From nobody Wed Jan 2 02:01:40 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: curdle@ietf.org Delivered-To: curdle@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544881294D0; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 02:01:31 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Sheng Jiang To: Cc: draft-ietf-curdle-ssh-ed25519-ed448.all@ietf.org, curdle@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.89.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <154642329120.32625.18387931087720472774@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 02:01:31 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Curdle] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-curdle-ssh-ed25519-ed448-07 X-BeenThere: curdle@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "List for discussion of potential new security area wg." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 10:01:32 -0000 Reviewer: Sheng Jiang Review result: Has Issues Reviewer: Sheng Jiang Review result: Has Issues Hi, OPS-DIR, Authors, I have reviewed this document as part of the Operational directorate's ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG. These comments were written with the intent of improving the operational aspects of the IETF drafts. Comments that are not addressed in last call may be included in AD reviews during the IESG review. Document editors and WG chairs should treat these comments just like any other last call comments. This standard track document describes the use of the Ed25519 and Ed448 digital signature algorithm in the Secure Shell (SSH) protocol. This document is one of the shortest documents I have ever seen. It is clear and well written. However, I have a fundamental issue regarding to its Intended status "Standards Track", describe below. Therefore, it has issues for publication although I think it is easy to fixed - changing the Intended status. Major issue: this document has Intended status for Standards Track. However, neither this document fails to quota RFC 2119 or has any normative words. Consistently, I don't think the description in this document has any mandatory requirements for any implementations of protocols. Actually, the most important quota of this document, RFC8032, is Informational, which is a Downref in this document. Therefore, I think it is more proper this document intends for Informational status. Minor issue: no. Regards, Sheng From nobody Wed Jan 2 06:35:17 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: curdle@ietf.org Delivered-To: curdle@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC65126CB6; Wed, 2 Jan 2019 06:35:16 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: curdle@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.89.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: curdle@ietf.org Message-ID: <154643971615.32637.15772955644776319970@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 06:35:16 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Curdle] I-D Action: draft-ietf-curdle-gss-keyex-sha2-08.txt X-BeenThere: curdle@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "List for discussion of potential new security area wg." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 14:35:16 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the CURves, Deprecating and a Little more Encryption WG of the IETF. Title : GSS-API Key Exchange with SHA2 Authors : Simo Sorce Hubert Kario Filename : draft-ietf-curdle-gss-keyex-sha2-08.txt Pages : 12 Date : 2019-01-02 Abstract: This document specifies additions and amendments to RFC4462. It defines a new key exchange method that uses SHA-2 for integrity and deprecates weak DH groups. The purpose of this specification is to modernize the cryptographic primitives used by GSS Key Exchanges. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-curdle-gss-keyex-sha2/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-curdle-gss-keyex-sha2-08 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-curdle-gss-keyex-sha2-08 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-curdle-gss-keyex-sha2-08 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 18:12:26 -0000 ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01D4A29C.C0B6CB70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Why not just reference RFC 2119 and say "Standard implementations of SSH SHOULD implement these signature algorithms." ? -Tim > -----Original Message----- > From: Curdle On Behalf Of Daniel Migault > Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 10:43 AM > To: Sheng Jiang ; ops-dir@ietf.org > Cc: draft-ietf-curdle-ssh-ed25519-ed448.all@ietf.org; curdle@ietf.org; > ietf@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Curdle] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-curdle-ssh-ed25519- > ed448-07 > > Hi Sheng, > > Thanks for the comment and the suggestion. I agree that it may sound > strange to have a standard Track category without any reference to > RFC2119. In addition, while the document provides IANA registry updates, > the IANA registration does not require a Standard Track. So *technically* the > informational category could be fine. > > The motivation for a Standard Track document was to have these algorithms > as part of the SSH protocol. In other words, we expect that SSH will come > with these algorithms in the