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We've today resolved most of the open topics and we will now translate thos= e conclusions into a concrete model proposal. The plan is to have a complete model in place early next week in order to h= ave an internal review at our next MDT meeting Dec 8. The proposed agenda: * Review of updated model proposal * AOB Working material can be shared with others than the design team on request. Regards /JonasA ...........................................................................= .............................................................. --> Join Skype Meeting This is an online meeting for Skype for Business, the professional meetings= and communications app formerly known as Lync. 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Hi all,

 

This is the invite for the MDT meeting next week.

 

We’ve today resolved most of the open topics a= nd we will now translate those conclusions into a concrete model proposal.<= o:p>

The plan is to have a complete model in place early = next week in order to have an internal review at our next MDT meeting Dec 8= .

 

 

The proposed agenda:

·         Review of updated model proposal<= /p>

·         AOB

 

 

Working material can be shared with others than the = design team on request.

 

Regards

/JonasA

 

 <= /o:p>

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&agr= ave; = Join Skype Meeting      

This is an online meeting= for Skype for Business, the professional meetings and communications app f= ormerly known as Lync.

Join by phone

 

+46107140000 (Swe= den)            &nbs= p;      English (United States)

89925 (Sweden)   =             &nb= sp;   English (United States)  =

 

Find a= local number

 

Conference ID: 78968463

Forgot your dial-in PIN?<= span lang=3D"EN" style=3D"font-size:3.0pt"> |Help  

 

 

To j= oin a Lync / Skype for Business meeting from an Ericsson standard video roo= m, add 77 before the Conference ID (e.g. 771234567 where 1234567 is the con= ference ID).    To join from a video room outside of Ericsson add one of the domains after 77 and Conference ID (e.g= . 771234567@ xxxx.ericsson.net, where xxxx=3Demea/apac/amcs).  For ass= istance contact the IT Service Desk.

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--_000_AM3PR07MB0536E4A9D5ADFE54EC8FDDBC898F0AM3PR07MB0536eurp_-- From nobody Fri Dec 2 01:36:56 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DB4129BBD for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 01:36:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.796 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.796 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-2.896, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8UnrhbiywbuX for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 01:36:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-send.aviatnet.com (mail-send.aviatnet.com [192.147.115.54]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BFA8129BB6 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 01:36:47 -0800 (PST) From: Marko Vaupotic To: Fatai Zhang , "jonas.ahlberg@ericsson.com" , LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO , "Yemin (Amy)" , "jefftant.ietf@gmail.com" , "k-kawada@ah.jp.nec.com" , "Xi.Li@neclab.eu" , "i-akiyoshi@ah.jp.nec.com" , "cjbc@it.uc3m.es" , 'CCAMP' Thread-Topic: Regarding IPR on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk Thread-Index: AdJKq+20kM15vVq5TgSinF3UgzFvigB05pHw Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 09:36:46 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.15.6.9] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_db17dc558dca4860aceb2134d8ef6605USPEXCHPROD02GNETglobal_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Regarding IPR on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 09:36:55 -0000 --_000_db17dc558dca4860aceb2134d8ef6605USPEXCHPROD02GNETglobal_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Fatai, No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft Best regards Marko From: Fatai Zhang [mailto:zhangfatai@huawei.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:49 AM To: jonas.ahlberg@ericsson.com; LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO; Yemin (Amy);= Marko Vaupotic; jefftant.ietf@gmail.com; k-kawada@ah.jp.nec.com; Xi.Li@nec= lab.eu; i-akiyoshi@ah.jp.nec.com; cjbc@it.uc3m.es; 'CCAMP' Cc: Daniele Ceccarelli; Fatai Zhang Subject: Regarding IPR on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk Authors, Contributors, CCAMP As part of the preparation for polling for WG adoption: Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see R= FCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropria= te. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the= above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are awa= re of any relevant IPR. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or co= ntributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which= encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an = IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or = discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please se= e the RFCs listed above andhttp://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/= IntellectualProperty. Thank you Fatai & Daniele --_000_db17dc558dca4860aceb2134d8ef6605USPEXCHPROD02GNETglobal_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear Fatai,

 

No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft

 

Best regards

 

Marko

=  

From: Fatai Zhang [mailto:zhangfatai@huawei.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:49 AM
To: jonas.ahlberg@ericsson.com; LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO; Yemin= (Amy); Marko Vaupotic; jefftant.ietf@gmail.com; k-kawada@ah.jp.nec.com; Xi= .Li@neclab.eu; i-akiyoshi@ah.jp.nec.com; cjbc@it.uc3m.es; 'CCAMP'
Cc: Daniele Ceccarelli; Fatai Zhang
Subject: Regarding IPR on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk

 =

Authors, Contribut= ors, CCAMP

 <= /span>

As part of the pre= paration for polling for WG adoption:

 <= /span>

Are you aware of a= ny IPR that applies to draft identified above?

 <= /span>

Please state eithe= r:

"No, I'm not = aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"

or

"Yes, I'm awa= re of IPR that applies to this draft"

 <= /span>

If so, has this IP= R been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 36= 69 and 5378 for more details)?

If yes to the abov= e, please state either:

 <= /span>

"Yes, the IPR= has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"

or

"No, the IPR = has not been disclosed"

 <= /span>

If you answer no, = please provide any additional details you think appropriate. If you are lis= ted as a document author or contributor please answer the above by respondi= ng to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR.

 <= /span>

NOTE: THIS APPLIES= TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES.

 <= /span>

If you are on the = CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remi= nd you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to= notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating= in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For mor= e information, please see the RFCs listed above andhttp://trac.tools.ietf.o= rg/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

 <= /span>

 <= /span>

Thank you

 <= /span>

Fatai & Daniel= e

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Hi all,=

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We have= the IPR declaration responses from all the authors & contributors, tha= nks!

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Please = note that no IPR was disclosed against this document.

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Thanks<= o:p>

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Fatai

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=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Fatai Zhang
=B7=A2=CB=CD= =CA=B1=BC=E4: 2016=C4=EA11=D4=C2= 30=C8=D5 9:49
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: jonas.ahlberg@ericsson.com; LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO; Yemin (A= my); Marko Vaupotic; jefftant.ietf@gmail.com; k-kawada@ah.jp.nec.com; Xi.Li= @neclab.eu; i-akiyoshi@ah.jp.nec.com; cjbc@it.uc3m.es; 'CCAMP'
=B3=AD=CB=CD: Daniele Ceccarelli; Fatai Zhang
=D6=F7=CC=E2: Regarding IPR on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk

 

Authors, Contributors, CCAMP

 

As part of the preparation for= polling for WG adoption:

 

Are you aware of any IPR that = applies to draft identified above?

 

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any= IPR that applies to this draft"

or

"Yes, I'm aware of IPR th= at applies to this draft"

 

If so, has this IPR been discl= osed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 = for more details)?

If yes to the above, please st= ate either:

 

"Yes, the IPR has been di= sclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"

or

"No, the IPR has not been= disclosed"

 

If you answer no, please provi= de any additional details you think appropriate. If you are listed as a doc= ument author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this e= mail regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR.

 

NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF Y= OU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES.

 

If you are on the CCAMP WG ema= il list but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of yo= ur obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the = IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribut= ion or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, pl= ease see the RFCs listed above andhttp://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/tra= c/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

 

 

Thank you

 

Fatai & Daniele=

 

 

 

--_000_F82A4B6D50F9464B8EBA55651F541CF8AAB1DBCFSZXEMA504MBSchi_-- From nobody Fri Dec 2 02:01:38 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33EC6129671 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 02:01:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.116 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.116 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-2.896, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MEfF9U33DoOY for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 02:01:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F2A21295A0 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 02:01:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml706-cah.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id DBU30283; Fri, 02 Dec 2016 10:01:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SZXEMA419-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.72.37) by lhreml706-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.182) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.301.0; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 10:01:19 +0000 Received: from SZXEMA504-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.8.105]) by SZXEMA419-HUB.china.huawei.com ([10.82.72.37]) with mapi id 14.03.0235.001; Fri, 2 Dec 2016 18:01:14 +0800 From: Fatai Zhang To: "'CCAMP'" Thread-Topic: WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk Thread-Index: AdJMgwLlREAe2xjrSc2YnpyqJ2k9ig== Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 10:01:12 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.74.162.94] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_F82A4B6D50F9464B8EBA55651F541CF8AAB1DBF1SZXEMA504MBSchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A090206.5841467A.0196, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=169.254.8.105, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: 9a4c8992d388ca92acb668905ba9a140 Archived-At: Subject: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 10:01:36 -0000 --_000_F82A4B6D50F9464B8EBA55651F541CF8AAB1DBF1SZXEMA504MBSchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, This starts a two weeks poll on making [draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk-00] a CCAMP w= orking group document. Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not suppor= t". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If yes,= please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once= the document is a WG document. Please note that no IPR was disclosed against this document currently. The poll ends on Friday December 16th. Thanks Fatai & Daniele --_000_F82A4B6D50F9464B8EBA55651F541CF8AAB1DBF1SZXEMA504MBSchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all,

 

This starts a two weeks poll o= n making [draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk-00] a CCAMP working group document.

 

Plea= se send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do= not support".

If i= ndicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If yes, ple= ase also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the= document is a WG document.

 

Please note that no IPR was di= sclosed against this document currently.

 

The poll ends on Friday Decemb= er 16th.

