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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane WG of the IETF.

        Title           : Information Model for Wavelength Switched Optical Networks (WSONs) with Impairments Validation
        Authors         : Giovanni Martinelli
                          Haomian Zhang
                          Gabriele M. Galimberti
                          Young Lee
                          Fatai Zhang
	Filename        : draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-info-07.txt
	Pages           : 19
	Date            : 2018-09-04

Abstract:
   This document defines an information model to support Impairment-
   Aware (IA) Routing and Wavelength Assignment (RWA) functionality.
   This information model extends the information model for impairment-
   free RWA process in WSON to facilitate computation of paths where
   optical impairment constraints need to considered.


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Reviewer: Robert Wilton
Review result: On the Right Track

This is an "early review" rather than a WG LC review.

The YANG module is a relatively small and simple model to configure and
identify UNIs and L1 services.  The draft and model are fairly easy to follow
and both are in reasonable shape.  The YANG modules may benefit from some
fairly cosmetic cleanup, and minor restructuring.

Minor comments on the document:

1) In the abstract, and early part of the introduction, it wasn't particularly
clear whether this YANG model is intended is a "service" level YANG model, e.g.
to run on a controller, or a "device" level YANG model, intended to instantiate
YANG models on network devices.  So, I would suggest making this really clear
in the abstract, and early introduction, and perhaps reference RFC 8199

2) The diagram in 1.1 is slightly mis-aligned.

Comments on the YANG model:

1) Please check alignment, indentation, perhaps run the module through "pyang
-f yang" to help ensure alignment is OK.

2) I Suggest leaving a blank line between leaf statements (e.g. for UNI access
attributes grouping).

3) As a person preference, I try and minimize groupings because I think that
they obfuscate reading the source YANG model somewhat.  To that end, I would
suggest removing some of the groupings, and only keep the ones that are really
useful.  Groupings can always be introduced in future as a fully backwards
compatible change, so there isn't really any benefit in adding two much
structure now.

4) Please add reference statements where possible, e.g. for protocol, coding,
optical_interface

5) I suggest changing optical_interface => optical-interface

6) protocol-coding-optical_interface grouping: I Suggest hypenating the entire
name to "protocol-coding-optical_interface"

7) Should any of the UNI parameters be marked as mandatory?

8) uni-attributes grouping:
I recommend removing this grouping and just putting the single leaf (which is a
key) and "uses" statement inline in "uni-list".

9) "UNI-ID":
I would recommend renaming this key to "uni-id", but UNI should be used instead
of uni in the description.

10) I suggest changing the description for "access" to indicate that it is for
access related content.

11) I suggest renaming "uni-list" to "uni" and to put the list into a "unis"
container (so the path to the list entry becomes access/unis/uni), or another
option would be to rename "access" to unis.

12) l1cs container.
Is "l1cs" the most meaningful top level name?  Perhaps using the long form
"l1-connectivity-services" or maybe just "l1-connectivity" might be better for
someone who is not so familiar with the acronym.

13) service container
 - Suggest renaming this container to "services".
 - Suggest renaming "service-list" to "service"
 - Suggest possibly renaming "subscriber-l1vc-id" to just "service-id".
 - Suggest removing the "service-config" container and having the contents
 directly under the list entry. - Suggest adding two containers "endpoint-1"
 and "endpoint-2" each of which contain "id" and "uni".  Another choice would
 be to have a list of endpoints, requiring unique ids (which you could restrict
 to a maximum of two entries today, which would allow it to be increased in
 future if requried).  A list might be more useful if you can ever have more
 have 2 endpoints.  I don't know if that is ever possible with EPON or FlexE? -
 Should the service id, endpoint ids or endpoint uni references be mandatory at
 all?

 14) Should any of the id's have a maximum length defined, probably sticking
 some reasonable bound on them would be sensible.

 15) The description for the subscriber-l1vc-sls-service-attribute looks
 potentially wrong, or otherwise misleading. - perhaps rename "time-start" to
 "start-time" - should performance-metric be a leaf-list?  E.g. is more than
 one performance-metric allowed?  If only one then the comment needs to be
 updated.

 If you applied all of my comments above, I think that tree structure of your
 module would look something like this:

 module: ietf-l1csm
    +--rw l1-connectivity
       +--rw access
       |  +--rw unis
       |     +--rw uni* [id]
       |        +--rw id                   string
       |        +--rw protocol?            identityref
       |        +--rw coding?              identityref
       |        +--rw optical_interface?   identityref
       +--rw services
          +--rw service* [service-id]
             +--rw id                      string
             +--rw endpoint-1
             |  +--rw id                   string
             |  +--rw uni    -> /l1-connectivity/access/unis/uni/id
             +--rw endpoint-2
             |  +--rw id                   string
             |  +--rw uni    -> /l1-connectivity/access/unis/uni/id
             +--rw start-time?                 yang:date-and-time
             +--rw time-interval?              Int32
             +--rw performance-metric?         Identityref

For the types module:
17) I would suggest expanding "GigE" to "Gigabit Ethernet" in the protocol type
description, similarly for the other types.  Perhaps be more descriptive for
the difference between 10GE WAN vs LAN. 18) For fiber channel, is the
100/200/400 very meaningful, or should there be units here. 19) For the
coding-func, are the clause references to IEEE 802.3?  If so, that may be
useful to include in the reference and descriptions.  Also, do you want the
clause numbers in the names, it seems like this is something that could
potentially change over time and become less meaningful. 20) A similar comment
re clauses also applies for the optical-interface identities. 21) Identity
performance-metriclist should probably just be performance-metric.

Other doc comments:

22) The JSON example is good, but it was also be useful to have a short
paragraph describing in English what the example represents ... although I
appreciate that it is pretty trivial.

23) The security section mentions that it will indicate
sensitivity/vulnerability but then doesn't do this.


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Working group,

Now that all the IPR declarations have been collected is time to start a tw=
o weeks working group last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-avail=
ability-09.
The last call ends on Friday September 21st . Please send you comments to t=
he CCAMP mailing list.

