From nobody Sat Mar 5 01:36:44 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E0A21B2B10; Sat, 5 Mar 2016 01:36:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=unavailable Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iL-xWZLn24oc; Sat, 5 Mar 2016 01:36:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (relay3-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94C071B2B15; Sat, 5 Mar 2016 01:36:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mfilter23-d.gandi.net (mfilter23-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.151]) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B51AA80D2; Sat, 5 Mar 2016 10:36:37 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter23-d.gandi.net Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([IPv6:::ffff:217.70.183.195]) by mfilter23-d.gandi.net (mfilter23-d.gandi.net [::ffff:10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id St7K2TDTDe_m; Sat, 5 Mar 2016 10:36:35 +0100 (CET) X-Originating-IP: 93.204.214.47 Received: from nar.local (p5DCCD62F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.204.214.47]) (Authenticated sender: cabo@cabo.im) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 54004A80D1; Sat, 5 Mar 2016 10:36:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <56DAA5D7.5030806@tzi.org> Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2016 10:24:39 +0100 From: Carsten Bormann User-Agent: Postbox 4.0.8 (Macintosh/20151105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "ace@ietf.org" , "core@ietf.org WG" , "cose@ietf.org" , "dtls-iot@ietf.org" , "t2trg@irtf.org" X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: [COSE] Constrained Node/Network Cluster @ IETF95: DRAFT AGENDA X-BeenThere: cose@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2016 09:36:42 -0000 Here is my usual eclectic condensed agenda based on the DRAFT AGENDA for IETF95. Remember that there is still quite some potential for changes. All times are COT (UTC-0500), which is the same as US CDT (Chicago or Dallas time) during the meeting (the browser timezone function is not yet reinstated on https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/agenda-utc, for those who want to listen from remote). Grüße, Carsten MONDAY, April 4, 2016 1000-1230 Morning Session I Atlantico C SEC *** ace Authentication and Authorization for Constrained Environments WG Buen Ayre A SEC tokbind Token Binding WG 1400-1530 Afternoon Session I Atlantico C ART uta Using TLS in Applications WG Buen Ayre B INT *** 6tisch IPv6 over the TSCH mode of IEEE 802.15.4e WG Buen Ayre C OPS v6ops IPv6 Operations WG 1550-1720 Afternoon Session II Buen Ayre A INT dnssd Extensions for Scalable DNS Service Discovery WG Pacifico A IRTF maprg Proposed Measurement and Analysis for Protocols Research Group Buen Ayre C RTG babel Babel routing protocol BOF Buen Ayre B SEC *** cose CBOR Object Signing and Encryption WG 1740-1940 Afternoon Session III Quebracho B ART webpush Web-Based Push Notifications WG Buen Ayre C INT *** lpwan Low-Power Wide Area Networks BOF Buen Ayre B OPS anima Autonomic Networking Integrated Model and Approach WG Buen Ayre A SEC acme Automated Certificate Management Environment WG TUESDAY, April 5, 2016 1000-1230 Morning Session I Atlantico C INT arcing Alternative Resolution Contexts for Internet Naming BOF Buen Ayre C OPS v6ops IPv6 Operations WG Buen Ayre A RTG detnet Deterministic Networking WG Atlantico B SEC tls Transport Layer Security WG 1400-1600 Afternoon Session I Pacifico A INT homenet Home Networking WG Atlantico C SEC lurk Limited Use of Remote Keys BOF Buen Ayre B TSV tsvwg Transport Area Working Group WG 1620-1720 Afternoon Session II Buen Ayre C INT intarea Internet Area Working Group WG Quebracho B RTG *** roll Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks WG Buen Ayre B SEC curdle CURves, Deprecating and a Little more Encryption WG 1730-1900 Afternoon Session III Buen Ayre B ART *** core Constrained RESTful Environments WG Pacifico A TSV tsvarea Transport Area Open Meeting WEDNESDAY, April 6, 2016 1000-1230 Morning Session I Buen Ayre C INT 6man IPv6 Maintenance WG Buen Ayre B SEC oauth Web Authorization Protocol WG Atlantico C SEC openpgp Open Specification for Pretty Good Privacy WG - 11:00 - 12:30 Atlantico B TSV rmcat RTP Media Congestion Avoidance Techniques WG 1400-1600 Afternoon Session I Buen Ayre C INT its Intelligent Transportation Systems BOF Quebracho B RTG bier Bit Indexed Explicit Replication WG 1620-1720 Afternoon Session II Buen Ayre C RTG rtgarea Routing Area Open Meeting Buen Ayre B SEC httpauth Hypertext Transfer Protocol Authentication WG Buen Ayre A TSV tsvwg Transport Area Working Group WG THURSDAY, April 7, 2016 1000-1230 Morning Session I Atlantico C SEC tls Transport Layer Security WG Pacifico A TSV accord Alternatives to Content Classification for Operator Resource Deployment BOF 1400-1600 Afternoon Session I Buen Ayre A ART ice Interactive Connectivity Establishment WG Pacifico A SEC saag Security Area Open Meeting 1620-1820 Afternoon Session II Atlantico C ART httpbis Hypertext Transfer Protocol WG Pacifico A INT *** 6lo IPv6 over Networks of Resource-constrained Nodes WG Buen Ayre C TSV tcpinc TCP Increased Security WG 1830-1930 Afternoon Session III Buen Ayre C IRTF*** t2trg Thing-to-Thing Atlantico B OPS anima Autonomic Networking Integrated Model and Approach WG FRIDAY, April 8, 2016 1000-1200 Morning Session I Quebracho B ART *** core Constrained RESTful Environments WG Buen Ayre B IRTF cfrg Crypto Forum Buen Ayre A TSV taps Transport Services WG From nobody Sat Mar 5 01:49:24 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0192E1B2BA7; 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Sat, 5 Mar 2016 10:49:13 +0100 (CET) X-Originating-IP: 93.204.214.47 Received: from nar.local (p5DCCD62F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.204.214.47]) (Authenticated sender: cabo@cabo.im) by relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3BAF641C08A; Sat, 5 Mar 2016 10:49:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <56DAAB99.4030309@tzi.org> Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2016 10:49:13 +0100 From: Carsten Bormann User-Agent: Postbox 4.0.8 (Macintosh/20151105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "ace@ietf.org" , "core@ietf.org WG" , "cose@ietf.org" , "dtls-iot@ietf.org" , "t2trg@irtf.org" References: <56DAA5D7.5030806@tzi.org> In-Reply-To: <56DAA5D7.5030806@tzi.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [COSE] [T2TRG] Constrained Node/Network Cluster @ IETF95: DRAFT AGENDA X-BeenThere: cose@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2016 09:49:22 -0000 Amazing how you find the obvious error only after sending the mail to ten mailing lists... It is of course ART (UTC-0300), which is New Brunswick or Bermuda time. Sorry about that. Carsten Bormann wrote: > All times are COT (UTC-0500), which is the same as US CDT ( Grüße, Carsten From nobody Fri Mar 11 12:22:01 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B28612DB3D for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:22:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.323 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.323 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Qmw8GKh8oyxT for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:21:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-5.mit.edu (dmz-mailsec-scanner-5.mit.edu [18.7.68.34]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 533AF12DB42 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:21:51 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 12074422-59fff7000000244f-6e-56e328deff80 Received: from mailhub-auth-2.mit.edu ( [18.7.62.36]) (using TLS with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 7D.37.09295.ED823E65; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 15:21:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) by mailhub-auth-2.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id u2BKLnLR016722 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 15:21:50 -0500 Received: from artemisia.richer.local (static-96-237-195-53.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [96.237.195.53]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as jricher@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.12.4) with ESMTP id u2BKLmvU016312 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 15:21:49 -0500 From: Justin Richer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <41BACDB6-3994-42A0-9214-2F777DB65675@mit.edu> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 15:21:46 -0500 To: cose@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrFIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUixG6nontP43GYwa7pwhbTtk5ldWD0WLLk J1MAYxSXTUpqTmZZapG+XQJXxu9Jt9kKDrFXTJ9xibGBsYmti5GTQ0LAROLT8x8sXYxcHEIC bUwS3ZNbmCCco4wSG24/ZIRwvjJJ/D+1kQWkhU1AVWL+yltMIDazgLrEn3mXmCFsbYllC1+D 2cICohL3nr1kBbF5Bawkrv85ClbPAtR7oH05UJyDQ0RAUOJupzlEiZ7Eq1uXWSEukpXY/fsR 0wRG3llINsxCsmEWkpYFjMyrGGVTcqt0cxMzc4pTk3WLkxPz8lKLdE31cjNL9FJTSjcxgoPJ RWkH48R/XocYBTgYlXh4P1x7GCbEmlhWXJl7iFGSg0lJlJdB7XGYEF9SfkplRmJxRnxRaU5q 8SFGCQ5mJRFeYXWgHG9KYmVValE+TEqag0VJnDco8liYkEB6YklqdmpqQWoRTFaGg0NJgpcV GDVCgkWp6akVaZk5JQhpJg5OkOE8QMPBaniLCxJzizPTIfKnGHU5Fvy4vZZJiCUvPy9VSpz3 K8gFAiBFGaV5cHNASSDh7WHTV4ziQG8J80aAVPEAEwjcpFdAS5iAlkzoegSypCQRISXVwBjD 5dwg5jJv045lXjUpSzLS9pu32n5c6eLPybht8+qJ/zVjNmZybN/0I+PYMsHLk+7fclgR+7aR c4aKaSu7Q7Vma0px+7TMYOn6g82LrOQN7t0L/dHdEH/rSXPfjBaPIsfyvXLyqWXtaf3/8laZ dy1vONZq9aex5ZZ0nEhv2bqPtjWlcgfNlFiKMxINtZiLihMBmELfLd0CAAA= Archived-At: Subject: [COSE] Buenos Aires X-BeenThere: cose@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 20:22:00 -0000 Hello COSE WG, It turns out that not one but both of your chairs will be unable to = attend the meeting in Buenos Aires. As such, we want to get a feel for = two possible options: 1) We have the meeting as planned, with a substitute chair. We=E2=80=99ve= identified a sufficiently disinterested volunteer for the role.=20 2) We skip Buenos Aires, but WG members in attendance are free to meet = informally during the week. We=E2=80=99d give up our room and slot, = since there=E2=80=99s some contention for space right now. Given the heavily-encamped contention that this group has seen in the = past, I=E2=80=99m personally in favor of #2; but we would be willing to = continue the meeting, with all decisions being made ultimately back on = the list. Both the chairs and the AD=E2=80=99s are ultimately fine with either = option, so we=E2=80=99d like to see what the community thinks. =E2=80=94 Justin & Kepeng, your COSE chairs= From nobody Fri Mar 11 13:20:10 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5AEF12DA08 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:20:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.92 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.92 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Kufo91AaaG8K for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:20:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (relay2-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67E4112D8B3 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:20:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mfilter10-d.gandi.net (mfilter10-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.139]) by relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C599C5A55; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 22:20:04 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter10-d.gandi.net Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net ([IPv6:::ffff:217.70.183.194]) by mfilter10-d.gandi.net (mfilter10-d.gandi.net [::ffff:10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zMT0T3N7vFaL; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 22:20:03 +0100 (CET) X-Originating-IP: 93.204.214.47 Received: from nar.local (p5DCCD62F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.204.214.47]) (Authenticated sender: cabo@cabo.im) by relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DDEDAC5A56; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 22:20:02 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <56E33680.6050304@tzi.org> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 22:20:00 +0100 From: Carsten Bormann User-Agent: Postbox 4.0.8 (Macintosh/20151105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Justin Richer References: <41BACDB6-3994-42A0-9214-2F777DB65675@mit.edu> In-Reply-To: <41BACDB6-3994-42A0-9214-2F777DB65675@mit.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Cc: cose@ietf.org Subject: Re: [COSE] Buenos Aires X-BeenThere: cose@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 21:20:08 -0000 I'll be there, and I'd prefer a meeting in a meeting room with a projector and an agenda. Waiting for Berlin for the next f2f meeting doesn't thrill me; we'll have the RFCs published by then, no? Grüße, Carsten Justin Richer wrote: > Hello COSE WG, > > It turns out that not one but both of your chairs will be unable to attend the meeting in Buenos Aires. As such, we want to get a feel for two possible options: > > 1) We have the meeting as planned, with a substitute chair. We’ve identified a sufficiently disinterested volunteer for the role. > 2) We skip Buenos Aires, but WG members in attendance are free to meet informally during the week. We’d give up our room and slot, since there’s some contention for space right now. > > Given the heavily-encamped contention that this group has seen in the past, I’m personally in favor of #2; but we would be willing to continue the meeting, with all decisions being made ultimately back on the list. > > Both the chairs and the AD’s are ultimately fine with either option, so we’d like to see what the community thinks. > > — Justin & Kepeng, your COSE chairs > _______________________________________________ > COSE mailing list > COSE@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose > > From nobody Fri Mar 11 13:30:01 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D2712DC1F for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:30:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.222 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.222 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hRcbNwMC0Num for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:29:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-2.mit.edu (dmz-mailsec-scanner-2.mit.edu [18.9.25.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44AC012DBB0 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:29:55 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 1209190d-e37ff70000004dee-c1-56e338d1e182 Received: from mailhub-auth-2.mit.edu ( [18.7.62.36]) (using TLS with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 41.C1.19950.1D833E65; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:29:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) by mailhub-auth-2.