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Hi all,

RFC 7800 defines how to communicate Proof of Possession (PoP) keys for
JSON Web Tokens (JWTs) [RFC 7519]. The CBOR Web Token (CWT)
draft-ietf-ace-cbor-web-token spec defines the CBOR/COSE equivalent of
the JSON/JOSE JWT spec.

The ACE working group is planning to also define a CBOR/COSE equivalent
of RFC 7800 and is interested in knowing how you might use CBOR
proof-of-possession keys for CWTs.

Please drop us a message if you are using CBOR PoP keys for CWTs. We
would like to learn more about your usage.

Ciao
Hannes & Kepeng


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Jim

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From: COSE [mailto:cose-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Laurence =
Lundblade
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 12:58 PM
To: cose <cose@ietf.org>
Subject: [COSE] A couple of COSE questions

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Hello I have a few questions=E2=80=A6=20

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Registration of hash algs

There=E2=80=99s no assignments for hash algs (SHA-256.. SHA-512, =
SHA3-256=E2=80=A6) in the IANA registry here =
<https://www.iana.org/assignments/cose/cose.xhtml#algorithms> . I assume =
this is because the COSE protocol doesn=E2=80=99t have a need because =
they are bundled up with the signing alg identifiers.  For non-COSE =
protocols that use CBOR and do have a need to identify a hash, would it =
be reasonable to add them?  The COSE registry seems like it is the place =
to register algorithm IDs for use in CBOR in general.  I assume the =
process would be to write a simple RFC, publish and then add to the =
registry.

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[JLS]  Yes the reason that there are no hash algorithms is that they =
were not needed for any of the core COSE functions.  I am in the process =
of registering two hash functions as part of ietf-schaad-cose-x509.  =
These are a SHA-256 and a truncated SHA-256.  If you want to write up a =
more complete RFC for this that would be fine with me.

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Registration of tagging for COSE messages

Why isn=E2=80=99t there a registry section for the tags for these =
different COSE messages?=20

   COSE_Tagged_Message =3D COSE_Sign_Tagged / COSE_Sign1_Tagged /
       COSE_Encrypt_Tagged / COSE_Encrypt0_Tagged /
       COSE_Mac_Tagged / COSE_Mac0_Tagged

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[JLS] Not too sure what registry you are looking for here.  But I think =
you want this registry =
https://www.iana.org/assignments/cbor-tags/cbor-tags.xhtml#tags

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Tagging of bstr wrapped data

It seems like it would be helpful to use an option tag on the =
bstr-wrapped payload for COSE_Sign and such to tell general purpose =
parsers and translators to remove the bstr wrapping and keep going. Tag =
55799 seems like the best fit so far, but it may not be a perfect fit =
and it would be nice to use a tag less than 24.  =20

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[JLS]  I am not sure that you would find this generically helpful.  The =
problem is that the parser needs to provide both the encoded version and =
the unencoded version if you are going to do an automatic recursion of =
the CBOR decoder.  You need the first in order to do the signature =
validation processing.  This means that there does not seem to be a real =
point to making the recursion occur automatically that I can see.  We =
have not provided all of the cues that would be needed to do a stream =
decode and validation at the same process ala how CMS does it (and even =
then there are cases where you need to go back and restart the process =
again).

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Thanks!

