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The contact list has i-d draft authors; suggest editors The description clause copyright statement is incomplete. The description clause lacks a statement as to which RFC this comes from. The revision should say 'Initial revision' Add an RFC editor note to replace the dates (plural) The case of xxxx varies; suggest making it XXXX and adding note to the RFC Editor to replace occurrences thereof. Some in the YANG module might get missed (and some authors use xxxx to mean one thing and XXXX for something else:-). import ietf-interface-protection add a reference; in the RFC it may be obvious where this can be found but when the YANG module is extracted and on its own, there will be hundreds of potential RFC to choose from import iana-if-type Again I would add a reference - I know, it is well known but I am fan of stating the obvious in a technical document import ietf-yang-types ditto You reference rfc7223bis Suggest adding a note to the RFC Editor to replace this with the number assigned to that when it becomes an RFC; the RFC Editor has asked for such a note. ETSI References need more work. The YANG module has references to ETSI TR 102 311 ETSI EN 302 217-1 ETSI EN 301 129 all of which should appear in the Normative References of the I-D and none of which do; and they then need to appear in the text part of the I-D lest they are flagged as unused references You do have EN 302 217-2 [EN302217-2] but that is a different version:-) And there is a general problem; the reference clause uses ETSI EN 302 217-1 whereas the existing Reference for EN302217-2 drops the ETSI and drops the spaces; obviously the same? May be. So I think you should include a paragraph, or table, perhaps as Section 4.1 saying something like " This module imports typedefs from [RFC6991] and [RFC7223bis], .... and it references ETSI TR 102 311 [TR102311] ETSI EN 302 217-1 [EN302217-1] ETSI EN 301 129 [EN301129] " which is the sort of thing that draft-ietf-netmod-rfc7277bis does. reference "ITU-T G.826"; reference "ITU-T Rec. G.808.1"; ditto (and perhaps making the style the same, with or without Rec., even spelling it out ) Tom Petch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonas Ahlberg" To: Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 1:35 PM > Dear CCAMPers, > > The draft of the YANG Data Model for Microwave Radio Link has now been updated. > The structure, format and content of the document have been changed to adhere to "Guidelines for Authors and Reviewers of YANG Data Model Documents", draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis-15. > A few editorial changes of the actual yang models have also been done, but the structure and content remains however the same. > > In all, the authors believe the draft addresses all the comments and would like to ask for WG LC. > > BR, > JonasA (on behalf of the co-authors) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org > Sent: den 26 februari 2018 14:23 > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: ccamp@ietf.org > Subject: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03.txt > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane WG of the IETF. > > Title : A YANG Data Model for Microwave Radio Link > Authors : Jonas Ahlberg > Ye Min > Xi Li > Daniela Spreafico > Marko Vaupotic > Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03.txt > Pages : 44 > Date : 2018-02-26 > > Abstract: > This document defines a YANG data model for control and management > of the radio link interfaces, and their connectivity to packet > (typically Ethernet) interfaces in a microwave/millimeter wave node. > The data nodes for management of the interface protection > functionality is broken out into a separate and generic YANG data > model in order to make it available also for other interface types. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From nobody Fri Mar 2 11:02:37 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietf.org Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C0B12DA1D; Fri, 2 Mar 2018 11:02:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Liaison Statement Management Tool To: "Fatai Zhang" , "Daniele Ceccarelli" Cc: Deborah Brungard , Scott Mansfield , Fatai Zhang , Alvaro Retana , Alia Atlas , Daniele Ceccarelli , Common Control and Measurement Plane Discussion List , itu-t-liaison@iab.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.73.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152001735264.15791.17497865394963442366.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2018 11:02:32 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [CCAMP] New Liaison Statement, "LS - Initiation of approval process for G.8013/Y.1731 (2015) Corrigendum 1, revised G.8021/Y.1341, and new G.8023" X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2018 19:02:33 -0000 Title: LS - Initiation of approval process for G.8013/Y.1731 (2015) Corrigendum 1, revised G.8021/Y.1341, and new G.8023 Submission Date: 2018-03-02 URL of the IETF Web page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1563/ From: Hiroshi Ota To: Daniele Ceccarelli ,Fatai Zhang Cc: Deborah Brungard ,Scott Mansfield ,Fatai Zhang ,Alvaro Retana ,Alia Atlas ,Daniele Ceccarelli ,Common Control and Measurement Plane Discussion List ,itu-t-liaison@iab.org Response Contacts: Technical Contacts: Purpose: For information Body: Dear colleagues, We are pleased to inform you that at its 29 January-9 February 2018 plenary meeting, ITU-T SG15 has initiated the final approval processes for:  Corrigendum 1 to Recommendation ITU-T G.8013/Y.1731 (2015) “OAM functions and mechanisms for Ethernet based networks” (under the responsibility of Q10/15);  Revised Recommendation ITU-T G.8021/Y.1341 “Characteristics of Ethernet transport network equipment functional blocks” (under the responsibility of Q10/15); and  New Recommendation ITU-T G.8023 “Characteristics of equipment functional blocks supporting Ethernet physical layer and Flex Ethernet interfaces” (under the responsibility of Q11/15). o This new Recommendation specifies both the functional components and the methodology that should be used in order to specify the Ethernet physical layer interfaces (formerly specified in clauses 8 and 10 of Recommendation ITU-T G.8021/Y.1341) and Flex Ethernet interfaces. These documents are attached for your information. We would appreciate any comments you may have on these documents. ITU-T SG15 would like to express its appreciation for the continued useful exchange of information on Ethernet standards and looks forward to further interaction between our organizations. ITU-T Q10/15 meets next 8-19 October 2018 in Geneva, Switzerland. ITU-T Q11/15 meets next 4-8 June 2018 in Beijing, China. Attachments: TD166R1/P, TD156R1/P and TD152R1/P. Attachments: SG15-LS108 https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2018-03-02-itu-t-ccamp-ls-initiation-of-approval-process-for-g8013y1731-2015-corrigendum-1-revised-g8021y1341-and-new-g8023-attachment-1.pdf T17-SG15-180129-TD-PLEN-0152!R1!MSW-E https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2018-03-02-itu-t-ccamp-ls-initiation-of-approval-process-for-g8013y1731-2015-corrigendum-1-revised-g8021y1341-and-new-g8023-attachment-2.pdf T17-SG15-180129-TD-PLEN-0156!R1!MSW-E https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2018-03-02-itu-t-ccamp-ls-initiation-of-approval-process-for-g8013y1731-2015-corrigendum-1-revised-g8021y1341-and-new-g8023-attachment-3.pdf T17-SG15-180129-TD-PLEN-0166!R1!MSW-E https://www.ietf.org/lib/dt/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2018-03-02-itu-t-ccamp-ls-initiation-of-approval-process-for-g8013y1731-2015-corrigendum-1-revised-g8021y1341-and-new-g8023-attachment-4.pdf From nobody Fri Mar 2 11:07:35 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietf.org Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D85A124217; Fri, 2 Mar 2018 11:07:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Liaison Statement Management Tool To: "Fatai Zhang" , "Daniele Ceccarelli" Cc: Deborah Brungard , Scott Mansfield , Fatai Zhang , Alvaro Retana , Alia Atlas , Daniele Ceccarelli , Common Control and Measurement Plane Discussion List , itu-t-liaison@iab.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.73.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152001765409.15707.3429760810574513976.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2018 11:07:34 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [CCAMP] New Liaison Statement, "LS/r IETF CCAMP work on YANG Alarm Module Submission (reply to IETF-LS16 )" X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2018 19:07:34 -0000 Title: LS/r IETF CCAMP work on YANG Alarm Module Submission (reply to IETF-LS16 ) Submission Date: 2018-03-02 URL of the IETF Web page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1564/ From: Hiroshi Ota To: Daniele Ceccarelli ,Fatai Zhang Cc: Deborah Brungard ,Scott Mansfield ,Fatai Zhang ,Alvaro Retana ,Alia Atlas ,Daniele Ceccarelli ,Common Control and Measurement Plane Discussion List ,itu-t-liaison@iab.org Response Contacts: Technical Contacts: Purpose: For information Body: ITU-T Study Group 15 thanks IETF CCAMP WG for informing us about the adoption of a WG document https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-alarm-module-00 on “YANG Alarm Module” and requesting review on the module. ITU-T Study Group 15 has been working, with collaboration with the ONF OIMT Group, on a Core Information Model in Recommendation G.7711 (ONF TR-512). The Core IM is neutral to any transport technology and is specified in UML, which is neutral to any management/control interface protocol. The Core IM can be pruned/refactored to provide a purpose-specific IM and translated into YANG code by automated tooling (xmi2yang). The OAM functionality, including Fault Management (FM) and Performance Monitoring (PM) is an area being modelled in G.7711 (ONF TR-512). Regarding the alarm management, we would like to see the FM and PM modelling based on the same architecture, and to harmonize with the requirements in Recommendation G.7710. The YANG module should also allow transport technology specific augmentations. Regarding the scope of the YANG Alarm Module, the draft should explicitly state that the modeling of how transport resource alarms are raised and cleared by the underlying transport instrumentation is out of the scope of this draft. Specifically, the modelling of defect detection, defect coordination into fault cause, consequent action, persistency verification declaring fault cause as failure, and raising failure as alarm and its subsequent clearing should belong to the SDO/group that owns the transport technology. The alarm YANG draft adopts the X.733 alarm severities, but doesn’t support the function of alarm severity assignment (i.e., configuring the severity of an alarm type of a resource), i.e., the feature of the Alarm Severity Assignment Profile (ASAP) object of M.3160/M.3100 is not supported by the draft. Is this intended to be out of the scope of the alarm YANG draft? For alarm reporting control, the alarm YANG draft supports only the simple alarm shelf function. It doesn’t support the rich features of the Alarm Reporting Control (ARC) function of M.3160/M.3100, which is required by G.7710. We support the clear separation of resource alarm life-cycle from the operator and administrative life-cycle of an alarm. Listed below are specific comments from our review of the YANG Alarm Module 1. Section 4.2, paragraphs 5 & 6 discuss unknow alarm type at design time and dynamic addition of alarm types using string. Please note that the Spec Model approach of the Core Information Model (ITU-T Recommendation G.7711 Annex G) (also in ONF TR-512.7) provides a generic formal way to allow run time enhancement/decoration. 2. Section 4.4, first paragraph, second last sentence: Add “and alarm type qualifier” so that the sentence becomes “This means that alarm notifications for the same resource, same alarm type and same alarm type qualifier are matched to update the same alarm instance.” 3. Section 4.5: What is the relationship (dependency) among “alarm clearance”, “alarm closing”, and “alarm deleting”. Will administrative deleting automatically results in operator closing? Need more clarification among the three types of alarm life-cycle. Otherwise will cause inconsistent handling of alarm among different systems. 4. Section 4.5.1, first paragraph, second line: Editorial error: “change severity” occurs twice. We appreciate again for the chance to exchange information. We would like take this opportunity to inform IETF that we are currently working on a new draft Recommendation G.media-mgmt that describes the requirement and information & data model for transport media management. 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This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane WG of the IETF. Title : A YANG Data Model for Microwave Radio Link Authors : Jonas Ahlberg Ye Min Xi Li Daniela Spreafico Marko Vaupotic Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-04.txt Pages : 46 Date : 2018-03-03 Abstract: This document defines a YANG data model for control and management of the radio link interfaces, and their connectivity to packet (typically Ethernet) interfaces in a microwave/millimeter wave node. The data nodes for management of the interface protection functionality is broken out into a separate and generic YANG data model in order to make it available also for other interface types. 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We hope that we have addressed your comments in the 04 revision of the draf= t uploaded today. Thanks again, JonasA A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-04.txt has been successfully= submitted by Jonas Ahlberg and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang Revision: 04 Title: A YANG Data Model for Microwave Radio Link Document date: 2018-03-03 Group: ccamp Pages: 46 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-ya= ng-04.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-04 Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-y= ang-04 Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yan= g-04 Abstract: This document defines a YANG data model for control and management of the radio link interfaces, and their connectivity to packet (typically Ethernet) interfaces in a microwave/millimeter wave node. The data nodes for management of the interface protection functionality is broken out into a separate and generic YANG data model in order to make it available also for other interface types. -----Original Message----- From: t.petch [mailto:ietfc@btconnect.com]=20 Sent: den 1 mars 2018 12:06 To: Jonas Ahlberg ; ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03.txt Jonas Some administrative thoughts on the YANG in this I-D, most applying to bot= h YANG modules. The contact list has i-d draft authors; suggest editors The description clause copyright statement is incomplete. The description clause lacks a statement as to which RFC this comes from. The revision should say 'Initial revision' Add an RFC editor note to replace the dates (plural) The case of xxxx varies; suggest making it XXXX and adding note to the RFC = Editor to replace occurrences thereof. Some in the YANG module might= get missed (and some authors use xxxx to mean one thing and XXXX for somet= hing else:-). import ietf-interface-protection add a reference; in the RFC it may be obvious where this can be found but w= hen the YANG module is extracted and on its own, there will be hundreds of = potential RFC to choose from import iana-if-type Again I would add a reference - I know, it is well known but I am fan of s= tating the obvious in a technical document import ietf-yang-types ditto You reference rfc7223bis Suggest adding a note to the RFC Editor to replace this with the number ass= igned to that when it becomes an RFC; the RFC Editor has asked for such a n= ote. ETSI References need more work. The YANG module has references to ETSI TR= 102 311 ETSI EN 302 217-1 ETSI EN 301 129 all of which should appear in = the Normative References of the I-D and none of which do; and they then nee= d to appear in the text part of the I-D lest they are flagged as unused ref= erences You do have EN 302 217-2 [EN302217-2] but that is a different version:-) And there is a general problem; the reference clause uses ETSI EN 302 217-1 whereas the existing Reference for EN302217-2 drops the ETSI and drop= s the spaces; obviously the same? May be. So I think you should include a paragraph, or table, perhaps as Section 4.1 saying something like " This module imports typedefs from [RFC6991] and [RFC7223bis], .... and it references ETSI TR 102 311 [TR102311] ETSI EN 302 217-1 [EN302217-1] ETSI EN 301 129 [EN301129] " which is the sort of thing that draft-ietf-netmod-rfc7277bis does. reference "ITU-T G.826"; reference "ITU-T Rec. G.808.1"; ditto (and perhaps making the style the same, with or without Rec., even spelling= it out ) Tom Petch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonas Ahlberg" To: Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 1:35 PM > Dear CCAMPers, > > The draft of the YANG Data Model for Microwave Radio Link has now been updated. > The structure, format and content of the document have been changed to adhere to "Guidelines for Authors and Reviewers of YANG Data Model Document= s", draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis-15. > A few editorial changes of the actual yang models have also been done, but the structure and content remains however the same. > > In all, the authors believe the draft addresses all the comments and would like to ask for WG LC. > > BR, > JonasA (on behalf of the co-authors) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org > Sent: den 26 februari 2018 14:23 > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: ccamp@ietf.org > Subject: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03.txt > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane WG of the IETF. > > Title : A YANG Data Model for Microwave Radio Link > Authors : Jonas Ahlberg > Ye Min > Xi Li > Daniela Spreafico > Marko Vaupotic > Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03.txt > Pages : 44 > Date : 2018-02-26 > > Abstract: > This document defines a YANG data model for control and management > of the radio link interfaces, and their connectivity to packet > (typically Ethernet) interfaces in a microwave/millimeter wave node. > The data nodes for management of the interface protection > functionality is broken out into a separate and generic YANG data > model in order to make it available also for other interface types. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.= org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From nobody Sat Mar 3 05:09:46 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B006A12778D for ; 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You have addressed almost all my comments (I was expecting more time to have another read - I am sure I had some typos which I have not found on a further read!) I still see ID-draft editors: in the contact clause which is true right now but which should become Editors: at some point. You have added a note the the RFC Editor for most but not quite all the uses of XXXX - the ones that might be added are in the IANA Requirements. (There are so many XXXX these days that some editors just put a blanket statement at the top rather than trying to flag each one). Requirements Language These days usually includes a reference to [RFC8174] - see for example draft-ietf-netmod-rfc7223bis Finally, the decimal point is represented in places with a period and in places with a comma; USA versus Europe perhaps. I am ok with it and suspect that this is a deliberate choice on your part and is probably the right choice for the technical content but might raise some comment. . Tom Petch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonas Ahlberg" To: "t.petch" ; Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2018 11:11 AM Hi Tom, Thank you very much for your review of the microwave yang draft. We hope that we have addressed your comments in the 04 revision of the draft uploaded today. Thanks again, JonasA A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-04.txt has been successfully submitted by Jonas Ahlberg and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang Revision: 04 Title: A YANG Data Model for Microwave Radio Link Document date: 2018-03-03 Group: ccamp Pages: 46 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-04.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-04 Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-04 Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-04 Abstract: This document defines a YANG data model for control and management of the radio link interfaces, and their connectivity to packet (typically Ethernet) interfaces in a microwave/millimeter wave node. The data nodes for management of the interface protection functionality is broken out into a separate and generic YANG data model in order to make it available also for other interface types. -----Original Message----- From: t.petch [mailto:ietfc@btconnect.com] Sent: den 1 mars 2018 12:06 To: Jonas Ahlberg ; ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03.txt Jonas Some administrative thoughts on the YANG in this I-D, most applying to both YANG modules. The contact list has i-d draft authors; suggest editors The description clause copyright statement is incomplete. The description clause lacks a statement as to which RFC this comes from. The revision should say 'Initial revision' Add an RFC editor note to replace the dates (plural) The case of xxxx varies; suggest making it XXXX and adding note to the RFC Editor to replace occurrences thereof. Some in the YANG module might get missed (and some authors use xxxx to mean one thing and XXXX for something else:-). import ietf-interface-protection add a reference; in the RFC it may be obvious where this can be found but when the YANG module is extracted and on its own, there will be hundreds of potential RFC to choose from import iana-if-type Again I would add a reference - I know, it is well known but I am fan of stating the obvious in a technical document import ietf-yang-types ditto You reference rfc7223bis Suggest adding a note to the RFC Editor to replace this with the number assigned to that when it becomes an RFC; the RFC Editor has asked for such a note. ETSI References need more work. The YANG module has references to ETSI TR 102 311 ETSI EN 302 217-1 ETSI EN 301 129 all of which should appear in the Normative References of the I-D and none of which do; and they then need to appear in the text part of the I-D lest they are flagged as unused references You do have EN 302 217-2 [EN302217-2] but that is a different version:-) And there is a general problem; the reference clause uses ETSI EN 302 217-1 whereas the existing Reference for EN302217-2 drops the ETSI and drops the spaces; obviously the same? May be. So I think you should include a paragraph, or table, perhaps as Section 4.1 saying something like " This module imports typedefs from [RFC6991] and [RFC7223bis], .... and it references ETSI TR 102 311 [TR102311] ETSI EN 302 217-1 [EN302217-1] ETSI EN 301 129 [EN301129] " which is the sort of thing that draft-ietf-netmod-rfc7277bis does. reference "ITU-T G.826"; reference "ITU-T Rec. G.808.1"; ditto (and perhaps making the style the same, with or without Rec., even spelling it out ) Tom Petch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonas Ahlberg" To: Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 1:35 PM > Dear CCAMPers, > > The draft of the YANG Data Model for Microwave Radio Link has now been updated. > The structure, format and content of the document have been changed to adhere to "Guidelines for Authors and Reviewers of YANG Data Model Documents", draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis-15. > A few editorial changes of the actual yang models have also been done, but the structure and content remains however the same. > > In all, the authors believe the draft addresses all the comments and would like to ask for WG LC. > > BR, > JonasA (on behalf of the co-authors) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org > Sent: den 26 februari 2018 14:23 > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: ccamp@ietf.org > Subject: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03.txt > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane WG of the IETF. > > Title : A YANG Data Model for Microwave Radio Link > Authors : Jonas Ahlberg > Ye Min > Xi Li > Daniela Spreafico > Marko Vaupotic > Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03.txt > Pages : 44 > Date : 2018-02-26 > > Abstract: > This document defines a YANG data model for control and management > of the radio link interfaces, and their connectivity to packet > (typically Ethernet) interfaces in a microwave/millimeter wave node. > The data nodes for management of the interface protection > functionality is broken out into a separate and generic YANG data > model in order to make it available also for other interface types. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From nobody Sun Mar 4 21:59:11 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B985E126CD6 for ; 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Maybe I was too quick, but I expect that we will get = more comments after our presentation/discussion at IETF101 and we plan for = a new submission after that. Then we will include your comments as well. On= ce again, thanks for your effort to review our draft. Regards JonasA -----Original Message----- From: t.petch [mailto:ietfc@btconnect.com]=20 Sent: den 3 mars 2018 14:07 To: Jonas Ahlberg ; ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03.txt Jonas That was quick. You have addressed almost all my comments (I was expectin= g more time to have another read - I am sure I had some typos which I have = not found on a further read!) I still see ID-draft editors: in the contact clause which is true right now but which should become Editors: at some point. You have added a note the the RFC Editor for most but not quite all the use= s of XXXX - the ones that might be added are in the IANA Requirements. (Th= ere are so many XXXX these days that some editors just put a blanket statem= ent at the top rather than trying to flag each one). Requirements Language These days usually includes a reference to [RFC8174] - see for example d= raft-ietf-netmod-rfc7223bis Finally, the decimal point is represented in places with a period and in pl= aces with a comma; USA versus Europe perhaps. I am ok with it and suspect t= hat this is a deliberate choice on your part and is probably the right choi= ce for the technical content but might raise some comment. . Tom Petch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonas Ahlberg" To: "t.petch" ; Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2018 11:11 AM Hi Tom, Thank you very much for your review of the microwave yang draft. We hope that we have addressed your comments in the 04 revision of the draf= t uploaded today. Thanks again, JonasA A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-04.txt has been successfully= submitted by Jonas Ahlberg and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang Revision: 04 Title: A YANG Data Model for Microwave Radio Link Document date: 2018-03-03 Group: ccamp Pages: 46 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-04.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-04 Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-04 Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-04 Abstract: This document defines a YANG data model for control and management of the radio link interfaces, and their connectivity to packet (typically Ethernet) interfaces in a microwave/millimeter wave node. The data nodes for management of the interface protection functionality is broken out into a separate and generic YANG data model in order to make it available also for other interface types. -----Original Message----- From: t.petch [mailto:ietfc@btconnect.com] Sent: den 1 mars 2018 12:06 To: Jonas Ahlberg ; ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03.txt Jonas Some administrative thoughts on the YANG in this I-D, most applying to bot= h YANG modules. The contact list has i-d draft authors; suggest editors The description clause copyright statement is incomplete. The description clause lacks a statement as to which RFC this comes from. The revision should say 'Initial revision' Add an RFC editor note to replace the dates (plural) The case of xxxx varies; suggest making it XXXX and adding note to the RFC = Editor to replace occurrences thereof. Some in the YANG module might= get missed (and some authors use xxxx to mean one thing and XXXX for somet= hing else:-). import ietf-interface-protection add a reference; in the RFC it may be obvious where this can be found but w= hen the YANG module is extracted and on its own, there will be hundreds of = potential RFC to choose from import iana-if-type Again I would add a reference - I know, it is well known but I am fan of s= tating the obvious in a technical document import ietf-yang-types ditto You reference rfc7223bis Suggest adding a note to the RFC Editor to replace this with the number ass= igned to that when it becomes an RFC; the RFC Editor has asked for such a n= ote. ETSI References need more work. The YANG module has references to ETSI TR= 102 311 ETSI EN 302 217-1 ETSI EN 301 129 all of which should appear in = the Normative References of the I-D and none of which do; and they then nee= d to appear in the text part of the I-D lest they are flagged as unused ref= erences You do have EN 302 217-2 [EN302217-2] but that is a different version:-) And there is a general problem; the reference clause uses ETSI EN 302 217-1 whereas the existing Reference for EN302217-2 drops the ETSI and drop= s the spaces; obviously the same? May be. So I think you should include a paragraph, or table, perhaps as Section 4.1 saying something like " This module imports typedefs from [RFC6991] and [RFC7223bis], .... and it references ETSI TR 102 311 [TR102311] ETSI EN 302 217-1 [EN302217-1] ETSI EN 301 129 [EN301129] " which is the sort of thing that draft-ietf-netmod-rfc7277bis does. reference "ITU-T G.826"; reference "ITU-T Rec. G.808.1"; ditto (and perhaps making the style the same, with or without Rec., even spelling= it out ) Tom Petch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonas Ahlberg" To: Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 1:35 PM > Dear CCAMPers, > > The draft of the YANG Data Model for Microwave Radio Link has now been updated. > The structure, format and content of the document have been changed to adhere to "Guidelines for Authors and Reviewers of YANG Data Model Document= s", draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis-15. > A few editorial changes of the actual yang models have also been done, but the structure and content remains however the same. > > In all, the authors believe the draft addresses all the comments and would like to ask for WG LC. > > BR, > JonasA (on behalf of the co-authors) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org > Sent: den 26 februari 2018 14:23 > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: ccamp@ietf.org > Subject: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03.txt > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane WG of the IETF. > > Title : A YANG Data Model for Microwave Radio Link > Authors : Jonas Ahlberg > Ye Min > Xi Li > Daniela Spreafico > Marko Vaupotic > Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03.txt > Pages : 44 > Date : 2018-02-26 > > Abstract: > This document defines a YANG data model for control and management > of the radio link interfaces, and their connectivity to packet > (typically Ethernet) interfaces in a microwave/millimeter wave node. > The data nodes for management of the interface protection > functionality is broken out into a separate and generic YANG data > model in order to make it available also for other interface types. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang/ > > There are also htmlized versions 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X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 17:57:51 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane WG of the IETF. Title : Information Model for Wavelength Switched Optical Networks (WSONs) with Impairments Validation Authors : Giovanni Martinelli Haomian Zhang Gabriele M. Galimberti Young Lee Fatai Zhang Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info-06.txt Pages : 19 Date : 2018-03-05 Abstract: This document defines an information model to support Impairment- Aware (IA) Routing and Wavelength Assignment (RWA) functionality. This information model extends the information model for impairment- free RWA process in WSON to facilitate computation of paths where optical impairment constraints need to considered. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info-06 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info-06 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info-06 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Mar 5 10:54:13 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietf.org Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A6212D86B; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 10:54:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: ccamp@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.74.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152027604816.14567.11362725289775470197@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 10:54:08 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-transport-nbi-app-statement-01.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 18:54:08 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane WG of the IETF. Title : Transport Northbound Interface Applicability Statement Authors : Italo Busi Daniel King Haomian Zheng Yunbin Xu Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-transport-nbi-app-statement-01.txt Pages : 43 Date : 2018-03-05 Abstract: Transport network domains, including Optical Transport Network (OTN) and Wavelength Division Multiplexing (WDM) networks, are typically deployed based on a single vendor or technology platforms. They are often managed using proprietary interfaces to dedicated Element Management Systems (EMS), Network Management Systems (NMS) and increasingly Software Defined Network (SDN) controllers. A well-defined open interface to each domain management system or controller is required for network operators to facilitate control automation and orchestrate end-to-end services across multi-domain networks. These functions may be enabled using standardized data models (e.g. YANG), and appropriate protocol (e.g., RESTCONF). This document analyses the applicability of the YANG models being defined by IETF (TEAS and CCAMP WGs in particular) to support OTN single and multi-domain scenarios. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-transport-nbi-app-statement/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-transport-nbi-app-statement-01 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-transport-nbi-app-statement-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ccamp-transport-nbi-app-statement-01 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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boundary="_000_85B4E2EDB9EA4445B4927E170E385558ciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [CCAMP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info-06.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2018 12:45:52 -0000 --_000_85B4E2EDB9EA4445B4927E170E385558ciscocom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ccamp, - draft refresh with editorial clean up - Xian stepped down as Editor, thx for all. Haomian new editor (welcome) Cheers G Begin forwarded message: From: > Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info-06.txt Date: 5 March 2018 at 18:57:50 CET To: Young Lee >, "Gabriele M. Galim= berti" >, Gabriele Galimberti= >, "Giovanni Martinelli" >, Haomian Zhang >, Fatai Zhang >, " zhenghaomian@huawei.com" > A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info-06.txt has been successfully submitted by Giovanni Martinelli and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info Revision: 06 Title: Information Model for Wavelength Switched Optical Networks (WSONs) w= ith Impairments Validation Document date: 2018-03-05 Group: ccamp Pages: 19 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-= iv-info-06.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-i= nfo/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info-0= 6 Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson= -iv-info-06 Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-wson-i= v-info-06 Abstract: This document defines an information model to support Impairment- Aware (IA) Routing and Wavelength Assignment (RWA) functionality. This information model extends the information model for impairment- free RWA process in WSON to facilitate computation of paths where optical impairment constraints need to considered. Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. The IETF Secretariat --_000_85B4E2EDB9EA4445B4927E170E385558ciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <020392C0C80043418075770E5991EF31@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ccamp,