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id u2BLTrWq028901; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:29:53 -0500 Received: from artemisia.richer.local (static-96-237-195-53.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [96.237.195.53]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as jricher@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.12.4) with ESMTP id u2BLTpm0008925 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:29:52 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: Justin Richer In-Reply-To: <56E33680.6050304@tzi.org> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:29:50 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <41BACDB6-3994-42A0-9214-2F777DB65675@mit.edu> <56E33680.6050304@tzi.org> To: Carsten Bormann X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFnrNIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUixG6nonvR4nGYwc2t+hZHptxltZi2dSqr A5PHkiU/mTymLcoMYIrisklJzcksSy3St0vgyph86zdjwRzeijO/DrA2MF7k6mLk5JAQMJFY 8X4ZaxcjF4eQQBuTxNE/pxkhnI2MEtfaLrNDOA+BMnPOsoC0MAuoS/yZd4kZxOYV0JN4desy K4gtLKAgsbX3PzuIzSagKjF9TQsTiM0JVP+t9x9bFyMHBwtQfMXCQIgxghKrGyexQ9jaEssW voYaaSVx59N/RhBbSCBUYt+ZBWBrRQSUJC5cXMMGcbWsxO7fj5gmMArMQnLRLCQXzUIydgEj 8ypG2ZTcKt3cxMyc4tRk3eLkxLy81CJdI73czBK91JTSTYygMOWU5N3B+O+u1yFGAQ5GJR5e DZPHYUKsiWXFlbmHGCU5mJREeRnUgEJ8SfkplRmJxRnxRaU5qcWHGCU4mJVEeFcaAuV4UxIr q1KL8mFS0hwsSuK8MTePhgkJpCeWpGanphakFsFkZTg4lCR4OYHxKCRYlJqeWpGWmVOCkGbi 4AQZzgM0/LQ5yPDigsTc4sx0iPwpRkUpcd6DIAkBkERGaR5cLyiNJLw9bPqKURzoFWHeTJAq HmAKgut+BTSYCWjwhK5HIINLEhFSUg2MRRnqCev3bgrlubbxSIVH+v1jqZemNinl2W9Rebr3 7Lmwg7FKuw3fbXlyK+qeq6If/xEhx1089jVt0fU8D0ILzuSsSLGccP5BrseKUh8f67vfvodP VX+7wophZpSVdf2koy0qrk+y5y/9WM2z69A1kcL9bH7drzz5Yzs07q83svq49UpNZYu5Ektx RqKhFnNRcSIAUK5ojv4CAAA= Archived-At: Cc: cose@ietf.org Subject: Re: [COSE] Buenos Aires X-BeenThere: cose@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 21:30:00 -0000 Carsten, we haven=E2=80=99t gone to WGLC yet and there are still a = number of open issues. I don=E2=80=99t see RFCs coming from this group = by Berlin. =E2=80=94 Justin > On Mar 11, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: >=20 > I'll be there, and I'd prefer a meeting in a meeting room with a > projector and an agenda. Waiting for Berlin for the next f2f meeting > doesn't thrill me; we'll have the RFCs published by then, no? >=20 > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten >=20 >=20 > Justin Richer wrote: >> Hello COSE WG, >>=20 >> It turns out that not one but both of your chairs will be unable to = attend the meeting in Buenos Aires. As such, we want to get a feel for = two possible options: >>=20 >> 1) We have the meeting as planned, with a substitute chair. We=E2=80=99= ve identified a sufficiently disinterested volunteer for the role.=20 >> 2) We skip Buenos Aires, but WG members in attendance are free to = meet informally during the week. We=E2=80=99d give up our room and slot, = since there=E2=80=99s some contention for space right now. >>=20 >> Given the heavily-encamped contention that this group has seen in the = past, I=E2=80=99m personally in favor of #2; but we would be willing to = continue the meeting, with all decisions being made ultimately back on = the list. >>=20 >> Both the chairs and the AD=E2=80=99s are ultimately fine with either = option, so we=E2=80=99d like to see what the community thinks. >>=20 >> =E2=80=94 Justin & Kepeng, your COSE chairs >> _______________________________________________ >> COSE mailing list >> COSE@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose >>=20 >>=20 From nobody Fri Mar 11 13:39:23 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E7C12DBC5 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:39:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eMdcCuRX09hT for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:39:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp1.pacifier.net (smtp1.pacifier.net [64.255.237.171]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5EE7112DB4F for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:39:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from hebrews (winery.augustcellars.com [206.212.239.129]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jimsch@nwlink.com) by smtp1.pacifier.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 97F182CA41; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:39:19 -0800 (PST) From: "Jim Schaad" To: "'Justin Richer'" , "'Carsten Bormann'" References: <41BACDB6-3994-42A0-9214-2F777DB65675@mit.edu> <56E33680.6050304@tzi.org> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:39:19 -0800 Message-ID: <027b01d17bde$78193890$684ba9b0$@augustcellars.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AQIXZUvCMhmBZy6099S1RCzq8lZLAwG418JyAhr4FUCeqlPB0A== Archived-At: Cc: cose@ietf.org Subject: Re: [COSE] Buenos Aires X-BeenThere: cose@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 21:39:22 -0000 I plan to have RFCs by Berlin even if the chairs do not. > -----Original Message----- > From: COSE [mailto:cose-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Justin Richer > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 1:30 PM > To: Carsten Bormann > Cc: cose@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [COSE] Buenos Aires >=20 > Carsten, we haven=E2=80=99t gone to WGLC yet and there are still a = number of open > issues. I don=E2=80=99t see RFCs coming from this group by Berlin. >=20 > =E2=80=94 Justin >=20 >=20 > > On Mar 11, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: > > > > I'll be there, and I'd prefer a meeting in a meeting room with a > > projector and an agenda. Waiting for Berlin for the next f2f = meeting > > doesn't thrill me; we'll have the RFCs published by then, no? > > > > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten > > > > > > Justin Richer wrote: > >> Hello COSE WG, > >> > >> It turns out that not one but both of your chairs will be unable to = attend the > meeting in Buenos Aires. As such, we want to get a feel for two = possible > options: > >> > >> 1) We have the meeting as planned, with a substitute chair. = We=E2=80=99ve identified > a sufficiently disinterested volunteer for the role. > >> 2) We skip Buenos Aires, but WG members in attendance are free to = meet > informally during the week. We=E2=80=99d give up our room and slot, = since there=E2=80=99s some > contention for space right now. > >> > >> Given the heavily-encamped contention that this group has seen in = the past, > I=E2=80=99m personally in favor of #2; but we would be willing to = continue the meeting, > with all decisions being made ultimately back on the list. > >> > >> Both the chairs and the AD=E2=80=99s are ultimately fine with = either option, so we=E2=80=99d > like to see what the community thinks. > >> > >> =E2=80=94 Justin & Kepeng, your COSE chairs > >> _______________________________________________ > >> COSE mailing list > >> COSE@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose > >> > >> >=20 > _______________________________________________ > COSE mailing list > COSE@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose From nobody Fri Mar 11 15:08:05 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cose@ietf.org Delivered-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C5E12DF0B; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 15:05:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "\"IETF Secretariat\"" To: , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.16.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160311230545.15028.15213.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 15:05:45 -0800 Archived-At: Cc: Kathleen.Moriarty.ietf@gmail.com, cose@ietf.org Subject: [COSE] cose - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 95 X-BeenThere: cose@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 23:05:45 -0000 Dear Kepeng Li, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. cose Session 1 (1:30:00) Monday, Afternoon Session II 1550-1720 Room Name: Quebracho B size: 75 --------------------------------------------- Request Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption Area Name: Security Area Session Requester: Kepeng Li Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 1.5 Hours Number of Attendees: 50 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: ace core oauth jose abfab sacm radext dime tls Second Priority: dane httpauth kitten dice saag Third Priority: httpbis sidr Special Requests: --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Fri Mar 11 22:55:11 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E60712DAF2; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 22:55:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.92 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.92 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jZALcRwo5nZg; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 22:55:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (relay2-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD72E12D511; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 22:55:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mfilter35-d.gandi.net (mfilter35-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.166]) by relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EFF4C5A4E; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:55:03 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter35-d.gandi.net Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net ([IPv6:::ffff:217.70.183.194]) by mfilter35-d.gandi.net (mfilter35-d.gandi.net [::ffff:10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hMe2WwyJbewK; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:55:01 +0100 (CET) X-Originating-IP: 93.204.214.47 Received: from nar.local (p5DCCD62F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.204.214.47]) (Authenticated sender: cabo@cabo.im) by relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 61C27C5A4F; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:54:50 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <56E3BD3B.7050606@tzi.org> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 07:54:51 +0100 From: Carsten Bormann User-Agent: Postbox 4.0.8 (Macintosh/20151105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "ace@ietf.org" , "core@ietf.org WG" , "cose@ietf.org" , "dtls-iot@ietf.org" , "t2trg@irtf.org" X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: [COSE] Constrained Node/Network Cluster @ IETF95: Final agenda X-BeenThere: cose@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 06:55:07 -0000 Here is my usual eclectic condensed agenda based on the "final" agenda for IETF95. Compared to the draft agenda, this mostly has room changes and small adjustments to the session timings. (Also, taps is now on top of ace and httpbis is on top of cose.) Wednesday is still constrained-free, as are Tuesday and Thursday morning; time to go to, say, tls, homenet, oauth, saag. Remember that late changes still can happen. All times are ART (UTC-0300), which is the same as New Brunswick or Bermuda daylight savings time (ADT) (the browser timezone function is not yet reinstated on https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/agenda-utc, for those who want to listen from remote). Grüße, Carsten MONDAY, April 4, 2016 1000-1230 Morning Session I Atlantico C SEC *** ace Authentication and Authorization for Constrained Environments WG Buen Ayre B SEC tokbind Token Binding WG Buen Ayre A TSV taps Transport Services WG 1400-1530 Afternoon Session I Atlantico C ART uta Using TLS in Applications WG Buen Ayre B INT *** 6tisch IPv6 over the TSCH mode of IEEE 802.15.4e WG Buen Ayre C OPS v6ops IPv6 Operations WG 1550-1720 Afternoon Session II Atlantico B ART httpbis Hypertext Transfer Protocol WG Buen Ayre B INT dnssd Extensions for Scalable DNS Service Discovery WG Pacifico A IRTF maprg Proposed Measurement and Analysis for Protocols Research Group Buen Ayre C RTG babel Babel routing protocol BOF Quebracho B SEC *** cose CBOR Object Signing and Encryption WG 1740-1940 Afternoon Session III Quebracho B ART webpush Web-Based Push Notifications WG Buen Ayre C INT *** lpwan Low-Power Wide Area Networks BOF Buen Ayre B OPS anima Autonomic Networking Integrated Model and Approach WG Buen Ayre A SEC acme Automated Certificate Management Environment WG TUESDAY, April 5, 2016 1000-1230 Morning Session I Atlantico C INT arcing Alternative Resolution Contexts for Internet Naming BOF Buen Ayre C OPS v6ops IPv6 Operations WG Buen Ayre A RTG detnet Deterministic Networking WG Atlantico B SEC tls Transport Layer Security WG 1400-1600 Afternoon Session I Pacifico A INT homenet Home Networking WG Atlantico C SEC lurk Limited Use of Remote Keys BOF Buen Ayre B TSV tsvwg Transport Area Working Group WG 1620-1720 Afternoon Session II Buen Ayre C INT intarea Internet Area Working Group WG Quebracho B RTG *** roll Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks WG Buen Ayre B SEC curdle CURves, Deprecating and a Little more Encryption WG 1740-1910 Afternoon Session III Buen Ayre B ART *** core Constrained RESTful Environments WG Pacifico A TSV tsvarea Transport Area Open Meeting WEDNESDAY, April 6, 2016 1000-1230 Morning Session I Buen Ayre C INT 6man IPv6 Maintenance WG Buen Ayre B SEC oauth Web Authorization Protocol WG Atlantico C SEC openpgp Open Specification for Pretty Good Privacy WG - 11:00 - 12:30 Atlantico B TSV rmcat RTP Media Congestion Avoidance Techniques WG 1400-1600 Afternoon Session I Buen Ayre C INT its Intelligent Transportation Systems BOF Quebracho B RTG bier Bit Indexed Explicit Replication WG 1620-1720 Afternoon Session II Atlantico C RTG rtgarea Routing Area Open Meeting Buen Ayre B SEC httpauth Hypertext Transfer Protocol Authentication WG Buen Ayre A TSV tsvwg Transport Area Working Group WG THURSDAY, April 7, 2016 1000-1230 Morning Session I Atlantico C SEC tls Transport Layer Security WG Pacifico A TSV accord Alternatives to Content Classification for Operator Resource Deployment BOF 1400-1600 Afternoon Session I Buen Ayre A ART ice Interactive Connectivity Establishment WG Pacifico A SEC saag Security Area Open Meeting 1620-1720 Afternoon Session II Buen Ayre C IRTF*** t2trg Thing-to-Thing Atlantico C OPS anima Autonomic Networking Integrated Model and Approach WG 1730-1930 Afternoon Session III Atlantico C ART httpbis Hypertext Transfer Protocol WG Pacifico A INT *** 6lo IPv6 over Networks of Resource-constrained Nodes WG Buen Ayre C TSV tcpinc TCP Increased Security WG FRIDAY, April 8, 2016 1000-1200 Morning Session I Buen Ayre B ART *** core Constrained RESTful Environments WG Buen Ayre A IRTF cfrg Crypto Forum From nobody Mon Mar 14 01:21:38 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E1012D51B for ; 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Mon, 14 Mar 2016 01:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.167] ([85.235.10.186]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id aa9sm3438070lbc.16.2016.03.14.01.21.32 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 14 Mar 2016 01:21:32 -0700 (PDT) To: cose@ietf.org References: <41BACDB6-3994-42A0-9214-2F777DB65675@mit.edu> From: Ludwig Seitz Message-ID: <56E6748B.1020807@sics.se> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 09:21:31 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <41BACDB6-3994-42A0-9214-2F777DB65675@mit.