-18.pdf">http://ww=
w.ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/ccamp-18.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p=
 class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>thx<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Rajan<o:p></o:p></span></=
p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'> Zhangxian (Xian) [<a =
href=3D"mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com">mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com</a>] =
<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 26, 2015 5:33 PM<br><b>To:</b> Rajan =
Rao; CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a>); =
'Ramon Casellas'<br><b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao =
Lu<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div=
></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Hi, Rajan =
and all,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp=
;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-indent:9.6pt'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Thank you =
for your clarification and I now fully understand your question. I think =
you have misunderstood Section 4.3. of this draft. It was not to =
describe dynamic Max &amp; Min LSP bandwidth but rather the =
capability/constraint associated with an port, which rarely change over =
time.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'text-indent:9.6pt'><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp=
;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'text-indent:10.5pt'><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Isn=A1=AFt=
 information per priority already supported? Quoting text from the =
drafts referred:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'text-indent:9.6pt'><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp=
;</o:p></span></p><pre style=3D'page-break-before:always'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>=A1=B0</sp=
an><span lang=3DEN =
style=3D'font-size:8.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-ansi-language:EN'>The =
technology specific part of the WSON ISCD may include a =
variable<o:p></o:p></span></pre><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'text-indent:9.6pt'><span lang=3DEN =
style=3D'font-size:8.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-ansi-language:EN'>&nbsp;&=
nbsp; number of sub-TLVs called Bandwidth sub-TLVs.</span><span =
lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:8.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>=A1=B1</span><span =
lang=3DEN =
style=3D'font-size:8.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-ansi-language:EN'><o:p></=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-indent:9.6pt'><span =
lang=3DEN =
style=3D'font-size:8.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-ansi-language:EN'><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'text-indent:9.6pt'><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>As for =
the Mix and Max LSP bandwidth, could you give me an example of what you =
said below, i.e.,=A1=B0Availability of&nbsp; =A1=AEN=A1=AF consecutive =
labels doesn=A1=AFt mean you can setup an LSP with a size of =
=A1=AEN=A1=AF=A1=B1? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'text-indent:9.6pt'><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp=
;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbs=
p; &nbsp;What does the WG think of the issue under =
discussion?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'text-indent:9.6pt'><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'text-indent:9.6pt'><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Regards,<o=
:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'text-indent:9.6pt'><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Xian<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-indent:9.6pt'><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp=
;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid =
#B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'> Rajan Rao [<a =
href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</a>] =
<br><b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>=C4=EA</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'>2</span><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>=D4=C2</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'>27</span><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>=C8=D5</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'> 4:03<br><b>To:</b> Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (<a =
href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a>); 'Ramon =
Casellas'<br><b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao =
Lu<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div=
></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Xian,<o:p></o:p></span></=
p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>I understand this doc is =
trying to reuse </span><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>GEN-ENCO=
DE &amp; there is support for priority. &nbsp;I am not referring to this =
one. &nbsp;The Min Width &amp; Max &nbsp;Width fields do exist in the =
draft but these alone are not sufficient. We need info per priority for =
the following reason.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>The =
intent of Min &amp; Max width info is to specify what is the =
Minimum/Maximum LSP bandwidth an LSP could reserve at a given priority =
=A1=AEp=A1=AF on the link.&nbsp; You can draw parallel to =A1=AEMinimum =
LSP Bandwidth=A1=AF &amp; =A1=AEMaximum LSP Bandwidth=A1=AF fields in =
RFC 4202.&nbsp; &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>I =
don=A1=AFt understand how you can derive this from label set =
field.&nbsp; &nbsp;Availability of&nbsp; =A1=AEN=A1=AF consecutive =
labels doesn=A1=AFt mean you can setup an LSP with a size of =
=A1=AEN=A1=AF.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Thx<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Rajan<o:=
p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'> Zhangxian (Xian) [<a =
href=3D"mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com">mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com</a>] =
<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 25, 2015 5:37 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
Rajan Rao; CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a>); =
'Ramon Casellas'<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div=
></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Hi, =
Rajan,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp; As I was not involved earlier, I find the following may be =
&nbsp;a bit long for others in the WG to get involved. &nbsp;Before I =
dive into the discussion and share my thoughts, am I accurate if I recap =
the question as:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'text-indent:5.25pt'><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;&n=
bsp; You think the existing text in =
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01 do not support the following: =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:23.25pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 =
lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-f=
amily:Calibri;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><span =
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>1)<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Do not =
support priority; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:23.25pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 =
lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-f=
amily:Calibri;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><span =
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>2)<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Do not =
convey the min &amp; max LSP bandwidth information in the SCSI field; =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Could =
you confirm my interpretation of your issue?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>The =
following is my thoughts ( subject to change if the question I recapped =
above is not as exact as what you want to say):<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>The&nbsp=
; current method is to reuse what has already been proposed for WSON. So =
it reuses the SCSI field defined in WSON-OSPF draft (<a =
href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatib=
ility-ospf-15#section-3.1">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-w=
son-signal-compatibility-ospf-15#section-3.1</a>). So, it DOES support =
priority (see the details are in [GEN-ENCODE] =
draft-ietf-ccamp-general-constraint-encode-20). Exactly because of the =
same reason, the draft under discussion uses label set field to describe =
what frequency slots are available. So, although it allows for all =
different varieties supported by [GEN-ENCODE] (i.e., list, bitmap, =
inclusive, exclusive etc.), the method does not see the need of specify =
the max&amp;min LSP bandwidth since it can be naturally deduced from the =
available frequency spectrum information conveyed. =
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>The =
above discussion actually reminds me of a question Ramon raised up a =
while ago among the authors of this draft, what has been defined in =
WSON-OSPF is truly usable labels in signaling. But with Flexi-grid, it =
is not true anymore. For example, although we use Inclusive Label Range =
to describe available frequency range, say the example in Section 4.4 of =
&nbsp;draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01 (assume m=3D1), none of =
these labels are directly usable if what is actually requested is a =
bandwidth with m=3D2. &nbsp;I myself do not see any issue as long as we =
make it clear we use the format just to describe what resource available =
NOT usable labels. Since it is a WG draft, it is worthwhile to solicit =
what you think?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Cheers,<=
br>Xian<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid =
#B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'> Rajan Rao [<a =
href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</a>] =
<br><b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>=C4=EA</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'>2</span><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>=D4=C2</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'>26</span><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>=C8=D5</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'> 7:17<br><b>To:</b> Daniele Ceccarelli; Zhenghaomian; Fatai =
Zhang; CCAMP (<a =
href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a>)<br><b>Cc:</b> Khuzema =
Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Ramon Casellas; Oscar =
Gonzalez de Dios<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span =
lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'>: I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div=
></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Daniele,<o:p></o:p></span=
></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Sure.&nbsp; Added WG in =
the list for comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Thx<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Rajan&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'> Daniele Ceccarelli [<a =
href=3D"mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com">mailto:daniele.ceccarelli=
@ericsson.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:45 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<br><b>Cc:</b> =
Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Ramon Casellas; =
Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span =
lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'>: I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div=
></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Hi =
all,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>This is a really =
interesting discussion and since we=A1=AFre speaking about a working =
group draft I think we should continue con the mailing =
list.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Please include the WG in =
your reply.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>BR<br>Daniele<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><div style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm =
0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'> Rajan Rao [<a =
href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</a>] =
<br><b>Sent:</b> mercoled=A8=AC 25 febbraio 2015 19:56<br><b>To:</b> =
Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<br><b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar =
Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Daniele Ceccarelli; Ramon Casellas; Oscar =
Gonzalez de Dios<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span =
lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'>: I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div=
></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Haomian,<o:p></o:p></span=
></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>The priority in each =
layer is independent. &nbsp;The intent of explicitly carrying priority =
info in the advertisement is to allow for LSP creation at different =
priorities.&nbsp; Note that priority defined in OTN RFC don=A1=AFt apply =
here as it is a different layer. &nbsp;&nbsp;You can have L0-LSP setup =
at priority-1 but L1-Telink (OTN link) formed out of this may advertise =
all 8 or subset of them. &nbsp;It is an implementation choice.&nbsp; I =
don=A1=AFt see any conflicts here.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Once we agree on the =
following items we can figure out TLV encoding =
options.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 =
lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;col=
or:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><span =
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Allow for Advertisement =
of Min &amp; Max slot widths at different priorities =A8C up to =
8<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 =
lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;col=
or:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><span =
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Min/Max slot width field =
=A8C 16 bit instead of 8&nbsp; (I see you are agreeing to this change =
below)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 =
lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;col=
or:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><span =
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Max LSP Bandwidth =A8C =
this was debated in previous meetings but no firm conclusion. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></=
span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Thx<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Rajan<o:p></o:p></span></=
p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'> Zhenghaomian [<a =
href=3D"mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com">mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com</a=
>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 24, 2015 11:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang<br><b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; =
Zhangxian (Xian); Daniele Ceccarelli; Ramon Casellas; Oscar Gonzalez de =
Dios<br><b>Subject:</b> </span><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>=B4=F0=B8=B4</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'>: [CCAMP] </span><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'>: I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div=
></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Hi, =
Rajan,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Thanks =
for the information, I noticed there is a change talking about extending =
Flexi-grid data plan to satisfy requirements in RFC4202. I forward this =
email to all the authors of OSPF draft to advertise your =
comments</span><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-la=
nguage:EN-US'>J</span><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'> =
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Firstly =
let=A1=AFs recall the sub-TLV format in =
draft-dhillon-ccamp-flexgrid-ospfte-ext as follow: =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;color:black;mso-ansi-language=
:EN-US'>&nbsp; <a =
name=3Dsection-0>0</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;3<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;color:black;mso-ansi-language=
:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 =
3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;color:black;mso-ansi-language=
:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp; =
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+<o:p></o=
:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;color:black;mso-ansi-language=
:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp; =
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
 =
Type=3D1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; =
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp; =
Length&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
|<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;color:black;mso-ansi-language=
:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp; =
+---------------------------------------------------------------+<o:p></o=
:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;color:black;mso-ansi-language=
:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp; |Slice Spacing | Pri =
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Reserved&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;color:black;mso-ansi-language=
:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp; =
+---------------------------------------------------------------+<o:p></o=
:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;color:black;mso-ansi-language=
:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp; =
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp; N-Start&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Num of =
Slices&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
|<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;color:black;mso-ansi-language=
:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp; =
+---------------------------------------------------------------+<o:p></o=
:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;color:black;mso-ansi-language=
:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Min Slot Width&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Max Slot =
Width&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
|<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;color:black;mso-ansi-language=
:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp; =
+---------------------------------------------------------------+<o:p></o=
:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;color:black;mso-ansi-language=
:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp; =
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;color:black;mso-ansi-language=
:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp; | =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Bit-Map showing Available =
Slices&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
|<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;color:black;mso-ansi-language=
:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp; =
|&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (up to 48 =
bytes)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;color:black;mso-ansi-language=
:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp; =
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+<o:p></o=
:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Then I =
share my understanding on your concern. Compared with sub-TLV in section =
4.3 of draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01, I highlight the =
difference as follow: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>In your =
proposal, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 =
lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-f=
amily:Calibri;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><span =
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>1)<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Slice =
Spacing is preferred to be carried in the &nbsp;sub-TLV; =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 =
lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-f=
amily:Calibri;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><span =
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>2)<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Priority=
 bits are preferred to be included in sub-TLV;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 =
lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-f=
amily:Calibri;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><span =
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>3)<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Min/Max =
Widths should both be 16-bit; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 =
lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-f=
amily:Calibri;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><span =
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>4)<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>N-start =
and Num of Slices to represent the spectrum rather than C.F.G and S.W.G; =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Below =
please find my comments: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Firstly =
I believe both of your structure and the current structure in WG draft =
are satisfying the requirement of flexi-grid FWK draft (the info model =
in Fig. 17). We only need to deal with some differences in =
representation format, and some additional information may be useful. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 =
lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-f=
amily:Calibri;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><span =
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>1)<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Differen=
t slice spacing is applicable but may not be necessary; the spirit to =
introduce flexible grid is to allow flexibility in spectrum allocation =
and current WG draft can satisfy the requirement. Not much further =
advantage for using slice spacing; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 =
lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-f=
amily:Calibri;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><span =
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>2)<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Priority=
 bits: I agree that it is widely used, I am basically fine to include =
priority bits in the sub-TLV. My only concern is, there are also such =
priority information in other place (for example OTN BW sub-TLV in =
Section 4.1.3 in RFC7138), do we need to repeat here? What is the =
relationship if we have two priorities? Is it possible the OTN priority =
is not consistent with flexi-grid priority? Why? And How to deal with =
this?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 =
lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-f=
amily:Calibri;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><span =
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>3)<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Agreed, =
will change both the min/max widths to 16-bit in the next version; =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 =
lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-f=
amily:Calibri;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><span =
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>4)<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Personal=
ly I don=A1=AFt think it=A1=AFs necessary to change the current WG =
draft: I think your proposed representation can have equivalent result =
as the one in current WG draft;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Rajan, =
please correct me if there is misunderstanding, also let me know if you =
have other comments. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>All, =
please feel free to comments, or we move to the list if =
necessary</span><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-la=
nguage:EN-US'>J</span><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p></o=
:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Best =
wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Haomian<=
o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid =
#B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB</span></=
b><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>:</=
span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'> =
Rajan Rao [<a =
href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</a>] =
<br></span><b><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4</s=
pan></b><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>:</=
span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'> =
2015</span><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>=C4=EA</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>2</=
span><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>=D4=C2</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>24<=
/span><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>=C8=D5</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'> =
4:03<br></span><b><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span></=
b><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>:</=
span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'> =
Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<br></span><b><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>=B3=AD=CB=CD</span></b><b><=
span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>:</=
span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'> =
Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain<br></span><b><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>=D6=F7=CC=E2</span></b><b><=
span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>:</=
span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'> =
RE: [CCAMP] </span><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>: =
I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div=
></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Haomian,<o:p></o:p></span=
></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>The Flexgrid FWK doc has =
been updated with reference to RFC4202. &nbsp;&nbsp;This should address =
the comment you had in the earlier email.&nbsp; Pl refer to updated doc =
(attached email from Ramon). &nbsp;Pl let us know how you would like to =
proceed. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>FWK doc Snip =
below:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New";color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>5.1.2.&nbsp; =
Routing<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New";color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New";color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp; The routing =
protocol will support all functions as described =
in<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New";color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp; [RFC4202] and =
extend them to a flexi-grid data plane.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Thx<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Rajan<o:p></o:p></span></=
p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'> Rajan Rao <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 03, 2015 2:28 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<br><b>Cc:</b> Khuzema =
Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span =
lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun'>=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-ansi-lang=
uage:EN-US'>: I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div=
></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Haomian,<o:p></o:p></span=
></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Thx for the reply. Pl =
see below.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: =
Zhenghaomian [<a =
href=3D"mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com">mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com</a=
>] <br>Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 11:22 PM<br>To: Rajan Rao; Fatai =
Zhang<br>Cc: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain<br>Subject: </span><span =
lang=3DZH-CN style=3D'font-family:"MS Gothic"'>=B4=F0=B8=B4</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>: [CCAMP] </span><span =
lang=3DZH-CN style=3D'font-family:MingLiU'>=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>: I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Hi, Rajan,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Firstly sorry for the very late =
response.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>For your first concern, I see some =
difference in TLVs about priority issue (Table I in your draft). I think =
I understand your description but I didn't find very much advantage to =
include such 'scalable' settings. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p=
><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>RR&gt;&gt; Priority =
based advertisement is pretty standard mechanism used in all existing =
RFCs.&nbsp; For e.g. you can find these in WSON, OTN&nbsp; docs and any =
other Te-extensions draft. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Another concern from me is, for the =
flexi-grid literature, there are more than one WG draft, I think it's =
better to consider such case in fwk draft, and after that the OSPF one =
can revise accordingly. P.S, I don't know whether this topic was =
discussed on the list before (perhaps there are some conclusions, let me =
know). If not, I would like to suggest move to the =
list.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>RR&gt;&gt; I looked at =
framework.&nbsp; Yes, it doesn=A1=AFt talk about priority based =
advertisement.&nbsp; Thanks for pointing this out. Good catch. We will =
provide this comment to FWK authors &amp; CC you.&nbsp; I do not see any =
issue updating the fwk doc with this detail. =
&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>For your second concern on Max LSP =
Bandwidth, my understanding is you are trying to use the description in =
section 3.2 of your draft to replace the one in section 4.3 of current =
WG draft. Is this true? I believe the description in your draft is clear =
and correct. BTW, I noticed bit difference in Min Bandwidth (16 bits =
allocated in your draft and 8 bit in current WG draft), hopefully this =
will not be a big issue (8 bit support a bandwidth up to 3200GHz, which =
is absolutely more than the normal requirement for a minimal =
BW).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>RR&gt;&gt; &nbsp;Yes, I =
was referring to section 3.2 in our draft.&nbsp; =
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>We went with 16-bit =
fields for Min &amp; Max fields as the values for these fields range =
from 0 =A8C 384.&nbsp; We tried to address the case of using full =
spectrum BW as one LSP.&nbsp; This is an extreme case but can=A1=AFt be =
ruled out.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Pl let me know if you =
have any other comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Haomian<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>-----</span><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-family:MingLiU'>=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>-----<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-family:MingLiU'>=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>: Rajan Rao [<a =
href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com"><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>mailt=
o:rrao@infinera.com</span></a>] <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-family:MingLiU'>=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>: 2014</span><span =
lang=3DZH-CN style=3D'font-family:"MS Gothic"'>=C4=EA</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>12</span><span =
lang=3DZH-CN style=3D'font-family:"MS Gothic"'>=D4=C2</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>18</span><span =
lang=3DZH-CN style=3D'font-family:"MS Gothic"'>=C8=D5</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'> =
6:09<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-family:"MS Gothic"'>=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>: Zhenghaomian; Fatai =
Zhang<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-family:"MS Gothic"'>=B3=AD=CB=CD</span><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar =
Hussain<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-family:"MS Gothic"'>=D6=F7</span><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-family:MingLiU'>=CC=E2</span><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>: RE: [CCAMP] </span><span =
lang=3DZH-CN style=3D'font-family:MingLiU'>=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>: I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Haomian,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>As I had mentioned we are no longer =
pushing for SuperChannel in the draft.&nbsp; So, this should make it =
easier to merge the docs.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>In my view there are couple of areas =
your draft doesn't address which can be taken from our =
draft:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>1.&nbsp; You have separated Max &amp; =
Min Slot width in Port Label restriction sub-TLV.&nbsp; This is O.K. But =
this doesn't allow for priority based Min/Max usage.&nbsp;&nbsp; Our =
draft allows for this flexibility which can be =
used.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>2.&nbsp; Max LSP Bandwidth field =
definition can be taken from our doc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>The priority handling can be further =
simplified by merging slice info &amp; Min/Max fields in to a single =
sub-TLV if other authors agree.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Pl let me =
know.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Thx<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Rajan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>-----Original =
Message-----<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>From: Zhenghaomian [<a =
href=3D"mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com"><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>mailt=
o:zhenghaomian@huawei.com</span></a>] <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 5:15 =
PM<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>To: Rajan Rao; Fatai =
Zhang<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Cc: Khuzema =
Pithewan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Subject: </span><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-family:"MS Gothic"'>=B4=F0=B8=B4</span><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>: [CCAMP] </span><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-family:MingLiU'>=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>: I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Hi, Rajan and =
Khuzema,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Thanks for reminding. Do you guys have =
any suggestion on how to merge? Even if we think the current draft is =
self-contained, we are still open on this. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>I know there are some different ideas =
from Infinera, but sorry I am not fully understand every detail. Please =
let me know the exact section that need to be updated and let's see how =
to proceed. Again, this will finally be determined by the WG since =
already adopted. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Haomian<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>-----</span><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-family:MingLiU'>=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>-----<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-family:MingLiU'>=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>: Rajan Rao [<a =
href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com"><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>mailt=
o:rrao@infinera.com</span></a>] <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-family:MingLiU'>=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>: 2014</span><span =
lang=3DZH-CN style=3D'font-family:"MS Gothic"'>=C4=EA</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>12</span><span =
lang=3DZH-CN style=3D'font-family:"MS Gothic"'>=D4=C2</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>17</span><span =
lang=3DZH-CN style=3D'font-family:"MS Gothic"'>=C8=D5</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'> =
6:01<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-family:"MS Gothic"'>=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>: Zhenghaomian; Fatai =
Zhang<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-family:"MS Gothic"'>=B3=AD=CB=CD</span><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>: Khuzema =
Pithewan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-family:"MS Gothic"'>=D6=F7</span><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-family:MingLiU'>=CC=E2</span><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>: RE: [CCAMP] </span><span =
lang=3DZH-CN style=3D'font-family:MingLiU'>=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>: I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Haomian,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>We had sent couple of emails asking =
about merging the contents with our draft.&nbsp; Do you see an =
opportunity or any issues with the merge?&nbsp; Can you pl respond on =
how you would like to proceed? Pl see the attached email we had sent a =
while back.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Rajan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>-----Original =
Message-----<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>From: CCAMP [<a =
href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org"><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>mailt=
o:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</span></a>] On Behalf Of =
Zhenghaomian<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Sent: Tuesday, December =
16, 2014 12:24 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org"><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>ccamp=
@ietf.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Subject: [CCAMP] =
</span><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-family:MingLiU'>=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>: I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Dear CCAMPers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>We upload an updated version to =
reactivate the following draft against expiration, together updating the =
Max width issue proposed in previous discussions. Your comments are =
highly welcomed, thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Haomian on behalf of =
authors<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>-----</span><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-family:MingLiU'>=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>-----<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-family:MingLiU'>=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>: CCAMP [<a =
href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org"><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>mailt=
o:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</span></a>] </span><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-family:"MS Gothic"'>=B4=FA=B1=ED</span><span lang=3DZH-CN> =
</span><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><a =
href=3D"mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org"><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>inter=
net-drafts@ietf.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-family:MingLiU'>=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>: 2014</span><span =
lang=3DZH-CN style=3D'font-family:"MS Gothic"'>=C4=EA</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>12</span><span =
lang=3DZH-CN style=3D'font-family:"MS Gothic"'>=D4=C2</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>16</span><span =
lang=3DZH-CN style=3D'font-family:"MS Gothic"'>=C8=D5</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'> =
16:16<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DZH-CN =
style=3D'font-family:"MS Gothic"'>=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>: <a =
href=3D"mailto:i-d-announce@ietf.org"><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>i-d-a=
nnounce@ietf.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DZH-CN style=3D'font-family:"MS =
Gothic"'>=B3=AD=CB=CD</span><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>: <a =
href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org"><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>ccamp=
@ietf.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DZH-CN style=3D'font-family:"MS Gothic"'>=D6=F7</span><span =
lang=3DZH-CN style=3D'font-family:MingLiU'>=CC=E2</span><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>: [CCAMP] I-D Action: =
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>A New Internet-Draft is available from =
the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>This draft is a work item of the =
Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the =
IETF.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp; Title&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : =
GMPLS OSPF-TE Extensions in support of Flexible =
Grid<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp; Authors&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : Xian =
Zhang<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Haomian =
Zheng<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Ramon =
Casellas<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Oscar Gonzalez de =
Dios<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Daniele =
Ceccarelli<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Filename&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : =
draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Pages&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : =
14<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Date&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : =
2014-12-16<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Abstract:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp; This memo describes the =
OSPF-TE extensions in support of GMPLS<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp; control of networks that =
include devices that use the new flexible<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;&nbsp; optical =
grid.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>The IETF datatracker status page for =
this draft is:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><a =
href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-o=
spf-ext/"><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none'>https=
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style=3D'mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>There's also a htmlized version =
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Adrian,<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<pre style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Looks=
 like there is different interpretation of RFC 4202 text.&nbsp; RFC 4202 te=
xt in sections 2.4.2 &amp; 2.4.3 &nbsp;says&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;colo=
r:#1F497D">=A1=B0=A1=AD..</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family=
:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">an LSP at =
priority<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-=
language:EN-US">&nbsp; p could reserve any bandwidth between the Minimum LS=
P Bandwidth and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-=
language:EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; the Maximum LSP Bandwidth
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;=
color:red;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">at priority p</span><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-=
language:EN-US">, provided that the bandwidth=A1=AD..=A1=B1<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Having only the Maximu=
m LSP bandwidth field priority based &amp; not the Minimum LSP bandwidth fi=
eld doesn=A1=AFt seem right. &nbsp;It is a simplification for sure.&nbsp; W=
hat is the correct interpretation of above text? &nbsp;Will
 be good to know. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Adrian F=
arrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 03, 2015 7:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Zhangxian (Xian)'; Rajan Rao; 'CCAMP'; 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Iftekhar Hussain<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Hi,<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">[Speaki=
ng as a regular contributor which, praise be, I will in just three weeks' t=
ime. Not that I'm counting...]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">There i=
s some up-levelling to be done here.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan s=
eems to be proposing a new concept that would allow us to advertise not jus=
t the bandwidth available at each priority (per 4202) but also to vary the =
constraints on allocation per priority.
 This would allow us to say that priority x LSPs can only use chunks of ban=
dwidth between sizes a and b, while priority y LSPs can only chunks of band=
width between sizes c and d.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">I have =
three questions:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">- Is th=
is a valid thing to want to do in any technology?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">- Is it=
 something we want to do in Flexigrid?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">- Is it=
 something that should be generalised?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thanks,=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Adrian<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
4.0pt">
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<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> CCAMP [<=
a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Zhangxian (Xian)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 03 March 2015 07:22<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.o=
rg</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Iftekhar Hussain<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#632423">Hi, R=
ajan, <o:p>
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Ra=
o [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:SimSun">=C4=EA</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">3</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=D4=C2</span><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">3</span><=
span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=C8=D5</s=
pan><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">
 8:56<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp=
@ietf.org</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Xian,<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Minimum LSP bandwidth =
will address technological advances. For e.g. tomorrow=A1=AFs 6.25GHz &nbsp=
;instead of today=A1=AFs 12.5GHz. GMPLS extensions should cover the case of=
 network having a mix of different hardware capabilities.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#632423">[Xian=
]: I agree with the above statements. But they are a property of an interfa=
ce, which AFAIC does not change over time. That=A1=AFs why I said it have a=
lready be covered by Section 4.3 (please
 take a look if any information is missing as well). &nbsp;ISCD, especially=
 SCSI is used to advertise the available bandwidth information and it is ch=
anging dynamically. So, I do not think SCSI is the right place to do so.<o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Advertising per priori=
ty aligns with RFC4202.&nbsp; I don=A1=AFt see any issues.</span><span styl=
e=3D"color:#632423"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#632423">[Xian=
] I have to disagree.&nbsp; &nbsp;RFC4202 does not support advertising min =
LSP bandwidth per priority. Please take a look at the encoding of Section 1=
.4. of RFC4203. What=A1=AFs said there: for PSC and
 TDM, you carry ONE minimum LSP bandwidth information (which is not associa=
ted per priority); for Lambda switching, it does not have any SCSI at all.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#632423"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#632423">Havin=
g said all these, I personally do not think the value of advertising min LS=
P bandwidth per priority. If you disagree again, could you give me an usage=
 example?&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">As far as Maximum LSP =
bandwidth goes, either option would work but my preference would be to put =
it in technology specific part (SCSI).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#632423">[Xian=
]: point taken. I agree with you that both work but I would prefer to take =
Option 1. Let=A1=AFs get a bit more feedback from the WG before updating th=
e draft.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#632423"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#632423">Regar=
ds,<br>
Xian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhangxia=
n (Xian) [<a href=3D"mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com">mailto:zhang.xian@huawei=
.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.o=
rg</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Hi, R=
ajan, all,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;=A1=B0</span><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Min &a=
mp; Max slot=A1=B1 you mentioned below is a bit mis-leading. I think you wa=
nted to say =A1=B0Min &amp; Max LSP bandwidth=A1=B1. Let talk them one by o=
ne since we are
 not aligned yet on both. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;Why do we need to advertise Min LSP bandwidth per priority in=
 ISCD, e.g., a request cannot set up a LSP smaller than X GHz and it varies=
 per priority? If you&nbsp; meant to say the interface limitation, it is
 covered in Section 4.3 already. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p; &nbsp;As for the Max LSP bandwidth information, I agree with you that RF=
C4204 has this requirement. This draft (draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01) needs to be updated to reflect this. I can think of
 two options: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Option A: use the exis=
ting fields (MAX LSP Bandwidth at priority x, x=3D0-7) &nbsp;in the ISCD (d=
efined in Section 1.4. of RFC4203). The point that we need to update is the=
 unit to be usable in the context of Flexi-grid.
 It will be Hz not byte per second.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Option B: We add the m=
ax LSP bandwidth field (16 bit) in the Available Labels Field by using the =
Reserved field. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Whi=
ch option does the WG prefer?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Regards,<br>
Xian</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Ra=
o [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:SimSun">=C4=EA</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=D4=C2</span><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">28</span>=
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=C8=D5</=
span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;">
 2:51<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp=
@ietf.org</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Xian, all<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Section 4.3 is trying =
to use port label restrictions sub-TLV with a new restriction type.&nbsp; T=
his is fine.&nbsp; But how does a path computing node determine if it can u=
se the link to setup an LSP with N-slots @ priority
 =A1=AEp=A1=AF?&nbsp; &nbsp;For e.g&nbsp; I don=A1=AFt want to allow priori=
ty 7 LSPs to use bandwidth greater than 20 slots on the link but allow for =
LSPs with priority 0, 1 &amp; 2.&nbsp; Where is this info in the TLV?<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">We had given examples =
when we presented our draft in Taipei IETF-82. &nbsp;Ref slides 8 &amp; 10 =
(link below).&nbsp; We had coverage for advertisement of&nbsp; Min &amp; Ma=
x slot widths per priority. This is meant to align with RFC
 4202.&nbsp; I believe WG doc lacks this and needs to address.<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><a href=3D"http://www.=
ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/ccamp-18.pdf">http://www.ietf.org/proceeding=
s/82/slides/ccamp-18.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">thx<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhangxia=
n (Xian) [<a href=3D"mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com">mailto:zhang.xian@huawei=
.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 26, 2015 5:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.o=
rg</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Hi, Raj=
an and all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.5pt;color:black">Thank you for your clarification and I now fully under=
stand your question. I think you have misunderstood Section 4.3. of this dr=
aft. It was not to describe dynamic Max
 &amp; Min LSP bandwidth but rather the capability/constraint associated wi=
th an port, which rarely change over time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:10.5pt"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.5pt;color:black">Isn=A1=AFt information per priority already supported=
? Quoting text from the drafts referred:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<pre style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;col=
or:black">=A1=B0</span><span lang=3D"EN" style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-fami=
ly:SimSun">The technology specific part of the WSON ISCD may include a vari=
able<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN" style=
=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:SimSun">&nbsp;&nbsp; number of sub-TLVs cal=
led Bandwidth sub-TLVs.</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:8.0pt=
;font-family:SimSun">=A1=B1</span><span lang=3D"EN" style=3D"font-size:8.0p=
t;font-family:SimSun"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN" style=
=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:SimSun"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.5pt;color:black">As for the Mix and Max LSP bandwidth, could you give m=
e an example of what you said below, i.e.,=A1=B0Availability of&nbsp; =A1=
=AEN=A1=AF consecutive labels doesn=A1=AFt mean you can setup an
 LSP with a size of =A1=AEN=A1=AF=A1=B1? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">&nbsp;&=
nbsp; &nbsp;What does the WG think of the issue under discussion?<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.5pt;color:black">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.5pt;color:black">Xian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Ra=
o [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:SimSun">=C4=EA</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=D4=C2</span><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">27</span>=
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=C8=D5</=
span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;">
 4:03<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp=
@ietf.org</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Xian,<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">I understand this doc =
is trying to reuse
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">GEN-ENCODE &amp; ther=
e is support for priority. &nbsp;I am not referring to this one. &nbsp;The =
Min Width &amp; Max &nbsp;Width fields do exist in the draft but these alon=
e are not sufficient. We need info per priority for the following
 reason.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">The i=
ntent of Min &amp; Max width info is to specify what is the Minimum/Maximum=
 LSP bandwidth an LSP could reserve at a given priority =A1=AEp=A1=AF on th=
e link.&nbsp; You can draw parallel to =A1=AEMinimum LSP Bandwidth=A1=AF
 &amp; =A1=AEMaximum LSP Bandwidth=A1=AF fields in RFC 4202.&nbsp; &nbsp;<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">I don=
=A1=AFt understand how you can derive this from label set field.&nbsp; &nbs=
p;Availability of&nbsp; =A1=AEN=A1=AF consecutive labels doesn=A1=AFt mean =
you can setup an LSP with a size of =A1=AEN=A1=AF.&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Thx<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Rajan=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhangxia=
n (Xian) [<a href=3D"mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com">mailto:zhang.xian@huawei=
.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 25, 2015 5:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.o=
rg</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Hi, R=
ajan,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; As I was not involved earlier, I find the following may be &n=
bsp;a bit long for others in the WG to get involved. &nbsp;Before I dive in=
to the discussion and share my thoughts, am I accurate if I recap
 the question as:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:5.25pt"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp; You think the existing text in draft-i=
etf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01 do not support the following:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:23.25pt;text-indent:-.25=
in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><span s=
tyle=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497=
D">Do not support priority;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:23.25pt;text-indent:-.25=
in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><span s=
tyle=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497=
D">Do not convey the min &amp; max LSP bandwidth information in the SCSI fi=
eld;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Could=
 you confirm my interpretation of your issue?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">The f=
ollowing is my thoughts ( subject to change if the question I recapped abov=
e is not as exact as what you want to say):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">The&n=
bsp; current method is to reuse what has already been proposed for WSON. So=
 it reuses the SCSI field defined in WSON-OSPF draft (<a href=3D"https://to=
ols.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility-ospf-15#sectio=
n-3.1">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibili=
ty-ospf-15#section-3.1</a>).
 So, it DOES support priority (see the details are in [GEN-ENCODE] draft-ie=
tf-ccamp-general-constraint-encode-20). Exactly because of the same reason,=
 the draft under discussion uses label set field to describe what frequency=
 slots are available. So, although
 it allows for all different varieties supported by [GEN-ENCODE] (i.e., lis=
t, bitmap, inclusive, exclusive etc.), the method does not see the need of =
specify the max&amp;min LSP bandwidth since it can be naturally deduced fro=
m the available frequency spectrum information
 conveyed. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">The a=
bove discussion actually reminds me of a question Ramon raised up a while a=
go among the authors of this draft, what has been defined in WSON-OSPF is t=
ruly usable labels in signaling. But
 with Flexi-grid, it is not true anymore. For example, although we use Incl=
usive Label Range to describe available frequency range, say the example in=
 Section 4.4 of &nbsp;draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01 (assume m=
=3D1), none of these labels are directly
 usable if what is actually requested is a bandwidth with m=3D2. &nbsp;I my=
self do not see any issue as long as we make it clear we use the format jus=
t to describe what resource available NOT usable labels. Since it is a WG d=
raft, it is worthwhile to solicit what
 you think?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Cheer=
s,<br>
Xian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Ra=
o [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:SimSun">=C4=EA</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=D4=C2</span><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">26</span>=
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=C8=D5</=
span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;">
 7:17<br>
<b>To:</b> Daniele Ceccarelli; Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang; CCAMP (<a href=3D=
"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a>)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Ramon Case=
llas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: dra=
ft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Daniele,<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Sure.&nbsp; Added WG i=
n the list for comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan&nbsp; <o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Daniele =
Ceccarelli [<a href=3D"mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com">mailto:danie=
le.ceccarelli@ericsson.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Ramon Case=
llas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: dra=
ft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">This is a really inter=
esting discussion and since we=A1=AFre speaking about a working group draft=
 I think we should continue con the mailing list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Please include the WG =
in your reply.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">BR<br>
Daniele<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
4.0pt">
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Ra=
o [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> mercoled=A8=AC 25 febbraio 2015 19:56<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Daniele Ce=
ccarelli; Ramon Casellas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: dra=
ft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Haomian,<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">The priority in each l=
ayer is independent. &nbsp;The intent of explicitly carrying priority info =
in the advertisement is to allow for LSP creation at different priorities.&=
nbsp; Note that priority defined in OTN RFC don=A1=AFt
 apply here as it is a different layer. &nbsp;&nbsp;You can have L0-LSP set=
up at priority-1 but L1-Telink (OTN link) formed out of this may advertise =
all 8 or subset of them. &nbsp;It is an implementation choice.&nbsp; I don=
=A1=AFt see any conflicts here.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Once we agree on the f=
ollowing items we can figure out TLV encoding options.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;=
mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:=
Ignore">1.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Allow for Adve=
rtisement of Min &amp; Max slot widths at different priorities =A8C up to 8=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;=
mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:=
Ignore">2.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Min/Max slot w=
idth field =A8C 16 bit instead of 8&nbsp; (I see you are agreeing to this c=
hange below)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;=
mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:=
Ignore">3.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Max LSP Bandwi=
dth =A8C this was debated in previous meetings but no firm conclusion.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhenghao=
mian [<a href=3D"mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com">mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei=
.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 24, 2015 11:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Daniele Ce=
ccarelli; Ramon Casellas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<br>
<b>Subject:</b> </span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:SimSun">=B4=F0=B8=B4</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: [CCAMP]
</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=
=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma=
&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid=
-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Hi, R=
ajan,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Thank=
s for the information, I noticed there is a change talking about extending =
Flexi-grid data plan to satisfy requirements in RFC4202. I forward this ema=
il to all the authors of OSPF draft
 to advertise your comments</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-fami=
ly:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"> &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">First=
ly let=A1=AFs recall the sub-TLV format in draft-dhillon-ccamp-flexgrid-osp=
fte-ext as follow:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;
<a name=3D"section-0">0</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;3<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2=
 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#4=
3;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-=
&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Type=3D1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Length&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;----------------------------------------------=
-----------------&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |Slice Spacing | Pri |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp; Reserved&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;----------------------------------------------=
-----------------&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; N-Start&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Num=
 of Slices&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;----------------------------------------------=
-----------------&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; M=
in Slot Width&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Max Slot Width&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;----------------------------------------------=
-----------------&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; | &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Bit-Map showing =
Available Slices&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (up =
to 48 bytes)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#4=
3;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-=
&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Then =
I share my understanding on your concern. Compared with sub-TLV in section =
4.3 of draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01, I highlight the differen=
ce as follow:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">In yo=
ur proposal,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in=
;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><span s=
tyle=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497=
D">Slice Spacing is preferred to be carried in the &nbsp;sub-TLV;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in=
;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><span s=
tyle=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497=
D">Priority bits are preferred to be included in sub-TLV;<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in=
;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><span s=
tyle=3D"mso-list:Ignore">3)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497=
D">Min/Max Widths should both be 16-bit;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in=
;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><span s=
tyle=3D"mso-list:Ignore">4)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497=
D">N-start and Num of Slices to represent the spectrum rather than C.F.G an=
d S.W.G;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Below=
 please find my comments:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">First=
ly I believe both of your structure and the current structure in WG draft a=
re satisfying the requirement of flexi-grid FWK draft (the info model in Fi=
g. 17). We only need to deal with some
 differences in representation format, and some additional information may =
be useful.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in=
;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><span s=
tyle=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497=
D">Different slice spacing is applicable but may not be necessary; the spir=
it to introduce flexible grid is to allow flexibility in spectrum allocatio=
n and current WG draft can satisfy
 the requirement. Not much further advantage for using slice spacing; <o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in=
;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><span s=
tyle=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497=
D">Priority bits: I agree that it is widely used, I am basically fine to in=
clude priority bits in the sub-TLV. My only concern is, there are also such=
 priority information in other place
 (for example OTN BW sub-TLV in Section 4.1.3 in RFC7138), do we need to re=
peat here? What is the relationship if we have two priorities? Is it possib=
le the OTN priority is not consistent with flexi-grid priority? Why? And Ho=
w to deal with this?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in=
;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><span s=
tyle=3D"mso-list:Ignore">3)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497=
D">Agreed, will change both the min/max widths to 16-bit in the next versio=
n;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in=
;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><span s=
tyle=3D"mso-list:Ignore">4)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497=
D">Personally I don=A1=AFt think it=A1=AFs necessary to change the current =
WG draft: I think your proposed representation can have equivalent result a=
s the one in current WG draft;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Rajan=
, please correct me if there is misunderstanding, also let me know if you h=
ave other comments.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">All, =
please feel free to comments, or we move to the list if necessary</span><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Best =
wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Haomi=
an<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:SimSun">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB</span></b><b><span style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:SimSun"> Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailto:rra=
o@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
</span><b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun=
">=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4</span></b><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:SimSun">:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Si=
mSun"> 2015</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:SimSun">=C4=EA</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=
2</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=
=D4=C2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">24</span><=
span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=C8=D5</s=
pan><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">
 4:03<br>
</span><b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun=
">=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span></b><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:SimSun">:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=
 Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<br>
</span><b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun=
">=B3=AD=CB=CD</span></b><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Sim=
Sun">:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun"> Khuze=
ma Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain<br>
</span><b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun=
">=D6=F7=CC=E2</span></b><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Sim=
Sun">:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun"> RE: [=
CCAMP]
</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=
=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">: I-=
D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Haomian,<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">The Flexgrid FWK doc h=
as been updated with reference to RFC4202. &nbsp;&nbsp;This should address =
the comment you had in the earlier email.&nbsp; Pl refer to updated doc (at=
tached email from Ramon). &nbsp;Pl let us know how you would
 like to proceed. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">FWK doc Snip below:<o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">5.1.2.&nbsp; Routing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; The routing protocol will support=
 all functions as described in<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; [RFC4202] and extend them to a fl=
exi-grid data plane.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Ra=
o
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 03, 2015 2:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: dra=
ft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Haomian,<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx for the reply. =
Pl see below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Zhenghaomian [<a href=3D"mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com">mailto:zheng=
haomian@huawei.com</a>]
<br>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 11:22 PM<br>
To: Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang<br>
Cc: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain<br>
Subject: <span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=
=B4=F0=B8=B4</span>: [CCAMP] <span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:Ming=
LiU">
=D7=AA=B7=A2</span>: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01=
.txt<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Hi, Rajan,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Firstly sorry for the very late response.<o:p></o=
:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">For your first concern, I see some difference in =
TLVs about priority issue (Table I in your draft). I think I understand you=
r description but I didn't find very much advantage to include such 'scalab=
le' settings.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">RR&gt;&gt; Priority=
 based advertisement is pretty standard mechanism used in all existing RFCs=
.&nbsp; For e.g. you can find these in WSON, OTN&nbsp; docs and any other T=
e-extensions draft.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Another concern from me is, for the flexi-grid li=
terature, there are more than one WG draft, I think it's better to consider=
 such case in fwk draft, and after that the OSPF one can revise accordingly=
. P.S, I don't know whether this topic
 was discussed on the list before (perhaps there are some conclusions, let =
me know). If not, I would like to suggest move to the list.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">RR&gt;&gt; I looked=
 at framework.&nbsp; Yes, it doesn=A1=AFt talk about priority based adverti=
sement.&nbsp; Thanks for pointing this out. Good catch. We will provide thi=
s comment to FWK authors &amp; CC you.&nbsp; I do not see any issue
 updating the fwk doc with this detail. &nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">For your second concern on Max LSP Bandwidth, my =
understanding is you are trying to use the description in section 3.2 of yo=
ur draft to replace the one in section 4.3 of current WG draft. Is this tru=
e? I believe the description in your
 draft is clear and correct. BTW, I noticed bit difference in Min Bandwidth=
 (16 bits allocated in your draft and 8 bit in current WG draft), hopefully=
 this will not be a big issue (8 bit support a bandwidth up to 3200GHz, whi=
ch is absolutely more than the normal
 requirement for a minimal BW).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">RR&gt;&gt; &nbsp;Ye=
s, I was referring to section 3.2 in our draft.&nbsp; &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">We went with 16-bit=
 fields for Min &amp; Max fields as the values for these fields range from =
0 =A8C 384.&nbsp; We tried to address the case of using full spectrum BW as=
 one LSP.&nbsp; This is an extreme case but can=A1=AFt be
 ruled out.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Pl let me know if y=
ou have any other comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Haomian<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">-----<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:Mi=
ngLiU">=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE</span>-----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:MingLiU=
">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB</span>: Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com=
"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:rrao@infiner=
a.com</span></a>]
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:MingLiU=
">=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4</span>: 2014<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-f=
amily:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C4=EA</span>12<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"f=
ont-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=D4=C2</span>18<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C8=D5</span>
 6:09<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;M=
S Gothic&quot;">=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span>: Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<o:p></=
o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;M=
S Gothic&quot;">=B3=AD=CB=CD</span>: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain<o:p=
></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;M=
S Gothic&quot;">=D6=F7</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:Ming=
LiU">=CC=E2</span>: RE: [CCAMP]
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span>: I-D=
 Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Haomian,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">As I had mentioned we are no longer pushing for S=
uperChannel in the draft.&nbsp; So, this should make it easier to merge the=
 docs.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">In my view there are couple of areas your draft d=
oesn't address which can be taken from our draft:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">1.&nbsp; You have separated Max &amp; Min Slot wi=
dth in Port Label restriction sub-TLV.&nbsp; This is O.K. But this doesn't =
allow for priority based Min/Max usage.&nbsp;&nbsp; Our draft allows for th=
is flexibility which can be used.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">2.&nbsp; Max LSP Bandwidth field definition can b=
e taken from our doc.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">The priority handling can be further simplified b=
y merging slice info &amp; Min/Max fields in to a single sub-TLV if other a=
uthors agree.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Pl let me know.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Thx<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Rajan<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">From: Zhenghaomian [<a href=3D"mailto:zhenghaomia=
n@huawei.com"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:=
zhenghaomian@huawei.com</span></a>]
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 5:15 PM<o:p></o:=
p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">To: Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Cc: Khuzema Pithewan<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Subject: <span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-famil=
y:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">
=B4=F0=B8=B4</span>: [CCAMP] <span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:Ming=
LiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span>: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-e=
xt-01.txt<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Hi, Rajan and Khuzema,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Thanks for reminding. Do you guys have any sugges=
tion on how to merge? Even if we think the current draft is self-contained,=
 we are still open on this.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">I know there are some different ideas from Infine=
ra, but sorry I am not fully understand every detail. Please let me know th=
e exact section that need to be updated and let's see how to proceed. Again=
, this will finally be determined
 by the WG since already adopted. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Haomian<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">-----<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:Mi=
ngLiU">=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE</span>-----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:MingLiU=
">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB</span>: Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com=
"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:rrao@infiner=
a.com</span></a>]
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:MingLiU=
">=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4</span>: 2014<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-f=
amily:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C4=EA</span>12<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"f=
ont-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=D4=C2</span>17<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C8=D5</span>
 6:01<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;M=
S Gothic&quot;">=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span>: Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<o:p></=
o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;M=
S Gothic&quot;">=B3=AD=CB=CD</span>: Khuzema Pithewan<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;M=
S Gothic&quot;">=D6=F7</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:Ming=
LiU">=CC=E2</span>: RE: [CCAMP]
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span>: I-D=
 Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Haomian,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">We had sent couple of emails asking about merging=
 the contents with our draft.&nbsp; Do you see an opportunity or any issues=
 with the merge?&nbsp; Can you pl respond on how you would like to proceed?=
 Pl see the attached email we had sent a while
 back.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Thanks<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Rajan<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">From: CCAMP [<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf=
.org"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:ccamp-bo=
unces@ietf.org</span></a>] On Behalf Of Zhenghaomian<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 12:24 AM<o:p></o=
:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">To: <a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org"><span style=
=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a><o:p></=
o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Subject: [CCAMP] <span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"fo=
nt-family:MingLiU">
=D7=AA=B7=A2</span>: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01=
.txt<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Dear CCAMPers,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">We upload an updated version to reactivate the fo=
llowing draft against expiration, together updating the Max width issue pro=
posed in previous discussions. Your comments are highly welcomed, thanks.<o=
:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Haomian on behalf of authors<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">-----<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:Mi=
ngLiU">=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE</span>-----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:MingLiU=
">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB</span>: CCAMP [<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.or=
g"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:ccamp-bounc=
es@ietf.org</span></a>]
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=B4=FA=B1=
=ED</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN"> </span>
<a href=3D"mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org"><span style=3D"color:windowtext=
;text-decoration:none">internet-drafts@ietf.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:MingLiU=
">=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4</span>: 2014<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-f=
amily:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C4=EA</span>12<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"f=
ont-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=D4=C2</span>16<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C8=D5</span>
 16:16<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;M=
S Gothic&quot;">=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span>:
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S Gothic&quot;">=D6=F7</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:Ming=
LiU">=CC=E2</span>: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-lin=
e Internet-Drafts directories.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">This draft is a work item of the Common Control a=
nd Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Title&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : GMPLS OSPF-TE=
 Extensions in support of Flexible Grid<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Author=
s&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : Xian Zhang<o:p></o:p></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Haomian Zheng<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Ramon Casellas<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Daniele Ceccarelli<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Filename&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp; : draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Pages&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : 14<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Date&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : 2014-12-16<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Abstract:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; This memo describes the OSPF-TE exte=
nsions in support of GMPLS<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; control of networks that include dev=
