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Hi Chris,

  I don't see any reason why we couldn't add a registry for the error codes.

Phil,

  Do you have any thoughts on Chris's comments?

thanx.

--  Kevin J. Ma

On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 2:23 PM Chris Lemmons <alficles@gmail.com> wrote:

> So I was reviewing all the extension points. I noticed that although
> the s-uri-signing logging field is added to the IANA registry, the
> field itself is defined by a list of numbers that are themselves part
> of no registry. Since there's a one-to-one mapping between all failure
> types and a logging code, any extension claims cannot record an
> associated code. This will cause implementations to try to pick a
> "related" or "generic" logging code for validations that fail on
> account of a supported extension. (Unsupported extensions, of course,
> would record 409.) Is there a reasonable way to provide a registry for
> these codes?
>
> As an editorial note, the header provided in the example for cdni
> metadata is not valid: "jwt-header": "1234abcd". That 1234abcd should
> probably be a valid jwt header instead.
>
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 1:46 AM Kevin Ma <kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> >   Today will begin the two-week WGLC on:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cdni-uri-signing-18
> >
> >   Please send any comments, questions, or concerns to the CDNI mailing
> list: cdni@ietf.org
> >
> >  The WGLC will end on Wednesday August 7, 2019, at which time, assuming
> there are no objections, we will submit the draft to the IESG
> >
> > thanx!
> >
> > --  Kevin, Phil, and Francois
> > _______________________________________________
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Chris,<div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 I don&#39;t see any re=
ason why we couldn&#39;t add a registry for the error codes.</div><div><br>=
</div><div>Phil,</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 Do you have any thoughts o=
n Chris&#39;s comments?</div><div><br></div><div>thanx.</div><div><br></div=
><div>--=C2=A0 Kevin J. Ma</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 2:23 PM Chris Lemmo=
ns &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:alficles@gmail.com">alficles@gmail.com</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">So I was rev=
iewing all the extension points. I noticed that although<br>
the s-uri-signing logging field is added to the IANA registry, the<br>
field itself is defined by a list of numbers that are themselves part<br>
of no registry. Since there&#39;s a one-to-one mapping between all failure<=
br>
types and a logging code, any extension claims cannot record an<br>
associated code. This will cause implementations to try to pick a<br>
&quot;related&quot; or &quot;generic&quot; logging code for validations tha=
t fail on<br>
account of a supported extension. (Unsupported extensions, of course,<br>
would record 409.) Is there a reasonable way to provide a registry for<br>
these codes?<br>
<br>
As an editorial note, the header provided in the example for cdni<br>
metadata is not valid: &quot;jwt-header&quot;: &quot;1234abcd&quot;. That 1=
234abcd should<br>
probably be a valid jwt header instead.<br>
<br>
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 1:46 AM Kevin Ma &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kevin.j.ma.i=
etf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
r>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Hi All,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0Today will begin the two-week WGLC on: <a href=3D"https://=
tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cdni-uri-signing-18" rel=3D"noreferrer" targ=
et=3D"_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cdni-uri-signing-18</a=
><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0Please send any comments, questions, or concerns to the CD=
NI mailing list: <a href=3D"mailto:cdni@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">cdni@ie=
tf.org</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 The WGLC will end on Wednesday August 7, 2019, at which time, as=
suming there are no objections, we will submit the draft to the IESG<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; thanx!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --=C2=A0 Kevin, Phil, and Francois<br>
&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; CDNi mailing list<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:CDNi@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">CDNi@ietf.org</a><b=
r>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cdni" rel=3D"noreferr=
er" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cdni</a><br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
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Hi All,

  Having heard no objections, we will consider the WGLC closed and move
forward with submitting the draft.

thanx!

--  Kevin, Phil, and Francois

On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 1:42 AM Kevin Ma <kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
>   Today will begin the two-week WGLC on:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-03
>
>   Please send any comments, questions, or concerns to the CDNI mailing
> list: cdni@ietf.org
>
>  The WGLC will end on Wednesday August 7, 2019, at which time, assuming there are no objections, we will submit the draft to the IESG
>
> thanx!
>
> --  Kevin, Phil, and Francois
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi All,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></d=
iv><div>=C2=A0 Having heard no objections, we will consider the WGLC closed=
 and move forward with submitting the draft.</div><div><br></div><div>thanx=
!</div><div><br></div><div>--=C2=A0 Kevin, Phil, and Francois</div><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 24=
, 2019 at 1:42 AM Kevin Ma &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com"=
>kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,2=
04,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi All,<div><br></div><div>=C2=
=A0=C2=A0<span style=3D"color:rgb(33,37,41);font-family:SFMono-Regular,Menl=
o,Monaco,Consolas,&quot;Liberation Mono&quot;,&quot;Courier New&quot;,monos=
pace;font-size:12.25px;white-space:pre-wrap">Today will begin the two-week =
WGLC on: </span><a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cdni-requ=
est-routing-extensions-03" target=3D"_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/html/dr=
aft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-03</a></div><div><br></div><div>=
=C2=A0=C2=A0<span style=3D"color:rgb(33,37,41);font-family:SFMono-Regular,M=
enlo,Monaco,Consolas,&quot;Liberation Mono&quot;,&quot;Courier New&quot;,mo=
nospace;font-size:12.25px;white-space:pre-wrap">Please send any comments, q=
uestions, or concerns to the CDNI mailing list: </span><a href=3D"mailto:cd=
ni@ietf.org" style=3D"font-family:SFMono-Regular,Menlo,Monaco,Consolas,&quo=
t;Liberation Mono&quot;,&quot;Courier New&quot;,monospace;font-size:12.25px=
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lor:rgb(51,122,183);text-decoration-line:none" target=3D"_blank">cdni@ietf.=
org</a></div><pre class=3D"gmail-m_-3531722765705695677gmail-wordwrap" styl=
e=3D"box-sizing:border-box;font-family:SFMono-Regular,Menlo,Monaco,Consolas=
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.25px;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:1rem;overflow:auto;color:rgb(33,37,41);w=
hite-space:pre-wrap;word-break:normal;padding:0px"> The WGLC will end on We=
dnesday August 7, 2019, at which time, assuming there are no objections, we=
 will submit the draft to the IESG

thanx!
</pre>--=C2=A0 Kevin, Phil, and Francois</div>
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Hi All,

  The WGLC has now closed.  There were no major objections.  We will
address Chris's comments and move forward with submitting the draft.

thanx!

--  Kevin, Phil, and Francois

On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 1:46 AM Kevin Ma <kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
>   Today will begin the two-week WGLC on:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cdni-uri-signing-18
>
>   Please send any comments, questions, or concerns to the CDNI mailing
> list: cdni@ietf.org
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>  The WGLC will end on Wednesday August 7, 2019, at which time, assuming there are no objections, we will submit the draft to the IESG
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> thanx!
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi All,<br><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 The=
 WGLC has now closed.=C2=A0 There were no major objections.=C2=A0 We will a=
ddress Chris&#39;s comments and move forward with submitting the draft.</di=
v><div><br></div><div>thanx!</div><div><br></div><div>--=C2=A0 Kevin, Phil,=
 and Francois</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cl=
ass=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 1:46 AM Kevin Ma &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com">kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<=
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>Today will begin the two-week WGLC on: </span><a href=3D"https://tools.iet=
f.org/html/draft-ietf-cdni-uri-signing-18" target=3D"_blank">https://tools.=
ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cdni-uri-signing-18</a></div><div><br></div><div>=
=C2=A0=C2=A0<span style=3D"color:rgb(33,37,41);font-family:SFMono-Regular,M=
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org</a></div><div><br></div><pre class=3D"gmail-m_8412339884294943487gmail-=
m_-4157888197409546350gmail-wordwrap" style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap;box-siz=
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time, assuming there are no objections, we will submit the draft to the IES=
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thanx!
</pre>--=C2=A0 Kevin, Phil, and Francois<br></div>
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Hi Ori,

  IDnits notes one issue: non-RFC2606-compliant FQDNs

https://www6.ietf.org/tools/idnits?url=https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-04.txt

  I'm guessing it's: service123.ucdn.example.dcdn.com, which doesn't end in
.example.com ?

Do you think we can fix that?

thanx!