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [COSE] Buenos Aires X-BeenThere: cose@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 08:21:37 -0000 On 2016-03-11 21:21, Justin Richer wrote: > Hello COSE WG, > > It turns out that not one but both of your chairs will be unable to > attend the meeting in Buenos Aires. As such, we want to get a feel > for two possible options: > > 1) We have the meeting as planned, with a substitute chair. We’ve > identified a sufficiently disinterested volunteer for the role. > > 2) We skip Buenos Aires, but WG members in attendance are free to meet > informally during the week. We’d give up our room and slot, since > there’s some contention for space right now. > > Given the heavily-encamped contention that this group has seen in the > past, I’m personally in favor of #2; but we would be willing to > continue the meeting, with all decisions being made ultimately back > on the list. > > Both the chairs and the AD’s are ultimately fine with either option, > so we’d like to see what the community thinks. > > — Justin & Kepeng, your COSE chairs > _______________________________________________ COSE mailing list > COSE@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose > Since I cannot make it to IETF 95 either I prefer option 1, this way at least I can remotely attend the session, which is a bit difficult with unofficial corridor meetings. /Ludwig -- Ludwig Seitz, PhD SICS Swedish ICT AB Ideon Science Park Building Beta 2 Scheelevägen 17 SE-223 70 Lund Phone +46(0)70-349 92 51 http://www.sics.se From nobody Mon Mar 14 05:33:43 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2CC312D5B0 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 05:33:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.222 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.222 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CG1-rfYV8BXn for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 05:33:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-5.mit.edu (dmz-mailsec-scanner-5.mit.edu [18.7.68.34]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 032CE12D50A for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 05:33:29 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 12074422-59fff7000000244f-35-56e6af9823fc Received: from mailhub-auth-2.mit.edu ( [18.7.62.36]) (using TLS with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 6B.6F.09295.89FA6E65; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 08:33:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) by mailhub-auth-2.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id u2ECXS3Y016007 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 08:33:28 -0400 Received: from [192.168.128.57] (static-96-237-195-53.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [96.237.195.53]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as jricher@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.12.4) with ESMTP id u2ECXQZs006931 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2016 08:33:28 -0400 To: cose@ietf.org References: <41BACDB6-3994-42A0-9214-2F777DB65675@mit.edu> From: Justin Richer Message-ID: <56E6AF95.8090508@mit.edu> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 08:33:25 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <41BACDB6-3994-42A0-9214-2F777DB65675@mit.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFrrKIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUixG6nojtj/bMwg2XLjCymbZ3K6sDosWTJ T6YAxigum5TUnMyy1CJ9uwSujDdbzQq+c1b8ODKZtYHxH3sXIyeHhICJxLU1k4FsLg4hgTYm ibtTd7NCOEcZJaY3tkM575kkOndPYARpERZQkNja+x+ohYNDREBQ4m6nOUhYSMBKomXlBVYQ m01AVWL6mhYmEJtXQE3iz/WdLCA2C1D83M9WsBpRgRiJ4+/OMULUCEqcnPkErIZTwFri1JqX YDazgJnEvM0PmSFseYnmrbOZJzDyz0LSMgtJ2SwkZQsYmVcxyqbkVunmJmbmFKcm6xYnJ+bl pRbpmurlZpbopaaUbmIEh56L0g7Gif+8DjEKcDAq8fD+WPM0TIg1say4MvcQoyQHk5Io79Rp z8KE+JLyUyozEosz4otKc1KLDzFKcDArifCuWQeU401JrKxKLcqHSUlzsCiJ8wZFHgsTEkhP LEnNTk0tSC2CycpwcChJ8N4CaRQsSk1PrUjLzClBSDNxcIIM5wEavm0tyPDigsTc4sx0iPwp RkUpcd5GkGYBkERGaR5cLyg1JLw9bPqKURzoFWFeTWCiEOIBphW47ldAg5mABveEgw0uSURI STUwFu6yv9e54+cl07DXl7Wfn9tVub/pzK6QuFzORV5/zmXlCc113HZm3T+tbSt0eBZkMOiq q/b4pH7s9NjWx2ybuiE13Pe0Ugnb4p3Tvz1Ueuz7don/5Lcb9VzvaNlcFjKffrZEoLF1/5T+ 3V8iNS3t80Xn3JjluVjHjOnewX96J8O8Fmd8j/frV2Ipzkg01GIuKk4EACTC/zToAgAA Archived-At: Subject: Re: [COSE] Buenos Aires X-BeenThere: cose@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 12:33:33 -0000 We will have the meeting as scheduled. Sean Turner will be the acting chair during the meeting. Kepeng and I will dial in remotely. -- Justin & Kepeng, your COSE chairs On 3/11/2016 3:21 PM, Justin Richer wrote: > Hello COSE WG, > > It turns out that not one but both of your chairs will be unable to attend the meeting in Buenos Aires. As such, we want to get a feel for two possible options: > > 1) We have the meeting as planned, with a substitute chair. We’ve identified a sufficiently disinterested volunteer for the role. > 2) We skip Buenos Aires, but WG members in attendance are free to meet informally during the week. We’d give up our room and slot, since there’s some contention for space right now. > > Given the heavily-encamped contention that this group has seen in the past, I’m personally in favor of #2; but we would be willing to continue the meeting, with all decisions being made ultimately back on the list. > > Both the chairs and the AD’s are ultimately fine with either option, so we’d like to see what the community thinks. > > — Justin & Kepeng, your COSE chairs > _______________________________________________ > COSE mailing list > COSE@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose From nobody Wed Mar 16 12:12:20 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8E012D675 for ; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 12:12:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.303 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.303 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x1aYuT9b15KQ for ; 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Wed, 16 Mar 2016 15:11:55 -0400 From: Justin Richer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 15:11:53 -0400 To: cose@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrBIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUixG6novtn/cswg4ULGS2mbZ3K6sDosWTJ T6YAxigum5TUnMyy1CJ9uwSujHcvelkLdjBVNP48xdjA+Iuxi5GDQ0LARGLZB6MuRi4OIYE2 JokzL/vZuhg5gZyjjBJzmqQhEl+ZJJ61PgRLsAmoSsxfeYsJxGYWUJf4M+8SM4StLbFs4Wsw W1hAQeLMmxZGEJtXwEpi7bSbYHEWoN5/85cygSwWERCUuNtpDlGiJ/Hq1mVWEFtCQFZi9+9H TBMYeWch2TALyYZZSFoWMDKvYpRNya3SzU3MzClOTdYtTk7My0st0jXSy80s0UtNKd3ECAok TkneHYz/7nodYhTgYFTi4d2R9CJMiDWxrLgy9xCjJAeTkiiv/ZqXYUJ8SfkplRmJxRnxRaU5 qcWHGCU4mJVEeGfNBsrxpiRWVqUW5cOkpDlYlMR5Y24eDRMSSE8sSc1OTS1ILYLJynBwKEnw blgH1ChYlJqeWpGWmVOCkGbi4AQZzgM0/CJIDW9xQWJucWY6RP4Uoy7Hgh+31zIJseTl56VK ifMGgRQJgBRllObBzQElgIS3h01fMYoDvSXM+xykigeYPOAmvQJawgS0pCf8GciSkkSElFQD 43Y/60rBpyfWt8rUPRZcU5UV/WuuVuafuORI2+UK10x4DQs/pASdl43+oH600+n6w2db7+Ys FNvLyLIvpWt6qc7KnXGPsp2ZOn8nhiauOvFebfl0q0nON99eci8yXcw5c6qr3g2rkp0uKzZo Pbn9XnTujxS9x9PuJKzYsFDLJMS+lUlskk7HAyWW4oxEQy3mouJEAMo+2mzbAgAA Archived-At: Subject: [COSE] Agenda for Buenos Aires X-BeenThere: cose@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 19:12:08 -0000 The chairs are now soliciting input for the Buenos Aires meeting agenda. = We would like to keep most of the meeting dedicated to discussing open = issues on the current COSE draft, and Jim has volunteered to take a few = minutes to talk about the algorithm extension draft as well.=20 =E2=80=94 Justin= From nobody Mon Mar 21 12:40:20 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A15C412D7A8 for ; 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charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AQHopqYaBNELjEaOddM3tY+ayZ5y0582BaYQ Archived-At: Subject: [COSE] FW: New Version Notification for draft-schaad-cose-alg-01.txt X-BeenThere: cose@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 19:40:18 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org] > Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 12:23 PM > To: Jim Schaad > Subject: New Version Notification for draft-schaad-cose-alg-01.txt >=20 >=20 > A new version of I-D, draft-schaad-cose-alg-01.txt has been = successfully > submitted by Jim Schaad and posted to the IETF repository. >=20 > Name: draft-schaad-cose-alg > Revision: 01 > Title: CBOR Encoded Message Syntax: Additional Algorithms > Document date: 2016-03-21 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 17 > URL: = https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-schaad-cose-alg-01.txt > Status: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schaad-cose-alg/ > Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schaad-cose-alg-01 > Diff: = https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-schaad-cose-alg-01 >=20 > Abstract: > This document defines the identifiers and usage for a set of > additional cryptographic algorithms in the CBOR Encoded Message > (COSE) Syntax. >=20 > The algorithms setup in this docment are: RSA-PSS, RSA-OAEP, .... > !!TBD!! >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of = submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >=20 > The IETF Secretariat From nobody Mon Mar 21 16:33:43 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cose@ietf.org Delivered-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AEFF12D10B; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 16:33:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.17.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160321233342.10906.2585.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 16:33:42 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: cose@ietf.org Subject: [COSE] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cose-msg-11.txt X-BeenThere: cose@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 23:33:42 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the CBOR Object Signing and Encryption of the IETF. Title : CBOR Encoded Message Syntax Author : Jim Schaad Filename : draft-ietf-cose-msg-11.txt Pages : 111 Date : 2016-03-21 Abstract: Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR) is data format designed for small code size and small message size. There is a need for the ability to have the basic security services defined for this data format. This document specifies processing for signatures, message authentication codes, and encryption using CBOR. This document also specifies a representation for cryptographic keys using CBOR. 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Wed, 23 Mar 2016 20:27:14 +0200 (EET) Received: from LK-Perkele-V2 (87-100-143-35.bb.dnainternet.fi [87.100.143.35]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by welho-smtp2.welho.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4BA5421C; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 20:27:14 +0200 (EET) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 20:27:12 +0200 From: Ilari Liusvaara To: =?utf-8?B?R8O2cmFu?= Selander Message-ID: <20160323182712.GA7758@LK-Perkele-V2.elisa-laajakaista.fi> References: <20160321165731.31915.97138.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Sender: ilariliusvaara@welho.com Archived-At: Cc: "cose@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [COSE] FW: New Version Notification for draft-selander-ace-cose-ecdhe-00.txt X-BeenThere: cose@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 18:27:29 -0000 On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 07:32:06AM +0000, Göran Selander wrote: > Dear COSE and ACE, > > We have submitted a draft on ephemeral-ephemeral Diffie-Hellman key > exchange embedded in COSE objects. > > Two versions are presented, one authenticated with pre-shared keys, and > one authenticated with static ECDH public keys. The keys used to > authenticate the DH-exchange can be obtained as defined in the ACE > solution. Looks like the ECDH-SS variant is vulernable to KCI (e.g attacker knowing s can authenticate as arbitrary client). Also, that g^xs is involved makes it highly important that that invalid-curve attacks are properly defended against (point validation or ladders with twist-secure curves). -Ilari From nobody Wed Mar 23 15:59:52 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3431712D83D for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:59:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.221 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.221 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qOo3MgJsInnZ for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sesbmg23.ericsson.net (sesbmg23.ericsson.net [193.180.251.37]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71DE312DA10 for ; 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charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Here is a proposal for the agenda of the upcoming meeting: * Opening & Welcome - 5 min (Sean) * ACE Object Security - 10 min (Goran) - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-selander-ace-object-security-04 * Ephemeral Diffie-Hellman Over COSE =E2=80=93 10 min (Goran) =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-selander-ace-cose-ecdhe/ * COSE Additional Algorithms - 20 min (Jim) =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schaad-cose-alg/ * CBOR Encoded Message Syntax - 40 min (Jim) =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-msg/ * Wrap-up - 5 min (Sean) Note that we arrange our WG draft as the last one, which means editor can get all the remaining time to go through the open issues. Also note that Sean Turner will be the acting chair during the meeting. Justin and I will dial in remotely. The latest version can be found at: https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/agenda/agenda-95-cose Kind Regards Kepeng & Justin, your COSE chairs --B_3541966549_999154 Content-type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,

