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Niven-Jenkins In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 14:45:39 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <429F154D-F5C1-433C-AAED-F80664A32F09@niven-jenkins.co.uk> References: <20141025081441.2004.72206.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <0D8B12F8-40E1-4D19-944F-4BC0C7D64972@niven-jenkins.co.uk> <68814413-8671-4A03-A274-CE89BD3AC4BD@cisco.com> <92C4A6BD-F61F-4019-AE12-A8F86D1BF3A8@niven-jenkins.co.uk> To: Francois Le Faucher X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Mailcore-Auth: 9600544 X-Mailcore-Domain: 172912 Archived-At: Cc: "cdni@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CDNi] Mandating support for TLS in draft-ietf-cdni-redirection X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 14:45:46 -0000 Francois, If that is the consensus of the WG I am OK with being called in the = rough. I'll push out a new revision of the redirection draft with the agreed = text later today. Ben On 3 Feb 2015, at 14:22, Francois Le Faucheur (flefauch) = wrote: > Ben and all, >=20 > (as a WG Chair) >=20 > We have discussed TLS support at length in the context of other = interfaces (eg cdni-logging). >=20 > I believe the concensus that was reached was: > * the various CDNI interfaces ought to include consistent text = for TLS, unless there is a specific reason to do otherwise > * TLS MUST be implemented > * TLS SHOULD be used whenever protection is needed > * TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 cipher suite MUST be = implemented > * cypher suites supporting perfect forward secrecy SHOULD be = used >=20 > To Ben=92s comments below, note that the approach above does not force = the use of TLS or of a particular cypher suite. It only forces all = implementations to have one security mechanisms in common (TLS) and one = good-enough cypher suite in common, which guarantees interoperability in = a secure mode. >=20 > At this stage I don=92t see a clear argument for changing that = approach. >=20 > Can we not also adopt this approach for cdni-redirection? >=20 > Cheers >=20 > Francois >=20 > PS: For memory, here is an excerpt from cdni-logging on teh same = topic: >=20 > " > An implementation of the CDNI Logging interface MUST support TLS > transport of the CDNI Logging feed (Section 4.1) and of the CDNI > Logging File pull (Section 4.2) as per [RFC2818] and [RFC7230]. >=20 > The use of TLS for transport of the CDNI Logging feed and CDNI > Logging File pull allows: >=20 > o the dCDN and uCDN to authenticate each other (to ensure they are > transmitting/receiving CDNI Logging File from an authenticated > CDN) >=20 > o the CDNI Logging information to be transmitted with > confidentiality >=20 > o the integrity of the CDNI Logging information to be protected > during the exchange >=20 > In an environment where any such protection is required, TLS SHOULD > be used (including authentication of the remote end) by the server- > side and the client-side of the CDNI Logging feed and the CDNI > Logging File pull mechanism unless alternate methods are used for > ensuring the confidentiality of the information in the logging files > (such as setting up an IPsec tunnel between the two CDNs or using a > physically secured internal network between two CDNs that are owned > by the same corporate entity). >=20 > An implementation of the CDNI Logging interface MUST support the > TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 cipher suite ( [RFC5288]). An > implementation of the CDNI Logging interface SHOULD prefer cipher > suites which support perfect forward secrecy over cipher suites that > don't. > =93 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On 10 Dec 2014, at 12:25, Ben Niven-Jenkins = wrote: >>=20 >> Francois, Kevin & Colleagues, >>=20 >> As part of reviewing draft-ietf-cdni-redirection it has been = suggested to mandate the use of TLS and to mandate support for some = cipher suite. >>=20 >> I am against such a change. >>=20 >> The RI interface document lays out in the security considerations = section the threats and then recommends (SHOULD) secure and = authenticated communication. >>=20 >> I have changed that to a MUST in the latest draft which now reads >> In order to prevent passive interception of RI messages the RI >> communications channel MUST be suitably secured (e.g. use of TLS). >>=20 >> In order to reduce the risk of information leakage to unauthorized >> parties, RI clients and servers MUST use suitable authentication >> prior to trusting the contents of RI messages. >>=20 >> which I believe to be sufficient. >>=20 >> I am against mandating TLS as it is not the only mechanism available = for securing the redirection interface, e.g. CDNs may use IPSec tunnels = and run the RI over them. The document already suggests TLS by example = and defines that the RI MUST run over a suitably secured & = authenticated channel. >>=20 >> Mandating TLS adds nothing extra to the specification except = inflexibility for deployers. >>=20 >> Likewise recommending a particular cipher suite seems problematic as = we are not security experts and the recommended suite may change over = time forcing a need to update the RFC just to update the advice on = cipher suites. Better to have the deployer follow the current best = practice for the secure channel they choose to deploy over IMO. >>=20 >> If the consensus of the working group is that we should mandate a = specific secure channel and/or a specific cipher suite, I'm OK to be = declared in the rough and make the necessary editorial changes. But I do = believe we're better off not going there and leaving it to deployers to = decide what is most appropriate for their environment. >>=20 >> Ben >>=20 >=20 From nobody Tue Feb 3 07:32:27 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FAEF1A0AF8 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2015 07:32:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.511 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.511 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e29KUyJhVQpr for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2015 07:32:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com [173.37.86.76]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB9E91A0369 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2015 07:32:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=5378; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1422977543; x=1424187143; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-id:content-transfer-encoding: mime-version; bh=D3MzeObLYq4+5HGqhoWxHjiG5hisSGzURAQTTsawVxg=; b=BCJHNhZAOXsjewqI1TCfrjF+2WRnYbZe7TRL5zNwbRtxKaXpEhHqqy/N 8RC5yhaKa3/hglBbwWYjqjG8+uT/rtUz7ePGIUS+17xhKF+7k2WsJtK3U vh9gWL1tXihWHls1h6zEPK/b+ctywKOOJL2xHNDSdE7CT0XKgmHkXXZmZ g=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ag0FAPPo0FStJA2K/2dsb2JhbABagwaBL8JeiBYCgRxDAQEBAQF9hAwBAQEDAWsJBQULAgEIGC4yJQIEDgWIJQjXAAEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAReKDoU3MweDFoETBY0mgWOFW4NKgReLC4Y6IoNub4FEfgEBAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.09,513,1418083200"; d="scan'208";a="393038168" Received: from alln-core-5.cisco.com ([173.36.13.138]) by rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 03 Feb 2015 15:32:23 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x09.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x09.cisco.com [173.36.12.83]) by alln-core-5.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t13FWMoC015108 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Tue, 3 Feb 2015 15:32:23 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-x10.cisco.com ([169.254.15.160]) by xhc-aln-x09.cisco.com ([173.36.12.83]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Tue, 3 Feb 2015 09:32:22 -0600 From: "Francois Le Faucheur (flefauch)" To: Niven-Jenkins Ben Thread-Topic: Mandating support for TLS in draft-ietf-cdni-redirection Thread-Index: AQHQP7zm1c0trJ22vUWsxllIj4qqUZzfZUKAgAANDIA= Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 15:32:21 +0000 Message-ID: <1E361533-FB43-4856-AD64-CC48EAAE451E@cisco.com> References: <20141025081441.2004.72206.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <0D8B12F8-40E1-4D19-944F-4BC0C7D64972@niven-jenkins.co.uk> <68814413-8671-4A03-A274-CE89BD3AC4BD@cisco.com> <92C4A6BD-F61F-4019-AE12-A8F86D1BF3A8@niven-jenkins.co.uk> <429F154D-F5C1-433C-AAED-F80664A32F09@niven-jenkins.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <429F154D-F5C1-433C-AAED-F80664A32F09@niven-jenkins.co.uk> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.55.161.197] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: <0B4B51158574474990EA353D8D8F577A@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "cdni@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CDNi] Mandating support for TLS in draft-ietf-cdni-redirection X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 15:32:26 -0000 Sounds good. The next version should then be ready for WGLC. Francois > On 3 Feb 2015, at 15:45, Ben Niven-Jenkins wrot= e: >=20 > Francois, >=20 > If that is the consensus of the WG I am OK with being called in the rough= . >=20 > I'll push out a new revision of the redirection draft with the agreed tex= t later today. >=20 > Ben >=20 > On 3 Feb 2015, at 14:22, Francois Le Faucheur (flefauch) wrote: >=20 >> Ben and all, >>=20 >> (as a WG Chair) >>=20 >> We have discussed TLS support at length in the context of other interfac= es (eg cdni-logging). >>=20 >> I believe the concensus that was reached was: >> * the various CDNI interfaces ought to include consistent text for TLS,= unless there is a specific reason to do otherwise >> * TLS MUST be implemented >> * TLS SHOULD be used whenever protection is needed >> * TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 cipher suite MUST be implemented >> * cypher suites supporting perfect forward secrecy SHOULD be used >>=20 >> To Ben=92s comments below, note that the approach above does not force t= he use of TLS or of a particular cypher suite. It only forces all implement= ations to have one security mechanisms in common (TLS) and one good-enough = cypher suite in common, which guarantees interoperability in a secure mode. >>=20 >> At this stage I don=92t see a clear argument for changing that approach. >>=20 >> Can we not also adopt this approach for cdni-redirection? >>=20 >> Cheers >>=20 >> Francois >>=20 >> PS: For memory, here is an excerpt from cdni-logging on teh same topic: >>=20 >> " >> An implementation of the CDNI Logging interface MUST support TLS >> transport of the CDNI Logging feed (Section 4.1) and of the CDNI >> Logging File pull (Section 4.2) as per [RFC2818] and [RFC7230]. >>=20 >> The use of TLS for transport of the CDNI Logging feed and CDNI >> Logging File pull allows: >>=20 >> o the dCDN and uCDN to authenticate each other (to ensure they are >> transmitting/receiving CDNI Logging File from an authenticated >> CDN) >>=20 >> o the CDNI Logging information to be transmitted with >> confidentiality >>=20 >> o the integrity of the CDNI Logging information to be protected >> during the exchange >>=20 >> In an environment where any such protection is required, TLS SHOULD >> be used (including authentication of the remote end) by the server- >> side and the client-side of the CDNI Logging feed and the CDNI >> Logging File pull mechanism unless alternate methods are used for >> ensuring the confidentiality of the information in the logging files >> (such as setting up an IPsec tunnel between the two CDNs or using a >> physically secured internal network between two CDNs that are owned >> by the same corporate entity). >>=20 >> An implementation of the CDNI Logging interface MUST support the >> TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 cipher suite ( [RFC5288]). An >> implementation of the CDNI Logging interface SHOULD prefer cipher >> suites which support perfect forward secrecy over cipher suites that >> don't. >> =93 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> On 10 Dec 2014, at 12:25, Ben Niven-Jenkins w= rote: >>>=20 >>> Francois, Kevin & Colleagues, >>>=20 >>> As part of reviewing draft-ietf-cdni-redirection it has been suggested = to mandate the use of TLS and to mandate support for some cipher suite. >>>=20 >>> I am against such a change. >>>=20 >>> The RI interface document lays out in the security considerations secti= on the threats and then recommends (SHOULD) secure and authenticated commun= ication. >>>=20 >>> I have changed that to a MUST in the latest draft which now reads >>> In order to prevent passive interception of RI messages the RI >>> communications channel MUST be suitably secured (e.g. use of TLS). >>>=20 >>> In order to reduce the risk of information leakage to unauthorized >>> parties, RI clients and servers MUST use suitable authentication >>> prior to trusting the contents of RI messages. >>>=20 >>> which I believe to be sufficient. >>>=20 >>> I am against mandating TLS as it is not the only mechanism available fo= r securing the redirection interface, e.g. CDNs may use IPSec tunnels and r= un the RI over them. The document already suggests TLS by example and defin= es that the RI MUST run over a suitably secured & authenticated channel. >>>=20 >>> Mandating TLS adds nothing extra to the specification except inflexibil= ity for deployers. >>>=20 >>> Likewise recommending a particular cipher suite seems problematic as we= are not security experts and the recommended suite may change over time fo= rcing a need to update the RFC just to update the advice on cipher suites. = Better to have the deployer follow the current best practice for the secure= channel they choose to deploy over IMO. >>>=20 >>> If the consensus of the working group is that we should mandate a speci= fic secure channel and/or a specific cipher suite, I'm OK to be declared in= the rough and make the necessary editorial changes. But I do believe we're= better off not going there and leaving it to deployers to decide what is m= ost appropriate for their environment. >>>=20 >>> Ben >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 From nobody Tue Feb 3 10:14:38 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC501A87D5 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2015 10:14:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.226 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.226 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_MODEMCABLE=0.768, HOST_EQ_MODEMCABLE=1.368, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jm-fP7NUFa3S for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2015 10:14:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from ondar.cablelabs.com (ondar.cablelabs.com [192.160.73.61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E94FB1A8780 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2015 10:14:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from kyzyl.cablelabs.com (kyzyl [10.253.0.7]) by ondar.cablelabs.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t13IEWor030554; Tue, 3 Feb 2015 11:14:32 -0700 Received: from exchange.cablelabs.com (10.5.0.19) by kyzyl.cablelabs.com (F-Secure/fsigk_smtp/407/kyzyl.cablelabs.com); Tue, 03 Feb 2015 11:14:32 -0700 (MST) X-Virus-Status: clean(F-Secure/fsigk_smtp/407/kyzyl.cablelabs.com) Received: from EXCHANGE.cablelabs.com ([::1]) by EXCHANGE.cablelabs.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0224.002; Tue, 3 Feb 2015 11:14:30 -0700 From: Daryl Malas To: "Francois Le Faucheur (flefauch)" , Niven-Jenkins Ben Thread-Topic: [CDNi] Mandating support for TLS in draft-ietf-cdni-redirection Thread-Index: AQHQP91Aqg9HrPrS4ECq9h1iUKu0qw== Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 18:14:29 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.4.7.141117 x-originating-ip: [10.5.0.27] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "draft-ietf-cdni-redirection@tools.ietf.org" , "cdni@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CDNi] Mandating support for TLS in draft-ietf-cdni-redirection X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 18:14:36 -0000 I concur. =8BDaryl On 2/3/15, 7:22 AM, "Francois Le Faucheur (flefauch)" wrote: >Ben and all, > >(as a WG Chair) > >We have discussed TLS support at length in the context of other >interfaces (eg cdni-logging). > >I believe the concensus that was reached was: > * the various CDNI interfaces ought to include consistent text for TLS, >unless there is a specific reason to do otherwise > * TLS MUST be implemented > * TLS SHOULD be used whenever protection is needed > * TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 cipher suite MUST be implemented > * cypher suites supporting perfect forward secrecy SHOULD be used > >To Ben=B9s comments below, note that the approach above does not force the >use of TLS or of a particular cypher suite. It only forces all >implementations to have one security mechanisms in common (TLS) and one >good-enough cypher suite in common, which guarantees interoperability in >a secure mode. > >At this stage I don=B9t see a clear argument for changing that approach. > >Can we not also adopt this approach for cdni-redirection? > >Cheers > >Francois > >PS: For memory, here is an excerpt from cdni-logging on teh same topic: > >" >An implementation of the CDNI Logging interface MUST support TLS > transport of the CDNI Logging feed (Section 4.1) and of the CDNI > Logging File pull (Section 4.2) as per [RFC2818] and [RFC7230]. > > The use of TLS for transport of the CDNI Logging feed and CDNI > Logging File pull allows: > > o the dCDN and uCDN to authenticate each other (to ensure they are > transmitting/receiving CDNI Logging File from an authenticated > CDN) > > o the CDNI Logging information to be transmitted with > confidentiality > > o the integrity of the CDNI Logging information to be protected > during the exchange > > In an environment where any such protection is required, TLS SHOULD > be used (including authentication of the remote end) by the server- > side and the client-side of the CDNI Logging feed and the CDNI > Logging File pull mechanism unless alternate methods are used for > ensuring the confidentiality of the information in the logging files > (such as setting up an IPsec tunnel between the two CDNs or using a > physically secured internal network between two CDNs that are owned > by the same corporate entity). > > An implementation of the CDNI Logging interface MUST support the > TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 cipher suite ( [RFC5288]). An > implementation of the CDNI Logging interface SHOULD prefer cipher > suites which support perfect forward