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The CBOR Object Signing and Encryption (cose) WG in the Security Area of the
IETF has been rechartered. For additional information, please contact the
Area Directors or the WG Chairs.

CBOR Object Signing and Encryption (cose)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Current status: Proposed WG

Chairs:
  Matthew Miller <linuxwolf+ietf@outer-planes.net>
  Ivaylo Petrov <ivaylo@ackl.io>

Assigned Area Director:
  Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>

Security Area Directors:
  Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
  Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>

Mailing list:
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Group page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/cose/

Charter: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-cose/

CBOR Object Signing and Encryption (COSE, RFC 8152) describes how to
create and process signatures, message authentication codes, and
encryption using Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR, RFC 7049)
for serialization.  COSE additionally describes a representation for
cryptographic keys.

COSE has been picked up and is being used both by a number of groups
within the IETF (i.e. ACE, CORE, ANIMA, 6TiSCH and SUIT) as well as
outside of the IETF (i.e. W3C and FIDO).  There are a number of
implementations, both open source and private, now in existence.  The
specification is now sufficiently mature that it makes sense to try
and advance it to STD status.

The standards progression work will focus on:
1. Should the document be split in two?  The first document would
   contain the definitions of the structures and rules for processing
   them.  The second document would contain the set of original
   algorithms that were defined.
2. What areas in the document need clarification before the document
   can be progressed?
3. What implementations exist and do they cover all of the major
   sections of the document?
4. Resolution of any Errata or ambiguities in the document

There are a small number of COSE related documents that will also be
addressed by the working group dealing with additional attributes and
algorithms that need to be reviewed and published.  The first set
are listed below in the deliverables.  A re-charter will be required
to expand this list.

The SUIT working group has identified a need for the use of hash-based
signatures in the form of Leighton-Micali Signatures (LMS)
(draft-mcgrew-hash-sigs).  This signature form is resistant to quantum
computer attacks and is low-cost for validation.  The SUIT working group
additionally has identified a need for registering hash functions for
indirect packaging.

The W3C Web Authentication working group has identified a need for the
ability to use algorithms which are currently part of TPMs which are
widely deployed.

At the time COSE was developed, there was a sense that X.509
certificates were not a feature that needed to be transferred from the
JOSE key document (RFC 7517).  Since that time a better sense of how
X.509 certificates would be used both in the IoT sphere and with COSE
outside of the IoT sphere has been developed.  The ability to identify
or carry X.509 certificates now needs to be provided.  This will require
the definition of a small number of hash functions for compact references
to X.509 certificates.

Key management and binding of keys to identities are out of scope for
the working group.  The COSE WG will not innovate in terms of
cryptography.  The specification of algorithms in COSE is limited to
those in RFCs, active CFRG or IETF WG documents, or algorithms which
have been positively reviewed by the CFRG.

The working group will coordinate its progress with the ACE, SUIT and
CORE working groups to ensure that we are fulfilling the needs of
these constituencies to the extent relevant to their work.  Other
groups may be added to this list as the set of use cases is expanded,
in consultation with the responsible Area Director.

The WG will have five deliverables:

1. Republishing a version of RFC 8152 suitable for advancement to Internet
   Standard.
2. Use of Hash-based Signature algorithms in COSE using
   draft-housley-suit-cose-hash-sig as a starting point (Informational).
3. Placement of X.509 certificates in COSE messages and keys using
   draft-schaad-cose-x509 as a starting point (Informational).
4. Define the algorithms needed for W3C Web Authentication for COSE using
   draft-jones-webauthn-cose-algorithms and draft-jones-webauthn-secp256k1
   as a starting point (Informational).
5. Define a small number of hash functions for X.509 certificate thumbprints
   and for indirect signing (for SUIT) (Informational).



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YEAAAAAH

And many thanks to EKR.

Jim


> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: [COSE] WG Action: Rechartered CBOR Object Signing and Encryption
> (cose)
> 
> The CBOR Object Signing and Encryption (cose) WG in the Security Area of
the
> IETF has been rechartered. For additional information, please contact the
Area
> Directors or the WG Chairs.
> 
> CBOR Object Signing and Encryption (cose)
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Current status: Proposed WG
> 
> Chairs:
>   Matthew Miller <linuxwolf+ietf@outer-planes.net>
>   Ivaylo Petrov <ivaylo@ackl.io>
> 
> Assigned Area Director:
>   Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
> 
> Security Area Directors:
>   Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
>   Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>
> 
> Mailing list:
>   Address: cose@ietf.org
>   To subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose
>   Archive: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/cose/
> 
> Group page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/cose/
> 
> Charter: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-cose/
> 
> CBOR Object Signing and Encryption (COSE, RFC 8152) describes how to
create
> and process signatures, message authentication codes, and encryption using
> Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR, RFC 7049) for serialization.
> COSE additionally describes a representation for cryptographic keys.
> 
> COSE has been picked up and is being used both by a number of groups
within
> the IETF (i.e. ACE, CORE, ANIMA, 6TiSCH and SUIT) as well as outside of
the
> IETF (i.e. W3C and FIDO).  There are a number of implementations, both
open
> source and private, now in existence.  The specification is now
sufficiently
> mature that it makes sense to try and advance it to STD status.
> 
> The standards progression work will focus on:
> 1. Should the document be split in two?  The first document would
>    contain the definitions of the structures and rules for processing
>    them.  The second document would contain the set of original
>    algorithms that were defined.
> 2. What areas in the document need clarification before the document
>    can be progressed?
> 3. What implementations exist and do they cover all of the major
>    sections of the document?
> 4. Resolution of any Errata or ambiguities in the document
> 
> There are a small number of COSE related documents that will also be
> addressed by the working group dealing with additional attributes and
> algorithms that need to be reviewed and published.  The first set are
listed
> below in the deliverables.  A re-charter will be required to expand this
list.
> 
> The SUIT working group has identified a need for the use of hash-based
> signatures in the form of Leighton-Micali Signatures (LMS) (draft-mcgrew-
> hash-sigs).  This signature form is resistant to quantum computer attacks
and is
> low-cost for validation.  The SUIT working group additionally has
identified a
> need for registering hash functions for indirect packaging.
> 
> The W3C Web Authentication working group has identified a need for the
> ability to use algorithms which are currently part of TPMs which are
widely
> deployed.
> 
> At the time COSE was developed, there was a sense that X.509 certificates
> were not a feature that needed to be transferred from the JOSE key
document
> (RFC 7517).  Since that time a better sense of how
> X.509 certificates would be used both in the IoT sphere and with COSE
outside
> of the IoT sphere has been developed.  The ability to identify or carry
X.509
> certificates now needs to be provided.  This will require the definition
of a
> small number of hash functions for compact references to X.509
certificates.
> 
> Key management and binding of keys to identities are out of scope for the
> working group.  The COSE WG will not innovate in terms of cryptography.
The
> specification of algorithms in COSE is limited to those in RFCs, active
CFRG or
> IETF WG documents, or algorithms which have been positively reviewed by
the
> CFRG.
> 
> The working group will coordinate its progress with the ACE, SUIT and CORE
> working groups to ensure that we are fulfilling the needs of these
> constituencies to the extent relevant to their work.  Other groups may be
added
> to this list as the set of use cases is expanded, in consultation with the
> responsible Area Director.
> 
> The WG will have five deliverables:
> 
> 1. Republishing a version of RFC 8152 suitable for advancement to Internet
>    Standard.
> 2. Use of Hash-based Signature algorithms in COSE using
>    draft-housley-suit-cose-hash-sig as a starting point (Informational).
> 3. Placement of X.509 certificates in COSE messages and keys using
>    draft-schaad-cose-x509 as a starting point (Informational).
> 4. Define the algorithms needed for W3C Web Authentication for COSE using
>    draft-jones-webauthn-cose-algorithms and draft-jones-webauthn-secp256k1
>    as a starting point (Informational).
> 5. Define a small number of hash functions for X.509 certificate
thumbprints
>    and for indirect signing (for SUIT) (Informational).
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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Welcome back COSE Working Group!  Let's get started!