All the IPR declarations from authors and contributors have been collected =
and can be found in the history of the document: https://datatracker.ietf.o=
rg/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability/history/
Please note that 1 IPR was disclosed against this draft https://datatracker=
.ietf.org/ipr/2414/

Thanks,
Daniele, Fatai, Oscar


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">All the IPR declarations from a=
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 of the document:
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwi=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Yes, support.

The availability OSPF extension is published as RFC8330, RSVP-TE extension =
is needed to complete the whole process.

BR,
Amy (as a author)

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Working group,

Now that all the IPR declarations have been collected is time to start a tw=
o weeks working group last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-avail=
ability-09.
The last call ends on Friday September 21st . Please send you comments to t=
he CCAMP mailing list.

All the IPR declarations from authors and contributors have been collected =
and can be found in the history of the document: https://datatracker.ietf.o=
rg/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability/history/
Please note that 1 IPR was disclosed against this draft https://datatracker=
.ietf..org/ipr/2414/<https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2414/>

Thanks,
Daniele, Fatai, Oscar


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Yes, support. <o:p></o=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">The availability OSPF =
extension is published as RFC8330, RSVP-TE extension is needed to complete =
the whole process.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">BR,<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Amy (as a author)<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] <=
b>On Behalf Of
</b>Daniele Ceccarelli<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 07, 2018 2:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) &lt;ccamp@ietf.org&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [CCAMP] WG last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-=
availability-09<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Working group,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Now that all the IPR declarations have been collecte=
d is time to start a two weeks working group last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-=
rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability-09.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The last call ends on Friday September 21<sup>st</su=
p> . Please send you comments to the CCAMP mailing list.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">All the IPR declarations from authors and contributo=
rs have been collected and can be found in the history of the document:
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwi=
dth-availability/history/">
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availab=
ility/history/</a>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Please note that 1 IPR was disclosed against this dr=
aft <a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2414/">
https://datatracker.ietf..org/ipr/2414/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Daniele, Fatai, Oscar<o:p></o:p></p>
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yes/support as co-author.
This document is an important piece of work on links with discretely
variable BW, e.g., microwave links.

Regards,
Greg

On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 10:59 PM, Daniele Ceccarelli <
daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com> wrote:

> Working group,
>
>
>
> Now that all the IPR declarations have been collected is time to start a
> two weeks working group last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-
> bandwidth-availability-09.
>
> The last call ends on Friday September 21st . Please send you comments to
> the CCAMP mailing list.
>
>
>
> All the IPR declarations from authors and contributors have been collected
> and can be found in the history of the document:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-
> bandwidth-availability/history/
>
> Please note that 1 IPR was disclosed against this draft
> https://datatracker.ietf..org/ipr/2414/
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2414/>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Daniele, Fatai, Oscar
>
>
>
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> CCAMP mailing list
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<div dir=3D"ltr">yes/support as co-author.<div>This document is an importan=
t piece of work on links with discretely variable BW, e.g., microwave links=
.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Greg</div></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 10:59 P=
M, Daniele Ceccarelli <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:daniele.cecca=
relli@ericsson.com" target=3D"_blank">daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com</a>&g=
t;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Working group,<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Now that all the IPR declaratio=
ns have been collected is time to start a two weeks working group last call=
 on draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-<wbr>bandwidth-availability-09.<u></u><u></u><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The last call ends on Friday Se=
ptember 21<sup>st</sup> . Please send you comments to the CCAMP mailing lis=
t.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">All the IPR declarations from a=
uthors and contributors have been collected and can be found in the history=
 of the document:
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwi=
dth-availability/history/" target=3D"_blank">
https://datatracker.ietf.org/<wbr>doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-<wbr>bandwid=
th-availability/<wbr>history/</a>
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Please note that 1 IPR was disc=
losed against this draft
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2414/" target=3D"_blank">https:=
//datatracker.ietf..org/<wbr>ipr/2414/</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Daniele, Fatai, Oscar<u></u><u>=
</u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
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Hi all CCAMPers,

draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-01 (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ye-c=
camp-mw-topo-yang/) defines a topology model specifically for microwave net=
works with a focus on parameters for management of the dynamically variable=
 bandwidth of a microwave radio link.

At the last IETF meeting we were asked to consider making the model more ge=
neric and applicable for all transport technologies with variable bit-rates=
.

At the moment, the team working with the model has a background in microwav=
e and not enough competence about other technologies that might benefit fro=
m this type of a model. We are therefore looking for someone having the int=
erest and knowledge to help us to make the model more generic, if applicabl=
e.

Regards
JonasA
on behalf of all authors

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-01 =
(</span><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-=
yang/"><span lang=3D"EN-US">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ye-ccamp=
-mw-topo-yang/</span></a><span lang=3D"EN-US">)
 defines a topology model specifically for microwave networks with a focus =
on parameters for management of the dynamically variable bandwidth of a mic=
rowave radio link.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">At the last IETF meeting we wer=
e asked to consider making the model more generic and applicable for all tr=
ansport technologies with variable bit-rates.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">At the moment, the team working=
 with the model has a background in microwave and not enough competence abo=
ut other technologies that might benefit from this type of a model. We are =
therefore looking for someone having
 the interest and knowledge to help us to make the model more generic, if a=
pplicable.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">JonasA<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">on behalf of all authors<o:p></=
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Yes, support (as an author).

