From nobody Mon Feb 3 07:05:58 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D616A12004E; Mon, 3 Feb 2020 07:05:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T8ZLQvERhISg; Mon, 3 Feb 2020 07:05:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ed1-x52c.google.com (mail-ed1-x52c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::52c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4091A120059; Mon, 3 Feb 2020 07:05:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ed1-x52c.google.com with SMTP id r21so16370078edq.0; Mon, 03 Feb 2020 07:05:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=2z7gs5DbA3oXm7tnGscOV2q/DBTWRhimoN56KyHgwUo=; b=fAfAHMPqX8NGV3HMmRc2MlDvUhWQY+ztPFi+4ZOlnbZkVmVuZ+Ihju8mSJQGJMoO78 Tx1FuMzR9Dxfp1am7VxYbN603jCXYbdbeV99bVpSAvsL2O+PuC7q30UfzYvQmTp4pC99 /zVKDt9s9CIQjjm82DVlmz4cTTSO6AaDy2QQceY33ILxOlKyfhHhezn6FaPfH7/SFkIU P/6qRKv9MncD8/OjJLCKmpT1dJhui8zLeeEqu8FWLg/CKZVrL0qxnmNkynOItGm0HCJf obg/vPa7CdK4aYyU3RlVdINt9Sr3my8bq4YH9n41gIgzWDS3cGpv2dRsslSDVEMgGV+q 8hsw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=2z7gs5DbA3oXm7tnGscOV2q/DBTWRhimoN56KyHgwUo=; b=Q0ji8Ir1E6YyBr3X5EEuRBjsZeF59opsCR4OV36kDKwpLPuIZ6GKKEcd3FGAeG+rig PlOHfBPw8vHRWMOyid8qgncsSz1QR5hR+ieTmkAlgZzWvPB/Wb2Tf2wtp/Jvkyr8ACZR dizjgx2leP/eiKHXb9SYwlCQ0hRqhKFqnQQF/RllIlmlPn6TuFU0CLNP4VlaOav44gN9 vNZbUtFyXGioUkBumvtvHk+nwDLatpK/QvtU9UD4KgOm5NHDW1omeNPvf8nVmH1sw0v0 fF0321gVhE5OHi9ebljwYA5Q6P7JpTfzxiJoPF9WQWH33eGsYPovnOySqF5bGRToDEdZ 1ZEg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWccSqB7UAUiRAtR5FiiczgK2yxGCbZ8iRprFuoQeDHW/4Q/JsJ ipj2hfIZMB9YD6OicQcDtFqUBRZa7A3v8F/fQU7gVslRjYg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwOhybbRbzEDhPihaqrMdFPp8XGvaIbUTqlR/AYVxFIQDnzE/krAkYWcWiQfUbwuuoQVnBL5xYJm3ctUX7i0mw= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:a898:: with SMTP id ha24mr21123560ejb.374.1580742350376; Mon, 03 Feb 2020 07:05:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Vijay Gurbani Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2020 09:08:13 -0600 Message-ID: To: IETF ALTO , cdni@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004692b4059dad4231" Archived-At: Subject: [CDNi] WGLC for draft-ietf-alto-cdni-request-routing-alto-09 X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2020 15:05:54 -0000 --0000000000004692b4059dad4231 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" All: Jan and I will like to start WGLC for draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-alto-09. The WGLC period will run from Mon, Feb 3 2020 to Wed, Feb 19 2020. This email is also being cross-posted to the CDNI working group. We will like to have one WG list member from ALTO and one WG list member from CDNI review this draft in depth. Please send Jan and me an email if you are willing review the draft as part of WGLC. In addition, we will like general reviews of the draft from both ALTO and CDNI WGs. Thank you. --0000000000004692b4059dad4231 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All: Jan and I will like to start WGLC for
draft-ietf-= cdni-request-routing-alto-09.=C2=A0 The WGLC period will run from Mon,
= Feb 3 2020 to Wed, Feb 19 2020.

This email is also being cross-poste= d to the CDNI working group.

We will like to have one WG list member= from ALTO and one WG list member from
CDNI review this draft in de= pth.=C2=A0 Please send Jan and me an email if you are willing
rev= iew the draft as part of WGLC.