-- Kevin J. Ma


On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 5:26 AM Ori Finkelman (IETF) <
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> Thanks Kevin.
> I will wait for group comments and will publish an updated version with
> the comments you have sent here.
>
> Best regards,
> Ori
>
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 8:38 AM Kevin Ma <kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sanjay,
>>
>>   The updates look good.  Two final comments:
>>   - section 2.1: "non empty" -> "non-empty"
>>   - sections 6/7: if there are no acknowledgements or contributors, those
>> two sections can just be removed.
>>
>>   Those comments notwithstanding, I think we can start the WGLC.
>>
>> thanx..
>>
>> --  Kevin J. Ma
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 9:20 AM <sanjay.mishra=
>> 40verizon.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Since there is no CDNI meeting on the agenda, I wanted to ask if chairs
>>> have any additional questions or questions in the mailing list towards
>>> advancing draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-03.txt to WGLC?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Sanjay
>>>
>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Ori,<div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 IDnits notes one issue:=
=C2=A0<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">non-RFC2606-com=
pliant FQDNs</span></div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www6.ietf.org/=
tools/idnits?url=3Dhttps://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-cdni-request-=
routing-extensions-04.txt">https://www6.ietf.org/tools/idnits?url=3Dhttps:/=
/www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-04.txt<=
/a></div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 I&#39;m guessing it&#39;s:=C2=A0<span s=
tyle=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><a href=3D"http://service123=
.ucdn.example.dcdn.com">service123.ucdn.example.dcdn.com</a>, which doesn&#=
39;t end in .<a href=3D"http://example.com">example.com</a> ?</span></div><=
div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div>=
<div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">  Do you think w=
e can fix that?</span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-spac=
e:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-spa=
ce:pre-wrap">thanx!</span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-=
space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white=
-space:pre-wrap">--  Kevin J. Ma</span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(=
0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 5:26 =
AM Ori Finkelman (IETF) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com"=
>ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks Kevin.<div>I will wait=
 for group comments and will publish an updated version with the comments y=
ou have sent here.</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div>Ori</di=
v></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr=
">On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 8:38 AM Kevin Ma &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kevin.j.ma=
.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:=
<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8=
ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Sanjay,<div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 The updates look go=
od.=C2=A0 Two final comments:</div><div>=C2=A0 - section 2.1: &quot;non emp=
ty&quot; -&gt; &quot;non-empty&quot;</div><div>=C2=A0 - sections 6/7: if th=
ere are no acknowledgements or contributors, those two sections can just be=
 removed.</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 Those comments notwithstanding, I=
 think we can start the WGLC.</div><div><br></div><div>thanx..</div><div><b=
r></div><div>--=C2=A0 Kevin J. Ma</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 9:20 AM &lt;=
sanjay.mishra=3D<a href=3D"mailto:40verizon.com@dmarc.ietf.org" target=3D"_=
blank">40verizon.com@dmarc.ietf.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cla=
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rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">





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ng list towards advancing draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-03.txt=
 to WGLC?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sanjay<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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Hi Kevin,
I am aware of that, the thing is that for this example we need two separate
domains, one of the uCDN and the other of the dCDN, putting them both under
the same domain example.com defeats the purpose.

Maybe we can put them as ucdn.example.com and dcdn.example.net ?

Thanks,
Ori

On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 4:06 AM Kevin Ma <kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Ori,
>
>   IDnits notes one issue: non-RFC2606-compliant FQDNs
>
> https://www6.ietf.org/tools/idnits?url=https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-04.txt
>
>   I'm guessing it's: service123.ucdn.example.dcdn.com, which doesn't end
> in .example.com ?
>
> Do you think we can fix that?
>
> thanx!
>
> -- Kevin J. Ma
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 5:26 AM Ori Finkelman (IETF) <
> ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Kevin.
>> I will wait for group comments and will publish an updated version with
>> the comments you have sent here.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Ori
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 8:38 AM Kevin Ma <kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Sanjay,
>>>
>>>   The updates look good.  Two final comments:
>>>   - section 2.1: "non empty" -> "non-empty"
>>>   - sections 6/7: if there are no acknowledgements or contributors,
>>> those two sections can just be removed.
>>>
>>>   Those comments notwithstanding, I think we can start the WGLC.
>>>
>>> thanx..
>>>
>>> --  Kevin J. Ma
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 9:20 AM <sanjay.mishra=
>>> 40verizon.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Since there is no CDNI meeting on the agenda, I wanted to ask if chairs
>>>> have any additional questions or questions in the mailing list towards
>>>> advancing draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-03.txt to WGLC?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Sanjay
>>>>
>>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Kevin,<div><div>I am aware of that, the thing is that f=
or this example we need two separate domains, one of the uCDN and the other=
 of the dCDN, putting them both under the same domain <a href=3D"http://exa=
mple.com">example.com</a> defeats the purpose.</div></div><div><br></div><d=
iv>Maybe we can put them as <a href=3D"http://ucdn.example.com">ucdn.exampl=
e.com</a> and <a href=3D"http://dcdn.example.net">dcdn.example.net</a> ?</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Ori</div></div><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 4:=
06 AM Kevin Ma &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com">kevin.j.ma.=
ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padd=
ing-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Ori,<div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 IDnits not=
es one issue:=C2=A0<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">no=
n-RFC2606-compliant FQDNs</span></div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://w=
ww6.ietf.org/tools/idnits?url=3Dhttps://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-=
cdni-request-routing-extensions-04.txt" target=3D"_blank">https://www6.ietf=
.org/tools/idnits?url=3Dhttps://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-cdni-req=
uest-routing-extensions-04.txt</a></div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 I&#39;m =
guessing it&#39;s:=C2=A0<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wra=
p"><a href=3D"http://service123.ucdn.example.dcdn.com" target=3D"_blank">se=
rvice123.ucdn.example.dcdn.com</a>, which doesn&#39;t end in .<a href=3D"ht=
tp://example.com" target=3D"_blank">example.com</a> ?</span></div><div><spa=
n style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div><sp=
an style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">  Do you think we can fi=
x that?</span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wr=
ap"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-w=
rap">thanx!</span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pr=
e-wrap"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:p=
re-wrap">--  Kevin J. Ma</span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);w=
hite-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 5:26 AM Ori F=
inkelman (IETF) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px s=
olid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks Kevin.<div>=
I will wait for group comments and will publish an updated version with the=
 comments you have sent here.</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><=
div>Ori</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 8:38 AM Kevin Ma &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Sanjay,<div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 The upda=
tes look good.=C2=A0 Two final comments:</div><div>=C2=A0 - section 2.1: &q=
uot;non empty&quot; -&gt; &quot;non-empty&quot;</div><div>=C2=A0 - sections=
 6/7: if there are no acknowledgements or contributors, those two sections =
can just be removed.</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 Those comments notwith=
standing, I think we can start the WGLC.</div><div><br></div><div>thanx..</=
div><div><br></div><div>--=C2=A0 Kevin J. Ma</div></div><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 9=
:20 AM &lt;sanjay.mishra=3D<a href=3D"mailto:40verizon.com@dmarc.ietf.org" =
target=3D"_blank">40verizon.com@dmarc.ietf.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sanjay<u></u><u></u></p>
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Hi Ori,

  Understood.  I think for the purposes of this document .ucdn.example.com a=
nd .dcdn.example.com should be ok and make things simpler with not having to=
 explain nits.

thanx!