ices that use the new flexible<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; optical grid.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">The IETF datatracker status page for this draft i=
s:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft=
-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext/"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-d=
ecoration:none">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-=
grid-ospf-ext/</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">There's also a htmlized version available at:<o:p=
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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-=
ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decor=
ation:none">http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-=
ext-01</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">A diff from the previous version is available at:=
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><a href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddra=
ft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;te=
xt-decoration:none">http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-fle=
xible-grid-ospf-ext-01</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Hi, Rajan, all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">RFC4202 alone is indeed subject to yo=
ur interpretation since it describes the requirements in text. RFC4203 (the=
 OSPF extensions) &amp; RFC5307 (IS-IS one)
 are much more clear as they defines the fields/encoding, matching what is =
described in RFC4202.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">My 2cents,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Xian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [mailto:rrao@infinera.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=
=CC=E5">=C4=EA</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">3</span><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D4=C2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">4</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=C8=
=D5</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 9:12<br>
<b>To:</b> adrian@olddog.co.uk; Zhangxian (Xian); 'CCAMP'; 'Ramon Casellas'=
<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Iftekhar Hussain<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Adrian,=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<pre style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color=
:#1F497D">Looks like there is different interpretation of RFC 4202 text.&nb=
sp; RFC 4202 text in sections 2.4.2 &amp; 2.4.3 &nbsp;says&nbsp; <o:p></o:p=
></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-=
size:9.0pt;color:#1F497D">=A1=B0=A1=AD..</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">an LS=
P at priority<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN-=
US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:bla=
ck">&nbsp; p could reserve any bandwidth between the Minimum LSP Bandwidth =
and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN-=
US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:bla=
ck">&nbsp;&nbsp; the Maximum LSP Bandwidth
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cou=
rier New&quot;;color:red">at priority p</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">, provid=
ed that the bandwidth=A1=AD..=A1=B1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Having =
only the Maximum LSP bandwidth field priority based &amp; not the Minimum L=
SP bandwidth field doesn=A1=AFt seem right. &nbsp;It is a simplification fo=
r sure.&nbsp; What is the correct interpretation of above
 text? &nbsp;Will be good to know. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 03, 2015 7:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Zhangxian (Xian)'; Rajan Rao; 'CCAMP'; 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Iftekhar Hussain<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Hi,<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">[Speaki=
ng as a regular contributor which, praise be, I will in just three weeks' t=
ime. Not that I'm counting...]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">There i=
s some up-levelling to be done here.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan s=
eems to be proposing a new concept that would allow us to advertise not jus=
t the bandwidth available at each priority (per 4202) but also to vary the =
constraints on allocation per priority.
 This would allow us to say that priority x LSPs can only use chunks of ban=
dwidth between sizes a and b, while priority y LSPs can only chunks of band=
width between sizes c and d.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">I have =
three questions:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">- Is th=
is a valid thing to want to do in any technology?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">- Is it=
 something we want to do in Flexigrid?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">- Is it=
 something that should be generalised?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thanks,=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Adrian<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> CCAMP [<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org">mail=
to:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Zhangxian (Xian)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 03 March 2015 07:22<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.o=
rg</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Iftekhar Hussain<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#632423">Hi, Rajan,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailt=
o:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=
=CC=E5">=C4=EA</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">3</span><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D4=C2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">3</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=C8=
=D5</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&q=
uot;sans-serif&quot;">
<span lang=3D"EN-US">8:56<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp=
@ietf.org</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Xian,<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Minimum=
 LSP bandwidth will address technological advances. For e.g. tomorrow=A1=AF=
s 6.25GHz &nbsp;instead of today=A1=AFs 12.5GHz. GMPLS extensions should co=
ver the case of network having a mix of different hardware
 capabilities. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#632423">[Xian]: I agree with the above statements. But they are a propert=
y of an interface, which AFAIC does not change over time. That=A1=AFs why I=
 said it have already be covered by Section
 4.3 (please take a look if any information is missing as well). &nbsp;ISCD=
, especially SCSI is used to advertise the available bandwidth information =
and it is changing dynamically. So, I do not think SCSI is the right place =
to do so.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Adverti=
sing per priority aligns with RFC4202.&nbsp; I don=A1=AFt see any issues.</=
span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#632423"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#632423">[Xian] I have to disagree.&nbsp; &nbsp;RFC4202 does not support a=
dvertising min LSP bandwidth per priority. Please take a look at the encodi=
ng of Section 1.4. of RFC4203. What=A1=AFs said there:
 for PSC and TDM, you carry ONE minimum LSP bandwidth information (which is=
 not associated per priority); for Lambda switching, it does not have any S=
CSI at all.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#632423"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#632423">Having said all these, I personally do not think the value of adv=
ertising min LSP bandwidth per priority. If you disagree again, could you g=
ive me an usage example?&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">As far =
as Maximum LSP bandwidth goes, either option would work but my preference w=
ould be to put it in technology specific part (SCSI).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#632423">[Xian]: point taken. I agree with you that both work but I would =
prefer to take Option 1. Let=A1=AFs get a bit more feedback from the WG bef=
ore updating the draft.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#632423"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#632423">Regards,<br>
Xian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhangxian (Xian) [<a href=3D"mailto:zhang.xian@huawei=
.com">mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.o=
rg</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Hi, Rajan, all,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;=A1=B0</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"color:#1F497D">Min &amp; Max slot=A1=B1 you mentioned below is a b=
it mis-leading. I think you wanted to say =A1=B0Min &amp; Max LSP bandwidth=
=A1=B1. Let talk them
 one by one since we are not aligned yet on both. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Why do we need to advertise Min LSP bandwidth =
per priority in ISCD, e.g., a request cannot set up a LSP smaller than X GH=
z and it varies per priority? If you&nbsp; meant to say the interface limit=
ation,
 it is covered in Section 4.3 already. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;As for the Max LSP bandwidth information, I agree w=
ith you that RFC4204 has this requirement. This draft (draft-ietf-ccamp-fle=
xible-grid-ospf-ext-01) needs to be updated to reflect this. I
 can think of two options: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Option =
A: use the existing fields (MAX LSP Bandwidth at priority x, x=3D0-7) &nbsp=
;in the ISCD (defined in Section 1.4. of RFC4203). The point that we need t=
o update is the unit to be usable in the context
 of Flexi-grid. It will be Hz not byte per second.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Option =
B: We add the max LSP bandwidth field (16 bit) in the Available Labels Fiel=
d by using the Reserved field. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp; Which option does the WG prefer?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Regards=
,<br>
Xian</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailt=
o:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=
=CC=E5">=C4=EA</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2</span><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D4=C2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">28</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=C8=
=D5</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 2:51<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp=
@ietf.org</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Xian, a=
ll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Section=
 4.3 is trying to use port label restrictions sub-TLV with a new restrictio=
n type.&nbsp; This is fine.&nbsp; But how does a path computing node determ=
ine if it can use the link to setup an LSP with
 N-slots @ priority =A1=AEp=A1=AF?&nbsp; &nbsp;For e.g&nbsp; I don=A1=AFt w=
ant to allow priority 7 LSPs to use bandwidth greater than 20 slots on the =
link but allow for LSPs with priority 0, 1 &amp; 2.&nbsp; Where is this inf=
o in the TLV?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">We had =
given examples when we presented our draft in Taipei IETF-82. &nbsp;Ref sli=
des 8 &amp; 10 (link below).&nbsp; We had coverage for advertisement of&nbs=
p; Min &amp; Max slot widths per priority. This is meant to align
 with RFC 4202.&nbsp; I believe WG doc lacks this and needs to address.<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><a href=
=3D"http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/ccamp-18.pdf">http://www.ietf=
.org/proceedings/82/slides/ccamp-18.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">thx<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhangxian (Xian) [<a href=3D"mailto:zhang.xian@huawei=
.com">mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 26, 2015 5:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.o=
rg</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:black">Hi, Rajan and all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Thank you for your clarification and I =
now fully understand your question. I think you have misunderstood Section =
4.3. of this draft. It was not to describe
 dynamic Max &amp; Min LSP bandwidth but rather the capability/constraint a=
ssociated with an port, which rarely change over time.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:10.5pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Isn=A1=AFt information per priority al=
ready supported? Quoting text from the drafts referred:<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<pre style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-=
size:10.5pt;color:black">=A1=B0</span><span lang=3D"EN" style=3D"font-size:=
8.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">The technology specific part of the WSON IS=
CD may include a variable<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN" style=
=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">&nbsp;&nbsp; number of sub-TL=
Vs called Bandwidth sub-TLVs.</span><span style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-fam=
ily:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=A1=B1</span><span lang=3D"EN" style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;f=
ont-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN" style=
=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">As for the Mix and Max LSP bandwidth, c=
ould you give me an example of what you said below, i.e.,=A1=B0Availability=
 of&nbsp; =A1=AEN=A1=AF consecutive labels doesn=A1=AFt mean you
 can setup an LSP with a size of =A1=AEN=A1=AF=A1=B1? <o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;What does the WG think of the issue under discus=
sion?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Xian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailt=
o:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=
=CC=E5">=C4=EA</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2</span><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D4=C2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">27</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=C8=
=D5</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 4:03<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp=
@ietf.org</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Xian,<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">I under=
stand this doc is trying to reuse
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">GEN-EN=
CODE &amp; there is support for priority. &nbsp;I am not referring to this =
one. &nbsp;The Min Width &amp; Max &nbsp;Width fields do exist in the draft=
 but these alone are not sufficient. We need info per priority
 for the following reason.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">The intent of Min &amp; Max width info is to specify what is the =
Minimum/Maximum LSP bandwidth an LSP could reserve at a given priority =A1=
=AEp=A1=AF on the link.&nbsp; You can draw parallel to =A1=AEMinimum
 LSP Bandwidth=A1=AF &amp; =A1=AEMaximum LSP Bandwidth=A1=AF fields in RFC =
4202.&nbsp; &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">I don=A1=AFt understand how you can derive this from label set fi=
eld.&nbsp; &nbsp;Availability of&nbsp; =A1=AEN=A1=AF consecutive labels doe=
sn=A1=AFt mean you can setup an LSP with a size of =A1=AEN=A1=AF.&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Thx<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Rajan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhangxian (Xian) [<a href=3D"mailto:zhang.xian@huawei=
.com">mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 25, 2015 5:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.o=
rg</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Hi, Rajan,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; As I was not involved earlier, I find the foll=
owing may be &nbsp;a bit long for others in the WG to get involved. &nbsp;B=
efore I dive into the discussion and share my thoughts, am I accurate
 if I recap the question as:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:5.25pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp; You think the existing =
text in draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01 do not support the follo=
wing:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:23.25pt;text-indent:-18.=
0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Do not support priority;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:23.25pt;text-indent:-18.=
0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Do not convey the min &amp; max LSP bandwidth information=
 in the SCSI field;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Could you confirm my interpretation of your issue?<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">The following is my thoughts ( subject to change if the question =
I recapped above is not as exact as what you want to say):<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">The&nbsp; current method is to reuse what has already been propos=
ed for WSON. So it reuses the SCSI field defined in WSON-OSPF draft (<a hre=
f=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility=
-ospf-15#section-3.1">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-sig=
nal-compatibility-ospf-15#section-3.1</a>).
 So, it DOES support priority (see the details are in [GEN-ENCODE] draft-ie=
tf-ccamp-general-constraint-encode-20). Exactly because of the same reason,=
 the draft under discussion uses label set field to describe what frequency=
 slots are available. So, although
 it allows for all different varieties supported by [GEN-ENCODE] (i.e., lis=
t, bitmap, inclusive, exclusive etc.), the method does not see the need of =
specify the max&amp;min LSP bandwidth since it can be naturally deduced fro=
m the available frequency spectrum information
 conveyed. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">The above discussion actually reminds me of a question Ramon rais=
ed up a while ago among the authors of this draft, what has been defined in=
 WSON-OSPF is truly usable labels in signaling.
 But with Flexi-grid, it is not true anymore. For example, although we use =
Inclusive Label Range to describe available frequency range, say the exampl=
e in Section 4.4 of &nbsp;draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01 (assum=
e m=3D1), none of these labels are directly
 usable if what is actually requested is a bandwidth with m=3D2. &nbsp;I my=
self do not see any issue as long as we make it clear we use the format jus=
t to describe what resource available NOT usable labels. Since it is a WG d=
raft, it is worthwhile to solicit what
 you think?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Cheers,<br>
Xian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailt=
o:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=
=CC=E5">=C4=EA</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2</span><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D4=C2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">26</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=C8=
=D5</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 7:17<br>
<b>To:</b> Daniele Ceccarelli; Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang; CCAMP (<a href=3D=
"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a>)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Ramon Case=
llas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Actio=
n: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Daniele=
,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Sure.&n=
bsp; Added WG in the list for comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan&n=
bsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Daniele Ceccarelli [<a href=3D"mailto:daniele.ceccare=
lli@ericsson.com">mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Ramon Case=
llas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Actio=
n: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Hi all,=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">This is=
 a really interesting discussion and since we=A1=AFre speaking about a work=
ing group draft I think we should continue con the mailing list.<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Please =
include the WG in your reply.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">BR<br>
Daniele<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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4.0pt">
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailt=
o:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> mercoled=A8=AC 25 febbraio 2015 19:56<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Daniele Ce=
ccarelli; Ramon Casellas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Actio=
n: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Haomian=
,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">The pri=
ority in each layer is independent. &nbsp;The intent of explicitly carrying=
 priority info in the advertisement is to allow for LSP creation at differe=
nt priorities.&nbsp; Note that priority defined
 in OTN RFC don=A1=AFt apply here as it is a different layer. &nbsp;&nbsp;Y=
ou can have L0-LSP setup at priority-1 but L1-Telink (OTN link) formed out =
of this may advertise all 8 or subset of them. &nbsp;It is an implementatio=
n choice.&nbsp; I don=A1=AFt see any conflicts here.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Once we=
 agree on the following items we can figure out TLV encoding options.<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><span sty=
le=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&qu=
ot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"=
>Allow for Advertisement of Min &amp; Max slot widths at different prioriti=
es =A8C up to 8<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><span sty=
le=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&qu=
ot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"=
>Min/Max slot width field =A8C 16 bit instead of 8&nbsp; (I see you are agr=
eeing to this change below)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><span sty=
le=3D"mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&qu=
ot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"=
>Max LSP Bandwidth =A8C this was debated in previous meetings but no firm c=
onclusion.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&=
nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhenghaomian [<a href=3D"mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.c=
om">mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 24, 2015 11:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Daniele Ce=
ccarelli; Ramon Casellas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<br>
<b>Subject:</b> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=
=CC=E5">=B4=F0=B8=B4</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: [CCAMP]
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D7=AA=B7=
=A2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexibl=
e-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Hi, Rajan,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Thanks for the information, I noticed there is a change talking a=
bout extending Flexi-grid data plan to satisfy requirements in RFC4202. I f=
orward this email to all the authors of
 OSPF draft to advertise your comments</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"=
font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"> &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Firstly let=A1=AFs recall the sub-TLV format in draft-dhillon-cca=
mp-flexgrid-ospfte-ext as follow:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;
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p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;3<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
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amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 =
2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-=
&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#4=
3;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-=
&#43;-&#43;-&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Type=3D1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Length&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-------------------------=
--------------------------------------&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |Slice Spacing | Pri |&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Reserved&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-------------------------=
--------------------------------------&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; N-Start&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Num of Slices&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-------------------------=
--------------------------------------&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Min Slot Width&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Max Slot Width&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-------------------------=
--------------------------------------&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; | &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;Bit-Map showing Available Slices&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (up to 48 bytes)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-=
&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#4=
3;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-=
&#43;-&#43;-&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Then I share my understanding on your concern. Compared with sub-=
TLV in section 4.3 of draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01, I highlig=
ht the difference as follow:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">In your proposal,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Slice Spacing is preferred to be carried in the &nbsp;sub=
-TLV;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Priority bits are preferred to be included in sub-TLV;<o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">3)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Min/Max Widths should both be 16-bit;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">4)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">N-start and Num of Slices to represent the spectrum rathe=
r than C.F.G and S.W.G;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Below please find my comments:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Firstly I believe both of your structure and the current structur=
e in WG draft are satisfying the requirement of flexi-grid FWK draft (the i=
nfo model in Fig. 17). We only need to
 deal with some differences in representation format, and some additional i=
nformation may be useful.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Different slice spacing is applicable but may not be nece=
ssary; the spirit to introduce flexible grid is to allow flexibility in spe=
ctrum allocation and current WG draft
 can satisfy the requirement. Not much further advantage for using slice sp=
acing;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Priority bits: I agree that it is widely used, I am basic=
ally fine to include priority bits in the sub-TLV. My only concern is, ther=
e are also such priority information
 in other place (for example OTN BW sub-TLV in Section 4.1.3 in RFC7138), d=
o we need to repeat here? What is the relationship if we have two prioritie=
s? Is it possible the OTN priority is not consistent with flexi-grid priori=
ty? Why? And How to deal with this?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">3)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Agreed, will change both the min/max widths to 16-bit in =
the next version;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">4)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Personally I don=A1=AFt think it=A1=AFs necessary to chan=
ge the current WG draft: I think your proposed representation can have equi=
valent result as the one in current WG draft;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Rajan, please correct me if there is misunderstanding, also let m=
e know if you have other comments.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">All, please feel free to comments, or we move to the list if nece=
ssary</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Wing=
dings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt=
;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Haomian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=
=CE=CC=E5">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5"> Rajan R=
ao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
</span><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=B7=A2=
=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></span></b><span lang=3D"EN-=
US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5"> 2015</span><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=C4=EA<span lang=3D"EN-U=
S">2</span>=D4=C2<span lang=3D"EN-US">24</span>=C8=D5<span lang=3D"EN-US">
 4:03<br>
</span><b>=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></b><span lang=3D"=
EN-US"> Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<br>
</span><b>=B3=AD=CB=CD<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain<br>
</span><b>=D6=F7=CC=E2<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
> RE: [CCAMP] </span>
=D7=AA=B7=A2<span lang=3D"EN-US">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-gr=
id-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Haomian=
,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">The Fle=
xgrid FWK doc has been updated with reference to RFC4202. &nbsp;&nbsp;This =
should address the comment you had in the earlier email.&nbsp; Pl refer to =
updated doc (attached email from Ramon). &nbsp;Pl let us know
 how you would like to proceed. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">FWK doc=
 Snip below:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">5.1.2.&nbsp; Routing<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; The routing protoc=
ol will support all functions as described in<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; [RFC4202] and exte=
nd them to a flexi-grid data plane.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 03, 2015 2:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Actio=
n: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Haom=
ian,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx =
for the reply. Pl see below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">-----Original Message-----<b=
r>
From: Zhenghaomian [<a href=3D"mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com">mailto:zheng=
haomian@huawei.com</a>]
<br>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 11:22 PM<br>
To: Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang<br>
Cc: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain<br>
Subject: </span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=B4=F0=B8=
=B4</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: [CCAMP]
</span><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Hi, Rajan,<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Firstly sorry for the very l=
ate response.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">For your first concern, I se=
e some difference in TLVs about priority issue (Table I in your draft). I t=
hink I understand your description but I didn't find very much advantage to=
 include such 'scalable' settings.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black"><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">RR&g=
t;&gt; Priority based advertisement is pretty standard mechanism used in al=
l existing RFCs.&nbsp; For e.g. you can find these in WSON, OTN&nbsp; docs =
and any other Te-extensions draft.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Another concern from me is, =
for the flexi-grid literature, there are more than one WG draft, I think it=
's better to consider such case in fwk draft, and after that the OSPF one c=
an revise accordingly. P.S, I don't
 know whether this topic was discussed on the list before (perhaps there ar=
e some conclusions, let me know). If not, I would like to suggest move to t=
he list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">RR&g=
t;&gt; I looked at framework.&nbsp; Yes, it doesn=A1=AFt talk about priorit=
y based advertisement.&nbsp; Thanks for pointing this out. Good catch. We w=
ill provide this comment to FWK authors &amp; CC you.&nbsp; I do not
 see any issue updating the fwk doc with this detail. &nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">For your second concern on M=
ax LSP Bandwidth, my understanding is you are trying to use the description=
 in section 3.2 of your draft to replace the one in section 4.3 of current =
WG draft. Is this true? I believe the
 description in your draft is clear and correct. BTW, I noticed bit differe=
nce in Min Bandwidth (16 bits allocated in your draft and 8 bit in current =
WG draft), hopefully this will not be a big issue (8 bit support a bandwidt=
h up to 3200GHz, which is absolutely
 more than the normal requirement for a minimal BW).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">RR&g=
t;&gt; &nbsp;Yes, I was referring to section 3.2 in our draft.&nbsp; &nbsp;=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">We w=
ent with 16-bit fields for Min &amp; Max fields as the values for these fie=
lds range from 0 =A8C 384.&nbsp; We tried to address the case of using full=
 spectrum BW as one LSP.&nbsp; This is an extreme case
 but can=A1=AFt be ruled out.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Pl l=
et me know if you have any other comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Haomian<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">-----</span><span style=3D"f=
ont-family:MingLiU">=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">---=
--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=B7=A2=BC=FE=
=C8=CB</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infin=
era.com"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:rrao@=
infinera.com</span></a>]
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=B7=A2=CB=CD=
=CA=B1=BC=E4</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: 2014</span><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C4=EA</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">12</span><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=D4=C2</span><span lang=3D"EN=
-US">18</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C8=D5</spa=
n><span lang=3D"EN-US">
 6:09<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"=
>=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"=
>=B3=AD=CB=CD</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussa=
in<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"=
>=D6=F7</span><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=CC=E2</span><span lang=
=3D"EN-US">: RE: [CCAMP]
</span><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Haomian,<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">As I had mentioned we are no=
 longer pushing for SuperChannel in the draft.&nbsp; So, this should make i=
t easier to merge the docs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">In my view there are couple =
of areas your draft doesn't address which can be taken from our draft:<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">1.&nbsp; You have separated =
Max &amp; Min Slot width in Port Label restriction sub-TLV.&nbsp; This is O=
.K. But this doesn't allow for priority based Min/Max usage.&nbsp;&nbsp; Ou=
r draft allows for this flexibility which can be used.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">2.&nbsp; Max LSP Bandwidth f=
ield definition can be taken from our doc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The priority handling can be=
 further simplified by merging slice info &amp; Min/Max fields in to a sing=
le sub-TLV if other authors agree.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Pl let me know.<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thx<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Rajan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">-----Original Message-----<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">From: Zhenghaomian [<a href=
=3D"mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-de=
coration:none">mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com</span></a>]
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Sent: Tuesday, December 16, =
2014 5:15 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">To: Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Cc: Khuzema Pithewan<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Subject: </span><span style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=B4=F0=B8=B4</span><span lang=3D"EN-=
US">: [CCAMP]
</span><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Hi, Rajan and Khuzema,<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks for reminding. Do you=
 guys have any suggestion on how to merge? Even if we think the current dra=
ft is self-contained, we are still open on this.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I know there are some differ=
ent ideas from Infinera, but sorry I am not fully understand every detail. =
Please let me know the exact section that need to be updated and let's see =
how to proceed. Again, this will finally
 be determined by the WG since already adopted. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Haomian<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">-----</span><span style=3D"f=
ont-family:MingLiU">=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">---=
--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=B7=A2=BC=FE=
=C8=CB</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infin=
era.com"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:rrao@=
infinera.com</span></a>]
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=B7=A2=CB=CD=
=CA=B1=BC=E4</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: 2014</span><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C4=EA</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">12</span><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=D4=C2</span><span lang=3D"EN=
-US">17</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C8=D5</spa=
n><span lang=3D"EN-US">
 6:01<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"=
>=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"=
>=B3=AD=CB=CD</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: Khuzema Pithewan<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"=
>=D6=F7</span><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=CC=E2</span><span lang=
=3D"EN-US">: RE: [CCAMP]
</span><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Haomian,<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">We had sent couple of emails=
 asking about merging the contents with our draft.&nbsp; Do you see an oppo=
rtunity or any issues with the merge?&nbsp; Can you pl respond on how you w=
ould like to proceed? Pl see the attached email
 we had sent a while back.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Rajan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">-----Original Message-----<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">From: CCAMP [<a href=3D"mail=
to:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:=
none">mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</span></a>] On Behalf Of Zhenghaomian<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Sent: Tuesday, December 16, =
2014 12:24 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">To: <a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@=
ietf.org"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">ccamp@ietf.=
org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Subject: [CCAMP] </span><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: I=
-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Dear CCAMPers,<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">We upload an updated version=
 to reactivate the following draft against expiration, together updating th=
e Max width issue proposed in previous discussions. Your comments are highl=
y welcomed, thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Haomian on behalf of authors=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">-----</span><span style=3D"f=
ont-family:MingLiU">=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">---=
--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=B7=A2=BC=FE=
=C8=CB</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: CCAMP [<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounces@=
ietf.org"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:ccam=
p-bounces@ietf.org</span></a>]
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=B4=FA=B1=ED</span=
> <span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org"><span st=
yle=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">internet-drafts@ietf.org</spa=
n></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=B7=A2=CB=CD=
=CA=B1=BC=E4</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: 2014</span><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C4=EA</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">12</span><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=D4=C2</span><span lang=3D"EN=
-US">16</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C8=D5</spa=
n><span lang=3D"EN-US">
 16:16<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"=
>=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">:
<a href=3D"mailto:i-d-announce@ietf.org"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;te=
xt-decoration:none">i-d-announce@ietf.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"=
>=B3=AD=CB=CD</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">:
<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-deco=
ration:none">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"=
>=D6=F7</span><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=CC=E2</span><span lang=
=3D"EN-US">: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01=
.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">A New Internet-Draft is avai=
lable from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">This draft is a work item of=
 the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF.<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; Title&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp; : GMPLS OSPF-TE Extensions in support of Flexible Grid<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; Authors&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : Xi=
an Zhang<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Haomian Zheng<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Ramon Casellas<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Daniele Ceccarelli<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Filename&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-=
01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : 2014-12-16<o:p></o:p=
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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Abstract:<o:p></o:p></span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; This memo descr=
ibes the OSPF-TE extensions in support of GMPLS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; control of netw=
orks that include devices that use the new flexible<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; optical grid.<o=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Hi Rajan,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">What you quoted from RFC4202 is specific for TDM (e.g., SDH), and=
 you can see there is no =A1=B0Minimum LSP Bandwidth=A1=B1 defined for the =
GMPLS protocol even for TDM, because =A1=B0Minimum LSP
 Bandwidth=A1=B1 is implicit and no need to carry this info in the protocol=
. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideog=
raph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Does th=
is make sense?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideog=
raph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideog=
raph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideog=
raph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Best Re=
gards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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raph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideog=
raph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Fatai<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Zhangxian (Xian)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 04, 2015 9:37 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; adrian@olddog.co.uk; 'CCAMP'; 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Iftekhar Hussain<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Hi, Rajan, all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">RFC4202 alone is indeed subject to yo=
ur interpretation since it describes the requirements in text. RFC4203 (the=
 OSPF extensions) &amp; RFC5307 (IS-IS one)
 are much more clear as they defines the fields/encoding, matching what is =
described in RFC4202.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">My 2cents,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Xian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailt=
o:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=
=CC=E5">=C4=EA</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">3</span><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D4=C2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">4</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=C8=
=D5</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 9:12<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk">adrian@olddog.co.uk</a>; =
Zhangxian (Xian); 'CCAMP'; 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Iftekhar Hussain<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Adrian,=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<pre style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color=
:#1F497D">Looks like there is different interpretation of RFC 4202 text.&nb=
sp; RFC 4202 text in sections 2.4.2 &amp; 2.4.3 &nbsp;says&nbsp; <o:p></o:p=
></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-=
size:9.0pt;color:#1F497D">=A1=B0=A1=AD..</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">an LS=
P at priority<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN-=
US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:bla=
ck">&nbsp; p could reserve any bandwidth between the Minimum LSP Bandwidth =
and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN-=
US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:bla=
ck">&nbsp;&nbsp; the Maximum LSP Bandwidth
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cou=
rier New&quot;;color:red">at priority p</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">, provid=
ed that the bandwidth=A1=AD..=A1=B1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Having =
only the Maximum LSP bandwidth field priority based &amp; not the Minimum L=
SP bandwidth field doesn=A1=AFt seem right. &nbsp;It is a simplification fo=
r sure.&nbsp; What is the correct interpretation of above
 text? &nbsp;Will be good to know. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Adrian Farrel [<a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk"=
>mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 03, 2015 7:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Zhangxian (Xian)'; Rajan Rao; 'CCAMP'; 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Iftekhar Hussain<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Hi,<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">[Speaki=
ng as a regular contributor which, praise be, I will in just three weeks' t=
ime. Not that I'm counting...]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">There i=
s some up-levelling to be done here.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan s=
eems to be proposing a new concept that would allow us to advertise not jus=
t the bandwidth available at each priority (per 4202) but also to vary the =
constraints on allocation per priority.
 This would allow us to say that priority x LSPs can only use chunks of ban=
dwidth between sizes a and b, while priority y LSPs can only chunks of band=
width between sizes c and d.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">I have =
three questions:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">- Is th=
is a valid thing to want to do in any technology?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">- Is it=
 something we want to do in Flexigrid?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">- Is it=
 something that should be generalised?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thanks,=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Adrian<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> CCAMP [<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org">mail=
to:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Zhangxian (Xian)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 03 March 2015 07:22<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.o=
rg</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Iftekhar Hussain<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#632423">Hi, Rajan,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailt=
o:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=
=CC=E5">=C4=EA</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">3</span><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D4=C2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">3</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=C8=
=D5</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 8:56<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp=
@ietf.org</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Xian,<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Minimum=
 LSP bandwidth will address technological advances. For e.g. tomorrow=A1=AF=
s 6.25GHz &nbsp;instead of today=A1=AFs 12.5GHz. GMPLS extensions should co=
ver the case of network having a mix of different hardware
 capabilities. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#632423">[Xian]: I agree with the above statements. But they are a propert=
y of an interface, which AFAIC does not change over time. That=A1=AFs why I=
 said it have already be covered by Section
 4.3 (please take a look if any information is missing as well). &nbsp;ISCD=
, especially SCSI is used to advertise the available bandwidth information =
and it is changing dynamically. So, I do not think SCSI is the right place =
to do so.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Adverti=
sing per priority aligns with RFC4202.&nbsp; I don=A1=AFt see any issues.</=
span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#632423"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#632423">[Xian] I have to disagree.&nbsp; &nbsp;RFC4202 does not support a=
dvertising min LSP bandwidth per priority. Please take a look at the encodi=
ng of Section 1.4. of RFC4203. What=A1=AFs said there:
 for PSC and TDM, you carry ONE minimum LSP bandwidth information (which is=
 not associated per priority); for Lambda switching, it does not have any S=
CSI at all.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#632423"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#632423">Having said all these, I personally do not think the value of adv=
ertising min LSP bandwidth per priority. If you disagree again, could you g=
ive me an usage example?&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">As far =
as Maximum LSP bandwidth goes, either option would work but my preference w=
ould be to put it in technology specific part (SCSI).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#632423">[Xian]: point taken. I agree with you that both work but I would =
prefer to take Option 1. Let=A1=AFs get a bit more feedback from the WG bef=
ore updating the draft.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#632423"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#632423">Regards,<br>
Xian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhangxian (Xian) [<a href=3D"mailto:zhang.xian@huawei=
.com">mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.o=
rg</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Hi, Rajan, all,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;=A1=B0</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"color:#1F497D">Min &amp; Max slot=A1=B1 you mentioned below is a b=
it mis-leading. I think you wanted to say =A1=B0Min &amp; Max LSP bandwidth=
=A1=B1. Let talk them
 one by one since we are not aligned yet on both. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Why do we need to advertise Min LSP bandwidth =
per priority in ISCD, e.g., a request cannot set up a LSP smaller than X GH=
z and it varies per priority? If you&nbsp; meant to say the interface limit=
ation,
 it is covered in Section 4.3 already. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;As for the Max LSP bandwidth information, I agree w=
ith you that RFC4204 has this requirement. This draft (draft-ietf-ccamp-fle=
xible-grid-ospf-ext-01) needs to be updated to reflect this. I
 can think of two options: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Option =
A: use the existing fields (MAX LSP Bandwidth at priority x, x=3D0-7) &nbsp=
;in the ISCD (defined in Section 1.4. of RFC4203). The point that we need t=
o update is the unit to be usable in the context
 of Flexi-grid. It will be Hz not byte per second.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Option =
B: We add the max LSP bandwidth field (16 bit) in the Available Labels Fiel=
d by using the Reserved field. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp; Which option does the WG prefer?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Regards=
,<br>
Xian</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailt=
o:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=
=CC=E5">=C4=EA</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2</span><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D4=C2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">28</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=C8=
=D5</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 2:51<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp=
@ietf.org</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Xian, a=
ll<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Section=
 4.3 is trying to use port label restrictions sub-TLV with a new restrictio=
n type.&nbsp; This is fine.&nbsp; But how does a path computing node determ=
ine if it can use the link to setup an LSP with
 N-slots @ priority =A1=AEp=A1=AF?&nbsp; &nbsp;For e.g&nbsp; I don=A1=AFt w=
ant to allow priority 7 LSPs to use bandwidth greater than 20 slots on the =
link but allow for LSPs with priority 0, 1 &amp; 2.&nbsp; Where is this inf=
o in the TLV?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">We had =
given examples when we presented our draft in Taipei IETF-82. &nbsp;Ref sli=
des 8 &amp; 10 (link below).&nbsp; We had coverage for advertisement of&nbs=
p; Min &amp; Max slot widths per priority. This is meant to align
 with RFC 4202.&nbsp; I believe WG doc lacks this and needs to address.<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><a href=
=3D"http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/ccamp-18.pdf">http://www.ietf=
.org/proceedings/82/slides/ccamp-18.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">thx<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhangxian (Xian) [<a href=3D"mailto:zhang.xian@huawei=
.com">mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 26, 2015 5:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.o=
rg</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:black">Hi, Rajan and all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Thank you for your clarification and I =
now fully understand your question. I think you have misunderstood Section =
4.3. of this draft. It was not to describe
 dynamic Max &amp; Min LSP bandwidth but rather the capability/constraint a=
ssociated with an port, which rarely change over time.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:10.5pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Isn=A1=AFt information per priority al=
ready supported? Quoting text from the drafts referred:<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<pre style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-=
size:10.5pt;color:black">=A1=B0</span><span lang=3D"EN" style=3D"font-size:=
8.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">The technology specific part of the WSON IS=
CD may include a variable<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN" style=
=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">&nbsp;&nbsp; number of sub-TL=
Vs called Bandwidth sub-TLVs.</span><span style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-fam=
ily:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=A1=B1</span><span lang=3D"EN" style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;f=
ont-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN" style=
=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">As for the Mix and Max LSP bandwidth, c=
ould you give me an example of what you said below, i.e.,=A1=B0Availability=
 of&nbsp; =A1=AEN=A1=AF consecutive labels doesn=A1=AFt mean you
 can setup an LSP with a size of =A1=AEN=A1=AF=A1=B1? <o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;What does the WG think of the issue under discus=
sion?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Xian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailt=
o:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=
=CC=E5">=C4=EA</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2</span><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D4=C2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">27</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=C8=
=D5</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 4:03<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp=
@ietf.org</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Xian,<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">I under=
stand this doc is trying to reuse
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">GEN-EN=
CODE &amp; there is support for priority. &nbsp;I am not referring to this =
one. &nbsp;The Min Width &amp; Max &nbsp;Width fields do exist in the draft=
 but these alone are not sufficient. We need info per priority
 for the following reason.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">The intent of Min &amp; Max width info is to specify what is the =
Minimum/Maximum LSP bandwidth an LSP could reserve at a given priority =A1=
=AEp=A1=AF on the link.&nbsp; You can draw parallel to =A1=AEMinimum
 LSP Bandwidth=A1=AF &amp; =A1=AEMaximum LSP Bandwidth=A1=AF fields in RFC =
4202.&nbsp; &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">I don=A1=AFt understand how you can derive this from label set fi=
eld.&nbsp; &nbsp;Availability of&nbsp; =A1=AEN=A1=AF consecutive labels doe=
sn=A1=AFt mean you can setup an LSP with a size of =A1=AEN=A1=AF.&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Thx<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Rajan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhangxian (Xian) [<a href=3D"mailto:zhang.xian@huawei=
.com">mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 25, 2015 5:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.o=
rg</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Hi, Rajan,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; As I was not involved earlier, I find the foll=
owing may be &nbsp;a bit long for others in the WG to get involved. &nbsp;B=
efore I dive into the discussion and share my thoughts, am I accurate
 if I recap the question as:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:5.25pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp; You think the existing =
text in draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01 do not support the follo=
wing:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:23.25pt;text-indent:-18.=
0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Do not support priority;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:23.25pt;text-indent:-18.=
0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Do not convey the min &amp; max LSP bandwidth information=
 in the SCSI field;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Could you confirm my interpretation of your issue?<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">The following is my thoughts ( subject to change if the question =
I recapped above is not as exact as what you want to say):<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">The&nbsp; current method is to reuse what has already been propos=
ed for WSON. So it reuses the SCSI field defined in WSON-OSPF draft (<a hre=
f=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility=
-ospf-15#section-3.1">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-sig=
nal-compatibility-ospf-15#section-3.1</a>).
 So, it DOES support priority (see the details are in [GEN-ENCODE] draft-ie=
tf-ccamp-general-constraint-encode-20). Exactly because of the same reason,=
 the draft under discussion uses label set field to describe what frequency=
 slots are available. So, although
 it allows for all different varieties supported by [GEN-ENCODE] (i.e., lis=
t, bitmap, inclusive, exclusive etc.), the method does not see the need of =
specify the max&amp;min LSP bandwidth since it can be naturally deduced fro=
m the available frequency spectrum information
 conveyed. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">The above discussion actually reminds me of a question Ramon rais=
ed up a while ago among the authors of this draft, what has been defined in=
 WSON-OSPF is truly usable labels in signaling.
 But with Flexi-grid, it is not true anymore. For example, although we use =
Inclusive Label Range to describe available frequency range, say the exampl=
e in Section 4.4 of &nbsp;draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01 (assum=
e m=3D1), none of these labels are directly
 usable if what is actually requested is a bandwidth with m=3D2. &nbsp;I my=
self do not see any issue as long as we make it clear we use the format jus=
t to describe what resource available NOT usable labels. Since it is a WG d=
raft, it is worthwhile to solicit what
 you think?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Cheers,<br>
Xian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailt=
o:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=
=CC=E5">=C4=EA</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2</span><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D4=C2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">26</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=C8=
=D5</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 7:17<br>
<b>To:</b> Daniele Ceccarelli; Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang; CCAMP (<a href=3D=
"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a>)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Ramon Case=
llas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Actio=
n: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Daniele=
,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Sure.&n=
bsp; Added WG in the list for comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan&n=
bsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Daniele Ceccarelli [<a href=3D"mailto:daniele.ceccare=
lli@ericsson.com">mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Ramon Case=
llas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Actio=
n: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Hi all,=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">This is=
 a really interesting discussion and since we=A1=AFre speaking about a work=
ing group draft I think we should continue con the mailing list.<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Please =
include the WG in your reply.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">BR<br>
Daniele<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailt=
o:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> mercoled=A8=AC 25 febbraio 2015 19:56<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Daniele Ce=
ccarelli; Ramon Casellas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Actio=
n: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Haomian=
,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">The pri=
ority in each layer is independent. &nbsp;The intent of explicitly carrying=
 priority info in the advertisement is to allow for LSP creation at differe=
nt priorities.&nbsp; Note that priority defined
 in OTN RFC don=A1=AFt apply here as it is a different layer. &nbsp;&nbsp;Y=
ou can have L0-LSP setup at priority-1 but L1-Telink (OTN link) formed out =
of this may advertise all 8 or subset of them. &nbsp;It is an implementatio=
n choice.&nbsp; I don=A1=AFt see any conflicts here.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Once we=
 agree on the following items we can figure out TLV encoding options.<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><span sty=
le=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&qu=
ot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"=
>Allow for Advertisement of Min &amp; Max slot widths at different prioriti=
es =A8C up to 8<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><span sty=
le=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&qu=
ot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"=
>Min/Max slot width field =A8C 16 bit instead of 8&nbsp; (I see you are agr=
eeing to this change below)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><span sty=
le=3D"mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&qu=
ot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"=
>Max LSP Bandwidth =A8C this was debated in previous meetings but no firm c=
onclusion.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&=
nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhenghaomian [<a href=3D"mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.c=
om">mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 24, 2015 11:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Daniele Ce=
ccarelli; Ramon Casellas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<br>
<b>Subject:</b> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=
=CC=E5">=B4=F0=B8=B4</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: [CCAMP]
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D7=AA=B7=
=A2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexibl=
e-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Hi, Rajan,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Thanks for the information, I noticed there is a change talking a=
bout extending Flexi-grid data plan to satisfy requirements in RFC4202. I f=
orward this email to all the authors of
 OSPF draft to advertise your comments</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"=
font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"> &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Firstly let=A1=AFs recall the sub-TLV format in draft-dhillon-cca=
mp-flexgrid-ospfte-ext as follow:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;
<a name=3D"section-0">0</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;3<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 =
2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-=
&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#4=
3;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-=
&#43;-&#43;-&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Type=3D1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Length&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-------------------------=
--------------------------------------&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |Slice Spacing | Pri |&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Reserved&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-------------------------=
--------------------------------------&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; N-Start&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Num of Slices&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-------------------------=
--------------------------------------&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Min Slot Width&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Max Slot Width&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-------------------------=
--------------------------------------&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; | &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;Bit-Map showing Available Slices&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (up to 48 bytes)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-f=
amily:=CB=CE=CC=E5;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-=
&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#4=
3;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-=
&#43;-&#43;-&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Then I share my understanding on your concern. Compared with sub-=
TLV in section 4.3 of draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01, I highlig=
ht the difference as follow:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">In your proposal,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Slice Spacing is preferred to be carried in the &nbsp;sub=
-TLV;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Priority bits are preferred to be included in sub-TLV;<o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">3)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Min/Max Widths should both be 16-bit;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">4)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">N-start and Num of Slices to represent the spectrum rathe=
r than C.F.G and S.W.G;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Below please find my comments:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Firstly I believe both of your structure and the current structur=
e in WG draft are satisfying the requirement of flexi-grid FWK draft (the i=
nfo model in Fig. 17). We only need to
 deal with some differences in representation format, and some additional i=
nformation may be useful.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Different slice spacing is applicable but may not be nece=
ssary; the spirit to introduce flexible grid is to allow flexibility in spe=
ctrum allocation and current WG draft
 can satisfy the requirement. Not much further advantage for using slice sp=
acing;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Priority bits: I agree that it is widely used, I am basic=
ally fine to include priority bits in the sub-TLV. My only concern is, ther=
e are also such priority information
 in other place (for example OTN BW sub-TLV in Section 4.1.3 in RFC7138), d=
o we need to repeat here? What is the relationship if we have two prioritie=
s? Is it possible the OTN priority is not consistent with flexi-grid priori=
ty? Why? And How to deal with this?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">3)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Agreed, will change both the min/max widths to 16-bit in =
the next version;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">4)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;color:#1F497D">Personally I don=A1=AFt think it=A1=AFs necessary to chan=
ge the current WG draft: I think your proposed representation can have equi=
valent result as the one in current WG draft;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Rajan, please correct me if there is misunderstanding, also let m=
e know if you have other comments.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">All, please feel free to comments, or we move to the list if nece=
ssary</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Wing=
dings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt=
;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Haomian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=
=CE=CC=E5">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5"> Rajan R=
ao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
</span><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=B7=A2=
=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></span></b><span lang=3D"EN-=
US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5"> 2015</span><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=C4=EA<span lang=3D"EN-U=
S">2</span>=D4=C2<span lang=3D"EN-US">24</span>=C8=D5<span lang=3D"EN-US">
 4:03<br>
</span><b>=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></b><span lang=3D"=
EN-US"> Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<br>
</span><b>=B3=AD=CB=CD<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain<br>
</span><b>=D6=F7=CC=E2<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
> RE: [CCAMP] </span>
=D7=AA=B7=A2<span lang=3D"EN-US">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-gr=
id-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Haomian=
,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">The Fle=
xgrid FWK doc has been updated with reference to RFC4202. &nbsp;&nbsp;This =
should address the comment you had in the earlier email.&nbsp; Pl refer to =
updated doc (attached email from Ramon). &nbsp;Pl let us know
 how you would like to proceed. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">FWK doc=
 Snip below:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">5.1.2.&nbsp; Routing<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; The routing protoc=
ol will support all functions as described in<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; [RFC4202] and exte=
nd them to a flexi-grid data plane.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 03, 2015 2:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:=CB=CE=CC=E5">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Actio=
n: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Haom=
ian,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx =
for the reply. Pl see below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">-----Original Message-----<b=
r>
From: Zhenghaomian [<a href=3D"mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com">mailto:zheng=
haomian@huawei.com</a>]
<br>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 11:22 PM<br>
To: Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang<br>
Cc: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain<br>
Subject: </span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=B4=F0=B8=
=B4</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: [CCAMP]
</span><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Hi, Rajan,<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Firstly sorry for the very l=
ate response.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">For your first concern, I se=
e some difference in TLVs about priority issue (Table I in your draft). I t=
hink I understand your description but I didn't find very much advantage to=
 include such 'scalable' settings.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black"><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">RR&g=
t;&gt; Priority based advertisement is pretty standard mechanism used in al=
l existing RFCs.&nbsp; For e.g. you can find these in WSON, OTN&nbsp; docs =
and any other Te-extensions draft.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Another concern from me is, =
for the flexi-grid literature, there are more than one WG draft, I think it=
's better to consider such case in fwk draft, and after that the OSPF one c=
an revise accordingly. P.S, I don't
 know whether this topic was discussed on the list before (perhaps there ar=
e some conclusions, let me know). If not, I would like to suggest move to t=
he list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">RR&g=
t;&gt; I looked at framework.&nbsp; Yes, it doesn=A1=AFt talk about priorit=
y based advertisement.&nbsp; Thanks for pointing this out. Good catch. We w=
ill provide this comment to FWK authors &amp; CC you.&nbsp; I do not
 see any issue updating the fwk doc with this detail. &nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">For your second concern on M=
ax LSP Bandwidth, my understanding is you are trying to use the description=
 in section 3.2 of your draft to replace the one in section 4.3 of current =
WG draft. Is this true? I believe the
 description in your draft is clear and correct. BTW, I noticed bit differe=
nce in Min Bandwidth (16 bits allocated in your draft and 8 bit in current =
WG draft), hopefully this will not be a big issue (8 bit support a bandwidt=
h up to 3200GHz, which is absolutely
 more than the normal requirement for a minimal BW).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">RR&g=
t;&gt; &nbsp;Yes, I was referring to section 3.2 in our draft.&nbsp; &nbsp;=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">We w=
ent with 16-bit fields for Min &amp; Max fields as the values for these fie=
lds range from 0 =A8C 384.&nbsp; We tried to address the case of using full=
 spectrum BW as one LSP.&nbsp; This is an extreme case
 but can=A1=AFt be ruled out.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Pl l=
et me know if you have any other comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Haomian<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">-----</span><span style=3D"f=
ont-family:MingLiU">=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">---=
--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=B7=A2=BC=FE=
=C8=CB</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infin=
era.com"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:rrao@=
infinera.com</span></a>]
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=B7=A2=CB=CD=
=CA=B1=BC=E4</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: 2014</span><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C4=EA</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">12</span><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=D4=C2</span><span lang=3D"EN=
-US">18</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C8=D5</spa=
n><span lang=3D"EN-US">
 6:09<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"=
>=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"=
>=B3=AD=CB=CD</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussa=
in<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"=
>=D6=F7</span><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=CC=E2</span><span lang=
=3D"EN-US">: RE: [CCAMP]
</span><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Haomian,<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">As I had mentioned we are no=
 longer pushing for SuperChannel in the draft.&nbsp; So, this should make i=
t easier to merge the docs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">In my view there are couple =
of areas your draft doesn't address which can be taken from our draft:<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">1.&nbsp; You have separated =
Max &amp; Min Slot width in Port Label restriction sub-TLV.&nbsp; This is O=
.K. But this doesn't allow for priority based Min/Max usage.&nbsp;&nbsp; Ou=
r draft allows for this flexibility which can be used.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">2.&nbsp; Max LSP Bandwidth f=
ield definition can be taken from our doc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The priority handling can be=
 further simplified by merging slice info &amp; Min/Max fields in to a sing=
le sub-TLV if other authors agree.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Pl let me know.<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thx<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Rajan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">-----Original Message-----<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">From: Zhenghaomian [<a href=
=3D"mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-de=
coration:none">mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com</span></a>]
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Sent: Tuesday, December 16, =
2014 5:15 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">To: Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Cc: Khuzema Pithewan<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Subject: </span><span style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=B4=F0=B8=B4</span><span lang=3D"EN-=
US">: [CCAMP]
</span><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Hi, Rajan and Khuzema,<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks for reminding. Do you=
 guys have any suggestion on how to merge? Even if we think the current dra=
ft is self-contained, we are still open on this.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I know there are some differ=
ent ideas from Infinera, but sorry I am not fully understand every detail. =
Please let me know the exact section that need to be updated and let's see =
how to proceed. Again, this will finally
 be determined by the WG since already adopted. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Haomian<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">-----</span><span style=3D"f=
ont-family:MingLiU">=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">---=
--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=B7=A2=BC=FE=
=C8=CB</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infin=
era.com"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:rrao@=
infinera.com</span></a>]
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=B7=A2=CB=CD=
=CA=B1=BC=E4</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: 2014</span><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C4=EA</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">12</span><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=D4=C2</span><span lang=3D"EN=
-US">17</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C8=D5</spa=
n><span lang=3D"EN-US">
 6:01<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"=
>=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"=
>=B3=AD=CB=CD</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: Khuzema Pithewan<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"=
>=D6=F7</span><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=CC=E2</span><span lang=
=3D"EN-US">: RE: [CCAMP]
</span><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Haomian,<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">We had sent couple of emails=
 asking about merging the contents with our draft.&nbsp; Do you see an oppo=
rtunity or any issues with the merge?&nbsp; Can you pl respond on how you w=
ould like to proceed? Pl see the attached email
 we had sent a while back.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Rajan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">-----Original Message-----<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">From: CCAMP [<a href=3D"mail=
to:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:=
none">mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</span></a>] On Behalf Of Zhenghaomian<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Sent: Tuesday, December 16, =
2014 12:24 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">To: <a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@=
ietf.org"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">ccamp@ietf.=
org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Subject: [CCAMP] </span><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: I=
-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Dear CCAMPers,<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">We upload an updated version=
 to reactivate the following draft against expiration, together updating th=
e Max width issue proposed in previous discussions. Your comments are highl=
y welcomed, thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Haomian on behalf of authors=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">-----</span><span style=3D"f=
ont-family:MingLiU">=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">---=
--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=B7=A2=BC=FE=
=C8=CB</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">: CCAMP [<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounces@=
ietf.org"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:ccam=
p-bounces@ietf.org</span></a>]
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=B4=FA=B1=ED</span=
> <span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org"><span st=
yle=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">internet-drafts@ietf.org</spa=
n></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=B7=A2=CB=CD=
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=3D"EN-US">: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01=
.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; Title&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp; : GMPLS OSPF-TE Extensions in support of Flexible Grid<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; Authors&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : Xi=
an Zhang<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Haomian Zheng<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Ramon Casellas<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
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p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Daniele Ceccarelli<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Filename&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-=
01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Pages&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : 14<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Date&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : 2014-12-16<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Abstract:<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; This memo descr=
ibes the OSPF-TE extensions in support of GMPLS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; control of netw=
orks that include devices that use the new flexible<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; optical grid.<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The IETF datatracker status =
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El 04/03/2015 a las 2:11, Rajan Rao escribió:
>
> Adrian,
>
> Looks like there is different interpretation of RFC 4202 text.  RFC 4202 text in sections 2.4.2 & 2.4.3  says
> “…..an LSP at priority
>
>   p could reserve any bandwidth between the Minimum LSP Bandwidth and
>
>    the Maximum LSP Bandwidth at priority p, provided that the 
> bandwidth…..”
>
> Having only the Maximum LSP bandwidth field priority based & not the 
> Minimum LSP bandwidth field doesn’t seem right.  It is a 
> simplification for sure.  What is the correct interpretation of above 
> text?  Will be good to know.
>

