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(4 by hubb= lec4, mbunkus) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification/issues/401 [questi= on]=20 - #400 DocType element default value (2 by hubblec4, robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification/issues/400=20 - #164 Add a Rational Number type (1 by mbunkus) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification/issues/164 [format= addition]=20 1 issues closed: - Why is the EBML-Dummy element not part of the Ebml.xml? https://github.= com/ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification/issues/401=20 * ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification (+1/-2/=F0=9F=92=AC1) 1 issues created: - Can we use bits of DVD specs in the ChapterCodec (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/472 [bu= g] [spec_codecs]=20 1 issues received 1 new comments: - #470 Should we make ChapterTimeEnd mandatory for ordered chapters ? (1 = by hubblec4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/470 [cl= arifications] [spec_main]=20 2 issues closed: - Chapter times logic and nested Chapters https://github.com/ietf-wg-cell= ar/matroska-specification/issues/114 [clarifications] [spec_main]=20 - Move Chapter codec definitions in separate documents https://github.com= /ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/467 [formatting] [new_documen= t] [spec_main]=20 Pull requests ------------- * ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification (+2/-0/=F0=9F=92=AC0) 2 pull requests submitted: - fix some inconsitencies with DocType(Read)Version names (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification/pull/405 [bug] [er= rata-rfc8794]=20 - remove bogus DocType default value (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification/pull/404 [bug] [er= rata-rfc8794]=20 * ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification (+1/-2/=F0=9F=92=AC3) 1 pull requests submitted: - make ChapterTimeEnd mandatory for ordered chapters (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/473 [clar= ifications] [spec_main]=20 2 pull requests received 3 new comments: - #461 Move control track related content in a separate document (2 by ro= bUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/461 [form= atting] [spec_main]=20 - #380 XML-escape HTML elements in nodes (1 by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/380 [XML = Schema] [bug] [formatting]=20 2 pull requests merged: - The chapter end must be higher to the start value https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/464 [clar= ifications] [spec_main]=20 - Add a separate document that will receive all the Chapter Codecs parts = removed https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/469 [new_= document] [spec_codecs]=20 Repositories tracked by this digest: ----------------------------------- * https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification * https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification * https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFV1 * https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/Cellar-FLAC * https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/chair-notes --===============9166869666013938361== Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Weekly github digest (CELLAR Activity Summary)

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ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification (+1/-1/=F0=9F=92=AC8)

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ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification (+2/-0/=F0=9F=92=AC0)

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Sun, 11 Apr 2021 03:42:01 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="===============8596058047933619047==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Repository Activity Summary Bot To: cellar@ietf.org Message-Id: <20210411074201.A31BC1080054@mailuser.nyi.internal> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2021 03:42:01 -0400 (EDT) Archived-At: Subject: [Cellar] Weekly github digest (CELLAR Activity Summary) X-BeenThere: cellar@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2021 07:51:04 -0000 --===============8596058047933619047== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format="flowed" Events without label "editorial" Issues ------ * ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification (+0/-0/=F0=9F=92=AC17) 3 issues received 17 new comments: - #403 Element type default values (not the attribute "default") (4 by hu= bblec4, robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification/issues/403 [bug] [= errata-rfc8794]=20 - #400 DocType element default value (7 by JeromeMartinez, hubblec4, robU= x4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification/issues/400 [bug] [= errata-rfc8794]=20 - #164 Add a Rational Number type (6 by hubblec4, mbunkus, robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification/issues/164 [format= addition]=20 * ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification (+3/-8/=F0=9F=92=AC28) 3 issues created: - Add a title to each Figure in the Matroska specs (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/482 [cl= arifications] [formatting] [spec_main]=20 - clarify the range of Projection values (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/480 [cl= arifications] [spec_main]=20 - fix ChapterTimeEnd section (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/478 [bu= g]=20 15 issues received 28 new comments: - #478 fix ChapterTimeEnd section (2 by hubblec4, robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/478 [bu= g]=20 - #453 Clarify distinctions of 0 values from missing elements for new non= -mandatory flag elements (1 by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/453 [cl= arifications]=20 - #357 Create a register to identify an audiotrack as audiocommentry. (1 = by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/357 [fo= rmat addition] [spec_main]=20 - #330 [wish] image flipping (1 by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/330 [cl= arifications] [format addition] [spec_main]=20 - #313 Add a way to identify tracks for the hearing impaired (1 by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/313 [en= hancement] [format addition] [spec_main]=20 - #301 EditionDuration (1 by hubblec4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/301 [en= hancement] [format addition] [wontfix]=20 - #286 ChapterSegmentUID (1 by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/286 [cl= arifications] [spec_main]=20 - #270 support frame side data (1 by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/270 [fo= rmat addition] [spec_main]=20 - #267 ChapterSegmentEditionUID (2 by hubblec4, robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/267 [cl= arifications] [spec_main]=20 - #243 Support cards like youtube ones (1 by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/243 [cl= arifications] [format addition] [new_document]=20 - #238 Chapters Flags: wrong description (1 by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/238 [cl= arifications] [spec_main]=20 - #232 Nested-ordered chapters (12 by hubblec4, robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/232 [cl= arifications] [spec_main]=20 - #231 EditionFlagDefault (1 by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/231 [cl= arifications] [spec_main]=20 - #206 Only one Edition with EditionFlagHidden Flag set to true (1 by rob= Ux4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/206 [cl= arifications] [format addition] [spec_main]=20 - #45 Remove encryption elements that are not used (1 by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/45 [for= mat addition] [spec_main]=20 8 issues closed: - Remove mentions of Control Track in the main spec https://github.com/ie= tf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/456 [clarifications] [enhancemen= t] [spec_main]=20 - EditionDuration https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specificatio= n/issues/301 [enhancement] [format addition] [wontfix]=20 - ChapterSegmentUID https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specificat= ion/issues/286 [clarifications] [spec_main]=20 - Chapters Flags: wrong description https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/mat= roska-specification/issues/238 [clarifications] [spec_main]=20 - EditionFlagDefault https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specifica= tion/issues/231 [clarifications] [spec_main]=20 - Add a way to identify tracks for the hearing impaired https://github.co= m/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/313 [enhancement] [format ad= dition] [spec_main]=20 - [wish] image flipping https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specif= ication/issues/330 [clarifications] [format addition] [spec_main]=20 - Create a register to identify an audiotrack as audiocommentry. https://= github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/357 [format additio= n] [spec_main]=20 Pull requests ------------- * ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification (+1/-0/=F0=9F=92=AC5) 1 pull requests submitted: - add a minver attribute to enum values (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification/pull/406 [clarific= ations] [format addition]=20 3 pull requests received 5 new comments: - #406 add a minver attribute to enum values (3 by hubblec4, robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification/pull/406 [clarific= ations] [format addition]=20 - #405 fix some inconsitencies with DocType(Read)Version names (1 by hubb= lec4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification/pull/405 [bug] [er= rata-rfc8794]=20 - #404 remove bogus DocType default value (1 by hubblec4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification/pull/404 [bug] [er= rata-rfc8794]=20 * ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification (+8/-2/=F0=9F=92=AC6) 8 pull requests submitted: - Add a title for each figure (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/484 [clar= ifications] [formatting] [spec_main]=20 - Add a title for each table (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/483 [clar= ifications] [formatting] [spec_main]=20 - add a stronger normative range for the ProjectionPose values (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/481 [clar= ifications] [spec_main]=20 - mark strings with no default value as not usable if empty (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/479 [XML = Schema] [clarifications] [spec_main]=20 - Only use the divx extension to say an element is supported (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/477 [XML = Schema] [formatting] [spec_main]=20 - Only use the webm extension to say an element is supported (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/476 [XML = Schema] [formatting] [spec_main]=20 - make BlockGroup\Slices max version 1 (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/475 [clar= ifications] [spec_main]=20 - gitghub: fix Schema check error (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/474 [buil= d system]=20 4 pull requests received 6 new comments: - #479 mark strings with no default value as not usable if empty (1 by ro= bUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/479 [XML = Schema] [clarifications] [spec_main]=20 - #466 documentation image flipping through ProjectionPoseYaw/ProjectionP= oseRoll (1 by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/466 [clar= ifications] [spec_main]=20 - #447 Improve track autoselection capabilities and documentation (2 by Z= wyx, robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/447 [clar= ifications] [format addition] [spec_main]=20 - #425 Proposal to add some rational number in timestamps (2 by hubblec4,= robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/425 [form= at addition] [format extension] [matroska-v5] [spec_main]=20 2 pull requests merged: - Move control track related content in a separate document https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/461 [form= atting] [spec_main]=20 - github: fix Schema check error https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/474 [buil= d system]=20 Repositories tracked by this digest: ----------------------------------- * https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification * https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification * https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFV1 * https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/Cellar-FLAC * https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/chair-notes --===============8596058047933619047== Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Weekly github digest (CELLAR Activity Summary)

Sunday April 11, 2021

Events without label "editorial"

Issues

ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification (+0/-0/=F0=9F=92=AC17)

3 issues received 17 new comments:

ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification (+3/-8/=F0=9F=92=AC28)

3 issues created:

15 issues received 28 new comments:

8 issues closed:

Pull requests

ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification (+1/-0/=F0=9F=92=AC5)

1 pull requests submitted:

3 pull requests received 5 new comments:

ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification (+8/-2/=F0=9F=92=AC6)

8 pull requests submitted:

4 pull requests received 6 new comments:

2 pull requests merged:

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--===============8596058047933619047==-- From nobody Mon Apr 12 07:49:27 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cellar@ietf.org Delivered-To: cellar@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715F83A20F3; Mon, 12 Apr 2021 07:49:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: cellar@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.27.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: cellar@ietf.org Message-ID: <161823896141.14384.406949530808803476@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 07:49:21 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Cellar] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cellar-codec-06.txt X-BeenThere: cellar@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 14:49:22 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission WG of the IETF. Title : Matroska Media Container Codec Specifications Authors : Steve Lhomme Moritz Bunkus Dave Rice Filename : draft-ietf-cellar-codec-06.txt Pages : 53 Date : 2021-04-12 Abstract: This document defines the Matroska codec mappings, including the codec ID, layout of data in a "Block Element" and in an optional "CodecPrivate Element". The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cellar-codec/ There is also an HTML version available at: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-cellar-codec-06.html A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-cellar-codec-06 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Mon Apr 12 07:51:58 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cellar@ietf.org Delivered-To: cellar@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FACF3A20D2; Mon, 12 Apr 2021 07:51:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: cellar@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.27.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: cellar@ietf.org Message-ID: <161823911660.11366.13582781464009361241@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 07:51:56 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Cellar] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cellar-tags-06.txt X-BeenThere: cellar@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 14:51:57 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission WG of the IETF. Title : Matroska Media Container Tag Specifications Authors : Steve Lhomme Moritz Bunkus Dave Rice Filename : draft-ietf-cellar-tags-06.txt Pages : 23 Date : 2021-04-12 Abstract: This document defines the Matroska tags, namely the tag names and their respective semantic meaning. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cellar-tags/ There is also an HTML version available at: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-cellar-tags-06.html A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-cellar-tags-06 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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This draft is a work item of the Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission WG of the IETF. Title : Matroska Media Container Format Specifications Authors : Steve Lhomme Moritz Bunkus Dave Rice Filename : draft-ietf-cellar-matroska-07.txt Pages : 173 Date : 2021-04-12 Abstract: This document defines the Matroska audiovisual container, including definitions of its structural elements, as well as its terminology, vocabulary, and application. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cellar-matroska/ There is also an HTML version available at: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-cellar-matroska-07.html A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-cellar-matroska-07 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Rewrite parts of segment linking (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/490 [cl= arifications] [spec_main]=20 - Fix the IANA considerations for Tags specs (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/486 [bu= g] [clarifications] [spec_tags]=20 - Fix the IANA considerations for Codec specs (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/485 [bu= g] [clarifications] [spec_codecs]=20 3 issues received 4 new comments: - #478 fix ChapterTimeEnd section (1 by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/478 [bu= g] [spec_main]=20 - #422 Consider providing a facility for integer-fraction timescales (1 b= y robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/422 [cl= arifications] [format addition] [spec_main] [spec_tags]=20 - #414 Fix the IANA considerations for Matroska specs (2 by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/414 [bu= g] [clarifications] [spec_main]=20 2 issues closed: - Add a title to each Figure in the Matroska specs https://github.com/iet= f-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/482 [clarifications] [formatting]= [spec_main]=20 - Add a title to each table in the Matroska specs https://github.com/ietf= -wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/441 [formatting] [spec_main]=20 Pull requests ------------- * ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification (+7/-5/=F0=9F=92=AC8) 7 pull requests submitted: - make new track flags v4+ (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/494 [clar= ifications] [spec_main]=20 - fix UTF-8 that appear in the TXT output (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/493 [buil= d system]=20 - bump draft versions (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/492 [buil= d system]=20 - Deprecate internal signature on the content (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/491 [clar= ifications] [format addition] [spec_main]=20 - Move the ChapterSegmentUID section into the Medium Linking section (by = robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/489 [form= atting]=20 - fix MUST NOT grammar (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/488 [bug]= [clarifications] [spec_main]=20 - Move the deprecated elements at the end of the specs (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/487 [form= atting] [spec_main]=20 4 pull requests received 8 new comments: - #494 make new track flags v4+ (1 by rcombs) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/494 [clar= ifications] [spec_main]=20 - #493 fix UTF-8 that appear in the TXT output (4 by JeromeMartinez, robU= x4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/493 [buil= d system]=20 - #488 fix MUST NOT grammar (1 by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/488 [bug]= [clarifications] [spec_main]=20 - #447 Improve track autoselection capabilities and documentation (2 by Z= wyx, robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/447 [clar= ifications] [format addition] [spec_main]=20 5 pull requests merged: - Only use the webm extension to say an element is supported https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/476 [XML = Schema] [formatting] [spec_main]=20 - Only use the divx extension to say an element is supported https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/477 [XML = Schema] [formatting] [spec_main]=20 - Add a title for each figure https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/484 [clar= ifications] [formatting] [spec_main]=20 - Add a title for each table https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/483 [clar= ifications] [formatting] [spec_main]=20 - bump draft versions https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/492 [buil= d system]=20 Repositories tracked by this digest: ----------------------------------- * https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification * https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification * https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFV1 * https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/Cellar-FLAC * https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/chair-notes --===============2787195790952215696== Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Weekly github digest (CELLAR Activity Summary)

Sunday April 18, 2021

Events without label "editorial"

Issues

ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification (+3/-2/=F0=9F=92=AC4)

3 issues created:

3 issues received 4 new comments:

2 issues closed:

Pull requests

ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification (+7/-5/=F0=9F=92=AC8)

7 pull requests submitted:

4 pull requests received 8 new comments:

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Dear Cellar,=C2=A0

We have a monthly me= eting scheduled for Tuesday, April 27.

Are there s= pecial topics that we should make sure are on the=C2=A0agenda?
Best,

Spencer, who is trying to do a = better job of sending out reminders :-)
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I=20 could send the before and after versions to the mailing list. - how to handle the errata to the EBML RFC, we have 2 merged changes and = 2 pending changes. > Best, >=20 > Spencer, who is trying to do a better job of sending out reminders :-) >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Cellar mailing list > Cellar@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cellar >=20 From nobody Sun Apr 25 01:21:14 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cellar@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cellar@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4123A0E5A for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2021 01:21:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.819 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.819 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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Sun, 25 Apr 2021 03:43:19 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="===============5494294792303388501==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Repository Activity Summary Bot To: cellar@ietf.org Message-Id: <20210425074319.AF8A8108005B@mailuser.nyi.internal> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 03:43:19 -0400 (EDT) Archived-At: Subject: [Cellar] Weekly github digest (CELLAR Activity Summary) X-BeenThere: cellar@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 08:21:07 -0000 --===============5494294792303388501== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format="flowed" Events without label "editorial" Issues ------ * ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification (+2/-0/=F0=9F=92=AC7) 2 issues created: - Add an EBML constraint about 0-length elements (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/500 [cl= arifications] [format addition]=20 - Explain how to interpret timestamps of frames inside a lace (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/497 [cl= arifications] [spec_main]=20 3 issues received 7 new comments: - #419 Specify requirements around ReferenceBlock elements and how BlockG= roups signal random access points (1 by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/419 [cl= arifications] [spec_main]=20 - #355 EBML lacing with only one frame (4 by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/355 [cl= arifications] [spec_main]=20 - #310 Non-mandatory elements with default values (2 by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/310 [cl= arifications] [spec_main]=20 Pull requests ------------- * ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification (+7/-1/=F0=9F=92=AC2) 7 pull requests submitted: - Random Access Point clarifications (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/503 [bug]= [clarifications] [spec_main]=20 - make some Video\Colour elements mandatory (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/502 [XML = Schema] [clarifications] [spec_main]=20 - forbid non mandatory default values that are not 0 (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/501 [bug]= [clarifications] [spec_main]=20 - Remove some default values/make some elements mandatory (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/499 [XML = Schema] [clarifications] [spec_main]=20 - reorder attributes to have a consistent order between elements (by robU= x4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/498 [XML = Schema] [formatting] [spec_main]=20 - Rewrite the lacing section with more normative text and precise example= s (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/496 [clar= ifications]=20 - Reorder/Reparent sections in the Matroska RFC (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/495 [form= atting] [spec_main]=20 2 pull requests received 2 new comments: - #503 Random Access Point clarifications (1 by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/503 [bug]= [clarifications] [spec_main]=20 - #496 Rewrite the lacing section with more normative text and precise ex= amples (1 by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/496 [clar= ifications]=20 1 pull requests merged: - make new track flags v4+ https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/494 [clar= ifications] [spec_main]=20 Repositories tracked by this digest: ----------------------------------- * https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification * https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification * https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFV1 * https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/Cellar-FLAC * https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/chair-notes --===============5494294792303388501== Content-Type: text/html; 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ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification (+7/-1/=F0=9F=92=AC2)

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--===============5494294792303388501==-- From nobody Mon Apr 26 10:47:25 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cellar@ietf.org Delivered-To: cellar@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2463A2A98 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2021 10:47:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.28.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <161945924363.23782.14674837516766478814@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 10:47:23 -0700 From: IETF Secretariat Archived-At: Subject: [Cellar] Milestones changed for cellar WG X-BeenThere: cellar@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 17:47:24 -0000 Changed milestone "Submit specification for Matroska container to IESG (Standards Track)", added draft-ietf-cellar-codec, draft-ietf-cellar-tags to milestone. 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Attendees * Spencer Dawkins * 1. Note Well. https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/ 2. Accept draft minutes from previous meeting (attached below) 3. Logistics for Meeting. 3a) Shared COMIMD for notetaking: https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-cellar-virtual * Note that if you log in to the IETF datatracker, you'll be able to edit these notes, add your name to attendee lists, etc. * Please ask Spencer if you have questions. 3b) APPEAR.IN is now called "whereby.com" https://whereby.com/cellar-interim 3c) Roll call 4. WG status update * draft-ietf-cellar-codec-06 was posted 2021-04-12, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-ffv1-20 was posted 2021-02-23, is now in RFC Editor Queue * draft-ietf-cellar-ffv1-v4-16 was posted 2020-12-01, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-matroska-07 was posted 2021-04-12, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-tags-06 was posted 2021-04-12, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-flac-00 was posted 2019-07-30, has Expired (and we still don't have an editor, correct?) 5. Milestone review: * Matroska maybe at the end of Summer 2021? It's closer than we thought * "Matroska" includes -codec and -tags, correct? Spencer has updated this in the datatracker. * FLAC just needs an editor to complete the work. * FFV1-v4 requires more research, and it is unclear when we will know what a realistic goal date is. 5. 2021 virtual interim meeting dates * Please note our 2021 dates listed at https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/cellar/meetings/ * IETF 111 in July will definitely be virtual (announced last week). * Sometime around 2021-09-28, we=E2=80=99ll see if we want to meet at IE= TF 112 on November 6-12, 2021, in person in Madrid. 6. From the mailing list: From Steve, on EBML errata * we have 2 merged changes and 2 pending changes * What needs to happen next? 7. From the mailing list: From Steve, on Matroska #495 section reordering * Steve volunteered to rebuild the txt/html files and send before/after to the mailing list * Do we need to do anything else? ACTION: mcr to have two other normative references in FFv1 changed to informative. 8. FFV1 v4 issues * 9. Matroska issues * 10. FLAC issues * Michael has reached out to Florin to see about his interest in helping with this document, but we don't have an answer from him. * no response to email Feb. 23. ACTION: Dave will repost flac document with new version number. AOB? NEXT MEETING May 25, 2021. Notes from previous meeting for approval CELLAR -- DRAFT AGENDA for Virtual Interim Meeting March 23, 2021 21:00 Amsterdam *** 20:00 UTC 16:00 NYC 13:00 San Francisco (*** Time is anchored to Amsterdam) INFO: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2021-cellar-03-cellar-01= / WEB CONFERENCE: https://whereby.com/cellar-interim THERE IS NO TELEPHONE DIALIN (You can try this at any time.) These notes at: https://github.com/cellar-wg/chair-notes Attendees * Spencer Dawkins * Michael Richardson * Martin Below * J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me Martinez * Dave Rice * 1. Note Well. https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/ 2. Accept draft minutes from January 26 meeting (attached below) 3. Logistics for Meeting. 3a) Shared COMIMD for notetaking: https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-cellar-virtual * Note that if you log in to the IETF datatracker, you'll be able to edit these notes, add your name to attendee lists, etc. * Please ask Spencer if you have questions. 3b) APPEAR.IN is now called "whereby.com" https://whereby.com/cellar-interim 3c) Roll call 4. WG status update * draft-ietf-cellar-codec-05 was posted 2020-10-19, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-ffv1-20 was posted 2020-12-01, was approved before IETF 110, is now in RFC Editor Queue * draft-ietf-cellar-ffv1-v4-16 was posted 2020-12-01, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-matroska-06 was posted 2020-10-19, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-tags-05 was posted 2020-10-19, in ID Exists * FLAC specification has not been posted to the datatracker yet * We agreed at the December 2020 meeting that we would have a focused conversation about FFV1 v4 in our February meeting, and noted then that the April 2021 date is not realistic. At this point, NONE of our existing dates are realistic. We'll discuss on this call. * Milestone review: Matroska maybe at the end of Summer 2021? It's closer than we thought * FLAC just needs an editor to complete the work. * FFV1-v4 requires more research, and it is unclear when we will know what a realistic goal date is. 5. 2021 virtual interim meeting dates * Please note that the our 2021 dates listed at https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/cellar/meetings/ * Determination of whether IETF 111 in July will be able to meet in person, to be made in a month or two. * Sometime around 2021-09-28, we=E2=80=99ll see if we want to meet at IE= TF 112 on November 6-12, 2021, in person in Madrid. 6. Celebration of FFV1 approval for publication as RFC, with minor cleanup * IESG ballot positions at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cellar-ffv1/ballot/ * We will have our second RFC "Real Soon Now" * We need to pay close attention to normative references, especially if they are really informative * FFV1 doesn't actually have a normative dependency on Matroska - are any other normative dependencies actually informative? If so, we can ask that these changes be made during AUTH48, with AD concurrence. * RFC Editor has made the change to Matroska (being Informative) with AD approval, so the draft is not blocked on MISS\*REF (missing normative reference) 7. From the mailing list: Normative references that are actually Informative references * Do we have anything else to change, in FFv1? * Do we have anything to change in other specifications? ACTION: mcr to have two other normative references in FFv1 changed to informative. 8. FFV1 v4 issues * too soon to figure out what are the major differences yet to do in v4. * there are still open possibilities in performance without changing the v3 bitstream format, and those that do not work, will make up the v4 changeset. * we can close #240 (as soon as we figure out how) 9. Matroska issues * Discussion on Github issues, especially on chapters 10. FLAC issues * Michael has reached out to Florin to see about his interest in helping with this document, but we don't have an answer from him. * no response to email Feb. 23. ACTION: Dave will repost flac document with new version number. AOB? --00000000000069444705c0e6ed29 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
CELLAR -- DRAFT AGENDA for Virtual Interim MeetingApril 27, 2021 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A021:00 Amsterdam =C2=A0***
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(*** Time i= s anchored to Amsterdam)

INFO:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0https://gi= thub.com/ietf-wg-cellar/chair-notes/tree/master/interim-2021-04
=C2= =A0 =C2=A0(*** Note that we're now pointing to the Github repo for chai= r notes here***)

WEB CONFERENCE:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0https://whereby.com/cellar-interim
<= br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0THERE IS NO TELEPHONE DIALIN (You can try connecting to the= whereby.com link at any time.)

= =C2=A0 =C2=A0Attendees
=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Spencer Dawkins
=C2=A0 =C2=A0*=

1.=C2=A0 Note Well. =C2=A0https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/

2.=C2=A0 Accept = draft minutes from previous meeting (attached below)

3.=C2=A0 Logist= ics for Meeting.
=C2=A0 =C2=A03a) Shared COMIMD for notetaking:
=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-cellar-virtual
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0* Note that if you log in to the IETF datatracker, you'll =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0be able to edit these notes, add your name to a= ttendee
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0lists, etc. *
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Please ask Spencer if you have que= stions.

=C2=A0 =C2=A03b) APPEAR.IN = is now called "whereby.com"
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://whereby.com/cellar-interim

=C2=A0 =C2=A03c) Roll cal= l

4.=C2=A0 WG status update

=C2=A0 =C2=A0* draft-ietf-cellar-= codec-06 was posted 2021-04-12, in ID Exists
=C2=A0 =C2=A0* draft-ietf-c= ellar-ffv1-20 was posted 2021-02-23, is now in RFC Editor Queue
=C2=A0 = =C2=A0* draft-ietf-cellar-ffv1-v4-16 was posted 2020-12-01, in ID Exists=C2=A0 =C2=A0* draft-ietf-cellar-matroska-07 was posted 2021-04-12, in ID = Exists
=C2=A0 =C2=A0* draft-ietf-cellar-tags-06 was posted 2021-04-12, i= n ID Exists
=C2=A0 =C2=A0* draft-ietf-cellar-flac-00 was posted 2019-07-= 30, has Expired (and we still don't have an editor, correct?)

5.= =C2=A0 Milestone review:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Matroska maybe at the end of Su= mmer 2021? It's closer than we thought
=C2=A0 =C2=A0* "Matrosk= a" includes -codec and -tags, correct? Spencer has updated this in the= datatracker.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0* FLAC just needs an editor to complete the w= ork.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0* FFV1-v4 requires more research, and it is unclear wh= en we will know what a realistic goal date is.

5. =C2=A02021 virtua= l interim meeting dates

=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Please note our 2021 dates li= sted at https:= //datatracker.ietf.org/wg/cellar/meetings/
=C2=A0 =C2=A0* IETF 111 i= n July will definitely be virtual (announced last week).
=C2=A0 =C2=A0*= Sometime around 2021-09-28, we=E2=80=99ll see if we want to meet at IETF 1= 12 on November 6-12, 2021, in person in Madrid.

6.=C2=A0 From the ma= iling list: From Steve, on EBML errata
=C2=A0 =C2=A0* we have 2 merged c= hanges and 2 pending changes
=C2=A0 =C2=A0* What needs to happen next?
7.=C2=A0 From the mailing list: From Steve, on Matroska #495 section = reordering
=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Steve volunteered to rebuild the txt/html file= s and send before/after to the mailing list
=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Do we need to= do anything else?
=C2=A0 =C2=A0
ACTION: mcr to have two other normat= ive references in FFv1 changed to informative.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0
8. =C2= =A0 FFV1 v4 issues
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 *
=C2=A0 =C2=A0
9.=C2=A0 Matros= ka issues
=C2=A0 =C2=A0*

10. FLAC issues
=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Micha= el has reached out to Florin to see about his interest in helping with this= document, but we don't have an answer from him.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0* no response to email Feb. 23.

ACTION: Dave will repost f= lac document with new version number.

AOB?

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 NEXT= MEETING May 25, 2021.

Notes from previous meeting for approval
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March 23, 2021 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A021:00 Amsterdam =C2=A0***
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(*** Time is anchored to Ams= terdam)

INFO:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0https://datatracker.ietf.or= g/doc/agenda-interim-2021-cellar-03-cellar-01/

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=C2=A0 =C2=A0THERE IS NO TELEPHONE DIA= LIN (You can try this at any time.)

=C2=A0 =C2=A0These notes at: https://github.com/cellar= -wg/chair-notes
=C2=A0 =C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Attendees
=C2=A0 = =C2=A0* Spencer Dawkins
=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Michael Richardson
=C2=A0 =C2= =A0* Martin Below
=C2=A0 =C2=A0* J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me Martinez
=C2=A0 =C2= =A0* Dave Rice
=C2=A0 =C2=A0*

1.=C2=A0 Note Well. =C2=A0https://www.ietf.org/about/note-= well/
2.=C2=A0 Accept draft minutes from January 26 meeting (attache= d below)

3.=C2=A0 Logistics for Meeting.
=C2=A0 =C2=A03a) Shared = COMIMD for notetaking:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-cellar-vir= tual
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0* Note that if you log in to the IET= F datatracker, you'll
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0be able to edit th= ese notes, add your name to attendee
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0lists, = etc. *
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Please = ask Spencer if you have questions.

=C2=A0 =C2=A03b) APPEAR.IN is now called "whereby.com"

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://whereby.com/cellar-interim
=C2=A0 =C2=A03c) Roll call

4.=C2=A0 WG status update

=C2=A0= =C2=A0* draft-ietf-cellar-codec-05 was posted 2020-10-19, in ID Exists
= =C2=A0 =C2=A0* draft-ietf-cellar-ffv1-20 was posted 2020-12-01, was approve= d before IETF 110, is now in RFC Editor Queue
=C2=A0 =C2=A0* draft-ietf-= cellar-ffv1-v4-16 was posted 2020-12-01, in ID Exists
=C2=A0 =C2=A0* dra= ft-ietf-cellar-matroska-06 was posted 2020-10-19, in ID Exists
=C2=A0 = =C2=A0* draft-ietf-cellar-tags-05 was posted 2020-10-19, in ID Exists
= =C2=A0 =C2=A0* FLAC specification has not been posted to the datatracker ye= t
=C2=A0 =C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0* We agreed at the December 2020 meeting= that we would have a focused conversation about FFV1 v4 in our February me= eting, and noted then that the April 2021 date is not realistic. At this po= int, NONE of our existing dates are realistic. We'll discuss on this ca= ll.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Milestone review: =C2=A0Matroska maybe at the en= d of Summer 2021? It's closer than we thought
=C2=A0 =C2=A0* FLAC ju= st needs an editor to complete the work.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0* FFV1-v4 requires= more research, and it is unclear when we will know what a realistic goal d= ate is.

5. =C2=A02021 virtual interim meeting dates

=C2=A0 = =C2=A0* Please note that the our 2021 dates listed at https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/cel= lar/meetings/
=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Determination of whether IETF 111 in Ju= ly will be able to meet in person, to be made in a month or two.
=C2=A0= =C2=A0* Sometime around 2021-09-28, we=E2=80=99ll see if we want to meet a= t IETF 112 on November 6-12, 2021, in person in Madrid.

6.=C2=A0 Cel= ebration of FFV1 approval for publication as RFC, with minor cleanup
=C2= =A0 =C2=A0* IESG ballot positions at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draf= t-ietf-cellar-ffv1/ballot/

=C2=A0 =C2=A0* We will have our secon= d RFC "Real Soon Now"
=C2=A0 =C2=A0* We need to pay close atte= ntion to normative references, especially if they are really informative=C2=A0 =C2=A0* FFV1 doesn't actually have a normative dependency on Ma= troska - are any other normative dependencies actually informative? If so, = we can ask that these changes be made during AUTH48, with AD concurrence.=C2=A0 =C2=A0* RFC Editor has made the change to Matroska (being Informat= ive) with AD approval, so the draft is not blocked on MISS\*REF (missing no= rmative reference)

7.=C2=A0 From the mailing list: Normative referen= ces that are actually Informative references
=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Do we have a= nything else to change, in FFv1?
=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Do we have anything to c= hange in other specifications?
=C2=A0 =C2=A0
ACTION: mcr to have two = other normative references in FFv1 changed to informative.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0=
8. =C2=A0 FFV1 v4 issues

=C2=A0 =C2=A0* too soon to figure out= what are the major differences yet to do in v4.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0* there ar= e still open possibilities in performance without changing the v3 bitstream= format, and those that do not work, will make up the v4 changeset.
=C2= =A0 =C2=A0* we can close #240 (as soon as we figure out how)
=C2=A0 =C2= =A0
9.=C2=A0 Matroska issues
=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Discussion on Github issu= es, especially on chapters

10. FLAC issues
=C2=A0 =C2=A0* Michael= has reached out to Florin to see about his interest in helping with this d= ocument, but we don't have an answer from him.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0* no response to email Feb. 23.

ACTION: Dave will repost flac= document with new version number.

AOB?
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X-BeenThere: cellar@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 19:59:38 -0000 --000000000000b614c705c0f9b26a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, Steve, On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 1:23 AM Steve Lhomme wrote: > On 2021-04-20 23:47, Spencer Dawkins at IETF wrote: > > Dear Cellar, > > > > We have a monthly meeting scheduled for Tuesday, April 27. > > > > Are there special topics that we should make sure are on the agenda? > > Hi Spencer, > > There are 2 main topics I'd like to see discussed: > We talked about both of these on today's call (CodiMD is at https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-cellar-virtual?edit). > - the reordering of some sections in Matroska #495 which is needed IMO > and is blocking other changes in the text sections that are moved. It > may be necessary to build the txt/html file to see how it changes. I > could send the before and after versions to the mailing list. > We thought your suggestion to send before/after versions to the mailing list was excellent - please proceed as you suggested! > > - how to handle the errata to the EBML RFC, we have 2 merged changes and > 2 pending changes. > We actually worked on submitting these errata to the RFC Errata system on the call. Thanks for helping keep us on track! Spencer > > > Best, > > > > Spencer, who is trying to do a better job of sending out reminders :-) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Cellar mailing list > > Cellar@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cellar > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Cellar mailing list > Cellar@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cellar > --000000000000b614c705c0f9b26a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, Steve,

On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 1:23 AM= Steve Lhomme <slhomme@matroska.= org> wrote:
On 2021-04-20 23:47, Spencer Dawkins at IETF wrote:
> Dear Cellar,
>
> We have a monthly meeting scheduled for Tuesday, April 27.
>
> Are there special topics that we should make sure are on the=C2=A0agen= da?

Hi Spencer,

There are 2 main topics I'd like to see discussed:

We talked about both of these on today's call (CodiMD= =C2=A0is at=C2=A0https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-cellar-virtual?edit).
=C2= =A0
- the reordering of some sections in Matroska #495 which is needed IMO
and is blocking other changes in the text sections that are moved. It
may be necessary to build the txt/html file to see how it changes. I
could send the before and after versions to the mailing list.

We thought your suggestion to send before/after vers= ions to the mailing list was excellent - please proceed as you suggested!
=C2=A0

- how to handle the errata to the EBML RFC, we have 2 merged changes and 2 pending changes.

We actually worked o= n submitting these errata to the RFC Errata system on the call.=C2=A0
=

Thanks for helping keep us on track!

=
Spencer
=C2=A0

> Best,
>
> Spencer, who is trying to do a better job of sending out reminders :-)=
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Cellar@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cellar >


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X-BeenThere: cellar@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 13:31:07 -0000 On 2021-04-27 21:58, Spencer Dawkins at IETF wrote: > Hi, Steve, > > On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 1:23 AM Steve Lhomme > wrote: > > On 2021-04-20 23:47, Spencer Dawkins at IETF wrote: > > Dear Cellar, > > > > We have a monthly meeting scheduled for Tuesday, April 27. > > > > Are there special topics that we should make sure are on the agenda? > > Hi Spencer, > > There are 2 main topics I'd like to see discussed: > > > We talked about both of these on today's call (CodiMD is at > https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-cellar-virtual?edit > ). Uh. I'm so sorry. My internal clock is all messed up these days. I though the meeting was *today* ! I must setup some more efficient alarms for next time... > - the reordering of some sections in Matroska #495 which is needed IMO > and is blocking other changes in the text sections that are moved. It > may be necessary to build the txt/html file to see how it changes. I > could send the before and after versions to the mailing list. > > > We thought your suggestion to send before/after versions to the mailing > list was excellent - please proceed as you suggested! > > > - how to handle the errata to the EBML RFC, we have 2 merged changes > and > 2 pending changes. > > > We actually worked on submitting these errata to the RFC Errata system > on the call. > > Thanks for helping keep us on track! > > Spencer > > > > Best, > > > > Spencer, who is trying to do a better job of sending out > reminders :-) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Cellar mailing list > > Cellar@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cellar > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Cellar mailing list > Cellar@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cellar > > From nobody Wed Apr 28 10:52:48 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cellar@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cellar@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F405E3A18EC for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 10:52:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.097 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.097 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TlskybNsrviN for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 10:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yb1-xb33.google.com (mail-yb1-xb33.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b33]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44C3A3A18EB for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 10:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yb1-xb33.google.com with SMTP id j6so7282617ybh.11 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 10:52:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=RF+O6uGSHi1c8QVVzKVc6B2bMFfRH57a7xmrnv1ozJ0=; b=ZZmov5ETQq49d/ytfsTPzgE31w5FsfdGp9bvyxn9FqAj6G45BhCP/m9soYZzUVud8H DcW/VCAM4bzHrMirAjHp2/p8YyNVUYE3A9z13bI1BpdCZv7dTL+yfIZ2wqhpErAU5Ndp oXf76jwO2Jvt6Nl3BZSIsWzcY3Io9Lgm4vFknCr1l6Nz8PPxPS+lEE8BzjZlfIiR7pgD GwlLRycQzg9LBmOoB55CsZ0GIF6ak5xGLJveZsFgz4Y+D4/suQYUO+D9VqBTBPWQK/u4 xrKui5SjfJFChYF0e+KwNOH9Y9pEiGouvK2vowP2DqfV3NrIlUMh6DC1+6Lu8dKhUa4R 6DWQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=RF+O6uGSHi1c8QVVzKVc6B2bMFfRH57a7xmrnv1ozJ0=; b=eN+YXC7WI01vg14neL5diFU7+fz8Kh7ZvWgkuO/npDwC6dzHctOrh7MziW1llwuB13 YiD7vtUpBTSDOjO0TVNdkSqR6s65R3Q8O5buUUHF1PxNf91/CFiEWCJ6wL/eqJl5TSdC ZpqdZ47bWQqIuI40tGQbuno8dn1GeVYs95Z1P13n7RxoEcCtJZIoesoTQ7OZOQu0ROBN bI+uD9uY+l4qhPZTJccoAKJxJOdATYvAmGdOqzvUUVKKoV7JScVCjWwBatn6R1RNk0af vaJYz7v8OMiSz4n120nsRE/lrVT75YjftLc+2ZW4JD2dEBNFbFFK88azuMCYfCIc8Lcz umTQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531Jxcd97qzfg8Nb9M+WLQyVZom/zJOABimlJGqHBSrlIySpPnj0 W1Oroo1/xQb5xXnDXwDC+zBgUDPt8UNWw4lxYIA085rFDb0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzukP5ircw7jrdX9lRPmRsTe6tR0A+sZFSKsmS7d/mEl0ENMSGVmm4wd9lhBVDKnKkdHEKhk3HsVu+UuEP8abQ= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6902:1007:: with SMTP id w7mr21358957ybt.53.1619632360363; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 10:52:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0b3b9f34-187b-3420-18df-f75c1b75744f@matroska.org> <630dbd55-3f84-ce9e-18c6-5d6a7063dd53@matroska.org> In-Reply-To: <630dbd55-3f84-ce9e-18c6-5d6a7063dd53@matroska.org> From: Spencer Dawkins at IETF Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 12:52:13 -0500 Message-ID: To: Steve Lhomme Cc: Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008199a205c10c0b79" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Cellar] Special topics for April 2021 Cellar meeting? X-BeenThere: cellar@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 17:52:47 -0000 --0000000000008199a205c10c0b79 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, Steve, On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 8:30 AM Steve Lhomme wrote: > On 2021-04-27 21:58, Spencer Dawkins at IETF wrote: > > Hi, Steve, > > > > On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 1:23 AM Steve Lhomme > > wrote: > > > > On 2021-04-20 23:47, Spencer Dawkins at IETF wrote: > > > Dear Cellar, > > > > > > We have a monthly meeting scheduled for Tuesday, April 27. > > > > > > Are there special topics that we should make sure are on > the agenda? > > > > Hi Spencer, > > > > There are 2 main topics I'd like to see discussed: > > > > > > We talked about both of these on today's call (CodiMD is at > > https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-cellar-virtual?edit > > ). > > Uh. I'm so sorry. My internal clock is all messed up these days. I > though the meeting was *today* ! > I must setup some more efficient alarms for next time... > It happens! Michael and I tried to take good notes during the meeting. > > > - the reordering of some sections in Matroska #495 which is needed > IMO > > and is blocking other changes in the text sections that are moved. It > > may be necessary to build the txt/html file to see how it changes. I > > could send the before and after versions to the mailing list. > > > > > > We thought your suggestion to send before/after versions to the mailing > > list was excellent - please proceed as you suggested! > Are you OK to send these versions to the mailing list? Best, Spencer > > > > > > - how to handle the errata to the EBML RFC, we have 2 merged changes > > and > > 2 pending changes. > > > > > > We actually worked on submitting these errata to the RFC Errata system > > on the call. > > > > Thanks for helping keep us on track! > > > > Spencer > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > Spencer, who is trying to do a better job of sending out > > reminders :-) > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Cellar mailing list > > > Cellar@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cellar > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Cellar mailing list > > Cellar@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cellar > > > > > --0000000000008199a205c10c0b79 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, Steve,

On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 8:30 AM= Steve Lhomme <slhomme@matroska.= org> wrote:
On 2021-04-27 21:58, Spencer Dawkins at IETF wrote:
> Hi, Steve,
>
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 1:23 AM Steve Lhomme <slhomme@matroska.org
> <mailto:s= lhomme@matroska.org>> wrote:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On 2021-04-20 23:47, Spencer Dawkins at IETF wrote:=
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Dear Cellar,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > We have a monthly meeting scheduled for Tuesd= ay, April 27.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Are there special topics that we should make = sure are on the=C2=A0agenda?
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Hi Spencer,
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0There are 2 main topics I'd like to see discuss= ed:
>
>
> We talked about both of these on today's call (CodiMD=C2=A0is at <= br> > https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-cellar-virtual?e= dit
> <https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-cellar-virt= ual?edit>).

Uh. I'm so sorry. My internal clock is all messed up these days. I
though the meeting was *today* !
I must setup some more efficient alarms for next time...

It happens! Michael and I tried to take good notes during= the meeting.
=C2=A0

>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- the reordering of some sections in Matroska #495 = which is needed IMO
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0and is blocking other changes in the text sections = that are moved. It
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0may be necessary to build the txt/html file to see = how it changes. I
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0could send the before and after versions to the mai= ling list.
>
>
> We thought your suggestion to send before/after versions to the mailin= g
> list was excellent - please proceed as you suggested!
=

Are you OK to send these versions to the mailing list?<= /div>

Best,

Spencer
= =C2=A0
>
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- how to handle the errata to the EBML RFC, we have= 2 merged changes
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0and
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02 pending changes.
>
>
> We actually worked on submitting these errata to the RFC Errata system=
> on the call.
>
> Thanks for helping keep us on track!
>
> Spencer
>
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Best,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Spencer, who is trying to do a better job of = sending out
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0reminders :-)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > _____________________________________________= __
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Cellar mailing list
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Cellar@ietf.org <mailto:Cellar@ietf.org>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > https://www.ietf.org/mailm= an/listinfo/cellar
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<https://www.ietf.org/mailman= /listinfo/cellar>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
>
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0_______________________________________________
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Cellar mailing list
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Cellar@ietf.org <mailto:Cellar@ietf.org>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0https://www.ietf.org/mailman/lis= tinfo/cellar
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<https://www.ietf.org/mailman= /listinfo/cellar>
>
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X-BeenThere: cellar@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 03:40:55 -0000 --Apple-Mail-BDAE6641-34D0-410D-A44B-BAF59CF72E22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > On 28 Apr 2021, at 19:52, Spencer Dawkins at IETF wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF > Hi, Steve, >=20 >> On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 8:30 AM Steve Lhomme wrote= : >> On 2021-04-27 21:58, Spencer Dawkins at IETF wrote: >> > Hi, Steve, >> >=20 >> > On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 1:23 AM Steve Lhomme > > > wrote: >> >=20 >> > On 2021-04-20 23:47, Spencer Dawkins at IETF wrote: >> > > Dear Cellar, >> > > >> > > We have a monthly meeting scheduled for Tuesday, April 27. >> > > >> > > Are there special topics that we should make sure are on the age= nda? >> >=20 >> > Hi Spencer, >> >=20 >> > There are 2 main topics I'd like to see discussed: >> >=20 >> >=20 >> > We talked about both of these on today's call (CodiMD is at=20 >> > https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-cellar-virtual?edit=20 >> > ). >>=20 >> Uh. I'm so sorry. My internal clock is all messed up these days. I=20 >> though the meeting was *today* ! >> I must setup some more efficient alarms for next time... >=20 > It happens! Michael and I tried to take good notes during the meeting. > =20 >>=20 >> > - the reordering of some sections in Matroska #495 which is needed I= MO >> > and is blocking other changes in the text sections that are moved. I= t >> > may be necessary to build the txt/html file to see how it changes. I= >> > could send the before and after versions to the mailing list. >> >=20 >> >=20 >> > We thought your suggestion to send before/after versions to the mailing= =20 >> > list was excellent - please proceed as you suggested! >=20 > Are you OK to send these versions to the mailing list? Yes, I will. >=20 > Best, >=20 > Spencer > =20 >> >=20 >> >=20 >> > - how to handle the errata to the EBML RFC, we have 2 merged change= s >> > and >> > 2 pending changes. >> >=20 >> >=20 >> > We actually worked on submitting these errata to the RFC Errata system=20= >> > on the call. >> >=20 >> > Thanks for helping keep us on track! >> >=20 >> > Spencer >> >=20 >> >=20 >> > > Best, >> > > >> > > Spencer, who is trying to do a better job of sending out >> > reminders :-) >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Cellar mailing list >> > > Cellar@ietf.org >> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cellar >> > >> > > >> >=20 >> >=20 >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Cellar mailing list >> > Cellar@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cellar >> > >> >=20 --Apple-Mail-BDAE6641-34D0-410D-A44B-BAF59CF72E22 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On 28 Apr 2021, at 19:52, Spencer Dawkins at I= ETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

<= blockquote type=3D"cite">
=EF=BB=BF
Hi, Steve,

On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 8:30 AM Steve Lhomme <slhomme@matroska.org> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-le= ft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 2021-04-27 21:58, Spencer= Dawkins at IETF wrote:
> Hi, Steve,
>
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 1:23 AM Steve Lhomme <slhomme@matroska.org
> <mailto:sl= homme@matroska.org>> wrote:
>
>     On 2021-04-20 23:47, Spencer Dawkins at IETF wrote:<= br> >      > Dear Cellar,
>      >
>      > We have a monthly meeting scheduled for Tuesda= y, April 27.
>      >
>      > Are there special topics that we should make s= ure are on the agenda?
>
>     Hi Spencer,
>
>     There are 2 main topics I'd like to see discussed: >
>
> We talked about both of these on today's call (CodiMD is at
> https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-cellar-virtual?edi= t
> <https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-cellar-virtual?= edit>).

Uh. I'm so sorry. My internal clock is all messed up these days. I
though the meeting was *today* !
I must setup some more efficient alarms for next time...

It happens! Michael and I tried to take good notes during t= he meeting.
 

>     - the reordering of some sections in Matroska #495 w= hich is needed IMO
>     and is blocking other changes in the text sections t= hat are moved. It
>     may be necessary to build the txt/html file to see h= ow it changes. I
>     could send the before and after versions to the mail= ing list.
>
>
> We thought your suggestion to send before/after versions to the mailing=
> list was excellent - please proceed as you suggested!
<= div>
Are you OK to send these versions to the mailing list?

Yes, I will.

=

Best,

Spencer
<= div> 
>
>
>     - how to handle the errata to the EBML RFC, we have 2= merged changes
>     and
>     2 pending changes.
>
>
> We actually worked on submitting these errata to the RFC Errata system <= br> > on the call.
>
> Thanks for helping keep us on track!
>
> Spencer
>
>
>      > Best,
>      >
>      > Spencer, who is trying to do a better job of s= ending out
>     reminders :-)
>      >
>      > ______________________________________________= _
>      > Cellar mailing list
>      > Cellar@ietf.org <mailto:Cellar@ietf.org>
>      > https://www.ietf.org/mailman= /listinfo/cellar
>     <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/l= istinfo/cellar>
>      >
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