From nobody Tue Oct 8 07:57:37 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietf.org Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD961120026; Tue, 8 Oct 2019 07:57:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: cdni@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.104.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: cdni@ietf.org Message-ID: <157054664969.17105.18074989335072846496@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2019 07:57:29 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [CDNi] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cdni-uri-signing-19.txt X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2019 14:57:30 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Content Delivery Networks Interconnection WG of the IETF. Title : URI Signing for CDN Interconnection (CDNI) Authors : Ray van Brandenburg Kent Leung Phil Sorber Filename : draft-ietf-cdni-uri-signing-19.txt Pages : 42 Date : 2019-10-08 Abstract: This document describes how the concept of URI signing supports the content access control requirements of CDNI and proposes a URI signing method as a JSON Web Token (JWT) profile. The proposed URI signing method specifies the information needed to be included in the URI to transmit the signed JWT, as well as the claims needed by the signed JWT to authorize a UA. The mechanism described can be used both in CDNI and single CDN scenarios. 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Ma On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 10:00 AM Ori Finkelman (IETF) < ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi All, > This submission fixes the comments from all reviewers, I would like to > thank all reviewers for taking the time and sharing their comments. > Please note the diff should be against revision 05 rather than 06 as most > of the changes were submitted in 06. > > > Here is the full list of comments that were fixed in this version: > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > **************************************************************** > Reviewer: Barry Leiba (AD) > > 1. Please use the new BCP 14 boilerplate and references: see RFC 8174. > >> fixed > > 2. Abstract vs Introduction: The sentence about the SVA seems out of > place in the Abstract, and is oddly missing from the Introduction. I > would add the first two sentences of the Abstract to the Introduction. > Then remove the first sentence from the Abstract and also remove =E2=80= =9CIn > that aspect,=E2=80=9D from the second sentence. > > >> fixed > > 3. RFC 6707 defines necessary terminology, so it probably should be > normative. I will note a downref in the last-call notice in > anticipation of that. > >> fixed > > > *************************************************** > Reviewer: Dan Romascanu (Genart) > > 1. Several non-obvious acronyms are not expanded: FCI, FQDN > >> fixed and removed the ones not used > 2. Section 3 - typo in the first paragraph '...the uCDN MUST be differnet > ...' > >> fixed > > ************************************************* > Reviewer: Zitao Wang (Opsdir) > > #1: There are a lot of abbreviations that are not provided with > explanations or > citations, such as uCDN, dCDN, CFI, etc. > >> fixed and remove the ones not necessary > > #2: The example of of a Redirect Target capability object serialization, > is it > encoded as json? Please present its encoding format. > >> fixed > > #3: In section 2.1, the "Mandatory-to-Specify" attributes of dns-target a= nd > http-target, it describes that "No, but at least one of dns-target or > http-target MUST be present and non-empty." I wonder whether there should > be a > detection mechanism. For example, if the requirements are not met, an err= or > message will be returned. And if there are existing mechanisms, please > briefly > introduce them. > > >> That one is a great catch, thanks. I have changed it so it is not an > error anymore. Instead we have defined a default behavior for the case > it is not present or empty, see the fixed draft. > > ****************************************************************** > Reviewer: Linda Dunbar (Secdir) > > The terminology RR (Request Router) and CP (Content Provider) specified > by the > Terminology are not used for the entire document. I assume that RR would > be the > one request content, isn't? is RR same as Client? Is RR part of > Downstream CDN > Provider? is the CP same as Downstream CDN provider or Upstream CDN > Provider? > > >> In the new version RR appears in a few locations. I have added more > explanations and references to the relevant CDNI docs where it was define= d. > > who issued the Redirect Target? > > It would be good for the document to clearly specify the relationship of > all > the entities, such as who makes request and who respond, and who use the > Redirect Target capability, etc. > > >> we have added drawings of sequences that explain it all, I hope it wil= l > be clearer now. > > ******************************************************************* > Reviewer: Michael T=C3=BCxen (Tsvart) > > To improve readability, you might want to > * resolve acronyms on first occurence like CDN, CDNI,... > >> fixed > * Remove section 1.1, since the introduced abbreviations are not used in > the text. > >> fixed > * add a graphical representation of the involved nodes and the messages > being exchanged between them > >> Added sequence diagrams sections for both extensions. > > Typos: > * Section 3: the uCDN provide a fallback -> the uCDN provides a fallback > * Section 6: Nir B. Sopher -> Nir B. Sopher (no double space after perio= d) > * Section 6: Kevin J. Ma -> Kevin J. Ma (no double space after period) > >> fixed > > ******************************************************************* > Reviewer: Ben Niven-Jenkins (CDNI) > > Is there a reason that IPv6 addresses (AAAA records) are excluded from > being allowed as DnsTargets, or is this an oversight? > > >> fixed. references to ipv6 and AAAA record were added in the relevant > places. > > ******************************************************************* > > Thanks, > Ori > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: > Date: Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 4:49 PM > Subject: [CDNi] I-D Action: > draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-07.txt > To: > Cc: > > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Content Delivery Networks Interconnectio= n > WG of the IETF. > > Title : CDNI Request Routing Extensions > Authors : Ori Finkelman > Sanjay Mishra > Filename : draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-07.t= xt > Pages : 17 > Date : 2019-09-24 > > Abstract: > Open Caching is a use case of Content Delivery Networks > Interconnetion (CDNI) in which the commercial Content Delivery > Network (CDN) is the upstream CDN (uCDN) and the ISP caching layer > serves as the downstream CDN (dCDN). The extensions specified in > this document to the CDNI Metadata and FCI interfaces are derived > from requirements raised by Open Caching but are also applicable to > CDNI use cases in general. > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensio= ns/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-07 > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-ext= ensions-07 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-exten= sions-07 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > CDNi mailing list > CDNi@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cdni > --0000000000001e0ee30594a2f96e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi=C2=A0Ori,