 

Thanks

Fatai & Daniele

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--_000_F82A4B6D50F9464B8EBA55651F541CF8AAB1DBF1SZXEMA504MBSchi_-- From nobody Sun Dec 4 22:42:43 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A27CD12973A for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2016 22:42:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.116 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.116 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-2.896, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YIdteJc65x9l for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2016 22:42:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11C731293D9 for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2016 22:42:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id CWN97747; Mon, 05 Dec 2016 06:42:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SZXEMA416-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.72.35) by lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.130) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.301.0; Mon, 5 Dec 2016 06:42:29 +0000 Received: from SZXEMA506-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.4.67]) by SZXEMA416-HUB.china.huawei.com ([10.82.72.35]) with mapi id 14.03.0235.001; Mon, 5 Dec 2016 14:42:21 +0800 From: "Yemin (Amy)" To: Fatai Zhang , "'CCAMP'" Thread-Topic: WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk Thread-Index: AdJMgwLlREAe2xjrSc2YnpyqJ2k9igCPpwiQ Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2016 06:42:21 +0000 Message-ID: <9C5FD3EFA72E1740A3D41BADDE0B461FC6192238@szxema506-mbs.china.huawei.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.169.31.176] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_9C5FD3EFA72E1740A3D41BADDE0B461FC6192238szxema506mbschi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A020206.58450C5D.0185, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=169.254.4.67, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: 642f688788cc5707fa4ac93197960f07 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2016 06:42:41 -0000 --_000_9C5FD3EFA72E1740A3D41BADDE0B461FC6192238szxema506mbschi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yes/support as co-author. For control and management of radio link (mw/mmw), the draft provides the r= equired characteristics and use cases, which is fundamental for YANG data m= odel definition. From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Fatai Zhang Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 6:01 PM To: 'CCAMP' Subject: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk Hi all, This starts a two weeks poll on making [draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk-00] a CCAMP w= orking group document. Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not suppor= t". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If yes,= please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once= the document is a WG document. Please note that no IPR was disclosed against this document currently. The poll ends on Friday December 16th. Thanks Fatai & Daniele --_000_9C5FD3EFA72E1740A3D41BADDE0B461FC6192238szxema506mbschi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

yes/support as co-auth= or.

 

For control and manage= ment of radio link (mw/mmw), the draft provides the required characteristic= s and use cases, which is fundamental for YANG data model definition.

=  

From: = CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Fatai Zhang
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 6:01 PM
To: 'CCAMP' <ccamp@ietf.org>
Subject: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk

 =

Hi all,

 

This starts a two weeks poll on making [draft= -mwdt-ccamp-fmwk-00] a CCAMP working group document.

 

Please send email t= o the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support&qu= ot;.

If indicating no, p= lease state your reservations with the document. If yes, please also feel f= ree to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the document is a = WG document.

 

Please note that no IPR was disclosed against= this document currently.

 

The poll ends on Friday December 16th.

 

Thanks

Fatai & Daniele

 

 

 

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yes/s= upport the adoption as a co-author of the framework document.

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Subject: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk

 =

Hi all,=

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This starts a two = weeks poll on making [draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk-00] a CCAMP working group docum= ent.

 <= /span>

Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or= "no/do not support".

If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document.= If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addres= sed once the document is a WG document.

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Please note that n= o IPR was disclosed against this document currently.

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--_000_AM3PR07MB0536304A740BFF5F67EBFE6489830AM3PR07MB0536eurp_-- From nobody Mon Dec 5 01:39:30 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F86129856 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2016 01:39:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.202 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.202 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Mr1fzQYTp8pI for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2016 01:39:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp (TYO201.gate.nec.co.jp [210.143.35.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C61D129855 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2016 01:39:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgate3.nec.co.jp ([10.7.69.192]) by tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id uB59d2oL009759; Mon, 5 Dec 2016 18:39:02 +0900 (JST) Received: from mailsv.nec.co.jp (imss63.nec.co.jp [10.7.69.158]) by mailgate3.nec.co.jp (8.11.7/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) with ESMTP id uB59d2I01529; Mon, 5 Dec 2016 18:39:02 +0900 (JST) Received: from mail03.kamome.nec.co.jp (mail03.kamome.nec.co.jp [10.25.43.7]) by mailsv.nec.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id uB59d1mM010941; Mon, 5 Dec 2016 18:39:01 +0900 (JST) Received: from bpxc99gp.gisp.nec.co.jp ([10.38.151.146] [10.38.151.146]) by mail03.kamome.nec.co.jp with ESMTP id BT-MMP-103016; Mon, 5 Dec 2016 18:38:31 +0900 Received: from BPXM17GP.gisp.nec.co.jp ([10.38.151.209]) by BPXC18GP.gisp.nec.co.jp ([10.38.151.146]) with mapi id 14.03.0224.002; Mon, 5 Dec 2016 18:38:30 +0900 From: Koji Kawada To: Fatai Zhang , "'CCAMP'" Thread-Topic: WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk Thread-Index: AdJMgwLlREAe2xjrSc2YnpyqJ2k9igCV8cpA Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2016 09:38:30 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: ja-JP, en-US Content-Language: ja-JP X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.38.32.55] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2016 09:39:20 -0000 Dear Fatai yes/support as co-author. Best Regards, Kawada _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ NEC Corporation Mobile Wireless Solutions Division Koji Kawada Tel: +81 44 455 8458 PHS: 8-22-76893 / ZIP: 22-82302(EMS) e-mail: k-kawada@ah.jp.nec.com _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ > -----Original Message----- > From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Fatai Zhang > Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 7:01 PM > To: 'CCAMP' > Subject: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk >=20 > Hi all, >=20 >=20 >=20 > This starts a two weeks poll on making [draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk-00] a CCAMP= working group document. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not supp= ort". >=20 > If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If ye= s, please also feel free to provide comments > you'd like to see addressed once the document is a WG document. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Please note that no IPR was disclosed against this document currently. >=20 >=20 >=20 > The poll ends on Friday December 16th. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Thanks >=20 > Fatai & Daniele >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From nobody Mon Dec 5 01:39:40 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24B5129867 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2016 01:39:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.797 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.797 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-2.896, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QQeAZ-IkL0Se for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2016 01:39:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailer2.neclab.eu (mailer2.neclab.eu [195.37.70.41]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BEF4C129868 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2016 01:39:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailer2.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D65F2005; Mon, 5 Dec 2016 10:39:15 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Amavisd on Debian GNU/Linux (neclab.eu) Received: from mailer2.neclab.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (atlas-b.office.hd [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AmMYvWoaTRzK; Mon, 5 Dec 2016 10:39:14 +0100 (CET) X-ENC: Last-Hop-TLS-encrypted X-ENC: Last-Hop-TLS-encrypted Received: from METHONE.office.hd (methone.office.hd [192.168.24.54]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailer2.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E44DFF2003; Mon, 5 Dec 2016 10:39:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from PALLENE.office.hd ([169.254.1.175]) by METHONE.office.hd ([192.168.24.54]) with mapi id 14.03.0319.002; Mon, 5 Dec 2016 10:39:10 +0100 From: Xi Li To: Fatai Zhang , 'CCAMP' Thread-Topic: WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk Thread-Index: AdJMgwLlREAe2xjrSc2YnpyqJ2k9igCVinmg Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2016 09:39:09 +0000 Message-ID: <139E9C21EC047B43BA40AD7031AC09BE1DD7516B@PALLENE.office.hd> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US, de-DE Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.1.6.124] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_139E9C21EC047B43BA40AD7031AC09BE1DD7516BPALLENEofficehd_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2016 09:39:31 -0000 --_000_139E9C21EC047B43BA40AD7031AC09BE1DD7516BPALLENEofficehd_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Fatai, yes/support as a co-author of the framework document. This draft provides the requirements and use cases for the YANG data model = definition, and in addition presents a detailed gap analysis compared to th= e existing models, which lists the missing parameters and functionalities o= f the existing models and thereby identifies the need as well as the aspect= s to include in the YANG data model. Best regards, Xi From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Fatai Zhang Sent: Freitag, 2. Dezember 2016 11:01 To: 'CCAMP' Subject: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk Hi all, This starts a two weeks poll on making [draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk-00] a CCAMP w= orking group document. Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not suppor= t". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If yes,= please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once= the document is a WG document. Please note that no IPR was disclosed against this document currently. The poll ends on Friday December 16th. Thanks Fatai & Daniele --_000_139E9C21EC047B43BA40AD7031AC09BE1DD7516BPALLENEofficehd_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear = Fatai,

=  

ye= s/support as a co-author of the fr= amework document.

=  

This draft provides th= e requirements and use cases for the YANG data model definition, and in add= ition presents a detailed gap analysis compared to the existing models, whi= ch lists the missing parameters and functionalities of the existing models and thereby identifies the need as = well as the aspects to include in the YANG data model. 

=  

Best = regards,

Xi

=  

=  

From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Fatai Zhang
Sent: Freitag, 2. Dezember 2016 11:01
To: 'CCAMP'
Subject: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk

 =

Hi all,

 

This starts a two weeks poll on making [draft= -mwdt-ccamp-fmwk-00] a CCAMP working group document.

 

Please send email t= o the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support&qu= ot;.

If indicating no, p= lease state your reservations with the document. If yes, please also feel f= ree to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the document is a = WG document.

 

Please note that no IPR was disclosed against= this document currently.

 

The poll ends on Friday December 16th.

 

Thanks

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--_000_AM3PR07MB05367E9EEA81FE1CEB6F861089850AM3PR07MB0536eurp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I've updated the agenda so it now includes the open topics that remain to b= e sorted out before we can complete the draft model. * Review of updated model proposal o Default values o Mandatory leaves o Real-time PM counters & thresholds o TDM representation o Protection configuration * AOB Regards JonasA From: Jonas Ahlberg Sent: den 1 december 2016 16:59 To: 'LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO' ; 'Yemin (Amy' ; 'Marko.Vaupotic@Aviatnet.com' <= Marko.Vaupotic@Aviatnet.com>; 'jefftant.ietf@gmail.com' ; 'Koji Kawada' ; 'Ippei Akiyoshi (i-akiyoshi= @ah.jp.nec.com) (i-akiyoshi@ah.jp.nec.com)' ; 'Xi= Li' ; 'Martin Skorupski (External' ; 'cjbc@it.uc3m.es' ; 'Rahman, Akbar' = Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: MDT meeting - YANG Data Model - December 8, 9:00-10:00 (CET) Hi all, This is the invite for the MDT meeting next week. We've today resolved most of the open topics and we will now translate thos= e conclusions into a concrete model proposal. The plan is to have a complete model in place early next week in order to h= ave an internal review at our next MDT meeting Dec 8. The proposed agenda: * Review of updated model proposal * AOB Working material can be shared with others than the design team on request. Regards /JonasA ...........................................................................= .............................................................. --> Join Skype Meeting This is an online meeting for Skype for Business, the professional meetings= and communications app formerly known as Lync. 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Hi all,

 

I’ve updated the agenda so it now includes the= open topics that remain to be sorted out before we can complete the draft model.