Here is a proposal for the agenda of the upcoming meet= ing:

*&nb= sp;Opening & Welcom= e - 5 min (Sean)

* ACE Object Security - 10 min (Goran)
<= div> - https://tools= .ietf.org/html/draft-selander-ace-object-security-04
<= div>
* Ephemeral Diffie-Hellman Over CO= SE – 10 min (Goran)

*= COSE Additional Algorithms - 20 min (Jim)

* CBOR Encoded Message Syntax&nbs= p;- 40 min (Jim)

* Wrap-up - 5 min (Sean)

Note that we arrange our WG draft as the last one, which means editor c= an get all the remaining time to go through the open issues.

= Also note that Sean Turner will be the acting chair dur= ing the meeting. Justin and I will dial in remotely.

The latest version can be found at:=

<= div>Kind Regards<= /span>
Kepeng = & Justin, your COSE chairs


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--B_3541966549_999154-- From nobody Sun Mar 27 09:55:13 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B106B12D1C8 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 09:55:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wkBJqyX0IPlf for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 09:55:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from welho-filter1.welho.com (welho-filter1.welho.com [83.102.41.23]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E7B012D1A5 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 09:55:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by welho-filter1.welho.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A996932DA for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 19:55:06 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at pp.htv.fi Received: from welho-smtp1.welho.com ([IPv6:::ffff:83.102.41.84]) by localhost (welho-filter1.welho.com [::ffff:83.102.41.23]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0_zBeMMaJZu5 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 19:55:06 +0300 (EEST) Received: from LK-Perkele-V2 (87-100-143-35.bb.dnainternet.fi [87.100.143.35]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by welho-smtp1.welho.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6C51FC4 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 19:55:06 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 19:55:03 +0300 From: Ilari Liusvaara To: "cose@ietf.org" Message-ID: <20160327165502.GA19553@LK-Perkele-V2.elisa-laajakaista.fi> References: <20160321165731.31915.97138.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <20160323182712.GA7758@LK-Perkele-V2.elisa-laajakaista.fi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Sender: ilariliusvaara@welho.com Archived-At: Subject: Re: [COSE] FW: New Version Notification for draft-selander-ace-cose-ecdhe-00.txt X-BeenThere: cose@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 16:55:11 -0000 On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 11:49:58AM +0000, Göran Selander wrote: > Now I’ve lost all illusions of saving in on signatures. We’ll replace the > MACs with signatures together with some other changes and submit a new > version as soon as the submission tool reopens. > > Göran The off-list message reply bounced, so briefly... - Message 2 needs a MAC, or there will be identity misbinding attack. - It must be infeasible to derive MAC key from key exposed to the protocol running on top, or vice versa, or generic security breaks. - KEA+... While searching what it is I ran into mention about "KEA+ patents" (with no further info). - If attacker learns the dlog of client's DH key used in key exchange, they can impersonate the client (this seems fundamental to all two- step protocols). There might be other attacks too... -Ilari From nobody Sun Mar 27 12:34:56 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B4A312D530 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 12:34:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.611 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.611 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JGZU8NWaWEsJ for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 12:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14EE812D526 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 12:34:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.10.140] ([80.92.115.95]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lu874-1ZmUH30DRe-011WBo; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 21:34:39 +0200 To: Kepeng Li , "cose@ietf.org" References: From: Hannes Tschofenig Openpgp: id=071A97A9ECBADCA8E31E678554D9CEEF4D776BC9 Message-ID: <56F835CF.8000402@gmx.net> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 21:34:39 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Sl5uHw6WUUkn4gW0QcXVQK5NafnSqLGrX" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:nv3qnQibcSsLO3IL0ylFdnSYTZvd99mMESXShPm2pQu9NyBEryr Xj5eZG4GjexwmsV1NA8NHPuivsjf2hl4i23n+lGZKfKy7icADFTuq/khy4QRyMj+wtIaYvx EQxNuMObMI26WbK8mq7TFTrrUaXuoQjzfqqmRz5pyE3+blZo49CrUcc5SGwTqY+zft9VauS myjssT9CItnSiAF6KemAA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:J1vDqYDFn70=:NHIqWcTD1ZGmLTi0ETGa88 TGccAAzDINeKaeraNYKGMG4nez65N2UTI0jdB/l64mIxIkyMj5XQUsabUGLMu0w4dQ4E/9BZd k45UykFt/LpwkJP4QLMQs5oMj2Mtf25ifW6GnqOzpm1E2VUZlzvAalRdRX+E2r1erltJHktPE RHXhdYYc8FfFuT06vUwVs8tZhZUgc2tmi6un6lv09+zlueXv0eGwRtkeShBvVbG7wO9c/QD7i mm1MPX38/qbQujhSNGrrqReBdwlPis6xtAi60DbitATZ7P8QkxowyVSPMXWOhibybdFaWkk3z ooYxhv7PQcsRONKQjXeTDFCFFjJl8DtPE+dZ0ujRBshJLZ9CRSi1vjpo2iIR8Tp3GXDMlPDjw SnTc1dq0NfO0hEtUO8MNCrX15dpkc96nPYs0OMAGkg1qF4eefZXt4Fptr4EhNrDM8zY3hXsOd u6XTbgIa1LZg6peKNX3Lb6HDt3sfReGMOtZAg29rZmI7l5q5Fn/FBfNuh9h4QZiLoJhYk2Gbg wXh99fU+yBsTgu2xR8CHNC5bWNIVEx/MFHyA/dYyWQDDyA4MWvl9KmTo8jNZ5z6+aZ//VJzkh /zAtq21KVcU2DKLeKkfUwbq8gMh1KG45T+hMDmjxc7Sij5r5zHK+dh1rct4f5oX0iZaZQ+qs0 HSBmlZcdlq87UCeHbHSIuOnKscpSIcAi2iDORoFGzskA6d+gvT9YLkbHWn+s86eI7W7YvXeji 9C+SqyUeTsElIBj0wDS6kGhQKgdirvfzR1Pxqf/EjMt/STk0UPb50CzC69s= Archived-At: Cc: Sean Turner , Justin Richer Subject: Re: [COSE] Agenda proposal X-BeenThere: cose@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 19:34:54 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --Sl5uHw6WUUkn4gW0QcXVQK5NafnSqLGrX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Kepeng, the working group document needs to be the first item on the agenda. I don't think that the ACE Object Security belong to this group and I hate to hear the same presentation given in multiple groups. We had discussions in the ACE working group about the best working group where this work should be done and the decision was to do it in CORE. Hence, we should not have presentations about it in other groups and I was actually hoping that Goeran would re-submit the draft with the correct file name so that the working group can be identified correctly. Ciao Hannes On 03/27/2016 05:35 PM, Kepeng Li wrote: > Hi all, >=20 > Here is a proposal for the agenda of the upcoming meeting: >=20 > * Opening & Welcome - 5 min (Sean) >=20 > * ACE Object Security - 10 min (Goran) > - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-selander-ace-object-security-04 >=20 > * Ephemeral Diffie-Hellman Over COSE =96 10 min (Goran) > =97 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-selander-ace-cose-ecdhe/ >=20 > * COSE Additional Algorithms - 20 min (Jim) > =97 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schaad-cose-alg/ >=20 > * CBOR Encoded Message Syntax - 40 min (Jim) > =97 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-msg/ >=20 > * Wrap-up - 5 min (Sean) >=20 > Note that we arrange our WG draft as the last one, which means editor > can get all the remaining time to go through the open issues. >=20 > Also note that Sean Turner will be the acting chair during the meeting.= > Justin and I will dial in remotely. >=20 > The latest version can be found at: > https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/agenda/agenda-95-cose >=20 > Kind Regards > Kepeng & Justin, your COSE chairs >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > COSE mailing list > COSE@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose >=20 --Sl5uHw6WUUkn4gW0QcXVQK5NafnSqLGrX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJW+DXPAAoJEGhJURNOOiAtJeYH/1b5q0Ni4bhWSyguLI/mz0rq nheNZxrrOI7GpIKI+/hwCp8k4ugYXciJbPYbVM2NR1RskynsSO2wHhvm6JYbxoDI rnXM6hhglVoEug6ubkxsx6XU1tVWgtFIenKMVv3yGjA8hfnKayworUbpSMK2Nf+H StF0r90ZMVuPvHiUioEmXM0ZfmqG58pQzSW9MIyt9CElJUuw78tEWfD0gMqKslPa pGDQBCvU6MNSr4w4FU+fROwRH1PM7jDo9SHm8N+aHbCNTKGpo+dtj4DfcUIgwLU7 7zZc3FkaPXQlRj4OpubVtee0Eb9m2tr8/pvVyjBXYBsICurUb5YL91ajTOFyFMs= =PQFL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sl5uHw6WUUkn4gW0QcXVQK5NafnSqLGrX-- From nobody Sun Mar 27 13:27:53 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2556A12D0F7 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 13:27:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.604 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.604 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, TRACKER_ID=1.306, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D_DiW4X1WNG7 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 13:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from welho-filter4.welho.com (welho-filter4.welho.com [83.102.41.26]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 145BF12D09A for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 13:27:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by welho-filter4.welho.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33BC94F0D for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 23:27:48 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at pp.htv.fi Received: from welho-smtp1.welho.com ([IPv6:::ffff:83.102.41.84]) by localhost (welho-filter4.welho.com [::ffff:83.102.41.26]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3jht_gMFgNod for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 23:27:47 +0300 (EEST) Received: from LK-Perkele-V2 (87-100-143-35.bb.dnainternet.fi [87.100.143.35]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by welho-smtp1.welho.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 51527286 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 23:27:47 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 23:27:45 +0300 From: Ilari Liusvaara To: "cose@ietf.org" Message-ID: <20160327202744.GA21218@LK-Perkele-V2.elisa-laajakaista.fi> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Sender: ilariliusvaara@welho.com Archived-At: Subject: [COSE] draft-schaad-cose-alg Curve25519 vs. Ed25519 (Re: Agenda proposal) X-BeenThere: cose@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 20:27:52 -0000 On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 11:35:42PM +0800, Kepeng Li wrote: > * COSE Additional Algorithms - 20 min (Jim) > — https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schaad-cose-alg/ I read this doc, and it seems like this document mixes up Curve25519 (X25519) and Ed25519 keys. Problem is that Curve25519 public key for some private key does not equal Ed25519 public key for the same private key... The same also applies to Curve448 vs. Ed448. E.g.: Private key: 77076d0a7318a57d3c16c17251b26645df4c2f87ebc0992ab177fba51db92c2a Curve25519 public key: 8520f0098930a754748b7ddcb43ef75a0dbf3a0d26381af4eba4a98eaa9b4e6a Ed25519 public key: d0a4cec0f8b50ba1e936ec5615454aa97dfb27864f5f17608af2cbb10548f1b3 (Those two public keys can't even be interconverted). -Ilari From nobody Sun Mar 27 14:25:35 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C42612D13D for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 14:25:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.23 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.23 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3csAVWuMahIk for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 14:25:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-3.mit.edu (dmz-mailsec-scanner-3.mit.edu [18.9.25.14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F43012D194 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 14:25:30 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 1209190e-763ff70000004fb3-6a-56f84fc92fe8 Received: from mailhub-auth-4.mit.edu ( [18.7.62.39]) (using TLS with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 02.AA.20403.9CF48F65; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 17:25:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) by mailhub-auth-4.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id u2RLPStu028641; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 17:25:29 -0400 Received: from [192.168.6.254] (ip-64-134-241-178.public.wayport.net [64.134.241.178]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as jricher@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.12.4) with ESMTP id u2RLPPX3030901 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 27 Mar 2016 17:25:26 -0400 From: Justin Richer Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_87902014-234F-47A8-84CE-7DFB85A06D59" Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 17:25:25 -0400 Message-Id: <1BBFE130-4FF7-4405-9BE7-91A1D02CEE71@mit.edu> To: Hannes Tschofenig , Kepeng Li , "cose@ietf.org" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.2 \(3112\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrNIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUixG6nrnvS/0eYQeNNHYtpW6eyWizdeY/V 4vL8IosrqxqZHVg8Jr79yOKxeNN+No8lS34yeRw8yBjAEsVlk5Kak1mWWqRvl8CVseD+ffaC L7UVP8/OZG1g7M/pYuTkkBAwkbg2fT17FyMXh5BAG5PEkWvTGSGcjYwS51tnMEE4l5kkzt94 wgjSwiagKjF9TQtQgoODWSBB4skxARBTWEBZYn5bCUgFC1DF2h9nmEHCvAJWEg2r0kDCzAIK EjvmNrCB2CICPYwSB6brgti8AnoSJ1btZoW4R1Zi34YFbBMYeWchzJ+FpGoW2CRtiWULXzND 2JoS+7uXs2CKa0h0fpvIuoCRbRWjbEpulW5uYmZOcWqybnFyYl5eapGusV5uZoleakrpJkZQ GHNK8u1gnNTgfYhRgINRiYf3gPWPMCHWxLLiytxDjJIcTEqivLe5gUJ8SfkplRmJxRnxRaU5 qcWHGCU4mJVEeFeoAOV4UxIrq1KL8mFS0hwsSuK8jAwMDEIC6YklqdmpqQWpRTBZGQ4OJQne r35AjYJFqempFWmZOSUIaSYOTpDhPEDDj4LU8BYXJOYWZ6ZD5E8xKkqJ8/qBJARAEhmleXC9 oDTj0PZx0ytGcaBXhHkVgUlHiAeYouC6XwENZgIaLGX1DWRwSSJCSqqBcdk0nySWuebXaoyv 8Omue7/ymMWDR1dqNs+oTW66t1bWVb67WyKtzqJ3YfyV96cVn+j8uLcr9aPLMpcjux7NaORZ 2j+BKcAhPvFr0LZs5qw97nOcLCpFPGZle1zsfx/lMLvsZpz0hElL2KXufu+Wfmm8LSGc5W6l 0JKpkhMY7J+lvzTJ+zNpmRJLcUaioRZzUXEiANNgPv8OAwAA Archived-At: Cc: Sean Turner Subject: Re: [COSE] Agenda proposal X-BeenThere: cose@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 21:25:34 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_87902014-234F-47A8-84CE-7DFB85A06D59 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Thanks for your feedback on the agenda.=20 The working group document is the last item on the agenda to ensure it = has enough time given to it and open issues, just like we've = successfully done twice now in this group.=20 The other documents were requested presentations that we considered = reasonable for small slots. Note that these times include questions and = discussion, and we trust that Sean will help keep things moving. Thus we = encourage the group to read the drafts ahead of time.=20 --Justin Sent from my phone Thanks for your feedback on the agenda.=20 The working group document is the last item on the agenda to ensure it = has enough time given to it and open issues, just like we've = successfully done twice now in this group.=20 The other documents were requested presentations that we considered = reasonable for small slots. Note that these times include questions and = discussion, and we trust that Sean will help keep things moving. Thus we = encourage the group to read the drafts ahead of time.=20 --Justin Sent from my phone -------- Original message -------- From: Hannes Tschofenig Date: 3/27/16 3:34 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Kepeng Li , cose@ietf.org Cc: Justin Richer , Sean Turner Subject: Re: [COSE] Agenda proposal Hi Kepeng, the working group document needs to be the first item on the agenda. I don't think that the ACE Object Security belong to this group and I hate to hear the same presentation given in multiple groups. We had discussions in the ACE working group about the best working group where this work should be done and the decision was to do it in CORE. Hence, we should not have presentations about it in other groups and I was actually hoping that Goeran would re-submit the draft with the correct file name so that the working group can be identified correctly. Ciao Hannes On 03/27/2016 05:35 PM, Kepeng Li wrote: > Hi all, >=20 > Here is a proposal for the agenda of the upcoming meeting: >=20 > * Opening & Welcome - 5 min (Sean) >=20 > * ACE Object Security - 10 min (Goran) > - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-selander-ace-object-security-04 >=20 > * Ephemeral Diffie-Hellman Over COSE =E2=80=93 10 min (Goran) > =E2=80=94 = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-selander-ace-cose-ecdhe/ >=20 > * COSE Additional Algorithms - 20 min (Jim) > =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schaad-cose-alg/ >=20 > * CBOR Encoded Message Syntax - 40 min (Jim) > =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-msg/ >=20 > * Wrap-up - 5 min (Sean) >=20 > Note that we arrange our WG draft as the last one, which means editor > can get all the remaining time to go through the open issues. >=20 > Also note that Sean Turner will be the acting chair during the = meeting. > Justin and I will dial in remotely. >=20 > The latest version can be found at: > https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/agenda/agenda-95-cose >=20 > Kind Regards > Kepeng & Justin, your COSE chairs >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > COSE mailing list > COSE@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose >=20 -------- Original message --------From: Hannes Tschofenig = Date: 3/27/16 3:34 PM (GMT-05:00) To: = Kepeng Li , cose@ietf.org Cc: Justin Richer = , Sean Turner Subject: Re: [COSE] = Agenda proposal=20 Hi Kepeng, the working group document needs to be the first item on the agenda. I don't think that the ACE Object Security belong to this group and I hate to hear the same presentation given in multiple groups. We had discussions in the ACE working group about the best working group where this work should be done and the decision was to do it in CORE. Hence, we should not have presentations about it in other groups and I was actually hoping that Goeran would re-submit the draft with the correct file name so that the working group can be identified correctly. Ciao Hannes On 03/27/2016 05:35 PM, Kepeng Li wrote: > Hi all, >=20 > Here is a proposal for the agenda of the upcoming meeting: >=20 > * Opening & Welcome - 5 min (Sean) >=20 > * ACE Object Security - 10 min (Goran) > - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-selander-ace-object-security-04 >=20 > * Ephemeral Diffie-Hellman Over COSE =E2=80=93 10 min (Goran) > =E2=80=94 = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-selander-ace-cose-ecdhe/ >=20 > * COSE Additional Algorithms - 20 min (Jim) > =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schaad-cose-alg/ >=20 > * CBOR Encoded Message Syntax - 40 min (Jim) > =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-msg/ >=20 > * Wrap-up - 5 min (Sean) >=20 > Note that we arrange our WG draft as the last one, which means editor > can get all the remaining time to go through the open issues. >=20 > Also note that Sean Turner will be the acting chair during the = meeting. > Justin and I will dial in remotely. >=20 > The latest version can be found at: > https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/agenda/agenda-95-cose >=20 > Kind Regards > Kepeng & Justin, your COSE chairs >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > COSE mailing list > COSE@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose >=20 --Apple-Mail=_87902014-234F-47A8-84CE-7DFB85A06D59 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Thanks for your feedback on the = agenda. 

