From nobody Wed Jan 2 03:07:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietf.org Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02CEA12872C; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 03:07:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: ccamp@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.89.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ccamp@ietf.org Message-ID: <154642722196.32466.8764459783896984318@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 03:07:02 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability-12.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 11:07:02 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane WG of the IETF. Title : Ethernet Traffic Parameters with Availability Information Authors : Hao Long Min Ye Greg Mirsky Alessandro D'Alessandro Himanshu Shah Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability-12.txt Pages : 10 Date : 2019-01-02 Abstract: A packet switching network may contain links with variable bandwidth, e.g., copper, radio, etc. The bandwidth of such links is sensitive to external environment. Availability is typically used for describing the link during network planning. This document introduces an optional Availability TLV in Resource ReSerVation Protocol - Traffic Engineer (RSVP-TE) signaling. This extension can be used to set up a Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Label Switched Path (LSP) using the Ethernet SENDER_TSPEC object. 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From: Italo Busi To: Fatai Zhang , "ccamp@ietf.org" , "wang.qilei@zte.com.cn" , "rvaliveti@infinera.com" , "Zhenghaomian (Zhenghaomian, Optical &Microwave Technology Research Dept)" , "huubatwork@gmail.com" , "sergio.belotti@nokia.com" , "IHussain@infinera.com" , "daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com" , "rrao@infinera.com" , fanzheyu , "Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart)" , "zali@cisco.com" , "d.king@lancaster.ac.uk" , "manojk2@cisco.com" , "abonfant@cisco.com" , "anadahal@cisco.com" CC: "ccamp-chairs@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: IPR Polling on [draft-merge-ccamp-gmpls-otn-b100g-applicability-00] Thread-Index: AdSZmgAgg/lYkjdgS3S4vuzTMJLxQAJHOKKw Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 16:19:23 +0000 Message-ID: <91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B2768BF50@lhreml504-mbs> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: it-IT, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.203.246.251] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B2768BF50lhreml504mbs_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] IPR Polling on [draft-merge-ccamp-gmpls-otn-b100g-applicability-00] X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 16:19:36 -0000 --_000_91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B2768BF50lhreml504mbs_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft Happy New Year to everybody Italo From: Fatai Zhang Sent: sabato 22 dicembre 2018 03:02 To: ccamp@ietf.org; wang.qilei@zte.com.cn; rvaliveti@infinera.com; Zhenghao= mian (Zhenghaomian, Optical &Microwave Technology Research Dept) ; huubatwork@gmail.com; sergio.belotti@nokia.com; IHussain@i= nfinera.com; daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com; rrao@infinera.com; Fatai Zhan= g ; Italo Busi ; fanzheyu; Be= ller, Dieter (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart) ; zali@cisco.c= om; d.king@lancaster.ac.uk; manojk2@cisco.com; abonfant@cisco.com; anadahal= @cisco.com Cc: ccamp-chairs@ietf.org Subject: IPR Polling on [draft-merge-ccamp-gmpls-otn-b100g-applicability-00= ] Hi all, As part of preparation for WG Adoption on [draft-merge-ccamp-gmpls-otn-b100= g-applicability-00], here is the IPR polling. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see R= FCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropria= te. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the= above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are awa= re of any relevant IPR. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or co= ntributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which= encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an = IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or = discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please se= e the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki= /IntellectualProperty. Thanks Fatai & Daniele --_000_91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B2768BF50lhreml504mbs_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this dr= aft

 

Happy New Year to everybody

 

Italo=

 

From: = Fatai Zhang
Sent: sabato 22 dicembre 2018 03:02
To: ccamp@ietf.org; wang.qilei@zte.com.cn; rvaliveti@infinera.com; Z= henghaomian (Zhenghaomian, Optical &Microwave Technology Research Dept)= <zhenghaomian@huawei.com>; huubatwork@gmail.com; sergio.belotti@noki= a.com; IHussain@infinera.com; daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com; rrao@infinera.com; Fatai Zhang <zhangfatai@huawei.com>; Italo Busi &= lt;Italo.Busi@huawei.com>; fanzheyu; Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE/Stuttgar= t) <dieter.beller@nokia.com>; zali@cisco.com; d.king@lancaster.ac.uk;= manojk2@cisco.com; abonfant@cisco.com; anadahal@cisco.com
Cc: ccamp-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: IPR Polling on [draft-merge-ccamp-gmpls-otn-b100g-applicabi= lity-00]

 =

Hi all,

 

As part of preparation for WG Adoption on [draft-merge-ccamp-gmpls-otn-b100= g-applicability-00], here is the IPR polling.

 

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft ident= ified above?

 

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to t= his draft"

or

"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this dra= ft"

 

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance wit= h IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)?

If yes to the above, please state either:=

 

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance = with IETF IPR rules"

or

"No, the IPR has not been disclosed"<= /o:p>

 

If you answer no, please provide any additional deta= ils you think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or contri= butor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whe= ther or not you are aware of any relevant IPR.

 

NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESS= AGE'S TO LINES.

 

If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not li= sted as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under t= he IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware = of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related= to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed = above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty<= /a>.

 

 

Thanks

 

Fatai & Daniele

 

 

 

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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" Thx Rajan From: Fatai Zhang Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 6:02 PM To: ccamp@ietf.org; wang.qilei@zte.com.cn; Radhakrishna Valiveti ; Zhenghaomian (Zhenghaomian, Optical &Microwave Technology R= esearch Dept) ; huubatwork@gmail.com; sergio.belot= ti@nokia.com; Iftekhar Hussain ; daniele.ceccarelli@= ericsson.com; Rajan Rao ; Fatai Zhang ; Italo Busi ; fanzheyu ; Beller, Dieter = (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart) ; zali@cisco.com; d.king@la= ncaster.ac.uk; manojk2@cisco.com; abonfant@cisco.com; anadahal@cisco.com Cc: ccamp-chairs@ietf.org Subject: IPR Polling on [draft-merge-ccamp-gmpls-otn-b100g-applicability-00= ] CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not cli= ck links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the c= ontent is safe. Hi all, As part of preparation for WG Adoption on [draft-merge-ccamp-gmpls-otn-b100= g-applicability-00], here is the IPR polling. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see R= FCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropria= te. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the= above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are awa= re of any relevant IPR. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or co= ntributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which= encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an = IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or = discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please se= e the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki= /IntellectualProperty. Thanks Fatai & Daniele --_000_MWHPR10MB13920E5300D434105FFCF886AB8D0MWHPR10MB1392namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

"No,= I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"

 

Thx

Rajan

 

From: = Fatai Zhang <zhangfatai@huawei.com>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 6:02 PM
To: ccamp@ietf.org; wang.qilei@zte.com.cn; Radhakrishna Valiveti <= ;rvaliveti@infinera.com>; Zhenghaomian (Zhenghaomian, Optical &Micro= wave Technology Research Dept) <zhenghaomian@huawei.com>; huubatwork@= gmail.com; sergio.belotti@nokia.com; Iftekhar Hussain <IHussain@infinera.com>; daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com; Rajan Rao = <rrao@infinera.com>; Fatai Zhang <zhangfatai@huawei.com>; Italo= Busi <Italo.Busi@huawei.com>; fanzheyu <IMCEAEX-_O=3DHUAWEI+2= 0EXCHANGE+20ORG_OU=3DEXCHANGE+20ADMINISTRATIVE+20GROUP+20&#= 43;28FYDIBOHF23SPDLT+29_CN=3DRECIPIENTS_CN=3DFanzheyu+2000403544dca= @huawei.com>; Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart) <dieter.beller@nokia.com>; zal= i@cisco.com; d.king@lancaster.ac.uk; manojk2@cisco.com; abonfant@cisco.com;= anadahal@cisco.com
Cc: ccamp-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: IPR Polling on [draft-merge-ccamp-gmpls-otn-b100g-applicabi= lity-00]

 =

CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. = Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.

 

Hi all, <= o:p>

 

As part of preparation for WG Ad= option on [draft-merge-ccamp-gmpls-otn-b100g-applicability-00], here is the= IPR polling.

 

Are you a= ware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above?

&nbs= p;

Please st= ate either:

"No,= I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"

or

"Yes= , I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

&nbs= p;

If so, ha= s this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3669,= 5378 and 8179 for more details)?

If yes to= the above, please state either:

&nbs= p;

"Yes= , the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"

or

"No,= the IPR has not been disclosed"

&nbs= p;

If you an= swer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. If yo= u are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by= responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR.

&nbs= p;

NOTE: THI= S APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES.

&nbs= p;

If you ar= e on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor= , we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourag= es you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from partici= pating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. F= or more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

&nbs= p;

&nbs= p;

Thanks

&nbs= p;

Fatai &am= p; Daniele

 

 

 

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ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32CFF130E89; Fri, 4 Jan 2019 11:37:17 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: ccamp@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.89.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ccamp@ietf.org Message-ID: <154663063716.18321.5806199947717785903@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2019 11:37:17 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-02.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2019 19:37:17 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane WG of the IETF. Title : Information Encoding for WSON with Impairments Validation Authors : Giovanni Martinelli Young Lee Gabriele M. Galimberti Fatai Zhang Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-02.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2019-01-04 Abstract: Impairment-Aware (IA) Routing and Wavelength Assignment (RWA) function might be required in Wavelength Switched Optical Networks (WSON) that already support RWA. This document defines proper encoding to support this operation. It goes in addition to the available impairment-free WSON encoding and it is fully compatible with it. As the information model, the encoding is independent from control plane architectures and protocol implementations. Its definitions can be used in related protocol extensions. 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It slip= ped through holiday inattentiveness.=20 Thanks. Young & Giovanni -----Original Message----- From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ie= tf.org Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 1:37 PM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-02.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane WG of= the IETF. Title : Information Encoding for WSON with Impairments Va= lidation Authors : Giovanni Martinelli Young Lee Gabriele M. Galimberti Fatai Zhang Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-iv-encode-02.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2019-01-04 Abstract: Impairment-Aware (IA) Routing and Wavelength Assignment (RWA) function might be required in Wavelength Switched Optical Networks (WSON) that already support RWA. This document defines proper encoding to support this operation. 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Hi all,=

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No, I'm= not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

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Fatai

 

=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Fatai Zhang
=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4:<= /span> 2018=C4=EA12=D4=C222=C8=D5 10:02
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: ccamp@ietf.org; wang.qilei@zte.com.cn; rvaliveti@infinera.com; Zhen= ghaomian (Zhenghaomian, Optical &Microwave Technology Research Dept) &l= t;zhenghaomian@huawei.com>; huubatwork@gmail.com; sergio.belotti@nokia.c= om; IHussain@infinera.com; daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com; rrao@infinera.com;= Fatai Zhang <zhangfatai@huawei.com>; Italo Busi <Italo.Busi@huawe= i.com>; fanzheyu; Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart) <dieter.belle= r@nokia.com>; zali@cisco.com; d.king@lancaster.ac.uk; manojk2@cisco.com; abonfant@cisco.com; anadahal@cisco.com
=B3=AD=CB=CD: ccamp-chairs@ietf.org
=D6=F7=CC=E2: IPR Polling on [draft-merge-ccamp-gmpls-otn-b100g-applicability-00]<= /o:p>

 

Hi all,

 

As part of preparation for WG Adoption on [draft-merge= -ccamp-gmpls-otn-b100g-applicability-00], here is the IPR polling.

 

Are you aware of any IPR that a= pplies to draft identified above?

 

Please state either:=

"No, I'm not aware of any = IPR that applies to this draft"

or

"Yes, I'm aware of IPR tha= t applies to this draft"

 

If so, has this IPR been disclo= sed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for mor= e details)?

If yes to the above, please sta= te either:

 

"Yes, the IPR has been dis= closed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"

or

"No, the IPR has not been = disclosed"

 

If you answer no, please provid= e any additional details you think appropriate. If you are listed as a docu= ment author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this em= ail regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR.

 

NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YO= U LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES.

 

If you are on the CCAMP WG emai= l list but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of you= r obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the I= ETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribut= ion or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, pl= ease see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty<= /a>.

 

 

Thanks

 

Fatai & Daniele<= /span>

 

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[95.155.237.105]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z6sm12342965lfa.87.2019.01.07.00.35.27 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 07 Jan 2019 00:35:28 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.0 \(3445.100.39\)) From: stefan vallin In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2019 09:35:27 +0100 Cc: "ccamp@ietf.org" , Wangyonglong Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: "Xiajinwei (Jinwei Xia, Network)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.100.39) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] comments for draft-ietf-ccamp-alarm-module-06 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2019 08:35:34 -0000 Hi Jinwei! Thanks for your comments and support of the alarm module. Note that it has passed last call. Your comments have been addressed = previously on the mailing list We provide a summary of the answers inline below. br Stefan and Martin > On 28 Dec 2018, at 03:30, Xiajinwei (Jinwei Xia, Network) = wrote: >=20 > Dear editors, >=20 > =20 >=20 > As a new comer of CCAMP, I am happy with the good progress of the YANG = alarm module and definitely support it. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Since I am working on the alarm design, I have a few comments on this = draft: >=20 > =20 >=20 > 1, the draft identifies the alarm-type via the combination of = alarm-type-id and alarm-type-qualifier. We fully like that, by the way, = would we add one complemented and optional leaf, e.g., alarm-name = (R-LOS), to briefly indicate the alarm type? While the corresponding = alarm-text shows the comprehensive information about this alarm, e.g., = the signal is lost on the receiver side. >=20 That would be the name of of the alarm identity (or the string = qualifier) such as: import ietf-alarms { prefix al; } identity vendor-alarms { base al:alarm-type; } identity communications-alarm { base vendor-alarms; } identity R-LOS { base communications-alarm; } > =20 >=20 > 2, for the alarm instance, the draft uses the triple-keys (resource, = alarm-type-id and alarm-type-qualifier) to identify it. =46rom my point = of view, the design is great. Besides of the triple-keys identification = in our design, we also add a complemented and optional alarm-serial-no = leaf to do the same work. An alarm-serial-no is unique to identity one = alarm instance, and thus the OSS can locate an alarm via the = alarm-serial-no directly and save the time to map the triple-keys one by = one. Does it make any sense No, having redundant/overlapping keys is not optimal, this can create = non-consistency. See the following example from 3GPP Alarm IRP Appendix C: * the Alarm IRP has an alarm identity, ai, corresponding to your = proposal for alarm-serial-no * moc =3D managed object class, moi =3D managed object instance; = corresponds to resource in the alarm YANG module * et =3D event-type, pc=3D probable-cause; corresponds to alarm-type in = the alarm YANG module * sp =3D specific-problem; corresponds to alarm-qualifier in the alarm = YANG module 3GPP Alarm IRP snippet: ---- EXAMPLE 3: Invalid sequence of a hypothetical case: (1) NotifyNewAlarm (ni=3D1, ai=3DX, moc=3DA, moi=3DB, et=3DC, pc=3DD, sp=3DE, ps=3DCritical) (2) NotifyChangedAlarm (ni=3D2, ai=3DY, moc=3DA, moi=3DB, et=3DC, pc=3DD, sp=3DE, ps=3DMinor)=20= ... Interaction (2) is illegal since it uses a different ai for the same = alarm. It should use ai=3DX as in interaction (1). END snippet ---- We do not want to enable these kind of inconsistencies. We prefer a semantic key triplet whereby the manager can get the = composite alarm state for a given resource and alarm-type >=20 >=20 > 3, for the alarm-type-id, could it be possible to support a union of = identity and string? Currently, we have more or less 40000 alarm types = in our implementation and the number is still rising right now. The YANG = alarm module is still a huge volume when we build our own alarm-type = augment. 40 000 alarm types, have you validated them against Appendix G, Alarm = Usability Requirements? No, a union would not be a good idea. To the extent possible all = alarm-types should be defined at design time by YANG identifiers. This gives the users/managers a way to prepare consequent actions and = not discover these at run-time. If your system really has 40 000 alarm types than that is what you = should publish AND how to resolve the alarms. Alarm qualifiers should be avoided as much as possible, they should only = be used for alarm types that are configurable, like a digital input. >=20 > =20 >=20 > 4, in alarm notification message, the severity information is great to = let operator know the alarm state (i.e., cleared, raised and changed). = We like that, but it=E2=80=99d be better if there was a definite = alarm-category leaf to indicate the brief alarm state regardless of the = severity, any thoughts? if the notification severity is cleared, the alarm is cleared if the [resource, alarm-type, alarm-qualifier] tuple matches an existing = alarm it is an update if the [resource, alarm-type, alarm-qualifier] tuple does not match an = existing alarm it is a raise There are corner cases on the above relating to that a client/server = might have performed house-keeping/purging actions. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Sorry for bringing any inconvenience of the late comments on the WGLC = stage. Your feedbacks are very helpful for us J All feedback is welcome :) >=20 > =20 >=20 > Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! >=20 > =20 >=20 > Jinwei >=20 > =20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From nobody Mon Jan 7 00:48:18 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0424D124BAA; Mon, 7 Jan 2019 00:48:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.965 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.965 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.065, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nokia.onmicrosoft.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tBPJ-plB2ern; 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wang.qilei@zte.com.cn; rvaliveti@infinera.com; Zhenghao= mian (Zhenghaomian, Optical &Microwave Technology Research Dept) ; huubatwork@gmail.com; Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT/Vimercat= e) ; IHussain@infinera.com; daniele.ceccarelli@er= icsson.com; rrao@infinera.com; Fatai Zhang ; Italo B= usi ; fanzheyu ; Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE/St= uttgart) ; zali@cisco.com; d.king@lancaster.ac.uk;= manojk2@cisco.com; abonfant@cisco.com; anadahal@cisco.com Cc: ccamp-chairs@ietf.org Subject: IPR Polling on [draft-merge-ccamp-gmpls-otn-b100g-applicability-00= ] Hi all, As part of preparation for WG Adoption on [draft-merge-ccamp-gmpls-otn-b100= g-applicability-00], here is the IPR polling. 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From: = Fatai Zhang <zhangfatai@huawei.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2018 3:02 AM
To: ccamp@ietf.org; wang.qilei@zte.com.cn; rvaliveti@infinera.com; Z= henghaomian (Zhenghaomian, Optical &Microwave Technology Research Dept)= <zhenghaomian@huawei.com>; huubatwork@gmail.com; Belotti, Sergio (No= kia - IT/Vimercate) <sergio.belotti@nokia.com>; IHussain@infinera.com; daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com; rrao@infinera.com;= Fatai Zhang <zhangfatai@huawei.com>; Italo Busi <Italo.Busi@huawe= i.com>; fanzheyu <IMCEAEX-_O=3DHUAWEI+20EXCHANGE+20ORG_OU=3DE= XCHANGE+20ADMINISTRATIVE+20GROUP+20+28FYDIBOHF23SPDLT+2= 9_CN=3DRECIPIENTS_CN=3DFanzheyu+2000403544dca@huawei.com>; Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart) <dieter.beller@nokia.com>; zal= i@cisco.com; d.king@lancaster.ac.uk; manojk2@cisco.com; abonfant@cisco.com;= anadahal@cisco.com
Cc: ccamp-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: IPR Polling on [draft-merge-ccamp-gmpls-otn-b100g-applicabi= lity-00]

