From nobody Wed Jul 1 00:51:14 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26FCD1B2CA5; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 12:59:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Cc-gBDYNzVwe; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-fr.alcatel-lucent.com (fr-hpida-esg-02.alcatel-lucent.com [135.245.210.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC0AE1B2CA2; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 12:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fr712usmtp2.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (unknown [135.239.2.42]) by Websense Email Security Gateway with ESMTPS id A75FFFC6F2B8D; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 19:59:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from FR712WXCHHUB03.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (fr712wxchhub03.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com [135.239.2.74]) by fr712usmtp2.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (GMO) with ESMTP id t5UJxDbN023616 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Tue, 30 Jun 2015 21:59:14 +0200 Received: from FR711WXCHMBA02.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com ([169.254.2.246]) by FR712WXCHHUB03.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.239.2.74]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 21:59:14 +0200 From: "Murray, Rob (Rob)" To: Carsten Bormann , "cdni@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Appsdir review for draft-ietf-cdni-control-triggers-06 Thread-Index: AQHQs288+0Se9Q7wqEGDOy/Ug2IyeA== Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 19:59:13 +0000 Message-ID: References: <5523143E.3070503@tzi.org> In-Reply-To: <5523143E.3070503@tzi.org> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.2.150604 x-originating-ip: [135.239.27.39] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 01 Jul 2015 00:51:14 -0700 Cc: "apps-discuss@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CDNi] Appsdir review for draft-ietf-cdni-control-triggers-06 X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 19:59:18 -0000 Hi all, Thank you for your comments Carsten, I've published a -07 to address them as described below. As agreed in the Dallas meeting - I've also aligned the section about use of TLS with the latest logging draft, and added some words about privacy. Cheers, Rob. On 07/04/2015 00:18, "Carsten Bormann" wrote: >I have been selected as an Applications Area Directorate reviewer for >this draft (for background on appsdir, please see >http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/ApplicationsAreaDirectorate >), with a specific view on the JSON usage in this specification. > >Please resolve these comments along with any other comments you may >receive. Please wait for direction from your document shepherd or AD >before posting a new version of the draft. (Feel free to forward >these comments to the WG list if that helps in resolving the comments.) > >Document: draft-ietf-cdni-control-triggers-06 >Title: CDNI Control Interface / Triggers >Reviewer: Carsten Bormann >Review Date: 2015-04-06 > >* Summary: This draft is ready for publication as a standards track RFC, >after a few misphrasings and minor details in the usage of HTTP have >been corrected. > >* Major issues: None. > >* Minor issues: > >The protocol is REST-based in that it creates dCDN activities using a >POST-based interface, which then can be examined using GET on the >location returned (making good use of HTTP, e.g., for caching) and be >DELETEd for canceling them. It is not making use of the fact that the >subject of these activities are REST resources themselves. This >paragraph just takes note of this fact, without necessarily suggesting >a need (or even usefulness) for a change. >Is "authenticate" the right word in the 2nd para of 4.1? >(How do you authenticate a CI/T command? There is no authentication >information provided.) Good point, dropped "and authenticates". >For the benefit of the implementer, the last paragraph of section 4.1 >could say what is "an appropriate HTTP status code" here -- 405 Method >not allowed? Added. >4.2.1 could give a little additional guidance on how to use the ETag >for the collection (possibly pointing to the examples). Changed from: "When polling in this way, the uCDN SHOULD use HTTP Entity Tags to monitor for change, rather than repeatedly fetching the whole collection." to: "When polling in this way, the uCDN SHOULD use HTTP Entity Tags to monitor for change, rather than repeatedly fetching the whole collection. An example of this is given in section 6.2.4." >4.3 uses 403 forbidden to indicate that a feature is not implemented? Changed to "501 Not Implemented" ? >4.6 the phrasing "into the cdn-path key" used here is misleading: The >intent is to have one array element appended to the end of the array >under the entry named "cdn-path". Changed to ... In every CI/T Command it originates or cascades, each CDN MUST append an array element containing its CDN Provider ID to a JSON array under an entry named "cdn-path". >4.7 uses 401 for no permission, while section 8.1 correctly proposes >403 Forbidden (or 404 Not Found) for this case. Changed to "403 or 404". >5.1.2 uses the phrasing "list of" Error Descriptions, apparently with >the intention that this be an array of Error Descriptions. Prefer >making this explicit. Are empty lists allowed? (The whole entry is >non-mandatory.) Changed to ... An array of Error Description, as defined in . An empty array is allowed, and equivalent to omitting "errors" from the object. >(More generally, the spec could be explicit where empty arrays are >allowed and where not.) Made the following explicitly not allowed to be empty ... 5.5.1 "cancel", "cdn-path" And this one explicitly allowed to be empty ... 5.1.3 "triggers" >5.1.3: Is staleresourcetime allowed to be negative? zero? >(Note also that Absolute Time is a general JSON number, which includes >floating point, while this is an integer?) Changed to "A JSON number, which must be a positive integer, representing time in seconds.". >5.2.6 fails to say that Error Descriptions are JSON objects. Added "It is encoded as a JSON object with the following name/value pairs:". >Why is the third request in 6.2.4 not using an ETag, contrary to >its own recommendation? Oops, it is now. (And the fourth request.) >* Gratuitous formalization of the JSON data: > >(I have validated the examples against this formalization, using the >CDDL tool.) Oooh - nice, thank you! I've added it to the doc. >CIT-object =3D CIT-command / Trigger-Status-Resource / Trigger-Collection > >CIT-command ; use media type application/cdni.ci.TriggerCommand+json >=3D { > ? trigger: Triggerspec > ? cancel: [* URI] > cdn-path: [* Cdn-PID] >} > >Trigger-Status-Resource ; application/cdni.ci.TriggerStatus+json. >=3D { > trigger: Triggerspec > ctime: Absolute-Time > mtime: Absolute-Time > ? etime: Absolute-Time > status: Trigger-Status > ? errors: [* Error-Description] >} > >Trigger-Collection ; application/cdni.ci.TriggerCollection+json >=3D { > triggers: [* URI] > ? staleresourcetime: int ; time in seconds > ? coll-all: URI > ? coll-pending: URI > ? coll-active: URI > ? coll-complete: URI > ? coll-failed: URI > ? cdn-id: Cdn-PID >} > >Triggerspec =3D { ; 5.2.1 > type: Trigger-Type > ? metadata.urls: [* URI] > ? content.urls: [* URI] > ? content.ccid: [* Ccid] > ? metadata.patterns: [* Pattern-Match] > ? content.patterns: [* Pattern-Match] >} > >Trigger-Type =3D "preposition" / "invalidate" / "purge" ; 5.2.2 > >Trigger-Status =3D "pending" / "active" / "complete" / "processed" > / "failed" / "cancelling" / "cancelled" ; 5.2.3 > >Pattern-Match =3D { ; 5.2.4 > pattern: tstr > ? case-sensitive: bool > ? match-query-string: bool >} > >Absolute-Time =3D number ; seconds since UNIX epoch, 5.2.5 > >Error-Description =3D { ; 5.2.6 > error: Error-Code > ? metadata.urls: [* URI] > ? content.urls: [* URI] > ? metadata.patterns: [* Pattern-Match] > ? content.patterns: [* Pattern-Match] > ? description: tstr >} > >Error-Code =3D "emeta" / "econtent" / "eperm" / "ereject" > / "ecdn" / "ecancelled" ; 5.2.7 > >Ccid =3D tstr ; see I-D.ietf-cdni-metadata > >Cdn-PID =3D tstr .regexp "AS[0-9]+:[0-9]+" > >URI =3D tstr > From nobody Wed Jul 1 08:18:39 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DADC1A9038 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2015 08:18:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.51 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.51 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Cf1GvKY_ZQre for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2015 08:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alln-iport-5.cisco.com (alln-iport-5.cisco.com [173.37.142.92]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC3B01A9029 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2015 08:18:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=6554; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1435763917; x=1436973517; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:references:mime-version; bh=cYgVxMwZtrGGeElpXCM1Tlpcdr7Uj5ZYCUIwrsnuXGo=; b=ZQiEjXgqAAPtm4OcRv8cRWZLh9LBJ1r/wZvyTsC1TJbGrdLEjANecAn5 kJvKK4GkVUHpMoEDvsPlVvEyLXX4y7rPx5/DV3LxXf2uAlmqFfv6sTgkm ZP7/fROyT2RwOtGVFDzW5Mef3eW2OOGtQSjkh3HOsUmt5eWA/awr2+qr/ E=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0DKAwDAA5RV/5RdJa1bgxFUXwa9KQmBZAEJhXgCgVE4FAEBAQEBAQGBCoQiAQEBBIEJAgEZAwECKAcyFAkIAgQTCYgmDcw7AQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBF5BMCgeCJ00dgRQFjEqEZIJiAYRcRoY+lDWEDyZjgxdvAYFFgQIBAQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.15,386,1432598400"; d="scan'208,217";a="164640276" Received: from rcdn-core-12.cisco.com ([173.37.93.148]) by alln-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 01 Jul 2015 15:18:36 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x03.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x03.cisco.com [173.36.12.77]) by rcdn-core-12.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t61FIZaN009697 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 1 Jul 2015 15:18:36 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-x10.cisco.com ([169.254.15.123]) by xhc-aln-x03.cisco.com ([173.36.12.77]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Wed, 1 Jul 2015 10:18:35 -0500 From: "Francois Le Faucheur (flefauch)" To: "cdni@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Important Dates for IETF 93 Thread-Index: AQHQtBEyshfWuovMg02RDL+lWIfYRw== Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 15:18:35 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20150627000004.5527.8974.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.55.161.197] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_A071CD72995B4043A5B193D53E15FBD5ciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [CDNi] Important Dates for IETF 93 X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2015 15:18:38 -0000 --_000_A071CD72995B4043A5B193D53E15FBD5ciscocom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Folks, Note that : * the CDNI WG Meeting will take place on Monday 20 July from 13:00 to 15:00= in Prague. * the cut-off date for Internet-Draft is Monday 06 July (i.e. next Monday) = by UTC 23:59. See you in a few weeks. Francois & Daryl Begin forwarded message: From: IETF Agenda > Subject: IETF 93 Final Agenda Date: 27 June 2015 02:00:04 CEST To: Working Group Chairs > Cc: > Reply-To: IETF Agenda > Hello Everyone! The final agenda is now available. At this point only Area Directors can su= bmit changes in the form of a swap to agenda@ietf.org. https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/93/agenda.html https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/93/agenda.txt While this is considered the final agenda for printing, changes may be made= to the agenda up until and during the meeting. Updates will be reflected o= n the web version of the agenda. Information regarding IETF 93 in Prague can be found here: http://www.ietf.= org/meeting/93/index.html Thank you! IETF Secretariat --_000_A071CD72995B4043A5B193D53E15FBD5ciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <761ADD0B60CD0F4FA1A8DBDC810665EF@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Folks,

Note that :
* the CDNI WG Meeting will take place on Monday 20 July from 13:0= 0 to 15:00 in Prague.
* the cut-off date for Internet-Draft is Monday 06 July (i.e. next Mon= day) by UTC 23:59.

See you in a few weeks.

Francois & Daryl


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Hello Everyone!

The final agenda is now available. At this point only Area Directors can su= bmit changes in the form of a swap to agenda@ietf.org.

= https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/93/agenda.html
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/93/agenda.txt

While this is considered the final agenda for printing, changes may be made= to the agenda up until and during the meeting. Updates will be reflected o= n the web version of the agenda.