The working group document is the last item on the agenda to = ensure it has enough time given to it and open issues, just like we've = successfully done twice now in this group. 

The other documents were requested = presentations that we considered reasonable for small slots. Note that = these times include questions and discussion, and we trust that Sean = will help keep things moving. Thus we encourage the group to read the = drafts ahead of time. 

--Justin

 Sent= from my phoneThanks for your feedback on the = agenda. 
The working group document is the last item = on the agenda to ensure it has enough time given to it and open issues, = just like we've successfully done twice now in this group. 
The other documents were requested presentations that we = considered reasonable for small slots. Note that these times include = questions and discussion, and we trust that Sean will help keep things = moving. Thus we encourage the group to read the drafts ahead of = time. 
--Justin
 Sent from my = phone
-------- Original = message --------
From: Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net>
Date: = 3/27/16 3:34 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Kepeng Li <kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.com>, cose@ietf.org
Cc: Justin Richer <jricher@mit.edu>, Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> =
Subject: Re: [COSE] Agenda proposal

Hi Kepeng,

the working group document needs to be the first item on the = agenda.

I don't think that the ACE Object = Security belong to this group and I
hate to hear the same = presentation given in multiple groups. We had
discussions = in the ACE working group about the best working group where
this work should be done and the decision was to do it in = CORE. Hence,
we should not have presentations about it in = other groups and I was
actually hoping that Goeran would = re-submit the draft with the correct
file name so that the = working group can be identified correctly.

Ciao
Hannes

On = 03/27/2016 05:35 PM, Kepeng Li wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Here is a proposal for the agenda of = the upcoming meeting:
>
> * Opening = & Welcome - 5 min (Sean)
>
> * = ACE Object Security - 10 min (Goran)
>  - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-selander-ace-object-security-= 04
>
> * Ephemeral Diffie-Hellman = Over COSE =E2=80=93 10 min (Goran)
>  =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-selander-ace-cose-ecdhe/=
>
> * COSE Additional Algorithms = - 20 min (Jim)
>  =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schaad-cose-alg/
>
> * CBOR Encoded Message Syntax - 40 = min (Jim)
>  =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-msg/
>
> * Wrap-up - 5 min (Sean)
>
> Note that we arrange our WG draft as = the last one, which means editor
> can get all the = remaining time to go through the open issues.
>
> Also note that Sean Turner will be the acting chair = during the meeting.
> Justin and I will dial in = remotely.
>
> The latest version can = be found at:
> https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/agenda/agenda-95-cose>
> Kind Regards
> = Kepeng & Justin, your COSE chairs
>
>
>
>
>
>
> = _______________________________________________
> COSE = mailing list
> COSE@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose
>

-------- Original message = --------From: Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net> Date: 3/27/16  3:34 PM =  (GMT-05:00) To: Kepeng Li <kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.com>, cose@ietf.org Cc: Justin = Richer <jricher@mit.edu>, Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> = Subject: Re: [COSE] Agenda proposal
Hi Kepeng,

the working group document needs to be the = first item on the agenda.

I don't think = that the ACE Object Security belong to this group and I
hate= to hear the same presentation given in multiple groups. We had
discussions in the ACE working group about the best working = group where
this work should be done and the decision was = to do it in CORE. Hence,
we should not have presentations = about it in other groups and I was
actually hoping that = Goeran would re-submit the draft with the correct
file = name so that the working group can be identified correctly.

Ciao
Hannes

On 03/27/2016 05:35 PM, Kepeng Li wrote:
Hi all,

Here is a proposal for the agenda of the upcoming meeting:

* Opening & Welcome - 5 min (Sean)

* ACE Object Security - 10 min (Goran)
  - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-selander-ace-object-security-= 04

* Ephemeral Diffie-Hellman Over COSE = =E2=80=93 10 min (Goran)
  =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-selander-ace-cose-ecdhe/=

* COSE Additional Algorithms - 20 min = (Jim)
  =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schaad-cose-alg/

* CBOR Encoded Message Syntax - 40 min = (Jim)
  =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-msg/

* Wrap-up - 5 min (Sean)

Note that we arrange our WG draft as the last one, which = means editor
can get all the remaining time to go through = the open issues.

Also note that Sean Turner = will be the acting chair during the meeting.
Justin and I = will dial in remotely.

The latest version = can be found at:
https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/agenda/agenda-95-cose
Kind Regards
Kepeng & = Justin, your COSE chairs






_______________________________________________
COSE mailing list
COSE@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose


= --Apple-Mail=_87902014-234F-47A8-84CE-7DFB85A06D59-- From nobody Sun Mar 27 18:58:51 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65BBF12D629 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 18:58:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ckJwOVuR-GiD for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 18:58:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1.pacifier.net (smtp1.pacifier.net [64.255.237.171]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8CAF12D627 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 18:58:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hebrews (c-24-21-96-37.hsd1.or.comcast.net [24.21.96.37]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jimsch@nwlink.com) by smtp1.pacifier.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C6E242C9FE; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 18:58:47 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Schaad" To: "'Ilari Liusvaara'" , References: <20160327202744.GA21218@LK-Perkele-V2.elisa-laajakaista.fi> In-Reply-To: <20160327202744.GA21218@LK-Perkele-V2.elisa-laajakaista.fi> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 18:58:47 -0700 Message-ID: <013801d18895$5dfcd390$19f67ab0$@augustcellars.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQIXAxMU8HcWdZuvkMjnxUNpCZt/LAHm+dzMntPsk0A= Content-Language: en-us Archived-At: Subject: Re: [COSE] draft-schaad-cose-alg Curve25519 vs. Ed25519 (Re: Agenda proposal) X-BeenThere: cose@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 01:58:50 -0000 I missed that when I was racing through the write-up on this. I will go = back and repair. Thanks for finding this. Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: COSE [mailto:cose-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ilari Liusvaara > Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 1:28 PM > To: cose@ietf.org > Subject: [COSE] draft-schaad-cose-alg Curve25519 vs. Ed25519 (Re: = Agenda > proposal) >=20 > On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 11:35:42PM +0800, Kepeng Li wrote: >=20 > > * COSE Additional Algorithms - 20 min (Jim) =E2=80=94 > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schaad-cose-alg/ >=20 > I read this doc, and it seems like this document mixes up Curve25519 > (X25519) and Ed25519 keys. Problem is that Curve25519 public key for = some > private key does not equal Ed25519 public key for the same private = key... The > same also applies to Curve448 vs. Ed448. >=20 >=20 > E.g.: >=20 > Private key: >=20 > 77076d0a7318a57d3c16c17251b26645df4c2f87ebc0992ab177fba51db92c2a >=20 > Curve25519 public key: >=20 > 8520f0098930a754748b7ddcb43ef75a0dbf3a0d26381af4eba4a98eaa9b4e6a >=20 > Ed25519 public key: >=20 > d0a4cec0f8b50ba1e936ec5615454aa97dfb27864f5f17608af2cbb10548f1b3 >=20 >=20 > (Those two public keys can't even be interconverted). >=20 >=20 >=20 > -Ilari >=20 > _______________________________________________ > COSE mailing list > COSE@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose From nobody Sun Mar 27 18:59:42 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB3412D628 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 18:59:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L2eoGItvgPh9 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 18:59:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp4.pacifier.net (smtp4.pacifier.net [64.255.237.176]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D43312D627 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 18:59:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hebrews (c-24-21-96-37.hsd1.or.comcast.net [24.21.96.37]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jimsch@nwlink.com) by smtp4.pacifier.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5075038EFA; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 18:59:36 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Schaad" To: "'Justin Richer'" , "'Hannes Tschofenig'" , "'Kepeng Li'" , References: <1BBFE130-4FF7-4405-9BE7-91A1D02CEE71@mit.edu> In-Reply-To: <1BBFE130-4FF7-4405-9BE7-91A1D02CEE71@mit.edu> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 18:59:35 -0700 Message-ID: <013901d18895$7afe8420$70fb8c60$@augustcellars.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_013A_01D1885A.CEA44000" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQIrSMl8N5iNBFOF+nY7bcjIuHtxMJ66mT5Q Content-Language: en-us Archived-At: Cc: 'Sean Turner' Subject: Re: [COSE] Agenda proposal X-BeenThere: cose@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 01:59:40 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_013A_01D1885A.CEA44000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would prefer having the additional algorithms presented at the end of = the meeting on an if time is available basis. =20 Jim =20 =20 From: COSE [mailto:cose-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Justin Richer Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 2:25 PM To: Hannes Tschofenig ; Kepeng Li = ; cose@ietf.org Cc: Sean Turner Subject: Re: [COSE] Agenda proposal =20 Thanks for your feedback on the agenda.=20 =20 The working group document is the last item on the agenda to ensure it = has enough time given to it and open issues, just like we've = successfully done twice now in this group.=20 =20 The other documents were requested presentations that we considered = reasonable for small slots. Note that these times include questions and = discussion, and we trust that Sean will help keep things moving. Thus we = encourage the group to read the drafts ahead of time.=20 =20 --Justin =20 Sent from my phone Thanks for your feedback on the agenda.=20 The working group document is the last item on the agenda to ensure it = has enough time given to it and open issues, just like we've = successfully done twice now in this group.=20 The other documents were requested presentations that we considered = reasonable for small slots. Note that these times include questions and = discussion, and we trust that Sean will help keep things moving. Thus we = encourage the group to read the drafts ahead of time.=20 --Justin Sent from my phone -------- Original message -------- From: Hannes Tschofenig >=20 Date: 3/27/16 3:34 PM (GMT-05:00)=20 To: Kepeng Li >, cose@ietf.org = =20 Cc: Justin Richer >, Sean = Turner >=20 Subject: Re: [COSE] Agenda proposal=20 =20 Hi Kepeng, the working group document needs to be the first item on the agenda. I don't think that the ACE Object Security belong to this group and I hate to hear the same presentation given in multiple groups. We had discussions in the ACE working group about the best working group where this work should be done and the decision was to do it in CORE. Hence, we should not have presentations about it in other groups and I was actually hoping that Goeran would re-submit the draft with the correct file name so that the working group can be identified correctly. Ciao Hannes On 03/27/2016 05:35 PM, Kepeng Li wrote: > Hi all, >=20 > Here is a proposal for the agenda of the upcoming meeting: >=20 > * Opening & Welcome - 5 min (Sean) >=20 > * ACE Object Security - 10 min (Goran) > - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-selander-ace-object-security-04 >=20 > * Ephemeral Diffie-Hellman Over COSE =E2=80=93 10 min (Goran) > =E2=80=94 = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-selander-ace-cose-ecdhe/ >=20 > * COSE Additional Algorithms - 20 min (Jim) > =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schaad-cose-alg/ >=20 > * CBOR Encoded Message Syntax - 40 min (Jim) > =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-msg/ >=20 > * Wrap-up - 5 min (Sean) >=20 > Note that we arrange our WG draft as the last one, which means editor > can get all the remaining time to go through the open issues. >=20 > Also note that Sean Turner will be the acting chair during the = meeting. > Justin and I will dial in remotely. >=20 > The latest version can be found at: > https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/agenda/agenda-95-cose >=20 > Kind Regards > Kepeng & Justin, your COSE chairs >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > COSE mailing list > COSE@ietf.org =20 > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose >=20 -------- Original message --------From: Hannes Tschofenig = > Date: = 3/27/16 3:34 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Kepeng Li >, cose@ietf.org = Cc: Justin Richer >, Sean Turner > Subject: Re: [COSE] Agenda proposal=20 Hi Kepeng, the working group document needs to be the first item on the agenda. I don't think that the ACE Object Security belong to this group and I hate to hear the same presentation given in multiple groups. We had discussions in the ACE working group about the best working group where this work should be done and the decision was to do it in CORE. Hence, we should not have presentations about it in other groups and I was actually hoping that Goeran would re-submit the draft with the correct file name so that the working group can be identified correctly. Ciao Hannes On 03/27/2016 05:35 PM, Kepeng Li wrote: Hi all, Here is a proposal for the agenda of the upcoming meeting: * Opening & Welcome - 5 min (Sean) * ACE Object Security - 10 min (Goran) - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-selander-ace-object-security-04 * Ephemeral Diffie-Hellman Over COSE =E2=80=93 10 min (Goran) =E2=80=94 = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-selander-ace-cose-ecdhe/ * COSE Additional Algorithms - 20 min (Jim) =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schaad-cose-alg/ * CBOR Encoded Message Syntax - 40 min (Jim) =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-msg/ * Wrap-up - 5 min (Sean) Note that we arrange our WG draft as the last one, which means editor can get all the remaining time to go through the open issues. Also note that Sean Turner will be the acting chair during the meeting. Justin and I will dial in remotely. The latest version can be found at: https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/agenda/agenda-95-cose Kind Regards Kepeng & Justin, your COSE chairs _______________________________________________ COSE mailing list COSE@ietf.org =20 https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose =20 ------=_NextPart_000_013A_01D1885A.CEA44000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I would = prefer having the additional algorithms presented at the end of the = meeting on an if time is available basis.

 

Jim

 

 

From:<= /b> = COSE [mailto:cose-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Justin = Richer
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 2:25 PM
To: = Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net>; Kepeng Li = <kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.com>; cose@ietf.org
Cc: Sean = Turner <sean@sn3rd.com>
Subject: Re: [COSE] Agenda = proposal

 

Thanks = for your feedback on the agenda. 

 

The working group document is the last item on the = agenda to ensure it has enough time given to it and open issues, just = like we've successfully done twice now in this = group. 

 

The other documents were requested presentations that = we considered reasonable for small slots. Note that these times include = questions and discussion, and we trust that Sean will help keep things = moving. Thus we encourage the group to read the drafts ahead of = time. 

 

--Justin

 

 Sent from my = phone

Thanks = for your feedback on the agenda. 
The working group document is = the last item on the agenda to ensure it has enough time given to it and = open issues, just like we've successfully done twice now in this = group. 
The other documents were requested presentations that we = considered reasonable for small slots. Note that these times include = questions and discussion, and we trust that Sean will help keep things = moving. Thus we encourage the group to read the drafts ahead of = time. 
--Justin
 Sent from my = phone

-------- Original message = --------

From: Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net&g= t;

Date: 3/27/16 3:34 PM (GMT-05:00) =

Cc: Justin Richer <jricher@mit.edu>, Sean Turner = <sean@sn3rd.com> =

Subject: Re: [COSE] Agenda proposal =

 

Hi Kepeng,

the working group document needs to = be the first item on the agenda.

I don't think that the ACE = Object Security belong to this group and I
hate to hear the same = presentation given in multiple groups. We had
discussions in the ACE = working group about the best working group where
this work should be = done and the decision was to do it in CORE. Hence,
we should not have = presentations about it in other groups and I was
actually hoping that = Goeran would re-submit the draft with the correct
file name so that = the working group can be identified = correctly.

Ciao
Hannes

On 03/27/2016 05:35 PM, Kepeng = Li wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Here is a proposal for the = agenda of the upcoming meeting:
>
> * Opening & Welcome = - 5 min (Sean)
>
> * ACE Object Security - 10 min = (Goran)
>  - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-selander-ace-object-security-04>
> * Ephemeral Diffie-Hellman Over COSE =E2=80=93 10 min = (Goran)
>  =E2=80=94 = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-selander-ace-cose-ecdhe/
&g= t;
> * COSE Additional Algorithms - 20 min (Jim)
>  = =E2=80=94 https://= datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schaad-cose-alg/
>
> * = CBOR Encoded Message Syntax - 40 min (Jim)
>  =E2=80=94 https://da= tatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-msg/
>
> * = Wrap-up - 5 min (Sean)
>
> Note that we arrange our WG = draft as the last one, which means editor
> can get all the = remaining time to go through the open issues.
>
> Also note = that Sean Turner will be the acting chair during the meeting.
> = Justin and I will dial in remotely.
>
> The latest version = can be found at:
> https:= //www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/agenda/agenda-95-cose
>
> = Kind Regards
> Kepeng & Justin, your COSE chairs
> =
>
>
>
>
>
> = _______________________________________________
> COSE mailing = list
> COSE@ietf.org
> = https://www.ietf.org/= mailman/listinfo/cose
>

-------- Original message = --------From: Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net&g= t; Date: 3/27/16  3:34 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Kepeng Li <kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.com= >, cose@ietf.org Cc: Justin = Richer <jricher@mit.edu>, = Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> = Subject: Re: [COSE] Agenda proposal
Hi Kepeng,

the working = group document needs to be the first item on the agenda.

I don't = think that the ACE Object Security belong to this group and I
hate to = hear the same presentation given in multiple groups. We = had
discussions in the ACE working group about the best working group = where
this work should be done and the decision was to do it in CORE. = Hence,
we should not have presentations about it in other groups and = I was
actually hoping that Goeran would re-submit the draft with the = correct
file name so that the working group can be identified = correctly.

Ciao
Hannes

On 03/27/2016 05:35 PM, Kepeng = Li wrote:

Hi all,

Here is a proposal for the = agenda of the upcoming meeting:

* Opening & Welcome - 5 min = (Sean)

* ACE Object Security - 10 min (Goran)
  - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-selander-ace-object-security-04
* Ephemeral Diffie-Hellman Over COSE =E2=80=93 10 min = (Goran)
  =E2=80=94 = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-selander-ace-cose-ecdhe/
* COSE Additional Algorithms - 20 min (Jim)
  =E2=80=94 https://= datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schaad-cose-alg/

* CBOR = Encoded Message Syntax - 40 min (Jim)
  =E2=80=94 https://da= tatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-msg/

* Wrap-up - 5 min = (Sean)

Note that we arrange our WG draft as the last one, which = means editor
can get all the remaining time to go through the open = issues.

Also note that Sean Turner will be the acting chair = during the meeting.
Justin and I will dial in remotely.

The = latest version can be found at:
https:= //www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/agenda/agenda-95-cose

Kind = Regards
Kepeng & Justin, your COSE = chairs






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Tue, 29 Mar 2016 02:36:53 -0000 > ´ËÓʼþʹÓà MIME ¸ñʽ¡£ÓÉÓÚÓʼþÔĶÁ³ÌÐò²»ÄÜʶ±ð ´Ë¸ñʽ£¬Òò´Ë£¬¿ÉÄÜÎÞ·¨Ê¶±ð¸ÃÓʼþµÄ·Ö²¿»ò²¿·ÖÄÚÈÝ¡£ --B_3542092614_3501255 Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I swap the order according to the received feedback. https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/agenda/agenda-95-cose * Opening & Welcome - 5 min (Sean) * CBOR Encoded Message Syntax - 40 min (Jim) =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-msg/ * COSE Additional Algorithms - 20 min (Jim) =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schaad-cose-alg/ * Ephemeral Diffie-Hellman Over COSE =E2=80=93 10 min (Goran) =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-selander-ace-cose-ecdhe/ * ACE Object Security - 10 min (Goran) - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-selander-ace-object-security-04 * Wrap-up - 5 min (Sean) Kind Regards Kepeng =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: Jim Schaad =E6=97=A5=E6=9C=9F: Monday, 28 March, 2016 9:59 am =E8=87=B3: 'Justin Richer' , 'Hannes Tschofenig' , Li Kepeng , =E6=8A=84=E9=80=81: 'Sean Turner' =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: Re: [COSE] Agenda proposal I would prefer having the additional algorithms presented at the end of the meeting on an if time is available basis. =20 Jim =20 =20 From: COSE [mailto:cose-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Justin Richer Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 2:25 PM To: Hannes Tschofenig ; Kepeng Li ; cose@ietf.org Cc: Sean Turner Subject: Re: [COSE] Agenda proposal =20 Thanks for your feedback on the agenda. =20 The working group document is the last item on the agenda to ensure it has enough time given to it and open issues, just like we've successfully done twice now in this group. =20 The other documents were requested presentations that we considered reasonable for small slots. Note that these times include questions and discussion, and we trust that Sean will help keep things moving. Thus we encourage the group to read the drafts ahead of time. =20 --Justin =20 Sent from my phone Thanks for your feedback on the agenda. The working group document is the last item on the agenda to ensure it has enough time given to it and open issues, just like we've successfully done twice now in this group. The other documents were requested presentations that we considered reasonable for small slots. Note that these times include questions and discussion, and we trust that Sean will help keep things moving. Thus we encourage the group to read the drafts ahead of time. --Justin Sent from my phone -------- Original message -------- From: Hannes Tschofenig Date: 3/27/16 3:34 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Kepeng Li , cose@ietf.org Cc: Justin Richer , Sean Turner Subject: Re: [COSE] Agenda proposal =20 Hi Kepeng, the working group document needs to be the first item on the agenda. I don't think that the ACE Object Security belong to this group and I hate to hear the same presentation given in multiple groups. We had discussions in the ACE working group about the best working group where this work should be done and the decision was to do it in CORE. Hence, we should not have presentations about it in other groups and I was actually hoping that Goeran would re-submit the draft with the correct file name so that the working group can be identified correctly. Ciao Hannes On 03/27/2016 05:35 PM, Kepeng Li wrote: > Hi all, >=20 > Here is a proposal for the agenda of the upcoming meeting: >=20 > * Opening & Welcome - 5 min (Sean) >=20 > * ACE Object Security - 10 min (Goran) > - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-selander-ace-object-security-04 >=20 > * Ephemeral Diffie-Hellman Over COSE =E2=80=93 10 min (Goran) > =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-selander-ace-cose-ecdhe/ >=20 > * COSE Additional Algorithms - 20 min (Jim) > =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schaad-cose-alg/ >=20 > * CBOR Encoded Message Syntax - 40 min (Jim) > =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-msg/ >=20 > * Wrap-up - 5 min (Sean) >=20 > Note that we arrange our WG draft as the last one, which means editor > can get all the remaining time to go through the open issues. >=20 > Also note that Sean Turner will be the acting chair during the meeting. > Justin and I will dial in remotely. >=20 > The latest version can be found at: > https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/agenda/agenda-95-cose >=20 > Kind Regards > Kepeng & Justin, your COSE chairs >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > COSE mailing list > COSE@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose >=20 -------- Original message --------From: Hannes Tschofenig Date: 3/27/16 3:34 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Kepeng Li , cose@ietf.org Cc: Justin Richer , Sean Turner Subject: Re: [COSE] Agenda proposal=20 Hi Kepeng, the working group document needs to be the first item on the agenda. I don't think that the ACE Object Security belong to this group and I hate to hear the same presentation given in multiple groups. We had discussions in the ACE working group about the best working group where this work should be done and the decision was to do it in CORE. Hence, we should not have presentations about it in other groups and I was actually hoping that Goeran would re-submit the draft with the correct file name so that the working group can be identified correctly. Ciao Hannes On 03/27/2016 05:35 PM, Kepeng Li wrote: >=20 > Hi all, >=20 > Here is a proposal for the agenda of the upcoming meeting: >=20 > * Opening & Welcome - 5 min (Sean) >=20 > * ACE Object Security - 10 min (Goran) > - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-selander-ace-object-security-04 >=20 > * Ephemeral Diffie-Hellman Over COSE =E2=80=93 10 min (Goran) > =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-selander-ace-cose-ecdhe/ >=20 > * COSE Additional Algorithms - 20 min (Jim) > =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schaad-cose-alg/ >=20 > * CBOR Encoded Message Syntax - 40 min (Jim) > =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-msg/ >=20 > * Wrap-up - 5 min (Sean) >=20 > Note that we arrange our WG draft as the last one, which means editor > can get all the remaining time to go through the open issues. >=20 > Also note that Sean Turner will be the acting chair during the meeting. > Justin and I will dial in remotely. >=20 > The latest version can be found at: > https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/agenda/agenda-95-cose >=20 > Kind Regards > Kepeng & Justin, your COSE chairs >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > COSE mailing list > COSE@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose =20 _______________________________________________ COSE mailing list COSE@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose --B_3542092614_3501255 Content-type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
I swap the order according t= o the received feedback.
* Opening = & Welcome - 5 min (Sean) * CBOR Encoded Message Syntax - 40 min (Jim) — https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-msg/ * COSE Additional Algorithms - 20 min (Jim) — https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schaad-cose-alg/ * Ephemeral Diffie-Hellman Over COSE – 10 min (Goran) — https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-selander-ace-cose-ecdhe/ * ACE Object Security - 10 min (Goran) - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-selander-ace-object-security-04 * Wrap-up - 5 min (Sean)
Kind Regards
Kepeng

=E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com>
=E6=97=A5=E6=9C=9F: Monday, 28 March, 2016 9:59 am
<= span style=3D"font-weight:bold">=E8=87=B3: 'Justin Richer' <jricher@mit.edu>, 'Hannes Tschofenig' <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net>, Li Ke= peng <kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.= com>, <cose@ietf.org>
=E6=8A=84=E9=80=81: 'Sean Turner' <sean@sn3rd.com>
=E4= =B8=BB=E9=A2=98: Re: [COSE] Agenda proposal

I would prefer having the additional= algorithms presented at the end of the meeting on an if time is available b= asis.

 

J= im

 

 

From: COSE [mailto:cose-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of= Justin Richer
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 2:25 PM
To:<= /b> Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.= tschofenig@gmx.net>; Kepeng Li <kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.com>; cose@ietf.org
Cc: Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com>
Subject: Re: [COSE] Agenda proposal

 

Thanks for your feedback on the agenda. 

 

The working group document is the last item on the agenda to= ensure it has enough time given to it and open issues, just like we've succ= essfully done twice now in this group. 

 

The othe= r documents were requested presentations that we considered reasonable for s= mall slots. Note that these times include questions and discussion, and we t= rust that Sean will help keep things moving. Thus we encourage the group to = read the drafts ahead of time. 

 

--Justin

 

 Sent from my phone

Thanks for your feedback= on the agenda. 
The working group document is the last item on the = agenda to ensure it has enough time given to it and open issues, just like w= e've successfully done twice now in this group. 
The other documents= were requested presentations that we considered reasonable for small slots.= Note that these times include questions and discussion, and we trust that S= ean will help keep things moving. Thus we encourage the group to read the dr= afts ahead of time. 
--Justin
 Sent from my phone=

-------- Origin= al message --------

From: Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net>

Date: 3/27/16 3:34 P= M (GMT-05:00)

Cc: Justin Richer <jric= her@mit.edu>, Sean Turner <sean@sn= 3rd.com>

Subject: Re: [COSE] Agenda proposal

 

Hi Kepeng,

the working g= roup document needs to be the first item on the agenda.

I don't think= that the ACE Object Security belong to this group and I
hate to hear the= same presentation given in multiple groups. We had
discussions in the AC= E working group about the best working group where
this work should be do= ne and the decision was to do it in CORE. Hence,
we should not have prese= ntations about it in other groups and I was
actually hoping that Goeran w= ould re-submit the draft with the correct
file name so that the working g= roup can be identified correctly.

Ciao
Hannes

On 03/27/2016= 05:35 PM, Kepeng Li wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Here is a propo= sal for the agenda of the upcoming meeting:
>
> * Opening &= Welcome - 5 min (Sean)
>
> * ACE Object Security - 10 min (Gor= an)
>  - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-selander-ace-object-se= curity-04
>
> * Ephemeral Diffie-Hellman Over COSE – = 10 min (Goran)
>  — https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-se= lander-ace-cose-ecdhe/
>
> * COSE Additional Algorithms - 2= 0 min (Jim)
>  — https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schaad-cose-a= lg/
>
> * CBOR Encoded Message Syntax - 40 min (Jim)
>= ;  — https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-msg/
>
&g= t; * Wrap-up - 5 min (Sean)
>
> Note that we arrange our WG dra= ft as the last one, which means editor
> can get all the remaining tim= e to go through the open issues.
>
> Also note that Sean Turner= will be the acting chair during the meeting.
> Justin and I will dial= in remotely.
>
> The latest version can be found at:
> <= a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/agenda/agenda-95-cose">https://w= ww.ietf.org/proceedings/95/agenda/agenda-95-cose
>
> Kind R= egards
> Kepeng & Justin, your COSE chairs
>
>
&g= t;
>
>
>
> _____________________________________= __________
> COSE mailing list
> = COSE@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose
>

-------- O= riginal message --------From: Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net> Date: 3/27/16  3:3= 4 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Kepeng Li <kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.com>, = cose@ietf.org Cc: Justin Richer <jri= cher@mit.edu>, Sean Turner <sean@s= n3rd.com> Subject: Re: [COSE] Agenda proposal
Hi Kepeng,

t= he working group document needs to be the first item on the agenda.

I= don't think that the ACE Object Security belong to this group and I
hate= to hear the same presentation given in multiple groups. We had
discussio= ns in the ACE working group about the best working group where
this work = should be done and the decision was to do it in CORE. Hence,
we should no= t have presentations about it in other groups and I was
actually hoping t= hat Goeran would re-submit the draft with the correct
file name so that t= he working group can be identified correctly.

Ciao
Hannes

O= n 03/27/2016 05:35 PM, Kepeng Li wrote:

Hi all,

Here is a proposal for the agenda of the upc= oming meeting:

* Opening & Welcome - 5 min (Sean)

* ACE Ob= ject Security - 10 min (Goran)
  - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft= -selander-ace-object-security-04

* Ephemeral Diffie-Hellman Over = COSE – 10 min (Goran)
  — https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc= /draft-selander-ace-cose-ecdhe/

* COSE Additional Algorithms - 20= min (Jim)
  — https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schaad-cose-alg/

* CBOR Encoded Message Syntax - 40 min (Jim)
  — https://datatra= cker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-msg/

* Wrap-up - 5 min (Sean)
Note that we arrange our WG draft as the last one, which means editor<= br>can get all the remaining time to go through the open issues.

Also= note that Sean Turner will be the acting chair during the meeting.
Justi= n and I will dial in remotely.

