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[109.9.74.229]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w11-v6sm22178593wrn.65.2018.10.11.03.53.43 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 11 Oct 2018 03:53:44 -0700 (PDT) To: cellar@ietf.org From: Steve Lhomme Message-ID: <543a037c-a741-2d77-fa52-6df522bb7360@matroska.org> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:53:41 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [Cellar] Misc Encryption updates X-BeenThere: cellar@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 10:53:50 -0000 Following my work on the AV1 encryption I refreshed the encryption element text/formatting, added some extra text. Some new pull requests in case anyone has issues with the added texts: - ContentEncryption was supposed to be absent in some cases but we can't require that. We can require that it's ignored https://github.com/Matroska-Org/matroska-specification/pull/279 - the frame encryption wasn't clear what part of a Block it would encrypt/compress. It should be each frame, excluding the lacing parts https://github.com/Matroska-Org/matroska-specification/pull/280 - make ContentEncAlgo mandatory, it has a default value of no encryption anyway https://github.com/Matroska-Org/matroska-specification/pull/281 I also added the 2 elements found in WebM that were not in Matroska: https://github.com/Matroska-Org/matroska-specification/pull/282 Too bad AESSettingsCipherMode doesn't have a default value, otherwise picking the AES encryption would automatically pick the only mode currently allowed in WebM. 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[109.9.74.229]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x8-v6sm47075232wrd.54.2018.10.11.04.00.25 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 11 Oct 2018 04:00:25 -0700 (PDT) To: cellar@ietf.org From: Steve Lhomme Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 13:00:22 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [Cellar] WebM missing elements X-BeenThere: cellar@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 11:00:48 -0000 WebM is missing some elements from Matroska. But a regular Matroska parser may rely on mandatory + default values being set or rightfully omited. We don't want this behaviour difference and since we always pick default values in mandatory elements so that they work for all files they are not written, it's fair to assume they can be handled as default values even if not supported by WebM. This is a pull request to handle this loophole: https://github.com/Matroska-Org/matroska-specification/pull/278 From nobody Thu Oct 11 05:09:40 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cellar@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cellar@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5206130E1B for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:09:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TNcy1kD4f4JT for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 17.mo7.mail-out.ovh.net (17.mo7.mail-out.ovh.net [188.165.35.227]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 12541130DD1 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 05:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from player787.ha.ovh.net (unknown [10.109.160.244]) by mo7.mail-out.ovh.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE730DCDD4 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 14:09:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.2.120] (p5DDB4865.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.219.72.101]) (Authenticated sender: jerome@mediaarea.net) by player787.ha.ovh.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7BE006000BB for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2018 14:09:33 +0200 (CEST) To: cellar@ietf.org References: <96b8ef11-ab4d-99fd-b260-ebec6b563a6c@mediaarea.net> <20180113111734.GB17711@michaelspb> <9a28a229-0016-a7cb-e656-7ffcd0e690bc@mediaarea.net> <20180113120933.GC17711@michaelspb> From: Jerome Martinez Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 14:09:34 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180113120933.GC17711@michaelspb> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 4430697609120452753 X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: 0 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedtkedrudekgdeghecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfqggfjpdevjffgvefmvefgnecuuegrihhlohhuthemucehtddtnecu Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Cellar] [FFV1] Adding Bayer support X-BeenThere: cellar@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:09:39 -0000 On 13/01/2018 13:09, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > about samples, please include both very sharp and more blurry (at pixel level) > samples. These 2 should behave quite different compression wise with sparse > sampling of colors. Also high noise and low noise content should be included > high ISO low light would produce very noisy content, low ISO bright light > should produce low noise. About samples, I have some difficulties to get enough different samples (especially compatible with FFmpeg, some files I got are not readable as is by FFmpeg so effort would be more important than just updating FFmpeg on FFV1 side), and actually I now think that we should not change FFV1 v3 (and below) much compared to other color_space (study of optimization would be done for v4, for both RGB and Bayer, in order to find common optimizations), so I changed of strategy and do very minimal additions to the bitstream, just what is needed for adding the green difference (replacing Alpha) to current RGB code. I also have a running version of FFmpeg with FFV1 Bayer encoding and decoding. Link to the updated PR + FFmpeg code: https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFV1/pull/100#issuecomment-427775814 Jérôme From nobody Thu Oct 18 04:00:48 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cellar@ietf.org Delivered-To: cellar@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8DB12D4E9; Thu, 18 Oct 2018 04:00:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: cellar@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.87.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: cellar@ietf.org Message-ID: <153986044546.22117.7914953861425140569@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 04:00:45 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Cellar] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cellar-ffv1-06.txt X-BeenThere: cellar@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 11:00:46 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission WG of the IETF. Title : FFV1 Video Coding Format Version 0, 1, and 3 Authors : Michael Niedermayer Dave Rice Jerome Martinez Filename : draft-ietf-cellar-ffv1-06.txt Pages : 43 Date : 2018-10-18 Abstract: This document defines FFV1, a lossless intra-frame video encoding format. FFV1 is designed to efficiently compress video data in a variety of pixel formats. Compared to uncompressed video, FFV1 offers storage compression, frame fixity, and self-description, which makes FFV1 useful as a preservation or intermediate video format. 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Thu Oct 18 04:01:09 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cellar@ietf.org Delivered-To: cellar@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09BC8130E74; Thu, 18 Oct 2018 04:00:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: cellar@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.87.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: cellar@ietf.org Message-ID: <153986044997.22290.17788473299532556057@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 04:00:50 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Cellar] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cellar-ffv1-v4-03.txt X-BeenThere: cellar@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 11:00:56 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission WG of the IETF. Title : FFV1 Video Coding Format Version 4 Authors : Michael Niedermayer Dave Rice Jerome Martinez Filename : draft-ietf-cellar-ffv1-v4-03.txt Pages : 42 Date : 2018-10-18 Abstract: This document defines FFV1, a lossless intra-frame video encoding format. FFV1 is designed to efficiently compress video data in a variety of pixel formats. Compared to uncompressed video, FFV1 offers storage compression, frame fixity, and self-description, which makes FFV1 useful as a preservation or intermediate video format. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cellar-ffv1-v4/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cellar-ffv1-v4-03 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-cellar-ffv1-v4-03 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-cellar-ffv1-v4-03 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sat Oct 20 08:58:46 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cellar@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cellar@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED9212D4EB for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2018 08:58:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=bunkus.org Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Tc0PXeUxih7N for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2018 08:58:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adara.bunkus.org (adara.bunkus.org [144.76.6.84]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A307A128D68 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2018 08:58:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bunkus.org; s=mail2018100901; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:Subject:To:From; bh=1OfSDgFvwL51JAIia4x0+uDGJLS1M8uoRFS9L98jA0I=; b=eU5WXj2RV9Pjp091ovNShYov/7357m4GRl1FlClBJg1zpiOU/NEMkeLtLomrzwW9e0BQhVaBD69mi1IxYb1+l+LqiwedNV/WQtsL8OZLH+G4/mQYw4gWV/wHSO4ie6f0200FZy2kWrB+zc7NicwbuO3xbA4vbvZ2kcc1FALzxLg=; Received: from liselle.bunkus.org ([2a01:4f8:190:8147::105:1]:37966) by adara.bunkus.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1gDte4-0006Bm-0g; Sat, 20 Oct 2018 17:58:32 +0200 Received: from sweet-chili.local (unknown [192.168.191.4]) by liselle.bunkus.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B596A65401A3; Sat, 20 Oct 2018 17:58:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from sweet-chili (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sweet-chili.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE5004B12FCE; Sat, 20 Oct 2018 17:58:30 +0200 (CEST) User-agent: mu4e 1.0; emacs 26.1 From: Moritz Bunkus To: help Questions , Cellar list Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 17:58:30 +0200 Message-ID: <87r2gkd2zd.fsf@bunkus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: [Cellar] MKVToolNix v28.0.0 released X-BeenThere: cellar@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 15:58:45 -0000 Hey, here is MKVToolNix v28.0.0: the first release to support AV1 in its finalized form. mkvmerge can read it from Matroska/WebM, MP4, IVF container files and from raw OBU streams. mkvextract will extract it to IVF files. Apart from that a couple of bugs were fixed and usabitliy enhancements made. Here are the usual links: =E2=80=A6to the source code: https://mkvtoolnix.download/source.html =E2=80=A6to the binaries: https://mkvtoolnix.download/downloads.html The Windows and macOS binaries as well as the Linux AppImage are available already. The other Linux binaries are still being built and will be available of the course of the next couple of hours. Here are the NEWS since the previous release: ------------------------------------------------------------ # Version 28.0.0 "Voice In My Head" 2018-10-20 ## New features and enhancements * mkvmerge: AV1 parser: updated the code for the finalized AV1 bitstream specification. Part of the implementation of #2261. * mkvmerge: AV1 packetizer: updated the code for the finalized AV1-in-Matro= ska & WebM mapping specification. Part of the implementation of #2261. * mkvmerge: AV1 support: the `--engage enable_av1` option has been removed again. Part of the implementation of #2261. * mkvmerge: MP4 reader: added support for AV1. Part of the implementation of #2261. * mkvmerge: DTS: implemented dialog normalization gain removal for extension substreams. Implements #2377. * mkvmerge, mkvextract: simple text subtitles: added a workaround for simple text subtitle tracks that don't contain a duration. Implements #2397. * mkvextract: added support for extracting AV1 to IVF. Part of the implementation of #2261. * mkvextract: IVF extractor (AV1, VP8, VP9): precise values will be used for the frame rate numerator & denominator header fields for certain well-kno= wn values of the track's default duration. * mkvmerge: VP9: mkvmerge will now create codec private data according to t= he VP9 codec mapping described in the WebM specifications. Implements #2379. * MKVToolNix GUI: automatic scaling for high DPI displays is activated if t= he GUI is compiled with Qt =E2=89=A5 5.6.0. Fixes #1996 and #2383. * MKVToolNix GUI: added a menu item ("Help" =E2=86=92 "System information")= for displaying information about the system MKVToolNix is running on in order= to make debugging easier. * MKVToolNix GUI: multiplexer, header editor: the user can enter a list of predefined track names in the preferences. She can later select from them= in "track name" combo box. Implements #2230. ## Bug fixes * mkvmerge: JSON identification: fixed a bug when removing invalid UTF-8 da= ta from strings before they're output as JSON. Fixes #2398. * mkvmerge: MP4/QuickTime reader: fixed handling of PCM audio with FourCC `in24`. Fixes #2391. * mkvmerge: MPEG transport stream reader, teletext subtitles: the decision whether or not to keep frames around in order to potentially merge them w= ith the following frame is made sooner. That avoids problems if there are lar= ge gaps between teletext subtitle frames which could lead to frames being interleaved too late. Fixes #2393. * mkvextract: IVF extractor (AV1, VP8, VP8): the frame rate header fields weren't clamped to 16 bits properly causing wrong frame rates to be writt= en in certain situations. * mkvpropedit, MKVToolNix GUI's header editor: fixed file corruption when a one-byte space must be covered with a new EBML void element but all surrounding elements have a "size length" field that's eight bytes long already. Fixes #2406. ------------------------------------------------------------ Have fun :) mosu From nobody Tue Oct 23 12:43:50 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cellar@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cellar@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A0E13100D for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 12:43:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=bunkus.org Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VGqicww7m4nM for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 12:43:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adara.bunkus.org (adara.bunkus.org [144.76.6.84]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D07D130FF0 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 12:43:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bunkus.org; s=mail2018100901; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:Subject:To:From; bh=edOpshA8EOF0bRBhx7d87WrTK2pR2gk+bGK2RD9skwk=; b=CF0pXUDyLqB59u8XxE6ocihYHwgm3Hg8sL/maSlE7JGU44U00fyNQrigC9mf+q7fS9lzl9jV1czBlhSuxv57jE41lSRLjKZUY1NAgSmyIQvrfNHk0wMi+0TTw3xqPhxYSu7SmwdgKbZAfOCBl6KQ2XolXi9bzerAL4MELh8J7uU=; Received: from liselle.bunkus.org ([2a01:4f8:190:8147::105:1]:53480) by adara.bunkus.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1gF2aR-0000JP-3A; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 21:43:32 +0200 Received: from sweet-chili.local (unknown [192.168.191.4]) by liselle.bunkus.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1CC5654019A; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 21:43:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from sweet-chili (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sweet-chili.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A3B4B526CC; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 21:43:30 +0200 (CEST) User-agent: mu4e 1.0; emacs 26.1 From: Moritz Bunkus To: help Questions , Cellar list Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 21:43:30 +0200 Message-ID: <87sh0wla8t.fsf@bunkus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: [Cellar] MKVToolNix v28.1.0 released X-BeenThere: cellar@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 19:43:48 -0000 Hey, due to an unfortunate bug in the AV1 sequence header parser in release 28.0.0, here=E2=80=99s a small bug fix update: MKVToolNix v28.1.0. Here are the usual links: =E2=80=A6to the source code: https://mkvtoolnix.download/source.html =E2=80=A6to the binaries: https://mkvtoolnix.download/downloads.html The Windows and macOS binaries as well as the Linux AppImage are available already. The other Linux binaries are still being built and will be available of the course of the next couple of hours. Here are the NEWS since the previous release: ------------------------------------------------------------ # Version 28.1.0 "Morning Child" 2018-10-23 ## Bug fixes * mkvmerge: AV1 parser: fixed an error in the sequence header parser if neither the `reduced_still_picture_header` nor the `frame_id_numbers_present_flag` is set. Part of the fix for #2410. * mkvmerge: AV1 parser: when creating the `av1C` structure for the Codec Private element the sequence header OBU wasn't copied completely: its com= mon data (type field & OBU size among others) was missing. Part of the fix for #2410. * mkvmerge: Matroska reader, AV1: mkvmerge will try to re-create the `av1C` data stored in Codec Private when reading AV1 from Matroska or WebM files created by mkvmerge v28.0.0. Part of the fix for #2410. * MKVToolNix GUI: info tool: the tool will no longer stop scanning elements when an EBML Void element is found after the first Cluster element. Fixes #2413. ------------------------------------------------------------ Have fun :) mosu From nobody Thu Oct 25 14:29:29 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cellar@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cellar@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EAC0130DFB for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2018 14:29:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=bunkus.org Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tdGlvivnyiAX for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2018 14:29:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adara.bunkus.org (adara.bunkus.org [144.76.6.84]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5EF88130E02 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2018 14:29:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bunkus.org; s=mail2018100901; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:Subject:To:From; bh=tWMqvFtp6HXYCY8/VICR4LsCFqSh6okIg1CLWGo4B4g=; b=nBE1Ss+flAjFsinVhnjt5BwioykJFB8erJZ9uiK2U5YIvEYpZaycG4j5YEH0sEB4ZOKq2rYRZ7F3VrTXYuvztlI43rSS4gKFaXaA9BSHbDZdyLhQlCpm9uYB8KIVYi04j+Ll8gYKMS1OfLGVRbR4kCnqg37ivkk1f3ag1lMqlvs=; Received: from liselle.bunkus.org ([2a01:4f8:190:8147::105:1]:48850) by adara.bunkus.