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X-Original-To: ccamp@ietf.org Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8EC3130F07; Thu, 10 Jan 2019 09:21:38 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Joel Halpern To: Cc: draft-ietf-ccamp-alarm-module.all@ietf.org, ccamp@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.89.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <154714089885.30812.1684533748546533450@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2019 09:21:38 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [CCAMP] Rtgdir last call review of draft-ietf-ccamp-alarm-module-06 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2019 17:21:39 -0000 Reviewer: Joel Halpern Review result: Has Issues I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes on special request. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing Directorate, please see ​http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion or by updating the draft. Document: draft-ietf-ccamp-alarm-module-06 Reviewer: Joel Halpern Review Date: 10-January-2019 IETF LC End Date: N/A Intended Status: Proposed Standard Summary: This document is basically ready for publication, but has minor issues that should be considered prior to publication. Comments: The document is quite readable, and starts with a clear and helpful description of what it is trying to do. Major Issues: No major issues found. Minor Issues: The first paragraph of section 3.6 (Root Cause, Impacted Resources and Related Alarms) has a confused "not", a missing preposition, and a typoed conjunction, making it very hard to be sure what is intended. I believe the first part of the sentence should read: "The recommendation is to have a single alarm for the underlying problem and list ..." There is a larger issue about system behavior and root cause analysis that I think should be discussed in this section. Root cause analysis and side-effect analysis are not simple tasks. It is common for them to be performed outside of network elements. When such is performed outside of a network element, it is unclear what the implications are. Is it the intent that network elements that can not perform root cause analysis and impacted resource determination should NOT support this YANG module? Or can / should / may they support it even though they can not perform this analysis? There is a paragraph that seems to be trying to talk about this, but I was left confused about what was expected. Part of my confusion is that the text treats this inability as rare, whereas in my experience for network elements such inability is common. It took me a while to realize what the text in 3.7 (and 4.1.1) about not generating notification is talking about. The problem is that with all the effort to make clear that alarms are not notifications, I missed the fact that an alarm being raised (or re-raised) does itself cause a notification. And that it is this re-raise notification (and other severity change, clearing, etc notifications) that are suppressed by the shelving. It seems to me that there needs to be better explanation of this in or before 3.7. Reading the YANG for shelving alarms, it looks to me that while it can do what is described earlier in the document, the conceptual structure is VERY different. From the YANG, to shelve a specific alarm one has to create a named shelf whose conditions identify the specific alarm. To selve several alarms that are related (for example, when the operator looks at a list and selects several items to shelve) the system will likely have to create multiple shelves, give each a unique name, and put the different alarm identifiers in each one. To unshelve alarms, one has to find the named shelf which has caused the shelving. This seems very awkward. It seems to have been designed to enable one to store the shelving reason separate from the alarm itself. It introduces the odd effect that if the shelves are used with conditions that can match more than one thing, then one could have several shelves shelving the same alarm, and an effort to unshelve might well not produce the desired result. Assuming that this complexity is desired by the working group, I would ask that it be explicitly called out in the descriptive portions of the document. Nits: In section 4.4 (overview of The Alarm List) tree showing the components of the purge-alarm operation, is there any way to make clear that the enumeration called alarm-status is the enumeration of filter choices related to whether the alarm is cleared? Maybe rename it alarm-cleared-filter? 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wang.qilei@zte.com.cn; rvaliveti@infinera.com; Zhenghaomian (Zhenghaomian, Optical &Microwave Technology Research Dept) ; huubatwork@gmail.com; sergio.belotti@nokia.com; IHussain@infinera.com; Daniele Ceccarelli ; rrao@infinera.com; Fatai Zhang ; Italo Busi ; fanzheyu ; Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart) ; zali@cisco.com; d.king@lancaster.ac.uk; manojk2@cisco.com; abonfant@cisco.com; anadahal@cisco.com Cc: ccamp-chairs@ietf.org Subject: IPR Polling on [draft-merge-ccamp-gmpls-otn-b100g-applicability-00] Hi all, As part of preparation for WG Adoption on [draft-merge-ccamp-gmpls-otn-b100g-applicability-00], here is the IPR polling. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. Thanks Fatai & Daniele ------=_NextPart_001_028D_01D4A993.FDEA89C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi = Fatai,

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR = that applies to this draft"

Thanks

Daniele 

 

From: Fatai Zhang <zhangfatai@huawei.com> =
Sent: den 22 december 2018 03:02
To: = ccamp@ietf.org; wang.qilei@zte.com.cn; rvaliveti@infinera.com; = Zhenghaomian (Zhenghaomian, Optical &Microwave Technology Research = Dept) <zhenghaomian@huawei.com>; huubatwork@gmail.com; = sergio.belotti@nokia.com; IHussain@infinera.com; Daniele Ceccarelli = <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>; rrao@infinera.com; Fatai Zhang = <zhangfatai@huawei.com>; Italo Busi <Italo.Busi@huawei.com>; = fanzheyu = <IMCEAEX-_O=3DHUAWEI+20EXCHANGE+20ORG_OU=3DEXCHANGE+20ADMINISTRATIVE+2= 0GROUP+20+28FYDIBOHF23SPDLT+29_CN=3DRECIPIENTS_CN=3DFanzheyu+2000403544dc= a@huawei.com>; Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart) = <dieter.beller@nokia.com>; zali@cisco.com; d.king@lancaster.ac.uk; = manojk2@cisco.com; abonfant@cisco.com; anadahal@cisco.com
Cc: = ccamp-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: IPR Polling on = [draft-merge-ccamp-gmpls-otn-b100g-applicability-00]

 

Hi all,

 

As part of preparation = for WG Adoption on [draft-merge-ccamp-gmpls-otn-b100g-applicability-00], = here is the IPR polling.

 

Are you aware of any IPR that = applies to draft identified above?

 

Please state = either:

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR = that applies to this draft"

or

"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that = applies to this draft"

 

If so, has this IPR been disclosed = in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more = details)?

If yes to the above, please state = either:

 

"Yes, the IPR has been = disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR = rules"

or

"No, the IPR has not been = disclosed"

 

If you answer no, please provide = any additional details you think appropriate. If you are listed as a = document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to = this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant = IPR.

 

NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU = LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES.

 

If you are on the CCAMP WG email = list but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of = your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify = the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or = to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related = to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs = listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty= .

 

 

Thanks

 

Fatai & = Daniele

 

 

 

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(Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E13DB1801591; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 08:32:23 +0100 (CET) To: niu.xiaobing@zte.com.cn Cc: ccamp@ietf.org, ccamp-chairs@tools.ietf.org References: <201901110807.x0B87Jlx085707@mse02.zte.com.cn> From: Loa Andersson Message-ID: <17445c64-75d6-8e69-eca0-77d5cd85c726@pi.nu> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 15:32:19 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201901110807.x0B87Jlx085707@mse02.zte.com.cn> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] =?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A_New_Version_Notification_fordraft-izh-c?= =?utf-8?q?camp-flexe-fwk-06=2Etxt?= X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 07:32:32 -0000 Xiaobing, The way I read you is that if I send an Ethernet frame over a FlexE interface all the bits/bytes of this frame will be transmitted on the same FlexE Client, right? What I tried to ask repeatedly is that if I have e.g. three Ethernet frames, and can identify frame 1 and 3 as belonging to the same flow, while frame does not belong to that same flow, can I make sure that: Frame 1 is transmitted over FlexE CLient-1 Frame 2 is not transmitted over FlexE Client-1 Frame 3 is transmitted over FlexE CLient-1 Is that possible???? /Loa On 2019-01-11 14:11, niu.xiaobing@zte.com.cn wrote: > hi, > > Sorry for the late reply. > > From my understanding, when an Ethernet frame is to be transmitted over > Ethernet PHY (or FlexE group), it will be encapsultated and adapted > through RS and xMII into the FlexE client. It looks like a one-to-one > relationship between an Ethernet frame and the flexe client. > > Refere to clause 5.2 'Relationship to IEEE 802.3 Stack' in FlexE 2.0 IA > for more information: > > The FlexE Shim can be envisioned as being in the middle of the PCS in > the 100GBASE-R stack as illustrated in [802.3] Figure 80-1 or in the > 200GBASE-R or > > 400GBASE-R stack as illustrated in [802.3bs] Figure 116-1. Each FlexE > Client has its own separate MAC, Reconciliation Sublayer, and xMII above > the FlexE Shim which > > operate at the FlexE Client rate. The layers below the PCS (100GBASE-R > PMA, optional FEC, PMD) are used intact as specified for Ethernet. > > > BRs, > > 牛小兵     Xiaobing NIU > > E: niu.xiaobing@zte.com.cn > > www.zte.com.cn > > 原始邮件 > *发件人：*LoaAndersson > *收件人：*牛小兵10019881; > *抄送人：*ccamp@ietf.org ;ccamp-chairs@tools.ietf.org > ; > *日 期 ：*2018年12月27日 14:28 > *主 题 ：**Re:  [CCAMP] Fwd: New Version Notification > fordraft-izh-ccamp-flexe-fwk-06.txt* > Xiaobing, > > Let me see if I understand you correctly. > > Let us assume that we have a 100GE PHY with on 100GE FlexE Group > and that FlexE Group have 5 FlexE Clients. > > If an Ethernet frame is to be transmitted over the FlexE Group, are you > saying that it is arbitrary which FlexE Client it will be transmitted > over?? > > /Loa > > > On 2018-12-25 14:41, niu.xiaobing@zte.com.cn wrote: > > hi Loa, > > > > Sorry for the late reply. > > > > In Fig2, 3,  and  4 of FlexE 2.0 IA, 'control' model works in this way, > > > > The control function manages which calendar slots each FlexE Client is > > inserted into > > > > and inserts the FlexE overhead on each FlexE PHY in the transmit direction. > > > > It does not relate to the mapping from 'the correct > > Ethernet Frame to the correct FlexE Client' in the FlexE Mux. > > > > I'm not sure if I understand your question correctly. > > > > > > Happy Christmas! > > > > > > 牛小兵     Xiaobing NIU > > > > 标准预研工程师   Standard Engineer > > > > 算法标准部/有线研究院/有线产品经营部   Algorithm Standard Department/ > > Wireline Product R&D Institute > > > > ** > > > > 中兴通讯股份有限公司   ZTE Corporation > > > > 北京市朝阳区安定路5号院8号外运大厦A座4楼, 邮编: 100029 > > > > 4/F, Sinotrans Tower A, Building 8, No.5 Anding Road, Chaoyang > > District,Beijing, P.R.China, > > > > T: +86 755 xxxxxxxx M: +86 13439566425  > > > > E: niu.xiaobing@zte.com.cn  > > > > www.zte.com.cn  > > > > > > *发件人：*LoaAndersson  > > *收件人：*牛小兵10019881; > > *抄送人：*ccamp@ietf.org ;ccamp-chairs@tools.ietf.org > > ; > > *日 期 ：*2018年12月19日 14:37 > > *主 题 ：**Re:  [CCAMP] Fwd: New Version Notification > > fordraft-izh-ccamp-flexe-fwk-06.txt* > > > > > > On 2018-12-18 17:52, niu.xiaobing@zte.com.cn wrote: > >  > hi, Loa > > > >  > >  > > >  > Once a FlexE group is created, it can be seen as one huge PCS module > >  > created as well. Transport of different FlexE client information streams > >  > over the FlexE group is decided by the data plane "control" module. > > > > What info does the data plane "control" module use to map the correct > > Ethernet Frame to the correct FlexE Client? > > > > /Loa > > > >  > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Loa Andersson                        email: loa@pi.nu > > Senior MPLS Expert > > Bronze Dragon Consulting             phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > > > > > > -- > > > Loa Andersson                        email: loa@pi.nu > Senior MPLS Expert > Bronze Dragon Consulting             phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > > -- Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu Senior MPLS Expert Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Mon Jan 14 04:55:53 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F12C2131060 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 04:55:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cuhHM7eH3G6G for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 04:55:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F771131038 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 04:55:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from LHREML713-CAH.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.107]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 13E8357E642193894857; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 12:55:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML504-MBS.china.huawei.com ([10.201.109.59]) by LHREML713-CAH.china.huawei.com ([10.201.108.36]) with mapi id 14.03.0415.000; Mon, 14 Jan 2019 12:55:44 +0000 From: Italo Busi To: "ccamp@ietf.org" CC: "transport-nbi-dt@googlegroups.com" Thread-Topic: Transport NBI DT Meeting - January 16, 2019 Thread-Index: AdSsCG0hrxfrwQjMTnWuFMa9oeOfdQ== Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 12:55:43 +0000 Message-ID: <91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B2769B8CC@lhreml504-mbs> Accept-Language: it-IT, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.203.246.251] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B2769B8CClhreml504mbs_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: [CCAMP] Transport NBI DT Meeting - January 16, 2019 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 12:55:53 -0000 --_000_91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B2769B8CClhreml504mbs_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The next Transport NBI DT call is planned this Wednesday (January 16, 2019)= at 4:00pm CET Please note that we will start 1h later than usual The agenda and etherpad link for the call are available on GitHub: https://github.com/danielkinguk/transport-nbi/tree/master/Meetings/2019-01-= 16 These are the Zoom meeting details: Meeting Title: Transport NBI DT Meeting Time: 2019-01-16 16:00-17:00 (UTC+01:00)Rome ID Number: 693 824 408 Meeting link: https://welink-meeting.zoom.us/j/693824408 Daniel and Italo --_000_91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B2769B8CClhreml504mbs_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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[217.78.25.152]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y1-v6sm741874ljh.39.2019.01.15.13.52.36 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 15 Jan 2019 13:52:36 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.0 \(3445.100.39\)) From: stefan vallin In-Reply-To: <154714089885.30812.1684533748546533450@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 22:52:36 +0100 Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org, draft-ietf-ccamp-alarm-module.all@ietf.org, "CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org)" , ietf@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <55998B73-A581-4A47-8D23-B88E2607EFC8@wallan.se> References: <154714089885.30812.1684533748546533450@ietfa.amsl.com> To: Joel Halpern X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.100.39) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Rtgdir last call review of draft-ietf-ccamp-alarm-module-06 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 21:52:45 -0000 Hi Joel! Thanks for your review, really helpful! See inline: > On 10 Jan 2019, at 18:21, Joel Halpern wrote: > Minor Issues: > The first paragraph of section 3.6 (Root Cause, Impacted Resources = and > Related Alarms) has a confused "not", a missing preposition, and a = typoed > conjunction, making it very hard to be sure what is intended. I = believe > the first part of the sentence should read: "The recommendation is = to have > a single alarm for the underlying problem and list =E2=80=A6" That sentence is really broken in v6, my fat fat fingers. This was also = pointed out by Gert Grammel. It should read: The recommendation is to have a single alarm for the underlying problem and list the affected resources in the alarm, rather than having separate alarms for each resource >=20 > There is a larger issue about system behavior and root cause = analysis that > I think should be discussed in this section. Root cause analysis = and > side-effect analysis are not simple tasks. It is common for them = to be > performed outside of network elements. When such is performed = outside of a > network element, it is unclear what the implications are. Is it = the intent > that network elements that can not perform root cause analysis and = impacted > resource determination should NOT support this YANG module? Or can = / > should / may they support it even though they can not perform this > analysis? There is a paragraph that seems to be trying to talk = about this, > but I was left confused about what was expected. Part of my = confusion is > that the text treats this inability as rare, whereas in my = experience for > network elements such inability is common. The module does not mandate any root-cause -, impact analysis or = correlation capabilities. The purpose of this section is to describe optional leafs in the alarms = relating to presenting the result of such analysis, if supported. If the system has no such capabilities, the optional leafs are not used = and this section can be ignored. I will make that clear in this section. It would be fatal if the reader = did not use the module assuming it put requirements on correlation. >=20 > It took me a while to realize what the text in 3.7 (and 4.1.1) = about not > generating notification is talking about. The problem is that = with all > the effort to make clear that alarms are not notifications, I = missed the > fact that an alarm being raised (or re-raised) does itself cause a > notification. And that it is this re-raise notification (and other > severity change, clearing, etc notifications) that are suppressed = by the > shelving. It seems to me that there needs to be better = explanation of > this in or before 3.7. Ok, will improve description. >=20 > Reading the YANG for shelving alarms, it looks to me that while it = can do > what is described earlier in the document, the conceptual structure = is VERY > different. =46rom the YANG, to shelve a specific alarm one has to = create a > named shelf whose conditions identify the specific alarm. To selve = several > alarms that are related (for example, when the operator looks at a = list and > selects several items to shelve) the system will likely have to = create > multiple shelves, give each a unique name, and put the different = alarm > identifiers in each one. =20 The data-model uses a leaf-list for the resource which makes it possible = to define one shelf for several resources.=20 However your comments made us aware of alarm-type and alarm-qualifier = just being leafs. As you point out this may lead to situations where you need to configure several shelfs for = shelving different alarms relating to the same reason. We will change this so that several alarm-types/alarm-qualifiers can = also be defined for one shelf.=20 With this change, any arbitrary group of alarms can be configured as one = shelf. Also, we will make the list ordered-by user, and add to the description that the first matching shelf is used. Thanks for pointing this out. > To unshelve alarms, one has to find the named > shelf which has caused the shelving. This seems very awkward. It = seems > to have been designed to enable one to store the shelving reason = separate > from the alarm itself. It introduces the odd effect that if the = shelves > are used with conditions that can match more than one thing, then = one could > have several shelves shelving the same alarm, and an effort to = unshelve > might well not produce the desired result. Assuming that this = complexity is > desired by the working group, I would ask that it be explicitly = called out > in the descriptive portions of the document. See above, with the proposed change, it will always be one shelf. Finding the shelf with the shelf name should not be awkward. Note well that it is likely that there are several alarms that are = shelved due to the same shelf configuration. Take the straight-forward shelving of all alarms from a specific = interface.=20 Different alarms from that interface will then be shelved and it is = straight-forward to delete the shelf configuration that says, =E2=80=9Cif = X/Y/Z under test=E2=80=9D. This is an important feature of shelving. See above about the change to ordered-by-user, this will address your = issue of several shelves addressing the same alarm. Again, thanks for your review making us aware of this issue! >=20 > Nits: > In section 4.4 (overview of The Alarm List) tree showing the = components > of the purge-alarm operation, is there any way to make clear = that the > enumeration called alarm-status is the enumeration of filter = choices > related to whether the alarm is cleared? Maybe rename it > alarm-cleared-filter? Ok, will consider this br Stefan and Martin >=20 >=20 From nobody Tue Jan 15 14:38:27 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D7512867A; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 14:38:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.701 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.701 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=joelhalpern.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TQTw4wP57Dq5; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 14:38:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailb2.tigertech.net (mailb2.tigertech.net [208.80.4.154]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8346127598; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 14:38:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailb2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43fQGk3kHWzFpr3; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 14:38:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=joelhalpern.com; s=2.tigertech; t=1547591902; bh=l5NqbsgXTS73ZaiAHzTgUjNMSsviiL5ujTILDkZqzcU=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=erxOs6wfSM8AC03ojc/2FQ4q96uT/JVBrp9rmqMPFhfC29TWQO6N8LSFzEJkTmVlP YR8DqLTEnlp5uCf4V5XvXU71FBZhFRKWb+vMcWM1XXMA8w4hjtPIz3XuXwiYLaZ/pb x+CP6N6isSvWsA0SdS8wxu9lIYRMyRN1HkO50mOw= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at b2.tigertech.net Received: from Joels-MacBook-Pro.local (209-255-163-147.ip.mcleodusa.net [209.255.163.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailb2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 43fQGj2hrBz13Kbh; Tue, 15 Jan 2019 14:38:21 -0800 (PST) To: stefan vallin Cc: rtg-dir@ietf.org, draft-ietf-ccamp-alarm-module.all@ietf.org, "CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org)" , ietf@ietf.org References: <154714089885.30812.1684533748546533450@ietfa.amsl.com> <55998B73-A581-4A47-8D23-B88E2607EFC8@wallan.se> From: "Joel M. Halpern" Message-ID: <68a25f22-5b92-2f7b-9104-0e7e9c580a9b@joelhalpern.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 17:38:20 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <55998B73-A581-4A47-8D23-B88E2607EFC8@wallan.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Rtgdir last call review of draft-ietf-ccamp-alarm-module-06 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 22:38:25 -0000 Thank you Stefan. Your proposed clarifications sound like they will addres my concerns. Yours, Joel On 1/15/19 4:52 PM, stefan vallin wrote: > Hi Joel! > Thanks for your review, really helpful! > See inline: > >> On 10 Jan 2019, at 18:21, Joel Halpern wrote: >> Minor Issues: >> The first paragraph of section 3.6 (Root Cause, Impacted Resources and >> Related Alarms) has a confused "not", a missing preposition, and a typoed >> conjunction, making it very hard to be sure what is intended. I believe >> the first part of the sentence should read: "The recommendation is to have >> a single alarm for the underlying problem and list …" > That sentence is really broken in v6, my fat fat fingers. This was also pointed out by Gert Grammel. > It should read: > > The recommendation is to have a single alarm > for the underlying problem and list the affected resources in the > alarm, rather than having separate alarms for each resource > > >> >> There is a larger issue about system behavior and root cause analysis that >> I think should be discussed in this section. Root cause analysis and >> side-effect analysis are not simple tasks. It is common for them to be >> performed outside of network elements. When such is performed outside of a >> network element, it is unclear what the implications are. Is it the intent >> that network elements that can not perform root cause analysis and impacted >> resource determination should NOT support this YANG module? Or can / >> should / may they support it even though they can not perform this >> analysis? There is a paragraph that seems to be trying to talk about this, >> but I was left confused about what was expected. Part of my confusion is >> that the text treats this inability as rare, whereas in my experience for >> network elements such inability is common. > The module does not mandate any root-cause -, impact analysis or correlation capabilities. > The purpose of this section is to describe optional leafs in the alarms relating to presenting the result of such analysis, if supported. > If the system has no such capabilities, the optional leafs are not used and this section can be ignored. > I will make that clear in this section. It would be fatal if the reader did not use the module assuming it put requirements on correlation. >> >> It took me a while to realize what the text in 3.7 (and 4.1.1) about not >> generating notification is talking about. The problem is that with all >> the effort to make clear that alarms are not notifications, I missed the >> fact that an alarm being raised (or re-raised) does itself cause a >> notification. And that it is this re-raise notification (and other >> severity change, clearing, etc notifications) that are suppressed by the >> shelving. It seems to me that there needs to be better explanation of >> this in or before 3.7. > Ok, will improve description. >> >> Reading the YANG for shelving alarms, it looks to me that while it can do >> what is described earlier in the document, the conceptual structure is VERY >> different. From the YANG, to shelve a specific alarm one has to create a >> named shelf whose conditions identify the specific alarm. To selve several >> alarms that are related (for example, when the operator looks at a list and >> selects several items to shelve) the system will likely have to create >> multiple shelves, give each a unique name, and put the different alarm >> identifiers in each one. > The data-model uses a leaf-list for the resource which makes it possible to define one shelf for several resources. > However your comments made us aware of alarm-type and alarm-qualifier just being leafs. As you point out this may > lead to situations where you need to configure several shelfs for shelving different alarms relating to the same reason. > We will change this so that several alarm-types/alarm-qualifiers can also be defined for one shelf. > With this change, any arbitrary group of alarms can be configured as one shelf. > Also, we will make the list ordered-by user, and add to the > description that the first matching shelf is used. > > Thanks for pointing this out. > >> To unshelve alarms, one has to find the named >> shelf which has caused the shelving. This seems very awkward. It seems >> to have been designed to enable one to store the shelving reason separate >> from the alarm itself. It introduces the odd effect that if the shelves >> are used with conditions that can match more than one thing, then one could >> have several shelves shelving the same alarm, and an effort to unshelve >> might well not produce the desired result. Assuming that this complexity is >> desired by the working group, I would ask that it be explicitly called out >> in the descriptive portions of the document. > See above, with the proposed change, it will always be one shelf. > Finding the shelf with the shelf name should not be awkward. > Note well that it is likely that there are several alarms that are shelved due to the same shelf configuration. > Take the straight-forward shelving of all alarms from a specific interface. > Different alarms from that interface will then be shelved and it is straight-forward to delete the shelf configuration that says, “if X/Y/Z under test”. > This is an important feature of shelving. > > See above about the change to ordered-by-user, this will address your issue of several shelves addressing the same alarm. > Again, thanks for your review making us aware of this issue! >> >> Nits: >> In section 4.4 (overview of The Alarm List) tree showing the components >> of the purge-alarm operation, is there any way to make clear that the >> enumeration called alarm-status is the enumeration of filter choices >> related to whether the alarm is cleared? Maybe rename it >> alarm-cleared-filter? > Ok, will consider this > > br Stefan and Martin >> >> > From nobody Thu Jan 17 01:20:07 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2632612F1AC for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 01:20:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.853 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.853 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=ericsson.com header.b=KUfnaG52; dkim=fail (1024-bit key) reason="fail (body has been altered)" header.d=ericsson.com header.b=QWnqpm+N Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S1ZlWImL6uND for ; 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Daniele From: Antonello Bonfanti (abonfant) Sent: den 17 januari 2019 09:37 To: Fatai Zhang ; ccamp@ietf.org; wang.qilei@zte.com.cn; rvaliveti@infinera.com; Zhenghaomian (Zhenghaomian, Optical &Microwave Technology Research Dept) ; huubatwork@gmail.com; sergio.belotti@nokia.com; IHussain@infinera.com; Daniele Ceccarelli ; rrao@infinera.com; Italo Busi ; fanzheyu ; Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart) ; Zafar Ali (zali) ; d.king@lancaster.ac.uk; Manoj Manoj Kumar (manojk2) ; anadahal@cisco.com Cc: ccamp-chairs@ietf.org Subject: Re: IPR Polling on [draft-merge-ccamp-gmpls-otn-b100g-applicability-00] Hi, "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" Regards, Antonello From: Fatai Zhang > Date: Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 03:01 To: "ccamp@ietf.org " >, "wang.qilei@zte.com.cn " >, "rvaliveti@infinera.com " >, "Zhenghaomian (Zhenghaomian, Optical &Microwave Technology Research Dept)" >, "huubatwork@gmail.com " >, "sergio.belotti@nokia.com " >, "IHussain@infinera.com " >, "daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com " >, "rrao@infinera.com " >, Fatai Zhang >, Italo Busi >, fanzheyu , "Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart)" >, Zafar Ali >, "d.king@lancaster.ac.uk " >, "Manoj Manoj Kumar (manojk2)" >, Antonello Bonfanti >, "anadahal@cisco.com " > Cc: "ccamp-chairs@ietf.org " > Subject: IPR Polling on [draft-merge-ccamp-gmpls-otn-b100g-applicability-00] Hi all, As part of preparation for WG Adoption on [draft-merge-ccamp-gmpls-otn-b100g-applicability-00], here is the IPR polling. 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Daniele=C2=A0