BR
Hao

From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Daniele Ceccarelli
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Subject: [CCAMP] WG last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availab=
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Working group,

Now that all the IPR declarations have been collected is time to start a tw=
o weeks working group last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-avail=
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The last call ends on Friday September 21st . Please send you comments to t=
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All the IPR declarations from authors and contributors have been collected =
and can be found in the history of the document: https://datatracker.ietf.o=
rg/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability/history/
Please note that 1 IPR was disclosed against this draft https://datatracker=
.ietf..org/ipr/2414/<https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2414/>

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Daniele, Fatai, Oscar


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ounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniele Ceccarelli<br>
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<b>To:</b> CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a>) &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
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availability-09<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Working group,<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Now that all the IPR declaratio=
ns have been collected is time to start a two weeks working group last call=
 on draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability-09.<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The last call ends on Friday Se=
ptember 21<sup>st</sup> . Please send you comments to the CCAMP mailing lis=
t.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">All the IPR declarations from a=
uthors and contributors have been collected and can be found in the history=
 of the document:
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwi=
dth-availability/history/">
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availab=
ility/history/</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Please note that 1 IPR was disc=
losed against this draft
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2414/">https://datatracker.ietf=
..org/ipr/2414/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Yes, support.
This draft provides an important piece of work to address the availability =
requirements during the signaling process.

B.R.
Jia
From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Daniele Ceccarelli
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 2:00 PM
To: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org<mailto:ccamp@ietf.org>) <ccamp@ietf.org<mailto:cc=
amp@ietf.org>>
Subject: [CCAMP] WG last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availab=
ility-09

Working group,

Now that all the IPR declarations have been collected is time to start a tw=
o weeks working group last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-avail=
ability-09.
The last call ends on Friday September 21st . Please send you comments to t=
he CCAMP mailing list.

All the IPR declarations from authors and contributors have been collected =
and can be found in the history of the document: https://datatracker.ietf.o=
rg/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability/history/
Please note that 1 IPR was disclosed against this draft https://datatracker=
.ietf..org/ipr/2414/<https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2414/>

Thanks,
Daniele, Fatai, Oscar


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aft provides an important piece of work to address the availability require=
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ounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniele Ceccarelli<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 07, 2018 2:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> CCAMP (<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a>) &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org">ccamp@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [CCAMP] WG last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-=
availability-09<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Working group,<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Now that all the IPR declaratio=
ns have been collected is time to start a two weeks working group last call=
 on draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability-09.<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The last call ends on Friday Se=
ptember 21<sup>st</sup> . Please send you comments to the CCAMP mailing lis=
t.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">All the IPR declarations from a=
uthors and contributors have been collected and can be found in the history=
 of the document:
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwi=
dth-availability/history/">
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availab=
ility/history/</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Please note that 1 IPR was disc=
losed against this draft
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2414/">https://datatracker.ietf=
..org/ipr/2414/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Daniele, Fatai, Oscar<o:p></o:p=
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Yes, support.

Best Regards, Daniela

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To: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) <ccamp@ietf.org>
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ility-09

Working group,

Now that all the IPR declarations have been collected is time to start a tw=
o weeks working group last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-avail=
ability-09.
The last call ends on Friday September 21st . Please send you comments to t=
he CCAMP mailing list.

All the IPR declarations from authors and contributors have been collected =
and can be found in the history of the document: https://datatracker.ietf.o=
rg/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability/history/
Please note that 1 IPR was disclosed against this draft https://datatracker=
.ietf..org/ipr/2414/<https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2414/>

Thanks,
Daniele, Fatai, Oscar


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"> CCAMP &lt;ccamp-bounces@ietf.org&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniele Ceccarelli<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 07, 2018 8:00 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) &lt;ccamp@ietf.org&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [CCAMP] WG last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Working group,<o:p></o:p></span=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Now that all the IPR declaratio=
ns have been collected is time to start a two weeks working group last call=
 on draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability-09.<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The last call ends on Friday Se=
ptember 21<sup>st</sup> . Please send you comments to the CCAMP mailing lis=
t.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">All the IPR declarations from a=
uthors and contributors have been collected and can be found in the history=
 of the document:
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwi=
dth-availability/history/">
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availab=
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2414/">https://datatracker.ietf=
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I support this draft.

Thanks.
Young

From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Daniele Ceccarelli
Sent: Friday, September 7, 2018 1:00 AM
To: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) <ccamp@ietf.org>
Subject: [CCAMP] WG last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availab=
ility-09

Working group,

Now that all the IPR declarations have been collected is time to start a tw=
o weeks working group last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-avail=
ability-09.
The last call ends on Friday September 21st . Please send you comments to t=
he CCAMP mailing list.

All the IPR declarations from authors and contributors have been collected =
and can be found in the history of the document: https://datatracker.ietf.o=
rg/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability/history/
Please note that 1 IPR was disclosed against this draft https://datatracker=
.ietf..org/ipr/2414/<https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2414/>

Thanks,
Daniele, Fatai, Oscar


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b>On Behalf Of
</b>Daniele Ceccarelli<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 7, 2018 1:00 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) &lt;ccamp@ietf.org&gt;<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Now that all the IPR declarations have been collecte=
d is time to start a two weeks working group last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The last call ends on Friday September 21<sup>st</su=
p> . Please send you comments to the CCAMP mailing list.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">All the IPR declarations from authors and contributo=
rs have been collected and can be found in the history of the document:
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwi=
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<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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Young

Some more stray thoughts.

Those pesky security people have just updated TLS so the reference for
that is now RFC8446

The netmod group did not update the details of the YANG Module Names
registry in RFC7950 so a better reference, in the IANA Considerations,
is RFC6020; elsewhere I think that RFC7950 is the better reference.

You have 'Yang' in the Title, Introduction and in two of the reference
statements, all of which I think should be 'YANG' ('yang' is of course
correct in other places)

Some of the lines of description in the YANG module are over 90
characters, which is too long for an RFC.