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line comments<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Jim<o:p></o:p></p><p =
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style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> COSE =
[mailto:cose-bounces@ietf.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Laurence =
Lundblade<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 15, 2017 12:58 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
cose &lt;cose@ietf.org&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [COSE] A couple of COSE =
questions<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hello I have =
a few questions=E2=80=A6 <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><u>Registration of hash =
algs</u><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>There=E2=80=99s =
no assignments for hash algs (SHA-256.. SHA-512, SHA3-256=E2=80=A6) in =
the IANA registry&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://www.iana.org/assignments/cose/cose.xhtml#algorithms">here=
</a>. I assume this is because the COSE protocol doesn=E2=80=99t have a =
need because they are bundled up with the signing alg identifiers. =
&nbsp;For non-COSE protocols that use CBOR and do have a need to =
identify a hash, would it be reasonable to add them? &nbsp;The COSE =
registry seems like it is the place to register algorithm IDs for use in =
CBOR in general. &nbsp;I assume the process would be to write a simple =
RFC, publish and then add to the registry.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#0070C0'>[JLS]=C2=A0 Yes the reason that there are no =
hash algorithms is that they were not needed for any of the core COSE =
functions.=C2=A0 I am in the process of registering two hash functions =
as part of ietf-schaad-cose-x509.=C2=A0 These are a SHA-256 and a =
truncated SHA-256.=C2=A0 If you want to write up a more complete RFC for =
this that would be fine with me.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><u>Registration of tagging for COSE =
messages</u><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Why =
isn=E2=80=99t there a registry section for the tags for these different =
COSE messages?&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><pre =
style=3D'break-before: page'>=C2=A0=C2=A0 COSE_Tagged_Message =3D =
COSE_Sign_Tagged / COSE_Sign1_Tagged =
/<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =
COSE_Encrypt_Tagged / COSE_Encrypt0_Tagged =
/<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =
COSE_Mac_Tagged / COSE_Mac0_Tagged<o:p></o:p></pre><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#0070C0'>[JLS] Not too sure what registry you are looking =
for here.=C2=A0 But I think you want this registry =
https://www.iana.org/assignments/cbor-tags/cbor-tags.xhtml#tags<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><u>Tagging of bstr wrapped =
data</u><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>It seems like it =
would be helpful to use an option tag on the bstr-wrapped payload for =
COSE_Sign and such to tell general purpose parsers and translators to =
remove the bstr wrapping and keep going. Tag 55799 seems like the best =
fit so far, but it may not be a perfect fit and it would be nice to use =
a tag less than 24. &nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#0070C0'>[JLS]=C2=A0 I am not sure that you would find =
this generically helpful.=C2=A0 The problem is that the parser needs to =
provide both the encoded version and the unencoded version if you are =
going to do an automatic recursion of the CBOR decoder.=C2=A0 You need =
the first in order to do the signature validation processing.=C2=A0 This =
means that there does not seem to be a real point to making the =
recursion occur automatically that I can see.=C2=A0 We have not provided =
all of the cues that would be needed to do a stream decode and =
validation at the same process ala how CMS does it (and even then there =
are cases where you need to go back and restart the process =
again).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
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No id assignment for the algorithms yet because the draft has not gone =
to IANA.

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Jim

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From: Laurence Lundblade [mailto:llundbla@qti.qualcomm.com]=20
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 2:14 PM
To: Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com>
Cc: cose <cose@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [COSE] A couple of COSE questions

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Thank you Jim,

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A few comments below.

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On Jun 15, 2017, at 2:01 PM, Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com =
<mailto:ietf@augustcellars.com> > wrote:

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See in line comments

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Jim

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From: COSE [ <mailto:cose-bounces@ietf.org> =
mailto:cose-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Laurence Lundblade
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 12:58 PM
To: cose < <mailto:cose@ietf.org> cose@ietf.org>
Subject: [COSE] A couple of COSE questions

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Hello I have a few questions=E2=80=A6=20

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Registration of hash algs

There=E2=80=99s no assignments for hash algs (SHA-256.. SHA-512, =
SHA3-256=E2=80=A6) in the IANA registry  =
<https://www.iana.org/assignments/cose/cose.xhtml#algorithms> here. I =
assume this is because the COSE protocol doesn=E2=80=99t have a need =
because they are bundled up with the signing alg identifiers.  For =
non-COSE protocols that use CBOR and do have a need to identify a hash, =
would it be reasonable to add them?  The COSE registry seems like it is =
the place to register algorithm IDs for use in CBOR in general.  I =
assume the process would be to write a simple RFC, publish and then add =
to the registry.

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[JLS]  Yes the reason that there are no hash algorithms is that they =
were not needed for any of the core COSE functions.  I am in the process =
of registering two hash functions as part of ietf-schaad-cose-x509.  =
These are a SHA-256 and a truncated SHA-256.  If you want to write up a =
more complete RFC for this that would be fine with me.

