From nobody Mon May 9 05:38:40 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7BB312B077; Mon, 9 May 2016 05:38:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.698 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.698 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=alibaba-inc.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9-39p_oURuOR; Mon, 9 May 2016 05:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out4133-18.mail.aliyun.com (out4133-18.mail.aliyun.com [42.120.133.18]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3EC12D181; Mon, 9 May 2016 05:38:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alibaba-inc.com; s=default; t=1462797505; h=Date:Subject:From:To:Message-ID:Mime-version:Content-type; bh=dCMpT5UTfYmGIkvVFy+J5RS0W1mnTTCjS0d59row+KQ=; b=NjaDaCVy2xDuyYi8gQ+fDOGwxCPuRsKGwMdYknTz+7CUEDQXUYhSjxsmaFgcBbzD3uWMQyPHx6rWI8ejdxbIKsN9WrDszRxWNxVpw9LtdpEVb3rlATm3tY/fTWbLW8eWmfEXs8GdfKRGQz6ABNaGCi09mbb3VFUESreDio31wAQ= X-Alimail-AntiSpam: AC=PASS; BC=-1|-1; BR=01201311R101e4; FP=0|-1|-1|-1|0|-1|-1|-1; HT=e02c03292; MF=kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.com; NM=1; PH=DS; RN=7; SR=0; TI=SMTPD_----4nE16x5_1462797491; Received: from 30.30.150.30(mailfrom:kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.com ip:182.92.253.7) by smtp.aliyun-inc.com(127.0.0.1); Mon, 09 May 2016 20:38:20 +0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.4.8.150116 Date: Mon, 09 May 2016 20:38:11 +0800 From: "Kepeng Li" To: "Kepeng Li" , "ace@ietf.org" Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Ace] Call for adoption for draft-wahlstroem-ace-cbor-web-token-00 Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3545671101_2500699" Archived-At: Cc: Kathleen Moriarty , Hannes Tschofenig , cose@ietf.org, oauth@ietf.org, Stephen Farrell Subject: Re: [COSE] [Ace] Call for adoption for draft-wahlstroem-ace-cbor-web-token-00 X-BeenThere: cose@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 May 2016 12:38:32 -0000 > 此邮件使用 MIME 格式。由于邮件阅读程序不能识别 此格式，因此，可能无法识别该邮件的分部或部分内容。 --B_3545671101_2500699 Content-type: text/plain; charset="GB2312" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable We got several supports and no objections, so it is concluded that the draf= t is adopted as an ACE WG item, with the change that we remove the "web=A1=B0 fro= m the name. Authors: please resubmit the current draft as draft-ietf-ace-cbor-token-00.txt; we will start processing further changes in the WG process.(If you already know about technical issues, please use the WG tracker for now; editorial issues might be tracked easier on github.= ) We will also add this item in our ACE charter. Kind Regards Kepeng (ACE co-chair) =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Li Kepeng =C8=D5=C6=DA: Thursday, 7 April, 2016 9:34 am =D6=C1: "ace@ietf.org" =B3=AD=CB=CD: Kathleen Moriarty , Hannes Tschofenig , , , Stephen Farrell =D6=F7=CC=E2: [Ace] Call for adoption for draft-wahlstroem-ace-cbor-web-token-00 To: ACE WG Cc: OAuth and COSE WG Hello all, This note begins a Call For Adoption for draft-wahlstroem-ace-cbor-web-token-00 [1] to be adopted as an ACE working group item, and added in the charter. The call ends on April 22, 2016. Keep in mind that adoption of a document does not mean the document as-is is ready for publication. It is merely acceptance of the document as a starting point for what will be the final product of the ACE working group. The working group is free to make changes to the document according to the normal consensus process. Please reply on this thread with expressions of support or opposition, preferably with comments, regarding accepting this as a work item. Note that this email was also copied to OAuth and COSE WG, in order to get input from wider audience. Thanks, Kind Regards Kepeng (ACE co-chair) [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wahlstroem-ace-cbor-web-token/ _______________________________________________ Ace mailing list Ace@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ace --B_3545671101_2500699 Content-type: text/html; charset="GB2312" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
We got several supports = and no objections, so it is concluded that the draft is adopted as an ACE WG= item, with the change that we remove the "web“ from the name.<= /div>

Authors: please resubmit the= current draft as draft-ietf-ace-cbor-token-00.txt; we will start processing= further changes in the WG process.(If you already know about technical issues, please use t= he WG tracker for now; editorial issues might be tracked easier on github.)<= /span>
<= br>
We will a= lso add this item in our ACE charter.

Kind Regards
Kepeng (ACE co-chair)

=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Li Kep= eng <kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.c= om>
=C8=D5=C6=DA: Thursday, 7 April= , 2016 9:34 am
=D6=C1: "ace@ietf.org" <ace@ietf= .org>
=B3=AD=CB=CD: Kathleen Moriar= ty <kathleen.moriarty.i= etf@gmail.com>, Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net>, <cose@ietf.org>, <oauth@ietf.= org>, Stephen Farrell <= stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
=D6=F7=CC=E2: [Ace] Call for adoption for draft-wahlstroem-ace-cbor-web-token-00
=

To: ACE WG
Cc: OAuth and COSE WG
<= font face=3D"Courier">

Hello= all,

This note begins a Call For Adoption for draft-wa=
hlstroem-ace-cbor-web-token-00 [1]
to be adopted as an ACE working grou= p item, and added in the charter.
The call = ends on April 22, 2016.

Keep in mind that adoption of a=
 document does not mean the document
as-is is ready for publication. It is merely acceptance of the
document as a starting point for what will be the final product
of the ACE working group. The working group is free to make changes to
the document according to the normal consensus process.

Please reply on this thread with expressions of support or opposition,
preferably with comments, regarding accepting this as a work item.

Note that this email was also copied to OAuth an= d COSE WG, in order to 
get input from wider audience.

Thanks,

Kind Regards
Kepeng (ACE co-chair)