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1gFnBy-000724-02; Thu, 25 Oct 2018 23:29:22 +0200 Received: from sweet-chili.local (unknown [192.168.191.4]) by liselle.bunkus.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A9BA654019D; Thu, 25 Oct 2018 23:29:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from sweet-chili (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sweet-chili.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E1E4BCEB77; Thu, 25 Oct 2018 23:29:14 +0200 (CEST) User-agent: mu4e 1.0; emacs 26.1 From: Moritz Bunkus To: help Questions , Cellar list Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 23:29:14 +0200 Message-ID: <87va5pn2ad.fsf@bunkus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: [Cellar] MKVToolNix v28.2.0 released X-BeenThere: cellar@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 21:29:27 -0000 Hey, unfortunately I have to release a third time within a week: this time due to a use-after-free bug in all programs that make up the MKVToolNix package. This type of vulnerability allows arbitrary code execution using specially crafted Matroska files. It was introduced in v5.5.0 and affects all following releases up to and including the latest one, v28.1.0. Hence today's bug fix release. Here are the usual links: =E2=80=A6to the source code: https://mkvtoolnix.download/source.html =E2=80=A6to the binaries: https://mkvtoolnix.download/downloads.html The Windows and macOS binaries as well as the Linux AppImage are available already. The other Linux binaries are still being built and will be available of the course of the next couple of hours. Here are the NEWS since the previous release: ------------------------------------------------------------ # Version 28.2.0 "The Awakening" 2018-10-25 ## Bug fixes * mkvmerge, mkvinfo, mkvextract, mkvpropedit, MKVToolNix GUI's info tool & chapter editor: fixed a case of memory being accessed after it had been freed earlier. This can be triggered by specially crafted Matroska files = and lead to arbitrary code execution. The vulnerability was reported as Cisco TALOS 2018-0694 on 2018-10-25. ------------------------------------------------------------ Have fun :) mosu From nobody Tue Oct 30 05:16:05 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cellar@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cellar@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A680128D68 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 05:16:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=bunkus.org Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pPJDmWi9Wq3z for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 05:16:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adara.bunkus.org (adara.bunkus.org [144.76.6.84]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7ABA9126CC7 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 05:16:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bunkus.org; s=mail2018100901; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:Subject:To:From; bh=SbbjYMzoZUNYveii22cK8nBjcqb0GUqLQSvc2gO3+kk=; b=ki3/VaHEnC63fAaQbNZLDpKY4yeA53i8Y6kSjH+8dvFaSo9RAOAu3rPZRbmtHmnd6Ck+GHR1pIXDdjWstqpk1DGCfYOEGoEPiHjZFBUGnRx70SrCJu131kdtWX0jLE6e3KCe9EEAxBTs3U/U2UlWAD7FgmYNUrSw2hju1XHlcYQ=; Received: from liselle.bunkus.org ([2a01:4f8:190:8147::105:1]:41948) by adara.bunkus.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1gHSw9-0001XJ-24 for cellar@ietf.org; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 13:15:57 +0100 Received: from sweet-chili.local (unknown [192.168.191.4]) by liselle.bunkus.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A2036541593 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 13:15:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from sweet-chili (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sweet-chili.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0CF44C1E560 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 13:15:50 +0100 (CET) User-agent: mu4e 1.0; emacs 26.1 From: Moritz Bunkus To: Cellar list Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 13:15:50 +0100 Message-ID: <87h8h3mxzd.fsf@bunkus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Archived-At: Subject: [Cellar] today's meeting X-BeenThere: cellar@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 12:16:04 -0000 Hey, if I remember correctly, a meeting's scheduled for today even though no agenda has been posted yet. I just meant to say that I won't be able to attend tonight. PS: reminder for us Europeans, the meeting is one hour earlier than previous meetings (20:00 UTC is 21:00 CET). Kind regards, mosu From nobody Tue Oct 30 06:57:10 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cellar@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cellar@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF9D130E13 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 06:56:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.12 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.12 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6hBizt4QAjKg for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 06:56:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server172-3.web-hosting.com (server172-3.web-hosting.com [68.65.122.111]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DDC30130E10 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 06:56:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [146.96.19.240] (port=4499 helo=[10.10.201.39]) by server172.web-hosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1gHUVk-0020zq-7u; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 09:56:51 -0400 From: Dave Rice Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_D90E1909-4968-4066-9FDD-A93636432979" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 09:56:47 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87h8h3mxzd.fsf@bunkus.org> Cc: Cellar list To: Moritz Bunkus References: <87h8h3mxzd.fsf@bunkus.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server172.web-hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dericed.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: server172.web-hosting.com: authenticated_id: dave@dericed.com X-Authenticated-Sender: server172.web-hosting.com: dave@dericed.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-From-Rewrite: unmodified, already matched Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Cellar] today's meeting X-BeenThere: cellar@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 13:57:05 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_D90E1909-4968-4066-9FDD-A93636432979 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi all, > On Oct 30, 2018, at 8:15 AM, Moritz Bunkus = wrote: >=20 > Hey, >=20 > if I remember correctly, a meeting's scheduled for today even though = no > agenda has been posted yet. I just meant to say that I won't be able = to > attend tonight. >=20 > PS: reminder for us Europeans, the meeting is one hour earlier than = previous > meetings (20:00 UTC is 21:00 CET). I could make the call (in EDT it=E2=80=99s 16:00). For some comments on the agenda: - EBML This is in last call status. Currently the issue tracker for EBML = (https://github.com/Matroska-Org/ebml-specification/issues = ) is only a = short wishlist for future features. There are no open pull requests, not = much to do here at the moment unless more comments or reviews come in. - FFV1 IIUC this is assigned to 3 working groups for review. I updated this = document recently as there were some modifications based on the last = discussion. More contextual information, labels on pseudocode, and = clarifications. I also renamed some sectional headers. There has been active work on supporting bayer formats as a future = feature and a work in progress on storing metadata in FFV1. The only = pull request open that is not concerning a future feature is = https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFV1/pull/111 = , which needs some resolution. The issue tracker for FFV1 is also only future features except for = https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFV1/issues/118 = . This is based on a to do = note from within a very early of the FFV1 document. - Matroska Obviously there is a lot to do. We have 37 open issues and 16 open pull = requests. Lots of open work on codec mappings, chapters, frame metadata, = etc. Best Regards, Dave Rice= --Apple-Mail=_D90E1909-4968-4066-9FDD-A93636432979 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hi all,