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--_000_A071CD72995B4043A5B193D53E15FBD5ciscocom_-- From nobody Thu Jul 2 03:50:54 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAFB21B318A; Thu, 2 Jul 2015 03:50:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TjUg6bowF-_1; Thu, 2 Jul 2015 03:50:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D14A41B318C; Thu, 2 Jul 2015 03:50:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.0.4.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150702105049.6704.42701.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2015 03:50:49 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: cdni@ietf.org Subject: [CDNi] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cdni-redirection-10.txt X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2015 10:50:52 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Content Delivery Networks Interconnection Working Group of the IETF. Title : Request Routing Redirection Interface for CDN Interconnection Authors : Ben Niven-Jenkins Ray van Brandenburg Filename : draft-ietf-cdni-redirection-10.txt Pages : 31 Date : 2015-07-02 Abstract: The Request Routing Interface comprises of (1) the asynchronous advertisement of footprint and capabilities by a downstream Content Delivery Network (CDN) that allows an upstream CDN to decide whether to redirect particular user requests to that downstream CDN; and (2) the synchronous operation of an upstream CDN requesting whether a downstream CDN is prepared to accept a user request and of a downstream CDN responding with how to actually redirect the user request. This document describes an interface for the latter part, i.e. the CDNI Request Routing Redirection interface. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-redirection/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cdni-redirection-10 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-cdni-redirection-10 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Thu Jul 2 03:53:55 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5B91B3193 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2015 03:53:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.116 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.116 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_NL=0.55, HOST_EQ_NL=1.545, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k5um2DvloupD for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2015 03:53:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fromintoutb.tno.nl (fromintoutb.tno.nl [134.221.1.27]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E4571B3192 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2015 03:53:50 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.15,392,1432591200"; d="scan'208";a="7485944" Received: from exc-cashub01.tsn.tno.nl (HELO mail.tno.nl) ([134.221.225.220]) by mailhost1b.tno.nl with ESMTP; 02 Jul 2015 12:53:49 +0200 Received: from EXC-MBX03.tsn.tno.nl ([fe80::e969:1300:fb9f:7e12]) by EXC-CASHUB01.tsn.tno.nl ([fe80::b855:be6:1aa8:4d0f%13]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Thu, 2 Jul 2015 12:53:48 +0200 From: "Brandenburg, R. (Ray) van" To: "cdni@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [CDNi] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cdni-redirection-10.txt Thread-Index: AQHQtLT7sYIrAVaatkWMkDCKfuAOhp3IAVXC Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 10:53:48 +0000 Message-ID: <465420E9-63CB-48BC-8997-D6AB7D5D8DD9@tno.nl> References: <20150702105049.6704.42701.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20150702105049.6704.42701.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US, nl-NL Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CDNi] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cdni-redirection-10.txt X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2015 10:53:54 -0000 Hi all, We've updated the redirection draft to align the security section with the = Logging and Control Triggers drafts with regards to the use of TLS. = As authors, we believe the current version is ready for submission to the I= ESG. = Best regards, Ray > On 02 Jul 2015, at 12:50, "internet-drafts@ietf.org" wrote: > = > = > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts direct= ories. > This draft is a work item of the Content Delivery Networks Interconnectio= n Working Group of the IETF. > = > Title : Request Routing Redirection Interface for CDN In= terconnection > Authors : Ben Niven-Jenkins > Ray van Brandenburg > Filename : draft-ietf-cdni-redirection-10.txt > Pages : 31 > Date : 2015-07-02 > = > Abstract: > The Request Routing Interface comprises of (1) the asynchronous > advertisement of footprint and capabilities by a downstream Content > Delivery Network (CDN) that allows an upstream CDN to decide whether > to redirect particular user requests to that downstream CDN; and (2) > the synchronous operation of an upstream CDN requesting whether a > downstream CDN is prepared to accept a user request and of a > downstream CDN responding with how to actually redirect the user > request. This document describes an interface for the latter part, > i.e. the CDNI Request Routing Redirection interface. > = > = > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-redirection/ > = > There's also a htmlized version available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cdni-redirection-10 > = > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-cdni-redirection-10 > = > = > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submiss= ion > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > = > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > = > _______________________________________________ > CDNi mailing list > CDNi@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cdni This message may contain information that is not intended for you. 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From nobody Thu Jul 2 06:44:54 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED4B1A8A1E; Thu, 2 Jul 2015 06:44:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id d456wajN9W0A; Thu, 2 Jul 2015 06:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC0ED1A8A6C; Thu, 2 Jul 2015 06:44:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.0.4.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150702134449.15347.17383.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2015 06:44:49 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: cdni@ietf.org Subject: [CDNi] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cdni-control-triggers-08.txt X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2015 13:44:51 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Content Delivery Networks Interconnection Working Group of the IETF. Title : CDNI Control Interface / Triggers Authors : Rob Murray Ben Niven-Jenkins Filename : draft-ietf-cdni-control-triggers-08.txt Pages : 45 Date : 2015-07-02 Abstract: This document describes the part of the CDN Interconnection Control Interface that allows a CDN to trigger activity in an interconnected CDN that is configured to deliver content on its behalf. The upstream CDN can use this mechanism to request that the downstream CDN pre-positions metadata or content, or that it invalidates or purges metadata or content. The upstream CDN can monitor the status of activity that it has triggered in the downstream CDN. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-control-triggers/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cdni-control-triggers-08 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-cdni-control-triggers-08 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Thu Jul 2 18:48:38 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B211A900A for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2015 06:49:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1NKIRCK2y3NF for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2015 06:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp-fr.alcatel-lucent.com (fr-hpgre-esg-01.alcatel-lucent.com [135.245.210.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D0A11A8F42 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2015 06:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fr711usmtp1.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (unknown [135.239.2.122]) by Websense Email Security Gateway with ESMTPS id 1B49F8E7CB4E9 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2015 13:49:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from FR711WXCHHUB01.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (fr711wxchhub01.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com [135.239.2.111]) by fr711usmtp1.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (GMO) with ESMTP id t62Dn8DU015313 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 2 Jul 2015 15:49:19 +0200 Received: from FR711WXCHMBA02.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com ([169.254.2.246]) by FR711WXCHHUB01.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.239.2.111]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Thu, 2 Jul 2015 15:49:18 +0200 From: "Murray, Rob (Rob)" To: "cdni@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [CDNi] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cdni-control-triggers-08.txt Thread-Index: AQHQtM1gJcPqJheQD0eDSgzmIo/IOZ3IIWaA Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 13:49:17 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20150702134449.15347.17383.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20150702134449.15347.17383.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.2.150604 x-originating-ip: [135.239.27.40] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 02 Jul 2015 18:48:37 -0700 Subject: Re: [CDNi] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cdni-control-triggers-08.txt X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2015 13:49:23 -0000 Hi all - another update of the triggers draft ... This one addresses some comments from Francois to align of the TLS-related text with the Logging draft and also makes RFC7525 an normative rather than informative reference. Cheers, Rob. On 02/07/2015 14:44, "CDNi on behalf of internet-drafts@ietf.org" wrote: > >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >directories. > This draft is a work item of the Content Delivery Networks >Interconnection Working Group of the IETF. > > Title : CDNI Control Interface / Triggers > Authors : Rob Murray > Ben Niven-Jenkins > Filename : draft-ietf-cdni-control-triggers-08.txt > Pages : 45 > Date : 2015-07-02 > >Abstract: > This document describes the part of the CDN Interconnection Control > Interface that allows a CDN to trigger activity in an interconnected > CDN that is configured to deliver content on its behalf. The > upstream CDN can use this mechanism to request that the downstream > CDN pre-positions metadata or content, or that it invalidates or > purges metadata or content. The upstream CDN can monitor the status > of activity that it has triggered in the downstream CDN. > > > >The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-control-triggers/ > >There's also a htmlized version available at: >https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cdni-control-triggers-08 > >A diff from the previous version is available at: >https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-cdni-control-triggers-08 > > >Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >submission >until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > >Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > >_______________________________________________ >CDNi mailing list >CDNi@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cdni From nobody Mon Jul 6 06:26:42 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BFF01A1BDF; Mon, 6 Jul 2015 06:26:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3i-IvKSWbhvW; Mon, 6 Jul 2015 06:26:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F171A1BEC; Mon, 6 Jul 2015 06:26:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.0.4.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150706132637.3253.19272.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2015 06:26:37 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: cdni@ietf.org Subject: [CDNi] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cdni-logging-19.txt X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2015 13:26:40 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Content Delivery Networks Interconnection Working Group of the IETF. Title : CDNI Logging Interface Authors : Francois Le Faucheur Gilles Bertrand Iuniana Oprescu Roy Peterkofsky Filename : draft-ietf-cdni-logging-19.txt Pages : 45 Date : 2015-07-06 Abstract: This memo specifies the Logging interface between a downstream CDN (dCDN) and an upstream CDN (uCDN) that are interconnected as per the CDN Interconnection (CDNI) framework. First, it describes a reference model for CDNI logging. Then, it specifies the CDNI Logging File format and the actual protocol for exchange of CDNI Logging Files. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-logging/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cdni-logging-19 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-cdni-logging-19 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Jul 6 10:45:59 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DF21A9028; Mon, 6 Jul 2015 10:45:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LP4J5DBFrwjT; Mon, 6 Jul 2015 10:45:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D27A1ACD61; Mon, 6 Jul 2015 10:45:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.0.4.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150706174553.22324.2980.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2015 10:45:53 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: cdni@ietf.org Subject: [CDNi] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cdni-metadata-10.txt X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2015 17:45:56 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Content Delivery Networks Interconnection Working Group of the IETF. Title : CDN Interconnection Metadata Authors : Ben Niven-Jenkins Rob Murray Matt Caulfield Kevin J. Ma Filename : draft-ietf-cdni-metadata-10.txt Pages : 55 Date : 2015-07-06 Abstract: The Content Delivery Networks Interconnection (CDNI) Metadata interface enables interconnected Content Delivery Networks (CDNs) to exchange content distribution metadata in order to enable content acquisition and delivery. The CDNI metadata associated with a piece of content provides a downstream CDN with sufficient information for the downstream CDN to service content requests on behalf of an upstream CDN. This document describes both a base set of CDNI metadata and the protocol for exchanging that metadata. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-metadata/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cdni-metadata-10 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-cdni-metadata-10 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Jul 6 13:11:30 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E00F31B31BD; Mon, 6 Jul 2015 13:11:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fKnslHzQ9hhQ; Mon, 6 Jul 2015 13:11:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailex.mailcore.me (mailex.mailcore.me [94.136.40.61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9222F1B31BC; Mon, 6 Jul 2015 13:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cpc4-cmbg17-2-0-cust814.5-4.cable.virginm.net ([86.14.227.47] helo=[192.168.0.10]) by smtp04.mailcore.me with esmtpa (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1ZCCjX-0006Hc-82; Mon, 06 Jul 2015 21:11:19 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) From: Ben Niven-Jenkins In-Reply-To: <20150706174553.22324.2980.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 21:11:16 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20150706174553.22324.2980.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: internet-drafts@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-Mailcore-Auth: 9600544 X-Mailcore-Domain: 172912 Archived-At: Cc: cdni@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CDNi] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cdni-metadata-10.txt X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2015 20:11:29 -0000 Folks, This update to the metadata document addresses some of the comments from = the apps directorate review and to align the security section language = on TLS with the wording in the other CDNI interface documents. We=E2=80=99re still working on edits to address the apps directorate = comments. Ben =20 > On 6 Jul 2015, at 18:45, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts = directories. > This draft is a work item of the Content Delivery Networks = Interconnection Working Group of the IETF. >=20 > Title : CDN Interconnection Metadata > Authors : Ben Niven-Jenkins > Rob Murray > Matt Caulfield > Kevin J. Ma > Filename : draft-ietf-cdni-metadata-10.txt > Pages : 55 > Date : 2015-07-06 >=20 > Abstract: > The Content Delivery Networks Interconnection (CDNI) Metadata > interface enables interconnected Content Delivery Networks (CDNs) to > exchange content distribution metadata in order to enable content > acquisition and delivery. The CDNI metadata associated with a piece > of content provides a downstream CDN with sufficient information for > the downstream CDN to service content requests on behalf of an > upstream CDN. This document describes both a base set of CDNI > metadata and the protocol for exchanging that metadata. >=20 >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-metadata/ >=20 > There's also a htmlized version available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cdni-metadata-10 >=20 > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-cdni-metadata-10 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > CDNi mailing list > CDNi@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cdni From nobody Mon Jul 6 14:43:54 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19611A03A0 for ; 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Mon, 6 Jul 2015 16:42:51 -0600 From: Daryl Malas To: "cdni@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [CDNi] IETF-93 agenda slot requests Thread-Index: AQHQuD0WcoSiE2YHZUy5jKC1n66EDw== Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 22:42:50 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.2.150604 x-originating-ip: [10.5.0.27] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_D1C0608D2F5A5dmalascablelabscom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [CDNi] IETF-93 agenda slot requests X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2015 22:42:55 -0000 --_000_D1C0608D2F5A5dmalascablelabscom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, We are a bit tardy on this, since the draft agenda was supposed to be submi= tted today. Please send your agenda requests to Francois and I as soon as = possible. Indicate preferred duration and speaker name. Keep in mind, our goal is to leave this meeting with submitting a LOT of dr= afts to IESG. Plan on discussing final issues and providing final updates,= if applicable. Best, Daryl (and Francois) --_000_D1C0608D2F5A5dmalascablelabscom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <3E0AD992E3B9964E9720E16F5DD198E7@cablelabs.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello all,

We are a bit tardy on this, since the draft agenda was supposed to be = submitted today.  Please send your agenda requests to Francois and I a= s soon as possible.  Indicate preferred duration and speaker name. &nb= sp;

Keep in mind, our goal is to leave this meeting with submitting a LOT = of drafts to IESG.  Plan on discussing final issues and providing fina= l updates, if applicable.

