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From: Longhao <longhao@huawei.com>
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No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

Hao

From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Daniele Ceccarelli
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 7:35 PM
To: Longhao; Yemin (Amy); Gregory Mirsky; D'Alessandro Alessandro Gerardo (=
alessandro.dalessandro@telecomitalia.it); hshah@ciena.com
Cc: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org); teas-chairs@ietf.org; TEAS WG (teas@ietf.org)
Subject: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-extens=
ion-04

Authors, Contributors, CCAMP, TEAS,

It's time to move on with the bandwidth availability drafts. As agreed with=
 the TEAS WG chairs the last call of draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-ext=
ension-04 will be run jointly by the CCAMP and the TEAS WGs. In preparation=
 for WG LC here is the IPR polling.

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above?

Please state either:
"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
or
"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see R=
FCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?
If yes to the above, please state either:

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"
or
"No, the IPR has not been disclosed"

If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropria=
te. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the=
 above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are awa=
re of any relevant IPR.

NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES.

If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or co=
ntributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which=
 encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an =
IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or =
discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please se=
e the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki=
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Thank you,
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ot;sans-serif&quot;"> CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniele Ceccarelli<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 27, 2016 7:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Longhao; Yemin (Amy); Gregory Mirsky; D'Alessandro Alessandro Ge=
rardo (alessandro.dalessandro@telecomitalia.it); hshah@ciena.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org); teas-chairs@ietf.org; TEAS WG (teas@ietf=
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<b>Subject:</b> [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Authors, Contributors, CCAMP, T=
EAS,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">It&#8217;s time to move on with=
 the bandwidth availability drafts. As agreed with the TEAS WG chairs the l=
ast call of draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-extension-04 will be run joi=
ntly by the CCAMP and the TEAS WGs. In preparation
 for WG LC here is the IPR polling.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Are you aware of any IPR that a=
pplies to draft identified above?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Please state either:<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&quot;No, I'm not aware of any =
IPR that applies to this draft&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&quot;Yes, the IPR has been dis=
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ment author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this em=
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 are aware of any relevant IPR. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YO=
U LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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l list but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of you=
r obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the I=
ETF if you are aware of IPR of others
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ion or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, pl=
ease see the RFCs listed above and
<a href=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProp=
erty">http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty<=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Daniele &amp; Fatai<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
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No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

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Subject: [Teas] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-extensi=
on-04

Authors, Contributors, CCAMP, TEAS,

It's time to move on with the bandwidth availability drafts. As agreed with=
 the TEAS WG chairs the last call of draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-ext=
ension-04 will be run jointly by the CCAMP and the TEAS WGs. In preparation=
 for WG LC here is the IPR polling.

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above?

Please state either:
"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
or
"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see R=
FCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?
If yes to the above, please state either:

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"
or
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ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniele Ceccarelli<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 27, 2016 7:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Longhao; Yemin (Amy); Gregory Mirsky; D'Alessandro Alessandro Ge=
rardo (alessandro.dalessandro@telecomitalia.it); hshah@ciena.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org); teas-chairs@ietf.org; TEAS WG (teas@ietf=
.org)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Teas] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-=
extension-04<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">It&#8217;s time to move on with=
 the bandwidth availability drafts. As agreed with the TEAS WG chairs the l=
ast call of draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-extension-04 will be run joi=
ntly by the CCAMP and the TEAS WGs. In preparation
 for WG LC here is the IPR polling.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Are you aware of any IPR that a=
pplies to draft identified above?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Please state either:<o:p></o:p>=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&quot;No, I'm not aware of any =
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or more details)?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&quot;Yes, the IPR has been dis=
closed in compliance with IETF IPR rules&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">or<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&quot;No, the IPR has not been =
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e any additional details you think appropriate. If you are listed as a docu=
ment author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this em=
ail regardless of whether or not you
 are aware of any relevant IPR. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YO=
U LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">If you are on the CCAMP WG emai=
l list but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of you=
r obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the I=
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ion or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, pl=
ease see the RFCs listed above and
<a href=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProp=
erty">http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty<=
/a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Daniele &amp; Fatai<o:p></o:p><=
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I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this drat.

                Regards,
                                Greg

From: Longhao [mailto:longhao@huawei.com]
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 11:52 PM
To: Daniele Ceccarelli; Yemin (Amy); Gregory Mirsky; D'Alessandro Alessandr=
o Gerardo (alessandro.dalessandro@telecomitalia.it); hshah@ciena.com
Cc: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org); teas-chairs@ietf.org; TEAS WG (teas@ietf.org)
Subject: RE: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-ex=
tension-04

No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

Hao

From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Daniele Ceccarelli
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 7:35 PM
To: Longhao; Yemin (Amy); Gregory Mirsky; D'Alessandro Alessandro Gerardo (=
alessandro.dalessandro@telecomitalia.it<mailto:alessandro.dalessandro@telec=
omitalia.it>); hshah@ciena.com<mailto:hshah@ciena.com>
Cc: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org<mailto:ccamp@ietf.org>); teas-chairs@ietf.org<mai=
lto:teas-chairs@ietf.org>; TEAS WG (teas@ietf.org<mailto:teas@ietf.org>)
Subject: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-extens=
ion-04

Authors, Contributors, CCAMP, TEAS,

It's time to move on with the bandwidth availability drafts. As agreed with=
 the TEAS WG chairs the last call of draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-ext=
ension-04 will be run jointly by the CCAMP and the TEAS WGs. In preparation=
 for WG LC here is the IPR polling.

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above?

Please state either:
"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
or
"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see R=
FCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?
If yes to the above, please state either:

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"
or
"No, the IPR has not been disclosed"

If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropria=
te. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the=
 above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are awa=
re of any relevant IPR.

NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES.

If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or co=
ntributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which=
 encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an =
IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or =
discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please se=
e the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki=
/IntellectualProperty.

Thank you,
Daniele & Fatai


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">I&#8217;m not aware of=
 any IPR that applies to this drat.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Regard=
s,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; Greg<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Longhao =
[mailto:longhao@huawei.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 02, 2016 11:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Daniele Ceccarelli; Yemin (Amy); Gregory Mirsky; D'Alessandro Al=
essandro Gerardo (alessandro.dalessandro@telecomitalia.it); hshah@ciena.com=
<br>
<b>Cc:</b> CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org); teas-chairs@ietf.org; TEAS WG (teas@ietf=
.org)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availabi=
lity-extension-04<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-fa=
reast-language:ZH-CN">No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this dra=
ft.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-fa=
reast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-fa=
reast-language:ZH-CN">Hao<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-fa=
reast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">From:</spa=
n></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"> CCAMP [<a href=3D"mailto:ccam=
p-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniele Ceccarelli<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 27, 2016 7:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Longhao; Yemin (Amy); Gregory Mirsky; D'Alessandro Alessandro Ge=
rardo (<a href=3D"mailto:alessandro.dalessandro@telecomitalia.it">alessandr=
o.dalessandro@telecomitalia.it</a>);
<a href=3D"mailto:hshah@ciena.com">hshah@ciena.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a>); <a=
 href=3D"mailto:teas-chairs@ietf.org">
teas-chairs@ietf.org</a>; TEAS WG (<a href=3D"mailto:teas@ietf.org">teas@ie=
tf.org</a>)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability=
-extension-04<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Authors, =
Contributors, CCAMP, TEAS,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">It&#8217;=
s time to move on with the bandwidth availability drafts. As agreed with th=
e TEAS WG chairs the last call of draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-extens=
ion-04 will be run jointly by the CCAMP and
 the TEAS WGs. In preparation for WG LC here is the IPR polling.<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Are you a=
ware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above?<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Please st=
ate either:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">&quot;No,=
 I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft&quot;<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">or<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">&quot;Yes=
, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">If so, ha=
s this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979,=
 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">If yes to=
 the above, please state either:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">&quot;Yes=
, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules&quot;<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">or<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">&quot;No,=
 the IPR has not been disclosed&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">If you an=
swer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. If yo=
u are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by=
 responding to this email regardless
 of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. <o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">NOTE: THI=
S APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES.<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">If you ar=
e on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor=
, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourag=
es you to notify the IETF if you are
 aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from partici=
pating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. F=
or more information, please see the RFCs listed above and
<a href=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProp=
erty">http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty<=
/a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Thank you=
,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Daniele &=
amp; Fatai<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p>
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I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

Himanshu using iPad (so excuse the auto-corrects...)
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No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

BR,
Amy
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Subject: [Teas] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-extensi=
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Authors, Contributors, CCAMP, TEAS,

It=92s time to move on with the bandwidth availability drafts. As agreed wi=
th the TEAS WG chairs the last call of draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-e=
xtension-04 will be run jointly by the CCAMP and the TEAS WGs. In preparati=
on for WG LC here is the IPR polling.

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above?

Please state either:
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or
"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

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I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.
Best regards,
Alessandro

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Da: Gregory Mirsky [mailto:gregory.mirsky@ericsson.com]
Inviato: marted=EC 3 maggio 2016 08:57
A: Longhao; Daniele Ceccarelli; Yemin (Amy); D'Alessandro Alessandro Gerard=
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Oggetto: RE: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-ex=
tension-04

I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this drat.

                Regards,
                                Greg

From: Longhao [mailto:longhao@huawei.com]
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To: Daniele Ceccarelli; Yemin (Amy); Gregory Mirsky; D'Alessandro Alessandr=
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Subject: RE: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-ex=
tension-04

No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

Hao

From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Daniele Ceccarelli
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Subject: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-extens=
ion-04

Authors, Contributors, CCAMP, TEAS,

It's time to move on with the bandwidth availability drafts. As agreed with=
 the TEAS WG chairs the last call of draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-ext=
ension-04 will be run jointly by the CCAMP and the TEAS WGs. In preparation=
 for WG LC here is the IPR polling.

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above?

Please state either:
"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
or
"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see R=
FCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?
If yes to the above, please state either:

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"
or
"No, the IPR has not been disclosed"

If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropria=
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discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please se=
e the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki=
/IntellectualProperty.

