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From: April Marine <April.Marine@nominum.com>
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This message is both a test of our new mailing list home and, I hope, the
official announcement that we have moved.

The new list is crisp@ietf.org, hosted by the Secretariat.  Thanks to them
and thanks to Verisign for hosting to now.

Info is at http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/crisp

While I have your attention...

 - George is trolling for agenda items.  I haven't seen any on
   the list...

 - Can we expect all of our usual suspects or will some of you
   be diverted? I'm thinking of our doc editors in particular.

 - We just updated our milestones and, as far as I can tell,
   already missed two of the four that were scheduled for January!
   Is this a new record in falling behind?! :)  what's the
   status of the CORE and DREG docs?

thanks!
April


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April Marine wrote:
>  - We just updated our milestones and, as far as I can tell,
>    already missed two of the four that were scheduled for January!
>    Is this a new record in falling behind?! :)  what's the
>    status of the CORE and DREG docs?

Public shaming noted.  However, their tardiness is not for lack of 
trying.  We'll have something soonish.

-andy


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That *really* wasn't meant as a shame! sorry if it came across that way.

If any group I chaired ever hit a milestone in its life, I would pass away
from shock...

On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, Andrew Newton wrote:

> April Marine wrote:
> >  - We just updated our milestones and, as far as I can tell,
> >    already missed two of the four that were scheduled for January!
> >    Is this a new record in falling behind?! :)  what's the
> >    status of the CORE and DREG docs?
>
> Public shaming noted.  However, their tardiness is not for lack of
> trying.  We'll have something soonish.
>
> -andy
>

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April Marine wrote:

> That *really* wasn't meant as a shame! sorry if it came across that way.

No offense taken.

> If any group I chaired ever hit a milestone in its life, I would pass away
> from shock...

We wouldn't want to have to find a fourth chairperson, would we? :)

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the new -05 versions of the iris-core, iris-beep and iris-dreg drafts were 
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versions and the diffs from the -04 can be visited at:

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This document describes an application layer client-server protocol
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	Title		: IRIS - An Address Registry (areg) Type for the Internet Registry Information Service
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	Agenda for CRISP Working Group Meeting
		IETF 59 - Seoul, Korea
	Tuesday, March 2, 0900-1130, Room Sapphire 1


 o Welcome, Agenda Bashing, Status Update
	Chairs - 10 min

 o Update on latest drafts:
	 draft-ietf-crisp-iris-core-05.txt
	 draft-ietf-crisp-iris-dreg-05.txt
	 draft-ietf-crisp-iris-beep-05.txt

   Changes centered around XML mechanics:
	Andy Newton - 30 min

   Changes centered around internationalization and language issues:
     	Marcos Sanz - 30 min

 o Next Steps - 10 min

 o Other topics (if any arise)

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I'd like to request a slot for about 15-20 minutes. I won't be
there, but Ed Lewis has agreed to present my slides, which explain
some changes that were made to the areg draft.

Thanks,
Cathy Murphy

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, April Marine wrote:

> Now is your chance to add or edit...
>
> thx,
> A.
>
>
>
> 	Agenda for CRISP Working Group Meeting
> 		IETF 59 - Seoul, Korea
> 	Tuesday, March 2, 0900-1130, Room Sapphire 1
>
>
>  o Welcome, Agenda Bashing, Status Update
> 	Chairs - 10 min
>
>  o Update on latest drafts:
> 	 draft-ietf-crisp-iris-core-05.txt
> 	 draft-ietf-crisp-iris-dreg-05.txt
> 	 draft-ietf-crisp-iris-beep-05.txt
>
>    Changes centered around XML mechanics:
> 	Andy Newton - 30 min
>
>    Changes centered around internationalization and language issues:
>      	Marcos Sanz - 30 min
>
>  o Next Steps - 10 min
>
>  o Other topics (if any arise)
>
> _______________________________________________
> Crisp mailing list
> Crisp@ietf.org
> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/crisp
>



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GREAT! I wasn't sure we'd have any areg-y rep.  Thanks!

A.