This message begins the call for adoption of the following drafts:

* draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-struct-01
  - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-struct-01
* draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-algs-01
  - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-algs-01

Note that adoption does not mean they are finished, only that they
are an acceptable starting point.

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group items.  You can also provide additional comments on their
adoption.

Adopting both documents means the working group supports splitting
the algorithms from the message structure.

This call will run approximately two weeks, ending January 20.
Please respond before that date.


Regards,

- Ivaylo and Matthew
COSE Working Group Chairs


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As Author I am a definite +1

Jim


> -----Original Message-----
> From: COSE <cose-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Matthew A. Miller
> Sent: Monday, January 7, 2019 6:39 PM
> To: cose <cose@ietf.org>
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> Subject: [COSE] Call for Adoption of draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-*
Documents
> 
> Welcome back COSE Working Group!  Let's get started!
> 
> This message begins the call for adoption of the following drafts:
> 
> * draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-struct-01
>   - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-struct-01
> * draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-algs-01
>   - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-algs-01
> 
> Note that adoption does not mean they are finished, only that they are an
> acceptable starting point.
> 
> Please indicate if you support adopting these documents as working group
> items.  You can also provide additional comments on their adoption.
> 
> Adopting both documents means the working group supports splitting the
> algorithms from the message structure.
> 
> This call will run approximately two weeks, ending January 20.
> Please respond before that date.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> - Ivaylo and Matthew
> COSE Working Group Chairs
> 
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+1

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 6:41 AM Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com> wrote:

> As Author I am a definite +1
>
> Jim
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: COSE <cose-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Matthew A. Miller
> > Sent: Monday, January 7, 2019 6:39 PM
> > To: cose <cose@ietf.org>
> > Cc: cose-chairs@ietf.org
> > Subject: [COSE] Call for Adoption of draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-*
> Documents
> >
> > Welcome back COSE Working Group!  Let's get started!
> >
> > This message begins the call for adoption of the following drafts:
> >
> > * draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-struct-01
> >   - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-struct-01
> > * draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-algs-01
> >   - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-algs-01
> >
> > Note that adoption does not mean they are finished, only that they are an
> > acceptable starting point.
> >
> > Please indicate if you support adopting these documents as working group
> > items.  You can also provide additional comments on their adoption.
> >
> > Adopting both documents means the working group supports splitting the
> > algorithms from the message structure.
> >
> > This call will run approximately two weeks, ending January 20.
> > Please respond before that date.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > - Ivaylo and Matthew
> > COSE Working Group Chairs
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > COSE mailing list
> > COSE@ietf.org
> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose
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<div dir=3D"ltr">+1<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr=
">On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 6:41 AM Jim Schaad &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ietf@augu=
stcellars.com">ietf@augustcellars.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote c=
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d rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">As Author I am a definite +1<br>
<br>
Jim<br>
<br>
<br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: COSE &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cose-bounces@ietf.org" target=3D"_bla=
nk">cose-bounces@ietf.org</a>&gt; On Behalf Of Matthew A. Miller<br>
&gt; Sent: Monday, January 7, 2019 6:39 PM<br>
&gt; To: cose &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cose@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">cose@i=
etf.org</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:cose-chairs@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">cose-cha=
irs@ietf.org</a><br>
&gt; Subject: [COSE] Call for Adoption of draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-*<br=
>
Documents<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Welcome back COSE Working Group!=C2=A0 Let&#39;s get started!<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; This message begins the call for adoption of the following drafts:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; * draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-struct-01<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0- <a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schaad-cose=
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etf.org/html/draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-struct-01</a><br>
&gt; * draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-algs-01<br>
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-rfc8152bis-algs-01" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://tools.iet=
f.org/html/draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-algs-01</a><br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Note that adoption does not mean they are finished, only that they are=
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&gt; acceptable starting point.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Please indicate if you support adopting these documents as working gro=
up<br>
&gt; items.=C2=A0 You can also provide additional comments on their adoptio=
n.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Adopting both documents means the working group supports splitting the=
<br>
&gt; algorithms from the message structure.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; This call will run approximately two weeks, ending January 20.<br>
&gt; Please respond before that date.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Regards,<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; - Ivaylo and Matthew<br>
&gt; COSE Working Group Chairs<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; COSE mailing list<br>
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&gt; <a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose" rel=3D"noreferr=
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Subject: Re: [COSE] Call for Adoption of draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-* Documents
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On 08/01/2019 03:39, Matthew A. Miller wrote:
> Welcome back COSE Working Group!  Let's get started!
> 
> This message begins the call for adoption of the following drafts:
> 
> * draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-struct-01
>    - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-struct-01
> * draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-algs-01
>    - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-algs-01
> 
> Note that adoption does not mean they are finished, only that they
> are an acceptable starting point.
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> Please indicate if you support adopting these documents as working
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I support adoption of both documents.

/Ludwig


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Subject: Re: [COSE] Call for Adoption of draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-* Documents
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Yes, we should adopt both documents.

I would like to see RFC 5649, the AES Key Wrap with Padding Algorithm =
added to Section 6.  That can happen after adoption.

Russ


> On Jan 7, 2019, at 9:39 PM, Matthew A. Miller =
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> Welcome back COSE Working Group!  Let's get started!
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> This message begins the call for adoption of the following drafts:
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> * draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-struct-01
>  - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-struct-01
> * draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-algs-01
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> Note that adoption does not mean they are finished, only that they
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> Please indicate if you support adopting these documents as working
> group items.  You can also provide additional comments on their
> adoption.
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> Adopting both documents means the working group supports splitting
> the algorithms from the message structure.
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> This call will run approximately two weeks, ending January 20.
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So I did a quick run through on this document with the intention of starting
an implementation.  During this process I came across the following issues:

* There should be a note someplace in the document to the effect that if a
new group id is generated, then there must be no reliance on the kid for an
entity being the same.  This can only be done by looking at the signing
public key.   Also if an entity gets to the point of nearing a roll-over,
then the Group Manager could just assign a new kid rather than re-keying the
entire group.