 

From: Antonello Bonfanti (abonfant) = <abonfant@cisco.com>
Sent: den 17 januari 2019 = 09:37
To: Fatai Zhang <zhangfatai@huawei.com>; = ccamp@ietf.org; wang.qilei@zte.com.cn; rvaliveti@infinera.com; = Zhenghaomian (Zhenghaomian, Optical &Microwave Technology Research = Dept) <zhenghaomian@huawei.com>; huubatwork@gmail.com; = sergio.belotti@nokia.com; IHussain@infinera.com; Daniele Ceccarelli = <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>; rrao@infinera.com; Italo Busi = <Italo.Busi@huawei.com>; fanzheyu = <IMCEAEX-_O=3DHUAWEI+20EXCHANGE+20ORG_OU=3DEXCHANGE+20ADMINISTRATIVE+2= 0GROUP+20+28FYDIBOHF23SPDLT+29_CN=3DRECIPIENTS_CN=3DFanzheyu+2000403544dc= a@huawei.com>; Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart) = <dieter.beller@nokia.com>; Zafar Ali (zali) = <zali@cisco.com>; d.king@lancaster.ac.uk; Manoj Manoj Kumar = (manojk2) <manojk2@cisco.com>; anadahal@cisco.com
Cc: = ccamp-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: Re: IPR Polling on = [draft-merge-ccamp-gmpls-otn-b100g-applicability-00]

 

Hi,

 

"No, I'm not aware of any = IPR that applies to this draft"

 

Regards,

Antonello

 

From: Fatai Zhang <zhangfatai@huawei.com>
Date: Saturday, 22 December 2018 at 03:01
To: "ccamp@ietf.org" <ccamp@ietf.org>, "wang.qilei@zte.com.cn" = <wang.qilei@zte.com.cn>, = "rvaliveti@infinera.com" = <rvaliveti@infinera.com>, = "Zhenghaomian (Zhenghaomian, Optical &Microwave Technology = Research Dept)" <zhenghaomian@huawei.com>, = "huubatwork@gmail.com" = <huubatwork@gmail.com>, = "sergio.belotti@nokia.com&quo= t; <sergio.belotti@nokia.com>= , "IHussain@infinera.com" = <IHussain@infinera.com>, = "daniele.ceccarelli@ericss= on.com" <daniele.ceccarelli@ericss= on.com>, "rrao@infinera.com" <rrao@infinera.com>, Fatai Zhang = <zhangfatai@huawei.com>, = Italo Busi <Italo.Busi@huawei.com>, = fanzheyu = <IMCEAEX-_O=3DHUAWEI+20EXCHANGE+20ORG_OU=3DEXCHANGE+20ADMINISTRATIVE+2= 0GROUP+20+28FYDIBOHF23SPDLT+29_CN=3DRECIPIENTS_CN=3DFanzheyu+2000403544dc= a@huawei.com>, "Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart)" = <dieter.beller@nokia.com>, = Zafar Ali <zali@cisco.com>, = "d.king@lancaster.ac.uk" = <d.king@lancaster.ac.uk>, = "Manoj Manoj Kumar (manojk2)" <manojk2@cisco.com>, Antonello = Bonfanti <abonfant@cisco.com>, "anadahal@cisco.com" <anadahal@cisco.com>
Cc: = "ccamp-chairs@ietf.org" = <ccamp-chairs@ietf.org>
Subject: IPR Polling on = [draft-merge-ccamp-gmpls-otn-b100g-applicability-00]

 

Hi all,

 

As part of preparation for WG Adoption on = [draft-merge-ccamp-gmpls-otn-b100g-applicability-00], here is the IPR = polling.

 

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified = above?

 

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this = draft"

or

"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this = draft"

 

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF = IPR rules (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)?

If yes to the above, please state either:

 

"Yes, the IPR has been = disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"

or

"No, the IPR has not been = disclosed"

 

If you answer no, please provide any additional details you = think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or contributor = please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of = whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR.

 

NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU = LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES.

 

If you are on the CCAMP WG email = list but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of = your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify = the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or = to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related = to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs = listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty= .

 

 

Thanks

 

Fatai & Daniele

 

 

 

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Authors, Contributors, CCAMP, =

 

Since it is becoming very difficult to collect IPR = declarations from all the authors of the drafts let’s try with a = new one.

This time we’re talking about the adoption of = draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 as a working group document. =

 

 

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified = above?

 

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any = IPR that applies to this draft"

or

"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that = applies to this draft"

 

If so, has this IPR been = disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 = and 5378 for more details)?

If yes to the above, please = state either:

 

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with = IETF IPR rules"

or

"No, the IPR has not been = disclosed"

 

If you answer no, please provide any additional details you = think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or contributor = please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of = whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. =

 

NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S = TO LINES.

 

If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as = an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the = IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware = of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from = participating in any contribution or discussion related to your = undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above = and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/Intellectual= Property.

 

Thank you,

Daniele & Fatai

 

 

 

 

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x-originating-ip: [10.169.30.234] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_9C5FD3EFA72E1740A3D41BADDE0B461FCFAF25BEDGGEMM528MBXchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] IPR polling - draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 10:41:36 -0000 --_000_9C5FD3EFA72E1740A3D41BADDE0B461FCFAF25BEDGGEMM528MBXchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Amy From: Daniele Ceccarelli [mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 6:39 PM To: Italo Busi ; Xufeng_Liu@jabil.com; Yemin (Amy) <= amy.yemin@huawei.com>; Aihuaguo (Aihua Guo, CRC) ; Jon= as Ahlberg ; Xi.Li@neclab.eu; daniela.spreafico= @nokia.com Cc: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) Subject: IPR polling - draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 Authors, Contributors, CCAMP, Since it is becoming very difficult to collect IPR declarations from all th= e authors of the drafts let's try with a new one. This time we're talking about the adoption of draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-0= 2 as a working group document. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see R= FCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? 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No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

 

Amy

From:<= /span> Daniele Ceccarelli [m= ailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 6:39 PM
To: Italo Busi <Italo.Busi@huawei.com>; Xufeng_Liu@jabil.com; = Yemin (Amy) <amy.yemin@huawei.com>; Aihuaguo (Aihua Guo, CRC) <aih= uaguo@huawei.com>; Jonas Ahlberg <jonas.ahlberg@ericsson.com>; Xi.= Li@neclab.eu; daniela.spreafico@nokia.com
Cc: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) <ccamp@ietf.org>
Subject: IPR polling - draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02

 

Authors, Contributors, CCAMP,

 

Since it is becoming very difficult to collect IP= R declarations from all the authors of the drafts let’s try with a ne= w one.

This time we’re talking about the adoption = of draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 as a working group document.

 

 

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft id= entified above?

 

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies t= o this draft"

or

"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this = draft"

 

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance = with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?<= o:p>

If yes to the above, please state either:

 

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in complian= ce with IETF IPR rules"

or

"No, the IPR has not been disclosed"

 

If you answer no, please provide any additional d= etails you think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or con= tributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of = whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR.

 

NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS M= ESSAGE'S TO LINES.

 

If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not= listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations unde= r the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are awa= re of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related= to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed = above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/gro= up/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

 

Thank you,

Daniele & Fatai<= /span>

 

 

=  

 

--_000_9C5FD3EFA72E1740A3D41BADDE0B461FCFAF25BEDGGEMM528MBXchi_-- From nobody Thu Jan 17 03:05:39 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD93130DD8 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 03:05:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z2Gj6-_oGo8g for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 03:05:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A91712F1AC for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 03:05:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhreml708-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.108]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 4ABD490B832B91C78529; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 11:05:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML504-MBS.china.huawei.com ([10.201.109.59]) by lhreml708-cah.china.huawei.com ([10.201.108.49]) with mapi id 14.03.0415.000; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 11:05:23 +0000 From: Italo Busi To: Daniele Ceccarelli , "Xufeng_Liu@jabil.com" , "Yemin (Amy)" , "Aihuaguo (Aihua Guo, CRC)" , Jonas Ahlberg , "Xi.Li@neclab.eu" , "daniela.spreafico@nokia.com" CC: "CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org)" Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] IPR polling - draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 Thread-Index: AdSuUMQNa70eKpYFQX+REo+MLzBI7AAA8WoQ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 11:05:22 +0000 Message-ID: <91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B2769C8C3@lhreml504-mbs> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: it-IT, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.203.246.251] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B2769C8C3lhreml504mbs_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] IPR polling - draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 11:05:37 -0000 --_000_91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B2769C8C3lhreml504mbs_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft Thanks, Italo From: Daniele Ceccarelli [mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com] Sent: gioved=EC 17 gennaio 2019 11:39 To: Italo Busi ; Xufeng_Liu@jabil.com; Yemin (Amy) <= amy.yemin@huawei.com>; Aihuaguo (Aihua Guo, CRC) ; Jon= as Ahlberg ; Xi.Li@neclab.eu; daniela.spreafico= @nokia.com Cc: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) Subject: [CCAMP] IPR polling - draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 Authors, Contributors, CCAMP, Since it is becoming very difficult to collect IPR declarations from all th= e authors of the drafts let's try with a new one. This time we're talking about the adoption of draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-0= 2 as a working group document. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see R= FCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropria= te. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the= above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are awa= re of any relevant IPR. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or co= ntributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which= encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an = IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or = discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please se= e the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki= /IntellectualProperty. Thank you, Daniele & Fatai --_000_91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B2769C8C3lhreml504mbs_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this dr= aft

 

Thanks, Italo

 

From:<= /span> Daniele Ceccarelli [m= ailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com]
Sent: gioved=EC 17 gennaio 2019 11:39
To: Italo Busi <Italo.Busi@huawei.com>; Xufeng_Liu@jabil.com; = Yemin (Amy) <amy.yemin@huawei.com>; Aihuaguo (Aihua Guo, CRC) <aih= uaguo@huawei.com>; Jonas Ahlberg <jonas.ahlberg@ericsson.com>; Xi.= Li@neclab.eu; daniela.spreafico@nokia.com
Cc: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) <ccamp@ietf.org>
Subject: [CCAMP] IPR polling - draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02

 

Authors, Contributors, CCAMP,

 

Since it is becoming very difficult to collect IP= R declarations from all the authors of the drafts let’s try with a ne= w one.