Thank you,
Daniele & Fatai

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oman&quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:navy;mso-=
ansi-language:IT;mso-no-proof:yes">Alessandro Gerardo D'Alessandro<br>
Transport Innovation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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&quot;;mso-bidi-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:navy;mso-ansi=
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</b>phone:&nbsp; &#43;39 011 228 5887<br>
mobile: &#43;39 335 766 9607<br>
fax: &#43;39 06 418 639 07<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;mso-ansi-language:IT">Da:</span></b><span lang=
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ns-serif&quot;;mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;mso-ansi=
-language:IT">
 Gregory Mirsky [mailto:gregory.mirsky@ericsson.com] <br>
<b>Inviato:</b> marted=EC 3 maggio 2016 08:57<br>
<b>A:</b> Longhao; Daniele Ceccarelli; Yemin (Amy); D'Alessandro Alessandro=
 Gerardo; hshah@ciena.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org); teas-chairs@ietf.org; TEAS WG (teas@ietf=
.org)<br>
<b>Oggetto:</b> RE: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availabi=
lity-extension-04<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-ansi=
-language:EN-US">I&#8217;m not aware of any IPR that applies to this drat.<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-ansi=
-language:EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-ansi=
-language:EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-ansi=
-language:EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Greg<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D;mso-ansi=
-language:EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-outline-level:1"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US=
" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;;mso-ansi-language:EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;=
mso-ansi-language:EN-US">
 Longhao [<a href=3D"mailto:longhao@huawei.com">mailto:longhao@huawei.com</=
a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 02, 2016 11:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Daniele Ceccarelli; Yemin (Amy); Gregory Mirsky; D'Alessandro Al=
essandro Gerardo (<a href=3D"mailto:alessandro.dalessandro@telecomitalia.it=
">alessandro.dalessandro@telecomitalia.it</a>);
<a href=3D"mailto:hshah@ciena.com">hshah@ciena.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a>); <a=
 href=3D"mailto:teas-chairs@ietf.org">
teas-chairs@ietf.org</a>; TEAS WG (<a href=3D"mailto:teas@ietf.org">teas@ie=
tf.org</a>)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availabi=
lity-extension-04<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-U=
S"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">No, I'm not aw=
are of any IPR that applies to this draft.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Hao<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></span></p>
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-outline-level:1"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US=
" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">From:</span></b>=
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quo=
t;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:ZH-C=
N">
 CCAMP [<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf=
.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniele Ceccarelli<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 27, 2016 7:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Longhao; Yemin (Amy); Gregory Mirsky; D'Alessandro Alessandro Ge=
rardo (<a href=3D"mailto:alessandro.dalessandro@telecomitalia.it">alessandr=
o.dalessandro@telecomitalia.it</a>);
<a href=3D"mailto:hshah@ciena.com">hshah@ciena.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a>); <a=
 href=3D"mailto:teas-chairs@ietf.org">
teas-chairs@ietf.org</a>; TEAS WG (<a href=3D"mailto:teas@ietf.org">teas@ie=
tf.org</a>)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability=
-extension-04<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-U=
S;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-U=
S;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Authors, Contributors, CCAMP, TEAS,<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-U=
S;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-U=
S;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">It&#8217;s time to move on with the bandwidth=
 availability drafts. As agreed with the TEAS WG chairs the last call of dr=
aft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-extension-04
 will be run jointly by the CCAMP and the TEAS WGs. In preparation for WG L=
C here is the IPR polling.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-U=
S;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-U=
S;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draf=
t identified above?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-U=
S;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-U=
S;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Please state either:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-U=
S;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">&quot;No, I'm not aware of any IPR that appli=
es to this draft&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-U=
S;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">or<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-U=
S;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">&quot;Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to t=
his draft&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-U=
S;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-U=
S;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">If so, has this IPR been disclosed in complia=
nce with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more detail=
s)?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-U=
S;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">If yes to the above, please state either:<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-U=
S;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-U=
S;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">&quot;Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in comp=
liance with IETF IPR rules&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-U=
S;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">or<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-U=
S;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">&quot;No, the IPR has not been disclosed&quot=
;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-U=
S;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-U=
S;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">If you answer no, please provide any addition=
al details you think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or=
 contributor please answer the above by
 responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any=
 relevant IPR.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-U=
S;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-U=
S;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN TH=
IS MESSAGE'S TO LINES.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-U=
S;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-U=
S;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are=
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under the IETF IPR rules which encourages
 you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contri=
bution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion =
related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs =
listed above and
<a href=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProp=
erty">http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty<=
/a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-U=
S;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-U=
S;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-U=
S;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Daniele &amp; Fatai<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-ansi-language:EN-U=
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family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Hi Jonas,<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp=
;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I reviewed=
 the draft and have the following comments on the draft:<o:p></o:p></span><=
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=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot=
;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">de=
cimal64 is used for some attributes type, such as min-rltm and max-rltm. Co=
nsidering the implementation difficulty, it=A1=AFs suggested
 to use int instead of decimal. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><span style=
=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot=
;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">co=
ding-modulation: as there are some vendor specific coding modulations, it=
=A1=AFs suggest to only include the common coding modulation, or
 change the type from enumeration to string to allow vendor specific extens=
ion<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#4F6228"><span style=
=3D"mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot=
;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">id=
, expected-far-end-id, and far-end-id-check: ID is usually included in the =
air frame, and used for far end check. Considering that
 there=A1=AFs no standard on air interface, it is totally vendor specific, =
I have some concern to include such attributes.
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#4F6228"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
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mily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><span style=
=3D"mso-list:Ignore">4.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot=
;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">re=
ference-sec: the values of reference-sec are not aligned with latest EN 302=
&nbsp;217<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><span style=
=3D"mso-list:Ignore">5.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot=
;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">If=
 I understand correctly, the draft is intended to describe a YANG model for=
 common radio link, not for a vendor specific implementation.
 Therefore it=A1=AFs suggested to remove some attributes are not supported =
in our implementation. They are target-input-power-far-end, input-power-ala=
rm-threshold , selected-min-speed, selected-max-speed,</span><span lang=3D"=
EN-US">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">mimo-status,</span><span l=
ang=3D"EN-US">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">actual-si, min-rx-frequenc=
y,</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">max-rx-frequency, duplex-t=
ype.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
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mily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><span style=
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;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Si=
milar to 6, it=A1=AFs suggested to remove the =A1=B0ericsson=A1=B1 at the b=
eginning of section 4.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Jonas Ahlberg [mailto:jonas.ahlberg@ericsson.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 21, 2016 10:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Yemin (Amy); Marko Vaupotic; ccamp@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] Microwave Radio Link YANG Data Models<o:p></o:p=
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lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> CCAMP [<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org">mail=
to:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Yemin (Amy)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> den 19 april 2016 18:18<br>
<b>To:</b> Marko Vaupotic; <a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org=
</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCAMP] Microwave Radio Link YANG Data Models<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">I'm also interested in this draft=
. Will review and provide comments later.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">BR,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Amy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10.0pt;color:black">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB</span></b><b><span lang=3D"EN=
-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;;color:black">:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">
 CCAMP [ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;colo=
r:black">=B4=FA=B1=ED</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">
<span lang=3D"EN-US">Marko Vaupotic [Marko.Vaupotic@Aviatnet.com]<br>
</span></span><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:black">=B7=A2=CB=CD=
=CA=B1=BC=E4</span></b><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">:</span></=
b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">
 2016</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:black">=C4=EA</span><span=
 lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&q=
uot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">4</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;c=
olor:black">=D4=C2</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">19</span><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:black">=C8=D5</span><span lang=3D"EN-US=
" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
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 4:23<br>
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span></b><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">:</span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;s=
ans-serif&quot;;color:black">
<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a><br>
</span><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:black">=D6=F7=CC=E2</span><=
/b><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Taho=
ma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-U=
S" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;;color:black">
 Re: [CCAMP] Microwave Radio Link YANG Data Models</span><span lang=3D"EN-U=
S" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;color=
:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&q=
uot;serif&quot;;color:black">Hi Jonas<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&q=
uot;serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&q=
uot;serif&quot;;color:black">Great to see&nbsp;a push towards standardizing=
 data model for managing microwave&nbsp;link. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&q=
uot;serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&q=
uot;serif&quot;;color:black">I had a look at your yang file and have some p=
roposals (please also find it in attached document):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&q=
uot;serif&quot;;color:black">* Changed enums to identities (so that they ca=
n easily be augmented by vendor specific yang files). (The example shows co=
uple of them but more can be done - like modes of operation)<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&q=
uot;serif&quot;;color:black">* Group G.826 parameters so that they are avai=
lable for =A1=B0carrier-ethernet=A1=B1 as well as =A1=B0radio-link-terminal=
=A1=B1 type of interfaces - as they are needed on both type of interfaces. =
Although
 for the final&nbsp;model I strongly suggest that we remove this from the s=
tandard yang (and keep it as vendor specific) as most of the required G.826=
 stuff is missing in this model &nbsp;<br>
*&nbsp;I also propose that the =A1=B0choice=A1=B1 statement shall be avoide=
d if possible (and rather use the =A1=B0when=A1=B1&nbsp; =A8C in the attach=
ed example this was done for coding-modulation). The rationale behind this =
is that nodes under choice do not appear in the actual data instances(or
 schema path) =A8C they are just used for validation so that only one set o=
f data appears.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&q=
uot;serif&quot;;color:black"><br>
Regards<br>
<br>
Marko Vaupotic<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&q=
uot;serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&q=
uot;serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&q=
uot;serif&quot;;color:black">----------------------------------------------=
---------------------------------------------------------------------------=
---------<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&q=
uot;serif&quot;;color:black">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&q=
uot;serif&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&q=
uot;serif&quot;;color:black">At IETF 95 on Monday April 4<sup>th</sup>, 14:=
50, there will be a presentation about a Microwave Radio Link Yang Model.<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&q=
uot;serif&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&q=
uot;serif&quot;;color:black">The draft was unfortunately not properly uploa=
ded in due time and there is therefore no link to the document in the CCAMP=
 Agenda For IETF 95.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&q=
uot;serif&quot;;color:black">I=A1=AFve instead used the CCAMP mailing list =
to reach out with the draft to all of you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&q=
uot;serif&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&q=
uot;serif&quot;;color:black">The purpose of the draft is to provide a (star=
ting point for a) standardized YANG model for configuration, status and sta=
tistics for the radio link interface in a microwave node.<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&q=
uot;serif&quot;;color:black">There is a similar activity to standardize a m=
odel for microwave in ONF, but the major differences are:<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-ma=
rgin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;">We believe that there are clear benefits to augment the YANG =
Model for Interface Management
<a href=3D"http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7223.txt" target=3D"_blank">[RF=
C 7223]</a> and thereby use the same structure for radio&nbsp; link as for =
most other interfaces in microwave node
<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-mar=
gin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;">Our intention is to cover a selected set of key parameters wh=
ich we believe are enough for managing the core parts of a radio link and l=
eave out the product/implementation specific parameters.
 If required, they can always be added as a vendor specific model augmentin=
g the standardized radio link model.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&q=
uot;serif&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&q=
uot;serif&quot;;color:black">I will share more info in my presentation at I=
ETF 95.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&q=
uot;serif&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&q=
uot;serif&quot;;color:black">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&q=
uot;serif&quot;;color:black">Jonas Ahlberg
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&q=
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Isocore's 2016 Conference, the 19th annual event on new networking 
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Washington, DC area.