Tom Petch


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> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
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>         Title           : A Yang Data Model for L1 Connectivity
Service Model (L1CSM)
>         Authors         : G. Fioccola
>                           K. Lee
>                           Y. Lee
>                           D. Dhody
>                           D. Ceccarelli
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Another stray thought

there are no reference statements for the imports which I think there
should be e.g.

  import ietf-yang-types {
  reference "RFC 6991 - Common YANG Data Types";
  prefix "yang";
  }

  import ietf-l1-service-types {
  reference "RFC XXXX - A Yang Data Model for L1 Connectivity
          Service Model (L1CSM)";
    prefix "l1-st";

Tom Petch

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> Young
>
> Some more stray thoughts.
>
> Those pesky security people have just updated TLS so the reference for
> that is now RFC8446
>
> The netmod group did not update the details of the YANG Module Names
> registry in RFC7950 so a better reference, in the IANA Considerations,
> is RFC6020; elsewhere I think that RFC7950 is the better reference.
>
> You have 'Yang' in the Title, Introduction and in two of the reference
> statements, all of which I think should be 'YANG' ('yang' is of course
> correct in other places)
>
> Some of the lines of description in the YANG module are over 90
> characters, which is too long for an RFC.
>
> Tom Petch
>
>
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> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
> > This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement
Plane
> WG of the IETF.
> >
> >         Title           : A Yang Data Model for L1 Connectivity
> Service Model (L1CSM)
> >         Authors         : G. Fioccola
> >                           K. Lee
> >                           Y. Lee
> >                           D. Dhody
> >                           D. Ceccarelli
> > Filename        : draft-ietf-ccamp-l1csm-yang-07.txt
> > Pages           : 25
> > Date            : 2018-08-30
> >
> > Abstract:
> >    This document provides a YANG data model for Layer 1 Connectivity
> >    Service Model (L1CSM). This YANG model is NMDA-compliant.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-l1csm-yang/
> >
> > There are also htmlized versions available at:
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane WG of the IETF.

        Title           : A YANG Data Model for L1 Connectivity Service Model (L1CSM)
        Authors         : G. Fioccola
                          K. Lee
                          Y. Lee
                          D. Dhody
                          D. Ceccarelli
	Filename        : draft-ietf-ccamp-l1csm-yang-08.txt
	Pages           : 27
	Date            : 2018-09-13

Abstract:
   This document provides a YANG data model for Layer 1 Connectivity
   Service Model (L1CSM). The intent of this document is to provide a
   transport service model exploiting YANG data model, which can be
   utilized by a client network controller to initiate a service
   request connectivity request as well as retrieving service states
   toward a transport network controller communicating with the client
   controller. This YANG model is NMDA-compliant.




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Hi Tom,

Thanks for your comments and suggestions. All your comments have been incor=
porated in the revision (08) except the length of the description. YANG doc=
tor did not raise this issue. Let me know if this is a problem. Can you poi=
nt to where I can find the character limit for the description? The two pla=
ces that exceed 90 characters in the description were due to your comment t=
o add  IETF copy right statement.=20

Thanks.
Young

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Another stray thought

there are no reference statements for the imports which I think there shoul=
d be e.g.

  import ietf-yang-types {
  reference "RFC 6991 - Common YANG Data Types";
  prefix "yang";
  }

  import ietf-l1-service-types {
  reference "RFC XXXX - A Yang Data Model for L1 Connectivity
          Service Model (L1CSM)";
    prefix "l1-st";

Tom Petch

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> Young
>
> Some more stray thoughts.
>
> Those pesky security people have just updated TLS so the reference for=20
> that is now RFC8446
>
> The netmod group did not update the details of the YANG Module Names=20
> registry in RFC7950 so a better reference, in the IANA Considerations,=20
> is RFC6020; elsewhere I think that RFC7950 is the better reference.
>
> You have 'Yang' in the Title, Introduction and in two of the reference=20
> statements, all of which I think should be 'YANG' ('yang' is of course=20
> correct in other places)
>
> Some of the lines of description in the YANG module are over 90=20
> characters, which is too long for an RFC.
>
> Tom Petch
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
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> Cc: <ccamp@ietf.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 7:22 PM
>
> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
> > This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement
Plane
> WG of the IETF.
> >
> >         Title           : A Yang Data Model for L1 Connectivity
> Service Model (L1CSM)
> >         Authors         : G. Fioccola
> >                           K. Lee
> >                           Y. Lee
> >                           D. Dhody
> >                           D. Ceccarelli
> > Filename        : draft-ietf-ccamp-l1csm-yang-07.txt
> > Pages           : 25
> > Date            : 2018-08-30
> >
> > Abstract:
> >    This document provides a YANG data model for Layer 1 Connectivity
> >    Service Model (L1CSM). This YANG model is NMDA-compliant.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-l1csm-yang/
> >
> > There are also htmlized versions available at:
> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-l1csm-yang-07
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-l1csm-yang-07
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Leeyoung" <leeyoung@huawei.com>
To: "tom petch" <ietfc@btconnect.com>; <ccamp@ietf.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 5:06 PM

Hi Tom,

Thanks for your comments and suggestions. All your comments have been
incorporated in the revision (08) except the length of the description.
YANG doctor did not raise this issue. Let me know if this is a problem.
Can you point to where I can find the character limit for the
description? The two places that exceed 90 characters in the description
were due to your comment to add  IETF copy right statement.

<tp>

The limit I have in mind is the limit for all RFC, which is
72 characters, as specified in RFC7994.

draft-kwatsen-netmod-artwork-folding is intended to be a BCP which helps
here.

In -07,  description clauses, such as
         "LW-PMD-clause-52 Optical Interface function for 10GBASE-W
PCS-49-WIS-50";
are too long but I think that this is fixed in -08 although it is quite
tight.  I am not sure where you start counting from.