Best,

Daryl (and Francois)
--_000_D1C0608D2F5A5dmalascablelabscom_-- From nobody Tue Jul 7 02:50:46 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDC241A8762 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2015 02:50:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gQy7NMI_ojB7 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2015 02:50:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relais-inet.francetelecom.com (relais-ias245.francetelecom.com [80.12.204.245]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C89161A8776 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2015 02:50:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omfeda08.si.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.201]) by omfeda10.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id E54753746C0; Tue, 7 Jul 2015 11:50:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Exchangemail-eme3.itn.ftgroup (unknown [10.114.50.62]) by omfeda08.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id C0DD2384069; Tue, 7 Jul 2015 11:50:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from OPEXCNORM74.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::fc94:9a93:d000:681d]) by OPEXCNORM2E.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::c505:acb8:89e0:c6d6%21]) with mapi id 14.03.0235.001; Tue, 7 Jul 2015 11:50:38 +0200 From: To: Sergey Slovetsky , "cdni@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: New Version Notification for draft-slovetskiy-cdni-https-delegation-approaches-00.txt Thread-Index: AdC4NLulI8S2c/7jR4GuzTfOfyy6iAAZOq3w Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2015 09:50:37 +0000 Message-ID: <16277_1436262639_559BA0EF_16277_4078_1_CA8F2D11E63D89438948197B7788A052AF80B7@OPEXCNORM74.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> References: <8E320D5956DC0F4C86F7CEE54C34A72A28278368@eusaamb107.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: <8E320D5956DC0F4C86F7CEE54C34A72A28278368@eusaamb107.ericsson.se> Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.114.50.248] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-PMX-Version: 6.2.1.2478543, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.2107409, Antispam-Data: 2015.7.7.90617 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CDNi] New Version Notification for draft-slovetskiy-cdni-https-delegation-approaches-00.txt X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2015 09:50:45 -0000 Hello fellow IETF-ers, The irony of life makes it that I also posted a draft on the same topic of = HTTPS in interconnected CDNs, just minutes before the deadline. Pheeeew! I = think we most definitely need to talk about this in Prague and see how to p= roceed, given that there seems to be interest. I'd like to thank again Jan Seedorf for some initial comments on HTTP redir= ection and Jon Peterson for actually contributing with substantial text to = this draft. Below you will find the reference. --iuniana -----Message d'origine----- De : internet-drafts@ietf.org [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org] Envoy=E9 : = mardi 7 juillet 2015 01:49 =C0 : FIEAU Fr=E9d=E9ric IMT/OLN; OPRESCU Iunian= a IMT/OLN Objet : New Version Notification for draft-fieau-https-delivery-d= elegation-00.txt A new version of I-D, draft-fieau-https-delivery-delegation-00.txt has been successfully submitted by Iuniana Oprescu and posted to the IETF r= epository. Name: draft-fieau-https-delivery-delegation Revision: 00 Title: HTTPS and delegation of encrypted traffic between interconnected CD= Ns Document date: 2015-07-06 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 7 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-fieau-https-deli= very-delegation-00.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-fieau-https-delivery= -delegation/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-fieau-https-delivery-dele= gation-00 Abstract: This document illustrates some use cases and associated problems related to delivery of HTTPS secured traffic in the context of interconnected CDNs. A common scenario is when a uCDN is delegating the delivery of encrypted traffic to a dCDN using HTTP or DNS redirection. Some potential solutions are considered. =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20=20=20=20 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. The IETF Secretariat %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% -----Message d'origine----- De=A0: CDNi [mailto:cdni-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Sergey Slovetsky Envoy=E9=A0: lundi 6 juillet 2015 23:44 =C0=A0: cdni@ietf.org Objet=A0: Re: [CDNi] New Version Notification for draft-slovetskiy-cdni-htt= ps-delegation-approaches-00.txt Hi All, As the first step to stimulate a discussion on the "HTTPS in interconnected= CDNs" topic that has been raised by Iuniana in Dallas, I wrote a draft out= lining the basic use case, problem scope, and examples of possible solution= s. Feedback is very welcome and will be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Rgds, //Sergey -----Original Message----- From: internet-drafts@ietf.org [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org]=20 Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 5:27 PM To: Sergey Slovetsky; Sergey Slovetsky Subject: New Version Notification for draft-slovetskiy-cdni-https-delegatio= n-approaches-00.txt A new version of I-D, draft-slovetskiy-cdni-https-delegation-approaches-00.= txt has been successfully submitted by Sergey Slovetskiy and posted to the IETF= repository. Name: draft-slovetskiy-cdni-https-delegation-approaches Revision: 00 Title: Approaches to HTTPS-based Request Routing and Delegation Document date: 2015-07-06 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 2 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-slovetskiy-cdni-= https-delegation-approaches-00.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-slovetskiy-cdni-http= s-delegation-approaches/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-slovetskiy-cdni-https-del= egation-approaches-00 Abstract: This document provides a basic non exhaustive background and discusses pote= ntial approaches to the issue of correct delegation of the encrypted (TLS-based) traffic requests between CDNs in inter CDN networks and during = interactions between client UAs, CSPs, and CDNs. =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20=20=20=20 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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From nobody Tue Jul 7 03:11:48 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C50781A8829 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2015 03:11:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rxNOR2U2dgTm for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2015 03:11:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relais-inet.francetelecom.com (relais-ias92.francetelecom.com [193.251.215.92]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D9BB71A1DBD for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2015 03:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omfedm06.si.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.2]) by omfedm11.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 0492E3B47DA; Tue, 7 Jul 2015 12:11:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Exchangemail-eme2.itn.ftgroup (unknown [10.114.31.42]) by omfedm06.si.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id D570027C058; Tue, 7 Jul 2015 12:11:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from OPEXCLILM42.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::d5fd:9c7d:2ee3:39d9]) by OPEXCLILM41.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup ([fe80::c845:f762:8997:ec86%19]) with mapi id 14.03.0235.001; Tue, 7 Jul 2015 12:11:41 +0200 From: To: OPRESCU Iuniana IMT/OLN , Sergey Slovetsky , "cdni@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: New Version Notification for draft-slovetskiy-cdni-https-delegation-approaches-00.txt Thread-Index: AdC4NLulI8S2c/7jR4GuzTfOfyy6iAAZOq3wAACZgxA= Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2015 10:11:39 +0000 Message-ID: <17938_1436263902_559BA5DE_17938_811_1_cbc0b8fb-b1f1-4904-b543-f62335d7992e@OPEXCLILM41.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> References: <8E320D5956DC0F4C86F7CEE54C34A72A28278368@eusaamb107.ericsson.se> <16277_1436262639_559BA0EF_16277_4078_1_CA8F2D11E63D89438948197B7788A052AF80B7@OPEXCNORM74.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> In-Reply-To: <16277_1436262639_559BA0EF_16277_4078_1_CA8F2D11E63D89438948197B7788A052AF80B7@OPEXCNORM74.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.168.234.1] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-PMX-Version: 6.2.1.2478543, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.2107409, Antispam-Data: 2015.7.2.125417 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CDNi] New Version Notification for draft-slovetskiy-cdni-https-delegation-approaches-00.txt X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2015 10:11:48 -0000 Hello all, I'm the co-author of the draft Iuniana has mentioned. Please review it, and= don't hesitate to comment it, both on the mailing list and in Prague.=20 Looking forward to receiving your comments. Thanks in advance. We'll of course give a read to the draft posted by Sergey which seems to be= similar. We'll have to work together to take the topic further. Regards, Frederic -----Message d'origine----- De=A0: CDNi [mailto:cdni-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de iuniana.oprescu@or= ange.com Envoy=E9=A0: mardi 7 juillet 2015 11:51 =C0=A0: Sergey Slovetsky; cdni@ietf.org Objet=A0: Re: [CDNi] New Version Notification for draft-slovetskiy-cdni-htt= ps-delegation-approaches-00.txt Hello fellow IETF-ers, The irony of life makes it that I also posted a draft on the same topic of = HTTPS in interconnected CDNs, just minutes before the deadline. Pheeeew! I = think we most definitely need to talk about this in Prague and see how to p= roceed, given that there seems to be interest. I'd like to thank again Jan Seedorf for some initial comments on HTTP redir= ection and Jon Peterson for actually contributing with substantial text to = this draft. Below you will find the reference. --iuniana -----Message d'origine----- De : internet-drafts@ietf.org [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org] Envoy=E9 : = mardi 7 juillet 2015 01:49 =C0 : FIEAU Fr=E9d=E9ric IMT/OLN; OPRESCU Iunian= a IMT/OLN Objet : New Version Notification for draft-fieau-https-delivery-d= elegation-00.txt A new version of I-D, draft-fieau-https-delivery-delegation-00.txt has been successfully submitted by Iuniana Oprescu and posted to the IETF r= epository. Name: draft-fieau-https-delivery-delegation Revision: 00 Title: HTTPS and delegation of encrypted traffic between interconnected CD= Ns Document date: 2015-07-06 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 7 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-fieau-https-deli= very-delegation-00.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-fieau-https-delivery= -delegation/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-fieau-https-delivery-dele= gation-00 Abstract: This document illustrates some use cases and associated problems related to delivery of HTTPS secured traffic in the context of interconnected CDNs. A common scenario is when a uCDN is delegating the delivery of encrypted traffic to a dCDN using HTTP or DNS redirection. Some potential solutions are considered. =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20=20=20=20 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. The IETF Secretariat %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% -----Message d'origine----- De=A0: CDNi [mailto:cdni-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Sergey Slovetsky E= nvoy=E9=A0: lundi 6 juillet 2015 23:44 =C0=A0: cdni@ietf.org Objet=A0: Re: = [CDNi] New Version Notification for draft-slovetskiy-cdni-https-delegation-= approaches-00.txt Hi All, As the first step to stimulate a discussion on the "HTTPS in interconnected= CDNs" topic that has been raised by Iuniana in Dallas, I wrote a draft out= lining the basic use case, problem scope, and examples of possible solution= s. Feedback is very welcome and will be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Rgds, //Sergey -----Original Message----- From: internet-drafts@ietf.org [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org] Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 5:27 PM To: Sergey Slovetsky; Sergey Slovetsky Subject: New Version Notification for draft-slovetskiy-cdni-https-delegatio= n-approaches-00.txt A new version of I-D, draft-slovetskiy-cdni-https-delegation-approaches-00.= txt has been successfully submitted by Sergey Slovetskiy and posted to the IETF= repository. Name: draft-slovetskiy-cdni-https-delegation-approaches Revision: 00 Title: Approaches to HTTPS-based Request Routing and Delegation Document date: 2015-07-06 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 2 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-slovetskiy-cdni-= https-delegation-approaches-00.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-slovetskiy-cdni-http= s-delegation-approaches/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-slovetskiy-cdni-https-del= egation-approaches-00 Abstract: This document provides a basic non exhaustive background and discusses pote= ntial approaches to the issue of correct delegation of the encrypted (TLS-based) traffic requests between CDNs in inter CDN networks and during = interactions between client UAs, CSPs, and CDNs. =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20=20=20=20 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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From nobody Wed Jul 8 13:43:38 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68FC71A87A0 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2015 13:43:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.227 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.227 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_MODEMCABLE=0.768, HOST_EQ_MODEMCABLE=1.368, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4EVicC7QR-Yw for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2015 13:43:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ondar.cablelabs.com (ondar.cablelabs.com [192.160.73.61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD761A879F for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2015 13:43:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kyzyl.cablelabs.com (kyzyl [10.253.0.7]) by ondar.cablelabs.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t68Kha7w018966 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2015 14:43:36 -0600 Received: from exchange.cablelabs.com (10.5.0.19) by kyzyl.cablelabs.com (F-Secure/fsigk_smtp/407/kyzyl.cablelabs.com); Wed, 08 Jul 2015 14:43:35 -0600 (MDT) X-Virus-Status: clean(F-Secure/fsigk_smtp/407/kyzyl.cablelabs.com) Received: from EXCHANGE.cablelabs.com ([::1]) by EXCHANGE.cablelabs.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0224.002; Wed, 8 Jul 2015 14:43:33 -0600 From: Daryl Malas To: "'cdni@ietf.org'" Thread-Topic: [CDNi] Draft agenda for CDNI WG meeting at IETF 93 posted Thread-Index: AdC5voDWv882grNVRd+Ursi7YC4XTQ== Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 20:43:33 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.4.0.116] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_FEA80D86BEEC134D88CA45E53A0D340823EC21F9EXCHANGEcablela_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [CDNi] Draft agenda for CDNI WG meeting at IETF 93 posted X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2015 20:43:37 -0000 --_000_FEA80D86BEEC134D88CA45E53A0D340823EC21F9EXCHANGEcablela_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All, The draft agenda is now available at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/93/agenda/cdni/ Please send us any comments. Regards, Daryl & Francois --_000_FEA80D86BEEC134D88CA45E53A0D340823EC21F9EXCHANGEcablela_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

All,

 

The draft agenda is now available at:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/93/agenda/cdni/<= /o:p>

 

Please send us any comments.