For additional information please view http://www.isocore.com/2016/cfp.htm

The main focus of the conference will be on
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">A new version of the Micr=
owave Radio Link YANG Data Model has now been submitted with changes based =
on your feedback.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Amy and Marko are now co-=
authors. That=A1=AFs great!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">The following changes are=
 made in the -01 revision.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;col=
or:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">=A1=A4<span style=3D"font:7.0pt=
 &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">rlt: tx-admin-sta=
tus - has been added to allow for disabling of the transmitter even if the =
complete radio-link-terminal interface is enabled.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;col=
or:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">=A1=A4<span style=3D"font:7.0pt=
 &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">ct: channel-separ=
ation - type has been changed from enum to decimal 64 to allow for vendor s=
pecific values<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;col=
or:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">=A1=A4<span style=3D"font:7.0pt=
 &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">G.826 parameters =
(ES, SES, UAS, etc) are defined in a grouping and now also supported for bo=
th carrier-termination and radio-link-terminal. (See also
 topic 4 below)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;col=
or:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">=A1=A4<span style=3D"font:7.0pt=
 &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Presence statemen=
t has been removed from xpic-pairs, mimo-pairs and radio-link-protection-pa=
irs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;col=
or:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">=A1=A4<span style=3D"font:7.0pt=
 &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">if-feature has be=
en introduced for XPIC and MIMO functionality<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;col=
or:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">=A1=A4<span style=3D"font:7.0pt=
 &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">actual-wait-to-re=
store =A8C has been added and shows the actual time to wait before switchin=
g back to the preferred Tx in Auto &amp; Revertive mode.<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;col=
or:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">=A1=A4<span style=3D"font:7.0pt=
 &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Identityref inclu=
ded for coding-modulation, spectrum-efficiency-class and radio-link-termina=
l:mode instead of enums. Allows for vendor specific extensions.<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;col=
or:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">=A1=A4<span style=3D"font:7.0pt=
 &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Choice statement =
replaced by when statement for power mode and coding &amp; modulation mode.=
 The associated containers have also been removed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;col=
or:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">=A1=A4<span style=3D"font:7.0pt=
 &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">A new type has be=
en defined for all power parameters. Decimal 64, fraction-digits 1. (See al=
so topic 2 below)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo8">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;col=
or:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">=A1=A4<span style=3D"font:7.0pt=
 &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Removed reference=
s to Ericsson in the model.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">The topics under discussi=
on are:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo9">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ign=
ore">1.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">There are current=
ly a number of parameters included in the model that perhaps should be cons=
idered as vendor specific.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo9">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ign=
ore">a.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">min-rx-frequency,=
 max-rx-frequency, duplex-type<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo9">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ign=
ore">b.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">selected-min-spee=
d, selected-max-speed (derived from selected coding-modulation)<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo9">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ign=
ore">c.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">mimo-status, actu=
al-si =A8C They are included but are only supported if if-feature mimo is t=
rue<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo9">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ign=
ore">d.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">target-input-powe=
r-far-end, input-power-alarm-threshold<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo9">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ign=
ore">e.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">id, expected-far-=
end-id, and far-end-id-check<br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">This is an additional id used to ensure t=
hat the radio link terminal locks into the correct radio link terminal at f=
ar end. In some cases, with high frequency reuse and tower
 installations with many radio links there is otherwise a risk that a radio=
 link terminal locks into the wrong far end having the same frequency &amp;=
 carrier id.<br>
Is it required? Can it be solved in other ways? Vendor specific? <o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo9">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ign=
ore">2.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Does power really=
 need to specified with one decimal or could it be enough with integer valu=
es. It could perhaps simplify the implementation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo9">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ign=
ore">3.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">What is a suitabl=
e default value for revertive-wait-to-restore, the time to wait before swit=
ching back to the preferred Tx in Auto &amp; Revertive mode.
 Default is currently 0 seconds.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo9">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ign=
ore">4.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Support for histo=
rical performance data (typically interval counters, 15 min and 24 hours)? =
Or is sftp of XML-files as the case is for many systems
 today enough?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
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<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ign=
ore">5.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Support for fault=
 management? Use-cases?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
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<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ign=
ore">6.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Support for synch=
ronization? Use-cases?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#77933C;mso-style-textfill-fill-co=
lor:#77933C;mso-style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">See also comments in gree=
n to Amy=A1=AFs feedback below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Regards<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">JonasA<o:p></o:p></span><=
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libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Yemin (A=
my) [mailto:amy.yemin@huawei.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> den 5 maj 2016 11:58<br>
<b>To:</b> Jonas Ahlberg; Marko Vaupotic; ccamp@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] Microwave Radio Link YANG Data Models<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Hi Jonas,<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
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libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I reviewed the draft and =
have the following comments on the draft:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ign=
ore">1.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">decimal64 is used=
 for some attributes type, such as min-rltm and max-rltm. Considering the i=
mplementation difficulty, it=A1=AFs suggested to use int instead
 of decimal. </span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calib=
ri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#77933C;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#77933C;mso-=
style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">See open topic 2 above.</span><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;=
;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ign=
ore">2.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">coding-modulation=
: as there are some vendor specific coding modulations, it=A1=AFs suggest t=
o only include the common coding modulation, or change the
 type from enumeration to string to allow vendor specific extension</span><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-s=
erif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#77933C;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#77933C;mso-=
style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">Changed to identityref to allow for vendo=
r specific extensions.</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#4F6228"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ign=
ore">3.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">id, expected-far-=
end-id, and far-end-id-check: ID is usually included in the air frame, and =
used for far end check. Considering that there=A1=AFs no standard
 on air interface, it is totally vendor specific, I have some concern to in=
clude such attributes.
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#77933C;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#77933C;mso-=
style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">See open topic 1.e above.</span><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;;color:#4F6228"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ign=
ore">4.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">reference-sec: th=
e values of reference-sec are not aligned with latest EN 302</span><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&qu=
ot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family=
:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">217</span><span =
style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&=
quot;;color:#1F497D"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#77933C;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#77933C;mso-=
style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">It should be. Can you please clarify.</sp=
an><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ign=
ore">5.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">If I understand c=
orrectly, the draft is intended to describe a YANG model for common radio l=
ink, not for a vendor specific implementation. Therefore
 it=A1=AFs suggested to remove some attributes are not supported in our imp=
lementation. They are target-input-power-far-end, input-power-alarm-thresho=
ld , selected-min-speed, selected-max-speed,</span>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">mimo-status,</span>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">actual-si, min-rx-frequency,</span>
<span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">max-rx-frequency, duplex-type.</span><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;=
;color:#1F497D"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#77933C;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#77933C;mso-=
style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">See open topic 1 above.</span><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;=
;color:#1F497D">
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
bri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ign=
ore">6.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Similar to 6, it=
=A1=AFs suggested to remove the =A1=B0ericsson=A1=B1 at the beginning of se=
ction 4.</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#77933C;mso-style-textfill-fill-color:#77933C;mso-=
style-textfill-fill-alpha:100.0%">Done!</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">BR,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Amy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Jonas Ah=
lberg [<a href=3D"mailto:jonas.ahlberg@ericsson.com">mailto:jonas.ahlberg@e=
ricsson.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 21, 2016 10:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Yemin (Amy); Marko Vaupotic; <a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">c=
camp@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] Microwave Radio Link YANG Data Models<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Hi Amy,<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Thank you for the support=
. Your input is important.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Regards<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Jonas Ahlberg<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> CCAMP [<=
a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Yemin (Amy)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> den 19 april 2016 18:18<br>
<b>To:</b> Marko Vaupotic; <a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org=
</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCAMP] Microwave Radio Link YANG Data Models<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;;color:black">I'm also interested in this draft. Will review a=
nd provide comments later.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;;color:black">BR,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;;color:black">Amy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span lang=3D"ZH-C=
N" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:black">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB</span></b><b><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;;color:black">:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">
 CCAMP [ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] </span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;color:black">=B4=FA=B1=ED</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"> Marko V=
aupotic [Marko.Vaupotic@Aviatnet.com]<br>
</span><b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:black">=B7=
=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4</span></b><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">:</span></b><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;;color:black"> 2016</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;color:black">=C4=EA</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">4</span><span lang=3D=
"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:black">=D4=C2</span><span style=3D"=
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;colo=
r:black">19</span><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:blac=
k">=C8=D5</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&qu=
ot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">
 4:23<br>
</span><b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:black">=CA=
=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB</span></b><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">:</span></b><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;=
;color:black">
<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a><br>
</span><b><span lang=3D"ZH-CN" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:black">=D6=
=F7=CC=E2</span></b><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ta=
homa&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">:</span></b><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color=
:black"> Re: [CCAMP]
 Microwave Radio Link YANG Data Models</span><span style=3D"font-family:&qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
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<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">Hi Jonas<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">Great to see&nbsp;a push towards standardizing data model for=
 managing microwave&nbsp;link. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">I had a look at your yang file and have some proposals (pleas=
e also find it in attached document):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">* Changed enums to identities (so that they can easily be aug=
mented by vendor specific yang files). (The example shows couple of them bu=
t more can be done - like modes of operation)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">* Group G.826 parameters so that they are available for =A1=
=B0carrier-ethernet=A1=B1 as well as =A1=B0radio-link-terminal=A1=B1 type o=
f interfaces - as they are needed on both type of interfaces. Although for =
the
 final&nbsp;model I strongly suggest that we remove this from the standard =
yang (and keep it as vendor specific) as most of the required G.826 stuff i=
s missing in this model &nbsp;<br>
*&nbsp;I also propose that the =A1=B0choice=A1=B1 statement shall be avoide=
d if possible (and rather use the =A1=B0when=A1=B1&nbsp; =A8C in the attach=
ed example this was done for coding-modulation). The rationale behind this =
is that nodes under choice do not appear in the actual data instances(or
 schema path) =A8C they are just used for validation so that only one set o=
f data appears.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black"><br>
Regards<br>
<br>
Marko Vaupotic<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">-------------------------------------------------------------=
---------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">At IETF 95 on Monday April 4<sup>th</sup>, 14:50, there will =
be a presentation about a Microwave Radio Link Yang Model.<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">The draft was unfortunately not properly uploaded in due time=
 and there is therefore no link to the document in the CCAMP Agenda For IET=
F 95.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">I=A1=AFve instead used the CCAMP mailing list to reach out wi=
th the draft to all of you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">The purpose of the draft is to provide a (starting point for =
a) standardized YANG model for configuration, status and statistics for the=
 radio link interface in a microwave node.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">There is a similar activity to standardize a model for microw=
ave in ONF, but the major differences are:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-ma=
rgin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo5">
<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">W=
e believe that there are clear benefits to augment the YANG Model for Inter=
face Management
<a href=3D"http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7223.txt" target=3D"_blank">[RF=
C 7223]</a> and thereby use the same structure for radio&nbsp; link as for =
most other interfaces in microwave node
<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-mar=
gin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo5">
<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">O=
ur intention is to cover a selected set of key parameters which we believe =
are enough for managing the core parts of a radio link and leave out the pr=
oduct/implementation specific parameters. If required,
 they can always be added as a vendor specific model augmenting the standar=
dized radio link model.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">I will share more info in my presentation at IETF 95.<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
;color:black">Jonas Ahlberg <o:p>
</o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;=
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CCAMP, TEAS,

This starts a two weeks joint working group last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-o=
spf-availability-extension-04
The last call end on Wednesday May 26th. Please send your comments to both =
the CCAMP and TEAS mailing lists.

All the IPR declarations from authors and contributors have been collected =
and can be found in the history of the document: https://datatracker.ietf.o=
rg/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-extension/history/
Please note that no IPR was disclosed against this draft.

As usual this is also a call for shepherd. If anyone is willing to be the s=
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Thanks

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Hi all,

together with Deborah we decided to build a design team for Radio Links YAN=
G modeling.
If you're interested to be part of the team please let the chairs know priv=
ately.

The design team will be asked to present a first draft at the next IETF mee=
ting in Berlin and will virtually meet on a weekly basis.
The calls will be publicly announced on the mailing list and anyone will be=
 allowed to participate.

Please let us have your candidacies as soon as possible.

Thanks
Daniele & Fatai

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Ciao Daniele,

I'd be interested.

Thanks!