=C2=A0 A couple of nits th= at you may want to cleanup in AUTH48 (final author review):
=C2= =A0 - in all places where AAAA was added, add the Oxford comma:=C2=A0"= a DNS A record, AAAA record, or CNAME record"
=C2=A0 - secti= on 3.4: missing comma "Using the MI" -> "Using the MI,&qu= ot;

thanx!

--=C2=A0 Kevin= J. Ma

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 10:00 AM Ori Finkelman (IETF) <ori.finkelman.ietf@gmail.com= > wrote:
Hi All,
This submission fixes the co= mments from all reviewers, I would like to thank all reviewers for taking t= he time and sharing their comments.
Please note the diff should b= e against revision 05 rather than 06 as most of the changes were submitted = in 06.=C2=A0


Here is the full list = of comments that were fixed in this version:
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

*****= ***********************************************************
Revie= wer: Barry Leiba (AD)


1. Please use the= new BCP 14 boilerplate and references: see RFC 8174.
>> fixed

2. Abstract vs Introduction:=C2= =A0 The sentence about the SVA seems out of
place in the Abstract, and i= s oddly missing from the Introduction.=C2=A0 I
would add the first two s= entences of the Abstract to the Introduction.
Then remove the first sent= ence from the Abstract and also remove =E2=80=9CIn
that aspect,=E2=80=9D= from the second sentence.

>> fixed

3. RFC 6707 defines necessary terminology, so= it probably should be
normative.=C2=A0 I will note a downref in the las= t-call notice in
anticipation of that.
>> fixed


***************************************************<= /div>
Review= er: Dan Romascanu (Genart)

1. Several non-ob= vious acronyms are not expanded: FCI, FQDN
>= > fixed and removed the ones not used
2. Section 3 - typo in t= he first paragraph '...the uCDN MUST be differnet ...'
>> fixed

******= *******************************************
Reviewer: Zitao Wang = (Opsdir)

#1: There are a lot of abbreviations = that are not provided with explanations or
citations, such as uCDN, dCDN= , CFI, etc.
>> fixed and remove the= ones not necessary

#2: The example of of a Redirect Target c= apability object serialization, is it
encoded as json? Please present it= s encoding format.
>> fixed<= br>
#3: In section 2.1, the "Mandatory-to-Specify" attributes = of dns-target and
http-target, it describes that "No, but at least = one of dns-target or
http-target MUST be present and non-empty." I = wonder whether there should be a
detection mechanism. For example, if th= e requirements are not met, an error
message will be returned. And if th= ere are existing mechanisms, please briefly
introduce them.
>> That one is a great catch, th= anks. I have changed it so it is not an error anymore. Instead we have defi= ned a default behavior=C2=A0for the case=C2=A0
it is not present or empty, see the fixed draft.
<= div>
*************************= *****************************************
Reviewer: Linda Dunbar = (Secdir)

The terminology RR (Request= =C2=A0Router) and CP (Content Provider) specified by the
Terminology are= not used for the entire document. I assume that RR would be the
one=C2= =A0request=C2=A0content, isn't? is RR same as Client?=C2= =A0 Is RR part of Downstream CDN
Provider? is the CP same as Downstream = CDN provider or Upstream CDN Provider?