_______________________________________________ Ace mailing list Ace@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/ma= ilman/listinfo/ace --B_3545671101_2500699-- From nobody Mon May 9 07:31:51 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF6312B05A; Mon, 9 May 2016 07:31:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.62 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.62 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JbUVoDqJKGbt; Mon, 9 May 2016 07:31:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slow1-d.mail.gandi.net (slow1-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.178.86]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BACC912B00A; Mon, 9 May 2016 07:31:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (relay3-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.195]) by slow1-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8176A47E163; Mon, 9 May 2016 16:31:37 +0200 (CEST) X-Originating-IP: 134.102.17.95 Received: from eduroam-0351.wlan.uni-bremen.de (eduroam-0351.wlan.uni-bremen.de [134.102.17.95]) (Authenticated sender: cabo@cabo.im) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B528DA80E6; Mon, 9 May 2016 16:31:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <57309F46.9040705@tzi.org> Date: Mon, 09 May 2016 16:31:34 +0200 From: Carsten Bormann User-Agent: Postbox 4.0.8 (Macintosh/20151105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kepeng Li References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Cc: Kathleen Moriarty , Hannes Tschofenig , cose@ietf.org, oauth@ietf.org, "ace@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [COSE] [Ace] Call for adoption for draft-wahlstroem-ace-cbor-web-token-00 X-BeenThere: cose@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 May 2016 14:31:49 -0000 > draft-ietf-ace-cbor-token-00.txt; For the record, I do not think that ACE has a claim on the term "CBOR Token". While the term token is not used in RFC 7049, there are many tokens that could be expressed in CBOR or be used in applying CBOR to a problem. ACE CBOR Token is fine, though. (Or, better, CBOR ACE Token, CAT.) Gr眉脽e, Carsten From nobody Mon May 9 17:49:45 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47FB912D547; Mon, 9 May 2016 17:49:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.197 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.197 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.996, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Bb7RmqT8QjNS; Mon, 9 May 2016 17:49:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-8.mit.edu (dmz-mailsec-scanner-8.mit.edu [18.7.68.37]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A30F912D0BD; Mon, 9 May 2016 17:49:39 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 12074425-c7fff70000005f72-41-573130224aa3 Received: from mailhub-auth-2.mit.edu ( [18.7.62.36]) (using TLS with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 23.49.24434.22031375; Mon, 9 May 2016 20:49:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) by mailhub-auth-2.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id u4A0nbAF013683; Mon, 9 May 2016 20:49:37 -0400 Received: from [10.20.11.38] ([65.115.200.131]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as jricher@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.12.4) with ESMTP id u4A0nUEW015036 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 9 May 2016 20:49:33 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Justin Richer In-Reply-To: <57309F46.9040705@tzi.org> Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 19:49:29 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <89B6F196-D08F-4FBD-9F0D-5B250284048F@mit.edu> References: <57309F46.9040705@tzi.org> To: Carsten Bormann X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprHKsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUixG6noqtkYBhusHyDnMX3bz3MFkem3GW1 mLZ1KqvF0p33WC0aduZbXJ5fZHHy7Ss2B3aPiW8/snjsnHWX3WPxpv1sHkuW/GTymLYoM4A1 issmJTUnsyy1SN8ugSvj9K9LbAX9bBW31t5lb2D8xtLFyMkhIWAi8X3ZZCCbi0NIoI1J4lP/ HlYIZwOjxLp5jVCZ1UwSZ6ZcBGthFlCX+DPvEjOIzSugJ7Fp/VsmEFtYIEzix76vrCA2m4Cq xPQ1LWBxTqD6OXPOgPWyCKhI7Pw1mxlkKLPAX0aJ2xOfsEMM1ZZYtvA11FAriUNHVwI1cwBt DpJom2sGEhYRUJK4cHENG8TZshJPTi5imcAoMAvJSbOQnDQLydQFjMyrGGVTcqt0cxMzc4pT k3WLkxPz8lKLdC30cjNL9FJTSjcxgoPeRXUH45y/XocYBTgYlXh4d3AZhguxJpYVV+YeYpTk YFIS5XVl1AsX4kvKT6nMSCzOiC8qzUktPsQowcGsJMJ7Tw+onDclsbIqtSgfJiXNwaIkzsvI wMAgJJCeWJKanZpakFoEk5Xh4FCS4H0A0ihYlJqeWpGWmVOCkGbi4AQZzgM0vBdseHFBYm5x ZjpE/hSjLseCH7fXMgmx5OXnpUqJ8/KBFAmAFGWU5sHNASUrx+ITza8YxYHeEuZl0weq4gEm OrhJr4CWMAEtkWPTB1lSkoiQkmpg5Gk1VtLRu84sejRua9lC4RduyrFLT7PXFZs9lDKUOV/A nRO/7kHC3fMH1HK9nZPi/s/n/cZ/8sbtDONGiadbj7mtN37829fribwIy5rvS50+zdt+fcsh 0Yn7fjx6Oqf3Hkd5l4ybvWvv8aUCzGvaZ9+rNjMv1Jm0Z/GKNB0W9VwdyYuvG29fVGIpzkg0 1GIuKk4EADn0NyMxAwAA Archived-At: Cc: Kathleen Moriarty , Kepeng Li , "ace@ietf.org" , Hannes Tschofenig , "" , cose@ietf.org Subject: Re: [COSE] [Ace] Call for adoption for draft-wahlstroem-ace-cbor-web-token-00 X-BeenThere: cose@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 00:49:44 -0000 We can also call it the =E2=80=9CCOSE Token=E2=80=9D. As a chair of the = COSE working group, I=E2=80=99m fine with that amount of co-branding. =E2=80=94 Justin > On May 9, 2016, at 9:31 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote: >=20 >> draft-ietf-ace-cbor-token-00.txt;=20 >=20 > For the record, I do not think that ACE has a claim on the term "CBOR > Token". While the term token is not used in RFC 7049, there are many > tokens that could be expressed in CBOR or be used in applying CBOR to = a > problem. >=20 > ACE CBOR Token is fine, though. > (Or, better, CBOR ACE Token, CAT.) >=20 > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten >=20 > _______________________________________________ > COSE mailing list > COSE@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose From nobody Tue May 10 01:44:00 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5042B12D1E0 for ; Tue, 10 May 2016 01:43:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=wahlstromstekniska-se.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NbMZ7I_LUDmf for ; Tue, 10 May 2016 01:43:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lf0-x229.google.com (mail-lf0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 450D112D53E for ; Tue, 10 May 2016 01:43:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lf0-x229.google.com with SMTP id u64so6730021lff.3 for ; Tue, 10 May 2016 01:43:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wahlstromstekniska-se.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=tSby/1R0Lu9eXQstX/YJ8XL0DFyOGbnRpVwShspzJqQ=; b=bPn/lEO5kS4Z++5m6QFNKEByjjHK3+PrBS3KwJF4F9RCPcxHGXrC7qiP4WyqvWN+xf Azla7jnU189E87xVsV8HZLfktl+MgPT7OlFha5k3HVGmlYbJpM3m08zgJqWtXxIfTDgj UZJxCGyCOstbRyQUM64xvs9o873H3c9e1vjacV185/20phKH8Psy7xljbdxGx0YBnO8X ePh/uSubc0Yxqmy75jQZY1XSEZMpElGQIRQovERTXvDWrrKU4SmK/LSx4JXabbjudqho 6BdE4vK2SCyQZKMcIRnL75XUXlvoF5R/EmeGbd1Wf0Y8LXqolvt5cCVUuTN1wh8W1HGL qmVw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=tSby/1R0Lu9eXQstX/YJ8XL0DFyOGbnRpVwShspzJqQ=; b=U0zxaRf7iv+qSpvOzoZMoOcDl0ol+yekUBI0AzzW1Ys4DxopG8dak88popp4QD2Eh2 3l2qpHsHX6dXI/4G34d4pXNNzSoEoz/bbGgH864i2exav6Fv/QhtwN4gE4volVL+QJ0F 7wY1TISUttX09uUPa6Mab2m72bznjttb+6MzH0LDJTYZdbv29GkOQO9JOkAoqRKrddsq BwK4AktDnvcLcJJQ+1R/8xRZiZKHBYYEqi5bfjjaNIrFAc1+bSNMi4FofSxdY0tyVe6X ZQuvGyicQXRyh8okB2F7+wRC8yp9/7E/i69fcRoInAgUJMRUyGBsJ77WAMPc+OArgG0y t59g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FWK+eQZ9p4NB/0M87/QyziJj0ol0YnftQTRVKp30hiYnq6BfpotAqhLyrRuuCiDHInGlla8ANXyJXqaSQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.25.22.19 with SMTP id m19mr17054764lfi.118.1462869830177; Tue, 10 May 2016 01:43:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.136.5 with HTTP; Tue, 10 May 2016 01:43:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [37.247.26.197] In-Reply-To: <89B6F196-D08F-4FBD-9F0D-5B250284048F@mit.edu> References: <57309F46.9040705@tzi.org> <89B6F196-D08F-4FBD-9F0D-5B250284048F@mit.edu> Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 10:43:50 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Erik_Wahlstr=C3=B6m?= To: Justin Richer Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11406a9c94ae0a053278ec62 Archived-At: Cc: Kathleen Moriarty , Kepeng Li , "ace@ietf.org" , Carsten Bormann , Hannes Tschofenig , "" , cose Subject: Re: [COSE] [Ace] Call for adoption for draft-wahlstroem-ace-cbor-web-token-00 X-BeenThere: cose@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 08:43:57 -0000 --001a11406a9c94ae0a053278ec62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Or keep the CBOR Web Token (CWT) for two major reasons: - To show the very close relationship to JWT. It relies heavily on JWT and it's iana registry. It is essentially a JWT but in CBOR/COSE instead of JSON/JOSE. - I would not say that JWT is the only format that works for the web, and it's even used in other, non-traditional, web protocols. That means I don't have a problem with the W in CWT at all. Why would JSON be the only web protocol? Then we also have one smaller (a lot smaller) reason, it's the fact that it can be called "cot" just like JWT is called a "jot" and I figured that our "cozy chairs" would very much like that fact because then it's essentially a "cozy cot" :) / Erik On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 2:49 AM, Justin Richer wrote: > We can also call it the =E2=80=9CCOSE Token=E2=80=9D. As a chair of the C= OSE working > group, I=E2=80=99m fine with that amount of co-branding. > > =E2=80=94 Justin > > > On May 9, 2016, at 9:31 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote: > > > >> draft-ietf-ace-cbor-token-00.txt; > > > > For the record, I do not think that ACE has a claim on the term "CBOR > > Token". While the term token is not used in RFC 7049, there are many > > tokens that could be expressed in CBOR or be used in applying CBOR to a > > problem. > > > > ACE CBOR Token is fine, though. > > (Or, better, CBOR ACE Token, CAT.) > > > > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten > > > > _______________________________________________ > > COSE mailing list > > COSE@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose > > _______________________________________________ > Ace mailing list > Ace@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ace > --001a11406a9c94ae0a053278ec62 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Or keep the CBOR Web Token (CWT) for two major reasons:- To show the very close relationship to JWT. It relies heavily on JWT an= d it's iana registry. It is essentially a JWT but in CBOR/COSE instead = of JSON/JOSE.
- I would not say that JWT is the only format that = works for the web, and it's even used in other, non-traditional, web pr= otocols. That means I don't have a problem with the W in CWT at all. Wh= y would JSON be the only web protocol?

Then we als= o have one smaller (a lot smaller) reason, it's the fact that it can be= called "cot" just like JWT is called a "jot" and I fig= ured that our "cozy chairs" would very much like that fact becaus= e then it's essentially a "cozy cot" :)

<= div>/ Erik


On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 2:49 AM, Justin Richer <jricher@= mit.edu> wrote:
We can also= call it the =E2=80=9CCOSE Token=E2=80=9D. As a chair of the COSE working g= roup, I=E2=80=99m fine with that amount of co-branding.

=C2=A0=E2=80=94 Justin

> On May 9, 2016, at 9:31 AM, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
>
>> draft-ietf-ace-cbor-token-00.txt;
>
> For the record, I do not think that ACE has a claim on the term "= CBOR
> Token".=C2=A0 While the term token is not used in RFC 7049, there= are many
> tokens that could be expressed in CBOR or be used in applying CBOR to = a
> problem.
>
> ACE CBOR Token is fine, though.
> (Or, better, CBOR ACE Token, CAT.)
>
> Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten
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<5E85AFAC-07D3-4499-A5B2-5FEC69409913@mit.edu> References: <57309F46.9040705@tzi.org> <89B6F196-D08F-4FBD-9F0D-5B250284048F@mit.edu> To: Mike Jones X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrAKsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUixG6nrrv/lmG4wbN5ahbfv/UwWxyZcpfV YtrWqawWXyc0sVos3XmP1aJhZ77F5flFFnunfWKxOPn2FZsDp8fEtx9ZPHbOusvusXjTfjaP JUt+Mnm07vjL7jFtUabHmmkzWALYo7hsUlJzMstSi/TtErgyuh9dYCo408pYce9+A1sD48Li LkZODgkBE4kDf48xdzFycQgJtDFJvLz5nhHC2cgocW/JZVYIZw2TxJHj51hAWpgFEiRuv1oI ZvMK6ElsWv+WCcQWFgiTaPx9E8xmE1CVmL6mBczmFEiUOHr8OzuIzQIUv/pzL9hQZoEvTBKz p/0EcjiABllJzNwlCLFsNpPEvgWTWUEaRAR0JB5f/MYGcausxJOTi1gmMPLPQnLHLCR3QMS1 JZYtfM0MYWtK7O9ezoIpriHR+W0i6wJGtlWMsim5Vbq5iZk5xanJusXJiXl5qUW6Znq5mSV6 qSmlmxjBEeWivIPxZZ/3IUYBDkYlHt4dXIbhQqyJZcWVuYcYJTmYlER5BacAhfiS8lMqMxKL M+KLSnNSiw8xSnAwK4nwRl4GyvGmJFZWpRblw6SkOViUxHkZGRgYhATSE0tSs1NTC1KLYLIy HBxKEryzbgI1ChalpqdWpGXmlCCkmTg4QYbzAA2fC1LDW1yQmFucmQ6RP8WoKCXOWwWSEABJ 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like HTTP headers and HTML = pages, then it has no business being called a =E2=80=9CWeb=E2=80=9D = anything. As it is, it=E2=80=99s a binary encoding that would need an = additional wrapper, like base64url perhaps, to be placed into web = spaces. It can be used in CoAP and native CBOR structures as-is, which = is what it=E2=80=99s designed to do.=20 The =E2=80=9Cweb=E2=80=9D part of JWT is very important. A JWT can be = used, as-is, in any part of an HTTP message: headers, query, form, etc. = It can also be encoded as a string in other data structures in just = about any language without any additional transformation, including = HTML, XML, and JSON. This makes the JWT very =E2=80=9Cwebby=E2=80=9D, = and this is a feature set that this new token doesn=E2=80=99t share. = Ergo, it has no business being called a =E2=80=9Cweb=E2=80=9D token = regardless of its heritage.=20 Both CBOR Token and COSE Token are fine with me.=20 =E2=80=94 Justin > On May 10, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Mike Jones = wrote: >=20 > I also feel strongly that the name should remain CBOR Web Token. CWT = is a beneficiary of the intellectual and deployment heritage from the = Simple Web Token (SWT) and JSON Web Token (JWT). CWT is intentionally = parallel to JWT. The name should stay parallel as well. > =20 > The =E2=80=9CWeb=E2=80=9D part of the =E2=80=9CCBOR Web Token=E2=80=9D = name can be taken as a reference to the Web of Things (see = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_Things = ). As Erik correctly = points out JSON is not the only data representation that makes things in = the Web and the Web of Things. > =20 > -- Mike > =C2=A0 <> > From: Ace [mailto:ace-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Erik Wahlstr=C3=B6m= > Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:44 AM > To: Justin Richer > Cc: Kathleen Moriarty ; Kepeng Li = ; ace@ietf.org; Carsten Bormann = ; Hannes Tschofenig ; = ; cose > Subject: Re: [Ace] [COSE] Call for adoption for = draft-wahlstroem-ace-cbor-web-token-00 > =20 > Or keep the CBOR Web Token (CWT) for two major reasons: > - To show the very close relationship to JWT. It relies heavily on JWT = and it's iana registry. It is essentially a JWT but in CBOR/COSE instead = of JSON/JOSE. > - I would not say that JWT is the only format that works for the web, = and it's even used in other, non-traditional, web protocols. That means = I don't have a problem with the W in CWT at all. Why would JSON be the = only web protocol? > =20 > Then we also have one smaller (a lot smaller) reason, it's the fact = that it can be called "cot" just like JWT is called a "jot" and I = figured that our "cozy chairs" would very much like that fact because = then it's essentially a "cozy cot" :) > =20 > / Erik > =20 > =20 > On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 2:49 AM, Justin Richer > wrote: > We can also call it the =E2=80=9CCOSE Token=E2=80=9D. As a chair of = the COSE working group, I=E2=80=99m fine with that amount of = co-branding. >=20 > =E2=80=94 Justin >=20 > > On May 9, 2016, at 9:31 AM, Carsten Bormann > wrote: > > > >> draft-ietf-ace-cbor-token-00.txt; > > > > For the record, I do not think that ACE has a claim on the term = "CBOR > > Token". While the term token is not used in RFC 7049, there are = many > > tokens that could be expressed in CBOR or be used in applying CBOR = to a > > problem. > > > > ACE CBOR Token is fine, though. > > (Or, better, CBOR ACE Token, CAT.) > > > > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten > > > > _______________________________________________ > > COSE mailing list > > COSE@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose = >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Ace mailing list > Ace@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ace = --Apple-Mail=_EF532274-2CD8-4C78-BC6B-DE6F810A1E2D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 You=E2=80=99re missing my original complaint: Until this = token can be directly encoded into web technologies, like HTTP headers = and HTML pages, then it has no business being called a =E2=80=9CWeb=E2=80=9D= anything. As it is, it=E2=80=99s a binary encoding that would need an = additional wrapper, like base64url perhaps, to be placed into web = spaces. It can be used in CoAP and native CBOR structures as-is, which = is what it=E2=80=99s designed to do. 