Rajan, all

It is a good question, and in my humble opinion, there are different 
things (echoing Adrian's questions):

i) Whether RFC4202 text could imply that Minimum LSP bandwidth is a 
function of priority (p)

ii) The need for a priority-dependent Minimum LSP bandwidth (and, in 
particular, for flexi-grid networks) in view of the requirements of 
preemption, resource usage, etc. This is to me the most important point.

iii) The actual encoding (in terms of "m" or Hz, in the ISCD SCSI ...)

For ii) it would be good to clearly agree on the requirement (let's 
stick to current in-force grid definitions). Personally, I see that 
higher priorities are allowed higher values of Max LSP bandwidth, but 
when would you need that a lower priority LSP is allowed a lower minimum 
value (or, similiarly, why would I constraint high priority LSPs to not 
use lower LSP bandwidths?). I have no objection to work on iii) if ii) 
is clear.


Although IMHO not critical, for i) It is my understanding that the 
minimum LSP bandwidth is unique across priorities, and only the Maximum 
LSP bandwidth depends on the priority. RFC4202
- An interface may have more than one Interface Switching Capability 
Descriptor.  This is used to handle interfaces that support multiple 
switching capabilities, for interfaces that have Max LSP Bandwidth 
values that differ by priority level, and for interfaces that support  
discrete bandwidths. // Only Max is mentioned
- For a simple (unbundled) link, the Maximum LSP Bandwidth at priority p 
is defined to be (...) // there is no such definition for minimum "at 
priority p".
- The Minimum LSP Bandwidth specifies the minimum bandwidth an LSP could 
reserve // it does not mention "at priority p" and is ISCD specific.
- an LSP at  priority p could reserve any bandwidth (...) by the Minimum 
LSP Bandwidth and the Maximum LSP Bandwidth at priority p. // It is my 
understanding that Minimum LSP Bandwidth refers to the actual definition 
in point 2, i.e., bw(p) = [min_lsp_bw, max_lsp_bw(p)]
- Actual OSPF-TE extensions (e.g. for PSC) where min_lsp_bw is unique.



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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Adrian,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <pre style="page-break-before:always"><span style="color:#1F497D">Looks like there is different interpretation of RFC 4202 text.  RFC 4202 text in sections 2.4.2 &amp; 2.4.3  says  <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
        <pre style="page-break-before:always"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#1F497D">“…..</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">an LSP at priority<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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            p</span><span
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Having only the
            Maximum LSP bandwidth field priority based &amp; not the
            Minimum LSP bandwidth field doesn’t seem right.  It is a
            simplification for sure.  What is the correct interpretation
            of above text?  Will be good to know. </span></p>
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    <br>
    Rajan, all<br>
    <br>
    It is a good question, and in my humble opinion, there are different
    things (echoing Adrian's questions):<br>
    <br>
    i) Whether RFC4202 text could imply that Minimum LSP bandwidth is a
    function of priority (p)<br>
    <br>
    ii) The need for a priority-dependent Minimum LSP bandwidth (and, in
    particular, for flexi-grid networks) in view of the requirements of
    preemption, resource usage, etc. This is to me the most important
    point.<br>
    <br>
    iii) The actual encoding (in terms of "m" or Hz, in the ISCD SCSI
    ...)<br>
    <br>
    For ii) it would be good to clearly agree on the requirement (let's
    stick to current in-force grid definitions). Personally, I see that
    higher priorities are allowed higher values of Max LSP bandwidth,
    but when would you need that a lower priority LSP is allowed a lower
    minimum value (or, similiarly, why would I constraint high priority
    LSPs to not use lower LSP bandwidths?). I have no objection to work
    on iii) if ii) is clear.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    Although IMHO not critical, for i) It is my understanding that the
    minimum LSP bandwidth is unique across priorities, and only the
    Maximum LSP bandwidth depends on the priority. RFC4202<br>
    - An interface may have more than one Interface Switching Capability
    Descriptor.  This is used to handle interfaces that support multiple
    switching capabilities, for interfaces that have Max LSP Bandwidth 
    values that differ by priority level, and for interfaces that
    support  discrete bandwidths. // Only Max is mentioned<br>
    - For a simple (unbundled) link, the Maximum LSP Bandwidth at
    priority p is defined to be (...) // there is no such definition for
    minimum "at priority p".<br>
    - The Minimum LSP Bandwidth specifies the minimum bandwidth an LSP
    could reserve // it does not mention "at priority p" and is ISCD
    specific.<br>
    - an LSP at  priority p could reserve any bandwidth (...) by the
    Minimum LSP Bandwidth and the Maximum LSP Bandwidth at priority p.
    // It is my understanding that Minimum LSP Bandwidth refers to the
    actual definition in point 2, i.e., bw(p) = [min_lsp_bw,
    max_lsp_bw(p)]<br>
    - Actual OSPF-TE extensions (e.g. for PSC) where min_lsp_bw is
    unique.<br>
    <br>
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El 04/03/2015 a las 12:00, Daniele Ceccarelli escribió:
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> Ramon, Adrian, all,
>
> I am wondering whether we’re mixing bandwidth and frequency (spectrum).
>
hi Daniele, all

It is my understanding (although through abuse of language it may seem 
otherwise) that the following was implied/implicit:  past discussions on 
flex-grid refer to the flexi-grid media layer, where the controlled 
resource is the optical spectrum, allocated in terms of frequency slot 
(widths) and with applicable units (Hz); that the use of the term 
"bandwidth" is to be taken in this context with a big grain of salt 
(i.e. no such concept directly applies given the a-priori-unknown 
modulation format spectral efficiency). IOW, when we were discussing 
about "bandwidth" be in terms of "Maximum LSP Bandwidth , Minimum LSP 
Bandwidth" (and referring to terms used in existing docs) -- the actual 
underlying "concept" still applies and related to e.g. TSPEC, FLOW in 
terms of "m"s. Sorry if it looked otherwise/confusing.

Maybe to avoid confusion it is worth to clearly state "Minimum LSP 
Frequency Slot Width" and "Maximum LSP Frequency Slot Width at priority p"
Thanks
Ramon

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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I am wondering
            whether we’re mixing bandwidth and frequency (spectrum).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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    hi Daniele, all<br>
    <br>
    It is my understanding (although through abuse of language it may
    seem otherwise) that the following was implied/implicit:  past
    discussions on flex-grid refer to the flexi-grid media layer, where
    the controlled resource is the optical spectrum, allocated in terms
    of frequency slot (widths) and with applicable units (Hz); that the
    use of the term "bandwidth" is to be taken in this context with a
    big grain of salt (i.e. no such concept directly applies given the
    a-priori-unknown modulation format spectral efficiency). IOW, when
    we were discussing about "bandwidth" be in terms of "Maximum LSP
    Bandwidth , Minimum LSP Bandwidth" (and referring to terms used in
    existing docs) -- the actual underlying "concept" still applies and
    related to e.g. TSPEC, FLOW in terms of "m"s. Sorry if it looked
    otherwise/confusing.<br>
    <br>
    Maybe to avoid confusion it is worth to clearly state "Minimum LSP
    Frequency Slot Width" and "Maximum LSP Frequency Slot Width at
    priority p" <br>
    Thanks<br>
    Ramon
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Daniele,

On 3/4/2015 6:53 AM, Daniele Ceccarelli wrote:
>
> Hi Ramon,
>
>  
>
> Yes, I think that was implicitly clear. BTW just to be sure, let’s
> call it frequency slot slot width, chunck of spectrum or water…just to
> make it explicit.
>
>  
>
> My point regards the quote of RFC4202 and RFC4203 where bandwidth
> means bandwidth and not portions of the spectrum.
>
>  
>

I'm not sure what you mean.  In the generic portion of the
advertisements defined in 4202/3, the available lambdas/timeslots/etc
(and perhaps now spectrum) have always been advertised as aggregate BW.  

Lou

> Daniele
>



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Hi Lou,

Section 2.4.4 of RFC4202 says:

   The additional information includes Reservable Bandwidth per
   priority, which specifies the bandwidth of an LSP that could be
   supported by the interface at a given priority number.

And 3.7, for example, says:

      Interface Switching Capability Descriptor:
         Interface Switching Capability =3D LSC
         Encoding =3D Lambda (photonic)
         Reservable Bandwidth =3D Determined by optical technology limits

It is all about the bitrate of a lambda, not the amount of spectrum that a =
lambda can take. I think these are two different dimensions on the problem.=
 Aren't they?
I would say that RFC4202 comes into play when we speak about the signal lay=
er rather than the media layer.

Daniele


> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: mercoled=EC 4 marzo 2015 13:08
> To: Daniele Ceccarelli; Ramon Casellas; Rajan Rao; adrian@olddog.co.uk;
> 'Zhangxian (Xian)'; 'CCAMP'
> Cc: Iftekhar Hussain
> Subject: Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-
> 01.txt
>=20
> Daniele,
>=20
> On 3/4/2015 6:53 AM, Daniele Ceccarelli wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ramon,
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, I think that was implicitly clear. BTW just to be sure, let's
> > call it frequency slot slot width, chunck of spectrum or water.just to
> > make it explicit.
> >
> >
> >
> > My point regards the quote of RFC4202 and RFC4203 where bandwidth
> > means bandwidth and not portions of the spectrum.
> >
> >
> >
>=20
> I'm not sure what you mean.  In the generic portion of the advertisements
> defined in 4202/3, the available lambdas/timeslots/etc (and perhaps now
> spectrum) have always been advertised as aggregate BW.
>=20
> Lou
>=20
> > Daniele
> >
>=20


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    <font face="Tahoma">Hi all,<br>
      <br>
      it looks like we fell into the bandwidth ambiguity trap - see:
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwidth_%28disambiguation%29">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwidth_%28disambiguation%29</a><br>
    </font><br>
    In the flex frid context we are certainly in the signal processing
    ("good old analog") world where bandwidth is measured in Hz.<br>
    <br>
    When we talk about the bitrate of the digital  information carried
    by a modulated optical carrier we are in the computing world<br>
    where bandwidth is measured in bit/s.<br>
    <br>
    I hope this helps.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    Thanks,<br>
    Dieter<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04.03.2015 13:23, Daniele Ceccarelli
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
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cite="mid:4A1562797D64E44993C5CBF38CF1BE481288D96B@ESESSMB301.ericsson.se"
      type="cite">
      <pre wrap="">Hi Lou,

Section 2.4.4 of RFC4202 says:

   The additional information includes Reservable Bandwidth per
   priority, which specifies the bandwidth of an LSP that could be
   supported by the interface at a given priority number.

And 3.7, for example, says:

      Interface Switching Capability Descriptor:
         Interface Switching Capability = LSC
         Encoding = Lambda (photonic)
         Reservable Bandwidth = Determined by optical technology limits

It is all about the bitrate of a lambda, not the amount of spectrum that a lambda can take. I think these are two different dimensions on the problem. Aren't they?
I would say that RFC4202 comes into play when we speak about the signal layer rather than the media layer.

Daniele


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From: Lou Berger [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:lberger@labn.net">mailto:lberger@labn.net</a>]
Sent: mercoledì 4 marzo 2015 13:08
To: Daniele Ceccarelli; Ramon Casellas; Rajan Rao; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk">adrian@olddog.co.uk</a>;
'Zhangxian (Xian)'; 'CCAMP'
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Subject: Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-
01.txt

Daniele,

On 3/4/2015 6:53 AM, Daniele Ceccarelli wrote:
</pre>
        <blockquote type="cite">
          <pre wrap="">
Hi Ramon,



Yes, I think that was implicitly clear. BTW just to be sure, let's
call it frequency slot slot width, chunck of spectrum or water.just to
make it explicit.



My point regards the quote of RFC4202 and RFC4203 where bandwidth
means bandwidth and not portions of the spectrum.



</pre>
        </blockquote>
        <pre wrap="">
I'm not sure what you mean.  In the generic portion of the advertisements
defined in 4202/3, the available lambdas/timeslots/etc (and perhaps now
spectrum) have always been advertised as aggregate BW.

Lou

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          <pre wrap="">Daniele

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On 03/04/2015 07:23 AM, Daniele Ceccarelli wrote:
> Hi Lou,
> 
> Section 2.4.4 of RFC4202 says:
> 
>    The additional information includes Reservable Bandwidth per
>    priority, which specifies the bandwidth of an LSP that could be
>    supported by the interface at a given priority number.
> 
> And 3.7, for example, says:
> 
>       Interface Switching Capability Descriptor:
>          Interface Switching Capability = LSC
>          Encoding = Lambda (photonic)
>          Reservable Bandwidth = Determined by optical technology limits
> 
> It is all about the bitrate of a lambda, not the amount of spectrum that a lambda can take. I think these are two different dimensions on the problem. Aren't they?
> I would say that RFC4202 comes into play when we speak about the signal layer rather than the media layer.
> 

I think we've been here before.  Consider the cases of waveband switches
or mems+awg, both of which switched/covered ranges of the spectrum...