* Section 4.1 - Given that the signature is no longer part of the option
value, something that is both good and bad, I am unsure that there is any
requirement for the 'CounterSignature0' bit to be part of the bit array.
According to the requirements, one can always assume that for a group
message the counter signature will always be appended to the encrypted text.

* Section 3.  I am not clear if the group ID should be part of the aad_array
or not.  If it does not need to be present then I think that some text as to
why it does not need to be covered would be appreciated.  I should note that
I don't think that it needs to be there but have not proven it to my
satisfaction yet.

* Section 5 - The text says that Observe is not defined for group setting.
I am not sure that this is a true statement.  RFC 7641 does not say anything
one way or another about doing observer for multicast.  The only issue that
I can see is the fact that the path may not always be setup correctly if
going through a proxy, but for local network without a proxy I don't see any
reason why it should not work.

* Section 5.1 - I am unclear of why you are looking at talking about
re-transmission in this context.  This needs to be clarified.

* Section 6. - The fact that they are non-confirmable does not preclude
acknowledgement even in a group situation.  It may not be advised in general
but it is allowed.

* Section 6. - Note that responses can be confirmable even if the request is
not.

* Section 6.1 - You are missing the signature step here.

* Section 6.2 - I believe that there should be the ability to decouple the
processing of a response from the query back to the GM.  Specifically, if
you get a new kid for the group id, one should be able to ignore the current
message and start an async request for the new keying information on that
new sender.  Forbidding this should be an application decision not general
purpose.  Perhaps this should also include a note about the fact that a
server might observer the GM in order to get these new kids in a timely
manner.

* 




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Dear all,

I also support the adoption of the two documents.

Cheers
Alexander



> On 8 Jan 2019, at 18:42, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote:
>=20
> Yes, we should adopt both documents.
>=20
> I would like to see RFC 5649, the AES Key Wrap with Padding Algorithm =
added to Section 6.  That can happen after adoption.
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> Russ
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>=20
>> On Jan 7, 2019, at 9:39 PM, Matthew A. Miller =
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>> Welcome back COSE Working Group!  Let's get started!
>>=20
>> This message begins the call for adoption of the following drafts:
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>> * draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-struct-01
>> - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-struct-01
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>> Note that adoption does not mean they are finished, only that they
>> are an acceptable starting point.
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>> adoption.
>>=20
>> Adopting both documents means the working group supports splitting
>> the algorithms from the message structure.
>>=20
>> This call will run approximately two weeks, ending January 20.
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On Jan 8, 2019, at 11:11, Ludwig Seitz <ludwig.seitz@ri.se> wrote:
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Dear all,

During some discussion with draft authors, it became apparent that a
virtual interim meeting before IETF-104 could be quite useful for the
working group. We would like to select the date that is most appropriate
for everyone, so here is a link to a doodle poll where you can provide your
disponibilities.

https://doodle.com/poll/hd6pucugeynpy4sc

Please vote before the end of the week (evening of 20/01/2018), as next
Monday we would like to start the process for scheduling the meeting, which
will take around two weeks.

We hope to see you all there!

Best regards,

- Ivaylo and Matthew
COSE Working Group Chairs

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the CBOR Object Signing and Encryption WG of the IETF.

        Title           : Use of the Hash-based Signature Algorithm with CBOR Object Signing and Encryption (COSE)
        Author          : Russ Housley
	Filename        : draft-ietf-cose-hash-sig-00.txt
	Pages           : 11
	Date            : 2019-01-15

Abstract:
   This document specifies the conventions for using the Leighton-Micali
   Signature (LMS) algorithm for digital signatures with the CBOR Object
   Signing and Encryption (COSE) syntax.


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The following errata report has been verified for RFC8152,
"CBOR Object Signing and Encryption (COSE)". 

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You may review the report below and at:
http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5545

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Status: Verified
Type: Technical

Reported by: Francesca Palombini <francesca.palombini@ericsson.com>
Date Reported: 2018-11-05
Verified by: Benjamin Kaduk (IESG)

Section: 7.1

Original Text
-------------
   +---------+-------+----------------+------------+-------------------+
   | Name    | Label | CBOR Type      | Value      | Description       |
   |         |       |                | Registry   |                   |
   +---------+-------+----------------+------------+-------------------+
   | kty     | 1     | tstr / int     | COSE Key   | Identification of |
   |         |       |                | Common     | the key type      |
   |         |       |                | Parameters |                   |
   |         |       |                |            |                   |
   | kid     | 2     | bstr           |            | Key               |
   |         |       |                |            | identification    |
   |         |       |                |            | value -- match to |
   |         |       |                |            | kid in message    |
   |         |       |                |            |                   |
   | alg     | 3     | tstr / int     | COSE       | Key usage         |
   |         |       |                | Algorithms | restriction to    |
   |         |       |                |            | this algorithm    |
   |         |       |                |            |                   |
   | key_ops | 4     | [+ (tstr/int)] |            | Restrict set of   |
   |         |       |                |            | permissible       |
   |         |       |                |            | operations        |
   |         |       |                |            |                   |
   | Base IV | 5     | bstr           |            | Base IV to be     |
   |         |       |                |            | xor-ed with       |
   |         |       |                |            | Partial IVs       |
   +---------+-------+----------------+------------+-------------------+

                          Table 3: Key Map Labels

Corrected Text
--------------
   +---------+-------+----------------+------------+-------------------+
   | Name    | Label | CBOR Type      | Value      | Description       |
   |         |       |                | Registry   |                   |
   +---------+-------+----------------+------------+-------------------+
   | kty     | 1     | tstr / int     | COSE Key   | Identification of |
   |         |       |                | Types      | the key type      |
   |         |       |                |            |                   |
   |         |       |                |            |                   |
   | kid     | 2     | bstr           |            | Key               |
   |         |       |                |            | identification    |
   |         |       |                |            | value -- match to |
   |         |       |                |            | kid in message    |
   |         |       |                |            |                   |
   | alg     | 3     | tstr / int     | COSE       | Key usage         |
   |         |       |                | Algorithms | restriction to    |
   |         |       |                |            | this algorithm    |
   |         |       |                |            |                   |
   | key_ops | 4     | [+ (tstr/int)] |            | Restrict set of   |
   |         |       |                |            | permissible       |
   |         |       |                |            | operations        |
   |         |       |                |            |                   |
   | Base IV | 5     | bstr           |            | Base IV to be     |
   |         |       |                |            | xor-ed with       |
   |         |       |                |            | Partial IVs       |
   +---------+-------+----------------+------------+-------------------+

                          Table 3: Key Map Labels

Notes
-----
The value registry for kty should be COSE Key Types, as indicated in the text following Table 3. This change affects the IANA registry: https://www.iana.org/assignments/cose/cose.xhtml#key-common-parameters

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RFC8152 (draft-ietf-cose-msg-24)
--------------------------------------
Title               : CBOR Object Signing and Encryption (COSE)
Publication Date    : July 2017
Author(s)           : J. Schaad
Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
Source              : CBOR Object Signing and Encryption
Area                : Security
Stream              : IETF
Verifying Party     : IESG


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I would very much like to see this document adopted. I think this will give
COSE a better chanse of getting integrated with existing infrastructure.