Regards,
Jeff

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> The calls will be publicly announced on the mailing list and anyone will b=
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> =20
> Please let us have your candidacies as soon as possible.
> =20
> Thanks
> Daniele & Fatai
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The design team will be asked to present a first draf=
t at the next IETF meeting in Berlin and will virtually meet on a weekly bas=
is.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The calls will be publicly announced on the mailing l=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Please let us have your candidacies as soon as possib=
le.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Daniele &amp; Fatai<o:p></o:p></p>
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Hi,

I've reviewed this draft, and have a few comments:

-       The document is Informational, I don't think we can say it "Updates=
" RFC7139. Remove this.
-       In the Abstract, remove "updates RFC 7139" to say "This document de=
fines new signal types for these additional containers".
-       Even though the document shepherd write-up has the rationale on why=
 this is Informational, I think we need a couple of sentences in the draft =
itself. I suggest we add to the end of the Introduction:
   "These containers are non-standard data plane frame formats (not defined=
 in ITU-T Recommendations). They are among some of the intra-domain approac=
hes used in networks for transport of 10GBASE-R signals in optical transpor=
t networks. As a Supplement, [G.Sup43], does not guarantee interoperability=
 in the data plane for these containers."

Thanks,
Deborah



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<div>Hi,</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I&#8217;ve reviewed this draft, and have a few comments:</div>
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<li>The document is Informational, I don&#8217;t think we can say it &#8220=
;Updates&#8221; RFC7139. Remove this.</li><li>In the Abstract, remove &#822=
0;updates RFC 7139&#8221; to say &#8220;This document defines new signal ty=
pes for these additional containers&#8221;.</li><li>Even though the documen=
t shepherd write-up has the rationale on why this is Informational, I think=
 we need a couple of sentences in the draft itself. I suggest we add to the=
 end of the Introduction:</li></ul>
<div style=3D"padding-left:18pt;">&#8220;These containers are non-standard =
data plane frame formats (not defined in ITU-T Recommendations). They are a=
mong some of the intra-domain approaches used in networks for transport of =
10GBASE-R signals in optical transport networks.
As a Supplement, [G.Sup43], does not guarantee interoperability in the data=
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<div>Thanks,</div>
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Thanks, Deborah. I'll get that done.

Cheers

Matt

From: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A [mailto:db3546@att.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:51 PM
To: draft-ietf-ccamp-additional-signal-type-g709v3@ietf.org
Cc: ccamp-chairs@ietf.org; ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: AD review: draft-ietf-ccamp-additional-signal-type-g709v3-03

Hi,

I've reviewed this draft, and have a few comments:

*        The document is Informational, I don't think we can say it "Update=
s" RFC7139. Remove this.
*        In the Abstract, remove "updates RFC 7139" to say "This document d=
efines new signal types for these additional containers".
*        Even though the document shepherd write-up has the rationale on wh=
y this is Informational, I think we need a couple of sentences in the draft=
 itself. I suggest we add to the end of the Introduction:
"These containers are non-standard data plane frame formats (not defined in=
 ITU-T Recommendations). They are among some of the intra-domain approaches=
 used in networks for transport of 10GBASE-R signals in optical transport n=
etworks. As a Supplement, [G.Sup43], does not guarantee interoperability in=
 the data plane for these containers."

Thanks,
Deborah



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3546@att.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> draft-ietf-ccamp-additional-signal-type-g709v3@ietf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ccamp-chairs@ietf.org; ccamp@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> AD review: draft-ietf-ccamp-additional-signal-type-g709v3-0=
3<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">I&#8217;ve reviewed this draft, and have a few comm=
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&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">The document is Informational, I don&#8217;=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
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of the intra-domain approaches used in networks for
 transport of 10GBASE-R signals in optical transport networks. As a Supplem=
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This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane of the IETF.

        Title           : Resource ReserVation Protocol-Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) Extension for Additional Signal Types in G.709 OTN
        Authors         : Zafar Ali
                          Antonello Bonfanti
                          Matt Hartley
                          Fatai Zhang
	Filename        : draft-ietf-ccamp-additional-signal-type-g709v3-04.txt
	Pages           : 4
	Date            : 2016-05-25

Abstract:
RFC 4328 and RFC 7139 provide Resource ReserVation Protocol-Traffic
Engineering (RSVP-TE) signaling extensions to control the full set
of Optical Transport Network (OTN) features. However, these
specifications do not cover the additional Optical channel Data
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Deborah,

Markups done, and v4 posted.

Cheers

Matt

From: BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A [mailto:db3546@att.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:51 PM
To: draft-ietf-ccamp-additional-signal-type-g709v3@ietf.org
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Subject: AD review: draft-ietf-ccamp-additional-signal-type-g709v3-03

Hi,

I've reviewed this draft, and have a few comments:

*        The document is Informational, I don't think we can say it "Update=
s" RFC7139. Remove this.
*        In the Abstract, remove "updates RFC 7139" to say "This document d=
efines new signal types for these additional containers".
*        Even though the document shepherd write-up has the rationale on wh=
y this is Informational, I think we need a couple of sentences in the draft=
 itself. I suggest we add to the end of the Introduction:
"These containers are non-standard data plane frame formats (not defined in=
 ITU-T Recommendations). They are among some of the intra-domain approaches=
 used in networks for transport of 10GBASE-R signals in optical transport n=
etworks. As a Supplement, [G.Sup43], does not guarantee interoperability in=
 the data plane for these containers."

Thanks,
Deborah



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okman Old Style&quot;,serif;color:#9E3400"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Bo=
okman Old Style&quot;,serif;color:#9E3400">Markups done, and v4 posted.<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Bo=
okman Old Style&quot;,serif;color:#9E3400"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Bo=
okman Old Style&quot;,serif;color:#9E3400">Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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okman Old Style&quot;,serif;color:#9E3400"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A [mailto:db=
3546@att.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> draft-ietf-ccamp-additional-signal-type-g709v3@ietf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ccamp-chairs@ietf.org; ccamp@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> AD review: draft-ietf-ccamp-additional-signal-type-g709v3-0=
3<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">I&#8217;ve reviewed this draft, and have a few comm=
ents:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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libri&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">The document is Informational, I don&#8217;=
t think we can say it &#8220;Updates&#8221; RFC7139. Remove this.<o:p></o:p=
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&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">In the Abstract, remove &#8220;updates RFC =
7139&#8221; to say &#8220;This document defines new signal types for these =
additional containers&#8221;.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
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has the rationale on why this is Informational, I think we need a couple of=
 sentences in the draft itself. I suggest we
 add to the end of the Introduction:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">&#8220;These containers are non-standard data plane=
 frame formats (not defined in ITU-T Recommendations). They are among some =
of the intra-domain approaches used in networks for
 transport of 10GBASE-R signals in optical transport networks. As a Supplem=
ent, [G.Sup43], does not guarantee interoperability in the data plane for t=
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Hi Matt,
Great - Thanks- I'll start the IETF Last Call.
Deborah


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Subject: RE: AD review: draft-ietf-ccamp-additional-signal-type-g709v3-03

Deborah,

Markups done, and v4 posted.

Cheers

Matt

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Subject: AD review: draft-ietf-ccamp-additional-signal-type-g709v3-03

Hi,

I've reviewed this draft, and have a few comments:

*         The document is Informational, I don't think we can say it "Updat=
es" RFC7139. Remove this.
*         In the Abstract, remove "updates RFC 7139" to say "This document =
defines new signal types for these additional containers".
*         Even though the document shepherd write-up has the rationale on w=
hy this is Informational, I think we need a couple of sentences in the draf=
t itself. I suggest we add to the end of the Introduction:
"These containers are non-standard data plane frame formats (not defined in=
 ITU-T Recommendations). They are among some of the intra-domain approaches=
 used in networks for transport of 10GBASE-R signals in optical transport n=
etworks. As a Supplement, [G.Sup43], does not guarantee interoperability in=
 the data plane for these containers."

Thanks,
Deborah



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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hi Matt,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Great &#8211; Thanks- I&#8217;ll star=
t the IETF Last Call.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Deborah<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> Matt Hartley (mhartley) [mailt=
o:mhartley@cisco.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 25, 2016 4:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A &lt;db3546@att.com&gt;; draft-ietf-ccamp-add=
itional-signal-type-g709v3@ietf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ccamp-chairs@ietf.org; ccamp@ietf.org; Matt Hartley (mhartley) &=
lt;mhartley@cisco.com&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: AD review: draft-ietf-ccamp-additional-signal-type-g709=
v3-03<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Bo=
okman Old Style&quot;,serif;color:#9E3400">Deborah,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Bo=
okman Old Style&quot;,serif;color:#9E3400"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Bo=
okman Old Style&quot;,serif;color:#9E3400">Markups done, and v4 posted.<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Bo=
okman Old Style&quot;,serif;color:#9E3400"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Bo=
okman Old Style&quot;,serif;color:#9E3400">Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Bo=
okman Old Style&quot;,serif;color:#9E3400"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Bo=
okman Old Style&quot;,serif;color:#9E3400">Matt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Bo=
okman Old Style&quot;,serif;color:#9E3400"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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4.0pt">
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A [<a href=
=3D"mailto:db3546@att.com">mailto:db3546@att.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-ccamp-additional-signal-type-g709v3=
@ietf.org">
draft-ietf-ccamp-additional-signal-type-g709v3@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-chairs@ietf.org">ccamp-chairs@ietf.org</=
a>; <a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">
ccamp@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> AD review: draft-ietf-ccamp-additional-signal-type-g709v3-0=
3<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">I&#8217;ve reviewed this draft, and have a few comm=
ents:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto;margin-left:0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><s=
pan style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">&middot;<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times=
 New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">The document is Informational, I don&#8217;=
t think we can say it &#8220;Updates&#8221; RFC7139. Remove this.<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto;margin-left:0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><s=
pan style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">&middot;<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times=
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">In the Abstract, remove &#8220;updates RFC =
7139&#8221; to say &#8220;This document defines new signal types for these =
additional containers&#8221;.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto;margin-left:0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol"><s=
pan style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">&middot;<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times=
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Even though the document shepherd write-up =
has the rationale on why this is Informational, I think we need a couple of=
 sentences in the draft itself. I suggest we
 add to the end of the Introduction:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">&#8220;These containers are non-standard data plane=
 frame formats (not defined in ITU-T Recommendations). They are among some =
of the intra-domain approaches used in networks for
 transport of 10GBASE-R signals in optical transport networks. As a Supplem=
ent, [G.Sup43], does not guarantee interoperability in the data plane for t=
hese containers.&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif">Deborah<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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libri&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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The IESG has received a request from the Common Control and Measurement
Plane WG (ccamp) to consider the following document:
- 'Resource ReserVation Protocol-Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) Extension
   for Additional Signal Types in G.709 OTN'
  <draft-ietf-ccamp-additional-signal-type-g709v3-04.txt> as
Informational RFC

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Abstract


RFC 4328 and RFC 7139 provide Resource ReserVation Protocol-Traffic
Engineering (RSVP-TE) signaling extensions to control the full set
of Optical Transport Network (OTN) features. However, these
specifications do not cover the additional Optical channel Data
Unit (ODU) containers defined in G.Sup43 (ODU1e, ODU3e1 and
ODU3e2). This document defines new signal types for these
additional containers.