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Cathy Murphy wrote:

>
> I'd like to request a slot for about 15-20 minutes. I won't be
> there, but Ed Lewis has agreed to present my slides, which explain
> some changes that were made to the areg draft.
>
> Thanks,
> Cathy Murphy
>
> On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, April Marine wrote:
>
> > Now is your chance to add or edit...
> >
> > thx,
> > A.
> >
> >
> >
> > 	Agenda for CRISP Working Group Meeting
> > 		IETF 59 - Seoul, Korea
> > 	Tuesday, March 2, 0900-1130, Room Sapphire 1
> >
> >
> >  o Welcome, Agenda Bashing, Status Update
> > 	Chairs - 10 min
> >
> >  o Update on latest drafts:
> > 	 draft-ietf-crisp-iris-core-05.txt
> > 	 draft-ietf-crisp-iris-dreg-05.txt
> > 	 draft-ietf-crisp-iris-beep-05.txt
> >
> >    Changes centered around XML mechanics:
> > 	Andy Newton - 30 min
> >
> >    Changes centered around internationalization and language issues:
> >      	Marcos Sanz - 30 min
> >
> >  o Next Steps - 10 min
> >
> >  o Other topics (if any arise)
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Crisp mailing list
> > Crisp@ietf.org
> > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/crisp
> >
>
>

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From: Engin Gunduz <engin@ripe.net>
To: April Marine <April.Marine@nominum.com>
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Hi,

Can we have a couple of minutes to talk about "nesting" text
for IP ranges?  The text is an addition proposal for IRN requirements
and IRIS AREG documents. In fact Cathy has already incorporated
terminology part into IRIS AREG draft.

We will basically say that the text is available and request for
review, a couple of minutes would be enough...

I guess the text wasn't circulated in this list, so I'm attaching it
below.
-engin

--
Engin Gunduz
RIPE NCC Software Engineering Department


===================================================


Terminology: More specific, most specific, less specific,
  least specific.
 More specific: Given two networks, A and B, A is more specific
   than B if network B includes all space of network A, and if
   network B is larger than network A.
 Less specific: Opposite of more specific.  The network
   B is less specific than network A if network A's all space
   is included in network B and if network A is smaller than
   network B.
 Most specific: Given a set of networks, the network or networks 
   that are more specific than zero or more of other networks
   in the set, and that are not a less specific of any of the
   networks in the set.
 Least specific: Given a set of networks, the network or networks
   that are not more specific to any of the other networks in
   the set.
   

Examples:

+-------------------------------------------------------+
|                                                       |
| Given the networks A, B, C and D as follows:          |
|                                                       |
|    A    |---------------------------------|           |
|    B                    |-----------------|           |
|    C                       |---------|                |
|    D      |-------|                                   |
|                                                       |
|                                                       |
| The network A is less specific than B, C and D.       |
| The network B is more specific than A.                |
| Among these four networks, A is the least specific,   |
|   and C and D are the most specific networks.         |
|                                                       |
+-------------------------------------------------------+

+-------------------------------------------------------+
|                                                       | 
| Given the networks E, F and G:                        |
|                                                       |
|    E   |----------|                                   |
|    F                |--------------|                  |
|    G     |---|                                        |
|                                                       | 
| The networks E and F are least specific networks.     |
| The networks F and G are most specific networks.      |
|                                                       | 
+-------------------------------------------------------+

The following definitions assume that there are no overlapping
networks in the database.  A network overlaps with another
one when they encompass each other's space partially. 
Examples:

  A   |---------------------|
  B       |----------------------------|

Here, the networks A and B are overlapping networks because network
A encompasses network B's space partially and network B encompasses
network A's space partially.

  C   |------------------|
  D   |---------|

Here, the networks C and D are NOT overlapping networks,
because even if network D encompasses a part of network C's
space, network C does not encompass network D's space partially
(it encompasses network D completely).

The protocol MUST NOT assume that there can be only one network with
a given range.  That is, the address directory can contain more than
one network with the same range.  They are said to be exact match
networks.

Parent/child relationship in the internet address directory is
unidirectional.  That is, there might also be parent/child relationship
with exact match networks, but a network cannot be a parent and a child
of its exact match network at the same time.

Nested matching searches:

====
[1] Given a range, find all the networks that contain that range (ie, all
less specifics and exact matches).  These networks are the networks
that fulfill the following condition:

   (start(network) <= start(search)) AND
   (end(network) >= end(search))

The protocol SHOULD support this search.

The protocol MUST support this search with network handle.

====
[2] Given a range, find only the most specific network that contains 
that range (could be multiple networks, but usually single);
This is the set of networks from [1], with the provision
that: no network in the return set is contained by any other
network in the set.  If there are exact match networks in the
set from [1], they both must appear in the result set as well.
The protocol MUST support this search.