 

·         Review of upda= ted model proposal

o   Default values=

o   Mandatory leav= es

o   Real-time PM c= ounters & thresholds

o   TDM representa= tion

o   Protection con= figuration

·         AOB=

 

Regards

JonasA

 

 

From: Jonas Ahlberg
Sent: den 1 december 2016 16:59
To: 'LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO' <luismiguel.contrerasmurillo@= telefonica.com>; 'Yemin (Amy' <amy.yemin@huawei.com>; 'Marko.Vaupo= tic@Aviatnet.com' <Marko.Vaupotic@Aviatnet.com>; 'jefftant.ietf@gmail= .com' <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>; 'Koji Kawada' <k-kawada@ah.jp.nec= .com>; 'Ippei Akiyoshi (i-akiyoshi@ah.jp.nec.com) (i-akiyoshi@ah.jp.nec.com)' <= ;i-akiyoshi@ah.jp.nec.com>; 'Xi Li' <Xi.Li@neclab.eu>; 'Martin Sko= rupski (External' <martin.skorupski.external@telefonica.com>; 'cjbc@i= t.uc3m.es' <cjbc@it.uc3m.es>; 'Rahman, Akbar' <Akbar.Rahman@InterD= igital.com>
Cc: ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: MDT meeting - YANG Data Model - December 8, 9:00-10:00 (CET= )

 

Hi all,

 

This is the invite for the MDT meeting next week.

 

We’ve today resolved most of the open topics a= nd we will now translate those conclusions into a concrete model proposal.<= o:p>

The plan is to have a complete model in place early = next week in order to have an internal review at our next MDT meeting Dec 8= .

 

 

The proposed agenda:

·         Review of updated model proposal<= /p>

·         AOB

 

 

Working material can be shared with others than the = design team on request.

 

Regards

/JonasA

 

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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Some short notes from the meeting today. * Review of updated model proposal o Default values & mandatory leaves Describe the behavior of a system where a leaf is not supported or is not c= onfigured. What does the standard say? What's the behavior of the system in case of not defining a value? Do we ne= ed to state which leaves are mandatory? (Jonas/Xi) RFC 6020 is a good starting point o Real-time PM counters & thresholds Explained. Response via mail from team if they (marked yellow) should be in= cluded or not. Explain use cases (Jonas) o TDM representation Rely on RFC 7223 also for TDM connections/interfaces. Include info in RLT enough to understand how many connections are supported= and how much of the total RLT capacity is allocated to TDM (# of connectio= ns of various types). Amy & Jonas to propose. o Protection configuration Amy & Jonas to propose. * AOB o Planning: ? Resolution of open topics & model proposal ready by next week. ? Target a submission of an updated version of the model before the Christ= mas holidays. Regards JonasA From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jonas Ahlberg Sent: den 7 december 2016 15:17 To: 'LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO' ; 'Yemin (Amy' ; 'Marko.Vaupotic@Aviatnet.com' <= Marko.Vaupotic@Aviatnet.com>; 'jefftant.ietf@gmail.com' ; 'Koji Kawada' ; 'Ippei Akiyoshi (i-akiyoshi= @ah.jp.nec.com) (i-akiyoshi@ah.jp.nec.com)' ; 'Xi= Li' ; 'Martin Skorupski (External' ; cjbc@it.uc3m.es; Rahman, Akbar Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] MDT meeting - YANG Data Model - December 8, 9:00-10:00= (CET) Hi all, I've updated the agenda so it now includes the open topics that remain to b= e sorted out before we can complete the draft model. * Review of updated model proposal o Default values & mandatory leaves o Real-time PM counters & thresholds o TDM representation o Protection configuration * AOB Regards JonasA From: Jonas Ahlberg Sent: den 1 december 2016 16:59 To: 'LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO' >; 'Yemin (Amy' >; 'Marko.Vaupotic@Aviatnet.c= om' >; 'jef= ftant.ietf@gmail.com' >; 'Koji Kawada' >= ; 'Ippei Akiyoshi (i-akiyoshi@ah.jp.nec.com) (i-akiyoshi@ah.jp.nec.com)' >; 'Xi Li' >; 'Martin Skorupski (External' >; 'c= jbc@it.uc3m.es' >; 'Rahman, Akbar' = > Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: MDT meeting - YANG Data Model - December 8, 9:00-10:00 (CET) Hi all, This is the invite for the MDT meeting next week. We've today resolved most of the open topics and we will now translate thos= e conclusions into a concrete model proposal. The plan is to have a complete model in place early next week in order to h= ave an internal review at our next MDT meeting Dec 8. The proposed agenda: * Review of updated model proposal * AOB Working material can be shared with others than the design team on request. Regards /JonasA ...........................................................................= .............................................................. --> Join Skype Meeting This is an online meeting for Skype for Business, the professional meetings= and communications app formerly known as Lync. Join by phone +46107140000 (Sweden) Engli= sh (United States) 89925 (Sweden) English (United St= ates) Find a local number Conference ID: 78968463 Forgot your dial-in PIN? |Help To join a Lync / Skype for Business meeting from an Ericsson standard video= room, add 77 before the Conference ID (e.g. 771234567 where 1234567 is the= conference ID). To join from a video room outside of Ericsson add one o= f the domains after 77 and Conference ID (e.g. 771234567@ xxxx.ericsson.net= , where xxxx=3Demea/apac/amcs). For assistance contact the IT Service Desk= . [!OC([1033])!] ...........................................................................= .............................................................. --_000_AM3PR07MB05369AB1736CA3FAF613196589840AM3PR07MB0536eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all,

 

Some short notes from = the meeting today.

 

·         Review of upda= ted model proposal

o   Default values= & mandatory leaves
Describe the behavior of a system where a leaf is not supported or is not c= onfigured. What does the standard say?=

What’s the behavi= or of the system in case of not defining a value? Do we need to state which leaves are mandatory? (Jonas/Xi)

   &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;   RFC 6020 is a good starting point

o   Real-time PM c= ounters & thresholds
Explained. Response via mail from team if they (marked yellow) should be in= cluded or not.
Explain use cases (Jonas)

o   TDM representa= tion
Rely on RFC 7223 also for TDM connections/interfaces.
Include info in RLT enough to understand how many connections are supported= and how much of the total RLT capacity is allocated to TDM (# of connectio= ns of various types). Amy & Jonas to propose.

o   Protection con= figuration
Amy & Jonas to propose.

·         AOB

o   Planning:

§  Resolution of = open topics & model proposal ready by next week.

§  Target a submi= ssion of an updated version of the model before the Christmas holidays.

 

Regards

JonasA

 

From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] <= b>On Behalf Of Jonas Ahlberg
Sent: den 7 december 2016 15:17
To: 'LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO' <luismiguel.contrerasmurillo@= telefonica.com>; 'Yemin (Amy' <amy.yemin@huawei.com>; 'Marko.Vaupo= tic@Aviatnet.com' <Marko.Vaupotic@Aviatnet.com>; 'jefftant.ietf@gmail= .com' <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>; 'Koji Kawada' <k-kawada@ah.jp.nec= .com>; 'Ippei Akiyoshi (i-akiyoshi@ah.jp.nec.com) (i-akiyoshi@ah.jp.nec.com)' <= ;i-akiyoshi@ah.jp.nec.com>; 'Xi Li' <Xi.Li@neclab.eu>; 'Martin Sko= rupski (External' <martin.skorupski.external@telefonica.com>; cjbc@it= .uc3m.es; Rahman, Akbar <Akbar.Rahman@InterDigital.com>
Cc: ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [CCAMP] MDT meeting - YANG Data Model - December 8, 9:0= 0-10:00 (CET)

 

Hi all,

 

I’ve updated the agenda so it now includes the= open topics that remain to be sorted out before we can complete the draft model.

 

·         Review of upda= ted model proposal

o   Default values= & mandatory leaves

o   Real-time PM c= ounters & thresholds

o   TDM representa= tion

o   Protection con= figuration

·         AOB

 

Regards

JonasA

 

 

From: Jonas Ahlberg
Sent: den 1 december 2016 16:59
To: 'LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO' <luismiguel.contrerasmurillo@telefonica.co= m>; 'Yemin (Amy' <amy.yem= in@huawei.com>; 'Marko.Vaupotic@Aviatnet.com' <Marko.Vaupotic@Aviatnet= .com>; 'jefftant.ietf@gmail.com' <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>; 'Koji Kawada' <k-kawada@ah.jp.nec.com>; 'Ippei Akiyoshi (i-akiyoshi@ah= .jp.nec.com) (i-akiyoshi@ah= .jp.nec.com)' <i-akiyosh= i@ah.jp.nec.com>; 'Xi Li' <Xi.= Li@neclab.eu>; 'Martin Skorupski (External' <martin.skorupski.external@telefonica.com>; 'cjbc@= it.uc3m.es' <cjbc@it.uc3m.es>;= 'Rahman, Akbar' <Akbar= .Rahman@InterDigital.com>
Cc: ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: MDT meeting - YANG Data Model - December 8, 9:00-10:00 (CET= )

 

Hi all,

 

This is the invite for the MDT meeting next week.

