From nobody Sun Oct 14 05:16:26 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD01130DD0 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2018 05:16:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTTPS_HTTP_MISMATCH=1.989, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, T_SPF_TEMPERROR=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=qwilt-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fhIHuI6yGRo9 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2018 05:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wr1-x42a.google.com (mail-wr1-x42a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::42a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F185D130DF6 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2018 05:16:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wr1-x42a.google.com with SMTP id n11-v6so17965064wru.13 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2018 05:16:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=qwilt-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=QdV60QRvqXeiyOsSfqw2/ZmqUJhd/uxLAGwBFyEJ+KU=; b=N6FRSC1T+vSPk8CsFoxkeAQ/ORb58RK24En9DAJcvRBtzCNlM5EXIU5UvpizwRaZvt vBF0YDpzlk3M0Z8xvurifUlCYWdIgVYMhXVZKmUL1mWRZUOh7D3dR3FqeP0Cj9bkRt9D kig2RIHCJaBr4geD8waIHgjRRFHdSUHOuJJBZFzYIXAqq+nzVp6mtO5Tgq+80huTNpbH +NzX0aKoK2kpKvg+242EQIHo+scL9uuZU+eSryerD5LmeuCIOovVv0YdDhAYvN1rrBZe eZ/IGwgu+k7/e1rShSg8U2SKfQP7lfF8UkNzSWGBjZE/H9wDQkRPzFG9o7zP0G7MYZ82 K+nA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=QdV60QRvqXeiyOsSfqw2/ZmqUJhd/uxLAGwBFyEJ+KU=; b=CtennbdBSMA5yvyb4ZCU7aOAdiac6b/iQLJGCXcxKgc7l/SFeNH0U9ruA5EHtFvQzb fSd0SKAJgAFFrgK3JDYf4fyXg5+6ODTsKt4Zz38JY8CLhR/utip7OnyHc4IsxbJmIZw7 AIbm2FHppE9QIu3X5NiZfUudYc391kkGv0v/A3ywzEIhaSVPnTr9rE3EY7+gkzfqGatN HlDcVm3zxGKY5cSH9IojnF2Yu+KYyubvG3a4Y29RBAMREvWfqdrJt+s8XwKtnYpXmz9K xvvd3koMucz6NaVk0l/Qxp7eR6CzhhI21aVhlkLl3CLWcAtvNfpILAkFmXuD3qdmGH+9 nK6A== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfojohrEzFHRcCylE9Pw90oPziQppm0a2xyLANGA0cCC9xVgzddXd ezTEu4zuClLKGzCq5NZjnY31B9l1vwnJrijMOfvdVQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV61pVhJObQmK52H76Em/VwmQwWP0RffHhSP6EqPZ6VKbSBt5kQ7qcvS9gf4mDsuwpB2ae7emmSPG5GIB7o4S+Ok= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:4b50:: with SMTP id w16-v6mr8600411wrs.173.1539519372340; Sun, 14 Oct 2018 05:16:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8391552fbb4947f381d98f828a4bd239@tbwexch02apd.uswin.ad.vzwcorp.com> In-Reply-To: <8391552fbb4947f381d98f828a4bd239@tbwexch02apd.uswin.ad.vzwcorp.com> From: Ori Finkelman Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 15:15:45 +0300 Message-ID: To: sanjay.mishra=40verizon.com@dmarc.ietf.org Cc: Phil Sorber , "" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000050439805782f493f" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CDNi] [E] Call For Adoption of draft-finkelman-cdni-rr-sva-extensions X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2018 12:16:25 -0000 --00000000000050439805782f493f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Phil, Where are we standing with the adoption of these drafts ? Thanks, Ori On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 6:46 PM wrote: > Hi Phil =E2=80=93 Yes, thanks for clarifying, this makes sense. Don=E2=80= =99t see a > problem with this. > > > > Thanks > > Sanjay > > > > *From:* Phil Sorber [mailto:sorber@apache.org] > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 01, 2018 10:30 PM > *To:* Mishra, Sanjay > *Cc:* > *Subject:* Re: [E] [CDNi] Call For Adoption of > draft-finkelman-cdni-rr-sva-extensions > > > > Yes. The other hum was interest in rechartering that we would have to do > to adopt the triggers. So we are going to do them separately. There will = be > information about rechartering forthcoming. Does that pose any problems? > > > > Thanks. > > > > On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 8:28 PM wrote: > > Phil =E2=80=93 The presentation covered the following two drafts: > > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-finkelman-cdni-rr-sva-extensions/ > > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-finkelman-cdni-triggers-sva-extens= ions/ > > > > > Is the hum for adoption for draft-finkelman-cdni-rr-sva-extensions only? > > > > Thanks > > Sanjay > > > > *From:* CDNi [mailto:cdni-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Phil Sorber > *Sent:* Saturday, July 28, 2018 8:40 PM > *To:* > *Subject:* [E] [CDNi] Call For Adoption of > draft-finkelman-cdni-rr-sva-extensions > > > > In Montreal we had a presentation and a hum for interest in adopting this > document. The hum was positive and I would like to open a Call For Adopti= on > on it. If you weren't present at the meeting, or perhaps came up with som= e > new opinions, please voice them here. > > > > This CFA will be open until August 10th. > > > > Thanks. > > _______________________________________________ > CDNi mailing list > CDNi@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cdni > --=20 *Ori Finkelman*Qwilt | Work: +972-72-2221647 | Mobile: +972-52-3832189 | orif@qwilt.com --00000000000050439805782f493f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Phil,
Where are we standing with the adoption of th= ese drafts ?