On Oct 30, 2018, at 8:15 AM, = Moritz Bunkus <moritz=3D40bunkus.org@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

Hey,

if I remember correctly, a = meeting's scheduled for today even though no
agenda has = been posted yet. I just meant to say that I won't be able to
attend tonight.

PS: reminder for = us Europeans, the meeting is one hour earlier than previous
meetings (20:00 UTC is 21:00 CET).

I could make the call (in EDT it=E2=80=99s 16:00).

For some comments on the = agenda:

- = EBML
This is in last call status. Currently the = issue tracker for EBML (https://github.com/Matroska-Org/ebml-specification/issues) = is only a short wishlist for future features. There are no open pull = requests, not much to do here at the moment unless more comments or = reviews come in.

- FFV1
IIUC this is assigned to 3 = working groups for review. I updated this document recently as there = were some modifications based on the last discussion. More contextual = information, labels on pseudocode, and clarifications. I also renamed = some sectional headers.

There has been active work on supporting bayer formats as a = future feature and a work in progress on storing metadata in FFV1. The = only pull request open that is not concerning a future feature = is https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFV1/pull/111, which needs some = resolution.

The = issue tracker for FFV1 is also only future features except for https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFV1/issues/118. This is based = on a to do note from within a very early of the FFV1 document.

- Matroska
Obviously there is a lot to do. We have 37 open issues and 16 = open pull requests. Lots of open work on codec mappings, chapters, frame = metadata, etc.

Best Regards,
Dave = Rice
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There's nothing pend= ing for this version. =46or Matroska we're still many months of. Although the main document is = stable I think each element should have a better definition than the shor= t texts we have now. On 30 Oct 2018 at 14:57 +0100, Dave Rice , wrote: > Hi all, > > > On Oct 30, 2018, at 8:15 AM, Moritz Bunkus wrote: > > > > Hey, > > > > if I remember correctly, a meeting's scheduled for today even though = no > > agenda has been posted yet. I just meant to say that I won't be able = to > > attend tonight. > > > > PS: reminder for us Europeans, the meeting is one hour earlier than p= revious > > meetings (20:00 UTC is 21:00 CET). > > I could make the call (in EDT it=E2=80=99s 16:00). > > =46or some comments on the agenda: > > - EBML > This is in last call status. Currently the issue tracker for EBML (http= s://github.com/Matroska-Org/ebml-specification/issues) is only a short wi= shlist for future features. There are no open pull requests, not much to = do here at the moment unless more comments or reviews come in. > > - =46=46V1 > IIUC this is assigned to 3 working groups for review. I updated this do= cument recently as there were some modifications based on the last discus= sion. More contextual information, labels on pseudocode, and clarificatio= ns. I also renamed some sectional headers. > > There has been active work on supporting bayer formats as a future feat= ure and a work in progress on storing metadata in =46=46V1. The only pull= request open that is not concerning a future feature is=C2=A0https://git= hub.com/=46=46mpeg/=46=46V1/pull/111, which needs some resolution. > > The issue tracker for =46=46V1 is also only future features except for=C2= =A0https://github.com/=46=46mpeg/=46=46V1/issues/118. This is based on a = to do note from within a very early of the =46=46V1 document. > > - Matroska > Obviously there is a lot to do. We have 37 open issues and 16 open pull= requests. Lots of open work on codec mappings, chapters, frame metadata,= etc. > > Best Regards, > Dave Rice > =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F > Cellar mailing list > Cellar=40ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cellar --5bd87ba1_507ed7ab_2ffe Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Hi
I don=E2=80=99t think I can make it for the call but it would be nice if = we could push EBML to the next standardization step. There's nothing pend= ing for this version.
=46or Matroska we're still many months of. Although the main document is = stable I think each element should have a better definition than the shor= t texts we have now.
On 30 Oct 2018 at 14:57 +0100, Dave= Rice <dave=40dericed.com>, wrote:
Hi all,

On Oct 30, 2018, at 8:15 AM, Moritz Bunkus <mo= ritz=3D40bunkus.org=40dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

Hey,

if I remember correctly, a meeting's scheduled for today even though no agenda has been posted yet. I just meant to say that I won't be able to attend tonight.

PS: reminder for us Europeans, the meeting is one hour earlier than previ= ous
meetings (20:00 UTC is 21:00 CET).

I could make the call (in EDT it=E2=80=99s 16:00).

=46or some comments on the agenda:

- EBML
This is in last call status. Currently the issue trac= ker for EBML (https://github.com/Matroska-Org/ebml-specif= ication/issues) is only a short wishlist for future features. There a= re no open pull requests, not much to do here at the moment unless more c= omments or reviews come in.

- =46=46V1
IIUC this is assigned to 3 working groups for review.= I updated this document recently as there were some modifications based = on the last discussion. More contextual information, labels on pseudocode= , and clarifications. I also renamed some sectional headers.

There has been active work on supporting bayer format= s as a future feature and a work in progress on storing metadata in =46=46= V1. The only pull request open that is not concerning a future feature is= &=23160;https://github.com/=46=46mpeg/=46=46V1/pull/111, which = needs some resolution.

The issue tracker for =46=46V1 is also only future fe= atures except for&=23160;https://github.com/=46=46mpeg/=46=46V1/is= sues/118. This is based on a to do note from within a very early of t= he =46=46V1 document.

- Matroska
Obviously there is a lot to do. We have 37 open issue= s and 16 open pull requests. Lots of open work on codec mappings, chapter= s, frame metadata, etc.

Best Regards,
Dave Rice
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Am 30.10.2018 um 16:41 schrieb Steve Lhomme: > Hi > I don’t think I can make it for the call but it would be nice if we > could push EBML to the next standardization step. There's nothing > pending for this version. > For Matroska we're still many months of. Although the main document is > stable I think each element should have a better definition than the > short texts we have now. > On 30 Oct 2018 at 14:57 +0100, Dave Rice , wrote: >> Hi all, >> >>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 8:15 AM, Moritz Bunkus >>> >> > wrote: >>> >>> Hey, >>> >>> if I remember correctly, a meeting's scheduled for today even though no >>> agenda has been posted yet. I just meant to say that I won't be able to >>> attend tonight. >>> >>> PS: reminder for us Europeans, the meeting is one hour earlier than >>> previous >>> meetings (20:00 UTC is 21:00 CET). >> >> I could make the call (in EDT it’s 16:00). >> >> For some comments on the agenda: >> >> - EBML >> This is in last call status. Currently the issue tracker for EBML >> (https://github.com/Matroska-Org/ebml-specification/issues) is only a >> short wishlist for future features. There are no open pull requests, >> not much to do here at the moment unless more comments or reviews >> come in. >> >> - FFV1 >> IIUC this is assigned to 3 working groups for review. I updated this >> document recently as there were some modifications based on the last >> discussion. More contextual information, labels on pseudocode, and >> clarifications. I also renamed some sectional headers. >> >> There has been active work on supporting bayer formats as a future >> feature and a work in progress on storing metadata in FFV1. The only >> pull request open that is not concerning a future feature is >> https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFV1/pull/111, which needs some resolution. >> >> The issue tracker for FFV1 is also only future features except for >> https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFV1/issues/118. This is based on a to do >> note from within a very early of the FFV1 document. >> >> - Matroska >> Obviously there is a lot to do. We have 37 open issues and 16 open >> pull requests. Lots of open work on codec mappings, chapters, frame >> metadata, etc. >> >> Best Regards, >> Dave Rice >> _______________________________________________ >> Cellar mailing list >> Cellar@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cellar > > > _______________________________________________ > Cellar mailing list > Cellar@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cellar --------------282F537660DE3D46CF08B516 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hey,