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SHA-256 will do for now for me.  Do you have the value for it yet?  I =
don=E2=80=99t have time for a more general write of more algs at the =
moment.=20

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Registration of tagging for COSE messages

Why isn=E2=80=99t there a registry section for the tags for these =
different COSE messages?=20

   COSE_Tagged_Message =3D COSE_Sign_Tagged / COSE_Sign1_Tagged /
       COSE_Encrypt_Tagged / COSE_Encrypt0_Tagged /
       COSE_Mac_Tagged / COSE_Mac0_Tagged

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[JLS] Not too sure what registry you are looking for here.  But I think =
you want this registry  =
<https://www.iana.org/assignments/cbor-tags/cbor-tags.xhtml#tags> =
https://www.iana.org/assignments/cbor-tags/cbor-tags.xhtml#tags

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That=E2=80=99s what I was looking for.=20

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Tagging of bstr wrapped data

It seems like it would be helpful to use an option tag on the =
bstr-wrapped payload for COSE_Sign and such to tell general purpose =
parsers and translators to remove the bstr wrapping and keep going. Tag =
55799 seems like the best fit so far, but it may not be a perfect fit =
and it would be nice to use a tag less than 24.  =20

=20

[JLS]  I am not sure that you would find this generically helpful.  The =
problem is that the parser needs to provide both the encoded version and =
the unencoded version if you are going to do an automatic recursion of =
the CBOR decoder.  You need the first in order to do the signature =
validation processing.  This means that there does not seem to be a real =
point to making the recursion occur automatically that I can see.  We =
have not provided all of the cues that would be needed to do a stream =
decode and validation at the same process ala how CMS does it (and even =
then there are cases where you need to go back and restart the process =
again).

=20

I figured the answer would be along these lines.=20

=20

To be more clear on the use case, it seems you could have a small chunk =
of SW that just does signature verification, that doesn=E2=80=99t really =
understand the details of the payload.  Its output is a yes or no.   =
Then you use a general purpose off-the-shelf CBOR-to-JSON translator on =
the payload.  It only runs if the sig verification passed.=20

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LL

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>No id =
assignment for the algorithms yet because the draft has not gone to =
IANA.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Jim<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Laurence Lundblade =
[mailto:llundbla@qti.qualcomm.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 15, =
2017 2:14 PM<br><b>To:</b> Jim Schaad =
&lt;ietf@augustcellars.com&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> cose =
&lt;cose@ietf.org&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [COSE] A couple of COSE =
questions<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thank =
you Jim,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>A =
few comments below.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On Jun 15, 2017, at 2:01 PM, Jim Schaad &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:ietf@augustcellars.com">ietf@augustcellars.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>See in line comments<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Jim<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>COSE [<a =
href=3D"mailto:cose-bounces@ietf.org"><span =
style=3D'color:purple'>mailto:cose-bounces@ietf.org</span></a>]<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><b>On Behalf Of<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span></b>Laurence =
Lundblade<br><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Thursday, June 15, 2017 12:58 =
PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>cose =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cose@ietf.org"><span =
style=3D'color:purple'>cose@ietf.org</span></a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b><sp=
an class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>[COSE] A couple of COSE =
questions<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Hello I have a few questions=E2=80=A6<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div=
><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><u>Registration of hash =
algs</u><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>There=E2=80=99s no assignments for hash algs =
(SHA-256.. SHA-512, SHA3-256=E2=80=A6) in the IANA registry&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://www.iana.org/assignments/cose/cose.xhtml#algorithms"><spa=
n style=3D'color:purple'>here</span></a>. I assume this is because the =
COSE protocol doesn=E2=80=99t have a need because they are bundled up =
with the signing alg identifiers. &nbsp;For non-COSE protocols that use =
CBOR and do have a need to identify a hash, would it be reasonable to =
add them? &nbsp;The COSE registry seems like it is the place to register =
algorithm IDs for use in CBOR in general. &nbsp;I assume the process =
would be to write a simple RFC, publish and then add to the =
registry.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#0070C0'>[JLS]&nbsp; Yes the =
reason that there are no hash algorithms is that they were not needed =
for any of the core COSE functions.&nbsp; I am in the process of =
registering two hash functions as part of ietf-schaad-cose-x509.&nbsp; =
These are a SHA-256 and a truncated SHA-256.&nbsp; If you want to write =
up a more complete RFC for this that would be fine with =
me.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>SHA-256 will do for now for me. &nbsp;Do you have the =
value for it yet? &nbsp;I don=E2=80=99t have time for a more general =
write of more algs at the moment.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><u>Registration of tagging for COSE =
messages</u><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Why isn=E2=80=99t there a registry section for the =
tags for these different COSE =
messages?&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><pre =
style=3D'break-before: page'>&nbsp;&nbsp; COSE_Tagged_Message =3D =
COSE_Sign_Tagged / COSE_Sign1_Tagged =
/<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
COSE_Encrypt_Tagged / COSE_Encrypt0_Tagged =
/<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
COSE_Mac_Tagged / COSE_Mac0_Tagged<o:p></o:p></pre><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#0070C0'>[JLS] Not too sure what =
registry you are looking for here.&nbsp; But I think you want this =
registry<span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"https://www.iana.org/assignments/cbor-tags/cbor-tags.xhtml#tags">=
<span =
style=3D'color:purple'>https://www.iana.org/assignments/cbor-tags/cbor-ta=
gs.xhtml#tags</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></b=
lockquote><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>That=E2=80=99s what I was looking =
for.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><u>Tagging of bstr wrapped =
data</u><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>It =
seems like it would be helpful to use an option tag on the bstr-wrapped =
payload for COSE_Sign and such to tell general purpose parsers and =
translators to remove the bstr wrapping and keep going. Tag 55799 seems =
like the best fit so far, but it may not be a perfect fit and it would =
be nice to use a tag less than 24. =
&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#0070C0'>[JLS]&nbsp; I am not =
sure that you would find this generically helpful.&nbsp; The problem is =
that the parser needs to provide both the encoded version and the =
unencoded version if you are going to do an automatic recursion of the =
CBOR decoder.&nbsp; You need the first in order to do the signature =
validation processing.&nbsp; This means that there does not seem to be a =
real point to making the recursion occur automatically that I can =
see.&nbsp; We have not provided all of the cues that would be needed to =
do a stream decode and validation at the same process ala how CMS does =
it (and even then there are cases where you need to go back and restart =
the process =
again).</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
figured the answer would be along these =
lines.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>To be more clear on the use case, it seems you could =
have a small chunk of SW that just does signature verification, that =
doesn=E2=80=99t really understand the details of the payload. &nbsp;Its =
output is a yes or no. &nbsp; Then you use a general purpose =
off-the-shelf CBOR-to-JSON translator on the payload. &nbsp;It only runs =
if the sig verification passed.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>LL<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
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Here is my usual eclectic condensed agenda based on the DRAFT AGENDA
for IETF99.  Remember that there is still quite some potential for
changes.