This time we’re talking about the adoption = of draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 as a working group document.

 

 

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft id= entified above?

 

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies t= o this draft"

or

"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this = draft"

 

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance = with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?<= o:p>

If yes to the above, please state either:

 

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in complian= ce with IETF IPR rules"

or

"No, the IPR has not been disclosed"

 

If you answer no, please provide any additional d= etails you think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or con= tributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of = whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR.

 

NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS M= ESSAGE'S TO LINES.

 

If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not= listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations unde= r the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are awa= re of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related= to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed = above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/gro= up/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

 

Thank you,

Daniele & Fatai<= /span>

 

 

=  

 

--_000_91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B2769C8C3lhreml504mbs_-- From nobody Thu Jan 17 03:25:12 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B02130F4A for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 03:25:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4O7ZFpsdHAo4 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 03:25:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailer1.neclab.eu (mailer1.neclab.eu [195.37.70.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0AB612F1AC for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 03:25:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailer1.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC1B8104CD3; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 12:25:04 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Amavisd on Debian GNU/Linux (netlab.nec.de) Received: from mailer1.neclab.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (atlas-a.office.hd [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JLfspMZ8fRnc; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 12:25:04 +0100 (CET) X-ENC: Last-Hop-TLS-encrypted X-ENC: Last-Hop-TLS-encrypted Received: from METHONE.office.hd (METHONE.office.hd [192.168.24.54]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailer1.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F363104CCF; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 12:24:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from PALLENE.office.hd ([169.254.1.223]) by METHONE.office.hd ([192.168.24.54]) with mapi id 14.03.0319.002; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 12:24:48 +0100 From: Xi Li To: Daniele Ceccarelli , Italo Busi , "Xufeng_Liu@jabil.com" , "Yemin (Amy)" , "aihuaguo@huawei.com" , Jonas Ahlberg , "daniela.spreafico@nokia.com" CC: "CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org)" Thread-Topic: IPR polling - draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 Thread-Index: AdSuUMQNa70eKpYFQX+REo+MLzBI7AABm0bw Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 11:24:47 +0000 Message-ID: <139E9C21EC047B43BA40AD7031AC09BE5452D9F5@PALLENE.office.hd> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US, de-DE Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.7.0.202] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_139E9C21EC047B43BA40AD7031AC09BE5452D9F5PALLENEofficehd_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] IPR polling - draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 11:25:11 -0000 --_000_139E9C21EC047B43BA40AD7031AC09BE5452D9F5PALLENEofficehd_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Thanks and BR Xi From: Daniele Ceccarelli [mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com] Sent: Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2019 11:39 To: Italo Busi; Xufeng_Liu@jabil.com; Yemin (Amy); aihuaguo@huawei.com; Jon= as Ahlberg; Xi Li; daniela.spreafico@nokia.com Cc: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) Subject: IPR polling - draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 Authors, Contributors, CCAMP, Since it is becoming very difficult to collect IPR declarations from all th= e authors of the drafts let's try with a new one. This time we're talking about the adoption of draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-0= 2 as a working group document. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see R= FCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropria= te. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the= above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are awa= re of any relevant IPR. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or co= ntributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which= encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an = IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or = discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please se= e the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki= /IntellectualProperty. Thank you, Daniele & Fatai --_000_139E9C21EC047B43BA40AD7031AC09BE5452D9F5PALLENEofficehd_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

 

Thanks and BR

Xi

 

 

From: Daniele Ceccarelli [mailto:da= niele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com]
Sent: Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2019 11:39
To: Italo Busi; Xufeng_Liu@jabil.com; Yemin (Amy); aihuaguo@huawei.c= om; Jonas Ahlberg; Xi Li; daniela.spreafico@nokia.com
Cc: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org)
Subject: IPR polling - draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02

 

Authors, Contributors, CCAMP,

 

Since it is becoming very difficult to collect IP= R declarations from all the authors of the drafts let’s try with a ne= w one.

This time we’re talking about the adoption = of draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 as a working group document.

 

 

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft id= entified above?

 

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies t= o this draft"

or

"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this = draft"

 

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance = with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?<= o:p>

If yes to the above, please state either:

 

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in complian= ce with IETF IPR rules"

or

"No, the IPR has not been disclosed"

 

If you answer no, please provide any additional d= etails you think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or con= tributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of = whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR.

 

NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS M= ESSAGE'S TO LINES.

 

If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not= listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations unde= r the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are awa= re of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related= to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed = above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/gro= up/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

 

Thank you,

Daniele & Fatai<= /span>

 

 

=  

 

--_000_139E9C21EC047B43BA40AD7031AC09BE5452D9F5PALLENEofficehd_-- From nobody Thu Jan 17 04:02:56 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietf.org Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3EDE130F56; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 04:02:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: ccamp@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.89.3 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ccamp@ietf.org Message-ID: <154772657480.27325.18392671264271829301@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 04:02:54 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability-13.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 12:02:55 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane WG of the IETF. Title : Ethernet Traffic Parameters with Availability Information Authors : Hao Long Min Ye Greg Mirsky Alessandro D'Alessandro Himanshu Shah Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability-13.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2019-01-17 Abstract: A packet switching network may contain links with variable bandwidth, e.g., copper, radio, etc. The bandwidth of such links is sensitive to external environment (e.g., climate). Availability is typically used for describing these links when during network planning. This document introduces an optional Availability TLV in Resource ReSerVation Protocol - Traffic Engineer (RSVP-TE) signaling. This extension can be used to set up a Generalized Multi- Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Label Switched Path (LSP) using the Ethernet SENDER_TSPEC object. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability-13 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability-13 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability-13 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Thu Jan 17 04:13:12 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC2F130F27 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 04:13:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dINjK56eW1y2 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 04:13:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC2F212950A for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 04:13:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from LHREML710-CAH.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.107]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 47C0DC89D49D2A943C6B for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 12:13:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from DGGEMM406-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.3.20.214) by LHREML710-CAH.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.33) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.408.0; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 12:13:03 +0000 Received: from DGGEMM528-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.8.187]) by DGGEMM406-HUB.china.huawei.com ([10.3.20.214]) with mapi id 14.03.0415.000; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 20:12:58 +0800 From: "Yemin (Amy)" To: "ccamp@ietf.org" , "Bocci, Matthew (Nokia - GB)" Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability-13.txt Thread-Index: AQHUrlzEI0v+W+1J4ke1qxXYTuO6haWzXd1Q Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 12:12:57 +0000 Message-ID: <9C5FD3EFA72E1740A3D41BADDE0B461FCFAF2629@DGGEMM528-MBX.china.huawei.com> References: <154772657480.27325.18392671264271829301@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <154772657480.27325.18392671264271829301@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.169.30.234] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability-13.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 12:13:11 -0000 Dear all,=20 With the help from our AD Deborah, the draft is updated with readability im= provement.=20 Please review and comment.=20 BR, Amy (on behalf of co-authors) -----Original Message----- From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ie= tf.org Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 8:03 PM To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ccamp@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availabilit= y-13.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane WG of= the IETF. Title : Ethernet Traffic Parameters with Availability Inf= ormation Authors : Hao Long Min Ye Greg Mirsky Alessandro D'Alessandro Himanshu Shah Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability-13.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2019-01-17 Abstract: A packet switching network may contain links with variable bandwidth, e.g., copper, radio, etc. The bandwidth of such links is sensitive to external environment (e.g., climate). Availability is typically used for describing these links when during network planning. This document introduces an optional Availability TLV in Resource ReSerVation Protocol - Traffic Engineer (RSVP-TE) signaling. This extension can be used to set up a Generalized Multi- Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Label Switched Path (LSP) using the Ethernet SENDER_TSPEC object. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availab= ility/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability= -13 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-av= ailability-13 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-avai= lability-13 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft BR, Daniela From: Daniele Ceccarelli Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 11:39 AM To: Italo Busi ; Xufeng_Liu@jabil.com; Yemin (Amy) <= amy.yemin@huawei.com>; aihuaguo@huawei.com; Jonas Ahlberg ; Xi.Li@neclab.eu; Spreafico, Daniela (Nokia - IT/Vimercate) Cc: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) Subject: IPR polling - draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 Authors, Contributors, CCAMP, Since it is becoming very difficult to collect IPR declarations from all th= e authors of the drafts let's try with a new one. This time we're talking about the adoption of draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-0= 2 as a working group document. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see R= FCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropria= te. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the= above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are awa= re of any relevant IPR. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or co= ntributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which= encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an = IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or = discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please se= e the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki= /IntellectualProperty. Thank you, Daniele & Fatai --_000_AM4PR07MB3203FCE3A11D5637D6E2A96CE5830AM4PR07MB3203eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

No, I'm not aware of any IPR th= at applies to this draft

 

BR, Daniela

 

From: Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 11:39 AM
To: Italo Busi <Italo.Busi@huawei.com>; Xufeng_Liu@jabil.com; = Yemin (Amy) <amy.yemin@huawei.com>; aihuaguo@huawei.com; Jonas Ahlber= g <jonas.ahlberg@ericsson.com>; Xi.Li@neclab.eu; Spreafico, Daniela (= Nokia - IT/Vimercate) <daniela.spreafico@nokia.com>
Cc: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) <ccamp@ietf.org>
Subject: IPR polling - draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02

 

Authors, Contributors, CCAMP= ,

 

Since it is becoming very di= fficult to collect IPR declarations from all the authors of the drafts let&= #8217;s try with a new one.

This time we’re talkin= g about the adoption of draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 as a working group d= ocument.

 

 

Are you aware of any IPR tha= t applies to draft identified above?

 

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of a= ny IPR that applies to this draft"

or

"Yes, I'm aware of IPR = that applies to this draft"

 

If so, has this IPR been dis= closed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 537= 8 for more details)?

If yes to the above, please = state either:

 

"Yes, the IPR has been = disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"

or

"No, the IPR has not be= en disclosed"

 

If you answer no, please pro= vide any additional details you think appropriate. If you are listed as a d= ocument author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this= email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR.

 

NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF= YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES.

 

If you are on the CCAMP WG e= mail list but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of = your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify th= e IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribut= ion or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, pl= ease see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.= org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

 

Thank you,

Daniele & Fatai<= /span>

 

 

 <= /o:p>

 

--_000_AM4PR07MB3203FCE3A11D5637D6E2A96CE5830AM4PR07MB3203eurp_-- From nobody Thu Jan 17 05:33:02 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD73130DD3 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 05:33:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VoVge4G8OeTP for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 05:32:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F8341286E7 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 05:32:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.106]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 066F2C517554C84FDC9B; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 13:32:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.208.112.40) by lhreml704-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.45) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.408.0; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 13:32:55 +0000 Received: from SJCEML521-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.1.25]) by SJCEML701-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.3.117]) with mapi id 14.03.0415.000; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 05:32:46 -0800 From: "Aihuaguo (Aihua Guo, CRC)" To: Daniele Ceccarelli , Italo Busi , "Xufeng_Liu@jabil.com" , "Yemin (Amy)" , Jonas Ahlberg , "Xi.Li@neclab.eu" , "daniela.spreafico@nokia.com" CC: "CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org)" Thread-Topic: IPR polling - draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 Thread-Index: AdSuUMQNa70eKpYFQX+REo+MLzBI7AAGDNrg Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 13:32:45 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.47.142.75] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_AEF103518CA8F84D97E39F644BC803CB28A600C7sjceml521mbxchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] IPR polling - draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 13:33:01 -0000 --_000_AEF103518CA8F84D97E39F644BC803CB28A600C7sjceml521mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft Aihua From: Daniele Ceccarelli [mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 5:39 AM To: Italo Busi ; Xufeng_Liu@jabil.com; Yemin (Amy) <= amy.yemin@huawei.com>; Aihuaguo (Aihua Guo, CRC) ; Jon= as Ahlberg ; Xi.Li@neclab.eu; daniela.spreafico= @nokia.com Cc: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) Subject: IPR polling - draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 Authors, Contributors, CCAMP, Since it is becoming very difficult to collect IPR declarations from all th= e authors of the drafts let's try with a new one. This time we're talking about the adoption of draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-0= 2 as a working group document. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see R= FCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropria= te. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the= above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are awa= re of any relevant IPR. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or co= ntributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which= encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an = IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or = discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please se= e the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki= /IntellectualProperty. Thank you, Daniele & Fatai --_000_AEF103518CA8F84D97E39F644BC803CB28A600C7sjceml521mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

No, I'm not aware of any IPR th= at applies to this draft

 

Aihua

 

 

From: Daniele Ceccarelli [mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 5:39 AM
To: Italo Busi <Italo.Busi@huawei.com>; Xufeng_Liu@jabil.com; = Yemin (Amy) <amy.yemin@huawei.com>; Aihuaguo (Aihua Guo, CRC) <aih= uaguo@huawei.com>; Jonas Ahlberg <jonas.ahlberg@ericsson.com>; Xi.= Li@neclab.eu; daniela.spreafico@nokia.com
Cc: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) <ccamp@ietf.org>
Subject: IPR polling - draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02

 

Authors, Contributors, CCAMP= ,

 

Since it is becoming very di= fficult to collect IPR declarations from all the authors of the drafts let&= #8217;s try with a new one.

This time we’re talkin= g about the adoption of draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 as a working group d= ocument.

 

 

Are you aware of any IPR tha= t applies to draft identified above?

 

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of a= ny IPR that applies to this draft"

or

"Yes, I'm aware of IPR = that applies to this draft"

 

If so, has this IPR been dis= closed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 537= 8 for more details)?

If yes to the above, please = state either:

 

"Yes, the IPR has been = disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"

or

"No, the IPR has not be= en disclosed"

 

If you answer no, please pro= vide any additional details you think appropriate. If you are listed as a d= ocument author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this= email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR.

 

NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF= YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES.

 

If you are on the CCAMP WG e= mail list but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of = your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify th= e IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribut= ion or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, pl= ease see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.= org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

 

Thank you,

Daniele & Fatai<= /span>

 

 

=  

 

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boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0306_01D4AE77.09DF2FF0" ------=_NextPart_001_0306_01D4AE77.09DF2FF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Authors, I reviewed draft-izh-ccamp-flexe-fwk. Please find below my comments. * Figure 1: I don't understand the figure. So far the main topic is the fact that MAC rate and PHY rate do not necessarily map 1:1 but now I don't understand what this reference model means. Can you add some text? * Section 4: you jump directly to the requirement without describing what the framework is. I would expect a section before section 4 that describes what you want to achieve, and then requirements. The direction we're having lately from the IESG is that requirements not necessarily need to be published. You can take them out in a separate document that we can adopt but then not publish or keep in a section of this document and the we put them in appendix, as you prefer. * - You start talking directly about the requirement of supporting the creation of a flexE group and the only description of a flexE groups is 3 lines in the terminology. The section described above is really needed. * Section 5. As above. This needs to be introduced somehow. Moreover I agree with the creation of the FlexE group, but does GMPLS configure clients? * "Set up of a higher layer LSP that requires to be run over a FlexE infrastructure."this is something that already exists. Whether an LSP is created over a FlexE, an optical trail or a classical Eth link is independent on the underlay technology. * "5.1. Types of LSPs in a FlexE capable network. " isnt' the FlexE the underlay with respect to the LSP? You might talk about procedures for setting up LSPs in a FlexE network, not types of LSP. * Moreover if FlexE groups and clients are already preconfigured we're in a classical non FlexE scenario, right? * Instead of starting straight with a multilayer control plane I would talk about just the control plane of FlexE and the eventually talk about all the possible solutions for the combination of control planes (FlexE and LSP), confederated, multilayer etc. * Probably section 6 is a good candidate for the intro section missing before section 4 (the one I was describing above) * 6.2.1 I would spend more time describing the architecture rather than jumping directly to signaling and routing. Describe the data plane and what you want to achieve, before jumping into what needs to be advertised and what needs to be signaled. * Section 7. What is a flexE LSP? I expect to read this in the new section (architecture/framework?) BR Daniele ------=_NextPart_001_0306_01D4AE77.09DF2FF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Authors,

 

I reviewed = draft-izh-ccamp-flexe-fwk. Please find below my = comments.

 

  • Figure 1: I don't understand the figure. So far the main = topic is the fact that MAC rate and PHY rate do not necessarily map 1:1 = but now I don't understand what this reference model means. Can you add = some text?
  • Section 4: you jump directly to the requirement without = describing what the framework is. I would expect a section before = section 4 that describes what you want to achieve, and then = requirements. The direction we’re having lately from the IESG is = that requirements not necessarily need to be published. You can take = them out in a separate document that we can adopt but then not publish = or keep in a section of this document and the we put them in appendix, = as you prefer.
  • - = You start talking directly about the requirement of supporting the = creation of a flexE group and the only description of a flexE groups is = 3 lines in the terminology. The section described above is really = needed.
  • Section 5. As above. This needs to be introduced somehow. = Moreover I agree with the creation of the FlexE group, but does GMPLS = configure clients?
  • “Set up of a higher layer LSP that requires to be run = over a FlexE infrastructure.”this is something that already = exists. Whether an LSP is created over a FlexE, an optical trail or a = classical Eth link is independent on the underlay = technology.
  • “5.1.  Types of LSPs in a FlexE capable network. = “ isnt’ the FlexE the underlay with respect to the LSP? You = might talk about procedures for setting up LSPs in a FlexE network, not = types of LSP.
  • Moreover if FlexE groups and clients are already = preconfigured we’re in a classical non FlexE scenario, = right?
  • Instead of starting straight with a multilayer control = plane I would talk about just the control plane of FlexE and the = eventually talk about all the possible solutions for the combination of = control planes (FlexE and LSP), confederated, multilayer = etc.
  • Probably section 6 is a good candidate for the intro = section missing before section 4 (the one I was describing = above)
  • 6.2.1 I would spend more time describing the architecture = rather than jumping directly to signaling and routing. Describe the data = plane and what you want to achieve, before jumping into what needs to be = advertised and what needs to be signaled.
  • Section 7. What is a flexE LSP? I expect to = read this in the new section = (architecture/framework?)