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> Dear WG,
>
> This message begins the call for adoption of the following draft:
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I support adoption of this.  There are some known CoAP scenarios where =
certificates are highly desired.

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From: COSE <cose-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of ivaylo petrov
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 7:48 AM
To: cose <cose@ietf.org>
Cc: cose-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: [COSE] Call for Adoption of draft-schaad-cose-x509 Document

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Dear WG,


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This message begins the call for adoption of the following draft:

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* draft-schaad-cose-x509-03

  - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schaad-cose-x509-03

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We would like to remind you that adoption does not mean they are =
finished, only that they are an acceptable starting point.

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If you have read the draft, please indicate whether you support adopting =
that documents as working group items. If you see any problem with =
adopting it or have any other comment, please tell us.

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This call will run approximately two weeks, ending January 28.

Please respond before that date.

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Dear all,

Agree with Jim.

+1 on adoption.

Alexander


On Thu, Jan 17, 2019, 7:21 AM Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com wrote:

> I support adoption of this.  There are some known CoAP scenarios where
> certificates are highly desired.
>
>
>
> *From:* COSE <cose-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of *ivaylo petrov
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 16, 2019 7:48 AM
> *To:* cose <cose@ietf.org>
> *Cc:* cose-chairs@ietf.org
> *Subject:* [COSE] Call for Adoption of draft-schaad-cose-x509 Document
>
>
>
> Dear WG,
>
>
>
> This message begins the call for adoption of the following draft:
>
>
>
> * draft-schaad-cose-x509-03
>
>   - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schaad-cose-x509-03
>
>
>
> We would like to remind you that adoption does not mean they are finished,
> only that they are an acceptable starting point.
>
>
>
> If you have read the draft, please indicate whether you support adopting
> that documents as working group items. If you see any problem with adopting
> it or have any other comment, please tell us.
>
>
>
> This call will run approximately two weeks, ending January 28.
>
> Please respond before that date.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> - Matthew and Ivaylo
>
> COSE Working Group Chairs
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v lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div class=3D"m_-2515640910=
539712614WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I support adoption of this.=
=C2=A0 There are some known CoAP scenarios where certificates are highly de=
sired.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div=
 style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0p=
t"><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.=
0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> COSE &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:cose-bounces@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">cose-bounc=
es@ietf.org</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>ivaylo petrov<br><b>Sent:</b> Wedne=
sday, January 16, 2019 7:48 AM<br><b>To:</b> cose &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cos=
e@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">cose@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br><=
b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:cose-chairs@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"=
noreferrer">cose-chairs@ietf.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [COSE] Call for Ado=
ption of draft-schaad-cose-x509 Document<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot=
;,sans-serif;color:#0b5394">Dear WG,</span><br clear=3D"all"><u></u><u></u>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sa=
ns-serif;color:#0b5394">This message begins the call for adoption of the fo=
llowing draft:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0b5394"><u><=
/u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0b5394">* draft-schaad-c=
ose-x509-03<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0b5394">=C2=A0 =
- <a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schaad-cose-x509-03" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schaad-cos=
e-x509-03</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0b5394"><u></=
u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0b5394">We would like to =
remind you that adoption does not mean they are finished, only that they ar=
e an acceptable starting point.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;co=
lor:#0b5394"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0b5394"=
>If you have read the draft, please indicate whether you support adopting t=
hat documents as working group items. If you see any problem with adopting =
it or have any other comment, please tell us.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div=
><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;=
,sans-serif;color:#0b5394"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;=
color:#0b5394">This call will run approximately two weeks, ending January 2=
8.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0b5394">Please respond b=
efore that date.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0b5394"><u=
></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0b5394">Best regards,=
<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0b5394"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></=
u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&=
quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0b5394">- Matthew and Ivaylo<u></u><u>=
</u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family=
:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:#0b5394">COSE Working Group Chairs<u>=
</u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><=
div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div></d=
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[ doffs hat ]

I support adoption of this document.


- m&m

Matthew A. Miller
On 19/01/16 08:48, ivaylo petrov wrote:
> Dear WG,
> 
> This message begins the call for adoption of the following draft:
> 
> * draft-schaad-cose-x509-03
>   - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schaad-cose-x509-03
> 
> We would like to remind you that adoption does not mean they are
> finished, only that they are an acceptable starting point.
> 
> If you have read the draft, please indicate whether you support adopting
> that documents as working group items. If you see any problem with
> adopting it or have any other comment, please tell us.
> 
> This call will run approximately two weeks, ending January 28.
> Please respond before that date.
> 
> Best regards,
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> - Matthew and Ivaylo
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Subject: Re: [COSE] Call for Adoption of draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-* Documents
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[ dons hat ]

Gentle reminder that the call for adoption of these documents ends soon.

[ doffs hat ]

I support adopting both documents.


- m&m

Matthew A. Miller
On 19/01/07 19:39, Matthew A. Miller wrote:
> Welcome back COSE Working Group!  Let's get started!
> 
> This message begins the call for adoption of the following drafts:
> 
> * draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-struct-01
>   - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-struct-01
> * draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-algs-01
>   - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-algs-01
> 
> Note that adoption does not mean they are finished, only that they
> are an acceptable starting point.
> 
> Please indicate if you support adopting these documents as working
> group items.  You can also provide additional comments on their
> adoption.
> 
> Adopting both documents means the working group supports splitting
> the algorithms from the message structure.
> 
> This call will run approximately two weeks, ending January 20.
> Please respond before that date.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> - Ivaylo and Matthew
> COSE Working Group Chairs
> 


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I support from the perspective of EAT / RATS and similar use cases for =
this from when I was previously at Qualcomm.

Perhaps tangental to the main point of this draft, I would like to see =
alg ids for SHA-384 and SHA-512 too.=20

LL


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[ doffs hat ]

I support adopting both documents.


- Ivaylo

On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 6:33 PM G=C3=B6ran Selander <goran.selander@ericsso=
n.com>
wrote:

> +1
>
> G=C3=B6ran
>
>
>
>
>     I support adopting both documents.
>
>
>     - m&m
>
>     Matthew A. Miller
>     On 19/01/07 19:39, Matthew A. Miller wrote:
>     > Welcome back COSE Working Group!  Let's get started!
>     >
>     > This message begins the call for adoption of the following drafts:
>     >
>     > * draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-struct-01
>     >   -
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-struct-01
>     > * draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-algs-01
>     >   - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-algs-0=
1
>     >
>     > Note that adoption does not mean they are finished, only that they
>     > are an acceptable starting point.
>     >
>     > Please indicate if you support adopting these documents as working
>     > group items.  You can also provide additional comments on their
>     > adoption.
>     >
>     > Adopting both documents means the working group supports splitting
>     > the algorithms from the message structure.
>     >
>     > This call will run approximately two weeks, ending January 20.
>     > Please respond before that date.
>     >
>     >
>     > Regards,
>     >
>     > - Ivaylo and Matthew
>     > COSE Working Group Chairs
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,=
sans-serif;color:#0b5394"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Ar=
ial,Helvetica,sans-serif">[ doffs hat ]</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,=
34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34=
);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34=
);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">I support adopting both documents=
.</span><br clear=3D"all"></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-=
family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#0b5394"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34)=
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il_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#0b5394"><span st=
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an></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-ser=
if;color:#0b5394"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helv=
etica,sans-serif">- Ivaylo</span></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 6:33 PM G=C3=
=B6ran Selander &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:goran.selander@ericsson.com">goran.se=
lander@ericsson.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)=
;padding-left:1ex">+1<br>
<br>
G=C3=B6ran<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I support adopting both documents.<br>
<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - m&amp;m<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Matthew A. Miller<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 On 19/01/07 19:39, Matthew A. Miller wrote:<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; Welcome back COSE Working Group!=C2=A0 Let&#39;s get sta=
rted!<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; <br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; This message begins the call for adoption of the followi=
ng drafts:<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; <br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; * draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-struct-01<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0- <a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/dra=
ft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-struct-01" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">h=
ttps://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-struct-01</a><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; * draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-algs-01<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0- <a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/dra=
ft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-algs-01" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">htt=
ps://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-algs-01</a><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; <br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; Note that adoption does not mean they are finished, only=
 that they<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; are an acceptable starting point.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; <br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; Please indicate if you support adopting these documents =
as working<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; group items.=C2=A0 You can also provide additional comme=
nts on their<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; adoption.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; <br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; Adopting both documents means the working group supports=
 splitting<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; the algorithms from the message structure.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; <br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; This call will run approximately two weeks, ending Janua=
ry 20.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; Please respond before that date.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; <br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; <br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; Regards,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; <br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; - Ivaylo and Matthew<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; COSE Working Group Chairs<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 &gt; <br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 _______________________________________________<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 COSE mailing list<br>
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The document itself needs to be relatively stable before the values =
themselves can be assigned as provisional items.  Providing a review of =
the document is a good step towards that aim.  What are the items that =
you have a need for and are they being met by the document?  Is the =
document clear about what is being proposed?

Jim


> -----Original Message-----
> From: COSE <cose-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of DESPERRIER Jean-Marc
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 6:28 AM
> To: cose <cose@ietf.org>; cose-chairs@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [COSE] Call for Adoption of draft-schaad-cose-x509 =
Document
>=20
> I support adoption of this document, from the perspective of using it =
in the
> ISO/IEC CD 18013-5 standard currently under development, currently =
being
> reorganized for an extensive use of cbor.
>=20
> Will stable values be reserved soon after adaptation for the TBD =
values
> currently in the document ?
>=20
> On 19/01/16 08:48, ivaylo petrov wrote:
> > Dear WG,
> >
> > This message begins the call for adoption of the following draft:
> >
> > * draft-schaad-cose-x509-03
> >   -
> > =
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__tools.ietf.org_ht
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> > We would like to remind you that adoption does not mean they are
> > finished, only that they are an acceptable starting point.
> >
> > If you have read the draft, please indicate whether you support
> > adopting that documents as working group items. If you see any =
problem
> > with adopting it or have any other comment, please tell us.
> >
> > This call will run approximately two weeks, ending January 28.
> > Please respond before that date.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > - Matthew and Ivaylo
> > COSE Working Group Chairs
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Working Group Name: CBOR Object Signing and Encryption
Area Name: Security Area
Session Requester: Ivaylo Petrov

Number of Sessions: 1
Length of Session(s):  2 Hours
Number of Attendees: 75
Conflicts to Avoid: 
 First Priority:  ace cbor core lamps lpwan oauth saag secdispatch secevent suit stir
 Second Priority:  cfrg emu
 Third Priority:  6tisch dispatch t2trg


People who must be present:
  Eric Rescorla
  Matthew A. Miller
  Ivaylo Petrov

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Dear WG,

The request for the virtual interim has been sent. The meeting should take
place on Friday 15.02.2019 from 19:00 to 20:00 CET (18:00 to 19:00 UTC).
Additional details will be published after the meeting has been formally
approved.

Best regards,

- Matthew and Ivaylo
COSE Working Group Chairs


On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 8:53 AM ivaylo petrov <ivaylo@ackl.io> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> During some discussion with draft authors, it became apparent that a
> virtual interim meeting before IETF-104 could be quite useful for the
> working group. We would like to select the date that is most appropriate
> for everyone, so here is a link to a doodle poll where you can provide your
> disponibilities.
>
> https://doodle.com/poll/hd6pucugeynpy4sc
>
> Please vote before the end of the week (evening of 20/01/2018), as next
> Monday we would like to start the process for scheduling the meeting, which
> will take around two weeks.
>
> We hope to see you all there!
>
> Best regards,
>
> - Ivaylo and Matthew
> COSE Working Group Chairs
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,=
sans-serif;color:#0b5394">Dear WG,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#0b5394"><br></div><div class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#0b5394">The re=
quest for the virtual interim has been sent. The meeting should take place =
on Friday 15.02.2019 from 19:00 to 20:00 CET (18:00 to 19:00 UTC). Addition=
al details will be published after the meeting has been formally approved.<=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;c=
olor:#0b5394"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:v=
erdana,sans-serif;color:#0b5394">Best regards,</div><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:#0b5394"><br></div><div=
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il_default"><div class=3D"gmail_default"><font face=3D"verdana, sans-serif"=
 color=3D"#0b5394">- Matthew and <font face=3D"verdana, sans-serif" color=
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ace=3D"verdana, sans-serif" color=3D"#0b5394">COSE Working Group Chairs</fo=
nt></div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cl=
ass=3D"gmail-m_8687441619620672484gmail-m_9136677468160864901gmail_attr">On=
 Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 8:53 AM ivaylo petrov &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ivaylo@ac=
kl.io" target=3D"_blank">ivaylo@ackl.io</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote=
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lid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-=
family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">Dear all,</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,=
148)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,s=
ans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)">During some discussion with draft authors, =
it became apparent that a virtual interim meeting before IETF-104 could be =
quite useful for the working group. We would like to select the date that i=
s most appropriate for everyone, so here is a link to a doodle=C2=A0poll wh=
ere you can provide your disponibilities.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default"=
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iv class=3D"gmail_default"><font face=3D"verdana, sans-serif" color=3D"#0b5=
394"><a href=3D"https://doodle.com/poll/hd6pucugeynpy4sc" target=3D"_blank"=
>https://doodle.com/poll/hd6pucugeynpy4sc</a></font><br></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default"><font face=3D"verdana, sans-serif" color=3D"#0b5394"><br></=
font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><font face=3D"verdana, sans-serif" =
color=3D"#0b5394">Please vote before the end of the week (evening of 20/01/=
2018), as next Monday we would like to start the process for scheduling the=
=C2=A0meeting, which will take around two=C2=A0weeks.</font></div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_default"><font face=3D"verdana, sans-serif" color=3D"#0b5394"><b=
r></font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><font face=3D"verdana, sans-ser=
if" color=3D"#0b5394">We hope to see you all there!</font></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default"><font face=3D"verdana, sans-serif" color=3D"#0b5394"><br=
></font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><font face=3D"verdana, sans-seri=
f" color=3D"#0b5394">Best regards,</font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"=
><font face=3D"verdana, sans-serif" color=3D"#0b5394"><br></font></div><div=
 class=3D"gmail_default"><font face=3D"verdana, sans-serif" color=3D"#0b539=
4">- Ivaylo and=C2=A0Matthew</font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><font=
 face=3D"verdana, sans-serif" color=3D"#0b5394">COSE Working Group Chairs<b=
r></font></div></div></div></div></div>
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Subject: [COSE] Adoption of draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-* Documents
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Hello COSE WG,

The call for adoption has concluded.  The chairs note consensus to adopt
both draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-struct and
draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-algs.