--  Kevin J. Ma

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 8, 2019, at 1:54 PM, Ori Finkelman (IETF) <ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail=
.com> wrote:
>=20
> Hi Kevin,
> I am aware of that, the thing is that for this example we need two separat=
e domains, one of the uCDN and the other of the dCDN, putting them both unde=
r the same domain example.com defeats the purpose.
>=20
> Maybe we can put them as ucdn.example.com and dcdn.example.net ?
>=20
> Thanks,
> Ori
>=20
>> On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 4:06 AM Kevin Ma <kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com> wrote=
:
>> Hi Ori,
>>=20
>>   IDnits notes one issue: non-RFC2606-compliant FQDNs
>>   https://www6.ietf.org/tools/idnits?url=3Dhttps://www.ietf.org/archive/i=
d/draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-04.txt
>>=20
>>   I'm guessing it's: service123.ucdn.example.dcdn.com, which doesn't end i=
n .example.com ?
>>=20
>>   Do you think we can fix that?
>>=20
>> thanx!
>>=20
>> --  Kevin J. Ma
>>=20
>>=20
>>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 5:26 AM Ori Finkelman (IETF) <ori.finkelman.ietf=
@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Thanks Kevin.
>>> I will wait for group comments and will publish an updated version with t=
he comments you have sent here.
>>>=20
>>> Best regards,
>>> Ori
>>>=20
>>>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 8:38 AM Kevin Ma <kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com> wr=
ote:
>>>> Hi Sanjay,
>>>>=20
>>>>   The updates look good.  Two final comments:
>>>>   - section 2.1: "non empty" -> "non-empty"
>>>>   - sections 6/7: if there are no acknowledgements or contributors, tho=
se two sections can just be removed.
>>>>=20
>>>>   Those comments notwithstanding, I think we can start the WGLC.
>>>>=20
>>>> thanx..
>>>>=20
>>>> --  Kevin J. Ma
>>>>=20
>>>>> On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 9:20 AM <sanjay.mishra=3D40verizon.com@dmarc.i=
etf.org> wrote:
>>>>> Since there is no CDNI meeting on the agenda, I wanted to ask if chair=
s have any additional questions or questions in the mailing list towards adv=
ancing draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-03.txt to WGLC?
>>>>>=20
>>>>> =20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Sanjay
>>>>>=20
>>>>> =20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Hi Ori,<div><br></div><div>&nbsp; Understoo=
d. &nbsp;I think for the purposes of this document .<a href=3D"http://ucdn.e=
xample.com">ucdn.example.com</a> and .<a href=3D"http://dcdn.example.com">dc=
dn.example.com</a> should be ok and make things simpler with not having to e=
xplain nits.</div><div><br></div><div>thanx!</div><div><br></div><div>-- &nb=
sp;Kevin J. Ma<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Sent from m=
y iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Aug 8, 2019, at 1:54 PM, Ori Finkelman=
 (IETF) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com">ori.finkelman.ie=
tf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Kevin,<div><div>I am aware of that, the thing is t=
hat for this example we need two separate domains, one of the uCDN and the o=
ther of the dCDN, putting them both under the same domain <a href=3D"http://=
example.com">example.com</a> defeats the purpose.</div></div><div><br></div>=
<div>Maybe we can put them as <a href=3D"http://ucdn.example.com">ucdn.examp=
le.com</a> and <a href=3D"http://dcdn.example.net">dcdn.example.net</a> ?</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Ori</div></div><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 4:06=
 AM Kevin Ma &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com">kevin.j.ma.iet=
f@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-lef=
t:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Ori,<div><br></div><div>&nbsp; IDnits notes one i=
ssue:&nbsp;<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">non-RFC2606=
-compliant FQDNs</span></div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=3D"https://www6.ietf.o=
rg/tools/idnits?url=3Dhttps://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-cdni-reques=
t-routing-extensions-04.txt" target=3D"_blank">https://www6.ietf.org/tools/i=
dnits?url=3Dhttps://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-=
extensions-04.txt</a></div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp; I'm guessing it's:&nbs=
p;<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><a href=3D"http://se=
rvice123.ucdn.example.dcdn.com" target=3D"_blank">service123.ucdn.example.dc=
dn.com</a>, which doesn't end in .<a href=3D"http://example.com" target=3D"_=
blank">example.com</a> ?</span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);wh=
ite-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);wh=
ite-space:pre-wrap">  Do you think we can fix that?</span></div><div><span s=
tyle=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div><span s=
tyle=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">thanx!</span></div><div><span=
 style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div><span=
 style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">--  Kevin J. Ma</span></div=
><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div=
></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">=
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 5:26 AM Ori Finkelman (IETF) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:o=
ri.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">Thanks Kevin.<div>I will wait for group comments and will publ=
ish an updated version with the comments you have sent here.</div><div><br><=
/div><div>Best regards,</div><div>Ori</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 8:38 AM Ke=
vin Ma &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">ke=
vin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,20=
4);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Sanjay,<div><br></=
div><div>&nbsp; The updates look good.&nbsp; Two final comments:</div><div>&=
nbsp; - section 2.1: "non empty" -&gt; "non-empty"</div><div>&nbsp; - sectio=
ns 6/7: if there are no acknowledgements or contributors, those two sections=
 can just be removed.</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp; Those comments notwith=
standing, I think we can start the WGLC.</div><div><br></div><div>thanx..</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>--&nbsp; Kevin J. Ma</div></div><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 9:20=
 AM &lt;sanjay.mishra=3D<a href=3D"mailto:40verizon.com@dmarc.ietf.org" targ=
et=3D"_blank">40verizon.com@dmarc.ietf.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px s=
olid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">





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ok, will change accordingly and resubmit.

Thanks,
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wrote:

> Hi Ori,
>
>   Understood.  I think for the purposes of this document .ucdn.example.com
> and .dcdn.example.com should be ok and make things simpler with not
> having to explain nits.
>
> thanx!
>
> --  Kevin J. Ma
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 8, 2019, at 1:54 PM, Ori Finkelman (IETF) <
> ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Kevin,
> I am aware of that, the thing is that for this example we need two
> separate domains, one of the uCDN and the other of the dCDN, putting them
> both under the same domain example.com defeats the purpose.
>
> Maybe we can put them as ucdn.example.com and dcdn.example.net ?
>
> Thanks,
> Ori
>
> On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 4:06 AM Kevin Ma <kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ori,
>>
>>   IDnits notes one issue: non-RFC2606-compliant FQDNs
>>
>> https://www6.ietf.org/tools/idnits?url=https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-04.txt
>>
>>   I'm guessing it's: service123.ucdn.example.dcdn.com, which doesn't end
>> in .example.com ?
>>
>> Do you think we can fix that?
>>
>> thanx!
>>
>> -- Kevin J. Ma
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 5:26 AM Ori Finkelman (IETF) <
>> ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Kevin.
>>> I will wait for group comments and will publish an updated version with
>>> the comments you have sent here.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Ori
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 8:38 AM Kevin Ma <kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Sanjay,
>>>>
>>>>   The updates look good.  Two final comments:
>>>>   - section 2.1: "non empty" -> "non-empty"
>>>>   - sections 6/7: if there are no acknowledgements or contributors,
>>>> those two sections can just be removed.
>>>>
>>>>   Those comments notwithstanding, I think we can start the WGLC.
>>>>
>>>> thanx..
>>>>
>>>> --  Kevin J. Ma
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 9:20 AM <sanjay.mishra=
>>>> 40verizon.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Since there is no CDNI meeting on the agenda, I wanted to ask if
>>>>> chairs have any additional questions or questions in the mailing list
>>>>> towards advancing draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-03.txt to WGLC?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Sanjay
>>>>>
>>>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>ok, will change accordingly and resubmit.</div><div><=
br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Ori</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 9:55 PM Kev=
in J. Ma &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com">kevin.j.ma.ietf@g=
mail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-le=
ft:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Hi Ori,<div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 Understood.=C2=
=A0 I think for the purposes of this document .<a href=3D"http://ucdn.examp=
le.com" target=3D"_blank">ucdn.example.com</a> and .<a href=3D"http://dcdn.=
example.com" target=3D"_blank">dcdn.example.com</a> should be ok and make t=
hings simpler with not having to explain nits.</div><div><br></div><div>tha=
nx!</div><div><br></div><div>-- =C2=A0Kevin J. Ma<br><br><div id=3D"gmail-m=
_6596874209981833523AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Aug 8, 2019, at 1:54 PM, Ori Finkelman (IETF) &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">ori.fink=
elman.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Kevin,<div><div>I am aware of that, th=
e thing is that for this example we need two separate domains, one of the u=
CDN and the other of the dCDN, putting them both under the same domain <a h=
ref=3D"http://example.com" target=3D"_blank">example.com</a> defeats the pu=
rpose.</div></div><div><br></div><div>Maybe we can put them as <a href=3D"h=
ttp://ucdn.example.com" target=3D"_blank">ucdn.example.com</a> and <a href=
=3D"http://dcdn.example.net" target=3D"_blank">dcdn.example.net</a> ?</div>=
<div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Ori</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 4:06 =
AM Kevin Ma &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Ori,<div><br></div><div>=
=C2=A0 IDnits notes one issue:=C2=A0<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-s=
pace:pre-wrap">non-RFC2606-compliant FQDNs</span></div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0<a =
href=3D"https://www6.ietf.org/tools/idnits?url=3Dhttps://www.ietf.org/archi=
ve/id/draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-04.txt" target=3D"_blank">=
https://www6.ietf.org/tools/idnits?url=3Dhttps://www.ietf.org/archive/id/dr=
aft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-04.txt</a></div><div><br></div><di=
v>=C2=A0 I&#39;m guessing it&#39;s:=C2=A0<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);wh=
ite-space:pre-wrap"><a href=3D"http://service123.ucdn.example.dcdn.com" tar=
get=3D"_blank">service123.ucdn.example.dcdn.com</a>, which doesn&#39;t end =
in .<a href=3D"http://example.com" target=3D"_blank">example.com</a> ?</spa=
n></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><br></sp=
an></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">  Do yo=
u think we can fix that?</span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);w=
hite-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);=
white-space:pre-wrap">thanx!</span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,=
0);white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0=
,0);white-space:pre-wrap">--  Kevin J. Ma</span></div><div><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 24, 2019=
 at 5:26 AM Ori Finkelman (IETF) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ori.finkelman.ietf@g=
mail.com" target=3D"_blank">ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>=
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;b=
order-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Th=
anks Kevin.<div>I will wait for group comments and will publish an updated =
version with the comments you have sent here.</div><div><br></div><div>Best=
 regards,</div><div>Ori</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 8:38 AM Kevin Ma &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">kevin.j.ma.i=
etf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddi=
ng-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Sanjay,<div><br></div><di=
v>=C2=A0 The updates look good.=C2=A0 Two final comments:</div><div>=C2=A0 =
- section 2.1: &quot;non empty&quot; -&gt; &quot;non-empty&quot;</div><div>=
=C2=A0 - sections 6/7: if there are no acknowledgements or contributors, th=
ose two sections can just be removed.</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 Those=
 comments notwithstanding, I think we can start the WGLC.</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>thanx..</div><div><br></div><div>--=C2=A0 Kevin J. Ma</div></div><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, =
Jun 30, 2019 at 9:20 AM &lt;sanjay.mishra=3D<a href=3D"mailto:40verizon.com=
@dmarc.ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">40verizon.com@dmarc.ietf.org</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">