The =E2=80=9Cweb=E2=80=9D part of JWT = is very important. A JWT can be used, as-is, in any part of an HTTP = message: headers, query, form, etc. It can also be encoded as a string = in other data structures in just about any language without any = additional transformation, including HTML, XML, and JSON. This makes the = JWT very =E2=80=9Cwebby=E2=80=9D, and this is a feature set that this = new token doesn=E2=80=99t share. Ergo, it has no business being called a = =E2=80=9Cweb=E2=80=9D token regardless of its heritage. 

Both CBOR Token and COSE = Token are fine with me. 

 =E2=80=94 Justin

On May 10, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com> wrote:

I also feel strongly that the name should = remain CBOR Web Token.  CWT is a beneficiary of the intellectual = and deployment heritage from the Simple Web Token (SWT) and JSON Web = Token (JWT).  CWT is intentionally parallel to JWT.  The name = should stay parallel as well.
 
The =E2=80=9CWeb=E2=80=9D = part of the =E2=80=9CCBOR Web Token=E2=80=9D name can be taken as a = reference to the Web of Things (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_Things).  As = Erik correctly points out JSON is not the only data representation that = makes things in the Web and the Web of Things.
 
          &nb= sp;            = ;            &= nbsp;           &nb= sp;          -- Mike
 
From: Ace [mailto:ace-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf = Of Erik = Wahlstr=C3=B6m
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:44 = AM
To: Justin Richer <jricher@mit.edu>
Cc: Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>; Kepeng Li <kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.com>; ace@ietf.org; Carsten = Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>; Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net>; <oauth@ietf.org> <oauth@ietf.org>; cose = <cose@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Ace] [COSE] Call for = adoption for draft-wahlstroem-ace-cbor-web-token-00
 
Or keep the CBOR Web Token (CWT) for two major reasons:
- To show the very close relationship to JWT. It relies = heavily on JWT and it's iana registry. It is essentially a JWT but in = CBOR/COSE instead of JSON/JOSE.
- I would not say = that JWT is the only format that works for the web, and it's even used = in other, non-traditional, web protocols. That means I don't have a = problem with the W in CWT at all. Why would JSON be the only web = protocol?
 
Then we also have one smaller (a lot smaller) reason, = it's the fact that it can be called "cot" just like JWT is called a = "jot" and I figured that our "cozy chairs" would very much like that = fact because then it's essentially a "cozy cot" :)
 
/ Erik
 
 
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 2:49 AM, Justin Richer <jricher@mit.edu> = wrote:
We = can also call it the =E2=80=9CCOSE Token=E2=80=9D. As a chair of the = COSE working group, I=E2=80=99m fine with that amount of co-branding.

 =E2=80=94 Justin

> On May 9, 2016, at 9:31 AM, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
>
>> draft-ietf-ace-cbor-token-00.txt;
>
> For the record, I do not think that = ACE has a claim on the term "CBOR
> Token".  While = the term token is not used in RFC 7049, there are many
> = tokens that could be expressed in CBOR or be used in applying CBOR to = a
> problem.
>
> ACE = CBOR Token is fine, though.
> (Or, better, CBOR ACE = Token, CAT.)
>
> Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, = Carsten
>
> = _______________________________________________
> COSE = mailing list
> COSE@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose

_______________________________________________
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= --Apple-Mail=_EF532274-2CD8-4C78-BC6B-DE6F810A1E2D-- From nobody Tue May 10 08:16:27 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FEC212D704; Tue, 10 May 2016 08:14:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.215 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.215 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.996, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Afx2e5YWakx4; Tue, 10 May 2016 08:14:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com (aserp1040.oracle.com [141.146.126.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF31012D6FC; Tue, 10 May 2016 08:14:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u4AFES5h017962 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 10 May 2016 15:14:28 GMT Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u4AFER06014933 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 10 May 2016 15:14:28 GMT Received: from abhmp0009.oracle.com (abhmp0009.oracle.com [141.146.116.15]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u4AFEQIq027188; Tue, 10 May 2016 15:14:26 GMT Received: from [10.0.1.3] (/24.86.216.17) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 10 May 2016 08:14:25 -0700 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-12FBE324-A738-4D06-97CC-03AF56B063ED Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: "Phil Hunt (IDM)" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13E238) In-Reply-To: <5E85AFAC-07D3-4499-A5B2-5FEC69409913@mit.edu> Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 08:14:22 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <7C5768D4-8293-49E4-B8A6-49910E9C4372@oracle.com> References: <57309F46.9040705@tzi.org> <89B6F196-D08F-4FBD-9F0D-5B250284048F@mit.edu> <5E85AFAC-07D3-4499-A5B2-5FEC69409913@mit.edu> To: Justin Richer X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 10 May 2016 08:16:27 -0700 Cc: =?utf-8?Q?Erik_Wahlstr=C3=B6m?= , Kathleen Moriarty , Mike Jones , Kepeng Li , "ace@ietf.org" , Carsten Bormann , Hannes Tschofenig , "" , cose Subject: Re: [COSE] [Ace] Call for adoption for draft-wahlstroem-ace-cbor-web-token-00 X-BeenThere: cose@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 15:14:50 -0000 --Apple-Mail-12FBE324-A738-4D06-97CC-03AF56B063ED Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't have this issue. I see your point, but I think the constrained brand= ing makes it clear.=20 IOW. When the specs say "constrained web" the use means to me that the token= s for the constrained set of binary protocols which all tend to be in parall= el architecture with web apis anyway. =20 Phil > On May 10, 2016, at 05:57, Justin Richer wrote: >=20 > You=E2=80=99re missing my original complaint: Until this token can be dire= ctly encoded into web technologies, like HTTP headers and HTML pages, then i= t has no business being called a =E2=80=9CWeb=E2=80=9D anything. As it is, i= t=E2=80=99s a binary encoding that would need an additional wrapper, like ba= se64url perhaps, to be placed into web spaces. It can be used in CoAP and na= tive CBOR structures as-is, which is what it=E2=80=99s designed to do.=20 >=20 > The =E2=80=9Cweb=E2=80=9D part of JWT is very important. A JWT can be used= , as-is, in any part of an HTTP message: headers, query, form, etc. It can a= lso be encoded as a string in other data structures in just about any langua= ge without any additional transformation, including HTML, XML, and JSON. Thi= s makes the JWT very =E2=80=9Cwebby=E2=80=9D, and this is a feature set that= this new token doesn=E2=80=99t share. Ergo, it has no business being called= a =E2=80=9Cweb=E2=80=9D token regardless of its heritage.=20 >=20 > Both CBOR Token and COSE Token are fine with me.=20 >=20 > =E2=80=94 Justin >=20 >> On May 10, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Mike Jones wro= te: >>=20 >> I also feel strongly that the name should remain CBOR Web Token. CWT is a= beneficiary of the intellectual and deployment heritage from the Simple Web= Token (SWT) and JSON Web Token (JWT). CWT is intentionally parallel to JWT= . The name should stay parallel as well. >> =20 >> The =E2=80=9CWeb=E2=80=9D part of the =E2=80=9CCBOR Web Token=E2=80=9D na= me can be taken as a reference to the Web of Things (see https://en.wikipedi= a.org/wiki/Web_of_Things). As Erik correctly points out JSON is not the onl= y data representation that makes things in the Web and the Web of Things. >> =20 >> -- Mike >> =20 >> From: Ace [mailto:ace-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Erik Wahlstr=C3=B6m >> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:44 AM >> To: Justin Richer >> Cc: Kathleen Moriarty ; Kepeng Li ; ace@ietf.org; Carsten Bormann ; Hanne= s Tschofenig ; ;= cose >> Subject: Re: [Ace] [COSE] Call for adoption for draft-wahlstroem-ace-cbor= -web-token-00 >> =20 >> Or keep the CBOR Web Token (CWT) for two major reasons: >> - To show the very close relationship to JWT. It relies heavily on JWT an= d it's iana registry. It is essentially a JWT but in CBOR/COSE instead of JS= ON/JOSE. >> - I would not say that JWT is the only format that works for the web, and= it's even used in other, non-traditional, web protocols. That means I don't= have a problem with the W in CWT at all. Why would JSON be the only web pro= tocol? >> =20 >> Then we also have one smaller (a lot smaller) reason, it's the fact that i= t can be called "cot" just like JWT is called a "jot" and I figured that our= "cozy chairs" would very much like that fact because then it's essentially a= "cozy cot" :) >> =20 >> / Erik >> =20 >> =20 >> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 2:49 AM, Justin Richer wrote: >> We can also call it the =E2=80=9CCOSE Token=E2=80=9D. As a chair of the C= OSE working group, I=E2=80=99m fine with that amount of co-branding. >>=20 >> =E2=80=94 Justin >>=20 >> > On May 9, 2016, at 9:31 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote: >> > >> >> draft-ietf-ace-cbor-token-00.txt; >> > >> > For the record, I do not think that ACE has a claim on the term "CBOR >> > Token". While the term token is not used in RFC 7049, there are many >> > tokens that could be expressed in CBOR or be used in applying CBOR to a= >> > problem. >> > >> > ACE CBOR Token is fine, though. >> > (Or, better, CBOR ACE Token, CAT.) >> > >> > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > COSE mailing list >> > COSE@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Ace mailing list >> Ace@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ace >=20 > _______________________________________________ > COSE mailing list > COSE@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose --Apple-Mail-12FBE324-A738-4D06-97CC-03AF56B063ED Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I don't have this issue. I see your po= int, but I think the constrained branding makes it clear. 

IOW. When t= he specs say "constrained web" the use means to me that the tokens for the c= onstrained set of binary protocols which all tend to be in parallel architec= ture with web apis anyway.  

Phil

On May 10, 2016,= at 05:57, Justin Richer <jricher@mit.= edu> wrote:

You=E2=80=99re mi= ssing my original complaint: Until this token can be directly encoded into w= eb technologies, like HTTP headers and HTML pages, then it has no business b= eing called a =E2=80=9CWeb=E2=80=9D anything. As it is, it=E2=80=99s a binar= y encoding that would need an additional wrapper, like base64url perhaps, to= be placed into web spaces. It can be used in CoAP and native CBOR structure= s as-is, which is what it=E2=80=99s designed to do. 
The =E2=80=9Cweb=E2=80=9D part of JWT is v= ery important. A JWT can be used, as-is, in any part of an HTTP message: hea= ders, query, form, etc. It can also be encoded as a string in other data str= uctures in just about any language without any additional transformation, in= cluding HTML, XML, and JSON. This makes the JWT very =E2=80=9Cwebby=E2=80=9D= , and this is a feature set that this new token doesn=E2=80=99t share. Ergo,= it has no business being called a =E2=80=9Cweb=E2=80=9D token regardless of= its heritage. 