A request to support AES KeyWrap with Padding in the algorithms is also
noted.

Jim, please submit each as draft-ietf-cose-* at your convenience.


Thank you,

- Ivaylo and Matthew
COSE WG Chairs
On 19/01/07 19:39, Matthew A. Miller wrote:
> Welcome back COSE Working Group!  Let's get started!
> 
> This message begins the call for adoption of the following drafts:
> 
> * draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-struct-01
>   - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-struct-01
> * draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-algs-01
>   - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-algs-01
> 
> Note that adoption does not mean they are finished, only that they
> are an acceptable starting point.
> 
> Please indicate if you support adopting these documents as working
> group items.  You can also provide additional comments on their
> adoption.
> 
> Adopting both documents means the working group supports splitting
> the algorithms from the message structure.
> 
> This call will run approximately two weeks, ending January 20.
> Please respond before that date.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> - Ivaylo and Matthew
> COSE Working Group Chairs
> 


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the CBOR Object Signing and Encryption WG of the IETF.

        Title           : CBOR Object Signing and Encryption (COSE) - Structures and Process
        Author          : Jim Schaad
	Filename        : draft-ietf-cose-rfc8152bis-struct-00.txt
	Pages           : 80
	Date            : 2019-01-21

Abstract:
   Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR) is a data format designed
   for small code size and small message size.  There is a need for the
   ability to have basic security services defined for this data format.
   This document defines the CBOR Object Signing and Encryption (COSE)
   protocol.  This specification describes how to create and process
   signatures, message authentication codes, and encryption using CBOR
   for serialization.  This specification additionally describes how to
   represent cryptographic keys using CBOR.

   This document along with [I-D.schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-algs] obsoletes
   RFC8152.


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the CBOR Object Signing and Encryption WG of the IETF.

        Title           : CBOR Algorithms for Object Signing and Encryption (COSE)
        Author          : Jim Schaad
	Filename        : draft-ietf-cose-rfc8152bis-algs-00.txt
	Pages           : 44
	Date            : 2019-01-21

Abstract:
   Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR) is a data format designed
   for small code size and small message size.  There is a need for the
   ability to have basic security services defined for this data format.
   This document defines the CBOR Object Signing and Encryption (COSE)
   protocol.  This specification describes how to create and process
   signatures, message authentication codes, and encryption using CBOR
   for serialization.  COSE additionally describes how to represent
   cryptographic keys using CBOR.

   In this specification the conventions for the use of a number of
   cryptographic algorithms with COSE.  The details of the structure of
   COSE are defined in [I-D.schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-struct].

   This document along with [I-D.schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-struct]
   obsoletes RFC8152.


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The CBOR Object Signing and Encryption (cose) Working Group will hold
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As requested, the drafts have been submitted under the new names.  There =
are no changes in the drafts from the previous personal versions.

Jim


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Miller <linuxwolf@outer-planes.net> On Behalf Of Matthew
> A. Miller
> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 9:49 AM
> To: cose <cose@ietf.org>; Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com>
> Cc: cose-chairs@ietf.org
> Subject: Adoption of draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-* Documents
>=20
> Hello COSE WG,
>=20
> The call for adoption has concluded.  The chairs note consensus to =
adopt
> both draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-struct and =
draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-
> algs.
>=20
> A request to support AES KeyWrap with Padding in the algorithms is =
also
> noted.
>=20
> Jim, please submit each as draft-ietf-cose-* at your convenience.
>=20
>=20
> Thank you,
>=20
> - Ivaylo and Matthew
> COSE WG Chairs
> On 19/01/07 19:39, Matthew A. Miller wrote:
> > Welcome back COSE Working Group!  Let's get started!
> >
> > This message begins the call for adoption of the following drafts:
> >
> > * draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-struct-01
> >   - =
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-struct-01
> > * draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-algs-01
> >   - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schaad-cose-rfc8152bis-algs-01
> >
> > Note that adoption does not mean they are finished, only that they =
are
> > an acceptable starting point.
> >
> > Please indicate if you support adopting these documents as working
> > group items.  You can also provide additional comments on their
> > adoption.
> >
> > Adopting both documents means the working group supports splitting =
the
> > algorithms from the message structure.
> >
> > This call will run approximately two weeks, ending January 20.
> > Please respond before that date.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > - Ivaylo and Matthew
> > COSE Working Group Chairs
> >


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Russ,

I will ask the same question that I asked the last time that somebody
requested that we support the AES Key Wrap with Padding Algorithm.  What is
the use case that you have for this algorithm.  This makes a difference in
terms of how things are going to be used and what other things might need to
be specified for this.  I have to admit that I would really prefer to get an
AEAD version of this algorithm if we are going to add something but that I
probably not possible.

Jim



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Jim:

The use case is wrapping PKCS#8 objects, which are not necessarily a =
multiple of 8 octets.

Russ


> On Jan 22, 2019, at 5:09 PM, Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> Russ,
>=20
> I will ask the same question that I asked the last time that somebody
> requested that we support the AES Key Wrap with Padding Algorithm.  =
What is
> the use case that you have for this algorithm.  This makes a =
difference in
> terms of how things are going to be used and what other things might =
need to
> be specified for this.  I have to admit that I would really prefer to =
get an
> AEAD version of this algorithm if we are going to add something but =
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> probably not possible.
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Russ,

That is indeed an interesting use case.  Does this mean that you are really
more interested in using this as a content encryption algorithm rather than
a key encryption algorithm?  I have doubts for this use case that you are
looking to wrap key and are looking to wrap content.  This is different than
a use case where one wishes to use an HMAC algorithm with a key which is not
a multiple of 8 octets.

Jim


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
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> 
> Jim:
> 
> The use case is wrapping PKCS#8 objects, which are not necessarily a
multiple
> of 8 octets.
> 
> Russ
> 
> 
> > On Jan 22, 2019, at 5:09 PM, Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com> wrote:
> >
> > Russ,
> >
> > I will ask the same question that I asked the last time that somebody
> > requested that we support the AES Key Wrap with Padding Algorithm.
> > What is the use case that you have for this algorithm.  This makes a
> > difference in terms of how things are going to be used and what other
> > things might need to be specified for this.  I have to admit that I
> > would really prefer to get an AEAD version of this algorithm if we are
> > going to add something but that I probably not possible.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
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Jim:

PKCS#8 is a key that need to be wrapped.

I want to be able to use if for any keying material, including an HMAC =
key.