 

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Daniele 

 

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Regards JonasA From: Daniele Ceccarelli Sent: den 17 januari 2019 11:39 To: Italo Busi ; Xufeng_Liu@jabil.com; Yemin (Amy) ; aihuaguo@huawei.com; Jonas Ahlberg ; Xi.Li@neclab.eu; daniela.spreafico@nokia.com Cc: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) Subject: IPR polling - draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 Authors, Contributors, CCAMP, Since it is becoming very difficult to collect IPR declarations from all the authors of the drafts let's try with a new one. This time we're talking about the adoption of draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 as a working group document. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. 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No, I'm not aware of any IPR that = applies to this draft.

 

Regards

JonasA

 

From: Daniele Ceccarelli
Sent: = den 17 januari 2019 11:39
To: Italo Busi = <Italo.Busi@huawei.com>; Xufeng_Liu@jabil.com; Yemin (Amy) = <amy.yemin@huawei.com>; aihuaguo@huawei.com; Jonas Ahlberg = <jonas.ahlberg@ericsson.com>; Xi.Li@neclab.eu; = daniela.spreafico@nokia.com
Cc: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) = <ccamp@ietf.org>
Subject: IPR polling - = draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02

 

Authors, Contributors, CCAMP,

 

Since it is becoming very = difficult to collect IPR declarations from all the authors of the drafts = let’s try with a new one.

This time we’re talking = about the adoption of draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 as a working group = document.

 

 

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified = above?

 

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any = IPR that applies to this draft"

or

"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that = applies to this draft"

 

If so, has this IPR been = disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 = and 5378 for more details)?

If yes to the above, please = state either:

 

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with = IETF IPR rules"

or

"No, the IPR has not been = disclosed"

 

If you answer no, please provide any additional details you = think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or contributor = please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of = whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. =

 

NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S = TO LINES.

 

If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as = an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under the = IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware = of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from = participating in any contribution or discussion related to your = undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above = and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/Intellectual= Property.

 

Thank you,

Daniele & Fatai

 

 

 

 

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Do not cli= ck links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the c= ontent is safe. Hi all, As part of preparation for WG Adoption on [draft-merge-ccamp-gmpls-otn-b100= g-applicability-00], here is the IPR polling. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? Please state either: "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" or "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see R= FCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)? If yes to the above, please state either: "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" or "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropria= te. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the= above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are awa= re of any relevant IPR. NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES. If you are on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or co= ntributor, we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which= encourages you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an = IETF contribution, or to refrain from participating in any contribution or = discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. For more information, please se= e the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki= /IntellectualProperty. Thanks Fatai & Daniele --_000_BYAPR10MB373661816C2EA6C3D283617AB7830BYAPR10MB3736namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

"= ;No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"

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Best = regards,

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Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 6:02 PM
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Subject: IPR Polling on [draft-merge-ccamp-gmpls-otn-b100g-applicabi= lity-00]

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CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. = Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.

 

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As part of preparation for WG Ad= option on [draft-merge-ccamp-gmpls-otn-b100g-applicability-00], here is the= IPR polling.

 

Are you a= ware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above?

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Please st= ate either:

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If you an= swer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. If yo= u are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by= responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR.

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NOTE: THI= S APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES.

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If you ar= e on the CCAMP WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor= , we remind you of your obligations under the IETF IPR rules which encourag= es you to notify the IETF if you are aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from partici= pating in any contribution or discussion related to your undisclosed IPR. F= or more information, please see the RFCs listed above and http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

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--_000_BYAPR10MB373661816C2EA6C3D283617AB7830BYAPR10MB3736namp_-- From nobody Thu Jan 17 11:37:25 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietf.org Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C2FF130F66; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 11:37:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.89.3 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk CC: Daniele Ceccarelli , ccamp-chairs@ietf.org, db3546@att.com, ccamp@ietf.org, daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com, draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability@ietf.org Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Sender: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Message-ID: <154775383807.10457.17083415429513365525.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 11:37:18 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [CCAMP] Last Call: (Ethernet Traffic Parameters with Availability Information) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 19:37:18 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the Common Control and Measurement Plane WG (ccamp) to consider the following document: - 'Ethernet Traffic Parameters with Availability Information' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2019-01-31. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract A packet switching network may contain links with variable bandwidth, e.g., copper, radio, etc. The bandwidth of such links is sensitive to external environment (e.g., climate). Availability is typically used for describing these links when during network planning. This document introduces an optional Availability TLV in Resource ReSerVation Protocol - Traffic Engineer (RSVP-TE) signaling. This extension can be used to set up a Generalized Multi- Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Label Switched Path (LSP) using the Ethernet SENDER_TSPEC object. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability/ IESG discussion can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability/ballot/ The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2414/ From nobody Fri Jan 18 04:48:30 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E61DE130F4A; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 04:48:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uUBrwcSoA1eY; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 04:48:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8011D130F56; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 04:48:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.20] (unknown [119.94.174.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 39BA11802AAA; Fri, 18 Jan 2019 13:48:20 +0100 (CET) To: Daniele Ceccarelli , "draft-izh-ccamp-flexe-fwk@ietf.org" Cc: "CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org)" References: From: Loa Andersson Message-ID: <0a5b677e-5fcb-0a18-fda4-34326493daf1@pi.nu> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 20:48:14 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] my review of draft-izh-ccamp-flexe-fwk X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 12:48:29 -0000 Daniele, On 2019-01-17 22:12, Daniele Ceccarelli wrote:> Authors, > > I reviewed draft-izh-ccamp-flexe-fwk. Please find below my comments. > > * Figure 1: I don't understand the figure. So far the main topic is > the fact that MAC rate and PHY rate do not necessarily map 1:1 but > now I don't understand what this reference model means. Can you > add some text? Thanks for a careful review, much appreciated. As for your first point I have a working copy pre-07 and have added the following text to the Introductio: This document is a framework for the network control plane signaling and routing extensions required to establish FlexE links (FlexE Groups (PHY) and FlexE CLients (MAC)). FlexE Links may interconnect customer edge devices (CE to CE), CE to provider edge devices (PE), PE to PE, or devices at the edge to devices in the core (PE to P) or devices in the core (P to P). Any pair of neighboring L2 and L3 device that support FlexE interfaces may be interconnected P2P using a FlexE link (PHY and MAC). Further a device that terminates a FlexE link MUST be able to extract either the L2 or L3 payload and switch on the appropriate level, i.e. Ethernet, MPLS or IP. It should be noted that any type of switching is outside is out of scope for the FlexE specification. FlexE CE devices may typically be L3 routers or other devices that use FlexE at layers 1 and 2 to provide point-to-point connectivity between each other. Thus this draft considers the cases in which the two peer FlexE devices are: o interconnecting two parts of a customer network (CE to CE). o at the edge of the customer network (CE) and the close edge of the provider network (PE to CE). o opposite edges of the FlexE capable network (PE tom PE). o at the edge of the FlexE network PE interconnected to a provider device (PE to P). o interconnecting two provider devices (P to P). This list of deployment cases will help identify the GMPLS control plane (i.e. routing and signaling) extensions that may be required to support establishment of FlexE services. And changed the reference model like this; 4. FlexE Reference Model The figure below gives a simplified FlexE reference model. +-----+ | P | ...........+-+-+-+............. n x PHY . n x | | m x . . crunched | | crunched . +----+ +-----+ PHYs | | PHYs +-----+ +----+ | CE +------+ PE1 +------------+ +--------------+ PE2 +----+ CE | +----+ +-----+ +-----+ +----+ . . +----+ p x PHY . . +----+ | CE +-----------------------------------------------------+ CE | +----+ . . +----+ . OTN Network . . . ............................... +----+ q x PHY +----+ | CE +-----------------------------------------------------+ CE | +----+ +----+ Legend: m, n, p and q indicates how many PHYs there are in a FlexE Group Would this be a step in the right direction?? /Loa > > BR > > Daniele > > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > -- Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu Senior MPLS Expert Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Sat Jan 19 19:08:00 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D32AA130F2A for ; Sat, 19 Jan 2019 19:07:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.198 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.198 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, 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20 Jan 2019 18:14:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1D95127AC2 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2019 18:14:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.255.249.2] (unknown [176.126.84.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C68EE1802A82; Mon, 21 Jan 2019 03:14:32 +0100 (CET) To: wang.qilei@zte.com.cn, niu.xiaobing@zte.com.cn Cc: ccamp@ietf.org, ccamp-chairs@tools.ietf.org References: <201901201107461619529@zte.com.cn> From: Loa Andersson Message-ID: <03b1a1fb-0370-98c7-2c42-dac120741b43@pi.nu> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 10:14:28 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201901201107461619529@zte.com.cn> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Fwd: New Version Notification fordraft-izh-ccamp-flexe-fwk-06.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 02:14:41 -0000 Qilei and Xiaobing, I don't get it, or my questions are not clear. On 2019-01-20 11:07, wang.qilei@zte.com.cn wrote: > Hi Loa, > > > I think the answer to your second question is yes. I take that to mean that you agree that "flows" maybe steered to different FlexE Clients. Great! > > > If I understand Xiaobing correctly, I think he wanted to answer your > question in another way. That is once a MAC frame is formed, the > encapsulation of this MAC frame to FlexE client is in one single > pipeline. So once the Ethernet Frame is encapsulated, it is dedicated for a particular FlexE Client. > Transcoding work is mainly included here, i.e., MAC frame --> > 64/66bits. OK > Choosing of FlexE client for different MAC frame is not > needed. I don't understand you said above that "... once a MAC frame is formed, the encapsulation of this MAC frame to FlexE client is in one single pipeline", isn't an implicit choice of a FlexE client?? /Loa > I copied the figure 82-1 of IEEE 802.3 below to describe this. > MAC --> RS --> XLGMII/CGMII --> FlexE client. > > > In addition, I took a look at G.8023 published by ITU-T 11/15, and found > some description we need to think about when updating the draft. > > (1), clause 7, the FlexE model is not intended to imply that connection > functions exist for the FlexE and FlexEC information. > > (2), clause 8.1, As there is no overhead defined for monitoring a FlexE > client, this is a null function (i.e., FlexE client trail termination > function) > > > If I understand about this two sentences correctly, I think there is no > need to use control plane method to configure FlexE client. For FlexE > group, maybe what we need is just to create such a group. Discussions > are needed. > > > > Thanks > > Qilei > > > > > 原始邮件 > *发件人：*LoaAndersson > *收件人：*牛小兵10019881; > *抄送人：*ccamp@ietf.org ;ccamp-chairs@tools.ietf.org > ; > *日 期 ：*2019年01月14日 15:34 > *主 题 ：**Re: [CCAMP] Fwd: New Version Notification > fordraft-izh-ccamp-flexe-fwk-06.txt* > Xiaobing, > > The way I read you is that if I send an Ethernet frame over a FlexE > interface all the bits/bytes of this frame will be transmitted on the > same FlexE Client, right? > > What I tried to ask repeatedly is that if I have e.g. three Ethernet > frames, and can identify frame 1 and 3 as belonging to the same flow, > while frame does not belong to that same flow, can I make sure that: > > Frame 1 is transmitted over FlexE CLient-1 > Frame 2 is not transmitted over FlexE Client-1 > Frame 3 is transmitted over FlexE CLient-1 > > Is that possible???? > > > /Loa > > On 2019-01-11 14:11, niu.xiaobing@zte.com.cn wrote: > > hi, > > > > Sorry for the late reply. > > > >  From my understanding, when an Ethernet frame is to be transmitted over > > Ethernet PHY (or FlexE group), it will be encapsultated and adapted > > through RS and xMII into the FlexE client. It looks like a one-to-one > > relationship between an Ethernet frame and the flexe client. > > > > Refere to clause 5.2 'Relationship to IEEE 802.3 Stack' in FlexE 2.0 IA > > for more information: > > > > The FlexE Shim can be envisioned as being in the middle of the PCS in > > the 100GBASE-R stack as illustrated in [802.3] Figure 80-1 or in the > > 200GBASE-R or > > > > 400GBASE-R stack as illustrated in [802.3bs] Figure 116-1. Each FlexE > > Client has its own separate MAC, Reconciliation Sublayer, and xMII above > > the FlexE Shim which > > > > operate at the FlexE Client rate. The layers below the PCS (100GBASE-R > > PMA, optional FEC, PMD) are used intact as specified for Ethernet. > > > > > > BRs, > > > > 牛小兵     Xiaobing NIU > > > > E: niu.xiaobing@zte.com.cn  > > > > www.zte.com.cn  > > > > 原始邮件 > > *发件人：*LoaAndersson  > > *收件人：*牛小兵10019881; > > *抄送人：*ccamp@ietf.org ;ccamp-chairs@tools.ietf.org > > ; > > *日 期 ：*2018年12月27日 14:28 > > *主 题 ：**Re:  [CCAMP] Fwd: New Version Notification > > fordraft-izh-ccamp-flexe-fwk-06.txt* > > Xiaobing, > > > > Let me see if I understand you correctly. > > > > Let us assume that we have a 100GE PHY with on 100GE FlexE Group > > and that FlexE Group have 5 FlexE Clients. > > > > If an Ethernet frame is to be transmitted over the FlexE Group, are you > > saying that it is arbitrary which FlexE Client it will be transmitted > > over?? > > > > /Loa > > > > > > On 2018-12-25 14:41, niu.xiaobing@zte.com.cn wrote: > >  > hi Loa, > >  > > >  > Sorry for the late reply. > >  > > >  > In Fig2, 3,  and  4 of FlexE 2.0 IA, 'control' model works in this way, > >  > > >  > The control function manages which calendar slots each FlexE Client is > >  > inserted into > >  > > >  > and inserts the FlexE overhead on each FlexE PHY in the transmit direction. > >  > > >  > It does not relate to the mapping from 'the correct > >  > Ethernet Frame to the correct FlexE Client' in the FlexE Mux. > >  > > >  > I'm not sure if I understand your question correctly. > >  > > >  > > >  > Happy Christmas! > >  > > >  > > >  > 牛小兵     Xiaobing NIU > >  > > >  > 标准预研工程师   Standard Engineer > >  > > >  > 算法标准部/有线研究院/有线产品经营部   Algorithm Standard Department/ > >  > Wireline Product R&D Institute > >  > > >  > ** > >  > > >  > 中兴通讯股份有限公司   ZTE Corporation > >  > > >  > 北京市朝阳区安定路5号院8号外运大厦A座4楼, 邮编: 100029 > >  > > >  > 4/F, Sinotrans Tower A, Building 8, No.5 Anding Road, Chaoyang > >  > District,Beijing, P.R.China, > >  > > >  > T: +86 755 xxxxxxxx M: +86 13439566425  > >  > > >  > E: niu.xiaobing@zte.com.cn  > >  > > >  > www.zte.com.cn  > >  > > >  > > >  > *发件人：*LoaAndersson  > >  > *收件人：*牛小兵10019881; > >  > *抄送人：*ccamp@ietf.org ;ccamp-chairs@tools.ietf.org > >  > ; > >  > *日 期 ：*2018年12月19日 14:37 > >  > *主 题 ：**Re:  [CCAMP] Fwd: New Version Notification > >  > fordraft-izh-ccamp-flexe-fwk-06.txt* > >  > > >  > > >  > On 2018-12-18 17:52, niu.xiaobing@zte.com.cn wrote: > >  >  > hi, Loa > >  > > >  >  > >  >  > > >  >  > Once a FlexE group is created, it can be seen as one huge PCS module > >  >  > created as well. Transport of different FlexE client information streams > >  >  > over the FlexE group is decided by the data plane "control" module. > >  > > >  > What info does the data plane "control" module use to map the correct > >  > Ethernet Frame to the correct FlexE Client? > >  > > >  > /Loa > >  > > >  >  > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > -- > >  > > >  > > >  > Loa Andersson                        email: loa@pi.nu > >  > Senior MPLS Expert > >  > Bronze Dragon Consulting             phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > >  > > >  > > > > > -- > > > > > > Loa Andersson                        email: loa@pi.nu > > Senior MPLS Expert > > Bronze Dragon Consulting             phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > > > > > > -- > > > Loa Andersson                        email: loa@pi.nu > Senior MPLS Expert > Bronze Dragon Consulting             phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > -- Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu Senior MPLS Expert Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Sun Jan 20 20:14:58 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E91F12D84C for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2019 20:14:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xx2xU7nRQTWG for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2019 20:14:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E26812D4E8 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2019 20:14:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.255.249.5] (unknown [176.126.84.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1BDB2180158C; Mon, 21 Jan 2019 05:14:51 +0100 (CET) To: wang.qilei@zte.com.cn, niu.xiaobing@zte.com.cn Cc: ccamp@ietf.org, ccamp-chairs@tools.ietf.org References: <201901201107461619529@zte.com.cn> From: Loa Andersson Message-ID: <2c864f1f-6f08-cc7b-33a3-7f9b78660147@pi.nu> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 12:14:48 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201901201107461619529@zte.com.cn> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Fwd: New Version Notification fordraft-izh-ccamp-flexe-fwk-06.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 04:14:57 -0000 Qilei, One more question in line. On 2019-01-20 11:07, wang.qilei@zte.com.cn wrote: > Hi Loa, > > > I think the answer to your second question is yes. > > > If I understand Xiaobing correctly, I think he wanted to answer your > question in another way. That is once a MAC frame is formed, the > encapsulation of this MAC frame to FlexE client is in one single > pipeline. Transcoding work is mainly included here, i.e., MAC frame --> > 64/66bits. Choosing of FlexE client for different MAC frame is not > needed. I copied the figure 82-1 of IEEE 802.3 below to describe this. > MAC --> RS --> XLGMII/CGMII --> FlexE client. > > > In addition, I took a look at G.8023 published by ITU-T 11/15, and found > some description we need to think about when updating the draft. > > (1), clause 7, the FlexE model is not intended to imply that connection > functions exist for the FlexE and FlexEC information. > > (2), clause 8.1, As there is no overhead defined for monitoring a FlexE > client, this is a null function (i.e., FlexE client trail termination > function) > > > If I understand about this two sentences correctly, I think there is no > need to use control plane method to configure FlexE client. For FlexE > group, maybe what we need is just to create such a group. Discussions > are needed. I would say the opposite - the control plane is less useful for the FlexE Groups, while it is much more useful for FlexE Client. On thought, if we have a control plane for FlexE Group, where is the decision taken how may FlexE Clients you need for that FlexE Group? /Loa > > > > Thanks > > Qilei > > > > > 原始邮件 > *发件人：*LoaAndersson > *收件人：*牛小兵10019881; > *抄送人：*ccamp@ietf.org ;ccamp-chairs@tools.ietf.org > ; > *日 期 ：*2019年01月14日 15:34 > *主 题 ：**Re: [CCAMP] Fwd: New Version Notification > fordraft-izh-ccamp-flexe-fwk-06.txt* > Xiaobing, > > The way I read you is that if I send an Ethernet frame over a FlexE > interface all the bits/bytes of this frame will be transmitted on the > same FlexE Client, right? > > What I tried to ask repeatedly is that if I have e.g. three Ethernet > frames, and can identify frame 1 and 3 as belonging to the same flow, > while frame does not belong to that same flow, can I make sure that: > > Frame 1 is transmitted over FlexE CLient-1 > Frame 2 is not transmitted over FlexE Client-1 > Frame 3 is transmitted over FlexE CLient-1 > > Is that possible???? > > > /Loa > > On 2019-01-11 14:11, niu.xiaobing@zte.com.cn wrote: > > hi, > > > > Sorry for the late reply. > > > >  From my understanding, when an Ethernet frame is to be transmitted over > > Ethernet PHY (or FlexE group), it will be encapsultated and adapted > > through RS and xMII into the FlexE client. It looks like a one-to-one > > relationship between an Ethernet frame and the flexe client. > > > > Refere to clause 5.2 'Relationship to IEEE 802.3 Stack' in FlexE 2.0 IA > > for more information: > > > > The FlexE Shim can be envisioned as being in the middle of the PCS in > > the 100GBASE-R stack as illustrated in [802.3] Figure 80-1 or in the > > 200GBASE-R or > > > > 400GBASE-R stack as illustrated in [802.3bs] Figure 116-1. Each FlexE > > Client has its own separate MAC, Reconciliation Sublayer, and xMII above > > the FlexE Shim which > > > > operate at the FlexE Client rate. The layers below the PCS (100GBASE-R > > PMA, optional FEC, PMD) are used intact as specified for Ethernet. > > > > > > BRs, > > > > 牛小兵     Xiaobing NIU > > > > E: niu.xiaobing@zte.com.cn  > > > > www.zte.com.cn  > > > > 原始邮件 > > *发件人：*LoaAndersson  > > *收件人：*牛小兵10019881; > > *抄送人：*ccamp@ietf.org ;ccamp-chairs@tools.ietf.org > > ; > > *日 期 ：*2018年12月27日 14:28 > > *主 题 ：**Re:  [CCAMP] Fwd: New Version Notification > > fordraft-izh-ccamp-flexe-fwk-06.txt* > > Xiaobing, > > > > Let me see if I understand you correctly. > > > > Let us assume that we have a 100GE PHY with on 100GE FlexE Group > > and that FlexE Group have 5 FlexE Clients. > > > > If an Ethernet frame is to be transmitted over the FlexE Group, are you > > saying that it is arbitrary which FlexE Client it will be transmitted > > over?? > > > > /Loa > > > > > > On 2018-12-25 14:41, niu.xiaobing@zte.com.cn wrote: > >  > hi Loa, > >  > > >  > Sorry for the late reply. > >  > > >  > In Fig2, 3,  and  4 of FlexE 2.0 IA, 'control' model works in this way, > >  > > >  > The control function manages which calendar slots each FlexE Client is > >  > inserted into > >  > > >  > and inserts the FlexE overhead on each FlexE PHY in the transmit direction. > >  > > >  > It does not relate to the mapping from 'the correct > >  > Ethernet Frame to the correct FlexE Client' in the FlexE Mux. > >  > > >  > I'm not sure if I understand your question correctly. > >  > > >  > > >  > Happy Christmas! > >  > > >  > > >  > 牛小兵     Xiaobing NIU > >  > > >  > 标准预研工程师   Standard Engineer > >  > > >  > 算法标准部/有线研究院/有线产品经营部   Algorithm Standard Department/ > >  > Wireline Product R&D Institute > >  > > >  > ** > >  > > >  > 中兴通讯股份有限公司   ZTE Corporation > >  > > >  > 北京市朝阳区安定路5号院8号外运大厦A座4楼, 邮编: 100029 > >  > > >  > 4/F, Sinotrans Tower A, Building 8, No.5 Anding Road, Chaoyang > >  > District,Beijing, P.R.China, > >  > > >  > T: +86 755 xxxxxxxx M: +86 13439566425  > >  > > >  > E: niu.xiaobing@zte.com.cn  > >  > > >  > www.zte.com.cn  > >  > > >  > > >  > *发件人：*LoaAndersson  > >  > *收件人：*牛小兵10019881; > >  > *抄送人：*ccamp@ietf.org ;ccamp-chairs@tools.ietf.org > >  > ; > >  > *日 期 ：*2018年12月19日 14:37 > >  > *主 题 ：**Re:  [CCAMP] Fwd: New Version Notification > >  > fordraft-izh-ccamp-flexe-fwk-06.txt* > >  > > >  > > >  > On 2018-12-18 17:52, niu.xiaobing@zte.com.cn wrote: > >  >  > hi, Loa > >  > > >  >  > >  >  > > >  >  > Once a FlexE group is created, it can be seen as one huge PCS module > >  >  > created as well. Transport of different FlexE client information streams > >  >  > over the FlexE group is decided by the data plane "control" module. > >  > > >  > What info does the data plane "control" module use to map the correct > >  > Ethernet Frame to the correct FlexE Client? 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Thanks, - Xufeng On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 5:39 AM Daniele Ceccarelli < daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com> wrote: > Authors, Contributors, CCAMP, > > > > Since it is becoming very difficult to collect IPR declarations from all > the authors of the drafts let=E2=80=99s try with a new one. > > This time we=E2=80=99re talking about the adoption of > draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 as a working group document. > > > > > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above? > > > > Please state either: > > "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft" > > or > > "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft" > > > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see > RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? > > If yes to the above, please state either: > > > > "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules" > > or > > "No, the IPR has not been disclosed" > > > > If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think > appropriate. 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For more > information, please see the RFCs listed above and > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty. > > > > Thank you, > > Daniele & Fatai > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > --0000000000001b8797057ff9a231 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
No, I'm not aware of any IPR= that applies to this draft.