Both CBOR Token and COSE Token are fine with me. 

 =E2=80=94 Justin

On May 10, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com> w= rote:

I also feel strongly that the name should remain CBOR Web T= oken.  CWT is a beneficiary of the intellectual and deployment heritage= from the Simple Web Token (SWT) and JSON Web Token (JWT).  CWT is inte= ntionally parallel to JWT.  The name should stay parallel as well.
 
The =E2=80=9CWeb=E2=80=9D part of the =E2=80= =9CCBOR Web Token=E2=80=9D name can be taken as a reference to the Web of Th= ings (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_Things)= .  As Erik correctly points out JSON is not the only data representatio= n that makes things in the Web and the Web of Things.<= /span>
 
          &n= bsp;            =             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;         -- Mike=
 
From: Ace [= mailto:ace-bounces@ietf.o= rg] On B= ehalf Of Erik Wahlstr=C3= =B6m
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:44 AM
T= o: Justin Richer <<= a href=3D"mailto:jricher@mit.edu" class=3D"">jricher@mit.edu>
Cc: Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>; Kepeng Li <kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.com>; ace@ietf.org; Carsten B= ormann <cabo@tzi.org>; H= annes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net>; <oauth@ietf.org> <oauth@ietf.org>; cose <cose@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Ace] [COSE] Call for adoption f= or draft-wahlstroem-ace-cbor-web-token-00
=
 
Or keep the CBOR Web Token (CWT) for tw= o major reasons:
- To show the very close relationship to JWT. It relies heav= ily on JWT and it's iana registry. It is essentially a JWT but in CBOR/COSE i= nstead of JSON/JOSE.
- I would not say that JWT is the only format that= works for the web, and it's even used in other, non-traditional, web protoc= ols. That means I don't have a problem with the W in CWT at all. Why would J= SON be the only web protocol?
 
<= div class=3D"">
Then we also have one smaller= (a lot smaller) reason, it's the fact that it can be called "cot" just like= JWT is called a "jot" and I figured that our "cozy chairs" would very much l= ike that fact because then it's essentially a "cozy cot" :)<= /o:p>
 
/= Erik
 
 
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 2:49 AM, Justin Ri= cher <jricher@mit.edu> wr= ote:
=
We can also call it the =E2=80=9CCOSE Token=E2= =80=9D. As a chair of the COSE working group, I=E2=80=99m fine with that amo= unt of co-branding.

 =E2=80=94 Justin

> On May 9, 2016, at 9:31 AM, Carsten Bormann &l= t;cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
>
>> draft-ietf-ace-cbor-token-00.txt;
>
> For the record, I do not think that ACE has a claim on the term "= CBOR
> Token".  While the term token is not used in RFC= 7049, there are many
> tokens that could be expressed in C= BOR or be used in applying CBOR to a
> problem.
>
> ACE CBOR Token is fine, though.
>= ; (Or, better, CBOR ACE Token, CAT.)
>
> G= r=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten
>
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> COSE mailing list
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I see your point, but I think the constrained = branding makes it clear.=20 >=20 > IOW. When the specs say "constrained web" the use means to me that the = tokens for the constrained set of binary protocols which all tend to be = in parallel architecture with web apis anyway. =20 >=20 > Phil >=20 > On May 10, 2016, at 05:57, Justin Richer > wrote: >=20 >> You=E2=80=99re missing my original complaint: Until this token can be = directly encoded into web technologies, like HTTP headers and HTML = pages, then it has no business being called a =E2=80=9CWeb=E2=80=9D = anything. As it is, it=E2=80=99s a binary encoding that would need an = additional wrapper, like base64url perhaps, to be placed into web = spaces. It can be used in CoAP and native CBOR structures as-is, which = is what it=E2=80=99s designed to do.=20 >>=20 >> The =E2=80=9Cweb=E2=80=9D part of JWT is very important. A JWT can be = used, as-is, in any part of an HTTP message: headers, query, form, etc. = It can also be encoded as a string in other data structures in just = about any language without any additional transformation, including = HTML, XML, and JSON. This makes the JWT very =E2=80=9Cwebby=E2=80=9D, = and this is a feature set that this new token doesn=E2=80=99t share. = Ergo, it has no business being called a =E2=80=9Cweb=E2=80=9D token = regardless of its heritage.=20 >>=20 >> Both CBOR Token and COSE Token are fine with me.=20 >>=20 >> =E2=80=94 Justin >>=20 >>> On May 10, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Mike Jones > wrote: >>>=20 >>> I also feel strongly that the name should remain CBOR Web Token. = CWT is a beneficiary of the intellectual and deployment heritage from = the Simple Web Token (SWT) and JSON Web Token (JWT). CWT is = intentionally parallel to JWT. The name should stay parallel as well. >>> =20 >>> The =E2=80=9CWeb=E2=80=9D part of the =E2=80=9CCBOR Web Token=E2=80=9D= name can be taken as a reference to the Web of Things (see = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_Things = ). As Erik correctly = points out JSON is not the only data representation that makes things in = the Web and the Web of Things. >>> =20 >>> -- Mike >>> =C2=A0 <> >>> From: Ace [mailto:ace-bounces@ietf.org = ] On Behalf Of Erik Wahlstr=C3=B6m >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:44 AM >>> To: Justin Richer > >>> Cc: Kathleen Moriarty >; Kepeng Li = >; = ace@ietf.org ; Carsten Bormann >; Hannes Tschofenig >; > >; cose = > >>> Subject: Re: [Ace] [COSE] Call for adoption for = draft-wahlstroem-ace-cbor-web-token-00 >>> =20 >>> Or keep the CBOR Web Token (CWT) for two major reasons: >>> - To show the very close relationship to JWT. It relies heavily on = JWT and it's iana registry. It is essentially a JWT but in CBOR/COSE = instead of JSON/JOSE. >>> - I would not say that JWT is the only format that works for the = web, and it's even used in other, non-traditional, web protocols. That = means I don't have a problem with the W in CWT at all. Why would JSON be = the only web protocol? >>> =20 >>> Then we also have one smaller (a lot smaller) reason, it's the fact = that it can be called "cot" just like JWT is called a "jot" and I = figured that our "cozy chairs" would very much like that fact because = then it's essentially a "cozy cot" :) >>> =20 >>> / Erik >>> =20 >>> =20 >>> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 2:49 AM, Justin Richer > wrote: >>> We can also call it the =E2=80=9CCOSE Token=E2=80=9D. As a chair of = the COSE working group, I=E2=80=99m fine with that amount of = co-branding. >>>=20 >>> =E2=80=94 Justin >>>=20 >>> > On May 9, 2016, at 9:31 AM, Carsten Bormann > wrote: >>> > >>> >> draft-ietf-ace-cbor-token-00.txt; >>> > >>> > For the record, I do not think that ACE has a claim on the term = "CBOR >>> > Token". While the term token is not used in RFC 7049, there are = many >>> > tokens that could be expressed in CBOR or be used in applying CBOR = to a >>> > problem. >>> > >>> > ACE CBOR Token is fine, though. >>> > (Or, better, CBOR ACE Token, CAT.) >>> > >>> > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > COSE mailing list >>> > COSE@ietf.org >>> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose = >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ace mailing list >>> Ace@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ace = >> _______________________________________________ >> COSE mailing list >> COSE@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose = --Apple-Mail=_15349204-7853-440C-A5EB-97A087AE6A22 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Then how about the ACE Constrained Token (ACT)?

 =E2=80=94 = Justin

On May 10, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Phil Hunt (IDM) = <phil.hunt@oracle.com> wrote:

I don't have = this issue. I see your point, but I think the constrained branding makes = it clear. 

IOW. When the specs say "constrained web" the use means to me = that the tokens for the constrained set of binary protocols which all = tend to be in parallel architecture with web apis anyway.  

Phil

On = May 10, 2016, at 05:57, Justin Richer <jricher@mit.edu> = wrote:

You=E2=80=99re missing my original complaint: = Until this token can be directly encoded into web technologies, like = HTTP headers and HTML pages, then it has no business being called a = =E2=80=9CWeb=E2=80=9D anything. As it is, it=E2=80=99s a binary encoding = that would need an additional wrapper, like base64url perhaps, to be = placed into web spaces. It can be used in CoAP and native CBOR = structures as-is, which is what it=E2=80=99s designed to do. 

The =E2=80=9Cweb=E2=80=9D = part of JWT is very important. A JWT can be used, as-is, in any part of = an HTTP message: headers, query, form, etc. It can also be encoded as a = string in other data structures in just about any language without any = additional transformation, including HTML, XML, and JSON. This makes the = JWT very =E2=80=9Cwebby=E2=80=9D, and this is a feature set that this = new token doesn=E2=80=99t share. Ergo, it has no business being called a = =E2=80=9Cweb=E2=80=9D token regardless of its heritage. 

Both CBOR Token and COSE = Token are fine with me. 

 =E2=80=94 Justin

On May 10, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Mike Jones = <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com> wrote:

I also feel strongly that the name should = remain CBOR Web Token.  CWT is a beneficiary of the intellectual = and deployment heritage from the Simple Web Token (SWT) and JSON Web = Token (JWT).  CWT is intentionally parallel to JWT.  The name = should stay parallel as well.
 
The =E2=80=9CWeb=E2=80=9D = part of the =E2=80=9CCBOR Web Token=E2=80=9D name can be taken as a = reference to the Web of Things (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_Things).  As = Erik correctly points out JSON is not the only data representation that = makes things in the Web and the Web of Things.
 
          &nb= sp;            = ;            &= nbsp;           &nb= sp;          -- Mike
 
From: Ace [mailto:ace-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf = Of Erik = Wahlstr=C3=B6m
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:44 = AM
To: Justin Richer <jricher@mit.edu>
Cc: Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>; Kepeng Li <kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.com>; ace@ietf.org; Carsten = Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>; Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net>; <oauth@ietf.org> <oauth@ietf.org>; cose = <cose@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Ace] [COSE] Call for = adoption for draft-wahlstroem-ace-cbor-web-token-00
 
Or keep the CBOR Web Token (CWT) for two major reasons:
- To show the very close relationship to JWT. It relies = heavily on JWT and it's iana registry. It is essentially a JWT but in = CBOR/COSE instead of JSON/JOSE.
- I would not say = that JWT is the only format that works for the web, and it's even used = in other, non-traditional, web protocols. That means I don't have a = problem with the W in CWT at all. Why would JSON be the only web = protocol?
 
Then we also have one smaller (a lot smaller) reason, = it's the fact that it can be called "cot" just like JWT is called a = "jot" and I figured that our "cozy chairs" would very much like that = fact because then it's essentially a "cozy cot" :)
 
/ Erik
 
 
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 2:49 AM, Justin Richer <jricher@mit.edu> = wrote:
We = can also call it the =E2=80=9CCOSE Token=E2=80=9D. As a chair of the = COSE working group, I=E2=80=99m fine with that amount of co-branding.