Russ


> On Jan 22, 2019, at 6:10 PM, Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> Russ,
>=20
> That is indeed an interesting use case.  Does this mean that you are =
really
> more interested in using this as a content encryption algorithm rather =
than
> a key encryption algorithm?  I have doubts for this use case that you =
are
> looking to wrap key and are looking to wrap content.  This is =
different than
> a use case where one wishes to use an HMAC algorithm with a key which =
is not
> a multiple of 8 octets.
>=20
> Jim
>=20
>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 2:36 PM
>> To: Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com>
>> Cc: cose <cose@ietf.org>
>> Subject: Re: [COSE] Adding AES Key Wrap with Padding
>>=20
>> Jim:
>>=20
>> The use case is wrapping PKCS#8 objects, which are not necessarily a
> multiple
>> of 8 octets.
>>=20
>> Russ
>>=20
>>=20
>>> On Jan 22, 2019, at 5:09 PM, Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com> =
wrote:
>>>=20
>>> Russ,
>>>=20
>>> I will ask the same question that I asked the last time that =
somebody
>>> requested that we support the AES Key Wrap with Padding Algorithm.
>>> What is the use case that you have for this algorithm.  This makes a
>>> difference in terms of how things are going to be used and what =
other
>>> things might need to be specified for this.  I have to admit that I
>>> would really prefer to get an AEAD version of this algorithm if we =
are
>>> going to add something but that I probably not possible.
>>>=20
>>> Jim
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> COSE mailing list
>>> COSE@ietf.org
>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose
>=20


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Jim,

Ok lets try this again, I don't think that you got the gist of my question.
(I have been told recently that I probably need to be more verbose in
describing my questions.)

What I understand you want to do is to build a structure that looks
something like this:

EncryptedMessage : {
   Protected Headers,
  Unprotected Headers,
  AES-KeyWrap-Pad( PKCS #8 ),
  Recipient: [ {
       Protected Headers,
      Unprotected Headers,
      RSA-OAEP( AES-KeyWrap-Pad encryption key )
  }]
}

In this case the key wrap is being done as a content encryption key even if
what it is encrypting a content which contains a private key.


The other case that I was talking about would be something like the
following:

EncryptedMessage :{
    Protected Headers,
    Unprotected Headers,
    AES-GCM-128( some content ),
    Recipient: [ {
          Protected Headers,
          Unprotected Headers,
           ECDH ( CEK ),
             Recipient: [{
                 Protected Headers,
                 Unprotected Headers,
                 AES-KeyWrap-Pad( PKCS#8 w/ private ECDH key )
}]}]}

In this case one would both be transporting the private key - encrypted with
AES-KeyWrap and a pre-shared secret (or perhaps ECDH and AES-KeyWrap-Pad)
and that transported key is then being used to do an ECDH operation which is
then used to decrypt some content.

In this case one is in essence transporting two different sets of encrypted
material:  the "some content" information and the private key.

Jim


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 3:21 PM
> To: Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com>
> Cc: cose <cose@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: [COSE] Adding AES Key Wrap with Padding
> 
> Jim:
> 
> PKCS#8 is a key that need to be wrapped.
> 
> I want to be able to use if for any keying material, including an HMAC
key.
> 
> Russ
> 
> 
> > On Jan 22, 2019, at 6:10 PM, Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com> wrote:
> >
> > Russ,
> >
> > That is indeed an interesting use case.  Does this mean that you are
> > really more interested in using this as a content encryption algorithm
> > rather than a key encryption algorithm?  I have doubts for this use
> > case that you are looking to wrap key and are looking to wrap content.
> > This is different than a use case where one wishes to use an HMAC
> > algorithm with a key which is not a multiple of 8 octets.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 2:36 PM
> >> To: Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com>
> >> Cc: cose <cose@ietf.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [COSE] Adding AES Key Wrap with Padding
> >>
> >> Jim:
> >>
> >> The use case is wrapping PKCS#8 objects, which are not necessarily a
> > multiple
> >> of 8 octets.
> >>
> >> Russ
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jan 22, 2019, at 5:09 PM, Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com>
wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Russ,
> >>>
> >>> I will ask the same question that I asked the last time that
> >>> somebody requested that we support the AES Key Wrap with Padding
> Algorithm.
> >>> What is the use case that you have for this algorithm.  This makes a
> >>> difference in terms of how things are going to be used and what
> >>> other things might need to be specified for this.  I have to admit
> >>> that I would really prefer to get an AEAD version of this algorithm
> >>> if we are going to add something but that I probably not possible.
> >>>
> >>> Jim
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> COSE mailing list
> >>> COSE@ietf.org
> >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose
> >


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Jim:

I was thinking of the first case, but it would be good to support both.

Russ


> On Jan 22, 2019, at 6:33 PM, Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> Jim,
>=20
> Ok lets try this again, I don't think that you got the gist of my =
question.
> (I have been told recently that I probably need to be more verbose in
> describing my questions.)
>=20
> What I understand you want to do is to build a structure that looks
> something like this:
>=20
> EncryptedMessage : {
>   Protected Headers,
>  Unprotected Headers,
>  AES-KeyWrap-Pad( PKCS #8 ),
>  Recipient: [ {
>       Protected Headers,
>      Unprotected Headers,
>      RSA-OAEP( AES-KeyWrap-Pad encryption key )
>  }]
> }
>=20
> In this case the key wrap is being done as a content encryption key =
even if
> what it is encrypting a content which contains a private key.
>=20
>=20
> The other case that I was talking about would be something like the
> following:
>=20
> EncryptedMessage :{
>    Protected Headers,
>    Unprotected Headers,
>    AES-GCM-128( some content ),
>    Recipient: [ {
>          Protected Headers,
>          Unprotected Headers,
>           ECDH ( CEK ),
>             Recipient: [{
>                 Protected Headers,
>                 Unprotected Headers,
>                 AES-KeyWrap-Pad( PKCS#8 w/ private ECDH key )
> }]}]}
>=20
> In this case one would both be transporting the private key - =
encrypted with
> AES-KeyWrap and a pre-shared secret (or perhaps ECDH and =
AES-KeyWrap-Pad)
> and that transported key is then being used to do an ECDH operation =
which is
> then used to decrypt some content.
>=20
> In this case one is in essence transporting two different sets of =
encrypted
> material:  the "some content" information and the private key.
>=20
> Jim
>=20
>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 3:21 PM
>> To: Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com>
>> Cc: cose <cose@ietf.org>
>> Subject: Re: [COSE] Adding AES Key Wrap with Padding
>>=20
>> Jim:
>>=20
>> PKCS#8 is a key that need to be wrapped.
>>=20
>> I want to be able to use if for any keying material, including an =
HMAC
> key.
>>=20
>> Russ
>>=20
>>=20
>>> On Jan 22, 2019, at 6:10 PM, Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com> =
wrote:
>>>=20
>>> Russ,
>>>=20
>>> That is indeed an interesting use case.  Does this mean that you are
>>> really more interested in using this as a content encryption =
algorithm
>>> rather than a key encryption algorithm?  I have doubts for this use
>>> case that you are looking to wrap key and are looking to wrap =
content.
>>> This is different than a use case where one wishes to use an HMAC
>>> algorithm with a key which is not a multiple of 8 octets.
>>>=20
>>> Jim
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 2:36 PM
>>>> To: Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com>
>>>> Cc: cose <cose@ietf.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [COSE] Adding AES Key Wrap with Padding
>>>>=20
>>>> Jim:
>>>>=20
>>>> The use case is wrapping PKCS#8 objects, which are not necessarily =
a
>>> multiple
>>>> of 8 octets.
>>>>=20
>>>> Russ
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>> On Jan 22, 2019, at 5:09 PM, Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com>
> wrote:
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Russ,
>>>>>=20
>>>>> I will ask the same question that I asked the last time that
>>>>> somebody requested that we support the AES Key Wrap with Padding
>> Algorithm.
>>>>> What is the use case that you have for this algorithm.  This makes =
a
>>>>> difference in terms of how things are going to be used and what
>>>>> other things might need to be specified for this.  I have to admit
>>>>> that I would really prefer to get an AEAD version of this =
algorithm
>>>>> if we are going to add something but that I probably not possible.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Jim
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> COSE mailing list
>>>>> COSE@ietf.org
>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cose
>>>=20
>=20