- draft refresh with editorial clean up
- Xian stepped down as Editor, thx for all. Haomian new edi= tor (welcome)

Cheers
G 

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Subject: New Version Notification = for draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info-06.txt
Date: 5 March 2018 at 18:57:50 CET
To: Young Lee <ylee@huawei.com>, "Gabriele M. Galimberti&= quot; <ggalimbe@cisco.c= om>, Gabriele Galimberti <g= galimbe@cisco.com>, "Giovanni Martinelli" <giomarti@cisco.com>, Haomian Zh= ang <zhenghaomian@= huawei.com>, Fatai Zhang <zhang= .fatai@huawei.com>, " zhenghaomian@huawei.c= om" <zhen= ghaomian@huawei.com>


A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info-06.txt
has been successfully submitted by Giovanni Martinelli and posted to the IETF repository.

Name: draft-ietf-ccamp= -wson-iv-info
Revision: 0= 6
Title: Information Mod= el for Wavelength Switched Optical Networks (WSONs) with Impairments Valida= tion
Document date: 2018-03-05
Group: ccamp
Pages: 19
URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-wso= n-iv-info-06.txt
Status:         https:/= /datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info/
Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.o= rg/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info-06
Htmlized:       https://da= tatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info-06
Diff:           https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info= -06

Abstract:
  This document defines an information model to support Impairmen= t-
  Aware (IA) Routing and Wavelength Assignment (RWA) functionalit= y.
  This information model extends the information model for impair= ment-
  free RWA process in WSON to facilitate computation of paths whe= re
  optical impairment constraints need to considered.




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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Working group, This starts a two weeks poll on making draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-enco= de-09 a CCAMP working group document. Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not suppor= t" and a motivation for your reply, mandatory for the "not support" and ni= ce to have for the "support". Please note that the IPR declarations was carried out against version -08 a= nd this is version -09 but there is no change in the content of the documen= t, just a date refresh. No IPR was disclosed against this document. The polling will end on Tuesday march 20th. Thanks, Daniele & Fatai --_000_VI1PR07MB3167C76A7DAF19825148EDBCF0D90VI1PR07MB3167eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Working group,

 

This starts a two weeks poll on making  draft-martinelli-ccamp-w= son-iv-encode-09 a CCAMP working group document.

Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or &= quot;no/do not support" and a motivation for  your reply, mandatory for the "not support" and nice to have for the "s= upport".

Please note that the IPR declarations was carried out against version= -08 and this is version -09 but there is no change in the content of the document, just a date refresh. No IPR was = disclosed against this document.

The polling will end on Tuesday march 20th.

 

Thanks,

Daniele &= amp; Fatai

 

--_000_VI1PR07MB3167C76A7DAF19825148EDBCF0D90VI1PR07MB3167eurp_-- From nobody Tue Mar 6 09:42:39 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F02912946D for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2018 09:42:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.229 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.229 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, HK_RANDOM_FROM=1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aRJpoLGl83Fk for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2018 09:42:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 23ECE12895E for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2018 09:42:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhreml701-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.108]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 97BB85DFFF7C9; Tue, 6 Mar 2018 17:42:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.208.112.40) by lhreml701-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.42) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.382.0; Tue, 6 Mar 2018 17:42:33 +0000 Received: from SJCEML521-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.2.168]) by SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.3.93]) with mapi id 14.03.0382.000; Tue, 6 Mar 2018 09:42:28 -0800 From: Leeyoung To: Daniele Ceccarelli , "CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org)" Thread-Topic: Poll for adoption - draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-09 Thread-Index: AdO1ckOMQoQ5af8DTQ2CUCNPstp7iwAACvyA Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 17:42:27 +0000 Message-ID: <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173CFACDB1@sjceml521-mbs.china.huawei.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.218.137.166] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173CFACDB1sjceml521mbschi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for adoption - draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-09 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2018 17:42:37 -0000 --_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173CFACDB1sjceml521mbschi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes/support. Young (co-author) From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Daniele Ceccarelli Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 11:41 AM To: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) Subject: [CCAMP] Poll for adoption - draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-= 09 Working group, This starts a two weeks poll on making draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-enco= de-09 a CCAMP working group document. Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not suppor= t" and a motivation for your reply, mandatory for the "not support" and ni= ce to have for the "support". Please note that the IPR declarations was carried out against version -08 a= nd this is version -09 but there is no change in the content of the documen= t, just a date refresh. No IPR was disclosed against this document. The polling will end on Tuesday march 20th. Thanks, Daniele & Fatai --_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173CFACDB1sjceml521mbschi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes/support.

 

Young (co-author)=

 

From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] <= b>On Behalf Of Daniele Ceccarelli
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 11:41 AM
To: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) <ccamp@ietf.org>
Subject: [CCAMP] Poll for adoption - draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-= encode-09

 

Working g= roup,

&nbs= p;

This star= ts a two weeks poll on making  draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-0= 9 a CCAMP working group document.