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m_-1560416173317037650gmail-m_2437709577753676577gmail-m_-19392149390828287=
42WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Since there is no CDNI meeting on the agenda, I want=
ed to ask if chairs have any additional questions or questions in the maili=
ng list towards advancing draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-03.txt=
 to WGLC?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sanjay<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Content Delivery Networks Interconnection WG of the IETF.

        Title           : CDNI Request Routing Extensions
        Authors         : Ori Finkelman
                          Sanjay Mishra
	Filename        : draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-05.txt
	Pages           : 12
	Date            : 2019-08-09

Abstract:
   The Open Caching working group of the Streaming Video Alliance is
   focused on the delegation of video delivery requests from commercial
   CDNs to a caching layer at the ISP.  In that aspect, Open Caching is
   a specific use case of CDNI, where the commercial CDN is the upstream
   CDN (uCDN) and the ISP caching layer is the downstream CDN (dCDN).
   The extensions specified in this document to the CDNI Metadata and
   FCI interfaces are derived from requirements raised by Open Caching
   but are applicable to CDNI use cases in general.



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Fixed, submitted version 05.
Thanks,
Ori

On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 10:04 PM Ori Finkelman (IETF) <
ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> ok, will change accordingly and resubmit.
>
> Thanks,
> Ori
>
> On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 9:55 PM Kevin J. Ma <kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ori,
>>
>>   Understood.  I think for the purposes of this document .
>> ucdn.example.com and .dcdn.example.com should be ok and make things
>> simpler with not having to explain nits.
>>
>> thanx!
>>
>> --  Kevin J. Ma
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 8, 2019, at 1:54 PM, Ori Finkelman (IETF) <
>> ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Kevin,
>> I am aware of that, the thing is that for this example we need two
>> separate domains, one of the uCDN and the other of the dCDN, putting them
>> both under the same domain example.com defeats the purpose.
>>
>> Maybe we can put them as ucdn.example.com and dcdn.example.net ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ori
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 4:06 AM Kevin Ma <kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ori,
>>>
>>>   IDnits notes one issue: non-RFC2606-compliant FQDNs
>>>
>>> https://www6.ietf.org/tools/idnits?url=https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-04.txt
>>>
>>>   I'm guessing it's: service123.ucdn.example.dcdn.com, which doesn't
>>> end in .example.com ?
>>>
>>> Do you think we can fix that?
>>>
>>> thanx!
>>>
>>> -- Kevin J. Ma
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 5:26 AM Ori Finkelman (IETF) <
>>> ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Kevin.
>>>> I will wait for group comments and will publish an updated version with
>>>> the comments you have sent here.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Ori
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 8:38 AM Kevin Ma <kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Sanjay,
>>>>>
>>>>>   The updates look good.  Two final comments:
>>>>>   - section 2.1: "non empty" -> "non-empty"
>>>>>   - sections 6/7: if there are no acknowledgements or contributors,
>>>>> those two sections can just be removed.
>>>>>
>>>>>   Those comments notwithstanding, I think we can start the WGLC.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanx..
>>>>>
>>>>> --  Kevin J. Ma
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 9:20 AM <sanjay.mishra=
>>>>> 40verizon.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Since there is no CDNI meeting on the agenda, I wanted to ask if
>>>>>> chairs have any additional questions or questions in the mailing list
>>>>>> towards advancing draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-03.txt to WGLC?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sanjay
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> CDNi mailing list
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"><div>ok, will change accordingly and resubmit.</div><div><br></div><div>T=
hanks,</div><div>Ori</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"=
ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 9:55 PM Kevin J. Ma &lt;<a=
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f@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Hi Ori,<div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 Understood.=
=C2=A0 I think for the purposes of this document .<a href=3D"http://ucdn.ex=
ample.com" target=3D"_blank">ucdn.example.com</a> and .<a href=3D"http://dc=
dn.example.com" target=3D"_blank">dcdn.example.com</a> should be ok and mak=
e things simpler with not having to explain nits.</div><div><br></div><div>=
thanx!</div><div><br></div><div>-- =C2=A0Kevin J. Ma<br><br><div id=3D"gmai=
l-m_4253131965181776501gmail-m_6596874209981833523AppleMailSignature" dir=
=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Aug 8, 2019, at 1=
:54 PM, Ori Finkelman (IETF) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail=
.com" target=3D"_blank">ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>=
</div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Kevin,=
<div><div>I am aware of that, the thing is that for this example we need tw=
o separate domains, one of the uCDN and the other of the dCDN, putting them=
 both under the same domain <a href=3D"http://example.com" target=3D"_blank=
">example.com</a> defeats the purpose.</div></div><div><br></div><div>Maybe=
 we can put them as <a href=3D"http://ucdn.example.com" target=3D"_blank">u=
cdn.example.com</a> and <a href=3D"http://dcdn.example.net" target=3D"_blan=
k">dcdn.example.net</a> ?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Ori</d=
iv></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_att=
r">On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 4:06 AM Kevin Ma &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kevin.j.ma=
.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:=
<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8=
ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr=
">Hi Ori,<div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 IDnits notes one issue:=C2=A0<span styl=
e=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">non-RFC2606-compliant FQDNs</sp=
an></div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www6.ietf.org/tools/idnits?url=
=3Dhttps://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensio=
ns-04.txt" target=3D"_blank">https://www6.ietf.org/tools/idnits?url=3Dhttps=
://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-04.tx=
t</a></div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 I&#39;m guessing it&#39;s:=C2=A0<span=
 style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><a href=3D"http://service1=
23.ucdn.example.dcdn.com" target=3D"_blank">service123.ucdn.example.dcdn.co=
m</a>, which doesn&#39;t end in .<a href=3D"http://example.com" target=3D"_=
blank">example.com</a> ?</span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);w=
hite-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);=
white-space:pre-wrap">  Do you think we can fix that?</span></div><div><spa=
n style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div><sp=
an style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">thanx!</span></div><div>=
<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div=
><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">--  Kevin J. Ma</spa=
n></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><br></sp=
an></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gma=
il_attr">On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 5:26 AM Ori Finkelman (IETF) &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">ori.finkelman.ie=
tf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddin=
g-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks Kevin.<div>I will wait for group commen=
ts and will publish an updated version with the comments you have sent here=
.</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div>Ori</div></div><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 24,=
 2019 at 8:38 AM Kevin Ma &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com" =
target=3D"_blank">kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1p=
x solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr=
">Hi Sanjay,<div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 The updates look good.=C2=A0 Two fin=
al comments:</div><div>=C2=A0 - section 2.1: &quot;non empty&quot; -&gt; &q=
uot;non-empty&quot;</div><div>=C2=A0 - sections 6/7: if there are no acknow=
ledgements or contributors, those two sections can just be removed.</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>=C2=A0 Those comments notwithstanding, I think we can sta=
rt the WGLC.</div><div><br></div><div>thanx..</div><div><br></div><div>--=
=C2=A0 Kevin J. Ma</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"lt=
r" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 9:20 AM &lt;sanjay.mishra=
=3D<a href=3D"mailto:40verizon.com@dmarc.ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">40veri=
zon.com@dmarc.ietf.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,2=
04);padding-left:1ex">





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7gmail-m_-1939214939082828742WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Since there is no CDNI meeting on the agenda, I want=
ed to ask if chairs have any additional questions or questions in the maili=
ng list towards advancing draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-03.txt=
 to WGLC?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sanjay<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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Hi Ori,

  I completed the shepherd writeup and have submitted the draft to the IESG.

thanx!