secrecy over cipher suites that > don't. >=B3 > > > > >> On 10 Dec 2014, at 12:25, Ben Niven-Jenkins >>wrote: >>=20 >> Francois, Kevin & Colleagues, >>=20 >> As part of reviewing draft-ietf-cdni-redirection it has been suggested >>to mandate the use of TLS and to mandate support for some cipher suite. >>=20 >> I am against such a change. >>=20 >> The RI interface document lays out in the security considerations >>section the threats and then recommends (SHOULD) secure and >>authenticated communication. >>=20 >> I have changed that to a MUST in the latest draft which now reads >> In order to prevent passive interception of RI messages the RI >> communications channel MUST be suitably secured (e.g. use of TLS). >>=20 >> In order to reduce the risk of information leakage to unauthorized >> parties, RI clients and servers MUST use suitable authentication >> prior to trusting the contents of RI messages. >>=20 >> which I believe to be sufficient. >>=20 >> I am against mandating TLS as it is not the only mechanism available >>for securing the redirection interface, e.g. CDNs may use IPSec tunnels >>and run the RI over them. The document already suggests TLS by example >>and defines that the RI MUST run over a suitably secured & >>authenticated channel. >>=20 >> Mandating TLS adds nothing extra to the specification except >>inflexibility for deployers. >>=20 >> Likewise recommending a particular cipher suite seems problematic as we >>are not security experts and the recommended suite may change over time >>forcing a need to update the RFC just to update the advice on cipher >>suites. Better to have the deployer follow the current best practice for >>the secure channel they choose to deploy over IMO. >>=20 >> If the consensus of the working group is that we should mandate a >>specific secure channel and/or a specific cipher suite, I'm OK to be >>declared in the rough and make the necessary editorial changes. But I do >>believe we're better off not going there and leaving it to deployers to >>decide what is most appropriate for their environment. >>=20 >> Ben >>=20 > >_______________________________________________ >CDNi mailing list >CDNi@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cdni From nobody Wed Feb 4 01:09:48 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 084751A8709; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 01:09:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gTgQdWrTuwSq; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 01:09:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E3191A871C; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 01:09:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.10.1.p2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150204090937.8168.26782.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 01:09:37 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: cdni@ietf.org Subject: [CDNi] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cdni-redirection-07.txt X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 09:09:40 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Content Delivery Networks Interconnection Working Group of the IETF. Title : Request Routing Redirection Interface for CDN Interconnection Authors : Ben Niven-Jenkins Ray van Brandenburg Filename : draft-ietf-cdni-redirection-07.txt Pages : 31 Date : 2015-02-04 Abstract: The Request Routing Interface comprises of (1) the asynchronous advertisement of footprint and capabilities by a downstream CDN that allows an upstream CDN to decide whether to redirect particular user requests to that downstream CDN; and (2) the synchronous operation of an upstream CDN requesting whether a downstream CDN is prepared to accept a user request and of a downstream CDN responding with how to actually redirect the user request. This document describes an interface for the latter part, i.e. the CDNI Request Routing Redirection interface. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-redirection/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cdni-redirection-07 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-cdni-redirection-07 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Message-ID: References: <70FF5D89-A88C-49A6-84C1-D885968C8C71@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <70FF5D89-A88C-49A6-84C1-D885968C8C71@cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.55.161.197] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "cdni@ietf.org" Subject: [CDNi] Minor NIt on draft-ietf-cdni-control-triggers-05.txt X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 15:24:07 -0000 Hi Rob, The ID-Nit tool pointed out that cdni-control-triggers lists RFC3986 in the= Normative References but never uses that reference. Can you either remove = the RFC from the Normative Red section, or add the reference text in the do= cument where it is useful to reference it? In any case, I suggest you do run ID-Nit before posting any new rev. Thanks Francois PS: Just trying to get ready for IESG review. > On 22 Jan 2015, at 17:38, Francois Le Faucheur (flefauch) wrote: >=20 > Hi Rob, >=20 >>=20 >> On 29/12/2014 12:51, "Rob Murray" wrote: >>=20 >>> Hi all, I've posted a new version of the Triggers draft to address >>> comments from Ray and Francois - detailed replies to those two sets of >>> comments are below. >=20 > Thanks for addressing all my comments. All resolutions are fine by me. >=20 > To the question you raised: >>>=20 >>>> *** 5.1.1 >>>> =B3A JSON array of S=B2 >>>> Does the term =B3array=B2 have a completely specified meaning? >>>=20 >>> I believe so, it's a JSON term defined in section 5 of RFC 7159 ... do >>> you think it needs a specific reference? >=20 > It=92s your call. > Personnally I would put a reference so it faciliates reading of the docum= ent by non JSON experts (Yes, those do still exist ). >=20 > Francois > _______________________________________________ > CDNi mailing list > CDNi@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cdni From nobody Wed Feb 4 15:27:01 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555551A005E; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 15:26:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gGrPRIFJOqme; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 15:26:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0621A0024; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 15:26:56 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.10.1.p2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Sender: Message-ID: <20150204232656.19482.11237.