 

We’ve today resolved most of the open topics a= nd we will now translate those conclusions into a concrete model proposal.<= o:p>

The plan is to have a complete model in place early = next week in order to have an internal review at our next MDT meeting Dec 8= .

 

 

The proposed agenda:

·         Review of updated model proposal<= /p>

·         AOB

 

 

Working material can be shared with others than the = design team on request.

 

Regards

/JonasA

 

 <= /o:p>

...................................................= ...........................................................................= ...........

&agr= ave; = Join Skype Meeting      

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What does the standard say? What's the behavior of the system in case of not defining a value? Do we need to state which leaves are mandatory? (Jonas/Xi) RFC 6020 is a good starting point Well, NO, it is a dreadful starting point! I cannot tell from the minutes who said this, but YANG is now V1.1, RFC7950, and the changes from RFC6020 are manifold (see s.1.1) and some are incompatible; there was much discussion about user and system defined values and defaults (see also RFC6243 when using NETCONF) and I have lost track of where this ended, but the new features of RFC7950 persuade me that YANG 1.0 is dead and it is V1.1 that everyone else will be using and so its treatment of this is the only way to go. I reckon I will need several weeks to get my mind around the changes even though, or perhaps because, I track the discussions on the netmod WG list:-( Tom Petch o Real-time PM counters & thresholds Explained. Response via mail from team if they (marked yellow) should be included or not. Explain use cases (Jonas) o TDM representation Rely on RFC 7223 also for TDM connections/interfaces. Include info in RLT enough to understand how many connections are supported and how much of the total RLT capacity is allocated to TDM (# of connections of various types). Amy & Jonas to propose. o Protection configuration Amy & Jonas to propose. * AOB o Planning: ? Resolution of open topics & model proposal ready by next week. ? Target a submission of an updated version of the model before the Christmas holidays. Regards JonasA From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jonas Ahlberg Sent: den 7 december 2016 15:17 To: 'LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO' ; 'Yemin (Amy' ; 'Marko.Vaupotic@Aviatnet.com' ; 'jefftant.ietf@gmail.com' ; 'Koji Kawada' ; 'Ippei Akiyoshi (i-akiyoshi@ah.jp.nec.com) (i-akiyoshi@ah.jp.nec.com)' ; 'Xi Li' ; 'Martin Skorupski (External' ; cjbc@it.uc3m.es; Rahman, Akbar Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] MDT meeting - YANG Data Model - December 8, 9:00-10:00 (CET) Hi all, I've updated the agenda so it now includes the open topics that remain to be sorted out before we can complete the draft model. * Review of updated model proposal o Default values & mandatory leaves o Real-time PM counters & thresholds o TDM representation o Protection configuration * AOB Regards JonasA From: Jonas Ahlberg Sent: den 1 december 2016 16:59 From nobody Thu Dec 8 04:46:19 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A56D0129889 for ; 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DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; SCL:1; SRVR:AM3PR07MB0536; H:AM3PR07MB0536.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: ericsson.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 08 Dec 2016 12:45:26.5672 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 92e84ceb-fbfd-47ab-be52-080c6b87953f X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: AM3PR07MB0536 X-OriginatorOrg: ericsson.com X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA02SfyzUcRjH9/n+unNz69NFnlDZVX9EJGv2XbVKln1Zqo1iluXKN4TL7itD f0RiWJpS23UUVyoZ/UBH9IOrCC1joTTTUDidZKtElLuvtv57Pc/78zzv53n2kZKKftpRGqNO 5DVqVZySkVFXQmvXuo8f8A/1bOzxZGfyzxBsdfZ9hh0uekexmXVVBKvvyqDZnsEBijVl/yJY bVcLyb4Z0TKstuyShJ1s1JJs/1QbsdOWG9XXkNzznArE1b+clnCPdP0S7uwLM82Vlv4iuJu9 WTT3o/cBzWmbxyRcziy5XxYm2xbJx8Uk8ZqN2yNk0c9y+QStS3L6wyVpaGRFLrKRAt4MLaZq 2sIKfBdBuskvF8kWuAVBwecLjCWgcB4J9e0FlKhcJMBcMoHEYBBBd7OBsdQz2BO+mK5ZS+xw NQUD422URSDxOsjqbbOaLMNBUDfxBFnYDgdDlmGeFtkLesZ1pIUpvBY+dc1Y83J8CC6baxYH rCUgrXK3hW3wDij4+MraH+Hl8LOtghC9HKBvuJgQl8NQ+riDFNkexoZEL4TDwTxqosS8C7SU mReGli5wIHT+ZMR0ILSbC627AD5HQWPBZYkoxML7DAP5j4s/nCfFR7kE6Dt6F5s6Q4fpqkQU OhmY/mqQiBvwcLsyE4mXcIT+tzkoH7nq/htc5A1Q0jDFiOwGt/TjpM56jKXQemWYKkFUObIX eEGIj/Ly8uA1MUcF4YTaQ80nVqGFT9dUM7ulDjWN+BgRliKlrXxyDReqoFVJQkq8EYGUVNrJ fYP8QxXySFVKKq85cVhzMo4XjMhJSikd5N53BkIUOEqVyMfyfAKv+acSUhvHNHTk9W+Vj3Ox 5qn3cSq2VU0fCvhuuLXSaS6isnbI788wm1xVOaAa8srry7PX3fab7OlyVwQPDsnszd0H9Ub4 1nRvX9ix1Pn1eJfHw1LiRlFm597T26JmZb4Bq7cW8u+CVk3vLT81m98QcH23W2B+X7DcJ2xm 7pv7HmO4q7y1ud4UoqSEaNUmV1IjqP4Csnf4R3ADAAA= Archived-At: Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CCAMP] MDT meeting - YANG Data Model - December 8, 9:00-10:00 (CET) X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2016 12:46:16 -0000 Hi Tom, Thanks for the update. It's appreciated. As you suggest, we should use the info in RFC7950 & RFC6243 as the basis fo= r our discussion about mandatory data nodes & default values. Thanks JonasA -----Original Message----- From: t.petch [mailto:ietfc@btconnect.com]=20 Sent: den 8 december 2016 12:28 To: Jonas Ahlberg ; 'LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURI= LLO' ; 'Yemin (Amy' ; Marko.Vaupotic@Aviatnet.com; jefftant.ietf@gmail.com; 'Koji Ka= wada' ; i-akiyoshi@ah.jp.nec.com; 'Xi Li' ; 'Martin Skorupski (External' ; cjbc@it.uc3m.es; Rahman, Akbar Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] MDT meeting - YANG Data Model - December 8, 9:00-10:00= (CET) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonas Ahlberg" Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 9:09 AM Hi all, Some short notes from the meeting today. * Review of updated model proposal o Default values & mandatory leaves Describe the behavior of a system where a leaf is not supported or is not c= onfigured. What does the standard say? What's the behavior of the system in case of not defining a value? Do we ne= ed to state which leaves are mandatory? (Jonas/Xi) RFC 6020 is a good starting point Well, NO, it is a dreadful starting point! I cannot tell from the minutes who said this, but YANG is now V1.1, RFC7950= , and the changes from RFC6020 are manifold (see s.1.1) and some are incomp= atible; there was much discussion about user and system defined values and = defaults (see also RFC6243 when using NETCONF) and I have lost track of whe= re this ended, but the new features of RFC7950 persuade me that YANG 1.0 is= dead and it is V1.1 that everyone else will be using and so its treatment = of this is the only way to go. I reckon I will need several weeks to get my mind around the changes even t= hough, or perhaps because, I track the discussions on the netmod WG list:-( Tom Petch o Real-time PM counters & thresholds Explained. Response via mail from team if they (marked yellow) should be in= cluded or not. Explain use cases (Jonas) o TDM representation Rely on RFC 7223 also for TDM connections/interfaces. Include info in RLT enough to understand how many connections are supported= and how much of the total RLT capacity is allocated to TDM (# of connectio= ns of various types). Amy & Jonas to propose. o Protection configuration Amy & Jonas to propose. * AOB o Planning: ? Resolution of open topics & model proposal ready by next week. ? Target a submission of an updated version of the model before the Christ= mas holidays. Regards JonasA From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jonas Ahlberg Sent: den 7 december 2016 15:17 To: 'LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO' ; 'Yemin (Amy' ; 'Marko.Vaupotic@Aviatnet.com' ; 'jefftant.ietf@gmail.com' ; 'Koji Kawada' ; 'Ippei A= kiyoshi (i-akiyoshi@ah.jp.nec.com) (i-akiyoshi@ah.jp.nec.com)' ; 'Xi Li' ; 'Martin Skorupski (E= xternal' ; cjbc@it.uc3m.es; Rahma= n, Akbar Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] MDT meeting - YANG Data Model - December 8, 9:00-10:00 (CET) Hi all, I've updated the agenda so it now includes the open topics that remain to b= e sorted out before we can complete the draft model. * Review of updated model proposal o Default values & mandatory leaves o Real-time PM counters & thresholds o TDM representation o Protection configuration * AOB Regards JonasA From: Jonas Ahlberg Sent: den 1 december 2016 16:59 From nobody Mon Dec 12 01:30:59 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B72E4129599 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 01:30:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.796 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.796 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-2.896, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iQj75f229hsA for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 01:30:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-send.aviatnet.com (mail-send.aviatnet.com [192.147.115.54]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40456129592 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 01:30:56 -0800 (PST) From: Marko Vaupotic To: Fatai Zhang , 'CCAMP' Thread-Topic: WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk Thread-Index: AdJMgwLlREAe2xjrSc2YnpyqJ2k9igH11JBw Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 09:30:54 +0000 Message-ID: <7930bf18ceb14b1ab502baa13bd7c771@USP-EXCHPROD02.GNET.global.vpn> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.15.6.10] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7930bf18ceb14b1ab502baa13bd7c771USPEXCHPROD02GNETglobal_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 09:30:58 -0000 --_000_7930bf18ceb14b1ab502baa13bd7c771USPEXCHPROD02GNETglobal_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Fatai yes/support as co-author. Best Regards, Marko From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Fatai Zhang Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 11:01 AM To: 'CCAMP' Subject: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk Hi all, This starts a two weeks poll on making [draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk-00] a CCAMP w= orking group document. Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not suppor= t". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If yes,= please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once= the document is a WG document. Please note that no IPR was disclosed against this document currently. The poll ends on Friday December 16th. Thanks Fatai & Daniele --_000_7930bf18ceb14b1ab502baa13bd7c771USPEXCHPROD02GNETglobal_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bo= unces@ietf.org] =B4=FA=B1=ED Fatai Zhang
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=D6=F7=CC=E2: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk

 

Hi all,

 

This starts a two weeks poll o= n making [draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk-00] a CCAMP working group document.