>> In the new version RR appears in a few locations. I have add= ed more explanations and references to the relevant CDNI docs where it was = defined.=C2=A0

who issued the Redirect Target?

It woul= d be good for the document to clearly specify the relationship of all
th= e entities, such as who makes=C2=A0request=C2=A0and who respon= d, and who use the
Redirect Target capability, etc.

>>=C2=A0we=C2=A0have added drawings = of sequences that explain it all, I hope it will be clearer now.

*****************************************= **************************
Reviewer: Michael T=C3=BCxen (Tsvart)<= /div>

To improve readability, you might want to
* res= olve acronyms on first occurence like CDN,=C2=A0CDNI,...
=
>> fixed
* Remove section 1.1,= since the introduced abbreviations are not used in the text.
>> fixed
* add a graphical representat= ion of the involved nodes and the messages being exchanged between them
>> Added sequence diagrams sections fo= r both extensions.=C2=A0

Typos:
* Section 3: the uCDN prov= ide a fallback -> the uCDN provides a fallback
* Section 6: Nir B.=C2= =A0 Sopher -> Nir B. Sopher (no double space after period)
* Section = 6: Kevin J.=C2=A0 Ma -> Kevin J. Ma (no double space after period)
>> fixed

=
*******************************************************************
Reviewer: Ben Niven-Jenkins (CDNI)

Is ther= e a reason that IPv6 addresses (AAAA records) are excluded from being allow= ed as DnsTargets, or is this an oversight?

>> fixed. references to ipv6 and AAAA record wer= e added in the relevant places.

********************= ***********************************************

Thanks,
Ori<= /div>


---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
Date: Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 4:49= PM
Subject: [CDNi] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensio= ns-07.txt
To: <i-d-announce@ietf.org>
Cc: <cdni@ietf.org>



A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies.
This draft is a work item of the Content Delivery Networks Interconnection = WG of the IETF.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:= CDNI Request Routing Extensions
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: Ori = Finkelman
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Sanjay Mishra
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-iet= f-cdni-request-routing-extensions-07.txt
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:= 17
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 := 2019-09-24

Abstract:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Open Caching is a use case of Content Delivery Networks
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Interconnetion (CDNI) in which the commercial Content Delivery=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Network (CDN) is the upstream CDN (uCDN) and the ISP caching l= ayer
=C2=A0 =C2=A0serves as the downstream CDN (dCDN).=C2=A0 The extensions spec= ified in
=C2=A0 =C2=A0this document to the CDNI Metadata and FCI interfaces are deri= ved
=C2=A0 =C2=A0from requirements raised by Open Caching but are also applicab= le to
=C2=A0 =C2=A0CDNI use cases in general.



The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf= .org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions/

There are also htmlized versions available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html= /draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-07
https://datatrack= er.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-07

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.or= g/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-07


Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n
until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/