The latest version can be found at:https:/= /www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/agenda/agenda-95-cose

Kind RegardsKepeng & Justin, your COSE chairs






_________= ______________________________________
COSE mailing list
COSE@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose

 

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If the issues with the Messages draft are taking too long, = they=E2=80=99ll fill up the remaining time as needed.=20 =E2=80=94 Justin > On Mar 28, 2016, at 10:36 PM, Kepeng Li = wrote: >=20 > I swap the order according to the received feedback. > https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/agenda/agenda-95-cose = > * Opening & Welcome - 5 min (Sean) >=20 > * CBOR Encoded Message Syntax - 40 min (Jim) > =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-msg/ = >=20 > * COSE Additional Algorithms - 20 min (Jim) > =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schaad-cose-alg/ = >=20 > * Ephemeral Diffie-Hellman Over COSE =E2=80=93 10 min (Goran) > =E2=80=94 = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-selander-ace-cose-ecdhe/ = >=20 > * ACE Object Security - 10 min (Goran) > - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-selander-ace-object-security-04 = >=20 > * Wrap-up - 5 min (Sean) > Kind Regards > Kepeng >=20 > =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: Jim Schaad > > =E6=97=A5=E6=9C=9F: Monday, 28 March, 2016 9:59 am > =E8=87=B3: 'Justin Richer' >, = 'Hannes Tschofenig' >, Li Kepeng = >, = > > =E6=8A=84=E9=80=81: 'Sean Turner' > > =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: Re: [COSE] Agenda proposal >=20 > I would prefer having the additional algorithms presented at the end = of the meeting on an if time is available basis. > =20 > Jim > =20 > =20 > From: COSE [mailto:cose-bounces@ietf.org = ] On Behalf Of Justin Richer > Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 2:25 PM > To: Hannes Tschofenig >; Kepeng Li = >; = cose@ietf.org > Cc: Sean Turner > > Subject: Re: [COSE] Agenda proposal > =20 > Thanks for your feedback on the agenda.=20 > =20 > The working group document is the last item on the agenda to ensure it = has enough time given to it and open issues, just like we've = successfully done twice now in this group.=20 > =20 > The other documents were requested presentations that we considered = reasonable for small slots. Note that these times include questions and = discussion, and we trust that Sean will help keep things moving. Thus we = encourage the group to read the drafts ahead of time.=20 > =20 > --Justin > =20 > Sent from my phone > Thanks for your feedback on the agenda.=20 > The working group document is the last item on the agenda to ensure it = has enough time given to it and open issues, just like we've = successfully done twice now in this group.=20 > The other documents were requested presentations that we considered = reasonable for small slots. Note that these times include questions and = discussion, and we trust that Sean will help keep things moving. Thus we = encourage the group to read the drafts ahead of time.=20 > --Justin > Sent from my phone > -------- Original message -------- > From: Hannes Tschofenig >=20 > Date: 3/27/16 3:34 PM (GMT-05:00)=20 > To: Kepeng Li >, cose@ietf.org = > Cc: Justin Richer >, Sean = Turner >=20 > Subject: Re: [COSE] Agenda proposal=20 > =20 > Hi Kepeng, >=20 > the working group document needs to be the first item on the agenda. >=20 > I don't think that the ACE Object Security belong to this group and I > hate to hear the same presentation given in multiple groups. We had > discussions in the ACE working group about the best working group = where > this work should be done and the decision was to do it in CORE. Hence, > we should not have presentations about it in other groups and I was > actually hoping that Goeran would re-submit the draft with the correct > file name so that the working group can be identified correctly. >=20 > Ciao > Hannes >=20 > On 03/27/2016 05:35 PM, Kepeng Li wrote: > > Hi all, > >=20 > > Here is a proposal for the agenda of the upcoming meeting: > >=20 > > * Opening & Welcome - 5 min (Sean) > >=20 > > * ACE Object Security - 10 min (Goran) > > - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-selander-ace-object-security-04 = > >=20 > > * Ephemeral Diffie-Hellman Over COSE =E2=80=93 10 min (Goran) > > =E2=80=94 = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-selander-ace-cose-ecdhe/ = > >=20 > > * COSE Additional Algorithms - 20 min (Jim) > > =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schaad-cose-alg/ = > >=20 > > * CBOR Encoded Message Syntax - 40 min (Jim) > > =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-msg/ = > >=20 > > * Wrap-up - 5 min (Sean) > >=20 > > Note that we arrange our WG draft as the last one, which means = editor > > can get all the remaining time to go through the open issues. > >=20 > > Also note that Sean Turner will be the acting chair during the = meeting. > > Justin and I will dial in remotely. > >=20 > > The latest version can be found at: > > https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/agenda/agenda-95-cose = > >=20 > > Kind Regards > > Kepeng & Justin, your COSE chairs > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > _______________________________________________ > > COSE mailing list > > COSE@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose = > >=20 >=20 > -------- Original message --------From: Hannes Tschofenig = > Date: = 3/27/16 3:34 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Kepeng Li >, cose@ietf.org = Cc: Justin Richer >, Sean Turner > Subject: Re: [COSE] Agenda proposal=20 > Hi Kepeng, >=20 > the working group document needs to be the first item on the agenda. >=20 > I don't think that the ACE Object Security belong to this group and I > hate to hear the same presentation given in multiple groups. We had > discussions in the ACE working group about the best working group = where > this work should be done and the decision was to do it in CORE. Hence, > we should not have presentations about it in other groups and I was > actually hoping that Goeran would re-submit the draft with the correct > file name so that the working group can be identified correctly. >=20 > Ciao > Hannes >=20 > On 03/27/2016 05:35 PM, Kepeng Li wrote: >=20 >> Hi all, >>=20 >> Here is a proposal for the agenda of the upcoming meeting: >>=20 >> * Opening & Welcome - 5 min (Sean) >>=20 >> * ACE Object Security - 10 min (Goran) >> - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-selander-ace-object-security-04 = >>=20 >> * Ephemeral Diffie-Hellman Over COSE =E2=80=93 10 min (Goran) >> =E2=80=94 = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-selander-ace-cose-ecdhe/ = >>=20 >> * COSE Additional Algorithms - 20 min (Jim) >> =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schaad-cose-alg/ = >>=20 >> * CBOR Encoded Message Syntax - 40 min (Jim) >> =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-msg/ = >>=20 >> * Wrap-up - 5 min (Sean) >>=20 >> Note that we arrange our WG draft as the last one, which means editor >> can get all the remaining time to go through the open issues. >>=20 >> Also note that Sean Turner will be the acting chair during the = meeting. >> Justin and I will dial in remotely. >>=20 >> The latest version can be found at: >> https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/agenda/agenda-95-cose = >>=20 >> Kind Regards >> Kepeng & Justin, your COSE chairs >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> COSE mailing list >> COSE@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose = =20 > _______________________________________________ COSE mailing list = COSE@ietf.org = https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose = --Apple-Mail=_93130F1B-FE25-41E3-9E77-B58794B4859B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hi everybody,

There was a little bit of confusion regarding the agenda, = it=E2=80=99s now revised to this:

https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/agenda/agenda-95-cose
* Opening & Welcome - =
5 min (Sean)

* Ephemeral Diffie-Hellman Over COSE =E2=80=93 10 min (Goran)
 =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-selander-ace-cose-ecdhe/

* ACE Object Security - 10 min (Goran)
 - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-selander-ace-object-security-04=



* CBOR Encoded Message Syntax - 40 min (including open =
issues) (Jim)
 =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-msg/

* COSE Additional Algorithms - 20 min (if time allows) (Jim)
 =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schaad-cose-alg/


* Wrap-up - 5 min (Sean)


Note= that the algorithms draft slot is optional and only if time permits. If = the issues with the Messages draft are taking too long, they=E2=80=99ll = fill up the remaining time as needed. 

 =E2=80=94 Justin


On = Mar 28, 2016, at 10:36 PM, Kepeng Li <kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.com> wrote:

I swap the order = according to the received feedback.
https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/agenda/agenda-95-cose
* Opening & Welcome - 5 min (Sean)

* CBOR Encoded Message Syntax - 40 min (Jim)
 =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-msg/

* COSE Additional Algorithms - 20 min (Jim)
 =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schaad-cose-alg/

* Ephemeral Diffie-Hellman Over COSE =E2=80=93 10 min (Goran)
 =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-selander-ace-cose-ecdhe/=


* ACE Object Security - 10 min (Goran)
 - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-selander-ace-object-security-=
04

* Wrap-up - 5 min (Sean)
Kind Regards
Kepeng

=E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6= =E4=BA=BA: Jim = Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com>
=E6=97=A5=E6=9C=9F: Monday, 28 March, = 2016 9:59 am
=E8=87=B3: 'Justin Richer' = <jricher@mit.edu>, 'Hannes = Tschofenig' <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net>, Li Kepeng <kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.com>, <cose@ietf.org>
=E6=8A=84=E9=80=81: 'Sean Turner' <sean@sn3rd.com>
=E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: Re: [COSE] Agenda = proposal

I = would prefer having the additional algorithms presented at the end of = the meeting on an if time is available basis.
 
Jim
 
 
From: COSE [mailto:cose-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf = Of Justin = Richer
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 2:25 = PM
To: Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net>;= Kepeng Li <kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.com>; cose@ietf.org
Cc: Sean = Turner <sean@sn3rd.com>
Subject: Re: [COSE] Agenda = proposal
 
Thanks for your = feedback on the agenda. 
 
The working group document is the last item on the = agenda to ensure it has enough time given to it and open issues, just = like we've successfully done twice now in this group. 
 
The other documents were requested = presentations that we considered reasonable for small slots. Note that = these times include questions and discussion, and we trust that Sean = will help keep things moving. Thus we encourage the group to read the = drafts ahead of time. 
 
--Justin
 
 Sent from my phone
Thanks for your feedback on the agenda. 
The= working group document is the last item on the agenda to ensure it has = enough time given to it and open issues, just like we've successfully = done twice now in this group. 
The other documents = were requested presentations that we considered reasonable for small = slots. Note that these times include questions and discussion, and we = trust that Sean will help keep things moving. Thus we encourage the = group to read the drafts ahead of time. 
--Justin
 Sent from my phone
-------- Original message --------
From: Hannes Tschofenig = <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net> 
Date: 3/27/16 3:34 PM = (GMT-05:00) 
To: Kepeng Li <kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.com>, cose@ietf.org
Cc: Justin Richer <jricher@mit.edu>, Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> 
Subject: Re: [COSE] = Agenda proposal 
 
Hi Kepeng,

the working = group document needs to be the first item on the agenda.
I don't think that the ACE Object Security belong to this = group and I
hate to hear the same presentation given in = multiple groups. We had
discussions in the ACE working = group about the best working group where
this work should = be done and the decision was to do it in CORE. Hence,
we = should not have presentations about it in other groups and I was
actually hoping that Goeran would re-submit the draft with = the correct
file name so that the working group can be = identified correctly.

Ciao
Hannes

On 03/27/2016 05:35 PM, = Kepeng Li wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Here is = a proposal for the agenda of the upcoming meeting:
> 
> * = Opening & Welcome - 5 min (Sean)
> 
> * ACE = Object Security - 10 min (Goran)
>  - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-selander-ace-object-security-= 04
> 
> * = Ephemeral Diffie-Hellman Over COSE =E2=80=93 10 min (Goran)
>  =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-selander-ace-cose-ecdhe/=
> 
> * COSE = Additional Algorithms - 20 min (Jim)
>  =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schaad-cose-alg/
> 
> * CBOR Encoded Message Syntax - 40 min (Jim)
>  =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-msg/
> 
> * Wrap-up - 5 min (Sean)
> 
> Note = that we arrange our WG draft as the last one, which means editor
> can get all the remaining time to go through the open = issues.
> 
> Also = note that Sean Turner will be the acting chair during the meeting.
> Justin and I will dial in remotely.
> 
> The latest version can be found at:
> https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/agenda/agenda-95-cose> 
> Kind Regards
> Kepeng & Justin, = your COSE chairs
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> = _______________________________________________
> COSE = mailing list
> COSE@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose
> 

-------- Original message --------From: Hannes = Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net> Date: 3/27/16  3:34 PM =  (GMT-05:00) To: Kepeng Li <kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.com>, cose@ietf.org Cc: Justin Richer <jricher@mit.edu>, Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> Subject: Re: [COSE] Agenda = proposal 
Hi Kepeng,

the working group = document needs to be the first item on the agenda.

I don't think that the ACE Object Security belong to this = group and I
hate to hear the same presentation given in = multiple groups. We had
discussions in the ACE working = group about the best working group where
this work should = be done and the decision was to do it in CORE. Hence,
we = should not have presentations about it in other groups and I was
actually hoping that Goeran would re-submit the draft with = the correct
file name so that the working group can be = identified correctly.

Ciao
Hannes

On 03/27/2016 05:35 PM, = Kepeng Li wrote:

Hi all,

Here is a proposal = for the agenda of the upcoming meeting:

* = Opening & Welcome - 5 min (Sean)

* ACE = Object Security - 10 min (Goran)
  - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-selander-ace-object-security-= 04

* Ephemeral Diffie-Hellman Over COSE = =E2=80=93 10 min (Goran)
  =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-selander-ace-cose-ecdhe/=

* COSE Additional Algorithms - 20 min = (Jim)
  =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schaad-cose-alg/

* CBOR Encoded Message Syntax - 40 min = (Jim)
  =E2=80=94 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-msg/

* Wrap-up - 5 min (Sean)

Note that we arrange our WG draft as the last one, which = means editor
can get all the remaining time to go through = the open issues.

Also note that Sean Turner = will be the acting chair during the meeting.
Justin and I = will dial in remotely.

The latest version = can be found at:
https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/agenda/agenda-95-cose
Kind Regards
Kepeng & = Justin, your COSE chairs






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