Please se= nd email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not = support" and a motivation for  your reply, mandatory for the "not support" and nice to have for the "support&quo= t;.

Please no= te that the IPR declarations was carried out against version -08 and this i= s version -09 but there is no change in the content of the document, just a date refresh. No IPR was disclosed aga= inst this document.

The polli= ng will end on Tuesday march 20th.

&nbs= p;

Thanks,

Daniele & Fatai

 

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Thanks for the comment, good catch! We will make the shelf criteria list =93ordered-by user=94 and state = that the first matching item will shelf that alarm. Lets see about naming the leaf =93shelf" or "shelf-name". br Stefan and Martin Stefan Vallin stefan@wallan.se +46705233262 > On 27 Feb 2018, at 17:28, NICK HANCOCK = wrote: >=20 > Hi Stefan,=20 > =20 > In the module =91ietf-alarms@2018-02-01=92 included in = draft-ietf-ccamp-alarm-module-01, the leaf =91shelf-name=92 was added to = the list =91shelved-alarm=92 to reference the entry in the list =91shelf=92= that caused the alarm to be shelved. > However, since it is possible to define multiple shelfs, the criteria = of more than one shelf may apply to a given instance of an alarm. > =20 > For example, assume the criteria of shelf =91A=92 includes only the = resource =91R=92 and the criteria of another shelf =91B=92 only includes = the alarm-type-id =91X=92. The question in this case would be which = shelf should be referenced by the leaf =91shelf-name=92 for an alarm = instance where resource =3D R and alarm-type-id =3D X? Or maybe = =91shelf-name=92 should be a leaf-list? What are your thoughts on this? > =20 > And since the key to the list =91shelf=92 is =91name=92 and no unique = statements are used, it would be possible to define multiple shelfs with = exactly the same criteria. Again, if the criteria apply to an alarm, = which shelf should be referenced by the leaf =91shelf-name=92? > =20 > Would not the leaf also be better named just =91shelf=92? > =20 > Best regards > Nick --Apple-Mail=_2C649F81-2A25-46E6-8F82-5F10972CB68D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Hi!
Thanks for the comment, good = catch!
We will make the shelf criteria list = =93ordered-by user=94 and state that the first matching item will shelf = that alarm.

Lets= see about naming the leaf =93shelf" or "shelf-name".

br Stefan and = Martin

Stefan Vallin
stefan@wallan.se
+46705233262

On 27 Feb 2018, at 17:28, NICK HANCOCK <nick.hancock@adtran.com> wrote:

Hi Stefan, 
 
In the = module =91ietf-alarms@2018-02-01=92 included in = draft-ietf-ccamp-alarm-module-01, the leaf =91shelf-name=92 was added to = the list =91shelved-alarm=92 to reference the entry in the list =91shelf=92= that caused the alarm to be shelved.
However, since it is possible to define = multiple shelfs, the criteria of more than one shelf may apply to a = given instance of an alarm.
 
For example, assume the criteria of = shelf =91A=92 includes only the resource =91R=92 and the criteria of = another shelf =91B=92 only includes the alarm-type-id =91X=92. The = question in this case would be which shelf should be referenced by the = leaf =91shelf-name=92 for an alarm instance where resource =3D R and = alarm-type-id =3D X? Or maybe =91shelf-name=92 should be a leaf-list? = What are your thoughts on this?
 
And since the key to the list =91shelf=92= is =91name=92 and no unique statements are used, it would be possible = to define multiple shelfs with exactly the same criteria. Again, if the = criteria apply to an alarm, which shelf should be referenced by the leaf = =91shelf-name=92?
 
Would not the leaf also be better named just =91shelf=92?
 
Best = regards
Nick

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Thanks for the review! Happy to cooperate with ITU. See comments inline: Br Stefan and Martin > On 02 Mar 2018, at 20:07, Liaison Statement Management Tool = wrote: >=20 > Title: LS/r IETF CCAMP work on YANG Alarm Module Submission (reply to = IETF-LS16 ) > Submission Date: 2018-03-02 > URL of the IETF Web page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1564/ >=20 > From: Hiroshi Ota > To: Daniele Ceccarelli ,Fatai Zhang = > Cc: Deborah Brungard ,Scott Mansfield = ,Fatai Zhang = ,Alvaro Retana ,Alia = Atlas ,Daniele Ceccarelli = ,Common Control and Measurement Plane = Discussion List ,itu-t-liaison@iab.org > Response Contacts:=20 > Technical Contacts:=20 > Purpose: For information >=20 > Body: ITU-T Study Group 15 thanks IETF CCAMP WG for informing us about = the adoption of a WG document = https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-alarm-module-00 on =E2=80=9CY= ANG Alarm Module=E2=80=9D and requesting review on the module. Note that we have published a new version https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-alarm-module-01 >=20 > ITU-T Study Group 15 has been working, with collaboration with the ONF = OIMT Group, on a Core Information Model in Recommendation G.7711 (ONF = TR-512). The Core IM is neutral to any transport technology and is = specified in UML, which is neutral to any management/control interface = protocol. The Core IM can be pruned/refactored to provide a = purpose-specific IM and translated into YANG code by automated tooling = (xmi2yang). The OAM functionality, including Fault Management (FM) and = Performance Monitoring (PM) is an area being modelled in G.7711 (ONF = TR-512). >=20 > Regarding the alarm management, we would like to see the FM and PM = modelling based on the same architecture, and to harmonize with the = requirements in Recommendation G.7710. We have read G.7711 and see no FM requirements or models. Have we missed anything in here?=20 G.7710 provides Alarm Reporting Control, ARC, and=20 Alarm Severity Assignment Profile, ASAP. Our approach is to define a core Alarm YANG model in the IETF that is simple enough to get wide implementation support, and that can be augmented by other models. We have by design simplified/excluded=20 some of the ITU features in order to keep the ietf-alarms YANG module=20 small and simple.=20 See more details below.=20 We could consider to make a separate augmenting module = "itu-alarm-module=E2=80=9D that includes some of the more advanced ITU features.=20 That could also include moving the X733 mapping out of this draft and = place it in the "itu-alarm-module=E2=80=9D. > The YANG module should also allow transport technology specific = augmentations. That is the intention. That would mostly mean to define YANG identities = for the=20 technology specific alarm types. >=20 > Regarding the scope of the YANG Alarm Module, the draft should = explicitly state that the modeling of how transport resource alarms are = raised and cleared by the underlying transport instrumentation is out of = the scope of this draft. Specifically, the modelling of defect = detection, defect coordination into fault cause, consequent action, = persistency verification declaring fault cause as failure, and raising = failure as alarm and its subsequent clearing should belong to the = SDO/group that owns the transport technology. Ok, will add that in Section 1 Introduction >=20 > The alarm YANG draft adopts the X.733 alarm severities, but doesn=E2=80=99= t support the function of alarm severity assignment (i.e., configuring = the severity of an alarm type of a resource), i.e., the feature of the = Alarm Severity Assignment Profile (ASAP) object of M.3160/M.3100 is not = supported by the draft. Is this intended to be out of the scope of the = alarm YANG draft? Yes we have excluded that from being supported over the management=20 interface. This for several reasons:=20 1) Our experience is that the *management systems* will anyhow reassign severity/priority levels based on contextual information. A managed = system has very little contextual information on services, topology, = administrative state etc that would allow it to set the =E2=80=9Cfinal=E2=80=9D = severity level. Therefore the=20 ASP function is of little use. We did not see ASP being used based on=20 our practical experience on ITU M.3160/M.3100 systems. 2) Setting proper severity levels is probably more complex than what is offered by ASP, complex mechanism per alarm type and system is not covered by the simple alarm type (probable cause) - severity mapping.=20 This lends towards configurable severity levels being a local = configuration issue specific per system type and alarm type. 3) ASP makes the assumption that there is a 1-1 mapping between=20 alarm-type (probable cause) and severity level. That is not necessarily = true. AlarmSeverityAssignment ::=3D SEQUENCE {=20 problem ProbableCause,=20 severityAssignedServiceAffecting AlarmSeverityCode OPTIONAL, severityAssignedNonServiceAffecting AlarmSeverityCode OPTIONAL, severityAssignedServiceIndependent AlarmSeverityCode OPTIONAL } Assume a LOSS threshold, it makes perfect sense to have 3 thresholds, = each of them with a different severity. In our model that is one alarm type = =E2=80=9Closs=E2=80=9D and=20 an alarm can have a life-cycle (minor, major, critical, major, minor) = for example. This is one alarm-type =E2=80=9Closs=E2=80=9D. The benefit iof that is = for example that it is one=20 alarm rather than 3 in the alarm list (since probable cause/alarm type = is a key). The alarm severity assignment profile mechanism would force three alarm = types to be defined LOSS-threshold-1, LOSS-threshold-2 etc, each with separate=20= severity assignment. The above arguments for keeping ASAP out of the IETF alarm model. An ASAP mechanism could be defined in an augmenting module. it would look something like the shelf criteria in this draft: resource, = alarm-type,=20 alarm-qualifier-match and corresponding severity level. But, again the problem is alarm types with several severity levels. Any = thoughts on this? >=20 > For alarm reporting control, the alarm YANG draft supports only the = simple alarm shelf function. It doesn=E2=80=99t support the rich = features of the Alarm Reporting Control (ARC) function of M.3160/M.3100, = which is required by G.7710. This is by design. The shelf mechanism is simpler to understand,=20 implement and design. We are not convinced that ARC is required. It is a fairly complex model. Our experience has not shown real usage of ARC. For example, seehttps://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3878 is an ARC = MIB,=20 to our knowledge it is not widely spread. This said, a more advanced=20 ARC feature could be defined as an extension in the future. On a more philsophical perspective, rather than providing complex mechanisms for the management system to configure advanced filtering requirements we have formed strong requirements on alarm quality, see appendix F in version 01. This is how the process industry = has worked in order to address the alarm overload and alarm quality problem.=20 This puts the burden on the equipment/software vendor to implement=20 proper alarm instrumentation rather than pushing the problem to complex=20= configuration by the alarm manager. >=20 > We support the clear separation of resource alarm life-cycle from the = operator and administrative life-cycle of an alarm. Good :) >=20 > Listed below are specific comments from our review of the YANG Alarm = Module >=20 > 1. Section 4.2, paragraphs 5 & 6 discuss unknow alarm type at design = time and dynamic addition of alarm types using string. Please note that = the Spec Model approach of the Core Information Model (ITU-T = Recommendation G.7711 Annex G) (also in ONF TR-512.7) provides a generic = formal way to allow run time enhancement/decoration. G.7711 is a fairly generic UML extension approach. The use of alarm-qualifier is a specific mechanism to allow for dynamic alarm types which are included as key in the alarm list. Alarm-qualifier roughly matches X.733 specific-problem but with the=20 requirement that they must be published in the alarm inventory. >=20 > 2. Section 4.4, first paragraph, second last sentence: Add =E2=80=9Can= d alarm type qualifier=E2=80=9D so that the sentence becomes =E2=80=9CThis= means that alarm notifications for the same resource, same alarm type = and same alarm type qualifier are matched to update the same alarm = instance.=E2=80=9D We will clarify this >=20 > 3. Section 4.5: What is the relationship (dependency) among =E2=80=9Ca= larm clearance=E2=80=9D, =E2=80=9Calarm closing=E2=80=9D, and =E2=80=9Cala= rm deleting=E2=80=9D. Will administrative deleting automatically results = in operator closing? Need more clarification among the three types of = alarm life-cycle. Otherwise will cause inconsistent handling of alarm = among different systems. Alarm clearance is the resource life-cycle, the instrumentation clearing the alarm Alarm closing is the operator life-cycle, the alarm is not important from an operations perspective (might be cleared or not) Deleting and alarm means it is removed from the list and therefore has = no states=E2=80=A6 Will improve the text in this section to make this more clear >=20 > 4. Section 4.5.1, first paragraph, second line: Editorial error: = =E2=80=9Cchange severity=E2=80=9D occurs twice. That is a feature, not a bug :) " =46rom a resource perspective, an alarm can have the following life- cycle: raise, change severity, change severity, clear, being raised again etc=E2=80=9D The alarm list has the following structure: [resource, alarm-type-id, alarm-type-qualifier], [(time, severity, text, = cleared), (...), (...)] [link42, highUtilization,-](t1, warning, =E2=80=9C=E2=80=9D,-), (t2, = minor, =E2=80=9C=E2=80=9D, -),(t3, minor, =E2=80=9C=E2=80=9D, cleared) >=20 >=20 > We appreciate again for the chance to exchange information. We would = like take this opportunity to inform IETF that we are currently working = on a new draft Recommendation G.media-mgmt that describes the = requirement and information & data model for transport media management. > Attachments: >=20 > No document has been attached >=20 > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From nobody Wed Mar 7 08:03:15 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D93012D7E6 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 08:03:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.529 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.529 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id p4gh-sRTqHDK for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 08:03:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from alln-iport-7.cisco.com (alln-iport-7.cisco.com [173.37.142.94]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1AEFF1270AB for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 08:03:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=9033; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1520438586; x=1521648186; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:mime-version; bh=9cFLkw1QFCeBmHSfKw3i6LUO9BPoanzf1CG9zbVNwLU=; b=k05GSvC+GDj//V4HphiPYgFVCftYwzmfApvjrliZwvuBhmKhLiuPALBs y05yKsjlQJF4ZT/4qkmCfwKMSJ0ZRdmLO0BYFJb/E9Yiz1d5wP7G2Ypla 17FG10xcg24A7ygCul6Q4eRSXRPXkqApgFA9EgK4OZwqqRt7shN0hvxuc U=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0AwAgDxC6Ba/5ldJa1eGQEBAQEBAQEBA?= =?us-ascii?q?QEBAQcBAQEBAYJadmZwKAqbaYFbgT2PEYUjFIIBChgBCoUNAoMKITYWAQIBAQE?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQECayeFJAIEAQFlBwsQAgEIPwcnCxQRAQEEDgWEN2QQqwiEcoNyghwFhTGCL?= =?us-ascii?q?oFXgg8MgniDLgEBgT4BEgFVgwWCMgSaZwkCkH2BZ4Q3iFyRKgIRGQGBLQElAy5?= =?us-ascii?q?hcXAVOioBghiESHeJT4EigRgBAQE?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos; i="5.47,436,1515456000"; d="scan'208,217"; a="80047068" Received: from rcdn-core-2.cisco.com ([173.37.93.153]) by alln-iport-7.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 07 Mar 2018 16:03:05 +0000 Received: from XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com (xch-rcd-001.cisco.com [173.37.102.11]) by rcdn-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id w27G35sJ031404 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 7 Mar 2018 16:03:05 GMT Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com (173.37.102.11) by XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com (173.37.102.11) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1320.4; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 10:02:59 -0600 Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) by XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) with mapi id 15.00.1320.000; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 10:02:59 -0600 From: "Giovanni Martinelli (giomarti)" To: Daniele Ceccarelli CC: "CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org)" Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Poll for adoption - draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-09 Thread-Index: AdO1ckOMQoQ5af8DTQ2CUCNPstp7iwA7ckmA Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 16:02:59 +0000 Message-ID: <59230505-7D4E-4F26-8AC0-010BBB59E6DA@cisco.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.228.193.22] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_592305057D4E4F268AC0010BBB59E6DAciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for adoption - draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-09 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 16:03:14 -0000 --_000_592305057D4E4F268AC0010BBB59E6DAciscocom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yes/support as author Cheers G On 6 Mar 2018, at 18:41, Daniele Ceccarelli > wrote: Working group, This starts a two weeks poll on making draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-enco= de-09 a CCAMP working group document. Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not suppor= t" and a motivation for your reply, mandatory for the "not support" and ni= ce to have for the "support". Please note that the IPR declarations was carried out against version -08 a= nd this is version -09 but there is no change in the content of the documen= t, just a date refresh. No IPR was disclosed against this document. The polling will end on Tuesday march 20th. Thanks, Daniele & Fatai _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp --_000_592305057D4E4F268AC0010BBB59E6DAciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yes/support

as author

Cheers
G

On 6 Mar 2018, at 18:41, Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccarelli@erics= son.com> wrote:

Working group,

 

This starts a two weeks poll on making  draft-martinelli-ccamp= -wson-iv-encode-09 a CCAMP working group document.

Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or= "no/do not support" and a motivation for  your reply, manda= tory for the "not support" and nice to have for the "support= ".

Please note that the IPR declarations was carried out against versi= on -08 and this is version -09 but there is no change in the content of the= document, just a date refresh. No IPR was disclosed against this document.

The polling will end on = Tuesday march 20th.

 

Thanks,=

Daniele= & Fatai

 
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no/do not support

Reasoning: the definition of optical impairment parameters and the encoding of those is useless without the definition of a computational model for
optical impairment validation (IV) in the context of end-to-end path computation in a WDM network.
Computational models are typically vendor-specific and the draft does therefore not provide a solution to the problem of optical impairment validation
(computation of paths where optical impairment constraints need to considered.) The same applies to the related drafts addressing IV.