 =E2=80=94 Justin

> On May 9, 2016, at 9:31 AM, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
>
>> draft-ietf-ace-cbor-token-00.txt;
>
> For the record, I do not think that = ACE has a claim on the term "CBOR
> Token".  While = the term token is not used in RFC 7049, there are many
> = tokens that could be expressed in CBOR or be used in applying CBOR to = a
> problem.
>
> ACE = CBOR Token is fine, though.
> (Or, better, CBOR ACE = Token, CAT.)
>
> Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, = Carsten
>
> = _______________________________________________
> COSE = mailing list
> COSE@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose

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Even so that it should actually be handled in the draft. Scenario: In the continuum of large and small devices an unconstrained client and AS goes through the hoops of issuing a token using standard (HTTP/JSON). The Resource Server however is constrained and would very much like a CWT when it communicates with the Client. That means that in the AS to Client response from the token endpoint the binary token should actually be wrapped by base64url. I can definitely see that being added to the draft. / Erik On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Justin Richer wrote: > You=E2=80=99re missing my original complaint: Until this token can be dir= ectly > encoded into web technologies, like HTTP headers and HTML pages, then it > has no business being called a =E2=80=9CWeb=E2=80=9D anything. As it is, = it=E2=80=99s a binary > encoding that would need an additional wrapper, like base64url perhaps, t= o > be placed into web spaces. It can be used in CoAP and native CBOR > structures as-is, which is what it=E2=80=99s designed to do. > > The =E2=80=9Cweb=E2=80=9D part of JWT is very important. A JWT can be use= d, as-is, in any > part of an HTTP message: headers, query, form, etc. It can also be encode= d > as a string in other data structures in just about any language without a= ny > additional transformation, including HTML, XML, and JSON. This makes the > JWT very =E2=80=9Cwebby=E2=80=9D, and this is a feature set that this new= token doesn=E2=80=99t > share. Ergo, it has no business being called a =E2=80=9Cweb=E2=80=9D toke= n regardless of > its heritage. > > Both CBOR Token and COSE Token are fine with me. > > =E2=80=94 Justin > > On May 10, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Mike Jones > wrote: > > I also feel strongly that the name should remain CBOR Web Token. CWT is = a > beneficiary of the intellectual and deployment heritage from the Simple W= eb > Token (SWT) and JSON Web Token (JWT). CWT is intentionally parallel to > JWT. The name should stay parallel as well. > > The =E2=80=9CWeb=E2=80=9D part of the =E2=80=9CCBOR Web Token=E2=80=9D na= me can be taken as a reference to > the Web of Things (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_Things). As > Erik correctly points out JSON is not the only data representation that > makes things in the Web and the Web of Things. > > -- Mike > > *From:* Ace [mailto:ace-bounces@ietf.org ] *On > Behalf Of *Erik Wahlstr=C3=B6m > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 1:44 AM > *To:* Justin Richer > *Cc:* Kathleen Moriarty ; Kepeng Li < > kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.com>; ace@ietf.org; Carsten Bormann = ; > Hannes Tschofenig ; < > oauth@ietf.org>; cose > *Subject:* Re: [Ace] [COSE] Call for adoption for > draft-wahlstroem-ace-cbor-web-token-00 > > Or keep the CBOR Web Token (CWT) for two major reasons: > - To show the very close relationship to JWT. It relies heavily on JWT an= d > it's iana registry. It is essentially a JWT but in CBOR/COSE instead of > JSON/JOSE. > - I would not say that JWT is the only format that works for the web, and > it's even used in other, non-traditional, web protocols. That means I don= 't > have a problem with the W in CWT at all. Why would JSON be the only web > protocol? > > Then we also have one smaller (a lot smaller) reason, it's the fact that > it can be called "cot" just like JWT is called a "jot" and I figured that > our "cozy chairs" would very much like that fact because then it's > essentially a "cozy cot" :) > > / Erik > > > On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 2:49 AM, Justin Richer wrote: > > We can also call it the =E2=80=9CCOSE Token=E2=80=9D. As a chair of the C= OSE working > group, I=E2=80=99m fine with that amount of co-branding. > > =E2=80=94 Justin > > > On May 9, 2016, at 9:31 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote: > > > >> draft-ietf-ace-cbor-token-00.txt; > > > > For the record, I do not think that ACE has a claim on the term "CBOR > > Token". While the term token is not used in RFC 7049, there are many > > tokens that could be expressed in CBOR or be used in applying CBOR to a > > problem. > > > > ACE CBOR Token is fine, though. > > (Or, better, CBOR ACE Token, CAT.) > > > > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten > > > > _______________________________________________ > > COSE mailing list > > COSE@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose > > _______________________________________________ > Ace mailing list > Ace@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ace > > > --e89a8f503798a2668c05328f88c1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That's a very value scenario actually. Even so that it= should actually be handled in the draft.
Scenario: In the continuum of= large and small devices an unconstrained client and AS goes through the ho= ops of issuing a token using standard (HTTP/JSON). The Resource Server howe= ver is constrained and would very much like a CWT when it communicates with= the Client. That means that in the AS to Client response from the token en= dpoint the binary token should actually be wrapped by base64url.=C2=A0
I can definitely see that being added to the draft.
/ Erik<= /div>

On Tue= , May 10, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Justin Richer <jricher@mit.edu> wro= te:
Y= ou=E2=80=99re missing my original complaint: Until this token can be direct= ly encoded into web technologies, like HTTP headers and HTML pages, then it= has no business being called a =E2=80=9CWeb=E2=80=9D anything. As it is, i= t=E2=80=99s a binary encoding that would need an additional wrapper, like b= ase64url perhaps, to be placed into web spaces. It can be used in CoAP and = native CBOR structures as-is, which is what it=E2=80=99s designed to do.=C2= =A0

The =E2=80=9Cweb=E2=80=9D part of JWT is very import= ant. A JWT can be used, as-is, in any part of an HTTP message: headers, que= ry, form, etc. It can also be encoded as a string in other data structures = in just about any language without any additional transformation, including= HTML, XML, and JSON. This makes the JWT very =E2=80=9Cwebby=E2=80=9D, and = this is a feature set that this new token doesn=E2=80=99t share. Ergo, it h= as no business being called a =E2=80=9Cweb=E2=80=9D token regardless of its= heritage.=C2=A0

Both CBOR Token and COSE Token ar= e fine with me.=C2=A0

=C2=A0=E2=80=94 Justin

On May 10, 2016, at 3:= 50 AM, Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com> wrote:

I = also feel strongly that the name should remain CBOR Web Token.=C2=A0 CWT is= a beneficiary of the intellectual and deployment heritage from the Simple = Web Token (SWT) and JSON Web Token (JWT).=C2=A0 CWT is intentionally parall= el to JWT.=C2=A0 The name should stay parallel as well.
=C2=A0
The =E2=80=9CWeb=E2=80=9D part of the =E2=80=9CCBOR = Web Token=E2=80=9D name can be taken as a reference to the Web of Things (s= ee=C2=A0https:= //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_Things).=C2=A0 As Erik correctly points = out JSON is not the only data representation that makes things in the Web a= nd the Web of Things.
=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 -- Mike
From:=C2=A0= Ace [mailt= o:ace-bounces@ietf.org]=C2=A0On Behalf Of=C2=A0Erik Wahlstr=C3=B6m
Sent:=C2=A0Tuesday, May= 10, 2016 1:44 AM
To:=C2=A0Justin Richer <jricher@mit.edu>
Cc:=C2=A0Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.co= m>; Kepeng Li <kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.com>; ace@ietf.org; Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>; Hannes Tschofen= ig <hanne= s.tschofenig@gmx.net>; <oauth@ietf.org> <oauth@ietf.org>; cose <cose@ietf.org>
Subject:=C2= =A0Re: [Ace] [COSE] Call for adoption for draft-wahlstroem-ace-cbor-= web-token-00
=C2=A0=
Or keep the CBOR Web Token (CWT) f= or two major reasons:
- To s= how the very close relationship to JWT. It relies heavily on JWT and it'= ;s iana registry. It is essentially a JWT but in CBOR/COSE instead of JSON/= JOSE.
- I would not sa= y that JWT is the only format that works for the web, and it's even use= d in other, non-traditional, web protocols. That means I don't have a p= roblem with the W in CWT at all. Why would JSON be the only web protocol?
=C2=A0
Then we also have one smaller (a lot s= maller) reason, it's the fact that it can be called "cot" jus= t like JWT is called a "jot" and I figured that our "cozy ch= airs" would very much like that fact because then it's essentially= a "cozy cot" :)
=C2=A0
/ Erik<= /u>
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 2:49 AM, Justin Richer <jricher@mit.edu> wrote:
We can also call it the =E2=80= =9CCOSE Token=E2=80=9D. As a chair of the COSE working group, I=E2=80=99m f= ine with that amount of co-branding.