Lou

> Daniele
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net]
>> Sent: mercoledì 4 marzo 2015 13:08
>> To: Daniele Ceccarelli; Ramon Casellas; Rajan Rao; adrian@olddog.co.uk;
>> 'Zhangxian (Xian)'; 'CCAMP'
>> Cc: Iftekhar Hussain
>> Subject: Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-
>> 01.txt
>>
>> Daniele,
>>
>> On 3/4/2015 6:53 AM, Daniele Ceccarelli wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Ramon,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, I think that was implicitly clear. BTW just to be sure, let's
>>> call it frequency slot slot width, chunck of spectrum or water.just to
>>> make it explicit.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My point regards the quote of RFC4202 and RFC4203 where bandwidth
>>> means bandwidth and not portions of the spectrum.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I'm not sure what you mean.  In the generic portion of the advertisements
>> defined in 4202/3, the available lambdas/timeslots/etc (and perhaps now
>> spectrum) have always been advertised as aggregate BW.
>>
>> Lou
>>
>>> Daniele
>>>
>>
> 
> 


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[Using explicit addresses because the tools aliases are currently unreliable]

Authors,

I've done my usual AD review of your document (the nth in the sequence 
of n+1 WSON drafts!). I have a few comments, and normally I would ask
you for a new revision at once, but because of dates and things I am
going to start the IETF last call and enter these as last call comments.

The last call will end on 3/18 and you can post a new revision then (by
sending it to me to ask the Secretary to post it) or wait to post it
yourselves when the gates reopen on 3/23.

Thanks for the work,
Adrian

===

You need to split the Authors' Addresses section and move out all those
not on the current front page to be present in a Contributors section.

---

You seem to have the name of RFC 6205 in the references section a bit
wrong!

---
                                              
Do you really mean that you are updating 6205? That is the document
that defines lambda labels.

It has no mention of G.709 despite what you say in the Abstract. This
seems a little odd.                          

What is more, I don't see any discussion of updates to the label format
or usage in the document although Section 4 does say

   [RFC6205] defines the label format as applicable to LSC capable
   device. This document extends [RFC6205] as make its label format
   applicable also to WSON-LSC capable devices.

I don't think that applying the label to WSON without changing its
meaning or the way it is used is really an "update".

---

Section 2 has FOADM, but it is not used in the document.

You need to hyphenate "Cross Connect" unless you are really angry :-)

---

Section 3 gives a caption to a list

    List 1. WSON Signal Characteristics

I've not seen that before in an I-D, and since you don't refer to the 
list by name, I suggest you just delete this.

---

I wish you hadn't suggested explicit values for the two new Error Codes
in 4.2.2 and 6. But we'll see what IANA says during IETF last call.


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The IESG has received a request from the Common Control and Measurement
Plane WG (ccamp) to consider the following document:
- 'Signaling Extensions for Wavelength Switched Optical Networks'
  <draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling-09.txt> as Proposed Standard

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Abstract

   This memo provides extensions to Generalized Multi-Protocol Label
   Switching (GMPLS) signaling for control of Wavelength Switched
   Optical Networks (WSON).  Such extensions are applicable in WSONs
   under a number of conditions including: (a) when optional
   processing, such as regeneration, must be configured to occur at
   specific nodes along a path, (b) where equipment must be configured
   to accept an optical signal with specific attributes, or (c) where
   equipment must be configured to output an optical signal with
   specific attributes. In addition this memo provides mechanisms to
   support distributed wavelength assignment with choice in distributed
   wavelength assignment algorithms. These extensions build on previous
   work for the control of lambda and G.709 based networks, i.e. update
   RFC6205, to make it applicable to WSON-LSC capable equipment.

The file can be obtained via
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling/

IESG discussion can be tracked via
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling/ballot/


The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D:

   http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1061/


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Hi,

Comments arising from my AD review and from discussion on the TEAS mailing list.
Please address these with other last call comments you receive.

You need to split the Authors' Addresses section and move out all those
not on the current front page to be present in a Contributors section.

---

You seem to have the name of RFC 6205 in the references section a bit
wrong!

---

Do you really mean that you are updating 6205? That is the document
that defines lambda labels.

It has no mention of G.709 despite what you say in the Abstract. This
seems a little odd.

What is more, I don't see any discussion of updates to the label format
or usage in the document although Section 4 does say

   [RFC6205] defines the label format as applicable to LSC capable
   device. This document extends [RFC6205] as make its label format
   applicable also to WSON-LSC capable devices.

I don't think that applying the label to WSON without changing its
meaning or the way it is used is really an "update".

---

Section 2 has FOADM, but it is not used in the document.

You need to hyphenate "Cross Connect" unless you are really angry :-)

---

Section 3 gives a caption to a list

    List 1. WSON Signal Characteristics

I've not seen that before in an I-D, and since you don't refer to the
list by name, I suggest you just delete this.

---

I wish you hadn't suggested explicit values for the two new Error Codes
in 4.2.2 and 6. But we'll see what IANA says during IETF last call.

---

During the review of draft-ietf-teas-lsp-attribute-ro it was noted that rules
are needed about where in an ERO the sub-objects are allowed, and that these
rules are dependent on the TLVs included in the sub-objects.

The following text was suggested:

>  The WSON Processing HOP Attribute TLV with ResourceBlockInfo MUST be
> present after an explicit Hop addressing an TE Router ID identifying a
> specific node or a Link ID identifying an incoming TE link. it MUST NOT be
> present after a loose, abstract node, Link ID identifying an outgoing TE
> link, Component Interface ID or Label.
> 
> The WSON Processing HOP Attribute TLV with WavelengthSelection only MUST
> be present after an explicit Hop addressing an TE Router ID identifying a
> specific node,  a Link ID identifying an incoming TE link, loose hop,
> abstract node, Link ID identifying an outgoing TE lin or  Component
> Interface ID. it MUST NOT be present after a Label.
> 
> The WavelengthSelection may apply starting at an abstract node, but not
> after a label (as no selection is possible)

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> Subject: Last Call: <draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling-09.txt> (Signaling
Extensions
> for Wavelength Switched Optical Networks) to Proposed Standard
> 
> The IESG has received a request from the Common Control and Measurement
> Plane WG (ccamp) to consider the following document:
> - 'Signaling Extensions for Wavelength Switched Optical Networks'
>   <draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling-09.txt> as Proposed Standard
> 
> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
> final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
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Hi Adrian,

Thanks for your attention. We will review your comment and upload the revis=
ion after 3/18.=20

Best regards,
Young

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Subject: AD review of draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling

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e]

Authors,

I've done my usual AD review of your document (the nth in the sequence=20
of n+1 WSON drafts!). I have a few comments, and normally I would ask
you for a new revision at once, but because of dates and things I am
going to start the IETF last call and enter these as last call comments.

The last call will end on 3/18 and you can post a new revision then (by
sending it to me to ask the Secretary to post it) or wait to post it
yourselves when the gates reopen on 3/23.

Thanks for the work,
Adrian

=3D=3D=3D

You need to split the Authors' Addresses section and move out all those
not on the current front page to be present in a Contributors section.

---

You seem to have the name of RFC 6205 in the references section a bit
wrong!

---
                                             =20
Do you really mean that you are updating 6205? That is the document
that defines lambda labels.

It has no mention of G.709 despite what you say in the Abstract. This
seems a little odd.                         =20

What is more, I don't see any discussion of updates to the label format
or usage in the document although Section 4 does say

   [RFC6205] defines the label format as applicable to LSC capable
   device. This document extends [RFC6205] as make its label format
   applicable also to WSON-LSC capable devices.

I don't think that applying the label to WSON without changing its
meaning or the way it is used is really an "update".

---

Section 2 has FOADM, but it is not used in the document.

You need to hyphenate "Cross Connect" unless you are really angry :-)

---

Section 3 gives a caption to a list

    List 1. WSON Signal Characteristics

I've not seen that before in an I-D, and since you don't refer to the=20
list by name, I suggest you just delete this.

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I wish you hadn't suggested explicit values for the two new Error Codes
in 4.2.2 and 6. But we'll see what IANA says during IETF last call.