 

Regards,

 

Daryl & Francois

--_000_FEA80D86BEEC134D88CA45E53A0D340823EC21F9EXCHANGEcablela_-- From nobody Fri Jul 10 10:11:02 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54FF71B2A4B for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 10:11:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.927 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.927 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, HELO_EQ_MODEMCABLE=0.768, HOST_EQ_MODEMCABLE=1.368, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FpSf3h8BvkJ5 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 10:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ondar.cablelabs.com (ondar.cablelabs.com [192.160.73.61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 873E21B2A3E for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 10:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kyzyl.cablelabs.com (kyzyl [10.253.0.7]) by ondar.cablelabs.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t6AHB0Lo014427 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 11:11:00 -0600 Received: from exchange.cablelabs.com (10.5.0.19) by kyzyl.cablelabs.com (F-Secure/fsigk_smtp/407/kyzyl.cablelabs.com); Fri, 10 Jul 2015 11:10:59 -0600 (MDT) X-Virus-Status: clean(F-Secure/fsigk_smtp/407/kyzyl.cablelabs.com) Received: from EXCHANGE.cablelabs.com ([::1]) by EXCHANGE.cablelabs.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0224.002; Fri, 10 Jul 2015 11:10:58 -0600 From: Daryl Malas To: "cdni@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [CDNi] CDNI Presentation Slides for IETF 93 Thread-Index: AQHQuzNjJsy9azha3UuVypjk3s+uFQ== Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 17:10:57 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.2.150604 x-originating-ip: [10.4.0.83] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_D1C558C22FBBCdmalascablelabscom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [CDNi] CDNI Presentation Slides for IETF 93 X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 17:11:01 -0000 --_000_D1C558C22FBBCdmalascablelabscom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All, Since, we are meeting on Monday of IETF 93, please send us your slides no l= ater than Wednesday, July 15th. We need time to review and follow-up befor= e traveling to the meeting. As usual: * send us a PDF version (ideally both a PPT and a PDF, so we can suggest ed= its with PPT and post PDF if it is ready) * include page numbers Thanks, Daryl & Francois --_000_D1C558C22FBBCdmalascablelabscom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <52ED6B83A27F7B4A996FD5538CD1F0B9@cablelabs.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All,

Since, we are meeting on Monday= of IETF 93, please send us your slides no later than Wednesday, July 15th.=  We need time to review and follow-up before traveling to the meeting= .

As usual:
* send us a PDF version (ideally both a PPT and= a PDF, so we can suggest edits with PPT and post PDF if it is ready)
* include page numbers

Thanks,

Daryl & Francois
--_000_D1C558C22FBBCdmalascablelabscom_-- From nobody Mon Jul 13 17:33:34 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA621A8895; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 17:33:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ubvwlcVbNTUv; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 17:33:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C58D01A8887; Mon, 13 Jul 2015 17:33:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Stephen Farrell" To: "The IESG" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.0.4.p3 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150714003330.8979.92892.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 17:33:30 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: draft-ietf-cdni-logging@ietf.org, cdni@ietf.org, cdni-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [CDNi] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-cdni-logging-19: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 00:33:32 -0000 Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-cdni-logging-19: Discuss When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-logging/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCUSS: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCUSS points updated for -19, I'm not seeing changes that respond to my discuss points, nor do I recall email on the topic. (Apologies if I missed some.) I'd be happy to chat whenever folks are ready. Let me preface the specific discuss points with an overall point - I do not think our job here is to force CDNs to behave well in relation to privacy. However, it is our job to provide an API that encourages and effectively supports behaving well in relation to privacy. So, that said... (1) cleared (2) 3.3: Thanks for changing from MD5->SHA256 but I think you need the format for the SHA256-Hash thing to be 64HEXDIG don't you? (3) c-ip-anonymizing: guidance is needed that IPv4 and IPv6 aren't the same here. Why isn't the same idea done for c-port and other fields? Has there been any analysis of the effectiveness of this scheme in not allowing identification or re-identification? If not, isn't that really needed if we are serious about defining an API that can protect privacy? If that was discussed on the list, please send some pointers so I can get familiar with the work during the discussion. (4) cleared (take as part of point (3) if need be) but I think you fixed it (5) I'm not clear why you need to be able to send HTTP header values or session IDs via this i/f. Why is that needed? (And it seems very dangerous, e.g. "cs(COOKIE)" could be a doosy.) (6) cleared (7) This is kind of new, but I'd like to adopt Richard's DISCUSS so that doesn't get lost and it's very related to my point (3) too and I previously noted that I supported him. So that was: "I'm concerned that the information model of this log format encourages the sharing of far more granular information than is justified by the use cases. All of the use cases in Section 2 are focused on statistical information, in which case collecting things like individual IP addresses and ports is unnecessary." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- OLD COMMENTS Below, not updated for -18, I didn't check if you took 'em on board, feel free to chat about 'em if that's useful - I'm happy to do so anyway. - I support Richard's discuss. Isn't it ironic that the dCDN's privacy (that of a company) is better supported than that of the end user (a person) - 2.2.1 - why is per-chunk always needed? - 2.2.5.3: what's "track audience" mean? - 2.2.5.4: there are more security goals in the universe - 2.2.5.4: seems like the user is the enemy, that's odd - 2.2.5.6.2: there is no "browser type header" that I know of, but there is the well-known UA string. Being specific about that is better. - 3.1: SS.S - does that imply a time granularity of 100ms? If so, please say so. - 3.4.4: cs-uri: please not that these can be privacy sensitive, though presumably less so than e.g. logged URIs on a search engine. - 3.4.4: foo-uri: do these contain fragments or not? From nobody Tue Jul 14 12:36:35 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 615401B2B69 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2015 12:36:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.927 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.927 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, HELO_EQ_MODEMCABLE=0.768, HOST_EQ_MODEMCABLE=1.368, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u1zqDH--g6t2 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2015 12:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ondar.cablelabs.com (ondar.cablelabs.com [192.160.73.61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B4C11B2B66 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2015 12:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kyzyl.cablelabs.com (kyzyl [10.253.0.7]) by ondar.cablelabs.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t6EJaWi6024216 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2015 13:36:33 -0600 Received: from exchange.cablelabs.com (10.5.0.19) by kyzyl.cablelabs.com (F-Secure/fsigk_smtp/407/kyzyl.cablelabs.com); Tue, 14 Jul 2015 13:36:32 -0600 (MDT) X-Virus-Status: clean(F-Secure/fsigk_smtp/407/kyzyl.cablelabs.com) Received: from EXCHANGE.cablelabs.com ([::1]) by EXCHANGE.cablelabs.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0224.002; Tue, 14 Jul 2015 13:36:32 -0600 From: Daryl Malas To: "cdni@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [CDNi] Re: CDNI Presentation Slides for IETF 93 Thread-Index: AQHQvmxijb4dVys0VU+VL+dcEa6Fag== Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 19:36:31 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.2.150604 x-originating-ip: [10.4.0.100] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_D1CAC0C22FFEAdmalascablelabscom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [CDNi] Re: CDNI Presentation Slides for IETF 93 X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 19:36:34 -0000 --_000_D1CAC0C22FFEAdmalascablelabscom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just a friendly reminder=85send us your slides by tomorrow. Thanks, Daryl & Francois From: CDNi > on behalf = of Daryl Malas > Date: Friday, July 10, 2015 at 11:10 AM To: "cdni@ietf.org" > Subject: [CDNi] CDNI Presentation Slides for IETF 93 All, Since, we are meeting on Monday of IETF 93, please send us your slides no l= ater than Wednesday, July 15th. We need time to review and follow-up befor= e traveling to the meeting. As usual: * send us a PDF version (ideally both a PPT and a PDF, so we can suggest ed= its with PPT and post PDF if it is ready) * include page numbers Thanks, Daryl & Francois --_000_D1CAC0C22FFEAdmalascablelabscom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: <758577B827338F40801AFF1EF2ED1D28@cablelabs.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just a friendly reminder=85send us your slides by tomorrow.

Thanks,

Daryl & Francois

From: CDNi <cdni-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Daryl Malas= <d.malas@cablelabs.com>=
Date: Friday, July 10, 2015 at 11:1= 0 AM
To: "cdni@ietf.org" <cdni@i= etf.org>
Subject: [CDNi] CDNI Presentation S= lides for IETF 93

All,

Since, we are meeting on Monday= of IETF 93, please send us your slides no later than Wednesday, July 15th.=  We need time to review and follow-up before traveling to the meeting= .

As usual:
* send us a PDF version (ideally both a PPT and= a PDF, so we can suggest edits with PPT and post PDF if it is ready)
* include page numbers

Thanks,

Daryl & Francois
 --_000_D1CAC0C22FFEAdmalascablelabscom_-- From nobody Wed Jul 15 14:34:05 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8521B2CC3 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 14:34:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.927 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.927 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, HELO_EQ_MODEMCABLE=0.768, HOST_EQ_MODEMCABLE=1.368, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RhUh9Tplha-H for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 14:34:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ondar.cablelabs.com (ondar.cablelabs.com [192.160.73.61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E8D1B2CD5 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 14:34:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kyzyl.cablelabs.com (kyzyl [10.253.0.7]) by ondar.cablelabs.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t6FLY2Up009051 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 15:34:02 -0600 Received: from exchange.cablelabs.com (10.5.0.19) by kyzyl.cablelabs.com (F-Secure/fsigk_smtp/407/kyzyl.cablelabs.com); Wed, 15 Jul 2015 15:34:01 -0600 (MDT) X-Virus-Status: clean(F-Secure/fsigk_smtp/407/kyzyl.cablelabs.com) Received: from EXCHANGE.cablelabs.com ([::1]) by EXCHANGE.cablelabs.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0224.002; Wed, 15 Jul 2015 15:33:59 -0600 From: Daryl Malas To: "cdni@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [CDNi] Re: CDNI Presentation Slides for IETF 93 Thread-Index: AQHQv0X1jOvKnuTZSUCeyRQ7nmmo9w== Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 21:33:59 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.2.150604 x-originating-ip: [10.4.0.99] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_D1CC2DCC301BEdmalascablelabscom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [CDNi] Re: CDNI Presentation Slides for IETF 93 X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 21:34:04 -0000 --_000_D1CC2DCC301BEdmalascablelabscom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable One last reminder, please send us your slides by COB, today! Thanks, Daryl & Francois From: CDNi > on behalf = of Daryl Malas > Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 1:36 PM To: "cdni@ietf.org" > Subject: [CDNi] Re: CDNI Presentation Slides for IETF 93 Just a friendly reminder=85send us your slides by tomorrow. Thanks, Daryl & Francois From: CDNi > on behalf = of Daryl Malas > Date: Friday, July 10, 2015 at 11:10 AM To: "cdni@ietf.org" > Subject: [CDNi] CDNI Presentation Slides for IETF 93 All, Since, we are meeting on Monday of IETF 93, please send us your slides no l= ater than Wednesday, July 15th. We need time to review and follow-up befor= e traveling to the meeting. As usual: * send us a PDF version (ideally both a PPT and a PDF, so we can suggest ed= its with PPT and post PDF if it is ready) * include page numbers Thanks, Daryl & Francois --_000_D1CC2DCC301BEdmalascablelabscom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: <2140C336F378B640A347377023445206@cablelabs.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
One last reminder, please send us your slides by COB, today!

Thanks,

Daryl & Francois

From: CDNi <cdni-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Daryl Malas= <d.malas@cablelabs.com>=
Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 1:3= 6 PM
To: "cdni@ietf.org" <cdni@i= etf.org>
Subject: [CDNi] Re: CDNI Presentati= on Slides for IETF 93

Just a friendly reminder=85send us your slides by tomorrow.

Thanks,

Daryl & Francois

From: CDNi <cdni-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Daryl Malas= <d.malas@cablelabs.com>=
Date: Friday, July 10, 2015 at 11:1= 0 AM
To: "cdni@ietf.org" <cdni@i= etf.org>
Subject: [CDNi] CDNI Presentation S= lides for IETF 93

All,

Since, we are meeting on Monday= of IETF 93, please send us your slides no later than Wednesday, July 15th.=  We need time to review and follow-up before traveling to the meeting= .

As usual:
* send us a PDF version (ideally both a PPT and= a PDF, so we can suggest edits with PPT and post PDF if it is ready)
* include page numbers

Thanks,

Daryl & Francois
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for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 14:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ondar.cablelabs.com (ondar.cablelabs.com [192.160.73.61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537A41A9026 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 14:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kyzyl.cablelabs.com (kyzyl [10.253.0.7]) by ondar.cablelabs.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id t6GLLWmk014031 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 15:21:32 -0600 Received: from exchange.cablelabs.com (10.5.0.19) by kyzyl.cablelabs.com (F-Secure/fsigk_smtp/407/kyzyl.cablelabs.com); Thu, 16 Jul 2015 15:21:32 -0600 (MDT) X-Virus-Status: clean(F-Secure/fsigk_smtp/407/kyzyl.cablelabs.com) Received: from EXCHANGE.cablelabs.com ([::1]) by EXCHANGE.cablelabs.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0224.002; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 15:21:29 -0600 From: Daryl Malas To: "cdni@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [CDNi] Re: CDNI Presentation Slides for IETF 93 Thread-Index: AQHQwA1hacwKTiii+kmaVMQ4xM4/nA== Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 21:21:29 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.2.150604 x-originating-ip: [10.4.0.106] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_D1CD7C51302EAdmalascablelabscom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CDNi] CDNI Presentation Slides for IETF 93 X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 21:21:34 -0000 --_000_D1CD7C51302EAdmalascablelabscom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There are a number of requested presentation slots that haven=92t submitted= their slides. Please do so ASAP! Thanks, Daryl From: CDNi > on behalf = of Daryl Malas > Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 3:33 PM To: "cdni@ietf.org" > Subject: [CDNi] Re: CDNI Presentation Slides for IETF 93 One last reminder, please send us your slides by COB, today! Thanks, Daryl & Francois From: CDNi > on behalf = of Daryl Malas > Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 1:36 PM To: "cdni@ietf.org" > Subject: [CDNi] Re: CDNI Presentation Slides for IETF 93 Just a friendly reminder=85send us your slides by tomorrow. Thanks, Daryl & Francois From: CDNi > on behalf = of Daryl Malas > Date: Friday, July 10, 2015 at 11:10 AM To: "cdni@ietf.org" > Subject: [CDNi] CDNI Presentation Slides for IETF 93 All, Since, we are meeting on Monday of IETF 93, please send us your slides no l= ater than Wednesday, July 15th. We need time to review and follow-up befor= e traveling to the meeting. As usual: * send us a PDF version (ideally both a PPT and a PDF, so we can suggest ed= its with PPT and post PDF if it is ready) * include page numbers Thanks, Daryl & Francois --_000_D1CD7C51302EAdmalascablelabscom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: <288936C8B601FD4D8C4EA537DFAE53BD@cablelabs.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There are a number of requested presentation slots that haven=92t subm= itted their slides.  Please do so ASAP!

Thanks,

Daryl

From: CDNi <cdni-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Daryl Malas= <d.malas@cablelabs.com>=
Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 3= :33 PM
To: "cdni@ietf.org" <cdni@i= etf.org>
Subject: [CDNi] Re: CDNI Presentati= on Slides for IETF 93

One last reminder, please send us your slides by COB, today!

Thanks,

Daryl & Francois

From: CDNi <cdni-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Daryl Malas= <d.malas@cablelabs.com>=
Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 1:3= 6 PM
To: "cdni@ietf.org" <cdni@i= etf.org>
Subject: [CDNi] Re: CDNI Presentati= on Slides for IETF 93

Just a friendly reminder=85send us your slides by tomorrow.

Thanks,

Daryl & Francois

From: CDNi <cdni-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Daryl Malas= <d.malas@cablelabs.com>=
Date: Friday, July 10, 2015 at 11:1= 0 AM
To: "cdni@ietf.org" <cdni@i= etf.org>
Subject: [CDNi] CDNI Presentation S= lides for IETF 93

All,

Since, we are meeting on Monday= of IETF 93, please send us your slides no later than Wednesday, July 15th.=  We need time to review and follow-up before traveling to the meeting= .

As usual:
* send us a PDF version (ideally both a PPT and= a PDF, so we can suggest edits with PPT and post PDF if it is ready)
* include page numbers

Thanks,

Daryl & Francois
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\(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 13:45:32 -0000 CDNI Folks, Just a reminder that the CDNI WG Meeting will take place in Prague on Monda= y at 1:00pm. The CDNI WG agenda is available at: https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/93/agenda/agenda-93-cdni The slidedecks are available at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/93/materials.html Slidedecks related to draft-ietf-cdni-metadata, draft-ietf-uri-signing and = draft-fieau-https-delivery-delegation will be uploaded when provided by the= presenters. Looking forwrad to a productive meeting. 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Their res= ponse is here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1413/ Cheers Francois --_000_177FE1ABAC6E4160A055D2D304C743AAciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <42F9E356ED26B94BBFAE8039F7456C45@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Folks,

MPEG-DASH have responded to the Liaision Statement sent by = Daryl. Their response is here:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1413/

Cheers

Francois
--_000_177FE1ABAC6E4160A055D2D304C743AAciscocom_-- From nobody Sat Jul 18 13:17:04 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C4D1A01CB; Sat, 18 Jul 2015 13:16:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jd5g9u4o_0sX; Sat, 18 Jul 2015 13:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vn0-x22d.google.com (mail-vn0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c0f::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9404F1A0264; Sat, 18 Jul 2015 13:16:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by vnaa140 with SMTP id a140so11522379vna.2; Sat, 18 Jul 2015 13:16:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=vMDqq4bQM/m6s+Vww0sbj1cGVVO7TxyMU+YQU5URrE8=; b=S0ScAEat1CzYObz60fbFM0WaoFheNZEPsbXfOp3ijB7YsxogHxMSLCqXaqtxOe8mc1 qbJofhLP0DO5wJ+SJR4d4T9JnwaiVw3RJf0IuCJvRHgD3rG3wSveMnvis77myEf1s53t wk6Y9fLX2rzo/4Kn1qLO9B1AtxADuJesokmiUXQlaLK1Ib66I8HU252iQMq0ZayJD1iR 86KDtSIaqTIeLsPhTT59YSFTxzezJ8vVPseGgc1Kt/orKky28Xzii6ZdxNFdosj3BUrD /NL7/q40ZAkL0GZO1iyGw9wqxbTYoaLPCcsKpg71i3WBWX2cgylSq9MbnXTWH6Jwc67T SHKw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.136.72 with SMTP id py8mr24887251vdb.86.1437250612841; Sat, 18 Jul 2015 13:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.31.63.1 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Jul 2015 13:16:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150714003330.8979.92892.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <20150714003330.8979.92892.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 22:16:52 +0200 Message-ID: From: Spencer Dawkins at IETF To: Stephen Farrell Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec519615b3b5535051b2bfc8a Archived-At: Cc: "draft-ietf-cdni-logging@ietf.org" , The IESG , "" , "cdni-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CDNi] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-cdni-logging-19: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 20:16:59 -0000 --bcaec519615b3b5535051b2bfc8a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Just FYI to the CDNI folk, I've talked with Barry, and I'll continue to be the shepherding AD for this document because I know the history. Do we need to talk this coming week? I know we'd all like to finish this draft off ... Thanks, Spencer On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 2:33 AM, Stephen Farrell wrote: > Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-cdni-logging-19: Discuss > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this > introductory paragraph, however.) > > > Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-logging/ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > DISCUSS: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > DISCUSS points updated for -19, I'm not seeing changes > that respond to my discuss points, nor do I recall email > on the topic. (Apologies if I missed some.) I'd be happy to > chat whenever folks are ready. > > Let me preface the specific discuss points with an overall > point - I do not think our job here is to force CDNs to behave > well in relation to privacy. However, it is our job to provide > an API that encourages and effectively supports behaving well > in relation to privacy. So, that said... > > (1) cleared > > (2) 3.3: Thanks for changing from MD5->SHA256 but I > think you need the format for the SHA256-Hash thing > to be 64HEXDIG don't you? > > (3) c-ip-anonymizing: guidance is needed that IPv4 and IPv6 > aren't the same here. Why isn't the same idea done for c-port > and other fields? Has there been any analysis of the > effectiveness of this scheme in not allowing identification or > re-identification? If not, isn't that really needed if we are > serious about defining an API that can protect privacy? If > that was discussed on the list, please send some pointers so I > can get familiar with the work during the discussion. > > (4) cleared (take as part of point (3) if need be) but I > think you fixed it > > (5) I'm not clear why you need to be able to send HTTP header > values or session IDs via this i/f. Why is that needed? (And > it seems very dangerous, e.g. "cs(COOKIE)" could be a doosy.) > > (6) cleared > > (7) This is kind of new, but I'd like to adopt Richard's > DISCUSS so that doesn't get lost and it's very related to > my point (3) too and I previously noted that I supported > him. So that was: > "I'm concerned that the information model of this log format encourages > the > sharing of far more granular information than is justified by the use > cases. > All of the use cases in Section 2 are focused on statistical information, > in > which case collecting things like individual IP addresses and ports is > unnecessary." > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > COMMENT: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > OLD COMMENTS Below, not updated for -18, I didn't > check if you took 'em on board, feel free to chat about > 'em if that's useful - I'm happy to do so anyway. > > - I support Richard's discuss. Isn't it ironic that the dCDN's > privacy (that of a company) is better supported than that of > the end user (a person) > > - 2.2.1 - why is per-chunk always needed? > > - 2.2.5.3: what's "track audience" mean? > > - 2.2.5.4: there are more security goals in the universe > > - 2.2.5.4: seems like the user is the enemy, that's odd > > - 2.2.5.6.2: there is no "browser type header" that I know of, > but there is the well-known UA string. Being specific about > that is better. > > - 3.1: SS.S - does that imply a time granularity of 100ms? If > so, please say so. > > - 3.4.4: cs-uri: please not that these can be privacy > sensitive, though presumably less so than e.g. logged URIs on > a search engine. > > - 3.4.4: foo-uri: do these contain fragments or not? > > > --bcaec519615b3b5535051b2bfc8a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just FYI to the CDNI folk, I've talked with Barry, and= I'll continue to be the shepherding AD for this document because I kno= w the history.

Do we need to talk this coming week? I kn= ow we'd all like to finish this draft off ...

= Thanks,

Spencer

On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 2:33 AM, Stephen= Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:
Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot = position for
draft-ietf-cdni-logging-19: Discuss

When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all
email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this
introductory paragraph, however.)


Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/s= tatement/discuss-criteria.html
for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions.


The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ie= tf-cdni-logging/



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DISCUSS:
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DISCUSS points updated for -19, I'm not seeing changes
that respond to my discuss points, nor do I recall email
on the topic. (Apologies if I missed some.) I'd be happy to
chat whenever folks are ready.

Let me preface the specific discuss points with an overall
point - I do not think our job here is to force CDNs to behave
well in relation to privacy. However, it is our job to provide
an API that encourages and effectively supports behaving well
in relation to privacy. So, that said...

(1) cleared

(2) 3.3: Thanks for changing from MD5->SHA256 but I
think you need the format for the SHA256-Hash thing
to be 64HEXDIG don't you?

(3) c-ip-anonymizing: guidance is needed that IPv4 and IPv6
aren't the same here. Why isn't the same idea done for c-port
and other fields?=C2=A0 Has there been any analysis of the
effectiveness of this scheme in not allowing identification or
re-identification? If not, isn't that really needed if we are
serious about defining an API that can protect privacy? If
that was discussed on the list, please send some pointers so I
can get familiar with the work during the discussion.

(4) cleared (take as part of point (3) if need be) but I
think you fixed it

(5) I'm not clear why you need to be able to send HTTP header
values or session IDs via this i/f. Why is that needed? (And
it seems very dangerous, e.g. "cs(COOKIE)" could be a doosy.)

(6) cleared

(7) This is kind of new, but I'd like to adopt Richard's
DISCUSS so that doesn't get lost and it's very related to
my point (3) too and I previously noted that I supported
him. So that was:
"I'm concerned that the information model of this log format encou= rages
the
sharing of far more granular information than is justified by the use
cases.
All of the use cases in Section 2 are focused on statistical information, in
which case collecting things like individual IP addresses and ports is
unnecessary."


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COMMENT:
----------------------------------------------------------------------


OLD COMMENTS Below, not updated for -18, I didn't
check if you took 'em on board, feel free to chat about
'em if that's useful=C2=A0 - I'm happy to do so anyway.

- I support Richard's discuss. Isn't it ironic that the dCDN's<= br> privacy (that of a company) is better supported than that of
the end user (a person)

- 2.2.1 - why is per-chunk always needed?

- 2.2.5.3: what's "track audience" mean?

- 2.2.5.4: there are more security goals in the universe

- 2.2.5.4: seems like the user is the enemy, that's odd

- 2.2.5.6.2: there is no "browser type header" that I know of, but there is the well-known UA string. Being specific about
that is better.

- 3.1: SS.S - does that imply a time granularity of 100ms?=C2=A0 If
so, please say so.

- 3.4.4: cs-uri: please not that these can be privacy
sensitive, though presumably less so than e.g.=C2=A0 logged URIs on
a search engine.

- 3.4.4: foo-uri: do these contain fragments or not?



--bcaec519615b3b5535051b2bfc8a-- From nobody Sat Jul 18 23:56:05 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D207B1A0275; Sat, 18 Jul 2015 23:56:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.311 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.311 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tWL7_gIxZLTv; Sat, 18 Jul 2015 23:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.scss.tcd.ie (mercury.scss.tcd.ie [134.226.56.6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D7241A0047; Sat, 18 Jul 2015 23:55:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A404BE53; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 07:55:54 +0100 (IST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at scss.tcd.ie Received: from mercury.scss.tcd.ie ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mercury.scss.tcd.ie [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qBYguO63vJRP; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 07:55:51 +0100 (IST) Received: from [31.133.180.113] (dhcp-b471.meeting.ietf.org [31.133.180.113]) by mercury.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 910E4BE38; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 07:55:51 +0100 (IST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.tcd.ie; s=mail; t=1437288951; bh=FRZX8YdIc/IH6yrjqM2lsk4ADr+ilzdb7zOk/RPIYYM=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=G4zrMOesfMOLJJS0JndfjAoLZiFbEnyLSrLjAp3ICohFx60xW6KxG7Edmw/kfVMKV xejgCTECGGkznErjaq0jvm0rku8jgvE7SxXRNCf43+2ql29ypVpbo3YVvqG2FF6gzt Ts1VUGXfJLCp6/r/7qEVO4P5+2Ec7pNcJvE2hn2U= Message-ID: <55AB49F5.7040901@cs.tcd.ie> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 07:55:49 +0100 From: Stephen Farrell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Spencer Dawkins at IETF References: <20150714003330.8979.92892.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: OpenPGP: id=D66EA7906F0B897FB2E97D582F3C8736805F8DA2; url= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: "draft-ietf-cdni-logging@ietf.org" , The IESG , "" , "cdni-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CDNi] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-cdni-logging-19: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 06:56:01 -0000 They already mailed me and I arranged to meet 'em Monday for lunch. I do agree a chat would be good. S. On 18/07/15 21:16, Spencer Dawkins at IETF wrote: > Just FYI to the CDNI folk, I've talked with Barry, and I'll continue to be > the shepherding AD for this document because I know the history. > > Do we need to talk this coming week? I know we'd all like to finish this > draft off ... > > Thanks, > > Spencer > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 2:33 AM, Stephen Farrell > wrote: > >> Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position for >> draft-ietf-cdni-logging-19: Discuss >> >> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all >> email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this >> introductory paragraph, however.) >> >> >> Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html >> for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. >> >> >> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-logging/ >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> DISCUSS: >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> DISCUSS points updated for -19, I'm not seeing changes >> that respond to my discuss points, nor do I recall email >> on the topic. (Apologies if I missed some.) I'd be happy to >> chat whenever folks are ready. >> >> Let me preface the specific discuss points with an overall >> point - I do not think our job here is to force CDNs to behave >> well in relation to privacy. However, it is our job to provide >> an API that encourages and effectively supports behaving well >> in relation to privacy. So, that said... >> >> (1) cleared >> >> (2) 3.3: Thanks for changing from MD5->SHA256 but I >> think you need the format for the SHA256-Hash thing >> to be 64HEXDIG don't you? >> >> (3) c-ip-anonymizing: guidance is needed that IPv4 and IPv6 >> aren't the same here. Why isn't the same idea done for c-port >> and other fields? Has there been any analysis of the >> effectiveness of this scheme in not allowing identification or >> re-identification? If not, isn't that really needed if we are >> serious about defining an API that can protect privacy? If >> that was discussed on the list, please send some pointers so I >> can get familiar with the work during the discussion. >> >> (4) cleared (take as part of point (3) if need be) but I >> think you fixed it >> >> (5) I'm not clear why you need to be able to send HTTP header >> values or session IDs via this i/f. Why is that needed? (And >> it seems very dangerous, e.g. "cs(COOKIE)" could be a doosy.) >> >> (6) cleared >> >> (7) This is kind of new, but I'd like to adopt Richard's >> DISCUSS so that doesn't get lost and it's very related to >> my point (3) too and I previously noted that I supported >> him. So that was: >> "I'm concerned that the information model of this log format encourages >> the >> sharing of far more granular information than is justified by the use >> cases. >> All of the use cases in Section 2 are focused on statistical information, >> in >> which case collecting things like individual IP addresses and ports is >> unnecessary." >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> COMMENT: >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> OLD COMMENTS Below, not updated for -18, I didn't >> check if you took 'em on board, feel free to chat about >> 'em if that's useful - I'm happy to do so anyway. >> >> - I support Richard's discuss. Isn't it ironic that the dCDN's >> privacy (that of a company) is better supported than that of >> the end user (a person) >> >> - 2.2.1 - why is per-chunk always needed? >> >> - 2.2.5.3: what's "track audience" mean? >> >> - 2.2.5.4: there are more security goals in the universe >> >> - 2.2.5.4: seems like the user is the enemy, that's odd >> >> - 2.2.5.6.2: there is no "browser type header" that I know of, >> but there is the well-known UA string. Being specific about >> that is better. >> >> - 3.1: SS.S - does that imply a time granularity of 100ms? If >> so, please say so. >> >> - 3.4.4: cs-uri: please not that these can be privacy >> sensitive, though presumably less so than e.g. logged URIs on >> a search engine. >> >> - 3.4.4: foo-uri: do these contain fragments or not? >> >> >> > From nobody Sun Jul 19 08:47:22 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D788A1A88AE; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 08:47:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.51 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.51 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ozVK2lJ_UcF7; 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--_000_2779C9F0771F974CAD742BAE6D9904FE99E73FC3PALLENEofficehd_-- From nobody Mon Jul 20 00:45:35 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E10F1A01A9; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 00:45:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jk9xyGpE9E9n; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 00:45:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E198A1A0178; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 00:45:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.0.4.p3 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150720074520.10845.57328.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 00:45:20 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: cdni@ietf.org Subject: [CDNi] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cdni-redirection-11.txt X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 07:45:27 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Content Delivery Networks Interconnection Working Group of the IETF. Title : Request Routing Redirection Interface for CDN Interconnection Authors : Ben Niven-Jenkins Ray van Brandenburg Filename : draft-ietf-cdni-redirection-11.txt Pages : 32 Date : 2015-07-20 Abstract: The Request Routing Interface comprises of (1) the asynchronous advertisement of footprint and capabilities by a downstream Content Delivery Network (CDN) that allows an upstream CDN to decide whether to redirect particular user requests to that downstream CDN; and (2) the synchronous operation of an upstream CDN requesting whether a downstream CDN is prepared to accept a user request and of a downstream CDN responding with how to actually redirect the user request. This document describes an interface for the latter part, i.e. the CDNI Request Routing Redirection interface. 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Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Francois Le Faucheur (flefauch)" References: <20150714003330.8979.92892.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <131589C9-D149-4769-8316-CA2DB8923015@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <131589C9-D149-4769-8316-CA2DB8923015@cisco.com> OpenPGP: id=D66EA7906F0B897FB2E97D582F3C8736805F8DA2; url= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: "draft-ietf-cdni-logging@ietf.org" , The IESG , "cdni@ietf.org" , "cdni-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CDNi] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-cdni-logging-19: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:57:46 -0000 Hiya, On 21/07/15 14:37, Francois Le Faucheur (flefauch) wrote: > * we now need the security/privacy experts to be identifed so the > work can start (Stephen, the ball is in your camp). In-work. I think I have one willing person, and am waiting on an ana 2nd. > > Regarding 2): * When prompted, noone in the room expressed interest > in working on agregated logs at this stage. Concerns were expressed > that Aggregated Log would make analytics limited/useless. Yes, I get that concern and believe it is the major reason why the WG aren't interested. Is that fair? > Concerns > were experessed that this may not solve the privacy concerns anyway. Huh? Of course nothing will "solve" privacy concerns in a 100% pure manner, but that is not what's suggested. It seems entirely clear to me at least that reporting information about batches of 1000's of user is far more efficient and privacy-friendly. It would require transmission and storage of far far less data that is far far less sensitive. (The potentially largest cost of that data is that one ends up storing it, since it may leak.) > Some expressed opinion that privacy concerns were not justified > (mostly because this information is routinely gathered today and > exchanged between CDNs and Content Providers), Well, two things. First the fact that something privacy unfriendly is done today just does not logically mean that doing that tomorrow is ok. When changes are needed, sometimes those have impacts. And secondly, if CDNI has value, it will extend the reach and availability of this data, and thus the logging done will have broader scope and be more privacy sensitive, so standardising this is in fact not at all the same as what is done today in the absence of CDNI. > some expressed opinion > that privacy concerns cannot be addressed until they are described > better. Honestly? Sorry but that seems utterly unbelievable. The potential privacy issues with defining an interface that allows for even more centralisation of HTTP logs should be blindingly obvious. Are we saying that there are some CDNI participants who in fact don't care about the privacy impact of this data, because they make money from serving that data? If so, then I think it would be better to say just that. Cheers, S. From nobody Tue Jul 21 06:59:17 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3F071B2E16; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 06:59:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.311 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.311 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q9Mk5NgBDzRq; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 06:59:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.scss.tcd.ie (mercury.scss.tcd.ie [134.226.56.6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DCA771B2E11; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 06:59:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id A693FBE38; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 14:59:10 +0100 (IST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at scss.tcd.ie Received: from mercury.scss.tcd.ie ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mercury.scss.tcd.ie [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qeSvM8yt4RdP; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 14:59:09 +0100 (IST) Received: from [31.133.179.222] (dhcp-b3de.meeting.ietf.org [31.133.179.222]) by mercury.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6E5A4BDF9; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 14:58:58 +0100 (IST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.tcd.ie; s=mail; t=1437487138; bh=4U9nIrPLUwlTcOGlaUuPpqhBv3hPcJRIjdl8o3xmzcI=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=Dy8f+4yK6j7LyK8UC2pSCSIMxs4LfpFxVaD/CuqR1wYroNjLyBe6awwsMCx8D2Mk2 aRsViS1CTXJUhOj0SjR/c89phSk/bvzl8csAh/Jl0yWVkGUmp45LN1xNBTz35jz95J 6qcP0UCP74ulmie64ei32prwB+HGTVx5pTtD25Ok= Message-ID: <55AE5021.1010200@cs.tcd.ie> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 14:58:57 +0100 From: Stephen Farrell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Francois Le Faucheur (flefauch)" References: <20150714003330.8979.92892.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <131589C9-D149-4769-8316-CA2DB8923015@cisco.com> <55AE4FD3.9050704@cs.tcd.ie> In-Reply-To: <55AE4FD3.9050704@cs.tcd.ie> OpenPGP: id=D66EA7906F0B897FB2E97D582F3C8736805F8DA2; url= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: "cdni-chairs@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-cdni-logging@ietf.org" , "cdni@ietf.org" , The IESG Subject: Re: [CDNi] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-cdni-logging-19: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:59:13 -0000 On 21/07/15 14:57, Stephen Farrell wrote: > In-work. I think I have one willing person, and am waiting on > an ana 2nd. > Sorry, typo. I'm waiting on an answer from a 2nd. 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References: <20150714003330.8979.92892.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <131589C9-D149-4769-8316-CA2DB8923015@cisco.com> <55AE4FD3.9050704@cs.tcd.ie> In-Reply-To: <55AE4FD3.9050704@cs.tcd.ie> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.11] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrNLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyuXRPiO6fb2tDDY4s4rE40vqL0eLp7D+s Fnf3nGKx+LfgNJPFjD8TmS2m773G7sDmMeX3RlaPtd1X2TyWLPnJFMAcxWWTkpqTWZZapG+X wJVxtGsTS8EivYrvv+6zNDD2qXYxcnJICJhInL2whBHCFpO4cG89WxcjF4eQwFFGiZe/5jOD JIQEljNKnNqtCWKzCWhJPP76lwnEFhHIlDg9+ywLSAOzwE5GiTNbZrOAJISBEs+2/2OEKMqS WLChEarBSeL20ZlgNouAqsSqy5/BFvAK+Eq0vJjNBLH5MKPElrkXwQZxCmhKLPo+F2wQI9B5 30+tAWtmFhCXuPVkPhPE2QISS/acZ4awRSVePv7HCmErSXz8PZ8dol5HYsHuT2wQtrbEsoWv oRYLSpyc+YRlAqPYLCRjZyFpmYWkZRaSlgWMLKsYOUqLU8ty040MNzECY+uYBJvjDsYFnywP MQpwMCrx8CqYrw0VYk0sK67MPcQozcGiJM4r7ZcXKiSQnliSmp2aWpBaFF9UmpNafIiRiYNT qoHR6cOH/NP3pVdu3bLa+OuTydlvirQ15izaZLo++GzshRs33+xkP764JN7jzLH+hMz+v+9Z Pgi/Vba3+DTh22WmNtZ1f44ufqp22nTTsfD+RP4bhQ+V/EtNCv8fZc9vWyy83qBPpuz+huk8 nsyvHk0udJBJ+zWhyCS7Wije8OiUHXtnlkU43Wg5pMRSnJFoqMVcVJwIAOGbRVCOAgAA Archived-At: Cc: "draft-ietf-cdni-logging@ietf.org" , The IESG , "cdni@ietf.org" , "cdni-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CDNi] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-cdni-logging-19: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 15:02:24 -0000 Hi Stephen, > Well, two things. First the fact that something privacy unfriendly > is done today just does not logically mean that doing that tomorrow > is ok. When changes are needed, sometimes those have impacts. And > secondly, if CDNI has value, it will extend the reach and availability > of this data, and thus the logging done will have broader scope and > be more privacy sensitive, so standardising this is in fact not at > all the same as what is done today in the absence of CDNI. ... > Honestly? Sorry but that seems utterly unbelievable. The potential > privacy issues with defining an interface that allows for even more > centralisation of HTTP logs should be blindingly obvious. I think one of the questions was: Assuming the request came to the uCDN, and the uCDN redirects the request t= o a dCDN, then both the uCDN and dCDN have received the request from the cl= ient, and both have the same private information that those requests contai= n. In that case, information shared back in the log is information that bo= th CDNs already have. Given that, I have a couple of clarifying questions: 1. Is the concern that if the LI is compromised, then a third-party may get= that information? 