However, I think that the comment line
      /* optical interface func needs to expand for Fiber Channel, SONET
and SDH */
is still too long

The other changes look good (but I have not read parts of -08 yet)

Tom Petch

Thanks.
Young

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Subject: Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-l1csm-yang-07.txt

Another stray thought

there are no reference statements for the imports which I think there
should be e.g.

  import ietf-yang-types {
  reference "RFC 6991 - Common YANG Data Types";
  prefix "yang";
  }

  import ietf-l1-service-types {
  reference "RFC XXXX - A Yang Data Model for L1 Connectivity
          Service Model (L1CSM)";
    prefix "l1-st";

Tom Petch

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> Young
>
> Some more stray thoughts.
>
> Those pesky security people have just updated TLS so the reference for
> that is now RFC8446
>
> The netmod group did not update the details of the YANG Module Names
> registry in RFC7950 so a better reference, in the IANA Considerations,
> is RFC6020; elsewhere I think that RFC7950 is the better reference.
>
> You have 'Yang' in the Title, Introduction and in two of the reference
> statements, all of which I think should be 'YANG' ('yang' is of course
> correct in other places)
>
> Some of the lines of description in the YANG module are over 90
> characters, which is too long for an RFC.
>
> Tom Petch
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
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> Cc: <ccamp@ietf.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 7:22 PM
>
> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
> > This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement
Plane
> WG of the IETF.
> >
> >         Title           : A Yang Data Model for L1 Connectivity
> Service Model (L1CSM)
> >         Authors         : G. Fioccola
> >                           K. Lee
> >                           Y. Lee
> >                           D. Dhody
> >                           D. Ceccarelli
> > Filename        : draft-ietf-ccamp-l1csm-yang-07.txt
> > Pages           : 25
> > Date            : 2018-08-30
> >
> > Abstract:
> >    This document provides a YANG data model for Layer 1 Connectivity
> >    Service Model (L1CSM). This YANG model is NMDA-compliant.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-l1csm-yang/
> >
> > There are also htmlized versions available at:
> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-l1csm-yang-07
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-l1csm-yang-07
> >
> > A diff from the previous version is available at:
> > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-l1csm-yang-07
> >
> >
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Hi Tom,

Thanks. Now I got your point. This will be fixed in the next revision. Othe=
r than, please let me know if there are any other issue on this draft.=20
I'd like to ask for WG LC for this draft in IETF103.=20

Best regards,
Young
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To: Leeyoung <leeyoung@huawei.com>; ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-l1csm-yang-07.txt

----- Original Message -----
From: "Leeyoung" <leeyoung@huawei.com>
To: "tom petch" <ietfc@btconnect.com>; <ccamp@ietf.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 5:06 PM

Hi Tom,

Thanks for your comments and suggestions. All your comments have been incor=
porated in the revision (08) except the length of the description.
YANG doctor did not raise this issue. Let me know if this is a problem.
Can you point to where I can find the character limit for the description? =
The two places that exceed 90 characters in the description were due to you=
r comment to add  IETF copy right statement.

<tp>

The limit I have in mind is the limit for all RFC, which is
72 characters, as specified in RFC7994.

draft-kwatsen-netmod-artwork-folding is intended to be a BCP which helps he=
re.

In -07,  description clauses, such as
         "LW-PMD-clause-52 Optical Interface function for 10GBASE-W PCS-49-=
WIS-50"; are too long but I think that this is fixed in -08 although it is =
quite tight.  I am not sure where you start counting from.

However, I think that the comment line
      /* optical interface func needs to expand for Fiber Channel, SONET an=
d SDH */ is still too long

The other changes look good (but I have not read parts of -08 yet)

Tom Petch

Thanks.
Young

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From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of tom petch
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 6:55 AM
To: ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-l1csm-yang-07.txt

Another stray thought

there are no reference statements for the imports which I think there shoul=
d be e.g.

  import ietf-yang-types {
  reference "RFC 6991 - Common YANG Data Types";
  prefix "yang";
  }

  import ietf-l1-service-types {
  reference "RFC XXXX - A Yang Data Model for L1 Connectivity
          Service Model (L1CSM)";
    prefix "l1-st";

Tom Petch

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-l1csm-yang-07.txt


> Young
>
> Some more stray thoughts.
>
> Those pesky security people have just updated TLS so the reference for=20
> that is now RFC8446
>
> The netmod group did not update the details of the YANG Module Names=20
> registry in RFC7950 so a better reference, in the IANA Considerations,=20
> is RFC6020; elsewhere I think that RFC7950 is the better reference.
>
> You have 'Yang' in the Title, Introduction and in two of the reference=20
> statements, all of which I think should be 'YANG' ('yang' is of course=20
> correct in other places)
>
> Some of the lines of description in the YANG module are over 90=20
> characters, which is too long for an RFC.
>
> Tom Petch
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
> To: <i-d-announce@ietf.org>
> Cc: <ccamp@ietf.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 7:22 PM
>
> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
> > This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement
Plane
> WG of the IETF.
> >
> >         Title           : A Yang Data Model for L1 Connectivity
> Service Model (L1CSM)
> >         Authors         : G. Fioccola
> >                           K. Lee
> >                           Y. Lee
> >                           D. Dhody
> >                           D. Ceccarelli
> > Filename        : draft-ietf-ccamp-l1csm-yang-07.txt
> > Pages           : 25
> > Date            : 2018-08-30
> >
> > Abstract:
> >    This document provides a YANG data model for Layer 1 Connectivity
> >    Service Model (L1CSM). This YANG model is NMDA-compliant.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-l1csm-yang/
> >
> > There are also htmlized versions available at:
> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-l1csm-yang-07
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-l1csm-yang-07
> >
> > A diff from the previous version is available at:
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> >
> >
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yes/support as co-author.
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Working group,

Now that all the IPR declarations have been collected is time to start a two=
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The IESG has received a request from the Common Control and Measurement Plane
WG (ccamp) to consider the following document: - 'A YANG Data Model for
Microwave Radio Link'
  <draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-09.txt> as Proposed Standard

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Abstract


   This document defines a YANG data model for control and management of
   the radio link interfaces, and their connectivity to packet
   (typically Ethernet) interfaces in a microwave/millimeter wave node.
   The data nodes for management of the interface protection
   functionality is broken out into a separate and generic YANG data
   model in order to make it available also for other interface types.