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Authors,

I did my review of the document. Please find below some comments:


-          Section 1: please put [G.827, F.1703, P.530] in a reference form=
at [G.827] [F.1703][P.530].

-          Section 1: Could you elaborate this sentence? "The availability =
is a time scale that the requested bandwidth is ensured." The meaning is no=
t fully clear to me.

-          Section 1: [ASTE] curious acronym choice! Is it correct to have =
this as a normative reference?

-          Section 1: [RFC4202]: I would say that this is a normative refer=
ence, it is reported as informative.

-          Section 1: "   If there is a hop that cannot support the Availab=
ility sub-TLV, the Availability sub-TLV should be ignored." This is normati=
ve text. It should be written in capital letters and I'd suggest to move it=
 from the intro to section 3. Going on with the reading I see that it is pr=
operly state in section 3.2, hence I suggest just dropping the sentence in =
section 1.

-          Section 1: "...is defined to support in routing signaling." Ther=
e must be something missing here. What about just "...is defined."?

-          Section 2: s/should contain/should include

-          Section 2: I suggest rephrasing this sentence: " The list provid=
es the information that how much bandwidth a link can support for a specifi=
ed availability." What about "The list provides the mapping between the lin=
k nominal bandwidth and its availability level"?

-          Section 2: s/label switched path/Label Switched Path

-          Section 2: suggested rephrasing

OLD
  To setup a label switching path (LSP), a node may collect link
   information which is spread in OSPF TE LSA messages by network nodes
   to get know about the network topology, calculate out an LSP route
   based on the network topology and send the calculated LSP route to
   signaling to initiate a PATH/RESV message for setting up the LSP.

   Availability information is required to carry in the signaling

   message to better utilize the link bandwidth. The signaling

   extension for availability can be found in [ASTE].


NEW
The setup of a Label Switched Path requires this piece of information to be=
 flooded in the network and used by the nodes or the PCE for the path compu=
tation. The computed path can then be provisioned via the signaling protoco=
l.
Availability information also need to be carried by the signaling for a bet=
ter utilization of the link bandwidth (CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY?).
Extensions to RSVP-TE can be found in [ASTE].


-          Section 3.1 - ISCD already expanded in section 1, you can use th=
e acronym.

-          Section 3.1: "Type: TBA by IANA, suggested value is 0x01"

-          Section 3.1: "Length" you should state the units (bit? Bytes?). =
Moreover I see this is a fixed length TLV, hence I would say: "Length: A 16=
 bits field that expresses the length of the TLV in bytes"

-          Section 3.1: "Availability level": is there a discrete set of av=
ailability levels? E.g. 0.99, 0.999, 0.9999, or it can be filled with any n=
umber between O and 1? This needs to be explained a bit better.

-          LSP bandwidth at availability level: the unit is missing.

-          3.2 Why signaling process? It would rather say "Processing Proce=
dures" ?

-          Section 4: Please add a reference to the OSPF and GMPLS security=
 RFCs.

-          IANA section: Please make sure that it is state which registry n=
eeds to be updated and how.

-          References: there is a number of references that is not used in =
the document e.g. RFC 2210, RFC 3473 and so on.

-          Header: "OSPF -- Availability extension" please remove the dashe=
s. I also suggest to substitute with "Availability extensions to OSPF-TE".

-          Please also check the IdNits


Thanks
Daniele


From: Daniele Ceccarelli [mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com]
Sent: gioved=EC 12 maggio 2016 10:25
To: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) <ccamp@ietf.org>; TEAS WG (teas@ietf.org) <teas@=
ietf.org>
Cc: teas-chairs@ietf.org; ccamp-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: Joint WG last call on draft-ietf-ospf-availability-extension-04

CCAMP, TEAS,

This starts a two weeks joint working group last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-o=
spf-availability-extension-04
The last call end on Wednesday May 26th. Please send your comments to both =
the CCAMP and TEAS mailing lists.

All the IPR declarations from authors and contributors have been collected =
and can be found in the history of the document: https://datatracker.ietf.o=
rg/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-extension/history/
Please note that no IPR was disclosed against this draft.

As usual this is also a call for shepherd. If anyone is willing to be the s=
hepherd of the document, please volunteer.



Thanks

Daniele, Fatai, Lou, Pavan


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:E=
N-US">Authors,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:E=
N-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:E=
N-US">I did my review of the document. Please find below some comments:<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:E=
N-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 leve=
l1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-lan=
guage:EN-US"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">-<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US">Section 1: please put [G.827, F.1703, P.530] in a reference f=
ormat [G.827] [F.1703][P.530].<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 leve=
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ot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US">Section 1: Could you elaborate this sentence? &#8220;The avai=
lability is a time scale that the requested bandwidth is ensured.&#8221; Th=
e meaning is not fully clear to me.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 leve=
l1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-lan=
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ot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US">Section 1: [ASTE] curious acronym choice! Is it correct to ha=
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<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 leve=
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ot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US">Section 1: [RFC4202]: I would say that this is a normative re=
ference, it is reported as informative.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 leve=
l1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-lan=
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ot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US">Section 1: &#8220;&nbsp;&nbsp; If there is a hop that cannot =
support the Availability sub-TLV, the Availability sub-TLV should be ignore=
d.&#8221; This is normative text. It should be written in
 capital letters and I&#8217;d suggest to move it from the intro to section=
 3. Going on with the reading I see that it is properly state in section 3.=
2, hence I suggest just dropping the sentence in section 1.<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 leve=
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nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US">Section 1: &#8220;&#8230;is defined to support in routing sig=
naling.&#8221; There must be something missing here. What about just &#8220=
;&#8230;is defined.&#8221;?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 leve=
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nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US">Section 2: s/should contain/should include<o:p></o:p></span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 leve=
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ot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US">Section 2: I suggest rephrasing this sentence: &#8220; The li=
st provides the information that how much bandwidth a link can support for =
a specified availability.&#8221; What about &#8220;The
 list provides the mapping between the link nominal bandwidth and its avail=
ability level&#8221;?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 leve=
l1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-lan=
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nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US">Section 2: s/label switched path/Label Switched Path<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 leve=
l1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-lan=
guage:EN-US"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">-<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US">Section 2: suggested rephrasing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-lan=
guage:EN-US">OLD<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp;To setup a label sw=
itching path (LSP), a node may collect link<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; information which =
is spread in OSPF TE LSA messages by network nodes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; to get know about =
the network topology, calculate out an LSP route<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; based on the netwo=
rk topology and send the calculated LSP route to<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; signaling to initi=
ate a PATH/RESV message for setting up the LSP.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<pre><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; Availability i=
nformation is required to carry in the signaling<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; message to bet=
ter utilize the link bandwidth. The signaling<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; extension for =
availability can be found in [</span><span style=3D"color:black"><a href=3D=
"#ref-ASTE" title=3D"H."><span lang=3D"EN-US">ASTE</span></a></span><span l=
ang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">].<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-lan=
guage:EN-US">NEW<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">The setup of a Label Switched P=
ath requires this piece of information to be flooded in the network and use=
d by the nodes or the PCE for the path computation.
 The computed path can then be provisioned via the signaling protocol.<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">Availability information also n=
eed to be carried by the signaling for a better utilization of the link ban=
dwidth (CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY?).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">Extensions to RSVP-TE can be fo=
und in [ASTE].<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 leve=
l1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-lan=
guage:EN-US"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">-<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US">Section 3.1 &#8211; ISCD already expanded in section 1, you c=
an use the acronym.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 leve=
l1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-lan=
guage:EN-US"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">-<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US">Section 3.1: &#8220;Type: TBA by IANA, suggested value is 0x0=
1&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 leve=
l1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-lan=
guage:EN-US"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">-<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US">Section 3.1: &#8220;Length&#8221; you should state the units =
(bit? Bytes?). Moreover I see this is a fixed length TLV, hence I would say=
: &#8220;Length: A 16 bits field that expresses the length
 of the TLV in bytes&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 leve=
l1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-lan=
guage:EN-US"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">-<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US">Section 3.1: &#8220;Availability level&#8221;: is there a dis=
crete set of availability levels? E.g. 0.99, 0.999, 0.9999, or it can be fi=
lled with any number between O and 1? This needs
 to be explained a bit better.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 leve=
l1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-lan=
guage:EN-US"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">-<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US">LSP bandwidth at availability level: the unit is missing.<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 leve=
l1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-lan=
guage:EN-US"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">-<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US">3.2 Why signaling process? It would rather say &#8220;Process=
ing Procedures&#8221; ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 leve=
l1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-lan=
guage:EN-US"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">-<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US">Section 4: Please add a reference to the OSPF and GMPLS secur=
ity RFCs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 leve=
l1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-lan=
guage:EN-US"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">-<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US">IANA section: Please make sure that it is state which registr=
y needs to be updated and how.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 leve=
l1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-lan=
guage:EN-US"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">-<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US">References: there is a number of references that is not used =
in the document e.g. RFC 2210, RFC 3473 and so on.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 leve=
l1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-lan=
guage:EN-US"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">-<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US">Header: &#8220;OSPF -- Availability extension&#8221; please r=
emove the dashes. I also suggest to substitute with &#8220;Availability ext=
ensions to OSPF-TE&#8221;.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 leve=
l1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-lan=
guage:EN-US"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">-<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-la=
nguage:EN-US">Please also check the IdNits<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:E=
N-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:E=
N-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:E=
N-US">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:E=
N-US">Daniele<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:E=
N-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:E=
N-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"> Daniele Ceccarelli [mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> gioved=EC 12 maggio 2016 10:25<br>
<b>To:</b> CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) &lt;ccamp@ietf.org&gt;; TEAS WG (teas@iet=
f.org) &lt;teas@ietf.org&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> teas-chairs@ietf.org; ccamp-chairs@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Joint WG last call on draft-ietf-ospf-availability-extensio=
n-04<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">CCAMP, TEAS,<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">This starts a two weeks joint w=
orking group last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-extension-04<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The last call end on Wednesday =
May 26<sup>th</sup>. Please send your comments to both the CCAMP and TEAS m=
ailing lists.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">All the IPR declarations from a=
uthors and contributors have been collected and can be found in the history=
 of the document:
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availabil=
ity-extension/history/">
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-extensi=
on/history/</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Please note that no IPR was dis=
closed against this draft.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">As usual this is also a call fo=
r shepherd. If anyone is willing to be the shepherd of the document, please=
 volunteer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Daniele, Fatai, Lou, Pav=
an<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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Working groups,

The WG Last Call is now closed.

Authors, please resolve Acee's comments and mine.

Thanks,

Daniele, Fatai, Lou, Pavan




From: Daniele Ceccarelli [mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com]
Sent: gioved=EC 12 maggio 2016 10:25
To: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) <ccamp@ietf.org>; TEAS WG (teas@ietf.org) <teas@=
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Cc: teas-chairs@ietf.org; ccamp-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: Joint WG last call on draft-ietf-ospf-availability-extension-04

CCAMP, TEAS,

This starts a two weeks joint working group last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-o=
spf-availability-extension-04
The last call end on Wednesday May 26th. Please send your comments to both =
the CCAMP and TEAS mailing lists.

All the IPR declarations from authors and contributors have been collected =
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A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.