2. Or is the concern than the CDNs may be storing this information at all? The former seems like it could be addressed without aggregation (e.g., usin= g anonymization)? Addressing the latter seems a bit more ambitious; requiring aggregation doe= s not necessarily change how/what data is stored in the CDN? > Are we saying that there are some CDNI participants who in fact > don't care about the privacy impact of this data, because they > make money from serving that data? If so, then I think it would be > better to say just that. I'm sure there are people who make money by parsing the data; the data has = valuable (non-nefarious) uses. However, I think the question was more alon= g the lines of the two questions raised above, e.g.: 1. If the transmission of the data is encrypted and authenticated, or even = if the data itself was independently encrypted, does/would that suffice? I= f so, then would aggregation still be necessary? Furthermore, if the data = was better anonymized, would that make aggregation unnecessary? Or is aggr= egation always necessary to provide maximum privacy? 2. Designing an aggregation scheme that still supports all of the various a= nalytics scenarios users have/want today is likely a rather large task. Ta= king more time to design a better protocol is not necessarily a bad thing, = but, time is money, even if CDN log data is not. ;) I think it will be helpful once we have the privacy experts input into the = design team, so that we can better understand what the exact issues are tha= t we need to address, and the actual value of the proposed solutions. thanx. -- Kevin J. Ma > -----Original Message----- > From: CDNi [mailto:cdni-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Farrell > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 9:58 AM > To: Francois Le Faucheur (flefauch) > Cc: draft-ietf-cdni-logging@ietf.org; The IESG; cdni@ietf.org; cdni- > chairs@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [CDNi] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-cdni-logging- > 19: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) >=20 >=20 > Hiya, >=20 > On 21/07/15 14:37, Francois Le Faucheur (flefauch) wrote: > > * we now need the security/privacy experts to be identifed so the > > work can start (Stephen, the ball is in your camp). >=20 > In-work. I think I have one willing person, and am waiting on > an ana 2nd. >=20 > > > > Regarding 2): * When prompted, noone in the room expressed interest > > in working on agregated logs at this stage. Concerns were expressed > > that Aggregated Log would make analytics limited/useless. >=20 > Yes, I get that concern and believe it is the major reason why the > WG aren't interested. Is that fair? >=20 > > Concerns > > were experessed that this may not solve the privacy concerns anyway. >=20 > Huh? Of course nothing will "solve" privacy concerns in a 100% > pure manner, but that is not what's suggested. It seems entirely > clear to me at least that reporting information about batches > of 1000's of user is far more efficient and privacy-friendly. It > would require transmission and storage of far far less data that > is far far less sensitive. (The potentially largest cost of that > data is that one ends up storing it, since it may leak.) >=20 > > Some expressed opinion that privacy concerns were not justified > > (mostly because this information is routinely gathered today and > > exchanged between CDNs and Content Providers), >=20 > Well, two things. First the fact that something privacy unfriendly > is done today just does not logically mean that doing that tomorrow > is ok. When changes are needed, sometimes those have impacts. And > secondly, if CDNI has value, it will extend the reach and availability > of this data, and thus the logging done will have broader scope and > be more privacy sensitive, so standardising this is in fact not at > all the same as what is done today in the absence of CDNI. >=20 > > some expressed opinion > > that privacy concerns cannot be addressed until they are described > > better. >=20 > Honestly? Sorry but that seems utterly unbelievable. The potential > privacy issues with defining an interface that allows for even more > centralisation of HTTP logs should be blindingly obvious. >=20 > Are we saying that there are some CDNI participants who in fact > don't care about the privacy impact of this data, because they > make money from serving that data? If so, then I think it would be > better to say just that. >=20 > Cheers, > S. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > CDNi mailing list > CDNi@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cdni From nobody Tue Jul 21 10:15:35 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FEBD1A00BE for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 10:15:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J7IN_sjojKlN for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 10:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailex.mailcore.me (mailex.mailcore.me [94.136.40.144]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92971A0030 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 10:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [31.133.139.178] (helo=dhcp-89b2.meeting.ietf.org) by smtp04.mailcore.me with esmtpa (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHb8a-0005sl-KB; Tue, 21 Jul 2015 18:15:28 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) From: Ben Niven-Jenkins In-Reply-To: <3B59393D-7FEA-4564-859E-95B8D92C1427@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 18:15:26 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <44DA2B83-0106-4DA7-9115-9B69C8B46362@niven-jenkins.co.uk> References: <20150706174553.22324.2980.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <3B59393D-7FEA-4564-859E-95B8D92C1427@cisco.com> To: "Francois Le Faucheur (flefauch)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-Mailcore-Auth: 9600544 X-Mailcore-Domain: 172912 Archived-At: Cc: "cdni@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [CDNi] Aligning security/TLS text in draft-ietf-cdni-metadata-10.txt X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 17:15:33 -0000 Thank Francois, I=E2=80=99ve incorporated your edits into my working = copy of -11 so they=E2=80=99ll be included when we publish a new rev. = Ben > On 21 Jul 2015, at 15:11, Francois Le Faucheur (flefauch) = wrote: >=20 > Ben and all, >=20 >> On 6 Jul 2015, at 22:11, Ben Niven-Jenkins = wrote: >>=20 >> Folks, >>=20 >> This update to the metadata document addresses some of the comments = from the apps directorate review and to align the security section = language on TLS with the wording in the other CDNI interface documents. >=20 > Good job. There is only one minor last alignment to incorporate: >=20 > OLD: > " > o The dCDN and uCDN to authenticate each other (to ensure they are > transmitting/receiving CDNI Metadata requests & responses from an > authenticated CDN). >=20 > o CDNI Metadata interface requests and responses to be transmitted > with confidentiality. >=20 > o The integrity of the CDNI Metadata interface requests and > responses to be protected during the exchange. > =E2=80=9C > NEW: > " > o The dCDN and uCDN to authenticate each other=20 >=20 > and, once they have mutually authenticated each other, it allows: >=20 > o the dCDN and uCDN to authorize each other (to ensure they are > transmitting/receiving CDNI Metadata requests & responses to/from = an authorized CDN) >=20 > o CDNI Metadata interface requests and responses to be transmitted > with confidentiality. >=20 > o The integrity of the CDNI Metadata interface requests and > responses to be protected during the exchange. > =E2=80=9C >=20 > Please incorporate at your convenience in the next rev. >=20 > Thanks >=20 > Francois >=20 >=20 >>=20 >> We=E2=80=99re still working on edits to address the apps directorate = comments. >>=20 >> Ben >>=20 >>> On 6 Jul 2015, at 18:45, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts = directories. >>> This draft is a work item of the Content Delivery Networks = Interconnection Working Group of the IETF. >>>=20 >>> Title : CDN Interconnection Metadata >>> Authors : Ben Niven-Jenkins >>> Rob Murray >>> Matt Caulfield >>> Kevin J. Ma >>> Filename : draft-ietf-cdni-metadata-10.txt >>> Pages : 55 >>> Date : 2015-07-06 >>>=20 >>> Abstract: >>> The Content Delivery Networks Interconnection (CDNI) Metadata >>> interface enables interconnected Content Delivery Networks (CDNs) to >>> exchange content distribution metadata in order to enable content >>> acquisition and delivery. The CDNI metadata associated with a piece >>> of content provides a downstream CDN with sufficient information for >>> the downstream CDN to service content requests on behalf of an >>> upstream CDN. This document describes both a base set of CDNI >>> metadata and the protocol for exchanging that metadata. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-metadata/ >>>=20 >>> There's also a htmlized version available at: >>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cdni-metadata-10 >>>=20 >>> A diff from the previous version is available at: >>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-cdni-metadata-10 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission >>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >>>=20 >>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CDNi mailing list >>> CDNi@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cdni >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> CDNi mailing list >> CDNi@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cdni >=20 From nobody Wed Jul 22 08:04:53 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFDCB1A0019 for ; 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Wed, 22 Jul 2015 17:04:49 +0200 (CEST) X-ENC: Last-Hop-TLS-encrypted X-ENC: Last-Hop-TLS-encrypted Received: from METHONE.office.hd (methone.office.hd [192.168.24.54]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailer1.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E92B10A335 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 17:04:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from HYDRA.office.hd ([169.254.4.41]) by METHONE.office.hd ([192.168.24.54]) with mapi id 14.03.0210.002; Wed, 22 Jul 2015 17:03:37 +0200 From: Jan Seedorf To: "cdni@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Notes from Side Meeting on Media Type / registry discussion today here at IETF93 Thread-Index: AdDEjr3Z2OaVDIi7SqasslKieGoEWw== Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 15:03:37 +0000 Message-ID: <2779C9F0771F974CAD742BAE6D9904FE99E88F87@Hydra.office.hd> Accept-Language: de-DE, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.7.0.199] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [CDNi] Notes from Side Meeting on Media Type / registry discussion today here at IETF93 X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 15:04:53 -0000 Attendees: Jon, Iuniana, Jan, Francois, Daryl, Ben, Rob, Kevin Agreement on: -- there will be one single Media Type for CDNI -- we will have a separate doc defining this media type, Kevin will write i= t soon -- single-level parameter hierarchy for the Media Type -- policy for new parameters will be expert review, instructions to expert = say review must be based on a spec, must say for what interface -- One can look at Rfc 3745 as example, Rfc 6838 defines Media Type registr= ation - Jan From nobody Wed Jul 22 08:05:54 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C0B1A000A for ; 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charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear all, the full recording (synchronized video, audio, slides and jabber room) of the CDNI WG session at IETF 93 is available at the following URL: http://ietf93.conf.meetecho.com/index.php/Recorded_Sessions#CDNI In case of problems with the playout, just drop an e-mail to ietf-support@meetecho.com. 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(PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7891B2D8B; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 06:44:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.1.0.p3 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150727134444.16225.57310.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 06:44:44 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: cdni@ietf.org Subject: [CDNi] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cdni-metadata-11.txt X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:44:47 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Content Delivery Networks Interconnection Working Group of the IETF. Title : CDN Interconnection Metadata Authors : Ben Niven-Jenkins Rob Murray Matt Caulfield Kevin J. Ma Filename : draft-ietf-cdni-metadata-11.txt Pages : 60 Date : 2015-07-27 Abstract: The Content Delivery Networks Interconnection (CDNI) metadata interface enables interconnected Content Delivery Networks (CDNs) to exchange content distribution metadata in order to enable content acquisition and delivery. The CDNI metadata associated with a piece of content provides a downstream CDN with sufficient information for the downstream CDN to service content requests on behalf of an upstream CDN. This document describes both a base set of CDNI metadata and the protocol for exchanging that metadata. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-metadata/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cdni-metadata-11 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-cdni-metadata-11 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Jul 27 06:48:33 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CDFF1B2D93 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 06:48:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id w0sQKn4ZKqzU for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 06:48:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailex.mailcore.me (mailex.mailcore.me [94.136.40.145]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52D281B2D88 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 06:48:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host4.velocix.com ([81.134.152.4] helo=[172.18.10.205]) by smtp04.mailcore.me with esmtpa (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1ZJilY-0008Fk-ES for cdni@ietf.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2015 14:48:28 +0100 From: Ben Niven-Jenkins Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_641FE361-4E94-4480-BE30-37BAED3BE9A2" Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 14:48:35 +0100 References: <20150727134444.16225.57310.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: cdni@ietf.org Message-Id: <4A36F8B2-0E55-4BA1-8932-A31872A56CB9@niven-jenkins.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-Mailcore-Auth: 9600544 X-Mailcore-Domain: 172912 Archived-At: Subject: [CDNi] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-cdni-metadata-11.txt X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:48:33 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_641FE361-4E94-4480-BE30-37BAED3BE9A2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Colleagues, FYI this update to the metadata document should cover all the comments = received as part of the apps directorate review. There is still some more work to do on the document before it is ready = for WGLC, most of which is reflecting the agreement in Prague last week = to change from multiple Media Types to a single Media Type with a = payload type parameter, but there are a couple of other bits & pieces = that need doing before WGLC too. Ben (on behalf of the authors). > Begin forwarded message: >=20 > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > Subject: [CDNi] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cdni-metadata-11.txt > Date: 27 July 2015 14:44:44 BST > To: > Cc: cdni@ietf.org >=20 >=20 > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts = directories. > This draft is a work item of the Content Delivery Networks = Interconnection Working Group of the IETF. >=20 > Title : CDN Interconnection Metadata > Authors : Ben Niven-Jenkins > Rob Murray > Matt Caulfield > Kevin J. Ma > Filename : draft-ietf-cdni-metadata-11.txt > Pages : 60 > Date : 2015-07-27 >=20 > Abstract: > The Content Delivery Networks Interconnection (CDNI) metadata > interface enables interconnected Content Delivery Networks (CDNs) to > exchange content distribution metadata in order to enable content > acquisition and delivery. The CDNI metadata associated with a piece > of content provides a downstream CDN with sufficient information for > the downstream CDN to service content requests on behalf of an > upstream CDN. This document describes both a base set of CDNI > metadata and the protocol for exchanging that metadata. >=20 >=20 >=20 > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-metadata/ >=20 > There's also a htmlized version available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cdni-metadata-11 >=20 > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-cdni-metadata-11 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >=20 > _______________________________________________ > CDNi mailing list > CDNi@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cdni --Apple-Mail=_641FE361-4E94-4480-BE30-37BAED3BE9A2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Colleagues,