 

Plea= se send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do= not support".

If i= ndicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If yes, ple= ase also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the= document is a WG document.

 

Please note that no IPR was di= sclosed against this document currently.

 

The poll ends on Friday Decemb= er 16th.

 

Thanks

Fatai & Daniele

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--_000_E0C26CAA2504C84093A49B2CAC3261A43987BFCBSZXEMA504MBXchi_-- From nobody Mon Dec 12 20:43:41 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34585129860 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 20:43:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.116 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.116 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, HK_RANDOM_FROM=0.999, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-2.896, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tt46ke5oQHxq for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 20:43:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B636129508 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 20:43:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml703-cah.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id CWZ67593; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 04:43:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from DFWEML702-CAH.china.huawei.com (10.193.5.176) by lhreml703-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.104) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.301.0; Tue, 13 Dec 2016 04:43:35 +0000 Received: from DFWEML501-MBX.china.huawei.com ([10.193.5.178]) by dfweml702-cah.china.huawei.com ([10.193.5.176]) with mapi id 14.03.0301.000; Mon, 12 Dec 2016 20:43:30 -0800 From: Leeyoung To: "CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org)" Thread-Topic: WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk Thread-Index: AdJMgwLlREAe2xjrSc2YnpyqJ2k9igIeGl2w Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 04:43:30 +0000 Message-ID: <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E172A8EA089@dfweml501-mbx> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.212.246.157] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E172A8EA089dfweml501mbx_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A090206.584F7C78.0167, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: 642f688788cc5707fa4ac93197960f07 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 04:43:40 -0000 --_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E172A8EA089dfweml501mbx_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes/support. Young From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Fatai Zhang Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 4:01 AM To: 'CCAMP' Subject: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk Hi all, This starts a two weeks poll on making [draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk-00] a CCAMP w= orking group document. Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not suppor= t". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If yes,= please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once= the document is a WG document. Please note that no IPR was disclosed against this document currently. The poll ends on Friday December 16th. Thanks Fatai & Daniele --_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E172A8EA089dfweml501mbx_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Fatai Zhang
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 4:01 AM
To: 'CCAMP'
Subject: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk

 =

Hi all,

 

This starts a two weeks poll on making [draft= -mwdt-ccamp-fmwk-00] a CCAMP working group document.

 

Please send email t= o the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support&qu= ot;.

If indicating no, p= lease state your reservations with the document. If yes, please also feel f= ree to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the document is a = WG document.

 

Please note that no IPR was disclosed against= this document currently.

 

The poll ends on Friday December 16th.

 

Thanks

Fatai & Daniele

 

 

 

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Hi all,

 

This is the invite for the MDT meeting this week (to= morrow).

 

We’ve have resolved most of the open issues and we n= ow have a model covering a complete scope for management of radio link inte= rfaces.

I suggest that we spend the meeting time on reviewin= g the model with the purpose to get a new revision ready for submission.

 

Agenda:

·         Review of updated model proposal<= /p>

o   Default values

o   TDM support

o   Protection

o   Is rlts-1, rlts-2 and tlts-1 really required= ?

·         AOB

 

 

Regards

/JonasA

 

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It was an important update since RFC7950 allows us to use the mandatory sta= tement also in parts augmenting RFC7223. The issue I have is that the pyang tool I've used for validation of the mod= el seems to be based on RFC6020, in which mandatory statements are not allo= wed to be used in that manner. Do you know if there are updates or other tools that support RFC7950? Regards JonasA -----Original Message----- From: t.petch [mailto:ietfc@btconnect.com]=20 Sent: den 15 december 2016 12:37 To: Jonas Ahlberg Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] MDT meeting - YANG Data Model - December 15,9:00-10:00= (CET) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonas Ahlberg" Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 7:41 AM Subject: [CCAMP] MDT meeting - YANG Data Model - December 15,9:00-10:00 (CET) Hi all, This is the invite for the MDT meeting this week (tomorrow). We've have resolved most of the open issues and we now have a model coverin= g a complete scope for management of radio link interfaces. Sorry to be so ignorant but I have a basic question, is the model available= as an I-D, if so, what is its name? I have a folder of 238 I-Ds of YANG models but am struggling to correlate t= his post with it :-( Tom Petch I suggest that we spend the meeting time on reviewing the model with the pu= rpose to get a new revision ready for submission. Agenda: * Review of updated model proposal o Default values o TDM support o Protection o Is rlts-1, rlts-2 and tlts-1 really required? * AOB Regards /JonasA ........................................................................ ................................................................. --> Join Skype Meeting This is an online meeting for Skype for Business, the professional meetings= and communications app formerly known as Lync. 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From nobody Thu Dec 15 09:00:09 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE4312A00F for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 09:00:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.215 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.215 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-2.896] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=telekom.de Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uNvQXGx3vXVF for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 09:00:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from MAILOUT21.telekom.de (MAILOUT21.telekom.de [80.149.113.251]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED509129E88 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 08:59:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=telekom.de; i=@telekom.de; q=dns/txt; s=dtag1; t=1481821200; x=1513357200; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to: mime-version; bh=QSxrxBr0hnFWI2H4toQ8vCC6MOLecCVdpVW8fwDkbCE=; b=rDJNOvzC7BVKtK2Nfh93jXILw1k7WSf1X96z/h5LeJWJtSj1TeSTug5Y qmNGtjj3dH51+CgLT7kFpQw91YBBDWR0ROIJqE2BJNnjiGBbUG4pnAykS XCGMU4VPwQcAEh/hH04LyWo2zvhAj6q482QSVC/qmDoee4rOLpVIuH9Nb paayu9eIb+lJWdeUofRKm1s5TWAwg056NeFeF4owHXabgpNvM7IxlJ4OW 5jr3oOlXI8V2+YNtRKTOmeQ0zldo1kA+PQLvYmLvONzDvIPuY7puCydvD 8NoCN6fccOoDwnIIRy32P1EZmV11OC3Y0LTGuq3rydYc4B4lQadsMhUEc Q==; Received: from q4de8psa04t.blf.telekom.de ([10.151.13.130]) by MAILOUT21.telekom.de with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA; 15 Dec 2016 17:59:57 +0100 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.33,352,1477954800"; d="scan'208,217";a="583922213" Received: from he101863.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([10.134.226.51]) by Q4DE8PSA04V.blf.telekom.de with ESMTP/TLS/AES256-SHA; 15 Dec 2016 17:59:57 +0100 Received: from HE101865.EMEA1.cds.t-internal.com (10.134.226.53) by HE101863.emea1.cds.t-internal.com (10.134.226.51) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1236.3; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 17:59:56 +0100 Received: from HE101865.EMEA1.cds.t-internal.com ([fe80::dd2:a4e5:ad9f:a1a2]) by HE101865.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([fe80::dd2:a4e5:ad9f:a1a2%25]) with mapi id 15.00.1236.000; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 17:59:57 +0100 From: To: , Thread-Topic: WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk Thread-Index: AdJMgwLlREAe2xjrSc2YnpyqJ2k9igKaYdkg Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 16:59:57 +0000 Message-ID: <46b031dc16ed4283ba4a4516ffa436d8@HE101865.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: de-DE, en-US Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.176.222.92] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_46b031dc16ed4283ba4a4516ffa436d8HE101865emea1cdstintern_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 17:00:06 -0000 --_000_46b031dc16ed4283ba4a4516ffa436d8HE101865emea1cdstintern_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Support - but, I see an important purpose ("mission") of this draft in help= ing to sort out if, and to what extent, MW modeling work proposed in CCAMP = might overlap with Microwave/Millimeterwave Interface modelling work alread= y ongoing in the industry. As mentioned in the draft, ONF has specified a MW information model, driven= by operator uses cases, which is also sustained by proof-of-concept implem= entation/validation of the specifications in an open and collaborative appr= oach. >From other technology domains (e.g. OTN, DWDM), it is my understanding that= CCAMP develops specifications on basis of and in reference to existing (pr= otocol neutral) information models and doesn't start blank sheet with (tech= nology-specific) data models or control plane extensions for non-IETF defin= ed data plane technologies. If CCAMP decided to adopt this draft, there should be coordination with ONF= , incl. the relationship to, dependency between, and use of the ONF MW info= rmation model. This will be of key importance to avoid complexity and indus= try fragmentation (i.e. a disservice to the industry) going forward. Thanks, Manuel From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Fatai Zhang Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 11:01 AM To: 'CCAMP' Subject: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk Hi all, This starts a two weeks poll on making [draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk-00] a CCAMP w= orking group document. Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not suppor= t". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If yes,= please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once= the document is a WG document. Please note that no IPR was disclosed against this document currently. The poll ends on Friday December 16th. Thanks Fatai & Daniele --_000_46b031dc16ed4283ba4a4516ffa436d8HE101865emea1cdstintern_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Support – but, I see an important purpose ("mission&qu= ot;) of this draft in helping to sort out if, and to what extent, MW modeli= ng work proposed in CCAMP might overlap with Microwave/Millimeterwave Interface modelling work already ongoing in the industry.