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 15:26:56 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: cdni@ietf.org Subject: [CDNi] Last Call: (CDNI Logging Interface) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 23:26:57 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the Content Delivery Networks Interconnection WG (cdni) to consider the following document: - 'CDNI Logging Interface' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2015-02-18. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract This memo specifies the Logging interface between a downstream CDN (dCDN) and an upstream CDN (uCDN) that are interconnected as per the CDN Interconnection (CDNI) framework. First, it describes a reference model for CDNI logging. Then, it specifies the CDNI Logging File format and the actual protocol for exchange of CDNI Logging Files. The file can be obtained via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-logging/ IESG discussion can be tracked via http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-logging/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. From nobody Thu Feb 5 05:15:05 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 247AA1A8763 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2015 05:15:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O7QP7lETajfe for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2015 05:15:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailex.mailcore.me (mailex.mailcore.me [94.136.40.61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 838001A8762 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2015 05:15:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from host4.velocix.com ([81.134.152.4] helo=xxx.corp.velocix.com) by smtp04.mailcore.me with esmtpa (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YJMGo-0004iN-5a; Thu, 05 Feb 2015 13:14:58 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) From: Ben Niven-Jenkins In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 13:14:56 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <87D647FD-CBCE-4560-9D9E-80E302DCD2FD@niven-jenkins.co.uk> References: <20150204090937.8168.26782.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: Francois Le Faucher X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Mailcore-Auth: 9600544 X-Mailcore-Domain: 172912 Archived-At: Cc: "cdni@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CDNi] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cdni-redirection-07.txt X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2015 13:15:04 -0000 Francois, On 4 Feb 2015, at 09:40, Francois Le Faucheur (flefauch) = wrote: > Hi Ben, >=20 > The text added about TLS looks good to me. >=20 > But I noticed the old text about TLS is still there: > "In order to prevent passive interception of RI messages the RI > communications channel MUST be suitably secured (e.g. use of TLS). >=20 > In order to reduce the risk of information leakage to unauthorized > parties, RI clients and servers MUST use suitable authentication > prior to trusting the contents of RI messages. > " > I believe it should be removed, since it is now overridden by the = following new text : "In an environment where any such protection is = required, TLS SHOULD > be used=94 (where =93protection" has been defined before as = authentication, confidentiality and integrity).=20 I do not think the old text and the added text conflict with each other = but are complementary. The old text states the general requirements, = i.e. comms channel MUST be suitably secured & suitably authenticated. = The new text then requires that implementations implement TLS for an = interoperable means to meet the general requirements. Having both makes it clear that if TLS is not used then a suitably = secured & authenticated alternative still MUST be used. Ben >=20 > Can you re-issue without the two =93old=94 sentences? >=20 > Thanks >=20 > Francois >=20 > PS: noticed one typo : > "CDNI Redirection minterface=94 =97> "CDNI Redirection interface" >=20 >=20 >> On 4 Feb 2015, at 10:09, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts = directories. >> This draft is a work item of the Content Delivery Networks = Interconnection Working Group of the IETF. >>=20 >> Title : Request Routing Redirection Interface for CDN = Interconnection >> Authors : Ben Niven-Jenkins >> Ray van Brandenburg >> Filename : draft-ietf-cdni-redirection-07.txt >> Pages : 31 >> Date : 2015-02-04 >>=20 >> Abstract: >> The Request Routing Interface comprises of (1) the asynchronous >> advertisement of footprint and capabilities by a downstream CDN that >> allows an upstream CDN to decide whether to redirect particular user >> requests to that downstream CDN; and (2) the synchronous operation = of >> an upstream CDN requesting whether a downstream CDN is prepared to >> accept a user request and of a downstream CDN responding with how to >> actually redirect the user request. This document describes an >> interface for the latter part, i.e. the CDNI Request Routing >> Redirection interface. >>=20 >>=20 >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-redirection/ >>=20 >> There's also a htmlized version available at: >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cdni-redirection-07 >>=20 >> A diff from the previous version is available at: >> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-cdni-redirection-07 >>=20 >>=20 >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >>=20 >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> I-D-Announce mailing list >> I-D-Announce@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce >> Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html >> or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt From nobody Thu Feb 5 08:15:20 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F65F1A8938 for ; 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Thu, 5 Feb 2015 10:15:04 -0600 From: "Francois Le Faucheur (flefauch)" To: Niven-Jenkins Ben Thread-Topic: I-D Action: draft-ietf-cdni-redirection-07.txt Thread-Index: AQHQQFpXjuFdycsSYkSTX+vvqUFiMJzgoPyAgAHOXACAADJTgA== Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 16:15:03 +0000 Message-ID: <483842AC-3983-4087-BA3E-393F7A784307@cisco.com> References: <20150204090937.8168.26782.