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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 07:47:14 -0000 Éric Vyncke has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-07: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you for the work put into this document. I have a couple of comments and nits. Regards, -éric == COMMENTS == One generic suggestion (no need to act on a COMMENT): add the definition of "router" in this document as it is not the typical IP-layer router as in most IETF documents. -- Section 2.3 -- It is unclear to me whether the 3xx redirection (cfr last example) can switch from HTTP to HTTPS or vice-versa? Should the 'httptarget' include the scheme/protocol to be used ? In any case, the text should be clear whether the scheme is kept between original request and the scheme in the redirected location. Or is it specify in the OpenCache spec ? == NITS == -- Abstract -- Please expand FCI at first use. -- Requirements language -- Unusual place in the document. It will be fixed by the RFC Editor probably later in the process. -- Section 2 -- s/defintion/definition/, I will stop looking for typos, easier to use a spell checker ;) From nobody Mon Oct 14 09:21:05 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04DBC1200CC; Mon, 14 Oct 2019 09:20:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=verizon.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Lytzf8V2ZRKG; 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Mon, 14 Oct 2019 09:27:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Alissa Cooper via Datatracker To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions@ietf.org, Kevin Ma , cdni-chairs@ietf.org, kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com, cdni@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.105.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Alissa Cooper Message-ID: <157107047880.24724.13389479929109710092.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 09:27:58 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [CDNi] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-07: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 16:27:59 -0000 Alissa Cooper has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-07: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I think it would be good to note in Section 5.1 that the way the redirect target capability is specified here potentially encourages further use of the EDNS client subnet option to identify the geographic area of a client, which has a number of known privacy drawbacks per RFC 7871 Section 2 and Section 11.1. 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Ori, thanks for making the updates. I = entered a No Objection ballot. Alissa > On Aug 21, 2019, at 5:05 PM, Ori Finkelman = wrote: >=20 > Thank you Dan for your time and comments.=20 > I'll fix them for the next revision.=20 >=20 > Best regards, > Ori >=20 > On Tue, Aug 20, 2019, 12:09 Dan Romascanu via Datatracker = > wrote: > Reviewer: Dan Romascanu > Review result: Ready with Nits >=20 > I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area > Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed > by the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments just > like any other last call comments. >=20 > For more information, please see the FAQ at >=20 > >. >=20 > Document: draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-05 > Reviewer: Dan Romascanu > Review Date: 2019-08-20 > IETF LC End Date: 2019-08-28 > IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat >=20 > Summary: > This document is ready from a Gen-ART perspective, with a couple of = nits which > could be fixed in the RFC Editor processing after approval Major = issues: None > Minor issues: None Nits/editorial comments: >=20 > 1. Several non-obvious acronyms are not expanded: FCI, FQDN > 2. Section 3 - typo in the first paragraph '...the uCDN MUST be = differnet ...' >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Gen-art mailing list > Gen-art@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/gen-art --Apple-Mail=_958360E8-9F63-4A19-8BD2-0D781DD29465 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Dan, = thanks for your review. Ori, thanks for making the updates. I entered a = No Objection ballot.

Alissa


On Aug = 21, 2019, at 5:05 PM, Ori Finkelman <orifinkelman@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you Dan for your time and comments. 
I'll fix them for the next = revision. 

Best regards,
Ori

On Tue, Aug = 20, 2019, 12:09 Dan Romascanu via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> = wrote:
Reviewer: Dan Romascanu
Review result: Ready with Nits

I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area
Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed
by the IESG for the IETF Chair.  Please treat these comments = just
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Document: draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-05
Reviewer: Dan Romascanu
Review Date: 2019-08-20
IETF LC End Date: 2019-08-28
IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat

Summary:
This document is ready from a Gen-ART perspective, with a couple of nits = which
could be fixed in the RFC Editor processing after approval Major issues: = None
Minor issues: None Nits/editorial comments:

1. Several non-obvious acronyms are not expanded: FCI, FQDN
= 2. Section 3 - typo in the first paragraph '...the uCDN MUST be = differnet ...'