        
        RFC 7892

        Title:      IANA Allocation Procedures for the 
                    GMPLS OTN Signal Type Registry 
        Author:     Z. Ali, 
                    A. Bonfanti,
                    M. Hartley, 
                    F. Zhang
        Status:     Standards Track
        Stream:     IETF
        Date:       May 2016
        Mailbox:    zali@cisco.com, 
                    abonfant@cisco.com, 
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                    zhangfatai@huawei.com
        Pages:      4
        Characters: 7019
        Updates:    RFC 7139

        I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-signal-type-subregistry-05.txt

        URL:        https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7892

        DOI:        http://dx.doi.org/10.17487/RFC7892

IANA defined the "OTN Signal Type" subregistry of the "Generalized
Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Signaling Parameters" registry
in RFC 7139.  This document updates the "OTN Signal Type" subregistry
to allow registration via Specification Required.

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Hi Daniele,

Thanks for comments. I agree with most of them.
Please see my response to some comments inline.

BR,
Amy

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nsion-04

Authors,

I did my review of the document. Please find below some comments:


-          Section 1: please put [G.827, F.1703, P.530] in a reference form=
at [G.827] [F.1703][P.530].

-          Section 1: Could you elaborate this sentence? "The availability =
is a time scale that the requested bandwidth is ensured." The meaning is no=
t fully clear to me.

                [Amy] How about this: "The availability is a time scale, wh=
ich is a proportion of the operating time that the requested bandwidth is e=
nsured."



-          Section 1: [ASTE] curious acronym choice! Is it correct to have =
this as a normative reference?

                [Amy] The title of the referenced draft was changed for onc=
e. I will update the acronym according to the new title, how about [ETPAI]?



-          Section 1: [RFC4202]: I would say that this is a normative refer=
ence, it is reported as informative.

-          Section 1: "   If there is a hop that cannot support the Availab=
ility sub-TLV, the Availability sub-TLV should be ignored." This is normati=
ve text. It should be written in capital letters and I'd suggest to move it=
 from the intro to section 3. Going on with the reading I see that it is pr=
operly state in section 3.2, hence I suggest just dropping the sentence in =
section 1.

-          Section 1: "...is defined to support in routing signaling." Ther=
e must be something missing here. What about just "...is defined."?

-          Section 2: s/should contain/should include

-          Section 2: I suggest rephrasing this sentence: " The list provid=
es the information that how much bandwidth a link can support for a specifi=
ed availability." What about "The list provides the mapping between the lin=
k nominal bandwidth and its availability level"?

-          Section 2: s/label switched path/Label Switched Path

-          Section 2: suggested rephrasing

OLD
  To setup a label switching path (LSP), a node may collect link
   information which is spread in OSPF TE LSA messages by network nodes
   to get know about the network topology, calculate out an LSP route
   based on the network topology and send the calculated LSP route to
   signaling to initiate a PATH/RESV message for setting up the LSP.

   Availability information is required to carry in the signaling

   message to better utilize the link bandwidth. The signaling

   extension for availability can be found in [ASTE].


NEW
The setup of a Label Switched Path requires this piece of information to be=
 flooded in the network and used by the nodes or the PCE for the path compu=
tation. The computed path can then be provisioned via the signaling protoco=
l.
Availability information also need to be carried by the signaling for a bet=
ter utilization of the link bandwidth (CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY?).
Extensions to RSVP-TE can be found in [ASTE].
[Amy] How about the following text:
The setup of a Label Switched Path requires this piece of information to be=
 flooded in the network and used by the nodes or the PCE for the path compu=
tation. The computed path can then be provisioned via the signaling protoco=
l.
For links with variable discrete bandwidth, Availability information is nee=
d to be carried by the signaling for a better link bandwidth utilization.
Extensions to RSVP-TE can be found in [ETPAI].


-          Section 3.1 - ISCD already expanded in section 1, you can use th=
e acronym.

-          Section 3.1: "Type: TBA by IANA, suggested value is 0x01"

-          Section 3.1: "Length" you should state the units (bit? Bytes?). =
Moreover I see this is a fixed length TLV, hence I would say: "Length: A 16=
 bits field that expresses the length of the TLV in bytes"

-          Section 3.1: "Availability level": is there a discrete set of av=
ailability levels? E.g. 0.99, 0.999, 0.9999, or it can be filled with any n=
umber between O and 1? This needs to be explained a bit better.

[Amy] There's no concrete discrete set of  availability levels. 0.99, 0.999=
, 0.9999 is the most common usage, 0.995 may also be used. However numbers =
such as 0.996/0.997 are rarely used.

I can add one sentence to explain more: "The Availability level is usually =
expressed in the value of  0.99/0.999/0.9999/0.99999 ".



-          LSP bandwidth at availability level: the unit is missing.

-          3.2 Why signaling process? It would rather say "Processing Proce=
dures" ?

-          Section 4: Please add a reference to the OSPF and GMPLS security=
 RFCs.

-          IANA section: Please make sure that it is state which registry n=
eeds to be updated and how.

-          References: there is a number of references that is not used in =
the document e.g. RFC 2210, RFC 3473 and so on.

-          Header: "OSPF -- Availability extension" please remove the dashe=
s. I also suggest to substitute with "Availability extensions to OSPF-TE".

-          Please also check the IdNits


Thanks
Daniele


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Subject: Joint WG last call on draft-ietf-ospf-availability-extension-04

CCAMP, TEAS,

This starts a two weeks joint working group last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-o=
spf-availability-extension-04
The last call end on Wednesday May 26th. Please send your comments to both =
the CCAMP and TEAS mailing lists.

All the IPR declarations from authors and contributors have been collected =
and can be found in the history of the document: https://datatracker.ietf.o=
rg/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-extension/history/
Please note that no IPR was disclosed against this draft.

As usual this is also a call for shepherd. If anyone is willing to be the s=
hepherd of the document, please volunteer.



Thanks

Daniele, Fatai, Lou, Pavan


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Hi Daniele,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Thanks for comments. I agree with most of them.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Please see my response to some comments inline.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Amy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniele Ceccarelli<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 28, 2016 5:08 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Daniele Ceccarelli; CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org); TEAS WG (teas@ietf.o=
rg)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ccamp-chairs@ietf.org; teas-chairs@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Teas] Joint WG last call on draft-ietf-ospf-availabili=
ty-extension-04<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Authors,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I did my review of the document=
. Please find below some comments:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">Section 1: please put [G.827, F.1703, P.530] in=
 a reference format [G.827] [F.1703][P.530].</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">Section 1: Could you elaborate this sentence? &=
#8220;The availability is a time scale that the requested bandwidth is ensu=
red.&#8221; The meaning is not fully clear to me.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US=
"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0cm"><span lang=3D"EN-US=
" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [Amy] How about =
this: &#8220;The availability is a time scale, which is a proportion of the=
 operating time that the requested bandwidth is
 ensured.&#8221; <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0cm"><span lang=3D"EN-US=
" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">Section 1: [ASTE] curious acronym choice! Is it=
 correct to have this as a normative reference?</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0cm"><span lang=3D"EN-US=
" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [Amy] The title =
of the referenced draft was changed for once. I will update the acronym acc=
ording to the new title, how about [ETPAI]?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0cm"><span lang=3D"EN-US=
" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">Section 1: [RFC4202]: I would say that this is =
a normative reference, it is reported as informative.</span><span lang=3D"E=
N-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">Section 1: &#8220;&nbsp;&nbsp; If there is a ho=
p that cannot support the Availability sub-TLV, the Availability sub-TLV sh=
ould be ignored.&#8221; This is normative text. It should be written in cap=
ital letters and I&#8217;d suggest to move it from the intro to
 section 3. Going on with the reading I see that it is properly state in se=
ction 3.2, hence I suggest just dropping the sentence in section 1.</span><=
span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">Section 1: &#8220;&#8230;is defined to support =
in routing signaling.&#8221; There must be something missing here. What abo=
ut just &#8220;&#8230;is defined.&#8221;?</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">Section 2: s/should contain/should include</spa=
n><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">Section 2: I suggest rephrasing this sentence: =
&#8220; The list provides the information that how much bandwidth a link ca=
n support for a specified availability.&#8221; What about &#8220;The list p=
rovides the mapping between the link nominal bandwidth
 and its availability level&#8221;?</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"col=
or:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">Section 2: s/label switched path/Label Switched=
 Path</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">Section 2: suggested rephrasing<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph"><span lang=3D"EN-US">OLD<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp;To setup a label sw=
itching path (LSP), a node may collect link<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; information which =
is spread in OSPF TE LSA messages by network nodes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; to get know about =
the network topology, calculate out an LSP route<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; based on the netwo=
rk topology and send the calculated LSP route to<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; signaling to initi=
ate a PATH/RESV message for setting up the LSP.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<pre><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; Availability i=
nformation is required to carry in the signaling<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; message to bet=
ter utilize the link bandwidth. The signaling<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; extension for =
availability can be found in [</span><span lang=3D"IT" style=3D"color:black=
"><a href=3D"#ref-ASTE" title=3D"H."><span lang=3D"EN-US">ASTE</span></a></=
span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">].<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph"><span lang=3D"EN-US">NEW<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">The setup of a Label Switched P=
ath requires this piece of information to be flooded in the network and use=
d by the nodes or the PCE for the path computation.
 The computed path can then be provisioned via the signaling protocol.<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">Availability information also n=
eed to be carried by the signaling for a better utilization of the link ban=
dwidth (CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY?).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">Extensions to RSVP-TE can be fo=
und in [ASTE].<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">[Amy] How about the following text:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">The setup of a Label Switched Path requires this piece of informa=
tion to be flooded in the network and used by the nodes or the PCE for the =
path computation. The computed path can
 then be provisioned via the signaling protocol.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">For links with variable discrete bandwidth, Availability informat=
ion is need to be carried by the signaling for a better link bandwidth util=
ization.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Extensions to RSVP-TE can be found in [ETPAI].<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">Section 3.1 &#8211; ISCD already expanded in se=
ction 1, you can use the acronym.
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">Section 3.1: &#8220;Type: TBA by IANA, suggeste=
d value is 0x01&#8221;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">Section 3.1: &#8220;Length&#8221; you should st=
ate the units (bit? Bytes?). Moreover I see this is a fixed length TLV, hen=
ce I would say: &#8220;Length: A 16 bits field that expresses the length of=
 the TLV in bytes&#8221;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">Section 3.1: &#8220;Availability level&#8221;: =
is there a discrete set of availability levels? E.g. 0.99, 0.999, 0.9999, o=
r it can be filled with any number between O and 1? This needs to be explai=
ned a bit better.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0cm;text-indent:36.75pt"=
><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">[Amy] There&=
#8217;s no concrete discrete set of &nbsp;availability levels. 0.99, 0.999,=
 0.9999 is the most common usage, 0.995 may also be
 used. However numbers such as 0.996/0.997 are rarely used. <o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0cm;text-indent:36.75pt"=
><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D">I can add on=
e sentence to explain more: &#8220;The Availability level is usually expres=
sed in the value of &nbsp;0.99/0.999/0.9999/0.99999
 &#8221;.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0cm"><span lang=3D"EN-US=
" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">LSP bandwidth at availability level: the unit i=
s missing.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">3.2 Why signaling process? It would rather say =
&#8220;Processing Procedures&#8221; ?</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">Section 4: Please add a reference to the OSPF a=
nd GMPLS security RFCs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">IANA section: Please make sure that it is state=
 which registry needs to be updated and how.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">References: there is a number of references tha=
t is not used in the document e.g. RFC 2210, RFC 3473 and so on.<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">Header: &#8220;OSPF -- Availability extension&#=
8221; please remove the dashes. I also suggest to substitute with &#8220;Av=
ailability extensions to OSPF-TE&#8221;.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">Please also check the IdNits<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Daniele<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
4.0pt">
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"> Daniele Ceccarelli [<a href=3D"mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericss=
on.com">mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> gioved=EC 12 maggio 2016 10:25<br>
<b>To:</b> CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a>) &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a>&gt;; TEAS WG (<a href=
=3D"mailto:teas@ietf.org">teas@ietf.org</a>) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:teas@iet=
f.org">teas@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:teas-chairs@ietf.org">teas-chairs@ietf.org</a>=
; <a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-chairs@ietf.org">
ccamp-chairs@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Joint WG last call on draft-ietf-ospf-availability-extensio=
n-04<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"IT"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">CCAMP, TEAS,<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">This starts a two weeks joint w=
orking group last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-extension-04<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The last call end on Wednesday =
May 26<sup>th</sup>. Please send your comments to both the CCAMP and TEAS m=
ailing lists.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">All the IPR declarations from a=
uthors and contributors have been collected and can be found in the history=
 of the document:
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availabil=
ity-extension/history/">
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-extensi=
on/history/</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Please note that no IPR was dis=
closed against this draft.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">As usual this is also a call fo=
r shepherd. If anyone is willing to be the shepherd of the document, please=
 volunteer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Daniele, Fatai, Lou, Pav=
an<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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Hi Amy,