--  Kevin J. Ma

On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 3:46 AM Ori Finkelman (IETF) <
ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Fixed, submitted version 05.
> Thanks,
> Ori
>
> On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 10:04 PM Ori Finkelman (IETF) <
> ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ok, will change accordingly and resubmit.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ori
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 9:55 PM Kevin J. Ma <kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ori,
>>>
>>>   Understood.  I think for the purposes of this document .
>>> ucdn.example.com and .dcdn.example.com should be ok and make things
>>> simpler with not having to explain nits.
>>>
>>> thanx!
>>>
>>> --  Kevin J. Ma
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Aug 8, 2019, at 1:54 PM, Ori Finkelman (IETF) <
>>> ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Kevin,
>>> I am aware of that, the thing is that for this example we need two
>>> separate domains, one of the uCDN and the other of the dCDN, putting them
>>> both under the same domain example.com defeats the purpose.
>>>
>>> Maybe we can put them as ucdn.example.com and dcdn.example.net ?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ori
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 4:06 AM Kevin Ma <kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Ori,
>>>>
>>>>   IDnits notes one issue: non-RFC2606-compliant FQDNs
>>>>
>>>> https://www6.ietf.org/tools/idnits?url=https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-04.txt
>>>>
>>>>   I'm guessing it's: service123.ucdn.example.dcdn.com, which doesn't
>>>> end in .example.com ?
>>>>
>>>> Do you think we can fix that?
>>>>
>>>> thanx!
>>>>
>>>> -- Kevin J. Ma
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 5:26 AM Ori Finkelman (IETF) <
>>>> ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Kevin.
>>>>> I will wait for group comments and will publish an updated version
>>>>> with the comments you have sent here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Ori
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 8:38 AM Kevin Ma <kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Sanjay,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   The updates look good.  Two final comments:
>>>>>>   - section 2.1: "non empty" -> "non-empty"
>>>>>>   - sections 6/7: if there are no acknowledgements or contributors,
>>>>>> those two sections can just be removed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Those comments notwithstanding, I think we can start the WGLC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanx..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --  Kevin J. Ma
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 9:20 AM <sanjay.mishra=
>>>>>> 40verizon.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since there is no CDNI meeting on the agenda, I wanted to ask if
>>>>>>> chairs have any additional questions or questions in the mailing list
>>>>>>> towards advancing draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-03.txt to WGLC?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sanjay
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Ori,<div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 I completed the shepherd=
 writeup and have submitted the draft to the IESG.<div><br></div><div>thanx=
!</div><div><br></div><div>--=C2=A0 Kevin J. Ma</div></div></div><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 9, 2=
019 at 3:46 AM Ori Finkelman (IETF) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ori.finkelman.iet=
f@gmail.com">ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px =
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Fixed, submitted =
version 05.<div>Thanks,</div><div>Ori</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 10:04 PM =
Ori Finkelman (IETF) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1=
px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>ok, will =
change accordingly and resubmit.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div=
>Ori</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gm=
ail_attr">On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 9:55 PM Kevin J. Ma &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div =
dir=3D"auto">Hi Ori,<div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 Understood.=C2=A0 I think fo=
r the purposes of this document .<a href=3D"http://ucdn.example.com" target=
=3D"_blank">ucdn.example.com</a> and .<a href=3D"http://dcdn.example.com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">dcdn.example.com</a> should be ok and make things simpler =
with not having to explain nits.</div><div><br></div><div>thanx!</div><div>=
<br></div><div>-- =C2=A0Kevin J. Ma<br><br><div id=3D"gmail-m_-398304610904=
9155534gmail-m_4253131965181776501gmail-m_6596874209981833523AppleMailSigna=
ture" dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Aug 8, 2=
019, at 1:54 PM, Ori Finkelman (IETF) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ori.finkelman.i=
etf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">=
Hi Kevin,<div><div>I am aware of that, the thing is that for this example w=
e need two separate domains, one of the uCDN and the other of the dCDN, put=
ting them both under the same domain <a href=3D"http://example.com" target=
=3D"_blank">example.com</a> defeats the purpose.</div></div><div><br></div>=
<div>Maybe we can put them as <a href=3D"http://ucdn.example.com" target=3D=
"_blank">ucdn.example.com</a> and <a href=3D"http://dcdn.example.net" targe=
t=3D"_blank">dcdn.example.net</a> ?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><=
div>Ori</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
"gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 4:06 AM Kevin Ma &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div =
dir=3D"ltr">Hi Ori,<div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 IDnits notes one issue:=C2=A0=
<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">non-RFC2606-compliant=
 FQDNs</span></div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www6.ietf.org/tools/=
idnits?url=3Dhttps://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-cdni-request-routin=
g-extensions-04.txt" target=3D"_blank">https://www6.ietf.org/tools/idnits?u=
rl=3Dhttps://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extens=
ions-04.txt</a></div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 I&#39;m guessing it&#39;s:=
=C2=A0<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><a href=3D"http=
://service123.ucdn.example.dcdn.com" target=3D"_blank">service123.ucdn.exam=
ple.dcdn.com</a>, which doesn&#39;t end in .<a href=3D"http://example.com" =
target=3D"_blank">example.com</a> ?</span></div><div><span style=3D"color:r=
gb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"color:=
rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">  Do you think we can fix that?</span></di=
v><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></d=
iv><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">thanx!</span>=
</div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span=
></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">--  Kevin=
 J. Ma</span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wra=
p"><br></span></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" c=
lass=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 5:26 AM Ori Finkelman (IETF) &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">ori.fin=
kelman.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,20=
4);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks Kevin.<div>I will wait for gro=
up comments and will publish an updated version with the comments you have =
sent here.</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div>Ori</div></div>=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed=
, Jul 24, 2019 at 8:38 AM Kevin Ma &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kevin.j.ma.ietf@gm=
ail.com" target=3D"_blank">kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></di=
v><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;borde=
r-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">Hi Sanjay,<div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 The updates look good.=C2=
=A0 Two final comments:</div><div>=C2=A0 - section 2.1: &quot;non empty&quo=
t; -&gt; &quot;non-empty&quot;</div><div>=C2=A0 - sections 6/7: if there ar=
e no acknowledgements or contributors, those two sections can just be remov=
ed.</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 Those comments notwithstanding, I think=
 we can start the WGLC.</div><div><br></div><div>thanx..</div><div><br></di=
v><div>--=C2=A0 Kevin J. Ma</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 9:20 AM &lt;sanjay=
.mishra=3D<a href=3D"mailto:40verizon.com@dmarc.ietf.org" target=3D"_blank"=
>40verizon.com@dmarc.ietf.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex">





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50gmail-m_2437709577753676577gmail-m_-1939214939082828742WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Since there is no CDNI meeting on the agenda, I want=
ed to ask if chairs have any additional questions or questions in the maili=
ng list towards advancing draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-03.txt=
 to WGLC?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sanjay<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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Thanks for the publication request for this document.  I have a few
comments, none of which will block last call, so I'll request last
call after I send this.  Please address these comments along with any
last-call comments and those from the area review teams.