Thanks,
- Xufeng

On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 5:39 AM Daniele Cecc= arelli <daniele.cecca= relli@ericsson.com> wrote:

Authors, Contributors, CCAMP,

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Since it is becoming very difficult to collect I= PR declarations from all the authors of the drafts let=E2=80=99s try with a= new one.

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We managed to complete at least one of the IPR polling = procedures started.

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Please send email to the list indicating = "yes/support" or "no/do not support" and a = motivation for  your reply, mandatory for the "not = support" and nice to have for the = "support".

 

The polling will end on Tuesday February = 5th.

 

Thanks,

Daniele & Fatai

 

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ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E87D130F4C; Tue, 22 Jan 2019 09:21:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM=0.001, HK_RANDOM_FROM=0.999, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DNK07IQ-0rph; Tue, 22 Jan 2019 09:21:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D0BE130F3A; Tue, 22 Jan 2019 09:21:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from lhreml709-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown 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boundary="_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173D0C7601sjceml521mbxchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 17:21:48 -0000 --_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173D0C7601sjceml521mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Yes/support. Thanks. Young From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Daniele Ceccarelli Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 10:37 AM To: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) Cc: ccamp-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 Working group, We managed to complete at least one of the IPR polling procedures started. This starts a two weeks poll on making draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 a CC= AMP working group document. Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not suppor= t" and a motivation for your reply, mandatory for the "not support" and ni= ce to have for the "support". The polling will end on Tuesday February 5th. Thanks, Daniele & Fatai --_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173D0C7601sjceml521mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi, =

 

Yes/support.

 

Thanks.

Young

 

From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] <= b>On Behalf Of Daniele Ceccarelli
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 10:37 AM
To: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) <ccamp@ietf.org>
Cc: ccamp-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02<= o:p>

 

Working group,

 

We managed to complete at least one of the IPR po= lling procedures started.

This starts a two weeks poll on making  d= raft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 a CCAMP working group document.

Please send email to the list indicating "ye= s/support" or "no/do not support" and a motivation for = your reply, mandatory for the "not support" and nice to have for= the "support".

 

The polling will end on Tuesday February 5th.

 

Thanks,

Daniele & Fatai<= /span>

=  

--_000_7AEB3D6833318045B4AE71C2C87E8E173D0C7601sjceml521mbxchi_-- From nobody Tue Jan 22 09:28:19 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D0B0130F4C; Tue, 22 Jan 2019 09:28:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kcUmqREHoGTx; Tue, 22 Jan 2019 09:28:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F19C130F3A; Tue, 22 Jan 2019 09:28:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from LHREML710-CAH.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.107]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 6CA8C8840782AD4CD6CD; Tue, 22 Jan 2019 17:28:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from SJCEML703-CHM.china.huawei.com (10.208.112.39) by LHREML710-CAH.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.33) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.408.0; Tue, 22 Jan 2019 17:28:12 +0000 Received: from SJCEML521-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.1.96]) by SJCEML703-CHM.china.huawei.com ([169.254.5.115]) with mapi id 14.03.0415.000; Tue, 22 Jan 2019 09:28:09 -0800 From: "Aihuaguo (Aihua Guo, CRC)" To: Daniele Ceccarelli , "CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org)" CC: "ccamp-chairs@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: WG adoption poll on draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 Thread-Index: AdSycKXWSuspKObbTUWqHcvCeiU4vwABw4bg Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 17:28:09 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.47.135.187] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_AEF103518CA8F84D97E39F644BC803CB28A71161sjceml521mbxchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 17:28:18 -0000 --_000_AEF103518CA8F84D97E39F644BC803CB28A71161sjceml521mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes/support (as co-author). Thanks, Aihua From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Daniele Ceccarelli Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 11:37 AM To: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) Cc: ccamp-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 Working group, We managed to complete at least one of the IPR polling procedures started. This starts a two weeks poll on making draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 a CC= AMP working group document. Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not suppor= t" and a motivation for your reply, mandatory for the "not support" and ni= ce to have for the "support". The polling will end on Tuesday February 5th. Thanks, Daniele & Fatai --_000_AEF103518CA8F84D97E39F644BC803CB28A71161sjceml521mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes/sup= port (as co-author).

 

Thanks,

Aihua

 

From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Daniele Ceccarelli
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 11:37 AM
To: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) <ccamp@ietf.org>
Cc: ccamp-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02<= o:p>

 

Working group,

 

We managed to complete at le= ast one of the IPR polling procedures started.

This starts a two weeks poll= on making  draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 a CCAMP working group document.<= /o:p>

Please send email to the lis= t indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support" and a= motivation for  your reply, mandatory for the "not support"= and nice to have for the "support".

 

The polling will end on T= uesday February 5th.

 

Thanks,

Daniele & Fatai<= /span>

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--_000_AEF103518CA8F84D97E39F644BC803CB28A71161sjceml521mbxchi_-- From nobody Tue Jan 22 13:26:57 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56FC213114E; Tue, 22 Jan 2019 13:26:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K9DOYzI7ZIYk; Tue, 22 Jan 2019 13:26:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65F59131131; Tue, 22 Jan 2019 13:26:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from LHREML711-CAH.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.106]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 100684BBFB686BFFA222; Tue, 22 Jan 2019 21:26:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from DGGEMM405-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.3.20.213) by LHREML711-CAH.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.34) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.408.0; Tue, 22 Jan 2019 21:26:45 +0000 Received: from DGGEMM528-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.8.130]) by DGGEMM405-HUB.china.huawei.com ([10.3.20.213]) with mapi id 14.03.0415.000; Wed, 23 Jan 2019 05:26:34 +0800 From: "Yemin (Amy)" To: Daniele Ceccarelli , "CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org)" CC: "ccamp-chairs@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: WG adoption poll on draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 Thread-Index: AdSycKXWSuspKObbTUWqHcvCeiU4vwAKGxyK Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 21:26:34 +0000 Message-ID: <9C5FD3EFA72E1740A3D41BADDE0B461FCFB125B5@DGGEMM528-MBX.china.huawei.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.200.66.34] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_9C5FD3EFA72E1740A3D41BADDE0B461FCFB125B5DGGEMM528MBXchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 21:26:55 -0000 --_000_9C5FD3EFA72E1740A3D41BADDE0B461FCFB125B5DGGEMM528MBXchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 WWVzL3N1cHBvcnQgKGFzIGNvLWF1dGhvcikuDQoNCkJSLA0KQW15DQpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXw0Kt6K8/sjLOiBDQ0FNUCBbY2NhbXAtYm91bmNlc0BpZXRmLm9yZ10g tPqx7SBEYW5pZWxlIENlY2NhcmVsbGkgW2RhbmllbGUuY2VjY2FyZWxsaUBlcmljc3Nvbi5jb21d DQq3osvNyrG85DogMjAxOcTqMdTCMjPI1SAwOjM2DQrK1bz+yMs6IENDQU1QIChjY2FtcEBpZXRm Lm9yZykNCrOty806IGNjYW1wLWNoYWlyc0BpZXRmLm9yZw0K1vfM4jogW0NDQU1QXSBXRyBhZG9w dGlvbiBwb2xsIG9uIGRyYWZ0LXllLWNjYW1wLW13LXRvcG8teWFuZy0wMg0KDQoNCldvcmtpbmcg Z3JvdXAsDQoNCg0KDQpXZSBtYW5hZ2VkIHRvIGNvbXBsZXRlIGF0IGxlYXN0IG9uZSBvZiB0aGUg SVBSIHBvbGxpbmcgcHJvY2VkdXJlcyBzdGFydGVkLg0KDQpUaGlzIHN0YXJ0cyBhIHR3byB3ZWVr cyBwb2xsIG9uIG1ha2luZyAgZHJhZnQteWUtY2NhbXAtbXctdG9wby15YW5nLTAyIGEgQ0NBTVAg d29ya2luZyBncm91cCBkb2N1bWVudC4NCg0KUGxlYXNlIHNlbmQgZW1haWwgdG8gdGhlIGxpc3Qg aW5kaWNhdGluZyAieWVzL3N1cHBvcnQiIG9yICJuby9kbyBub3Qgc3VwcG9ydCIgYW5kIGEgbW90 aXZhdGlvbiBmb3IgIHlvdXIgcmVwbHksIG1hbmRhdG9yeSBmb3IgdGhlICJub3Qgc3VwcG9ydCIg YW5kIG5pY2UgdG8gaGF2ZSBmb3IgdGhlICJzdXBwb3J0Ii4NCg0KDQoNClRoZSBwb2xsaW5nIHdp bGwgZW5kIG9uIFR1ZXNkYXkgRmVicnVhcnkgNXRoLg0KDQoNCg0KVGhhbmtzLA0KDQpEYW5pZWxl ICYgRmF0YWkNCg0K --_000_9C5FD3EFA72E1740A3D41BADDE0B461FCFB125B5DGGEMM528MBXchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes/support (as co-author).

BR,
Amy
=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: CCAMP [ccamp-bounces@= ietf.org] =B4=FA=B1=ED Daniele Ceccarelli [daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com]=
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=B3=AD=CB=CD: ccamp-chairs@ietf.org
=D6=F7=CC=E2: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yan= g-02

Working group,

 

We managed to complete at le= ast one of the IPR polling procedures started.

This starts a two weeks poll= on making  draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 a CCAMP working group document.

Please send email to the lis= t indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support" and a= motivation for  your reply, mandatory for the "not support"= and nice to have for the "support".

 

The polling will end on T= uesday February 5th.

 

Thanks,

Daniele & Fatai

 

--_000_9C5FD3EFA72E1740A3D41BADDE0B461FCFB125B5DGGEMM528MBXchi_-- From nobody Tue Jan 22 22:56:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E68130E25; Tue, 22 Jan 2019 22:56:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id njuVqdLRfc3w; Tue, 22 Jan 2019 22:56:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [185.176.76.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DC3D1294D0; Tue, 22 Jan 2019 22:56:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from LHREML713-CAH.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.107]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 551A8314A98A31EAD8C5; Wed, 23 Jan 2019 06:55:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML504-MBS.china.huawei.com ([10.201.109.59]) by LHREML713-CAH.china.huawei.com ([10.201.108.36]) with mapi id 14.03.0415.000; Wed, 23 Jan 2019 06:55:56 +0000 From: Italo Busi To: Daniele Ceccarelli , "CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org)" CC: "ccamp-chairs@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 Thread-Index: AQHUsncBQb0vFKR3pUK50JAXSqw34aW8bFgw Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 06:55:56 +0000 Message-ID: <91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B276A5BDE@lhreml504-mbs> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: it-IT, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.45.148.191] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B276A5BDElhreml504mbs_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 06:56:02 -0000 --_000_91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B276A5BDElhreml504mbs_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes/support Italo (as contributor) From: Daniele Ceccarelli [mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com] Sent: mercoled=EC 23 gennaio 2019 00:37 To: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) Cc: ccamp-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 Working group, We managed to complete at least one of the IPR polling procedures started. This starts a two weeks poll on making draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 a CC= AMP working group document. Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not suppor= t" and a motivation for your reply, mandatory for the "not support" and ni= ce to have for the "support". The polling will end on Tuesday February 5th. Thanks, Daniele & Fatai --_000_91E3A1BD737FDF4FA14118387FF6766B276A5BDElhreml504mbs_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes/support

 

Italo (as contributor)

 

From:<= /span> Daniele Ceccarelli [m= ailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com]
Sent: mercoled=EC 23 gennaio 2019 00:37
To: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) <ccamp@ietf.org>
Cc: ccamp-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02<= o:p>

 

Working group,

 

We managed to complete at least one of the IPR po= lling procedures started.