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Mon, 14 Oct 2019 12:35:03 -0400 To: Alissa Cooper , The IESG CC: "draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions@ietf.org" , Kevin Ma , "cdni-chairs@ietf.org" , "cdni@ietf.org" , "Ori Finkelman (IETF)" Thread-Topic: [E] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-07: (with COMMENT) Thread-Index: AQHVgqxZbe3EZLNbzU2p3Vt6rOavFqdaVL9g Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 16:35:03 +0000 Message-ID: References: <157107047880.24724.13389479929109710092.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <157107047880.24724.13389479929109710092.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.144.60.250] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CDNi] [E] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-07: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 16:35:08 -0000 SGkgQWxpc3NhIC0gVGhhbmsgeW91IGZvciB5b3VyIHJldmlldyBhbmQgY29tbWVudCBhYm91dCBF Q1MgaXMgbm90ZWQgYW5kIHdpbGwgdXBkYXRlIHNlYyA1LjEuDQoNClRoYW5rIHlvdQ0KU2FuamF5 IA0KDQotLS0tLU9yaWdpbmFsIE1lc3NhZ2UtLS0tLQ0KRnJvbTogQWxpc3NhIENvb3BlciB2aWEg RGF0YXRyYWNrZXIgW21haWx0bzpub3JlcGx5QGlldGYub3JnXSANClNlbnQ6IE1vbmRheSwgT2N0 b2JlciAxNCwgMjAxOSAxMjoyOCBQTQ0KVG86IFRoZSBJRVNHIDxpZXNnQGlldGYub3JnPg0KQ2M6 IGRyYWZ0LWlldGYtY2RuaS1yZXF1ZXN0LXJvdXRpbmctZXh0ZW5zaW9uc0BpZXRmLm9yZzsgS2V2 aW4gTWEgPGtldmluLmoubWEuaWV0ZkBnbWFpbC5jb20+OyBjZG5pLWNoYWlyc0BpZXRmLm9yZzsg a2V2aW4uai5tYS5pZXRmQGdtYWlsLmNvbTsgY2RuaUBpZXRmLm9yZw0KU3ViamVjdDogW0VdIEFs aXNzYSBDb29wZXIncyBObyBPYmplY3Rpb24gb24gZHJhZnQtaWV0Zi1jZG5pLXJlcXVlc3Qtcm91 dGluZy1leHRlbnNpb25zLTA3OiAod2l0aCBDT01NRU5UKQ0KDQpBbGlzc2EgQ29vcGVyIGhhcyBl bnRlcmVkIHRoZSBmb2xsb3dpbmcgYmFsbG90IHBvc2l0aW9uIGZvcg0KZHJhZnQtaWV0Zi1jZG5p LXJlcXVlc3Qtcm91dGluZy1leHRlbnNpb25zLTA3OiBObyBPYmplY3Rpb24NCg0KV2hlbiByZXNw b25kaW5nLCBwbGVhc2Uga2VlcCB0aGUgc3ViamVjdCBsaW5lIGludGFjdCBhbmQgcmVwbHkgdG8g YWxsIGVtYWlsIGFkZHJlc3NlcyBpbmNsdWRlZCBpbiB0aGUgVG8gYW5kIENDIGxpbmVzLiAoRmVl bCBmcmVlIHRvIGN1dCB0aGlzIGludHJvZHVjdG9yeSBwYXJhZ3JhcGgsIGhvd2V2ZXIuKQ0KDQoN ClBsZWFzZSByZWZlciB0byBodHRwczovL3VybGRlZmVuc2UucHJvb2Zwb2ludC5jb20vdjIvdXJs P3U9aHR0cHMtM0FfX3d3dy5pZXRmLm9yZ19pZXNnX3N0YXRlbWVudF9kaXNjdXNzLTJEY3JpdGVy aWEuaHRtbCZkPUR3SUNhUSZjPXVkQlRSdkZ2WEM1RGhxZzdVSHBKbFBwczNtWjNMUnhwYjZfXzBQ b21CVFEmcj1YbmlWYmlzaEdpTzJBbzloS3FTYy1oVFZJV0NpM1QteDZHZEhSNFpUZ29NJm09ZDZo bWR3SU4xM3J5aVZ1NkRUYWpISktvczN4UDlJMlpraUJLTGdIVUg1byZzPVh4bzVialoweGxRX0lf dmVqaWlHcVRfU3FobmVMOEpaLUdyMzZpblJWbDQmZT0NCmZvciBtb3JlIGluZm9ybWF0aW9uIGFi b3V0IElFU0cgRElTQ1VTUyBhbmQgQ09NTUVOVCBwb3NpdGlvbnMuDQoNCg0KVGhlIGRvY3VtZW50 LCBhbG9uZyB3aXRoIG90aGVyIGJhbGxvdCBwb3NpdGlvbnMsIGNhbiBiZSBmb3VuZCBoZXJlOg0K aHR0cHM6Ly91cmxkZWZlbnNlLnByb29mcG9pbnQuY29tL3YyL3VybD91PWh0dHBzLTNBX19kYXRh dHJhY2tlci5pZXRmLm9yZ19kb2NfZHJhZnQtMkRpZXRmLTJEY2RuaS0yRHJlcXVlc3QtMkRyb3V0 aW5nLTJEZXh0ZW5zaW9uc18mZD1Ed0lDYVEmYz11ZEJUUnZGdlhDNURocWc3VUhwSmxQcHMzbVoz TFJ4cGI2X18wUG9tQlRRJnI9WG5pVmJpc2hHaU8yQW85aEtxU2MtaFRWSVdDaTNULXg2R2RIUjRa VGdvTSZtPWQ2aG1kd0lOMTNyeWlWdTZEVGFqSEpLb3MzeFA5STJaa2lCS0xnSFVINW8mcz1fTnJn M1NOV29VT3lXZWZzMTltX3hSVW9vRGhlRW9UbzhCSWlMQVB1WFdrJmU9IA0KDQoNCg0KLS0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLQ0KQ09NTUVOVDoNCi0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0NCg0KSSB0aGluayBpdCB3b3VsZCBiZSBn b29kIHRvIG5vdGUgaW4gU2VjdGlvbiA1LjEgdGhhdCB0aGUgd2F5IHRoZSByZWRpcmVjdA0KdGFy Z2V0IGNhcGFiaWxpdHkgaXMgc3BlY2lmaWVkIGhlcmUgcG90ZW50aWFsbHkgZW5jb3VyYWdlcyBm dXJ0aGVyIHVzZSBvZiB0aGUNCkVETlMgY2xpZW50IHN1Ym5ldCBvcHRpb24gdG8gaWRlbnRpZnkg dGhlIGdlb2dyYXBoaWMgYXJlYSBvZiBhIGNsaWVudCwgd2hpY2gNCmhhcyBhIG51bWJlciBvZiBr bm93biBwcml2YWN5IGRyYXdiYWNrcyBwZXIgUkZDIDc4NzEgU2VjdGlvbiAyIGFuZCBTZWN0aW9u IDExLjEuDQoNCg0K From nobody Tue Oct 15 05:16:26 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietf.org Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0151612000F; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 05:16:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Roman Danyliw via Datatracker To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions@ietf.org, Kevin Ma , cdni-chairs@ietf.org, kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com, cdni@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.105.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Roman Danyliw Message-ID: <157114177699.18154.1895844525597583275.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 05:16:16 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [CDNi] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-07: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 12:16:18 -0000 Roman Danyliw has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-07: Discuss When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCUSS: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Section 2 notes the use of EDNS0. Please provide guidance in Section 5.1 (Privacy Considerations) given the caution described in Sections 2 and 11.1 of RFC7871. This is likely the same feedback provided by Alissa Cooper in her ballot. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ** Section 1. Add an informative reference to the Open Caching WG of SVA ** Editorial Nits Abstract. Typo. s/Interconnetion/Interconnection/ Section 1. Typo. s/commerical/commercial/ Section 1.1. Typo. s/Additionaly/Additionally/ Section 2. Typo. s/defintion/definition/ Section 2. Typo. s/implemenation/implementation/ Section 2. Typo. s/interperet/interpret/ Section 4. Typo. s/adveritses/advertises/ Section 5.1. Typo. s/strcture/structure/ Section 5.1. Typo. s/implemenation/implementation/ From nobody Tue Oct 15 05:42:21 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietf.org Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C15120091; Tue, 15 Oct 2019 05:42:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Warren Kumari via Datatracker To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions@ietf.org, Kevin Ma , cdni-chairs@ietf.org, kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com, cdni@ietf.org, wangzitao@huawei.com X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.105.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Warren Kumari Message-ID: <157114334000.18112.15250953814517427319.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 05:42:20 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [CDNi] Warren Kumari's No Objection on draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-07: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 12:42:21 -0000 Warren Kumari has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-07: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you for writing this, also thank you for addressing the OpsDir Review comments. Also thank you to wangzitao@huawei.com for the review. 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Benjamin Kaduk via Datatracker To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions@ietf.org, Kevin Ma , cdni-chairs@ietf.org, kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com, cdni@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.105.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Benjamin Kaduk Message-ID: <157126059402.7932.18184605997089219715.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 14:16:34 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [CDNi] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-07: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 21:16:34 -0000 Benjamin Kaduk has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-07: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Section 2 o Footprint: The dCDN may want to have a different target per footprint. Note that a dCDN may spread across multiple geographies. This makes it easier to route client requests to a nearby request router. Though this can be achieved using a single canonical name and Geo DNS, that approach has limitations; for We probably want a reference for "Geo DNS". A redirect target for DNS redirection is an IPv4 address used as an A record response, an IPv6 address used as an AAAA record response or a FQDN used as an alias in a CNAME record response (see [RFC1034]) of the uCDN DNS router. Note that DNS routers make routing decisions based on either the DNS resolver's IP address or the client IP address when EDNS0 client-subnet is used (see [RFC7871]). The dCDN may choose to advertise redirect targets and footprints to cover both cases. [...] We may want to say a bit more about how the dCDN's advertisements interact with the uCDN's DNS redirection decision here -- is the idea just that the set of redirect targets should try to be "close to" both the end-user and recursive resolver IP addresses that will be making requests of the uCDN? The following is an example of a Redirect Target capability object serialization that advertises a dCDN target address that is attached to a specific list of uCDN "redirecting-hosts". A uCDN host that is included in that list can redirect to the advertised dCDN redirect target. The capabilities object is serialized as a JSON object as defined in Section 5 of [RFC8008] To check my understanding: the Redirect Target capability object is a new object, in some sense a peer of the (e.g.) Delivery Protocol capability object, but encoded in a similar fashion as the objects specified in sections 5.3 through 5.7 of RFC 8008. In that case, I wonder if Section 5.2 or 5.1 is a better reference than the top-level Section 5 of RFC 8008. Section 2.2 Do we want an example with an IP address as well, to illustrate the full spectrum of possible behaviors? Section 2.3 My