RFC Ed.  Note

   // RFC Ed.: replace all XXXX throughout the document with actual RFC
   numbers and remove this note




The file can be obtained via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang/

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I have reviewed the document and support it

I just have two minor comments which could be easily addressed as part of W=
G LC, since they are aimed at improving the clarity of the text:


1)      The document scope indicates that the protocol extensions it define=
s are applicable to LSPs in Packet Switched Network (PSN) while the extensi=
ons are defined for the Ethernet SENDER_TSPEC object defined in RFC 6003



Since PSN, as defined in RFC 3985, refers to IP or MPLS networks while the =
Ethernet SENDER_TSPEC object, as defined in RFC 6003, has broader applicabi=
lity, I would suggest to rephrase the abstract to apply the extensions defi=
ned in this document to any "GMPLS LSPs using the Ethernet SENDER_TSPEC obj=
ects specified in [RFC 6003]"



2)      Since RFC 6003 defines also an Ethernet FLOWSPEC object having the =
same format as the Ethernet SENDER_TSPEC object (section 5 of RFC 6003),  i=
t seems that also this document extensions apply to the Ethernet FLOWSPEC o=
bject



It may be worthwhile adding an explicit statement at the end of section 1 (=
Introduction) to make this more clear to a reader

Thanks, Italo

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Working group,

Now that all the IPR declarations have been collected is time to start a tw=
o weeks working group last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-avail=
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The last call ends on Friday September 21st . Please send you comments to t=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">I have reviewed the do=
cument and support it<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">I just have two minor =
comments which could be easily addressed as part of WG LC, since they are a=
imed at improving the clarity of the text:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
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p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:=
Ignore">1)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">The document s=
cope indicates that the protocol extensions it defines are applicable to LS=
Ps in Packet Switched Network (PSN) while the extensions are defined for th=
e Ethernet SENDER_TSPEC object defined
 in RFC 6003<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt"><span style=3D"c=
olor:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt"><span style=3D"c=
olor:#1F497D">Since PSN, as defined in RFC 3985, refers to IP or MPLS netwo=
rks while the Ethernet SENDER_TSPEC object, as defined in RFC 6003, has bro=
ader applicability, I would suggest to
 rephrase the abstract to apply the extensions defined in this document to =
any &#8220;GMPLS LSPs using the Ethernet SENDER_TSPEC objects specified in =
[RFC 6003]&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt"><span style=3D"c=
olor:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><span style=3D"mso-list:=
Ignore">2)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Since RFC 6003=
 defines also an Ethernet FLOWSPEC object having the same format as the Eth=
ernet SENDER_TSPEC object (section 5 of RFC 6003),&nbsp; it seems that also=
 this document extensions apply to the
 Ethernet FLOWSPEC object<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt"><span style=3D"c=
olor:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt"><span style=3D"c=
olor:#1F497D">It may be worthwhile adding an explicit statement at the end =
of section 1 (Introduction) to make this more clear to a reader<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thanks, Italo<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
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<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Daniele Ceccarelli [mailto:daniele.cecc=
arelli@ericsson.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 07, 2018 8:00 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) &lt;ccamp@ietf.org&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [CCAMP] WG last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-=
availability-09<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Working group,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Now that all the IPR declarations have been collecte=
d is time to start a two weeks working group last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-=
rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability-09.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The last call ends on Friday September 21<sup>st</su=
p> . Please send you comments to the CCAMP mailing list.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">All the IPR declarations from authors and contributo=
rs have been collected and can be found in the history of the document:
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwi=
dth-availability/history/">
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availab=
ility/history/</a>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Please note that 1 IPR was disclosed against this dr=
aft <a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2414/">
https://datatracker.ietf..org/ipr/2414/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Daniele, Fatai, Oscar<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p>
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Hi,

This draft is new to me and modelling of alarm management also somewhat....

Could you enlighten me on the relationship, if any,  in between the alarm m=
odule of this draft and the
Device/resource alarm state within RFC8348 (equivalently the EntityAlarmSta=
tus of RFC4268) ?

E.g.  are the two they considered complementary mechanisms (modules), just =
different view glasses, or are they non-compatible or redundant ..?

Many Thanks in advance !


BR, Karen Nielsen


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Hi,

Karen Elisabeth Egede Nielsen <KEE@kamstrup.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> This draft is new to me and modelling of alarm management also
> somewhat....
> 
> Could you enlighten me on the relationship, if any, in between the
> alarm module of this draft and the
> Device/resource alarm state within RFC8348 (equivalently the
> EntityAlarmStatus of RFC4268) ?

The "alarm-state" in RFC 8348 (and EntityAlarmStatus in RFC 4268) is
just a summary of the alarms that may be active on the specific
hardware component.  It doesn't say anything about how alarms are
reported, and it doesn't provide any details of the alarms; it is just
a bitmask.

The alarm-module draft OTOH, specifies how alarms are reported,
generically.  It also provides a list of all active alarms.

> E.g.  are the two they considered complementary mechanisms (modules),
> just different view glasses, or are they non-compatible or redundant
> ..?

So if both modules are implemented (they don't have to be), the
information can be viewed as redundant or just different views.


/martin



> 
> Many Thanks in advance !
> 
> 
> BR, Karen Nielsen
> 


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane WG of the IETF.

        Title           : YANG Alarm Module
        Authors         : Stefan Vallin
                          Martin Bjorklund
	Filename        : draft-ietf-ccamp-alarm-module-03.txt
	Pages           : 76
	Date            : 2018-09-20

Abstract:
   This document defines a YANG module for alarm management.  It
   includes functions for alarm list management, alarm shelving and
   notifications to inform management systems.  There are also RPCs to
   manage the operator state of an alarm and administrative alarm
   procedures.  The module carefully maps to relevant alarm standards.


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Hi All!
Thanks for all the feedback on the alarm module.

The major changes for this revision is:

* New section in Appendix F, F.2.  Relationships to other alarm =
standards
- Deborah Brungard, db3546@att.com, and Tom Petch, ietfc@btconnect.com.