ACE people are going to miss DISPATCH (ARTAREA) again -- not sure if
there would have been be any discussions relevant to Constrained
Nodes/Networks in ARTAREA, but it doesn't make sense with this
scheduling.  CORE people will miss both ANIMA and (in-week) ICNRG.
ROLL people will miss SAAG, ouch.  And LPWAN is on the second half of
QUIC.  All no disasters, AFAICS, but not pain-free.

All times are CEST (UTC+0200).  (You can get pure UTC times on
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/agenda-utc, for those who want to
listen from remote.)

Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten


SATURDAY/SUNDAY
-- T2TRG
-- ICNRG
-- Hackathon (including various interops)

MONDAY, July 17, 2017

0930-1200  Morning Session I
Congress H III	ART	dispatch	Dispatch WG - 09:30-11:30
Grand Hilton BR	INT	6man	IPv6 Maintenance WG
Congress H I	SEC ***	ace	Authentication and Authorization for =
Constrained Environments WG
Congress H III	SEC	curdle	CURves, Deprecating and a Little more =
Encryption WG - 11:30-12:00

1330-1530  Afternoon Session I
Karlin I/II	INT ***	6tisch	IPv6 over the TSCH mode of IEEE =
802.15.4e WG
Grand Hilton BR	INT	homenet	Home Networking WG

1550-1720  Afternoon Session II
Karlin I/II	ART ***	cbor	Concise Binary Object Representation =
Maintenance and Extensions WG
Berlin/Brussels	SEC	tokbind	Token Binding WG

1740-1840  Afternoon Session III
Athens/Barcel.	RTG	babel	Babel routing protocol WG
Grand Hilton BR	TSV	tsvarea	Transport Area Open Meeting

TUESDAY, July 18, 2017

0930-1200  Morning Session I
Congress H II	OPS	v6ops	IPv6 Operations WG
Congress H I	TSV	taps	Transport Services WG