 

As mentioned in the draft, ONF has specified a MW information mod= el, driven by operator uses cases, which is also sustained by proof-of-conc= ept implementation/validation of the specifications in an open and collaborative approach.

 

From other technology domains (e.g. OTN, DWDM), it is my understa= nding that CCAMP develops specifications on basis of and in reference to ex= isting (protocol neutral) information models and doesn’t start blank sheet with (technology-specific) data= models or control plane extensions for non-IETF defined data plane technol= ogies.

 

If CCAMP decided to adopt this draft, there should be coordinatio= n with ONF, incl. the relationship to, dependency between, and use of the O= NF MW information model. This will be of key importance to avoid complexity and industry fragmentation (i.e. a d= isservice to the industry) going forward.

Thanks,
Manuel

 

From: CCAMP [mailt= o:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Fatai Zhang
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 11:01 AM
To: 'CCAMP'
Subject: [CCAMP] WG ado= ption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk

 =

Hi all,

 

This starts a two weeks poll o= n making [draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk-00] a CCAMP working group document.

 

Plea= se send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do= not support".

If i= ndicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If yes, ple= ase also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the= document is a WG document.

 

Please note that no IPR was di= sclosed against this document currently.

 

The poll ends on Friday Decemb= er 16th.

 

Thanks

Fatai & Daniele

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boundary="_000_AM3PR06MB1379E656C9905E6957A590469E9D0AM3PR06MB1379eurp_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: telefonica.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 15 Dec 2016 18:33:16.3378 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 9744600e-3e04-492e-baa1-25ec245c6f10 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: AM3PR06MB1378 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 18:33:24 -0000 --_000_AM3PR06MB1379E656C9905E6957A590469E9D0AM3PR06MB1379eurp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Yes / support (as co-author) I fully agree with Manuel's perspective on avoiding fragmentation, key targ= et for operators. We should not reinvent the wheel, especially when it is d= emonstrated the validity, viability, and wide support of the existing work = e.g., in the ONF. For future steps we should ensure that follow what is exp= licitly stated on this framework document about addressing gaps, avoiding i= nefficient overlapping. For that, the coordination mentioned by Manuel seems to be key. Best regards Luis De: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] En nombre de Manuel.Paul@telekom.= de Enviado el: jueves, 15 de diciembre de 2016 18:00 Para: zhangfatai@huawei.com; ccamp@ietf.org Asunto: Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk Support - but, I see an important purpose ("mission") of this draft in help= ing to sort out if, and to what extent, MW modeling work proposed in CCAMP = might overlap with Microwave/Millimeterwave Interface modelling work alread= y ongoing in the industry. As mentioned in the draft, ONF has specified a MW information model, driven= by operator uses cases, which is also sustained by proof-of-concept implem= entation/validation of the specifications in an open and collaborative appr= oach. >From other technology domains (e.g. OTN, DWDM), it is my understanding that= CCAMP develops specifications on basis of and in reference to existing (pr= otocol neutral) information models and doesn't start blank sheet with (tech= nology-specific) data models or control plane extensions for non-IETF defin= ed data plane technologies. If CCAMP decided to adopt this draft, there should be coordination with ONF= , incl. the relationship to, dependency between, and use of the ONF MW info= rmation model. This will be of key importance to avoid complexity and indus= try fragmentation (i.e. a disservice to the industry) going forward. Thanks, Manuel From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Fatai Zhang Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 11:01 AM To: 'CCAMP' Subject: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk Hi all, This starts a two weeks poll on making [draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk-00] a CCAMP w= orking group document. Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not suppor= t". If indicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If yes,= please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once= the document is a WG document. Please note that no IPR was disclosed against this document currently. The poll ends on Friday December 16th. Thanks Fatai & Daniele --_000_AM3PR06MB1379E656C9905E6957A590469E9D0AM3PR06MB1379eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all,

 

Yes / support (as co-author)

 

I fully agree with Manuel’s pers= pective on avoiding fragmentation, key target for operators. We should not = reinvent the wheel, especially when it is demonstrated the validity, viability, and wide support of the existing work e.g., in th= e ONF. For future steps we should ensure that follow what is explicitly sta= ted on this framework document about addressing gaps, avoiding inefficient = overlapping.

 

For that, the coordination mentioned b= y Manuel seems to be key.

 

Best regards

 

Luis

  

 

De: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] En nombre de Manuel.Paul@telekom.de
Enviado el: jueves, 15 de diciembre de 2016 18:00
Para: zhangfatai@huawei.com; ccamp@ietf.org
Asunto: Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk

 =

Support – but, I see an important purpose ("mission&qu= ot;) of this draft in helping to sort out if, and to what extent, MW modeli= ng work proposed in CCAMP might overlap with Microwave/Millimeterwave Interface modelling work already ongoing in the industry.

 

As mentioned in the draft, ONF has specified a MW information mod= el, driven by operator uses cases, which is also sustained by proof-of-conc= ept implementation/validation of the specifications in an open and collaborative approach.

 

From other technology domains (e.g. OTN, DWDM), it is my understa= nding that CCAMP develops specifications on basis of and in reference to ex= isting (protocol neutral) information models and doesn’t start blank sheet with (technology-specific) data= models or control plane extensions for non-IETF defined data plane technol= ogies.

 

If CCAMP decided to adopt this draft, there should be coordinatio= n with ONF, incl. the relationship to, dependency between, and use of the O= NF MW information model. This will be of key importance to avoid complexity and industry fragmentation (i.e. a d= isservice to the industry) going forward.

Thanks,
Manuel

 

From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Fatai Zhang
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 11:01 AM
To: 'CCAMP'
Subject: [CCAMP] WG ado= ption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk

 

Hi all,

 

This starts a two weeks poll o= n making [draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk-00] a CCAMP working group document.

 

Plea= se send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do= not support".

If i= ndicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If yes, ple= ase also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the= document is a WG document.

 

Please note that no IPR was di= sclosed against this document currently.

 

The poll ends on Friday Decemb= er 16th.

 

Thanks

Fatai & Daniele

&n= bsp;

&n= bsp;

 

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Regards JonasA From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jonas Ahlberg Sent: den 14 december 2016 08:42 To: 'LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO' ; 'Yemin (Amy' ; 'Marko.Vaupotic@Aviatnet.com' <= Marko.Vaupotic@Aviatnet.com>; 'jefftant.ietf@gmail.com' ; 'Koji Kawada' ; 'Ippei Akiyoshi (i-akiyoshi= @ah.jp.nec.com) (i-akiyoshi@ah.jp.nec.com)' ; 'Xi= Li' ; 'Martin Skorupski (External' ; cjbc@it.uc3m.es; Rahman, Akbar Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] MDT meeting - YANG Data Model - December 15, 9:00-10:00 (C= ET) Hi all, This is the invite for the MDT meeting this week (tomorrow). We've have resolved most of the open issues and we now have a model coverin= g a complete scope for management of radio link interfaces. I suggest that we spend the meeting time on reviewing the model with the pu= rpose to get a new revision ready for submission. Agenda: * Review of updated model proposal o Default values Jonas to propose how to handle mandatory for rx-frequency according to XIs = suggestion to use a case statement. Xi/Koji to propose default value for transmitted-level-alarm-threshold. o TDM support OK, use the proposed model o Protection Working entity to be a list in order to support 1:n. Change name from pair to group to reflect that 1:n includes more than just = a pair of CTs. Make enum to identityref for protection-status in order to allow for implem= entation specific extensions. o Is rlts-1, rlts-2 and tlts-1 really required? Do not include in the model. If needed they can be introduced as a implementation specific extension. * AOB * Next Step o Compile a new version of the model (JonasA) Dec 16 o Check for validation tools that support RFC 7950 (and not limited to RF= C 6020)? 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Hi all,

 

See short MoM inline i= n the agenda below.

 

Regards

JonasA

 

 

From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] <= b>On Behalf Of Jonas Ahlberg
Sent: den 14 december 2016 08:42
To: 'LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO' <luismiguel.contrerasmurillo@= telefonica.com>; 'Yemin (Amy' <amy.yemin@huawei.com>; 'Marko.Vaupo= tic@Aviatnet.com' <Marko.Vaupotic@Aviatnet.com>; 'jefftant.ietf@gmail= .com' <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>; 'Koji Kawada' <k-kawada@ah.jp.nec= .com>; 'Ippei Akiyoshi (i-akiyoshi@ah.jp.nec.com) (i-akiyoshi@ah.jp.nec.com)' <= ;i-akiyoshi@ah.jp.nec.com>; 'Xi Li' <Xi.Li@neclab.eu>; 'Martin Sko= rupski (External' <martin.skorupski.external@telefonica.com>; cjbc@it= .uc3m.es; Rahman, Akbar <Akbar.Rahman@InterDigital.com>
Cc: ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: [CCAMP] MDT meeting - YANG Data Model - December 15, 9:00-1= 0:00 (CET)

 

Hi all,

 

This is the invite for the MDT meeting this week (to= morrow).

 

We’ve have resolved most of the open issues and we n= ow have a model covering a complete scope for management of radio link inte= rfaces.

I suggest that we spend the meeting time on reviewin= g the model with the purpose to get a new revision ready for submission.

 

Agenda:

·         Review of updated model proposal<= /p>

o   Default values=
Jonas to propose how to handle mandatory for rx-frequency according to XIs = suggestion to use a case statement.
Xi/Koji to propose default value for transmitted-level-alarm-threshold.

o   TDM support OK, use the proposed model

o   Protection
Working entity to be a list in order to support 1:n.
Change name from pair to group to reflect that 1:n includes more than just = a pair of CTs.
Make enum to identityref for protection-status in order to allow for implem= entation specific extensions.

o   Is rlts-1, rlts-2 and tlts-1 really required= ?
Do not include in the model.
If needed they can be introduced as a implementation specific extension.