future. For that reason we requested the status > to be "Standard Track" to remain coherent with RFC425{1-4}. > > (RFC4250 and) RFC4253 provided the initial values for the Public Key registry. > While the protocol comes with some registry values, my understanding is > that updating the registry by adding a new value is not considered as an > update the RFC. For that reason we did not provide RFC4253 or RFC4250 in > the update status. While the update does not concern the RFC, it affects the > protocol and should - in my opinion be associated to the same status as the > protocol. > > As a side note, all RFCs that have updated the Public Key Algorithm Names > are Standard Track documents. On the other hand, they seem to reference > and use the RFC2119 terms. > > I believe that the Standard Track category is the most appropriated, > however, I am happy to be wrong and have misunderstood something. Feel > free to let me know your opinion on the category, as well as if there are any > clarification we should add in the text. I suggest that we add a sentence > around the lines: > """ These signature algorithms are expected to be integrated into the > standard implementations of SSH. """ > > Any feed back is welcome! > > Yours, > Daniel > -----Original Message----- > From: Sheng Jiang > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 5:02 AM > To: ops-dir@ietf.org > Cc: draft-ietf-curdle-ssh-ed25519-ed448.all@ietf.org; curdle@ietf.org; > ietf@ietf.org > Subject: Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-curdle-ssh-ed25519-ed448-07 > > Reviewer: Sheng Jiang > Review result: Has Issues > > Reviewer: Sheng Jiang > Review result: Has Issues > > Hi, OPS-DIR, Authors, > > I have reviewed this document as part of the Operational directorate's > ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG. > These comments were written with the intent of improving the operational > aspects of the IETF drafts. Comments that are not addressed in last call may > be included in AD reviews during the IESG review. Document editors and WG > chairs should treat these comments just like any other last call comments. > > This standard track document describes the use of the Ed25519 and Ed448 > digital signature algorithm in the Secure Shell (SSH) protocol. This document > is one of the shortest documents I have ever seen. It is clear and well > written. > However, I have a fundamental issue regarding to its Intended status > "Standards Track", describe below. Therefore, it has issues for publication > although I think it is easy to fixed - changing the Intended status. > > Major issue: this document has Intended status for Standards Track. > However, neither this document fails to quota RFC 2119 or has any > normative words. > Consistently, I don't think the description in this document has any > mandatory requirements for any implementations of protocols. Actually, the > most important quota of this document, RFC8032, is Informational, which is > a Downref in this document. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 18:56:52 -0000 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01D4A2A2.F49F28A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the suggestion Tim. That works for me. Yours, Daniel -----Original Message----- From: Tim Hollebeek Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 1:12 PM To: Daniel Migault ; Sheng Jiang ; ops-dir@ietf.org Cc: draft-ietf-curdle-ssh-ed25519-ed448.all@ietf.org; curdle@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org Subject: RE: Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-curdle-ssh-ed25519-ed448-07 Why not just reference RFC 2119 and say "Standard implementations of SSH SHOULD implement these signature algorithms." ? -Tim > -----Original Message----- > From: Curdle On Behalf Of Daniel Migault > Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 10:43 AM > To: Sheng Jiang ; ops-dir@ietf.org > Cc: draft-ietf-curdle-ssh-ed25519-ed448.all@ietf.org; curdle@ietf.org; > ietf@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Curdle] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-curdle-ssh-ed25519- > ed448-07 > > Hi Sheng, > > Thanks for the comment and the suggestion. I agree that it may sound > strange to have a standard Track category without any reference to > RFC2119. In addition, while the document provides IANA registry updates, > the IANA registration does not require a Standard Track. So *technically* the > informational category could be fine. > > The motivation for a Standard Track document was to have these algorithms > as part of the SSH protocol. In other words, we expect that SSH will come > with these algorithms in the future. For that reason we requested the status > to be "Standard Track" to remain coherent with RFC425{1-4}. > > (RFC4250 and) RFC4253 provided the initial values for the Public Key registry. > While the protocol comes with some registry values, my understanding is > that updating the registry by adding a new value is not considered as an > update the RFC. For that reason we did not provide RFC4253 or RFC4250 in > the update status. While the update does not concern the RFC, it affects the > protocol and should - in my opinion be associated to the same status as the > protocol. > > As a side note, all RFCs that have updated the Public Key Algorithm Names > are Standard Track documents. On the other hand, they seem to reference > and use the RFC2119 terms. > > I believe that the Standard Track category is the most appropriated, > however, I am happy to be wrong and have misunderstood something. Feel > free to let me know your opinion on the category, as well as if there are any > clarification we should add in the text. I suggest that we add a sentence > around the lines: > """ These signature algorithms are expected to be integrated into the > standard implementations of SSH. """ > > Any feed back is welcome! > > Yours, > Daniel > -----Original Message----- > From: Sheng Jiang > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 5:02 AM > To: ops-dir@ietf.org > Cc: draft-ietf-curdle-ssh-ed25519-ed448.all@ietf.org; curdle@ietf.org; > ietf@ietf.org > Subject: Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-curdle-ssh-ed25519-ed448-07 > > Reviewer: Sheng Jiang > Review result: Has Issues > > Reviewer: Sheng Jiang > Review result: Has Issues > > Hi, OPS-DIR, Authors, > > I have reviewed this document as part of the Operational directorate's > ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG. > These comments were written with the intent of improving the operational > aspects of the IETF drafts. Comments that are not addressed in last call may > be included in AD reviews during the IESG review. Document editors and WG > chairs should treat these comments just like any other last call comments. > > This standard track document describes the use of the Ed25519 and Ed448 > digital signature algorithm in the Secure Shell (SSH) protocol. This document > is one of the shortest documents I have ever seen. It is clear and well > written. > However, I have a fundamental issue regarding to its Intended status > "Standards Track", describe below. Therefore, it has issues for publication > although I think it is easy to fixed - changing the Intended status. > > Major issue: this document has Intended status for Standards Track. > However, neither this document fails to quota RFC 2119 or has any > normative words. > Consistently, I don't think the description in this document has any > mandatory requirements for any implementations of protocols. Actually, the > most important quota of this document, RFC8032, is Informational, which is > a Downref in this document. 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2019 08:00:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Fred Baker To: Cc: draft-ietf-curdle-rc4-die-die-die.all@ietf.org, curdle@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.89.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <154653120300.29549.14792883330083615448@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 08:00:03 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Curdle] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-curdle-rc4-die-die-die-14 X-BeenThere: curdle@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "List for discussion of potential new security area wg." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 16:00:04 -0000 Reviewer: Fred Baker Review result: Ready I have read the indicated draft. It is simple and to the point. I don't know and therefore can't say whether operators use this particular cipher, but I suspect not. In any event, assuming the statements it makes about weak keys are true, I would describe it as "ready". 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X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.89.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <154662979022.18330.1962344830222794471@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2019 11:23:10 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Curdle] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-curdle-rc4-die-die-die-14 X-BeenThere: curdle@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "List for discussion of potential new security area wg." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2019 19:23:11 -0000 Reviewer: Aanchal Malhotra Review result: Ready I think the document is ready to advance. Just a minor editorial comment: Section 1 : There is a redundant 'the' in the third sentence. From nobody Sun Jan 6 19:50:52 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: curdle@ietf.org Delivered-To: curdle@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63E7E127133; Sun, 6 Jan 2019 19:50:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Linda Dunbar To: Cc: draft-ietf-curdle-ssh-ed25519-ed448.all@ietf.org, curdle@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.89.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <154683304030.17040.15801682371972802372@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2019 19:50:40 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Curdle] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-curdle-ssh-ed25519-ed448-07 X-BeenThere: curdle@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "List for discussion of potential new security area wg." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2019 03:50:40 -0000 Reviewer: Linda Dunbar Review result: Ready with Issues I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed by the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments just like any other last call comments. For more information, please see the FAQ at . Document: draft-ietf-curdle-ssh-ed25519-ed448-?? Reviewer: Linda Dunbar Review Date: 2019-01-06 IETF LC End Date: 2019-01-04 IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat Summary: This document proposes two names for public key algorithms (which are specified by other RFCs): ssh-ed25519 & ssh-ed448 Major issues: There is no "Standard" being specified by this document. The document has a few sentences to explain "public key algorithm for use with SSH in accordance with RFC4253, RFC4251" and give a name. and One sentence to say "Signatures are generated according to the procedure in RFC8032". I don't understand why it is "Standard Track" document, non do I understand why it is a WG document. Does it take a whole WG to come out with a name for an algorithm specified in an RFC? Minor issues: Nits/editorial comments: Linda Dunbar From nobody Tue Jan 8 23:36:03 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: curdle@ietf.org Delivered-To: curdle@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C9B130DC6; Tue, 8 Jan 2019 23:35:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Francis Dupont To: Cc: draft-ietf-curdle-gss-keyex-sha2.all@ietf.org, curdle@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.89.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <154701935610.25535.586592915976049411@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2019 23:35:56 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Curdle] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-curdle-gss-keyex-sha2-08 X-BeenThere: curdle@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "List for discussion of potential new security area wg." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2019 07:36:02 -0000 Reviewer: Francis Dupont Review result: Ready I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed by the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments just like any other last call comments. For more information, please see the FAQ at . Document: draft-ietf-curdle-gss-keyex-sha2-08 Reviewer: Francis Dupont Review Date: 2019-01-08 IETF LC End Date: 2019-01-08 IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat Summary: Ready Major issues: None Minor issues: None Nits/editorial comments: a few I'll send later today (none requiring a new version). From nobody Wed Jan 9 04:54:05 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: curdle@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: curdle@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8CBC1293B1; Wed, 9 Jan 2019 04:53:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WS4imjNJ737x; Wed, 9 Jan 2019 04:53:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lf1-f53.google.com (mail-lf1-f53.google.com [209.85.167.53]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D9BAC1228B7; Wed, 9 Jan 2019 04:53:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-lf1-f53.google.com with SMTP id p6so5573842lfc.1; Wed, 09 Jan 2019 04:53:53 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=7MeqP/QU38Dm5Yoq8MxQPJkZVhOryrRd2gpjwBwbhFo=; b=YpEFoc/i6mQz8THfogdm3lR0QJSWh195pyVfkIvCaQJmef4snCha2FtB33c15F6XmK MBDLYUfE9sH6bO9QAlypb8m7/tDTqVNIra24F3sfNboCSFb1zXefpoMxcUjIglOOIL08 guVXzrz84C4rbLYx+RXkubWqYrnnFpVg0nHQBJ97i+PXEVxvxSGzMQRhyaIRQFPZl2Q7 9R/D2eOoCfSchpLRBELimT311BrLsQnschoTZXYjOMGJeKe68jFrmeiVmuyAA7bkt4jl E42qaIuIlIC0RIBCp3YZuhozMHncmKc56CTQzZDZkkcz2UWTS5sCwODh55Mp5jPeDT8i ThKA== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukfjxL2SIvkow22wz3HXU8qDH+S4Ft6MZRCR5IocDV1q8Ic50Su8 LjMnXVMaOYdcXylAFgFN3QcCnFu0CG06BAmj1sQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN4Lbp94evRk1g2J7f0Isw5t21Zsj3NY60lcTlFvKh5bDAVMBUkk8a7gGcL/BBtsDegos+uFB5VN+3kr3/pDAvA= X-Received: by 2002:a19:9904:: with SMTP id b4mr3268877lfe.95.1547038431945; Wed, 09 Jan 2019 04:53:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <154701935610.25535.586592915976049411@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <154701935610.25535.586592915976049411@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Daniel Migault Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2019 07:53:39 -0500 Message-ID: To: Francis Dupont Cc: "gen-art >> General area reviewing team" , draft-ietf-curdle-gss-keyex-sha2.all@ietf.org, curdle , ietf@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000030a912057f05f451" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Curdle] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-curdle-gss-keyex-sha2-08 X-BeenThere: curdle@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "List for discussion of potential new security area wg." 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Please treat these comments just > like any other last call comments. > > For more information, please see the FAQ at > > . > > Document: draft-ietf-curdle-gss-keyex-sha2-08 > Reviewer: Francis Dupont > Review Date: 2019-01-08 > IETF LC End Date: 2019-01-08 > IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat > > Summary: Ready > > Major issues: None > > Minor issues: None > > Nits/editorial comments: > a few I'll send later today (none requiring a new version). > > > _______________________________________________ > Curdle mailing list > Curdle@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/curdle > --00000000000030a912057f05f451 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Francis for the review.
Yours,
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Daniel

On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 2:36 AM Francis Dupont <Francis.Dupont@fdupont.fr> wrote:
Reviewer: Francis Dupont=
Review result: Ready

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Document: draft-ietf-curdle-gss-keyex-sha2-08
Reviewer: Francis Dupont
Review Date: 2019-01-08
IETF LC End Date: 2019-01-08
IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat

Summary: Ready

Major issues: None

Minor issues: None

Nits/editorial comments:
=C2=A0a few I'll send later today (none requiring a new version).


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--00000000000030a912057f05f451-- From nobody Wed Jan 16 22:24:49 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: curdle@ietf.org Delivered-To: curdle@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8353E126DBF; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 22:24:47 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: curdle@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.89.3 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: curdle@ietf.org Message-ID: <154770628750.29446.7905947860489387546@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 22:24:47 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Curdle] I-D Action: draft-ietf-curdle-rc4-die-die-die-15.txt X-BeenThere: curdle@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "List for discussion of potential new security area wg." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 06:24:47 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the CURves, Deprecating and a Little more Encryption WG of the IETF. Title : Deprecating RC4 in Secure Shell (SSH) Authors : Luis Camara Loganaden Velvindron Filename : draft-ietf-curdle-rc4-die-die-die-15.txt Pages : 5 Date : 2019-01-16 Abstract: This document deprecates RC4 in Secure Shell (SSH). Therefore, this document formally obsoletes and moves to Historic RFC4345. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-curdle-rc4-die-die-die/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-curdle-rc4-die-die-die-15 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-curdle-rc4-die-die-die-15 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-curdle-rc4-die-die-die-15 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Wed Jan 16 22:48:26 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: curdle@ietf.org Delivered-To: curdle@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC86130F7C; Wed, 16 Jan 2019 22:48:23 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: curdle@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.89.3 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: curdle@ietf.org Message-ID: <154770770306.29594.1090881368076022478@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 22:48:23 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Curdle] I-D Action: draft-ietf-curdle-ssh-ed25519-ed448-08.txt X-BeenThere: curdle@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "List for discussion of potential new security area wg." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 06:48:24 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the CURves, Deprecating and a Little more Encryption WG of the IETF. Title : Ed25519 and Ed448 public key algorithms for the Secure Shell (SSH) protocol Authors : Ben Harris Loganaden Velvindron Filename : draft-ietf-curdle-ssh-ed25519-ed448-08.txt Pages : 7 Date : 2019-01-16 Abstract: This document describes the use of the Ed25519 and Ed448 digital signature algorithm in the Secure Shell (SSH) protocol. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-curdle-ssh-ed25519-ed448/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-curdle-ssh-ed25519-ed448-08 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-curdle-ssh-ed25519-ed448-08 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-curdle-ssh-ed25519-ed448-08 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/