1. Please use the new BCP 14 boilerplate and references: see RFC 8174.

2. Abstract vs Introduction:  The sentence about the SVA seems out of
place in the Abstract, and is oddly missing from the Introduction.  I
would add the first two sentences of the Abstract to the Introduction.
Then remove the first sentence from the Abstract and also remove =E2=80=9CI=
n
that aspect,=E2=80=9D from the second sentence.

3. RFC 6707 defines necessary terminology, so it probably should be
normative.  I will note a downref in the last-call notice in
anticipation of that.

Barry


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The IESG has received a request from the Content Delivery Networks
Interconnection WG (cdni) to consider the following document: - 'CDNI Request
Routing Extensions'
  <draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-05.txt> as Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final
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Abstract

   The Open Caching working group of the Streaming Video Alliance is
   focused on the delegation of video delivery requests from commercial
   CDNs to a caching layer at the ISP.  In that aspect, Open Caching is
   a specific use case of CDNI, where the commercial CDN is the upstream
   CDN (uCDN) and the ISP caching layer is the downstream CDN (dCDN).
   The extensions specified in this document to the CDNI Metadata and
   FCI interfaces are derived from requirements raised by Open Caching
   but are applicable to CDNI use cases in general.


There is currently an informative reference to RFC 6707, "CDNI Problem Statement".
The reference is there to define necessary terminology, and will probably be moved to
be a normative reference in the next revision.  Please treat that Informational document
as a downref when reviewing this document.


The file can be obtained via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions/

IESG discussion can be tracked via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions/ballot/


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Thanks Kevin,

Best regards,
Ori

On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 9:42 PM Kevin Ma <kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Ori,
>
>   I completed the shepherd writeup and have submitted the draft to the
> IESG.
>
> thanx!
>
> --  Kevin J. Ma
>
> On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 3:46 AM Ori Finkelman (IETF) <
> ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Fixed, submitted version 05.
>> Thanks,
>> Ori
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 10:04 PM Ori Finkelman (IETF) <
>> ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ok, will change accordingly and resubmit.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ori
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 9:55 PM Kevin J. Ma <kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Ori,
>>>>
>>>>   Understood.  I think for the purposes of this document .
>>>> ucdn.example.com and .dcdn.example.com should be ok and make things
>>>> simpler with not having to explain nits.
>>>>
>>>> thanx!
>>>>
>>>> --  Kevin J. Ma
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 8, 2019, at 1:54 PM, Ori Finkelman (IETF) <
>>>> ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Kevin,
>>>> I am aware of that, the thing is that for this example we need two
>>>> separate domains, one of the uCDN and the other of the dCDN, putting them
>>>> both under the same domain example.com defeats the purpose.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe we can put them as ucdn.example.com and dcdn.example.net ?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ori
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 4:06 AM Kevin Ma <kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Ori,
>>>>>
>>>>>   IDnits notes one issue: non-RFC2606-compliant FQDNs
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www6.ietf.org/tools/idnits?url=https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-04.txt
>>>>>
>>>>>   I'm guessing it's: service123.ucdn.example.dcdn.com, which doesn't
>>>>> end in .example.com ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you think we can fix that?
>>>>>
>>>>> thanx!
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Kevin J. Ma
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 5:26 AM Ori Finkelman (IETF) <
>>>>> ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Kevin.
>>>>>> I will wait for group comments and will publish an updated version
>>>>>> with the comments you have sent here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Ori
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 8:38 AM Kevin Ma <kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Sanjay,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   The updates look good.  Two final comments:
>>>>>>>   - section 2.1: "non empty" -> "non-empty"
>>>>>>>   - sections 6/7: if there are no acknowledgements or contributors,
>>>>>>> those two sections can just be removed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Those comments notwithstanding, I think we can start the WGLC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanx..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --  Kevin J. Ma
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 9:20 AM <sanjay.mishra=
>>>>>>> 40verizon.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since there is no CDNI meeting on the agenda, I wanted to ask if
>>>>>>>> chairs have any additional questions or questions in the mailing list
>>>>>>>> towards advancing draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-03.txt to WGLC?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sanjay
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks Kevin,<div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div>O=
ri</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmai=
l_attr">On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 9:42 PM Kevin Ma &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kevi=
n.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com">kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-le=
ft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Ori,<di=
v><br></div><div>=C2=A0 I completed the shepherd writeup and have submitted=
 the draft to the IESG.<div><br></div><div>thanx!</div><div><br></div><div>=
--=C2=A0 Kevin J. Ma</div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 3:46 AM Ori Finkelma=
n (IETF) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Fixed, submitted version =
05.<div>Thanks,</div><div>Ori</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 10:04 PM Ori Fink=
elman (IETF) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"=
_blank">ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid=
 rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>ok, will change a=
ccordingly and resubmit.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Ori</di=
v></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr=
">On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 9:55 PM Kevin J. Ma &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kevin.j.=
ma.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"a=
uto">Hi Ori,<div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 Understood.=C2=A0 I think for the pu=
rposes of this document .<a href=3D"http://ucdn.example.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">ucdn.example.com</a> and .<a href=3D"http://dcdn.example.com" target=3D=
"_blank">dcdn.example.com</a> should be ok and make things simpler with not=
 having to explain nits.</div><div><br></div><div>thanx!</div><div><br></di=
v><div>-- =C2=A0Kevin J. Ma<br><br><div id=3D"gmail-m_-2341836662299058621g=
mail-m_-3983046109049155534gmail-m_4253131965181776501gmail-m_6596874209981=
833523AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br>On Aug 8, 2019, at 1:54 PM, Ori Finkelman (IETF) &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">ori.finkelman.ietf@gma=
il.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Kevin,<div><div>I am aware of that, the thing is tha=
t for this example we need two separate domains, one of the uCDN and the ot=
her of the dCDN, putting them both under the same domain <a href=3D"http://=
example.com" target=3D"_blank">example.com</a> defeats the purpose.</div></=
div><div><br></div><div>Maybe we can put them as <a href=3D"http://ucdn.exa=
mple.com" target=3D"_blank">ucdn.example.com</a> and <a href=3D"http://dcdn=
.example.net" target=3D"_blank">dcdn.example.net</a> ?</div><div><br></div>=
<div>Thanks,</div><div>Ori</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 4:06 AM Kevin Ma &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">kevin.j.ma.=
ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padd=
ing-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Ori,<div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 IDnits not=
es one issue:=C2=A0<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">no=
n-RFC2606-compliant FQDNs</span></div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://w=
ww6.ietf.org/tools/idnits?url=3Dhttps://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-=
cdni-request-routing-extensions-04.txt" target=3D"_blank">https://www6.ietf=
.org/tools/idnits?url=3Dhttps://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-cdni-req=
uest-routing-extensions-04.txt</a></div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 I&#39;m =
guessing it&#39;s:=C2=A0<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wra=
p"><a href=3D"http://service123.ucdn.example.dcdn.com" target=3D"_blank">se=
rvice123.ucdn.example.dcdn.com</a>, which doesn&#39;t end in .<a href=3D"ht=
tp://example.com" target=3D"_blank">example.com</a> ?</span></div><div><spa=
n style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div><sp=
an style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">  Do you think we can fi=
x that?</span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wr=
ap"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-w=
rap">thanx!</span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pr=
e-wrap"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:p=
re-wrap">--  Kevin J. Ma</span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);w=
hite-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 5:26 AM Ori F=
inkelman (IETF) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px s=
olid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks Kevin.<div>=
I will wait for group comments and will publish an updated version with the=
 comments you have sent here.</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><=
div>Ori</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 8:38 AM Kevin Ma &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Sanjay,<div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 The upda=
tes look good.=C2=A0 Two final comments:</div><div>=C2=A0 - section 2.1: &q=
uot;non empty&quot; -&gt; &quot;non-empty&quot;</div><div>=C2=A0 - sections=
 6/7: if there are no acknowledgements or contributors, those two sections =
can just be removed.</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 Those comments notwith=
standing, I think we can start the WGLC.</div><div><br></div><div>thanx..</=
div><div><br></div><div>--=C2=A0 Kevin J. Ma</div></div><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 9=
:20 AM &lt;sanjay.mishra=3D<a href=3D"mailto:40verizon.com@dmarc.ietf.org" =
target=3D"_blank">40verizon.com@dmarc.ietf.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sanjay<u></u><u></u></p>
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Thanks Barry for the comments.
I will submit a fixed version as soon as possible.