is the meeting canceled?


Am 30.10.2018 um 16:41 schrieb Steve Lhomme:
Hi
I don’t think I can make it for the call but it would be nice if we could push EBML to the next standardization step. There's nothing pending for this version.
For Matroska we're still many months of. Although the main document is stable I think each element should have a better definition than the short texts we have now.
On 30 Oct 2018 at 14:57 +0100, Dave Rice <dave@dericed.com>, wrote:
Hi all,

On Oct 30, 2018, at 8:15 AM, Moritz Bunkus <moritz=40bunkus.org@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

Hey,

if I remember correctly, a meeting's scheduled for today even though no
agenda has been posted yet. I just meant to say that I won't be able to
attend tonight.

PS: reminder for us Europeans, the meeting is one hour earlier than previous
meetings (20:00 UTC is 21:00 CET).

I could make the call (in EDT it’s 16:00).

For some comments on the agenda:

- EBML
This is in last call status. Currently the issue tracker for EBML (https://github.com/Matroska-Org/ebml-specification/issues) is only a short wishlist for future features. There are no open pull requests, not much to do here at the moment unless more comments or reviews come in.

- FFV1
IIUC this is assigned to 3 working groups for review. I updated this document recently as there were some modifications based on the last discussion. More contextual information, labels on pseudocode, and clarifications. I also renamed some sectional headers.

There has been active work on supporting bayer formats as a future feature and a work in progress on storing metadata in FFV1. The only pull request open that is not concerning a future feature is https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFV1/pull/111, which needs some resolution.

The issue tracker for FFV1 is also only future features except for https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFV1/issues/118. This is based on a to do note from within a very early of the FFV1 document.

- Matroska
Obviously there is a lot to do. We have 37 open issues and 16 open pull requests. Lots of open work on codec mappings, chapters, frame metadata, etc.

Best Regards,
Dave Rice
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We haven=E2=80=99t heard from either chair = on this thread. Dave > On Oct 30, 2018, at 4:02 PM, hubblec4 wrote: >=20 > Hey, >=20 > is the meeting canceled? >=20 > Am 30.10.2018 um 16:41 schrieb Steve Lhomme: >> Hi >> I don=E2=80=99t think I can make it for the call but it would be nice = if we could push EBML to the next standardization step. There's nothing = pending for this version. >> For Matroska we're still many months of. Although the main document = is stable I think each element should have a better definition than the = short texts we have now. >> On 30 Oct 2018 at 14:57 +0100, Dave Rice = , wrote: >>> Hi all, >>>=20 >>>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 8:15 AM, Moritz Bunkus = > wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Hey, >>>>=20 >>>> if I remember correctly, a meeting's scheduled for today even = though no >>>> agenda has been posted yet. I just meant to say that I won't be = able to >>>> attend tonight. >>>>=20 >>>> PS: reminder for us Europeans, the meeting is one hour earlier than = previous >>>> meetings (20:00 UTC is 21:00 CET). >>>=20 >>> I could make the call (in EDT it=E2=80=99s 16:00). >>>=20 >>> For some comments on the agenda: >>>=20 >>> - EBML >>> This is in last call status. Currently the issue tracker for EBML = (https://github.com/Matroska-Org/ebml-specification/issues = ) is only a = short wishlist for future features. There are no open pull requests, not = much to do here at the moment unless more comments or reviews come in. >>>=20 >>> - FFV1 >>> IIUC this is assigned to 3 working groups for review. I updated this = document recently as there were some modifications based on the last = discussion. More contextual information, labels on pseudocode, and = clarifications. I also renamed some sectional headers. >>>=20 >>> There has been active work on supporting bayer formats as a future = feature and a work in progress on storing metadata in FFV1. The only = pull request open that is not concerning a future feature is = https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFV1/pull/111 = , which needs some resolution. >>>=20 >>> The issue tracker for FFV1 is also only future features except for = https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFV1/issues/118 = . This is based on a to do = note from within a very early of the FFV1 document. >>>=20 >>> - Matroska >>> Obviously there is a lot to do. We have 37 open issues and 16 open = pull requests. Lots of open work on codec mappings, chapters, frame = metadata, etc. >>>=20 >>> Best Regards, >>> Dave Rice >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Cellar mailing list >>> Cellar@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cellar = >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Cellar mailing list >> Cellar@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cellar = >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Cellar mailing list > Cellar@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cellar --Apple-Mail=_792C3C8B-44C7-4664-9404-E4BFFBD1B0A4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Is anyone else on the call? We haven=E2=80=99t = heard from either chair on this thread.
Dave
On = Oct 30, 2018, at 4:02 PM, hubblec4 <hubblec4@gmx.ch> wrote:

=20 =20

Hey,

is the meeting canceled?


Am 30.10.2018 um 16:41 schrieb Steve Lhomme:
Hi
I don=E2=80=99t think I can make it for the call but it would be = nice if we could push EBML to the next standardization step. There's nothing pending for this version.
For Matroska we're still many months of. Although the main document is stable I think each element should have a better definition than the short texts we have now.
On 30 Oct 2018 at = 14:57 +0100, Dave Rice <dave@dericed.com>, wrote:
Hi all,

On Oct 30, 2018, at 8:15 AM, Moritz = Bunkus <moritz=3D40bunkus.org@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

Hey,

if I remember correctly, a meeting's scheduled for today even though no
agenda has been posted yet. I just meant to say that I won't be able to
attend tonight.

PS: reminder for us Europeans, the meeting is one hour earlier than previous
meetings (20:00 UTC is 21:00 CET).

I could make the call (in EDT it=E2=80=99s = 16:00).

For some comments on the agenda:

- EBML
This is in last call status. Currently the = issue tracker for EBML (https://github.com/Matroska-Org/ebml-specificatio= n/issues) is only a short wishlist for future features. There are no open pull requests, not much to do here at the moment unless more comments or reviews come in.

- FFV1
IIUC this is assigned to 3 working groups for review. I updated this document recently as there were some modifications based on the last discussion. More contextual information, labels on pseudocode, and clarifications. I also renamed some sectional headers.