·         AOB=

·         Next Step=

o   Compile a new = version of the model (JonasA) Dec 16

o   Check for vali= dation tools that support RFC 7950 (and not limited to RFC 6020)? (Xi)=

o   Create a new v= ersion of the draft document (Amy) Before Thursday Dec 22=

o   After that, re= view on next meeting Dec 22 & submission Dec 23

 

 

Regards

/JonasA

 

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Hi Manuel and= Luis,

 

Thanks for your suggestion.

 

I agree that the coordination with other SDOs is very important.

 

CCAMP has good coordination with ITU-T SG15 and I think we can fo= llow the same approach with other SDOs.

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=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO [mailto:luism= iguel.contrerasmurillo@telefonica.com]
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=D6=F7=CC=E2: RE: WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk

 

Hi all,

 

Yes / support (as co-author)

 

I fully agree with Manuel=A1=AFs perspective on avoiding fragment= ation, key target for operators. We should not reinvent the wheel, especial= ly when it is demonstrated the validity, viability, and wide support of the existing work e.g., in the ONF. For future steps w= e should ensure that follow what is explicitly stated on this framework doc= ument about addressing gaps, avoiding inefficient overlapping.

 

For that, the coordination mentioned by Manuel seems to be key.

 

Best regards

 

Luis

  

 

De: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] En nombre de Manuel.Paul@t= elekom.de
Enviado el: jueves, 15 de diciem= bre de 2016 18:00
Para: zhangfatai@huawei.com= ; ccamp@ietf.org
Asunto: Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk

 

Support =A8C but, I see an important purpose ("mission"= ) of this draft in helping to sort out if, and to what extent, MW modeling = work proposed in CCAMP might overlap with Microwave/Millimeterwave Interface modelling work already ongoing in the industry.

 

As mentioned in the draft, ONF has specified a MW information mod= el, driven by operator uses cases, which is also sustained by proof-of-conc= ept implementation/validation of the specifications in an open and collaborative approach.

 

From other technology domains (e.g. OTN, DWDM), it is my understa= nding that CCAMP develops specifications on basis of and in reference to ex= isting (protocol neutral) information models and doesn=A1=AFt start blank sheet with (technology-specific) data = models or control plane extensions for non-IETF defined data plane technolo= gies.

 

If CCAMP decided to adopt this draft, there should be coordinatio= n with ONF, incl. the relationship to, dependency between, and use of the O= NF MW information model. This will be of key importance to avoid complexity and industry fragmentation (i.e. a d= isservice to the industry) going forward.

Thanks,
Manuel

 

From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Fatai Zhang
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 11:01 AM
To: 'CCAMP'
Subject: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk

 

Hi all,

 

This starts a two weeks poll o= n making [draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk-00] a CCAMP working group document.

 

Plea= se send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do= not support".

If i= ndicating no, please state your reservations with the document. If yes, ple= ase also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once the= document is a WG document.

 

Please note that no IPR was di= sclosed against this document currently.

 

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From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Fatai Zhang
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 11:01 AM
To: 'CCAMP'
Subject: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk

 

Hi all,

 

This starts a two weeks poll o= n making [draft-mwdt-ccamp-fmwk-00] a CCAMP working group document.

 

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[127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4FD312953F; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 01:53:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XlQLgWMaPrJx; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 01:53:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailex.mailcore.me (mailex.mailcore.me [94.136.40.143]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC427129D92; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 01:51:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [176.25.239.71] (helo=[192.168.0.4]) by smtp04.mailcore.me with esmtpa (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1cJH5E-0000L7-S4; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 09:51:47 +0000 From: Ben Niven-Jenkins Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 09:51:43 +0000 Message-Id: <1F5E908C-FD95-4151-822F-7D3859D7B173@niven-jenkins.co.uk> To: rtg-ads@ietf.org, draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext.all@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-Mailcore-Auth: 9600544 X-Mailcore-Domain: 172912 X-KLMS-Rule-ID: 1 X-KLMS-Message-Action: clean X-KLMS-AntiSpam-Status: not scanned, license restriction X-KLMS-AntiPhishing: not scanned, license restriction X-KLMS-AntiVirus: Kaspersky Security 8.0 for Linux Mail Server, version 8.0.1.721, bases: 2016/12/20 05:32:00 #8579307 X-KLMS-AntiVirus-Status: Clean, skipped Archived-At: Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org, ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-07.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 09:53:08 -0000 Hello, I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. = The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related = drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and = sometimes on special request. The purpose of the review is to provide = assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing = Directorate, please see = =E2=80=8Bhttp://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it = would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF = Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through = discussion or by updating the draft. Document: draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-07.txt=20 Reviewer: Ben Niven-Jenkins Review Date: 20th Dec 2016 Intended Status: Standards Track Summary: No issues found. This document is ready for publication. Comments: The document is well written and straightforward to read. Major Issues: No major issues found. Minor Issues: No minor issues found. Nits: Abstract: s/know/known/ Section 3.3: s/thus/this/ Thanks Ben From nobody Tue Dec 20 05:56:18 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietf.org Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D3F12973A; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 05:56:16 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "\"IETF Meeting Session Request Tool\"" To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.40.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <148224217677.23809.4648786547136408284.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 05:56:16 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: ccamp@ietf.org, ccamp-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] ccamp - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 98 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 13:56:17 -0000 A new meeting session request has just been submitted by Daniele Ceccarelli, a Chair of the ccamp working group. --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Common Control and Measurement Plane Area Name: Routing Area Session Requester: Daniele Ceccarelli Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 1.5 Hours Number of Attendees: 50 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: teas pce rtgarea netmod mpls detnet Second Priority: idr pals sfc spring netconf Third Priority: bess i2rs isis ospf Special Requests: --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Tue Dec 20 06:35:06 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E92F12998D for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 06:35:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.32 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.32 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-3.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RbKwLHnpfAew for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 06:35:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CCA7F129982 for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 06:34:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml708-cah.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id CXK67107; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 14:34:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML504-MBS.china.huawei.com ([10.125.30.107]) by lhreml708-cah.china.huawei.com ([10.201.5.202]) with mapi id 14.03.0301.000; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 14:34:43 +0000 From: Italo Busi To: "CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org)" Thread-Topic: Minutes of the Transport NBI DT kick-off call: December 14, 2016 Thread-Index: AdJazjEBe8w8+xDWTuW5khFXnVWoEA== Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 14:34:43 +0000 Message-ID: <91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B156DEF0C@lhreml504-mbs> Accept-Language: it-IT, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.203.246.104] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B156DEF0Clhreml504mbs_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A020203.5859418A.059E, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: 9235c018eb7e12026f71ba4f0ff8e4f3 Archived-At: Subject: [CCAMP] Minutes of the Transport NBI DT kick-off call: December 14, 2016 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 14:35:05 -0000 --_000_91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B156DEF0Clhreml504mbs_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wednesday 14th December Attendees: Carlo, Haomian, Karthik, Italo, Luis, Michael, Monali, Oscar, Se= rgio, Rod, Xiang, Yuji Objectives: Review of the DT charter and deliverables from CCAMP WG chairs. Topics of discussion: - Identifying a list of use cases of interest: we would then start= focusing on 2 or 3 use case to start analyzing in details; - Use uses for multi-operator supporting an end-to-end service: co= uld be considered in the list of use cases (priority for detailed analysis = to be further discussed) - Use cases analyzed in https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-zhang-cc= amp-transport-yang-gap-analysis-01 (Sergio presented). Slides presented are= available on https://github.com/danielkinguk/transport-nbi/blob/master/Mee= tings/2016-12-14/Gap%20Analysis-%20Recap%20what's%20been%20discussed%20(Xia= n%20%26%20Sergio)-revised.pptx Questions about Use Case 1 (UC#1): * Clarify whether this use case is describing an ODU terminated bet= ween R1 and R2 or an EPL service between R1 and R2 supported by an ODU betw= een NE-A and NE-B * Clarify why there are different TPs supporting TP in slide 7 * Clarify also the relationship with the TE Topology Need to further discuss if the OTN topology is an augmentation of the I2RS = or of the TE Topology. The current CCAMP I-D is assuming it is an augmentat= ion of the TE Topology. What about MPLS? It seems both since MPLS can be with or without TE Questions about Use Case 2 (UC#2): * Not clear if the issue of having two nodes at different layers wi= thin the same topology is an issue only with the TE Topology or also with t= he I2RS Topology * There is an alternative option for TL based a multi-layer topolog= y with multi-layer nodes with the connectivity matrix used to describe the = capabilities of layer transitions. This option will have the same drawbacks= of the second option with supporting multi-layer topologies. To be further= discussed Karthik/Italo will provide an overview of the ONF use cases next week During the discussion, it was requested that the IETF YANG models should su= pport important ONF requirements. Therefore, the DT would need to cooperate= with ONF in order to facilitate convergence in the industry toward a commo= n standard solution for Transport NBI. Next Call: December 21st, 3-5pm CET Daniel and Italo --_000_91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B156DEF0Clhreml504mbs_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Date: Wednesday 14th December

Attendees: Carlo, Haomian, Karthik, Italo, Luis, Mic= hael, Monali, Oscar, Sergio, Rod, Xiang, Yuji

Objectives: Review of the DT charter and deliverable= s from CCAMP WG chairs.

Topics of discussion:

-       = ;   Identifying a list of use cases of interest: we wou= ld then start focusing on 2 or 3 use case to start analyzing in details;

-       = ;   Use uses for multi-operator supporting an end-to-en= d service: could be considered in the list of use cases (priority for detai= led analysis to be further discussed)

-       = ;   Use cases analyzed in https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-zhang-ccamp-transport-yang-gap-analysis-0= 1 (Sergio presented). Slides presented are available on https://github.com/danielkinguk/transport-nbi/blob/master/Meetings/2016-12-= 14/Gap%20Analysis-%20Recap%20what's%20been%20discussed%20(Xian%20%26%20Serg= io)-revised.pptx

Questions about Use Case 1 (UC#1):

·         Clarify whether this use case is describing = an ODU terminated between R1 and R2 or an EPL service between R1 and R2 sup= ported by an ODU between NE-A and NE-B

·         Clarify why there are different TPs supporti= ng TP in slide 7

·         Clarify also the relationship with the TE To= pology

Need to further discuss if the OTN topology is an au= gmentation of the I2RS or of the TE Topology. The current CCAMP I-D is assu= ming it is an augmentation of the TE Topology.