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Fatai,<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">The text is not specif=
ic to TDM.&nbsp; It is present in both PSC (section 2.4.2) and TDM (section=
 2.4.3) cases.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Fatai Zh=
ang [mailto:zhangfatai@huawei.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 03, 2015 11:42 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhangxian (Xian); Rajan Rao; adrian@olddog.co.uk; 'CCAMP'; 'Ramo=
n Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Iftekhar Hussain<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Hi Ra=
jan,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">What =
you quoted from RFC4202 is specific for TDM (e.g., SDH), and you can see th=
ere is no =A1=B0Minimum LSP Bandwidth=A1=B1 defined for the GMPLS protocol =
even for TDM, because =A1=B0Minimum LSP Bandwidth=A1=B1
 is implicit and no need to carry this info in the protocol. <o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideog=
raph"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Does this make sense?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideog=
raph"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideog=
raph"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideog=
raph"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Best Regards<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideog=
raph"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideog=
raph"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Fatai<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> CCAMP [<=
a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Zhangxian (Xian)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 04, 2015 9:37 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; <a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk">adrian@olddog.=
co.uk</a>; 'CCAMP'; 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Iftekhar Hussain<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Hi, R=
ajan, all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">RFC4202 alone is indeed subject to your interpretati=
on since it describes the requirements in text. RFC4203 (the OSPF extension=
s) &amp; RFC5307 (IS-IS one) are much more
 clear as they defines the fields/encoding, matching what is described in R=
FC4202.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">My 2cents,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Xian<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Ra=
o [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:SimSun">=C4=EA</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">3</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=D4=C2</span><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">4</span><=
span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=C8=D5</s=
pan><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">
 9:12<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk">adrian@olddog.co.uk</a>; =
Zhangxian (Xian); 'CCAMP'; 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Iftekhar Hussain<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Adrian,<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<pre style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Looks=
 like there is different interpretation of RFC 4202 text.&nbsp; RFC 4202 te=
xt in sections 2.4.2 &amp; 2.4.3 &nbsp;says&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;colo=
r:#1F497D">=A1=B0=A1=AD..</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family=
:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">an LSP at priority<o:p></o:p></span><=
/pre>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&nbsp; p co=
uld reserve any bandwidth between the Minimum LSP Bandwidth and<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp=
; the Maximum LSP Bandwidth
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;=
color:red">at priority p</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">, provided that the bandwidth=A1=AD..=
=A1=B1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Having only the Maximu=
m LSP bandwidth field priority based &amp; not the Minimum LSP bandwidth fi=
eld doesn=A1=AFt seem right. &nbsp;It is a simplification for sure.&nbsp; W=
hat is the correct interpretation of above text? &nbsp;Will
 be good to know. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Adrian F=
arrel [<a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk">mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk</a=
>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 03, 2015 7:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Zhangxian (Xian)'; Rajan Rao; 'CCAMP'; 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Iftekhar Hussain<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Hi,<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">[Speaki=
ng as a regular contributor which, praise be, I will in just three weeks' t=
ime. Not that I'm counting...]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">There i=
s some up-levelling to be done here.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan s=
eems to be proposing a new concept that would allow us to advertise not jus=
t the bandwidth available at each priority (per 4202) but also to vary the =
constraints on allocation per priority.
 This would allow us to say that priority x LSPs can only use chunks of ban=
dwidth between sizes a and b, while priority y LSPs can only chunks of band=
width between sizes c and d.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">I have =
three questions:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">- Is th=
is a valid thing to want to do in any technology?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">- Is it=
 something we want to do in Flexigrid?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">- Is it=
 something that should be generalised?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thanks,=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Adrian<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
4.0pt">
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> CCAMP [<=
a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Zhangxian (Xian)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 03 March 2015 07:22<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.o=
rg</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Iftekhar Hussain<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#632423">Hi, R=
ajan, <o:p>
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Ra=
o [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:SimSun">=C4=EA</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">3</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=D4=C2</span><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">3</span><=
span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=C8=D5</s=
pan><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">
 8:56<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp=
@ietf.org</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Xian,<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Minimum LSP bandwidth =
will address technological advances. For e.g. tomorrow=A1=AFs 6.25GHz &nbsp=
;instead of today=A1=AFs 12.5GHz. GMPLS extensions should cover the case of=
 network having a mix of different hardware capabilities.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#632423">[Xian=
]: I agree with the above statements. But they are a property of an interfa=
ce, which AFAIC does not change over time. That=A1=AFs why I said it have a=
lready be covered by Section 4.3 (please
 take a look if any information is missing as well). &nbsp;ISCD, especially=
 SCSI is used to advertise the available bandwidth information and it is ch=
anging dynamically. So, I do not think SCSI is the right place to do so.<o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Advertising per priori=
ty aligns with RFC4202.&nbsp; I don=A1=AFt see any issues.</span><span styl=
e=3D"color:#632423"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#632423">[Xian=
] I have to disagree.&nbsp; &nbsp;RFC4202 does not support advertising min =
LSP bandwidth per priority. Please take a look at the encoding of Section 1=
.4. of RFC4203. What=A1=AFs said there: for PSC and
 TDM, you carry ONE minimum LSP bandwidth information (which is not associa=
ted per priority); for Lambda switching, it does not have any SCSI at all.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#632423"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#632423">Havin=
g said all these, I personally do not think the value of advertising min LS=
P bandwidth per priority. If you disagree again, could you give me an usage=
 example?&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">As far as Maximum LSP =
bandwidth goes, either option would work but my preference would be to put =
it in technology specific part (SCSI).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#632423">[Xian=
]: point taken. I agree with you that both work but I would prefer to take =
Option 1. Let=A1=AFs get a bit more feedback from the WG before updating th=
e draft.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#632423"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#632423">Regar=
ds,<br>
Xian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhangxia=
n (Xian) [<a href=3D"mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com">mailto:zhang.xian@huawei=
.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.o=
rg</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Hi, R=
ajan, all,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;=A1=B0</span><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Min &a=
mp; Max slot=A1=B1 you mentioned below is a bit mis-leading. I think you wa=
nted to say =A1=B0Min &amp; Max LSP bandwidth=A1=B1. Let talk them one by o=
ne since we are
 not aligned yet on both. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;Why do we need to advertise Min LSP bandwidth per priority in=
 ISCD, e.g., a request cannot set up a LSP smaller than X GHz and it varies=
 per priority? If you&nbsp; meant to say the interface limitation, it is
 covered in Section 4.3 already. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p; &nbsp;As for the Max LSP bandwidth information, I agree with you that RF=
C4204 has this requirement. This draft (draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01) needs to be updated to reflect this. I can think of
 two options: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Option A: use the exis=
ting fields (MAX LSP Bandwidth at priority x, x=3D0-7) &nbsp;in the ISCD (d=
efined in Section 1.4. of RFC4203). The point that we need to update is the=
 unit to be usable in the context of Flexi-grid.
 It will be Hz not byte per second.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Option B: We add the m=
ax LSP bandwidth field (16 bit) in the Available Labels Field by using the =
Reserved field. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Whi=
ch option does the WG prefer?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Regards,<br>
Xian</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Ra=
o [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:SimSun">=C4=EA</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=D4=C2</span><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">28</span>=
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=C8=D5</=
span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;">
 2:51<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp=
@ietf.org</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Xian, all<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Section 4.3 is trying =
to use port label restrictions sub-TLV with a new restriction type.&nbsp; T=
his is fine.&nbsp; But how does a path computing node determine if it can u=
se the link to setup an LSP with N-slots @ priority
 =A1=AEp=A1=AF?&nbsp; &nbsp;For e.g&nbsp; I don=A1=AFt want to allow priori=
ty 7 LSPs to use bandwidth greater than 20 slots on the link but allow for =
LSPs with priority 0, 1 &amp; 2.&nbsp; Where is this info in the TLV?<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">We had given examples =
when we presented our draft in Taipei IETF-82. &nbsp;Ref slides 8 &amp; 10 =
(link below).&nbsp; We had coverage for advertisement of&nbsp; Min &amp; Ma=
x slot widths per priority. This is meant to align with RFC
 4202.&nbsp; I believe WG doc lacks this and needs to address.<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><a href=3D"http://www.=
ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/ccamp-18.pdf">http://www.ietf.org/proceeding=
s/82/slides/ccamp-18.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">thx<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhangxia=
n (Xian) [<a href=3D"mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com">mailto:zhang.xian@huawei=
.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 26, 2015 5:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.o=
rg</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Hi, Raj=
an and all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.5pt;color:black">Thank you for your clarification and I now fully under=
stand your question. I think you have misunderstood Section 4.3. of this dr=
aft. It was not to describe dynamic Max
 &amp; Min LSP bandwidth but rather the capability/constraint associated wi=
th an port, which rarely change over time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:10.5pt"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.5pt;color:black">Isn=A1=AFt information per priority already supported=
? Quoting text from the drafts referred:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<pre style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;col=
or:black">=A1=B0</span><span lang=3D"EN" style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-fami=
ly:SimSun">The technology specific part of the WSON ISCD may include a vari=
able<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN" style=
=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:SimSun">&nbsp;&nbsp; number of sub-TLVs cal=
led Bandwidth sub-TLVs.</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:8.0pt=
;font-family:SimSun">=A1=B1</span><span lang=3D"EN" style=3D"font-size:8.0p=
t;font-family:SimSun"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span lang=3D"EN" style=
=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:SimSun"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.5pt;color:black">As for the Mix and Max LSP bandwidth, could you give m=
e an example of what you said below, i.e.,=A1=B0Availability of&nbsp; =A1=
=AEN=A1=AF consecutive labels doesn=A1=AFt mean you can setup an
 LSP with a size of =A1=AEN=A1=AF=A1=B1? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">&nbsp;&=
nbsp; &nbsp;What does the WG think of the issue under discussion?<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.5pt;color:black">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.5pt;color:black">Xian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:9.6pt"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Ra=
o [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:SimSun">=C4=EA</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=D4=C2</span><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">27</span>=
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=C8=D5</=
span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;">
 4:03<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp=
@ietf.org</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Xian,<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">I understand this doc =
is trying to reuse
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">GEN-ENCODE &amp; ther=
e is support for priority. &nbsp;I am not referring to this one. &nbsp;The =
Min Width &amp; Max &nbsp;Width fields do exist in the draft but these alon=
e are not sufficient. We need info per priority for the following
 reason.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">The i=
ntent of Min &amp; Max width info is to specify what is the Minimum/Maximum=
 LSP bandwidth an LSP could reserve at a given priority =A1=AEp=A1=AF on th=
e link.&nbsp; You can draw parallel to =A1=AEMinimum LSP Bandwidth=A1=AF
 &amp; =A1=AEMaximum LSP Bandwidth=A1=AF fields in RFC 4202.&nbsp; &nbsp;<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">I don=
=A1=AFt understand how you can derive this from label set field.&nbsp; &nbs=
p;Availability of&nbsp; =A1=AEN=A1=AF consecutive labels doesn=A1=AFt mean =
you can setup an LSP with a size of =A1=AEN=A1=AF.&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Thx<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Rajan=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhangxia=
n (Xian) [<a href=3D"mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com">mailto:zhang.xian@huawei=
.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 25, 2015 5:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.o=
rg</a>); 'Ramon Casellas'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Hi, R=
ajan,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; As I was not involved earlier, I find the following may be &n=
bsp;a bit long for others in the WG to get involved. &nbsp;Before I dive in=
to the discussion and share my thoughts, am I accurate if I recap
 the question as:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:5.25pt"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp; You think the existing text in draft-i=
etf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01 do not support the following:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:23.25pt;text-indent:-.25=
in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><span s=
tyle=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497=
D">Do not support priority;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:23.25pt;text-indent:-.25=
in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><span s=
tyle=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497=
D">Do not convey the min &amp; max LSP bandwidth information in the SCSI fi=
eld;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Could=
 you confirm my interpretation of your issue?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">The f=
ollowing is my thoughts ( subject to change if the question I recapped abov=
e is not as exact as what you want to say):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">The&n=
bsp; current method is to reuse what has already been proposed for WSON. So=
 it reuses the SCSI field defined in WSON-OSPF draft (<a href=3D"https://to=
ols.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility-ospf-15#sectio=
n-3.1">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibili=
ty-ospf-15#section-3.1</a>).
 So, it DOES support priority (see the details are in [GEN-ENCODE] draft-ie=
tf-ccamp-general-constraint-encode-20). Exactly because of the same reason,=
 the draft under discussion uses label set field to describe what frequency=
 slots are available. So, although
 it allows for all different varieties supported by [GEN-ENCODE] (i.e., lis=
t, bitmap, inclusive, exclusive etc.), the method does not see the need of =
specify the max&amp;min LSP bandwidth since it can be naturally deduced fro=
m the available frequency spectrum information
 conveyed. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">The a=
bove discussion actually reminds me of a question Ramon raised up a while a=
go among the authors of this draft, what has been defined in WSON-OSPF is t=
ruly usable labels in signaling. But
 with Flexi-grid, it is not true anymore. For example, although we use Incl=
usive Label Range to describe available frequency range, say the example in=
 Section 4.4 of &nbsp;draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01 (assume m=
=3D1), none of these labels are directly
 usable if what is actually requested is a bandwidth with m=3D2. &nbsp;I my=
self do not see any issue as long as we make it clear we use the format jus=
t to describe what resource available NOT usable labels. Since it is a WG d=
raft, it is worthwhile to solicit what
 you think?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Cheer=
s,<br>
Xian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Ra=
o [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2015</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:SimSun">=C4=EA</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=D4=C2</span><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">26</span>=
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=C8=D5</=
span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;">
 7:17<br>
<b>To:</b> Daniele Ceccarelli; Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang; CCAMP (<a href=3D=
"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a>)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Ramon Case=
llas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: dra=
ft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Daniele,<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Sure.&nbsp; Added WG i=
n the list for comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan&nbsp; <o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Daniele =
Ceccarelli [<a href=3D"mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com">mailto:danie=
le.ceccarelli@ericsson.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Ramon Case=
llas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: dra=
ft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">This is a really inter=
esting discussion and since we=A1=AFre speaking about a working group draft=
 I think we should continue con the mailing list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Please include the WG =
in your reply.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">BR<br>
Daniele<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
4.0pt">
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Ra=
o [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> mercoled=A8=AC 25 febbraio 2015 19:56<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Daniele Ce=
ccarelli; Ramon Casellas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: dra=
ft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Haomian,<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">The priority in each l=
ayer is independent. &nbsp;The intent of explicitly carrying priority info =
in the advertisement is to allow for LSP creation at different priorities.&=
nbsp; Note that priority defined in OTN RFC don=A1=AFt
 apply here as it is a different layer. &nbsp;&nbsp;You can have L0-LSP set=
up at priority-1 but L1-Telink (OTN link) formed out of this may advertise =
all 8 or subset of them. &nbsp;It is an implementation choice.&nbsp; I don=
=A1=AFt see any conflicts here.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Once we agree on the f=
ollowing items we can figure out TLV encoding options.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;=
mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:=
Ignore">1.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Allow for Adve=
rtisement of Min &amp; Max slot widths at different priorities =A8C up to 8=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;=
mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:=
Ignore">2.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Min/Max slot w=
idth field =A8C 16 bit instead of 8&nbsp; (I see you are agreeing to this c=
hange below)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;=
mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:=
Ignore">3.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Max LSP Bandwi=
dth =A8C this was debated in previous meetings but no firm conclusion.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhenghao=
mian [<a href=3D"mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com">mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei=
.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 24, 2015 11:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Daniele Ce=
ccarelli; Ramon Casellas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<br>
<b>Subject:</b> </span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:SimSun">=B4=F0=B8=B4</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: [CCAMP]
</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=
=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma=
&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid=
-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Hi, R=
ajan,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Thank=
s for the information, I noticed there is a change talking about extending =
Flexi-grid data plan to satisfy requirements in RFC4202. I forward this ema=
il to all the authors of OSPF draft
 to advertise your comments</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-fami=
ly:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#=
1F497D"> &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">First=
ly let=A1=AFs recall the sub-TLV format in draft-dhillon-ccamp-flexgrid-osp=
fte-ext as follow:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;
<a name=3D"section-0">0</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;3<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2=
 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#4=
3;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-=
&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Type=3D1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Length&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;----------------------------------------------=
-----------------&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |Slice Spacing | Pri |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp; Reserved&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;----------------------------------------------=
-----------------&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; N-Start&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Num=
 of Slices&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;----------------------------------------------=
-----------------&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; M=
in Slot Width&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Max Slot Width&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;----------------------------------------------=
-----------------&#43;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; | &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Bit-Map showing =
Available Slices&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (up =
to 48 bytes)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:SimSun;co=
lor:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#4=
3;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-=
&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Then =
I share my understanding on your concern. Compared with sub-TLV in section =
4.3 of draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01, I highlight the differen=
ce as follow:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">In yo=
ur proposal,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in=
;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><span s=
tyle=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497=
D">Slice Spacing is preferred to be carried in the &nbsp;sub-TLV;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in=
;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><span s=
tyle=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497=
D">Priority bits are preferred to be included in sub-TLV;<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in=
;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><span s=
tyle=3D"mso-list:Ignore">3)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497=
D">Min/Max Widths should both be 16-bit;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in=
;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><span s=
tyle=3D"mso-list:Ignore">4)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497=
D">N-start and Num of Slices to represent the spectrum rather than C.F.G an=
d S.W.G;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Below=
 please find my comments:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">First=
ly I believe both of your structure and the current structure in WG draft a=
re satisfying the requirement of flexi-grid FWK draft (the info model in Fi=
g. 17). We only need to deal with some
 differences in representation format, and some additional information may =
be useful.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in=
;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><span s=
tyle=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497=
D">Different slice spacing is applicable but may not be necessary; the spir=
it to introduce flexible grid is to allow flexibility in spectrum allocatio=
n and current WG draft can satisfy
 the requirement. Not much further advantage for using slice spacing; <o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in=
;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><span s=
tyle=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497=
D">Priority bits: I agree that it is widely used, I am basically fine to in=
clude priority bits in the sub-TLV. My only concern is, there are also such=
 priority information in other place
 (for example OTN BW sub-TLV in Section 4.1.3 in RFC7138), do we need to re=
peat here? What is the relationship if we have two priorities? Is it possib=
le the OTN priority is not consistent with flexi-grid priority? Why? And Ho=
w to deal with this?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in=
;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><span s=
tyle=3D"mso-list:Ignore">3)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497=
D">Agreed, will change both the min/max widths to 16-bit in the next versio=
n;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in=
;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><span s=
tyle=3D"mso-list:Ignore">4)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497=
D">Personally I don=A1=AFt think it=A1=AFs necessary to change the current =
WG draft: I think your proposed representation can have equivalent result a=
s the one in current WG draft;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Rajan=
, please correct me if there is misunderstanding, also let me know if you h=
ave other comments.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">All, =
please feel free to comments, or we move to the list if necessary</span><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Best =
wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">Haomi=
an<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:SimSun">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB</span></b><b><span style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:SimSun"> Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">mailto:rra=
o@infinera.com</a>]
<br>
<b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4</span>:</b> 2015<span lang=
=3D"ZH-CN">=C4=EA</span>2<span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=D4=C2</span>24<span lang=3D"=
ZH-CN">=C8=D5</span> 4:03<br>
<b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span>:</b> Zhenghaomian; Fatai =
Zhang<br>
<b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=B3=AD=CB=CD</span>:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar=
 Hussain<br>
<b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=D6=F7=CC=E2</span>:</b> RE: [CCAMP] <span lang=3D"=
ZH-CN">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span>: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Haomian,<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">The Flexgrid FWK doc h=
as been updated with reference to RFC4202. &nbsp;&nbsp;This should address =
the comment you had in the earlier email.&nbsp; Pl refer to updated doc (at=
tached email from Ramon). &nbsp;Pl let us know how you would
 like to proceed. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">FWK doc Snip below:<o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">5.1.2.&nbsp; Routing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; The routing protocol will support=
 all functions as described in<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; [RFC4202] and extend them to a fl=
exi-grid data plane.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Rajan<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Ra=
o
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 03, 2015 2:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: dra=
ft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Haomian,<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thx for the reply. =
Pl see below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Zhenghaomian [<a href=3D"mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com">mailto:zheng=
haomian@huawei.com</a>]
<br>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 11:22 PM<br>
To: Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang<br>
Cc: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain<br>
Subject: <span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=
=B4=F0=B8=B4</span>: [CCAMP] <span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:Ming=
LiU">
=D7=AA=B7=A2</span>: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01=
.txt<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Hi, Rajan,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Firstly sorry for the very late response.<o:p></o=
:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">For your first concern, I see some difference in =
TLVs about priority issue (Table I in your draft). I think I understand you=
r description but I didn't find very much advantage to include such 'scalab=
le' settings.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">RR&gt;&gt; Priority=
 based advertisement is pretty standard mechanism used in all existing RFCs=
.&nbsp; For e.g. you can find these in WSON, OTN&nbsp; docs and any other T=
e-extensions draft.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Another concern from me is, for the flexi-grid li=
terature, there are more than one WG draft, I think it's better to consider=
 such case in fwk draft, and after that the OSPF one can revise accordingly=
. P.S, I don't know whether this topic
 was discussed on the list before (perhaps there are some conclusions, let =
me know). If not, I would like to suggest move to the list.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">RR&gt;&gt; I looked=
 at framework.&nbsp; Yes, it doesn=A1=AFt talk about priority based adverti=
sement.&nbsp; Thanks for pointing this out. Good catch. We will provide thi=
s comment to FWK authors &amp; CC you.&nbsp; I do not see any issue
 updating the fwk doc with this detail. &nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">For your second concern on Max LSP Bandwidth, my =
understanding is you are trying to use the description in section 3.2 of yo=
ur draft to replace the one in section 4.3 of current WG draft. Is this tru=
e? I believe the description in your
 draft is clear and correct. BTW, I noticed bit difference in Min Bandwidth=
 (16 bits allocated in your draft and 8 bit in current WG draft), hopefully=
 this will not be a big issue (8 bit support a bandwidth up to 3200GHz, whi=
ch is absolutely more than the normal
 requirement for a minimal BW).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">RR&gt;&gt; &nbsp;Ye=
s, I was referring to section 3.2 in our draft.&nbsp; &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">We went with 16-bit=
 fields for Min &amp; Max fields as the values for these fields range from =
0 =A8C 384.&nbsp; We tried to address the case of using full spectrum BW as=
 one LSP.&nbsp; This is an extreme case but can=A1=AFt be
 ruled out.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Pl let me know if y=
ou have any other comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Haomian<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">-----<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:Mi=
ngLiU">=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE</span>-----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:MingLiU=
">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB</span>: Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com=
"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:rrao@infiner=
a.com</span></a>]
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:MingLiU=
">=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4</span>: 2014<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-f=
amily:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C4=EA</span>12<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"f=
ont-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=D4=C2</span>18<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C8=D5</span>
 6:09<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;M=
S Gothic&quot;">=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span>: Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<o:p></=
o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;M=
S Gothic&quot;">=B3=AD=CB=CD</span>: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain<o:p=
></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;M=
S Gothic&quot;">=D6=F7</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:Ming=
LiU">=CC=E2</span>: RE: [CCAMP]
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span>: I-D=
 Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Haomian,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">As I had mentioned we are no longer pushing for S=
uperChannel in the draft.&nbsp; So, this should make it easier to merge the=
 docs.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">In my view there are couple of areas your draft d=
oesn't address which can be taken from our draft:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">1.&nbsp; You have separated Max &amp; Min Slot wi=
dth in Port Label restriction sub-TLV.&nbsp; This is O.K. But this doesn't =
allow for priority based Min/Max usage.&nbsp;&nbsp; Our draft allows for th=
is flexibility which can be used.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">2.&nbsp; Max LSP Bandwidth field definition can b=
e taken from our doc.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">The priority handling can be further simplified b=
y merging slice info &amp; Min/Max fields in to a single sub-TLV if other a=
uthors agree.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Pl let me know.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Thx<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Rajan<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">From: Zhenghaomian [<a href=3D"mailto:zhenghaomia=
n@huawei.com"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:=
zhenghaomian@huawei.com</span></a>]
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 5:15 PM<o:p></o:=
p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">To: Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Cc: Khuzema Pithewan<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Subject: <span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-famil=
y:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">
=B4=F0=B8=B4</span>: [CCAMP] <span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:Ming=
LiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span>: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-e=
xt-01.txt<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Hi, Rajan and Khuzema,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Thanks for reminding. Do you guys have any sugges=
tion on how to merge? Even if we think the current draft is self-contained,=
 we are still open on this.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">I know there are some different ideas from Infine=
ra, but sorry I am not fully understand every detail. Please let me know th=
e exact section that need to be updated and let's see how to proceed. Again=
, this will finally be determined
 by the WG since already adopted. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Haomian<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">-----<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:Mi=
ngLiU">=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE</span>-----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:MingLiU=
">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB</span>: Rajan Rao [<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com=
"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:rrao@infiner=
a.com</span></a>]
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:MingLiU=
">=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4</span>: 2014<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-f=
amily:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C4=EA</span>12<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"f=
ont-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=D4=C2</span>17<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C8=D5</span>
 6:01<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;M=
S Gothic&quot;">=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span>: Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<o:p></=
o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;M=
S Gothic&quot;">=B3=AD=CB=CD</span>: Khuzema Pithewan<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;M=
S Gothic&quot;">=D6=F7</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:Ming=
LiU">=CC=E2</span>: RE: [CCAMP]
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:MingLiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span>: I-D=
 Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Haomian,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">We had sent couple of emails asking about merging=
 the contents with our draft.&nbsp; Do you see an opportunity or any issues=
 with the merge?&nbsp; Can you pl respond on how you would like to proceed?=
 Pl see the attached email we had sent a while
 back.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Thanks<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Rajan<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">From: CCAMP [<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf=
.org"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:ccamp-bo=
unces@ietf.org</span></a>] On Behalf Of Zhenghaomian<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 12:24 AM<o:p></o=
:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">To: <a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org"><span style=
=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a><o:p></=
o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Subject: [CCAMP] <span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"fo=
nt-family:MingLiU">
=D7=AA=B7=A2</span>: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01=
.txt<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Dear CCAMPers,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">We upload an updated version to reactivate the fo=
llowing draft against expiration, together updating the Max width issue pro=
posed in previous discussions. Your comments are highly welcomed, thanks.<o=
:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Haomian on behalf of authors<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">-----<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:Mi=
ngLiU">=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE</span>-----<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:MingLiU=
">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB</span>: CCAMP [<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.or=
g"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">mailto:ccamp-bounc=
es@ietf.org</span></a>]
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=B4=FA=B1=
=ED</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN"> </span>
<a href=3D"mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org"><span style=3D"color:windowtext=
;text-decoration:none">internet-drafts@ietf.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:MingLiU=
">=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4</span>: 2014<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-f=
amily:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C4=EA</span>12<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"f=
ont-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=D4=C2</span>16<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C8=D5</span>
 16:16<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;M=
S Gothic&quot;">=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span>:
<a href=3D"mailto:i-d-announce@ietf.org"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;te=
xt-decoration:none">i-d-announce@ietf.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;M=
S Gothic&quot;">=B3=AD=CB=CD</span>:
<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-deco=
ration:none">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;M=
S Gothic&quot;">=D6=F7</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-family:Ming=
LiU">=CC=E2</span>: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-lin=
e Internet-Drafts directories.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">This draft is a work item of the Common Control a=
nd Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Title&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : GMPLS OSPF-TE=
 Extensions in support of Flexible Grid<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Author=
s&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : Xian Zhang<o:p></o:p></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Haomian Zheng<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Ramon Casellas<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Daniele Ceccarelli<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Filename&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp; : draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Pages&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : 14<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Date&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : 2014-12-16<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Abstract:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; This memo describes the OSPF-TE exte=
nsions in support of GMPLS<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; control of networks that include dev=
ices that use the new flexible<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; optical grid.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">The IETF datatracker status page for this draft i=
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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft=
-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext/"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;text-d=
ecoration:none">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-=
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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">There's also a htmlized version available at:<o:p=
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ext-01</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">A diff from the previous version is available at:=
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ft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01"><span style=3D"color:windowtext;te=
xt-decoration:none">http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-fle=
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which is 6.25GHz capable: Tomorrow=A1=AFs network growth<o:p></o:p></span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">A=A1=AAB---C---D<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">D is computing path to A.=
&nbsp; All it needs is 6.25GHz. &nbsp;&nbsp;Links A-B and B-C don=A1=AFt su=
pport this.&nbsp; &nbsp;How will D know about this?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Hope this helps.&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; The discussion is around the need to advertise this info for each=
 priority.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Regards<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Rajan<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> wang.qil=
ei@zte.com.cn [mailto:wang.qilei@zte.com.cn]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 04, 2015 1:12 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao<br>
<b>Cc:</b> adrian@olddog.co.uk; 'CCAMP'; Iftekhar Hussain; 'Ramon Casellas'=
; 'Zhangxian (Xian)'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Rajan,</sp=
an>
<br>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">Can you give us a detailed example about the use of &quot;Minimu=
m LSP bandwidth&quot;?</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">Currently, I can not feel the importance of this information.</s=
pan>
<br>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">I like Ramon's answer: &quot;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt">It may be short-sighted to discard the option</span><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&quot;,=
 so please go
 on.</span> <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">Thanks</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">Qilei</span> <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;=
Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Rajan Rao &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@in=
finera.com">rrao@infinera.com</a>&gt;</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:7.=
5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><br>
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB</span><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&=
quot;">: &nbsp;&quot;CCAMP&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.o=
rg">ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</a>&gt;</span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">2015-03-04 09:11</span>
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g=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span><o:p></o:p><=
/p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&quot;<a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.u=
k">adrian@olddog.co.uk</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk"=
>adrian@olddog.co.uk</a>&gt;, &quot;'Zhangxian (Xian)'&quot; &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com">zhang.xian@huawei.com</a>&gt;,
 'CCAMP' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a>&gt;, 'Ram=
on Casellas' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ramon.casellas@cttc.es">ramon.casellas@c=
ttc.es</a>&gt;,
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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g=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">=B3=AD=CB=CD</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Iftekhar Hussain &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:IHu=
ssain@infinera.com">IHussain@infinera.com</a>&gt;</span>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbs=
p; &nbsp;draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt</span><o:p></o:p></=
p>
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<br>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Adrian,</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Looks like there is different interpretation of =
RFC 4202 text. &nbsp;RFC 4202 text in sections 2.4.2 &amp; 2.4.3 &nbsp;says=
 &nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-s=
erif&quot;;color:#004080">=A1=B0=A1=AD..</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">an LSP at priority</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;=
 p could reserve any bandwidth between the Minimum LSP Bandwidth and</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;=
 &nbsp;the Maximum LSP Bandwidth
<span style=3D"color:red">at priority p</span>, provided that the bandwidth=
=A1=AD..=A1=B1</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Having only the Maximum LSP bandwidth field prio=
rity based &amp; not the Minimum LSP bandwidth field doesn=A1=AFt seem righ=
t. &nbsp;It is a simplification for sure. &nbsp;What is the correct interpr=
etation
 of above text? &nbsp;Will be good to know. </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Thx</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Rajan</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Adrian Farrel [</span><a href=
=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family=
:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk</spa=
n></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 03, 2015 7:45 AM<b><br>
To:</b> 'Zhangxian (Xian)'; Rajan Rao; 'CCAMP'; 'Ramon Casellas'<b><br>
Cc:</b> Iftekhar Hussain<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ex=
t-01.txt</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Hi,</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">[Speaking as a regular contributor which, praise=
 be, I will in just three weeks' time. Not that I'm counting...]</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">There is some up-levelling to be done here.</spa=
n>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Rajan seems to be proposing a new concept that w=
ould allow us to advertise not just the bandwidth available at each priorit=
y (per 4202) but also to vary the constraints on allocation
 per priority. This would allow us to say that priority x LSPs can only use=
 chunks of bandwidth between sizes a and b, while priority y LSPs can only =
chunks of bandwidth between sizes c and d.</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">I have three questions:</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">- Is this a valid thing to want to do in any tec=
hnology?</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">- Is it something we want to do in Flexigrid?</s=
pan>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">- Is it something that should be generalised?</s=
pan>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Thanks,</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Adrian</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> CCAMP [</span><a href=3D"mailto=
:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</span></=
a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans=
-serif&quot;">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Zhangxian (Xian)<b><br>
Sent:</b> 03 March 2015 07:22<b><br>
To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (</span><a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">); 'Ramon Casellas'<b><br>
Cc:</b> Iftekhar Hussain<b><br>
Subject:</b> Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ex=
t-01.txt</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#620012">Hi, Rajan,
</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [</span><a href=3D"ma=
ilto:rrao@infinera.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;T=
ahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</span></a><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> 2015</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=C4=EA=
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;">3</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=
=D4=C2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">3</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10=
.0pt">=C8=D5</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma=
&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 8:56<b><br>
To:</b> Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (</span><a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org"><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">); 'Ramon Casellas'<b><br>
Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ex=
t-01.txt</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Xian,</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Minimum LSP bandwidth will address technological=
 advances. For e.g. tomorrow=A1=AFs 6.25GHz &nbsp;instead of today=A1=AFs 1=
2.5GHz. GMPLS extensions should cover the case of network having a mix
 of different hardware capabilities. </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#620012">[Xian]: I agree with the above statements. But t=
hey are a property of an interface, which AFAIC does not change over time. =
That=A1=AFs why I said it have already be covered by Section
 4.3 (please take a look if any information is missing as well). &nbsp;ISCD=
, especially SCSI is used to advertise the available bandwidth information =
and it is changing dynamically. So, I do not think SCSI is the right place =
to do so.</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Advertising per priority aligns with RFC4202. &n=
bsp;I don=A1=AFt see any issues.</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#620012">[Xian] I have to disagree. &nbsp; RFC4202 does n=
ot support advertising min LSP bandwidth per priority. Please take a look a=
t the encoding of Section 1.4. of RFC4203. What=A1=AFs said there:
 for PSC and TDM, you carry ONE minimum LSP bandwidth information (which is=
 not associated per priority); for Lambda switching, it does not have any S=
CSI at all.
</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#620012">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#620012">Having said all these, I personally do not think=
 the value of advertising min LSP bandwidth per priority. If you disagree a=
gain, could you give me an usage example? &nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">As far as Maximum LSP bandwidth goes, either opt=
ion would work but my preference would be to put it in technology specific =
part (SCSI).</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#620012">[Xian]: point taken. I agree with you that both =
work but I would prefer to take Option 1. Let=A1=AFs get a bit more feedbac=
k from the WG before updating the draft.</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#620012">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#620012">Regards,<br>
Xian</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Thx</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Rajan</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhangxian (Xian) [</span><a hre=
f=3D"mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com=
</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&=
quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:35 PM<b><br>
To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (</span><a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">); 'Ramon Casellas'<b><br>
Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ex=
t-01.txt</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Hi, Rajan, all,
</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =A1=B0Min &amp; Max slot=A1=
=B1 you mentioned below is a bit mis-leading. I think you wanted to say =A1=
=B0Min &amp; Max LSP bandwidth=A1=B1. Let talk them one by one since we are=
 not aligned yet on both.
</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Why do we need to advertise=
 Min LSP bandwidth per priority in ISCD, e.g., a request cannot set up a LS=
P smaller than X GHz and it varies per priority? If you &nbsp;meant to say
 the interface limitation, it is covered in Section 4.3 already. &nbsp;</sp=
an> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; As for the Max LSP bandwidt=
h information, I agree with you that RFC4204 has this requirement. This dra=
ft (draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01) needs to be updated to
 reflect this. I can think of two options: </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Option A: use the existing fields (MAX LSP Bandw=
idth at priority x, x=3D0-7) &nbsp;in the ISCD (defined in Section 1.4. of =
RFC4203). The point that we need to update is the unit to be
 usable in the context of Flexi-grid. It will be Hz not byte per second.</s=
pan> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Option B: We add the max LSP bandwidth field (16=
 bit) in the Available Labels Field by using the Reserved field. &nbsp;</sp=
an>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp; &nbsp; Which option does the WG prefer?</=
span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Regards,<br>
Xian</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [</span><a href=3D"ma=
ilto:rrao@infinera.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;T=
ahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</span></a><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> 2015</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=C4=EA=
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;">2</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=
=D4=C2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">28</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt">=C8=D5</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahom=
a&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 2:51<b><br>
To:</b> Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (</span><a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org"><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">); 'Ramon Casellas'<b><br>
Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ex=
t-01.txt</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Xian, all</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Section 4.3 is trying to use port label restrict=
ions sub-TLV with a new restriction type. &nbsp;This is fine. &nbsp;But how=
 does a path computing node determine if it can use the link to
 setup an LSP with N-slots @ priority =A1=AEp=A1=AF? &nbsp; For e.g &nbsp;I=
 don=A1=AFt want to allow priority 7 LSPs to use bandwidth greater than 20 =
slots on the link but allow for LSPs with priority 0, 1 &amp; 2. &nbsp;Wher=
e is this info in the TLV?</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">We had given examples when we presented our draf=
t in Taipei IETF-82. &nbsp;Ref slides 8 &amp; 10 (link below). &nbsp;We had=
 coverage for advertisement of &nbsp;Min &amp; Max slot widths per priority=
.
 This is meant to align with RFC 4202. &nbsp;I believe WG doc lacks this an=
d needs to address.</span>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/ccamp-18.pdf"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&qu=
ot;">http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/ccamp-18.pdf</span></a>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">thx</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Rajan</span>
<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhangxian (Xian) [</span><a hre=
f=3D"mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com=
</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&=
quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> Thursday, February 26, 2015 5:33 PM<b><br>
To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (</span><a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">); 'Ramon Casellas'<b><br>
Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ex=
t-01.txt</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">Hi, Rajan and all,</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">Thank you for your clarification and I now fully understand yo=
ur question. I think you have misunderstood Section 4.3. of this draft. It =
was not to describe dynamic Max &amp; Min LSP bandwidth but
 rather the capability/constraint associated with an port, which rarely cha=
nge over time.</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">Isn=A1=AFt information per priority already supported? Quoting=
 text from the drafts referred:</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">=A1=B0</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;=
Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">The technology specific part of the WSO=
N ISCD may include a variable</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-ser=
if&quot;">&nbsp; &nbsp;number of sub-TLVs called Bandwidth sub-TLVs.=A1=B1<=
/span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-ser=
if&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">As for the Mix and Max LSP bandwidth, could you give me an exa=
mple of what you said below, i.e.,=A1=B0Availability of &nbsp;=A1=AEN=A1=AF=
 consecutive labels doesn=A1=AFt mean you can setup an LSP with a size of =
=A1=AEN=A1=AF=A1=B1?
</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp; &nbsp; What does the WG think of the issue under discus=
sion?</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">Regards,</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">Xian</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [</span><a href=3D"ma=
ilto:rrao@infinera.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;T=
ahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</span></a><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> 2015</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=C4=EA=
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;">2</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=
=D4=C2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">27</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt">=C8=D5</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahom=
a&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 4:03<b><br>
To:</b> Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (</span><a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org"><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">); 'Ramon Casellas'<b><br>
Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ex=
t-01.txt</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Xian,</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">I understand this doc is trying to reuse GEN-ENC=
ODE &amp; there is support for priority. &nbsp;I am not referring to this o=
ne. &nbsp;The Min Width &amp; Max &nbsp;Width fields do exist in the draft =
but
 these alone are not sufficient. We need info per priority for the followin=
g reason.</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">The intent of Min &amp; Max width info is to spe=
cify what is the Minimum/Maximum LSP bandwidth an LSP could reserve at a gi=
ven priority =A1=AEp=A1=AF on the link. &nbsp;You can draw parallel to =A1=
=AEMinimum
 LSP Bandwidth=A1=AF &amp; =A1=AEMaximum LSP Bandwidth=A1=AF fields in RFC =
4202. &nbsp; </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">I don=A1=AFt understand how you can derive this =
from label set field. &nbsp; Availability of &nbsp;=A1=AEN=A1=AF consecutiv=
e labels doesn=A1=AFt mean you can setup an LSP with a size of =A1=AEN=A1=
=AF. &nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Thx</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Rajan</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhangxian (Xian) [</span><a hre=
f=3D"mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com=
</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&=
quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 25, 2015 5:37 PM<b><br>
To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (</span><a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">); 'Ramon Casellas'<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ex=
t-01.txt</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Hi, Rajan,</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp; &nbsp; As I was not involved earlier, I f=
ind the following may be &nbsp;a bit long for others in the WG to get invol=
ved. &nbsp;Before I dive into the discussion and share my thoughts, am I ac=
curate
 if I recap the question as:</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp; &nbsp;You think the existing text in draf=
t-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01 do not support the following:
</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">1) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Do not support priority;
</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">2) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Do not convey the min &am=
p; max LSP bandwidth information in the SCSI field;
</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Could you confirm my interpretation of your issu=
e?</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">The following is my thoughts ( subject to change=
 if the question I recapped above is not as exact as what you want to say):=
</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">The &nbsp;current method is to reuse what has al=
ready been proposed for WSON. So it reuses the SCSI field defined in WSON-O=
SPF draft (</span><a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-w=
son-signal-compatibility-ospf-15#section-3.1"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">https://tools.ie=
tf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility-ospf-15#section-3.1<=
/span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&=
quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080">).
 So, it DOES support priority (see the details are in [GEN-ENCODE] draft-ie=
tf-ccamp-general-constraint-encode-20). Exactly because of the same reason,=
 the draft under discussion uses label set field to describe what frequency=
 slots are available. So, although
 it allows for all different varieties supported by [GEN-ENCODE] (i.e., lis=
t, bitmap, inclusive, exclusive etc.), the method does not see the need of =
specify the max&amp;min LSP bandwidth since it can be naturally deduced fro=
m the available frequency spectrum information
 conveyed. &nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">The above discussion actually reminds me of a qu=
estion Ramon raised up a while ago among the authors of this draft, what ha=
s been defined in WSON-OSPF is truly usable labels in
 signaling. But with Flexi-grid, it is not true anymore. For example, altho=
ugh we use Inclusive Label Range to describe available frequency range, say=
 the example in Section 4.4 of &nbsp;draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ex=
t-01 (assume m=3D1), none of these labels
 are directly usable if what is actually requested is a bandwidth with m=3D=
2. &nbsp;I myself do not see any issue as long as we make it clear we use t=
he format just to describe what resource available NOT usable labels. Since=
 it is a WG draft, it is worthwhile to
 solicit what you think?</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Cheers,<br>
Xian</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [</span><a href=3D"ma=
ilto:rrao@infinera.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;T=
ahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</span></a><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> 2015</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=C4=EA=
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;">2</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=
=D4=C2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">26</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt">=C8=D5</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahom=
a&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 7:17<b><br>
To:</b> Daniele Ceccarelli; Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang; CCAMP (</span><a hre=
f=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;=
">)<b><br>
Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Ramon Casella=
s; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;T=
ahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible=
-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Daniele,</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Sure. &nbsp;Added WG in the list for comments.</=
span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Thx</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Rajan &nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Daniele Ceccarelli [</span><a h=
ref=3D"mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:daniele.c=
eccarelli@ericsson.com</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:45 PM<b><br>
To:</b> Rajan Rao; Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<b><br>
Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Ramon Casella=
s; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;T=
ahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible=
-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Hi all,</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">This is a really interesting discussion and sinc=
e we=A1=AFre speaking about a working group draft I think we should continu=
e con the mailing list.</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Please include the WG in your reply.</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">BR<br>
Daniele</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [</span><a href=3D"ma=
ilto:rrao@infinera.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;T=
ahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</span></a><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> mercoled=A8=AC 25 febbraio 2015 19:56<b><br>
To:</b> Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<b><br>
Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Daniele Cecca=
relli; Ramon Casellas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;T=
ahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible=
-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Haomian,</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">The priority in each layer is independent. &nbsp=
;The intent of explicitly carrying priority info in the advertisement is to=
 allow for LSP creation at different priorities. &nbsp;Note that
 priority defined in OTN RFC don=A1=AFt apply here as it is a different lay=
er. &nbsp; You can have L0-LSP setup at priority-1 but L1-Telink (OTN link)=
 formed out of this may advertise all 8 or subset of them. &nbsp;It is an i=
mplementation choice. &nbsp;I don=A1=AFt see any conflicts
 here.</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Once we agree on the following items we can figu=
re out TLV encoding options.</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">1. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Allow for Advertisement o=
f Min &amp; Max slot widths at different priorities =A8C up to 8</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">2. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Min/Max slot width field =
=A8C 16 bit instead of 8 &nbsp;(I see you are agreeing to this change below=
)</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">3. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Max LSP Bandwidth =A8C th=
is was debated in previous meetings but no firm conclusion.
</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;
</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Thx</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Rajan</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhenghaomian [</span><a href=3D=
"mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com=
</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&=
quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 24, 2015 11:35 PM<b><br>
To:</b> Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang<b><br>
Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Daniele Cecca=
relli; Ramon Casellas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<b><br>
Subject:</b> </span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=B4=F0=
=B8=B4</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: [CCAMP]
</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt</sp=
an>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Hi, Rajan,</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Thanks for the information, I noticed there is a=
 change talking about extending Flexi-grid data plan to satisfy requirement=
s in RFC4202. I forward this email to all the authors
 of OSPF draft to advertise your comments</span><span style=3D"font-size:10=
.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#004080">J</span><span style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080=
"> &nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Firstly let=A1=AFs recall the sub-TLV format in =
draft-dhillon-ccamp-flexgrid-ospfte-ext as follow:
</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-ser=
if&quot;">&nbsp; <a name=3D"section-0">
</a>0 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1 &nbs=
p; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2 &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 3</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-ser=
if&quot;">&nbsp; &nbsp; 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5=
 6 7 8 9 0 1</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-ser=
if&quot;">&nbsp; &nbsp;&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43=
;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&=
#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;</spa=
n>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-ser=
if&quot;">&nbsp; &nbsp;| &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Type=3D1=
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;| &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nb=
sp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Length &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-ser=
if&quot;">&nbsp; &nbsp;&#43;-----------------------------------------------=
----------------&#43;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-ser=
if&quot;">&nbsp; &nbsp;|Slice Spacing | Pri | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &=
nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Reserved &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp=
; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-ser=
if&quot;">&nbsp; &nbsp;&#43;-----------------------------------------------=
----------------&#43;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-ser=
if&quot;">&nbsp; &nbsp;| &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; N=
-Start &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Num =
of Slices &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-ser=
if&quot;">&nbsp; &nbsp;&#43;-----------------------------------------------=
----------------&#43;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-ser=
if&quot;">&nbsp; &nbsp;| &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Min Slot Width &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;| &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Max Slot Width &nbsp; &nbsp; &nb=
sp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-ser=
if&quot;">&nbsp; &nbsp;&#43;-----------------------------------------------=
----------------&#43;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-ser=
if&quot;">&nbsp; &nbsp;| &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &=
nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;=
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbs=
p; &nbsp; &nbsp; |</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-ser=
if&quot;">&nbsp; &nbsp;| &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &=
nbsp; &nbsp; Bit-Map showing Available Slices &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &=
nbsp; |</span>
<br>
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if&quot;">&nbsp; &nbsp;| &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &=
nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (up to 48 bytes) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nb=
sp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|</span>
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if&quot;">&nbsp; &nbsp;&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43=
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<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Then I share my understanding on your concern. C=
ompared with sub-TLV in section 4.3 of draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-=
ext-01, I highlight the difference as follow:
</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">In your proposal,
</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">1) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Slice Spacing is preferre=
d to be carried in the &nbsp;sub-TLV;
</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">2) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Priority bits are preferr=
ed to be included in sub-TLV;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">3) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Min/Max Widths should bot=
h be 16-bit;
</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">4) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;N-start and Num of Slices=
 to represent the spectrum rather than C.F.G and S.W.G;
</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Below please find my comments:
</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Firstly I believe both of your structure and the=
 current structure in WG draft are satisfying the requirement of flexi-grid=
 FWK draft (the info model in Fig. 17). We only need to
 deal with some differences in representation format, and some additional i=
nformation may be useful.
</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">1) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Different slice spacing i=
s applicable but may not be necessary; the spirit to introduce flexible gri=
d is to allow flexibility in spectrum allocation and current WG draft
 can satisfy the requirement. Not much further advantage for using slice sp=
acing;
</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">2) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Priority bits: I agree th=
at it is widely used, I am basically fine to include priority bits in the s=
ub-TLV. My only concern is, there are also such priority information
 in other place (for example OTN BW sub-TLV in Section 4.1.3 in RFC7138), d=
o we need to repeat here? What is the relationship if we have two prioritie=
s? Is it possible the OTN priority is not consistent with flexi-grid priori=
ty? Why? And How to deal with this?</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">3) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Agreed, will change both =
the min/max widths to 16-bit in the next version;
</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">4) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Personally I don=A1=AFt t=
hink it=A1=AFs necessary to change the current WG draft: I think your propo=
sed representation can have equivalent result as the one in current WG draf=
t;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Rajan, please correct me if there is misundersta=
nding, also let me know if you have other comments.
</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">All, please feel free to comments, or we move to=
 the list if necessary</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wi=
ngdings;color:#004080">J</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Best wishes,</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Haomian</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB</span=
></b><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;">:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [</span><a href=3D"mai=
lto:rrao@infinera.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</span></a><span =
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&qu=
ot;">]
<b><br>
</b></span><b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=B7=A2=CB=CD=
=CA=B1=BC=E4</span></b><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> 2015</span><sp=
an lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=C4=EA</span><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2</spa=
n><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=D4=C2</span><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">=
24</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=C8=D5</span><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;">
 4:03<b><br>
</b></span><b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=CA=D5=BC=FE=
=C8=CB</span></b><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial=
&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhenghaomian; Fatai =
Zhang<b><br>
</b></span><b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=B3=AD=CB=CD<=
/span></b><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;">:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar =
Hussain<b><br>
</b></span><b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=D6=F7=CC=E2<=
/span></b><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;">:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> RE: [CCAMP]
</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-ser=
if&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt</spa=
n>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Haomian,</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">The Flexgrid FWK doc has been updated with refer=
ence to RFC4202. &nbsp; This should address the comment you had in the earl=
ier email. &nbsp;Pl refer to updated doc (attached email from Ramon).
 &nbsp;Pl let us know how you would like to proceed. </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">FWK doc Snip below:</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">5.1.2.=
 &nbsp;Routing</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;=
</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;=
 &nbsp;The routing protocol will support all functions as described in</spa=
n>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;=
 &nbsp;[RFC4202] and extend them to a flexi-grid data plane.</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Thx</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Rajan</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao
<b><br>
Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 03, 2015 2:28 PM<b><br>
To:</b> Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<b><br>
Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;T=
ahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible=
-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Haomian,</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Thx for the reply. Pl see below.</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Zhenghaomian [</span><a href=3D"mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;">mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
<br>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 11:22 PM<br>
To: Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang<br>
Cc: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain<br>
Subject: </span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=B4=F0=B8=B4</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: [CCAMP]
</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=
=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-gri=
d-ospf-ext-01.txt</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">Hi, Rajan,</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">Firstly sorry for the very late response.</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">For your first concern, I see some difference in TLVs about pr=
iority issue (Table I in your draft). I think I understand your description=
 but I didn't find very much advantage to include such
 'scalable' settings. </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">RR&gt;&gt; Priority based advertisement is prett=
y standard mechanism used in all existing RFCs. &nbsp;For e.g. you can find=
 these in WSON, OTN &nbsp;docs and any other Te-extensions draft.
</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">Another concern from me is, for the flexi-grid literature, the=
re are more than one WG draft, I think it's better to consider such case in=
 fwk draft, and after that the OSPF one can revise accordingly.
 P.S, I don't know whether this topic was discussed on the list before (per=
haps there are some conclusions, let me know). If not, I would like to sugg=
est move to the list.</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">RR&gt;&gt; I looked at framework. &nbsp;Yes, it =
doesn=A1=AFt talk about priority based advertisement. &nbsp;Thanks for poin=
ting this out. Good catch. We will provide this comment to FWK authors &amp=
; CC
 you. &nbsp;I do not see any issue updating the fwk doc with this detail. &=
nbsp; </span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">For your second concern on Max LSP Bandwidth, my understanding=
 is you are trying to use the description in section 3.2 of your draft to r=
eplace the one in section 4.3 of current WG draft. Is
 this true? I believe the description in your draft is clear and correct. B=
TW, I noticed bit difference in Min Bandwidth (16 bits allocated in your dr=
aft and 8 bit in current WG draft), hopefully this will not be a big issue =
(8 bit support a bandwidth up to
 3200GHz, which is absolutely more than the normal requirement for a minima=
l BW).</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">RR&gt;&gt; &nbsp;Yes, I was referring to section=
 3.2 in our draft. &nbsp;
</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">We went with 16-bit fields for Min &amp; Max fie=
lds as the values for these fields range from 0 =A8C 384. &nbsp;We tried to=
 address the case of using full spectrum BW as one LSP. &nbsp;This is an
 extreme case but can=A1=AFt be ruled out.</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Pl let me know if you have any other comments.</=
span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">Thanks.</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">Best wishes,</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">Haomian</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">-----</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:MingLiU">=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE</span><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">-----</span>
<br>
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=B7=A2=
=BC=FE=C8=CB</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: Rajan Rao [</span><a href=3D"mailto:rrao@=
infinera.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</span></a><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;=
">]
</span><br>
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=B7=A2=
=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: 2014</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C4=EA</span><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;">12</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=D4=C2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">18</span><span lang=3D"Z=
H-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C8=D5</=
span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">
 6:09</span> <br>
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&=
quot;">=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family=
:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang</s=
pan>
<br>
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&=
quot;">=B3=AD=CB=CD</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain=
</span>
<br>
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&=
quot;">=D6=F7</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:MingLiU">=CC=E2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: RE: [CCAMP]
</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=
=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-gri=
d-ospf-ext-01.txt</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">Haomian,</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">As I had mentioned we are no longer pushing for SuperChannel i=
n the draft. &nbsp;So, this should make it easier to merge the docs.</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">In my view there are couple of areas your draft doesn't addres=
s which can be taken from our draft:</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">1. &nbsp;You have separated Max &amp; Min Slot width in Port L=
abel restriction sub-TLV. &nbsp;This is O.K. But this doesn't allow for pri=
ority based Min/Max usage. &nbsp; Our draft allows for this flexibility whi=
ch
 can be used.</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">2. &nbsp;Max LSP Bandwidth field definition can be taken from =
our doc.</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">The priority handling can be further simplified by merging sli=
ce info &amp; Min/Max fields in to a single sub-TLV if other authors agree.=
</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">Pl let me know.</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">Thx</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">Rajan</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">-----Original Message-----</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">From: Zhenghaomian [</span><a href=3D"mailto:zhenghaomian@huaw=
ei.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com</span></a><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;=
">]
</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 5:15 PM</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">To: Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">Cc: Khuzema Pithewan</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">Subject: </span>
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&=
quot;">=B4=F0=B8=B4</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: [CCAMP]
</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=
=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-gri=
d-ospf-ext-01.txt</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">Hi, Rajan and Khuzema,</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">Thanks for reminding. Do you guys have any suggestion on how t=
o merge? Even if we think the current draft is self-contained, we are still=
 open on this.
</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">I know there are some different ideas from Infinera, but sorry=
 I am not fully understand every detail. Please let me know the exact secti=
on that need to be updated and let's see how to proceed.
 Again, this will finally be determined by the WG since already adopted. </=
span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">Thanks.</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">Best wishes,</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">Haomian</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">-----</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:MingLiU">=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE</span><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">-----</span>
<br>
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=B7=A2=
=BC=FE=C8=CB</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: Rajan Rao [</span><a href=3D"mailto:rrao@=
infinera.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</span></a><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;=
">]
</span><br>
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=B7=A2=
=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: 2014</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C4=EA</span><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;">12</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=D4=C2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">17</span><span lang=3D"Z=
H-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C8=D5</=
span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">
 6:01</span> <br>
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&=
quot;">=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family=
:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang</s=
pan>
<br>
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&=
quot;">=B3=AD=CB=CD</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: Khuzema Pithewan</span>
<br>
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&=
quot;">=D6=F7</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:MingLiU">=CC=E2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: RE: [CCAMP]
</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=
=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-gri=
d-ospf-ext-01.txt</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">Haomian,</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">We had sent couple of emails asking about merging the contents=
 with our draft. &nbsp;Do you see an opportunity or any issues with the mer=
ge? &nbsp;Can you pl respond on how you would like to proceed? Pl
 see the attached email we had sent a while back.</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">Thanks</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">Rajan</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">-----Original Message-----</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">From: CCAMP [</span><a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org">=
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</span></a><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
 On Behalf Of Zhenghaomian</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 12:24 AM</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">To: </span><a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">ccam=
p@ietf.org</span></a>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">Subject: [CCAMP]
</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=
=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-gri=
d-ospf-ext-01.txt</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">Dear CCAMPers,</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">We upload an updated version to reactivate the following draft=
 against expiration, together updating the Max width issue proposed in prev=
ious discussions. Your comments are highly welcomed, thanks.</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">Best wishes,</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">Haomian on behalf of authors</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">-----</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:MingLiU">=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE</span><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">-----</span>
<br>
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=B7=A2=
=BC=FE=C8=CB</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: CCAMP [</span><a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bou=
nces@ietf.org"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</span></a><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;">]
</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS =
Gothic&quot;">=B4=FA=B1=ED</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10=
.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><a href=3D"mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">internet-dr=
afts@ietf.org</span></a>
<br>
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=B7=A2=
=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: 2014</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C4=EA</span><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;">12</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=D4=C2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">16</span><span lang=3D"Z=
H-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C8=D5</=
span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">
 16:16</span> <br>
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&=
quot;">=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family=
:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">:
</span><a href=3D"mailto:i-d-announce@ietf.org"><span style=3D"font-size:10=
.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">i-d-announce@i=
etf.org</span></a>
<br>
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&=
quot;">=B3=AD=CB=CD</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">:
</span><a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">ccamp@ietf.org</span>=
</a>
<br>
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&=
quot;">=D6=F7</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:MingLiU">=CC=E2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cca=
mp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Dr=
afts directories.</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measuremen=
t Plane Working Group of the IETF.</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Title &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; : GMPLS OSPF-TE Extensions in support of Flexible Grid</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Authors &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp=
; : Xian Zhang</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;=
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serif&quot;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Filenam=
e &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.t=
xt</span>
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serif&quot;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Date &n=
bsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: 2014-12-16</span>
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serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
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serif&quot;">Abstract:</span>
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<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp; &nbsp;This memo describes the OSPF-TE extensions in sup=
port of GMPLS</span>
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<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp; &nbsp;control of networks that include devices that use=
 the new flexible</span>
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<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp; &nbsp;optical grid.</span>
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serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
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serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span> <br>
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serif&quot;">The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:</span>
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ospf-ext/"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-f=
lexible-grid-ospf-ext/</span></a>
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xt-01"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;">http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-gr=
id-ospf-ext-01</span></a>
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serif&quot;">A diff from the previous version is available at:</span>
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d-ospf-ext-01"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-c=
camp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01</span></a>
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nd Rajan,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I think Qi=
lei meant that the example Rajan gave is nothing with Min LSP BW *<b>per Pr=
iority</b>*,
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family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp=
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family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">To address=
 the example (potential compatible issue and might *<b>Never</b>* happen ac=
cording to the LS from ITU-T SG15) &nbsp;from Rajan, I think only
 one simple flag (if needed in the future) to be added is sufficient. <o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
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bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Best Regards<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
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raph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Fatai<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>wang.qilei@zte.com.cn<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 05, 2015 9:07 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'CCAMP'; Iftekhar Hussain<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&qu=
ot;">Rajan,</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">
<br>
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Sorry about this. &nbsp;What I really want=
ed to express is how to use the Min LSP BW for each priority. Just from my =
opinion, it will be necessary to advertise the Min LSP BW priority
 info as long as you point out we SHOULD use it somewhere.</span><span lang=
=3D"EN-US">
<br>
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">As this thread is talking about this, I th=
ink maybe an example would help understanding.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">
<br>
<br>
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Thanks</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Qilei</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">
<br>
<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;fon=
t-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Rajan Rao &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:rrao@infinera.com">rrao@infinera.com</a>&gt;</span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;san=
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<p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2015-03-05 04:55</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">
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amily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&quot;<a href=3D"mailto:wan=
g.qilei@zte.com.cn">wang.qilei@zte.com.cn</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:w=
ang.qilei@zte.com.cn">wang.qilei@zte.com.cn</a>&gt;,
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&quot;<a href=3D"mailto:adr=
ian@olddog.co.uk">adrian@olddog.co.uk</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:adria=
n@olddog.co.uk">adrian@olddog.co.uk</a>&gt;, 'CCAMP' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a>&gt;,
 Iftekhar Hussain &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:IHussain@infinera.com">IHussain@inf=
inera.com</a>&gt;, 'Ramon Casellas' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ramon.casellas@ct=
tc.es">ramon.casellas@cttc.es</a>&gt;, &quot;'Zhangxian (Xian)'&quot; &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com">zhang.xian@huawei.com</a>&gt;</span=
><span lang=3D"EN-US">
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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le=3D"font-size:7.5pt">=D6=F7=CC=E2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p></o:p><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: dra=
ft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=
<br>
<br>
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080">Qilei,</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US">
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US">
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080">I gave to technological ad=
vance e.g. earlier. &nbsp;Here is a simple e.g. when you would need Min LSP=
 BW info:</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US">
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080">A-----B------C
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US">
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080">Network A-B-C exists with =
12.5GHz min granularity. &nbsp; Today=A1=AFs network</span><span lang=3D"EN=
-US">
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US">
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080">Introduce &nbsp;C-D link w=
hich is 6.25GHz capable: Tomorrow=A1=AFs network growth</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US">
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US">
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080">A=A1=AAB---C---D</span><sp=
an lang=3D"EN-US">
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US">
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080">D is computing path to A. =
&nbsp;All it needs is 6.25GHz. &nbsp; Links A-B and B-C don=A1=AFt support =
this. &nbsp; How will D know about this?</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US">
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080">Hope this helps. &nbsp; &n=
bsp;The discussion is around the need to advertise this info for each prior=
ity.
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080">Regards</span><span lang=
=3D"EN-US">
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080">Rajan</span><span lang=3D"=
EN-US">
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US">
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US">
<br>
</span><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&qu=
ot;">
<a href=3D"mailto:wang.qilei@zte.com.cn">wang.qilei@zte.com.cn</a> [</span>=
<span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:wang.qilei@zte.com.cn"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>mailto:wang.qilei@zte.com.cn</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 04, 2015 1:12 AM<b><br>
To:</b> Rajan Rao<b><br>
Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk">adrian@olddog.co.uk</a>; 'CC=
AMP'; Iftekhar Hussain; 'Ramon Casellas'; 'Zhangxian (Xian)'<b><br>
Subject:</b> Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ex=
t-01.txt</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Rajan,</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D=
"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Can you give us a detailed example about the use of &quot;Minimum LSP bandw=
idth&quot;?</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Currently, I can not feel the importance of this information.</span><span l=
ang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;=
">
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
I like Ramon's answer: &quot;It may be short-sighted to discard the option&=
quot;, so please go on.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&qu=
ot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
<br>
<br>
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Thanks</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&q=
uot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot=
;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Qilei</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> <br>
<br>
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;fon=
t-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Rajan Rao &lt;</span></b=
><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com"><b><span style=
=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">r=
rao@infinera.com</span></b></a></span><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font=
-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;</spa=
n></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial=
&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB</span><span lang=
=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;">: &nbsp;&quot;CCAMP&quot; &lt;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a=
 href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font=
-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</s=
pan></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2015-03-04 09:11</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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pt .75pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"right" style=3D"text-align:right"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:7.5pt">=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
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75pt .75pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&quot;</span><span lang=3D"=
EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5p=
t;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">adrian@olddog.co.uk=
</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family=
:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&quot;
 &lt;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&=
quot;">adrian@olddog.co.uk</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"f=
ont-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;, =
&quot;'Zhangxian (Xian)'&quot;
 &lt;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com"><=
span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;">zhang.xian@huawei.com</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=
=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&=
gt;, 'CCAMP' &lt;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.o=
rg"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans=
-serif&quot;">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D=
"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;=
,
 'Ramon Casellas' &lt;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:ramon.c=
asellas@cttc.es"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">ramon.casellas@cttc.es</span></a></span><span la=
ng=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;">&gt;,
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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le=3D"font-size:7.5pt">=B3=AD=CB=CD</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Iftekhar Hussain &lt;</span=
><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:IHussain@infinera.com"><span style=
=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">I=
Hussain@infinera.com</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-si=
ze:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;</span><=
span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"right" style=3D"text-align:right"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:7.5pt">=D6=F7=CC=E2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: &nb=
sp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt</spa=
n><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang=3D"EN-US"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;"><br>
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Adrian,</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&=
quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Looks like there is different interpretation of RFC 4202 text. &nbsp;RFC 42=
02 text in sections 2.4.2 &amp; 2.4.3 &nbsp;says &nbsp;</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
=A1=B0=A1=AD..</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Courier New&quot;">an LSP at priority</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
 style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cou=
rier New&quot;"><br>
&nbsp;p could reserve any bandwidth between the Minimum LSP Bandwidth and</=
span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans=
-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cou=
rier New&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; the Maximum LSP Bandwidth <span style=3D"color:red">at priority p</s=
pan>, provided that the bandwidth=A1=AD..=A1=B1</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Having only the Maximum LSP bandwidth field priority based &amp; not the Mi=
nimum LSP bandwidth field doesn=A1=AFt seem right. &nbsp;It is a simplifica=
tion for sure. &nbsp;What is the correct interpretation of above text? &nbs=
p;Will be good to know.
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Thx</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Rajan</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Adrian Farrel [</span><span lan=
g=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:adria=
n@olddog.co.uk</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 03, 2015 7:45 AM<b><br>
To:</b> 'Zhangxian (Xian)'; Rajan Rao; 'CCAMP'; 'Ramon Casellas'<b><br>
Cc:</b> Iftekhar Hussain<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ex=
t-01.txt</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Hi,</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
[Speaking as a regular contributor which, praise be, I will in just three w=
eeks' time. Not that I'm counting...]</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"f=
ont-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
There is some up-levelling to be done here.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" styl=
e=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Rajan seems to be proposing a new concept that would allow us to advertise =
not just the bandwidth available at each priority (per 4202) but also to va=
ry the constraints on allocation per priority. This would allow us to say t=
hat priority x LSPs can only use
 chunks of bandwidth between sizes a and b, while priority y LSPs can only =
chunks of bandwidth between sizes c and d.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
I have three questions:</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&qu=
ot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
- Is this a valid thing to want to do in any technology?</span><span lang=
=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
- Is it something we want to do in Flexigrid?</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
- Is it something that should be generalised?</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Thanks,</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&=
quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Adrian</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&q=
uot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> CCAMP [</span><span lang=3D"EN-=
US"><a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:ccamp-boun=
ces@ietf.org</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0p=
t;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Zhangxian (Xian)<b><br>
Sent:</b> 03 March 2015 07:22<b><br>
To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:cca=
mp@ietf.org"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-U=
S" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;">);
 'Ramon Casellas'<b><br>
Cc:</b> Iftekhar Hussain<b><br>
Subject:</b> Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ex=
t-01.txt</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#620012"><br>
Hi, Rajan, </span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0p=
t;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:rrao@infine=
ra.com</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> 2015</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=C4=EA</span><span la=
ng=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;">3</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=D4=C2</span><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">3</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=C8=D5</s=
pan><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma=
&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 8:56<b><br>
To:</b> Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"mai=