Thanks,
Dieter


On 06.03.2018 18:41, Daniele Ceccarelli wrote:

Working group,

This starts a two weeks poll on making draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-09 a CCAMP working group document.

Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support" and a motivation for your reply, mandatory for the "not support" and nice to have for the "support".

Please note that the IPR declarations was carried out against version -08 and this is version -09 but there is no change in the content of the document, just a date refresh. No IPR was disclosed against this document.

The polling will end on Tuesday march 20th.

Thanks,

Daniele & Fatai



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From nobody Fri Mar 9 01:43:58 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D224D12AF83 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 01:43:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.529 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.529 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id txfR0ivKXS9s for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 01:43:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com [173.37.86.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 409BE126C19 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 01:43:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=21539; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1520588635; x=1521798235; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:mime-version; bh=v4CdOHLJHpPD8NWBuX2PjulknJ8liFTOaF5sCAFU9P0=; b=iLXmzhcoH3fFuCmNF+SYtPPDVHNrD2lu9k/cRWVeYjwWLySl+vqwJWJe SrHJXjGSeL29eFWyrd88SxVo/hL6TDJDaYkMu5jHbSZhNjRLGxaF86oQr Y5/6NY05MutM6/ILEMvuFMKWR6LJVK9CzOckKGFtWU8scPQ2oNsRb6/RM 0=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0DXAAA0VqJa/4sNJK1eGQEBAQEBAQE?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQEBAQcBAQEBAYJadmZvKAqNZI13gxiUKhSCAQoYAQqFAgKDDyE0GAECAQE?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQEBAmsnhSQCBAEBZQcLEAIBCDgHBycLFBECBA4FG4QaZA+uX4Rxg3aCFQW?= =?us-ascii?q?FNoIugVaCD4MEgy4BAYE+ARIBVYMDgjIEmlUJApBngWOENIhKkSACERMBgSs?= =?us-ascii?q?BHjhhcXAVOioBghiESHeIRg0YB4EDgRcBAQE?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.47,444,1515456000"; d="scan'208,217";a="368482913" Received: from alln-core-6.cisco.com ([173.36.13.139]) by rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 09 Mar 2018 09:43:54 +0000 Received: from XCH-RCD-004.cisco.com (xch-rcd-004.cisco.com [173.37.102.14]) by alln-core-6.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id w299hsfB022302 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 9 Mar 2018 09:43:54 GMT Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com (173.37.102.11) by XCH-RCD-004.cisco.com (173.37.102.14) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1320.4; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 03:43:53 -0600 Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) by XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) with mapi id 15.00.1320.000; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 03:43:53 -0600 From: "Giovanni Martinelli (giomarti)" To: Dieter Beller CC: Daniele Ceccarelli , "CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org)" Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Poll for adoption - draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-09 Thread-Index: AQHTt4WdQoQ5af8DTQ2CUCNPstp7i6PIC80A Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2018 09:43:53 +0000 Message-ID: <9BB3A10E-CA3A-431D-90FA-4EFE2A928AED@cisco.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.228.192.34] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_9BB3A10ECA3A431D90FA4EFE2A928AEDciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for adoption - draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-09 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2018 09:43:57 -0000 --_000_9BB3A10ECA3A431D90FA4EFE2A928AEDciscocom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable agree on the fact that this comment apply to other drafts, rather than this= one, in particular: RFC6566 and draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info Cheers G On 9 Mar 2018, at 10:04, Dieter Beller > wrote: Hi all, no/do not support Reasoning: the definition of optical impairment parameters and the encoding= of those is useless without the definition of a computational model for optical impairment validation (IV) in the context of end-to-end path comput= ation in a WDM network. Computational models are typically vendor-specific and the draft does there= fore not provide a solution to the problem of optical impairment validation (computation of paths where optical impairment constraints need to consider= ed.) The same applies to the related drafts addressing IV. Thanks, Dieter On 06.03.2018 18:41, Daniele Ceccarelli wrote: Working group, This starts a two weeks poll on making draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-enco= de-09 a CCAMP working group document. Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not suppor= t" and a motivation for your reply, mandatory for the "not support" and ni= ce to have for the "support". Please note that the IPR declarations was carried out against version -08 a= nd this is version -09 but there is no change in the content of the documen= t, just a date refresh. No IPR was disclosed against this document. The polling will end on Tuesday march 20th. Thanks, Daniele & Fatai _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp --_000_9BB3A10ECA3A431D90FA4EFE2A928AEDciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable agree on the fact that this comment apply to other drafts, rather than this= one, in particular: RFC6566 and draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info

Cheers
G


On 9 Mar 2018, at 10:04, Dieter Beller <Dieter.Beller@nokia.com> wrote= :

Hi all,

no/do not support

Reaso= ning: the definition of optical impairment parameters and the encoding of those = is useless without the definition of a computational model for
optic= al impairment validation (IV) in the context of end-to-end path computation i= n a WDM network.
Compu= tational models are typically vendor-specific and the draft does therefore not provide a solution to the problem of optical impairment validation
(comp= utation of paths where optical impairment constraints need to considered.) The sam= e applies to the related drafts addressing IV.


Thank= s,
Diete= r


On 06.03.2018 18:41, Daniele Ceccarelli wrote:

Working group,

 

This starts a two weeks poll on making  draft-martinelli-ccamp= -wson-iv-encode-09 a CCAMP working group document.

Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or= "no/do not support" and a motivation for  your reply, manda= tory for the "not support" and nice to have for the "support= ".

Please note that the IPR declarations was carried out against versi= on -08 and this is version -09 but there is no change in the content of the= document, just a date refresh. No IPR was disclosed against this document.

The polling will end on = Tuesday march 20th.

 

Thanks,=

Daniele= & Fatai

 


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--_000_9BB3A10ECA3A431D90FA4EFE2A928AEDciscocom_-- From nobody Fri Mar 9 12:09:49 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 887F412D885 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 12:09:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.228 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.228 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, HK_RANDOM_FROM=1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zAIw9jlYWjyX for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 12:09:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F8EF12420B for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 12:09:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhreml701-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.108]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 757D21D46295D for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 20:09:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SJCEML702-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.208.112.38) by lhreml701-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.42) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.382.0; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 20:09:41 +0000 Received: from SJCEML521-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.2.168]) by SJCEML702-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.4.179]) with mapi id 14.03.0382.000; Fri, 9 Mar 2018 12:09:37 -0800 From: Leeyoung To: "Giovanni Martinelli (giomarti)" , Dieter Beller CC: "CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org)" Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] Poll for adoption - draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-09 Thread-Index: AdO1ckOMQoQ5af8DTQ2CUCNPstp7iwCVmfMAAAFhToAAAL8IgA== Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2018 20:09:37 +0000 Message-ID: <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173CFB054D@sjceml521-mbs.china.huawei.com> References: <9BB3A10E-CA3A-431D-90FA-4EFE2A928AED@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <9BB3A10E-CA3A-431D-90FA-4EFE2A928AED@cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.192.11.71] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173CFB054Dsjceml521mbschi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for adoption - draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-09 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2018 20:09:47 -0000 --_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173CFB054Dsjceml521mbschi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, The scope of this document is to enhance OSPF to carry LSA that includes im= pairment data. How to use these data is up to head end node or external PCE= to compute the path that is impairment-aware. RFC 6566 explains this context well. See Section 5 of RFC 6566 that discuss= es the computation models. Of course, the computation algorithm as to how t= o use impairment info is the secret source for each vendor, which is not wh= at we talk about in this draft. We only say these impairment data is needed= to enhance the RWA optical path calculation. Hope this explains. Thanks. Young From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Giovanni Martinell= i (giomarti) Sent: Friday, March 09, 2018 3:44 AM To: Dieter Beller Cc: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for adoption - draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-enc= ode-09 agree on the fact that this comment apply to other drafts, rather than this= one, in particular: RFC6566 and draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info Cheers G On 9 Mar 2018, at 10:04, Dieter Beller > wrote: Hi all, no/do not support Reasoning: the definition of optical impairment parameters and the encoding= of those is useless without the definition of a computational model for optical impairment validation (IV) in the context of end-to-end path comput= ation in a WDM network. Computational models are typically vendor-specific and the draft does there= fore not provide a solution to the problem of optical impairment validation (computation of paths where optical impairment constraints need to consider= ed.) The same applies to the related drafts addressing IV. Thanks, Dieter On 06.03.2018 18:41, Daniele Ceccarelli wrote: Working group, This starts a two weeks poll on making draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-enco= de-09 a CCAMP working group document. Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not suppor= t" and a motivation for your reply, mandatory for the "not support" and ni= ce to have for the "support". Please note that the IPR declarations was carried out against version -08 a= nd this is version -09 but there is no change in the content of the documen= t, just a date refresh. No IPR was disclosed against this document. The polling will end on Tuesday march 20th. Thanks, Daniele & Fatai _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp --_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173CFB054Dsjceml521mbschi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all,

 

The scope of this document is to enha= nce OSPF to carry LSA that includes impairment data. How to use these data = is up to head end node or external PCE to compute the path that is impairment-aware.

RFC 6566 explains this context well. = See Section 5 of RFC 6566 that discusses the computation models. Of course,= the computation algorithm as to how to use impairment info is the secret source for each vendor, which is not what we talk about= in this draft. We only say these impairment data is needed to enhance the = RWA optical path calculation.

 

Hope this explains.

 

Thanks.

Young

 

From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ie= tf.org] On Behalf Of Giovanni Martinelli (giomarti)
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2018 3:44 AM
To: Dieter Beller <Dieter.Beller@nokia.com>
Cc: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) <ccamp@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for adoption - draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson= -iv-encode-09

 

agree on the fact that this comment apply to other d= rafts, rather than this one, in particular: RFC6566 and draft-iet= f-ccamp-wson-iv-info

 

Cheers

G

 



On 9 Mar 2018, at 10:04, Dieter Beller <Dieter.Beller@nokia.com> wrote:<= o:p>

 

Hi all,

no/do not support

Reasoning: the definition of optical impai= rment parameters and the encoding of those is useless without the definitio= n of a computational model for
optical impairment validation (IV) in the = context of end-to-end path computation in a WDM network.
Computational models are typically vendor-= specific and the draft does therefore=  not p= rovide a solution to the problem of optical impairment validation
(computation of paths where optical impair= ment constraints need to considered.) The same applies to the related draft= s addressing IV.


Thanks,
Dieter


On 06.03.2018 18:41, Da= niele Ceccarelli wrote:

Wo= rking group,

&n= bsp;

Th= is starts a two weeks poll on making  draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-e= ncode-09 a CCAMP working group document.

Pl= ease send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/= do not support" and a motivation for  your reply, mandatory for t= he "not support" and nice to have for the "support".

Pl= ease note that the IPR declarations was carried out against version -08 and= this is version -09 but there is no change in the content of the document,= just a date refresh. No IPR was disclosed against this document.

Th= e polling will end on = Tuesday march 20th.

&n= bsp;

Th= anks,

Da= niele & Fatai

 = 




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List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 06:44:12 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------30E5BE254532573684469175 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes on special request. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing Directorate, please see​http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion or by updating the draft. Document: draft-ietf-ccamp-dwdm-if-mng-ctrl-fwk-09 Reviewer: Dhruv Dhody Review Date: 12-03-2018 IETF LC End Date: unknown Intended Status: Informational *Summary:* * I have some minor concerns about this document that I think should be resolved before publication. *Comments:* * The draft provides useful information related to management and control of single channel DWDM interface. I have highlighted some issues which could improve the readability and clarity of the document. *Major Issues:* * No major issues found *Minor Issues:* * Section 1.1, please use the latest template for requirement language as you do use lower case RFC 2119 keywords and the reference to RFC 8174 would make that clear. * I find the use of 'SNMP' as problematic, when used together with Yang. One is a protocol, another is a data modeling language! Suggest to either use MIB & Yang or to use SNMP & NETCONF/RESTCONF. * It was not clear that the SNMP/MIB would be used only for retrieving data (read-only MIB) or it would include writable MIB objects. To me this includes write capability and thus consider adding some text and making the intention clearer in lieu of IESG statement - https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/writable-mib-module.html; if there are no plans to define MIB extensions (i did not find any extension) then consider removing. * I understand that MIB, Yang models and LMP extensionsare not defined in this documents, but since the work has started,consider putting some details in the appendix for the reader making it clear that these details are based on the status at the time of publication and subject to change. * Section 4.1.1, are there any security implications because of a client device being controlled by the transport management system? * Query: Can the PCE play any role here? if yes (i hope) consider adding some text as well. * Section 6, IMHO the requirements listed reads as requirements for the deployments/implementation but there is one or two instance of requirements in terms of what needs to be standardized/defined in a future RFC (requirement 1, 6). I would suggest to rephrase. Also the guidance in section 1.1 could be updated to make it clearer on who is the target of these requirements in the 2nd paragraph. * Section 6, is it wise to only mention NETCONF? Maybe change that to YANG based network management protocols such as NETCONF [RFC6241] or RESTCONF [RFC8040]? * Suggestion: The current document highlights the protocols and data model aspects but does not list or discuss what are theseparameters. In usecases, P(in) and P(out) or modulation scheme, FEC is mentioned, but it is light on details. Consider if providing this information would be useful? *Nits:* * Expand these on first use - DWDM, EMS, NMS, ROADM, WSON, SMI, LMP, WDM, OLS, Rs, Ss etc. I would recommend checking out - https://www.rfc-editor.org/materials/abbrev.expansion.txt * s/wither/either/ (Section 1) * Missing closing bracket in "(defined in [ITU-T.G.694.1];" (Section 2) * s/including Add Drop Multiplexers (ROADM)/including Reconfigurable Optical Add/Drop Multiplexers (ROADMs)/ (Section 2) * Consider rephrasing, difficult to parse -  (Section 3.1.1)    This document elaborates only the IaDI Interface as shown in Figure 1    as transversely compatible and multi-vendor interface within one    administrative domain controlled by the network operator. * s/OADMs/ROADMs/ (Section 3.1.2) * s/through tho optical/through the optical/(section 5.1) * Section 5.2.1 "..depicted as yellow triangles..", remove yellow for obvious reasons :) * P(in) and Pin as well as P(out) and Pout are used interchangeably. * Please change the title for figure 6 Thanks! Dhruv --------------30E5BE254532573684469175 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello,

I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes on special request. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing Directorate, please see ​http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir

Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion or by updating the draft.

Document: draft-ietf-ccamp-dwdm-if-mng-ctrl-fwk-09
Reviewer: Dhruv Dhody
Review Date: 12-03-2018
IETF LC End Date: unknown
Intended Status: Informational

Summary: 

  • I have some minor concerns about this document that I think should be resolved before publication.

Comments:

  • The draft provides useful information related to management and control of single channel DWDM interface. I have highlighted some issues which could improve the readability and clarity of the document.

Major Issues:

  • No major issues found

Minor Issues:
  • Section 1.1, please use the latest template for requirement language as you do use lower case RFC 2119 keywords and the reference to RFC 8174 would make that clear. 
  • I find the use of 'SNMP' as problematic, when used together with Yang. One is a protocol, another is a data modeling language! Suggest to either use MIB & Yang or to use SNMP & NETCONF/RESTCONF.
  • It was not clear that the SNMP/MIB would be used only for retrieving data (read-only MIB) or it would include writable MIB objects. To me this includes write capability and thus consider adding some text and making the intention clearer in lieu of IESG statement - https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/writable-mib-module.html; if there are no plans to define MIB extensions (i did not find any extension) then consider removing.
  • I understand that MIB, Yang models and LMP extensions are not defined in this documents, but since the work has started, consider putting some details in the appendix for the reader making it clear that these details are based on the status at the time of publication and subject to change. 
  • Section 4.1.1, are there any security implications because of a client device being controlled by the transport management system?
  • Query: Can the PCE play any role here? if yes (i hope) consider adding some text as well.
  • Section 6, IMHO the requirements listed reads as requirements for the deployments/implementation but there is one or two instance of requirements in terms of what needs to be standardized/defined in a future RFC (requirement 1, 6). I would suggest to rephrase. Also the guidance in section 1.1 could be updated to make it clearer on who is the target of these requirements in the 2nd paragraph.
  • Section 6, is it wise to only mention NETCONF? Maybe change that to YANG based network management protocols such as NETCONF [RFC6241] or RESTCONF [RFC8040]?
  • Suggestion: The current document highlights the protocols and data model aspects but does not list or discuss what are these parameters. In usecases, P(in) and P(out) or modulation scheme, FEC is mentioned, but it is light on details. Consider if providing this information would be useful? 
Nits:

  • Expand these on first use - DWDM, EMS, NMS, ROADM, WSON, SMI, LMP, WDM, OLS, Rs, Ss etc. I would recommend checking out - https://www.rfc-editor.org/materials/abbrev.expansion.txt
  • s/wither/either/ (Section 1)
  • Missing closing bracket in "(defined in [ITU-T.G.694.1];" (Section 2)
  • s/including Add Drop Multiplexers (ROADM)/including Reconfigurable Optical Add/Drop Multiplexers (ROADMs)/ (Section 2)
  • Consider rephrasing, difficult to parse -  (Section 3.1.1)
   This document elaborates only the IaDI Interface as shown in Figure 1
   as transversely compatible and multi-vendor interface within one
   administrative domain controlled by the network operator.
  • s/OADMs/ROADMs/ (Section 3.1.2)
  • s/through tho optical/through the optical/(section 5.1)
  • Section 5.2.1 "..depicted as yellow triangles..", remove yellow for obvious reasons :)
  • P(in) and Pin as well as P(out) and Pout are used interchangeably.
  • Please change the title for figure 6
Thanks!