What about MPLS? It seems both since MPLS can be wit= h or without TE

Questions about Use Case 2 (UC#2):

·         Not clear if the issue of having two nodes a= t different layers within the same topology is an issue only with the TE To= pology or also with the I2RS Topology

·         There is an alternative option for TL based = a multi-layer topology with multi-layer nodes with the connectivity matrix = used to describe the capabilities of layer transitions. This option will ha= ve the same drawbacks of the second option with supporting multi-layer topologies. To be further discussed

Karthik/Italo will provide an overview of the ONF us= e cases next week

During the discussion, it was requested that the IET= F YANG models should support important ONF requirements. Therefore, the DT = would need to cooperate with ONF in order to facilitate convergence in the = industry toward a common standard solution for Transport NBI.

Next Call: December 21st, 3-5pm CET

Daniel and Italo

 

 

--_000_91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B156DEF0Clhreml504mbs_-- From nobody Tue Dec 20 06:40:26 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E911299FA for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 06:40:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.32 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.32 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-3.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AYmhvtqYgjrt for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 06:40:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC7A9129987 for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 06:39:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml706-cah.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id CXK67769; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 14:39:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML504-MBS.china.huawei.com ([10.125.30.107]) by lhreml706-cah.china.huawei.com ([10.201.5.182]) with mapi id 14.03.0301.000; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 14:39:09 +0000 From: Italo Busi To: "CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org)" Thread-Topic: Transport NBI DT kick-off call: December 21, 2016 (3-5pm CET) Thread-Index: AdJaztFXiWeVvDVYQx6T08KNFZntnQ== Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 14:39:09 +0000 Message-ID: <91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B156DEF23@lhreml504-mbs> Accept-Language: it-IT, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.203.246.104] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B156DEF23lhreml504mbs_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A020205.58594293.0164, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: 3b6d6cd167e61dfe89a80d69d0d96804 Archived-At: Subject: [CCAMP] Transport NBI DT kick-off call: December 21, 2016 (3-5pm CET) X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 14:40:26 -0000 --_000_91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B156DEF23lhreml504mbs_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is the invite for the Transport NBI DT meeting this week (tomorrow). Agenda: * Review of the open issues after the kick-off call * Presentation of ONF use cases Daniel and Italo Your UberConference information is below. Join the call: https://www.uberconference.com/italobusi Optional dial-in number: 724-320-0045 PIN: 74145 Please use Chrome if you wish to join the audio conference via Web --_000_91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B156DEF23lhreml504mbs_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This is the invite for the Transport NBI DT meeting = this week (tomorrow).

 

Agenda:

·         Review of the open issues after the kick-off= call

·         Presentation of ONF use cases

 

Daniel and Italo

 <= /p>

 

Your UberConference information is below.

Join the call: https://www.uberconference.com/italobusi

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Hi all,

 

This is the invite for the MDT meeting this week (to= morrow).

 

We’ve have resolved the open issues and we now have = a model covering a complete scope for management of radio link interfaces.<= o:p>

Amy has complied a document proposed to be submitted= to IETF by end of the week and I suggest that we spend the meeting time on= reviewing that document. See attachment.

 

Please try to read & review the document in adva= nce of the meeting, so that we have time for discussing & resolving the= comments/feedback at the meeting tomorrow.

 

Agenda:

·         Review of document proposed to be submitted = to IETF.

·         AOB

 

 

Regards

/JonasA

 

 

 

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AIkVDXLdG6Dcngsg83I4LdDoS7Wx2lZFba4W+Ykz9/hrJM/zJ0rT2pj955F08eghHZF0Xg== X-Received: by 10.28.13.144 with SMTP id 138mr15563861wmn.120.1482507777348; Fri, 23 Dec 2016 07:42:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from CIPHER ([81.141.255.229]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i132sm37496884wmf.14.2016.12.23.07.42.55 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 23 Dec 2016 07:42:56 -0800 (PST) Sender: Daniel King X-Google-Original-Sender: "Daniel King" From: To: "'CCAMP'" Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 15:42:53 -0000 Message-ID: <00e901d25d33$39a95680$acfc0380$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AdJdMo5Pk87rwYEmR9+d/xgXDjgKKQ== Content-Language: en-gb Archived-At: Cc: transport-nbi-dt@googlegroups.com, 'Italo Busi' Subject: [CCAMP] Minutes of the Transport NBI DT - December 21, 2016 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 15:43:01 -0000 Happy Holidays CCAMP'rs and Transport NBI list. Please find the minutes for this week's Transport NBI call below. They also accessible on our GitHub page: https://github.com/danielkinguk/transport-nbi/tree/master/Meetings/2016-12-2 1 BR, Dan. >> Date: 21 December 2016 Attendees: Italo Busi, Daniel King, Ricard Vilalta, Sergio Belotti, Young Lee, Carlo Perocchio, Karthik Sethuraman, Dieter Beller, Luis Miguel Contreras Murillo, Haomian Zheng, Jonathan Sadler, Yuji Tochio, Xiang YUN Agenda 1. Recap of the unofficial gap analysis group work 2. Overview of use cases from ONF 3. Any other business 1. Recap of the unofficial gap analysis group work (led by Sergio) We reviewed the current use cases: * Use Case 1: Single Topology (one domain and one layer) * Use Case 2: Multilayer/single domain Topology * Use Case 3: Single layer/multi-domain Topology Special mention of the mapping from Service/EVC to NRM Connections across different providers. This MEF slide is provided in the following file (slide 5): https://github.com/danielkinguk/transport-nbi/blob/master/Meetings/2016-12-2 1/Gap%20Analysis-%20Recap%20what's%20been%20discussed%20(Xian%20%20Sergio)-r evised%20-%20updated.pptx Clarified (slides 6 and 7) that Use Case 1 can be split into two use cases: one where the ODU is terminated between CE routers and another where an EPL service, supported by an ODU terminated between the PEs, is setup between the CE routers. OTU4 TPs removed (slide 6): still need to discuss the need for ODU4 and ODU2 supporting TPs shown in the slide. Current open issues (slide 8): 1. OTN Topology type defined in L1Topology 2. NE Type and Version should be optional. Cleaner solution is to have NE capability, e.g. ODU hierarchy, Mux levels, etc. in a OTN TE Topology model 3. Generic attributes (including LayerProtocol) should be added to the augmented Transport Model [Slide 5] general discussion on which model do we augment: TEAS, OTN, I2RS, et al? Should we constrain or make this implementation specific? 2. Overview of use cases from ONF Karthik presented the ONF T-API Multi-layer Multi-domain Topology and Connectivity example: https://github.com/danielkinguk/transport-nbi/blob/master/Meetings/2016-12-2 1/onf2016.303_TAPI_Multi-layer_Multi-D.02.pptx ONF TAPI Concepts include: * All T-API interaction between an API provider (e.g. SDN Controller) and an API Client (e.g. Application, Orchestrator or another SDN Controller) occur within a shared "Context" * T-API Context is defined by a set of ServiceEndPoints (and some policy) * T-API provider creates(provisions) one or more Connections in response to a successful * A T-API provider may expose one or more abstract Topology within the shared Context * A Topology is expressed in terms of Nodes and Links between them Specific Discussions on ONF Use Cases 1. [Slide 1] Young asked if the TAPI will use augmentations of the YANG models, and Karthik confirmed "Yes" this is the case. 2. [Slide 3] Dieter asked if there is a distinction between service end-points at the UNI and NNI? Yes, there are some distinctions, dependent on a domain service, and end-to-end service. 3. [Slide 4] Italo discussed how the Multi-domain controller will combine the abstract topologies for each domain environment: it is still an open point to clarify within ONF. 4. [Slide 10] Young asked if the model is assumed to be symmetrical. No. Also, a description of the Context Topology abstraction model is provided in the T-API 2.0 model document. 5. [Slide 20] Young highlighted that the multi-domain controller was concatenating views. The burden of path computation is very complex on the multi-domain controller, as the domain controller will expose internal topology and not perform the computation itself. Karthik mentioned that this would support both expose physical connectivity or abstracting, to minimise complexity on the multi-domain controller. Italo noted that this could be additional scenarios to those described by Sergio covering the multi-domain and multi-layer use case, perhaps also with and without domain abstraction (based on Young's earlier comments). In summary, we saw one additional use case for inclusion on the current NBI DT use case pack (this will be use case 4). We will agree offline and update the slides to reflect all four scenarios. 3. 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Thu, 29 Dec 2016 03:37:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jouni Korhonen To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.40.3 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <148301142294.30186.10194015267309581145.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 03:37:02 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-extension.all@ietf.org, ccamp@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] Review of draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-extension-08 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 11:37:03 -0000 Reviewer: Jouni Korhonen Review result: Ready I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed by the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please wait for direction from your document shepherd or AD before posting a new version of the draft. For more information, please see the FAQ at . Document: draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-availability-extension-?? Reviewer: Jouni Korhonen Review Date: 2016-12-29 IETF LC End Date: 2016-10-24 IESG Telechat date: 2017-02-16 Summary: Ready for publication. Major issues: None. Minor issues: None. Nits/editorial comments: I reviewed -07 version of the document. The issue I raised back then has been addressed in an adequate level. There are still editorial nits in the document like: * Section 2: "include a< availability, bandwidth> information list in its OSPF" where the "a<" is somewhat confusing.. * Section 2: "node(s).The setup" which misses a space. However, these nits and alike can be corrected by the RFC Editor.