lto:ccamp@ietf.org"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahom=
a&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a></span><span lang=
=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;">);
 'Ramon Casellas'<b><br>
Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ex=
t-01.txt</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Xian,</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Minimum LSP bandwidth will address technological advances. For e.g. tomorro=
w=A1=AFs 6.25GHz &nbsp;instead of today=A1=AFs 12.5GHz. GMPLS extensions sh=
ould cover the case of network having a mix of different hardware capabilit=
ies.
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#620012"><br>
[Xian]: I agree with the above statements. But they are a property of an in=
terface, which AFAIC does not change over time. That=A1=AFs why I said it h=
ave already be covered by Section 4.3 (please take a look if any informatio=
n is missing as well). &nbsp;ISCD, especially
 SCSI is used to advertise the available bandwidth information and it is ch=
anging dynamically. So, I do not think SCSI is the right place to do so.</s=
pan><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Advertising per priority aligns with RFC4202. &nbsp;I don=A1=AFt see any is=
sues.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#620012"><br>
[Xian] I have to disagree. &nbsp; RFC4202 does not support advertising min =
LSP bandwidth per priority. Please take a look at the encoding of Section 1=
.4. of RFC4203. What=A1=AFs said there: for PSC and TDM, you carry ONE mini=
mum LSP bandwidth information (which is not
 associated per priority); for Lambda switching, it does not have any SCSI =
at all.
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#620012"><br>
Having said all these, I personally do not think the value of advertising m=
in LSP bandwidth per priority. If you disagree again, could you give me an =
usage example? &nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot=
;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
As far as Maximum LSP bandwidth goes, either option would work but my prefe=
rence would be to put it in technology specific part (SCSI).</span><span la=
ng=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#620012"><br>
[Xian]: point taken. I agree with you that both work but I would prefer to =
take Option 1. Let=A1=AFs get a bit more feedback from the WG before updati=
ng the draft.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#620012"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#620012"><br>
Regards,<br>
Xian</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Thx</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Rajan</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhangxian (Xian) [</span><span =
lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com"><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:=
zhang.xian@huawei.com</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:35 PM<b><br>
To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:cca=
mp@ietf.org"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-U=
S" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;">);
 'Ramon Casellas'<b><br>
Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ex=
t-01.txt</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Hi, Rajan, all, <br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;=A1=B0Min &amp; Max slot=A1=B1 you mentioned below is a=
 bit mis-leading. I think you wanted to say =A1=B0Min &amp; Max LSP bandwid=
th=A1=B1. Let talk them one by one since we are not aligned yet on both.
<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Why do we need to advertise Min LSP bandwidth per prior=
ity in ISCD, e.g., a request cannot set up a LSP smaller than X GHz and it =
varies per priority? If you &nbsp;meant to say the interface limitation, it=
 is covered in Section 4.3 already. &nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;As for the Max LSP bandwidth information, I agree with =
you that RFC4204 has this requirement. This draft (draft-ietf-ccamp-flexibl=
e-grid-ospf-ext-01) needs to be updated to reflect this. I can think of two=
 options:
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Option A: use the existing fields (MAX LSP Bandwidth at priority x, x=3D0-7=
) &nbsp;in the ISCD (defined in Section 1.4. of RFC4203). The point that we=
 need to update is the unit to be usable in the context of Flexi-grid. It w=
ill be Hz not byte per second.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-fam=
ily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Option B: We add the max LSP bandwidth field (16 bit) in the Available Labe=
ls Field by using the Reserved field. &nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;Which option does the WG prefer?</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Regards,<br>
Xian</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0p=
t;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:rrao@infine=
ra.com</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> 2015</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=C4=EA</span><span la=
ng=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;">2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=D4=C2</span><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">28</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=C8=D5</=
span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahom=
a&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 2:51<b><br>
To:</b> Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"mai=
lto:ccamp@ietf.org"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahom=
a&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a></span><span lang=
=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;">);
 'Ramon Casellas'<b><br>
Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ex=
t-01.txt</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Xian, all</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Section 4.3 is trying to use port label restrictions sub-TLV with a new res=
triction type. &nbsp;This is fine. &nbsp;But how does a path computing node=
 determine if it can use the link to setup an LSP with N-slots @ priority =
=A1=AEp=A1=AF? &nbsp; For e.g &nbsp;I don=A1=AFt want to allow priority
 7 LSPs to use bandwidth greater than 20 slots on the link but allow for LS=
Ps with priority 0, 1 &amp; 2. &nbsp;Where is this info in the TLV?</span><=
span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
We had given examples when we presented our draft in Taipei IETF-82. &nbsp;=
Ref slides 8 &amp; 10 (link below). &nbsp;We had coverage for advertisement=
 of &nbsp;Min &amp; Max slot widths per priority. This is meant to align wi=
th RFC 4202. &nbsp;I believe WG doc lacks this and needs to
 address.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> <u><span style=3D"color:blue"><br>
</span></u></span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/proce=
edings/82/slides/ccamp-18.pdf"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">http://www.ietf.org/proceedings=
/82/slides/ccamp-18.pdf</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font=
-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
thx</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Rajan</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhangxian (Xian) [</span><span =
lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com"><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:=
zhang.xian@huawei.com</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> Thursday, February 26, 2015 5:33 PM<b><br>
To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:cca=
mp@ietf.org"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-U=
S" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;">);
 'Ramon Casellas'<b><br>
Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ex=
t-01.txt</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Hi, Rajan and all,</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Thank you for your clarification and I now fully understand your question. =
I think you have misunderstood Section 4.3. of this draft. It was not to de=
scribe dynamic Max &amp; Min LSP bandwidth but rather the capability/constr=
aint associated with an port, which
 rarely change over time.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&=
quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Isn=A1=AFt information per priority already supported? Quoting text from th=
e drafts referred:</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
=A1=B0</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">The technology specific part of the W=
SON ISCD may include a variable</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Aria=
l&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; number of sub-TLVs called Bandwidth sub-TLVs.=A1=B1</span><span lang=
=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Aria=
l&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
As for the Mix and Max LSP bandwidth, could you give me an example of what =
you said below, i.e.,=A1=B0Availability of &nbsp;=A1=AEN=A1=AF consecutive =
labels doesn=A1=AFt mean you can setup an LSP with a size of =A1=AEN=A1=AF=
=A1=B1?
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;What does the WG think of the issue under discussion?</span><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&=
quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Regards,</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Xian</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0p=
t;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:rrao@infine=
ra.com</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> 2015</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=C4=EA</span><span la=
ng=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;">2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=D4=C2</span><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">27</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=C8=D5</=
span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahom=
a&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 4:03<b><br>
To:</b> Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"mai=
lto:ccamp@ietf.org"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahom=
a&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a></span><span lang=
=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;">);
 'Ramon Casellas'<b><br>
Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ex=
t-01.txt</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Xian,</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
I understand this doc is trying to reuse GEN-ENCODE &amp; there is support =
for priority. &nbsp;I am not referring to this one. &nbsp;The Min Width &am=
p; Max &nbsp;Width fields do exist in the draft but these alone are not suf=
ficient. We need info per priority for the following reason.</span><span la=
ng=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
The intent of Min &amp; Max width info is to specify what is the Minimum/Ma=
ximum LSP bandwidth an LSP could reserve at a given priority =A1=AEp=A1=AF =
on the link. &nbsp;You can draw parallel to =A1=AEMinimum LSP Bandwidth=A1=
=AF &amp; =A1=AEMaximum LSP Bandwidth=A1=AF fields in RFC 4202. &nbsp;
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
I don=A1=AFt understand how you can derive this from label set field. &nbsp=
; Availability of &nbsp;=A1=AEN=A1=AF consecutive labels doesn=A1=AFt mean =
you can setup an LSP with a size of =A1=AEN=A1=AF. &nbsp;</span><span lang=
=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Thx</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Rajan</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhangxian (Xian) [</span><span =
lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com"><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:=
zhang.xian@huawei.com</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 25, 2015 5:37 PM<b><br>
To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:cca=
mp@ietf.org"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-U=
S" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;">);
 'Ramon Casellas'<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ex=
t-01.txt</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Hi, Rajan,</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot=
;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;As I was not involved earlier, I find the following may be &nb=
sp;a bit long for others in the WG to get involved. &nbsp;Before I dive int=
o the discussion and share my thoughts, am I accurate if I recap the questi=
on as:</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&q=
uot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
&nbsp; You think the existing text in draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-e=
xt-01 do not support the following:
<br>
1) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Do not support priority; <br>
2) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Do not convey the min &amp; max LSP bandwidth inform=
ation in the SCSI field; <br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Could you confirm my interpretation of your issue?</span><span lang=3D"EN-U=
S" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
The following is my thoughts ( subject to change if the question I recapped=
 above is not as exact as what you want to say):</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
 style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
The &nbsp;current method is to reuse what has already been proposed for WSO=
N. So it reuses the SCSI field defined in WSON-OSPF draft (</span><span lan=
g=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-si=
gnal-compatibility-ospf-15#section-3.1"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">https://tools.ietf.org=
/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility-ospf-15#section-3.1</span>=
</a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080">).
 So, it DOES support priority (see the details are in [GEN-ENCODE] draft-ie=
tf-ccamp-general-constraint-encode-20). Exactly because of the same reason,=
 the draft under discussion uses label set field to describe what frequency=
 slots are available. So, although
 it allows for all different varieties supported by [GEN-ENCODE] (i.e., lis=
t, bitmap, inclusive, exclusive etc.), the method does not see the need of =
specify the max&amp;min LSP bandwidth since it can be naturally deduced fro=
m the available frequency spectrum information
 conveyed. &nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
The above discussion actually reminds me of a question Ramon raised up a wh=
ile ago among the authors of this draft, what has been defined in WSON-OSPF=
 is truly usable labels in signaling. But with Flexi-grid, it is not true a=
nymore. For example, although we
 use Inclusive Label Range to describe available frequency range, say the e=
xample in Section 4.4 of &nbsp;draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01 (=
assume m=3D1), none of these labels are directly usable if what is actually=
 requested is a bandwidth with m=3D2. &nbsp;I
 myself do not see any issue as long as we make it clear we use the format =
just to describe what resource available NOT usable labels. Since it is a W=
G draft, it is worthwhile to solicit what you think?</span><span lang=3D"EN=
-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Cheers,<br>
Xian</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0p=
t;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:rrao@infine=
ra.com</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> 2015</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=C4=EA</span><span la=
ng=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;">2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=D4=C2</span><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">26</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=C8=D5</=
span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahom=
a&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 7:17<b><br>
To:</b> Daniele Ceccarelli; Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang; CCAMP (</span><span =
lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">ccamp@ietf.org=
</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">)<b><br>
Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Ramon Casella=
s; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=D7=AA=B7=
=A2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexibl=
e-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quo=
t;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Daniele,</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Sure. &nbsp;Added WG in the list for comments.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" s=
tyle=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Thx</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Rajan &nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Daniele Ceccarelli [</span><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&qu=
ot;">mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com</span></a></span><span lang=3D"=
EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:45 PM<b><br>
To:</b> Rajan Rao; Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<b><br>
Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Ramon Casella=
s; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=D7=AA=B7=
=A2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexibl=
e-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quo=
t;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Hi all,</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&=
quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
This is a really interesting discussion and since we=A1=AFre speaking about=
 a working group draft I think we should continue con the mailing list.</sp=
an><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-s=
erif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Please include the WG in your reply.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"fo=
nt-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
BR<br>
Daniele</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&=
quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0p=
t;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:rrao@infine=
ra.com</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> mercoled=A8=AC 25 febbraio 2015 19:56<b><br>
To:</b> Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<b><br>
Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Daniele Cecca=
relli; Ramon Casellas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=D7=AA=B7=
=A2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexibl=
e-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quo=
t;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Haomian,</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
The priority in each layer is independent. &nbsp;The intent of explicitly c=
arrying priority info in the advertisement is to allow for LSP creation at =
different priorities. &nbsp;Note that priority defined in OTN RFC don=A1=AF=
t apply here as it is a different layer. &nbsp; You
 can have L0-LSP setup at priority-1 but L1-Telink (OTN link) formed out of=
 this may advertise all 8 or subset of them. &nbsp;It is an implementation =
choice. &nbsp;I don=A1=AFt see any conflicts here.</span><span lang=3D"EN-U=
S" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Once we agree on the following items we can figure out TLV encoding options=
.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
1. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Allow for Advertisement of Min &amp; Max slot widths=
 at different priorities =A8C up to 8</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"f=
ont-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
2. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Min/Max slot width field =A8C 16 bit instead of 8 &n=
bsp;(I see you are agreeing to this change below)</span><span lang=3D"EN-US=
" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
3. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Max LSP Bandwidth =A8C this was debated in previous =
meetings but no firm conclusion.
<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Thx</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Rajan</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhenghaomian [</span><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:zh=
enghaomian@huawei.com</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 24, 2015 11:35 PM<b><br>
To:</b> Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang<b><br>
Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Daniele Cecca=
relli; Ramon Casellas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<b><br>
Subject:</b> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=B4=F0=B8=B4</span><sp=
an lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: [CCAMP]
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D"EN=
-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt</sp=
an><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-s=
erif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Hi, Rajan,</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot=
;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Thanks for the information, I noticed there is a change talking about exten=
ding Flexi-grid data plan to satisfy requirements in RFC4202. I forward thi=
s email to all the authors of OSPF draft to advertise your comments</span><=
span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#=
004080">J</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080">
 &nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&=
quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><b=
r>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Firstly let=A1=AFs recall the sub-TLV format in draft-dhillon-ccamp-flexgri=
d-ospfte-ext as follow:
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;=
font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp;<a name=3D"section-0"></a>0 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;=
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &n=
bsp; &nbsp; 2 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp=
; 3</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Aria=
l&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 =
1</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Aria=
l&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; &#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#=
43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;=
-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;</span><span lang=3D"=
EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Aria=
l&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Type=3D1 &nbsp; &nbsp; &=
nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;| &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp=
;Length &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Aria=
l&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; &#43;---------------------------------------------------------------=
&#43;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Aria=
l&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; |Slice Spacing | Pri | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nb=
sp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Reserved &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp;|</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&=
quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Aria=
l&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; &#43;---------------------------------------------------------------=
&#43;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Aria=
l&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; N-Start &nbsp; &n=
bsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Num of Slices &nbsp;=
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quo=
t;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Aria=
l&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; &#43;---------------------------------------------------------------=
&#43;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Aria=
l&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Min Slot Width &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &n=
bsp;| &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Max Slot Width &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp=
;|</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Aria=
l&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; &#43;---------------------------------------------------------------=
&#43;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Aria=
l&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nb=
sp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &=
nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;=
 |</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Aria=
l&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Bit=
-Map showing Available Slices &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |</span><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&=
quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Aria=
l&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nb=
sp; (up to 48 bytes) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp=
; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"f=
ont-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Aria=
l&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; &#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#=
43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;=
-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;</span><span lang=3D"=
EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Then I share my understanding on your concern. Compared with sub-TLV in sec=
tion 4.3 of draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01, I highlight the dif=
ference as follow:
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
In your proposal, <br>
1) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Slice Spacing is preferred to be carried in the &nbs=
p;sub-TLV; <br>
2) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Priority bits are preferred to be included in sub-TL=
V;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
3) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Min/Max Widths should both be 16-bit; <br>
4) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;N-start and Num of Slices to represent the spectrum =
rather than C.F.G and S.W.G;
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Below please find my comments: <br>
Firstly I believe both of your structure and the current structure in WG dr=
aft are satisfying the requirement of flexi-grid FWK draft (the info model =
in Fig. 17). We only need to deal with some differences in representation f=
ormat, and some additional information
 may be useful. <br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
1) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Different slice spacing is applicable but may not be=
 necessary; the spirit to introduce flexible grid is to allow flexibility i=
n spectrum allocation and current WG draft can satisfy the requirement. Not=
 much further advantage for using slice spacing;
<br>
2) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Priority bits: I agree that it is widely used, I am =
basically fine to include priority bits in the sub-TLV. My only concern is,=
 there are also such priority information in other place (for example OTN B=
W sub-TLV in Section 4.1.3 in RFC7138), do we need
 to repeat here? What is the relationship if we have two priorities? Is it =
possible the OTN priority is not consistent with flexi-grid priority? Why? =
And How to deal with this?</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:=
&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
3) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Agreed, will change both the min/max widths to 16-bi=
t in the next version;
<br>
4) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Personally I don=A1=AFt think it=A1=AFs necessary to=
 change the current WG draft: I think your proposed representation can have=
 equivalent result as the one in current WG draft;</span><span lang=3D"EN-U=
S" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Rajan, please correct me if there is misunderstanding, also let me know if =
you have other comments.
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
All, please feel free to comments, or we move to the list if necessary</spa=
n><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;colo=
r:#004080">J</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Best wishes,</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Haomian</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&=
quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span></b><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB</span></b=
><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan =
Rao [</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">=
]
<b><br>
</b></span><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4</sp=
an></b><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">=
 2015</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=C4=EA</span><span lang=3D"EN-=
US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;">2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=D4=C2</span><span lang=
=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">24</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=C8=D5</span><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&q=
uot;sans-serif&quot;">
 4:03<b><br>
</b></span><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span></b=
><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhengh=
aomian; Fatai Zhang<b><br>
</b></span><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=B3=AD=CB=CD</span></b><b><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;">:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size=
:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Khuzema Pith=
ewan; Iftekhar Hussain<b><br>
</b></span><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=D6=F7=CC=E2</span></b><b><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;">:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size=
:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> RE: [CCAMP]
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D"EN=
-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-ser=
if&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt</spa=
n><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
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ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Haomian,</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
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ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
The Flexgrid FWK doc has been updated with reference to RFC4202. &nbsp; Thi=
s should address the comment you had in the earlier email. &nbsp;Pl refer t=
o updated doc (attached email from Ramon). &nbsp;Pl let us know how you wou=
ld like to proceed.
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</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
FWK doc Snip below:</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;A=
rial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
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ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><br>
5.1.2. &nbsp;Routing</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;=
Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
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rier New&quot;"><br>
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ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; The routing protocol will support all functions as described in</spa=
n><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">
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rier New&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; [RFC4202] and extend them to a flexi-grid data plane.</span><span la=
ng=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Thx</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Rajan</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao
<b><br>
Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 03, 2015 2:28 PM<b><br>
To:</b> Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<b><br>
Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=D7=AA=B7=
=A2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexibl=
e-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quo=
t;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
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ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Haomian,</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
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ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
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ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Thx for the reply. Pl see below.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-f=
amily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
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ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
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ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Zhenghaomian [</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:zhenghaom=
ian@huawei.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com</span></a></spa=
n><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
<br>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 11:22 PM<br>
To: Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang<br>
Cc: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain<br>
Subject: </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic=
&quot;">=B4=F0=B8=B4</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: [CCAMP]
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</s=
pan><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-gri=
d-ospf-ext-01.txt</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
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ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Hi, Rajan,</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot=
;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Firstly sorry for the very late response.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
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ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
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ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
For your first concern, I see some difference in TLVs about priority issue =
(Table I in your draft). I think I understand your description but I didn't=
 find very much advantage to include such 'scalable' settings.
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
RR&gt;&gt; Priority based advertisement is pretty standard mechanism used i=
n all existing RFCs. &nbsp;For e.g. you can find these in WSON, OTN &nbsp;d=
ocs and any other Te-extensions draft.
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Another concern from me is, for the flexi-grid literature, there are more t=
han one WG draft, I think it's better to consider such case in fwk draft, a=
nd after that the OSPF one can revise accordingly. P.S, I don't know whethe=
r this topic was discussed on the
 list before (perhaps there are some conclusions, let me know). If not, I w=
ould like to suggest move to the list.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"=
font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
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ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
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ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
RR&gt;&gt; I looked at framework. &nbsp;Yes, it doesn=A1=AFt talk about pri=
ority based advertisement. &nbsp;Thanks for pointing this out. Good catch. =
We will provide this comment to FWK authors &amp; CC you. &nbsp;I do not se=
e any issue updating the fwk doc with this detail. &nbsp;
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
For your second concern on Max LSP Bandwidth, my understanding is you are t=
rying to use the description in section 3.2 of your draft to replace the on=
e in section 4.3 of current WG draft. Is this true? I believe the descripti=
on in your draft is clear and correct.
 BTW, I noticed bit difference in Min Bandwidth (16 bits allocated in your =
draft and 8 bit in current WG draft), hopefully this will not be a big issu=
e (8 bit support a bandwidth up to 3200GHz, which is absolutely more than t=
he normal requirement for a minimal
 BW).</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
RR&gt;&gt; &nbsp;Yes, I was referring to section 3.2 in our draft. &nbsp; <=
br>
We went with 16-bit fields for Min &amp; Max fields as the values for these=
 fields range from 0 =A8C 384. &nbsp;We tried to address the case of using =
full spectrum BW as one LSP. &nbsp;This is an extreme case but can=A1=AFt b=
e ruled out.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
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ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
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ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Pl let me know if you have any other comments.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" s=
tyle=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Thanks.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&=
quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
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ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Best wishes,</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Haomian</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&=
quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
-----</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=D3=CA=BC=
=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">-----</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=
<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=
=CB</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: Rajan Rao [</span><span lang=3D"EN-=
US"><a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:rrao@infinera.=
com</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=
<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=
=B1=BC=E4</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: 2014</span><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C4=EA</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;">12</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;M=
S Gothic&quot;">=D4=C2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">18</span><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C8=D5</span><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 6:09</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: Zhenghaomian; Fatai =
Zhang</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS =
Gothic&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=
=B3=AD=CB=CD</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar=
 Hussain</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS =
Gothic&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=
=D6=F7</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=CC=E2</s=
pan><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: RE: [CCAMP]
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</s=
pan><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-gri=
d-ospf-ext-01.txt</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Haomian,</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
As I had mentioned we are no longer pushing for SuperChannel in the draft. =
&nbsp;So, this should make it easier to merge the docs.</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
In my view there are couple of areas your draft doesn't address which can b=
e taken from our draft:</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&qu=
ot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
1. &nbsp;You have separated Max &amp; Min Slot width in Port Label restrict=
ion sub-TLV. &nbsp;This is O.K. But this doesn't allow for priority based M=
in/Max usage. &nbsp; Our draft allows for this flexibility which can be use=
d.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
2. &nbsp;Max LSP Bandwidth field definition can be taken from our doc.</spa=
n><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
The priority handling can be further simplified by merging slice info &amp;=
 Min/Max fields in to a single sub-TLV if other authors agree.</span><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot=
;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Pl let me know.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial=
&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Thx</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Rajan</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
-----Original Message-----</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:=
&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
From: Zhenghaomian [</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:zhenghaom=
ian@huawei.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com</span></a></spa=
n><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
<br>
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 5:15 PM</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
To: Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:=
&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Cc: Khuzema Pithewan</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;=
Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Subject: </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic=
&quot;">=B4=F0=B8=B4</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: [CCAMP]
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</s=
pan><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-gri=
d-ospf-ext-01.txt</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Hi, Rajan and Khuzema,</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quo=
t;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Thanks for reminding. Do you guys have any suggestion on how to merge? Even=
 if we think the current draft is self-contained, we are still open on this=
.
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
I know there are some different ideas from Infinera, but sorry I am not ful=
ly understand every detail. Please let me know the exact section that need =
to be updated and let's see how to proceed. Again, this will finally be det=
ermined by the WG since already
 adopted. <br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Thanks.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&=
quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Best wishes,</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Haomian</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&=
quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
-----</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=D3=CA=BC=
=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">-----</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=
<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=
=CB</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: Rajan Rao [</span><span lang=3D"EN-=
US"><a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:rrao@infinera.=
com</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=
<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=
=B1=BC=E4</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: 2014</span><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C4=EA</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;">12</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;M=
S Gothic&quot;">=D4=C2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">17</span><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C8=D5</span><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 6:01</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: Zhenghaomian; Fatai =
Zhang</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS =
Gothic&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=
=B3=AD=CB=CD</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: Khuzema Pithewan</span><sp=
an lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS =
Gothic&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=
=D6=F7</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=CC=E2</s=
pan><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: RE: [CCAMP]
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</s=
pan><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-gri=
d-ospf-ext-01.txt</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Haomian,</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
We had sent couple of emails asking about merging the contents with our dra=
ft. &nbsp;Do you see an opportunity or any issues with the merge? &nbsp;Can=
 you pl respond on how you would like to proceed? Pl see the attached email=
 we had sent a while back.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:=
&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Thanks</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&q=
uot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Rajan</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
-----Original Message-----</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:=
&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
From: CCAMP [</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounces@ie=
tf.org"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</span></a></span><span l=
ang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;">]
 On Behalf Of Zhenghaomian</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:=
&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 12:24 AM</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
To: </span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-fami=
ly:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Subject: [CCAMP] </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU=
">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-c=
camp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font=
-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Dear CCAMPers,</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
We upload an updated version to reactivate the following draft against expi=
ration, together updating the Max width issue proposed in previous discussi=
ons. Your comments are highly welcomed, thanks.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Best wishes,</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Haomian on behalf of authors</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-famil=
y:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
-----</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=D3=CA=BC=
=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">-----</span><span lang=3D=
"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=
<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=
=CB</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: CCAMP [</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">=
<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:ccamp-bounces=
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quot;">i-d-announce@ietf.org</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D=
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ly:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">:
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=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;=
">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family=
:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
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pan><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flex=
ible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&=
quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
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ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
ies.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;">
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ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Worki=
ng Group of the IETF.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot=
;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
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ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
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ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Title &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : GMPLS=
 OSPF-TE Extensions in support of Flexible Grid</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Authors &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : Xian Zhang=
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp=
; &nbsp; &nbsp;Haomian Zheng</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-famil=
y:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
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ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
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; &nbsp; &nbsp;Ramon Casellas</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-fami=
ly:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
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ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp=
; &nbsp; &nbsp;Oscar Gonzalez de Dios</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"f=
ont-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
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ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
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; &nbsp; &nbsp;Daniele Ceccarelli</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-=
family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
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ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Filename &nbsp; &nbsp; &nb=
sp; &nbsp;: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt</span><span lang=
=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
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ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
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rial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
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ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Date &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: 2014-12-16</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-f=
amily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
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ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
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ns-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Abstract:</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;=
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ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; This memo describes the OSPF-TE extensions in support of GMPLS</span=
><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-ser=
if&quot;">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; control of networks that include devices that use the new flexible</=
span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans=
-serif&quot;">
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ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; optical grid.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;=
Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
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;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:</span><span lang=3D"EN-=
US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
<u><span style=3D"color:blue"><br>
</span></u></span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.=
org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext/"><span style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">https://data=
tracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext/</span></a></s=
pan><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-=
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yle=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
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l/draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">http://tools.iet=
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n lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&qu=
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libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Pl ref to email I respond=
ed to Ramon.&nbsp; You can construct numerous examples with the combination=
 [Min, Max, Available BW](Pn). See if it makes sense.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Thx<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Rajan<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
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0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Fatai Zh=
ang [mailto:zhangfatai@huawei.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 04, 2015 7:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> wang.qilei@zte.com.cn; Rajan Rao<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'CCAMP'; Iftekhar Hussain<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Hi Qilei and Rajan,<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I think Qilei meant that =
the example Rajan gave is nothing with Min LSP BW *<b>per Priority</b>*,
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D"=
>J</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&q=
uot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">To address the example (p=
otential compatible issue and might *<b>Never</b>* happen according to the =
LS from ITU-T SG15) &nbsp;from Rajan, I think only one simple
 flag (if needed in the future) to be added is sufficient. <o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideog=
raph"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideog=
raph"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideog=
raph"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideog=
raph"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideog=
raph"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Best Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideog=
raph"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:justify;text-justify:inter-ideog=
raph"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Fatai<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> CCAMP [<=
a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b><a href=3D"mailto:wang.qilei@zte.com.cn">wang.qilei@zte=
.com.cn</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 05, 2015 9:07 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rajan Rao<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'CCAMP'; Iftekhar Hussain<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf=
-ext-01.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Rajan,</sp=
an>
<br>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">Sorry about this. &nbsp;What I really wanted to express is how t=
o use the Min LSP BW for each priority. Just from my opinion, it will be ne=
cessary to advertise the Min LSP BW priority info as long as
 you point out we SHOULD use it somewhere.</span> <br>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">As this thread is talking about this, I think maybe an example w=
ould help understanding.</span>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">Thanks</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">Qilei</span> <br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;=
Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Rajan Rao &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rrao@in=
finera.com">rrao@infinera.com</a>&gt;</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:7.=
5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">2015-03-05 04:55</span>
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g=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span><o:p></o:p><=
/p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&quot;<a href=3D"mailto:wang.qilei@zte.com=
.cn">wang.qilei@zte.com.cn</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wang.qilei@zte.c=
om.cn">wang.qilei@zte.com.cn</a>&gt;,
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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g=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">=B3=AD=CB=CD</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&quot;<a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.u=
k">adrian@olddog.co.uk</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk"=
>adrian@olddog.co.uk</a>&gt;, 'CCAMP' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org"=
>ccamp@ietf.org</a>&gt;,
 Iftekhar Hussain &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:IHussain@infinera.com">IHussain@inf=
inera.com</a>&gt;, 'Ramon Casellas' &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ramon.casellas@ct=
tc.es">ramon.casellas@cttc.es</a>&gt;, &quot;'Zhangxian (Xian)'&quot; &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com">zhang.xian@huawei.com</a>&gt;</span=
>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-f=
lexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
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<br>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Qilei,</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">I gave to technological advance e.g. earlier. &n=
bsp;Here is a simple e.g. when you would need Min LSP BW info:</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">A-----B------C
</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Network A-B-C exists with 12.5GHz min granularit=
y. &nbsp; Today=A1=AFs network</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Introduce &nbsp;C-D link which is 6.25GHz capabl=
e: Tomorrow=A1=AFs network growth</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">A=A1=AAB---C---D</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">D is computing path to A. &nbsp;All it needs is =
6.25GHz. &nbsp; Links A-B and B-C don=A1=AFt support this. &nbsp; How will =
D know about this?</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Hope this helps. &nbsp; &nbsp;The discussion is =
around the need to advertise this info for each priority.
</span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Regards</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">Rajan</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080">&nbsp;</span>
<br>
<b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
<a href=3D"mailto:wang.qilei@zte.com.cn">wang.qilei@zte.com.cn</a> [</span>=
<a href=3D"mailto:wang.qilei@zte.com.cn"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:wang.qilei@zte.=
com.cn</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 04, 2015 1:12 AM<b><br>
To:</b> Rajan Rao<b><br>
Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk">adrian@olddog.co.uk</a>; 'CC=
AMP'; Iftekhar Hussain; 'Ramon Casellas'; 'Zhangxian (Xian)'<b><br>
Subject:</b> Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ex=
t-01.txt</span>
<br>
<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;=
</span> <br>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">Rajan,</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">
<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Can you give us a detailed example about the use of &quot;Minimum LSP bandw=
idth&quot;?</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-s=
erif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Currently, I can not feel the importance of this information.</span><span s=
tyle=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;"><br>
I like Ramon's answer: &quot;It may be short-sighted to discard the option&=
quot;, so please go on.</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
<br>
<br>
<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Thanks</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&=
quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot=
;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Qilei</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;"> <br>
<br>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;=
Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Rajan Rao &lt;</span></b><a href=3D"mai=
lto:rrao@infinera.com"><b><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;=
Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">rrao@infinera.com</span></b></a><b><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;">&gt;</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial=
&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
<br>
</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:7.5pt">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB</s=
pan><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans=
-serif&quot;">: &nbsp;&quot;CCAMP&quot; &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-=
bounces@ietf.org"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</span></a><span style=3D=
"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;=
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">2015-03-04 09:11</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
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t;sans-serif&quot;">adrian@olddog.co.uk</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:=
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 &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk"><span style=3D"font-size=
:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">adrian@olddog.=
co.uk</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot=
;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;, &quot;'Zhangxian (Xian)'&quot; &lt;</span><=
a href=3D"mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font=
-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">zhang.xian@huawei.com</sp=
an></a><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;">&gt;,
 'CCAMP' &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">ccamp@ietf.=
org</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&gt;, 'Ramon Casellas' &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto=
:ramon.casellas@cttc.es"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;A=
rial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">ramon.casellas@cttc.es</span></a><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot=
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lto:IHussain@infinera.com"><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot=
;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">IHussain@infinera.com</span></a><span =
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al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbs=
p; &nbsp;draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt</span><o:p></o:p></=
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<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Adrian,</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Looks like there is different interpretation of RFC 4202 text. &nbsp;RFC 42=
02 text in sections 2.4.2 &amp; 2.4.3 &nbsp;says &nbsp;</span><span style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
=A1=B0=A1=AD..</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cour=
ier New&quot;">an LSP at priority</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"=
><br>
&nbsp;p could reserve any bandwidth between the Minimum LSP Bandwidth and</=
span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"=
><br>
&nbsp; the Maximum LSP Bandwidth <span style=3D"color:red">at priority p</s=
pan>, provided that the bandwidth=A1=AD..=A1=B1</span><span style=3D"font-f=
amily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Having only the Maximum LSP bandwidth field priority based &amp; not the Mi=
nimum LSP bandwidth field doesn=A1=AFt seem right. &nbsp;It is a simplifica=
tion for sure. &nbsp;What is the correct interpretation of above text? &nbs=
p;Will be good to know.
<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Thx</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Rajan</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Adrian Farrel [</span><a href=3D"mailto:adrian=
@olddog.co.uk"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk</span></a><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 03, 2015 7:45 AM<b><br>
To:</b> 'Zhangxian (Xian)'; Rajan Rao; 'CCAMP'; 'Ramon Casellas'<b><br>
Cc:</b> Iftekhar Hussain<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ex=
t-01.txt</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Hi,</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
[Speaking as a regular contributor which, praise be, I will in just three w=
eeks' time. Not that I'm counting...]</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quo=
t;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
There is some up-levelling to be done here.</span><span style=3D"font-famil=
y:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Rajan seems to be proposing a new concept that would allow us to advertise =
not just the bandwidth available at each priority (per 4202) but also to va=
ry the constraints on allocation per priority. This would allow us to say t=
hat priority x LSPs can only use
 chunks of bandwidth between sizes a and b, while priority y LSPs can only =
chunks of bandwidth between sizes c and d.</span><span style=3D"font-family=
:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
I have three questions:</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
- Is this a valid thing to want to do in any technology?</span><span style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
- Is it something we want to do in Flexigrid?</span><span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
- Is it something that should be generalised?</span><span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Thanks,</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Adrian</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&=
quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> CCAMP [</span><a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounces@=
ietf.org"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&q=
uot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</span></a><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Zhangxian (Xian)<b><br>
Sent:</b> 03 March 2015 07:22<b><br>
To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (</span><a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">); 'Ramon Casellas'<b><br>
Cc:</b> Iftekhar Hussain<b><br>
Subject:</b> Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ex=
t-01.txt</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#620012"><br>
Hi, Rajan, </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri=
&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [</span><a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infin=
era.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</span></a><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> 2015</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=C4=EA=
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;">3</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=
=D4=C2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">3</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10=
.0pt">=C8=D5</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma=
&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 8:56<b><br>
To:</b> Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (</span><a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org"><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">); 'Ramon Casellas'<b><br>
Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ex=
t-01.txt</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Xian,</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Minimum LSP bandwidth will address technological advances. For e.g. tomorro=
w=A1=AFs 6.25GHz &nbsp;instead of today=A1=AFs 12.5GHz. GMPLS extensions sh=
ould cover the case of network having a mix of different hardware capabilit=
ies.
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#620012"><br>
[Xian]: I agree with the above statements. But they are a property of an in=
terface, which AFAIC does not change over time. That=A1=AFs why I said it h=
ave already be covered by Section 4.3 (please take a look if any informatio=
n is missing as well). &nbsp;ISCD, especially
 SCSI is used to advertise the available bandwidth information and it is ch=
anging dynamically. So, I do not think SCSI is the right place to do so.</s=
pan><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Advertising per priority aligns with RFC4202. &nbsp;I don=A1=AFt see any is=
sues.</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#620012"><br>
[Xian] I have to disagree. &nbsp; RFC4202 does not support advertising min =
LSP bandwidth per priority. Please take a look at the encoding of Section 1=
.4. of RFC4203. What=A1=AFs said there: for PSC and TDM, you carry ONE mini=
mum LSP bandwidth information (which is not
 associated per priority); for Lambda switching, it does not have any SCSI =
at all.
<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#620012"><br>
Having said all these, I personally do not think the value of advertising m=
in LSP bandwidth per priority. If you disagree again, could you give me an =
usage example? &nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&q=
uot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
As far as Maximum LSP bandwidth goes, either option would work but my prefe=
rence would be to put it in technology specific part (SCSI).</span><span st=
yle=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#620012"><br>
[Xian]: point taken. I agree with you that both work but I would prefer to =
take Option 1. Let=A1=AFs get a bit more feedback from the WG before updati=
ng the draft.</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans=
-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#620012"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#620012"><br>
Regards,<br>
Xian</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&qu=
ot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Thx</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Rajan</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhangxian (Xian) [</span><a href=3D"mailto:zha=
ng.xian@huawei.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahom=
a&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com</span></a><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:35 PM<b><br>
To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (</span><a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">); 'Ramon Casellas'<b><br>
Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ex=
t-01.txt</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Hi, Rajan, all, <br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;=A1=B0Min &amp; Max slot=A1=B1 you mentioned below is a=
 bit mis-leading. I think you wanted to say =A1=B0Min &amp; Max LSP bandwid=
th=A1=B1. Let talk them one by one since we are not aligned yet on both.
<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Why do we need to advertise Min LSP bandwidth per prior=
ity in ISCD, e.g., a request cannot set up a LSP smaller than X GHz and it =
varies per priority? If you &nbsp;meant to say the interface limitation, it=
 is covered in Section 4.3 already. &nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-family=
:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;As for the Max LSP bandwidth information, I agree with =
you that RFC4204 has this requirement. This draft (draft-ietf-ccamp-flexibl=
e-grid-ospf-ext-01) needs to be updated to reflect this. I can think of two=
 options:
<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Option A: use the existing fields (MAX LSP Bandwidth at priority x, x=3D0-7=
) &nbsp;in the ISCD (defined in Section 1.4. of RFC4203). The point that we=
 need to update is the unit to be usable in the context of Flexi-grid. It w=
ill be Hz not byte per second.</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial=
&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Option B: We add the max LSP bandwidth field (16 bit) in the Available Labe=
ls Field by using the Reserved field. &nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-fami=
ly:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;Which option does the WG prefer?</span><span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Regards,<br>
Xian</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&qu=
ot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [</span><a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infin=
era.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</span></a><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> 2015</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=C4=EA=
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;">2</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=
=D4=C2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">28</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt">=C8=D5</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahom=
a&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 2:51<b><br>
To:</b> Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (</span><a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org"><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">); 'Ramon Casellas'<b><br>
Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ex=
t-01.txt</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Xian, all</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-ser=
if&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri=
&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Section 4.3 is trying to use port label restrictions sub-TLV with a new res=
triction type. &nbsp;This is fine. &nbsp;But how does a path computing node=
 determine if it can use the link to setup an LSP with N-slots @ priority =
=A1=AEp=A1=AF? &nbsp; For e.g &nbsp;I don=A1=AFt want to allow priority
 7 LSPs to use bandwidth greater than 20 slots on the link but allow for LS=
Ps with priority 0, 1 &amp; 2. &nbsp;Where is this info in the TLV?</span><=
span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
We had given examples when we presented our draft in Taipei IETF-82. &nbsp;=
Ref slides 8 &amp; 10 (link below). &nbsp;We had coverage for advertisement=
 of &nbsp;Min &amp; Max slot widths per priority. This is meant to align wi=
th RFC 4202. &nbsp;I believe WG doc lacks this and needs to
 address.</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-ser=
if&quot;"> <u><span style=3D"color:blue"><br>
</span></u></span><a href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/ccam=
p-18.pdf"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&=
quot;sans-serif&quot;">http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/ccamp-18.p=
df</span></a><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&=
quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
thx</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Rajan</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;"> </span><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhangxian (Xian) [</span><a href=3D"mailto:zha=
ng.xian@huawei.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahom=
a&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com</span></a><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> Thursday, February 26, 2015 5:33 PM<b><br>
To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (</span><a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">); 'Ramon Casellas'<b><br>
Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ex=
t-01.txt</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Hi, Rajan and all,</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Thank you for your clarification and I now fully understand your question. =
I think you have misunderstood Section 4.3. of this draft. It was not to de=
scribe dynamic Max &amp; Min LSP bandwidth but rather the capability/constr=
aint associated with an port, which
 rarely change over time.</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot=
;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Isn=A1=AFt information per priority already supported? Quoting text from th=
e drafts referred:</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
=A1=B0</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&=
quot;sans-serif&quot;">The technology specific part of the WSON ISCD may in=
clude a variable</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; number of sub-TLVs called Bandwidth sub-TLVs.=A1=B1</span><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
As for the Mix and Max LSP bandwidth, could you give me an example of what =
you said below, i.e.,=A1=B0Availability of &nbsp;=A1=AEN=A1=AF consecutive =
labels doesn=A1=AFt mean you can setup an LSP with a size of =A1=AEN=A1=AF=
=A1=B1?
<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;What does the WG think of the issue under discussion?</span><s=
pan style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Regards,</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Xian</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&qu=
ot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [</span><a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infin=
era.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</span></a><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> 2015</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=C4=EA=
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;">2</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=
=D4=C2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">27</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt">=C8=D5</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahom=
a&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 4:03<b><br>
To:</b> Zhangxian (Xian); CCAMP (</span><a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org"><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">); 'Ramon Casellas'<b><br>
Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Biao Lu<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ex=
t-01.txt</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Xian,</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
I understand this doc is trying to reuse GEN-ENCODE &amp; there is support =
for priority. &nbsp;I am not referring to this one. &nbsp;The Min Width &am=
p; Max &nbsp;Width fields do exist in the draft but these alone are not suf=
ficient. We need info per priority for the following reason.</span><span st=
yle=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
The intent of Min &amp; Max width info is to specify what is the Minimum/Ma=
ximum LSP bandwidth an LSP could reserve at a given priority =A1=AEp=A1=AF =
on the link. &nbsp;You can draw parallel to =A1=AEMinimum LSP Bandwidth=A1=
=AF &amp; =A1=AEMaximum LSP Bandwidth=A1=AF fields in RFC 4202. &nbsp;
<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
I don=A1=AFt understand how you can derive this from label set field. &nbsp=
; Availability of &nbsp;=A1=AEN=A1=AF consecutive labels doesn=A1=AFt mean =
you can setup an LSP with a size of =A1=AEN=A1=AF. &nbsp;</span><span style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Thx</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Rajan</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhangxian (Xian) [</span><a href=3D"mailto:zha=
ng.xian@huawei.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahom=
a&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:zhang.xian@huawei.com</span></a><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 25, 2015 5:37 PM<b><br>
To:</b> Rajan Rao; CCAMP (</span><a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">); 'Ramon Casellas'<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ex=
t-01.txt</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Hi, Rajan,</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;As I was not involved earlier, I find the following may be &nb=
sp;a bit long for others in the WG to get involved. &nbsp;Before I dive int=
o the discussion and share my thoughts, am I accurate if I recap the questi=
on as:</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&=
quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
&nbsp; You think the existing text in draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-e=
xt-01 do not support the following:
<br>
1) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Do not support priority; <br>
2) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Do not convey the min &amp; max LSP bandwidth inform=
ation in the SCSI field; <br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Could you confirm my interpretation of your issue?</span><span style=3D"fon=
t-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
The following is my thoughts ( subject to change if the question I recapped=
 above is not as exact as what you want to say):</span><span style=3D"font-=
family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
The &nbsp;current method is to reuse what has already been proposed for WSO=
N. So it reuses the SCSI field defined in WSON-OSPF draft (</span><a href=
=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility-=
ospf-15#section-3.1"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cc=
amp-wson-signal-compatibility-ospf-15#section-3.1</span></a><span style=3D"=
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;col=
or:#004080">).
 So, it DOES support priority (see the details are in [GEN-ENCODE] draft-ie=
tf-ccamp-general-constraint-encode-20). Exactly because of the same reason,=
 the draft under discussion uses label set field to describe what frequency=
 slots are available. So, although
 it allows for all different varieties supported by [GEN-ENCODE] (i.e., lis=
t, bitmap, inclusive, exclusive etc.), the method does not see the need of =
specify the max&amp;min LSP bandwidth since it can be naturally deduced fro=
m the available frequency spectrum information
 conveyed. &nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
The above discussion actually reminds me of a question Ramon raised up a wh=
ile ago among the authors of this draft, what has been defined in WSON-OSPF=
 is truly usable labels in signaling. But with Flexi-grid, it is not true a=
nymore. For example, although we
 use Inclusive Label Range to describe available frequency range, say the e=
xample in Section 4.4 of &nbsp;draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01 (=
assume m=3D1), none of these labels are directly usable if what is actually=
 requested is a bandwidth with m=3D2. &nbsp;I
 myself do not see any issue as long as we make it clear we use the format =
just to describe what resource available NOT usable labels. Since it is a W=
G draft, it is worthwhile to solicit what you think?</span><span style=3D"f=
ont-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Cheers,<br>
Xian</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&qu=
ot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot=
;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [</span><a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infin=
era.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</span></a><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> 2015</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=C4=EA=
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;">2</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=
=D4=C2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">26</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt">=C8=D5</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahom=
a&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 7:17<b><br>
To:</b> Daniele Ceccarelli; Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang; CCAMP (</span><a hre=
f=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">ccamp@ietf.org</span></a><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;=
">)<b><br>
Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Ramon Casella=
s; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;T=
ahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible=
-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&q=
uot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Daniele,</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Sure. &nbsp;Added WG in the list for comments.</span><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Thx</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Rajan &nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Daniele Ceccarelli [</span><a href=3D"mailto:d=
aniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family=
:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@erics=
son.com</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 25, 2015 12:45 PM<b><br>
To:</b> Rajan Rao; Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<b><br>
Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Ramon Casella=
s; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;T=
ahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible=
-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&q=
uot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Hi all,</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
This is a really interesting discussion and since we=A1=AFre speaking about=
 a working group draft I think we should continue con the mailing list.</sp=
an><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Please include the WG in your reply.</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot=
;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
BR<br>
Daniele</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [</span><a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infin=
era.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</span></a><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> mercoled=A8=AC 25 febbraio 2015 19:56<b><br>
To:</b> Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<b><br>
Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Daniele Cecca=
relli; Ramon Casellas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;T=
ahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible=
-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&q=
uot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Haomian,</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
The priority in each layer is independent. &nbsp;The intent of explicitly c=
arrying priority info in the advertisement is to allow for LSP creation at =
different priorities. &nbsp;Note that priority defined in OTN RFC don=A1=AF=
t apply here as it is a different layer. &nbsp; You
 can have L0-LSP setup at priority-1 but L1-Telink (OTN link) formed out of=
 this may advertise all 8 or subset of them. &nbsp;It is an implementation =
choice. &nbsp;I don=A1=AFt see any conflicts here.</span><span style=3D"fon=
t-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Once we agree on the following items we can figure out TLV encoding options=
.</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;=
">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
1. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Allow for Advertisement of Min &amp; Max slot widths=
 at different priorities =A8C up to 8</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quo=
t;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
2. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Min/Max slot width field =A8C 16 bit instead of 8 &n=
bsp;(I see you are agreeing to this change below)</span><span style=3D"font=
-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
3. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Max LSP Bandwidth =A8C this was debated in previous =
meetings but no firm conclusion.
<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Thx</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Rajan</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhenghaomian [</span><a href=3D"mailto:zhengha=
omian@huawei.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com</span></a><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;">]
<b><br>
Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 24, 2015 11:35 PM<b><br>
To:</b> Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang<b><br>
Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain; Zhangxian (Xian); Daniele Cecca=
relli; Ramon Casellas; Oscar Gonzalez de Dios<b><br>
Subject:</b> </span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=B4=F0=
=B8=B4</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: [CCAMP]
</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt</sp=
an><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Hi, Rajan,</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Thanks for the information, I noticed there is a change talking about exten=
ding Flexi-grid data plan to satisfy requirements in RFC4202. I forward thi=
s email to all the authors of OSPF draft to advertise your comments</span><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#004080">J</span=
><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans=
-serif&quot;;color:#004080">
 &nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Firstly let=A1=AFs recall the sub-TLV format in draft-dhillon-ccamp-flexgri=
d-ospfte-ext as follow:
<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp;<a name=3D"section-0"></a>0 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;=
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &n=
bsp; &nbsp; 2 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp=
; 3</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 =
1</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;=
">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; &#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#=
43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;=
-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;</span><span style=3D=
"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Type=3D1 &nbsp; &nbsp; &=
nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;| &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp=
;Length &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |</span><span style=3D"font-fami=
ly:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; &#43;---------------------------------------------------------------=
&#43;</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; |Slice Spacing | Pri | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nb=
sp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Reserved &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp;|</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; &#43;---------------------------------------------------------------=
&#43;</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; N-Start &nbsp; &n=
bsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Num of Slices &nbsp;=
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&=
quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; &#43;---------------------------------------------------------------=
&#43;</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Min Slot Width &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &n=
bsp;| &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Max Slot Width &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp=
;|</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot=
;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; &#43;---------------------------------------------------------------=
&#43;</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nb=
sp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &=
nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;=
 |</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot=
;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Bit=
-Map showing Available Slices &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; |</span><s=
pan style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nb=
sp; (up to 48 bytes) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp=
; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;|</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quo=
t;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; &#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#=
43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;=
-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;</span><span style=3D=
"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Then I share my understanding on your concern. Compared with sub-TLV in sec=
tion 4.3 of draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01, I highlight the dif=
ference as follow:
<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
In your proposal, <br>
1) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Slice Spacing is preferred to be carried in the &nbs=
p;sub-TLV; <br>
2) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Priority bits are preferred to be included in sub-TL=
V;</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot=
;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
3) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Min/Max Widths should both be 16-bit; <br>
4) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;N-start and Num of Slices to represent the spectrum =
rather than C.F.G and S.W.G;
<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Below please find my comments: <br>
Firstly I believe both of your structure and the current structure in WG dr=
aft are satisfying the requirement of flexi-grid FWK draft (the info model =
in Fig. 17). We only need to deal with some differences in representation f=
ormat, and some additional information
 may be useful. <br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
1) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Different slice spacing is applicable but may not be=
 necessary; the spirit to introduce flexible grid is to allow flexibility i=
n spectrum allocation and current WG draft can satisfy the requirement. Not=
 much further advantage for using slice spacing;
<br>
2) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Priority bits: I agree that it is widely used, I am =
basically fine to include priority bits in the sub-TLV. My only concern is,=
 there are also such priority information in other place (for example OTN B=
W sub-TLV in Section 4.1.3 in RFC7138), do we need
 to repeat here? What is the relationship if we have two priorities? Is it =
possible the OTN priority is not consistent with flexi-grid priority? Why? =
And How to deal with this?</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
3) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Agreed, will change both the min/max widths to 16-bi=
t in the next version;
<br>
4) &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Personally I don=A1=AFt think it=A1=AFs necessary to=
 change the current WG draft: I think your proposed representation can have=
 equivalent result as the one in current WG draft;</span><span style=3D"fon=
t-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Rajan, please correct me if there is misunderstanding, also let me know if =
you have other comments.
<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
All, please feel free to comments, or we move to the list if necessary</spa=
n><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#004080">J</s=
pan><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Best wishes,</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Haomian</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span></b><b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=B7=A2=BC=FE=
=C8=CB</span></b><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial=
&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao [</span><a=
 href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:rrao@infinera.com</spa=
n></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;">]
<b><br>
</b></span><b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=B7=A2=CB=CD=
=CA=B1=BC=E4</span></b><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> 2015</span><sp=
an lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=C4=EA</span><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">2</spa=
n><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=D4=C2</span><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">=
24</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=C8=D5</span><span=
 lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">4:03<b><br>
</b></span><b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=CA=D5=BC=FE=
=C8=CB</span></b><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial=
&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Zhenghaomian; Fatai =
Zhang<b><br>
</b></span><b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=B3=AD=CB=CD<=
/span></b><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;">:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar =
Hussain<b><br>
</b></span><b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=D6=F7=CC=E2<=
/span></b><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;">:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> RE: [CCAMP]
</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-ser=
if&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt</spa=
n><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Haomian,</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
The Flexgrid FWK doc has been updated with reference to RFC4202. &nbsp; Thi=
s should address the comment you had in the earlier email. &nbsp;Pl refer t=
o updated doc (attached email from Ramon). &nbsp;Pl let us know how you wou=
ld like to proceed.
<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
FWK doc Snip below:</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New=
&quot;"><br>
5.1.2. &nbsp;Routing</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Courier New&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New=
&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; The routing protocol will support all functions as described in</spa=
n><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"=
><br>
&nbsp; [RFC4202] and extend them to a flexi-grid data plane.</span><span st=
yle=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Thx</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Rajan</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rajan Rao
<b><br>
Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 03, 2015 2:28 PM<b><br>
To:</b> Zhenghaomian; Fatai Zhang<b><br>
Cc:</b> Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] </span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;T=
ahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible=
-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&q=
uot;sans-serif&quot;">
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t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
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>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Haomian,</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
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>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Thx for the reply. Pl see below.</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Zhenghaomian [</span><a href=3D"mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
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Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 11:22 PM<br>
To: Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang<br>
Cc: Khuzema Pithewan; Iftekhar Hussain<br>
Subject: </span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=B4=F0=B8=B4</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: [CCAMP]
</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=
=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-gri=
d-ospf-ext-01.txt</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">
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t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
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>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Hi, Rajan,</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Firstly sorry for the very late response.</span><span style=3D"font-family:=
&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
For your first concern, I see some difference in TLVs about priority issue =
(Table I in your draft). I think I understand your description but I didn't=
 find very much advantage to include such 'scalable' settings.
<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
RR&gt;&gt; Priority based advertisement is pretty standard mechanism used i=
n all existing RFCs. &nbsp;For e.g. you can find these in WSON, OTN &nbsp;d=
ocs and any other Te-extensions draft.
<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Another concern from me is, for the flexi-grid literature, there are more t=
han one WG draft, I think it's better to consider such case in fwk draft, a=
nd after that the OSPF one can revise accordingly. P.S, I don't know whethe=
r this topic was discussed on the
 list before (perhaps there are some conclusions, let me know). If not, I w=
ould like to suggest move to the list.</span><span style=3D"font-family:&qu=
ot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
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t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
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>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
RR&gt;&gt; I looked at framework. &nbsp;Yes, it doesn=A1=AFt talk about pri=
ority based advertisement. &nbsp;Thanks for pointing this out. Good catch. =
We will provide this comment to FWK authors &amp; CC you. &nbsp;I do not se=
e any issue updating the fwk doc with this detail. &nbsp;
<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
For your second concern on Max LSP Bandwidth, my understanding is you are t=
rying to use the description in section 3.2 of your draft to replace the on=
e in section 4.3 of current WG draft. Is this true? I believe the descripti=
on in your draft is clear and correct.
 BTW, I noticed bit difference in Min Bandwidth (16 bits allocated in your =
draft and 8 bit in current WG draft), hopefully this will not be a big issu=
e (8 bit support a bandwidth up to 3200GHz, which is absolutely more than t=
he normal requirement for a minimal
 BW).</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
RR&gt;&gt; &nbsp;Yes, I was referring to section 3.2 in our draft. &nbsp; <=
br>
We went with 16-bit fields for Min &amp; Max fields as the values for these=
 fields range from 0 =A8C 384. &nbsp;We tried to address the case of using =
full spectrum BW as one LSP. &nbsp;This is an extreme case but can=A1=AFt b=
e ruled out.</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">
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t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
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>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#004080"><br>
Pl let me know if you have any other comments.</span><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
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t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Thanks.</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
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>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Best wishes,</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Haomian</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
-----</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Ming=
LiU">=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">-----</span><span style=3D=
"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU"><br>
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB</span></span><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: Rajan R=
ao [</span><a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10=
.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:rrao@in=
finera.com</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU"><br>
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4</span></span><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: 2=
014</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
MS Gothic&quot;">=C4=EA</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">12</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=D4=C2</span><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-ser=
if&quot;">18</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C8=D5</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 6:09</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&q=
uot;"><br>
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span></span><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: Zhengha=
omian; Fatai Zhang</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"><=
br>
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=B3=AD=CB=CD</span></span><span style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: Khuzema Pithe=
wan; Iftekhar Hussain</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&q=
uot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"><=
br>
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=D6=F7</span></span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=CC=E2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: RE: [CCAMP]
</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=
=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-gri=
d-ospf-ext-01.txt</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Haomian,</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
As I had mentioned we are no longer pushing for SuperChannel in the draft. =
&nbsp;So, this should make it easier to merge the docs.</span><span style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
In my view there are couple of areas your draft doesn't address which can b=
e taken from our draft:</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
1. &nbsp;You have separated Max &amp; Min Slot width in Port Label restrict=
ion sub-TLV. &nbsp;This is O.K. But this doesn't allow for priority based M=
in/Max usage. &nbsp; Our draft allows for this flexibility which can be use=
d.</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot=
;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
2. &nbsp;Max LSP Bandwidth field definition can be taken from our doc.</spa=
n><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
The priority handling can be further simplified by merging slice info &amp;=
 Min/Max fields in to a single sub-TLV if other authors agree.</span><span =
style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Pl let me know.</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Thx</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Rajan</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
-----Original Message-----</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;"><br>
From: Zhenghaomian [</span><a href=3D"mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;">mailto:zhenghaomian@huawei.com</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
<br>
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 5:15 PM</span><span style=3D"font-family:&=
quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
To: Rajan Rao; Fatai Zhang</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;"><br>
Cc: Khuzema Pithewan</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;"><br>
Subject: </span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=B4=F0=B8=B4</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: [CCAMP]
</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=
=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-gri=
d-ospf-ext-01.txt</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Hi, Rajan and Khuzema,</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&=
quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Thanks for reminding. Do you guys have any suggestion on how to merge? Even=
 if we think the current draft is self-contained, we are still open on this=
.
<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
I know there are some different ideas from Infinera, but sorry I am not ful=
ly understand every detail. Please let me know the exact section that need =
to be updated and let's see how to proceed. Again, this will finally be det=
ermined by the WG since already
 adopted. <br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Thanks.</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Best wishes,</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Haomian</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
-----</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Ming=
LiU">=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">-----</span><span style=3D=
"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU"><br>
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB</span></span><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: Rajan R=
ao [</span><a href=3D"mailto:rrao@infinera.com"><span style=3D"font-size:10=
.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:rrao@in=
finera.com</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU"><br>
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4</span></span><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: 2=
014</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
MS Gothic&quot;">=C4=EA</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">12</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=D4=C2</span><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-ser=
if&quot;">17</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C8=D5</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 6:01</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&q=
uot;"><br>
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span></span><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: Zhengha=
omian; Fatai Zhang</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"><=
br>
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=B3=AD=CB=CD</span></span><span style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: Khuzema Pithe=
wan</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"><=
br>
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=D6=F7</span></span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=CC=E2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: RE: [CCAMP]
</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=
=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-gri=
d-ospf-ext-01.txt</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Haomian,</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
We had sent couple of emails asking about merging the contents with our dra=
ft. &nbsp;Do you see an opportunity or any issues with the merge? &nbsp;Can=
 you pl respond on how you would like to proceed? Pl see the attached email=
 we had sent a while back.</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Thanks</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&=
quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Rajan</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
-----Original Message-----</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;"><br>
From: CCAMP [</span><a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;=
">mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">] On Behalf Of Zheng=
haomian</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 12:24 AM</span><span style=3D"font-family:=
&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
To: </span><a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0p=
t;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">ccamp@ietf.org</s=
pan></a><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;=
">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Subject: [CCAMP] </span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:MingLiU">=D7=AA=B7=A2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: I-D Action: draft-ietf-c=
camp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;A=
rial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Dear CCAMPers,</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
We upload an updated version to reactivate the following draft against expi=
ration, together updating the Max width issue proposed in previous discussi=
ons. Your comments are highly welcomed, thanks.</span><span style=3D"font-f=
amily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Best wishes,</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Haomian on behalf of authors</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
-----</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Ming=
LiU">=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">-----</span><span style=3D=
"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU"><br>
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB</span></span><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: CCAMP [=
</span><a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">mailto:ccamp-=
bounces@ietf.org</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">]
</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS =
Gothic&quot;">=B4=FA=B1=ED</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10=
.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><a href=3D"mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">internet-dr=
afts@ietf.org</span></a><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU"><br>
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4</span></span><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: 2=
014</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
MS Gothic&quot;">=C4=EA</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">12</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=D4=C2</span><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-ser=
if&quot;">16</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;">=C8=D5</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
 16:16</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&=
quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&=
quot;"><br>
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span></span><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">:
</span><a href=3D"mailto:i-d-announce@ietf.org"><span style=3D"font-size:10=
.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">i-d-announce@i=
etf.org</span></a><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-s=
erif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"><=
br>
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=B3=AD=CB=CD</span></span><span style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">:
</span><a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">ccamp@ietf.org</span>=
</a><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;MS Gothic&quot;"><=
br>
<span lang=3D"ZH-CN">=D6=F7</span></span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">=CC=E2</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">: [CCAMP] I-D A=
ction: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt</span><span style=3D"=
font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
ies.</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&qu=
ot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Worki=
ng Group of the IETF.</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&q=
uot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Title &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : GMPLS=
 OSPF-TE Extensions in support of Flexible Grid</span><span style=3D"font-f=
amily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Authors &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : Xian Zhang=
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp=
; &nbsp; &nbsp;Haomian Zheng</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp=
; &nbsp; &nbsp;Ramon Casellas</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp=
; &nbsp; &nbsp;Oscar Gonzalez de Dios</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quo=
t;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp=
; &nbsp; &nbsp;Daniele Ceccarelli</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Filename &nbsp; &nbsp; &nb=
sp; &nbsp;: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt</span><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Pages &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;=
 &nbsp; &nbsp; : 14</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Date &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: 2014-12-16</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Ari=
al&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Abstract:</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-ser=
if&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri=
&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; This memo describes the OSPF-TE extensions in support of GMPLS</span=
><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; control of networks that include devices that use the new flexible</=
span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
&nbsp; optical grid.</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"=
>&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:</span><span style=3D"fo=
nt-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
<u><span style=3D"color:blue"><br>
</span></u></span><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cc=
amp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext/"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
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                          Himanshu Shah
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : OSPF-TE Extensions for General Network Element Constraints
        Authors         : Fatai Zhang
                          Young Lee
                          Jianrui Han
                          Greg Bernstein
                          Yunbin Xu
	Filename        : draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-general-constraints-ospf-te-10.txt
	Pages           : 12
	Date            : 2015-03-06