Best regards,
Ori

On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 10:57 PM Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>
wrote:

> Thanks for the publication request for this document.  I have a few
> comments, none of which will block last call, so I'll request last
> call after I send this.  Please address these comments along with any
> last-call comments and those from the area review teams.
>
> 1. Please use the new BCP 14 boilerplate and references: see RFC 8174.
>
> 2. Abstract vs Introduction:  The sentence about the SVA seems out of
> place in the Abstract, and is oddly missing from the Introduction.  I
> would add the first two sentences of the Abstract to the Introduction.
> Then remove the first sentence from the Abstract and also remove =E2=80=
=9CIn
> that aspect,=E2=80=9D from the second sentence.
>
> 3. RFC 6707 defines necessary terminology, so it probably should be
> normative.  I will note a downref in the last-call notice in
> anticipation of that.
>
> Barry
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks Barry for the=C2=A0comments.<div>I will submit a fi=
xed version as=C2=A0soon as possible.</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards=
,</div><div>Ori</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 10:57 PM Barry Leiba &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:barryleiba@computer.org">barryleiba@computer.org</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.=
8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Thanks for the=
 publication request for this document.=C2=A0 I have a few<br>
comments, none of which will block last call, so I&#39;ll request last<br>
call after I send this.=C2=A0 Please address these comments along with any<=
br>
last-call comments and those from the area review teams.<br>
<br>
1. Please use the new BCP 14 boilerplate and references: see RFC 8174.<br>
<br>
2. Abstract vs Introduction:=C2=A0 The sentence about the SVA seems out of<=
br>
place in the Abstract, and is oddly missing from the Introduction.=C2=A0 I<=
br>
would add the first two sentences of the Abstract to the Introduction.<br>
Then remove the first sentence from the Abstract and also remove =E2=80=9CI=
n<br>
that aspect,=E2=80=9D from the second sentence.<br>
<br>
3. RFC 6707 defines necessary terminology, so it probably should be<br>
normative.=C2=A0 I will note a downref in the last-call notice in<br>
anticipation of that.<br>
<br>
Barry<br>
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> Thanks Barry for the comments.

You're welcome, and thanks very much for the work on the document.

> I will submit a fixed version as soon as possible.

You can wait until after last call ends before you submit.  You'll
expect reviews from GenART, SecDir, RtgDir, and OpsDir, and there
might be suggestions from those.  You should respond to them, thank
the reviewers, and address any comments they have, which might or
might not result in text changes.

You should see a reminder when last call ends (two weeks from now),
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Reviewer: Zitao Wang
Review result: Has Issues

I have reviewed this document as part of the Operational directorate’s ongoing
effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG.  These
comments were written with the intent of improving the operational aspects of
the IETF drafts. Comments that are not addressed in last call may be included
in AD reviews during the IESG review.  Document editors and WG chairs should
treat these comments just like any other last call comments.

Summary:
The Open Caching working group of the Streaming Video Alliance is focused on
the delegation of video delivery requests from commercial CDNs to a caching
layer at the ISP.  In that aspect, Open Caching is a specific use case of CDNI,
where the commercial CDN is the upstream CDN (uCDN) and the ISP caching layer
is the downstream CDN (dCDN). The extensions specified in this document to the
CDNI Metadata and FCI interfaces are derived from requirements raised by Open
Caching but are applicable to CDNI use cases in general.

The document is well written, easy to read, and technically I have no issues.
However, as shown below, I do have some questions for clarifications.

Major issues: None

Minor issues:
#1: There are a lot of abbreviations that are not provided with explanations or
citations, such as uCDN, dCDN, CFI, etc.

#2: The example of of a Redirect Target capability object serialization, is it
encoded as json? Please present its encoding format.

#3: In section 2.1, the "Mandatory-to-Specify" attributes of dns-target and
http-target, it describes that "No, but at least one of dns-target or
http-target MUST be present and non-empty." I wonder whether there should be a
detection mechanism. For example, if the requirements are not met, an error
message will be returned. And if there are existing mechanisms, please briefly
introduce them.

Best Regards!
-Michael


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Document: draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-05
Reviewer: Dan Romascanu
Review Date: 2019-08-20
IETF LC End Date: 2019-08-28
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Summary:
This document is ready from a Gen-ART perspective, with a couple of nits which
could be fixed in the RFC Editor processing after approval Major issues: None
Minor issues: None Nits/editorial comments:

1. Several non-obvious acronyms are not expanded: FCI, FQDN
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>
> Thank you Dan for your time and comments.
> I'll fix them for the next revision.
>
> Best regards,
> Ori
>
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2019, 12:09 Dan Romascanu via Datatracker <
> noreply@ietf.org> wrote:
>
>> Reviewer: Dan Romascanu
>> Review result: Ready with Nits
>>
>> I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area
>> Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed
>> by the IESG for the IETF Chair.  Please treat these comments just
>> like any other last call comments.
>>
>> For more information, please see the FAQ at
>>
>> <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/gen/wiki/GenArtfaq>.
>>
>> Document: draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-05
>> Reviewer: Dan Romascanu
>> Review Date: 2019-08-20
>> IETF LC End Date: 2019-08-28
>> IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat
>>
>> Summary:
>> This document is ready from a Gen-ART perspective, with a couple of nits
>> which
>> could be fixed in the RFC Editor processing after approval Major issues:
>> None
>> Minor issues: None Nits/editorial comments:
>>
>> 1. Several non-obvious acronyms are not expanded: FCI, FQDN
>> 2. Section 3 - typo in the first paragraph '...the uCDN MUST be differnet
>> ...'
>>
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<br>
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<br>
Document: draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-05<br>
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Summary:<br>
This document is ready from a Gen-ART perspective, with a couple of nits wh=
ich<br>
could be fixed in the RFC Editor processing after approval Major issues: No=
ne<br>
Minor issues: None Nits/editorial comments:<br>
<br>
1. Several non-obvious acronyms are not expanded: FCI, FQDN<br>
2. Section 3 - typo in the first paragraph &#39;...the uCDN MUST be differn=
et ...&#39;<br>
<br>
<br>
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Thank you Dan for your time and comments.
I'll fix them for the next revision.

Best regards,
Ori

On Tue, Aug 20, 2019, 12:09 Dan Romascanu via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org>
wrote:

> Reviewer: Dan Romascanu
> Review result: Ready with Nits
>
> I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area
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> Document: draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-05
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> Summary:
> This document is ready from a Gen-ART perspective, with a couple of nits
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> could be fixed in the RFC Editor processing after approval Major issues:
> None
> Minor issues: None Nits/editorial comments:
>
> 1. Several non-obvious acronyms are not expanded: FCI, FQDN
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#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Reviewer: Dan Romascanu<br>
Review result: Ready with Nits<br>
<br>
I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area<br>
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rtfaq</a>&gt;.<br>
<br>
Document: draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-05<br>
Reviewer: Dan Romascanu<br>
Review Date: 2019-08-20<br>
IETF LC End Date: 2019-08-28<br>
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<br>
Summary:<br>
This document is ready from a Gen-ART perspective, with a couple of nits wh=
ich<br>
could be fixed in the RFC Editor processing after approval Major issues: No=
ne<br>
Minor issues: None Nits/editorial comments:<br>
<br>
1. Several non-obvious acronyms are not expanded: FCI, FQDN<br>
2. Section 3 - typo in the first paragraph &#39;...the uCDN MUST be differn=
et ...&#39;<br>
<br>
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Hi,
Thanks a lot for your time and for the comments.
I will fix them for the next revision.

Best regards,
Ori

On Tue, Aug 20, 2019, 10:02 Zitao Wang via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org>
wrote:

> Reviewer: Zitao Wang
> Review result: Has Issues
>
> I have reviewed this document as part of the Operational directorate=E2=
=80=99s
> ongoing
> effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG.  These
> comments were written with the intent of improving the operational aspect=
s
> of
> the IETF drafts. Comments that are not addressed in last call may be
> included
> in AD reviews during the IESG review.  Document editors and WG chairs
> should
> treat these comments just like any other last call comments.
>
> Summary:
> The Open Caching working group of the Streaming Video Alliance is focused
> on
> the delegation of video delivery requests from commercial CDNs to a cachi=
ng
> layer at the ISP.  In that aspect, Open Caching is a specific use case of
> CDNI,
> where the commercial CDN is the upstream CDN (uCDN) and the ISP caching
> layer
> is the downstream CDN (dCDN). The extensions specified in this document t=
o
> the
> CDNI Metadata and FCI interfaces are derived from requirements raised by
> Open
> Caching but are applicable to CDNI use cases in general.
>
> The document is well written, easy to read, and technically I have no
> issues.
> However, as shown below, I do have some questions for clarifications.
>
> Major issues: None
>
> Minor issues:
> #1: There are a lot of abbreviations that are not provided with
> explanations or
> citations, such as uCDN, dCDN, CFI, etc.
>
> #2: The example of of a Redirect Target capability object serialization,
> is it
> encoded as json? Please present its encoding format.
>
> #3: In section 2.1, the "Mandatory-to-Specify" attributes of dns-target a=
nd
> http-target, it describes that "No, but at least one of dns-target or
> http-target MUST be present and non-empty." I wonder whether there should
> be a
> detection mechanism. For example, if the requirements are not met, an err=
or
> message will be returned. And if there are existing mechanisms, please
> briefly
> introduce them.
>
> Best Regards!
> -Michael
>
>

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>Hi,</div><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks a lot for your tim=
e and for the comments.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">I will fix them for th=
e next revision.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">B=
est regards,</div><div dir=3D"auto">Ori<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote" d=
ir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 20, 2019, 10:=
02 Zitao Wang via Datatracker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:noreply@ietf.org">norep=
ly@ietf.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Reviewer=
: Zitao Wang<br>
Review result: Has Issues<br>
<br>
I have reviewed this document as part of the Operational directorate=E2=80=
=99s ongoing<br>
effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG.=C2=A0 Thes=
e<br>
comments were written with the intent of improving the operational aspects =
of<br>
the IETF drafts. Comments that are not addressed in last call may be includ=
ed<br>
in AD reviews during the IESG review.=C2=A0 Document editors and WG chairs =
should<br>
treat these comments just like any other last call comments.<br>
<br>
Summary:<br>
The Open Caching working group of the Streaming Video Alliance is focused o=
n<br>
the delegation of video delivery requests from commercial CDNs to a caching=
<br>
layer at the ISP.=C2=A0 In that aspect, Open Caching is a specific use case=
 of CDNI,<br>
where the commercial CDN is the upstream CDN (uCDN) and the ISP caching lay=
er<br>
is the downstream CDN (dCDN). The extensions specified in this document to =
the<br>
CDNI Metadata and FCI interfaces are derived from requirements raised by Op=
en<br>
Caching but are applicable to CDNI use cases in general.<br>
<br>
The document is well written, easy to read, and technically I have no issue=
s.<br>
However, as shown below, I do have some questions for clarifications.<br>
<br>
Major issues: None<br>
<br>
Minor issues:<br>
#1: There are a lot of abbreviations that are not provided with explanation=
s or<br>
citations, such as uCDN, dCDN, CFI, etc.<br>
<br>
#2: The example of of a Redirect Target capability object serialization, is=
 it<br>
encoded as json? Please present its encoding format.<br>
<br>
#3: In section 2.1, the &quot;Mandatory-to-Specify&quot; attributes of dns-=
target and<br>
http-target, it describes that &quot;No, but at least one of dns-target or<=
br>
http-target MUST be present and non-empty.&quot; I wonder whether there sho=
uld be a<br>
detection mechanism. For example, if the requirements are not met, an error=
<br>
message will be returned. And if there are existing mechanisms, please brie=
fly<br>
introduce them.<br>
<br>
Best Regards!<br>
-Michael<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div></div></div>

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Reviewer: Linda Dunbar
Review result: Has Nits

I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's ongoing
effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG.  These
comments were written primarily for the benefit of the security area directors.
 Document editors and WG chairs should treat these comments just like any other
last call comments.

The terminology RR (Request Router) and CP (Content Provider) specified by the
Terminology are not used for the entire document. I assume that RR would be the
one request content, isn't? is RR same as Client?  Is RR part of Downstream CDN
Provider? is the CP same as Downstream CDN provider or Upstream CDN Provider?

who issued the Redirect Target?

It would be good for the document to clearly specify the relationship of all
the entities, such as who makes request and who respond, and who use the
Redirect Target capability, etc.

Thank you very much.
Linda Dunbar



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Hi Linda,
Thank you for your time and comments.
I will address them in the next revision.

Best regards,
Ori

On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 8:16 PM Linda Dunbar via Datatracker <
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> Reviewer: Linda Dunbar
> Review result: Has Nits
>
> I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's ongoing
> effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG.  These
> comments were written primarily for the benefit of the security area
> directors.
>  Document editors and WG chairs should treat these comments just like any
> other
> last call comments.
>
> The terminology RR (Request Router) and CP (Content Provider) specified by
> the
> Terminology are not used for the entire document. I assume that RR would
> be the
> one request content, isn't? is RR same as Client?  Is RR part of
> Downstream CDN
> Provider? is the CP same as Downstream CDN provider or Upstream CDN
> Provider?
>
> who issued the Redirect Target?
>
> It would be good for the document to clearly specify the relationship of
> all
> the entities, such as who makes request and who respond, and who use the
> Redirect Target capability, etc.
>
> Thank you very much.
> Linda Dunbar
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Linda,<div>Thank you for your time and comments.</div><=
div>I will address them in the next revision.</div><div><br></div><div>Best=
 regards,</div><div>Ori</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 8:16 PM Linda Dunbar =
via Datatracker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:noreply@ietf.org">noreply@ietf.org</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px=
 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Rev=
iewer: Linda Dunbar<br>
Review result: Has Nits<br>
<br>
I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate&#39;s ong=
oing<br>
effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG.=C2=A0 Thes=
e<br>
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ors.<br>
=C2=A0Document editors and WG chairs should treat these comments just like =
any other<br>
last call comments.<br>
<br>
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the<br>
Terminology are not used for the entire document. I assume that RR would be=
 the<br>
one request content, isn&#39;t? is RR same as Client?=C2=A0 Is RR part of D=
ownstream CDN<br>
Provider? is the CP same as Downstream CDN provider or Upstream CDN Provide=
r?<br>
<br>
who issued the Redirect Target?<br>
<br>
It would be good for the document to clearly specify the relationship of al=
l<br>
the entities, such as who makes request and who respond, and who use the<br=
>
Redirect Target capability, etc.<br>
<br>
Thank you very much.<br>
Linda Dunbar<br>
<br>
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OK... last call ended, so please submit any changes you have coming
from my comments and the directorate reviews, and I'll schedule the
document for IESG Evaluation.

Thanks,
Barry

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> > Thanks Barry for the comments.
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> You're welcome, and thanks very much for the work on the document.
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> > I will submit a fixed version as soon as possible.
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Phil, my mail to you through the cdni-chairs@ietf.org alias is
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Thank you Barry.
I will update once a new revision is submitted.

Best regards,
Ori

On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 4:38 PM Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> wrote:

> OK... last call ended, so please submit any changes you have coming
> from my comments and the directorate reviews, and I'll schedule the
> document for IESG Evaluation.
>
> Thanks,
> Barry
>
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 5:58 PM Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Barry for the comments.
> >
> > You're welcome, and thanks very much for the work on the document.
> >
> > > I will submit a fixed version as soon as possible.
> >
> > You can wait until after last call ends before you submit.  You'll
> > expect reviews from GenART, SecDir, RtgDir, and OpsDir, and there
> > might be suggestions from those.  You should respond to them, thank
> > the reviewers, and address any comments they have, which might or
> > might not result in text changes.
> >
> > You should see a reminder when last call ends (two weeks from now),
> > and you can submit a new version then, at which point I'll send it to
> > IESG Evaluation.
> >
> > Barry
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thank you Barry.<div>I will update once a new revision is =
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from my comments and the directorate reviews, and I&#39;ll schedule the<br>
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<br>
Thanks,<br>
Barry<br>
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On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 5:58 PM Barry Leiba &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:barryleib=
a@computer.org" target=3D"_blank">barryleiba@computer.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Thanks Barry for the comments.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; You&#39;re welcome, and thanks very much for the work on the document.=
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&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; I will submit a fixed version as soon as possible.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; You can wait until after last call ends before you submit.=C2=A0 You&#=
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&gt; expect reviews from GenART, SecDir, RtgDir, and OpsDir, and there<br>
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&gt; might not result in text changes.<br>
&gt;<br>
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>
&gt; and you can submit a new version then, at which point I&#39;ll send it=
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&gt; Barry<br>
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