* Added definition of =E2=80=9CCorrective Action=E2=80=9D
- henk.birkholz@sit.fraunhofer.de and the =
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cacao

* Clarified how to identify resources if the module is used in a =
manager/orchestrator/controller.
- bill.wu@huawei.com

* Clarified that the =E2=80=9Calarm state=E2=80=9D is a composite state
- om Petch, ietfc@btconnect.com

br Stefan


> On 20 Sep 2018, at 13:51, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
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>        Title           : YANG Alarm Module
>        Authors         : Stefan Vallin
>                          Martin Bjorklund
> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-ccamp-alarm-module-03.txt
> 	Pages           : 76
> 	Date            : 2018-09-20
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> Abstract:
>   This document defines a YANG module for alarm management.  It
>   includes functions for alarm list management, alarm shelving and
>   notifications to inform management systems.  There are also RPCs to
>   manage the operator state of an alarm and administrative alarm
>   procedures.  The module carefully maps to relevant alarm standards.
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Hi,

Thanks a lot.

I hope that you can accept the follow up right below:

* Would it not be relevant in the draft to outline the relation to the alar=
m-state in RFC8348 ?

** Possibly even in the substance of the document rather then in an appendi=
x  - assuming that the two are seen as complementary mechanisms potentially=
 based on the same underlying alarm framework (that you define in this draf=
t)

** In the draft you have "closed" state of an alarm. Wouldn't it be relevan=
t, in your opinion. with this alarm framework in mind, also to have the clo=
sed state in the alarm-state object of RFC8348 ?

* The same question (should be included in alarm-state of RFC8348) for the =
shelved alarms ?

Something else:

* Assuming that one has an alarm which have no clear  (see next question be=
low) or where clear may not always come.
   Would an operator close of this alarm make it disappear from the active =
alarms summary ? Can that be an implementation decision  - possibly dependi=
ng on the alarm type, possibly configurable ?

* RFC3877 has the following statement: "Alarms SHOULD  be modelled so Notif=
ications are sent on alarm Clear." =20
I did not find this statement in the substance of the draft nor in Appendix=
 F (But it may have escaped me). =20
Is this also the mindset of this draft ?

* It is correctly understood that the Alarm Summary and the Alarm list cont=
ains the alarms which are presently in the system - i.e. which have not bee=
n purged ?
  * Would it be relevant for the Alarm Summary list to tell when alarms was=
 last purged due to administrative action ?

* Are you considering to implement support for statistics ?


BR, Karen

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Subject: Re: draft-ietf-ccamp-alarm-module-02

Hi,

Karen Elisabeth Egede Nielsen <KEE@kamstrup.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>=20
> This draft is new to me and modelling of alarm management also=20
> somewhat....
>=20
> Could you enlighten me on the relationship, if any, in between the=20
> alarm module of this draft and the Device/resource alarm state within=20
> RFC8348 (equivalently the EntityAlarmStatus of RFC4268) ?

The "alarm-state" in RFC 8348 (and EntityAlarmStatus in RFC 4268) is just a=
 summary of the alarms that may be active on the specific hardware componen=
t.  It doesn't say anything about how alarms are reported, and it doesn't p=
rovide any details of the alarms; it is just a bitmask.

The alarm-module draft OTOH, specifies how alarms are reported, generically=
.  It also provides a list of all active alarms.

> E.g.  are the two they considered complementary mechanisms (modules),=20
> just different view glasses, or are they non-compatible or redundant=20
> ..?

So if both modules are implemented (they don't have to be), the information=
 can be viewed as redundant or just different views.


/martin



>=20
> Many Thanks in advance !
>=20
>=20
> BR, Karen Nielsen
>=20


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Reviewer: Russ Housley
Review result: Ready

I reviewed this document as part of the Security Directorate's ongoing
effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG.  These
comments were written primarily for the benefit of the Security Area
Directors.  Document authors, document editors, and WG chairs should
treat these comments just like any other IETF Last Call comments.

Document: review-draft-mwdt-ccamp-mw-yang-09
Reviewer: Russ Housley
Review Date: 2018-09-21
IETF LC End Date: 2018-10-02
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Summary: Ready

Major Concerns: None

Minor Concerns: None



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This wg last call is now closed.
Authors, please address italo's comments and then we'll proceed with the re=
quest of publication.

Thanks
Daniele & Fatai

From: CCAMP <ccamp-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Daniele Ceccarelli
Sent: venerd=EC 7 settembre 2018 08:00
To: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) <ccamp@ietf.org>
Subject: [CCAMP] WG last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availab=
ility-09

Working group,

Now that all the IPR declarations have been collected is time to start a tw=
o weeks working group last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-avail=
ability-09.
The last call ends on Friday September 21st . Please send you comments to t=
he CCAMP mailing list.

All the IPR declarations from authors and contributors have been collected =
and can be found in the history of the document: https://datatracker.ietf.o=
rg/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability/history/
Please note that 1 IPR was disclosed against this draft https://datatracker=
.ietf..org/ipr/2414/<https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2414/>

Thanks,
Daniele, Fatai, Oscar


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:E=
N-US">Authors, please address italo&#8217;s comments and then we&#8217;ll p=
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N-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:E=
N-US">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language:E=
N-US">Daniele &amp; Fatai<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniele Ceccarelli<br>
<b>Sent:</b> venerd=EC 7 settembre 2018 08:00<br>
<b>To:</b> CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) &lt;ccamp@ietf.org&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [CCAMP] WG last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Working group,<o:p></o:p></span=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Now that all the IPR declaratio=
ns have been collected is time to start a two weeks working group last call=
 on draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability-09.<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The last call ends on Friday Se=
ptember 21<sup>st</sup> . Please send you comments to the CCAMP mailing lis=
t.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">All the IPR declarations from a=
uthors and contributors have been collected and can be found in the history=
 of the document:
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwi=
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https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availab=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Daniele, Fatai, Oscar<o:p></o:p=
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    Hi Young and Haomian,<br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
      I had a look at draft-lee-ccamp-wson-impairment-yang-00, which you
      submitted a few weeks ago and I have the following concerns:<br>
      <br>
      The abstract and introduction states:
      <pre>Abstract

   This document provides a YANG data model for the impairment-aware <b>TE
   topology in wavelength switched optical networks (WSONs).</b>
</pre>
      <br>
      <pre class="newpage">1. Introduction

   ...