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: DESPERRIER Jean-Marc <jean-marc.desperrier@idemia.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2019 3:09 AM
> To: Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com>; 'cose' <cose@ietf.org>
> Subject: RE: Early Assignment of values
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> I didn't clarify it in the first message but the use in ISO-18013-5 in =
the context
> of mobile driving license, ie making the information of a driving =
license
> accessible and secure on a hardware that is assumed to be a mobile =
phone or
> something equivalent.
> The current version of the spec has been rewritten to use cbor, and I =
just
> sent an expert comment to try to replace the use of CMS that's =
remaining
> with COSE.
> It's just an expert comment for now, but I know there's good support =
to
> adopt it, in discussion previously CMS stayed there just because we =
didn't
> knew of a ready option to replace it.
> We will keep using the hierarchical model of X509 for trust however.
>=20
> So in this context the demands for the cose x509 draft are quite =
light, we'll
> just need the x5chain header to be able to reference a x509 =
certificate for
> the signature.
> As we have a offline use case and the signature will need to be self-
> supporting, we won't have a use for the x5u and x5t headers.
> As it is, I see no problem with the spec in cose x509 draft, =
everything can be
> readily used, and the best would be if it can be accepted and =
published
> quickly to be able to reference a stable document.

That is always good to hear.

>=20
> There would actually be more remarks about the cose spec itself. =
Currently
> with the CMS format, we had defined a possibility to use RSA =
signature.
> I think this is mostly for legacy reasons, but it would probably make =
adoption
> easier if there was still a way to use RSA. I see the COSE Algorithms =
for Web
> Authentication (WebAuthn) draft had started to define identifiers for =
it, but
> it's expired now.

That is a milestone for the working group.  I assume that at some point =
either an updated document will be published by the current authors or a =
new set of authors might be assigned to it.

>=20
> The other remark is the fact that only the secp***r1 curves can be =
used for
> ECDSA signature, which is a big constraint for algorithm agility.
> I would support having an optional signed header to specify an =
alternative EC
> curve to use in replacement of the defaut secp one.
> Or if this doesn't work, have additional signature scheme for using a =
different
> curve family.

It should be possible for somebody to write a new document which would =
create the curve assignments for other curves to be created.  It would =
need to make it clear what the algorithms it can be used with are but, =
other than the potential buy off on the curves from CFRG, this would be =
a trivial task.

Jim


>=20
> Br,
> Jean-Marc
>=20
>=20
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com>
> Envoy=C3=A9 : lundi 21 janvier 2019 06:20
> =C3=80 : DESPERRIER Jean-Marc <jean-marc.desperrier@idemia.com>; =
'cose'
> <cose@ietf.org>
> Objet : Early Assignment of values
>=20
> The document itself needs to be relatively stable before the values
> themselves can be assigned as provisional items.  Providing a review =
of the
> document is a good step towards that aim.  What are the items that you =
have
> a need for and are they being met by the document?  Is the document =
clear
> about what is being proposed?
>=20
> Jim



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Dear COSE WG,

The call for adoption has concluded.  The chairs note consensus to adopt
draft-schaad-cose-x509-03.

A request to support alg ids for SHA-384 and SHA-512 is also noted.

Jim, please submit that draft as draft-ietf-cose-* at your convenience.

Thank you,

- Matthew and Ivaylo
COSE Working Group Chairs

On 19/01/16 08:48, ivaylo petrov wrote:
> Dear WG,
>
> This message begins the call for adoption of the following draft:
>
> * draft-schaad-cose-x509-03
>   - https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schaad-cose-x509-03
>
> We would like to remind you that adoption does not mean they are
> finished, only that they are an acceptable starting point.
>
> If you have read the draft, please indicate whether you support
> adopting that documents as working group items. If you see any problem
> with adopting it or have any other comment, please tell us.
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> This call will run approximately two weeks, ending January 28.
> Please respond before that date.
>
> Best regards,
>
> - Matthew and Ivaylo
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 for adoption has concluded.=C2=A0 The chairs note consensus to adopt draft=
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ont-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">&gt; This message begins the call fo=
r adoption of the following draft:</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);f=
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ica,sans-serif"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvet=
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the CBOR Object Signing and Encryption WG of the IETF.

        Title           : CBOR Object Signing and Encryption (COSE): Headers for carrying and referencing X.509 certificates
        Author          : Jim Schaad
	Filename        : draft-ietf-cose-x509-00.txt
	Pages           : 10
	Date            : 2019-01-29

Abstract:
   The CBOR Encoded Message (COSE) structure syntax uses the COSE Key
   structure for placing keys in a message.  This document extends the
   way that keys can be identified and transported by providing
   parameters that refer to or contain X.509 certificates in messages
   and in the COSE Key structure.

   This document defines a set of hash algorithms for COSE.  These
   algorithms are needed in order to have X.509 certificates referred to
   by a thumbprint.


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This is a renamed version of the old -schaad- draft.  There are should be no
changes other than that.

Jim


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
directories.
This draft is a work item of the CBOR Object Signing and Encryption WG of
the IETF.

        Title           : CBOR Object Signing and Encryption (COSE): Headers
for carrying and referencing X.509 certificates
        Author          : Jim Schaad
	Filename        : draft-ietf-cose-x509-00.txt
	Pages           : 10
	Date            : 2019-01-29

Abstract:
   The CBOR Encoded Message (COSE) structure syntax uses the COSE Key
   structure for placing keys in a message.  This document extends the
   way that keys can be identified and transported by providing
   parameters that refer to or contain X.509 certificates in messages
   and in the COSE Key structure.

   This document defines a set of hash algorithms for COSE.  These
   algorithms are needed in order to have X.509 certificates referred to
   by a thumbprint.


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https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-cose-x509-00


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Does anyone know of an online tool that will decode CWTs like https://jwt.i=
o/ does for JWTs?

                                                       Thanks,
                                                       -- Mike


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