1330-1530  Afternoon Session I
Grand Hilton BR	IRTF***	t2trg	Thing-to-Thing
Berlin/Brussels	SEC	oauth	Web Authorization Protocol WG
Congress H I	TSV	tsvwg	Transport Area Working Group WG

1550-1750  Afternoon Session II
Karlin I/II	INT ***	6lo	IPv6 over Networks of =
Resource-constrained Nodes WG
Congress H I	IRTF	cfrg	Crypto Forum

WEDNESDAY, July 19, 2017

0930-1200  Morning Session I
Congress H I	ART ***	core	Constrained RESTful Environments WG
Karlin I/II	IRTF	icnrg	Information-Centric Networking
Congress H III	OPS	anima	Autonomic Networking Integrated Model =
and Approach WG
Congress H II	RTG	rtgarea	Routing Area Open Meeting
Grand Hilton BR	SEC	tls	Transport Layer Security WG
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1550-1750  Afternoon Session II
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1810-1910  Afternoon Session III
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Karlin I/II	RTG	bier	Bit Indexed Explicit Replication WG
Congress H III	TSV	tsvwg	Transport Area Working Group WG

FRIDAY, July 21, 2017

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Berlin/Brussels	INT	dnssd	Extensions for Scalable DNS Service =
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Karlin I/II	INT ***	lpwan	IPv6 over Low Power Wide-Area Networks =
WG
Karlin III	SEC	oauth	Web Authorization Protocol WG
Grand Hilton BR	TSV	quic	QUIC WG

1150-1320  Afternoon Session II
Congress H III	ART ***	core	Constrained RESTful Environments WG
Grand Hilton BR	SEC	acme	Automated Certificate Management =
Environment WG



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The IESG approved the =93Using RSA Algorithms with COSE Messages=94 specifi=
cation for publication as an RFC today.  A new version was published incorp=
orating the IESG feedback.  Thanks to Ben Campbell, Eric Rescorla, and Adam=
 Roach for their review comments.  No normative changes were made.

The specification is available at:

  *   https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jones-cose-rsa-05

An HTML-formatted version is also available at:

  *   http://self-issued.info/docs/draft-jones-cose-rsa-05.html

                                                       -- Mike

P.S.  This notice was also posted at http://self-issued.info/?p=3D1703 and =
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OSE Messages=94 specification for publication as an RFC today.&nbsp; A new =
version was published incorporating the IESG feedback.&nbsp; Thanks to Ben =
Campbell, Eric Rescorla, and Adam Roach for their
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Subject: [COSE] Constrained Node/Network Cluster @ IETF99: "FINAL" AGENDA
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Here is my usual eclectic condensed agenda, now based on the "FINAL"
AGENDA for IETF99.  Compared to the last week's draft agenda, dnssd
and acme were moved.  (It is likely that there still will be some more
changes after this "FINAL" agenda.)

ACE people are going to miss DISPATCH (ARTAREA) again -- not sure if
there would have been be any discussions relevant to Constrained
Nodes/Networks in ARTAREA, but it doesn't make sense with this
scheduling.  CORE people will miss both ANIMA and (in-week) ICNRG.
ROLL people will miss SAAG, ouch.  And LPWAN is on the second half of
QUIC.  All no disasters, AFAICS, but not pain-free.

All times are CEST (UTC+0200).  (You can get pure UTC times on
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/agenda-utc, for those who want to
listen from remote.)


SATURDAY, July 15, 2017

0900-1700  ACM, IRTF & ISOC Applied Networking Research Workshop 2017 =
(Registration Required) - Athens/Barcelona
0900-1800  T2TRG Interim Meeting - Berlin/Brussels
0900-2100  IETF Hackathon - Chez Louis

SUNDAY, July 16, 2017

0900-1600  T2TRG Interim Meeting - Berlin/Brussels
0900-1600  IETF Hackathon - Chez Louis
1345-1445  IEEE 802.1 Time-Sensitive Networking - Congress Hall III
1345-1445  IRTF Overview - Congress Hall I
1345-1445  TEEP Tutorial - Karlin I/II
1600-1700  Newcomers' Meet and Greet (open to Newcomers, WG chairs and =
Mentors only) - Garden Terrace
1700-1900  Welcome Reception - Grand Hilton Ballroom & Foyer