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based on what you wrote below, I conclude that the defined impairment parameters are insufficient for IV and vendor-specific (proprietary) extensions are
needed anyway (e.g. opaque OSPF-TE LSA extensions). That's why this draft as well as the related drafts do not provide a solution to the problem of optical IV.
These drafts are wrongly suggesting that such a solution exists.


Thanks,
Dieter


On 09.03.2018 21:09, Leeyoung wrote:

Hi all,

The scope of this document is to enhance OSPF to carry LSA that includes impairment data. How to use these data is up to head end node or external PCE to compute the path that is impairment-aware.

RFC 6566 explains this context well. See Section 5 of RFC 6566 that discusses the computation models. Of course, the computation algorithm as to how to use impairment info is the secret source for each vendor, which is not what we talk about in this draft. We only say these impairment data is needed to enhance the RWA optical path calculation.

Hope this explains.

Thanks.

Young

From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Giovanni Martinelli (giomarti)
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2018 3:44 AM
To: Dieter Beller <Dieter.Beller@nokia.com>
Cc: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) <ccamp@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for adoption - draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-09

agree on the fact that this comment apply to other drafts, rather than this one, in particular:RFC6566 anddraft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info

Cheers

G



On 9 Mar 2018, at 10:04, Dieter Beller <Dieter.Beller@nokia.com> wrote:

Hi all,

no/do not support

Reasoning: the definition of optical impairment parameters and the encoding of those is useless without the definition of a computational model for
optical impairment validation (IV) in the context of end-to-end path computation in a WDM network.
Computational models are typically vendor-specific and the draft does thereforenotprovide a solution to the problem of optical impairment validation
(computation of paths where optical impairment constraints need to considered.) The same applies to the related drafts addressing IV.


Thanks,
Dieter


On 06.03.2018 18:41, Daniele Ceccarelli wrote:

Working group,

This starts a two weeks poll on making draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-09 a CCAMP working group document.

Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support" and a motivation for your reply, mandatory for the "not support" and nice to have for the "support".

Please note that the IPR declarations was carried out against version -08 and this is version -09 but there is no change in the content of the document, just a date refresh. No IPR was disclosed against this document.

The polling will end onTuesday march 20th.

Thanks,

Daniele & Fatai




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draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-09 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 10:15:24 -0000 --_000_DB6PR0701MB2632730456C4292672F648C191D30DB6PR0701MB2632_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Daniele, WG no/do not support I share Dieter's motivation Thanks Sergio From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dieter Beller Sent: Friday, March 9, 2018 10:04 AM To: Daniele Ceccarelli ; CCAMP (ccamp@ietf= .org) Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for adoption - draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-enc= ode-09 Hi all, no/do not support Reasoning: the definition of optical impairment parameters and the encoding= of those is useless without the definition of a computational model for optical impairment validation (IV) in the context of end-to-end path comput= ation in a WDM network. Computational models are typically vendor-specific and the draft does there= fore not provide a solution to the problem of optical impairment validation (computation of paths where optical impairment constraints need to consider= ed.) The same applies to the related drafts addressing IV. Thanks, Dieter On 06.03.2018 18:41, Daniele Ceccarelli wrote: Working group, This starts a two weeks poll on making draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-enco= de-09 a CCAMP working group document. Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not suppor= t" and a motivation for your reply, mandatory for the "not support" and ni= ce to have for the "support". Please note that the IPR declarations was carried out against version -08 a= nd this is version -09 but there is no change in the content of the documen= t, just a date refresh. No IPR was disclosed against this document. The polling will end on Tuesday march 20th. Thanks, Daniele & Fatai _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp --_000_DB6PR0701MB2632730456C4292672F648C191D30DB6PR0701MB2632_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Daniele, WG

 

no/do not support

 

I share Dieter’s motivation

 

Thanks

Sergio

 

 

 

From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dieter Beller
Sent: Friday, March 9, 2018 10:04 AM
To: Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>; CCAM= P (ccamp@ietf.org) <ccamp@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for adoption - draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson= -iv-encode-09

 

Hi all,

no/do not support

Reasoning: the definition of optical impairment parameters and the encoding= of those is useless without the definition of a computational model for optical impairment validation (IV) in the context of end-to-end path comput= ation in a WDM network.
Computational models are typically vendor-specific and the draft does there= fore not provide a solution to the problem of optical impairment validation<= br> (computation of paths where optical impairment constraints need to consider= ed.) The same applies to the related drafts addressing IV.


Thanks,
Dieter

On 06.03.2018 18:41, Daniele Ceccarelli wrote:<= /o:p>

Working group,

 

This starts a two weeks poll on making  draft-martinelli-ccamp-w= son-iv-encode-09 a CCAMP working group document.

Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or &= quot;no/do not support" and a motivation for  your reply, mandatory for the "not support" and nice to have for the "s= upport".

Please note that the IPR declarations was carried out against version= -08 and this is version -09 but there is no change in the content of the document, just a date refresh. No IPR was = disclosed against this document.

The polling will end on Tuesday march 20th.

 

Thanks,

Daniele &= amp; Fatai

 




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SpamDiagnosticMetadata: NSPM X-OriginatorOrg: nokia.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Mar 2018 13:31:01.8628 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 3303483f-4be1-4adb-9fac-08d5881d7fe4 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Id: 5d471751-9675-428d-917b-70f44f9630b0 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: HE1PR07MB3419 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for adoption - draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-09 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 13:31:11 -0000 Hi Daniele,

your arguments seem to be more IETF process-oriented and I understand those.

My technical arguments are indeed not new and I have raised my concerns at almost every CCAMP meeting in the last couple of years as well as on the
mailing list.

It looks like my technical arguments are constantly ignored by the folks in the WG who are working on these drafts while they must be aware that what
they are defining is incomplete and therefore it is NOT possible to perform IV for an end-to-end path in a WDM network. Parameters and their encoding
can only be defined if a standardized and accurate computational model for IV is defined too, which is most likely not going to happen.


Thanks,
Dieter


On 12.03.2018 12:40, Daniele Ceccarelli wrote:

I tend to agree with Giovanni here.

 

The discussion is not about the draft being polled, which is the encoding of an information described by a WG document.

The discussion seems to be focused on a document that the working group decide to work on. Such work is still in progress and hence open to discussion and refinement.

 

BR
Daniele 

 

From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Giovanni Martinelli (giomarti)
Sent: lunedì 12 marzo 2018 09:58
To: Dieter Beller <Dieter.Beller@nokia.com>
Cc: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) <ccamp@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for adoption - draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-09

 

Dieter,

 

looks like you are opening again a discussion we had a while back. 

If you look at draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info there’s clear statements about this and it was formalizing the output of Join ITU/Ccamp meeting hold in Orlando at IETF86. If you like we can sum up again the conclusion but probably you may first want to provide specific comments on draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info, it’s a WG draft and its open for improvements.

 

This specific draft draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-09 just provide encoding for defitions within draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info where list of parameters was provide by ITU liason referred in the document.

 

Cheers

G

 

 

On 12 Mar 2018, at 09:37, Dieter Beller <Dieter.Beller@nokia.com> wrote:

 

Hi Young, all,

based on what you wrote below, I conclude that the defined impairment parameters are insufficient for IV and vendor-specific (proprietary) extensions are
needed anyway (e.g. opaque OSPF-TE LSA extensions). That's why this draft as well as the related drafts do not provide a solution to the problem of optical IV.
These drafts are wrongly suggesting that such a solution exists.


Thanks,
Dieter


On 09.03.2018 21:09, Leeyoung wrote:

Hi all,

 

The scope of this document is to enhance OSPF to carry LSA that includes impairment data. How to use these data is up to head end node or external PCE to compute the path that is impairment-aware. 

RFC 6566 explains this context well. See Section 5 of RFC 6566 that discusses the computation models. Of course, the computation algorithm as to how to use impairment info is the secret source for each vendor, which is not what we talk about in this draft. We only say these impairment data is needed to enhance the RWA optical path calculation.

 

Hope this explains.

 

Thanks.

Young

 

From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Giovanni Martinelli (giomarti)
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2018 3:44 AM
To: Dieter Beller <Dieter.Beller@nokia.com>
Cc: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) <ccamp@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for adoption - draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-09

 

agree on the fact that this comment apply to other drafts, rather than this one, in particular: RFC6566 and draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info

 

Cheers

G

 




On 9 Mar 2018, at 10:04, Dieter Beller <Dieter.Beller@nokia.com> wrote:

 

Hi all,

no/do not support

Reasoning: the definition of optical impairment parameters and the encoding of those is useless without the definition of a computational model for
optical impairment validation (IV) in the context of end-to-end path computation in a WDM network.
Computational models are typically vendor-specific and the draft does therefore not provide a solution to the problem of optical impairment validation
(computation of paths where optical impairment constraints need to considered.) The same applies to the related drafts addressing IV.


Thanks,
Dieter



On 06.03.2018 18:41, Daniele Ceccarelli wrote:

Working group,

 

This starts a two weeks poll on making  draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-09 a CCAMP working group document.

Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support" and a motivation for  your reply, mandatory for the "not support" and nice to have for the "support".

Please note that the IPR declarations was carried out against version -08 and this is version -09 but there is no change in the content of the document, just a date refresh. No IPR was disclosed against this document.

The polling will end on Tuesday march 20th.

 

Thanks,

Daniele & Fatai

 





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Mar 2018 16:14:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.193.71.63] (10.193.71.63) by FTRDCH01.rd.francetelecom.fr (10.194.32.11) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.3.382.0; Mon, 12 Mar 2018 16:14:27 +0100 To: Daniele Ceccarelli , Dieter Beller CC: "CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org)" References: <9BB3A10E-CA3A-431D-90FA-4EFE2A928AED@cisco.com> <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173CFB054D@sjceml521-mbs.china.huawei.com> From: Julien Meuric Organization: Orange Message-ID: <649502e3-99ff-d1da-5301-a187c2696065@orange.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 16:14:26 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Poll for adoption - draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-09 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 15:14:31 -0000 Hi all, I agree with Daniele. The requirements one may have on transparency from Madrid to Warsaw should not be used to prevent interoperability where high-end systems are over-sized. Furthermore, adding a regeneration from time to time could be an acceptable price to pay to enhance interoperability: this is the kind of trade off urging for initiatives like OpenROADM. @Dieter: The polled I-D does two things: - identify some optical parameter sets (which you may enhance if adopted), - specify the sub-TLV structure to carry these; thus creating opportunities to add codepoints for a "secret photon spin", to bring implementers (including stack vendors and open source projects) provide ready-to-carry OSPF stacks, and to build compatible protocol analyzers (which are particularly useful). Whatever your disagreement with the rough consensus on the former, you should be interested by the latter. Moreover, even if optical feasibility used to be opaque, there are now open initiatives (like "Telecom Infrastrucure Project) publicizing code to implement that feature. It is part of the IETF's duty to provide standard means to convey corresponding information in OSPF. As a result, in case it is not clear, I support the adoption of the I-D. Thanks, Julien Mar. 12, 2018 - daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com: > > Hi Dieter, all, > >   > > yes, that’s the comment I can make from a process point of view, as > well as noticing that this work is supported by three major vendors > and two operators active in CCAMP (things that can’t be ignored and > that will be taken into account, together with other inputs, by the > chairs when deciding whether to adopt the draft or not). > >   > > From an individual point of view I consider this impasse a bit > frustrating, because the secret sauce will always be there and I don’t > understand why we shouldn’t try to offer the service providers to > choose among: > > * A wonderful single vendor solution with secret parameters and > secret algorithms that allows reaching supreme performances. > * A decent acceptable interoperable solution in which a compromise > is made accepting to work on a set of agreed parameters that each > vendor can use as input to its secret sauce. > >   > > The full set of parameters will never be agreed (long time == never), > hence I don’t see harmful to agree on a set of parameters and a > standard way of encoding them to be used by different algorithms to > find something interoperable which is for sure non optimal but decent. > >   > > BR > Daniele  > >   > >   > > *From:*Dieter Beller [mailto:Dieter.Beller@nokia.com] > *Sent:* lunedì 12 marzo 2018 14:31 > >   > > Hi Daniele, > > your arguments seem to be more IETF process-oriented and I understand > those. > > My technical arguments are indeed not new and I have raised my > concerns at almost every CCAMP meeting in the last couple of years as > well as on the > mailing list. > > It looks like my technical arguments are constantly ignored by the > folks in the WG who are working on these drafts while they must be > aware that what > they are defining is incomplete and therefore it is NOT possible to > perform IV for an end-to-end path in a WDM network. Parameters and > their encoding > can only be defined if a standardized and accurate computational model > for IV is defined too, which is most likely not going to happen. > > > Thanks, > Dieter > > On 12.03.2018 12:40, Daniele Ceccarelli wrote: > > I tend to agree with Giovanni here. > >   > > The discussion is not about the draft being polled, which is the > encoding of an information described by a WG document. > > The discussion seems to be focused on a document that the working > group decide to work on. Such work is still in progress and hence > open to discussion and refinement. > >   > > BR > Daniele  > >   > > *From:*CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of > *Giovanni Martinelli (giomarti) > *Sent:* lunedì 12 marzo 2018 09:58 > >   > > Dieter, > >   > > looks like you are opening again a discussion we had a while back.  > > If you look at draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info there’s clear > statements about this and it was formalizing the output of Join > ITU/Ccamp meeting hold in Orlando at IETF86. If you like we can > sum up again the conclusion but probably you may first want to > provide specific comments on draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info, it’s a > WG draft and its open for improvements. > >   > > This specific draft draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-09 just > provide encoding for defitions within > draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info where list of parameters was provide > by ITU liason referred in the document. > >   > > Cheers > > G > >   > >   > > On 12 Mar 2018, at 09:37, Dieter Beller > > wrote: > >   > > Hi Young, all, > > based on what you wrote below, I conclude that the defined > impairment parameters are insufficient for IV and > vendor-specific (proprietary) extensions are > needed anyway (e.g. opaque OSPF-TE LSA extensions). That's why > this draft as well as the related drafts do not provide a > solution to the problem of optical IV. > These drafts are wrongly suggesting that such a solution exists. > > > Thanks, > Dieter > > > > On 09.03.2018 21:09, Leeyoung wrote: > > Hi all, > >   > > The scope of this document is to enhance OSPF to carry LSA > that includes impairment data. How to use these data is up > to head end node or external PCE to compute the path that > is impairment-aware.  > > RFC 6566 explains this context well. See Section 5 of RFC > 6566 that discusses the computation models. Of course, the > computation algorithm as to how to use impairment info is > the secret source for each vendor, which is not what we > talk about in this draft. We only say these impairment > data is needed to enhance the RWA optical path calculation. > >   > > Hope this explains. > >   > > Thanks. > > Young > >   > > *From:* CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf > Of *Giovanni Martinelli (giomarti) > *Sent:* Friday, March 09, 2018 3:44 AM > >   > > agree on the fact that this comment apply to other drafts, > rather than this one, in particular: RFC6566 > and draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info > >   > > Cheers > > G > >   > > > > > > On 9 Mar 2018, at 10:04, Dieter Beller > > wrote: > >   > > Hi all, > > no/do not support > > Reasoning: the definition of optical impairment > parameters and the encoding of those is useless > without the definition of a computational model for > optical impairment validation (IV) in the context of > end-to-end path computation in a WDM network. > Computational models are typically vendor-specific and > the draft does therefore *not *provide a solution to > the problem of optical impairment validation > (computation of paths where optical impairment > constraints need to considered.) The same applies to > the related drafts addressing IV. > > > Thanks, > Dieter > > > > > On 06.03.2018 18:41, Daniele Ceccarelli wrote: > > Working group, > >   > > This starts a two weeks poll on making >  draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-09 a CCAMP > working group document. > > Please send email to the list indicating > "yes/support" or "no/do not support" and a > motivation for  your reply, mandatory for the "not > support" and nice to have for the "support". > > Please note that the IPR declarations was carried > out against version -08 and this is version -09 > but there is no change in the content of the > document, just a date refresh. 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Hi CCAMP, MANET,

 

We have a new version of the ag= enda (see attached). We’re having problems uploading it to the server= but hopefully this will be fixed soon.

Please note the addition of ses= sion I and a new arrangement of slots 10-11-12.

 

Thanks

Daniele, Fatai, Oscar

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Microwave meeting - Thursday March 15, 10:00-11:00 (= CET, UTC+1).

 

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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/101/materials/agenda-101-ccamp And now online. BR Daniele From: Daniele Ceccarelli Sent: marted=EC 13 marzo 2018 11:53 To: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) Subject: IETF 101 - New version of the agenda Hi CCAMP, MANET, We have a new version of the agenda (see attached). We're having problems u= ploading it to the server but hopefully this will be fixed soon. Please note the addition of session I and a new arrangement of slots 10-11-= 12. Thanks Daniele, Fatai, Oscar --_000_HE1PR07MB3161228799EE5B9E885EA8E9F0D20HE1PR07MB3161eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/101/materi= als/agenda-101-ccamp

 

And now online.

 

BR
Daniele 

 

From: Daniele Ceccarelli
Sent: marted=EC 13 marzo 2018 11:53
To: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) <ccamp@ietf.org>
Subject: IETF 101 - New version of the agenda

 

Hi CCAMP, MANET,

 

We have a new version of the ag= enda (see attached). We’re having problems uploading it to the server= but hopefully this will be fixed soon.

Please note the addition of ses= sion I and a new arrangement of slots 10-11-12.

 

Thanks

Daniele, Fatai, Oscar

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You have a number of 'enumerations' such as coding-modulation and tdm-type. How stable are they? How does their life cycle compare with that of the rest of the YANG module? There is a tendency, prevalent in MIB modules but carried across to YANG, of seeing these as more volatile and being placed in a separate module, a separate RFC even (e.g interfaces and interface types), so that when they change, rather than having to reissue the entire module, just the module with the enumerations is reissued. (The ultimate in this is having the control of the list placed in the hands of IANA with a revision policy of Expert Review so that nothing needs re-issuing). I started to say that I am not familiar enough with the likely evolution of ..... and then saw that I can see no reference for QAM to follow that line of thought. I think you need a reference for QAM. I would also include QAM in the list of abbreviations, perhaps with BPSK. Tom Petch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonas Ahlberg" To: "t.petch" ; Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 8:02 AM Subject: RE: [CCAMP] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03.txt Hi Tom, I tried to address your comments in time to make a new submission before the cut-off time today. Maybe I was too quick, but I expect that we will get more comments after our presentation/discussion at IETF101 and we plan for a new submission after that. Then we will include your comments as well. Once again, thanks for your effort to review our draft. Regards JonasA -----Original Message----- From: t.petch [mailto:ietfc@btconnect.com] Sent: den 3 mars 2018 14:07 To: Jonas Ahlberg ; ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03.txt Jonas That was quick. You have addressed almost all my comments (I was expecting more time to have another read - I am sure I had some typos which I have not found on a further read!) I still see ID-draft editors: in the contact clause which is true right now but which should become Editors: at some point. You have added a note the the RFC Editor for most but not quite all the uses of XXXX - the ones that might be added are in the IANA Requirements. (There are so many XXXX these days that some editors just put a blanket statement at the top rather than trying to flag each one). Requirements Language These days usually includes a reference to [RFC8174] - see for example draft-ietf-netmod-rfc7223bis Finally, the decimal point is represented in places with a period and in places with a comma; USA versus Europe perhaps. I am ok with it and suspect that this is a deliberate choice on your part and is probably the right choice for the technical content but might raise some comment. . Tom Petch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonas Ahlberg" To: "t.petch" ; Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2018 11:11 AM Hi Tom, Thank you very much for your review of the microwave yang draft. We hope that we have addressed your comments in the 04 revision of the draft uploaded today. Thanks again, JonasA A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-04.txt has been successfully submitted by Jonas Ahlberg and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang Revision: 04 Title: A YANG Data Model for Microwave Radio Link Document date: 2018-03-03 Group: ccamp Pages: 46 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-04.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-04 Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-04 Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-04 Abstract: This document defines a YANG data model for control and management of the radio link interfaces, and their connectivity to packet (typically Ethernet) interfaces in a microwave/millimeter wave node. The data nodes for management of the interface protection functionality is broken out into a separate and generic YANG data model in order to make it available also for other interface types. -----Original Message----- From: t.petch [mailto:ietfc@btconnect.com] Sent: den 1 mars 2018 12:06 To: Jonas Ahlberg ; ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03.txt Jonas Some administrative thoughts on the YANG in this I-D, most applying to both YANG modules. The contact list has i-d draft authors; suggest editors The description clause copyright statement is incomplete. The description clause lacks a statement as to which RFC this comes from. The revision should say 'Initial revision' Add an RFC editor note to replace the dates (plural) The case of xxxx varies; suggest making it XXXX and adding note to the RFC Editor to replace occurrences thereof. Some in the YANG module might get missed (and some authors use xxxx to mean one thing and XXXX for something else:-). import ietf-interface-protection add a reference; in the RFC it may be obvious where this can be found but when the YANG module is extracted and on its own, there will be hundreds of potential RFC to choose from import iana-if-type Again I would add a reference - I know, it is well known but I am fan of stating the obvious in a technical document import ietf-yang-types ditto You reference rfc7223bis Suggest adding a note to the RFC Editor to replace this with the number assigned to that when it becomes an RFC; the RFC Editor has asked for such a note. ETSI References need more work. The YANG module has references to ETSI TR 102 311 ETSI EN 302 217-1 ETSI EN 301 129 all of which should appear in the Normative References of the I-D and none of which do; and they then need to appear in the text part of the I-D lest they are flagged as unused references You do have EN 302 217-2 [EN302217-2] but that is a different version:-) And there is a general problem; the reference clause uses ETSI EN 302 217-1 whereas the existing Reference for EN302217-2 drops the ETSI and drops the spaces; obviously the same? May be. So I think you should include a paragraph, or table, perhaps as Section 4.1 saying something like " This module imports typedefs from [RFC6991] and [RFC7223bis], .... and it references ETSI TR 102 311 [TR102311] ETSI EN 302 217-1 [EN302217-1] ETSI EN 301 129 [EN301129] " which is the sort of thing that draft-ietf-netmod-rfc7277bis does. reference "ITU-T G.826"; reference "ITU-T Rec. G.808.1"; ditto (and perhaps making the style the same, with or without Rec., even spelling it out ) Tom Petch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonas Ahlberg" To: Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 1:35 PM > Dear CCAMPers, > > The draft of the YANG Data Model for Microwave Radio Link has now been updated. > The structure, format and content of the document have been changed to adhere to "Guidelines for Authors and Reviewers of YANG Data Model Documents", draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis-15. > A few editorial changes of the actual yang models have also been done, but the structure and content remains however the same. > > In all, the authors believe the draft addresses all the comments and would like to ask for WG LC. > > BR, > JonasA (on behalf of the co-authors) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org > Sent: den 26 februari 2018 14:23 > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: ccamp@ietf.org > Subject: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03.txt > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane WG of the IETF. > > Title : A YANG Data Model for Microwave Radio Link > Authors : Jonas Ahlberg > Ye Min > Xi Li > Daniela Spreafico > Marko Vaupotic > Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03.txt > Pages : 44 > Date : 2018-02-26 > > Abstract: > This document defines a YANG data model for control and management > of the radio link interfaces, and their connectivity to packet > (typically Ethernet) interfaces in a microwave/millimeter wave node. > The data nodes for management of the interface protection > functionality is broken out into a separate and generic YANG data > model in order to make it available also for other interface types. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From nobody Tue Mar 20 09:30:36 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C5012EB2E for ; 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable CCAMP, the poll is closed with the result of the draft being adopted by the workin= g group. The non-support from some individuals has been taken into account but the s= upport was much wider, moreover the moving forward of the industry in this = domain has a significant weight in the decision. Authors, please submit the draft as draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-00 chan= ging only name and title. Thanks Daniele & Fatai From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Daniele Ceccarelli Sent: marted=EC 6 marzo 2018 18:41 To: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) Subject: [CCAMP] Poll for adoption - draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-= 09 Working group, This starts a two weeks poll on making draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-enco= de-09 a CCAMP working group document. Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not suppor= t" and a motivation for your reply, mandatory for the "not support" and ni= ce to have for the "support". Please note that the IPR declarations was carried out against version -08 a= nd this is version -09 but there is no change in the content of the documen= t, just a date refresh. No IPR was disclosed against this document. The polling will end on Tuesday march 20th. Thanks, Daniele & Fatai --_000_VI1PR07MB316777510562C2B0DDECF3BDF0AB0VI1PR07MB3167eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

CCAMP,

 

the poll is closed with the res= ult of the draft being adopted by the working group.

The non-support from some indiv= iduals has been taken into account but the support was much wider, moreover= the moving forward of the industry in this domain has a significant weight= in the decision.

 

Authors, please submit the draf= t as draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-00 changing only name and title.<= /o:p>

 

Thanks

Daniele & Fatai<= /span>

 

From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Daniele Ceccarelli
Sent: marted=EC 6 marzo 2018 18:41
To: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) <ccamp@ietf.org>
Subject: [CCAMP] Poll for adoption - draft-martinelli-ccamp-wson-iv-= encode-09

 

Working group,

 

This starts a two weeks poll on making  draft-martinelli-ccamp-w= son-iv-encode-09 a CCAMP working group document.

Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or &= quot;no/do not support" and a motivation for  your reply, mandatory for the "not support" and nice to have for the "s= upport".

Please note that the IPR declarations was carried out against version= -08 and this is version -09 but there is no change in the content of the document, just a date refresh. No IPR was = disclosed against this document.

The polling will end on Tuesday march 20th.

 

Thanks,

Daniele &= amp; Fatai

 

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We have now updated the draft, A YANG Data Model for Microwave Radio Link, = based on the comments received in mail and on the presentation earlier toda= y, see below We would like your comments before we submit it as a new revision. The changes are: - "Interface identities", "Radio-link-terminal mode identities" , "Coding a= nd modulation identities", and "TDM-type identities" have been broken out f= rom the main module and put in a new module "ietf-microwave-types". - Added an editor's note that "ID-draft editors" should be changed to "Edit= ors" - Added a single editor's note that all XXXX should be replaced with the pr= oper RFC number, instead of one note for each case - Updated draft-ietf-netmod-rfc7223bis to RFC8343 - Updated requirements language with a reference to RFC8174 - Updated to a consistent use of dot "." as the decimal separator - Added QAM, BPSK, and QPSK to the list of acronyms Dates remain to be updated before submission. The complete text file can be found on the GitHub https://github.com/ietf-ccamp-mw/IETF-CCAMP-Microwave-YANG-Data-Model/tree/= master/YANG%20Data%20Model/2018-03%20-%20draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-05 Regards JonasA -----Original Message----- From: t.petch [mailto:ietfc@btconnect.com]=20 Sent: den 16 mars 2018 13:01 To: Jonas Ahlberg ; ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03.txt Jonas A structural thought. You have a number of 'enumerations' such as coding-modulation and tdm-type= . How stable are they? How does their life cycle compare with that of the= rest of the YANG module? There is a tendency, prevalent in MIB modules but carried across to YANG, o= f seeing these as more volatile and being placed in a separate module, a se= parate RFC even (e.g interfaces and interface types), so that when they cha= nge, rather than having to reissue the entire module, just the module with = the enumerations is reissued. (The ultimate in this is having the control = of the list placed in the hands of IANA with a revision policy of Expert Re= view so that nothing needs re-issuing). I started to say that I am not familiar enough with the likely evolution of= ..... and then saw that I can see no reference for QAM to follow that line= of thought. I think you need a reference for QAM. I would also include Q= AM in the list of abbreviations, perhaps with BPSK. Tom Petch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonas Ahlberg" To: "t.petch" ; Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 8:02 AM Subject: RE: [CCAMP] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03.txt Hi Tom, I tried to address your comments in time to make a new submission before th= e cut-off time today. Maybe I was too quick, but I expect that we will get = more comments after our presentation/discussion at IETF101 and we plan for = a new submission after that. Then we will include your comments as well. On= ce again, thanks for your effort to review our draft. Regards JonasA -----Original Message----- From: t.petch [mailto:ietfc@btconnect.com] Sent: den 3 mars 2018 14:07 To: Jonas Ahlberg ; ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03.txt Jonas That was quick. You have addressed almost all my comments (I was expectin= g more time to have another read - I am sure I had some typos which I have = not found on a further read!) I still see ID-draft editors: in the contact clause which is true right now but which should become Editors: at some point. You have added a note the the RFC Editor for most but not quite all the use= s of XXXX - the ones that might be added are in the IANA Requirements. (Th= ere are so many XXXX these days that some editors just put a blanket statem= ent at the top rather than trying to flag each one). Requirements Language These days usually includes a reference to [RFC8174] - see for example d= raft-ietf-netmod-rfc7223bis Finally, the decimal point is represented in places with a period and in pl= aces with a comma; USA versus Europe perhaps. I am ok with it and suspect t= hat this is a deliberate choice on your part and is probably the right choi= ce for the technical content but might raise some comment. . Tom Petch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonas Ahlberg" To: "t.petch" ; Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2018 11:11 AM Hi Tom, Thank you very much for your review of the microwave yang draft. We hope that we have addressed your comments in the 04 revision of the draf= t uploaded today. Thanks again, JonasA A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-04.txt has been successfully= submitted by Jonas Ahlberg and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang Revision: 04 Title: A YANG Data Model for Microwave Radio Link Document date: 2018-03-03 Group: ccamp Pages: 46 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-04.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-04 Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-04 Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-04 Abstract: This document defines a YANG data model for control and management of the radio link interfaces, and their connectivity to packet (typically Ethernet) interfaces in a microwave/millimeter wave node. The data nodes for management of the interface protection functionality is broken out into a separate and generic YANG data model in order to make it available also for other interface types. -----Original Message----- From: t.petch [mailto:ietfc@btconnect.com] Sent: den 1 mars 2018 12:06 To: Jonas Ahlberg ; ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03.txt Jonas Some administrative thoughts on the YANG in this I-D, most applying to bot= h YANG modules. The contact list has i-d draft authors; suggest editors The description clause copyright statement is incomplete. The description clause lacks a statement as to which RFC this comes from. The revision should say 'Initial revision' Add an RFC editor note to replace the dates (plural) The case of xxxx varies; suggest making it XXXX and adding note to the RFC = Editor to replace occurrences thereof. Some in the YANG module might= get missed (and some authors use xxxx to mean one thing and XXXX for somet= hing else:-). import ietf-interface-protection add a reference; in the RFC it may be obvious where this can be found but w= hen the YANG module is extracted and on its own, there will be hundreds of = potential RFC to choose from import iana-if-type Again I would add a reference - I know, it is well known but I am fan of s= tating the obvious in a technical document import ietf-yang-types ditto You reference rfc7223bis Suggest adding a note to the RFC Editor to replace this with the number ass= igned to that when it becomes an RFC; the RFC Editor has asked for such a n= ote. ETSI References need more work. The YANG module has references to ETSI TR= 102 311 ETSI EN 302 217-1 ETSI EN 301 129 all of which should appear in = the Normative References of the I-D and none of which do; and they then nee= d to appear in the text part of the I-D lest they are flagged as unused ref= erences You do have EN 302 217-2 [EN302217-2] but that is a different version:-) And there is a general problem; the reference clause uses ETSI EN 302 217-1 whereas the existing Reference for EN302217-2 drops the ETSI and drop= s the spaces; obviously the same? May be. So I think you should include a paragraph, or table, perhaps as Section 4.1 saying something like " This module imports typedefs from [RFC6991] and [RFC7223bis], .... and it references ETSI TR 102 311 [TR102311] ETSI EN 302 217-1 [EN302217-1] ETSI EN 301 129 [EN301129] " which is the sort of thing that draft-ietf-netmod-rfc7277bis does. reference "ITU-T G.826"; reference "ITU-T Rec. G.808.1"; ditto (and perhaps making the style the same, with or without Rec., even spelling= it out ) Tom Petch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonas Ahlberg" To: Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 1:35 PM > Dear CCAMPers, > > The draft of the YANG Data Model for Microwave Radio Link has now been updated. > The structure, format and content of the document have been changed to adhere to "Guidelines for Authors and Reviewers of YANG Data Model Document= s", draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis-15. > A few editorial changes of the actual yang models have also been done, but the structure and content remains however the same. > > In all, the authors believe the draft addresses all the comments and would like to ask for WG LC. > > BR, > JonasA (on behalf of the co-authors) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org > Sent: den 26 februari 2018 14:23 > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: ccamp@ietf.org > Subject: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03.txt > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane WG of the IETF. > > Title : A YANG Data Model for Microwave Radio Link > Authors : Jonas Ahlberg > Ye Min > Xi Li > Daniela Spreafico > Marko Vaupotic > Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03.txt > Pages : 44 > Date : 2018-02-26 > > Abstract: > This document defines a YANG data model for control and management > of the radio link interfaces, and their connectivity to packet > (typically Ethernet) interfaces in a microwave/millimeter wave node. > The data nodes for management of the interface protection > functionality is broken out into a separate and generic YANG data > model in order to make it available also for other interface types. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.= org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From nobody Wed Mar 21 10:45:44 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2243E127863 for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear authors, earlier today I had a chat with Qilei on the need for signaling at the Flex= E client level. Scrolling the implementation agreement we found section 5.2= .1.7 and 5.2.2.6 on the control function in the transmit and receive direct= ion. I have to admit that the text is not very clear and leaves room for in= terpretation but it seems that the control function is the one that decides= which calendar slots are used in the transmit direction and the extracts t= hem in the receive direction. This would make me think that there is no nee= d for signaling at the FlexE client level. Am I wrong? Section 5.2.1.7 and section 5.2.2.6 copied below. Thanks Daniele 5.2.1.7 Control The control function manages which calendar slots each FlexE client is inse= rted into and inserts the FlexE overhead on each FlexE PHY in the transmit = direction. 5.2.2.6 Control The control function manages which calendar slots each FlexE client is extr= acted from and extract the FlexE overhead from each FlexE PHY in the receiv= e direction. --_000_VI1PR07MB316783E06F5EF698AC53C33FF0AA0VI1PR07MB3167eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear authors,

earlier today I had a chat with Qilei on the need f= or signaling at the FlexE client level. Scrolling the implementation agreem= ent we found section 5.2.1.7 and 5.2.2.6 on the control function in the tra= nsmit and receive direction. I have to admit that the text is not very clear and leaves room for interpretatio= n but it seems that the control function is the one that decides which cale= ndar slots are used in the transmit direction and the extracts them in the = receive direction. This would make me think that there is no need for signaling at the FlexE client level. Am= I wrong?