=C2=A0=E2=80=94 Justin

&= gt; On May 9, 2016, at 9:31 AM, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
>
>> draft-ietf-ace-cbor-token-= 00.txt;
>
> For the record, I do not think that ACE has a claim= on the term "CBOR
> Token".=C2=A0 While the term token is = not used in RFC 7049, there are many
> tokens that could be expressed= in CBOR or be used in applying CBOR to a
> problem.
>
> = ACE CBOR Token is fine, though.
> (Or, better, CBOR ACE Token, CAT.)<= br>>
> Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten
>
> __________________= _____________________________
> COSE mailing list
>=C2=A0= COSE@ietf.org
>=C2=A0https://www.ietf.org/mailma= n/listinfo/cose
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I have been through the draft a couple of times to look for problems and I believe that it is now ready for a working group last call. Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: COSE [mailto:cose-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet- > drafts@ietf.org > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 5:20 PM > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: cose@ietf.org > Subject: [COSE] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cose-msg-12.txt > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the CBOR Object Signing and Encryption of the IETF. > > Title : CBOR Encoded Message Syntax > Author : Jim Schaad > Filename : draft-ietf-cose-msg-12.txt > Pages : 112 > Date : 2016-05-12 > > Abstract: > Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR) is data format designed > for small code size and small message size. There is a need for the > ability to have the basic security services defined for this data > format. This document specifies processing for signatures, message > authentication codes, and encryption using CBOR. This document also > specifies a representation for cryptographic keys using CBOR. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-msg/ > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cose-msg-12 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-cose-msg-12 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > COSE mailing list > COSE@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose From nobody Fri May 13 15:46:31 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2A112D171 for ; Fri, 13 May 2016 15:46:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.196 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.196 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.996, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rGn3sYNV7MTW for ; Fri, 13 May 2016 15:46:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-8.mit.edu (dmz-mailsec-scanner-8.mit.edu [18.7.68.37]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C52CD12D6BA for ; Fri, 13 May 2016 15:46:24 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 12074425-c7fff70000005f72-04-5736593fdcc3 Received: from mailhub-auth-3.mit.edu ( [18.9.21.43]) (using TLS with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id D5.C6.24434.F3956375; Fri, 13 May 2016 18:46:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) by mailhub-auth-3.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id u4DMkMT8029786; Fri, 13 May 2016 18:46:23 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.80] (104-13-170-63.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net [104.13.170.63]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as jricher@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.12.4) with ESMTP id u4DMkKAl032260 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 13 May 2016 18:46:22 -0400 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_10C598B4-7ED7-4065-B196-28A41B28D73A" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Justin Richer In-Reply-To: <03f201d1acb0$38068cf0$a813a6d0$@augustcellars.com> Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 17:46:19 -0500 Message-Id: <659C8D5C-72B9-42E7-B6EA-B886FADC0D98@mit.edu> References: <20160513001947.31649.3013.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <03f201d1acb0$38068cf0$a813a6d0$@augustcellars.com> To: Jim Schaad X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFmpileLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42IR4hTV1rWPNAs3uLlb1WLa1qmsFqunf2dz YPLYOGc6m8eSJT+ZApiiuGxSUnMyy1KL9O0SuDJOXf3BVrDRqWLj3k9MDYx7LLsYOTgkBEwk WpoFuxi5OIQE2pgk1l1tYINwNjJK3H1zhBXCucUkcfHoAkaQDmaBBIkb6+K7GDk5eAX0JDat f8sEYgsLWEn827eSGcRmE1CVmL6mBSzOKeAgsWrBRzCbBSjeseINK4jNLCAh0fziOTvEHCuJ SxdWgcWFBEokmvZcBasXEVCX2Lr6JpgtISAr8eTkIpYJjPyzEK6YheSKWWBTtSWWLXzNDGFr SuzvXs6CKa4h0fltIusCRrZVjLIpuVW6uYmZOcWpybrFyYl5ealFuhZ6uZkleqkppZsYQUHN 7qK6g3HOX69DjAIcjEo8vAlKpuFCrIllxZW5hxglOZiURHnTTczChfiS8lMqMxKLM+KLSnNS iw8xSnAwK4nwtkUA5XhTEiurUovyYVLSHCxK4ryMDAwMQgLpiSWp2ampBalFMFkZDg4lCd4a kEbBotT01Iq0zJwShDQTByfIcB6g4WZgw4sLEnOLM9Mh8qcYFaXEed+GAyUEQBIZpXlwvaCk k8G7yv4VozjQK8K8W0DaeYAJC677FdBgJqDB1deNQAaXJCKkpBoY+4SaeVhWnFQ4ImqbaGeu ytIt/O+88TvO709ZWAqTmG/zcAmkbplkN7+LtzPP97jC1yPhkc620tUOP6aGJPxt8dwneZ5b ZrLZnDuOt76oP1Y/c6rwmNP7U8JBXOden1iwNm/35c+td+PPdPPfWPij7X3YlaVbNbwWKx30 nVCyfZqge/E2oYuMSizFGYmGWsxFxYkAPMqf5xUDAAA= Archived-At: Cc: cose Subject: Re: [COSE] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cose-msg-12.txt X-BeenThere: cose@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 22:46:28 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_10C598B4-7ED7-4065-B196-28A41B28D73A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Thanks, Jim. Everyone, please look over the current draft as well as the issues list = (most of which have been marked =E2=80=9CComplete=E2=80=9D, or otherwise = refer to separate documents).=20 https://github.com/cose-wg/cose-issues/issues = We=E2=80=99ll give people two weeks starting today to look things over = and bring up any showstoppers, then we=E2=80=99ll start the WGLC in = earnest. =E2=80=94 Justin, your COSE chair > On May 12, 2016, at 7:41 PM, Jim Schaad = wrote: >=20 > I believe that this draft represents all of the decisions that were = taken at > BA. I have been through the draft a couple of times to look for = problems > and I believe that it is now ready for a working group last call. >=20 > Jim >=20 >=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: COSE [mailto:cose-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet- >> drafts@ietf.org >> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 5:20 PM >> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org >> Cc: cose@ietf.org >> Subject: [COSE] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cose-msg-12.txt >>=20 >>=20 >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. >> This draft is a work item of the CBOR Object Signing and Encryption = of the > IETF. >>=20 >> Title : CBOR Encoded Message Syntax >> Author : Jim Schaad >> Filename : draft-ietf-cose-msg-12.txt >> Pages : 112 >> Date : 2016-05-12 >>=20 >> Abstract: >> Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR) is data format designed >> for small code size and small message size. There is a need for = the >> ability to have the basic security services defined for this data >> format. This document specifies processing for signatures, message >> authentication codes, and encryption using CBOR. This document = also >> specifies a representation for cryptographic keys using CBOR. >>=20 >>=20 >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-msg/ >>=20 >> There's also a htmlized version available at: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cose-msg-12 >>=20 >> A diff from the previous version is available at: >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-cose-msg-12 >>=20 >>=20 >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >>=20 >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> COSE mailing list >> COSE@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose >=20 --Apple-Mail=_10C598B4-7ED7-4065-B196-28A41B28D73A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Thanks, Jim.

Everyone, please look over the current draft as well as the = issues list (most of which have been marked =E2=80=9CComplete=E2=80=9D, = or otherwise refer to separate documents). 

https://github.com/cose-wg/cose-issues/issues

We=E2=80=99ll give = people two weeks starting today to look things over and bring up any = showstoppers, then we=E2=80=99ll start the WGLC in earnest.

 =E2=80=94 Justin, = your COSE chair

On May 12, 2016, at 7:41 PM, = Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com> wrote:

I = believe that this draft represents all of the decisions that were taken = at
BA.  I have been through the draft a couple of = times to look for problems
and I believe that it is now = ready for a working group last call.

Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: COSE [mailto:cose-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-
drafts@ietf.org
Sent: Thursday, May 12, = 2016 5:20 PM
To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
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Subject: [COSE] I-D Action: = draft-ietf-cose-msg-12.txt


A = New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
directories.
This draft is a work item of the CBOR Object = Signing and Encryption of the
IETF.

=        Title =           : CBOR = Encoded Message Syntax
=        Author =          : Jim Schaad
= Filename        : = draft-ietf-cose-msg-12.txt
Pages =           : 112
= Date =            : = 2016-05-12

Abstract:
=   Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR) is data format = designed
  for small code size and small = message size.  There is a need for the
=   ability to have the basic security services defined for this = data
  format.  This document specifies = processing for signatures, message
=   authentication codes, and encryption using CBOR.  This = document also
  specifies a representation for = cryptographic keys using CBOR.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-msg/

There's also a htmlized version available = at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cose-msg-12

A diff from the previous version is available = at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-cose-msg-12


Please note that it may take a = couple of minutes from the time of
submission
until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

Internet-Drafts are also available by = anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/