Thanks,
Ori

=
On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 6:46 PM = <sanjay.mishra=3D40veriz= on.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

Hi Phil =E2=80=93 Yes, thanks for cla= rifying, this makes sense. Don=E2=80=99t see a problem with this.=

=C2=A0

Thanks

Sanjay

=C2=A0

From: Phil Sorber [mailto:sorber@apache.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2018 10:30 PM
To: Mishra, Sanjay <sanjay.mishra@one.verizon.com>
Cc: <cdni@ietf= .org> <cdni@ie= tf.org>
Subject: Re: [E] [CDNi] Call For Adoption of draft-finkelman-cdni-rr= -sva-extensions

=C2=A0

Yes. The other hum was interest in rechartering that= we would have to do to adopt the triggers. So we are going to do them sepa= rately. There will be information about rechartering forthcoming. Does that= pose any problems?

=C2=A0

Thanks.

=C2=A0

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 8:28 PM <sanjay.mishra@verizon.com= > wrote:

Phil =E2=80=93 The presentation cover= ed the following two drafts:

=C2=A0

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/dr= aft-finkelman-cdni-rr-sva-extensions/

https://datatracker.ietf.org/= doc/draft-finkelman-cdni-triggers-sva-extensions/

=C2=A0

Is the hum for adoption for draft-fin= kelman-cdni-rr-sva-extensions only?

=C2=A0

Thanks

Sanjay

=C2=A0

From: CDNi [mailto:cdni-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Phil Sorber
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 8:40 PM
To: <cdni@ietf= .org> <cdni@ie= tf.org>
Subject: [E] [CDNi] Call For Adoption of draft-finkelman-cdni-rr-sva= -extensions

=C2=A0

In Montreal we had a presentation and a hum for inte= rest in adopting this document. The hum was positive and I would like to op= en a Call For Adoption on it. If you weren't present at the meeting, or perhaps came up with some new opinions, please voice th= em here.

=C2=A0

This CFA will be open until August 10th.

=C2=A0

Thanks.

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--00000000000050439805782f493f-- From nobody Mon Oct 15 02:24:30 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23628130DD2 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 02:24:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.889 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.889 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, T_SPF_TEMPERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=qwilt-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oNfEoBdfzzmR for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 02:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wm1-x333.google.com (mail-wm1-x333.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::333]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 437DC130D7A for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 02:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wm1-x333.google.com with SMTP id y144-v6so18763090wmd.4 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 02:24:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=qwilt-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=f2/ed0Neip2+Lw4ORHrJ9io2SvVE4AbuSXpYGKz57no=; b=flDDRiyCDWtUpmuXI7+D5xq+L/HaPpspV8ucpSW7aIf9YeZ/wgy3CA3AXViGio4eaF PkKGDCEpcNW5vaj9zEAUhD7iYn4hmrP89OJq2kgIphFGTPtiMmxV0q41MBVTWQai+DVs WRqOuR+agUL0PGepCsqKgFriRlo9UDQjgyKgdUBPYk5NGEWsoPBMKn7hICdI1jrurV9L mFh5asw8MZLF/tNECpBDxxjf94B5lnCxe+SP7jfrBG8xT5N9Nl2BRc7BNglaZUnB+3sA Bi7ew7nYyHtIRhAEk1xosA2Bx1tutKhzpJDNzrem1AZYdNG3d7JNmmZwzsKw4kNS+/ls NZyg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=f2/ed0Neip2+Lw4ORHrJ9io2SvVE4AbuSXpYGKz57no=; b=HsFWFQ0ZOvVoYHqWa/xiC8O0CwDO5otU6wq8qdUoGswOl1EFKO5v95NVOYtq+JhBuA IfRncsoK5f8dKOTk5hsNgFhnUsLSqSJNjAqNnpHQfPv1kF3vYFt4z+eT64vEygco9f7q ncsKzsZ3eOsYf/7BiyOV7A3n7e5PL+LpR8v2W1S+U1HH2///NN8UPFxGIgHvqUaGHxXG 8HCeNOpoRqMH5lkZsbwXzmwqaNluuO2XShAm19wS+y0Ttut7AlkWtUn/HFtA6kbBxjsH J/kVJIZzdzKzJKYGEce5KIarVUZxrfOSuBiFIAUT3+weuJWD3YNS6OkydufpJFEjGyWo KuVQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfoje/6FB2exiboEhFO90nD3eM4sFeJMAT377hiH2L60BlIrHLRGD FHR2QPVOVlX6RcnLFNBqF+IqNUlRXD9C9YehMnTURLgsVc4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV61cHQ8Cz3i+ZJ6wAZNC/qiRHhGJesnJQgOEjDNBQVhGrWang1SxLZ7cZe6b7jjxZnia9Ky46ilVrvT2cr5lqRw= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:8fcc:: with SMTP id r195-v6mr13034042wmd.44.1539595463187; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 02:24:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Ori Finkelman Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 12:23:56 +0300 Message-ID: To: "" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ae7ec905784100a8" Archived-At: Subject: [CDNi] Trigger time policy using local time X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 09:24:28 -0000 --000000000000ae7ec905784100a8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, In the last CDNI meeting we have agreed to add to the time policy the local-time flag (see below). The required semantics is the instruct the dCDN to run the trigger at the given time window in there own local time. For example: "I want you to run this trigger between 3AM-5AM at your own local time". The reasoning is that network resource availability and prices may vary across the day, and specifically are more available and less expensive at off-peak hours. however off-peak hours are local per region. In the past we have proposed to avoid adding this flag by using a combination of location policy and time policy, but that would require calling a separate trigger for each region. While working on adding this "local-time" flag, I have realized that TimeWindow as defined in https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8006#section-4.2.3.2 in UTC and it is better not be used to represent local time. The only option I can think of using textual time format as defined in RFC3339, and the local time flag should be interpreted by the dCDN as "you should interpret this as if it in your own local time". Using RFC3339 means we need to add a new time object instead of the TimeWindow. Thoughts ? Thanks, Ori On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 9:19 AM Ori Finkelman wrote: > Here are the comments we got CDNI meeting. > > *Playlist:* > change abr-protocol to media-protocol, as it may be used for other media > rather than video abr. > > *Trigger TimePolicy:* > Add local-time flag. When true the trigger should be executed at the local > time, per zone. > > *Trigger error and warning propagation:* > Considering triggers may be propagated to a chain of dCDNs, and > considering we allow extensions to be safe-to-redistribute even if not > understood, we should add a mechanism for propagating errors and warnings > back to the uCDN. > > Thanks, > Ori > > -- > > *Ori Finkelman*Qwilt | Work: +972-72-2221647 | Mobile: +972-52-3832189 | > orif@qwilt.com > -- *Ori Finkelman*Qwilt | Work: +972-72-2221647 | Mobile: +972-52-3832189 | orif@qwilt.com --000000000000ae7ec905784100a8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
In the last CDNI meeting we have = agreed to add to the time policy the local-time flag (see below).
The required semantics is the instruct the dCDN to run the trigger at the = given time window in there own local time.
For example: "I w= ant you to run this trigger between 3AM-5AM at your own local time".