Abstract:
   Generalized Multiprotocol Label Switching (GMPLS) can be used to
   control a wide variety of technologies including packet switching
   (e.g., MPLS), time-division (e.g., SONET/SDH, Optical Transport
   Network (OTN)), wavelength (lambdas), and spatial switching (e.g.,
   incoming port or fiber to outgoing port or fiber). In some of these
   technologies, network elements and links may impose additional
   routing constraints such as asymmetric switch connectivity, non-
   local label assignment, and label range limitations on links. This
   document describes Open Shortest Path First (OSPF) routing protocol
   extensions to support these kinds of constraints under the control
   of GMPLS.




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CCAMP,

the first draft of the CCAMP Agenda is published: http://www.ietf.org/proce=
edings/92/agenda/agenda-92-ccamp
Thanks to Oscar for putting it together.

Please have a look at it and send your comments/corrections/additions to th=
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        Title           : Information Model for Wavelength Switched Optical Networks (WSONs) with Impairments Validation
        Authors         : Giovanni Martinelli
                          Xian Zhang
                          Gabriele M. Galimberti
                          Andrea Zanardi
                          Domenico Siracusa
                          Federico Pederzolli
                          Young Lee
                          Fatai Zhang
	Filename        : draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info-01.txt
	Pages           : 19
	Date            : 2015-03-09

Abstract:
   This document defines an information model to support Impairment-
   Aware (IA) Routing and Wavelength Assignment (RWA) functionality.
   This information model extends the information model for impairment-
   free RWA process in WSON to facilitate computation of paths where
   optical impairment constraints need to considered.


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        Title           : Link Management Protocol Extensions for Grid Property Negotiation
        Authors         : Xihua Fu
                          Guoying Zhang
                          Yao Li
                          Ramon Casellas
                          Yu Wang
	Filename        : draft-ietf-ccamp-grid-property-lmp-01.txt
	Pages           : 11
	Date            : 2015-03-09

Abstract:
   ITU-T [G.694.1] introduces the flexible-grid DWDM technique, which
   provides a new tool that operators can implement to provide a higher
   degree of network optimization than is possible with fixed-grid
   systems.  This document describes the extensions to the Link
   Management Protocol (LMP) to negotiate link grid property between the
   adjacent DWDM nodes before the link is brought up.


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The IESG has approved the following document:
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  (draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-general-constraints-ospf-te-10.txt) as Proposed
Standard

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http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-general-constraints-ospf-te/




Technical Summary

   Generalized Multiprotocol Label Switching (GMPLS) can be used to
   control a wide variety of technologies including packet switching
   (e.g., MPLS), time-division (e.g., SONET/SDH, Optical Transport
   Network (OTN)), wavelength (lambdas), and spatial switching (e.g.,
   incoming port or fiber to outgoing port or fiber). In some of these
   technologies, network elements and links may impose additional
   routing constraints such as asymmetric switch connectivity, non-
   local label assignment, and label range limitations on links. This
   document describes Open Shortest Path First (OSPF) routing protocol
   extensions to support these kinds of constraints under the control
   of GMPLS.

Working Group Summary
  
   This topic been discussed in the WG for a very long time, perhaps 6
   years.  Support for the work has been tepid, but there are multiple
   sets of contributors who would like to see the work result in proposed
   standards. 
 
Document Quality

   The base GMPLS routing protocol has been implemented.  The extensions
   defined in this document are compatible with earlier implementations.
   Multiple implementors have stated their intent to implement, or have
   stated that they have already implemented, the mechanisms defined in
   this document.

Personnel

   Lou Berger is the Document Shepherd
   Adrian Farrel is the Responsible Area Director


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The IESG has approved the following document:
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   Switched Optical Networks'
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Technical Summary

   A wavelength switched optical network (WSON) requires that certain
   key information fields are made available to facilitate path
   computation and the establishment of label switching paths (LSPs).
   The information model described in "Routing and Wavelength
   Assignment Information for Wavelength Switched Optical Networks"
   shows what information is required at specific points in the WSON.
   Part of the WSON information model contains aspects that may be of
   general applicability to other technologies, while other parts are
   specific to WSONs.

   This document provides efficient, protocol-agnostic encodings for
   the WSON-specific information fields. It is intended that protocol-
   specific documents will reference this memo to describe how
   information is carried for specific uses. Such encodings can be used
   to extend GMPLS signaling and routing protocols. In addition these
   encodings could be used by other mechanisms to convey this same
   information to a path computation element (PCE).

Working Group Summary

   This topic been discussed in the WG for a very long time, perhaps 6
   years.  Support for the work has been tepid, but there are multiple
   sets of contributors who would like to see the work result in proposed
   standards. 

   A late discussion about the inclusion of vendor-specific information 
   went back to the WG list and resulted in the removal of such TLVs
   until the ITU-T has completed its work in this area.
 
Document Quality

   This document provides background and an approach to extending
   exiting RFCs for which there are implementations, but does not
   itself define any protocol mechanisms.  The existing RFCs include
   RFC3471, RFC3473, RFC4202, RFC4203.  This work is based on RFC6163.

Personnel

   Lou Berger is the Document Shepherd
   Adrian Farrel is the Responsible Area Director



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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
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        Title           : Resource ReserVation Protocol-Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) Extension for Additional Signal Types in G.709 OTN
        Authors         : Zafar Ali
                          Antonello Bonfanti
                          Matt Hartley
                          Fatai Zhang
	Filename        : draft-ietf-ccamp-additional-signal-type-g709v3-01.txt
	Pages           : 4
	Date            : 2015-03-09

Abstract:
[RFC4328] and [RFC7139] provide the extensions to Generalized
Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) signaling to control the
full set of OTN features including ODU0, ODU1, ODU2, ODU3, ODU4,
ODU2e and ODUflex. However, these specifications do not cover the
additional signal types ODU1e, ODU3e1, and ODU3e2 mentioned in
[G.Sup43]. This draft provides GMPLS signaling extensions for these
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        Title           : IANA Allocation Procedures for OTN Signal Type Subregistry to the GMPLS Signaling Parameters Registry
        Authors         : Zafar Ali
                          Antonello Bonfanti
                          Matt Hartley
                          Fatai Zhang
	Filename        : draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-signal-type-subregistry-01.txt
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	Date            : 2015-03-09

Abstract:
IANA has defined an "OTN Signal Type" subregistry to the
"Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Signaling
Parameters" registry. This draft proposes changes to the OTN Signal
Type subregistry to include Specification Required policies, as
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Hi Adrian,

Thank you for your AD review. Here's my response to your comment.=20

Thanks,
Young

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To: gregb@grotto-networking.com; xsg@nict.go.jp; Leeyoung; giomarti@cisco.c=
om; harai@nict.go.jp
Cc: 'CCAMP'; db3546@att.com; akatlas@gmail.com; Alvaro Retana
Subject: AD review of draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling

[Using explicit addresses because the tools aliases are currently unreliabl=
e]

Authors,

I've done my usual AD review of your document (the nth in the sequence of n=
+1 WSON drafts!). I have a few comments, and normally I would ask you for a=
 new revision at once, but because of dates and things I am going to start =
the IETF last call and enter these as last call comments.

The last call will end on 3/18 and you can post a new revision then (by sen=
ding it to me to ask the Secretary to post it) or wait to post it yourselve=
s when the gates reopen on 3/23.

Thanks for the work,
Adrian

=3D=3D=3D

You need to split the Authors' Addresses section and move out all those not=
 on the current front page to be present in a Contributors section.

YOUNG>> Yes, agree.=20

---

You seem to have the name of RFC 6205 in the references section a bit wrong=
!

YOUNG>> OK. Corrected to "Generalized Labels for Lambda-Switch-Capable (LSC=
) Label Switching Routers".=20

---
                                             =20
Do you really mean that you are updating 6205? That is the document that de=
fines lambda labels.

It has no mention of G.709 despite what you say in the Abstract. This
seems a little odd.                         =20

YOUNG>> I agree. No need to talk about G.709 and this document does not upd=
ate 6205. So, I would delete the
Following paragraph from the Abstract:=20

  "These extensions build on previous
   work for the control of lambda and G.709 based networks, i.e. update
   RFC6205, to make it applicable to WSON-LSC capable equipment."

What is more, I don't see any discussion of updates to the label format or =
usage in the document although Section 4 does say

   [RFC6205] defines the label format as applicable to LSC capable
   device. This document extends [RFC6205] as make its label format
   applicable also to WSON-LSC capable devices.

I don't think that applying the label to WSON without changing its meaning =
or the way it is used is really an "update".

YOUNG>> Yes, this is not correct. I would delete "This document extends [RF=
C6205] as make its label format
   applicable also to WSON-LSC capable devices."=20

---

Section 2 has FOADM, but it is not used in the document.

You need to hyphenate "Cross Connect" unless you are really angry :-)


YOUNG>> Corrected. No reason to be angry with a "-" :)=20
---

Section 3 gives a caption to a list

    List 1. WSON Signal Characteristics

I've not seen that before in an I-D, and since you don't refer to the list =
by name, I suggest you just delete this.

YOUNG>> Deleted.=20

---

I wish you hadn't suggested explicit values for the two new Error Codes in =
4.2.2 and 6. But we'll see what IANA says during IETF last call.

YOUNG>> Yes. Agree


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I forgot one item:

Section 2 has FOADM, but it is not used in the document.

I would delete FOAMD from the document.

Thanks,
Young

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Subject: Re: [CCAMP] AD review of draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling

Hi Adrian,

Thank you for your AD review. Here's my response to your comment.=20

Thanks,
Young

-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk]=20
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 8:49 AM
To: gregb@grotto-networking.com; xsg@nict.go.jp; Leeyoung; giomarti@cisco.c=
om; harai@nict.go.jp
Cc: 'CCAMP'; db3546@att.com; akatlas@gmail.com; Alvaro Retana
Subject: AD review of draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling

[Using explicit addresses because the tools aliases are currently unreliabl=
e]

Authors,

I've done my usual AD review of your document (the nth in the sequence of n=
+1 WSON drafts!). I have a few comments, and normally I would ask you for a=
 new revision at once, but because of dates and things I am going to start =
the IETF last call and enter these as last call comments.

The last call will end on 3/18 and you can post a new revision then (by sen=
ding it to me to ask the Secretary to post it) or wait to post it yourselve=
s when the gates reopen on 3/23.

Thanks for the work,
Adrian

=3D=3D=3D

You need to split the Authors' Addresses section and move out all those not=
 on the current front page to be present in a Contributors section.

YOUNG>> Yes, agree.=20

---

You seem to have the name of RFC 6205 in the references section a bit wrong=
!

YOUNG>> OK. Corrected to "Generalized Labels for Lambda-Switch-Capable (LSC=
) Label Switching Routers".=20

---
                                             =20
Do you really mean that you are updating 6205? That is the document that de=
fines lambda labels.

It has no mention of G.709 despite what you say in the Abstract. This
seems a little odd.                         =20

YOUNG>> I agree. No need to talk about G.709 and this document does not upd=
ate 6205. So, I would delete the
Following paragraph from the Abstract:=20

  "These extensions build on previous
   work for the control of lambda and G.709 based networks, i.e. update
   RFC6205, to make it applicable to WSON-LSC capable equipment."

What is more, I don't see any discussion of updates to the label format or =
usage in the document although Section 4 does say

   [RFC6205] defines the label format as applicable to LSC capable
   device. This document extends [RFC6205] as make its label format
   applicable also to WSON-LSC capable devices.

I don't think that applying the label to WSON without changing its meaning =
or the way it is used is really an "update".

YOUNG>> Yes, this is not correct. I would delete "This document extends [RF=
C6205] as make its label format
   applicable also to WSON-LSC capable devices."=20

---

Section 2 has FOADM, but it is not used in the document.

You need to hyphenate "Cross Connect" unless you are really angry :-)


YOUNG>> Corrected. No reason to be angry with a "-" :)=20
---

Section 3 gives a caption to a list

    List 1. WSON Signal Characteristics

I've not seen that before in an I-D, and since you don't refer to the list =
by name, I suggest you just delete this.

YOUNG>> Deleted.=20

---

I wish you hadn't suggested explicit values for the two new Error Codes in =
4.2.2 and 6. But we'll see what IANA says during IETF last call.

YOUNG>> Yes. Agree

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : Signaling Extensions for Wavelength Switched Optical Networks
        Authors         : Greg M. Bernstein
                          Sugang Xu
                          Young Lee
                          Giovanni Martinelli
                          Hiroaki Harai
	Filename        : draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling-10.txt
	Pages           : 16
	Date            : 2015-03-09

Abstract:
   This memo provides extensions to Generalized Multi-Protocol Label
   Switching (GMPLS) signaling for control of Wavelength Switched
   Optical Networks (WSON).  Such extensions are applicable in WSONs
   under a number of conditions including: (a) when optional
   processing, such as regeneration, must be configured to occur at
   specific nodes along a path, (b) where equipment must be configured
   to accept an optical signal with specific attributes, or (c) where
   equipment must be configured to output an optical signal with
   specific attributes. In addition this memo provides mechanisms to
   support distributed wavelength assignment with choice in distributed
   wavelength assignment algorithms.


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"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"

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"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
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A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.

        
        RFC 7487

        Title:      Configuration of Proactive Operations, Administration, 
                    and Maintenance (OAM) Functions for MPLS-Based 
                    Transport Networks Using RSVP-TE 
        Author:     E. Bellagamba, A. Takacs,
                    G. Mirsky, L. Andersson,
                    P. Skoldstrom, D. Ward
        Status:     Standards Track
        Stream:     IETF
        Date:       March 2015
        Mailbox:    elisa.bellagamba@ericsson.com, 
                    attila.takacs@ericsson.com, 
                    gregory.mirsky@ericsson.com,
                    loa@mail01.huawei.com, 
                    pontus.skoldstrom@acreo.se, 
                    dward@cisco.com
        Pages:      32
        Characters: 67217
        Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso:   None

        I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext-16.txt

        URL:        https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7487

This specification describes the configuration of proactive MPLS
Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) Operations, Administration, and
Maintenance (OAM) functions for a given Label Switched Path (LSP)
using a set of TLVs that are carried by the GMPLS RSVP-TE protocol
based on the OAM Configuration Framework for GMPLS RSVP-TE.

This document is a product of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF.

This is now a Proposed Standard.

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Hi CCAMP,

Please note that the agenda was updated: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeti=
ng/92/agenda/ccamp/

The following WG drafts will be presented and discussed


-          draft-ietf-ccamp-flexi-grid-fwk  -03

-          draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext  -01

-          draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-rsvp-te-ext-02

-          draft-ietf-ccamp-flexigrid-lambda-label -03

-          draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info-01

-          draft-ietf-ccamp-grid-property-lmp

while the following ones are not on the agenda:


-          draft-ietf-ccamp-additional-signal-type-g709v3 -01

-          draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-extension-01

-          draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-signal-type-subregistry-01

-          draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability                -=
01

Authors please be prepared to give a short summary on the status of these d=
rafts, open issues and next steps/plans during the second slot in the agend=
a.