MONDAY, July 17, 2017

0930-1200  Morning Session I
Congress H III	ART	dispatch	Dispatch WG - 09:30-11:30
Grand Hilton BR	INT	6man	IPv6 Maintenance WG
Congress H I	SEC ***	ace	Authentication and Authorization for =
Constrained Environments WG
Congress H III	SEC	curdle	CURves, Deprecating and a Little more =
Encryption WG - 11:30-12:00

1330-1530  Afternoon Session I
Karlin I/II	INT ***	6tisch	IPv6 over the TSCH mode of IEEE =
802.15.4e WG
Grand Hilton BR	INT	homenet	Home Networking WG

1550-1720  Afternoon Session II
Karlin I/II	ART ***	cbor	Concise Binary Object Representation =
Maintenance and Extensions WG
Berlin/Brussels	SEC	tokbind	Token Binding WG

1740-1840  Afternoon Session III
Athens/Barcel.	RTG	babel	Babel routing protocol WG
Grand Hilton BR	TSV	tsvarea	Transport Area Open Meeting

TUESDAY, July 18, 2017

0930-1200  Morning Session I
Congress H II	OPS	v6ops	IPv6 Operations WG
Congress H I	TSV	taps	Transport Services WG

1330-1530  Afternoon Session I
Grand Hilton BR	IRTF***	t2trg	Thing-to-Thing
Berlin/Brussels	SEC	oauth	Web Authorization Protocol WG
Congress H I	TSV	tsvwg	Transport Area Working Group WG

1550-1750  Afternoon Session II
Karlin I/II	INT ***	6lo	IPv6 over Networks of =
Resource-constrained Nodes WG
Congress H I	IRTF	cfrg	Crypto Forum

WEDNESDAY, July 19, 2017

0930-1200  Morning Session I
Congress H I	ART ***	core	Constrained RESTful Environments WG
Karlin I/II	IRTF	icnrg	Information-Centric Networking
Congress H III	OPS	anima	Autonomic Networking Integrated Model =
and Approach WG
Congress H II	RTG	rtgarea	Routing Area Open Meeting
Grand Hilton BR	SEC	tls	Transport Layer Security WG
Karlin III	TSV	rmcat	RTP Media Congestion Avoidance =
Techniques WG

1330-1500  Afternoon Session I
Grand Hilton BR	ART	httpbis	Hypertext Transfer Protocol WG
Congress H III	IRTF	panrg	Proposed Path Aware Networking
Congress H II	RTG	ideas	IDentity Enabled Networks BOF

1520-1650  Afternoon Session II
Grand Hilton BR	ART	httpbis	Hypertext Transfer Protocol WG
Athens/Barcel.	INT	dnssd	Extensions for Scalable DNS Service =
Discovery  WG

THURSDAY, July 20, 2017

0930-1200  Morning Session I
Grand Hilton BR	INT	intarea	Internet Area Working Group WG
Congress H II	IRTF	maprg	Measurement and Analysis for Protocols
Congress H I	RTG	detnet	Deterministic Networking WG

1330-1530  Afternoon Session I
Berlin/Brussels	ART	ice	Interactive Connectivity Establishment =
WG
Grand Hilton BR	OPS	v6ops	IPv6 Operations WG
Karlin I/II	RTG ***	roll	Routing Over Low power and Lossy =
networks WG
Congress H III	SEC	saag	Security Area Open Meeting

1550-1750  Afternoon Session II
Athens/Barcel.	INT	ipwave	IP Wireless Access in Vehicular =
Environments WG
Grand Hilton BR	TSV	quic	QUIC WG

1810-1910  Afternoon Session III
Berlin/Brussels	ART	uta	Using TLS in Applications WG
Athens/Barcel.	INT ***	lwig	Light-Weight Implementation Guidance WG
Karlin I/II	RTG	bier	Bit Indexed Explicit Replication WG
Congress H III	TSV	tsvwg	Transport Area Working Group WG

FRIDAY, July 21, 2017

0930-1130  Morning Session I
Karlin I/II	INT ***	lpwan	IPv6 over Low Power Wide-Area Networks =
WG
Athens/Barcel.	SEC	acme	Automated Certificate Management =
Environment WG
Karlin III	SEC	oauth	Web Authorization Protocol WG
Grand Hilton BR	TSV	quic	QUIC WG

1150-1320  Afternoon Session II
Congress H III	ART ***	core	Constrained RESTful Environments WG