This starts a two weeks poll on making  d= raft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 a CCAMP working group document.

Please send email to the list indicating "ye= s/support" or "no/do not support" and a motivation for = your reply, mandatory for the "not support" and nice to have for= the "support".

 

The polling will end on Tuesday February 5th.

 

Thanks,

Daniele & Fatai<= /span>

=  

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([169.254.7.25]) by dggeml424-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.1.199.41]) with mapi id 14.03.0415.000; Wed, 23 Jan 2019 15:14:03 +0800 From: Fatai Zhang To: "Manoj Manoj Kumar (manojk2)" , "'wang.qilei@zte.com.cn'" , "'rvaliveti@infinera.com'" , "Zhenghaomian (Zhenghaomian, Optical &Microwave Technology Research Dept)" , "'huubatwork@gmail.com'" , "'sergio.belotti@nokia.com'" , "'IHussain@infinera.com'" , "'daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com'" , "'rrao@infinera.com'" , Italo Busi , "'Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart)'" , "Zafar Ali (zali)" , "'d.king@lancaster.ac.uk'" , "Antonello Bonfanti (abonfant)" , "'anadahal@cisco.com'" CC: 'Daniele Ceccarelli' , "ccamp@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: IPR Polling on [draft-merge-ccamp-gmpls-otn-b100g-applicability-00] Thread-Index: AdSZmgAgg/lYkjdgS3S4vuzTMJLxQAUnInrgASCZCoAADCLEUAAAXyog Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 07:14:02 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 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X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DB7PR07MB5324 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 10:58:26 -0000 Uh huh; a YANG module from the Routing Area so you know what happens next! Requirements Language lacks reference RFC8174 Copyright (c) 2018 (I know, the I-D is October 22, 2018:-) This document defines a YANG data model lacks a reference for YANG language RFC 3.1. The YANG Tree no reference for the YANG Tree diagram RFC YANG Module YANG 'file' lacks date YANG import statements lack references which then need adding to the I-D References and which then need a mention in the body of the I-D lest you get a warning for an unused reference reference "draft-ietf-netmod-schema-mount: YANG Schema Mount"; wrong format - you need something like "RFC YYYY: YANG Schema Mount"; Note to RFC Editor please replace YYYY with the number assigned to draft-ietf-netmod-schema-mount ID-draft authors: hopefully this will move beyond the status of ID:-) no copyright statement list mw-link-availability{ key "availability"; leaf availability { type decimal64 { interesting choice of key type - I am unclear how this will be used - could do with a more expansiive description augment "/nw:networks/nw:network/nw:network-types/" + "tet:te-topology" { container mw-topology { presence "indicates a topology type of microwave."; no YANG 'when' and it is a presence container so will all boxes with this YANG module have mw-topology for all te-topology? IANA has assigned It is more common to say IANA is asked to assign and let them make the change when they have done what you ask 7.2. Informative References [I-D.ietf-netmod-schema-mount] [I-D.ietf-teas-yang-te-topo] since you are importing from these, I believe that they have to be Normative References. Tom Petch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniele Ceccarelli" To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 4:36 PM > Working group, > > > > We managed to complete at least one of the IPR polling procedures started. > > This starts a two weeks poll on making draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 a > CCAMP working group document. > > Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not > support" and a motivation for your reply, mandatory for the "not support" > and nice to have for the "support". > > > > The polling will end on Tuesday February 5th. > > > > Thanks, > > Daniele & Fatai > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > From nobody Wed Jan 23 08:52:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABAD0130EA7; 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Yes/support (as co-author)=

 

Regards, Daniela

 

From: CCAMP <ccamp-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Daniele Ceccarelli
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 5:37 PM
To: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) <ccamp@ietf.org>
Cc: ccamp-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02<= o:p>

 

Working group,

 

We managed to complete at le= ast one of the IPR polling procedures started.

This starts a two weeks poll= on making  draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 a CCAMP working group document.<= /o:p>

Please send email to the lis= t indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support" and a= motivation for  your reply, mandatory for the "not support"= and nice to have for the "support".

 

The polling will end on T= uesday February 5th.

 

Thanks,

Daniele & Fatai

 <= /o:p>

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=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] =B4=FA=B1=ED Daniele Ceccarelli =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2019= =C4=EA1=D4= =C223=C8=D5 0:37
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=D6=F7=CC=E2: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02

 

Working group,

 

We managed to complete at le= ast one of the IPR polling procedures started.

This starts a two weeks poll= on making  draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 a CCAMP working group document.<= /o:p>

Please send email to the lis= t indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support" and a= motivation for  your reply, mandatory for the "not support"= and nice to have for the "support".

 

The polling will end on T= uesday February 5th.

 

Thanks,

Daniele & Fatai<= /span>

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--_000_735916399E11684EAF4EB4FB376B71955C27F97EDGGEMA503MBXchi_-- From nobody Wed Jan 23 20:37:12 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347DD1310B0; Wed, 23 Jan 2019 20:37:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Y8Lq4nQI6Oum; Wed, 23 Jan 2019 20:37:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta5.iomartmail.com (mta5.iomartmail.com [62.128.193.155]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18FB71310C4; Wed, 23 Jan 2019 20:37:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from vs1.iomartmail.com (vs1.iomartmail.com [10.12.10.121]) by mta5.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x0O4b7Pp023104; Thu, 24 Jan 2019 04:37:07 GMT Received: from vs1.iomartmail.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSVA (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89A52203B; Thu, 24 Jan 2019 04:37:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (unknown [10.12.10.248]) by vs1.iomartmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A36B42203A; Thu, 24 Jan 2019 04:37:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LAPTOPK7AS653V ([119.145.110.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x0O4b2eR020736 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 24 Jan 2019 04:37:05 GMT Reply-To: From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Cc: References: <022401d4b30a$6b0c4c80$4001a8c0@gateway.2wire.net> In-Reply-To: <022401d4b30a$6b0c4c80$4001a8c0@gateway.2wire.net> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2019 04:37:00 -0000 Organization: Old Dog Consulting Message-ID: <009f01d4b39e$74e3ae30$5eab0a90$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQGSarCLfrEQ2j+vT60YKipR6jXicgGCwlh5pjZQN7A= Content-Language: en-gb X-Originating-IP: 119.145.110.66 X-Thinkmail-Auth: adrian@olddog.co.uk X-TM-AS-GCONF: 00 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.0.1013-24386.005 X-TM-AS-Result: No--17.694-10.0-31-10 X-imss-scan-details: No--17.694-10.0-31-10 X-TMASE-Version: IMSVA-9.0.0.1623-8.2.1013-24386.005 X-TMASE-Result: 10--17.694500-10.000000 X-TMASE-MatchedRID: cxtZ8fwm3r/xIbpQ8BhdbHBRIrj8R47FLAnNohUyMa3sejgcLHc4iHYX jTxEWkwABpdN7T1aLFlvU6V0kMxo7W7tzvY/VhuuW7gz/Gbgpl4ovDLm5sZgFC62hjZS0WoY8cv x+QRsq+KGGXuUR3ZPz8qg3TZh3YMBcrNFAML6fvxU/2M0RAfTirPksiHb4g58M7kEKMj4gjnC1b k83evtlahRA8TPpTInwIHmivjNL+KEuFa78Ozbb5D6BbDN9+jOCt4iaV1DkEPmdb+WuOoLvF721 f1Z1L9KVZOEYEsHFBvmOsLOWSTGS/SEN1YC80+TxOn/W/avbxNG/JUd7BvSQvPSh/c6gMpwjiZq RZIhdsP6CTrJ/RQ8aL2/0v4oVoy5NyMclfk9Me7AJnGRMfFxye8lj2kHOCDUNOnYXKcDRxAlyzT MMafnGH7hwk97zCJ1gohrOLjk0LaZXRFMm5LTfKmukiZOfPi21kqyrcMalqW0Vg+MnSE2GGLtbX vEizih1zuuwHXfRfKWJcbpNaIEAE6cZmu8CZmKHPCema1j/6tkbdIIs/tC0psoi2XrUn/JyeMtM D9QOgCk8oKXKhRLPP306Q4zhC4D3QfwsVk0Ubv+efAnnZBiL8z+Ba7+nv3u8ff8ZUeYzO0uXCpT IwKnv5ERoroTK5jK76TsVR87YB1+3BndfXUhXQ== X-TMASE-SNAP-Result: 1.821001.0001-0-1-12:0,22:0,33:0,34:0-0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2019 04:37:11 -0000 Yeah, Tom is right that the YANG model and document aren't perfect. But his review doesn't show up anything that (to my mind) wouldn't be fixed through normal WG process. I think that we need this little model to supplement the many other YANG models that are out there, and since MW falls in scope of CCAMP, this seems like the right place to do the work. "Adopt and polish" Adrian -----Original Message----- From: CCAMP On Behalf Of tom petch Sent: 23 January 2019 10:58 To: Daniele Ceccarelli ; ccamp@ietf.org Cc: ccamp-chairs@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 Uh huh; a YANG module from the Routing Area so you know what happens next! Requirements Language lacks reference RFC8174 Copyright (c) 2018 (I know, the I-D is October 22, 2018:-) This document defines a YANG data model lacks a reference for YANG language RFC 3.1. The YANG Tree no reference for the YANG Tree diagram RFC YANG Module YANG 'file' lacks date YANG import statements lack references which then need adding to the I-D References and which then need a mention in the body of the I-D lest you get a warning for an unused reference reference "draft-ietf-netmod-schema-mount: YANG Schema Mount"; wrong format - you need something like "RFC YYYY: YANG Schema Mount"; Note to RFC Editor please replace YYYY with the number assigned to draft-ietf-netmod-schema-mount ID-draft authors: hopefully this will move beyond the status of ID:-) no copyright statement list mw-link-availability{ key "availability"; leaf availability { type decimal64 { interesting choice of key type - I am unclear how this will be used - could do with a more expansiive description augment "/nw:networks/nw:network/nw:network-types/" + "tet:te-topology" { container mw-topology { presence "indicates a topology type of microwave."; no YANG 'when' and it is a presence container so will all boxes with this YANG module have mw-topology for all te-topology? IANA has assigned It is more common to say IANA is asked to assign and let them make the change when they have done what you ask 7.2. Informative References [I-D.ietf-netmod-schema-mount] [I-D.ietf-teas-yang-te-topo] since you are importing from these, I believe that they have to be Normative References. Tom Petch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniele Ceccarelli" To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 4:36 PM > Working group, > > > > We managed to complete at least one of the IPR polling procedures started. > > This starts a two weeks poll on making draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 a > CCAMP working group document. > > Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not > support" and a motivation for your reply, mandatory for the "not support" > and nice to have for the "support". > > > > The polling will end on Tuesday February 5th. > > > > Thanks, > > Daniele & Fatai > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp From nobody Wed Jan 23 21:38:42 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A021310D1; Wed, 23 Jan 2019 21:38:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5GCBN3u99YZA; Wed, 23 Jan 2019 21:38:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6ED311310CF; Wed, 23 Jan 2019 21:38:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.20] (unknown [119.94.174.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D32F7180158C; Thu, 24 Jan 2019 06:38:34 +0100 (CET) To: adrian@olddog.co.uk, ccamp@ietf.org Cc: ccamp-chairs@ietf.org References: <022401d4b30a$6b0c4c80$4001a8c0@gateway.2wire.net> <009f01d4b39e$74e3ae30$5eab0a90$@olddog.co.uk> From: Loa Andersson Message-ID: <2fbba322-5ad9-b76c-edde-36c81aa2d3cd@pi.nu> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2019 13:37:50 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <009f01d4b39e$74e3ae30$5eab0a90$@olddog.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2019 05:38:41 -0000 Working Group, Chairs I normally don't do +1, nut in this case it seems appropriate, Adrian said everything (and a bit) I wanted to say, so: +1 /Loa On 2019-01-24 12:37, Adrian Farrel wrote: > Yeah, Tom is right that the YANG model and document aren't perfect. > > But his review doesn't show up anything that (to my mind) wouldn't be fixed > through normal WG process. > > I think that we need this little model to supplement the many other YANG > models that are out there, and since MW falls in scope of CCAMP, this seems > like the right place to do the work. > > "Adopt and polish" > > Adrian > > -----Original Message----- > From: CCAMP On Behalf Of tom petch > Sent: 23 January 2019 10:58 > To: Daniele Ceccarelli ; ccamp@ietf.org > Cc: ccamp-chairs@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 > > Uh huh; a YANG module from the Routing Area so you know what happens > next! > > Requirements Language lacks reference RFC8174 > > Copyright (c) 2018 (I know, the I-D is October 22, 2018:-) > > This document defines a YANG data model > lacks a reference for YANG language RFC > > 3.1. The YANG Tree > no reference for the YANG Tree diagram RFC > > YANG Module > > YANG 'file' lacks date > > YANG import statements lack references which then need adding to the I-D > References and which then need a mention in the body of the I-D lest you > get a warning for an unused reference > > reference "draft-ietf-netmod-schema-mount: YANG Schema Mount"; > wrong format - you need something like > "RFC YYYY: YANG Schema Mount"; > Note to RFC Editor please replace YYYY with the number assigned to > draft-ietf-netmod-schema-mount > > ID-draft authors: > hopefully this will move beyond the status of ID:-) > > no copyright statement > > list mw-link-availability{ > key "availability"; > leaf availability { > type decimal64 { > > interesting choice of key type - I am unclear how this will be used - > could do with a more expansiive description > > augment "/nw:networks/nw:network/nw:network-types/" > + "tet:te-topology" { > container mw-topology { > presence "indicates a topology type of microwave."; > no YANG 'when' and it is a presence container so will all boxes with > this YANG module have mw-topology for all te-topology? > > IANA has assigned > It is more common to say > IANA is asked to assign > and let them make the change when they have done what you ask > > 7.2. Informative References > > [I-D.ietf-netmod-schema-mount] > [I-D.ietf-teas-yang-te-topo] > > since you are importing from these, I believe that they have to be > Normative References. > > Tom Petch > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniele Ceccarelli" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 4:36 PM > >> Working group, >> >> >> >> We managed to complete at least one of the IPR polling procedures > started. >> >> This starts a two weeks poll on making draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 > a >> CCAMP working group document. >> >> Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not >> support" and a motivation for your reply, mandatory for the "not > support" >> and nice to have for the "support". >> >> >> >> The polling will end on Tuesday February 5th. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Daniele & Fatai >> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -------- > > >> _______________________________________________ >> CCAMP mailing list >> CCAMP@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >> > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > -- Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu Senior MPLS Expert Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 From nobody Wed Jan 23 22:27:24 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE9D1310AC; 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Yes/Support.

 

Microwave is an important piece for tr= ansport technology, and the model/draft would be useful. I support the adop= tion of this draft to WG.

 

Best wishes,

Haomian

 

=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] =B4=FA=B1=ED Daniele Ceccarelli =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2019= =C4=EA1=D4= =C223=C8=D5 0:37
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) <ccamp@ietf.org>
=B3=AD=CB=CD: ccamp-chairs@ietf.org
=D6=F7=CC=E2: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02

 

Working group,

 

We managed to complete at le= ast one of the IPR polling procedures started.

This starts a two weeks poll= on making  draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 a CCAMP working group document.<= /o:p>

Please send email to the lis= t indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support" and a= motivation for  your reply, mandatory for the "not support"= and nice to have for the "support".

 

The polling will end on T= uesday February 5th.

 

Thanks,

Daniele & Fatai<= /span>

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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Tom, Thanks a lot for your thorough review. I would consider your comments blocking for a WG last call but not for a WG adoption...where the WG is supposed to start working on the document. Would you agree? Thanks, Daniele -----Original Message----- From: tom petch Sent: den 23 januari 2019 11:58 To: Daniele Ceccarelli ; ccamp@ietf.org Cc: ccamp-chairs@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 Uh huh; a YANG module from the Routing Area so you know what happens next! Requirements Language lacks reference RFC8174 Copyright (c) 2018 (I know, the I-D is October 22, 2018:-) This document defines a YANG data model lacks a reference for YANG language RFC 3.1. The YANG Tree no reference for the YANG Tree diagram RFC YANG Module YANG 'file' lacks date YANG import statements lack references which then need adding to the I-D References and which then need a mention in the body of the I-D lest you get a warning for an unused reference reference "draft-ietf-netmod-schema-mount: YANG Schema Mount"; wrong format - you need something like "RFC YYYY: YANG Schema Mount"; Note to RFC Editor please replace YYYY with the number assigned to draft-ietf-netmod-schema-mount ID-draft authors: hopefully this will move beyond the status of ID:-) no copyright statement list mw-link-availability{ key "availability"; leaf availability { type decimal64 { interesting choice of key type - I am unclear how this will be used - could do with a more expansiive description augment "/nw:networks/nw:network/nw:network-types/" + "tet:te-topology" { container mw-topology { presence "indicates a topology type of microwave."; no YANG 'when' and it is a presence container so will all boxes with this YANG module have mw-topology for all te-topology? IANA has assigned It is more common to say IANA is asked to assign and let them make the change when they have done what you ask 7.2. Informative References [I-D.ietf-netmod-schema-mount] [I-D.ietf-teas-yang-te-topo] since you are importing from these, I believe that they have to be Normative References. Tom Petch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniele Ceccarelli" To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 4:36 PM > Working group, > > > > We managed to complete at least one of the IPR polling procedures started. > > This starts a two weeks poll on making draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 a > CCAMP working group document. > > Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not > support" and a motivation for your reply, mandatory for the "not support" > and nice to have for the "support". > > > > The polling will end on Tuesday February 5th. > > > > Thanks, > > Daniele & Fatai > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01D4B3C4.1A49C0B0 Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; 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X-OriginatorOrg: btconnect.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 08bab8e7-b098-4e95-5c8e-08d682176ffc X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 24 Jan 2019 16:17:29.1550 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: cf8853ed-96e5-465b-9185-806bfe185e30 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: AM6PR07MB5670 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2019 16:17:34 -0000 Daniele Past experience tells me that the I-D will be adopted anyway so I do not say support or no! Past experience also tells me that this is a good moment to flag concerns, that they get a wider audience at this time (like all the authors instead of just one penholder) and are more likely to be addressed promptly, while the issues that I raise are still fresh in my mind; so this is a pattern of behaviour I am likely to persist in. I do find missing references troublesome; I am currently looking at a last call where the description does not make sense but know that I have read a understandable explanation in an MPLS RFC some years ago but how will I find it? Having references for anything makes it so much easier so I tend to ask for them early on, before I delve into the technicalities. In passing, a lawyer once advised me to be wary of a unanimous vote, that if everyone agreed then it was probably not a good idea, so I stopped being concerned about being in a minority of one! HTH Tom Petch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniele Ceccarelli" To: "tom petch" ; Cc: Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 8:06 AM > Hi Tom, > > Thanks a lot for your thorough review. I would consider your comments > blocking for a WG last call but not for a WG adoption...where the WG is > supposed to start working on the document. Would you agree? > > Thanks, > Daniele > > -----Original Message----- > From: tom petch > Sent: den 23 januari 2019 11:58 > > Uh huh; a YANG module from the Routing Area so you know what happens next! > > Requirements Language lacks reference RFC8174 > > Copyright (c) 2018 (I know, the I-D is October 22, 2018:-) > > This document defines a YANG data model > lacks a reference for YANG language RFC > > 3.1. The YANG Tree > no reference for the YANG Tree diagram RFC > > YANG Module > > YANG 'file' lacks date > > YANG import statements lack references which then need adding to the I-D > References and which then need a mention in the body of the I-D lest you get > a warning for an unused reference > > reference "draft-ietf-netmod-schema-mount: YANG Schema Mount"; wrong format > - you need something like > "RFC YYYY: YANG Schema Mount"; > Note to RFC Editor please replace YYYY with the number assigned to > draft-ietf-netmod-schema-mount > > ID-draft authors: > hopefully this will move beyond the status of ID:-) > > no copyright statement > > list mw-link-availability{ > key "availability"; > leaf availability { > type decimal64 { > > interesting choice of key type - I am unclear how this will be used - could > do with a more expansiive description > > augment "/nw:networks/nw:network/nw:network-types/" > + "tet:te-topology" { > container mw-topology { > presence "indicates a topology type of microwave."; no YANG 'when' > and it is a presence container so will all boxes with this YANG module have > mw-topology for all te-topology? > > IANA has assigned > It is more common to say > IANA is asked to assign > and let them make the change when they have done what you ask > > 7.2. Informative References > > [I-D.ietf-netmod-schema-mount] > [I-D.ietf-teas-yang-te-topo] > > since you are importing from these, I believe that they have to be Normative > References. > > Tom Petch > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniele Ceccarelli" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 4:36 PM > > From nobody Thu Jan 24 08:28:24 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A6AA131188 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2019 08:28:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.852 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.852 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-4.553, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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Sent: den 22 januari 2019 17:37
To: CCAMP (ccamp@ietf.org) <ccamp@ietf.org>
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Working group,

 

We managed to complete at le= ast one of the IPR polling procedures started.