Please see my further replies in line.
When you're done with the changes please update the draft and we can procee=
d with the request for publication.

Thanks
Daniele

From: Yemin (Amy) [mailto:amy.yemin@huawei.com]
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Subject: RE: [Teas] Joint WG last call on draft-ietf-ospf-availability-exte=
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Hi Daniele,

Thanks for comments. I agree with most of them.
Please see my response to some comments inline.

BR,
Amy

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Authors,

I did my review of the document. Please find below some comments:


-          Section 1: please put [G.827, F.1703, P.530] in a reference form=
at [G.827] [F.1703][P.530].

-          Section 1: Could you elaborate this sentence? "The availability =
is a time scale that the requested bandwidth is ensured." The meaning is no=
t fully clear to me.

                [Amy] How about this: "The availability is a time scale, wh=
ich is a proportion of the operating time that the requested bandwidth is e=
nsured."

[DC] sounds good

-          Section 1: [ASTE] curious acronym choice! Is it correct to have =
this as a normative reference?

                [Amy] The title of the referenced draft was changed for onc=
e. I will update the acronym according to the new title, how about [ETPAI]?

[DC] I have nothing against one or the other, I was just curious to know ho=
w you end up with that one. Feel free to use the one you prefer.



-          Section 1: [RFC4202]: I would say that this is a normative refer=
ence, it is reported as informative.

-          Section 1: "   If there is a hop that cannot support the Availab=
ility sub-TLV, the Availability sub-TLV should be ignored." This is normati=
ve text. It should be written in capital letters and I'd suggest to move it=
 from the intro to section 3. Going on with the reading I see that it is pr=
operly state in section 3.2, hence I suggest just dropping the sentence in =
section 1.

-          Section 1: "...is defined to support in routing signaling." Ther=
e must be something missing here. What about just "...is defined."?

-          Section 2: s/should contain/should include

-          Section 2: I suggest rephrasing this sentence: " The list provid=
es the information that how much bandwidth a link can support for a specifi=
ed availability." What about "The list provides the mapping between the lin=
k nominal bandwidth and its availability level"?

-          Section 2: s/label switched path/Label Switched Path

-          Section 2: suggested rephrasing

OLD
  To setup a label switching path (LSP), a node may collect link
   information which is spread in OSPF TE LSA messages by network nodes
   to get know about the network topology, calculate out an LSP route
   based on the network topology and send the calculated LSP route to
   signaling to initiate a PATH/RESV message for setting up the LSP.

   Availability information is required to carry in the signaling

   message to better utilize the link bandwidth. The signaling

   extension for availability can be found in [ASTE].


NEW
The setup of a Label Switched Path requires this piece of information to be=
 flooded in the network and used by the nodes or the PCE for the path compu=
tation. The computed path can then be provisioned via the signaling protoco=
l.
Availability information also need to be carried by the signaling for a bet=
ter utilization of the link bandwidth (CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY?).
Extensions to RSVP-TE can be found in [ASTE].
[Amy] How about the following text:
The setup of a Label Switched Path requires this piece of information to be=
 flooded in the network and used by the nodes or the PCE for the path compu=
tation. The computed path can then be provisioned via the signaling protoco=
l.
For links with variable discrete bandwidth, Availability information is nee=
d to be carried by the signaling for a better link bandwidth utilization.
Extensions to RSVP-TE can be found in [ETPAI].
[DC] correct amendment.


-          Section 3.1 - ISCD already expanded in section 1, you can use th=
e acronym.

-          Section 3.1: "Type: TBA by IANA, suggested value is 0x01"

-          Section 3.1: "Length" you should state the units (bit? Bytes?). =
Moreover I see this is a fixed length TLV, hence I would say: "Length: A 16=
 bits field that expresses the length of the TLV in bytes"

-          Section 3.1: "Availability level": is there a discrete set of av=
ailability levels? E.g. 0.99, 0.999, 0.9999, or it can be filled with any n=
umber between O and 1? This needs to be explained a bit better.

[Amy] There's no concrete discrete set of  availability levels. 0.99, 0.999=
, 0.9999 is the most common usage, 0.995 may also be used. However numbers =
such as 0.996/0.997 are rarely used.

I can add one sentence to explain more: "The Availability level is usually =
expressed in the value of  0.99/0.999/0.9999/0.99999 ".

[DC] That's fine.



-          LSP bandwidth at availability level: the unit is missing.

-          3.2 Why signaling process? It would rather say "Processing Proce=
dures" ?

-          Section 4: Please add a reference to the OSPF and GMPLS security=
 RFCs.

-          IANA section: Please make sure that it is state which registry n=
eeds to be updated and how.

-          References: there is a number of references that is not used in =
the document e.g. RFC 2210, RFC 3473 and so on.

-          Header: "OSPF -- Availability extension" please remove the dashe=
s. I also suggest to substitute with "Availability extensions to OSPF-TE".

-          Please also check the IdNits


Thanks
Daniele


From: Daniele Ceccarelli [mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com]
Sent: gioved=EC 12 maggio 2016 10:25
To: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org<mailto:ccamp@ietf.org>) <ccamp@ietf.org<mailto:cc=
amp@ietf.org>>; TEAS WG (teas@ietf.org<mailto:teas@ietf.org>) <teas@ietf.or=
g<mailto:teas@ietf.org>>
Cc: teas-chairs@ietf.org<mailto:teas-chairs@ietf.org>; ccamp-chairs@ietf.or=
g<mailto:ccamp-chairs@ietf.org>
Subject: Joint WG last call on draft-ietf-ospf-availability-extension-04

CCAMP, TEAS,

This starts a two weeks joint working group last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-o=
spf-availability-extension-04
The last call end on Wednesday May 26th. Please send your comments to both =
the CCAMP and TEAS mailing lists.

All the IPR declarations from authors and contributors have been collected =
and can be found in the history of the document: https://datatracker.ietf.o=
rg/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-extension/history/
Please note that no IPR was disclosed against this draft.

As usual this is also a call for shepherd. If anyone is willing to be the s=
hepherd of the document, please volunteer.



Thanks

Daniele, Fatai, Lou, Pavan


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:E=
N-US">Hi Amy,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:E=
N-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:E=
N-US">Please see my further replies in line.
<br>
When you&#8217;re done with the changes please update the draft and we can =
proceed with the request for publication.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:E=
N-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:E=
N-US">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:E=
N-US">Daniele&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:E=
N-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"> Yemin (Amy) [mailto:amy.yemin@huawei.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> sabato 28 maggio 2016 09:53<br>
<b>To:</b> Daniele Ceccarelli &lt;daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com&gt;; CCAM=
P (ccamp@ietf.org) &lt;ccamp@ietf.org&gt;; TEAS WG (teas@ietf.org) &lt;teas=
@ietf.org&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ccamp-chairs@ietf.org; teas-chairs@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Teas] Joint WG last call on draft-ietf-ospf-availabili=
ty-extension-04<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Hi Daniele,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Thanks for comments. I agree with most=
 of them.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Please see my response to some comment=
s inline.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;T=
ahoma&quot;,sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"> Teas [<a href=3D"mailto=
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniele Ceccarelli<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 28, 2016 5:08 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Daniele Ceccarelli; CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">cca=
mp@ietf.org</a>); TEAS WG (<a href=3D"mailto:teas@ietf.org">teas@ietf.org</=
a>)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-chairs@ietf.org">ccamp-chairs@ietf.org</=
a>; <a href=3D"mailto:teas-chairs@ietf.org">
teas-chairs@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Teas] Joint WG last call on draft-ietf-ospf-availabili=
ty-extension-04<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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H-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:Z=
H-CN">Authors,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:Z=
H-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:Z=
H-CN">I did my review of the document. Please find below some comments:<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:Z=
H-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-far=
east-language:ZH-CN">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Section 1:=
 please put [G.827, F.1703, P.530] in a reference format [G.827] [F.1703][P=
.530].<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-far=
east-language:ZH-CN">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Section 1:=
 Could you elaborate this sentence? &#8220;The availability is a time scale=
 that the requested bandwidth is ensured.&#8221; The meaning is not fully c=
lear to me.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0cm"><span lang=3D"EN-US=
" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp; [Amy] How about this: &#8220;The availability is a time scale, w=
hich is a proportion of the operating time that
 the requested bandwidth is ensured.&#8221; <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0cm"><span lang=3D"EN-US=
" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">[DC] sounds good<sp=
an style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-far=
east-language:ZH-CN">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Section 1:=
 [ASTE] curious acronym choice! Is it correct to have this as a normative r=
eference?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0cm"><span lang=3D"EN-US=
" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp; [Amy] The title of the referenced draft was changed for once. I =
will update the acronym according to the
 new title, how about [ETPAI]?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0cm"><span lang=3D"EN-US=
" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">[DC] I have nothing=
 against one or the other, I was just curious to know how you end up with t=
hat one. Feel free to use the one you prefer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0cm"><span lang=3D"EN-US=
" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-far=
east-language:ZH-CN">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Section 1:=
 [RFC4202]: I would say that this is a normative reference, it is reported =
as informative.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-far=
east-language:ZH-CN">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Section 1:=
 &#8220;&nbsp;&nbsp; If there is a hop that cannot support the Availability=
 sub-TLV, the Availability sub-TLV should be ignored.&#8221; This is normat=
ive text. It should be written in capital letters and I&#8217;d
 suggest to move it from the intro to section 3. Going on with the reading =
I see that it is properly state in section 3.2, hence I suggest just droppi=
ng the sentence in section 1.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-far=
east-language:ZH-CN">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Section 1:=
 &#8220;&#8230;is defined to support in routing signaling.&#8221; There mus=
t be something missing here. What about just &#8220;&#8230;is defined.&#822=
1;?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-far=
east-language:ZH-CN">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Section 2:=
 s/should contain/should include<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-far=
east-language:ZH-CN">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Section 2:=
 I suggest rephrasing this sentence: &#8220; The list provides the informat=
ion that how much bandwidth a link can support for a specified availability=
.&#8221; What about &#8220;The list provides the mapping
 between the link nominal bandwidth and its availability level&#8221;?<span=
 style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-far=
east-language:ZH-CN">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Section 2:=
 s/label switched path/Label Switched Path<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-far=
east-language:ZH-CN">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Section 2:=
 suggested rephrasing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-lan=
guage:ZH-CN">OLD<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">&nbs=
p;&nbsp;To setup a label switching path (LSP), a node may collect link<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">&nbs=
p;&nbsp; information which is spread in OSPF TE LSA messages by network nod=
es<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">&nbs=
p;&nbsp; to get know about the network topology, calculate out an LSP route=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">&nbs=
p;&nbsp; based on the network topology and send the calculated LSP route to=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">&nbs=
p;&nbsp; signaling to initiate a PATH/RESV message for setting up the LSP.<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<pre><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Couri=
er New&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">&nbsp;&nbsp; Availabil=
ity information is required to carry in the signaling<o:p></o:p></span></pr=
e>
<pre><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Couri=
er New&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">&nbsp;&nbsp; message t=
o better utilize the link bandwidth. The signaling<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Couri=
er New&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">&nbsp;&nbsp; extension=
 for availability can be found in [</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">=
<a href=3D"#ref-ASTE" title=3D"H."><span lang=3D"EN-US">ASTE</span></a></sp=
an><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier=
 New&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">].<o:p></o:p></span></pr=
e>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-lan=
guage:ZH-CN">NEW<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">The =
setup of a Label Switched Path requires this piece of information to be flo=
oded in the network and used by the nodes or the
 PCE for the path computation. The computed path can then be provisioned vi=
a the signaling protocol.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Avai=
lability information also need to be carried by the signaling for a better =
utilization of the link bandwidth (CAN YOU EXPLAIN
 WHY?).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Exte=
nsions to RSVP-TE can be found in [ASTE].<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">[Amy] How about the following text:<o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">The setup of a Label Switched Path req=
uires this piece of information to be flooded in the network and used by th=
e nodes or the PCE for the path computation.
 The computed path can then be provisioned via the signaling protocol.<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">For links with variable discrete bandw=
idth, Availability information is need to be carried by the signaling for a=
 better link bandwidth utilization.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Extensions to RSVP-TE can be found in =
[ETPAI].<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:Z=
H-CN">[DC] correct amendment.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-far=
east-language:ZH-CN">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Section 3.=
1 &#8211; ISCD already expanded in section 1, you can use the acronym.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-far=
east-language:ZH-CN">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Section 3.=
1: &#8220;Type: TBA by IANA, suggested value is 0x01&#8221;<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-far=
east-language:ZH-CN">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Section 3.=
1: &#8220;Length&#8221; you should state the units (bit? Bytes?). Moreover =
I see this is a fixed length TLV, hence I would say: &#8220;Length: A 16 bi=
ts field that expresses the length of the TLV in bytes&#8221;<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-far=
east-language:ZH-CN">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Section 3.=
1: &#8220;Availability level&#8221;: is there a discrete set of availabilit=
y levels? E.g. 0.99, 0.999, 0.9999, or it can be filled with any number bet=
ween O and 1? This needs to be explained a bit better.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0cm;text-indent:36.75pt"=
><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-l=
anguage:ZH-CN">[Amy] There&#8217;s no concrete discrete set of &nbsp;availa=
bility levels. 0.99, 0.999, 0.9999 is the most common
 usage, 0.995 may also be used. However numbers such as 0.996/0.997 are rar=
ely used.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0cm;text-indent:36.75pt"=
><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-l=
anguage:ZH-CN">I can add one sentence to explain more: &#8220;The Availabil=
ity level is usually expressed in the value of
 &nbsp;0.99/0.999/0.9999/0.99999 &#8221;.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:5.25pt"><span lang=3D"EN=
-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">[DC] That&#8217;=
s fine.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0cm"><span lang=3D"EN-US=
" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-far=
east-language:ZH-CN">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">LSP bandwi=
dth at availability level: the unit is missing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-far=
east-language:ZH-CN">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">3.2 Why si=
gnaling process? It would rather say &#8220;Processing Procedures&#8221; ?<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-far=
east-language:ZH-CN">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Section 4:=
 Please add a reference to the OSPF and GMPLS security RFCs.<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-far=
east-language:ZH-CN">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">IANA secti=
on: Please make sure that it is state which registry needs to be updated an=
d how.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-far=
east-language:ZH-CN">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">References=
: there is a number of references that is not used in the document e.g. RFC=
 2210, RFC 3473 and so on.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-far=
east-language:ZH-CN">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Header: &#=
8220;OSPF -- Availability extension&#8221; please remove the dashes. I also=
 suggest to substitute with &#8220;Availability extensions to OSPF-TE&#8221=
;.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt"><span lang=3D"E=
N-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">-</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-size:7.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;mso-far=
east-language:ZH-CN">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Please als=
o check the IdNits<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:Z=
H-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:Z=
H-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:Z=
H-CN">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:Z=
H-CN">Daniele<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:Z=
H-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:Z=
H-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
4.0pt">
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-languag=
e:ZH-CN">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language=
:ZH-CN"> Daniele Ceccarelli [<a href=3D"mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.=
com">mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> gioved=EC 12 maggio 2016 10:25<br>
<b>To:</b> CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a>) &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a>&gt;; TEAS WG (<a href=
=3D"mailto:teas@ietf.org">teas@ietf.org</a>) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:teas@iet=
f.org">teas@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:teas-chairs@ietf.org">teas-chairs@ietf.org</a>=
; <a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-chairs@ietf.org">
ccamp-chairs@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Joint WG last call on draft-ietf-ospf-availability-extensio=
n-04<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:Z=
H-CN">CCAMP, TEAS,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:Z=
H-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:Z=
H-CN">This starts a two weeks joint working group last call on draft-ietf-c=
camp-ospf-availability-extension-04<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:Z=
H-CN">The last call end on Wednesday May 26<sup>th</sup>. Please send your =
comments to both the CCAMP and TEAS mailing lists.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:Z=
H-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:Z=
H-CN">All the IPR declarations from authors and contributors have been coll=
ected and can be found in the history of the document:
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availabil=
ity-extension/history/">
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-extensi=
on/history/</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:Z=
H-CN">Please note that no IPR was disclosed against this draft.<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:Z=
H-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:Z=
H-CN">As usual this is also a call for shepherd. If anyone is willing to be=
 the shepherd of the document, please volunteer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-lan=
guage:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-lan=
guage:ZH-CN">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-lan=
guage:ZH-CN">Daniele, Fatai, Lou, Pavan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:Z=
H-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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Hi All,

We have formed a WG Design Team on radio links Yang Modeling(mostly focused=
 on microwave), whose objective is to deliver a problem statement, gap anal=
ysis, and Yang Modeling. The number of deliverables is up to the DT. The wo=
rk of the DT will need to be coordinated with other related YANG work and s=
uch coordination should be done through the IETF process.

The DT will be closed once we have the output adopted as WG document(s).

While the DT has limited membership (and a limited lifespan), how the DT wo=
rks to produce it's individual draft(s) is up to the DT, but the DT meeting=
s and calls will be open to everyone and publicly advertised on the WG mail=
ing list.
Please keep in mind that anyone can propose contributions to the drafts and=
 review them. Moreover after the WG adoption the documents will be managed =
as per normal IETF process.

Thank you all who volunteered.


The members of the DT are:
Jonas Ahlberg [jonas.ahlberg@ericsson.com]
LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO [luismiguel.contrerasmurillo@telefonica.com]
Amy Ye [amy.yemin@huawei.com]
Marko Vaupotic [Marko.Vaupotic@Aviatnet.com]
Jeff Tantsura [jefftant.ietf@gmail.com]
Koji Kawada [k-kawada@ah.jp.nec.com]


Daniele and Fatai





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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">We have formed a WG Design Team on radio links Yang Modeling(most=
ly focused on microwave), whose objective is to deliver a problem statement=
, gap analysis, and Yang Modeling. The
 number of deliverables is up to the DT.&nbsp;The work of the DT will need =
to be coordinated with other related YANG work and such coordination should=
 be done through the IETF process.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">The DT will be closed once we have the output adopted as WG docum=
ent(s).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">While the DT has limited membership (and a limited lifespan), how=
 the DT works to produce it's individual draft(s) is up to the DT, but the =
DT meetings and calls will be open to
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e managed as per normal IETF process.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">Thank you all who volunteered.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
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Working Group,

This is to initiate a two week working group last call on
draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-09.

Please send your comments to the mpls wg mailing list (mpls@ietf.org).

There were one IPR disclosure against the individual draft that this
document replaced.

The document shepherd and working group chairs are frequently asked
about the working group discussions related to any IPR disclosures.

We like to remind the working group that discussion on the content
and validity of an IPR disclosure should not take place on the MPLS wg
list or any IETF mailing lists.

However we are looking for simple statements whether you think the
working group should continue progress the document, regardless of an
existing IPR disclosure. Please include this information in your
"support/do not support" when responding to working group adoption
calls and last calls.

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the working group mailing list that they are not aware of any other
IPRs that relates to this draft.

This working group last call ends June 15, 2016.

CCAMP and TICTOC wg's,

This is to inform you that this wglc is taking place, please direct the
discussion to the mpls wg mailing list.


/Loa
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Working Group,

I seem not to be able to get this working group last call started
correctly :(

- first, I sent the mail without a copy to wg group
- second, I say in the text that "the authors and contributors (with
   one exception) have stated on the working group mailing list that
   they are not aware of any other IPRs [than what have been
   disclosed] that relates to this draft."
   This is not correct, ALL authors and contributors has responded to
   the IPR poll.

Sorry for fumbling in this way!!

/Loa

On 2016-05-31 18:27, Loa Andersson wrote:
> Working Group,
>
> This is to initiate a two week working group last call on
> draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-09.
>
> Please send your comments to the mpls wg mailing list (mpls@ietf.org).
>
> There were one IPR disclosure against the individual draft that this
> document replaced.
>
> The document shepherd and working group chairs are frequently asked
> about the working group discussions related to any IPR disclosures.
>
> We like to remind the working group that discussion on the content
> and validity of an IPR disclosure should not take place on the MPLS wg
> list or any IETF mailing lists.
>
> However we are looking for simple statements whether you think the
> working group should continue progress the document, regardless of an
> existing IPR disclosure. Please include this information in your
> "support/do not support" when responding to working group adoption
> calls and last calls.
>
> All the authors and contributors (with one exception) have stated on
> the working group mailing list that they are not aware of any other
> IPRs that relates to this draft.
>
> This working group last call ends June 15, 2016.
>
> CCAMP and TICTOC wg's,
>
> This is to inform you that this wglc is taking place, please direct the
> discussion to the mpls wg mailing list.
>
>
> /Loa
> for the MPLS wg chairs