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <87D647FD-CBCE-4560-9D9E-80E302DCD2FD@niven-jenkins.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <87D647FD-CBCE-4560-9D9E-80E302DCD2FD@niven-jenkins.co.uk> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.55.161.197] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "cdni@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CDNi] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cdni-redirection-07.txt X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2015 16:15:12 -0000 Hi Ben, > On 4 Feb 2015, at 09:40, Francois Le Faucheur (flefauch) wrote: >=20 >> Hi Ben, >>=20 >> The text added about TLS looks good to me. >>=20 >> But I noticed the old text about TLS is still there: >> "In order to prevent passive interception of RI messages the RI >> communications channel MUST be suitably secured (e.g. use of TLS). >>=20 >> In order to reduce the risk of information leakage to unauthorized >> parties, RI clients and servers MUST use suitable authentication >> prior to trusting the contents of RI messages. >> " >> I believe it should be removed, since it is now overridden by the follow= ing new text : "In an environment where any such protection is required, TL= S SHOULD >> be used=94 (where =93protection" has been defined before as authentica= tion, confidentiality and integrity).=20 >=20 > I do not think the old text and the added text conflict with each other b= ut are complementary. The old text states the general requirements, i.e. co= mms channel MUST be suitably secured & suitably authenticated. The new text= then requires that implementations implement TLS for an interoperable mean= s to meet the general requirements. >=20 > Having both makes it clear that if TLS is not used then a suitably secure= d & authenticated alternative still MUST be used. I think your concern is that we want to be sure that if one does not use TL= S, one needs to do the right thing. That is a valid concern. However: 1) I think this goal is already achieved with the =93new=94 text because of= the RFC2119 meaning of =93SHOULD=94: "This word, or the adjective "RECOMMENDED", mean that there may exist valid reasons in particular circumstances to ignore a particular item, but the full implications must be understood and carefully weighed before choosing a different course.=94 So this does say that if you want to do something different, you need to re= ally understand and =93need to do the right thing=94 (which may be to not u= se any security mechanism, use some weaker ones, use some stonger ones, use= some partial ones,..).=20 2) the new text does not really add much because it does not mandate any me= chanism nor does it indicate what is =93suitable=94 for what enviornment (i= e again, no mechanism at all may be perfectly suitable in some cases). 3) the old text and new text do not dovetail nicely. For example, the old t= ext does not say anything about integrity protection. So I think if we wnat= ed to add something, we should rephrase the =93old=94 text so it fits with = the flow of the new text. Say, we have : Proposition 1: you SHOULD use TLS Proposition 2: you MUST do the right thing and you SHOULD use TLS in mind mind, given the definition of =93SHOULD=94 proposition 1 and propos= ition 2 are equivalent, so I=92d rather stick to Proposition 1. No? Also, I believe this discussion applies equally to all interfaces, so we sh= ould reflect the outcome of this discussion to all interfaces. Francois >=20 > Ben >=20 >>=20 >> Can you re-issue without the two =93old=94 sentences? >>=20 >> Thanks >>=20 >> Francois >>=20 >> PS: noticed one typo : >> "CDNI Redirection minterface=94 =97> "CDNI Redirection interface" >>=20 >>=20 >>> On 4 Feb 2015, at 10:09, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts dire= ctories. >>> This draft is a work item of the Content Delivery Networks Interconnect= ion Working Group of the IETF. >>>=20 >>> Title : Request Routing Redirection Interface for CDN In= terconnection >>> Authors : Ben Niven-Jenkins >>> Ray van Brandenburg >>> Filename : draft-ietf-cdni-redirection-07.txt >>> Pages : 31 >>> Date : 2015-02-04 >>>=20 >>> Abstract: >>> The Request Routing Interface comprises of (1) the asynchronous >>> advertisement of footprint and capabilities by a downstream CDN that >>> allows an upstream CDN to decide whether to redirect particular user >>> requests to that downstream CDN; and (2) the synchronous operation of >>> an upstream CDN requesting whether a downstream CDN is prepared to >>> accept a user request and of a downstream CDN responding with how to >>> actually redirect the user request. This document describes an >>> interface for the latter part, i.e. the CDNI Request Routing >>> Redirection interface. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-redirection/ >>>=20 >>> There's also a htmlized version available at: >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cdni-redirection-07 >>>=20 >>> A diff from the previous version is available at: >>> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-cdni-redirection-07 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submi= ssion >>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >>>=20 >>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> I-D-Announce mailing list >>> I-D-Announce@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce >>> Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html >>> or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt >=20 From nobody Sat Feb 7 09:15:49 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E45ED1A895A; Sat, 7 Feb 2015 09:15:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E_0cJEXQt4iZ; Sat, 7 Feb 2015 09:15:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E701A895B; Sat, 7 Feb 2015 09:15:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.10.