apologies for not doing much background reading, but what are the expected scenarios with respect to TLS usage? Is the redirect expected to preserve the URI scheme (http:// vs. https://) or could we go from one to the other as part of the redirect? (I do see that the example has an http:// redirection target.) I ask because there are probably some considerations here relating to the TLS server name indication, particularly for the case of redirection to an IP address. Section 2.4 It's quite possible I've confused myself, but in Figure 1 are the "redirecting-hosts" and "target host" swapped? The former is supposed to be an uCDN host, is it not? Section 3 o Error: A cache may receive a request that it cannot properly serve, for example, some of the metadata objects for that service were not properly acquired. In this case, the cache may resolve to redirect back to uCDN. nit: I think this last sentence would benefit from another word or two or some punctuation to clarify what/how the cache is resolving, e.g., quotes around "redirect back to uCDN" or "cache's action" or similar. The Fallback target metadata object is used to indicate the target address the dCDN should use in order to redirect a client back to the uCDN. Fallback target is represented as endpoint objects as defined in section 4.3.3 of [RFC8006]. nit: singular/plural mismatch "target"/"objects" The uCDN fallback target address may be used as a DNS A record, AAAA record or CNAME record in case of DNS redirection or a hostname for HTTP redirect. nit: I don't think "used as" is quite right (that is, the sense would apply in the other direction: a DNS A record might be used as a fallback target address) and could probably be removed. Section 3.2 [same comment about Figure 3 as for Figure 1 above] Section 5 The presence of a fallback uCDN host could make for a more tempting attack target -- if the fallback target is known, then an attacker could concentrate resources on that fallback host (more effectively DoS'd than the whole CDN) and thrash the cash on the dCDN to effect a DoS. This speaks to the need to keep the exchanged metadata confidential, as already noted, but is also a latent risk of the topology independently of keeping the metadata confidential. The attacks made possible by having the Redirect Target are mostly a subset of the generic risks listed in RFC 8006; by allowing per-host granularity of the uCDN behavior, there is perhaps a new opportunity to have degraded (but present) service, by directing requests to dCDN hosts that are "far away". This seems somewhat challenging for an active attacker to pull off, but may still be the result of misconfiguration. As I mentioned above, we probably need to say something about TLS usage for HTTP-level redirection, though I'm not sure yet what exactly that is, since I don't understand the expected usage yet. From nobody Thu Oct 17 01:19:20 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietf.org Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C260120838; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 01:19:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Zitao Wang via Datatracker To: Cc: draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions.all@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org, cdni@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.105.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Zitao Wang Message-ID: <157130035930.9380.3056970269022988671@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 01:19:19 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [CDNi] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-07 X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 08:19:19 -0000 Reviewer: Zitao Wang Review result: Ready I have reviewed this document as part of the Operational directorate’s ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG. These comments were written with the intent of improving the operational aspects of the IETF drafts. Comments that are not addressed in last call may be included in AD reviews during the IESG review. Document editors and WG chairs should treat these comments just like any other last call comments. Summary: The Open Caching working group of the Streaming Video Alliance is focused on the delegation of video delivery requests from commercial CDNs to a caching layer at the ISP. In that aspect, Open Caching is a specific use case of CDNI, where the commercial CDN is the upstream CDN (uCDN) and the ISP caching layer is the downstream CDN (dCDN). The extensions specified in this document to the CDNI Metadata and FCI interfaces are derived from requirements raised by Open Caching but are applicable to CDNI use cases in general. 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