Section 5.2.1.7 and section 5.2.2.6 copied below. <= o:p>

Thanks

Daniele 

5.2.1.7 Control

The control function manages which calendar slots e= ach FlexE client is inserted into and inserts the FlexE overhead on each Fl= exE PHY in the transmit direction.

5.2.2.6 Control

The control function manages which calendar slots e= ach FlexE client is extracted from and extract the FlexE overhead from each= FlexE PHY in the receive direction.

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What are the events that  trigger state transitions? I understood that there are local events that the optical transponder creates and there can also be external events coming from an SDN controller for example. Slide 6 only shows half of the picture: when the FSM of an OT decides to change its state, the remote transponder has to do exactly the same state transition. If the two transponders terminating the optical signal are not configured consistently, no traffic can be carried across the optical path. This means that state changes require coordination between the two optical transponders. How is this accomplished such that the service disruption time is minimized? Slide 6 shows an example where the modulation scheme is changed from 16-QAM to QPSK. This reduces the data rate of the traffic to 50% (from 200Gbps to 100Gbps for example). I suppose that the traffic that can be dropped must be best effort traffic. These network operations issues need to be addressed in the draft for this specific optical transponder FSM use case. Otherwise, its applicability is doubtful. 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What are the events that trigger state transitions? > the FSM is installed by the SDN controller in the agent of the transponder and then runs there. We enabled this instruction with a NETCONF message. For the case of a transponder, the events can be a BER above the threshold or the OSNR below a threshold or some other monitored parameter. We assumed these parameters monitored at the DSP of coherent receiver. > I understood that there are local events that the optical transponder > creates and there can also be external events coming from an SDN controller > for example. > The events are detected (more than created) by the transponder at the receiver end. The SDN controller only instructs the transponder about the possible events and reactions by setting the thresholds and the reconfiguration settings. So, the SDN controller only instructs the transponder. > > Slide 6 only shows half of the picture: when the FSM of an OT decides to > change its state, the remote transponder has to do exactly the same state > transition. > If the two transponders terminating the optical signal are not configured > consistently, no traffic can be carried across the optical path. This means > that state > changes require coordination between the two optical transponders. How is > this accomplished such that the service disruption time is minimized? > One of the actions when the event is detected is this coordination. The transponder at the receiver side sends a message to the transmitter to synchronize about the transmission parameters to be adopted. This message can be sent over a control channel. This way both the tx and rx know the format, FEC, and so on. We mentioned this in the draft. We will add a more detailed paragraph in the new version of the draft. > > Slide 6 shows an example where the modulation scheme is changed from > 16-QAM to QPSK. This reduces the data rate of the traffic to 50% (from > 200Gbps > to 100Gbps for example). I suppose that the traffic that can be dropped > must be best effort traffic. > Yes, right. We can also expand this in the new version, by referring to service classes use cases from Telecom Italia and DT. > > These network operations issues need to be addressed in the draft for this > specific optical transponder FSM use case. Otherwise, its applicability is > doubtful. > > Ok. We'll clarify these points in the version 01. Thanks. Best, Nicola > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > --000000000000b3d09d0567fe6e80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Dieter,

answers inline:

2018-03-21 19= :54 GMT+01:00 Dieter Beller <Dieter.Beller@nokia.com>:=
Hi Nicola,

as there was no time left for providing my comments at the end of the CCAMP= session this morning, I am providing my comments by e-mail:

Are you assuming that the FSM is running autonomously on the optical transp= onder? What are the events that=C2=A0 trigger state transitions?

the FSM is installed by the SDN controller in the ag= ent of the transponder and then runs there. We enabled this instruction wit= h a NETCONF <edit-config> message.

For the case of= a transponder, the events can be a BER above the threshold or the OSNR bel= ow a threshold or some other monitored parameter. We assumed these paramete= rs monitored at the DSP of coherent receiver.
=C2=A0
I understood that there are local events that the optical transponder creat= es and there can also be external events coming from an SDN controller for = example.

The events are detected (more than created) by the t= ransponder at the receiver end. The SDN controller only instructs the trans= ponder about the possible events and reactions by setting the thresholds an= d the reconfiguration settings. So, the SDN controller only instructs the t= ransponder.

=C2=A0

Slide 6 only shows half of the picture: when the FSM of an OT decides to ch= ange its state, the remote transponder has to do exactly the same state tra= nsition.
If the two transponders terminating the optical signal are not configured c= onsistently, no traffic can be carried across the optical path. This means = that state
changes require coordination between the two optical transponders. How is t= his accomplished such that the service disruption time is minimized?

One of the actions when the event is detected is thi= s coordination. The transponder at the receiver side sends a message to the= =C2=A0transmitter to synchronize about the transmission parameters to be a= dopted. This message can be sent over a control channel. This way both the = tx and rx know the format, FEC, and so on.

We mentioned = this in the draft. We will add a more detailed paragraph in the new version= of the draft.

=C2=A0

Slide 6 shows an example where the modulation scheme is changed from 16-QAM= to QPSK. This reduces the data rate of the traffic to 50% (from 200Gbps to 100Gbps for example). I suppose that the traffic that can be dropped mus= t be best effort traffic.

Yes, right. We can also expand this in the new versi= on, by referring to service classes use cases from Telecom Italia and DT.

=C2=A0

These network operations issues need to be addressed in the draft for this = specific optical transponder FSM use case. Otherwise, its applicability is = doubtful.


Ok. We'll clarify these points in the version 01= .

Thanks.

Best,
Nicola =C2=A0

=C2=A0

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--000000000000b3d09d0567fe6e80-- From nobody Thu Mar 22 11:50:07 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietf.org Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64E581242EA; Thu, 22 Mar 2018 11:50:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: ccamp@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.76.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152174460530.4282.11167034041582077352@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 11:50:05 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-00.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 18:50:05 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane WG of the IETF. Title : Information Encoding for WSON with Impairments Validation Authors : Giovanni Martinelli Xian Zhang Gabriele M. Galimberti Young Lee Fatai Zhang Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-00.txt Pages : 12 Date : 2018-03-22 Abstract: Impairment-Aware (IA) Routing and Wavelength Assignment (RWA) function might be required in Wavelength Switched Optical Networks (WSON) that already support RWA. This document defines proper encoding to support this operation. It goes in addition to the available impairment-free WSON encoding and it is fully compatible with it. As the information model, the encoding is independent from control plane architectures and protocol implementations. Its definitions can be used in related protocol extensions. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-encode/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-00 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Mar 23 21:13:39 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA1E41273E2 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2018 21:13:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.211 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.211 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MQv1h30bJvmA for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2018 21:13:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DA03127369 for ; Fri, 23 Mar 2018 21:13:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 11352B8177B; Fri, 23 Mar 2018 21:13:24 -0700 (PDT) To: zali@cisco.com, jpv@cisco.com, ancaz@cisco.com, jonathan.newton@cw.com, akatlas@gmail.com, db3546@att.com, aretana.ietf@gmail.com, daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com, zhangfatai@huawei.com X-PHP-Originating-Script: 30:errata_mail_lib.php From: RFC Errata System Cc: naiming@cisco.com, ccamp@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <20180324041324.11352B8177B@rfc-editor.org> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2018 21:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Archived-At: Subject: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5817 (5299) X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2018 04:13:39 -0000 The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5817, "Graceful Shutdown in MPLS and Generalized MPLS Traffic Engineering Networks". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5299 -------------------------------------- Type: Technical Reported by: Naiming Shen Section: 4.1 Original Text ------------- The OSPF and IS-IS procedures for graceful shutdown of TE links are similar to the graceful restart of OSPF and IS-IS as described in [RFC4203] and [RFC5307], respectively. Specifically, the node where graceful shutdown of a link is desired originates the TE LSA or IS- IS-LSP containing a Link TLV for the link under graceful shutdown with the Traffic Engineering metric set to 0xffffffff, 0 as unreserved bandwidth. Corrected Text -------------- The OSPF and IS-IS procedures for graceful shutdown of TE links are similar to the graceful restart of OSPF and IS-IS as described in [RFC4203] and [RFC5307], respectively. Specifically, the node where graceful shutdown of a link is desired originates the TE LSA or IS- IS-LSP containing a Link TLV for the link under graceful shutdown with the Traffic Engineering metric set to 0xffffffff for OSPF and to 0xffffff for IS-IS, 0 as unreserved bandwidth. Notes ----- IS-IS TE Default Metric is a 24-bit unsigned integer as defined in RFC 5305 section 3.7 "Sub-TLV 18: Traffic Engineering Default Metric"; while in OSPF, RFC 3630 section 2.5.5, the OSPF TE metric is four octets in length. Instructions: ------------- This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. -------------------------------------- RFC5817 (draft-ietf-ccamp-mpls-graceful-shutdown-13) -------------------------------------- Title : Graceful Shutdown in MPLS and Generalized MPLS Traffic Engineering Networks Publication Date : April 2010 Author(s) : Z. Ali, JP. Vasseur, A. Zamfir, J. Newton Category : INFORMATIONAL Source : Common Control and Measurement Plane Area : Routing Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From nobody Mon Mar 26 01:30:46 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E00A12D94A for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 01:30:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.211 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.211 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id d3mIVHSc4W0J for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 01:30:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4ED712D7E8 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 01:30:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhreml708-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.106]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id F0938A2B2B7CB; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 09:30:22 +0100 (IST) Received: from DGGEML401-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.3.17.32) by lhreml708-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.49) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.382.0; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 09:30:24 +0100 Received: from DGGEML501-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.4.180]) by DGGEML401-HUB.china.huawei.com ([fe80::89ed:853e:30a9:2a79%31]) with mapi id 14.03.0361.001; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 16:30:15 +0800 From: "Zhangfatai (Fatai Zhang)" To: "giuseppe.fioccola@telecomitalia.it" , "kwangkoog.lee@kt.com" , Leeyoung , 'Dhruv Dhody' , "OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS (oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com)" , Daniele Ceccarelli , Italo Busi CC: "CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org)" , Daniele Ceccarelli Thread-Topic: IPR polling on [draft-fioccola-ccamp-l1csm-yang] Thread-Index: AdPE3JrSlLuZcIrUQWiivGB8wFLJ+Q== Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 08:30:15 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.74.163.186] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_F82A4B6D50F9464B8EBA55651F541CF8AB65639EDGGEML501MBSchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: [CCAMP] IPR polling on [draft-fioccola-ccamp-l1csm-yang] X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 08:30:43 -0000 --_000_F82A4B6D50F9464B8EBA55651F541CF8AB65639EDGGEML501MBSchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Authors, Contributors, CCAMP, The next step in our agenda is to consider WG adoption of [draft-fioccola-c= camp-l1csm-yang]. In preparation for WG adoption here is the IPR polling. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see R= FCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropria= te. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the= above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are awa= re of any relevant IPR. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or co= ntributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which= encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an = IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or = discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please se= e the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki= /IntellectualProperty. Thanks Fatai & Daniele --_000_F82A4B6D50F9464B8EBA55651F541CF8AB65639EDGGEML501MBSchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Authors= , Contributors, CCAMP,

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The next step in our agenda is= to consider WG adoption of [draft-fioccola-ccamp-l1csm-yang]. In pre= paration for WG adoption here is the IPR polling.

Are you= aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above?=

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"N= o, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"

or=

"Y= es, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

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If so, = has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 397= 9, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?

If yes = to the above, please state either:

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"Y= es, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"=

or=

"N= o, the IPR has not been disclosed"

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If you = answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. If = you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above = by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR.

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NOTE: T= HIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES.

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If you = are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or contribut= or, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encour= ages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from partici= pating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. F= or more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/tra= c/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

 

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--_000_F82A4B6D50F9464B8EBA55651F541CF8AB65639EDGGEML501MBSchi_-- From nobody Mon Mar 26 01:32:18 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 571AB1243F6 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 01:32:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.211 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.211 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yCWHldr1BVaN for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 01:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 444851204DA for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 01:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhreml703-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.108]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id F3C1CB5736C20; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 09:32:10 +0100 (IST) Received: from LHREML504-MBS.china.huawei.com ([10.201.109.59]) by lhreml703-cah.china.huawei.com ([10.201.108.44]) with mapi id 14.03.0382.000; Mon, 26 Mar 2018 09:32:04 +0100 From: Italo Busi To: "Zhangfatai (Fatai Zhang)" , "giuseppe.fioccola@telecomitalia.it" , "kwangkoog.lee@kt.com" , Leeyoung , 'Dhruv Dhody' , "OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS (oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com)" , Daniele Ceccarelli CC: "CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org)" , Daniele Ceccarelli Thread-Topic: IPR polling on [draft-fioccola-ccamp-l1csm-yang] Thread-Index: AdPE3JrSlLuZcIrUQWiivGB8wFLJ+QAAEnLQ Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 08:32:03 +0000 Message-ID: <91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B15827EB8@lhreml504-mbs> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: it-IT, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.200.144.112] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B15827EB8lhreml504mbs_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] IPR polling on [draft-fioccola-ccamp-l1csm-yang] X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 08:32:16 -0000 --_000_91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B15827EB8lhreml504mbs_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft Italo From: Zhangfatai (Fatai Zhang) Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 10:30 AM To: giuseppe.fioccola@telecomitalia.it; kwangkoog.lee@kt.com; Leeyoung ; 'Dhruv Dhody' ; OSCAR GONZALEZ DE = DIOS (oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com) ; Daniele Ceccarelli ; Italo Busi Cc: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) ; Daniele Ceccarelli Subject: IPR polling on [draft-fioccola-ccamp-l1csm-yang] Authors, Contributors, CCAMP, The next step in our agenda is to consider WG adoption of [draft-fioccola-c= camp-l1csm-yang]. In preparation for WG adoption here is the IPR polling. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see R= FCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropria= te. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the= above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are awa= re of any relevant IPR. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or co= ntributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which= encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an = IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or = discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please se= e the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki= /IntellectualProperty. Thanks Fatai & Daniele --_000_91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B15827EB8lhreml504mbs_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

No, I'm not aware of a= ny IPR that applies to this draft

 

Italo

=  

From: = Zhangfatai (Fatai Zhang)
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 10:30 AM
To: giuseppe.fioccola@telecomitalia.it; kwangkoog.lee@kt.com; Leeyou= ng <leeyoung@huawei.com>; 'Dhruv Dhody' <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com>;= OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS (oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com) <oscar.gon= zalezdedios@telefonica.com>; Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>; Italo Busi <Italo.Busi@huawei.= com>
Cc: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) <ccamp@ietf.org>; Daniele Ceccarell= i <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>
Subject: IPR polling on [draft-fioccola-ccamp-l1csm-yang]=

 =

Authors, Contributors,= CCAMP,

 

The next step in our agenda is to consider WG= adoption of [draft-fioccola-ccamp-l1csm-yang]. In preparation for WG= adoption here is the IPR polling.

Are you aware of any I= PR that applies to draft identified above?

 

Please state either:

"No, I'm not awar= e of any IPR that applies to this draft"

or

"Yes, I'm aware o= f IPR that applies to this draft"

 

If so, has this IPR be= en disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 a= nd 5378 for more details)?

If yes to the above, p= lease state either:

 

"Yes, the IPR has= been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"

or

"No, the IPR has = not been disclosed"

 

If you answer no, plea= se provide any additional details you think appropriate. If you are listed = as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding t= o this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR.

 

NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO = ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES.

 

If you are on the CCAM= P WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind y= ou of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to not= ify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any= contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more infor= mation, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualPr= operty.

 

 

Thanks

 

Fatai & Daniele

 

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"CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org)" , Daniele Ceccarelli Thread-Topic: IPR polling on [draft-fioccola-ccamp-l1csm-yang] Thread-Index: AdPE3JrSlLuZcIrUQWiivGB8wFLJ+QAMHN6g Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 14:17:30 +0000 Message-ID: <7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173CFC26FE@sjceml521-mbs.china.huawei.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.192.11.83] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173CFC26FEsjceml521mbschi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] IPR polling on [draft-fioccola-ccamp-l1csm-yang] X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 14:17:50 -0000 --_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173CFC26FEsjceml521mbschi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Thanks, Young From: Zhangfatai (Fatai Zhang) Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 3:30 AM To: giuseppe.fioccola@telecomitalia.it; kwangkoog.lee@kt.com; Leeyoung ; 'Dhruv Dhody' ; OSCAR GONZALEZ DE = DIOS (oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com) ; Daniele Ceccarelli ; Italo Busi Cc: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) ; Daniele Ceccarelli Subject: IPR polling on [draft-fioccola-ccamp-l1csm-yang] Authors, Contributors, CCAMP, The next step in our agenda is to consider WG adoption of [draft-fioccola-c= camp-l1csm-yang]. In preparation for WG adoption here is the IPR polling. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see R= FCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropria= te. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the= above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are awa= re of any relevant IPR. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or co= ntributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which= encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an = IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or = discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please se= e the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki= /IntellectualProperty. Thanks Fatai & Daniele --_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173CFC26FEsjceml521mbschi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

=  

I am = not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

=  

Thank= s,

Young=

=  

From: = Zhangfatai (Fatai Zhang)
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 3:30 AM
To: giuseppe.fioccola@telecomitalia.it; kwangkoog.lee@kt.com; Leeyou= ng <leeyoung@huawei.com>; 'Dhruv Dhody' <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com>;= OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS (oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com) <oscar.gon= zalezdedios@telefonica.com>; Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>; Italo Busi <Italo.Busi@huawei.= com>
Cc: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) <ccamp@ietf.org>; Daniele Ceccarell= i <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>
Subject: IPR polling on [draft-fioccola-ccamp-l1csm-yang]=

 =

Authors, Contributors, CCAMP,

 

The next step in o= ur agenda is to consider WG adoption of [draft-fioccola-ccamp-l1csm-yang<= /a>]. In preparation for WG adoption here is the IPR polling.

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above?<= /o:p>

 

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"

or

"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

 

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (= see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?

If yes to the above, please state either:

 

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rule= s"

or

"No, the IPR has not been disclosed"

 

If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appr= opriate. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answe= r the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR.

 

NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES.

 

If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author = or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules = which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain f= rom participating in any contribution or discussion related to your undiscl= osed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.i= etf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

&nbs= p;

 

Thanks

 

Fatai & Daniele

 

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Thanks! Dhruv On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:30 AM, Zhangfatai (Fatai Zhang) < zhangfatai@huawei.com> wrote: > Authors, Contributors, CCAMP, > > > > The next step in our agenda is to consider WG adoption of [ > draft-fioccola-ccamp-l1csm-yang > ]. In > preparation for WG adoption here is the IPR polling. > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? > > > > Please state either: > > "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" > > or > > "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" > > > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see > RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? > > If yes to the above, please state either: > > > > "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" > > or > > "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" > > > > If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think > appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please > answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not > you are aware of any relevant IPR. > > > > NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. > > > > If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules > which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others > on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any > contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more > information, please see the RFCs listed above and > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Fatai & Daniele > > > --001a113ebda6943a65056853a8d0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=E2=80=8BNo, I'= ;m not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft!=C2=A0

Thanks!=C2=A0
= Dhruv

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:30 AM, Zhangfatai (Fatai Zhang) = <zhangfatai@huawei.com> wrote:

Authors= , Contributors, CCAMP,

= =C2=A0

The next step in our agenda is= to consider WG adoption of [draft-fioccola-ccamp-l1csm= -yang]. In preparation for WG adoption here is the IPR polling.

Are you= aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above?

= =C2=A0

Please = state either:

"N= o, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"<= /u>

or

"Y= es, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

= =C2=A0

If so, = has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 397= 9, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?

If yes = to the above, please state either:

= =C2=A0

"Y= es, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"

or

"N= o, the IPR has not been disclosed"

= =C2=A0

If you = answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. If = you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above = by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. =

= =C2=A0

NOTE: T= HIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES.<= /u>

= =C2=A0

If you = are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or contribut= or, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encour= ages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from partici= pating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. F= or more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.= org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.<= /span>

=C2=A0

= =C2=A0

Thanks<= u>

= =C2=A0

Fatai &= amp; Daniele

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Hi,

 

I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

Thanks much.

 

Kwang-koog Lee (KT)

 

From: Zhangfatai (Fatai Zhang) [mailto:zhangfatai@h= uawei.com]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 5:30 PM
To: giuseppe.fioccola@telecomitalia.it; =C0=CC=B1=A4=B1=B9(Network Intelligence Proj) <kwangkoo= g.lee@kt.com>; Leeyoung <leeyoung@huawei.com>; 'Dhruv Dhody' <d= hruv.ietf@gmail.com>; OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS (oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com) <oscar.gon= zalezdedios@telefonica.com>; Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccarelli@e= ricsson.com>; Italo Busi <Italo.Busi@huawei.com>
Cc: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) <ccamp@ietf.org>; Daniele Ceccarell= i <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>
Subject: IPR polling on [draft-fioccola-ccamp-l1csm-yang]=

 

Authors= , Contributors, CCAMP,

&n= bsp;

The next step in our agenda is= to consider WG adoption of [draft-fioccola-ccamp-l1csm-yang]. In pre= paration for WG adoption here is the IPR polling.

Are you= aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above?=

&n= bsp;

Please = state either:

"N= o, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"

or=

"Y= es, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

&n= bsp;

If so, = has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 397= 9, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?

If yes = to the above, please state either:

&n= bsp;

"Y= es, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"=

or=

"N= o, the IPR has not been disclosed"

&n= bsp;

If you = answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. If = you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above = by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR.

&n= bsp;

NOTE: T= HIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES.

&n= bsp;

If you = are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or contribut= or, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encour= ages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from partici= pating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. F= or more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/tra= c/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

 

&n= bsp;

Thanks<= o:p>

&n= bsp;

Fatai &= amp; Daniele

 

 

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--_000_5257FAFAFD4D674783D8B8EB1F6D7EC19C1F6FBCMAILMBX02_-- From nobody Tue Mar 27 01:26:12 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B7AD12D872 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 01:26:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.609 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.609 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QlamUcHFoL0d for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 01:26:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx02.telecomitalia.it (mx02.telecomitalia.it [217.169.121.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B721B126B7E for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 01:26:07 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: d9a97916-d8bff70000003a07-c8-5aba001ddd31 Received: from TELMBXB02RM001.telecomitalia.local ( [10.14.252.27]) (using TLS with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx02.telecomitalia.it () with SMTP id B9.45.14855.D100ABA5; Tue, 27 Mar 2018 10:26:05 +0200 (CEST) From: Fioccola Giuseppe To: "Zhangfatai (Fatai Zhang)" , "kwangkoog.lee@kt.com" , Leeyoung , 'Dhruv Dhody' , "OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS (oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com)" , Daniele Ceccarelli , Italo Busi CC: "CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org)" , Daniele Ceccarelli Thread-Topic: IPR polling on [draft-fioccola-ccamp-l1csm-yang] Thread-Index: AdPE3JrSlLuZcIrUQWiivGB8wFLJ+QAyHdBA Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 08:26:05 +0000 Message-ID: <5224301f16464fce9d83bff3513f8b78@TELMBXB02RM001.telecomitalia.local> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: it-IT, en-US Content-Language: it-IT X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.14.252.240] x-ti-disclaimer: Disclaimer1 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_5224301f16464fce9d83bff3513f8b78TELMBXB02RM001telecomit_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrJKsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsXCxfdHWleWYVeUwdVvyhZP5txgsZi2fBmT Rfe8n0wWfz/sZrVo3r4FKDbP1eLl/GeMFn3N51kdODx+fb3K5rFz1l12j5Yjb1k9liz5yeTx +HkDk0fnb+YAtqgGRpvEvLz8ksSSVIWU1OJkWyWXzOLknMTM3NQihZDUnNTk/FwlhcwUWyVj JYWCnMTk1NzUvBJbpcSCgtS8FCU7LgUMYANUlpmnkJqXnJ+SmZduq+QZ7K9rYWFqqWuoZBdY mlpckq+Qm1pcnJienpmvkJqwXjDj3pZd7AW7IyvOnn/B2sA4xb+LkZNDQsBEYtHmJawgtpDA VCaJxZ/TQWw2ARuJg69OsHUxcnGICHxlkjg+cxkjSIJZIFXixbMdLCC2MFDRpGW/2EFsEQE7 ifmP5rFC2EYS97e8ZQaxWQRUJfbdaAaL8woESkxe/pcRYlmoxPfrrWA2p0CYxMKZh9hAbEYB WYkJuxdB7RKXeDH9BDvEoQISS/acZ4awRSVePv7HCmEbSGxduo8FwlaU2PoJpl5GYuGRyawQ c/Iler48Y4G4QVDi5MwnLBMYRWchWTELSdksJGUQcT2JG1OnsEHY2hLLFr5mhrB1JWb8O8SC LL6AkX0Vo2huhYGRXgkkXjNLEnMyE/UySzYxAtPXzZWVYjsYW9c6H2IU4GBU4uEN/LEzSog1 say4MvcQowQHs5IIb/ZSoBBvSmJlVWpRfnxRaU5q8SFGH2BITmSWEk3OB6bWvJJ4QxMLS0Nj CwsjQwszUxzCSuK8qXt2RAkJpAMTXnZqakFqEcw4Jg5OqQbGltXVR7YyabYqVJwRLRaaopAR /uN5rXrTyc9tqdKRmxlV/xT9+idYyaq5sKw+bdWcJZN38Z/fzSPgXJtbcGvivuipGZPOfNpn LvrsatrelKDr+s8ycl08pwr+ESg/uS0nMky/M3D2o5be7ZbW1Yk3GGZrn+KzrnUtPVE+jYUn ZdWvsvXXvA2UWIozEg21mIuKEwH9GLwejAMAAA== Archived-At: Subject: [CCAMP] R: IPR polling on [draft-fioccola-ccamp-l1csm-yang] X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 08:26:11 -0000 --_000_5224301f16464fce9d83bff3513f8b78TELMBXB02RM001telecomit_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Best Regards, Giuseppe Da: Zhangfatai (Fatai Zhang) [mailto:zhangfatai@huawei.com] Inviato: luned=EC 26 marzo 2018 10:30 A: Fioccola Giuseppe; kwangkoog.lee@kt.com; Leeyoung; 'Dhruv Dhody'; OSCAR G= ONZALEZ DE DIOS (oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com); Daniele Ceccarelli; I= talo Busi Cc: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org); Daniele Ceccarelli Oggetto: IPR polling on [draft-fioccola-ccamp-l1csm-yang] Authors, Contributors, CCAMP, The next step in our agenda is to consider WG adoption of [draft-fioccola-cc= amp-l1csm-yang]. In preparation for WG adoption here is the IPR polling. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RF= Cs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriat= e. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the a= bove by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware= of any relevant IPR. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or con= tributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which e= ncourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IET= F contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or disc= ussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the= RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/Intel= lectualProperty. 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Hi All,

I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

 

Best R= egards,

&= nbsp;

Giusep= pe

&= nbsp;

Da: Zhangfatai (Fatai Zhang) [mailto:zhangfatai@= huawei.com]
Inviato: luned=EC 26 marzo 2018 10:30
A: Fioccola Giuseppe; kwangkoog.lee@kt.com; Leeyoung; 'Dhruv Dhody';= OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS (oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com); Daniele Cecca= relli; Italo Busi
Cc: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org); Daniele Ceccarelli
Oggetto: IPR polling on [draft-fioccola-ccamp-l1csm-yang]<= /span>

 <= /o:p>

Authors, Contributors, CCAMP,

 

The= next step in our agenda is to consider WG adoption of [draft-fioccola-ccam= p-l1csm-yang]. In preparation for WG adoption here is the IPR polling.

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified= above?

 

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this d= raft"

or

"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft&qu= ot;

 

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IET= F IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?

If yes to the above, please state either:

 

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with= IETF IPR rules"

or

"No, the IPR has not been disclosed"=

 

If you answer no, please provide any additional details y= ou think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or contributor= please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IP= R.

 

NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S= TO LINES.

 

If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed= as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IE= TF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution,= or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related= to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed a= bove and http:/= /trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

 

 

Thanks

 

Fatai & Daniele

 

Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle= persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante d= alla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora a= bbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di da= rne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione= , Grazie.

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Rispetta l'ambiente. Non stampare questa mail se non è necessa= rio.
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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. BR Daniele From: Fioccola Giuseppe [mailto:giuseppe.fioccola@telecomitalia.it] Sent: marted=EC 27 marzo 2018 10:26 To: Zhangfatai (Fatai Zhang) ; kwangkoog.lee@kt.com;= Leeyoung ; 'Dhruv Dhody' ; OSCA= R GONZALEZ DE DIOS (oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com) ; Daniele Ceccarelli ; = Italo Busi Cc: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) ; Daniele Ceccarelli Subject: R: IPR polling on [draft-fioccola-ccamp-l1csm-yang] Hi All, I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Best Regards, Giuseppe Da: Zhangfatai (Fatai Zhang) [mailto:zhangfatai@huawei.com] Inviato: luned=EC 26 marzo 2018 10:30 A: Fioccola Giuseppe; kwangkoog.lee@kt.com; Le= eyoung; 'Dhruv Dhody'; OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS (oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefon= ica.com); Daniele Ceccarelli; I= talo Busi Cc: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org); Daniele Ceccarelli Oggetto: IPR polling on [draft-fioccola-ccamp-l1csm-yang] Authors, Contributors, CCAMP, The next step in our agenda is to consider WG adoption of [draft-fioccola-c= camp-l1csm-yang]. In preparation for WG adoption here is the IPR polling. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see R= FCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropria= te. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the= above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are awa= re of any relevant IPR. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or co= ntributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which= encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an = IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or = discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please se= e the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki= /IntellectualProperty. Thanks Fatai & Daniele Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle per= sone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dall= a conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abb= iate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di dar= ne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione= , Grazie. 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I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.<= /span>

 

BR
Daniele 

 

From: Fioccola Giuseppe [mailto:giuseppe.fioccola@t= elecomitalia.it]
Sent: marted=EC 27 marzo 2018 10:26
To: Zhangfatai (Fatai Zhang) <zhangfatai@huawei.com>; kwangkoo= g.lee@kt.com; Leeyoung <leeyoung@huawei.com>; 'Dhruv Dhody' <dhruv= .ietf@gmail.com>; OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS (oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonic= a.com) <oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com>; Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>; Italo Busi <Italo.B= usi@huawei.com>
Cc: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) <ccamp@ietf.org>; Daniele Ceccarell= i <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>
Subject: R: IPR polling on [draft-fioccola-ccamp-l1csm-yang]

 =

Hi All,

I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.=

 

Best = Regards,

 = ;

Giuse= ppe

 = ;

Da: Zhangfatai (Fatai Zhang) [mailto:zhangfatai@huawei.com]
Inviato: luned=EC 26 marzo 2018 10:30
A: Fioccola Giuseppe; kwangk= oog.lee@kt.com; Leeyoung; 'Dhruv Dhody'; OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS (oscar.gonzalezdedios@telef= onica.com); Daniele Ceccarelli; Italo Busi
Cc: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org); Da= niele Ceccarelli
Oggetto: IPR polling on [draft-fioccola-ccamp-l1csm-yang]

 =

Authors, Contributors, CCAMP,

 

The= next step in our agenda is to consider WG adoption of [draft-fioccola-cc= amp-l1csm-yang]. In preparation for WG adoption here is the IPR polling.

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identifi= ed above?

 

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this= draft"

or

"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft&= quot;

 

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with I= ETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?=

If yes to the above, please state either:

 

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance wit= h IETF IPR rules"

or

"No, the IPR has not been disclosed"

 

If you answer no, please provide any additional details= you think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or contribut= or please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant I= PR.

 

NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE= 'S TO LINES.

 

If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not liste= d as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the = IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution,= or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related= to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed = above and http= ://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

 

 

Thanks

 

Fatai & Daniele

 

Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono = indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qu= alsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevut= o questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata= comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie.

This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileg= ed information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, = printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intende= d recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks= .

Rispetta l'ambiente. Non stampare questa mail se non =E8 necessario.=

 

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