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150207171541.27697.85.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2015 09:15:41 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: cdni@ietf.org Subject: [CDNi] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cdni-redirection-08.txt X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2015 17:15:47 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Content Delivery Networks Interconnection Working Group of the IETF. Title : Request Routing Redirection Interface for CDN Interconnection Authors : Ben Niven-Jenkins Ray van Brandenburg Filename : draft-ietf-cdni-redirection-08.txt Pages : 31 Date : 2015-02-07 Abstract: The Request Routing Interface comprises of (1) the asynchronous advertisement of footprint and capabilities by a downstream CDN that allows an upstream CDN to decide whether to redirect particular user requests to that downstream CDN; and (2) the synchronous operation of an upstream CDN requesting whether a downstream CDN is prepared to accept a user request and of a downstream CDN responding with how to actually redirect the user request. This document describes an interface for the latter part, i.e. the CDNI Request Routing Redirection interface. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-redirection/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cdni-redirection-08 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-cdni-redirection-08 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sat Feb 7 09:18:30 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AFAA1A1BDF for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2015 09:16:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PfrGfFjUObGm for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2015 09:16:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailex.mailcore.me (mailex.mailcore.me [94.136.40.61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF4B1A895E for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2015 09:16:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from cpc4-cmbg17-2-0-cust814.5-4.cable.virginm.net ([86.14.227.47] helo=[192.168.0.3]) by smtp04.mailcore.me with esmtpa (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YK8za-00038Z-C4; Sat, 07 Feb 2015 17:16:26 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) From: Ben Niven-Jenkins In-Reply-To: <483842AC-3983-4087-BA3E-393F7A784307@cisco.com> Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 17:16:24 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20150204090937.8168.26782.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <87D647FD-CBCE-4560-9D9E-80E302DCD2FD@niven-jenkins.co.uk> <483842AC-3983-4087-BA3E-393F7A784307@cisco.com> To: Francois Le Faucher X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Mailcore-Auth: 9600544 X-Mailcore-Domain: 172912 Archived-At: Cc: "cdni@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CDNi] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cdni-redirection-07.txt X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2015 17:16:33 -0000 Francois, I have published a -08 that removes the offending sentences. Regards Ben On 5 Feb 2015, at 16:15, Francois Le Faucheur (flefauch) = wrote: > Hi Ben, >=20 >> On 4 Feb 2015, at 09:40, Francois Le Faucheur (flefauch) = wrote: >>=20 >>> Hi Ben, >>>=20 >>> The text added about TLS looks good to me. >>>=20 >>> But I noticed the old text about TLS is still there: >>> "In order to prevent passive interception of RI messages the RI >>> communications channel MUST be suitably secured (e.g. use of TLS). >>>=20 >>> In order to reduce the risk of information leakage to unauthorized >>> parties, RI clients and servers MUST use suitable authentication >>> prior to trusting the contents of RI messages. >>> " >>> I believe it should be removed, since it is now overridden by the = following new text : "In an environment where any such protection is = required, TLS SHOULD >>> be used=94 (where =93protection" has been defined before as = authentication, confidentiality and integrity).=20 >>=20 >> I do not think the old text and the added text conflict with each = other but are complementary. The old text states the general = requirements, i.e. comms channel MUST be suitably secured & suitably = authenticated. The new text then requires that implementations implement = TLS for an interoperable means to meet the general requirements. >>=20 >> Having both makes it clear that if TLS is not used then a suitably = secured & authenticated alternative still MUST be used. >=20 > I think your concern is that we want to be sure that if one does not = use TLS, one needs to do the right thing. That is a valid concern. >=20 > However: >=20 > 1) I think this goal is already achieved with the =93new=94 text = because of the RFC2119 meaning of =93SHOULD=94: > "This word, or the adjective "RECOMMENDED", mean that there > may exist valid reasons in particular circumstances to ignore a > particular item, but the full implications must be understood and > carefully weighed before choosing a different course.=94 > So this does say that if you want to do something different, you need = to really understand and =93need to do the right thing=94 (which may be = to not use any security mechanism, use some weaker ones, use some = stonger ones, use some partial ones,..).=20 >=20 > 2) the new text does not really add much because it does not mandate = any mechanism nor does it indicate what is =93suitable=94 for what = enviornment (ie again, no mechanism at all may be perfectly suitable in = some cases). >=20 > 3) the old text and new text do not dovetail nicely. For example, the = old text does not say anything about integrity protection. So I think if = we wnated to add something, we should rephrase the =93old=94 text so it = fits with the flow of the new text. >=20 >=20 > Say, we have : >=20 > Proposition 1: > you SHOULD use TLS >=20 > Proposition 2: > you MUST do the right thing > and you SHOULD use TLS >=20 > in mind mind, given the definition of =93SHOULD=94 proposition 1 and = proposition 2 are equivalent, so I=92d rather stick to Proposition 1. > No? >=20 >=20 > Also, I believe this discussion applies equally to all interfaces, so = we should reflect the outcome of this discussion to all interfaces. >=20 > Francois >=20 >>=20 >> Ben >>=20 >>>=20 >>> Can you re-issue without the two =93old=94 sentences? >>>=20 >>> Thanks >>>=20 >>> Francois >>>=20 >>> PS: noticed one typo : >>> "CDNI Redirection minterface=94 =97> "CDNI Redirection interface" >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On 4 Feb 2015, at 10:09, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts = directories. >>>> This draft is a work item of the Content Delivery Networks = Interconnection Working Group of the IETF. >>>>=20 >>>> Title : Request Routing Redirection Interface for CDN = Interconnection >>>> Authors : Ben Niven-Jenkins >>>> Ray van Brandenburg >>>> Filename : draft-ietf-cdni-redirection-07.txt >>>> Pages : 31 >>>> Date : 2015-02-04 >>>>=20 >>>> Abstract: >>>> The Request Routing Interface comprises of (1) the asynchronous >>>> advertisement of footprint and capabilities by a downstream CDN = that >>>> allows an upstream CDN to decide whether to redirect particular = user >>>> requests to that downstream CDN; and (2) the synchronous operation = of >>>> an upstream CDN requesting whether a downstream CDN is prepared to >>>> accept a user request and of a downstream CDN responding with how = to >>>> actually redirect the user request. This document describes an >>>> interface for the latter part, i.e. the CDNI Request Routing >>>> Redirection interface. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-redirection/ >>>>=20 >>>> There's also a htmlized version available at: >>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cdni-redirection-07 >>>>=20 >>>> A diff from the previous version is available at: >>>> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-cdni-redirection-07 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission >>>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at = tools.ietf.org. >>>>=20 >>>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >>>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >>>>=20 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> I-D-Announce mailing list >>>> I-D-Announce@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce >>>> Internet-Draft 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(Ray) van" To: Rob Murray , "Francois Le Faucheur (flefauch)" Thread-Topic: [CDNi] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cdni-control-triggers-05.txt Thread-Index: AQHQI11E2nWqvHtMoEiGr24Q5PBNtJymZCWAgCJ1S6CAF9+3AIARkjqAgAEEUpA= Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 09:33:13 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20141229114647.7621.55315.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <7FDC0CFB-3546-46A9-B3F9-8880EA3CD1F0@velocix.com> <49C77373835C5A479BC2A84B2A1D66BDDA888F04@EXB01-MLT.corp.velocix.com> In-Reply-To: <49C77373835C5A479BC2A84B2A1D66BDDA888F04@EXB01-MLT.corp.velocix.com> Accept-Language: en-US, nl-NL Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [134.221.225.191] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_FCC100FC8D6B034CB88CD8173B2DA158203F28B2EXCMBX03tsntnon_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "cdni@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CDNi] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cdni-control-triggers-05.txt X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss 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WEDNESDAY, March 25, 2015 1300-1500 Afternoon Session I Far East TSV cdni Content Delivery Networks I= nterconnection WG Note that this is the preliminary agenda, so it might change. Cheers Francois Begin forwarded message: From: IETF Agenda > To: Working Group Chairs > Subject: IETF 92 Preliminary Agenda Date: 20 February 2015 23:28:20 CET Cc: > Reply-To: IETF Agenda > The IETF 92 preliminary agenda has been posted. The final agenda will be p= ublished on Friday, February 27th, 2015. If you would like to request a change to the preliminary agenda, please sen= d a message to agenda@ietf.org and copy all relevan= t Area Directors. Please note the cut-off date for requests to reschedule Working Group sessi= ons and BOFs is Wednesday, February 25th, 2015 at UTC 23:59. https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/92/agenda.html https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/92/agenda.txt Thank you! 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FYI, as per the preliminary agenda just published, the CDNI= WG session is scheduled for Wed at 13:00.

WED=
NESDAY, March 25, 2015
1300-1500  Afternoon Session I
Far East        	TSV 	cdni        	Content Delivery Networks Interconnectio=
n WG

Note that this is the preliminary agenda, so it might chang= e.

Cheers

Francois

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The IETF 92 preliminary agenda has been posted.  The f= inal agenda will be published on Friday, February 27th, 2015.  

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Please note the cut-off date for requests to reschedule Working Group sessi= ons and BOFs is Wednesday, February 25th, 2015 at UTC 23:59.

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https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/92/agenda.txt

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--_000_5F2CE3B0535A4C3696390966EA267CFBciscocom_-- From nobody Mon Feb 23 00:30:39 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 427FC1A037D; Mon, 23 Feb 2015 00:30:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KxuAibd1W0sO; Mon, 23 Feb 2015 00:30:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A3BB1A037E; Mon, 23 Feb 2015 00:30:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.11.0.p2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150223083036.4389.82348.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 00:30:36 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: cdni@ietf.org Subject: [CDNi] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cdni-control-triggers-06.txt X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 08:30:38 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. 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