   This document provides a <b>YANG data model for the impairment-aware
   Traffic Engineering (TE) topology in wavelength switched optical
   networks (WSONs).</b> The YANG model described in this document is a
   WSON technology-specific Yang model based on the information model
   developed in [<a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7446" title="&quot;Routing and Wavelength Assignment Information Model for Wavelength Switched Optical Networks&quot;">RFC7446</a>] and the two encoding documents [<a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7581" title="&quot;Routing and Wavelength Assignment Information Encoding for Wavelength Switched Optical Networks&quot;">RFC7581</a>] and
   [<a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7579" title="&quot;General Network Element Constraint Encoding for GMPLS Controlled Networks&quot;">RFC7579</a>] that developed protocol independent encodings based on
   [<a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7446" title="&quot;Routing and Wavelength Assignment Information Model for Wavelength Switched Optical Networks&quot;">RFC7446</a>].
</pre>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Based on this scope, I was expecting that this I-D provides
      te-link augmentations for WSON networks.<br>
      Examples of WSON specific te-link attributes are fiber type,
      spectrum availability, chromatic dispersion, PMD, PDL, OSNR
      contribution (if the link includes ILAs) just to list a few.<br>
      <br>
      However, the only te-link augmentation is:<br>
      <pre class="newpage">     augment /nw:networks/nw:network/nt:link/tet:te/tet:te-link-attributes:
       +--ro power?   int32
</pre>
      <br>
      It is also reasonable to define WSON augmentations for termination
      points representing the line side of optical transponders as they
      can be considered as topological elements<br>
      even if these attributes are not representing optical
      impairments!:<br>
      <pre class="newpage">     augment /nw:networks/nw:network/nw:node/tet:te/tet:tunnel-termination-point:
       +--ro available-modulation*   identityref
       +--ro modulation-enabled?     boolean
       +--ro modulation-type?        identityref
       +--ro available-FEC*          identityref
       +--ro FEC-enabled?            boolean
       +--ro FEC-type?               identityref
       +--ro FEC-code-rate?          decimal64
       +--ro FEC-threshold?          decimal64

</pre>
      I don't understand why all the OT attributes are defined as ro
      attributes. State of the art OTs typically provide multiple
      operational modes. Hence, these attributes should<br>
      be defined as rw attributes.<br>
      <br>
       <br>
      All other augmentations are defined for paths (te-tunnels) or
      termination points, which is a bit strange! Here are two examples:<br>
      <pre class="newpage">     augment /nw:networks/nw:network/nt:link/tet:te/tet:te-link-
   attributes/tet:underlay/tet:primary-<b>path</b>/tet:path-
   element/tet:type/tet:label/tet:label-hop/tet:te-label/tet:technology:
       +--:(wson-imp-topo)
          +--rw (grid-type)?
          |  +--:(dwdm)
          |  |  +--ro channel-freq?         decimal64
          |  +--:(cwdm)
          |     +--ro channel-wavelength?   uint32
          +--ro bit-rate?             decimal64
          +--ro BER?                  decimal64
          +--ro pmd?                  decimal64
          +--ro cd?                   decimal64
          +--ro osnr?                 decimal64
          +--ro q-factor?             decimal64
</pre>
      <br>
      channel-freq/channel-wavelength, bit-rate, BER are definitively
      service (te-tunnel) attributes and do not represent optical
      impairments for a WSON network topology.<br>
      For pmd, cd, and q-factor (definition?), it looks like these are
      attributes for all the links along the path. Why are these
      impairments defined for a path and are not te-link<br>
      augmentations? <br>
      <br>
      I was expecting that this draft defines optical impairments for
      the topological entities in a WSON network where optical
      impairments matter. Could you please clarify.<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Thanks,<br>
      Dieter<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      On 01.09.2018 05:42, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
        href="mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org">internet-drafts@ietf.org</a>
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:153577337941.29073.132620799131044718@ietfa.amsl.com">
      <pre wrap="">A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.


        Title           : A Yang Data Model for Impairment-Aware WSON Optical Networks
        Authors         : Young Lee
                          Haomian Zheng
	Filename        : draft-lee-ccamp-wson-impairment-yang-00.txt
	Pages           : 18
	Date            : 2018-08-31

Abstract:
   This document provides a YANG data model for the impairment-aware TE
   topology in wavelength switched optical networks (WSONs).




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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane WG of the IETF.

        Title           : Ethernet Traffic Parameters with Availability Information
        Authors         : Hao Long
                          Min Ye
                          Greg Mirsky
                          Alessandro D'Alessandro
                          Himanshu Shah
	Filename        : draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability-10.txt
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   e.g., copper, radio, etc. The bandwidth of such links is sensitive
   to external environment. Availability is typically used for
   describing the link during network planning. This document
   introduces an optional Availability TLV in Resource ReSerVation
   Protocol - Traffic Engineer (RSVP-TE) signaling. This extension can
   be used to set up a Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching
   (GMPLS) Label Switched Path (LSP) using the Ethernet SENDER_TSPEC
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Reviewer: Scott Bradner
Review result: Ready

I will start off by saying that I am no YANG expert.  Nor am I an expert on
microwave radio links in spite of being involved in deploying a number of them
in the late 1980s.  (but this module would have been useful at that time to
understand what was going on when things got fuzzy - which they did from time
to time)

That said, this is a very well written document – very clear and easy to
follow.  I see no non-ops issues with the document.

I also see no op-related issues – indeed it is good ops-wise to be able to
understand the state of devices in a network and to be able to manage their
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Dear all,=20

The draft is updated to address comments received in WG LC.

BR,
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        Title           : Ethernet Traffic Parameters with Availability Inf=
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Abstract:
   A packet switching network may contain links with variable bandwidth,
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   describing the link during network planning. This document
   introduces an optional Availability TLV in Resource ReSerVation
   Protocol - Traffic Engineer (RSVP-TE) signaling. This extension can
   be used to set up a Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching
   (GMPLS) Label Switched Path (LSP) using the Ethernet SENDER_TSPEC
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