In addition, we= will like general reviews of the draft from both ALTO and CDNI WGs.
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Thank you. --0000000000004692b4059dad4231-- From nobody Fri Feb 14 07:22:36 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietf.org Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62BF7120839; Fri, 14 Feb 2020 07:22:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.117.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Cc: The IESG , cdni@ietf.org, cdni-chairs@ietf.org, Kevin Ma , barryleiba@gmail.com, kevin.j.ma.ietf@gmail.com, draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <158169375539.16219.9862051422255331840.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 07:22:35 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [CDNi] Protocol Action: 'CDNI Request Routing Extensions' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-08.txt) X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 15:22:35 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'CDNI Request Routing Extensions' (draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions-08.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Content Delivery Networks Interconnection Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Adam Roach, Alexey Melnikov and Barry Leiba. A URL of this Internet Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-extensions/ Technical Summary This document defines one new CDNI Metadata object (MI.FallbackTarget) and one new CDNI Capability object (FCI.RedirectTarget). The CDNI Metadata Interface (RFC8006) and CDNI Footprint and Capabilities Semantics (RFC8008) define generic base objects and registries to allow extensibility in defining new metadata and capabilities as the need arises. We did this knowing that we would not think of everything when we wrote RFC8006 and RFC8008. The Open Caching Working Group (OCWG) at the Streaming Video Alliance (SVA) has adopted the CDNI interfaces as the basis for their work, and in developing their solution discovered one additional metadata object and one additional capability object that they deemed necessary that the CDNI WG did not think of originally. We asked them to bring the new objects back to the CDNI WG for standardization and they did. This draft is the result of that request. Working Group Summary The CDNI WG has reviewed the new objects and agreed that they are reasonable and useful additions to the CDNI interfaces. We are requesting publication as "Proposed Standard" as the object extend the exiting RFC8006 and RFC8008 proposed standards. The contents of the document have been extensively reviewed within the SVA OCWG. Within the CDNI WG, an SVA OCWG representative presented a number of topics which received varying levels of discussion. The two new objects defined in this document were the least controversial items presented. Document Quality There was not extensive working group discussion, but the document also didn't need much discussion to garner quick and broad consensus. The two objects defined are relatively straight forward and in line with the purposes and goals of RFC8006 and RFC8008. Personnel Kevin Ma is the document shepherd; Barry Leiba is the responsible AD. From nobody Mon Feb 17 18:42:41 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cdni@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13164120089; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 09:19:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1mYwFnCPh-D5; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 09:19:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ua1-x936.google.com (mail-ua1-x936.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::936]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 833BF12007C; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 09:19:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ua1-x936.google.com with SMTP id 59so6410263uap.12; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 09:19:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=xe9xe/JBU72bNi59uANy6RvhGF7YFBAc21alhwi4RW8=; b=TF2J7DvzsPbIxHZ53helJKC6Z5bp9c+1iwNcuRE/0oJoiYCOe5gj1FTrcVyouu71Vm Chark+gwobsH4Ssg10783NQ4ndF6xRTVbxlN6IDhezx7z+fs589sRccZT/aQQIU1eHCD 2cR5j1W802G2zTBmVteUAkCWeCI3h90Bsf8VcG7QyD8FnInQuE6I0VUVwP5ZQLPvS+sT H7J1P7YLMLRvNUhswLZ5huuO7qGuoEL9C6QjngjFrBoxTlkSo068uzHhxSsPqcFJvybt Kj15ayv9eGbpIYDAokTUb5BzZCGwzCrUhoPDNO3hIz9BrNWxrlSjs8h/AYyNFfanaGcB qXug== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=xe9xe/JBU72bNi59uANy6RvhGF7YFBAc21alhwi4RW8=; b=VXGOeBpXqrB5+imRYKN2P9dymGNggpn0IoexOx5VccXTdtFj6H8dxF3iWf7qj4kB1k C/X28+irYUt6ZQTpl+oua+yFQgOlrtWleHXty/XeKBO4MLS6BE3977wZVrsf2QaAuSQL xWc4zqcr8acMbRtLM2DO03QFwcfDZhPW9nfyIKk1qfzxb6zg1u1tCaYSMutbB8Ro59P8 /87+rHjfk8vcFa3SBAg3M+IyPFZZs6J7oP228Au/ssfWLRdmbhsNi3r/kZCMCHCE5NCF AbDzsyPGfXw3jMYlhicSSITm+ApbObzdAf7azFJNSHNDA7EeRsadVIYitNBpEz+di07b kxNA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAW4JjPR8N0PWW4qvPfNO1ySWWyaxu46LW7cTJUlOQCCJAOHiCYg gGhDlU1A3SjskKaJuAo1ltlsUuBp2SsYALbyV35lr/S2Yvg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwd9D1UYbr2sltr+EXJX0JRwLcTTtL8i01BFAeJzt/SuxyNOra9+MSRR4ODWEd39YoiqcuRj/G8DYlMMmuIW6c= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:7607:: with SMTP id o7mr8213840uap.133.1581959984891; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 09:19:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Danny Alex Lachos Perez Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 14:19:33 -0300 Message-ID: To: IETF ALTO , cdni@ietf.org Cc: Vijay Gurbani Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f2cadb059ec8c246" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [CDNi] [alto] WGLC for draft-ietf-alto-cdni-request-routing-alto-09 X-BeenThere: cdni@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "This list is to discuss issues associated with the Interconnection of Content Delivery Networks \(CDNs\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 17:19:51 -0000 --000000000000f2cadb059ec8c246 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Dear authors, I have performed a review of this draft (-09). My comments are below: 1) Section 2.2 "Application-Layer Traffic Optimization (ALTO) [RFC7285 ] is an approach for guiding the resource provider selection process in distributed applications that can choose among several candidate resources providers to retrieve a given resource. By conveying network layer (topology) information, an ALTO server can provide important information to "guide" the resource provider selection process in distributed applications." The two paragraphs are very similar in content, consider merging. E.g.: "Application-Layer Traffic Optimization (ALTO) [RFC7285] is an approach for conveying network layer (topology) information to "guide" the resource provider selection process in distributed applications." 2) Section 2.2 "Recently, however, ALTO is also being considered for improving the request routing in CDNs [I-D.jenkins-alto-cdn-use-cases ]." The reference dates from 2012 and it is an expired draft 3) Section 2.2 "This would enable a uCDN to determine if a given dCDN actually has the capabilities for a given request with respect to the type of content requested." Wordy sentence, consider rewriting: e.g., "This would enable a uCDN to determine if a dCDN actually has the capabilities for a given type of content request." 4) Section 2.1 " related to CDNI Metadata. o" Remove last bullet (there is no text) 5) Introduction "instead of getting the full resource which can be huge. Section 6 " Consider adding a comma: "instead of getting the full resource*,* which can be huge. Section 6" 6) Introduction "Section 7 and Section 8 respectively." Consider adding a comma: "Section 7 and Section 8, respectively." 7) Section 2.2 " in particular for an FCI protocol: o" Remove bullet (there is no text) 8) Section 4.2.4 "In this example, the ALTO client is interested in changes of "my- cdnifci-with-pid-footprints". Considering two changes, the first one" Consider rewriting: "In this example, the ALTO client is interested in two changes of "my- cdnifci-with-pid-footprints". The first one" 9) Section 2.2 "design of ALTO supports server pushed incremental updates [I-D.ietf-alto-incr-update-sse ]." Consider updating the reference sse-17 -> sse-19 10) Section 2.2 " ALTO Path Vector Extension [I-D.ietf-alto-path-vector ] is designed to allow" Consider updating the reference vector-08 -> vector-09 11) Section 2.2 "footprint by a dCDN, in particular if such a footprint is being" Consider adding a comma: "... in particular*,* if such ..." 12) Section 2.2 "would enable a dCDN to directly inform a uCDN about such changes." Consider rewriting: "to directly inform a uCDN about such changes" -> "to inform a uCDN about such changes directly" 13) Section 3.6 "value and footprints, where footprints are defined in " Consider adding a comma: "... value, and footprints ..." 14) Section 5.6 "an full CDNI FCI resource (See Section 3.6 .)" "an full" -> a full 15) Section 6 "CDNI capabilities, the most natrual way to satisfy this requirement" "natrual" -> "natural" 16) Section 6 " is to use the ALTO property map defined in [I-D.ietf-alto-unified-props-new ]." Consider updating the reference new-09 -> new-10 17) Section 6.1.1.2 "The entity identifiers of entities in an asn domain is encoded as a" Consider changing the verb form: "The entity identifiers of entities in an asn domain *are* encoded..." 18) Section 6.1.2.2 "The entity identifiers of entities in a countrycode domain is encoded" Consider changing the verb form: "The entity identifiers of entities in a countrycode domain *are* encoded..." 19) Section 7.1 "A new footprint type is to be registred" Typo: "registred" -> registered 20) Section 7.3 "property type is to be registred, listed in Table 3." Typo: "registred" -> registered 21) Section 8 "Security Considerations (Section 15 ) of the base protocol fully apply" Consider fixing the link "Section 15" 22) Section 8 "expoing all full/filtered CDNI FCI resources in one of its IRDs." "expoing" -> "exposing" Best regards, Danny Lachos On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 1:06 PM Vijay Gurbani wrote: > All: Jan and I will like to start WGLC for > draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-alto-09. The WGLC period will run from > Mon, > Feb 3 2020 to Wed, Feb 19 2020. > > This email is also being cross-posted to the CDNI working group. > > We will like to have one WG list member from ALTO and one WG list member > from > CDNI review this draft in depth. Please send Jan and me an email if you > are willing > review the draft as part of WGLC. > > In addition, we will like general reviews of the draft from both ALTO and > CDNI WGs. > > Thank you. > _______________________________________________ > alto mailing list > alto@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/alto > --000000000000f2cadb059ec8c246 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear authors,

I have per= formed a=C2=A0review=C2=A0of this draft (-0= 9).
My comments are below:

1) Section 2.2
   "Application-Layer Traffic Optimization (ALTO) [RFC7285] is an
   approach for guiding the resource provider selection process in
   distributed applications that can choose among several candidate
   resources providers to retrieve a given resource.  By conveying
   network layer (topology) information, an ALTO server can provide
   important information to "guide" the resource provider selecti=
on
   process in distributed applications."
=C2= =A0The two paragraphs are very similar in content, consider merging. E.g.:<= /div>
"Application-Layer Traffic Optimization (ALTO) [RFC7285] is = an approach for conveying network layer (topology) information to "gui= de" the resource provider selection process in distributed application= s."

2) Sec= tion 2.2
I-D.jenkins-alto-cdn-use-cases]."
=
The reference dates from 2012 and it is an expired= draft

3) Section 2.2
"Thi= s would enable a uCDN to
      determine if a given dCDN a=
ctually has the capabilities for a
      given request with respect to the type of content requested."
Wordy sentence, consider rewriting: e.g., "This wo= uld enable a uCDN to determine if a dCDN actually has the capabilities for = a given type of content request."
4) Section 2.1
"      related to CDNI Metadata.
   o"
Remove last bullet (the=
re is no text)

5) Introduction
=

=

"instead of gettin=
g the full resource which can be huge.  Section 6&q=
uot;
Consider adding a comma: "instead of gett=
ing the full resource, which can be huge. Section 6"

6) Introduction
"Section 7 and Section 8 respectively."
Consider adding a comma: "Section 7 and Section 8, respective=
ly."

7) Section 2.2
"   in particular fo=
r an FCI protocol:

   o"
Remove bullet (there is no te=
xt)

8) Section 4.2.4
<=
div>
<=
div>
"In this examp=
le, the ALTO client is interested in changes of "my-
   cdnifci-with-pid-footprints".  Considering two changes, the first o=
ne"
Consider rewriting: "In th=
is example, the ALTO client is interested in two changes of "my- cdnif=
ci-with-pid-footprints". The first one"

9) Section 2.2
"design of ALTO supports server pushed incremental updates
<=
/div>
Consider updating the reference
<=
/blockquote>
sse-17 -> sse-19

10) S=
ection 2.2
&=
quot;  ALTO Path
      Vector Extension [I-D.ietf-alto-path-vector] is de=
signed to allow"
Consider updating the re=
ference
vector-08 -> vector-09

11) Section 2.2
"footprint by a dCDN, in particular
      if such a footprint is being"
Consi=
der adding a comma: "... in particular, if such ..."
=


12) Section 2.2=C2=A0
"would enable a =
dCDN to directly inform a uCDN about such changes."
Consider rewriting: "to directly inform a uCDN about such c=
hanges" -> "to inform a uCDN about such changes directly"=


13) Section 3.6
=

"value =
and footprints, where footprints are defined in "
Consider adding a comma: "... value, and footprints=C2=A0...&qu=
ot;

14) Section 5.6
<=
/div>
=

"an full=
 CDNI FCI resource (See Section 3.6.)"
=

"an full" -> a full

15) Section 6
"CDNI capabilities, the most natru=
al way to satisfy this requirement"
"natrua=
l" -> "natural"

16) Section 6
"   is to use the ALTO property map defined in
   [I-D.ietf-alto-unified-props-new].=
"
Consider updating the r=
eference
new-09 -> new-10
=


17) Section 6.1.1.2
=

=

"The entity i=
dentifiers of entities in an asn domain is encoded as a"
Consider changing the verb form: "The entity identifiers=
 of entities in an asn domain are encoded..."

18) Section 6.1.2.2
"The entity identifi=
ers of entities in a countrycode domain is encoded"
Consider changing the verb form: "The entity identifiers of entities in a countrycode doma=
in are encoded..."

=

19) Section 7.1
"A new footprint type is to be registred"=
;
Typo: "registred" -> registered

20) Section 7.3
<=
blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px">
<=
div>
"property type=
 is to be registred, listed in Table 3."
Ty=
po: "registred" -> registered

21) Section 8
"Security Considerations (Sect=
ion 15) of the base protocol fully apply"
=

=

Consider fixing the link "Section 15"

22) Section 8
"expoing all full/filtered CDNI FCI resou=
rces in one of its IRDs."
"expoing" -> &q=
uot;exposing"

Best=C2=A0regards,

Danny Lachos


On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 1:06 PM Vijay Gurbani <vijay.gurbani@gmail.com> wrote:=

All: Jan and I will like to start WGLC for 
draft-ietf-cdni-request-ro=
uting-alto-09.=C2=A0 The WGLC period will run from Mon, 
Feb 3 2020 to W=
ed, Feb 19 2020.

This email is also being cross-posted to the CDNI w=
orking group.

We will like to have one WG list member from ALTO and =
one WG list member from
CDNI review this draft in depth.=C2=A0 Plea=
se send Jan and me an email if you are willing
review the draft a=
s part of WGLC.

In addition, we will like gene=
ral reviews of the draft from both ALTO and CDNI WGs.

T=
hank you.

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Dear Danny,

thank you very much for reading the draft carefully and for your 
comments! We will go through them and address them.

  - Jan (and co-authors)

On 17.02.20 18:19, Danny Alex Lachos Perez wrote:
> Dear authors,
>
> I have performed a review of this draft (-09).
> My comments are below:
>
> 1) Section 2.2
>
>         "Application-Layer Traffic Optimization (ALTO) [RFC7285  ] is an
>         approach for guiding the resource provider selection process in
>         distributed applications that can choose among several candidate
>         resources providers to retrieve a given resource.  By conveying
>         network layer (topology) information, an ALTO server can provide
>         important information to "guide" the resource provider selection
>         process in distributed applications."
>
>      The two paragraphs are very similar in content, consider merging.
>     E.g.:
>     "Application-Layer Traffic Optimization (ALTO) [RFC7285] is an
>     approach for conveying network layer (topology) information to
>     "guide" the resource provider selection process in distributed
>     applications."
>
> 2) Section 2.2
>
>     "Recently, however, ALTO is
>         also being considered for improving the request routing in CDNs
>         [I-D.jenkins-alto-cdn-use-cases  ]."
>
>     The reference dates from 2012 and it is an expired draft
>
>
> 3) Section 2.2
>
>        "This would enable a uCDN to
>
>        determine if a given dCDN actually has the capabilities for a
>        given request with respect to the type of content requested."
>
>     Wordy sentence, consider rewriting: e.g., "This would enable a
>     uCDN to determine if a dCDN actually has the capabilities for a
>     given type of content request."
>
>
> 4) Section 2.1
>
>     "      related to CDNI Metadata.
>
>     o"
>
>     Remove last bullet (there is no text)
>
>
> 5) Introduction
>
>     "instead of getting the full resource which can be huge.Section 6  "
>
>     Consider adding a comma: "instead of getting the full resource*,*
>     which can be huge. Section 6"
>
>
> 6) Introduction
>
>     "Section 7    andSection 8    respectively."
>
>     Consider adding a comma: "Section 7 and Section 8, respectively."
>
>
> 7) Section 2.2
>
>     "   in particular for an FCI protocol:
>
>         o"
>
>     Remove bullet (there is no text)
>
>
> 8) Section 4.2.4
>
>     "In this example, the ALTO client is interested in changes of "my-
>         cdnifci-with-pid-footprints".  Considering two changes, the first one"
>
>     Consider rewriting: "In this example, the ALTO client is
>     interested in two changes of "my- cdnifci-with-pid-footprints".
>     The first one"
>
> 9) Section 2.2
>
>     "design of ALTO supports server pushed incremental updates
>
>            [I-D.ietf-alto-incr-update-sse  ].."
>
>     Consider updating the reference
>
>     sse-17 -> sse-19
>
>
> 10) Section 2.2
>
>     "  ALTO Path
>            Vector Extension [I-D.ietf-alto-path-vector  ] is designed to allow"
>
>     Consider updating the reference
>
>     vector-08 -> vector-09
>
>
> 11) Section 2.2
>
>     "footprint by a dCDN, in particular
>            if such a footprint is being"
>
>     Consider adding a comma: "... in particular*,* if such ..."
>
>
> 12) Section 2.2
>
>     "would enable a dCDN to directly inform a uCDN about such changes."
>
>     Consider rewriting: "to directly inform a uCDN about such changes"
>     -> "to inform a uCDN about such changes directly"
>
>
> 13) Section 3.6
>
>     "value and footprints, where footprints are defined in"
>
>     Consider adding a comma: "... value, and footprints ..."
>
>
> 14) Section 5.6
>
>     "an full CDNI FCI resource (SeeSection 3.6  .)"
>
>     "an full" -> a full
>
>
> 15) Section 6
>
>     "CDNI capabilities, the most natrual way to satisfy this requirement"
>
>     "natrual" -> "natural"
>
>
> 16) Section 6
>
>     "   is to use the ALTO property map defined in
>         [I-D.ietf-alto-unified-props-new  ]."
>
>     Consider updating the reference
>
>     new-09 -> new-10
>
>
> 17) Section 6.1.1.2
>
>     "The entity identifiers of entities in an asn domain is encoded as a"
>
>     Consider changing the verb form: "The entity identifiers of
>     entities in an asn domain *are* encoded..."
>
>
> 18) Section 6.1.2.2
>
>     "The entity identifiers of entities in a countrycode domain is encoded"
>
>     Consider changing the verb form: "The entity identifiers of
>     entities in a countrycode domain *are* encoded..."
>
>
> 19) Section 7.1
>
>     "A new footprint type is to be registred"
>
>     Typo: "registred" -> registered
>
> 20) Section 7.3
>
>     "property type is to be registred, listed in Table 3."
>
>     Typo: "registred" -> registered
>
>
> 21) Section 8
>
>     "Security Considerations (Section 15  ) of the base protocol fully apply"
>
>     Consider fixing the link "Section 15"
>
>
> 22) Section 8
>
>     "expoing all full/filtered CDNI FCI resources in one of its IRDs."
>
>     "expoing" -> "exposing"
>
>
> Bestregards,
>
> Danny Lachos
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 1:06 PM Vijay Gurbani  > wrote:
>
>     All: Jan and I will like to start WGLC for
>     draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-alto-09.  The WGLC period will run
>     from Mon,
>     Feb 3 2020 to Wed, Feb 19 2020.
>
>     This email is also being cross-posted to the CDNI working group.
>
>     We will like to have one WG list member from ALTO and one WG list
>     member from
>     CDNI review this draft in depth.  Please send Jan and me an email
>     if you are willing
>     review the draft as part of WGLC.
>
>     In addition, we will like general reviews of the draft from both
>     ALTO and CDNI WGs.
>
>     Thank you.
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Dear Danny,

    
thank you very much for reading the draft carefully and for your
      comments! We will go through them and address them.

    
 - Jan (and co-authors)

    

    
On 17.02.20 18:19, Danny Alex Lachos
      Perez wrote:

    

    

      
      

        

          
Dear authors,

            

            
I have performed a review of
              this draft (-09).

            
My comments are below:

            

          

          


          

          

            
1) Section 2.2

            

              

                

                  
   "Application-Layer Traffic Optimization (ALTO) [RFC7285] is an
   approach for guiding the resource provider selection process in
   distributed applications that can choose among several candidate
   resources providers to retrieve a given resource.  By conveying
   network layer (topology) information, an ALTO server can provide
   important information to "guide" the resource provider selection
   process in distributed applications."

                

              

              

                
 The two paragraphs are very similar in content,
                  consider merging. E.g.:

                
"Application-Layer Traffic Optimization (ALTO)
                  [RFC7285] is an approach for conveying network layer
                  (topology) information to "guide" the resource
                  provider selection process in distributed
                  applications."

                


                

              

            

          

          

            

              
2) Section 2.2

            

            

              

                

                  
"Recently, however, ALTO is
   also being considered for improving the request routing in CDNs
   [I-D.jenkins-alto-cdn-use-cases]."

                

              

            

            

              
The reference dates from
                2012 and it is an expired draft

            

          

          

            


            

            
3) Section 2.2

          

          

            

              

                
  "This would enable a uCDN to

              

            

          

          

            

              
      determine if a given dCDN actually has the capabilities for a
      given request with respect to the type of content requested."

            

          

          

            

              
Wordy sentence, consider rewriting: e.g., "This would
                enable a uCDN to determine if a dCDN actually has the
                capabilities for a given type of content request."

            

          

          

            


            

            
4) Section 2.1
              

                

                  
"      related to CDNI Metadata.

                

                

                  
   o"

                

                
Remove last bullet (there is no text)

              

              

            

            
5) Introduction

          

          

            

              
"instead of getting the full resource which can be huge.  Section 6"

            

          

          

            
Consider adding a comma: "instead of getting the full
              resource, which can be huge. Section 6"

          

          

            


            

            
6) Introduction

          

          

            

              
"Section 7 and Section 8 respectively."

            

          

          

            
Consider adding a comma: "Section 7 and Section 8,
              respectively."

          

          


          

          
7) Section 2.2

          

            

              

                
"   in particular for an FCI protocol:

   o"

              

            

          

          

            

              
Remove bullet (there is no text)

              

            

          

          


          

          
8) Section 4.2.4

          

            

              

                
"In this example, the ALTO client is interested in changes of "my-
   cdnifci-with-pid-footprints".  Considering two changes, the first one"

              

            

          

          

            

              
Consider rewriting: "In this example, the ALTO client
                is interested in two changes of "my-
                cdnifci-with-pid-footprints". The first one"

              


              

            

          

          9) Section 2.2
          

            

              
"design of ALTO supports server pushed incremental updates

            

            
          

          

            

              
Consider updating the reference

            

            

              
sse-17 -> sse-19

            

            


            

            
10) Section 2.2

          

          

            

              
"  ALTO Path
      Vector Extension [I-D.ietf-alto-path-vector] is designed to allow"

            

          

          

            

              
Consider updating the reference

            

          

          

            
vector-08 -> vector-09

          

          

            


            

            
11) Section 2.2

          

          

            

              
"footprint by a dCDN, in particular
      if such a footprint is being"

            

          

          

            

              
Consider adding a comma: "... in particular,
                if such ..."

            

          

          

            


            

            
12) Section 2.2 

          

          

            

              
"would enable a dCDN to directly inform a uCDN about such changes."

            

          

          

            

              
Consider rewriting: "to directly inform a uCDN about
                such changes" -> "to inform a uCDN about such changes
                directly"

              

            

          

          

            


            

            
13) Section 3.6

          

          

            

              

                
"value and footprints, where footprints are defined in "

              

            

            

              
Consider adding a comma: "... value, and
                footprints ..."

            

          

          

            


            

            
14) Section 5.6

          

          

            

              

                
"an full CDNI FCI resource (See Section 3.6.)"

              

            

            

              
"an full" -> a full

            

          

          

            


            

            
15) Section 6

          

          

            

              

                
"CDNI capabilities, the most natrual way to satisfy this requirement"

              

            

            
"natrual" -> "natural"

          

          

            


            

            
16) Section 6

          

          

            

              

                
"   is to use the ALTO property map defined in
   [I-D.ietf-alto-unified-props-new]."

              

            

          

          

            

              

                

                  
Consider updating the reference

                

              

            

            

              

                
new-09 -> new-10

              

            

          

          

            


            

            
17) Section 6.1.1.2

          

          

            

              

                
"The entity identifiers of entities in an asn domain is encoded as a"

              

            

            

              
Consider changing the verb form: "The entity
                identifiers of entities in an asn domain are
                encoded..."

            

          

          

            


            

            

              

                
18) Section 6.1.2.2

              

              

                

                  
"The entity identifiers of entities in a countrycode domain is encoded"


                

                
Consider changing the verb form: "The
                    entity identifiers of entities in a countrycode
                    domain are encoded..."

                

              

            

            


            

            

              

                
19) Section 7.1

              

              

                

                  
"A new footprint type is to be registred"


                

                

                  
Typo: "registred" -> registered

                

                


                

              

            

            
20) Section 7.3

          

          

            

              

                
"property type is to be registred, listed in Table 3."

              

            

            

              
Typo: "registred" -> registered

            

          

          

            


            

            
21) Section 8

          

          

            

              
"Security Considerations (Section 15) of the base protocol fully apply"

            

          

          

            

              
Consider fixing the link "Section 15"

            

          

          

            


            

            
22) Section 8

          

          

            

              
"expoing all full/filtered CDNI FCI resources in one of its IRDs."

            

            
"expoing" -> "exposing"

          

        

        


          

            

              

                

                  

                    
Best regards,

                      


                      

                      
Danny Lachos

                    

                  

                

              

            

          

          

        

        

        

          
On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 1:06
            PM Vijay Gurbani <vijay.gurbani@gmail.com>
            wrote:

          

          

            
All: Jan and I will like to start WGLC for 

              draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-alto-09.  The WGLC period
              will run from Mon, 

              Feb 3 2020 to Wed, Feb 19 2020.

              

              This email is also being cross-posted to the CDNI working
              group.

              

              We will like to have one WG list member from ALTO and one
              WG list member from

              
CDNI review this draft in depth.  Please send Jan and
                me an email if you are willing

              
review the draft as part of WGLC.

              

              


              

              
In addition, we will like general reviews of the
                draft from both ALTO and CDNI WGs.

              


              

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Dear Sanjay,

thank you very much for reading the draft carefully and for your 
comments! We will go through them and address them.

  - Jan (and co-authors)

On 20.02.20 00:12, sanjay.mishra=40verizon.com@dmarc.ietf.org wrote:
>
> I have review draft-ietf-alto-cdni-request-routing-alto-09 and don’t 
> have any issues except some minor suggestions and nits.
>
> *Sec 1 Introduction:*
>
> 1.If by using “functionalities” below is meant to reference the two 
> RFC (RFC 7975 & RFC 8008), semantically, it may be better to state 
> that the request routing interface is covered in two separate RFCs and 
> reference the two RFC by name and number.
>
> a.Correspondingly, the request routing interface is broadly divided 
> into two functionalities: (1) CDNI Footprint & Capabilities 
> Advertisement interface (FCI), and (2) CDNI Request Routing 
> Redirection interface (RI).
>
> 2.(replace is -> are)
>
> a.A protocol to transport and update such objects between a uCDN and a 
> dCDN, however, is not defined
>
> 3.(delete “some”)
>
> b.In this way, a uCDN can effectively fetch capabilities of some 
> footprints in which it is interested
>
> 4.(add “as defined” instead of “defined” in two places in the sentence 
> starting as below)
>
> c.Throughout this document, we use the terminologies for CDNI defined…
>
> *Section 2.1:*
>
> 5.(replace “For a detailed discussions” with “For detailed information…” )
>
> d.For a detailed discussion, the reader is referred to the RFCs.
>
> 6.Remove extra sub bullet at the end of section 2.1 since there is no 
> text (check the document for other instances of bullet but no text).
>
> *Section 2.2:*
>
> 7.Remove reference to I-D.jenkins-alto-cdn-use-cases
>
> 8.Replace (“Identifications -> Identification): Security: 
> Identifications between uCDNs and dCDNs are extremely important
>
> 9.Can an example be added of what unexpected cases authors envision?
>
> a.Error-handling: The ALTO protocol has undergone extensive revisions 
> in order to provide sophisticated error-handling, in particular 
> regarding unexpected cases
>
> *Section 6:*
>
> 10.Re-word (“First, we describe how to represent”)
>
> a.We firstly describe how to represent
>
> 11.Replace (“And then” with “Second”)
>
> *Section 8:*
>
> 12.Add a colon  after follows
>
> a.included as follows.
>
> 13.Needs some rewording for the sentence below:
>
> a.For availability of ALTO services, an attacker may get the potential 
> huge full CDNI
>
> Thanks
>
> Sanjay
>
> *From:*CDNi [mailto:cdni-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Vijay Gurbani
> *Sent:* Monday, February 3, 2020 10:08 AM
> *To:* IETF ALTO ; cdni@ietf.org
> *Subject:* [E] [CDNi] WGLC for 
> draft-ietf-alto-cdni-request-routing-alto-09
>
> All: Jan and I will like to start WGLC for
> draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-alto-09.  The WGLC period will run 
> from Mon,
> Feb 3 2020 to Wed, Feb 19 2020.
>
> This email is also being cross-posted to the CDNI working group.
>
> We will like to have one WG list member from ALTO and one WG list 
> member from
>
> CDNI review this draft in depth.  Please send Jan and me an email if 
> you are willing
>
> review the draft as part of WGLC.
>
> In addition, we will like general reviews of the draft from both ALTO 
> and CDNI WGs.
>
> Thank you.
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>
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Dear Sanjay,

    

    
thank you very much for reading the draft carefully and for your
      comments! We will go through them and address them.

    
 - Jan (and co-authors)

    
On 20.02.20 00:12,
      sanjay.mishra=40verizon.com@dmarc.ietf.org wrote:

    

    

      
      
      
      

        
I
            have review draft-ietf-alto-cdni-request-routing-alto-09 and
            don’t have any issues except some minor suggestions and
            nits.

        
 

        
Sec
              1 Introduction:

        
1.      
              If
            by using “functionalities” below is meant to reference the
            two RFC (RFC 7975 & RFC 8008), semantically, it may be
            better to state that the request routing interface is
            covered in two separate RFCs and reference the two RFC by
            name and number. 
            

        

          a.      
            Correspondingly, the request
          routing interface is broadly divided into two functionalities:
          (1) CDNI Footprint & Capabilities Advertisement interface
          (FCI), and (2) CDNI Request Routing Redirection interface
          (RI).

        
 

        
2.      
              (replace
            is -> are)

        

          a.      
              A protocol to transport
          and update such objects between a uCDN and a dCDN, however, is
          not defined
          

        
3.      
              (delete
            “some”)

        

          b.     
              In this way, a uCDN can
          effectively fetch capabilities of some footprints in which it
          is interested

        
4.      
              (add
            “as defined” instead of “defined” in two places in the
            sentence starting as below)

        

          c.      
              Throughout this
          document, we use the terminologies for CDNI defined…

        
 

        
Section
              2.1:

        
5.      
              (replace
            “For a detailed discussions” with “For detailed
            information…” )

        

          d.     
              For a detailed
          discussion, the reader is referred to the RFCs.

        
6.      
              Remove
            extra sub bullet at the end of section 2.1 since there is no
            text (check the document for other instances of bullet but
            no text).

        
 

        
Section
              2.2:

        
7.      
              Remove
            reference to
          I-D.jenkins-alto-cdn-use-cases

        
8.      
              Replace
            (“Identifications -> Identification):
          Security: Identifications between uCDNs and dCDNs are
          extremely important

        
9.      
              Can
            an example be added of what unexpected cases authors
            envision?
            

        

          a.      
              Error-handling: The
          ALTO protocol has undergone extensive revisions in order to
          provide sophisticated error-handling, in particular regarding
          unexpected cases

        
Section
              6:

        
10.  
              Re-word
            (“First, we describe how to represent”)

        

          a.      
              We firstly describe how
          to represent

        
11.  
              Replace
            (“And then” with “Second”)

        
 

        
Section
              8:

        
12.  
              Add
            a colon  after follows

        

          a.      
              included as follows.

        
13.  
              Needs
            some rewording for the sentence below:

        

          a.      
              For availability of
          ALTO services, an attacker may get the potential huge full
          CDNI

        
 

        
Thanks

        
Sanjay

        
 

        
From:
            CDNi [mailto:cdni-bounces@ietf.org]
            On Behalf Of Vijay Gurbani

            Sent: Monday, February 3, 2020 10:08 AM

            To: IETF ALTO <alto@ietf.org>; cdni@ietf.org

            Subject: [E] [CDNi] WGLC for
            draft-ietf-alto-cdni-request-routing-alto-09

        
 

        
All: Jan and I will like to start WGLC for
          

          draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-alto-09.  The WGLC period will
          run from Mon, 

          Feb 3 2020 to Wed, Feb 19 2020.

          

          This email is also being cross-posted to the CDNI working
          group.

          

          We will like to have one WG list member from ALTO and one WG
          list member from

        

          
CDNI review this draft in depth.  Please
            send Jan and me an email if you are willing

        

        

          
review the draft as part of WGLC.

        

        

          
 

        

        

          
In addition, we will like general reviews
            of the draft from both ALTO and CDNI WGs.

        

        

          
 

        

        
Thank you.

      

      

      

      
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Dear Danny,

Thank you so much for the excellent review. We are working on them and will
get a version by Tuesday.

Richard

On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 12:20 PM Danny Alex Lachos Perez <
dlachosper@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear authors,
>
> I have performed a review of this draft (-09).
> My comments are below:
>
> 1) Section 2.2
>
>    "Application-Layer Traffic Optimization (ALTO) [RFC7285 ] is an
>    approach for guiding the resource provider selection process in
>    distributed applications that can choose among several candidate
>    resources providers to retrieve a given resource.  By conveying
>    network layer (topology) information, an ALTO server can provide
>    important information to "guide" the resource provider selection
>    process in distributed applications."
>
>  The two paragraphs are very similar in content, consider merging. E.g.:
> "Application-Layer Traffic Optimization (ALTO) [RFC7285] is an approach
> for conveying network layer (topology) information to "guide" the resource
> provider selection process in distributed applications."
>
> 2) Section 2.2
>
> "Recently, however, ALTO is
>    also being considered for improving the request routing in CDNs
>    [I-D.jenkins-alto-cdn-use-cases ]."
>
> The reference dates from 2012 and it is an expired draft
>
>
> 3) Section 2.2
>
>   "This would enable a uCDN to
>
>       determine if a given dCDN actually has the capabilities for a
>       given request with respect to the type of content requested."
>
> Wordy sentence, consider rewriting: e.g., "This would enable a uCDN to
> determine if a dCDN actually has the capabilities for a given type of
> content request."
>
>
> 4) Section 2.1
>
> "      related to CDNI Metadata.
>
>    o"
>
> Remove last bullet (there is no text)
>
>
> 5) Introduction
>
> "instead of getting the full resource which can be huge.  Section 6 "
>
> Consider adding a comma: "instead of getting the full resource*,* which
> can be huge. Section 6"
>
>
> 6) Introduction
>
> "Section 7  and Section 8  respectively."
>
> Consider adding a comma: "Section 7 and Section 8, respectively."
>
>
> 7) Section 2.2
>
> "   in particular for an FCI protocol:
>
>    o"
>
> Remove bullet (there is no text)
>
>
> 8) Section 4.2.4
>
> "In this example, the ALTO client is interested in changes of "my-
>    cdnifci-with-pid-footprints".  Considering two changes, the first one"
>
> Consider rewriting: "In this example, the ALTO client is interested in two
> changes of "my- cdnifci-with-pid-footprints". The first one"
>
> 9) Section 2.2
>
> "design of ALTO supports server pushed incremental updates
>
>       [I-D.ietf-alto-incr-update-sse ].."
>
> Consider updating the reference
>
> sse-17 -> sse-19
>
>
> 10) Section 2.2
>
> "  ALTO Path
>       Vector Extension [I-D.ietf-alto-path-vector ] is designed to allow"
>
> Consider updating the reference
>
> vector-08 -> vector-09
>
>
> 11) Section 2.2
>
> "footprint by a dCDN, in particular
>       if such a footprint is being"
>
> Consider adding a comma: "... in particular*,* if such ..."
>
>
> 12) Section 2.2
>
> "would enable a dCDN to directly inform a uCDN about such changes."
>
> Consider rewriting: "to directly inform a uCDN about such changes" -> "to
> inform a uCDN about such changes directly"
>
>
> 13) Section 3.6
>
> "value and footprints, where footprints are defined in "
>
> Consider adding a comma: "... value, and footprints ..."
>
>
> 14) Section 5.6
>
> "an full CDNI FCI resource (See Section 3.6 .)"
>
> "an full" -> a full
>
>
> 15) Section 6
>
> "CDNI capabilities, the most natrual way to satisfy this requirement"
>
> "natrual" -> "natural"
>
>
> 16) Section 6
>
> "   is to use the ALTO property map defined in
>    [I-D.ietf-alto-unified-props-new ]."
>
> Consider updating the reference
>
> new-09 -> new-10
>
>
> 17) Section 6.1.1.2
>
> "The entity identifiers of entities in an asn domain is encoded as a"
>
> Consider changing the verb form: "The entity identifiers of entities in an
> asn domain *are* encoded..."
>
>
> 18) Section 6.1.2.2
>
> "The entity identifiers of entities in a countrycode domain is encoded"
>
> Consider changing the verb form: "The entity identifiers of entities in a
> countrycode domain *are* encoded..."
>
>
> 19) Section 7.1
>
> "A new footprint type is to be registred"
>
> Typo: "registred" -> registered
>
> 20) Section 7.3
>
> "property type is to be registred, listed in Table 3."
>
> Typo: "registred" -> registered
>
>
> 21) Section 8
>
> "Security Considerations (Section 15 ) of the base protocol fully apply"
>
> Consider fixing the link "Section 15"
>
>
> 22) Section 8
>
> "expoing all full/filtered CDNI FCI resources in one of its IRDs."
>
> "expoing" -> "exposing"
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Danny Lachos
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 1:06 PM Vijay Gurbani 
> wrote:
>
>> All: Jan and I will like to start WGLC for
>> draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-alto-09.  The WGLC period will run from
>> Mon,
>> Feb 3 2020 to Wed, Feb 19 2020.
>>
>> This email is also being cross-posted to the CDNI working group.
>>
>> We will like to have one WG list member from ALTO and one WG list member
>> from
>> CDNI review this draft in depth.  Please send Jan and me an email if you
>> are willing
>> review the draft as part of WGLC.
>>
>> In addition, we will like general reviews of the draft from both ALTO and
>> CDNI WGs.
>>
>> Thank you.
>> _______________________________________________
>> alto mailing list
>> alto@ietf.org
>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/alto
>>
> _______________________________________________
> alto mailing list
> alto@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/alto
>
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Dear=C2=A0Danny,

Thank you so much for the excellent review. We are wo=
rking on them and will get a version by Tuesday.
Richard=C2=A0

On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 12:20 PM=
 Danny Alex Lachos Perez <dlacho=
sper@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear authors,

I have performe=
d a=C2=A0review=C2=A0of this draft (-09).
My comment=
s are below:

1) Section 2.2
   "Application-Layer Traffic Optimizat=
ion (ALTO) [RFC7285] is an
   approach for guiding the resource provider selection process in
   distributed applications that can choose among several candidate
   resources providers to retrieve a given resource.  By conveying
   network layer (topology) information, an ALTO server can provide
   important information to "guide" the resource provider selecti=
on
   process in distributed applications."
=C2=
=A0The two paragraphs are very similar in content, consider merging. E.g.:<=
/div>
"Application-Layer Traffic Optimization (ALTO) [RFC7285] is =
an approach for conveying network layer (topology) information to "gui=
de" the resource provider selection process in distributed application=
s."

2) Sec=
tion 2.2
"Recently, however, ALTO is
   also being considered for improving the request routing in CDNs
   [I-D.jenkins-alto-cdn-use-cases=
]."
The reference dates from 2012 an=
d it is an expired draft

3=
) Section 2.2
  "This woul=
d enable a uCDN to
      determine if a given dCDN actually has the capabilities f=
or a
      given request with respect to the type of content requested."
Wordy sentence, consider rewriting: e.g., "This wo=
uld enable a uCDN to determine if a dCDN actually has the capabilities for =
a given type of content request."
4) Section 2.1
"      related =
to CDNI Metadata.
   o"
Remove last bullet (=
there is no text)

5) Introduction
"instead of getting the full resource w=
hich can be huge.  Section 6"=
;
Consider adding a comma: "instead of getting=
 the full resource, which can be huge. Section 6"

6) Introduction
"Section 7 and Section 8 respectively."
=

Consider adding a comma: "Section 7 and Section 8, =
respectively."

7) Section 2.2
"   in particular for an FCI proto=
col:

   o"
Remove bullet (there is no te=
xt)

8) Section 4.2.4
<=
div>
<=
div>
"In this example, the ALTO client is i=
nterested in changes of "my-
   cdnifci-with-pid-footprints".  Considering two changes, the first o=
ne"
Consider rewriting: "In th=
is example, the ALTO client is interested in two changes of "my- cdnif=
ci-with-pid-footprints". The first one"

9) Section 2.2
"design of ALT=
O supports server pushed incremental updates
Consider updating the reference
sse-17 -> sse=
-19

10) Section 2.2
"  ALTO Path
      Vector Extension [I-D.ietf-alto-path=
-vector] is designed to allow"
Consid=
er updating the reference
vector-08 -> vector-09=


11) Section 2.2
"footprint by a dCDN, in particular
      if such a footprint is being"
Consi=
der adding a comma: "... in particular, if such ..."
=


12) Section 2.2=C2=A0
"would enable a dCDN to directly inform =
a uCDN about such changes."
Consider rew=
riting: "to directly inform a uCDN about such changes" -> &quo=
t;to inform a uCDN about such changes directly"

13) Section 3.6
"value and footprints, where footprints are defined =
in "
Consider adding a comma: "... val=
ue, and footprints=C2=A0..."

14) Section 5.6
"a=
n full CDNI FCI resource (See Secti=
on 3.6.)"
"an full" -> a f=
ull

15) Section 6
"CDNI capabilities, the most natru=
al way to satisfy this requirement"
"natrua=
l" -> "natural"

16) Section 6
"   is to =
use the ALTO property map defined in
   [I-D.ietf-alto-unifi=
ed-props-new]."
Consi=
der updating the reference
new-09 ->=
 new-10

17) Section =
6.1.1.2
"The entity identi=
fiers of entities in an asn domain is encoded as a"
<=
div>
Consider changing the verb form: "The entity identifiers of e=
ntities in an asn domain are encoded..."

18) Section 6.1.2.2
"The entity identifiers of entities in a countryc=
ode domain is encoded"
Consider changing the verb =
form: "The entity=
 identifiers of entities in a countrycode domain are encoded.=
.."

19) Sect=
ion 7.1
"A new footprint type i=
s to be registred"
Typo: "registred"=
; -> registered

20) Se=
ction 7.3
"property type i=
s to be registred, listed in Table 3."
Typo=
: "registred" -> registered
=

21) Section 8
Con=
sider fixing the link "Section 15"
<=
div>
22) Section 8
&qu=
ot;expoing all full/filtered CDNI FCI resources in one of its IRDs."
"expoing" -> "exposing"

Best=C2=A0regards,

Danny Lachos


On Mon, Feb 3, =
2020 at 1:06 PM Vijay Gurbani <vijay.gurbani@gmail.com> wrote:
All: Jan and I =
will like to start WGLC for 
draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-alto-09.=C2=
=A0 The WGLC period will run from Mon, 
Feb 3 2020 to Wed, Feb 19 2020.<=
br>
This email is also being cross-posted to the CDNI working group.
=

We will like to have one WG list member from ALTO and one WG list membe=
r from
CDNI review this draft in depth.=C2=A0 Please send Jan and m=
e an email if you are willing
review the draft as part of WGLC.

In addition, we will like general reviews of th=
e draft from both ALTO and CDNI WGs.

Thank you.

_______________________________________________

alto mailing list

alto@ietf.org

https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/alto



_______________________________________________

alto mailing list

alto@ietf.org

https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/alto

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Dear Sanjay,

Thank you so much for the careful review! We will follow the suggestions
and take a pass. In particular, we will enumerate a few examples of error
handling as suggested. We will post a new version by Tuesday.

Richard

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 6:12 PM 
wrote:

> I have review draft-ietf-alto-cdni-request-routing-alto-09 and don=E2=80=
=99t have
> any issues except some minor suggestions and nits.
>
>
>
> *Sec 1 Introduction:*
>
> 1.       If by using =E2=80=9Cfunctionalities=E2=80=9D below is meant to =
reference the
> two RFC (RFC 7975 & RFC 8008), semantically, it may be better to state th=
at
> the request routing interface is covered in two separate RFCs and referen=
ce
> the two RFC by name and number.
>
> a.       Correspondingly, the request routing interface is broadly
> divided into two functionalities: (1) CDNI Footprint & Capabilities
> Advertisement interface (FCI), and (2) CDNI Request Routing Redirection
> interface (RI).
>
>
>
> 2.       (replace is -> are)
>
> a.       A protocol to transport and update such objects between a uCDN
> and a dCDN, however, is not defined
>
> 3.       (delete =E2=80=9Csome=E2=80=9D)
>
> b.      In this way, a uCDN can effectively fetch capabilities of some
> footprints in which it is interested
>
> 4.       (add =E2=80=9Cas defined=E2=80=9D instead of =E2=80=9Cdefined=E2=
=80=9D in two places in the
> sentence starting as below)
>
> c.       Throughout this document, we use the terminologies for CDNI
> defined=E2=80=A6
>
>
>
> *Section 2.1:*
>
> 5.       (replace =E2=80=9CFor a detailed discussions=E2=80=9D with =E2=
=80=9CFor detailed
> information=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D )
>
> d.      For a detailed discussion, the reader is referred to the RFCs.
>
> 6.       Remove extra sub bullet at the end of section 2.1 since there is
> no text (check the document for other instances of bullet but no text).
>
>
>
> *Section 2.2:*
>
> 7.       Remove reference to I-D.jenkins-alto-cdn-use-cases
>
> 8.       Replace (=E2=80=9CIdentifications -> Identification): Security:
> Identifications between uCDNs and dCDNs are extremely important
>
> 9.       Can an example be added of what unexpected cases authors
> envision?
>
> a.       Error-handling: The ALTO protocol has undergone extensive
> revisions in order to provide sophisticated error-handling, in particular
> regarding unexpected cases
>
> *Section 6:*
>
> 10.   Re-word (=E2=80=9CFirst, we describe how to represent=E2=80=9D)
>
> a.       We firstly describe how to represent
>
> 11.   Replace (=E2=80=9CAnd then=E2=80=9D with =E2=80=9CSecond=E2=80=9D)
>
>
>
> *Section 8:*
>
> 12.   Add a colon  after follows
>
> a.       included as follows.
>
> 13.   Needs some rewording for the sentence below:
>
> a.       For availability of ALTO services, an attacker may get the
> potential huge full CDNI
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Sanjay
>
>
>
> *From:* CDNi [mailto:cdni-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Vijay Gurbani
> *Sent:* Monday, February 3, 2020 10:08 AM
> *To:* IETF ALTO ; cdni@ietf.org
> *Subject:* [E] [CDNi] WGLC for
> draft-ietf-alto-cdni-request-routing-alto-09
>
>
>
> All: Jan and I will like to start WGLC for
> draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-alto-09.  The WGLC period will run from
> Mon,
> Feb 3 2020 to Wed, Feb 19 2020.
>
> This email is also being cross-posted to the CDNI working group.
>
> We will like to have one WG list member from ALTO and one WG list member
> from
>
> CDNI review this draft in depth.  Please send Jan and me an email if you
> are willing
>
> review the draft as part of WGLC.
>
>
>
> In addition, we will like general reviews of the draft from both ALTO and
> CDNI WGs.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
> _______________________________________________
> alto mailing list
> alto@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/alto
>
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Dear Sanjay,

=

Thank you so much for the careful review! We will follow =
the suggestions and take a pass. In particular, we will enumerate a few exa=
mples of error handling as suggested. We will post a new version by Tuesday=
.

Richard

=

On Wed, Fe=
b 19, 2020 at 6:12 PM <sanjay.mishra=3D40verizon.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:











I have review draft-ietf-alto-cdni-re=
quest-routing-alto-09 and don=E2=80=99t have any issues except some minor s=
uggestions and nits.


=C2=A0


Sec 1 Introduction:<=
/span>


1.=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
If by using =E2=80=9Cfunctionali=
ties=E2=80=9D below is meant to reference the two RFC (RFC 7975 & RFC 8=
008), semantically, it may be better to state that the request
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C by name and number.=C2=A0




a.=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
Correspondingly, the request routing interface is broa=
dly divided into two functionalities: (1) CDNI Footprint & Capabilities=
 Advertisement interface (FCI), and (2) CDNI Request Routing Redirection in=
terface (RI).


=C2=
=A0


2.=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
(replace is -> are)=




a.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
A protocol to transport and update such objects=
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3.=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
(delete =E2=80=9Csome=E2=80=9D)<=
u>



b.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
In this way, a uCDN can effectively fetch capab=
ilities of some footprints in which it is interested<=
u>


4.=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
(add =E2=80=9Cas defined=E2=80=
=9D instead of =E2=80=9Cdefined=E2=80=9D in two places in the sentence star=
ting as below)



c.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
Throughout this document, we use the terminolog=
ies for CDNI defined=E2=80=A6


=C2=A0


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=C2=A0


Thanks


Sanjay
=



=C2=A0


From: CDNi [mailto:cdni-bounces@ietf.org]
On Behalf Of Vijay Gurbani

Sent: Monday, February 3, 2020 10:08 AM

To: IETF ALTO <alto@ietf.org>; =
cdni@ietf.org

Subject: [E] [CDNi] WGLC for draft-ietf-alto-cdni-request-routing-al=
to-09


=C2=A0


All: Jan and I will like to start WGLC for 

draft-ietf-cdni-request-routing-alto-09.=C2=A0 The WGLC period will run fro=
m Mon, 

Feb 3 2020 to Wed, Feb 19 2020.



This email is also being cross-posted to the CDNI working group.



We will like to have one WG list member from ALTO and one WG list member fr=
om




CDNI review this draft in depth.=C2=A0 Please send J=
an and me an email if you are willing






review the draft as part of WGLC.






=C2=A0






In addition, we will like general reviews of the dra=
ft from both ALTO and CDNI WGs.






=C2=A0




Thank you.






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All: The WGLC [1] for the ALTO CDNI draft is now over.  The draft received
two reviews [2,3] during the WGLC period.  The authors are requested to
prepare a revision based on the reviews.  The draft can move ahead once the
revision is submitted.

[1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/cdni/gjpYSELvH2SprFSoBCD2QbrlU00/
[2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/cdni/-gaZKrUBnC43RyMOeaf_MtdiLa8/
[3] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/cdni/keqftt-bvNZQZxHQBSADlJVkIg8/

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Dear Vijay, all,

The authors have taken a pass of the document to address the reviews. Links
to the new version are below. We believe that we have addressed all of the
items in the two review sets by Danny and Sanjay.

Thank you so much!

Richard,

=====
The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-alto-cdni-request-routing-alto/

There are also htmlized versions available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-alto-cdni-request-routing-alto-10
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-alto-cdni-request-routing-alto-10

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-alto-cdni-request-routing-alto-10

On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 11:14 AM Vijay Gurbani 
wrote:

> All: The WGLC [1] for the ALTO CDNI draft is now over.  The draft received
> two reviews [2,3] during the WGLC period.  The authors are requested to
> prepare a revision based on the reviews.  The draft can move ahead once the
> revision is submitted.
>
> [1]
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/cdni/gjpYSELvH2SprFSoBCD2QbrlU00/
> [2]
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/cdni/-gaZKrUBnC43RyMOeaf_MtdiLa8/
> [3]
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/cdni/keqftt-bvNZQZxHQBSADlJVkIg8/
>
> Thanks,
>
> - vijay
>

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Dear Vijay, all,

The a=
uthors have taken a pass of the document to address the reviews. Links to t=
he new version are below. We believe that we have addressed all of the item=
s in the two review sets by Danny and Sanjay.=C2=A0

Thank you so much!

Richard,

=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 11:14 AM Vijay Gurbani <vijay.gurbani@gmail.com> wrote:
All: The=
 WGLC [1] for the ALTO CDNI draft is now over.=C2=A0 The draft received two=
 reviews [2,3] during the WGLC period.=C2=A0 The authors are requested to p=
repare a revision based on the reviews.=C2=A0 The draft can move ahead once=
 the revision is submitted.


Thanks,

<=
div>- vijay


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