The reasoning is that network resource availability= and prices may vary across the day, and specifically are more available an= d less expensive at off-peak=C2=A0hours. however off-peak hours are local p= er region.
In the past we have proposed to avoid adding this flag= by using a combination of location policy and time policy, but that would = require calling a separate trigger for each region.

While working on adding this "local-time" flag, I have realized= that TimeWindow as defined in https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8006#section-4.2.3.2= in UTC and it is better not be used to represent local time.
The= only option I can think of using textual time format as defined in RFC3339= , and the local time flag should be interpreted by the dCDN as "you sh= ould interpret this as if it in your own local time".
Using = RFC3339 means we need to add a new time object instead of the TimeWindow.

Thoughts ?

Thanks,
Ori


On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 9:19 AM Ori Finkelman <orif@qwilt.com> wrote:
Here are the comments we got C= DNI meeting.

Playlist:
change ab= r-protocol to media-protocol, as it may be used for other media rather than= video abr.

Trigger TimePolicy:
Add local-time flag. When true the trigger should be executed at the = local time, per zone.

Trigger error and warn= ing propagation:
Considering triggers may be propagated t= o a chain of dCDNs, and considering we allow extensions to be safe-to-redis= tribute even if not understood, we should add a mechanism for propagating e= rrors and warnings back to the uCDN.

Thanks,
=
Ori

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The reason for that is that when adding trigger extensions, some extensions may be incomprehensible down the CDN path, and will result in an error returned to the calling dCDN. For example if uCDN-A calls a trigger on dCDN-B which is also propagated to dCDN-C. If dCDN-C has an error and it is returned to cCDN-B, then dCDN-B has the option to either fail, or succeed with the "ecdn" error code, which is not informational enough to understand what happened. In order to face this we have agreed to add a mechanism to propagate the error that happened and the dCDN in which it happened. I am proposing to add to the Error Description defined in https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8007#section-5.2.6 one of the following options: + the cdn PID where this error occurred, this will all propagation of the error upwards and at each point one can tell where it happened. in the above example: * dCDN-C will issue an error to dCDN-B with "cdn": "dCDN-C" * dCDN-B will propagate this error to uCDN-A with "cdn": "dCDN-C" + or, a cdn-path in a stack order for example, in the case above * dCDN-C will issue an error to dCDN-B with "cdn-path": { "dCDN-C" } * dCDN-B will propagate this error to uCDN-A with "cdn-path": { "dCDN-B", "dCDN-C"} - meaning that the error occurred in dCDN-C and the ones before are merely propagating the error. Thoughts ? Thanks, Ori On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 9:19 AM Ori Finkelman wrote: > Here are the comments we got CDNI meeting. > > *Playlist:* > change abr-protocol to media-protocol, as it may be used for other media > rather than video abr. > > *Trigger TimePolicy:* > Add local-time flag. When true the trigger should be executed at the local > time, per zone. > > *Trigger error and warning propagation:* > Considering triggers may be propagated to a chain of dCDNs, and > considering we allow extensions to be safe-to-redistribute even if not > understood, we should add a mechanism for propagating errors and warnings > back to the uCDN. > > Thanks, > Ori > > -- > > *Ori Finkelman*Qwilt | Work: +972-72-2221647 | Mobile: +972-52-3832189 | > orif@qwilt.com > -- *Ori Finkelman*Qwilt | Work: +972-72-2221647 | Mobile: +972-52-3832189 | orif@qwilt.com --000000000000f762170578417c84 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear all,
In the last CDNI meeting we= have agreed to add the ability to propagate errors upwards in the trigger = chain.=C2=A0
The reason for that is that when adding trigger exte= nsions, some extensions may be incomprehensible down the CDN path, and will= result in an error returned to the calling dCDN.

= For example if uCDN-A calls a trigger on dCDN-B which is also propagated to= dCDN-C.=C2=A0
If dCDN-C has an error and it is returned to cCDN-= B, then dCDN-B has the option to either fail, or succeed with the "ecd= n" error code, which is not informational enough to understand what ha= ppened.

In order to face this we have agreed to ad= d a mechanism to propagate the error that happened and the dCDN in which it= happened.

I am proposing to add to the Error Desc= ription defined in=C2=A0https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8007#section-5.2.6 one of the= following options:
+ the cdn PID where this error occurred, this= will all propagation of the error upwards and at each point one can tell w= here it happened. in the above example:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0* dCDN-C wil= l issue an error to dCDN-B with "cdn": "dCDN-C"
=C2=A0 =C2=A0* dCDN-B will propagate this error to uCDN-A with "cdn= ": "dCDN-C"
+ or, a cdn-path in a stack order for = example, in the case above=C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0* dCDN-C will issue= an error to dCDN-B with "cdn-path": { "dCDN-C" }
=C2=A0 =C2=A0* dCDN-B will propagate this error to uCDN-A with &qu= ot;cdn-path": { "dCDN-B", "dCDN-C"} - meaning that= the error occurred in dCDN-C and the ones before are merely propagating th= e error.

Thoughts ?

Thank= s,
Ori


On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 9:19 AM Ori Finkelman <orif@qwilt.com> wrote:
Here are the comment= s we got CDNI meeting.

Playlist:
change abr-protocol to media-protocol, as it may be used for other media r= ather than video abr.