There has been active work on supporting bayer formats as a future feature and a work in progress on storing metadata in FFV1. The only pull request open that is not concerning a future feature is https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFV1/pull/111, which needs some resolution.

The issue tracker for FFV1 is also only future features except for https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFV1/issues/118. This is based on a to do note from within a very early of the FFV1 document.

- Matroska
Obviously there is a lot to do. We have 37 = open issues and 16 open pull requests. Lots of open work on codec mappings, chapters, frame metadata, etc.

Best Regards,
Dave Rice
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We haven’t heard from either chair on this > thread. > Dave No, I'm alone. > >> On Oct 30, 2018, at 4:02 PM, hubblec4 > > wrote: >> >> Hey, >> >> is the meeting canceled? >> >> >> Am 30.10.2018 um 16:41 schrieb Steve Lhomme: >>> Hi >>> I don’t think I can make it for the call but it would be nice if we >>> could push EBML to the next standardization step. There's nothing >>> pending for this version. >>> For Matroska we're still many months of. Although the main document >>> is stable I think each element should have a better definition than >>> the short texts we have now. >>> On 30 Oct 2018 at 14:57 +0100, Dave Rice , wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 8:15 AM, Moritz Bunkus >>>>> >>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hey, >>>>> >>>>> if I remember correctly, a meeting's scheduled for today even >>>>> though no >>>>> agenda has been posted yet. I just meant to say that I won't be >>>>> able to >>>>> attend tonight. >>>>> >>>>> PS: reminder for us Europeans, the meeting is one hour earlier >>>>> than previous >>>>> meetings (20:00 UTC is 21:00 CET). >>>> >>>> I could make the call (in EDT it’s 16:00). >>>> >>>> For some comments on the agenda: >>>> >>>> - EBML >>>> This is in last call status. Currently the issue tracker for EBML >>>> (https://github.com/Matroska-Org/ebml-specification/issues) is only >>>> a short wishlist for future features. There are no open pull >>>> requests, not much to do here at the moment unless more comments or >>>> reviews come in. >>>> >>>> - FFV1 >>>> IIUC this is assigned to 3 working groups for review. I updated >>>> this document recently as there were some modifications based on >>>> the last discussion. More contextual information, labels on >>>> pseudocode, and clarifications. I also renamed some sectional headers. >>>> >>>> There has been active work on supporting bayer formats as a future >>>> feature and a work in progress on storing metadata in FFV1. The >>>> only pull request open that is not concerning a future feature is >>>> https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFV1/pull/111, which needs some resolution. >>>> >>>> The issue tracker for FFV1 is also only future features except for >>>> https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFV1/issues/118. This is based on a to do >>>> note from within a very early of the FFV1 document. >>>> >>>> - Matroska >>>> Obviously there is a lot to do. We have 37 open issues and 16 open >>>> pull requests. Lots of open work on codec mappings, chapters, frame >>>> metadata, etc. >>>> >>>> Best Regards, >>>> Dave Rice >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Cellar mailing list >>>> Cellar@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cellar >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Cellar mailing list >>> Cellar@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cellar >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Cellar mailing list >> Cellar@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cellar > --------------98E4586BA6667B96AB574EAA Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Am 30.10.2018 um 21:04 schrieb Dave Rice:
Is anyone else on the call? We haven’t heard from either chair on this thread.
Dave
No, I'm alone.


On Oct 30, 2018, at 4:02 PM, hubblec4 <hubblec4@gmx.ch> wrote:

Hey,

is the meeting canceled?


Am 30.10.2018 um 16:41 schrieb Steve Lhomme:
Hi
I don’t think I can make it for the call but it would be nice if we could push EBML to the next standardization step. There's nothing pending for this version.
For Matroska we're still many months of. Although the main document is stable I think each element should have a better definition than the short texts we have now.
On 30 Oct 2018 at 14:57 +0100, Dave Rice <dave@dericed.com>, wrote:
Hi all,

On Oct 30, 2018, at 8:15 AM, Moritz Bunkus <moritz=40bunkus.org@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

Hey,

if I remember correctly, a meeting's scheduled for today even though no
agenda has been posted yet. I just meant to say that I won't be able to
attend tonight.

PS: reminder for us Europeans, the meeting is one hour earlier than previous
meetings (20:00 UTC is 21:00 CET).

I could make the call (in EDT it’s 16:00).

For some comments on the agenda:

- EBML
This is in last call status. Currently the issue tracker for EBML (https://github.com/Matroska-Org/ebml-specification/issues) is only a short wishlist for future features. There are no open pull requests, not much to do here at the moment unless more comments or reviews come in.

- FFV1
IIUC this is assigned to 3 working groups for review. I updated this document recently as there were some modifications based on the last discussion. More contextual information, labels on pseudocode, and clarifications. I also renamed some sectional headers.

There has been active work on supporting bayer formats as a future feature and a work in progress on storing metadata in FFV1. The only pull request open that is not concerning a future feature is https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFV1/pull/111, which needs some resolution.

The issue tracker for FFV1 is also only future features except for https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFV1/issues/118. This is based on a to do note from within a very early of the FFV1 document.

- Matroska
Obviously there is a lot to do. We have 37 open issues and 16 open pull requests. Lots of open work on codec mappings, chapters, frame metadata, etc.

Best Regards,
Dave Rice
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--------------98E4586BA6667B96AB574EAA-- From nobody Tue Oct 30 13:21:12 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cellar@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cellar@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B231276D0 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 13:21:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.12 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.12 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VVB0IEktOJ6x for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 13:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server172-3.web-hosting.com (server172-3.web-hosting.com [68.65.122.111]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CDAB7124408 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 13:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [146.96.19.240] (port=56596 helo=[10.10.201.39]) by server172.web-hosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1gHaVe-001XHV-UK; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 16:21:09 -0400 From: Dave Rice Message-Id: <7A1C07AE-B9EF-4D5E-9CC3-801ABD47DE46@dericed.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_07CEF674-03F3-4350-94E6-270518B1F05A" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 16:21:05 -0400 In-Reply-To: <92f76565-9a4b-6d6d-2228-129b27c87b33@gmx.ch> Cc: cellar@ietf.org To: hubblec4 References: <87h8h3mxzd.fsf@bunkus.org> <511fe00c-4005-4a2b-93e8-8526391602ff@Spark> <424E611D-AA12-4C24-B709-8E108C943D5C@dericed.com> <92f76565-9a4b-6d6d-2228-129b27c87b33@gmx.ch> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server172.web-hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dericed.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: server172.web-hosting.com: authenticated_id: dave@dericed.com X-Authenticated-Sender: server172.web-hosting.com: dave@dericed.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-From-Rewrite: unmodified, already matched Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Cellar] today's meeting X-BeenThere: cellar@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 20:21:11 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_07CEF674-03F3-4350-94E6-270518B1F05A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Oct 30, 2018, at 4:05 PM, hubblec4 wrote: >=20 >=20 > Am 30.10.2018 um 21:04 schrieb Dave Rice: >> Is anyone else on the call? We haven=E2=80=99t heard from either = chair on this thread. >> Dave > No, I'm alone. T-T I suggest we nudge the chairs for a re-schedule. *cough* Michael, Tim? >>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 4:02 PM, hubblec4 > wrote: >>>=20 >>> Hey, >>>=20 >>> is the meeting canceled? >>>=20 >>> Am 30.10.2018 um 16:41 schrieb Steve Lhomme: >>>> Hi >>>> I don=E2=80=99t think I can make it for the call but it would be = nice if we could push EBML to the next standardization step. There's = nothing pending for this version. >>>> For Matroska we're still many months of. Although the main document = is stable I think each element should have a better definition than the = short texts we have now. >>>> On 30 Oct 2018 at 14:57 +0100, Dave Rice = , wrote: >>>>> Hi all, >>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Oct 30, 2018, at 8:15 AM, Moritz Bunkus = > wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Hey, >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> if I remember correctly, a meeting's scheduled for today even = though no >>>>>> agenda has been posted yet. I just meant to say that I won't be = able to >>>>>> attend tonight. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> PS: reminder for us Europeans, the meeting is one hour earlier = than previous >>>>>> meetings (20:00 UTC is 21:00 CET). >>>>>=20 >>>>> I could make the call (in EDT it=E2=80=99s 16:00). >>>>>=20 >>>>> For some comments on the agenda: >>>>>=20 >>>>> - EBML >>>>> This is in last call status. Currently the issue tracker for EBML = (https://github.com/Matroska-Org/ebml-specification/issues = ) is only a = short wishlist for future features. There are no open pull requests, not = much to do here at the moment unless more comments or reviews come in. >>>>>=20 >>>>> - FFV1 >>>>> IIUC this is assigned to 3 working groups for review. I updated = this document recently as there were some modifications based on the = last discussion. More contextual information, labels on pseudocode, and = clarifications. I also renamed some sectional headers. >>>>>=20 >>>>> There has been active work on supporting bayer formats as a future = feature and a work in progress on storing metadata in FFV1. The only = pull request open that is not concerning a future feature is = https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFV1/pull/111 = , which needs some resolution. >>>>>=20 >>>>> The issue tracker for FFV1 is also only future features except for = https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFV1/issues/118 = . This is based on a to do = note from within a very early of the FFV1 document. >>>>>=20 >>>>> - Matroska >>>>> Obviously there is a lot to do. We have 37 open issues and 16 open = pull requests. Lots of open work on codec mappings, chapters, frame = metadata, etc. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Best Regards, >>>>> Dave Rice >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Cellar mailing list >>>>> Cellar@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cellar = >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Cellar mailing list >>>> Cellar@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cellar = >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Cellar mailing list >>> Cellar@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cellar = >>=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Cellar mailing list > Cellar@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cellar --Apple-Mail=_07CEF674-03F3-4350-94E6-270518B1F05A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
On Oct 30, 2018, at 4:05 PM, hubblec4 <hubblec4@gmx.ch> = wrote:

=20 =20

Am 30.10.2018 um 21:04 schrieb Dave Rice:
Is anyone else on the call? We haven=E2=80=99t = heard from either chair on this thread.
Dave
No, I'm alone.

T-T
I suggest we nudge the chairs for a = re-schedule.
*cough* Michael, Tim?

On Oct 30, 2018, at 4:02 PM, hubblec4 <hubblec4@gmx.ch> wrote:

Hey,

is the meeting canceled?


Am 30.10.2018 um 16:41 schrieb Steve Lhomme:
Hi
I don=E2=80=99t think I can make it for the call but = it would be nice if we could push EBML to the next standardization step. There's nothing pending for this version.
For Matroska we're still many months of. Although the main document is stable I think each element should have a better definition than the short texts we have now.
On 30 Oct = 2018 at 14:57 +0100, Dave Rice <dave@dericed.com>, wrote:
Hi all,

On Oct 30, 2018, at 8:15 AM, Moritz Bunkus <moritz=3D40bunkus.org@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

Hey,

if I remember correctly, a meeting's scheduled for today even though no
agenda has been posted yet. I just meant to say that I won't be able to
attend tonight.

PS: reminder for us Europeans, the meeting is one hour earlier than previous
meetings (20:00 UTC is 21:00 CET).

I could make the call (in EDT it=E2=80= =99s 16:00).

For some comments on the = agenda:

- EBML
This is in last call status. = Currently the issue tracker for EBML (https://github.com/Matroska-Org/ebml-specificatio= n/issues) is only a short wishlist for future features. There are no open pull requests, not much to do here at the moment unless more comments or reviews come in.

- FFV1
IIUC this is assigned to 3 working groups for review. I updated this document recently as there were some modifications based on the last discussion. More contextual information, labels on pseudocode, and clarifications. I also renamed some sectional headers.

There has been active work on supporting bayer formats as a future feature and a work in progress on storing metadata in FFV1. The only pull request open that is not concerning a future feature is https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFV1/pull/111, which needs some resolution.

The issue tracker for FFV1 is also only future features except for https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFV1/issues/118. This is based on a to do note from within a very early of the FFV1 document.

- Matroska
Obviously there is a lot to do. We have 37 open issues and 16 open pull requests. Lots of open work on codec mappings, chapters, frame metadata, etc.

Best Regards,
Dave Rice
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Dave Rice <dave=40dericed.com> wrote:
Is anyone else on the call=3F We haven=E2=80= =99t heard from either chair on this
thread.

Hi, I knew I would be travelling, and Terri was going to take on chairing=
this meeting. I'm sorry that it didn't work well.

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--5bd9e3b6_327b23c6_3365-- From nobody Wed Oct 31 13:47:14 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cellar@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cellar@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C30F130DC8 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 13:47:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.35 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.35 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LsgohwUrcBSZ for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 13:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA8C8130D7A for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 13:47:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.109] ([93.243.39.244]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LpsmR-1ffIrL0S0d-00finw for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 21:47:08 +0100 Received: from [192.168.2.109] ([93.243.39.244]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LpsmR-1ffIrL0S0d-00finw for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 21:47:08 +0100 To: cellar@ietf.org Cc: cellar@ietf.org References: <87h8h3mxzd.fsf@bunkus.org> <511fe00c-4005-4a2b-93e8-8526391602ff@Spark> <424E611D-AA12-4C24-B709-8E108C943D5C@dericed.com> <23983.1540973398@dooku.sandelman.ca> From: hubblec4 Message-ID: <9487fd6d-3f77-a2a6-945d-de08f99cf177@gmx.ch> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 21:47:01 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:gOFRgs92ITUQD4Fy2fOVtkpgv9jAElvd8lc83AtXt8BJtYbVDz8 pptHSjsJutSzCuYK90vxO/SaqzsS3H5oSdLiXB7RJFoqpEOBuw2jK1gjL5ds9W0Waz/IElV mEhIxgOStSh12hAURzrmW3aOZCtAJCdvuGbnRHdCaJNaKkrETIzqxpXqsg9AzZBZYR5/tnW nddcWq8+HyFVezzlBAEVw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:lF7/J/vW0D0=:YA/LTsdHANXzqLOj7rRdW+ Tk6qvZeRU4+HFLXwqPdUqTisBXWhXggScCpDtvCUwY16L9ZX2alPF8qdlOxHrocMASij4hB9S 5rYMcEVDy2j2VEgmB8CVNAW4/jVlN2SaGnqcYia7Xg62fhLLV9uTm5ie+Rcn0dhRfLTRVgi5y vXvOsTbm4y3Hbp1HpSN0W1cARfKKZzQ8PolK3R2ghvSl3NXm2syCnpoKJOdeS7VppttNKdDbe k7sqKpbjoAlRNE/dlShVMcYEV+4liVGz186598wl55wOoFn1PxinPg2gWpYt9TUG1orvzie/5 rZ8nDKz5gCY+IztDOgON7PUmLCiA6voRC+SC7/pbRc8NdBwPt4gbKH3fiaSJXLogyQL4/v9lv xBlffAfqmIdX8CijeLGOe7jsgd0T3KBUMaiQqZk2SddbKQfqwpzPsWprxd33NNsz/xNUpVqu2 DLgsQBBOIdXdOLUgeNC6md/N3vitHeCjXCzUanrHfkhHQMPZQ6jREm1msSrz25DtlXM9Jrw9w Ggbo2qOSU+FhnTl3jtFfT+rbMV37UcsIFF/AtTd2RioYplX195/iKPBFP1IIFWnH3ks+4mC/Y m08w9GpjF9tGyyCmcM8JlZZGFRbUfPzRzvzFmBOcrZROBgzESQMJG4HqWhAgkfIJbYXraml2a Tu7CvS0RzHPUwU7D2PYhzkkPnyRYd3Vjv8+uCa0QnjK1erR9ZX08t1SSU2ZMzG3ajmk6DCMae OyXor90nxQWd11/Q3iS9eSDQpCDNYEj67YQeclsuvzqD4ne5laARmxWidpJ477zem0E8q3AAE 88KAfThJ1ODsDwd8MSylYxfZ5SS6qPsvu3XMOEzl0sUARjJn8s= Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Cellar] today's meeting X-BeenThere: cellar@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 20:47:13 -0000 Am 31.10.2018 um 18:17 schrieb Steve Lhomme: > If we reach next week works best for me (ie not this week) > On 31 Oct 2018 at 09:10 +0100, Michael Richardson > , wrote: >> >> Dave Rice wrote: >>> Is anyone else on the call? We haven’t heard from either chair on this >>> thread. >> >> Hi, I knew I would be travelling, and Terri was going to take on chairing >> this meeting. I'm sorry that it didn't work well. >> >> -- >> Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works >> -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Cellar mailing list >> Cellar@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cellar From nobody Wed Oct 31 13:47:49 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cellar@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cellar@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B04130D7A for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 13:47:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.35 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.35 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A9mX5NrDNlOr for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 13:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D8E712F1A5 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 13:47:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.109] ([93.243.39.244]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0ML6XF-1gIEW727zl-000K1a for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 21:47:42 +0100 Received: from [192.168.2.109] ([93.243.39.244]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0ML6XF-1gIEW727zl-000K1a for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 21:47:42 +0100 To: cellar@ietf.org References: <87h8h3mxzd.fsf@bunkus.org> <511fe00c-4005-4a2b-93e8-8526391602ff@Spark> <424E611D-AA12-4C24-B709-8E108C943D5C@dericed.com> <23983.1540973398@dooku.sandelman.ca> From: hubblec4 Message-ID: <4566b16d-59a6-053b-0b12-9640e722ae9b@gmx.ch> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 21:47:36 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:kvKYsGi8aDwBkg4Xc75iOPobvOlIHXGqKzIYsfNO3/zXNyJV7xR G+iOraT7w5Tn7fGZ49hdm3fgm874u9j80uIawnG29mLzbyJnouA1nwgV5nzN18OfEq18AFn BCGFxp956LbBZuRrhQWZQFrgj9tEtK22qiqYk38sHESUlZHxAyUZonKfwt9lrfFXP/VCyej 6eJwbS4eXRRknJNYGhbeg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:KtZnE97dYI4=:yLmurGn1lUuf4wdHwx2bml hwd8lvIUkNjpmnuO2mR8PhaT7pqf9wofgQ2RACXUHpA0xrbEPvnefOZgI1OiTjY9CcVV9/W1T MMq2J+cGPVmZCsCpqhaAesT1W2XnjoEiN0wKoNo9t300L6IOPqz2HNpmD7uiuHqdQFW2ynR+J TcEzWxWKcYFPf8r+5HfnLXPtdBZSuY7UV2RMLR6Q8+PSDRtfU1K/pf9RBY9dr3wAp5vqOmjNQ PkHRVZvFua0wy1bo7MfVjP9o3GUxt1u2/uHRbj0MQn7896So1Pm9BpvNFV6Gg3XgOzmsoE7Tc tiDiobrTCJb7TwG4g41+afzh8n6MnEHR5feWbacNuK5MZrpZ0GhhgDf1+KQ2d6QmHKLfKFHab G9dafmZGvna2wiEWKLEbkRvH4X5D4tkaA2ivzKK0+AowBYggDkVW/dpcTVJ/CI5q7i8ZBXA68 8VZGt/ON5FD4pvBxN8kLWEm8GBmiFtdlWpPT3cOUbd7LVSnc00AxzACXEbY7QsPPYWF9WORg/ Iv2iLqea44f5snCXlDWHKoxm9eB9ATF9m+dJNrQKS0K8xutkYWAiiRcbOmpCq5jDKjJO4mhng gh0fz7Lm9QdEWlKYyxMa440/8zGzj8r0ZVpg+e6Yo/iqy0ZNtF9mU2wVJaYaI7Tu+A98gMAuj 4xTduc92jS2jYYjMUcgwvGVMEAr/sjYO/FxpH0HbBEz+L8SFrNzABoNN1vQ99ZHaY2R68hmvc +j4nTFV4sIcUNa4DtDtocNteUKaXlvE2culHUIBLExXiktANcD02PhT84zN4Wvn8kgaS4tL1R 8zVLXxu5aFFVDm+BtSpjFE/0vmRU2XxZQPqj1Xs+lBJgrZIzOHRcFOorO3IaBMwXiCzltnYzi gQtRnClchwZekAHHEXK1E+IXIhmrSjk9bTyqp/c4JtjsuhaYKhsaLZgzQoIpWT Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Cellar] today's meeting X-BeenThere: cellar@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 20:47:48 -0000 Hi all Am 31.10.2018 um 18:17 schrieb Steve Lhomme: > If we reach next week works best for me (ie not this week) Next week is fine for me. > On 31 Oct 2018 at 09:10 +0100, Michael Richardson > , wrote: >> >> Dave Rice wrote: >>> Is anyone else on the call? We haven’t heard from either chair on this >>> thread. >> >> Hi, I knew I would be travelling, and Terri was going to take on chairing >> this meeting. I'm sorry that it didn't work well. >> >> -- >> Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works >> -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Cellar mailing list >> Cellar@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cellar