FYI this update to the metadata document should cover all the = comments received as part of the apps directorate review.

There is still some more = work to do on the document before it is ready for WGLC, most of which is = reflecting the agreement in Prague last week to change from multiple = Media Types to a single Media Type with a payload type parameter, but = there are a couple of other bits & pieces that need doing before = WGLC too.

Ben = (on behalf of the authors).

Begin forwarded = message:

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A New Internet-Draft is = available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
= This draft is a work item of the Content Delivery Networks = Interconnection Working Group of the IETF.

=        Title =           : CDN = Interconnection Metadata
=        Authors =         : Ben Niven-Jenkins
=             &n= bsp;           &nbs= p;Rob Murray
=             &n= bsp;           &nbs= p;Matt Caulfield
=             &n= bsp;           &nbs= p;Kevin J. Ma
Filename =        : = draft-ietf-cdni-metadata-11.txt
Pages =           : 60
= Date =            : = 2015-07-27

Abstract:
=   The Content Delivery Networks Interconnection (CDNI) = metadata
  interface enables interconnected = Content Delivery Networks (CDNs) to
  exchange = content distribution metadata in order to enable content
=   acquisition and delivery.  The CDNI metadata associated = with a piece
  of content provides a downstream = CDN with sufficient information for
  the = downstream CDN to service content requests on behalf of an
=   upstream CDN.  This document describes both a base set = of CDNI
  metadata and the protocol for = exchanging that metadata.



The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-metadata/<= br class=3D"">
There's also a htmlized version available = at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cdni-metadata-11

A diff from the previous version is available = at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-cdni-metadata-11=


Please note that it may = take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
until = the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

Internet-Drafts are also available by = anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/

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= --Apple-Mail=_641FE361-4E94-4480-BE30-37BAED3BE9A2-- From nobody Tue Jul 28 14:50:46 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD06B1B324A for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 14:50:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.587 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.587 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jKuJFgig7-so for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 14:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id F3BFE1B3193 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 14:50:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 68057 invoked by uid 99); 28 Jul 2015 21:50:42 -0000 Received: from mail-relay.apache.org (HELO mail-relay.apache.org) (140.211.11.15) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 21:50:42 +0000 Received: from mail-io0-f175.google.com (mail-io0-f175.google.com [209.85.223.175]) by mail-relay.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mail-relay.apache.org) with ESMTPSA id 9DA951A0046 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 21:50:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ioeg141 with SMTP id g141so1918632ioe.3 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 14:50:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.107.132.154 with SMTP id o26mr58674961ioi.3.1438120241965; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 14:50:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20150608172817.12228.99962.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20150608172817.12228.99962.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Phil Sorber Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 21:50:32 +0000 Message-ID: To: cdni@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113f27822ab3b7051bf67625 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CDNi] IPR Disclosure Koninklijke KPN N.V.'s Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-cdni-uri-signing X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 21:50:45 -0000 --001a113f27822ab3b7051bf67625 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 2:19 PM IETF Secretariat wrote: > Dear Kent Leung, Francois Le Faucheur, Ray van Brandenburg, Bill Downey, > Michel Fisher: > > > An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled "URI > Signing for CDN Interconnection (CDNI)" (draft-ietf-cdni-uri-signing) was > submitted to the IETF Secretariat on and has been posted on the "IETF > Page of > Intellectual Property Rights Disclosures" > (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2603/). The title of the IPR disclosure > is > "Koninklijke KPN N.V.'s Statement about IPR related to > draft-ietf-cdni-uri-signing" > > > Thank you > > IETF Secretariat > > _______________________________________________ > CDNi mailing list > CDNi@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cdni I was asked to look into this at the WG meeting at IETF 93. I want to start off by saying I am not a lawyer and have little experience with patents, but I do work on a CDN and have implemented a plugin similar to this draft. As far as I can tell, it seems this patent conflicts with Section 5.4 of version 04 of the draft ( https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cdni-uri-signing-04#section-5.4), the chaining of signed tokens. Some of the other additions to the 04 version of the draft, for example the path pattern, are there to support the chained tokens, but do not seem to infringe on the patent. After the WG meeting I spoke with Ray and some others in the hallway about how we could approach this. I think we'd like to try to come up with an alternative to the chaining that is covered in the patent, if at all possible. If not, perhaps we could retain all the other aspects of the segmented video support as-is, but do the chaining in a separate document. Thanks. --001a113f27822ab3b7051bf67625 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Mon, Jun 8,= 2015 at 2:19 PM IETF Secretariat <= ietf-ipr@ietf.org> wrote:
De= ar Kent Leung, Francois Le Faucheur, Ray van Brandenburg, Bill Downey, Mich= el Fisher:


An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled "URI Signing for CDN Interconnection (CDNI)" (draft-ietf-cdni-uri-signing) = was
submitted to the IETF Secretariat on=C2=A0 and has been posted on the "= ;IETF Page of
Intellectual Property Rights Disclosures"
(https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2603/). The title of the= IPR disclosure is
"Koninklijke KPN N.V.'s Statement about IPR related to
draft-ietf-cdni-uri-signing"


Thank you

IETF Secretariat

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I was asked to look into this at the WG meeting at IET= F 93. I want to start off by saying I am not a lawyer and have little exper= ience with patents, but I do work on a CDN and have implemented a plugin si= milar to this draft.

--001a113f27822ab3b7051bf67625-- From nobody Wed Jul 29 07:36:57 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 917CF1A8742 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2015 07:36:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5l_nut2-PHNb for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2015 07:36:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usevmg21.ericsson.net (usevmg21.ericsson.net [198.24.6.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2EECD1A87A3 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2015 07:36:31 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c6180641-f79556d0000002c8-8e-55b87c86b579 Received: from EUSAAHC003.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [147.117.188.81]) by usevmg21.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 0C.B1.00712.68C78B55; Wed, 29 Jul 2015 09:11:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from EUSAAMB103.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.120]) by EUSAAHC003.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.81]) with mapi id 14.03.0210.002; Wed, 29 Jul 2015 10:36:24 -0400 From: Kevin Ma J To: Jan Seedorf , "cdni@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Notes from Side Meeting on Media Type / registry discussion today here at IETF93 Thread-Index: AdDEjr3Z2OaVDIi7SqasslKieGoEWwFfHFAQ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 14:36:24 +0000 Message-ID: References: <2779C9F0771F974CAD742BAE6D9904FE99E88F87@Hydra.office.hd> In-Reply-To: <2779C9F0771F974CAD742BAE6D9904FE99E88F87@Hydra.office.hd> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.11] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFrrCLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyuXRPoG5bzY5Qg/bHUhZPZ/9htehZsJTR gcljyZKfTB4zjr1kD2CK4rJJSc3JLEst0rdL4MroalnCVtDIXzHn5k62BsZeni5GTg4JAROJ DV/2skPYYhIX7q1n62Lk4hASOMoocezILVaQhJDAckaJHz+MQWw2AS2Jx1//MoHYIgIeEm+3 n2QGsYUF4iX2LoaoFxFIkHh8qIcdwjaS+DD7LlgNi4CqxLMLh8BsXgFfiS/TOqDmu0msmHyL EcTmFHCX2HOpH6yXEeig76fWgO1iFhCXuPVkPhPEoQISS/acZ4awRSVePv7HCmErSXz8PZ8d ol5HYsHuT2wQtrbEsoWvofYKSpyc+YRlAqPoLCRjZyFpmYWkZRaSlgWMLKsYOUqLU8ty040M NzECo+GYBJvjDsYFnywPMQpwMCrx8Coc3h4qxJpYVlyZe4hRmoNFSZxX2i8vVEggPbEkNTs1 tSC1KL6oNCe1+BAjEwenVAOj2tvotB3rCpbt7xNT2reGK51pzgWuKfGJ2jxCN0XsL700umG8 SnXqF2emjGUCWZ+sU6XWFUxRsNdrPTJz2y8lkcZjyVK8xyZK31m4+rdW3etmPaNqYdnEoLsy M1KOOfMrn4o8sc5h/eMp6ssiBE507Mp5/ES/KW6FoYbQLt54t7n3md9zfbmvxFKckWioxVxU nAgAu6OY1GcCAAA= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CDNi] Notes from Side Meeting on Media Type / registry discussion today here at IETF93 X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 14:36:56 -0000 Hi all, As per the action item from the side meeting, I have uploaded draft-ma-cd= ni-media-type-00.txt which contains the IANA registration for the applicati= on/cdni media type, and creates the payload type registry for subtypes (see= below). Comments are welcome. Though this is a new document, the topic has been discussed for a while n= ow in CDNI, and all of the other interface drafts are now dependent upon th= is draft, so I am also asking for comments on working group adoption of thi= s draft prior to Yokohama. thanx! -- Kevin J. Ma Name: draft-ma-cdni-media-type Revision: 00 Title: CDNI Media Type Registration Document date: 2015-07-29 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 6 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ma-cdni-media-ty= pe-00.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ma-cdni-media-type/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ma-cdni-media-type-00 > -----Original Message----- > From: CDNi [mailto:cdni-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jan Seedorf > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 11:04 AM > To: cdni@ietf.org > Subject: [CDNi] Notes from Side Meeting on Media Type / registry > discussion today here at IETF93 >=20 > Attendees: Jon, Iuniana, Jan, Francois, Daryl, Ben, Rob, Kevin >=20 > Agreement on: > -- there will be one single Media Type for CDNI > -- we will have a separate doc defining this media type, Kevin will write > it soon > -- single-level parameter hierarchy for the Media Type > -- policy for new parameters will be expert review, instructions to exper= t > say review must be based on a spec, must say for what interface > -- One can look at Rfc 3745 as example, Rfc 6838 defines Media Type > registration >=20 > - Jan >=20 > _______________________________________________ > CDNi mailing list > CDNi@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cdni From nobody Wed Jul 29 08:26:45 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E355A1A923D for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2015 08:26:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.51 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.51 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) 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Begen (abegen)" To: "Francois Le Faucheur (flefauch)" , "cdni@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [CDNi] Media Type/registry WG decision + potential adoption of draft-ma-cdni-media-type as a WG document Thread-Index: AQHQyngAQMO50Ol++0mTbZZrT+z/Tw== Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 03:29:55 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/0.0.0.150701 x-originating-ip: [10.98.108.83] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-ID: <98DD43128A387740B3C9685B1DA26E46@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CDNi] Media Type/registry WG decision + potential adoption of draft-ma-cdni-media-type as a WG document X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , 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