BR
Daniele & Fatai


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Please note that the agenda was updated: <a href=3D"=
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/92/agenda/ccamp/">
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/92/agenda/ccamp/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The following WG drafts will be presented and discus=
sed<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]>draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext&nbsp; -01<o=
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=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span><![endif]>draft-ietf-ccamp-flexigrid-lambda-label -03<o:p></o=
:p></p>
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=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
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</span></span><![endif]>draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info-01<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">while the following ones are not on the agenda: <o:p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span><![endif]>draft-ietf-ccamp-additional-signal-type-g709v3 -01<=
o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]>draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-signal-type-subregistry-01<o:p=
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p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp; -01<o:p></o:p></p>
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Daniele &amp; Fatai<o:p></o:p></p>
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Hi all,

This is a friendly reminder for sending your slides for the CCAMP session i=
n Dallas.

Please send them ASAP (no later than Sunday) as we will be meeting on Monda=
y 23rd.

Thanks
Daniele, Fatai, Oscar

From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of OSCAR GONZALEZ DE =
DIOS
Sent: gioved=EC 26 febbraio 2015 12:04
To: CCAMP
Subject: [CCAMP] IETF 92 - CCAMP slot request

Dear CCAMPers,

The IETF 92meeting @ Dallas is approaching and it's time to start collectin=
g agenda slots requests.



Keeping this in mind:

WG Draft authors are expected to present if there are open issues to discus=
s, or to send status to the list  *1 week* prior to the WG meeting if not p=
resenting. Status includes review of: any recent changes, any open discussi=
ons or issues, and planned next steps.



Agenda Requests:

- To submit a request, please fill the survey at the following link: http:/=
/www.surveygizmo.com/s3/2025402/IETF-92-CCAMP-slot-request

- Please fill the survey no later than Thursday, March5th.



Presentations:

  If you are presenting slides please make sure you send them to  all *indi=
viduals* listed above (Chairs, Secretary and exclude CCAMP) no later  than =
Sunday, March 22nd.



Reminder about a few important dates:

  *   2015-03-09 (Monday): Internet Draft submission cut-off (for all draft=
s, including -00) by UTC 23:59, upload usingIETF ID Submission Tool<https:/=
/datatracker.ietf.org/submit/>.
  *   2015-03-09 (Monday): Draft Working Group agendas due by UTC 23:59, up=
load using IETF Meeting Materials Management Tool<https://datatracker.ietf.=
org/cgi-bin/wg/wg_proceedings.cgi>.
  *   2015-03-16 (Monday): Revised Working Group agendas due by UTC 23:59, =
upload using IETF Meeting Materials Management Tool<https://datatracker.iet=
f.org/cgi-bin/wg/wg_proceedings.cgi>.
  *   2015-03-22 - 2015-03-27: IETF 92 in Dallas, TX, USA

Best Regards,

=D3scar

        CCAMP WG Secretary




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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">This is a friendly rem=
inder for sending your slides for the CCAMP session in Dallas.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Please send them ASAP =
(no later than Sunday) as we will be meeting on Monday 23<sup>rd</sup>.<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thanks<br>
Daniele, Fatai, Oscar<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> CCAMP [m=
ailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS<br>
<b>Sent:</b> gioved=EC 26 febbraio 2015 12:04<br>
<b>To:</b> CCAMP<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [CCAMP] IETF 92 - CCAMP slot request<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Dear CCAMPers,</span><sp=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"color:black">The IETF 92meeting&nbsp;@ Dallas&nbsp;=
is approaching and it&#8217;s time to start collecting agenda slots request=
s.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">&nbs=
p;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Keep=
ing this in mind:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">WG D=
raft authors are expected to present if there are open issues to discuss, o=
r to send status to the list&nbsp; *1 week* prior to the WG meeting if not =
presenting. Status includes review of: any
 recent changes, any open discussions or issues, and planned next steps.<o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">&nbs=
p;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><b><u><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black=
">Agenda Requests</span></u></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black=
">:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">- <b=
>To submit a request</b>, please fill the survey at the following link:
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><a href=3D"http://www=
.surveygizmo.com/s3/2025402/IETF-92-CCAMP-slot-request">http://www.surveygi=
zmo.com/s3/2025402/IETF-92-CCAMP-slot-request</a></span><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">- Pl=
ease fill the survey no later than
<b>Thursday, March5<sup>th</sup></b>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">&nbs=
p;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><b><u><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black=
">Presentations:</span></u></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"=
><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">&nbs=
p; If you are presenting slides please make sure you send them to&nbsp; all=
 *individuals* listed above (Chairs, Secretary and exclude CCAMP) no later&=
nbsp; than
<b>Sunday,</b></span><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"> =
</span></i></b><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">March 22nd.<=
/span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
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nbsp;</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><b><u><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black=
">Reminder about a few important dates</span></u></b><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.5pt;color:black">:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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s-serif&quot;">2015-03-09 (Monday):</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:9.5p=
t;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;Internet Dr=
aft submission cut-off (for all drafts, including -00) by UTC 23:59, upload=
 using<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/submit/">IETF
 ID Submission Tool</a>.</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt"><o:p></o:p>=
</span></li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-margin-top-alt=
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<b><span style=3D"font-size:9.5pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;san=
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Title: LS/r on Application Codes for Wavelength Switched Optical Networks (reply to IETF-CCAMP-LS014)
Submission Date: 2015-03-20
URL of the IETF Web page: http://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1388/

From: ITU-T SG 15  (Greg Jones <greg.jones@itu.int>)
To: Common Control and Measurement Plane (Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>, Fatai Zhang <zhangfatai@huawei.com>)
Cc: Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>,Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com>,ccamp@ietf.org,John Drake <jdrake@juniper.net>,Scott Mansfield <Scott.Mansfield@Ericsson.com>
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Technical Contact: 
Purpose: In response
Referenced liaison: Application Codes for Wavelength Switched Optical Networks (http://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1377/)
Body: ITU-T Q6/15 thanks the CCAMP Working Group of IETF for their Liaison Statement, dated 16 January 2015.

Q6/15 reviewed in its interim meeting in Berlin, 16-19 March 2015, CCAMP’s document https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode/ and the questions raised in the Liaison Statement.

Q6/15 would like to provide the following responses to the various questions:

• Are we capturing current application codes? In other words, are our references correct and correctly used? 
    o Recommendations ITU-T G.698.1, ITU-T G.698.2, ITU-T G.959.1 and ITU-T G.695 all are current Recommendations and regularly updated.          
    Note, the application spaces for these Recommendations are quite different. ITU-T G.698.1 and ITU-T G.698.2 support metro applications over 
    a DWDM network (e.g. optical add-drop multiplexers may be present). Whereas, ITU-T G.959.1 is scoped to a point-to-point configuration and it 
    may not be applicable for an optically switched network. 
    o Therefore the answer to CCAMP’s question is “YES” with respect to the question if these are current application codes. Depending on the 
    intended application scope of WSON, it is not clear to Q6/15 if the use is correct. 

• Are there any application codes we are missing? 
    o Q6/15 assumes CCAMP is referring to additional Recommendations and not individual application codes within the above mentioned    
    Recommendations. 
    o Q6/15 would suggest that CCAMP looks at other optical interface Recommendations like ITU-T G.693 or ITU-T G.698.3 to see if these fit the 
    application space of CCAMP’s document. 
• Is our set of references correct and have we included all of the application codes in the references? 
    o See response above. 
• Have we captured all of the parameters of the application codes? 
    o Q6/15 is not aware of any parameters missing. 
•  In our attempt to capture the application codes into formats we can use in our protocols, have we found all of the parameters that comprise the           application codes? 
    o Q6/15 is not aware of any parameters missing. 
• Are the fields for each parameter of each application code appropriately sized and with the correct ranges?
    o Q6/15 feels that these are OK for the current application codes. 
    o With respect to the F suffix, which has been encoded as; “F (suffix): = 0 No FEC Encoding suffix present, = 1 FEC Encoding suffix present”,    
    the interpretation “An Optional F can be added indicating a FEC Encoding” is not clear. Note, in all of the application codes in question, FEC is 
    not optional when it is present in the application code. F, when present in a code, indicates “this application requires FEC bytes as specified in 
    [ITU-T G.709] to be transmitted.” Therefore, this is not any FEC, but a specific FEC code, which in this example is a ITU-T G.709 FEC and it is  
    required to be always transmitted. This implies that using an application code containing the suffix “F”, the choice of a specific FEC is mandatory 
    and that there is no choice in the type of FEC.
• In other words, will we be able to properly encode the application codes defined today and their possible future extensions?
   o Q6/15 feels that your coding method may not be sufficiently future proof to cover possible extensions to existing Recommendations, of which 
   100G phase modulated signals in a future version of ITU-T G.698.2 is an example. While at this point Q6/15 does not know which extensions are   
   going to be required, it cannot be excluded that a new application code

As Q6/15 further progresses with the work on the revision of its optical interface Recommendations, we would be happy to inform CCAMP about the progress made. Q6/15 looks forward to further exchanges of information with CCAMP.
Attachments:

    SG15-LS229_WP2-146
    https://datatracker.ietf.org/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2015-03-20-itu-t-sg-15-ccamp-lsr-on-application-codes-for-wavelength-switched-optical-networks-reply-to-ietf-ccamp-ls014-attachment-1.pdf


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Hi all,

As anticipated during the Admin+Status presentation in CCAMP, a Routing Are=
a YANG coordination activity is being put in place.
Please have a look below:

*       There is an explosion of YANG work in the IETF in general and the R=
outing Area in particular
*       It is very important that all of these YANG models stay coordinated
*       Those writing or thinking of writing YANG-related drafts in Routing=
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*       Read the YANG Coordination Wiki at http://<http://trac.tools.ietf.o=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"IT">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"IT"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">As anticipated during the Admin&#43;Status presentat=
ion in CCAMP, a Routing Area YANG coordination activity is being put in pla=
ce.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Please have a look below:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-=
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</span></span></span><![endif]>There is an explosion of YANG work in the IE=
TF in general and the Routing Area in particular<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-=
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</span></span></span><![endif]>It is very important that all of these YANG =
models stay coordinated<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-=
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</span></span></span><![endif]><b>Those writing or thinking of writing YANG=
-related drafts in Routing Area WGs should:<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-=
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</span></span></span><![endif]>Read the YANG Coordination Wiki at <a href=
=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgYangCoord">
http://</a><a href=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgYang=
Coord">trac.tools.ietf.org</a><a href=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rt=
g/trac/wiki/RtgYangCoord">/area/rtg/trac/wiki/</a><a href=3D"http://trac.to=
ols.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgYangCoord">RtgYangCoord</a>
 and follow the instructions to include your draft in the wiki.<o:p></o:p><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-=
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</span></span></span><![endif]>Join the Routing Area YANG Coordination emai=
l list at
<a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtg-yang-coord">https://ww=
w.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtg-yang-</a><a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/ma=
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</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Daniele &amp; Fatai<o:p></o:p></p>
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Dear authors of G.698.2 draft,

This is a follow up of my comment to your presentations in CCAMP. I checked=
 the minutes of the IETF91 meeting (http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ccamp/minutes?=
item=3Dminutes-91-ccamp.html) and, assuming the power was removed from the =
list of managed parameters, the WG showed good interest in working on the t=
opic.

I see the power was not removed from the drafts and I was wondering what ar=
e you plans. Are you willing to keep it in it or available to get rid of it=
?

BR
Daniele

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<o:p></o:p></p>
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Hi Daniele,

we agree to remove the transmit power settings from LMP and from the SNMP M=
IB documents. Regarding the power reading, we believe that this is a needed=
 parameter to verify  the maximum channel power difference as specified in =
 G. 692 (Table 7): "This recommendation specifies the possibility of loss b=
etween reference points S and Rm" as per figure 1/G.692.
We will update and re-submit the document right after this IETF meeting. Wi=
th this latest update we believe to address all the concerns of the working=
 group and if there are no further objections we can proceed with acceptanc=
e as WG documents.

BR

The authors of the drafts

Gabriele, Gert and Ruediger


Von: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] Im Auftrag von Daniele Ceccarell=
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Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. M=E4rz 2015 20:44
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Betreff: [CCAMP] G.698.2 drafts way forward

Dear authors of G.698.2 draft,

This is a follow up of my comment to your presentations in CCAMP. I checked=
 the minutes of the IETF91 meeting (http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ccamp/minutes?=
item=3Dminutes-91-ccamp.html) and, assuming the power was removed from the =
list of managed parameters, the WG showed good interest in working on the t=
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I see the power was not removed from the drafts and I was wondering what ar=
e you plans. Are you willing to keep it in it or available to get rid of it=
?

BR
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o remove the transmit power settings from LMP and from the SNMP MIB documen=
ts. Regarding the power reading, we believe that this is a needed parameter=
 to verify=A0 the maximum channel power difference as specified in =A0G. 69=
2 (Table 7): &#8220;This recommendation specifies the possibility of loss b=
etween reference points S and Rm&#8221; as per figure 1/G.692.<o:p></o:p></=
span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:#1F497D'>We=
 will update and re-submit the document right after this IETF meeting. With=
 this latest update we believe to address all the concerns of the working g=
roup and if there are no further objections we can proceed with acceptance =
as WG documents.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-=
US style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal=
><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:#1F497D'>BR<o:p></o:p></span></p><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><=
/span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:#1F497D'>T=
he authors of the drafts<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span la=
ng=3DEN-US style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DM=
soNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Gabriele, Gert and Rued=
iger<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D=
'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F=
497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top=
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an style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Von:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> CCA=
MP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Daniele Ceccarelli=
<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 24. M=E4rz 2015 20:44<br><b>An:</b> CCAMP (c=
camp@ietf.org)<br><b>Betreff:</b> [CCAMP] G.698.2 drafts way forward<o:p></=
o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>Dear authors of G.698.2 draft,<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span>=
</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>This is a follow up of my comme=
nt to your presentations in CCAMP. I checked the minutes of the IETF91 meet=
ing (<a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ccamp/minutes?item=3Dminutes-91-cc=
amp.html">http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ccamp/minutes?item=3Dminutes-91-ccamp.ht=
ml</a>) and, assuming the power was removed from the list of managed parame=
ters, the WG showed good interest in working on the topic. <o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>I see the power was not removed from=
 the drafts and I was wondering what are you plans. Are you willing to keep=
 it in it or available to get rid of it? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DM=
soNormal><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l><span lang=3DEN-US>BR<br>Daniele<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html=
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    <font face="Tahoma">Hi all,<br>
      <br>
      here are my 2 cents:<br>
      <br>
      The exchange of power values between adjacent NEs does IMHO only
      make sense, if there is a use case that justifies this and an<br>
      application/procedure that needs these values as input parameters.<br>
      <br>
      Application codes as defined in G.698.2 do currently define Tx and
      Rx power value ranges at reference points Ss and Rs, respectively.<br>
      <br>
      A power level control loop that adjusts power levels such that the
      input/output power range at the reference point stays within<br>
      the given range could be an example of a use case/application that
      may require the exchange of the current input/output values.<br>
      <br>
      The draft does not provide a reasonable use case nor does it
      describe an application/procedure that makes use of these values.
      So,<br>
      there is a gap which IMHO needs to be filled before we can decide
      whether to keep the exchange of power level values or whether<br>
      they should be removed.<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Thanks,<br>
      Dieter<br>
    </font><br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26.03.2015 21:37, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:RKunze@telekom.de">RKunze@telekom.de</a>
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Hi
            Daniele, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">we
            agree to remove the transmit power settings from LMP and
            from the SNMP MIB documents. Regarding the power reading, we
            believe that this is a needed parameter to verify  the
            maximum channel power difference as specified in  G. 692
            (Table 7): “This recommendation specifies the possibility of
            loss between reference points S and Rm” as per figure
            1/G.692.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">We
            will update and re-submit the document right after this IETF
            meeting. With this latest update we believe to address all
            the concerns of the working group and if there are no
            further objections we can proceed with acceptance as WG
            documents.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">BR<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">The
            authors of the drafts<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Gabriele,
            Gert and Ruediger<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                CCAMP [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</a>] <b>Im Auftrag von
                </b>Daniele Ceccarelli<br>
                <b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 24. März 2015 20:44<br>
                <b>An:</b> CCAMP (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a>)<br>
                <b>Betreff:</b> [CCAMP] G.698.2 drafts way forward<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dear authors of G.698.2
            draft,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">This is a follow up of
            my comment to your presentations in CCAMP. I checked the
            minutes of the IETF91 meeting (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ccamp/minutes?item=minutes-91-ccamp.html">http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ccamp/minutes?item=minutes-91-ccamp.html</a>)
            and, assuming the power was removed from the list of managed
            parameters, the WG showed good interest in working on the
            topic. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I see the power was not
            removed from the drafts and I was wondering what are you
            plans. Are you willing to keep it in it or available to get
            rid of it? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">BR<br>
            Daniele<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Dieter,

We assume you are referring to http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-dharinigert-c=
camp-g-698-2-lmp-09.txt and invite you to review the introduction part. Mor=
e 'exotic' use cases like control loops would require a read and a write op=
eration for power levels. However in particular the write operation was con=
sidered unsuitable by the optical experts commenting in the past. We would =
certainly appreciate if you could point us to ITU-T Recommendations support=
ing such a use case and in particular to an information model supporting wr=
ite operations of power levels.

BR

R=FCdiger

Von: Dieter Beller [mailto:Dieter.Beller@alcatel-lucent.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. M=E4rz 2015 22:48
An: Kunze, R=FCdiger; daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com; ccamp@ietf.org
Cc: paul.doolan@coriant.com
Betreff: Re: [CCAMP] G.698.2 drafts way forward

Hi all,

here are my 2 cents:

The exchange of power values between adjacent NEs does IMHO only make sense=
, if there is a use case that justifies this and an
application/procedure that needs these values as input parameters.

Application codes as defined in G.698.2 do currently define Tx and Rx power=
 value ranges at reference points Ss and Rs, respectively.

A power level control loop that adjusts power levels such that the input/ou=
tput power range at the reference point stays within
the given range could be an example of a use case/application that may requ=
ire the exchange of the current input/output values.

The draft does not provide a reasonable use case nor does it describe an ap=
plication/procedure that makes use of these values. So,
there is a gap which IMHO needs to be filled before we can decide whether t=
o keep the exchange of power level values or whether
they should be removed.


Thanks,
Dieter
On 26.03.2015 21:37, RKunze@telekom.de<mailto:RKunze@telekom.de> wrote:
Hi Daniele,

we agree to remove the transmit power settings from LMP and from the SNMP M=
IB documents. Regarding the power reading, we believe that this is a needed=
 parameter to verify  the maximum channel power difference as specified in =
 G. 692 (Table 7): "This recommendation specifies the possibility of loss b=
etween reference points S and Rm" as per figure 1/G.692.
We will update and re-submit the document right after this IETF meeting. Wi=
th this latest update we believe to address all the concerns of the working=
 group and if there are no further objections we can proceed with acceptanc=
e as WG documents.

BR

The authors of the drafts

Gabriele, Gert and Ruediger


Von: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] Im Auftrag von Daniele Ceccarell=
i
Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. M=E4rz 2015 20:44
An: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org<mailto:ccamp@ietf.org>)
Betreff: [CCAMP] G.698.2 drafts way forward

Dear authors of G.698.2 draft,

This is a follow up of my comment to your presentations in CCAMP. I checked=
 the minutes of the IETF91 meeting (http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ccamp/minutes?=
item=3Dminutes-91-ccamp.html) and, assuming the power was removed from the =
list of managed parameters, the WG showed good interest in working on the t=
opic.

I see the power was not removed from the drafts and I was wondering what ar=
e you plans. Are you willing to keep it in it or available to get rid of it=
?

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nk=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><sp=
an lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Dieter,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
</span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:#1F497D'>=
We assume you are referring to <a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-dh=
arinigert-ccamp-g-698-2-lmp-09.txt">http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-dharinig=
ert-ccamp-g-698-2-lmp-09.txt</a> and invite you to review the introduction =
part. More &#8216;exotic&#8217; use cases like control loops would require =
a read and a write operation for power levels. However in particular the wr=
ite operation was considered unsuitable by the optical experts commenting i=
n the past. We would certainly appreciate if you could point us to ITU-T Re=
commendations supporting such a use case and in particular to an informatio=
n model supporting write operations of power levels.<o:p></o:p></span></p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:#1F4=
97D'>BR<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=
=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span l=
ang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:#1F497D'>R=FCdiger<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padd=
ing:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>Von:</span></b><spa=
n style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowt=
ext'> Dieter Beller [mailto:Dieter.Beller@alcatel-lucent.com] <br><b>Gesend=
et:</b> Donnerstag, 26. M=E4rz 2015 22:48<br><b>An:</b> Kunze, R=FCdiger; d=
aniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com; ccamp@ietf.org<br><b>Cc:</b> paul.doolan@co=
riant.com<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [CCAMP] G.698.2 drafts way forward<o:p></o=
:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-family:"Ta=
homa","sans-serif"'>Hi all,<br><br>here are my 2 cents:<br><br>The exchange=
 of power values between adjacent NEs does IMHO only make sense, if there i=
s a use case that justifies this and an<br>application/procedure that needs=
 these values as input parameters.<br><br>Application codes as defined in G=
.698.2 do currently define Tx and Rx power value ranges at reference points=
 Ss and Rs, respectively.<br><br>A power level control loop that adjusts po=
wer levels such that the input/output power range at the reference point st=
ays within<br>the given range could be an example of a use case/application=
 that may require the exchange of the current input/output values.<br><br>T=
he draft does not provide a reasonable use case nor does it describe an app=
lication/procedure that makes use of these values. So,<br>there is a gap wh=
ich IMHO needs to be filled before we can decide whether to keep the exchan=
ge of power level values or whether<br>they should be removed.<br><br><br>T=
hanks,<br>Dieter</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On 26.03.20=
15 21:37, <a href=3D"mailto:RKunze@telekom.de">RKunze@telekom.de</a> wrote:=
<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.=
0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Hi Dan=
iele, </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=
=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span l=
ang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:#1F497D'>we agree to remove the transmit power s=
ettings from LMP and from the SNMP MIB documents. Regarding the power readi=
ng, we believe that this is a needed parameter to verify&nbsp; the maximum =
channel power difference as specified in &nbsp;G. 692 (Table 7): &#8220;Thi=
s recommendation specifies the possibility of loss between reference points=
 S and Rm&#8221; as per figure 1/G.692.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMso=
Normal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:#1F497D'>We will update and re-sub=
mit the document right after this IETF meeting. With this latest update we =
believe to address all the concerns of the working group and if there are n=
o further objections we can proceed with acceptance as WG documents.</span>=
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:#1F49=
7D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US sty=
le=3D'color:#1F497D'>BR</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lan=
g=3DEN-US style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMs=
oNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:#1F497D'>The authors of the draft=
s</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'col=
or:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DE=
N-US style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Gabriele, Gert and Ruediger</span><o:p></o:p><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o=
:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p=
></o:p></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;pa=
dding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Von:</span></b><span style=3D'font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> CCAMP [<a href=3D"mailto:c=
camp-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</a>] <b>Im Auftrag von=
 </b>Daniele Ceccarelli<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 24. M=E4rz 2015 20:44=
<br><b>An:</b> CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a>)=
<br><b>Betreff:</b> [CCAMP] G.698.2 drafts way forward</span><o:p></o:p></p=
></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal=
><span lang=3DEN-US>Dear authors of G.698.2 draft,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>This is a follow up of my comment to your p=
resentations in CCAMP. I checked the minutes of the IETF91 meeting (<a href=
=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ccamp/minutes?item=3Dminutes-91-ccamp.html">ht=
tp://tools.ietf.org/wg/ccamp/minutes?item=3Dminutes-91-ccamp.html</a>) and,=
 assuming the power was removed from the list of managed parameters, the WG=
 showed good interest in working on the topic. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMs=
oNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>I see the power was not removed from the drafts =
and I was wondering what are you plans. Are you willing to keep it in it or=
 available to get rid of it? </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><sp=
an lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=
=3DEN-US>BR<br>Daniele</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span styl=
e=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><br><br><br><o=
:p></o:p></span></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:=
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    <font face="Tahoma">Hi Rüdiger, all,<br>
      <br>
      I discussed the issue with Gabriele this morning and we reached an
      agreement how to move forward.<br>
    </font><br>
    One of the use cases we discussed this morning is monitoring the
    power level on the ROADM sided that requires knowledge of the<br>
    current Tx power value at the Ss reference point. Together with the
    knowledge of the attenuation of the fiber link between Ss and<br>
    a power monitoring point on the ROADM side, it is possible to
    calculate the expected power level at this measurement point which<br>
    can then be used to monitor the received power level. If it drops
    below a certain threshold, an alarm can be raised. The same thing<br>
    is also possible in reverse direction.<br>
    <br>
    Gabriele is going to work on a description of these use cases. We
    also draw a figure that could be added to the draft illustrating the<br>
    use cases.<br>
    <br>
    If required, we may also have to suggest IM extensions supporting
    these use cases - this still remains to be seen.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    Thanks,<br>
    Dieter<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 27.03.2015 00:36, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:RKunze@telekom.de">RKunze@telekom.de</a>
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Dieter,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">We
            assume you are referring to <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-dharinigert-ccamp-g-698-2-lmp-09.txt">http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-dharinigert-ccamp-g-698-2-lmp-09.txt</a>
            and invite you to review the introduction part. More
            ‘exotic’ use cases like control loops would require a read
            and a write operation for power levels. However in
            particular the write operation was considered unsuitable by
            the optical experts commenting in the past. We would
            certainly appreciate if you could point us to ITU-T
            Recommendations supporting such a use case and in particular
            to an information model supporting write operations of power
            levels.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">BR<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Rüdiger<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext">Von:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext">
                Dieter Beller [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:Dieter.Beller@alcatel-lucent.com">mailto:Dieter.Beller@alcatel-lucent.com</a>]
                <br>
                <b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 26. März 2015 22:48<br>
                <b>An:</b> Kunze, Rüdiger;
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com">daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a><br>
                <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:paul.doolan@coriant.com">paul.doolan@coriant.com</a><br>
                <b>Betreff:</b> Re: [CCAMP] G.698.2 drafts way forward<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
            style="font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Hi
            all,<br>
            <br>
            here are my 2 cents:<br>
            <br>
            The exchange of power values between adjacent NEs does IMHO
            only make sense, if there is a use case that justifies this
            and an<br>
            application/procedure that needs these values as input
            parameters.<br>
            <br>
            Application codes as defined in G.698.2 do currently define
            Tx and Rx power value ranges at reference points Ss and Rs,
            respectively.<br>
            <br>
            A power level control loop that adjusts power levels such
            that the input/output power range at the reference point
            stays within<br>
            the given range could be an example of a use
            case/application that may require the exchange of the
            current input/output values.<br>
            <br>
            The draft does not provide a reasonable use case nor does it
            describe an application/procedure that makes use of these
            values. So,<br>
            there is a gap which IMHO needs to be filled before we can
            decide whether to keep the exchange of power level values or
            whether<br>
            they should be removed.<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            Thanks,<br>
            Dieter</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal">On 26.03.2015 21:37, <a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:RKunze@telekom.de">RKunze@telekom.de</a>
            wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
        </div>
        <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Hi
              Daniele, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">we
              agree to remove the transmit power settings from LMP and
              from the SNMP MIB documents. Regarding the power reading,
              we believe that this is a needed parameter to verify  the
              maximum channel power difference as specified in  G. 692
              (Table 7): “This recommendation specifies the possibility
              of loss between reference points S and Rm” as per figure
              1/G.692.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">We
              will update and re-submit the document right after this
              IETF meeting. With this latest update we believe to
              address all the concerns of the working group and if there
              are no further objections we can proceed with acceptance
              as WG documents.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">BR</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">The
              authors of the drafts</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Gabriele,
              Gert and Ruediger</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Von:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
                  CCAMP [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
                  <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Daniele Ceccarelli<br>
                  <b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 24. März 2015 20:44<br>
                  <b>An:</b> CCAMP (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a>)<br>
                  <b>Betreff:</b> [CCAMP] G.698.2 drafts way forward</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dear authors of
              G.698.2 draft,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">This is a follow up of
              my comment to your presentations in CCAMP. I checked the
              minutes of the IETF91 meeting (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ccamp/minutes?item=minutes-91-ccamp.html">http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ccamp/minutes?item=minutes-91-ccamp.html</a>)
              and, assuming the power was removed from the list of
              managed parameters, the WG showed good interest in working
              on the topic. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I see the power was
              not removed from the drafts and I was wondering what are
              you plans. Are you willing to keep it in it or available
              to get rid of it? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">BR<br>
              Daniele</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New
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              <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Hi Dieter, Gabriele, all,

I'm very happy to hear about that. Thanks for finding the time discuss and =
finding an agreement.

We're looking forward to seeing an updated version of the draft soon.

Thanks
Daniele

From: Dieter Beller [mailto:Dieter.Beller@alcatel-lucent.com]
Sent: venerd=EC 27 marzo 2015 10:20
To: RKunze@telekom.de; Daniele Ceccarelli; ccamp@ietf.org
Cc: paul.doolan@coriant.com
Subject: Re: AW: [CCAMP] G.698.2 drafts way forward

Hi R=FCdiger, all,

I discussed the issue with Gabriele this morning and we reached an agreemen=
t how to move forward.

One of the use cases we discussed this morning is monitoring the power leve=
l on the ROADM sided that requires knowledge of the
current Tx power value at the Ss reference point. Together with the knowled=
ge of the attenuation of the fiber link between Ss and
a power monitoring point on the ROADM side, it is possible to calculate the=
 expected power level at this measurement point which
can then be used to monitor the received power level. If it drops below a c=
ertain threshold, an alarm can be raised. The same thing
is also possible in reverse direction.

Gabriele is going to work on a description of these use cases. We also draw=
 a figure that could be added to the draft illustrating the
use cases.

If required, we may also have to suggest IM extensions supporting these use=
 cases - this still remains to be seen.


Thanks,
Dieter

On 27.03.2015 00:36, RKunze@telekom.de<mailto:RKunze@telekom.de> wrote:
Dieter,

We assume you are referring to http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-dharinigert-c=
camp-g-698-2-lmp-09.txt and invite you to review the introduction part. Mor=
e 'exotic' use cases like control loops would require a read and a write op=
eration for power levels. However in particular the write operation was con=
sidered unsuitable by the optical experts commenting in the past. We would =
certainly appreciate if you could point us to ITU-T Recommendations support=
ing such a use case and in particular to an information model supporting wr=
ite operations of power levels.

BR

R=FCdiger

Von: Dieter Beller [mailto:Dieter.Beller@alcatel-lucent.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. M=E4rz 2015 22:48
An: Kunze, R=FCdiger; daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com<mailto:daniele.ceccar=
elli@ericsson.com>; ccamp@ietf.org<mailto:ccamp@ietf.org>
Cc: paul.doolan@coriant.com<mailto:paul.doolan@coriant.com>
Betreff: Re: [CCAMP] G.698.2 drafts way forward

Hi all,

here are my 2 cents:

The exchange of power values between adjacent NEs does IMHO only make sense=
, if there is a use case that justifies this and an
application/procedure that needs these values as input parameters.

Application codes as defined in G.698.2 do currently define Tx and Rx power=
 value ranges at reference points Ss and Rs, respectively.

A power level control loop that adjusts power levels such that the input/ou=
tput power range at the reference point stays within
the given range could be an example of a use case/application that may requ=
ire the exchange of the current input/output values.

The draft does not provide a reasonable use case nor does it describe an ap=
plication/procedure that makes use of these values. So,
there is a gap which IMHO needs to be filled before we can decide whether t=
o keep the exchange of power level values or whether
they should be removed.


Thanks,
Dieter
On 26.03.2015 21:37, RKunze@telekom.de<mailto:RKunze@telekom.de> wrote:
Hi Daniele,

we agree to remove the transmit power settings from LMP and from the SNMP M=
IB documents. Regarding the power reading, we believe that this is a needed=
 parameter to verify  the maximum channel power difference as specified in =
 G. 692 (Table 7): "This recommendation specifies the possibility of loss b=
etween reference points S and Rm" as per figure 1/G.692.
We will update and re-submit the document right after this IETF meeting. Wi=
th this latest update we believe to address all the concerns of the working=
 group and if there are no further objections we can proceed with acceptanc=
e as WG documents.

BR

The authors of the drafts

Gabriele, Gert and Ruediger


Von: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] Im Auftrag von Daniele Ceccarell=
i
Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. M=E4rz 2015 20:44
An: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org<mailto:ccamp@ietf.org>)
Betreff: [CCAMP] G.698.2 drafts way forward

Dear authors of G.698.2 draft,

This is a follow up of my comment to your presentations in CCAMP. I checked=
 the minutes of the IETF91 meeting (http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ccamp/minutes?=
item=3Dminutes-91-ccamp.html) and, assuming the power was removed from the =
list of managed parameters, the WG showed good interest in working on the t=
opic.

I see the power was not removed from the drafts and I was wondering what ar=
e you plans. Are you willing to keep it in it or available to get rid of it=
?

BR
Daniele





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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Hi Dieter, Gabriele, a=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">I&#8217;m very happy t=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">We&#8217;re looking fo=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thanks<o:p></o:p></spa=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
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n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;;color:windowtext"> Dieter Beller [mailto:Dieter.Beller@alcatel-lucen=
t.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> venerd=EC 27 marzo 2015 10:20<br>
<b>To:</b> RKunze@telekom.de; Daniele Ceccarelli; ccamp@ietf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> paul.doolan@coriant.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: AW: [CCAMP] G.698.2 drafts way forward<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-f=
amily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Hi R=FCdiger, all,<br>
<br>
I discussed the issue with Gabriele this morning and we reached an agreemen=
t how to move forward.<br>
</span><br>
One of the use cases we discussed this morning is monitoring the power leve=
l on the ROADM sided that requires knowledge of the<br>
current Tx power value at the Ss reference point. Together with the knowled=
ge of the attenuation of the fiber link between Ss and<br>
a power monitoring point on the ROADM side, it is possible to calculate the=
 expected power level at this measurement point which<br>
can then be used to monitor the received power level. If it drops below a c=
ertain threshold, an alarm can be raised. The same thing<br>
is also possible in reverse direction.<br>
<br>
Gabriele is going to work on a description of these use cases. We also draw=
 a figure that could be added to the draft illustrating the<br>
use cases.<br>
<br>
If required, we may also have to suggest IM extensions supporting these use=
 cases - this still remains to be seen.<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Dieter<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 27.03.2015 00:36, <a href=3D"mailto:RKunze@teleko=
m.de">RKunze@telekom.de</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Dieter,</span><o:p></o=
:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:=
p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">We assume you are refe=
rring to <a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-dharinigert-ccamp-g-698-=
2-lmp-09.txt">
http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-dharinigert-ccamp-g-698-2-lmp-09.txt</a> and=
 invite you to review the introduction part. More &#8216;exotic&#8217; use =
cases like control loops would require a read and a write operation for pow=
er levels. However in particular the write operation
 was considered unsuitable by the optical experts commenting in the past. W=
e would certainly appreciate if you could point us to ITU-T Recommendations=
 supporting such a use case and in particular to an information model suppo=
rting write operations of power
 levels.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:=
p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">BR</span><o:p></o:p></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:=
p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">R=FCdiger</span><o:p><=
/o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:=
p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext">Von:</span></b><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&=
quot;;color:windowtext"> Dieter Beller [<a href=3D"mailto:Dieter.Beller@alc=
atel-lucent.com">mailto:Dieter.Beller@alcatel-lucent.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 26. M=E4rz 2015 22:48<br>
<b>An:</b> Kunze, R=FCdiger; <a href=3D"mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.=
com">daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com</a>;
<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:paul.doolan@coriant.com">paul.doolan@coriant.c=
om</a><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [CCAMP] G.698.2 drafts way forward</span><o:p></o:p></p=
>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-f=
amily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Hi all,<br>
<br>
here are my 2 cents:<br>
<br>
The exchange of power values between adjacent NEs does IMHO only make sense=
, if there is a use case that justifies this and an<br>
application/procedure that needs these values as input parameters.<br>
<br>
Application codes as defined in G.698.2 do currently define Tx and Rx power=
 value ranges at reference points Ss and Rs, respectively.<br>
<br>
A power level control loop that adjusts power levels such that the input/ou=
tput power range at the reference point stays within<br>
the given range could be an example of a use case/application that may requ=
ire the exchange of the current input/output values.<br>
<br>
The draft does not provide a reasonable use case nor does it describe an ap=
plication/procedure that makes use of these values. So,<br>
there is a gap which IMHO needs to be filled before we can decide whether t=
o keep the exchange of power level values or whether<br>
they should be removed.<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Dieter</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 26.03.2015 21:37, <a href=3D"mailto:RKunze@teleko=
m.de">RKunze@telekom.de</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Hi Daniele, </span><o:=
p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:=
p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">we agree to remove the=
 transmit power settings from LMP and from the SNMP MIB documents. Regardin=
g the power reading, we believe that this is a needed parameter to verify&n=
bsp; the maximum channel power difference
 as specified in &nbsp;G. 692 (Table 7): &#8220;This recommendation specifi=
es the possibility of loss between reference points S and Rm&#8221; as per =
figure 1/G.692.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">We will update and re-=
submit the document right after this IETF meeting. With this latest update =
we believe to address all the concerns of the working group and if there ar=
e no further objections we can proceed
 with acceptance as WG documents.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:=
p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">BR</span><o:p></o:p></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:=
p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">The authors of the dra=
fts</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:=
p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Gabriele, Gert and Rue=
diger</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:=
p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:=
p></p>
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Von:</span></b><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> CCAMP [<a=
 href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>Im Auftrag von </b>Daniele Ceccarelli<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 24. M=E4rz 2015 20:44<br>
<b>An:</b> CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a>)<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> [CCAMP] G.698.2 drafts way forward</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dear authors of G.698.2 draft,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">This is a follow up of my comment to your presentati=
ons in CCAMP. I checked the minutes of the IETF91 meeting (<a href=3D"http:=
//tools.ietf.org/wg/ccamp/minutes?item=3Dminutes-91-ccamp.html">http://tool=
s.ietf.org/wg/ccamp/minutes?item=3Dminutes-91-ccamp.html</a>)
 and, assuming the power was removed from the list of managed parameters, t=
he WG showed good interest in working on the topic.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I see the power was not removed from the drafts and =
I was wondering what are you plans. Are you willing to keep it in it or ava=
ilable to get rid of it?
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">BR<br>
Daniele<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ti=
mes New Roman , serif&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;"><br>
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