This starts a two weeks poll= on making  draft-ye-ccamp-mw-topo-yang-02 a CCAMP working group document.<= /o:p>

Please send email to the lis= t indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support" and a= motivation for  your reply, mandatory for the "not support"= and nice to have for the "support".

 

The polling will end on T= uesday February 5th.

 

Thanks,

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autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ODZZ8ZV1rl3z for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2019 18:40:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from pipi.pi.nu (pipi.pi.nu [83.168.239.141]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71A19128D09 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2019 18:40:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.255.254.5] (unknown [176.126.84.105]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by pipi.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BC26818015D3; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 03:40:33 +0100 (CET) To: wang.qilei@zte.com.cn, niu.xiaobing@zte.com.cn Cc: ccamp@ietf.org, ccamp-chairs@tools.ietf.org References: <201901250902450065431@zte.com.cn> From: Loa Andersson Message-ID: <435f75df-5147-3dae-0ae2-d8cb98cb7f35@pi.nu> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 10:40:30 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201901250902450065431@zte.com.cn> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Fwd: New Version Notificationfordraft-izh-ccamp-flexe-fwk-06.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 02:40:42 -0000 Qilei, When I said "opposite" I didn't really mean to compare the usefulness of control plane established FlexE Group vs. FlexE Clients. Rather I intended to say that I think that the capability to establish FlexE Clients would be rather handy. After all I could imagine that the dynamics on the FlexE Client level is higher than at the FlexE Group level. I also notice that you avoided to respond to my real question. "...if we have a control plane for FlexE Group, where is the decision taken how many FlexE Clients you need for that FlexE Group?" /Loa On 2019-01-25 09:02, wang.qilei@zte.com.cn wrote: > Hi Loa, > > > Could you please give more explanation on why do you > think  control plane is less useful for the FlexE Groups, while it > is much more useful for FlexE Client?> > > If I remember correctly, I think recent discussion has already covered > following case: > > (1), MAC into FlexE client (we think FLEXE IA has already cover this.) > > (2), FlexE client into FlexE Group (Presentation during IETF Bangkok > meeting, we think FlexE IA also cover this too.) > > (3), Create of FlexE group > > I would suggest we focus on these three points to figure out what new > requirements are needed from control plane point of view. > > > With regard to your question, personally speaking, I would like to > explain as the allocation of FlexE client according to the request could > be dynamic, or it could be designated. In the latter case, only > bandwidth requirement is feasible. Some detailed explanation below: > > One FlexE client should use the same kind of ports (i.e., 10G, 40G.. > they should be internal ports) at both source and destination node to > ensure the correct encapsulation and recovery of the MAC frames. You > just need to tell the source node the resource you want for this flow. > The source node can decide which port it would like to use. When the > signal arrives at the other side, the destination node could get this > FlexE client information according to the overhead, and then it deliver > the stream to physical port with the same pattern. No need to explicitly > indicate the port chose, it's just a internal port. > > In addition, I think one of the import feature that may need to taken > into consideration is FlexE and FlexEC do not has routing capabilities. > Routing of the information usually is done after the L3 packets (an > example) are extracted out. Discssions are needed. > > > Thanks > > Qilei > > > 原始邮件 > *发件人：*LoaAndersson > *收件人：*王其磊10101413;牛小兵10019881; > *抄送人：*ccamp@ietf.org ;ccamp-chairs@tools.ietf.org > ; > *日 期 ：*2019年01月21日 12:14 > *主 题 ：**Re: [CCAMP] Fwd: New Version > Notificationfordraft-izh-ccamp-flexe-fwk-06.txt* > Qilei, > > One more question in line. > > On 2019-01-20 11:07, wang.qilei@zte.com.cn wrote: > > Hi Loa, > > > > > > I think the answer to your second question is yes. > > > > > > If I understand Xiaobing correctly, I think he wanted to answer your > > question in another way. That is once a MAC frame is formed, the > > encapsulation of this MAC frame to FlexE client is in one single > > pipeline. Transcoding work is mainly included here, i.e., MAC frame --> > > 64/66bits. Choosing of FlexE client for different MAC frame is not > > needed. I copied the figure 82-1 of IEEE 802.3 below to describe this. > > MAC --> RS --> XLGMII/CGMII --> FlexE client. > > > > > > In addition, I took a look at G.8023 published by ITU-T 11/15, and found > > some description we need to think about when updating the draft. > > > > (1), clause 7, the FlexE model is not intended to imply that connection > > functions exist for the FlexE and FlexEC information. > > > > (2), clause 8.1, As there is no overhead defined for monitoring a FlexE > > client, this is a null function (i.e., FlexE client trail termination > > function) > > > > > > If I understand about this two sentences correctly, I think there is no > > need to use control plane method to configure FlexE client. For FlexE > > group, maybe what we need is just to create such a group. Discussions > > are needed. > > I would say the opposite - the control plane is less useful for the > FlexE Groups, while it is much more useful for FlexE Client. > > On thought, if we have a control plane for FlexE Group, where is the > decision taken how may FlexE Clients you need for that FlexE Group? > > /Loa > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Qilei > > > > > > > > > > 原始邮件 > > *发件人：*LoaAndersson  > > *收件人：*牛小兵10019881; > > *抄送人：*ccamp@ietf.org ;ccamp-chairs@tools.ietf.org > > ; > > *日 期 ：*2019年01月14日 15:34 > > *主 题 ：**Re: [CCAMP] Fwd: New Version Notification > > fordraft-izh-ccamp-flexe-fwk-06.txt* > > Xiaobing, > > > > The way I read you is that if I send an Ethernet frame over a FlexE > > interface all the bits/bytes of this frame will be transmitted on the > > same FlexE Client, right? > > > > What I tried to ask repeatedly is that if I have e.g. three Ethernet > > frames, and can identify frame 1 and 3 as belonging to the same flow, > > while frame does not belong to that same flow, can I make sure that: > > > > Frame 1 is transmitted over FlexE CLient-1 > > Frame 2 is not transmitted over FlexE Client-1 > > Frame 3 is transmitted over FlexE CLient-1 > > > > Is that possible???? > > > > > > /Loa > > > > On 2019-01-11 14:11, niu.xiaobing@zte.com.cn wrote: > >  > hi, > >  > > >  > Sorry for the late reply. > >  > > >  >  From my understanding, when an Ethernet frame is to be transmitted over > >  > Ethernet PHY (or FlexE group), it will be encapsultated and adapted > >  > through RS and xMII into the FlexE client. It looks like a one-to-one > >  > relationship between an Ethernet frame and the flexe client. > >  > > >  > Refere to clause 5.2 'Relationship to IEEE 802.3 Stack' in FlexE 2.0 IA > >  > for more information: > >  > > >  > The FlexE Shim can be envisioned as being in the middle of the PCS in > >  > the 100GBASE-R stack as illustrated in [802.3] Figure 80-1 or in the > >  > 200GBASE-R or > >  > > >  > 400GBASE-R stack as illustrated in [802.3bs] Figure 116-1. Each FlexE > >  > Client has its own separate MAC, Reconciliation Sublayer, and xMII above > >  > the FlexE Shim which > >  > > >  > operate at the FlexE Client rate. The layers below the PCS (100GBASE-R > >  > PMA, optional FEC, PMD) are used intact as specified for Ethernet. > >  > > >  > > >  > BRs, > >  > > >  > 牛小兵     Xiaobing NIU > >  > > >  > E: niu.xiaobing@zte.com.cn  > >  > > >  > www.zte.com.cn  > >  > > >  > 原始邮件 > >  > *发件人：*LoaAndersson  > >  > *收件人：*牛小兵10019881; > >  > *抄送人：*ccamp@ietf.org ;ccamp-chairs@tools.ietf.org > >  > ; > >  > *日 期 ：*2018年12月27日 14:28 > >  > *主 题 ：**Re:  [CCAMP] Fwd: New Version Notification > >  > fordraft-izh-ccamp-flexe-fwk-06.txt* > >  > Xiaobing, > >  > > >  > Let me see if I understand you correctly. > >  > > >  > Let us assume that we have a 100GE PHY with on 100GE FlexE Group > >  > and that FlexE Group have 5 FlexE Clients. > >  > > >  > If an Ethernet frame is to be transmitted over the FlexE Group, are you > >  > saying that it is arbitrary which FlexE Client it will be transmitted > >  > over?? > >  > > >  > /Loa > >  > > >  > > >  > On 2018-12-25 14:41, niu.xiaobing@zte.com.cn wrote: > >  >  > hi Loa, > >  >  > > >  >  > Sorry for the late reply. > >  >  > > >  >  > In Fig2, 3,  and  4 of FlexE 2.0 IA, 'control' model works in this way, > >  >  > > >  >  > The control function manages which calendar slots each FlexE Client is > >  >  > inserted into > >  >  > > >  >  > and inserts the FlexE overhead on each FlexE PHY in the transmit direction. > >  >  > > >  >  > It does not relate to the mapping from 'the correct > >  >  > Ethernet Frame to the correct FlexE Client' in the FlexE Mux. > >  >  > > >  >  > I'm not sure if I understand your question correctly. > >  >  > > >  >  > > >  >  > Happy Christmas! > >  >  > > >  >  > > >  >  > 牛小兵     Xiaobing NIU > >  >  > > >  >  > 标准预研工程师   Standard Engineer > >  >  > > >  >  > 算法标准部/有线研究院/有线产品经营 > 部   Algorithm Standard Department/ > >  >  > Wireline Product R&D Institute > >  >  > > >  >  > ** > >  >  > > >  >  > 中兴通讯股份有限公司   ZTE Corporation > >  >  > > >  >  > 北京市朝阳区安定路5号院8号外运大厦A座4楼, 邮编: 100029 > >  >  > > >  >  > 4/F, Sinotrans Tower A, Building 8, No.5 Anding Road, Chaoyang > >  >  > District,Beijing, P.R.China, > >  >  > > >  >  > T: +86 755 xxxxxxxx M: +86 13439566425  > >  >  > > >  >  > E: niu.xiaobing@zte.com.cn  > >  >  > > >  >  > www.zte.com.cn  > >  >  > > >  >  > > >  >  > *发件人：*LoaAndersson  > >  >  > *收件人：*牛小兵10019881; > >  >  > *抄送人：*ccamp@ietf.org ;ccamp- > chairs@tools.ietf.org > >  >  > ; > >  >  > *日 期 ：*2018年12月19日 14:37 > >  >  > *主 题 ：**Re:  [CCAMP] Fwd: New Version Notification > >  >  > fordraft-izh-ccamp-flexe-fwk-06.txt* > >  >  > > >  >  > > >  >  > On 2018-12-18 17:52, niu.xiaobing@zte.com.cn wrote: > >  >  >  > hi, Loa > >  >  > > >  >  >  > >  >  >  > > >  >  >  > Once a FlexE group is created, it can be seen as one huge PCS module > >  >  >  > created as well. Transport of different FlexE client information streams > >  >  >  > over the FlexE group is decided by the data plane "control" module. > >  >  > > >  >  > What info does the data plane "control" module use to map the correct > >  >  > Ethernet Frame to the correct FlexE Client? > >  >  > > >  >  > /Loa > >  >  > > >  >  >  > >  >  > > >  >  > > >  >  > > >  >  > -- > >  >  > > >  >  > > >  >  > Loa Andersson                        email: loa@pi.nu > >  >  > Senior MPLS Expert > >  >  > Bronze Dragon Consulting             phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > >  >  > > >  >  > > >  > > >  > -- > >  > > >  > > >  > Loa Andersson                        email: loa@pi.nu > >  > Senior MPLS Expert > >  > Bronze Dragon Consulting             phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > >  > > >  > > > > > -- > > > > > > Loa Andersson                        email: loa@pi.nu > > Senior MPLS Expert > > Bronze Dragon Consulting             phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > CCAMP mailing list > > CCAMP@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > > > > > -- > > > Loa Andersson                        email: loa@pi.nu > Senior MPLS Expert > 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.90.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Cc: The IESG , ccamp-chairs@ietf.org, db3546@att.com, ccamp@ietf.org, Fatai Zhang , draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang@ietf.org, zhangfatai@huawei.com, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <154844835832.29050.5861816975008114842.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 12:32:38 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [CCAMP] Protocol Action: 'A YANG Data Model for Microwave Radio Link' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-13.txt) X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 20:32:39 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'A YANG Data Model for Microwave Radio Link' (draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-13.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Alvaro Retana, Martin Vigoureux and Deborah Brungard. A URL of this Internet Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang/ Technical Summary This document defines a YANG data model for control and management of the radio link interfaces, and their connectivity to packet (typically Ethernet) interfaces in a microwave/millimeter wave node. Working Group Summary This work has occupied good attention and has been discussed deeply within the WG. Document Quality The model was implemented in IETF 99 Hackathon with joint effort from mulitple vendors. Personnel Who is the Document Shepherd for this document? Fatai Zhang Who is the Responsible Area Director? Deborah Brungard From nobody Mon Jan 28 06:29:44 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietf.org Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF20A12867A; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 06:29:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: ccamp@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.90.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ccamp@ietf.org Message-ID: <154868577685.2858.12864763914136029156@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 06:29:36 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-alarm-module-07.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 14:29:37 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane WG of the IETF. Title : YANG Alarm Module Authors : Stefan Vallin Martin Bjorklund Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-alarm-module-07.txt Pages : 80 Date : 2019-01-28 Abstract: This document defines a YANG module for alarm management. It includes functions for alarm list management, alarm shelving and notifications to inform management systems. There are also operations to manage the operator state of an alarm and administrative alarm procedures. The module carefully maps to relevant alarm standards. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-alarm-module/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-alarm-module-07 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-alarm-module-07 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ccamp-alarm-module-07 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Jan 28 06:34:41 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ccamp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B7F128B01 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 06:34:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WpkKM6s_rRTz for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 06:34:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.tail-f.com (mail.tail-f.com [46.21.102.45]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFF2E12008F for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 06:34:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (h-4-215.A165.priv.bahnhof.se [158.174.4.215]) by mail.tail-f.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0E1EC1AE028C for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2019 15:34:34 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 15:34:33 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20190128.153433.979337678647150574.mbj@tail-f.com> To: ccamp@ietf.org From: Martin Bjorklund In-Reply-To: <154868577685.2858.12864763914136029156@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <154868577685.2858.12864763914136029156@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.7 on Emacs 25.2 / Mule 6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-alarm-module-07.txt X-BeenThere: ccamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion list for the CCAMP working group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 14:34:39 -0000 Hi, We have published -07 of the alarm module draft, addressing IETF LC comments, YANG Doctor's review and Rtgdir review. The changes are: - Corrected broken sentence in 3.6 Root Cause, Impacted Resources and Related Alarms Identified by Gert Grammel and Joel Halpern - Changes based on rtgdir review Joel Halpern - Updated section 3.6 on Root Cause, Impacted Resources and Related Alarms to clarify that these are optional features - Made the leafs relating to above into YANG features - Made shelf configuration ordered-by-user to clarify that only the first match will be used an alarm is only shelved once - Put alarm-type-id and alarm-type-qualifier within a list of the shelf configuration, to make sure you do not have to configure several shelves for one problem. - Renamed alarm-status parameter in purge action to alarm-clearance-status - Editorial changes from YANG Doctors - Corrected outdated references, idnits /martin & stefan internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane WG of the IETF. > > Title : YANG Alarm Module > Authors : Stefan Vallin > Martin Bjorklund > Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-alarm-module-07.txt > Pages : 80 > Date : 2019-01-28 > > Abstract: > This document defines a YANG module for alarm management. It > includes functions for alarm list management, alarm shelving and > notifications to inform management systems. There are also > operations to manage the operator state of an alarm and > administrative alarm procedures. The module carefully maps to > relevant alarm standards. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-alarm-module/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-alarm-module-07 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-alarm-module-07 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ccamp-alarm-module-07 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >