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ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification (+0/-3/=F0=9F=92=AC0)

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Our next meetin= g (first of 2022) is 25 January, at the usual time.=C2=A0
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Is there anything that we need to talk about, beyond ou= r usual agenda items on working=C2=A0group documents?

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And since there's no "app" for it, I have > to use it on a browser in my tablet but the UI is really not suited for > that. I may have to changed my fingers for a smaller model :D > Yuck! Don't downgrade your fingers - we need you typing in Github, right? I have an 8-inch tablet - I'll plan to (also) log in using that device for our January meeting. I'd like to be able to describe this first-hand in conversations with the secretariat. You can't be the only person in the world who needs to access Meetecho from a tablet. Best, Spencer > > Best, > > Spencer > > _______________________________________________ > Cellar mailing listCellar@ietf.orghttps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cellar > > > _______________________________________________ > Cellar mailing list > Cellar@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cellar > --000000000000f6775c05d60985c0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, Steve,

On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 2:24 AM= Steve Lhomme <slhomme@matroska.= org> wrote:
=20 =20 =20
On 2021-11-23 21:55, Spencer Dawkins at IETF wrote:
=20
Dear Cellar,=C2=A0

We had both Whereby and MeetEcho links for today's conference call, and MeetEcho seemed to work well enough if you could log in through the IETF datatracker.=C2=A0

If you experienced problems logging in to MeetEcho, please=C2=A0let me know. This should be = a super easy problem to fix.=C2=A0

When we work out the kinks, we will switch=C2=A0to MeetEcho completely.

No problem to log for me, but I could not figure out which of the 3 tiny audio buttons would be the mute. And since there's no &quo= t;app" for it, I have to use it on a browser in my tablet but the UI is really not suited for that. I may have to changed my fingers for a smaller model :D


Yuck!=C2= =A0

Don't downgrade your fingers - we need you= typing in Github, right?

I have an 8-inch tablet = - I'll plan to (also) log in using that device for our January meeting.= I'd like to be able to describe this first-hand in conversations with = the secretariat.=C2=A0

You can't be the only p= erson in the world who needs to access Meetecho from a tablet.=C2=A0
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Best,

Spencer
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Sun, 23 Jan 2022 02:38:45 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="===============3282318683026738743==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Repository Activity Summary Bot To: cellar@ietf.org Message-Id: <20220123081607.974CE3A1C51@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 00:16:07 -0800 (PST) Archived-At: Subject: [Cellar] Weekly github digest (CELLAR Activity Summary) X-BeenThere: cellar@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 08:16:13 -0000 --===============3282318683026738743== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format="flowed" Events without label "editorial" Issues ------ * ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification (+0/-0/=F0=9F=92=AC1) 1 issues received 1 new comments: - #422 Consider providing a facility for integer-fraction timescales (1 b= y rcombs) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/422 [fo= rmat addition] [clarifications] [spec_main] [spec_tags] [matroska-v5]=20 Pull requests ------------- * ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification (+3/-1/=F0=9F=92=AC4) 3 pull requests submitted: - fix the last sentence considered as a title (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/579 [bug]= [build system]=20 - Generate the initial IANA registry for Matroska IDs (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/578 [buil= d system]=20 - make ChapterTimeEnd not mandatory on parent chapters (by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/577 [bug]= [clarifications]=20 3 pull requests received 4 new comments: - #578 Generate the initial IANA registry for Matroska IDs (2 by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/578 [buil= d system]=20 - #573 avs3 (IEEE 1857.10) video codec mapping (1 by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/573 [enha= ncement] [spec_codecs]=20 - #423 Add support for zstd content compression (1 by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/423 [form= at addition] [clarifications] [spec_main] [needs_to_be_rebased]=20 1 pull requests merged: - fix the last sentence considered as a title https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/579 [bug]= [build system]=20 * ietf-wg-cellar/flac-specification (+0/-2/=F0=9F=92=AC0) 2 pull requests merged: - Rewrite Residual coding section https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/flac-specification/pull/101=20 - Incorrect subframe for decoding left subframe https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/flac-specification/pull/123=20 Repositories tracked by this digest: ----------------------------------- * https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFV1 * https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification * https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification * https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-test-files * https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/flac-specification * https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/flac-test-files * https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/chair-notes --===============3282318683026738743== Content-Type: text/html; 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X-BeenThere: cellar@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 21:29:24 -0000 --00000000000054eb4605d6468b36 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, This is a question that is not necessarily something that has to be added to the agenda for the next meeting, as I think the subject is something that might be better discussed by email, but here it is anyway. Recently I've been wondering what the target audience is of the CELLAR drafts/RFCs, and what would be expected to be 'common knowledge'. There is a PR for the FLAC specification containing a few examples with quite a verbose step-by-step explanation as to how decoding FLAC streams works and a PR adding numerical considerations: what data type to use in what part of the decoder as to be sure integer overflow cannot happen. Both are superfluous when the specification is read by someone already familiar with the basic concepts of codec programming, but I feel they might be very handy for a reader that hasn't done anything similar professionally. However, from the limited number of RFC's I've glanced over, adding such things seems uncommon in RFCs. So, my question or discussion item here is: what should I expect from an RFC reader, and what content should be considered superfluous? Kind regards, Martijn van Beurden Op za 15 jan. 2022 om 15:54 schreef Spencer Dawkins at IETF < spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>: > Dear Cellar folk, > > Our next meeting (first of 2022) is 25 January, at the usual time. > > Michael and I want to get our year off to a great start, so we're asking > for special agenda items sooner than usual. > > Is there anything that we need to talk about, beyond our usual agenda > items on working group documents? > > Best, > > Spencer > _______________________________________________ > Cellar mailing list > Cellar@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cellar > --00000000000054eb4605d6468b36 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

This is a question that = is not necessarily something that has to be added to the agenda for the nex= t meeting, as I think the subject is something that might be better discuss= ed by email, but here it is anyway.

Recently I= 've been wondering what the target audience is of the CELLAR drafts/RFC= s, and what would be expected to be 'common knowledge'. There is a = PR for the FLAC specification containing a few examples with quite a verbos= e step-by-step explanation as to how decoding FLAC streams works and a PR a= dding numerical considerations: what data type to use in what part of the d= ecoder as to be sure integer overflow cannot happen. Both are superfluous w= hen the specification is read by someone already familiar with the basic co= ncepts of codec programming, but I feel they might be very handy for a read= er that hasn't done anything similar professionally. However, from the = limited number of RFC's I've glanced over, adding such things seems= uncommon in RFCs.

So, my question or discussi= on item here is: what should I expect from an RFC reader, and what content = should be considered superfluous?

Kind regards, Ma= rtijn van Beurden

Op za 15 jan. 2022 om 15:54 schreef Spencer Dawk= ins at IETF <spencerdaw= kins.ietf@gmail.com>:
Dear Cellar folk,=C2=A0

Ou= r next meeting (first of 2022) is 25 January, at the usual time.=C2=A0

Michael and I want to get our year off to a great= =C2=A0start, so we're asking for special agenda items sooner than usual= .=C2=A0

Is there anything that we need to talk abo= ut, beyond our usual agenda items on working=C2=A0group documents?

Best,

Spencer
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--00000000000054eb4605d6468b36-- From nobody Tue Jan 25 09:23:37 2022 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cellar@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cellar@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA1D53A0897 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 09:23:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.098 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=sandelman.ca Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cSFIinwACO0U for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 09:23:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:3:216:3eff:fe7c:d1f3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1F993A0888 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 09:23:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7936938A90 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 12:30:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id jOtoVElGsQje for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 12:30:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.21]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF77E389D9 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 12:30:09 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=sandelman.ca; s=mail; t=1643131809; bh=x/pxTQnniK8hFjVUmqkNrzyPcDroWftJleLLwM46RgY=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:From; b=fDA1s0/GE2KnIUVasORKp0KhhF1xKA9vPgRu4kanccKVBawkbQYrQitgqFp51YxDy NXNSEAhWjYxQ4PDnlfeLBcfWbx0NSSuyJRI/zQ20cYyhGt6ZWLtjj25VXsQsnWXCGa USXM39G9KVs029WEfHDrfyNvRXrcmhsk3OMcsevx+xtFxIR30CarM9qgKQrNDQ4Ep1 IuBxkkJ/GQP065rC+o6nlsgjWQsfa8WW86iiKM4ez1sHSMcr5Tcw19E0VQZywULQ0k +B6KbBbggsLV6CYnEFuW9CAYaYe36vqhL45S+BISzd3Ijx0B+T8VcWsAWAiUav0QNO 9kqTR+MfmpSRA== Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9005E8 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2022 12:23:24 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Richardson To: cellar@ietf.org X-Attribution: mcr X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 26.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Archived-At: Subject: [Cellar] 2022-01-25: agenda for today's meeting X-BeenThere: cellar@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 17:23:35 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Today's meeting is at 21:00 Amsterdam, 2000 UTC. That's in ~2.5 hours for me, I think. Spencer will be late, and I have an appointment that ends 30 minutes before, but I should be on time. # CELLAR -- DRAFT AGENDA for Virtual Interim Meeting | Date |Time | Local Times | |:------:|:-----------:|:------| |2022-01-25 |21:00 Amsterdam |[Time Converter](https://savvytime.com/conver= ter/netherlands-amsterdam-to-utc-ny-new-york-city-ca-san-francisco/jun-22-2= 021/9pm)| | **Note** | Meeting time is anchored to Amsterdam | ## Administrivia ### INFO: https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/chair-notes/tree/master/interim-2022-01 **Note that we're now pointing to the Github repo for chair notes here** ### WEB CONFERENCE: https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/interim/?short=3D7c38e939-3eaf-451e-8= fde-8d05e4bd88c8 #### Shared COMIMD for notetaking: https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-cellar-vir= tual * Note that if you log in to the IETF datatracker, you'll be able to edit t= hese notes, add your name to attendee lists, etc. * Please ask Spencer if you have questions. :::warning The ComiMD URL is still redirecting, but the newly official location is = https://notes.ietf.org/notes-cellar-virtual?edit - and that's active now. P= lease bookmark the new one when you're redirected to it. ::: ### Logistics for Meeting #### 2022 virtual interim meeting dates * Please note our 2022 dates listed at https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/cel= lar/meetings/ ## Agenda Items ### Note Well: https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/ #### Roll call Attendees * * Michael Richardson Regrets * Spencer Dawkins (will be 30 min late) #### Accept draft minutes from previous meeting (attached below) * Any objections? Please let us know on the mailing list. * No objections on the mailing list or on the call. ### WG status update * draft-ietf-cellar-chapter-codecs-00 was posted 2021-10-09, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-codec-07 was posted 2021-10-19, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-control-00 was posted 2021-10-09, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-ffv1-v4-18 was posted 2021-11-27, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-flac-02 was posted 2021-11-01, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-matroska-08 was posted 2021-10-09, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-tags-07 was posted 2021-10-09, in ID Exists ### Milestone review: * Previous status: Jerome is now able to focus on FFV1-v4, since we've p= ublished FFV1. **ACTION** Spencer to send e-mail to DISPATCH when we submit a (smal= l) update. We should wait until we have a bit more text, or bigger issues, = to publish as a draft. * Are we ready to submit a working group draft for EBML updates (errata = plus additions) yet? (https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification/= tree/corrections-doc) - we can still wait for more feedback/bigger changes = before submitting anything - ETA is "after we get Matroska out, so we know = everything Matroska needs will be covered" ##### Discussion on the call * ### Matroska issues - Discussion on the call * ### FLAC issues - Discussion on the call * ### FFV1 v4 issues - Discussion on the call * No discussion on the call ## AOB? * :::success NEXT MEETING 2022-01-25 :tada: ::: # CELLAR -- DRAFT AGENDA for Virtual Interim Meeting | Date |Time | Local Times | |:------:|:-----------:|:------| |2021-11-23 |21:00 Amsterdam |[Time Converter](https://savvytime.com/conver= ter/netherlands-amsterdam-to-utc-ny-new-york-city-ca-san-francisco/jun-22-2= 021/9pm)| | **Note** | Meeting time is anchored to Amsterdam | ## Administrivia ### INFO: https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/chair-notes/tree/master/interim-2021-10 **Note that we're now pointing to the Github repo for chair notes here** ### WEB CONFERENCE: https://whereby.com/cellar-interim THERE IS NO TELEPHONE DIALIN (You can try connecting to the whereby.com = link at any time.) Try out the meetecho link: https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/interim/?short=3Dec140dba-9bf7-4173-8= 0cf-bf1d86100095 #### Shared COMIMD for notetaking: https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-cellar-vir= tual * Note that if you log in to the IETF datatracker, you'll be able to edit t= hese notes, add your name to attendee lists, etc. * Please ask Spencer if you have questions. :::warning The ComiMD URL is still redirecting, but the newly official location is = https://notes.ietf.org/notes-cellar-virtual?edit - and that's active now. P= lease bookmark the new one when you're redirected to it. ::: ### Logistics for Meeting #### 2021 virtual interim meeting dates * Please note our 2022 dates listed at https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/cel= lar/meetings/ ## Agenda Items ### Note Well: https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/ #### Roll call Attendees * Spencer Dawkins * Michael Richardson * Martijn van Beurden * Steve Lhomme * J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me Martinez * Michael Niedermayer * Dave Rice Regrets * ### News You Can Use * **NOTE** that https://mediaarea.net/NoTimeToWait5 is December 8-10, wi= th in-person and virtual registration - a lot of us are attending ** workshop on improving Matroska, and how to improve FFV1. ** the workshops are on December 8, meeting 9/10. #### Final dates for 2022 Cellar meetings have been approved by our AD and = added to the datatracker * 2022-01-25 * 2022-02-22 * 2022-03-29 * 2022-04-26 * 2022-05-24 * 2022-06-28 * 2022-08-23 * 2022-09-27 * 2022-10-25 * 2022-12-06 ### WG status update * draft-ietf-cellar-chapter-codecs-00 was posted 2021-10-09, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-codec-07 was posted 2021-10-19, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-control-00 was posted 2021-10-09, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-ffv1-v4-17 was posted 2021-05-25, in ID Exists **Exp= ires Soon** -18 will be a keep-alive submission * draft-ietf-cellar-flac-02 was posted 2021-11-01, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-matroska-08 was posted 2021-10-09, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-tags-07 was posted 2021-10-09, in ID Exists ### Milestone review: * Previous status: Jerome is now able to focus on FFV1-v4, since we've p= ublished FFV1. **ACTION** Spencer to send e-mail to DISPATCH when we submit= a (small) update. We should wait until we have a bit more text, or bigger = issues, to publish as a draft. * Are we ready to submit a working group draft for EBML updates (errata = plus additions) yet? (https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification/= tree/corrections-doc) - we can still wait for more feedback/bigger changes = before submitting anything - ETA is "after we get Matroska out, so we know = everything Matroska needs will be covered" ##### Discussion on the call * **ACTION:** For Matroska, **Spencer and Michael** will review the IANA= considerations, especially for deprecated assignments/non-assignments, and= ask for ART area review * move the security considerations before IANA section #### Accept draft minutes from previous meeting (attached below) * Any objections? Please let us know on the mailing list. * No objections on the mailing list or on the call. ### Making sure we have copyright issues straightened out for the FLAC spec= ification * Update from Michael on discussions with Josh Coalson and IETF Trust * Continue with the current document, or start a new one? ##### Discussion on the call * Martijn has a PR for new text, but we can use text from the previous d= ocument now that Josh has agreed that we have permission * **ACTION: Spencer and Michael**: get list of authors correct. * Martijn to add himself as an author and delete Michael Richardson * We will continue to engage with Josh on whether he would like to be li= sted as an author or added as a contributor * We should add the Xiph documentation as a informative reference ### Matroska issues - Discussion on the call * (above IANA Considerations review) * We do have PRs we can merge now * **ACTION: please review pull requests: 115, 555** ### FLAC issues - Discussion on the call * Discussed under copyright topic above ### FFV1 v4 issues - Discussion on the call * No discussion on the call * **ACTION: -18 keepalive version will get reposted by Dave Rice** ## AOB? 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Spencer note that there is an open ACTION for you, which we didn't know if you had managed to complete that. And the minutes are included below: # CELLAR -- DRAFT AGENDA for Virtual Interim Meeting | Date |Time | Local Times | |:------:|:-----------:|:------| |2022-01-25 |21:00 Amsterdam |[Time Converter](https://savvytime.com/conver= ter/netherlands-amsterdam-to-utc-ny-new-york-city-ca-san-francisco/jun-22-2= 021/9pm)| | **Note** | Meeting time is intentionally anchored to Amsterdam | ## Administrivia ### Logistics for Meeting ### INFO: https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/chair-notes/tree/master/interim-2022-01 **Note that we're now pointing to the Github repo for chair notes here** ### WEB CONFERENCE: https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/interim/?short=3D7c38e939-3eaf-451e-8= fde-8d05e4bd88c8 #### Shared COMIMD for notetaking: https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-cellar-vir= tual * Note that if you log in to the IETF datatracker, you'll be able to edit t= hese notes, add your name to attendee lists, etc. * Please ask Spencer if you have questions. :::warning The ComiMD URL is still redirecting, but the newly official location is = https://notes.ietf.org/notes-cellar-virtual?edit - and that's active now. P= lease bookmark the new one when you're redirected to it. ::: #### 2022 virtual interim meeting dates * Please note our 2022 dates listed at https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/cel= lar/meetings/ ## Agenda Items ### Note Well: https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/ #### Roll call Attendees * Martijn van Beurden * Michael Richardson * Steve Lhomme * Michael Niedermayer * J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me Martinez Regrets * Spencer Dawkins (will be 30 min late) #### Accept draft minutes from previous meeting (attached below) * Any objections? Please let us know on the mailing list. * No objections on the mailing list or on the call. ### WG status update * draft-ietf-cellar-chapter-codecs-00 was posted 2021-10-09, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-codec-07 was posted 2021-10-19, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-control-00 was posted 2021-10-09, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-ffv1-v4-18 was posted 2021-11-27, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-flac-02 was posted 2021-11-01, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-matroska-08 was posted 2021-10-09, in ID Exists * draft-ietf-cellar-tags-07 was posted 2021-10-09, in ID Exists ### Milestone review: * Previous status: Jerome is now able to focus on FFV1-v4, since we've p= ublished FFV1. **ACTION** Spencer to send e-mail to DISPATCH when we submit a (smal= l) update. We should wait until we have a bit more text, or bigger issues, = to publish as a draft. * Are we ready to submit a working group draft for EBML updates (errata = plus additions) yet? (https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification/= tree/corrections-doc) * we can still wait for more feedback/bigger changes before submitti= ng anything - ETA is "after we get Matroska out, so we know everything Matr= oska needs will be covered" * also have some implementation/experience reports. * Discussion about what is an Internet Standard. * it is actually quite an old format, a lot of implementations. * but for many implementations, there will be no updates, but th= e current files play just fine. ### Matroska issues - Discussion on the call * merged a few pull requests * merged/rewrote the time work, defined different ticks for each time ba= se * was trying to sample/presized timestamps. Could work, but would n= ever be backwards compatible. So, removed that part, and simplified the re= sult. * got some comments, but it is ready. * some bugs, but already fixed. * https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/577 more= review needed. * https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/578 gene= rated IANA Considerations. * does not generate unassigned for gaps * "Any values not mentioned in this table are unassigned" * https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/521 need= s to be merged (timebase) * https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues?q=3Dis= %3Aopen+is%3Aissue+project%3Aietf-wg-cellar%2Fmatroska-specification%2F1+-l= abel%3Amatroska-v5+-label%3A%22control+track%22 this is the list of thing= s that need to be fixed before the document can be finished. * also: PRs: https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specificatio= n/pulls?q=3Dis%3Apr+is%3Aopen+project%3Aietf-wg-cellar%2Fmatroska-specifica= tion%2F1+-label%3Amatroska-v5+-label%3A%22control+track%22+sort%3Acreated-d= esc ### FLAC issues - Discussion on the call * Discussion about Examples, and Numerical Considerations Appendix. * Martijn will merge some items and close some dead issues and post a ne= w version soon. ### FFV1 v4 issues - Discussion on the call * No progress to discuss. ## AOB? * EBML query from Martijn! :::success NEXT MEETING 2022-02-22 :tada: ::: =2D- Michael Richardson . o O ( IPv6 I=C3=B8T consulti= ng ) Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; 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Sun, 30 Jan 2022 02:38:39 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="===============2117142645258129737==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Repository Activity Summary Bot To: cellar@ietf.org Message-Id: <20220130085554.197893A1E22@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 00:55:53 -0800 (PST) Archived-At: Subject: [Cellar] Weekly github digest (CELLAR Activity Summary) X-BeenThere: cellar@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Codec Encoding for LossLess Archiving and Realtime transmission List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 08:55:59 -0000 --===============2117142645258129737== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format="flowed" Events without label "editorial" Issues ------ * ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification (+0/-1/=F0=9F=92=AC1) 1 issues received 1 new comments: - #422 Consider providing a facility for integer-fraction timescales (1 b= y mkver) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/issues/422 [fo= rmat addition] [clarifications] [spec_main] [spec_tags] [matroska-v5]=20 1 issues closed: - Generate the IANA list of Matroska IDs https://github.com/ietf-wg-cella= r/matroska-specification/issues/568 [enhancement] [spec_main] [build system= ]=20 * ietf-wg-cellar/flac-specification (+0/-6/=F0=9F=92=AC7) 5 issues received 7 new comments: - #90 Missing singedness indication (1 by ktmf01) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/flac-specification/issues/90=20 - #88 LPC decoding details missing (3 by fweimer, ktmf01, retokromer) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/flac-specification/issues/88=20 - #87 Missing specification of wasted bits-per-sample value (1 by ktmf01) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/flac-specification/issues/87=20 - #83 Missing specification of bits-per-sample adjustment for subframes (= 1 by ktmf01) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/flac-specification/issues/83=20 - #55 Golomb-Rice (from flac-dev) (1 by ktmf01) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/flac-specification/issues/55=20 6 issues closed: - Golomb-Rice (from flac-dev) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/flac-spec= ification/issues/55=20 - Missing singedness indication https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/flac-sp= ecification/issues/90=20 - Included fixed LPC parameters https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/flac-sp= ecification/issues/89=20 - Missing specification of bits-per-sample adjustment for subframes https= ://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/flac-specification/issues/83=20 - Missing specification of wasted bits-per-sample value https://github.co= m/ietf-wg-cellar/flac-specification/issues/87=20 - APPLICATION metadata block: riff (BWF), aiff and w64 https://github.com= /ietf-wg-cellar/flac-specification/issues/103=20 Pull requests ------------- * ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification (+0/-1/=F0=9F=92=AC4) 3 pull requests received 4 new comments: - #573 avs3 (IEEE 1857.10) video codec mapping (1 by xatabhk) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/573 [enha= ncement] [spec_codecs]=20 - #521 Rewrite timestamp intepretations using ticks (2 by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/521 [clar= ifications]=20 - #437 allow TrackTimestampScale in Matroska v4 (1 by robUx4) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/437 [enha= ncement] [clarifications] [spec_main]=20 1 pull requests merged: - Generate the initial IANA registry for Matroska IDs https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification/pull/578 [buil= d system]=20 * ietf-wg-cellar/flac-specification (+2/-2/=F0=9F=92=AC0) 2 pull requests submitted: - Split section scope between abstract and introduction (by ktmf01) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/flac-specification/pull/125=20 - Add section Numerical Considerations (by ktmf01) https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/flac-specification/pull/124=20 2 pull requests merged: - Replace tables under RESIDUAL with text https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/flac-specification/pull/122=20 - Add a thorough explanation on all four subframe types https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/flac-specification/pull/97=20 Repositories tracked by this digest: ----------------------------------- * https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFV1 * https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/ebml-specification * https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-specification * https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/matroska-test-files * https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/flac-specification * https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/flac-test-files * https://github.com/ietf-wg-cellar/chair-notes --===============2117142645258129737== Content-Type: text/html; 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