Trigger TimePolicy:
Add local-time flag. When true the trigger should be execut= ed at the local time, per zone.

Trigger erro= r and warning propagation:
Considering triggers may be pr= opagated to a chain of dCDNs, and considering we allow extensions to be saf= e-to-redistribute even if not understood, we should add a mechanism for pro= pagating errors and warnings back to the uCDN.

Tha= nks,
Ori

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--000000000000f762170578417c84-- From nobody Mon Oct 15 12:25:30 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383D4130E01 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 12:25:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -12.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, ENV_AND_HDR_SPF_MATCH=-0.5, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTTPS_HTTP_MISMATCH=1.989, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_SPF_WL=-7.5] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NoWzsCQzTtFN for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 12:25:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C430A124C04 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 12:25:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 74872 invoked by uid 99); 15 Oct 2018 19:25:24 -0000 Received: from mail-relay.apache.org (HELO mailrelay1-lw-us.apache.org) (207.244.88.152) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 19:25:24 +0000 Received: from mail-ed1-f51.google.com (mail-ed1-f51.google.com [209.85.208.51]) by mailrelay1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mailrelay1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPSA id E6EC7E1C for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 19:25:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ed1-f51.google.com with SMTP id y19-v6so18969665edd.2 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 12:25:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfoi1E6ihx51A9Z7R0yM1T3dNO3FZro0VC14wQvFCnfsVHYrpeupd W564/9DfYKucfvsN1gd0pkW8a0uShkzrwGDdAS4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV61xRftlpcLpHFwhenjK4PsRVlt6Em5UHkMd6vEY+1PiH9N5JFyOrUcnzwVs8Jr1sE7Scv1E/B3aYd2iFpxrTVQ= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:d20d:: with SMTP id w13-v6mr20486646ejz.5.1539631521970; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 12:25:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8391552fbb4947f381d98f828a4bd239@tbwexch02apd.uswin.ad.vzwcorp.com> In-Reply-To: From: Phil Sorber Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 13:25:08 -0600 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: Ori Finkelman Cc: sanjay.mishra=40verizon.com@dmarc.ietf.org, "" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f3c0dc057849659b" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CDNi] [E] Call For Adoption of draft-finkelman-cdni-rr-sva-extensions X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 19:25:28 -0000 --000000000000f3c0dc057849659b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry for the delay. Working on this now. On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 6:16 AM Ori Finkelman wrote: > Hi Phil, > Where are we standing with the adoption of these drafts ? > > Thanks, > Ori > > On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 6:46 PM > wrote: > >> Hi Phil =E2=80=93 Yes, thanks for clarifying, this makes sense. Don=E2= =80=99t see a >> problem with this. >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Sanjay >> >> >> >> *From:* Phil Sorber [mailto:sorber@apache.org] >> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 01, 2018 10:30 PM >> *To:* Mishra, Sanjay >> *Cc:* >> *Subject:* Re: [E] [CDNi] Call For Adoption of >> draft-finkelman-cdni-rr-sva-extensions >> >> >> >> Yes. The other hum was interest in rechartering that we would have to do >> to adopt the triggers. So we are going to do them separately. There will= be >> information about rechartering forthcoming. Does that pose any problems? >> >> >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 8:28 PM wrote: >> >> Phil =E2=80=93 The presentation covered the following two drafts: >> >> >> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-finkelman-cdni-rr-sva-extensions/ >> >> >> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-finkelman-cdni-triggers-sva-exten= sions/ >> >> >> >> >> Is the hum for adoption for draft-finkelman-cdni-rr-sva-extensions only? >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Sanjay >> >> >> >> *From:* CDNi [mailto:cdni-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Phil Sorber >> *Sent:* Saturday, July 28, 2018 8:40 PM >> *To:* >> *Subject:* [E] [CDNi] Call For Adoption of >> draft-finkelman-cdni-rr-sva-extensions >> >> >> >> In Montreal we had a presentation and a hum for interest in adopting thi= s >> document. The hum was positive and I would like to open a Call For Adopt= ion >> on it. If you weren't present at the meeting, or perhaps came up with so= me >> new opinions, please voice them here. >> >> >> >> This CFA will be open until August 10th. >> >> >> >> Thanks. >> >> _______________________________________________ > > >> CDNi mailing list >> CDNi@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cdni >> > > > -- > > *Ori Finkelman*Qwilt | Work: +972-72-2221647 <+972%2072-222-1647> | > Mobile: +972-52-3832189 <+972%2052-383-2189> | orif@qwilt.com > --000000000000f3c0dc057849659b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry for the delay. Working on this now.

On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 6:16 AM Ori Fink= elman <orif@qwilt.com> wrote:
Hi Phil,
Where = are we standing with the adoption of these drafts ?

Thanks,
Ori

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 6:46 PM <= ;sanjay.mishra=3D40verizon.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

Hi Phil =E2=80=93 Yes, thanks for cla= rifying, this makes sense. Don=E2=80=99t see a problem with this.=

=C2=A0

Thanks

Sanjay

=C2=A0

From: Phil Sorber [mailto:sorber@apache.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2018 10:30 PM
To: Mishra, Sanjay <sanjay.mishra@one.verizon.com>
Cc: <cdni@ietf= .org> <cdni@ie= tf.org>
Subject: Re: [E] [CDNi] Call For Adoption of draft-finkelman-cdni-rr= -sva-extensions

=C2=A0

Yes. The other hum was interest in rechartering that= we would have to do to adopt the triggers. So we are going to do them sepa= rately. There will be information about rechartering forthcoming. Does that= pose any problems?

=C2=A0

Thanks.

=C2=A0

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 8:28 PM <sanjay.mishra@verizon.com= > wrote:

Phil =E2=80=93 The presentation cover= ed the following two drafts:

=C2=A0

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/dr= aft-finkelman-cdni-rr-sva-extensions/

https://datatracker.ietf.org/= doc/draft-finkelman-cdni-triggers-sva-extensions/

=C2=A0

Is the hum for adoption for draft-fin= kelman-cdni-rr-sva-extensions only?

=C2=A0

Thanks

Sanjay

=C2=A0

From: CDNi [mailto:cdni-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Phil Sorber
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 8:40 PM
To: <cdni@ietf= .org> <cdni@ie= tf.org>
Subject: [E] [CDNi] Call For Adoption of draft-finkelman-cdni-rr-sva= -extensions

=C2=A0

In Montreal we had a presentation and a hum for inte= rest in adopting this document. The hum was positive and I would like to op= en a Call For Adoption on it. If you weren't present at the meeting, or perhaps came up with some new opinions, please voice th= em here.

=C2=A0

This CFA will be open until August 10th.

=C2=A0

Thanks.

_______________________________________________


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--000000000000f3c0dc057849659b-- From nobody Mon Oct 15 12:32:11 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietf.org Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC40130E9B; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 12:32:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: , , , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.87.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <153963192970.3372.18075768317867573064.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 12:32:09 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [CDNi] The CDNI WG has placed draft-finkelman-cdni-rr-sva-extensions in state "WG Document" X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 19:32:10 -0000 The CDNI WG has placed draft-finkelman-cdni-rr-sva-extensions in state WG Document (entered by Phil Sorber) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-finkelman-cdni-rr-sva-extensions/ Comment: This was discussed in Montreal and hummed on and then also taken to the mailing list where there was no objections. From nobody Mon Oct 15 13:01:23 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20840130E02 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 13:01:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -12.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-12.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, ENV_AND_HDR_SPF_MATCH=-0.5, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTTPS_HTTP_MISMATCH=1.989, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_SPF_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XZdG3BgzWpTv for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 13:01:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 88641130DE5 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 13:01:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 65957 invoked by uid 99); 15 Oct 2018 20:01:18 -0000 Received: from mail-relay.apache.org (HELO mailrelay2-lw-us.apache.org) (207.244.88.137) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 20:01:18 +0000 Received: from mail-ed1-f49.google.com (mail-ed1-f49.google.com [209.85.208.49]) by mailrelay2-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mailrelay2-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPSA id F34EAA3D for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 20:01:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ed1-f49.google.com with SMTP id z21-v6so19027734edb.11 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 13:01:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfoiIG1+8uAToFi/fTIkn4SnAYSCsKjvwhq4tVhxkri7GhCMmltA7 a/yxQqXlY1qAcmUrqBLN3wTc4Njgmo5R9qCctFw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV60oWRMlCO2eu6xAeoSfmBcN1cglb0ET07cjE2gnf0atykaB6yXzDTxyFFV1SWVBUrMtAgXs5HjoCfK1JKPB1AY= X-Received: by 2002:a50:b7db:: with SMTP id i27-v6mr26728299ede.262.1539633675937; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 13:01:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8391552fbb4947f381d98f828a4bd239@tbwexch02apd.uswin.ad.vzwcorp.com> In-Reply-To: From: Phil Sorber Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 14:01:03 -0600 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: Ori Finkelman Cc: sanjay.mishra=40verizon.com@dmarc.ietf.org, "" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000056ac9c057849e622" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CDNi] [E] Call For Adoption of draft-finkelman-cdni-rr-sva-extensions X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 20:01:21 -0000 --00000000000056ac9c057849e622 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ori, I think we did this out of order, but can you resubmit with "draft-ietf-cndi-..." naming scheme? That is the document that needs to be adopted. Sorry for the confusion. On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 1:25 PM Phil Sorber wrote: > Sorry for the delay. Working on this now. > > > On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 6:16 AM Ori Finkelman wrote: > >> Hi Phil, >> Where are we standing with the adoption of these drafts ? >> >> Thanks, >> Ori >> >> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 6:46 PM > 40verizon.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: >> >>> Hi Phil =E2=80=93 Yes, thanks for clarifying, this makes sense. Don=E2= =80=99t see a >>> problem with this. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Sanjay >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Phil Sorber [mailto:sorber@apache.org] >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 01, 2018 10:30 PM >>> *To:* Mishra, Sanjay >>> *Cc:* >>> *Subject:* Re: [E] [CDNi] Call For Adoption of >>> draft-finkelman-cdni-rr-sva-extensions >>> >>> >>> >>> Yes. The other hum was interest in rechartering that we would have to d= o >>> to adopt the triggers. So we are going to do them separately. There wil= l be >>> information about rechartering forthcoming. Does that pose any problems= ? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 8:28 PM wrote: >>> >>> Phil =E2=80=93 The presentation covered the following two drafts: >>> >>> >>> >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-finkelman-cdni-rr-sva-extensions= / >>> >>> >>> >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-finkelman-cdni-triggers-sva-exte= nsions/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Is the hum for adoption for draft-finkelman-cdni-rr-sva-extensions only= ? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Sanjay >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* CDNi [mailto:cdni-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Phil Sorber >>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 28, 2018 8:40 PM >>> *To:* >>> *Subject:* [E] [CDNi] Call For Adoption of >>> draft-finkelman-cdni-rr-sva-extensions >>> >>> >>> >>> In Montreal we had a presentation and a hum for interest in adopting >>> this document. The hum was positive and I would like to open a Call For >>> Adoption on it. If you weren't present at the meeting, or perhaps came = up >>> with some new opinions, please voice them here. >>> >>> >>> >>> This CFA will be open until August 10th. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >> >>> CDNi mailing list >>> CDNi@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cdni >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> *Ori Finkelman*Qwilt | Work: +972-72-2221647 <+972%2072-222-1647> | >> Mobile: +972-52-3832189 <+972%2052-383-2189> | orif@qwilt.com >> > --00000000000056ac9c057849e622 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ori,

I think we did this out= of order, but can you resubmit with "draft-ietf-cndi-..." naming= scheme? That is the document that needs to be adopted.

Sorry for the confusion.

On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 1:25 PM Phil Sorber <sorber@apache.org> wrote:
=
Sorry for the delay. Workin= g on this now.


On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 6:16 AM Ori Finkelman <orif@qwilt.com> wrote:
<= /div>
Hi Phil,
Where are= we standing with the adoption of these drafts ?

T= hanks,
Ori

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 6:46 PM <sa= njay.mishra=3D40verizon.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

Hi Phil =E2=80=93 Yes, thanks for cla= rifying, this makes sense. Don=E2=80=99t see a problem with this.=

=C2=A0

Thanks

Sanjay

=C2=A0

From: Phil Sorber [mailto:sorber@apache.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2018 10:30 PM
To: Mishra, Sanjay <sanjay.mishra@one.verizon.com>
Cc: <cdni@ietf= .org> <cdni@ie= tf.org>
Subject: Re: [E] [CDNi] Call For Adoption of draft-finkelman-cdni-rr= -sva-extensions

=C2=A0

Yes. The other hum was interest in rechartering that= we would have to do to adopt the triggers. So we are going to do them sepa= rately. There will be information about rechartering forthcoming. Does that= pose any problems?

=C2=A0

Thanks.

=C2=A0

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 8:28 PM <sanjay.mishra@verizon.com= > wrote:

Phil =E2=80=93 The presentation cover= ed the following two drafts:

=C2=A0

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/dr= aft-finkelman-cdni-rr-sva-extensions/

https://datatracker.ietf.org/= doc/draft-finkelman-cdni-triggers-sva-extensions/

=C2=A0

Is the hum for adoption for draft-fin= kelman-cdni-rr-sva-extensions only?

=C2=A0

Thanks

Sanjay

=C2=A0

From: CDNi [mailto:cdni-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Phil Sorber
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 8:40 PM
To: <cdni@ietf= .org> <cdni@ie= tf.org>
Subject: [E] [CDNi] Call For Adoption of draft-finkelman-cdni-rr-sva= -extensions

=C2=A0

In Montreal we had a presentation and a hum for inte= rest in adopting this document. The hum was positive and I would like to op= en a Call For Adoption on it. If you weren't present at the meeting, or perhaps came up with some new opinions, please voice th= em here.

=C2=A0

This CFA will be open until August 10th.

=C2=A0

Thanks.

_______________________________________________


--
Ori Finkelman
Qwil= t | Work: +972-72-2221647 | Mobile: +972-52-3832189 | orif@qwilt.co= m
--00000000000056ac9c057849e622-- From nobody Mon Oct 15 23:40:22 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A1412D4E6 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 23:40:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTTPS_HTTP_MISMATCH=1.989, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, T_SPF_TEMPERROR=0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=qwilt-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xf4ZegWqVC4Q for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 23:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wr1-x429.google.com (mail-wr1-x429.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::429]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 79BEE128CF3 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 23:40:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wr1-x429.google.com with SMTP id y16so24021384wrw.3 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 23:40:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=qwilt-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=H+lGeq293Yzx75Fo/42QaNjXg5PwI9XYVw430B5FeUA=; b=HIyHRhQ7BsR1SBN0wGesSjlapHwiOL9/YtNgua0ul4BBymHwAYe0ssMZvpcL8FA+AJ GjXO4z0xbyBZdM//8EMfbYShXCBUKJwS46U6ixJqdEmRGk0b5kugay9lEyRKK2kbFb3p gkYKYxp9fDWnWvTkuaLztGqeFeN/6gsfzzkbMxHkJbeGDqh0ai6heVZ7Ux5vt+vUyiaG O689W0y2FBZToqPMnCqR+rzHmAOTCuTv/ZTvW4/ncRU4jbahYgsBL6D0lJ8NKLoB4C/R Jiact9y6WVjhtYYmVktWtPA1n5gWUKDFOsmkJkstfcgi7dzsOGm+6fT42gkKGIE7stcM FGXA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=H+lGeq293Yzx75Fo/42QaNjXg5PwI9XYVw430B5FeUA=; b=JzRDHztP6Z4BBh/R9ODxNHLU1WSx2g3Nb9AGg5Tlc48jHeEE/vX+zoHJt2lp5Spvw4 PJJgs89pNl4mhjzbD55dzoUbCalbuTQf/9MHTmpKOZ5QHw/aqpo4qT8X8ow8piwQPA/Z 6cFEAw4coIM/yDNq09siwoZvo3ZD0WYXH7tn9W0Ezz9ow6VsaeOmk6SCndJSfIRq58ub vWsGIHqav/3zJgDJEZQGYXn+OL/cBz1pB2QALOtosswCS20QEDlOq4y028xnbK03zaEq LQuDn4OxkE52SUwYviE1KbCii8p9FT+udXgTQkwjW92FKKjn5T7zRK/kksOFBLwc3WoA RYhg== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfogwDM88SV+BigTOEW8dFouUlIYsRHbC5CFd59jROcoY+IA/o3iZ En+yNf21M6REPo2+D6/ffBw5eJD4CCGajwQUyQXRWA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV62wvoLV1LLHShyRdf83ajSvlqdQdBtJH3FfPSQyE6IIVU1BMGXU10weFe8VyX1WdKfiLhswyM4GPhWM/2tSZms= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:438e:: with SMTP id i14-v6mr18515983wrq.156.1539672014750; Mon, 15 Oct 2018 23:40:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8391552fbb4947f381d98f828a4bd239@tbwexch02apd.uswin.ad.vzwcorp.com> In-Reply-To: From: Ori Finkelman Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 09:39:46 +0300 Message-ID: To: Phil Sorber Cc: sanjay.mishra=40verizon.com@dmarc.ietf.org, "" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000082992c057852d3bc" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CDNi] [E] Call For Adoption of draft-finkelman-cdni-rr-sva-extensions X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 06:40:21 -0000 --00000000000082992c057852d3bc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sure, I'll do that now. On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 11:01 PM Phil Sorber wrote: > Ori, > > I think we did this out of order, but can you resubmit with > "draft-ietf-cndi-..." naming scheme? That is the document that needs to b= e > adopted. > > Sorry for the confusion. > > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 1:25 PM Phil Sorber wrote: > >> Sorry for the delay. Working on this now. >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 6:16 AM Ori Finkelman wrote: >> >>> Hi Phil, >>> Where are we standing with the adoption of these drafts ? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Ori >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 6:46 PM >> 40verizon.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Phil =E2=80=93 Yes, thanks for clarifying, this makes sense. Don=E2= =80=99t see a >>>> problem with this. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Sanjay >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Phil Sorber [mailto:sorber@apache.org] >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 01, 2018 10:30 PM >>>> *To:* Mishra, Sanjay >>>> *Cc:* >>>> *Subject:* Re: [E] [CDNi] Call For Adoption of >>>> draft-finkelman-cdni-rr-sva-extensions >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yes. The other hum was interest in rechartering that we would have to >>>> do to adopt the triggers. So we are going to do them separately. There= will >>>> be information about rechartering forthcoming. Does that pose any prob= lems? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 8:28 PM wrote: >>>> >>>> Phil =E2=80=93 The presentation covered the following two drafts: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-finkelman-cdni-rr-sva-extension= s/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-finkelman-cdni-triggers-sva-ext= ensions/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Is the hum for adoption for draft-finkelman-cdni-rr-sva-extensions onl= y? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Sanjay >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* CDNi [mailto:cdni-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Phil Sorber >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 28, 2018 8:40 PM >>>> *To:* >>>> *Subject:* [E] [CDNi] Call For Adoption of >>>> draft-finkelman-cdni-rr-sva-extensions >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> In Montreal we had a presentation and a hum for interest in adopting >>>> this document. The hum was positive and I would like to open a Call Fo= r >>>> Adoption on it. If you weren't present at the meeting, or perhaps came= up >>>> with some new opinions, please voice them here. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This CFA will be open until August 10th. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> >>>> CDNi mailing list >>>> CDNi@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cdni >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> *Ori Finkelman*Qwilt | Work: +972-72-2221647 <+972%2072-222-1647> | >>> Mobile: +972-52-3832189 <+972%2052-383-2189> | orif@qwilt.com >>> >> --=20 *Ori Finkelman*Qwilt | Work: +972-72-2221647 | Mobile: +972-52-3832189 | orif@qwilt.com --00000000000082992c057852d3bc Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sure, I'll do that now.

On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 11:01 PM Phil Sorber <sorber@apache.org> wrote:
Ori,

I think we did this out of order, but can you resubmit with "= draft-ietf-cndi-..." naming scheme? That is the document that needs to= be adopted.

Sorry for the confusion.

On Mon, Oct 15, 2018= at 1:25 PM Phil Sorber <sorber@apache.org> wrote:
Sorry for the delay. Working on this now.


On Sun, Oct= 14, 2018 at 6:16 AM Ori Finkelman <orif@qwilt.com> wrote:
Hi Phil,
Where are we standing with the ado= ption of these drafts ?

Thanks,
Ori

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 6:46 PM <sanjay.mishra=3D40verizon.com@dmarc.= ietf.org> wrote:

Hi Phil =E2=80=93 Yes, thanks for cla= rifying, this makes sense. Don=E2=80=99t see a problem with this.=

=C2=A0

Thanks

Sanjay

=C2=A0

From: Phil Sorber [mailto:sorber@apache.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2018 10:30 PM
To: Mishra, Sanjay <sanjay.mishra@one.verizon.com>
Cc: <cdni@ietf= .org> <cdni@ie= tf.org>
Subject: Re: [E] [CDNi] Call For Adoption of draft-finkelman-cdni-rr= -sva-extensions

=C2=A0

Yes. The other hum was interest in rechartering that= we would have to do to adopt the triggers. So we are going to do them sepa= rately. There will be information about rechartering forthcoming. Does that= pose any problems?

=C2=A0

Thanks.

=C2=A0

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 8:28 PM <sanjay.mishra@verizon.com= > wrote:

Phil =E2=80=93 The presentation cover= ed the following two drafts:

=C2=A0

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/dr= aft-finkelman-cdni-rr-sva-extensions/

https://datatracker.ietf.org/= doc/draft-finkelman-cdni-triggers-sva-extensions/

=C2=A0

Is the hum for adoption for draft-fin= kelman-cdni-rr-sva-extensions only?

=C2=A0

Thanks

Sanjay

=C2=A0

From: CDNi [mailto:cdni-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Phil Sorber
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 8:40 PM
To: <cdni@ietf= .org> <cdni@ie= tf.org>
Subject: [E] [CDNi] Call For Adoption of draft-finkelman-cdni-rr-sva= -extensions

=C2=A0

In Montreal we had a presentation and a hum for inte= rest in adopting this document. The hum was positive and I would like to op= en a Call For Adoption on it. If you weren't present at the meeting, or perhaps came up with some new opinions, please voice th= em here.

=C2=A0

This CFA will be open until August 10th.

=C2=A0

Thanks.

_______________________________________________


--
Ori= Finkelman
Qwilt | Work: +972-72-2221647 | Mobile: +972-52-3= 832189 | orif@qwilt.com


--
Ori Finkelman
Qwilt | Work: +972-72-2221647 | Mobile: +972-52= -3832189 | orif@qwilt.com
--00000000000082992c057852d3bc-- From nobody Wed Oct 17 15:53:56 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietf.org Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D57130E3A; Wed, 17 Oct 2018 15:53:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: cdni@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.87.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: cdni@ietf.org Message-ID: <153981683535.27502.16212886657696821841@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 15:53:55 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [CDNi] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-00.txt X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 22:53:56 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Content Delivery Networks Interconnection WG of the IETF. Title : CDNI Request Routing Extensions Authors : Ori Finkelman Sanjay Mishra Filename : draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-00.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2018-10-17 Abstract: The Open Caching working group of the Streaming Video Alliance is focused on the delegation of video delivery requests from commercial CDNs to a caching layer at the ISP. In that aspect, Open Caching is a specific use case of CDNI, where the commercial CDN is the upstream CDN (uCDN) and the ISP caching layer is the downstream CDN (dCDN). The extensions specified in this document to the CDNI Metadata and FCI interfaces are derived from requirements raised by Open Caching but are applicable to CDNI use cases in general. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-00 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Oct 19 12:02:47 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietf.org Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC5313110C; Fri, 19 Oct 2018 11:56:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "\"IETF Secretariat\"" To: , Cc: cdni@ietf.org, aamelnikov@fastmail.fm X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.87.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <153997539764.6592.2999975182546861343.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 11:56:37 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [CDNi] cdni - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 103 X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 18:56:46 -0000 Dear Liz Flynn, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. cdni Session 1 (1:00 requested) Tuesday, 6 November 2018, Morning Session II 1120-1220 Room Name: Meeting 2 size: 150 --------------------------------------------- iCalendar: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/sessions/cdni.ics Request Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Content Delivery Networks Interconnection Area Name: Applications and Real-Time Area Session Requester: Liz Flynn Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 1 Hour Number of Attendees: 40 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: tls dispatch alto acme Second Priority: quic httpbis kitten People who must be present: Francois Le Faucheur Alexey Melnikov Kevin J. Ma Phil Sorber Ori Finkelman Resources Requested: Special Requests: --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Mon Oct 22 14:55:41 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietf.org Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE6B130DC5; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 14:55:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: cdni@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.87.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: cdni@ietf.org Message-ID: <154024533188.13394.15555324912594893688@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 14:55:31 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [CDNi] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cdni-uri-signing-15.txt X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 21:55:39 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Content Delivery Networks Interconnection WG of the IETF. Title : URI Signing for CDN Interconnection (CDNI) Authors : Ray van Brandenburg Kent Leung Phil Sorber Filename : draft-ietf-cdni-uri-signing-15.txt Pages : 39 Date : 2018-10-22 Abstract: This document describes how the concept of URI signing supports the content access control requirements of CDNI and proposes a URI signing method as a JSON Web Token (JWT) [RFC7519] profile. The proposed URI signing method specifies the information needed to be included in the URI to transmit the signed JWT as well as the claims needed by the signed JWT to authorize a UA. The mechanism described can be used both in CDNI and single CDN scenarios. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-uri-signing/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cdni-uri-signing-15 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-cdni-uri-signing-15 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-cdni-uri-signing-15 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Tue Oct 23 13:34:52 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietf.org Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7AF212426A; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 13:34:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: cdni@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.87.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: cdni@ietf.org Message-ID: <154032689086.31232.6222560378202642442@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 13:34:50 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [CDNi] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cdni-uri-signing-16.txt X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 20:34:51 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Content Delivery Networks Interconnection WG of the IETF. Title : URI Signing for CDN Interconnection (CDNI) Authors : Ray van Brandenburg Kent Leung Phil Sorber Filename : draft-ietf-cdni-uri-signing-16.txt Pages : 40 Date : 2018-10-23 Abstract: This document describes how the concept of URI signing supports the content access control requirements of CDNI and proposes a URI signing method as a JSON Web Token (JWT) [RFC7519] profile. The proposed URI signing method specifies the information needed to be included in the URI to transmit the signed JWT as well as the claims needed by the signed JWT to authorize a UA. The mechanism described can be used both in CDNI and single CDN scenarios. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-uri-signing/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cdni-uri-signing-16 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-cdni-uri-signing-16 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-cdni-uri-signing-16 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sun Oct 28 19:20:35 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7EC12D4E7 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2018 19:20:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, ENV_AND_HDR_SPF_MATCH=-0.5, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_SPF_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iIqceuIPozXA for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2018 19:20:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 14B19128CE4 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2018 19:20:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 83745 invoked by uid 99); 29 Oct 2018 02:20:29 -0000 Received: from mail-relay.apache.org (HELO mailrelay2-lw-us.apache.org) (207.244.88.137) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 29 Oct 2018 02:20:29 +0000 Received: from mail-ed1-f42.google.com (mail-ed1-f42.google.com [209.85.208.42]) by mailrelay2-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mailrelay2-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPSA id D0F8B25F7 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2018 02:20:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ed1-f42.google.com with SMTP id e5-v6so5915447eds.6 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2018 19:20:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gKNCGD7PHGozgdslBVJyUsXxez1+4M+xe52xg+MiTreXsdI6iOL DIPXoLkopKC0x35K4Xx1pHu3GDOBY9TpdN94+j8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5fue5xt+e9nnSbTiyOKOnB6Mfbv+M5GQY7EYUvcXo/8gLUYFLxJ62/AX+f9dBchzNDtG6dv7zjYyxEmdikhUs0= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:31db:: with SMTP id f27-v6mr9080614ejf.186.1540779627670; Sun, 28 Oct 2018 19:20:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Phil Sorber Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 20:20:15 -0600 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: "" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000627403057954b69c" Archived-At: Subject: [CDNi] draft-fieau-cdni-interfaces-https-delegation call for adoption X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 02:20:34 -0000 --000000000000627403057954b69c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" At the last meeting we discussed the potential to adopt this document. Frederic posted a new version with the changes we had discussed and so I'd like to do a formal call for adoption here. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-fieau-cdni-interfaces-https-delegation/ I'll leave this open until Nov 10th. Thanks. --000000000000627403057954b69c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
At the last meeting we discussed the potential to ado= pt this document. Frederic posted a new version with the changes we had dis= cussed and so I'd like to do a formal call for adoption here.
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I'= ll leave this open until Nov 10th.

Thanks.
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Hi,
I see this as an important part of CDNI as delegat= ing HTTPS credentials is a must for DNS delegation.
I am therefor= e favor of adopting it.

Thanks,
Ori

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018= at 4:20 AM Phil Sorber <sorber@apa= che.org> wrote:
At the last meeting we discussed the potential to adopt this docu= ment. Frederic posted a new version with the changes we had discussed and s= o I'd like to do a formal call for adoption here.
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