The protocol MUST support this search with network handle.

====
[3] Given a range, find all the networks that are fully within that 
range.  The set must not contain an exact match:

   (start(network) >= start(search)) AND
   (end(network) <= end(search)) AND
   NOT ((start(network) = start(search)) AND
        (end(network) = end(search)))

The protocol MAY support this search.

The protocol MAY support this search with network handle.

====
[4] Given a range, find only the least specific networks that are fully 
within that range.  This is the set of networks from [3], with the
provision that:
   no network in the return set contains any other network
   in the return set.

An example:

   X                                             Y

A  |------------------|
B                      |-------------------------|
C    |--------|
D                                    |---------|

Here, the search for least specific networks that are fully
within the range "X - Y" would return networks
A and B.  The result set would not contain C (because it
is contained by A) nor D (because it is contained by C).

The protocol MUST support this search.

The protocol MUST support this search with network handle.

====
[5] Given a range, find the network that begins and ends on the same IP 
addresses as the range ("exact match").

That is, the networks that fulfill the following condition:
   (start(network) = start(search)) AND
   (end(network) = end(search))

The protocol SHOULD support this search.

The protocol MUST support this search with network handle.

====
[6] Given a range, or single IP address, find the exact match network
if exists, and if not, perform the [2] search.

The protocol SHOULD support this search.

The protocol MUST support this search with network handle.
====

For the cases [1]-[6], if a network handle is given as the input,
then the server must find the network with this handle, and then perform
the specified search for its range.  If there are multiple networks with
that handle, then the search must be performed for each network and
the results must be merged, and duplicates in the result set must be
eliminated.


Parent-child relationship searches:
[7] Given a network handle, find the network that is the direct (one
level up) parent of the network with the given handle.  As network
handles may not be unique, this search might return multiple networks.

The protocol MUST support this search.


[8] Given a network handle, find the network or networks that are
direct (one level down) children of the network with the handle given.
As network handles may not be unique, this search might return 
children of multiple networks.

The protocol MUST support this search.


$Id: CRISP-nesting-text.txt,v 1.5 2004/02/04 13:28:33 engin Exp $
======================================

On 2004-02-18 09:19:46 -0800, April Marine wrote:
> GREAT! I wasn't sure we'd have any areg-y rep.  Thanks!
> 
> A.
> 
> On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Cathy Murphy wrote:
> 
> >
> > I'd like to request a slot for about 15-20 minutes. I won't be
> > there, but Ed Lewis has agreed to present my slides, which explain
> > some changes that were made to the areg draft.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Cathy Murphy
> >
> > On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, April Marine wrote:
> >
> > > Now is your chance to add or edit...
> > >
> > > thx,
> > > A.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 	Agenda for CRISP Working Group Meeting
> > > 		IETF 59 - Seoul, Korea
> > > 	Tuesday, March 2, 0900-1130, Room Sapphire 1
> > >
> > >
> > >  o Welcome, Agenda Bashing, Status Update
> > > 	Chairs - 10 min
> > >
> > >  o Update on latest drafts:
> > > 	 draft-ietf-crisp-iris-core-05.txt
> > > 	 draft-ietf-crisp-iris-dreg-05.txt
> > > 	 draft-ietf-crisp-iris-beep-05.txt
> > >
> > >    Changes centered around XML mechanics:
> > > 	Andy Newton - 30 min
> > >
> > >    Changes centered around internationalization and language issues:
> > >      	Marcos Sanz - 30 min
> > >
> > >  o Next Steps - 10 min
> > >
> > >  o Other topics (if any arise)

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	Agenda for CRISP Working Group Meeting
		IETF 59 - Seoul, Korea
	Tuesday, March 2, 0900-1130, Room Sapphire 1


 o Welcome, Agenda Bashing, Status Update
	Chairs - 10 min

 o Update on latest drafts:
	 draft-ietf-crisp-iris-core-05.txt
	 draft-ietf-crisp-iris-dreg-05.txt
	 draft-ietf-crisp-iris-beep-05.txt

   Changes centered around XML mechanics:
	Andy Newton - 30 min

   Changes centered around internationalization and language issues:
     	Marcos Sanz - 30 min

 o Next Steps - 10 min

 o Status of draft-ietf-crisp-iris-areg-05.txt

	Ed Lewis stars as Cathy Murhpy - 20 mins

 o Nesting text for IP ranges

	Engin Gunduz - 5 mins

 o Other topics (if any arise)

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