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autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ta7a1-Z9GBl3; Sat, 21 May 2016 10:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1.pacifier.net (smtp1.pacifier.net [64.255.237.171]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CDFAF12D520; Sat, 21 May 2016 10:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hebrews (augustcellars.com [50.45.239.150]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: schaad@nwlink.com) by smtp1.pacifier.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ED4D12CA30; Sat, 21 May 2016 10:35:04 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Schaad" To: =?utf-8?Q?'G=C3=B6ran_Selander'?= References: <20160513001947.31649.3013.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <03f201d1acb0$38068cf0$a813a6d0$@augustcellars.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 10:35:04 -0700 Message-ID: <000a01d1b387$1c83c690$558b53b0$@augustcellars.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQFv/JeYi+kl86wFCwHOAHo/0sSXmQKWYCE2AYrVDYKgZgisAA== Content-Language: en-us Archived-At: Cc: cose-chairs@ietf.org, cose@ietf.org Subject: Re: [COSE] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-cose-msg-12.txt X-BeenThere: cose@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 17:35:08 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: COSE [mailto:cose-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of G=C3=B6ran = Selander > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 6:52 AM > To: Jim Schaad > Cc: cose-chairs@ietf.org; cose@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [COSE] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-cose-msg-12.txt >=20 > Hi Jim >=20 > A couple of questions related to applying COSE rather than issues with = the draft > itself. >=20 > 1. As you know we are looking at building security protocols using = COSE. > For EDHOC we need to support X.509 certificate based authentication of = the DH > exchange. With PSK and RPK, which is currently described, EDHOC is an > exchange of COSE messages. What would be a natural way to include a = public > key certificate in a COSE_Sign1 object, the public key of the = certificate intended > to be used by the recipient to verify the signature of the COSE = object? >=20 We do not have a current method of carrying certificates in a COSE = message at this time. When we were discussing things, it was presumed = and confirmed that while certificates may be used, they were going to be = pre-provisioned in some manner. The additional overhead associated with = carrying certificates was not considered to be part of the target = environment. That said, for pre-provisioned certificates one would place the SPKI = field into the KID field of a message.=20 If one really wants to carry certificates, then one would need to define = a new header field that allowed for one or more certificates to be = carried as part of the message. One might also wish to provide for OCSP = responses to be carried as well for long term messages and good time = capabilities in order to ease revocation checking. I do recognize that = many of the situations you are looking at would probably not do = revocation checking but it might be reasonable to allow for the ability = in the future. >=20 > 2. Another thing we discussed previously was the detailed = specification for > deriving the shared secret with ECDH, analogously to section 7.3.3 of > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tls-tls13-12 >=20 > I note in section 12.4.1 >=20 > " The mathematics for Elliptic Curve Diffie-Hellman can be found in > [RFC6090]. In this document the algorithm is extended to be used > with the two curves defined in [RFC7748]. >=20 > ECDH is parameterized by the following: >=20 > o Curve Type/Curve: The curve selected controls not only the size = of > the shared secret, but the mathematics for computing the shared > secret. =E2=80=9C >=20 >=20 > There are at least two kinds of shared secret, one is a point on a = curve, denoted > g^(j*k) in RFC6090, or alternatively a coordinate. Another is the byte = string > derived from g^(j*k) or its coordinate, used for subsequent key = derivation. The > former is defined with the curve, but not necessarily the latter. >=20 > For example in the case of RFC7748, section 6.1, "Alice and Bob can = then use a > key-derivation > function that includes K, K_A, and K_B to derive a symmetric = key.=E2=80=9D >=20 >=20 > Section 11 in draft-ietf-cose-msg nicely describes the key derivation = given the > shared secret, but I can=E2=80=99t find the reference to the exact = procedure for obtaining > the shared secret starting from this draft. >=20 > Not insisting on it be included in this draft. For now I just want a = confirmation > that I haven=E2=80=99t missed something. I remember that you told me about this and I did intend to deal with the = first case, but I forgot to write it down and missed it. =20 I thought that I had dealt with the second case, but I cannot seem to = find the text at the moment so it might have been lost. I will look for = it and see if I am just missing it or if the text got lost and needs to = be re-added. Jim >=20 >=20 > G=C3=B6ran >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 2016-05-13 02:41, "COSE on behalf of Jim Schaad" = on behalf of ietf@augustcellars.com> wrote: >=20 > >I believe that this draft represents all of the decisions that were > >taken at BA. I have been through the draft a couple of times to look > >for problems and I believe that it is now ready for a working group > >last call. > > > >Jim > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: COSE [mailto:cose-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet- > >> drafts@ietf.org > >> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 5:20 PM > >> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > >> Cc: cose@ietf.org > >> Subject: [COSE] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cose-msg-12.txt > >> > >> > >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > >directories. > >> This draft is a work item of the CBOR Object Signing and Encryption > >>of the > >IETF. > >> > >> Title : CBOR Encoded Message Syntax > >> Author : Jim Schaad > >> Filename : draft-ietf-cose-msg-12.txt > >> Pages : 112 > >> Date : 2016-05-12 > >> > >> Abstract: > >> Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR) is data format = designed > >> for small code size and small message size. There is a need for = the > >> ability to have the basic security services defined for this = data > >> format. This document specifies processing for signatures, = message > >> authentication codes, and encryption using CBOR. This document = also > >> specifies a representation for cryptographic keys using CBOR. > >> > >> > >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-msg/ > >> > >> There's also a htmlized version available at: > >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cose-msg-12 > >> > >> A diff from the previous version is available at: > >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-cose-msg-12 > >> > >> > >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > >submission > >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at = tools.ietf.org. > >> > >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> COSE mailing list > >> COSE@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose > > > >_______________________________________________ > >COSE mailing list > >COSE@ietf.org > >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose >=20 > _______________________________________________ > COSE mailing list > COSE@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose From nobody Mon May 23 21:28:25 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66BE012D5DB; Mon, 23 May 2016 21:28:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wF7m9LLqRZUR; Mon, 23 May 2016 21:28:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1.pacifier.net (smtp1.pacifier.net [64.255.237.171]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8146D12D12D; Mon, 23 May 2016 21:28:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hebrews (c-24-21-96-37.hsd1.or.comcast.net [24.21.96.37]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: schaad@nwlink.com) by smtp1.pacifier.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EC63B2CA6A; Mon, 23 May 2016 21:28:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Schaad" To: =?utf-8?Q?'G=C3=B6ran_Selander'?= References: <20160513001947.31649.3013.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <03f201d1acb0$38068cf0$a813a6d0$@augustcellars.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 21:28:21 -0700 Message-ID: <01f201d1b574$b491e8b0$1db5ba10$@augustcellars.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQFv/JeYi+kl86wFCwHOAHo/0sSXmQKWYCE2AYrVDYKgaeZKoA== Content-Language: en-us Archived-At: Cc: cose-chairs@ietf.org, cose@ietf.org Subject: Re: [COSE] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-cose-msg-12.txt X-BeenThere: cose@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 04:28:24 -0000 Please look at this and see if you think it covers the required changes. https://github.com/cose-wg/cose-spec/pull/150 jim > -----Original Message----- > From: COSE [mailto:cose-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of G=C3=B6ran = Selander > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 6:52 AM > To: Jim Schaad > Cc: cose-chairs@ietf.org; cose@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [COSE] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-cose-msg-12.txt >=20 > Hi Jim >=20 > A couple of questions related to applying COSE rather than issues with = the draft > itself. >=20 > 1. As you know we are looking at building security protocols using = COSE. > For EDHOC we need to support X.509 certificate based authentication of = the DH > exchange. With PSK and RPK, which is currently described, EDHOC is an > exchange of COSE messages. What would be a natural way to include a = public > key certificate in a COSE_Sign1 object, the public key of the = certificate intended > to be used by the recipient to verify the signature of the COSE = object? >=20 >=20 > 2. Another thing we discussed previously was the detailed = specification for > deriving the shared secret with ECDH, analogously to section 7.3.3 of > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tls-tls13-12 >=20 > I note in section 12.4.1 >=20 > " The mathematics for Elliptic Curve Diffie-Hellman can be found in > [RFC6090]. In this document the algorithm is extended to be used > with the two curves defined in [RFC7748]. >=20 > ECDH is parameterized by the following: >=20 > o Curve Type/Curve: The curve selected controls not only the size = of > the shared secret, but the mathematics for computing the shared > secret. =E2=80=9C >=20 >=20 > There are at least two kinds of shared secret, one is a point on a = curve, denoted > g^(j*k) in RFC6090, or alternatively a coordinate. Another is the byte = string > derived from g^(j*k) or its coordinate, used for subsequent key = derivation. The > former is defined with the curve, but not necessarily the latter. >=20 > For example in the case of RFC7748, section 6.1, "Alice and Bob can = then use a > key-derivation > function that includes K, K_A, and K_B to derive a symmetric = key.=E2=80=9D >=20 >=20 > Section 11 in draft-ietf-cose-msg nicely describes the key derivation = given the > shared secret, but I can=E2=80=99t find the reference to the exact = procedure for obtaining > the shared secret starting from this draft. >=20 > Not insisting on it be included in this draft. For now I just want a = confirmation > that I haven=E2=80=99t missed something. >=20 >=20 > G=C3=B6ran >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 2016-05-13 02:41, "COSE on behalf of Jim Schaad" = on behalf of ietf@augustcellars.com> wrote: >=20 > >I believe that this draft represents all of the decisions that were > >taken at BA. I have been through the draft a couple of times to look > >for problems and I believe that it is now ready for a working group > >last call. > > > >Jim > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: COSE [mailto:cose-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet- > >> drafts@ietf.org > >> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 5:20 PM > >> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > >> Cc: cose@ietf.org > >> Subject: [COSE] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cose-msg-12.txt > >> > >> > >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > >directories. > >> This draft is a work item of the CBOR Object Signing and Encryption > >>of the > >IETF. > >> > >> Title : CBOR Encoded Message Syntax > >> Author : Jim Schaad > >> Filename : draft-ietf-cose-msg-12.txt > >> Pages : 112 > >> Date : 2016-05-12 > >> > >> Abstract: > >> Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR) is data format = designed > >> for small code size and small message size. There is a need for = the > >> ability to have the basic security services defined for this = data > >> format. This document specifies processing for signatures, = message > >> authentication codes, and encryption using CBOR. This document = also > >> specifies a representation for cryptographic keys using CBOR. > >> > >> > >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-msg/ > >> > >> There's also a htmlized version available at: > >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cose-msg-12 > >> > >> A diff from the previous version is available at: > >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-cose-msg-12 > >> > >> > >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > >submission > >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at = tools.ietf.org. > >> > >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> COSE mailing list > >> COSE@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose > > > >_______________________________________________ > >COSE mailing list > >COSE@ietf.org > >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose >=20 > _______________________________________________ > COSE mailing list > COSE@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose From nobody Thu May 26 10:50:32 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B03B212D7CD for ; Thu, 26 May 2016 10:50:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iWScIz8UsZVN for ; Thu, 26 May 2016 10:50:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp3.pacifier.net (smtp3.pacifier.net [64.255.237.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7BDB512D562 for ; Thu, 26 May 2016 10:50:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hebrews (c-24-21-96-37.hsd1.or.comcast.net [24.21.96.37]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: schaad@nwlink.com) by smtp3.pacifier.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2839538F12 for ; Thu, 26 May 2016 10:50:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Schaad" To: References: <57446515.8070900@gmail.com> <5746C234.6010109@gmail.com> <03a201d1b769$acf63240$06e296c0$@augustcellars.com> <574722C8.2000901@tzi.org> In-Reply-To: <574722C8.2000901@tzi.org> Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 10:50:28 -0700 Message-ID: <03d501d1b777$17728f30$4657ad90$@augustcellars.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQJ+L04cgDL25s7N3/o7DumPLnoYjgJfZsgtAgXu9nICRlpPmJ49MerQ Content-Language: en-us Archived-At: Subject: [COSE] FW: [jose] JOSE implementation Interoperability events X-BeenThere: cose@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 17:50:30 -0000 I am trying to gauge interest in this. Are there people who would like = to participate? Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: Carsten Bormann [mailto:cabo@tzi.org] > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 9:23 AM > To: Jim Schaad > Cc: 'Sergey Beryozkin' ; jose@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [jose] JOSE implementation Interoperability events >=20 > Jim Schaad wrote: > > Are people interested in doing anything along these lines at the = next > > IETF meeting as part of the hackathon? >=20 > Yes, please. Maybe we can add COSE to the mix. > (Unfortunately, on Saturday most "constrained" people will be at the = RIOT > summit, but there also is Sunday, except for those that are at the 6lo = plugtest. > That weekend is getting a bit crowded.) >=20 > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Fri May 27 00:29:13 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F013B12DBD1 for ; Fri, 27 May 2016 00:29:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.601 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=sics-se.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aXUTsJQ7eAjj for ; Fri, 27 May 2016 00:29:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lf0-x22b.google.com (mail-lf0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DFB9812D0E1 for ; Fri, 27 May 2016 00:25:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lf0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id b73so19621766lfb.3 for ; Fri, 27 May 2016 00:25:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sics-se.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to; bh=U5WKxAkw0DmVHM2NO2qI+tfonfY2uR0W0IA0bwm7C4A=; b=QCUz0+aQm82D1NYkKDpEwyRqFuIIHK82lSAdGpata7bTdzrlrNyuC4nY6UhIsNdjwa hafUBS1emSxxyImybvVgwLH+F5nDjCYY+iitEXDa1DdkLOXY1MLqCcNRFIfMG6J2mrYA 5JEJBCcoZXKq0zlM6WIXrGZSEN51GGAfGMyECONtmiEt6sYRoy78bXeVvtMuvdrhQaqW QdCvT8dqXEbSlIw+n/5u/f/rmtzLKdEry3Jc1YlKBAd9KZGsEZCE0mGLyQETCUgiZsbg +h6WS11er22uw9XqgwvuTJaTPCw/b474rdwHBkAzpMg/gcynjRw+QqjZlUdnhxWVbLf2 Dx7g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=U5WKxAkw0DmVHM2NO2qI+tfonfY2uR0W0IA0bwm7C4A=; b=bDSwzEaRG138WXXl943KuSsY9MHDRNpT+ULsyfR0hsKN2ErbdJNskQ4inRNIYg3/x/ 1wNmGgOI5y74kIDFsa7Lx7rn1a33Lhv2hONdSp8FKJ8e/4RVMuH3BWtIAztNvub7vxF/ plfRvyDvRLiNVEReN+fnCBawjcvlXzTJ1rQuw8zyAvpUAj9YwLayNW2fhWSEuMJ4l6OV DQpQEig/AsKH1ifbcjdMDdCdywDdKvaNmjMlU0aa1CcJX6eP2kkeydPUdBpFiKzFDhHM 0KFonKHqHvr7qaC8RE9xlTc+85/821aXvmilDTYPqRZ4c4ynHA9hCpb1YcCFv/OqEAiU dH/g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tIYJC3kKat50/TZnRNfd4L3XiAs/J0cpLM806xK8fmPUqmRFjaUkHKlevzpq3xnhMOZ X-Received: by 10.46.33.13 with SMTP id h13mr1215990ljh.39.1464333905047; Fri, 27 May 2016 00:25:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.166] ([85.235.10.186]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e71sm751186lfg.8.2016.05.27.00.25.03 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 27 May 2016 00:25:04 -0700 (PDT) To: cose@ietf.org References: <57446515.8070900@gmail.com> <5746C234.6010109@gmail.com> <03a201d1b769$acf63240$06e296c0$@augustcellars.com> <574722C8.2000901@tzi.org> <03d501d1b777$17728f30$4657ad90$@augustcellars.com> From: Ludwig Seitz Message-ID: <5747F647.3080500@sics.se> Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 09:24:55 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <03d501d1b777$17728f30$4657ad90$@augustcellars.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms020603080807040303080309" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [COSE] FW: [jose] JOSE implementation Interoperability events X-BeenThere: cose@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 07:29:12 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms020603080807040303080309 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016-05-26 19:50, Jim Schaad wrote: > I am trying to gauge interest in this. 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As announced two weeks ago, since we haven't seen any showstoppers or complaints on recently completed issues, the messages document is now in WGLC. We expect this LC to run for two weeks.

Everyone, please review the current document and reply to the list with your reviews. Even if it's "I read it and everything looks good to me", that's helpful information for us to have in order to move things forward.

聽-- Justin & Kepeng, your COSE chairs


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Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQFv/JeYi+kl86wFCwHOAHo/0sSXmQKWYCE2AYrVDYIBR88X+wJK6xyUoFMVLeA= Content-Language: en-us Archived-At: Cc: cose-chairs@ietf.org, cose@ietf.org Subject: Re: [COSE] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-cose-msg-12.txt X-BeenThere: cose@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 20:34:09 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: COSE [mailto:cose-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of G=C3=B6ran = Selander > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 6:55 AM > To: Jim Schaad > Cc: cose-chairs@ietf.org; cose@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [COSE] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-cose-msg-12.txt >=20 > Thanks, I think it covers the points discussed. Just some minor points = for > consideration: >=20 > "Shared Secret to Byte String:=E2=80=9D >=20 > I understand this, but may be confusing since the term =E2=80=9Cshared = secret=E2=80=9D is used > elsewhere in the document for what here is called "Byte = String=E2=80=9D. I don=E2=80=99t have a > good proposal for terminology though. Yeah, I am still trying to come up with something better. >=20 >=20 > "run through the I2OSP function defined in = using the > same computation for n as is defined in .=E2=80=9D >=20 > It is not obvious what =E2=80=9Ccomputation for n=E2=80=9D that is = being referred. Does this mean that you did not figure out that it was a reference to a = section in the document (section 8.1) or that you did not understand how = n was computed in that section? Jim >=20 >=20 >=20 > G=C3=B6ran >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 2016-05-24 06:28, "Jim Schaad" wrote: >=20 > >Please look at this and see if you think it covers the required = changes. > > > >https://github.com/cose-wg/cose-spec/pull/150 > > > >jim > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: COSE [mailto:cose-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of G=C3=B6ran = Selander > >> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 6:52 AM > >> To: Jim Schaad > >> Cc: cose-chairs@ietf.org; cose@ietf.org > >> Subject: Re: [COSE] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-cose-msg-12.txt > >> > >> Hi Jim > >> > >> A couple of questions related to applying COSE rather than issues > >>with the draft itself. > >> > >> 1. As you know we are looking at building security protocols using = COSE. > >> For EDHOC we need to support X.509 certificate based authentication > >>of the DH exchange. With PSK and RPK, which is currently described, > >>EDHOC is an exchange of COSE messages. What would be a natural way = to > >>include a public key certificate in a COSE_Sign1 object, the public > >>key of the certificate intended to be used by the recipient to = verify > >>the signature of the COSE object? > >> > >> > >> 2. Another thing we discussed previously was the detailed > >>specification for deriving the shared secret with ECDH, analogously > >>to section 7.3.3 of > >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tls-tls13-12 > >> > >> I note in section 12.4.1 > >> > >> " The mathematics for Elliptic Curve Diffie-Hellman can be found in > >> [RFC6090]. In this document the algorithm is extended to be = used > >> with the two curves defined in [RFC7748]. > >> > >> ECDH is parameterized by the following: > >> > >> o Curve Type/Curve: The curve selected controls not only the = size of > >> the shared secret, but the mathematics for computing the = shared > >> secret. =E2=80=9C > >> > >> > >> There are at least two kinds of shared secret, one is a point on a > >>curve, denoted > >> g^(j*k) in RFC6090, or alternatively a coordinate. Another is the > >>byte string derived from g^(j*k) or its coordinate, used for > >>subsequent key derivation. The former is defined with the curve, = but > >>not necessarily the latter. > >> > >> For example in the case of RFC7748, section 6.1, "Alice and Bob can > >>then use a key-derivation > >> function that includes K, K_A, and K_B to derive a symmetric = key.=E2=80=9D > >> > >> > >> Section 11 in draft-ietf-cose-msg nicely describes the key = derivation > >>given the shared secret, but I can=E2=80=99t find the reference to = the exact > >>procedure for obtaining the shared secret starting from this draft. > >> > >> Not insisting on it be included in this draft. For now I just want = a > >>confirmation that I haven=E2=80=99t missed something. > >> > >> > >> G=C3=B6ran > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 2016-05-13 02:41, "COSE on behalf of Jim Schaad" > >> >> on behalf of ietf@augustcellars.com> wrote: > >> > >> >I believe that this draft represents all of the decisions that = were > >> >taken at BA. I have been through the draft a couple of times to > >> >look for problems and I believe that it is now ready for a working > >> >group last call. > >> > > >> >Jim > >> > > >> > > >> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >> From: COSE [mailto:cose-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet- > >> >> drafts@ietf.org > >> >> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 5:20 PM > >> >> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > >> >> Cc: cose@ietf.org > >> >> Subject: [COSE] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cose-msg-12.txt > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line = Internet-Drafts > >> >directories. > >> >> This draft is a work item of the CBOR Object Signing and > >> >>Encryption of the > >> >IETF. > >> >> > >> >> Title : CBOR Encoded Message Syntax > >> >> Author : Jim Schaad > >> >> Filename : draft-ietf-cose-msg-12.txt > >> >> Pages : 112 > >> >> Date : 2016-05-12 > >> >> > >> >> Abstract: > >> >> Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR) is data format > >>designed > >> >> for small code size and small message size. There is a need > >> >> for > >>the > >> >> ability to have the basic security services defined for this = data > >> >> format. This document specifies processing for signatures, > >>message > >> >> authentication codes, and encryption using CBOR. This = document > >>also > >> >> specifies a representation for cryptographic keys using CBOR. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > >> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-msg/ > >> >> > >> >> There's also a htmlized version available at: > >> >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cose-msg-12 > >> >> > >> >> A diff from the previous version is available at: > >> >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-cose-msg-12 > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time = of > >> >submission > >> >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at = tools.ietf.org. > >> >> > >> >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > >> >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> COSE mailing list > >> >> COSE@ietf.org > >> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose > >> > > >> >_______________________________________________ > >> >COSE mailing list > >> >COSE@ietf.org > >> >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> COSE mailing list > >> COSE@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose > > >=20 > _______________________________________________ > COSE mailing list > COSE@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose From nobody Sat May 28 17:12:10 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cose@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA9E12D14E for ; 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charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mike, I think it's a little ridiculous to expect a fully two-week window to be open to the exact minute from which it was specified in email, a medium which is prone to delays and delivery oddities at the best of times. The review period was in fact two weeks long and was closed on the calendar day specified. I'm sorry that this confused you. Maybe I'll start saying "fortnight" instead so that people realize the implied loose granularity? Regardless, in case anyone else is still confused: the WGLC will close sometime on June 10. You've got almost two weeks, people, don't put off your reviews until the last second. As for the present: Whatever issues you may have discovered during your review on the last day can still be brought up. WGLC isn't the *end* of comments, it's a period *for* comments. You can comment on closed issues without my reopening anything, and thus I will not be reopening any issues. However, as the document is currently in WGLC, I would prefer if you bring the review to the list as requested in the WGLC email. If you've got something to say about COSE then now is a really, really good time to say it. Thank you, -- Justin, your COSE chair On 5/27/2016 12:45 PM, Mike Jones wrote: > > Justin, > > You wrote on the 13^th that we had two weeks to review these issues > and I scheduled time today to review them but I got up this morning > and discovered that you鈥檇 already closed the issues before the two > weeks was up (which would be at 3:46 Pacific time this afternoon). I > hope therefore that if I want to make comments on any of the closed > issues today as a result of my reviews that you鈥檒l reopen them so I > can do so. > > Thank you, > > -- Mike > > *From:*COSE [mailto:cose-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Justin Richer > *Sent:* Friday, May 13, 2016 3:46 PM > *To:* Jim Schaad > *Cc:* cose > *Subject:* Re: [COSE] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cose-msg-12.txt > > Thanks, Jim. > > Everyone, please look over the current draft as well as the issues > list (most of which have been marked 鈥淐omplete鈥, or otherwise refer to > separate documents). > > https://github.com/cose-wg/cose-issues/issues > > We鈥檒l give people two weeks starting today to look things over and > bring up any showstoppers, then we鈥檒l start the WGLC in earnest. > > 鈥 Justin, your COSE chair > > On May 12, 2016, at 7:41 PM, Jim Schaad > wrote: > > I believe that this draft represents all of the decisions that > were taken at > BA. I have been through the draft a couple of times to look for > problems > and I believe that it is now ready for a working group last call. > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: COSE [mailto:cose-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet- > drafts@ietf.org > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 5:20 PM > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: cose@ietf.org > Subject: [COSE] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cose-msg-12.txt > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > > directories. > > This draft is a work item of the CBOR Object Signing and > Encryption of the > > IETF. > > > Title : CBOR Encoded Message Syntax > Author : Jim Schaad > Filename : draft-ietf-cose-msg-12.txt > Pages : 112 > Date : 2016-05-12 > > Abstract: > Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR) is data format > designed > for small code size and small message size. There is a need > for the > ability to have the basic security services defined for this > data > format. This document specifies processing for signatures, > message > authentication codes, and encryption using CBOR. This > document also > specifies a representation for cryptographic keys using CBOR. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-msg/ > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cose-msg-12 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-cose-msg-12 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > > submission > > until the htmlized version and diff are available at > tools.ietf.org . > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > COSE mailing list > COSE@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose > --------------587C0F17032FE0A98A3E7361 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Mike,

I think it's a little ridiculous to expect a fully two-week window to be open to the exact minute from which it was specified in email, a medium which is prone to delays and delivery oddities at the best of times. The review period was in fact two weeks long and was closed on the calendar day specified. I'm sorry that this confused you. Maybe I'll start saying "fortnight" instead so that people realize the implied loose granularity? Regardless, in case anyone else is still confused: the WGLC will close sometime on June 10. You've got almost two weeks, people, don't put off your reviews until the last second.

As for the present: Whatever issues you may have discovered during your review on the last day can still be brought up. WGLC isn't the *end* of comments, it's a period *for* comments. You can comment on closed issues without my reopening anything, and thus I will not be reopening any issues. However, as the document is currently in WGLC, I would prefer if you bring the review to the list as requested in the WGLC email.

If you've got something to say about COSE then now is a really, really good time to say it.

Thank you,

聽-- Justin, your COSE chair

On 5/27/2016 12:45 PM, Mike Jones wrote:

Justin,

聽

You wrote on the 13th that we had two weeks to review these issues and I scheduled time today to review them but I got up this morning and discovered that you鈥檇 already closed the issues before the two weeks was up (which would be at 3:46 Pacific time this afternoon).聽 I hope therefore that if I want to make comments on any of the closed issues today as a result of my reviews that you鈥檒l reopen them so I can do so.

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From: COSE [mailto:cose-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Justin Richer
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 3:46 PM
To: Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com>
Cc: cose <cose@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [COSE] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cose-msg-12.txt

聽

Thanks, Jim.

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Everyone, please look over the current draft as well as the issues list (most of which have been marked 鈥淐omplete鈥, or otherwise refer to separate documents).聽

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We鈥檒l give people two weeks starting today to look things over and bring up any showstoppers, then we鈥檒l start the WGLC in earnest.

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聽鈥 Justin, your COSE chair

聽

On May 12, 2016, at 7:41 PM, Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com> wrote:

聽

I believe that this draft represents all of the decisions that were taken at
BA. 聽I have been through the draft a couple of times to look for problems
and I believe that it is now ready for a working group last call.

Jim



-----Original Message-----
From: COSE [mailto:cose-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-
drafts@ietf.org
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 5:20 PM
To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
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Subject: [COSE] I-D Action: draft-ietf-cose-msg-12.txt


A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts

directories.

This draft is a work item of the CBOR Object Signing and Encryption of the

IETF.


聽聽聽聽聽聽聽Title 聽聽聽聽聽聽聽聽聽聽: CBOR Encoded Message Syntax
聽聽聽聽聽聽聽Author 聽聽聽聽聽聽聽聽聽: Jim Schaad
聽聽聽聽聽聽聽聽聽聽聽 Filename 聽聽聽聽聽聽聽: draft-ietf-cose-msg-12.txt
聽聽聽聽聽聽聽聽聽聽聽 Pages 聽聽聽聽聽聽聽聽聽聽: 112
聽聽聽聽聽聽聽聽聽聽聽 Date 聽聽聽聽聽聽聽聽聽聽聽: 2016-05-12

Abstract:
聽聽Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR) is data format designed
聽聽for small code size and small message size. 聽There is a need for the
聽聽ability to have the basic security services defined for this data
聽聽format. 聽This document specifies processing for signatures, message
聽聽authentication codes, and encryption using CBOR. 聽This document also
聽聽specifies a representation for cryptographic keys using CBOR.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cose-msg/

There's also a htmlized version available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-cose-msg-12

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-cose-msg-12


Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of

submission

until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

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